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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Wednesday, the 11th of June, 2025.
	I'm joined by Stephen and Luca and today we're going to be talking about America's Mexican standoff and what they ought to be doing about the Mexicans living in America.
	A reckoning for Northern Ireland because of course things Diversity, very clearly their strength.
	And the total collapse of the Reform Party's credibility.
	In the past week or so, for some reason, Reform's been like, actually, we're massive libs, and we're completely on board with the disinheritance of the British people from their ancient homeland.
	Weird.
	With a right-wing party.
	So, it's been a very bizarre week, frankly.
	But it's been an interesting and instructive one.
	So, let's begin.
	So, currently in Los Angeles, and is spreading beyond Los Angeles actually, there have been quite large anti-immigration protests, which of course have become violent, and have been revealing about the nature of the fracture between the American people and the state, and the people who have immigrated to America, not just in recent years, but in previous eras.
	And the way that they think of themselves in relation to the rest of the United States.
	And I think it's really one of those things that the Americans have to get a handle on.
	And honestly, with quite a lot of legal force.
	This has to be essentially put to bed as a paradigm.
	That there is such a thing as a hyphenated American, really, is what it ends up coming down to.
	Because the American social contract is predicated on believing a series of ideas and deliberately and consciously incorporating yourself into that society.
	And America is actually very well set up for this, unlike the old world, which is not like that at all.
	But it's being undermined in the United States, and that is not good, and if that is allowed to continue, well...
	Anyway, before we begin, I finished and have published my amazing documentary, The Death of Man.
	Now, I don't mean to blow my own horn, but I did an unbelievable amount of work on this, charting the progress of the Enlightenment and what the likely consequences are of rendering the universe as merely something mechanical that is made of clockwork and not ordained by God.
	Now, I myself am an atheist, so you might say, well, but you don't believe it.
	Okay, fine, I'm a product of modernity as much as everyone else.
	But the point is, there may well be predictable consequences of this, which lead us down quite a dark path to the end of what we consider a man to be.
	So anyway, that's on Lotases.com now.
	Go sign up, five pound a month, go watch it, and leave a comment and tell me what you think, It's something that the world is a work in progress.
	I don't think it's good news, frankly, but anyway.
	We're seeing it in live real.
	Much of what you're talking about in that video and the way that you've set out the analysis are amongst the topics that we almost talk about every day on this channel and our commentators who come on it.
	They're all symptoms of the larger...
	But anyway, let's begin.
	So yeah, as Andy Ngo pointed out, last night was the fourth night of far-left Mexican insurrection in Los Angeles.
	And I think that's a completely accurate way of characterising it.
	It is absolutely a Mexican insurrection in Los Angeles, and the Mexican nationalists are very happy to tell you that themselves.
	It's been violent.
	It's been...
	But I'm not going to go into that.
	You can find that elsewhere.
	What I'm interested in is the sort of meta-politics of the situation.
	What's happening around and what's really driving this so for example you had Claudia Scheinbaum the president of Mexico Who came out in response on the first night?
	and said that So anyone who doesn't know what a remittance is, this is when Mexicans in America send money home.
	Not very American, is it?
	Do Americans normally just send money out of their own pockets to foreign countries?
	Usually their governments have to do that for them.
	Well, their argument is, we're paying for our families, we're giving it to schools, all the rest of it.
	Well, that's exactly it.
	Exactly.
	But it's like, right, so you are here as a medic, you're here as a foreign worker, not as an American, right?
	So you shouldn't really have American citizenship.
	It's fine, like, in ancient Athens to have a class of metics, where foreigners who come in and work and then do whatever they want with their money, because that's what a medic is.
	but they're not politically enfranchised.
	No, it speaks to an entirely extractive...
	Yeah, and as one Republican senator said, we're not the world's piggy bank, actually, and we don't take kindly threats.
	But this is the issue, because remittances from America to Mexico are something like $64 billion a year.
	That is a lot of money leaving the United States to go to what is almost turning into a parasitic southern neighbour.
	But the thing I found most interesting about this is the way that she characterised it, right?
	She said, quote, we don't want taxes on remittances from our fellow countrymen.
	Yes, I noticed that.
	It was very, very strong.
	It's our fellow countrymen.
	People have gone over to there, don't forget, crossed the border, claiming their right for asylum to be able to become American citizens.
	But she demands that they're still Mexicans, still Guatemalans, still whatever they are, and therefore they could be able to send money back.
	I mean, I always had an issue with the remittances culture, because we obviously have a huge amount here.
	And actually, when you're trying to do the research, even through the UN details, it's incredibly difficult to get accurate numbers from the World Bank.
	There's assessments, assumptions, but no one seems to really know what the true numbers are.
	And I think as your Republican commentator in there, or the senator, he was actually also indicating the connection...
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I mean, she's going to have to have some deal with the cartels or else, you know.
	Like, something like 35 Mexican politicians were shot in the run-up to the latest elections.
	So Mexico is not...
	I mean, I don't know the full stories of those allegations.
	No, but when you have 35 people shot running for office, I think it's safe to say anyone who makes it through that...
	But the point being, for her, there is an ethnic particularity and connection here.
	She says, no, they are our fellow countrymen.
	They are colonists in America.
	And they are making money in America and they're sending it home to Mexico.
	And the Mexican economy, 65 billion, that's not a small amount of money.
	So they don't want that to be reduced.
	And so you've got, this is in response to the President of the Mexican Senate, that Eric Schmidt, because of course the President of the Mexican Senate.
	It's entirely in all of their interests.
	And they're not happy.
	When you think about it, 3.5%, that's really not really a very great amount of money.
	No, no, I was just giving a pretty quick calculation about 1.1, 1.2 billion of the 64. It's really not very much.
	It's not very much at all.
	If you're selling $100 back to Mexico, they get $96.5.
	Okay?
	I mean, I would expect fewer than that on just transaction fees.
	You know, I'm probably getting screwed like that whenever I make a card payment.
	So, that's not really a very high amount.
	And yet, this has got them all in a tizzy.
	And so, good on Eric Schmidt here being like, yesterday at a press conference, he laughed at the idea.
	Guess what?
	The remittance tax just got 5% higher.
	It should just be 100%, right?
	Don't allow it.
	No, don't allow it.
	Give them no incentive to do it whatsoever.
	Absolutely none.
	And lots of Mexicans will willingly leave, right?
	But the thing is, so you've got this conflict going between the US government and the Mexican government over the Mexican government's understanding of their citizens as essentially colonists in the United States sending money back.
	And then the sort of lefty types decided to chime in and try to make moral arguments as to why the Mexicans should be able to do this.
	You get someone like Katy Perry, right?
	Now, Katy Perry, not very important, but she does have millions of followers, and she'll say stupid things to millions of people, and so you do have to kind of debunk them.
	So, Los Angeles, a place that literally begun as El Pueblo de Nuestra Sonora, La Reina de Founded by Mexican settlers in 1781.
	Okay, hang on a second.
	Mexico didn't exist in 1781.
	It was a province of the Spanish Empire, right?
	This was once Mexican land, yeah, for about 30 years in the early 1800s, right?
	The people being targeted today are often descendants of those who lived here for generations or who came seeking safety, work, and dignity.
	Okay, so what?
	Could you not have stayed in space?
	The air's got to her a little bit, to be honest, hasn't it?
	Unfortunately, deporting people to Mars is not yet something Elon Musk has figured out.
	Stop beefing with Trump.
	Let's deport these people to Mars.
	Anyway, you can just look this up.
	The founding of Los Angeles is not in any way a mystery hidden from the light of history or anything like that.
	It was originally done in 1781, and we know exactly who it was.
	There were 44 settlers, some of them from Mexico, others who were Spanish.
	Go over, set up a small town.
	And in 1821, I think it was, Mexico got its independence and by 1835 it was declared a city and then it was lost to the United States by 1850 because the Mexican-American War was lost by Mexico because Mexico isn't really a proper state, frankly, and it wasn't capable of mustering a proper army.
	And so Mexico owned Los Angeles for a grand total of about 30 years.
	The United States has owned Mexico Los Angeles for 170 years.
	And the Mexicans themselves were colonists.
	Los Angeles is a long way away from Mexico, actually, if you look at it on a map.
	The Mexicans are not indigenous to Los Angeles.
	This was a Spanish colony that took some Mexicans from the center of America.
	To the West Coast.
	So, I'm not in any way having this, oh, they had it first, they're the indigenous people.
	No, they're not.
	Yeah, but hang on, if we had it first in England, it doesn't apply to us.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	But this is the general theme that you get from all of the activism around it.
	But it's also the general theme that you get from the Mexicans themselves.
	They don't consider themselves to be Mexicans.
	Let's watch this.
	Americans.
	Let's watch this.
	What is the best country in the world?
	The best country in the world, right now, Mexico.
	Do you identify as an American?
	I'm a Mexican-American.
	That's what they labeled me as, so I'm Mexican first.
	So deportation is not so bad?
	It's not so bad.
	We just go on a vacation.
	One week, we'll be back.
	This is not just in America's soil.
	No, this is indigenous soil.
	This is everybody's soil.
	We were here first.
	Our ancestors were here first.
	Why should we have to leave?
	We live in this country and we want to be in this country and even more, we are going to continue in this country.
	All the Latin countries are amazing.
	All the Latin countries are amazing?
	Yeah.
	But why do they want to be here then?
	Well, no, deportation means you stay there for good, you don't come back.
	I don't think that happens.
	I'll be right back.
	So, as you can see from the people protesting, they have a colonialist mindset.
	Yes.
	We've somehow been allowed to live here.
	Why should we leave?
	Well, the answer is you lost a war, and Mexico is not the administrative body that governs California.
	It's actually the United States government, and if they're going to make you leave, then they're going to make you leave.
	And if you don't like it, well, arm yourselves up and see how it goes, right?
	And this is why Mexico talking tough to the United States is like, what do you think you're going to do?
	You don't have control of large portions of your country.
	You're not going to do anything to the United States government.
	And to be honest with you, if I have Trump, I'd just annex a bit of Mexico.
	I'm not even joking.
	I would literally just send 2,000 guys down, choose a border town, and say, right, this is American territory now.
	Now what?
	What now?
	You know, I would literally be upping the ante and just tell them to screw themselves.
	Also the caliber of a colonist is not exactly the same, is it?
	You think about where the true wealth of California came from, with the gold rush in the middle of the 1800s and these prospectors, these incredible industrial men who, whereas South America never really seemed to be able to get itself, it was always volatile, always constantly falling in on itself.
	Also, California and the desert leading up to it, as well as the area that's now Texas, was basically unpopulated.
	When the, when, when the Mexican government first invited Anglo settlers to go to Texas, there were 7,000 people occupying that entire territory.
	So that is basically I mean, obviously Trump has renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Texas.
	Oh, Gulf of America.
	Gulf of America.
	So why don't you just take over Mexico and just call it Trumpico?
	Maybe if you want.
	Just do anything because these people...
	And they're not respectful.
	Apart from money.
	They're not respectful.
	I mean, look at this one.
	This is our city!
	And this was Mexico!
	You can't kick us out of the land that was ours!
	Yeah, we can, actually.
	Like, this is what men with guns do.
	This is all history.
	We absolutely can, but notice this.
	Right, this is ours, not yours.
	We are not you.
	We are not Americans.
	We are Mexicans and we're unhappy that you colonized us and you might be okay.
	Well, you know this this This surely isn't really that much of a deal.
	Are they really being serious about that?
	Yeah.
	Because here's the president of the Mexico Senate saying, yeah, we're going to build a wall, and we are going to pay for it, but look at the wall that he wants.
	He wants a return to the 1830 borders.
	It's not just ridiculous activists on the floor, it is also the elected politicians in Mexico.
	So they do like borders, they're just questioning where the border actually lies.
	Yeah, they just don't like your borders, because your borders contain wealth.
	And Mexico's borders contain trouble.
	And what they would actually like is access to your wealth by exporting their people into your land so they can recolonise it for the future.
	And bringing you their trouble.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But look at what he's saying here.
	We're all in trouble if Italy and Maloney then decide that they want to reenact their borders.
	Thankfully, they're never going to be able to do that.
	Same reasons that Mexicans can't.
	But anyway, you'll see this.
	We'll do it according to the 1830 map of Mexico.
	Mexicans were settled in these territories before the US.
	Okay, so now we have ethnic claims from an irredentist Mexican government that completely coheres with what the activists themselves also believe.
	They are not Americans, they are Mexicans.
	So now what are you going to do about that?
	Trump is not having it.
	Let's watch a little bit of this speech.
	And Trump is absolutely right in this speech.
	The agitators are throwing firebombs, Molotov cocktails, lighting vehicles ablaze.
	You saw the cars that were burning, mobbing police officers and ice officers who were the toughest people you'll ever meet.
	And they love our country and they're getting really tried to.
	They don't allow it.
	And attempting to infiltrate and occupy federal buildings wearing armor and face shields.
	The best money can buy somebody's financing it.
	We're going to find out through Pam Bondi and Department of Justice who it is.
	They're already on it.
	Who's financing all this equipment?
	Very professional.
	Under the Trump administration, this anarchy will not stand.
	We will not allow federal agents to be attacked.
	And we will not allow an American city to be invaded and conquered by a foreign enemy.
	That.
	That is correct.
	They call themselves They have literally explicitly, and again, it's the activists, it's the people online, it's the government, have literally explicitly said, these are our countrymen, this is our territory, and as part of the demographic wave that we are happy to send into your country, we are going to take it back.
	We want our old borders back.
	Okay.
	Trump recognizes it as an invasion.
	And it's correct.
	This is what is happening.
	And the average sort of lib who's just like, oh, but what about individual human rights?
	This is not what's happening.
	What's happening here is on a much more human level of the way that politics works, it is the collective ego of the two sides of people and...
	Many politicians can't do that for some reason these days, but the Mexican president can, the president of the Mexican Senate can, and Donald Trump can.
	So he's like, no, we're not having this foreign invasion.
	We are going to liberate Los Angeles.
	and good for them.
	So Trump has indeed sent national troops Newsom has been squealing about this like a stuck pig, but he's not really been able to do anything about it.
	I mean, the media's being like, oh, I can't get that for some reason.
	Is it because we're in Europe or something like this?
	Okay, so what this ABC News article said is that there are 4,800 activated Guard and Marine personnel in LA compared to the 2,500 troops in Iraq and 1,500 in Syria.
	Good?
	Why would that matter?
	If you've got an insurrection by people who are claiming that they're Mexicans and that this is Mexico's land, which is exactly the same as somebody going into a different country and coming over here like Germany and saying, you know, Britain is German because the Angles came from us first and we want it back, Mr. Hiller.
	We're quite happy to put our own military on our own borders and repel them.
	So the idea that just because they happen to have come over, claimed asylum, doesn't change the fact if they're saying that they're Mexican and it's a Mexican country.
	If they're literally acting at the behest of their own governments as well, like, sorry, this is not just a series of individuals who are given...
	These are people who collectively understand themselves to be operating on behalf of a foreign state.
	And they're demanding the Americans cede territory to this foreign state.
	And their government accepts, yeah, no, they should be ceding foreign territory to our state.
	They should be giving us their money.
	What was he actually claiming here in this video?
	Was he saying that, you know, he wants all that land in America all up to those borders?
	Yeah, I mean, he's just tough talking.
	He's not going to enforce it or anything like that.
	This is unacceptable and totally disrespectful to the Americans.
	And the fact that you've got people as high up as Gavin Newsom siding with them basically has an entire state in rebellion?
	Yeah, essentially.
	I mean, at the moment, California is filing lawsuits against Trump of his unlawful deployment.
	But really, this is not about...
	This is about something that has to be settled by sentiment, right?
	It is not acceptable to have presumably millions of Mexicans in the United States, particularly in California, who are like, no, we're going to flip this territory.
	For Mexico.
	Are we seeing any of the kind of influencers like, you know, Charlie Kirk or others that are behind the kind of Trump philosophy being able to promulgate this idea that Trump should be saying that if you are actually Mexican, claiming that you're Mexican, this is Mexican land, you have no right to be here.
	Are we seeing that at all?
	Is there any push in that?
	I haven't seen anyone say explicitly that, but you can see there's a much more nativist direction in which the American naga...
	Yeah, that's what I saw.
	Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh.
	Yeah, Matt Walsh.
	All the sort of conservative ink sort of types.
	And that is a good start.
	But they're not pushing.
	But it's far too late for them.
	There are millions of Mexicans.
	In Los Angeles and various other places who aren't Americans, don't think they're Americans, and actually, viva la Mexico, right?
	And you've got the sort of, like, brain-look conservative take of, oh, why are they protesting about being deported to a place they love?
	No, they're imperialists.
	They want your territory.
	That's why they're there, to claim the territory.
	And they will just tell you this when you ask them, right?
	So anyway, there's going to be a legal action over it.
	And Gavin Newsom, like I said, he's been squealing like an absolute pig over this.
	Oh, Donald Trump's acting like a dictator.
	Come and arrest me.
	It's like, look, man, you have a genuine foreign insurrection happening on your hands.
	Like, you have to do something.
	It used to be one of America's dual cities.
	San Francisco and Los Angeles.
	When I was growing up, They were, weren't they?
	They were.
	You'd see the cars coming down, you know.
	Dirty Harry pulling out.
	Exactly.
	The movies came from here, you know.
	And the weather was always beautiful.
	The people were beautiful.
	And it's a shock when you go there.
	It's atrocious.
	I mean, I got there.
	I got there.
	It was a huge shock.
	Absolutely.
	And nice parts are actually those away from the cities.
	Absolutely.
	You know, I had some lovely places where you went and got great wines, the vineyards out there.
	But they're filled with, like, real merit.
	Not hyphened Americans.
	Not Mexican-Americans where I'm Mexico first.
	It shouldn't be controversial to say this, and yet what we're saying is a controversial statement, right?
	But anyway, nearly two-thirds of Americans are like, yes, do something about the Mexicans rampaging around Los Angeles.
	But that was one poll.
	YouGov did a poll, and apparently 45% of the people were like, no, I love Mexicans rampaging around Mexico and trying to flip the state to Mexico.
	I mean, for anyone who doesn't know, this is what happened.
	This is how Texas ended up joining the United States, right?
	Basically, the Mexicans were like, okay, we've got a giant empty territory.
	We'll accept some Anglo immigrants into it.
	And they accepted something like 200,000 or something like that.
	And then they were like, yeah, we don't want to be part of Mexico because we're not Mexican.
	I wonder what would have happened if Trump said, OK, have California.
	I'm going to close off the border, by the way, and, you know, it's done.
	You're a done deal now.
	Get into Mexico.
	How quickly would all those companies that are there shift?
	From there, because they know that the cartels are coming, the gangsters are going to control them, and all the nice holiday resorts and houses that they might have picked up over the years will disappear to when Mr Pueblo turns around and says, it is my house.
	It would be very, very quickly, but I'm very tired of the sort of mindset of retreat.
	No, no.
	Just give it.
	But no, go and annex a couple of Mexican border towns and then expel the occupants or something, I don't know.
	Like, teach them a lesson is my opinion.
	But the point is, Even then, 38% approve, 45% disprove, 17% not sure.
	We'll take silence as consent, and so most approve.
	But the point that I find really interesting about this is Newsom has basically taken ownership of all of the Mexicans in California, right?
	I mean, look at what he says here, right?
	California will keep fighting on behalf of all our people, including in the courts.
	Right, so the Mexicans, who are like, viva la Mexico, California is Mexican soil, Gavin Newsom's like, yeah, they're our people.
	So what, are you going to join Mexico?
	What do you think the options are here?
	This is ridiculous.
	And then just screaming that Trump's a dictator, even though he obviously isn't a dictator.
	Yeah, and the thing is, okay, what's the plan, Gavin?
	saying, oh, this is un-American.
	Sorry, deploying the Marines to stop a Mexican incursion into America actually is un-American.
	It's got precedent.
	Yeah, it's got precedent.
	It's how you ended up with California in the first place.
	But, you know, saying, oh, these are our people, it's un-American.
	But the thing is, is this not un-American?
	Is standing on top of a burning police car waving a Mexican flag not un-American to Gavin Newsom?
	This is what he's in defense of.
	It's like, sorry, do you think this guy thinks of himself as an American?
	Or do you think he thinks of himself as a colonizer?
	He is there to take Mexican territory, and Gavin Newsom can sit there and whine, oh, arrest me all you want, but that's the deal.
	And I guess I'll just finish this one on Douglas Mackey has been looking into the legal situation here.
	It is possible for anyone who's been participating in an insurrection or rebellion to have their citizenship revoked.
	So if Trump were to have it done through the courts, that actually...
	He's actually someone who's engaged in an insurrection here, which, I mean, it kind of looks like it to me.
	Like, yes, we're rejecting the state authority of the police and waving a Mexican flag as if this is claimed territory.
	I mean, I don't think it's the weakest argument I've ever heard for what an insurrection could actually be.
	Well, what you can do is get them denaturalized, and once they're denaturalized, you could deport them.
	So there is actually a legal route by which this could all be done, and the Mexican population of California could just be sent home, which is where really they belong, isn't it?
	I mean, it is in their hearts anyway.
	So anyway, And I don't think this is going to be the end of it or anything like that.
	But these are the fractures that are being dealt with here.
	You have a large population of foreign people who understand themselves to be foreign, are not in any way interested in becoming Americans, but are instead very interested in reclaiming your territory where you've allowed them to live for Mexico.
	And it's like, okay, you're going to have to deal with that.
	Right?
	You're going to have to deal with that at some point, or you'll end up with a Texas situation on your hands.
	Lots of comments on this.
	I'll be surprised if there isn't.
	Yeah.
	It's always too low.
	I can't ever see the thing.
	Logan says, happy saying my LA clients are okay, no one was hurt.
	On a side note, as a smarter man than me said, make flogging great again.
	Yeah, I'm toasting.
	Well, I mean, I don't think blowing her up is the necessary thing, but honestly, just adding a couple of crappy border towns.
	Just teach them a lesson.
	Well, the cartels will just replace whoever they feel is good.
	Exactly, yes.
	Has anyone seen China build a 158-kilometer highway entirely by autonomous robots and drones?
	No, I haven't, but...
	Sigilstone says, General Motors has announced a $4 billion push to move back the manufacturing out of Mexico and back to the US.
	Sucks to suck, yep.
	If I were Trump, I would just annex a bit of Mexico.
	Carl, we already have Mississippi.
	We don't need another failed state.
	Yeah, I know, but this is about the principle of it.
	It's like, oh, we're going to take California.
	No, you're not.
	And you're going to lose something now.
	Neil and Rilla said, L.A. was founded by Spanish missionaries, not indigenous natives, as part of Spain's empire.
	Well, they did have some Mexicans with them, but Mexicans aren't from California.
	When Mexico lost California in 1848, only 7,500 Mexicans lived there.
	Most were not born in California, obviously.
	Ryan says, America crushed Mexico all the way to Mexico City and the Polk administration.
	That's because Mexico, their armies have been always terrible, frankly.
	Mexico's independence came down entirely to a debate, decided Mexico was trouble and left.
	Trump needs a Polk portrait.
	There, that would be funny.
	If Mexico wants to push the old indigenous land claims, do they also want to push the old way of how that's handled?
	They want a new Pax Romana to exterminate the very concept of Mexican.
	I'm sure they don't.
	Be careful dragging the past into the modern day.
	You'll get more of it than you want.
	Josio says Mexican food is slop.
	Hey, man, you'd have to persuade me.
	And Neo says, of the roughly 200 men who fought defending the Alamo, 20 were Mexicans under the command of Juan Sequin and Gregorio Espaza.
	It's why Mexicans in Texas are a different character, calling them...
	Very interesting.
	Anyway, no, I didn't know that, but let's move on.
	All right.
	So, troubles in Northern Ireland, I'm afraid, though perhaps the island isn't usually historically associated with.
	It's a different flavour of trouble, unfortunately.
	I can't help but notice that the theme of the podcast today is the echoes of history coming back to haunt us.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it seems to be.
	And I suppose that's quite relevant because a lot like...
	And who has a right to which particular territory?
	And I would like to suggest, admittedly, controversially, that perhaps the Irish have a right to Ireland.
	Now, I know this might seem a controversial take, It is.
	And the reason it's become so radical, as you no doubt highlight in your new documentary, The Death of Man, is the enlightenment story of the rationalization of the world and the way that it's equalized and erodes any particularisms that mean that certain places belong to certain people.
	And to eradicate the categories that basically make genuine human diversity in the world actually worth it.
	I mean, the very notion of the Enlightenment is the atomized individual who exists prior to their existence within a group.
	And so really what liberalism and the Enlightenment as a whole is trying to do is liberate us from all of these unchosen obligations.
	So we are essentially just...
	And it's like, OK, but that's crazy and not true.
	That was never the case.
	We've never existed.
	We're an atom, but we just don't form into anything else.
	Right.
	And that's what liberalism is.
	But that's certainly what the liberalist idea is, that individuality of singleness.
	And I also look, it's easy to control.
	If you don't have any bonds to society, if you don't have bonds to a country, if you don't have bonds to your family, then the biggest atom...
	I mean, Rousseau expressly said that people should be maximally dependent on the state.
	But the point is, in this documentary, I'm pointing out that there are actually some logical consequences of that that are pretty negative, actually.
	And we end up in a completely materialistic world in which nothing is special and nothing is sacred, and that's not good.
	No, not at all.
	The Enlightenment was the knife we drew across God's throat.
	So if you're interested in seeing how we got there, how the Enlightenment has brought us to this point, go and check out Cal's wonderful documentary.
	I'm making quite a strong claim there, I appreciate it.
	I think I back it up in the documentary.
	So let's assess how we got...
	Sorry, just a quick thing.
	I've only been following this tangentially.
	It's been, what, two or three days of actual rioting?
	There were two days of rioting.
	Yeah, two days of rioting.
	Day four as well now.
	I think we're on day four today, just a little bit at the same time as California went off.
	The original event...
	No, although there are...
	So one of the interesting things, so this, in answer to your question, Stephen, this all really kicked off on Saturday.
	Right.
	This kicked off on Saturday because there was news that a local 13-year-old girl was attempt, well, there was an attempted rape by two 14-year-old boys, right?
	And this is, just for a bit of background, on Balimina.
	The town that this happened in.
	It's the seventh largest town in Northern Ireland.
	But as we know, Northern Ireland doesn't have a particularly high population.
	1.6 million.
	2 million.
	Yeah, 1.9.
	And this town in particular only has about 30,000 people living in it.
	So it's a very small place in the grand scheme of things.
	And this, and one of the also interesting things is the fact that the town itself is...
	Or is it Northern Irish?
	Northern Irish.
	Yes.
	So what we had here was this, so these two boys were brought in, And one of the telling things was that they required Romanian interpreters.
	Oh, did they?
	In order to process, yeah, in order to deny the allegations.
	So that speaks to just what we're dealing with here.
	So some just general information about, because even though Ballymina is 96% Irish, just so happens to be this place of yes Klanavon Terrace and you've got so 57 percent were not born in either 64% were of a foreign background.
	And 60% of Harveyville primary school students don't speak English as a first language.
	So it's a very small colony.
	They have living among them.
	It is.
	So I go to here, yeah, as you say, 94%.
	White overall.
	And this here, though, is interesting.
	So they're mainly, you talk about the Irish, so these are mainly Catholics.
	So these would have been the kind of pro-unification of Ireland and, let's say, you know, friends with the other Sinn Féin-type supporters.
	Is that how they also vote?
	Oh, is it?
	Oh, the religion on the right.
	Yeah, you've got about 50% sort of...
	Okay.
	So, yeah, it's still majority Northern Irish, Anglo-Irish, I guess we call them.
	I'm not sure.
	But it's also interesting, isn't it, to just assess the past few years of Irish history and how we saw recently, didn't we, the fact that Irish Catholics and Protestants banding together.
	In the face of mass immigration.
	Perhaps we're more alike than we previously thought.
	That's what I was thinking, just driving towards, is where we're getting to on this.
	Absolutely.
	And one thing that I also just wanted to bring up as regards to the census was the fact that of those who are foreign-born, 52% of them arrived in the past 15 years.
	Right.
	So even though Northern Ireland, generally speaking, has until now been...
	It's coming.
	It's always coming.
	It's always on the horizon.
	So, I just want to pause on that, because there are a lot of people who, I bet, are watching this, who are in some nice little village somewhere in Devon, or somewhere in the northeast, maybe Northern Ireland, who are just thinking, well, these are problems that are a long way away from me.
	We haven't got a diversified thing yet.
	We've only got two Indian restaurants and a Turkish barber's.
	What's the problem?
	Yeah, this is the science.
	This is the beginning of your diversification.
	It is coming.
	It is spreading out.
	They're going to get the entire country.
	Nowhere is going to be safe.
	The fires of Isengard will spread.
	Precisely.
	Yes.
	Precisely.
	So, as regards...
	So, off the back of this attempted rape that these two boys have been charged with, obviously the locals of the town wanted to obviously come out in defiance against this...
	against the rest of the community.
	And you can see here, as David points out, these locals organising on Facebook and trying to hold the...
	So, pardon me, House 7. And from there, this is where, again, it starts out and you can tell that tensions are very, very high.
	And ultimately, some rash, warm-blooded actors are obviously going to demand personal views And obviously the reason for this is because, you know, even though the demographics of this particular town might be relatively homogenous, they're not blind to what goes on in other places.
	They've seen Southport.
	They've seen Dublin.
	They know what happens.
	They know, as you were saying, they know where this leads.
	And so even though I'm obviously not condoning mass violence and all these sorts of things, you can understand why people, when the state takes justice away from them...
	The Liberals are going to argue, aren't they, very clearly.
	Oh no, we are doing justice.
	We've took them in, we've given them, we're questioning them, you've not gone through the court system yet, just as they did with Southport.
	And by the way, this is just a bunch of far-rightists who are trying to cause trouble on immigration.
	And I've always said, though, be very, very careful about who's actually starting these riots.
	It goes back to when I was in the...
	How do we know that this is not state-backed organisation or lefties antitha trying to do this so that they can give a bad name, just as they did in Southport?
	Right.
	Well, exactly.
	In my view.
	Well, it's a genuine concern.
	It's a genuine concern.
	And we know from the way that the British state deals with these sorts of things.
	That's exactly what we're getting to.
	They will absolutely manipulate events in order to create the outcome that they want, which will justify more crackdown, more power, and more disenfranchisement of the working people.
	This is the real question of justice.
	The individual case, as bad as it obviously is, is not the justice that is being denied.
	The justice that is being denied is the ability to have a safe and harmonious community in which you don't have to worry about your daughters being raped by foreigners.
	That's the justice that's being denied.
	People don't articulate it that way, but that's what's really driving this.
	And I've just got a video here because it goes through the day quite succinctly.
	So we'll just watch this for a second.
	So one thing I just want to emphasise is you can't talk over it.
	If the noise is on, you just can't hear it.
	So what's going on here?
	Well, this is so you can see here that there's a vigil, there's a mass gathering, and then the police.
	What's on fire there?
	Bins, garbage, anything flammable.
	There were bricks being hurled at police cars.
	There were molotovs being thrown.
	And there was, there does seem to have been quite a deal of violence.
	Over the, some 15 people were arrested and almost just as many policemen were injured over the past few days.
	The consequence, what was the size of the town again?
	30,000-ish.
	30,000, and I've already just counted nine militarised, kind of army-style police vans with batons and all the rest of it, for a street of 30,000 going down one street.
	This, to me, looks like the state overreach.
	Where is the reach-out to the community leaders from the state in this particular one?
	Where's the sit-down, the pal-pal, that would come along as if they were Pakistani organisations, angry as they did in there?
	I don't see any of that.
	What I do see straight away is the heavy-handedness of the police going in on this particular issue.
	When it's the reverse of what we're seeing in California.
	I mean, the appropriate response would be then say, yep, we appreciate this is something that a foreign community has done to your community.
	And so what we're going to do is we're going to make mandatory everyone in that foreign community, one, learn English, and two, sit down and explain to them how they have to behave.
	We're going to make sure that they have to do a three-week course or something.
	Everyone in this community has to sit down, learn English, do this three-week course, and then...
	Because what that shows is that it's the majority community dictating to the minority community how they have to live to live alongside them.
	So the people can feel, no, we are.
	We are the people in control of this.
	We are going to get this overall underpinning justice of, you know, we will be the ones taken care of by our own country.
	And instead, like you say, in Britain it goes the other way.
	It's always the other way.
	No, no, not at all.
	The minorities are trapped with kid gloves, and the working classes get the water cannons.
	What is the community?
	Is it just a Roma community?
	Is it Romanian?
	So we can't argue this time it's about Islam.
	It's just about the nature of that community coming in.
	So when they're talking about far right, aren't they going to be arguing it's white to white?
	Well, I mean, technically, yeah.
	Well, it's just anti-foreign, isn't it?
	Ah, so it's an extension of the argument.
	It's about ethnicity and nationality.
	Stephen, xenophobia is xenophobia.
	And we disavow xenophobia of all colours in all forms.
	So, yeah, things got really, really hairy out there.
	And what's more from there?
	As I say, these were arrests over one day, six arrests on the second night in Balamina.
	And so then, of course, you have the reaction to all of this from the state itself after the carnage is all done with.
	So this was, yes, the police in Northern Ireland and...
	I'll just play 20 seconds.
	Just turn it up, Samson, please.
	This violence was clearly racially motivated and targeted at our minority ethnic community and the police.
	It was racist, thuggery, pure and simply, and any attempt to justify or explain it as something else is misplaced.
	Right, so we're not going to listen to you.
	You are the bad people, and the minorities, of whom some of the, again, very small community, and yet two of them are now accused of being rapists, they're the ones we're going to protect?
	In the face of their predation on you.
	Unbelievable.
	Completely the wrong way to calm all this down.
	No wonder people are pissed off.
	Again, this is the state setting its face against you.
	And the police federation for Northern Ireland said that the attack on police officers was totally mindless, unacceptable, and feral.
	Mindless.
	Totally divorcing this from any sense of context.
	Yeah, as if something didn't happen.
	Yes.
	I mean, this is some bland, boring, dull character sitting in the PR department of the police saying...
	And I wouldn't care which political party individual it was.
	I'm going to say the same.
	Yeah.
	And also, it comes down to that thing that, OK, well, yes, so there have been these two attempted rapes and they're absolutely terrible.
	And the people of this town should never have had to contemplate that thing happening in the first place.
	And it wouldn't have happened were it not for...
	Government policy.
	Yeah, government policy.
	This is a product of government policy.
	And it also goes totally in line with things like this.
	Asylum accommodation costs rise to 400 million in Northern Ireland.
	You've got to pay for the privilege.
	All these things fuse together to create this tension that will eventually boil over.
	When you throw so...
	When the state throws so much antagonistic energies, all of their dedicated energies, towards...
	You mean diverse?
	Yeah, diverse for the Irish.
	These things are going to happen.
	And the authorities have no way of diffusing the tension because they refuse to admit to a single mistake.
	They refuse to identify the fact that diversity is a weakness.
	It brings crime and distrust.
	They refuse to discipline the community that is responsible for the attack.
	Yes.
	And they're instead trying to discipline the Irish, Northern Irish community.
	I couldn't agree more with that.
	It's unacceptable.
	It's victim-blaming once more.
	It is, yeah.
	It's victim-blaming.
	It is.
	I found this one sensible opinion amongst it all, though, from a Timothy Gaston.
	Maybe the Irish people aren't the problem when a bunch of Romanian kids try to rape an Irish girl.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, maybe.
	It says, some in the house may not want to hear it, but you cannot say that you have not been warned.
	There is a deep concern in parts of Balimina about the significant demographic change in recent years, particularly due to the resettlement of Roma families, with their often And so, yes, it's a tale that we just see happening in more and more remote places now.
	And ultimately, as I say, even though Northern Ireland has been relatively protected from this for quite a long time, it is coming.
	There will be more Balaminas.
	There seems no sign on the horizon, really, that the British state is going to pivot and do address any of the concerns that led to this in the first place.
	Yeah, and I think there's also another attack line that the people of Balamina and people of towns across the country, and here they're fairly relatively contained in a certain area.
	So what needs to happen is to be able to find out who owns the houses.
	It's quite easy to find that out in the land registry and if it's a company Find out who owns the house and target them.
	Target them with peaceful demonstrations.
	Target them with emails.
	Find out who the individuals in those companies are.
	Find out what the shareholders are and make complaints to each of them, all of them lawfully.
	I'm not saying in any way, shape, or form.
	Just make sure, MI5, as you're listening to this, I am not advocating any violence at all because I know you want to arrest us in any way you can.
	So just do so.
	Find a way, another way of campaigning, because that's exactly how the left would do it.
	Yes.
	And it's about time we did as well.
	I would just draw also a thread between your last segment as well, Carl, and say about when you look at these people from California, right, the Mexicans who are basically in open rebellion, even they think, wow, just...
	screaming rebellion from California, from inside America itself.
	No, it's not.
	I wouldn't think of doing it.
	No, but they do, because they actually feel that the state of California protects them.
	Newsom took ownership of it.
	our people.
	Trump represents, finally, a modern liberal...
	For the first time in decades.
	Exactly.
	Whereas in this case, it's a total inversion of that paradigm.
	This is the people who do actually have a right to the land bravely standing up to their own government.
	Well, I was about to raise that point.
	Here we have a two-tier approach by the states, both in terms of the way that we defend or oppose the opposition here.
	In California, they're defending those who are taking over the land and saying it's their own or indeed belonging to Mexico.
	But in Balaamena, they're attacking the people who belong to land who live there for those who are coming in to take it over.
	And so what we've Unfortunately, it's a much longer conversation than we just don't have to.
	So we'll have to come back to that another time.
	Right then.
	Well, I'll just go through some of the comments here.
	So it says, Doomscroller Diogenes says, I'm from Northern Ireland.
	Migrants come here because housing is cheaper than Britain, but they have no idea what they're getting into.
	We are a fragmented, volatile polity that they will never understand.
	Logan, sorry for missing you.
	It says, also troubles in Ireland again.
	At this point, just bring back the Empire already.
	Honestly, the argument for the Empire has never been stronger.
	Frankly.
	Things were better when Britain was in charge of everything.
	The argument for the Empire never went away.
	No, I agree.
	But the evidence of what happens when we're not there, well, I mean, it's not going great, is it?
	No.
	Sigilstone17 says, if you're going to keep quoting Lord of the Rings, I did it once, okay, then you need to start showing the Daily Gondor on the show.
	Daily Gondor is a great, great account.
	I love the Daily Gondor.
	What are you talking about?
	I shall bring more in Daily Gondor, yes.
	All right.
	Johan says, Carl, what's your interview with Justin Brearley?
	It was fantastic, by the way.
	If you want a moral lecture from the Bible, search Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God on YouTube.
	I really want it when I'm in the church.
	If I have to go to a church, I don't want some wishy-washy, floppy, like, modern, oh, Jesus, just wanted a sword to get along.
	No, I want someone being like, right, you're all sinners, and this is why.
	Sigil Stone also says, Luke, are you a member of the Sanford Police?
	Handle those gypsies and crusty jugglers for the greater good.
	Anyway.
	The greater good.
	You've got a lot of square bits on there.
	I'm going to crack on with this.
	Now, we're going to do it one more time because The Death of Man is brilliant.
	I've been watching it.
	It's absolutely superb.
	And I think anybody who's not watched it so far, it needs to get out there straight away, put your hand in pocket, and do and see where we're all going.
	Because there's a link between all our three titles.
	And actually, there's been a link.
	To the last four or five that we've seen on there.
	And that comes down to philosophy, the concepts of ourselves as individuals and where we're going in the future.
	And Carla's particularly put that out in The Death of Man, and I recommend it to you.
	Going on here, we're going to now talk about...
	We've done a lot of it over the past week or so.
	I've been told on NX, you're now a totally anti-Faraj, anti-reform man.
	But they are the gift that keeps on giving at the moment.
	You know, here is the opportunity of a political party.
	On the right.
	Sucks up the entire right.
	Sucks up the whole right.
	Gives us the opportunity to take out the Uni Party.
	Gives us the chance to think, yes, we've finally got change.
	And people are not only flocking to them as members, helping them on the streets, their voters are coming with them because they're sick and tired.
	And there is an ideology about it.
	We're strong on immigration.
	We are concerned about the rise of Islam in this country.
	Spending far too much.
	You know, we want to control.
	All completely reasonable things.
	And that's what they say.
	And then they appoint a new chairman, which I said is not really a chairman.
	I think he's the head of membership.
	And that is Dr. David Bull, who, you know, I kind of pass him every now and again when I'm going on to the talk TV thing on a weekend.
	You know, generally, you know.
	He's a lovely chap.
	Lovely, affable guy, but he's named as the new chairman, which I think is funny in the first instance, isn't it?
	When Nigel Farage says, I'm going to announce a new chairman, and Zia Youssef is going off to look after Doge.
	But he'll also look after all the fundraising, the job of the chairman.
	He's also going to deal with all the administration, the head of the chairman.
	He's dealing with the policy of the chairman, and he'll be my limb.
	Yeah, my right-hand man.
	My right-hand man.
	Shadow chairman.
	Job of the chairman, isn't it?
	So anyway, David Ball has just announced that all he's going to do is wander around the country just talking to members.
	Someone's got to do it, I suppose.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's the new definition of chairman for all political parties, is the head of membership.
	I've heard the members aren't happy, so someone needs to.
	No, he's hugely excited by this, apparently.
	And he says, I did realise the only way he could go was to resign and then come back, he jokes.
	So he's doing another joke about resigning and coming back.
	So he's announced.
	But amongst his first interviews, I think this is where we're now beginning to see the real heart of the leadership, or at least the top tier individuals within reform.
	Everyone was like, oh, who's the new chairman going to be?
	It's like, look, there are about three people that Nigel has to choose from at this point.
	It's going to be Lee Anderson, Richard Tice.
	David Bull or Aaron Banks.
	He's got no one else around him.
	There's no other talent.
	There's no one loyal to him.
	He has carved everyone else off.
	So it's like, okay, we'll just roll a dice, you know, you're going to pick someone.
	Or maybe it's the Lebanese millionaire that we'll come to.
	You know, that maybe wouldn't have sent off the right pictures.
	So now we've got the LGBT and Islam, and I'm neither racist or homophobic.
	Well, they'll never accuse you again.
	No, they won't.
	That addresses all of my concerns.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't care about policy.
	It just works for the BBC.
	It works for ITV.
	It works for Sky.
	So therefore, everything's good in the world.
	Finally, the libs will leave me alone.
	Shut up, guys.
	I might be able to go to Hawksmoor and have a steak without being kicked out.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's it.
	I'm not those dirty people.
	It's so supine.
	It's so pathetic.
	So here we go.
	Oh, hang on.
	No, this is the first point.
	Maybe it's come down there.
	We've got through what he's supposed to have said.
	Hours after he's come, I think it's just flipped out, but I'll go back to it then.
	So David Bull then turns around in his first interview, and I'm certain when we were putting this, you had it on the video on there, so I don't know if it was one of the other ones we've got it.
	Oh, is it the lifeblood of Britain?
	Yeah, I think this is the one it is.
	I must have gotten the wrong way around here.
	David Bull turns around and says that immigration is the lifeblood of the country.
	I mean, I just want to listen to this.
	Are there any other items of clothing that you think are a threat to public safety?
	So I think that the key for me about this is it's about integrating into this country.
	Immigration is the lifeblood of this country.
	It always has been.
	But also, if you come to this country, you have to adopt our culture.
	Sounds like David Cameron!
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Oh my god.
	I tweeted out yesterday in reaction to this.
	Far from being the lifeblood of the country, it's actually put the country on life support.
	It's poisonous.
	That is a very good one.
	Yeah, it's killing our country.
	It is, but even the idea that it's the lifeblood, to me, is like simply saying that the blood of immigrants has been running all the way through.
	The veins of the United Kingdom, of England, Scotland and Wales.
	Also, we die without them.
	And that's it.
	We die without it.
	The days of Alfred and Aethelstan, even before that.
	Before the idea.
	Yes.
	No one will argue that as the rocks were moving apart from Europe and coming back again, a few Celts came over from the steppes of the Middle East and crossed over and lived.
	How many thousands of years back?
	That's about 12,000 or 14,000.
	Exactly.
	Then we join up again, and of course then we had Celts and then the Brits and the Romans came over here.
	2,000 years ago.
	And there was only about 5,000 of them.
	They just subjugated us.
	I'm fine to be slaves.
	Well, to be fair, if he wants to compare immigration to conquest, I mean, yeah.
	They're fine, but...
	I mean, we've done genetic testing in Britain.
	There's just been no significant...
	The big change was around 52 to 55, and even that was relatively small.
	it was tailing off until Blair decided that the whole country was going to explode with 1.3 million asylum applicants in one year in the year 2000 and and and so to him to argue that from the years of Ethelstan onwards you know someone's got 1066 there and Dan I'd go a bit further back than that if you wouldn't mind to 1945 and I'd go a little bit later is that you know there's no way that one can argue that immigration It was mostly emigration.
	Yeah, Huguenots over to...
	20,000 Huguenots, they did contribute significantly.
	20,000 Huguenots.
	Yeah, but over 20,000 over 20 years or something like that.
	20,000 French Protestants.
	Yeah.
	Oh, right, okay.
	So you cannot argue that they are the lifeblood of this country.
	you can argue that they're important at the moment, that they're vital in certain areas, unfortunately, because we've had large-scale amigotions.
	But the argument that their lifeblood is wrong, because if they're all left or they're all stopped...
	No, we'd be fine.
	I think things would get better.
	And in that one line, it just shows a total ignorance that is akin to...
	100%.
	And it also misunderstands the whole point that there is a massive argument and discussion going in this country between people who've come here for several generations.
	That immigration is a discussion on most tables about it and all across the workforce.
	Not about race or to a certain extent religion is coming into that on the creed.
	But it's all about numbers and implications and impacts on this nation.
	So to turn around and say it's racist about that is a nonsense.
	Only those who are extreme would argue that.
	Like, that's not the question.
	I mean, notice he points out, well, it's about integration.
	Okay, that ship's sailed.
	The integration ship has sailed.
	Now, in London, we're getting signs up in Urdu or whatever.
	There's nothing left to integrate.
	Bengali.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, it's over.
	The integration argument is over.
	Sorry.
	It's okay, but I'm just saying, who is David Bull and what is he representing?
	And he then goes on to double down on this.
	You know, having got the opportunity to say it early on, he then doubles down on GB News later in the evening.
	We are an island of immigrants.
	Oh, shut up.
	Right.
	Now, I remember that that was a Labour MP's Home Secretary under Blair that first argued that we're an island of immigrants.
	I mean, it's one of the things I've been working on for a while, a potential book that eventually will come out towards the end of the year, that flags not only the genetic code through DNA, but actually the historical numbers coming into this country, the emigration that went on.
	So this is palpably untrue.
	The idea that we're an island of immigrants only started to become conceptually true is when we had large numbers coming in after 55. 52 to 55 was the starting point.
	Even then, that was 1-2% of the population.
	Absolutely.
	So small.
	Like, it really is until the late 90s where the numbers start ramping up.
	Even this here, this whole, oh, you're an island of immigrants, therefore you must have immigration.
	It doesn't matter, regardless of what the history is.
	Because also it's like, there's this idea that, well, that's historically who we've been, so it must continue, even though it's not true.
	And then it becomes, well, you have to have it to atone for the empire.
	Okay, does Ireland have to have it?
	Does Sweden have to have it?
	Ultimately, it's all nonsense.
	It's just nonsense, nonsense.
	We want this to happen to you.
	And we will concoct whatever irrational reason we can muster.
	And notice they keep moving from reason to reason where you're like, that's not true, that's not true.
	Okay, I've got another one.
	It's like, no, no, no.
	Why are we having this conversation?
	You just want to take what's ours for someone else.
	We're not having it.
	The answer's no.
	Yeah, and what this is showing is not only just the discussions of the background of where it all comes from, the philosophical and practical issues about why this is wrong, but it's showing him to be, as you say, in one way, very much a Labour person with the island of immigrants, one way a David Kammerite, you know, with a lifeblood.
	And you're asking yourself, who is this man?
	I'll whip through a couple of these.
	Nine-year-olds should be taught what it means to be LGBT in school.
	So the argument on this is he's posting the headlines, so maybe he doesn't endorse this.
	Maybe he's alerting people.
	Okay, possibly.
	If you scroll down the list, there's a thread here that LGBT armed forces ball in Manchester.
	LGBT is a communist method to try and create a constituency that can attack the majority heterosexual community.
	Expressly by the people who designed the term LGBT.
	Yeah, there I am, David Cameron.
	I'm proud to legacy of LGBT rights.
	Now, you know, every one of us would turn around and say, this is perfectly fine to have the same rights as an equal individual.
	I've campaigned.
	I've done exactly the same sort of things.
	But the ideology.
	Even then, I'm not even sure if I agree.
	I'm not even sure if I'm for gay marriage, to be honest.
	But we can have the argument that they're still human beings and we don't have an issue with them being together.
	I'm not suggesting any persecution or anything.
	But there are certain institutions that are important for reasons that are...
	Marriage is there for children.
	It's important for the children.
	So to be like, oh, well, gay people want to get married, it's like, yeah, but they can't have children.
	It's not really for them.
	And I'm not saying anything should happen to them or anything like that.
	I'm not saying I'm even committed to this.
	But there's an argument to be had there and discussion to be had about it being not just for you.
	It's for others.
	Yeah, and I'm on the view that, obviously, with children, you know, I've seen my own children, I don't think much of anything to talk about sex or sexuality should really be taught about them at primary school level.
	I'm perfectly happy to bring in sex education when they're slightly older, particularly as, you know, my daughter, you know, 12, came of shock when the natural bodily functions changed for her, and it's like, all of that, you then start to understand they're becoming adults, rather than the little people that they are.
	I don't want indoctrination.
	And yet, David seems to be happy to have this level of questioning coming in, and others have pointed out exactly what he is on this.
	sex education, we need Twitter silence, all of this.
	German's chancellor has made a break.
	On refugees, Chernus Chancellor is brave, decisive, and right.
	Oh, right.
	So, Merkel, bringing in millions of foreigners to be...
	I mean, look at this.
	Inclusive sex ed is important and must be compulsory.
	I don't agree with that at all.
	I'm actually getting to the point where I don't really want sex education in schools.
	That's, I think, the parents' responsibility, frankly.
	And I don't really trust some lefty teacher not to try and pervert my children.
	Well, this is the element about trust in there and how we know and whether we should have rights as parents to at least understand what the curriculum is and how far they're going on there.
	Sorry, sorry, just one blow.
	We need Twitter to silence LGBT hate.
	Yes.
	All right, so we're just open for censorship now.
	Homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia of no place online says a radical leftist.
	That's what a radical leftist says.
	Exactly, so what we have here Radical leftist ideology on all the others, and supporting Merkel's monumental madness of mass immigration into Germany.
	This is crazy!
	So you now have that, and they turn around to us and say, you're just trying to bring reform down.
	You're just criticising reform for reform's sake.
	No, I'm criticising the individuals at the charge who are supposed to advocate your policies.
	And if this is what they believe in, where's the trust?
	This is the total destruction of reform's credibility as a right-wing party.
	This is not right-wing.
	This is not conservative.
	This is not something I could ever vote for.
	This is everything that drove us away from the conventional party.
	This is why the Conservatives are dying, as you pointed out.
	This is why Labour are awful.
	This is why the Lib Dems are irrelevant.
	If you want to be exactly the same as Labour, Lib Dems, Green and the Conservatives, do this and join them.
	You know, be that party, but don't be something that the people are crying out for something totally different.
	And I would say, okay...
	This is David.
	He's just been brought in last minute.
	He's only, as you say, Carl, one of the few individuals that could possibly be used in that role.
	Sorry.
	Has his own independent mind to be able to undertake the functions of being a membership committee chairman.
	So, is it just him?
	And then you have this from Nigel.
	The weakening.
	How would you define a Welsh person?
	Someone who's lived there for five to ten years.
	Can we listen to this?
	You say that you would like to give priority to people from Wales for housing.
	How would you define a Welsh person?
	Well, it's a very fair question from your channel.
	We hadn't proposed the Welsh language test.
	No, look, it's got to be somebody who's lived...
	And if someone's done that for a five or ten year period, then I think they've every right to say that they're fully part of the Welsh community.
	So there are a couple of things on this, right?
	She didn't ask, what does it take to be a part of the Welsh community?
	No.
	You know, like, your dog will be part of the Welsh community.
	That doesn't make it Welsh, right?
	So he's been slippery there.
	But really what she's saying is, okay, well, what is a Welshman?
	How do you define them?
	And Farage is just, well, if they've lived there five, ten years, they've followed the law, so no criminal record, and paid taxes.
	So if you're disabled, you don't have a job, you're not Welsh.
	If you committed a crime, if you've, you know, tax fraud or something, you're not Welsh.
	Or if you leave Wales for a substantive period of time, you're no longer Welsh.
	Welsh can be criminals too.
	But like, if you...
	If you commit a crime, you cease to be Welsh.
	Yeah, but you move to England...
	You're not Welsh anymore.
	You can't come back.
	Sorry.
	I'm therefore Welsh because I spent three years at university in Aberystwyth.
	Then I lived in Colwyn Bay in Clandidna for three years.
	They weren't joined together.
	It was three years and three years.
	You're as Welsh as they can.
	I am Welsh!
	It's nonsense.
	Posterous.
	My friend living in Japan for five years who's paid taxes has not just become Japanese.
	He's absolutely Japanese.
	But suddenly you're going to define that.
	How would you define an English person?
	Someone who's lived there for five to ten years.
	Exactly.
	How would you define someone who's a Scots person?
	Someone who's lived there for five to ten years.
	The Boris wave.
	Yeah.
	English.
	That's right.
	And so this means that basically there are no English expats in Spain, right?
	No, no, they're all Spanish now.
	That's right.
	They're all Spanish.
	They're not expats.
	That's right.
	Exactly.
	They're not expats.
	The answer, of course, is how do you define a Welsh person?
	Someone with Welsh ancestry is what a Welsh person is.
	Yeah, and not even here.
	He's just said someone who's lived there for five to ten years.
	If you're an illegal asylum seeker who's lived there for five to ten years and never been caught, if you don't have indefinite leave to remain and a British passport, you are now Welsh as well.
	This shows the nonsense of politics.
	You don't need an English test to be in England either, by the way.
	You know, that's it.
	It is showing him for the weaknesses in intellectual capability of running the argument for pro-patriotic political politics.
	Yes, yes.
	This is Sadiq Khan's globo-homo definition of open borders, infinite migrants.
	That's the same that Nigel Farage has adopted here.
	This is preposterous.
	So now on immigration, you're the lifeblood.
	You only have to be there five to 10 years.
	And you're there for someone who is capable of then So if someone comes here in Britain for five to ten years, in any way, shape, or form, you're now that nationality and therefore capable of receiving housing.
	It's literally magic soil theory.
	Yeah, that's it.
	But is that a loan?
	No.
	This was me.
	I think...
	Well, I mean, this connects quite well with it, really.
	Yeah, it connects.
	It connects.
	Because if, like, Nigel Farage, if a million people can live in, can be brought from...
	And it's like, okay, well then they would become just as Welsh, even though there are 3 million Welsh and 41 million Afghans.
	And then this ties nicely into this, doesn't it?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I mean, this is then going on to the next individual.
	Richard Tice is an MP.
	As we said, could he have been the chairman?
	He was once the vice chairman under Ben Habib.
	We're talking about immigration again.
	So we've now looked at different policies, ranged from David Bull.
	We've now seen the immigration argument of what is a citizen of this country from Nigel Farage in a recent interview.
	And then we're talking about, are you concerned that there will be a minority British government?
	And Richard Tice says it's a long way off.
	I'll be long gone.
	I'll be long gone.
	Richard Tice has three kids.
	I don't give two flying whatever's about what's going to happen to my country.
	I'll be long gone, but please keep me in as an MP.
	I just like the idea of being able to flaunt myself with those two letters after my name.
	It can go down in history on Wikipedia that I was an MP.
	I'll be long gone.
	And my children won't suffer because they're in the United Arab Emirates.
	Yes.
	I mean, everyone around them will be Welsh or English because they'll have been here for five or ten years.
	So I don't know what your objection is, you bigot.
	Yes.
	And so what we've got, he doesn't bear any responsibility for his behavior.
	And this is going to the issue of trust.
	Now, do we trust them when we say that they want to be capable of managing the big issues politically in this country, of which one of those big issues is how do you manage immigration, the large numbers coming into it, the criminality, the cost, the economic issues and the social changes that are happening, in a way that preserves the rights of this nation and also ensures that we don't go under?
	And the trust issue is there.
	What are we looking at here?
	We're not looking at a right-wing party.
	We're not looking at a party that cares about the British people at all.
	Oh, well, I'll wait for a couple because I'm looking at the time and there's far few.
	But I then said, okay, so we've now looked at, you know, schools, education, sexuality, kind of the family concept, what is a nationality, immigration.
	Then one of the big issues at the moment is the burqa and he's now the new chairman and David, again, straight away out of that.
	I've replaced Zia Youssef who said I didn't really want to ban the burqa, but now I said I don't.
	Well, you said he called it dumb.
	He said it was dumb, dumb, da-da-dum.
	He said, like, that was dumb.
	And then he came back and said, I'm phlegmatic about it.
	It's all right.
	It'll be fine.
	But David Bull goes back and says, no, we shouldn't.
	So he's got the exact same opinion as Zia Yusuf on the burqa.
	Zia Yusuf on that.
	No to banning the burqa.
	So this is interesting because I don't think, well, one, the burqa ban wouldn't work.
	And it doesn't matter, because if the demographics change, they'll just simply re-implement it.
	But also, for David's opinion to be, no, we're not banning it, speaks in contradiction to his own stated opinion of forced assimilation.
	Of integration.
	It's like, okay, well, if you're an integrationist, why aren't you making them look and appear as British as you can?
	I completely missed that.
	Yeah, no, I did.
	So, again, it goes to that juxtaposition of who he actually is.
	Is he just saying these lines?
	Because that's genuinely what he believes.
	And that's what I think he is genuinely being who he is.
	A Cameronite, a Blairite, but nothing to do with a genuine pro-patriotic party.
	No, they're an international liberal party.
	They're a globalist party.
	So we've now gone through a number of three or four different policy issues, and of course Islam now steps into one.
	Faraj suspends a reform candidate for claiming Islam is a false religion.
	Well, every Christian, as World by Wolf points out, it has in our religious tenets, by definition, believes Islam is a false religion.
	But every religion!
	Jew believes every other religion is Christ.
	So therefore, if you believe in freedom of religion, which is another political issue, another conceptual idea of what conservatism should be about, a modern pro-conservative party, should be about accepting.
	You know, the Christian concepts and allowing them to be able to believe in what Christianity is without receiving the big hand of your political leader firing you for it.
	The normative characteristics of the British people should allow to assert an affirmative vision of what they are.
	But also, if she'd said Buddhism is a false religion, would Farage have kicked her out?
	Probably not.
	I don't think you'd have cared.
	No.
	Which means that Islam has a...
	If you're not allowed to say Islam is a false religion, but you won't get kicked out saying Christianity is a false religion, then it's an Islamic party.
	And I'm just finding this quite bizarre, you know, in that they...
	None...
	Who...
	Yeah, they all agree with it.
	It's exactly the same.
	And the press are giving Farage an easy ride.
	But the cultists within Farage are believing it.
	And he says many Britons are converting to Islam.
	This is, as he was, the chairman of Reform UK is a Muslim born in Scotland with Sri Lankan origins.
	Islam is eating up the UK inch by inch.
	And Farage goes on why Islam is getting stronger.
	I don't know if we've got time to play.
	Let's try it.
	Let's go through.
	This Archbishop is turning people away from religion, certainly from the Church of England, in their droves.
	Many are just giving up on religion completely.
	A lot of people are converting to Islam, aren't they?
	Have you noticed that as well?
	Yes, there is a bit of a trend with that.
	Islam's a very complicated one because there are clearly sects that are compatible and we respect equally.
	Because Islam doesn't have a proper head, there are elements of it that are very worrying and very scary.
	Wow.
	I don't know if a lot of people are converting to Islam, though.
	I don't believe that.
	I don't believe that they are.
	Unless you're being forced to imprison, but, you know.
	Well, yeah.
	Let's see if you can survive like Tommy Robinson, otherwise you convert.
	But what I wanted to look at this is there are sects that are okay, and there are sects that are not okay.
	In the safer time, I'm afraid we're going to have to push on.
	So, you know, again, I'm pointing out the issues of here, lack of understanding of a bigger issue.
	Lack of courage.
	Lack of courage.
	Issues of chilling warning over Muslim population.
	We'll politically alienate.
	We will lose.
	We will lose.
	Completely convinced that Islam will just crush us.
	That's right.
	We just can't fight back.
	Okay.
	So giving Islam a privileged position over all other religions and those who are atheists and agnostics.
	The best we can hope for is a managed orderly surrender.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	That's really what Churchill said, didn't he, when Hitler was crossing over.
	Okay.
	Maybe I'm being a bit sad on this, but I just found this particularly funny.
	I mean, I thought the beard was particularly well kept.
	To be honest, looking at it, and it really did blend in with the tie.
	But, you know, this is what people are beginning to think about Faraj.
	They're beginning to see him because he is not saying things that enables people to say, hang on a minute, I thought you were of the patriotic right and you're not recognising some of the big issues.
	No, he's not.
	He's a liberal.
	I come across, I think, is that...
	That's the one there.
	Sorry, I'm...
	He then talks about economically.
	I was going to final points about it.
	He talks about population explosion is leading to the declining living standards.
	So his answer to that is an employer immigration tax.
	Again, not dealing with the issue.
	Let's hit the businesses that he says are struggling to be able to sustain itself.
	So economically, he is not of the right anymore.
	We've got this, who banged on about the influence of the World Economic Forum, and yet we do know that Basim Haider has got a major influence behind the scenes with Zia Yusuf, who brought him in, and they're both members of the World Economic Forum.
	Nigel talks about the elites in charge, and yet he's bringing them in.
	And I think I'm just going to finish on this point, on all the different policies.
	Faraj on Gaza, you know, a wonderful thriving place with well-paid jobs, casinos, nightlife, it seems like very appealing to me on there.
	He's an economic and social liberal.
	I mean, irrespective of the rights of the Gaza End, all I see Gaza is, is a nice place to have a party.
	It needs to be developed like real estate.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And so this isn't now politics, all the different policies that we've looked at, the people in charge of reform.
	They've imploded, and I think you're rightly to point out.
	They've just completely lost all their credibility, frankly.
	Matthew says, would you give up the NHS to resurrect the British Empire?
	Has the British Empire sacrificed for universal healthcare?
	I personally don't desire the return of Empire.
	But I also don't like the fact that it's an international health service.
	So, what are you going to do?
	And Glee says, so reforms new chairman.
	Meet the new boss somehow more insufferable than the old boss.
	And the thing is, he's not even the new boss.
	Zia Yusuf is still going to be hand-puppeting everything anyway.
	So, just mad.
	Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
	Baron Von Warhawk says, Mexico had California for 27 years.
	America has had it for 175.
	This is literally just Gibbs.
	Yeah, because that's the important thing.
	California had nothing when the Mexicans had it, and now it's something.
	They're like, oh, this is our land.
	Oh, piss off.
	Let's go to the comment.
	Good afternoon.
	I'm here in Branson, Missouri, and as Carl pointed out, we Americans take our This is our Long Range Reconnaissance Association meeting that we have every year here in Branson, Missouri.
	I'll send you more videos.
	Please do.
	I'm interested to see what else goes.
	Let's go to the next one.
	A quick relevant history.
	Before 1940 the mostly agrarian frontier state of Washington did not produce a single ounce of aluminum.
	In 1943, the newly completed Grand Coulee Dam on the Columbia River, still the largest in North America, provided the state with tons of cheap electricity for industry.
	Heavy wartime emphasis was placed on building up aluminum refining in the state.
	By the end of 1943, Washington made up one-third of the United States' total aluminum production.
	Today, they're mostly all closed.
	Go figure.
	I want to do that exact walk.
	It looks amazing.
	I was going to say, it looks cool, doesn't it?
	Like an aluminium production.
	What are you talking about?
	There's a big footnote.
	Let's go to the next one.
	He looks a bit silvery.
	On a scale from one to ten, my friend, you're...
	In lack of other words, I'd say you're...
	You are...
	Oh, God.
	A piece of hackney, Diane Abbott there.
	Oh, God, my degree from Cambridge Oxford.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm not going to go...
	This is just a decline, man.
	Absolute decline.
	Fine.
	Also uses slavery to dig out gold, and the whole resolution of the movie is they achieve freedom by freeing themselves from Mexico and becoming American.
	Yeah, well, that's what Hollywood used to think.
	And then, well, Los Angeles became 50% Mexican.
	And now, things are different.
	Someone online says, I say we split the state into California and Jefferson and then wall off California and kick them out of the Union.
	No, no, no.
	I'm sick of this retreat.
	Denaturalize every Mexican in California and then deport.
	Detain, denaturalize, deport.
	Advance, no quarter.
	Exactly.
	Stop giving things up.
	You've got to start taking things.
	Start taking some Mexican towns on the border.
	Screw those people.
	Jimbo says, do any of these full-time Mexican rioters have jobs to go to?
	I mean, like you were pointing out, they're hardly Mexico's finest, right?
	Remarkably fat.
	Arizona Desert Rat says, if the name of the city is Spanish, it was colonized.
	Great point, actually.
	Exactly correct.
	I'm so frustrated by this.
	We Mexicans were here first, and they weren't.
	You were colonists just like the rest of us, so shut up.
	Charlie says, it should be noted that the Irish government is currently beyond repair.
	Oh.
	What does sovereignty mean?
	Very backwards.
	We've got it after all that time, and now we don't want it.
	Just giving in.
	Giving in.
	They're like, nah, the English deserve to rule Ireland.
	Says the current Prime Minister.
	It was Leo Vadaka.
	Charlie says, Stephen, the PSNI have always dealt with trouble in Northern Ireland with a heavy hand.
	I've no doubt that they have.
	I'm not saying they haven't on there, but it just is over-heavy-handed if you're looking at it on a kind of rational way.
	They should be interfacing with the community.
	Absolutely.
	They should be sat down and going, okay, what's the problem?
	What can we do?
	Here's a suggestion.
	But they haven't done that at all.
	Sorry, am I missing something here?
	Yeah, no.
	Base Ape says, I haven't seen the Irish this angry since you guys hid all their potatoes.
	Look, man, I looked into the Irish potato famine.
	You know what the problem was?
	It was the Whigs.
	So at the time, when it began, there was a Conservative government, and they were like, okay, we'll just import a load of food.
	And then the Whigs took over.
	And the Whigs were like, the free market will save this.
	And so they stopped the importation of the food, and so obviously people started starving, and they're millions.
	And everyone's like, what are you doing?
	And the Whigs were like, listen, man.
	The market's going to fix this.
	It's like, are you mad?
	You know, like the Conservatives at the time were just like, you know, we're just bringing food.
	There's a problem.
	We can fix it.
	When you said wigs, I thought David Bull and reform were getting in again.
	Well, yeah.
	It's just, honestly, I just, everything the Liberals have ever done, apart from the abolition of slavery, has been bad.
	And everything the Tories have ever done has also been bad.
	Well, no, I mean, like, the Conservatives wanted to bring food in, because obviously there's a famine, so that was a sensible policy.
	You know, the Conservatives, their problem isn't necessarily being bad, it's being profoundly weak to the Whigs, to the Liberals, and not rejecting them.
	But anyway, Russian says, Yeah, that's the thing.
	The total destruction of reform's own credibility.
	It's like, no, no, we are not for the British people.
	We are for the international liberal order.
	That's what they're saying.
	And it's like, okay, well, that's not what I'm for.
	I'm totally against that, in fact.
	James says, the question, why are we debating this, is an extremely important one.
	Homath put it very well the other day.
	You vote and debate about things like economic policy, tax rises, and local planning matters.
	You do not vote and debate on things like sterilizing children, ethnic replacement, or cancelling freedom of speech.
	Exactly true.
	The fact that we are permitting the discussion is allowing them to drive the dialectic in the way that they want.
	No, sorry, that's not up for debate, actually.
	Dirty Belt says, I have said this before and I will say it again.
	Reform are simply neo-Tories.
	Unless there is some colossal shake-up, then expect nothing based from them.
	One must either discard liberalism and become a nativist, or become atomized and undone by it.
	This is true.
	And anyone who were in reform who wasn't in the O-Tory didn't get past the selection stage or was soundly ejected.
	Absolutely.
	And I totally agree.
	In fact, Chance here points out, reform isn't it.
	Go for something else, whatever Rupert Lowe does or whoever else.
	Rupert Lowe just came out in direct contradiction and was like, no, the British people are the lifeblood of Britain, which, again, not a controversial statement.
	Something that shouldn't really need to be said, and yet this was a very important statement for right-wing politics in this country, for some reason.
	Unbelievable.
	Mr. Flipal says, we have to stick behind reform because the only chance we'll get to hurt the Uniparty, which has caused so much harm.
	First time in my lifetime that this has looked possible.
	Right.
	I understand the motive for this.
	The problem is...
	If it walks like the Uniparty and talks like the Uniparty, it's no better.
	Farage, Tice, Youssef, and Bull are all globalist libs.
	That's just all they are.
	They're part of the Uniparty, man.
	I wanted Farage to be pretending.
	I'm kind of a centrist, but actually hardcore to the right.
	I was kind of hoping he was high level.
	He wasn't.
	He genuinely believes this.
	This is what he is.
	He's a part of the establishment.
	Yeah, and I think I'm saying I kept quiet for such a long time about this and my own views in the hope that, you know, that Ken pretends that he would build it with people around him.
	And once he started getting rid of Rupert and others before him, then you realize that we were ending up where we are now, which is exactly the same sort of people.
	The people are going to be let down upon when they get in power and nothing changes.
	Well, as I understand it, Rupert Lone and Ben Habib are going to do something and whatever it is, it's got to be better than the alternatives.
	And just to finish, Sam says, Carl, I saw the Death of Man documentary yesterday.
	I think you should do more.
	Keep up all the good work you and the gents do at Low Seas.
	Well, thank you very much.
	It was a lot of work, a lot of reading, a lot of research, and a lot of work recording it as well, because as you'll notice, I was out everywhere.
	But it was very fun to do, and we did it ages ago.
	I'm glad it's finally been published.
	But we will indeed have more on the way.
	Sorry, that clock's different to that clock, so I'm going to go by this clock.
	Hector says, So, Carl, I've learned that I can become Welsh in just five years and Nigel will have my back.
	Hello, neighbour.
	I'm not Welsh.
	Well, I'm half Welsh.
	I don't live in Wales.
	I'm in Wales, right?
	If Farage had said, well, to be Welsh you have to own at least two sheep, that'd be more reasonable.
	That makes most Welsh people not actually Welsh, right?
	They're getting on someone else's sheep.
	My cousin's coming for you now, that's it.
	But this is a good one, right?
	What we see in reform is the corrupting nature of the one ring called liberalism.
	We begged Farage to cast it into the fires and he whispered back, no.
	And that's true.
	You know, Nigel, all you have to do is situate yourself inside the paradigm of the British people and say, no, this is for us, you know, we're not hateful, but Farage just could not bear to be called a racist.
	It's in his soul.
	He's really, like, deeply moved when they called me a name.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, God, I don't have their approval.
	No, of course you don't.
	What did you think you were going to do?
	And so, ah, it's just...
	Whatever comes next, it just has to be radical at this point.
	Sigilstone says, maybe we need to surprise Farage on the street with impromptu group prayer and see if he instinctively runs towards Mecca.
	It's so pathetic as well.
	This pathetic attitude of, oh, we have to bend the knee to Islam.
	It's like, no, we don't.
	Like, Americans have a totally disproportionate view of how many Muslims are in Britain.
	Something like 6.5 to 7% of the country.
	Americans think it's like 20 or 30% because of the complete weakness that we demonstrate in the face of this foreign religion.
	It's just pathetic.
	Anyway.
	Thank you so much for joining us, folks.
	Go and watch The Death of Manx.
	Like I said, I worked really hard on it, so I want you to enjoy it.
	And leave comments on there as well, because I'm obviously checking the comments, because I want to know what you think about it.

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