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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Tuesday, the 22nd of April, 2025.
I'm joined by Josh and Luca, and today we're going to be talking about how every party in British politics turns into a weak, centrist, diverse, multiculti civ-nap party, and how the police knew about the grooming gangs and were complicit in the cover-up of the grooming gangs.
Multiple whistleblowers have come out about this.
And we are going to then talk about the death of the Pope.
Very cheery.
Death, gloom and destruction today.
By the way, there's no future.
All the kids are getting raped and the Pope's just died.
The two are not a correlation in any way.
Not this time.
Is it a good or bad omen that the Pope died on Easter Monday?
Just before we get on to it.
I mean, I'm not Catholic, but I think it could be seen as a kind of a vision of renewal.
Are you a Christian?
No, I'm a stuffy, dry, boring atheist.
I know, it's terrible.
And I have to explain to people, look, I'm an atheist, but I am also a Protestant.
I am also an Englishman.
Yeah, exactly.
I'd see it as the World Cup.
I don't normally follow football, but when England's playing, when the Protestants are in conflict with the Catholics, I know which side I'm taking.
Exactly, yeah, totally.
Anyway, let's crack on.
So, reform promised to get rid of diversity, equity and inclusion in government, but they never said anything about their own party.
Here is Ben Habib, of course axed in the back, you know, party favourite but no more, on BBC talking about how they're going to get rid of it.
And here is the official reform account with the slop siren and everything saying that they're going to scrap diversity, equity and inclusion.
However... The spirit of it lives on.
Not in, you know, law necessarily, but in Nigel Farage.
God, why promise us this sort of stuff if you're just going to be like, yeah, okay, but we are actually going to continue it.
Not necessarily for the government, but they are embodying the principles of it in their own party.
Oh, thank God.
Which is so much better.
Spirit of DEI.
If anything, they're embodying it more all-encompassingly.
More organically than the Labour Party.
What this has done is...
Filling that gap in the marketplace of parties that don't pander to DEI.
So what we essentially have now in British politics is you can pick the colour of which anti-nativist party you can vote for.
You can either get green, red, yellow, blue, and now teal.
Teal is the worst colour as well.
It is.
It's a horrible, ghastly colour.
Ugly colour.
Definitely don't have your walls painted.
If you're a big fan of teal, I'm really sorry.
In a bathroom at most, maybe.
I'm glad I chose the other shirt today.
I'm not wearing teal.
That's a little bit of teal colours, actually.
It's kind of aqua green, I don't know.
The greeniness, I'll let you off.
It's a nice tie, though.
You know what?
My wife hates it, that's why I'm wearing it.
I would love to get to that level of petty.
It's not necessarily petty.
It's just like, you know, if my wife and the oldest daughter don't like it, then I'm pretty sure it's a good tie.
So, they've got to the point of their crusade for DEI within their party itself that the Guardian have actually written a puff piece about them.
What?! I wanted to go over this article because it's very amusing to me.
It's wonderful to have my suspicions revealed.
If you're both there on election night, remember when I was saying how I'm not too sure about reform and how I'm already regretting my vote on the night?
I mean, that aged very well, didn't it?
So, here is Nigel.
He says, That's his name, I presume.
Is a brave individual who stands up for British values and common sense.
May I remind you that the term British values has increased...
It was created by Tony Blair, yeah.
It has, yeah.
Beforehand, of course, we knew that you couldn't have British values without being British because we looked at the world and we saw that they weren't British and we saw that as a problem.
And we tried to colonise them and introduce them into how to be civilised, but alas, they didn't like that.
Well, it was a descriptive term, wasn't it?
British values was the values of the British, not a doctrinal prescription that should be enforced on people everywhere else.
At the minute, we've sort of got this 1984-esque thing of, no, we've always had British values.
You know, Britain's always been a nation of values.
We've always assessed people based on the content of their character because, of course, you know, Britain was founded by Martin Luther King.
Britain has always been a hive mind collective that has always agreed on everything ever.
And, you know, the geographical location of the British Isles, Charles I, Cromwell.
Both agreed on, you know, what British values were.
British values just happen to harmonise with Rawlsian liberalism as well.
They just happen to be exactly the same thing.
They're the worst kind of liberalism.
I can't even say it, it's so disgusting.
They just happen to correspond with the ingredients that lead to our annihilation.
No biggie.
So, on to the article itself.
Here it is, from The Guardian.
I've been assaulted, reforms minority ethnic candidate.
Seeking local election wins.
I'll tell you what, just a quick thing.
If I ever get a good write-up in The Guardian, a positive blowing right-up in The Guardian, just take me out of the back and shoot me.
How has it come to this?
I don't know, but it's very interesting.
So I'm going to skip the byline and just go straight to reading this.
So stop me if you find any interesting points.
So it says, I've been assaulted.
I regularly get verbal abuse.
I get death threats one time, but until the people come to their senses, I will stand," said Raj Forhad, a UK
For some reason, I'm reading this in broken English as well.
I'm just so used to it.
The 43-year-old, who owns a software business, thankfully it's not a call-in centre, is part of a growing group in politics, British voters from minority ethnic backgrounds who campaign for Nigel Farage's party.
Growing group in politics.
That's interesting, isn't it?
Yeah, but this is the typical...
Ah, it's the fastest-growing thing.
It's grown from three to seven.
You know, 700% growth or whatever it is.
Yeah, well, if a tumour is the fastest growing thing in my body, it doesn't mean it's good.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
And it carries on to say, recent research has found reform tends to poll best in areas with a large white population.
I wonder why.
Maybe because the white population is disenfranchised by electoral politics.
And desperate to have a party to turn to.
And Nigel Farage sold himself as a nativist candidate.
Which he's not.
Yeah, no, he's not.
Polling indicates the party, which is criticised by anti-racism campaigners, had a vote share of 3% amongst minority ethnic voters compared with 16% amongst white voters.
So, what?
So the English are looking for representation.
That's it.
It's our country.
We're allowed to.
However, the party fielded 17 candidates from ethnic minorities in 2024 in the general election.
Some insiders regarded the ability to win over voters traditionally loyal to Labour, including black and Asian people in big cities, as pivotal to it.
Now, I disagree with this.
Yeah, that's crazy.
There are enough English people in England to win an election.
By a long way.
Easily. Still 75% English.
One of the things that the Scots always complained about in the run-up to their independence referendum is that, well, because England has more seats in Parliament and they always vote Tory, we always have a Tory government because we don't want that.
So within that argumentation is a legitimate point that England can determine the fate of elections, and England is still English for now.
And so we can win an election on an entirely native vote if we wanted to.
Yes. And it's important to remember that in the last election only 59% of people voted, I think it was.
So nearly half the country is just like, I'm not going to vote for any of this.
So okay, we'll give them something to vote for then.
Yeah, people will be amazed at how much a turnout can change if something appealing is on the ballot.
I really think so, yeah.
Yeah, I think that part of the reason that people are so disenfranchised and dispassionate, why you get votes between like 59% and maybe 68% on a higher, that's the sort of upper bound in the past.
I think that was the Brexit vote.
It was, yeah.
But normally it's about 62%, which is still 38%.
People are just like, screw.
Yeah, and when it's the one time every five years that you can actually have a say in how things are run, I think that that's a massive failure.
Also, because of the record voter turnout that, of course, we had during the Brexit referendum, the thing that made those people come out and vote during that referendum in the first place, all those underlying problems that they thought they were going to be able to get on top of, they're all still there.
Not a single issue has been addressed yet.
And so just if you're campaigning on those issues, you will bring those people back out again.
I said this a while ago.
I think people in the South West would actually really respond to a kind of pro-Brexit business-y.
Because a lot of them are like, you know, business owners and independent.
Not wealthy, but well-to-do middle-class people.
But at the moment, they're voting Lib Dem because they just don't know what else to do.
But it's like, okay, well, go hard tax relief.
Go hard incentive for investment and things like this.
And I think you could win these people.
But anyway, the point being, Brexit was an incredibly nativist phenomenon.
And everyone knew that that was the case.
And yet, here we are.
Nine years later, nothing's happened.
We still don't have a nativist party.
How is this happening?
Sorry, carry on.
So it carries on to say the local elections on the 1st of May represent a milestone for reform, which is also eyeing the Runcorn parliamentary by-election and mayoral elections on the same day.
Of course, Runcorn being the constituency where that Labour MP connected with one of his constituents.
Some really on-the-ground stuff there.
But some party activists are already looking ahead to 2026 when London's local elections take place.
Notice how they've not said a negative word, by the way.
That continues throughout the whole piece.
I would love this kind of neutral coverage from the press.
That'd be incredible.
It's amazing how this has changed.
Remember when, you know, Nigel Farage was far right in the worst thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it just goes to show that all of Nigel's hard work is beginning to pay off for it, isn't it?
He's finally getting what he wants, which is positive coverage from the Guardian.
And minorities in positions of authority.
I hope those dinner parties were worth it, Nigel.
So it carries on to say, blah blah blah blah blah.
This is a direct quote here.
We're putting the same effort into bringing over true Labour voters as we did in...
Bringing over Conservatives, London is the acid test, said Neville Watson, reforms only black branch chair.
The only one.
There's a bit of a only.
But they don't say anything negative beyond a very subtle thing.
Hino, I'm presuming is how that's pronounced, is an East London ward that will be voting on the 1st of May in Redbridge Council by-election, which Forhad, who's the Indian fellow I presume, is standing.
He stood in last year's general election as the candidate for Ilford South when he said he was attacked on the campaign trail for standing for reform, but not...
But did not report it to the police.
I wonder who attacked him there.
I don't think it would be the native British people attacking him.
There probably aren't that many around.
Honestly, as a side note on the constituency of Ilford, I've no idea to this day how Wes Streeting got elected for Ilford, given that he's the only Englishman in Ilford.
It's not going to last.
I covered this the other day.
It's undoubtedly an independent Muslim MP is going to win it next.
Wes Streeting's on borrowed time.
I think they voted Labour.
Purely for the free money.
I was tagging him on Twitter with this the other day.
It came out, like, Stats for Lefties posted a poll where he's going to get crushed in a ratio of 2 to 1 in the next election in Ilford South, and it's just like, you're just screwed.
What's it like, bro?
You have literally great replaced yourself.
So anyway, sorry, carry on.
I do enjoy that you bully MP on Twitter.
I ratioed Keir Starmer the other day on Easter.
I was like, oh, okay.
A little Easter egg for you.
Forhad came to the UK from Bangladesh in 2010.
What? The main reason I join Reform is because of the policies they have.
The contract they have with the people.
I don't know what contract that is to betray us.
The country on the NHS on immigration.
Oh, great.
The NHS.
Forhad, you're the immigration.
Yeah. I've got t-shirts longer than he's been in the country.
So do I, yeah.
He said, myself as an immigrant, the way illegal migrants are brought in this country, that's impacting everyone.
So this kind of rhetoric reminds me of when Bernie Sanders would go on and on and on.
Millionaires and billionaires.
Exactly. He was talking about the millionaires, and when he became a millionaire, he changed it to...
Billionaires. Same thing with immigration.
If you're a nativist, it's okay to talk about legal migration, but as soon as you're an immigrant, it's only the illegal migration.
If you talk about legal, that's too far.
This is one of the things I like about Ben Habib.
No, no, no.
It's all of it.
It's like, okay, great.
Finally, someone's on TV saying it.
So, it gets better than this.
Watson, who chairs Reforms Branch in Enfield, North London, says he firmly supports positive immigration that is managed, coordinated and thoughtfully timed.
Ah, this is Nigel Farage's net zero immigration.
One in, one out.
That was great.
So, we'll still get half a million in, as long as half a million leave.
So, I'm still going to be replaced, but just at the speed limit.
Cheers, Nigel.
The thing is, this sort of rhetoric would have...
Probably been the weathervane of where most of the country was at 30 years ago, but now people have reached such a boiling point of desperation, they're looking for something far more radical.
In the early 2000s, this is exactly the kind of rhetoric you'd expect to see.
When Nigel Farage was at his prime, you know what I mean?
Like, this is exactly it.
Wasted opportunity, really, isn't it?
So it carries on to say, it's about space, not race, the father of two said when asked how he reconciled his identity as the son of a Jamaican-born Windrush generation parent with perceptions of his party.
And he says, I have the values of my family who put so much in, have always stood for, hard work and aspiration.
Just a quick thing.
Okay, that's great.
And I appreciate the sort of decent sentiments here.
I agree.
Should be hard work, aspiration, blah, blah, blah.
We shouldn't be openly racially discriminating against people for the fun of it, blah, blah, blah, right?
But the thing is, things have just gone too far, right?
We're beyond the Boris wave now, and even normies are seeing, like, why are there so many foreigners here?
What are they doing here?
Where do they come from?
How do they get here?
So, like, these sort of old...
Like, classical liberal catechisms of the early 2000s.
Sorry, the time has just run out for these.
I understand why you want to hold these opinions, but things have just gone far too far.
Well, he goes a little bit off the deep end from...
Classical liberalism here.
It says a community activist with a background in social enterprise, youth work and send, which is like special needs education, things like that.
Watson personally supports economic reparations for the unimaginable wrong of slavery.
He said it had driven a deep-rooted and sometimes subconscious racism and left a deep indelible mark on the lives of people.
Now this is why ethnicity is important.
The lives of a people.
So it's driven a deep-rooted and subconscious racism.
On the lives of a people.
Which people?
The Jamaicans, apparently, because he's worried about this because he is ethnically Jamaican and therefore he stands to benefit, presumably.
It's funny how whenever the chips are down, people always side on their ethnicity.
It's almost like it's an intrinsic part of who we are or something.
So there's another amazing sleight of hand that goes on here.
It's like, listen, hello, fellow British people.
Don't we need to pay reparations for slavery?
So you need to pay reparations for slavery?
No, suddenly you're not one of us when you want reparations for slavery.
You're literally thinking the white people have to do that and the black people be the recipients of it.
I've also traced my family history and I know there are no slave owners.
No one got involved in the slave trade.
To be fair, as a Devonshire man, yours were probably abducted by Barbary pirates.
That's true, yeah.
And also, the way economics work...
They quite often concede trickle-down economics.
They say, well, everyone benefited from it.
Actually, no.
If people in your country are getting disproportionately richer relative to you, your relative purchasing power is actually lower than it would have been otherwise.
So it made domestic people poorer.
And so there's no argument there whatsoever.
On the plus side, I'm looking forward to receiving my reparations.
That's true.
Yeah. Give them to Carl.
So it carries on to say he was attracted to reform by Brexit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It talks about some other people.
There's Navtej Sangha, a former British Army bursar.
I mean, he served in the military, so I've got a bit more respect for him.
North London-based, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But it carries on just...
Saying lots of nice things, filling in some details, talking about, I'm a Muslim, I'm a Muslim, blah, blah, blah.
We're not racist.
I think everyone should be able to live together.
Everyone's going to be happy.
The Guardian is promoting reform at this point.
I know, yeah.
But it goes on to...
Basically outline their positions, outline how they're ethnic minorities and how it's okay to vote reform now, because they're honestly not racist, everyone.
They've got so many minorities.
I mean, that's true, though, isn't it, right?
They're not racist.
You know, The Guardian is right.
They're not a racist party.
I agree.
Nigel Farage is not a racist, and he is most offended when you call him a racist.
He's actually...
One of the things he's most insistent about in British politics is that he's not a racist.
Yeah. As to fixing the problems in the country, well, that's secondary.
Call him a swindler, a scoundrel, a betrayer, and it all washes off his back like water off a duck's back.
Call him a racist and see how he recoils.
Sorry. So, I'm not going to read any more of this because you get the gist.
They wrote a long puff piece about lots of minorities in reform.
And everyone's been picking up on the slavery reparations part.
Here's Leilani Dowling talking about it.
Here's Lawrence Fox talking about it.
It's a really fair thing to point out because as soon as that sort of subject gets injected into the discourse, suddenly there is a division saying, look, it's us and them.
It's like, oh, okay, right.
Well, most of politics is just resource extraction.
Once you realise that, it becomes pretty naked.
Here's Rupert Lowe as well, not missing out on opportunity to...
What total rot!
We all expect Labour, Lib Dem candidates to push this tripe, but it was certainly a surprise to read a reform chair calling for economic reparations to tackle a deep-rooted and sometimes subconscious racism.
This is morally bankrupt identity politics.
Yeah, I can't really disagree.
Yeah, they're not getting a penny of my money.
I just love it.
We must offer no grovelling apologies for our past.
To me, the British people have contributed comfortably more to the free world than anyone else.
It's a legacy we should be practising.
How is Rupert Lowe not in charge of everything?
I know, yeah.
This is the way you should be speaking in politics, generally.
Too much for Nigel, that.
Yeah, exactly.
Nigel, I know you're out, bro.
I'm taking the reparations.
Britain, good.
Out. Yeah.
Literally where we're at.
So, speaking of Nigel Farage, actually, you know how he's very proud of destroying the BNP?
Yes. Well, there's one BNP member he didn't actually crush.
Really? And it's this guy.
So this is that Bangladeshi national that we were reading about earlier.
So here is his Reform UK read-up.
He joined the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, or the BNP.
When he was younger.
So I posted about this on Twitter and a mutual of mine posted that Simpsons monkey paw where, you know, I'd like Nigel to allow the BMP in and the monkey paw curls and bam, we've got it.
Well done, James.
That was hilarious.
So... An actual Bangladeshi nationalist is now standing for UK Parliament.
He only moved here within the past 15 years.
Can we go back to Nigel Farage posting the article and being like, this fellow stands for British values.
It's like, right, so British values harmonised with Bangladeshi nationalist values.
How are they the same thing?
Nationalism for me, but not for thee.
But in what way are British values Bangladeshi values?
And if they're the same, then, like...
I mean, it suggests that there is no such thing as British values.
Carl, you haven't understood that acid attacks are a very important way of British people communicating their grievances with one another.
Shall you forfeit any right to call yourself a nationalist as well if you abandon the place that you're apparently a nationalist?
You're so nationalistic about it.
You love it so much.
You're so passionate that you left.
Well, I had to move to Britain for the money.
Gibbs. Well, the problem with Bangladesh now is there's no Bangladeshis there because they've all moved here.
So his love of the people...
No, no, no.
There's still like 183 million of them left.
I know, I'm being for serious.
There's no limit.
That part of the world, there's no shortage of people, is there?
So it carries on.
There was this clip of loads of people chanting in barely legible English, asking them to vote for him.
Headphone warning, it could be loud.
Hope you've adjusted the volume.
Vote for reform.
Vote for us.
Vote for us.
Vote for reform.
Vote for us.
Vote for our own.
Vote for life.
Vote for life.
This is probably his family.
These are probably people who are related to him.
I'm getting a very strong urge to hang up this cold call.
I'm just wondering, how long is it, do you think, off the back of this before Ash Sakaar joins reform?
I don't know.
I mean, what would stop her?
Right. I also like how it looks like they're outside of a corner shop, so they've just finished their shift, and they've gone out with a placard.
And I wonder if this is probably his family.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
And it's also worth mentioning...
This is just such a great image, isn't it?
It's like, vote reform for Bangladeshi nationals.
It's like, I don't know, man.
I think you've got an entire country for yourselves.
That's very true.
It's also worth mentioning as well, ever so quickly, they put out this video where they...
I'm going to mute it just for the sake of my insanity.
So they go off and list every minority that's in the party and say, we're not racist, we judge people based on the content of their character.
Aren't we wonderful?
Look at all these brown people we have.
Look at all these white women.
What are you talking about?
They're not diversity.
She's bisexual.
That looked like a crime picture.
But eventually they say, basically, diversity is our strength.
Isn't diversity wonderful?
Please vote for us minorities.
Please, please.
We're not desperate.
Love us.
You get the gist.
And then there was also the case of these Reform UK supporters, which people said were actors, supposedly.
I didn't look into the actor claim, but I saw lots of people saying it.
But they had lots of African drumming circles.
Campaigning for them back around the election time.
Leo's making a good point there, though.
Glastonbury is a horrifically white middle class.
It's also just horrific because the music is terrible.
Next reform rally, Notting Hill Carnival.
Is that where we're heading with this?
I wouldn't be surprised.
A few years ago, Jeremy Corbyn gave a speech at Glastonbury, which was, of course, really well received.
And it is funny that the only black people at Glastonbury are Farage supporters.
Well, I don't think they're at Glastonbury, but I think Leo was making a joke that only the people in the dinghy there were they were throwing around because refugees.
Yeah, of course.
Because basically to go to Glastonbury you've got to be very white and very middle class and willing to part with a lot of money to stand in a dirty field.
And by God, do they have massive walls to keep you out if you're not.
That's true.
They believe in borders when they're...
When there's a smaller scale version of a society.
I remember Corbyn's speech.
He was like, look, we need to paint on these walls, build bridges, not walls.
It's like...
Anyway, Karen.
And there are some other examples as well, of course.
There's this one as well.
I'm not going to play the audio because it's annoying, but random people in Nigel Farage masks and an African drumming circle for reform, which is a bit strange.
So traditionally bad.
They're so obviously paid, because they don't necessarily seem like organic, homegrown reform supporters to me.
They don't really seem to be that interested, do they?
And then, I'd be much remiss not to mention the fact that one old British tradition has been brought back.
It's a pre-Crimean War tradition.
By your waiter!
Yeah. Cash for commissions, that's been brought back.
So we abolished this after the Crimean War, when we struggled to beat the Russians, because...
Too many incompetent people bought their offices in the army, and clearly not learning this lesson from 1856.
Faraj brought in Zaya Yusuf, who, that's not his full name, his full name has Mohammed in.
Wonder why he dropped that one.
But yes, he paid £200,000 to reform, which in exchange was no way, you know, a bribe or anything.
But in exchange, he got the party chair position.
Really cheap.
200k is not that much.
Especially for a political party that's got to spend millions.
How much for the head of the party, Nigel?
Just saying.
Since everything's on the table to be sold, I mean, we may as well ask.
The crowdfunder.
But yes, you get the idea by now that reform has no principles.
It's just there to win elections now.
It's for diversity.
It's for a replacement.
It's for cash for the commissions.
It's for all of these things.
It's part of the problem and it needs to go just like the rest.
I mean, I don't even know what Nigel even wants to do when he becomes Prime Minister.
He's done it.
I think, honestly, I'm not even necessarily against that, but it's like, God, Nigel, wasting everyone's time.
Anyway, NXCO says, these reform converts don't hold the ideals of the core reform voters.
Reform isn't as right-wing as people think.
Reform isn't a nativist party, but we need one.
Yes, we do.
I wouldn't say reform is right-wing at all.
No, they're a liberal party.
Yeah, exactly.
That was the thing.
Any hopes that we had of a faction within reform helping it to foster that right wing spirit was taken out.
Even the sort of ghost of Thatcher that they've sort of revived within the party, they're not talking about taking an axe to the NHS and calling it a socialist abomination.
He wants to nationalise the steel now, doesn't he?
Oh.
I'm not against it, but that's weird for you, Nigel.
Soviet Commissar Nigel Farage.
I'm not even against it, but for the wrong reasons, right?
Nigel wants to do it as a political stunt.
I'm like, no, I want to do it because I don't want the Chinese owning England.
Anyway... Xenophobic reasons.
Anyway, some diggity says, I'm visiting England from America with my wife to see her family.
I'm currently walking the Avebury pilgrimage near Silisbury Hill.
That's not far from us, actually.
Yeah. You have a beautiful country with wonderful people.
Yes, we do.
You wouldn't know it from the towns, but literally five minutes out of a town and old England still lives.
I would recommend the pub in Avebury.
It's very good.
Oh, yeah.
There was a red line, isn't there?
I think so, yeah.
Good food, good pint.
It is excellent.
I hope the England that I've seen over the last couple of days can be preserved and enjoyed by future generations.
The land of my ancestors would be well preserved by the English.
That's very kind of you.
Thank you for the $40 as well.
That's quite a lot.
Hewitt says, Carl, fancy making Samson work Easter Monday and leaving at the mercy of our bank holiday rail services.
Shame on you.
Well, I was working too.
Like, you know, don't ever let it be said I don't leave from the front.
Yes, for some reason Nigel was like, look, there's a really crowded field over there.
I'm going to try and squeeze into it.
It's like, why?
But yeah, they've joined the Uniparty.
I haven't got any hopes.
You're actually right, though, that probably the Labour Party are, unironically, the most right-wing party in Britain at this point.
I did a segment titled that not too long ago.
Did you see yesterday they announced they were going to have a league table for the migrant groups who commit the most crime?
Yes! I've been calling for this for ages.
Why do the Chinese do it?
But this is, again, Nigel Farage would never even have a knockout round at the end of each month.
Whichever is at the top gets mass deported.
When I'm in charge, that's what's happening.
Eventually it's just the last demographic left and the wing is still good.
Believe me, when I'm done, it'll be sub-regional of the natives in the UK.
You're from Liverpool, back!
But the point being, that's a really right-wing thing to do.
You would never get that from Farage or the Tories.
They'd be like, oh no, I'd be called a racist.
Labour don't care.
Labour are like, we're the ones who knock, we're the ones who call you racist.
So we'll do as many racist things as we want.
I'm at the point now where the more I get called racist, the more cool I feel.
Yeah, I just...
You're racist.
I just don't care.
I just don't care.
The concern about racism is a purely liberal prejudice, and I'm just like, okay, well, so what?
Anyway. Thick Tasia says, do you think this infiltration into reform or corrosion from within?
No, I think it's just Nigel.
I think this is what Nigel is.
There's no one actually who's got any strings on Nigel at this point, really.
But he's the guy.
He's like, I'm Nigel Farage.
This is my huge fan club of 200,000 subscribers.
I can say and do what I want and he's becoming his authentic self and this is what he's always been.
In fact, if anything, Elon's pressure on him a few months back over the Tommy Robinson issue and the fact that Farage didn't cave on that issue goes to show just how much of an eye and grip.
Nigel has on exactly every minutia of the party's direction.
You can weather an attack from the world's richest man.
You're doing alright, aren't you?
And the world's most followed man.
The fact that Nigel Farage stood his ground is like, no, I'm not bending.
I hate Tommy Robinson.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, Nigel.
Anyway, let's move on, Samson.
So... There have recently been a number of whistleblowers from British police forces, local police forces around the country, who have come out and said, look, the police were complicit with the grooming gangs.
They knew, they had been a part of it, and in fact, we have police officers who have been arrested over historic involvement.
They're themselves actively part of grooming gangs.
So the idea that we can just be like, well, the police can police themselves on this, and Jess Phillips is like, okay, we'll just hand it off to the local branch, the local organizations to deal with it.
It's like, no, they'll be marking their own homework, and of course they will decide that, no, we did very little wrong.
So, for example, this is from not long ago, actually, April, 2nd of April, where...
Three police officers, former police officers now, have been arrested for historic being part of a grooming gang, historically.
What's really weird is they go completely unnamed in all of the coverage of this.
So in the BBC or, you know, the Mirror or wherever, like, their names are just...
And it's weird because they're all in their 50s and 60s.
So... My best guess at why they wouldn't be naming them is they're worried that they might be of a specific background that might reflect poorly.
Well, I mean, they're literally being investigated for, quote, historic child exploitation in regards to the grooming gangs.
So, yes.
I know it does happen with British people, but one would imagine that a British police officer that also stands to be held legally liable, there's enough self-interest alone in that sort of organisation where it at least strongly disincentivises it.
Whereas when it's another community, I can see it happening.
And this is in Rotherham as well.
That's true, yeah.
They just become men.
Not even men, just former South Yorkshire police officer.
This last one being arrested for raping a teenage girl in Rotherham in 2004.
Really interesting.
Anyway, so the thing with these historic charges is that they often don't go anywhere, especially when they're against the police.
A paradigm example of that is Halifax grooming gang, alleged grooming gang member, Amjad Ditter, who himself, I don't know if there's a picture of him in there actually, but there's
He was being prosecuted over sexual abuse between 2006 and 2009, and even though that's not exactly ancient history,
it was dropped anyway, because...
For some reason they decided, quote,"There's no realistic prospect of a conviction." He was charged in 2019, it went on for five years, and the Crown Prosecution Service just dropped it.
They've decided that there's no realistic prospect of a conviction, so the case has just been dropped.
So he's gotten away with it.
If you'd have asked me something like two years ago on the back of this sort of stuff, it's like, well, I'd say, well, it just all needs, you know, reforming.
But at this point, we're so past reform.
Root and stem, yeah.
Root and stem gutting.
Yeah, yeah.
And so the point being is that the local police forces in these areas were definitely complicit.
I mean, several police officers have been arrested and charged and...
Have their cases dropped because they just can't...
I mean, to be fair, there probably is very little evidence they can actually draw on.
So it is just accusatory.
But I'm personally going to decide that I think they're probably guilty.
Anyway, so...
It's not surprising, then, that various reviews are finding, oh, the police were very, very, very lax and weren't really interested in actually dealing with this problem.
There was a review recently that covered from 2004 to 2013 about Greater Manchester Police, and as the BBC tells us, it highlights apparent local authority indifference to the plight of hundreds of youngsters as victims of Asian men.
Yeah, well, I guess that if the police are part of the victimisers...
Why would we want to investigate?
This is our turf, bro.
Andy Burnham, the Greater Manchester Mayor, who's been the one good Labour mayor on this, and he's come out and called for disciplinary action to be taken against police officers and councils who failed in their duties.
Because, of course, no one's been punished for this.
No one has lost their jobs.
No one's gone to jail.
It's crazy how they just end up dropping the charges and it goes no further.
I imagine that's one of the few things Burnham can actually do as the mayor of Manchester.
And, like I said, he's been repeatedly raising this as well.
This is entirely to his credit.
Again, Labour more right-wing than anyone else.
Greater Manchester Police has apologised.
Oh, guys, they've apologised.
Oh, well, we've got to say, you know, it's all good now.
Just because a bunch of our police officers have been arrested for being part of child rape gangs.
They say, quote, things are handled very differently now.
So, oh, well.
There we go, they've learned their lesson.
The review, they say, focused on 111 cases in Rochdale and concluded that there was compelling evidence of widespread organized sexual exploitation of children.
This should be a massive alarm bell, you'd think.
But anyway, I guess if the police are in on it, maybe it's not.
Statutory agencies failed to respond appropriately.
The threat of CSE was not addressed.
And the probability that at least 74 children were being exploited in 48 of those cases, where there were just serious failures to take the child, and it was just low priority and under-resourced by the police.
And it's like, oh, it's not their problem.
Too busy telling people off for hate crimes on Facebook.
Yeah. We've got to tell them off for their...
Dangerous language whilst children are being groomed.
We're at the point now, aren't we, where basically all of the institutions in Britain are at the point where they would rather defend the worst scum of their people than the best and most virtuous of ours.
They would rather be rapists than racists.
That's what it comes down to.
It's a horrifying slogan, but it's true.
Posey Parker pointed this out on Twitter the other day.
It's that they're really more worried about being called a racist than they are.
Being themselves a rapist.
And it's like, okay, that's true.
And it's absolutely crazy.
And so frankly, I just assume guilt in all of these cases.
I assume the police are part of the grooming gangs now.
They're not just related to them.
They're not just covering for them for political reasons.
No, I'm going to assume because of the previous ones, you guys are part of the goddamn grooming gangs.
And if you don't like that, maybe you should have been...
Against the grooming gangs and punishing them.
And it's too late now.
My mind is made up.
I know that one or two, I think it was in Rochdale or one of the surrounding towns, where there were cases in one of the investigations where one or two of the police officers basically said, this seems like a cover-up.
And that apparently one of them was fired.
If it helps, we'll get to the cover-up in a minute.
Okay. So...
Unsurprising you get articles like this from 2018, where the police appear to punish the victims of the Newcastle grooming gangs for review fines.
Why would the police be punishing the victims?
And the answer is a combination of political correctness, political corruption, and again, I'm just going to assume they were in on it.
I'm going to assume you were just in on it.
Why else would you be siding with a gang of rapists?
Blimey, that's like a...
An infographic for the dangers of cousin marriage there, isn't it?
Yes. That's horrifying.
But they say in the Guardian here, while perpetrators were not punished or disrupted, attempts to persuade victims to change behaviours and not return to the abusers led to consideration of deterrent punishments for victims for being drunk or disorderly or for making false allegations when accounts were changed.
The report from the retired...
Barrister David Spicer, the response by the authorities in Newcastle to child exploitation, concluded that the victims received effective protection after January 2014.
What happened in January 2014?
It was the Alexis J report in 2014 that came out.
So I can't remember whether this is before or after the report was actually released.
But the point is, after the Rotherham report, the highlights of it, it's suddenly like, oh, we'd better change the way we're acting.
Because otherwise, there's going to be scrutiny.
They might come down on us.
And they say, of course, that before that, the forces' actions had no impact and lacked consistency.
They just didn't care.
So, going back to Rotherham for a second, shall we?
Isn't that weird?
How the grooming gang's inquiry by the Independent Office of Police Conduct in what was Operation Linden apparently they were just told, don't investigate the senior officers.
That's like saying, oh, please don't look under there.
There's no crime being done there.
Yeah, which makes me just naturally assume that the senior officers were part of the rape gangs.
Guilty. They're guilty.
It's the only reason they would be saying it, right?
Why else would you?
It's impossible to understand the rationale if it wasn't to protect someone who is a rapist.
Right? So, anyway, let's quickly from the Times here.
Independent investigators who examined police failings in the Rotherham grooming scandal were told not to investigate senior officers, and the inquiry, quote, barely scratched the surface a whistleblower has claimed.
No officers lost their jobs, and only those in the lower ranks were even investigated for misconduct.
The Independent Office of Police Conduct carried out Operation Linden, which found that police did not make crime records even when rapes and sexual assaults were reported, did not question older men found in the presence of drunk girls, and viewed vulnerable children as troublesome problems instead of victims.
It was not new information, but I think this bit is the important bit.
Quote, we were actively told not to pursue senior officers, the whistleblower said.
It was just largely incompetent, or at least it seems incompetent on the surface.
But I'm sorry, I don't believe incompetence anymore.
I believe malice.
I think you were involved.
So it's worth mentioning as well that these sorts of things, in a normal functioning police force...
As in functioning as it's intended, not necessarily functioning as I see it.
Police officers get brought into disciplinaries for things like describing their colleague in a jokey way as a bitch or something like that.
I've heard about this from first-hand accounts where people are making jokes and they're sort of bonding stuff and someone overhears it and then they get called into a disciplinary.
Yet their officers could be a rapist and they're just saying, oh no, don't investigate them.
When we know how petty the police are, this has to be a very deliberate...
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, they say, quote, we were told to focus on junior officers who handled the complaints from individual victims.
This was happening across the country where lower-ranked officers were just ignoring it.
So, okay, great.
So it's a systematic issue, basically.
I'm assuming because...
They weren't investigated.
The senior officers were just completely complicit.
There's no presumption of innocence for me when we're dealing with this now.
I just assume if you're not actively rooting this stuff out from your forces, then you're part of it and you probably need to be investigated.
Anyway... Investigations.
That's an interesting question, isn't it?
So, you would think there would be quite a large task force dedicated to dealing with the grooming gangs, given how perennial they have been in our towns and cities.
There's something like 25 different towns and cities now that have had congenital grooming gang problems because of certain communities there.
But overall, in the entire country, there are only 1,000 police officers who are trained by a dedicated task force to dealing with this that was set up two years ago.
At the same time, they have 1,700...
200 HR workers.
That's the important thing.
So this, and one of the repeated refrains that we hear from the whistleblowers and the investigations, this is just a really low priority for the police.
They just don't think preventing children from being raped is important.
So, okay, well, fair enough.
We could do with a values realignment to borrow from the parlance of our times.
Yeah, you would think so.
Yes. Well, sorry.
No, go ahead.
No, just to say that, you know, obviously everyone involved in it.
You know, who is not English, not British, should be deported after we've hanged them.
We'll send the bodies back, as far as I know.
Hear, hear.
I mean, at the very least, any of the people involved and convicted of being part of a Grunegang should just be deported.
Rupert Lowe's like, look, their families can go too, because their families knew it was that.
Absolutely. And I'm like, yeah, I agree.
Why do we want these people here?
Why do we want these people?
Well, if a community covers up atrocities against the indigenous population, we're perfectly justified in saying you can't live here, at the very least.
That's the bare minimum.
It's not even like a hardline position.
It's like, why would they not be deported?
But anyway, the answer is because all of this is expressly political, and now this is going to become an expressly political issue too.
Senior police officers fear that the government pressure to reinvestigate close historic cases of grooming gang could make it harder to catch those targeting children today.
Why? Why would it do that?
What would be the concern?
Oh, we've only got a thousand officers doing it, I guess.
It's like, okay, great.
It's not the mass rape.
It's the perception of the mass rape that matters here.
It's obvious that they're trying to get people to not focus on it because it's a very weak point in the establishment's armour, and by having it in the media constantly, it's making it an issue that's only going to get worse because they're not doing anything about it.
Yeah, but they want to make this expressly political because, I mean, they say here that police figures show that...
Excuse me.
Police figures show that only a fraction of child sexual abuse allegations, 0.6%, relate to grooming and abuse by male groups or gangs.
It's like, yes, but if you've ignored them for literally decades, and as we saw in the previous ones, refused to even register it, did no investigation, or the bare minimum, then yet it's going to look like only 0.6% of it is.
And then when, okay, you bust a grooming gang, 20 people go to jail.
Okay, but these girls were raped by hundreds of different men.
Hundreds and hundreds of different men for a period of years because they were literally pimped out and trafficked around the country.
So we know there are now thousands and thousands for each rape gang.
There are thousands of child rapists just wandering free.
And nobody cares?
Sorry, are we not?
We're just going to let that go.
Right, okay, sorry, I forgot.
One police officer described it as, quote, knee-jerking.
And another said that it was reacting to a, quote, right-wing-driven political cause.
Ah, yeah, right.
Okay, so not wanting children to be raped en masse is a right-wing-driven political cause.
You are right.
You have us there.
This is a very right-wing political cause, and we're going to win on it.
Notice how they don't point out that any of the arguments are wrong.
They're just saying their arguments are politically motivated, as they say a politically motivated statement.
Yes. So their political motivation was pro-grooming gang.
That's the left-wing, centrist position.
The right-wing position is anti-grooming gang.
Absolutely correct.
I'm more than happy to stand on that point.
And they say, look, we're going to need more money.
It's like, of course you're going to need more money.
Anyway, moving on.
Former police officers are coming out of the woodwork and saying, look, this is still going on.
This is, again, from January this year.
This is all still going on.
Nothing's really happening.
There are only a thousand police officers in the entire country dealing with this issue, and even then they seem to be disincentivised by the structures around them.
Simon Morton, who led Operation Bullfinch for Thames Valley Police, told the BBC that individuals involved in grooming networks are still active and influencing others to carry out similar crimes.
So the tens of thousands of child rapists who are involved with the grooming gangs, but not necessarily the ringleaders of the grooming gangs, are still active and out there raping children.
Oh, there's a massive elephant in the room here in that...
By the government talking about the issue, it being national news, for a while it was the only thing anyone was talking about, and then nothing happened.
Well, that signals to the gang members, well, there's going to be no consequences for me then, because it's reached the highest pitch it could possibly reach, and nothing has happened.
Elon Musk started the year on an absolute barbarian rampage on this subject.
Rightfully so.
And yeah, crickets.
What's going on?
Nothing. Nothing's changed.
Yeah, if the most powerful man in the world can't get the ball moving on this, then we can just do it with impunity forever.
Nothing will get it moving, in their eyes.
No, no, absolutely.
And the police are just essentially covering up for us.
I would go so far as to say that it's tantamount to complicity.
I agree.
All the people in the political system that are working against this, people like Jess Phillips, for example, who's denied an inquiry, people like that, I think, when the time comes, people will remember and they should be held as some sort of accessory to the crimes.
Well, she's going to get a great replace for the next election.
That's true.
Sorry, Jess, you did it to yourself.
Anyway, so, yeah, the...
It's still ongoing.
Again, don't take my word for it.
Again, this is the guy who led Operation Bullfinch, which is the Thames Valley Police's own investigation into this.
This is not me just making statements.
This is me reading the people who were directly involved in all of this.
And they say there are other police sources that they've spoken to who say the same thing.
And then you've got Maggie Oliver, again, another police whistleblower, who says, That this is all, like, still going and there's nothing being done.
So Maggie Oliver has set up a foundation called the Stop Child Sexual Abuse Exploitation Foundation and is running the hashtag They Knew campaign because they did know.
Often they were part of the police and got arrested for it later, like 20 years later, and there's no justice being found for these survivors.
She's looking to raise £125,000 towards the cost of investigating and bringing civil claims or private prosecutions against public officials who failed to stop.
Now, you'd think this would be the government's job.
Like, oh, sorry, did a bunch of the police around the country, either themselves complicit or just not care, not do their goddamn jobs, where you were being raped by a bunch of foreign men?
Sorry, you're going to have to do that privately.
And so, okay, good for her, don't get me wrong.
And it's mad that it's come to this point.
And another ex-policeman was like, well, yeah, the politicians and mosques who were around these...
Grooming gangs in these towns were influencing the investigation, so they were protecting their own.
One retired South Yorkshire police officer serving at the time of the Rotherham abuses alleges that the scale and seriousness of the crimes were downplayed because officers didn't want any flack from the councillors.
Now he doesn't say in which direction, right?
It doesn't say in which direction and which counsellors.
So I guess we'll just have to leave that in the air for you to make assumptions of your own.
And another one says, another retired police officer says that the local counsellors allegedly helped cover up the sadistic grooming gang's abuses as Labour is accused of going soft on those who abuse their power.
So the Labour counsellors in Rotherham, Rushdale, wherever, South Yorkshire, were also complicit in this.
The police...
The councillors and, like you say, the MPs who are given cover.
They're all complicit.
They all knew.
They are never probably going to be brought to justice.
Just FYI.
And Rupert Lowe is the one member...
Well, no, no.
He's not a member of reform, is he?
So Nigel Farage, of course, promised a non-statutory independent inquiry.
That's right, I can hear crickets too.
That went nowhere.
He decided instead to get Bangladeshi nationalists in his party for some reason.
So Rupert Lowe is the person doing it.
He has raised £600,000, which shows from nearly 20,000 people, which shows that there is a deep interest, well of interest in...
Having this done, even though it won't have statutory powers, something useful probably will still come of this, even if nothing else, keeping it alive in the public imagination, because like the guy said earlier, it's still going on.
I think people should be shamed very publicly for what they've done here.
As in, the people who facilitated it as well as the actual perpetrators themselves.
Something like this can do that in that they say, this person did this and this facilitated the rape of X number of young girls.
Give the public names.
Names and numbers.
I think you should be prosecuted.
Unfortunately, this can't do that, can it?
No, of course not.
Lighting people up, as it were, is probably wise.
But anyway, we'll leave that there.
I like that rumble chat there.
Can I read it?
Luca looks like he just came back from Rourke's Drift whilst being awarded with a VC.
Michael made the same joke earlier today.
It's World War I general maxing.
And the thing is, I really approve of that, by the way.
Thank you.
I think it looks amazing.
Axis says, the UK will never vote for the right.
Most potential voters aren't ideologically driven and are satisfied as long as they can drink beer and watch Africans kick a ball.
Bread and games.
Well, I don't know.
I think Britain's actually a lot more of a right-wing country than our politics would indicate.
That's definitely true.
Particularly sort of instinctually.
Like, our intuitions as a nation are very right-wing and conservative.
Just look at our attitude towards our own history, like the definition of conservation.
Britain, even amongst our European peers, is seen as the sort of benchmark for having respect for our past and preserving our history.
So we are sort of the most innately conservative European nation, I think.
100%. And what's even more interesting is after decades and decades of left-wing propaganda...
Most people in the country still like the British Empire.
Most people still think it's a good thing.
And it's like, okay, but you've literally been raised in school, literally since I was a kid, to think the British Empire was some sort of evil, shameful thing.
And everyone's like, wow, that's based.
You know, every last empire in history.
Bloody hell.
Wish I'd been a part of it.
Yeah, exactly.
And another thing is the death penalty as well.
Even now, more than half of people are like, yeah, just hang on.
What are we doing?
They had decades and decades of propaganda against.
And so, it's like, you know, we are a really right-wing country.
I reckon I could convince people to do it for littering, even.
I don't know if we don't get that far.
If we aren't embodying the village in hot furs, I'm not interested.
But also, if they're going to go back to one of your previous points about the right-wing perception or narrative around the grooming gangs, it's like, well, in that case, surely...
By that metric, we must be the most right-wing country.
Because I'm willing to bet that the majority of the population out there want all of this blown open.
Well, we don't need to bet.
We've got the polls.
Obviously, something like two-thirds of people are like, yeah, we need to sort that out.
Because it's really not a very morally complex issue.
And a quarter of the population happens to be foreigners, and a part of it happens to be woke imbeciles.
But it's really not a very morally complex issue.
This is evil and needs to be stopped.
Is there anyone on the other side of this?
Not even Labour on the other side of it.
It's like, we'd rather you not look.
But anyway, let's move on.
Also, very quickly, to address the people asking me to get a moustache, if I got a tan, I would look like a member of the grooming gangs.
I will just say, because this was a one-time experiment, so the fact that it's had compliments, it might persevere.
You can pull it off.
I just look like I'm from the subcontinent.
Yeah. Yeah, it's about physiognomy, I think.
You've got that sort of old English physiognomy.
It works with...
So you look like...
What's the name of the general for Model 1 you look like?
There's a particular general.
Kitchener? No, it's not Kitchener.
He's got a big moustache.
Your compliments are too kind.
I can't remember.
I'll find him afterwards.
Is there any way I can just scroll down on this so I can...
Oh, thank you.
Get my notes.
Ah, there we go.
So... Unless you're a part of an Amazonian tribe or a monk hiding in the mountains of Tibet, you've probably heard by now that Pope Francis passed away yesterday mourning.
Now, obviously, that's an incredibly significant thing.
He represents...
The highest position in the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church itself, even in what feels often like a continually materialising, secularising world.
There's still 1.4 billion Catholics in the world today, most of whom reside in the Americas, and the largest congregation of them are in South America itself, which is, I suppose, significant because the fact of the matter was that he was the first pope.
To come from Latin America.
Oh, really?
And in fact, even as a crazier bit of trivia, he's the first pope to be elected by the College of Cardinals to come from outside of Europe since the 8th century, when Pope Gregory VIII was elected pope, and he was from Syria.
Times have changed.
Haven't times changed?
As I understand it, the English have only ever had one pope.
Yes, Adrian IV, I think it was.
Just going to show you that we've always been this way.
Sorry, go on.
No, no, not at all.
So, Cardinal Kevin Farrell, the Chamberlain of the Vatican, he announced yesterday morning, said, Dearest brothers and sisters, with deep sorrow, I must announce the death of our Holy Father Francis.
At 7.35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the house of the Father.
His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his church.
He taught us to live the values of the gospel with fidelity.
Courage and universal love, especially in favour of the poorest and most marginalised.
With immense gratitude for his example as a true disciple of the Lord Jesus, we commend the soul of Pope Francis to the infinite merciful love of the one and triune God.
And he also goes on to say that the renewed rite of burial seeks to emphasize even more that the funeral of the Roman pontiff is that of a pastor and disciple of Christ and not of a powerful person of this world.
It's a nice message.
It is.
It is.
So, obviously, one of the things that has to be said straight out of the box is that Francis has been a very contentious Pope since he was first elected Pope in 2013.
You couldn't really go a month without him saying something.
Communist. Yes, which we'll get to, that exact word.
As an Englishman, not only is he a Catholic, which is bad enough, but Argentinian.
I can't forgive that because, of course, his public messaging on the Falkland Islands has been, we need to give them back.
Give them back?
Yeah, they never own them.
They're ours.
Never own them.
They were French and then they were ours.
Yeah, there was never a Spanish population on there.
No. Anyway.
However, before we do go into the late Pope's progressivism, like anything...
There is always some gold amongst there.
And so I just really did want to dig into some of the greatest hits from this man.
If I could go to the next one, Samson.
Thank you, yes.
So this is just worth playing because the clip just...
I can't do it justice without playing the clip.
For a little girl growing up Catholic today, will she ever have the opportunity?
To be a deacon and participate as a clergy member in the church.
No. It's the lean in.
Listen here.
I mean, okay, well at least that's correct by their own doctrines, you know.
And this is really, yes, when I say left-wing, I mean homosexual.
Where did this guy go?
Isn't he quite left-wing though?
Yeah. Is this an admission?
Yes. Well, and then we'll just go to the next one, which honestly is the greatest, obviously.
This is the greatest.
Yeah, we can't read that out.
Can't miss it out, though.
No, it's just there on the screen.
If you can't see it, if you're just listening in, just go to the show notes.
You know what you're looking for.
But we can go to the next one now.
But then, obviously, we have to address the elephant in the room, which is that...
He was woke.
And what I find so interesting about this is the fact that, obviously, on the metaphysical level, you know, the teachings of Catholicism and the scripture of the Bible, and look, I say this not as a Christian myself,
but from what I understand of it, and if there are any Catholics there, feel free to correct me.
But, of course, the metaphysics of God and the Church itself is that they're beyond the cultural relativism.
Yes. Of men.
The men's being absolute.
They're absolute and divinely ordained.
Yes. And so that means that in all times and all places, these things are true.
As far as Catholics are concerned.
Right, yeah, as far as Catholics are concerned.
However, some Catholics obviously have more of a backbone and more of a robustness in fighting against fashions and trends and political, you know, pressures.
That besieged the church in every age, of course.
I've got lots of Catholic friends, and that's basically the pride they take in Catholicism, is the unchanging nature of it.
One of my favourite sort of developments whilst he was Pope was that loads of Catholics that I knew...
Quite devout, genuine people would be very frustrated that he was the Pope and tried not to speak even about him, which I found interesting.
So I was saying, so you're protesting this Pope.
I hear something that sounds awfully North West European.
Lutheran there.
Yeah, you've been reading some Martin Luther perhaps?
Come back to you, you've just got Hangry VIII on the walls at home, just as a pin-up.
So I do have some quotes from here.
Yeah, or rather just some movements that he's made throughout his time as Pope.
So in October 2017, Pope Francis condemned technologies that make gender transitions easier.
So he does, from what I've seen, there are, as I'll come to in just a second, there was...
But there was never...
He was always just willing to entertain giving an inch, I find.
It's interesting as well that he condemned the technology but not the people doing it or the surgeons facilitating it.
So he's sort of taking a Kaczynski-esque approach where technology is the problem, not the people.
The thing is, from a Christian perspective, I can see how that would make sense, right?
God being all-forgiving and whatnot.
So I could see how he could rationalise that.
But then, conversely, in July of 2023, he told a young transgender person that God loves us as we are.
So against transgenderism, right?
Interesting. Well, yes.
I mean, I actually, when I read that, I took it to mean that you've...
Oh, well, yeah, I mean, it could be.
Become who you want to be, and that's as God would.
God would wish you to be.
However, it was really less on the trans stuff, and it was more on the gay question, if I could suggest, that he was certainly willing to concede more ground.
As of December 2023, Pope Francis formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples.
So, as I understand it, this is expressly forbidden by the Bible.
Yes, that's from what I understand as well.
So, okay.
I'm not a biblical scholar, but I'm pretty sure it was written pretty plainly, actually.
Yeah. Yes.
I remember watching a speech, actually.
I think it was one that Calvin Robinson gave at either the Cambridge Union or the Oxford Union one time, where he said something along the lines of, well, obviously...
You know, the argument is that, well, that was written 2,000 years ago, and we just simply know more now about that.
And Calvin simply said, right, but do we know more than God?
If God put it down there, then we're saying that we've...
But even then, what they're saying is, yeah, you know, actually, we're not really Catholic.
Right. We don't really believe this is the word of God that has been, you know, divinely inspired into his messengers all throughout these ages.
And it's like, okay, but that's you literally not being the thing you claim to be.
You're wearing a skin suit of Catholicism.
And like I said, I'm not a Catholic, and even if I was a Christian, I'd be a Protestant, but I want the Catholics to be Catholic.
I want authenticity.
Exactly. I want authenticity.
Yeah, like, for example, I won't go through it, but in this article, as it scrolls down, it just constantly uses the term Progressive Catholics.
Isn't that an oxymoron?
It is, yeah.
Because progress is towards the end goal of liberalism.
Catholics shouldn't be going there because it's completely anathema to it.
And then, of course, he says that in April 2024, the Vatican declared gender-affirming surgery and surrogacy as grave violations of human dignity.
Okay. Yeah.
I agree.
So, and there's also one that I just forgot as well, which was on the abortion question, where he actually was very, very firm on the issue.
I should bloody well hope so.
Well, you know, compared to the famous Catholics Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, you know, bring back Roe v.
Wade, that sort of Catholicism.
The late Pope did say it's the equivalent of hiring a hitman to solve a problem.
Which I actually think is a very masterful turn of phrase.
Okay, so you are actually winning me over to he was more base than woke, actually.
Right. Which I didn't realise, because I only ever saw the self-selected look at the woke thing the Pope is saying.
I actually wasn't really aware of all of this base stuff that he was saying, so okay, okay, I'm winning me over.
It almost feels like, by proxy, if you are somewhat Catholic, there has to be a...
Bit of basements in there.
If you dig hard enough, you'll find some basements.
He was still a Latin American communist though, wasn't he?
I'm so glad you brought that up.
I like that you've arrived at the economic level now.
We've got over the pleasantries now.
Let's get down to brass tacks.
Economics. That's who I look to the Pope for.
But really, it's the migration stuff that he was really a die-hard believer.
In the open borders stuff.
I mean, he migrated to Rome, right?
Right. Well, yeah.
But also, you know, I think an argument could be made that as a man of the new world as well, he doesn't understand the consciousness of what it means to be European.
And the Catholic Church literally means the universal church.
Right. So, is it unsurprising that he hasn't got very much, very many sentiments in the way of ethnic particularism?
Also, since what?
The 1940s, not many people have been moving to Argentina, so he's not really coming to contact with it.
Although that's probably changing a lot now, actually.
That might be, yeah.
Yeah, I think I saw...
Please don't quote me on this, but I think I saw whilst I was digging through this research that apparently the population of Argentina has increased by about 3% in two years.
So I don't know whether that's a product of Millet's obviously economic incentive.
Millet's just been a very busy man.
He has.
He did have a sex cult.
Well, it was like some sort of weird tantric sex cult.
I didn't look into the details for understandable reasons.
American werewolf.
It's weird.
All I'm saying is some weird Latin American guy gets involved in some...
Yeah, it's a sex cult.
Yeah. But, I mean, this is the stuff that, on a personal level for me, this is the stuff that I find the most infuriating.
You know, like, I remember back when Trump was first elected president, back in 2016, and he said that, in reaction to Trump's policy of building the wall, the Pope said, a person who thinks only about building walls and not of building bridges is not Christian.
Do you know what surrounds the Vatican?
It's a wall.
It is, yeah.
I've been there.
It's actually not got any gates in it, so you can just walk in.
But it's still a wall.
Historically, it would have had gates.
But also, it's like, oh, so what, all those crusaders held up in Acre during the Crusades, what they actually needed was to build a nice, sturdy brick bridge for the Saracens to just walk across.
Siege of Malta, just let the Turks in, bro.
They just needed a protective ring of human rights lawyers, and they were completely immune.
Yeah. And so it says, the Pope also added that some of the southern European countries that receive the most migrant arrivals are not having any children and need the manpower.
Right, interesting that.
It's not about the people themselves, it's about the institutions.
Oh, how are pensions going to be paid?
How will the benefits be paid if there aren't enough workers?
It's like, right, so, again, this is where you get into the, he's a communist argument, where it's just about labour manipulation.
Very materialistic view for a Catholic.
Too materialistic for me.
And he also says, and in some of these countries, there are entire villages that are empty.
A good, well-thought-out migrant policy would help countries like Italy and Spain too.
If only they were full of Moroccans.
Like, has he heard of the Reconquista?
I mean, I'm sure he must have done.
Surely! I'm sure he must have done.
Did it count for nothing?
No, apparently.
Yeah, just fill them with Moroccans, bro.
And so, obviously, with all of these things being laid out before us, we have to ask the question that even the BBC asked.
It wasn't clear that he wasn't, right?
Well, it's really spoiled that joke of, is the Pope a Catholic?
You know, that turn of phrase.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, no, and also, he's a communist.
Yes. Now, obviously...
What was the conclusion they came to?
Well, I don't want to hurl accusations out without a fair trial, so my witness for the prosecution is the Pope.
It's further down the article, but I've got it here.
He just says that if I see the Gospel in a sociological way only, yes, I am a communist.
And so too was Jesus.
That's the most Marxist thing I've ever heard.
Even Karl Marx can out-Marx that.
So obviously this got me thinking about that premium.
I was going to bring this up, yeah.
You and Connor did on Christianity and communism and whether or not Jesus Christ was a socialist.
Yeah, Connor did make a persuasive argument that no, he wasn't.
Go and watch it if you want to know what the content is.
He did disrupt trade though, didn't he?
Flipped over some tables.
Yeah, but that wasn't trade, that was money changers.
But also in a very based way, don't get me wrong.
That was Jesus' protectionism, wasn't it?
Why were the money changers in the temple?
I mean, I agree with Jesus on this one.
Yeah, me too.
And notice how Jesus' complaints are entirely metaphysical, not materialist, so he's not a communist, but anyway.
But I listened to it myself, it was very good, and Connor goes through it in very good detail.
I didn't expect it to be persuaded by him, actually.
I have to say, I was like...
Okay, fine.
I'm not going to play it because, unfortunately, he's not speaking in God's language of English.
However, I did find it a fascinating point for the head of the Catholic Church to make, which is that all religions are paths to God.
Satanism. Well, so, listen, on the one hand, I actually...
I think that there is something to this, and I'm not going to dismiss it out of here.
You're an atheist.
Well, this is my exact point, though, because surely I, being a filthy atheist, with no belief in any higher divine power whatsoever, I'm further away from belief in God than, say,
a Hindu or a Jew is, right?
Because they, at least on some level, are willing to entertain the idea of a divinely ordained moral...
Or, you know, or a higher power of the universe.
However, obviously, obviously, the elephant in the room with this is that even I know that, as an atheist, that in order for you to obviously achieve eternal life in heaven and obviously the salvation of your soul...
Jesus himself said that, you know, the only way to that is through him.
I mean, it's literally the only way to God is through me.
Yes. These are exact words.
And it's such a weird thing to have a religion that isn't sort of selfish with this idea.
Like, to say, no, no, no, it's got to be us and not them.
Well... Why would I go to you?
Well, that's the prerequisite, isn't it?
Otherwise you get a Hindu approach of just, no, they're just another prophet, it's fine, come on in.
You know, they've just absorbed Buddhism and just said, ah, no, it's fine.
But the absurd thing about this is that a cargo cult member in the Andaman Islands of Melanesia can be weighted as equally...
Spiritually, according to the Pope, as a European who spent their entire life studying the entire works of civilization.
One of the monks in the Greek monastery where they don't have any women.
Yeah, exactly.
He's exactly the same as someone who worships a straw effigy of an aeroplane.
Prince Philip.
Well, I mean, fair enough.
He was pretty good.
Maybe the Pope's got a point.
To be fair, I might make that my religion, if that aeroplane is specifically the Concorde, because that was the greatest aeroplane that ever existed.
And I do somewhat worship it and wish that I'd been able to fly on it.
But will it bring you cargo?
Decline is so real.
We had Concord.
But doesn't this just matter?
There's like a perennialism to this.
It's almost Masonic in its philosophy.
But part of, obviously, the frustration with all of this is the fact that whilst here in sunny old England, Church of England is wilting and dying on its face because you've got trans...
Vickers and all sorts of just degeneracy going on.
Lady Vickers.
And it lacks a moral fortitude to actually stand up for its own inherent principles.
Obviously what you're seeing around, and obviously we've just had Easter, is the fact that in countries such as France and also England, we're beginning to see new records.
We're beginning to see a halt in the decline and an upturn in baptisms into the Catholic Church again.
People want, and in fact, I've got the quote here from one in Concerns to, um...
The question of Catholicism in England.
And it says, There's a fatigue with moral relativism,
he explained.
When people encounter something rooted, sacred and beautiful, it speaks directly to the human soul.
I think he's a good quote, yeah.
And I think that this is exactly true.
And, you know, just to fortify that point, I'm reminded of an old TV interview I saw with a very ageing Bertrand Russell where he's reflecting on growing up in the Victorian era.
And he just talks about the fact, he said, the world that I grew up in was a solid world.
And it felt like everything that existed was going to carry on forever.
Then I dedicated my life to deconstructing it.
Well, yes.
He is entirely...
Sufferable. Yes, Russell is entirely guilty of that.
But still, there's an insight into what growing up in that world was like.
I decided that my grandchildren didn't deserve that privilege.
The thing is, Bertrand Russell is an incredibly intelligent man.
Incredibly intelligent.
And even the Peter Hitchens, the sort of...
Christopher Hitchens, the Richard Dawkins, you know, no matter where you are on this sort of new atheist spectrum, you end up at the position of, I shouldn't have done that.
I just shouldn't have done that.
It's like, yeah, you shouldn't have done that.
Well, I'm sure the difference with Bertrand is he probably didn't live long enough to see, truly.
But anyway.
But yeah, I just found that because now everything, even the things that...
We, growing up in our generation, had permanence, such as, what is a man?
What is a woman?
What is a country?
What is a people?
Everything. Everything has been deconstructed.
Everything has been vandalised by these people.
And so it's very easy to understand why more and more people are looking to more eternal powers in order to find that sense of permanence again.
And so, obviously...
The only thing left to really wonder is what comes next?
Well, I saw Wokies on Twitter going, oh my god, the next pope's going to be a fascist.
I'm like, okay.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
You mean you're worried that he might be a Catholic?
Now, I obviously, again, no expert on the inner workings of the Catholic Church, and so if those who are listening want to shed a bit more light, please, I welcome it gladly.
But I found this really interesting, because you can see that in the true woke spirit, the Pope decided to act exactly like a Democrat.
Ah, he packed the College of Cardinals with wokeys.
Yes, of the 138 who were going to be eligible to vote.
In the conclave for who is the next pope, it just so happens that 110 were appointed by him personally.
Okay. And I've had a look further down this.
I think this...
Ah, yes, here we are.
These are some of the candidates and some of the...
Sorry, can we get to the bottom, guy?
Oh, yeah, sure.
Robert Serra, obviously some African chap, who said he called gender ideology Luciferian and denounced Islamic radicalism.
He's going to be the bassist, isn't he?
Yeah, who's going to call out the crusade across Europe?
That's the Pope I want.
Look at the other African.
Peter Turkson once recorded a video saying France will become an Islamic Republic.
Why is the West saved by Africans?
Between the African Catholics and the Dalai Lama.
These are the only people we can get to actually care about the European peoples.
The staunch Hungarian conservative, that might be quite good.
Yes. Progressive.
The Asian Francis.
Do you feel like you want the Asian Francis to become Pope?
It'd be very strange to have an Asian Pope.
Liberals, progressives, and then the Africans.
There was another one I was reading about who's apparently one of the ones eligible to vote, who was an Australian cardinal who was of the Jesus was a refugee, therefore demographically replacement, I suppose, is the logic.
But he wasn't a refugee.
No, he literally wasn't a refugee.
Just because he was born in a stable doesn't make him a refugee.
I tell you what, Josh, you become a cardinal and then you can argue that position from a point of strength.
How about that?
I was baptised a Protestant and I'll die one.
Thank you very much.
And so, yeah, but really, one thing that I also just wanted to quickly say about all of this as well is the fact that I wouldn't be surprised looking at the...
Ratios of which Catholics, which continents hold the most number of Catholics.
When you look at South America, it's 27%.
Central America, 13%.
Africa, 20%.
Even Asia.
Is up to 11%.
And so what I said at the very beginning about the fact that this was the first Pope to be elected from outside of Europe for over a millennia, I wouldn't be surprised going forward if we see the institution of the papacy becoming less and less European in its thinking and more and more partial to obviously the whims and cultural persuasions of those from the foreign countries.
I hope it's the Africans.
I think you'll have your hopes fulfilled, Carl.
No, I don't think so.
I reckon it's going to be the Asian guy.
He's not European and he's progressive.
He's close to Francis, apparently.
He's too young to be a Pope.
You've got to be old and wrinkly.
It's not bad to get a young Pope because then he's there for 30 years.
Innocent third.
37. And they're the most powerful often.
I hope it's one of the Africans just because they sound so goddamn partisan for Catholicism.
Which is good.
Well, they've got to live amongst sectarianism, haven't they?
Exactly. But, yeah, it's going to be awokey, isn't it?
Goddammit. Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
Starmer Access The Eternal says, come fight and die for our sacred liberalism in Ukraine.
You go away.
Xavier, sorry, will the next pope call a crusade?
Probably not.
Xavier says, as Trump is doing the deportation of criminals, I would be both amused and glad if the new pope would do that with degenerate priests.
OPH UK says, as a Catholic of somewhat acceptable standing, I hereby declare my candidacy for the position of Bishop of Rome.
Regnal name...
Fucius Fantasticus.
Bless you, my children.
Well, I appreciate that.
Fucius are first.
Yeah, I'm afraid I think you have to be a cardinal.
So I don't think you can just throw your hat in the ring, although that would be really funny, wouldn't it?
Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
There is a dead egg sweeping over Great Britain, Gitri.
Proud citizens of Great Britain, we must all do our part to avoid bigotry, racism, and Islamophobia.
Here are just a few helpful tips to help you avoid the stain of bigotry whilst you're being raped, stabbed, or blown up by when an Islamic migrant approaches you and begins rusting a knife into your torso or picture him as a white male.
The white British citizens sometimes stab people too.
Okay? I...
You know those old British pathé things on self-defence?
I'll try not to be racist next time I'm getting stabbed.
Let's go to the next one.
One of the interesting aspects of the adolescence debate is the fact that the people leading the charge against toxic masculinity are the same folk that worship drill rappers and probably all support that one black kid that stabbed that white kid to death in Texas recently.
The thing is, these people don't have anything against masculinity.
They just are against white boys having masculinity.
And a lot of those white boys are probably going to pick up on that and only create more resentment against the system.
That's a great point.
And it is something that is just so demonstrably true.
Well, it's people dissolving their entire personality into caring about politics and nothing else.
It's winning at the cost of everything.
But also the entire point is to protect the minority from the majority.
That's everything that they think of.
Okay, but I don't think the minority was actually in any great danger of anything.
They just had to follow the same rules as us.
Not very much of a great ask, is it?
It's not a massive request.
Anyway, lots of people are saying the moustache is looking great, Luca.
So, there we go.
And Gullet Goblin says, really enjoyed the Eowyn essay in Islander 3. Oh, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Uh, the unbreakable litany says Nigel sold himself over and over and over and over.
Uh, yes.
Uh, WT Freeman was, he's, he has for 200 K. It wasn't even that much.
Uh, WT Freeman says, what do you fellas think about Ben Habib's integrity party?
Can't really comment yet, but you'll hear from us on that in the future.
George says, Nobody should be surprised that Reform have woken DEI candidates, all of them I hope not hate-approved.
I thought about mentioning that, but I think I've made my point already.
Yes. I saw something really infuriating.
Last weekend.
So I went out into the countryside, into this beautiful village in Oxfordshire.
It was lovely, like a postcard.
Lib Dem placards everywhere.
I was like, I want to see Somalians defecating in this beautiful, pristine front garden.
See how long you remain in Lib Dem.
Insulated, nasty people.
No, no, that's exactly right.
It's literally remoteness.
That's what makes Lib Dems Lib Dems.
And the Lib Dems are basically a party of, I don't really want to be political.
That's why Ed Davies' campaign is just comical, like, I'm going to go play golf or jump on a slide.
I have more respect for a Labour dyed-in-the-wool socialist than I do for a Lib Dem.
I can actually sit down and have a conversation about the issues.
Lib Dem, they're beneath me.
Lib Dem's just like, well, I just want good things, not bad things.
I don't really want politics, I just want to be nice.
And it's like, okay, but the world is not going to stay away from your door, okay?
The gift of consciousness passed the Lib Dem voter by, I think.
Yeah. Reform UK is just a cult of personality for Farage.
It has no policies, no principles, no loyalties other than to Farage.
Which is true.
It's just true.
First Keeper Orland says, one of Raj Farhad's I'm assuming my cursory researching is correct.
Perfect reform candidate.
My god.
Please redeem at the ballot box.
Yeah. Bradley says, my fiancé is a Bulgarian Turk, an Ottoman colonist descendant.
Some of her family live here, and I have an Indian colleague.
All of them have complained about how there are too many immigrants here.
I mean, it's true.
So even when an immigrant is making this point, yeah, that's definitely true.
I do find it remarkable, you know, all those centuries of the Ottoman Empire trying to steamroll its way across the West and, you know, in wars of conquest, if only they'd have thought to send all their barbers into the siege of Vienna.
Yeah, it would have been...
Like, you didn't need to send an army.
The siege of skin fade, yeah.
I got my haircut at Turkish Bob the other day.
They're really nice, actually.
I hate to say it.
The one around the corner, they're actually really nice.
I've started going to proper English.
I know, I know.
I'm going to have to do that.
They're good as well.
Okay, good.
I did look a bit like Chairman Mao.
That's good if you want to look like Chairman Mao.
I too want to kill 50 million.
No. That's a joke.
But they say they've come here to see Britain and they want to move to Britain and...
They're only seeing Londinistan.
So, yeah, I completely accept the point.
There are lots of immigrants who do want to live in England.
Unfortunately, the Boris wave and previous immigration is just making that impossible.
I found this when I went to Japan the other year, that the perception of Britain from the outside versus the perception when people arrive in Britain, there's still a gulf of difference between it.
As far as the Japanese are concerned, they don't really know.
Just how bad it is.
They think of us as like 19th century Britain.
Yeah, and I was in Japan and they had authentic English tea rooms and even a pub.
Yes. I still think of myself as a 19th century Brit.
Same here.
Even though I didn't exist then.
Same here.
I'm not going to give it up.
Keeping the culture alive.
But yeah, no, absolutely.
This is why I've just taken to calling myself a little Englander at this point.
It was used as a derisive term for people like, you know, maybe we should keep the borders of England at the end of England.
It's like, sure, maybe at the middle of the height of the world's greatest empire that doesn't make sense.
Now, it makes perfect sense, right?
So, anyway, you're exactly right on that.
Generico says, the institutions of the state are explicitly against us.
Any loyalty we have to the existing regime must die before we can manifest something new.
It's totally true, and I've got no particular loyalty to these institutions at all.
Thomas says, cheeky press at the news conference.
Do any of these police officers charged with grooming gang-related criminal offences have a first name beginning with M?
I think they might all have that.
Lots of Michaels.
People called Michael.
Michael Hammond.
But it's one of those things where you know, like, why would you be hiding the names of three 60-year-old men?
Former police officers.
Why are we hiding those names?
Well, I think we know why.
Thomas says, important to mention, Adam Wren thinks that some of the rapists literally flew in from Pakistan to engage in similar activity.
Probably. No doubt.
No doubt that's the case.
I read a story from India where a girl was just walking home and she encountered something like 15 to 20 different rapists just in one journey.
Jesus. I thought there was one where this girl got raped like three times in a day.
I can't remember where it was now, but it was just the most harrowing thing.
And she's staggering around the streets looking for help and then someone picks her up and rapes her.
It's like...
God. Okay.
Charlie says, uh, despite my reservations with holiness, I can't stand all these politicians and media class coming out and support and praising him and saying he was progressive and forward thinker.
Uh, my whole, uh, everyone, uh, my, everyone, I hope, I think, I don't know, my hope, so everyone, one of these, uh, two-faced backstabbing traitors would be laughed at and dancing in the ashes of the church if they could.
Yeah, that's another thing.
Watching a bunch of woke types being like, oh yeah, well, he was really good because he was woke.
It's like, you hate religion.
You hate the Catholic religion, especially.
Spare me your crocodile tears and full outrage.
I'd love to see an African be the next pope.
Yeah, me too, because they actually seem like they're Catholic.
Actually seem like they might be Catholics.
We really were playing the long game with the colonisation of Africa, weren't we?
Yeah, yeah.
We knew they'd have to come bail us out in about 200 years.
We're going to get an African in there and on his first day he's going to turn around and say, we need to talk about the gays.
Yeah, if you had, they eat the poo-poo as Pope.
Like, what?
We need a Ugandan Pope, is all I'm hearing.
What a timeline.
I agree with what they're saying.
I agree with them completely.
Yes, it is Luciferian.
Yes, precisely.
Islamic radicalism is definitely a problem, unlike Pope Francis, who literally kissed the feet of Muslims.
For nothing.
Didn't even say, convert and I'll kiss your feet.
And then give him a smooch.
He may have been a communist, but even worse, he had a foot fetish.
George says, the heretic Pope is finally dead.
Hopefully the next one will be Christian.
Well, I mean, he did have his base moments and stuff, but yeah, I didn't like him personally.
Grant says, oh man, the Pope, his humanist side was seemingly very Christian.
His spiritual side, very little in my estimation.
May the Lord's mercy be upon his soul.
Yes, indeed.
Right, I'm afraid on that note, we are out of time, so thank you so much for joining us.
Luca, if people want more from you, where can they find you?
On my Twitter.
Really? Which is?
At Amy Belargument from my old retired podcaster.
I don't really do it.
I'll probably change it, actually, at this point.
Your name is fine.
Yeah, I'll change it to my name.
Lord Kitchener.
Yeah, there was someone who was like...
It was Monty.
That's what I was saying.
Monty. Oh, Montgomery.
World War II.
Yeah, it was World War II, you're correct.
You're going to have to get a beret now, too.
Yeah, but hey, man, that's a good, fine English look.
It was very respectful.
But anyway, thank you very much for joining us, folks.
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