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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1131

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	Good afternoon and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eaters episode 1131.
	I'm your host Harry, joined today by Beau and returning guest Tom Rousel, otherwise known as Survive the Jive.
	How are you doing, my friend?
	Not too bad at all, thanks Harry.
	Wonderful. Thank you for coming down to the studio.
	And today we're going to be talking about the hidden ninja menace and how the UK government are finally solving it.
	I know this is something that's been on the tip of all of our tongues for a long while.
	We're going to be talking about JD Vance's visit to Greenland and the geopolitical...
	Implications of that.
	And we're going to be having a discussion on 23andMe as well, as far as I'm aware.
	So if you're in a gold-tier membership on the website, we do have the gold-tier Zoom call later on, and Dan will be making his long-awaited debut for that.
	So if you've ever felt like talking to Dan, and you've got a gold membership, then make sure to come by at 3, and you can have a lovely little chat with him, which I'm sure will go very well.
	And he won't spew any nonsense.
	That's part of the fun of it, actually, really, isn't it?
	With that, anything that you would like to say, gentlemen, before we get started?
	No, let's get started.
	All right.
	Okay, so, finally, the UK government, the most serious institution in the entire world, is tackling the hidden menace that has been behind every street corner terrorizing youths for untold generations in our country, especially on the streets of London, the ninjas.
	Finally... Keir Starmer and the Labour government is tackling our ninja problem.
	It's been a big one, I know.
	They came here about 1948.
	They were shipped over from Japan by way of the Caribbean.
	And ever since then, London has had a terrible, terrible ninja problem.
	Violent crime rates, ninja stars.
	But thankfully, Keir Starmer has made the announcement that he will be banning ninja swords by this summer.
	And he reminds everybody that when we promise action, We take it.
	I think that was one of the big front pages of the Labour Manifesto for last year, wasn't it?
	Banning ninja swords.
	And this is all related to the Ronan law.
	Not a Ronan like this.
	That Ronan, let me get his name, Ronan Kander, who was murdered a few years ago in Wolverhampton by ninjas.
	I can only assume it was with a ninja sword.
	He was murdered by ninjas who went by the names...
	Prabjit and Sukman, very traditional Japanese names.
	And as a result of that, we've had Ronan's Law, which has banned zombie knives, banned machetes, which were already illegal to have out in the street in the first place alongside most knives, including butter knives in this country.
	But now it's private ownership of those as well, and ninja swords have been added to the mix.
	And I've just got to say, it's about damn time.
	It is about damn time.
	This is the kind of scene that we see on the street every day.
	In Britain.
	These gentlemen going around absolutely terrorising people and already we can see the positive reception from the British public like this gentleman saying thank you for banning them.
	They've been constantly harassing me whenever I go to work.
	Please ban their throwing stars next.
	So this is something to consider.
	You can still get...
	is it shuriken?
	Is that what they're called?
	I believe that's what they're called.
	Nunchucks allowed.
	Obviously this will not solve the ninja problem overnight, but it's a step in the right direction.
	Our Japanese diaspora has been an absolute disaster for this country.
	Those creeping tiptoe sandals, that's what they're getting.
	Yeah, the ninja sandals.
	They need to force them to wear bells on their feet, so the Morris dance integration, then they'll be part of English society and we'll hear them coming.
	If we can get them to dance around the Maypole, then everything will be sorted.
	That particular murder passed me by, I've never heard of that before, but the kid's name was Ronin.
	Well, the UK government likes to use a lot of things that you've never heard of before, or maybe aren't even real, see Adolescence, the new Netflix television programme, to be able to justify passing all sorts of draconian laws.
	Was it Ronin a type of rogue ninja?
	Samurai, I think.
	Sorry, samurai.
	Well, that was one of the questions I was going to say.
	I should know more about soldiers.
	It's going to have to be samurai blades next.
	I didn't think there was such a thing as a ninja sword.
	They mean a samurai sword.
	I think, like, ninjas did have swords, but they had to use other weapons a lot because they didn't have access to them as much as samurai.
	You had to have swords to be a samurai that's, like, part of their accoutrement.
	But ninjas didn't always have them, is that right?
	I mean, we do have a photographic evidence right here.
	This is a ninja wielding a sword.
	I believe this might be Brixton.
	Ninjas are known for congregating around Brixton, as we'll find out as we go along.
	So next it will need to be samurai paraphernalia that we ban as well, just to make sure.
	You don't want the samurai causing any trouble, do you?
	We've got a variety of ninjas in the country.
	Here's footage of the average Londoner that Josh put out.
	This is a photograph that he took yesterday thinking ninjas could be here.
	He hates ninjas.
	Thankfully won't have to worry about them too much longer.
	These are the kinds of people as well.
	Obviously, one of the problems of integration is that instead of integrating into our culture, white working class men integrate into their culture.
	We have had weeaboos joining in this ninja clan violence as well.
	It's been terrible to see the deterioration on our streets.
	Here's another ninja.
	As you can see, he's wearing his full outfit.
	You can only see the whites of his eyes.
	The rest of it's covered.
	But this was a particularly bad case of ninja violence that took place at Southport last year, but not to get into that.
	Josh has also been doing some research and found that actually, despite only making up 13% of the population of London, ninjas are responsible for 61% of knife murders, and also 63% of gun crimes.
	They're terrible with the way they come along with the times, aren't they?
	Bloody ninjas.
	Ninjas. Not even once.
	And I looked into it, and the statistics are actually...
	Even worse according to Colonel Otaku Gatekeeper, saying that Japanese people only make up 0.09% of the population of the UK, but they commit 75% of all knife crime, with the other 25% being white incels.
	Makes sense.
	Adds up.
	Yeah, sure.
	Why not?
	Yes. And now that we're banning these swords, all of knife crime will be a thing of the past.
	This is, of course, bringing up questions of liberty, though, as academic agent has asked.
	They came for the ninjas.
	I did not speak out because I was not a ninja.
	How is this Andrew Tate's fault, though?
	Big appreciator of Japanese culture, obviously.
	Otaku, I hear.
	And thankfully...
	You can actually find areas of great ninja concentration through this ninja clan map that I was able to find online.
	It says drill map, as in these drill rap groups, but actually it's ninja clan concentration around London.
	It's very, very useful.
	You can see particularly where these clans are based.
	CR7. Based around Green Lane in Thornton Heath.
	They're very well known for clanning around their postcodes, these clans.
	And I was able to find this Daily Mail article going into detail on them.
	And I thought I'd read some of this.
	So this is talking about the machete murder of a schoolboy called Kelyan Bokassa on the number 472 but wait is that Japanese?
	That must be a Japanese name.
	In broad daylight in front of horrified passengers, it was the latest in a bloody gang turf war that's torn apart the community of Woolwich.
	Well, it's sorry.
	I'm sorry, gentlemen.
	He's American, though.
	Yeah. No,
	I've never...
	From the Nagasaki area, I guess.
	He was 15 years old.
	He was stabbed to death by a zombie knife-wielding assassin.
	See, ninjas, famed assassins.
	There's the name assassin in here.
	Kellyan's murder has shone a light on the post-code turf war that turned this pocket of southeast London into a battleground.
	Notorious barnfield estate where Kellyan lived with his mother.
	The Wild Batch Gang operates.
	An area to the south.
	Woolwich Dockyard is controlled by their bitter rivals.
	The Woolio gang.
	Woolio. Yeah, Woolio.
	You're right, you're right.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	I'm not showing enough respect to these beautiful cultures.
	Both gangs are vying for control over the local drugs trade, particularly crack and cannabis.
	Both have formed alliances with gangsters from nearby areas.
	Woolwich Boys were a huge gang said to be comprised of more than 300 members, mainly those with a Somali...
	Somali? Somali?
	St. Marley Ninjas?
	I assume.
	Who formed at the end of the 90s.
	Gangsters with the Woolwich Boys are said to have terrorized, robbed, and even killed drug rivals using meat cleavers and AK-47s.
	According to gangland folklore, the gang was decimated further when 20 of its members died fighting for ISIS in Syria.
	Wait. Wait.
	Guys. Guys.
	Right, okay, okay, right.
	Let me just...
	Kellyan. Okay, right.
	Somalis. Isis.
	What's the common denominator here?
	I don't think they're...
	We're doing sound effects now.
	That was a shock to you.
	I didn't know we were going to be doing this.
	Okay. I don't think they're ninjas, guys.
	I'm really shocked by this.
	I don't think they're ninjas.
	It's not actually Japanese ninjas causing all of this violence.
	It's not even English people causing all of this violence for the most part.
	It's not incels.
	It's not ninjas.
	It's not Japanese.
	It seems to be third world foreigners.
	I hate to say this because this gang has members that died fighting for ISIS in Syria, including a man called Abdullah Hassan, who was filmed boasting of wanting to kill British and Western soldiers.
	Of course, I'm sure if this gentleman, this scholar, Abdullah, had tried to do anything illegal or untoward in England to the point where we arrested him, put him in prison, tried to deport him, good God, maybe if we tried to deport him, the ECHR would have had something to say about...
	One of the articles, Article 3 or Article 8, well, he's got a right to family life, he's got a right not to be humiliated and sent back to the country you came from, and then you've got to keep him.
	He might face some real justice in Somalia, so we can't have that.
	Yeah, and furthermore, this innocent 14-year-old boy, Kellyan, that's named in this article, was an aspiring drill rapper who performed under the Nondega Gripper, had links to the Wild Batch Gang, and had just released a track called Bangers and Mash, where in the music video, he pretended to wave a knife in the air as he rapped about pigs, gangs, guns, swords, and gettas.
	Well, I guess he got popped then.
	Some kind of...
	Japanese expression I'm not familiar with.
	I don't think it's Japanese.
	I don't think it's anything to do with the Japanese anymore.
	And around an hour before he was killed, he posted a haunting message on Instagram asking any of his followers if they had a mindi, which is the Somali word for a knife.
	Mindi? It sounds like a nice way of referring to a knife.
	Yeah. So, here we can see these people.
	Look how young they are.
	Again, like 14. 15, 16 years old, all just murdering each other.
	They were probably radicalised by online influencers.
	By Andrew Tate.
	Andrew Tate told them to do this, and they would have otherwise been good boys who didn't do nothing.
	Absolutely. So this is his mother, and I just read through a little bit more of this article.
	Just quickly say, when I was 14, I wouldn't dream of doing anything violent like that.
	I just wouldn't, well, I wouldn't now, but when I was 14, I think back when I was 14, I was like into, I was just into football or whatever.
	I don't know, I just cared about saving up for a new pair of football boots or something.
	Yeah, I was into playing guitar and listening to heavy metal at 14 years old.
	Wondering when a girl would finally like me.
	I was arguing over who was better out of Blur and Oasis, not drill rap, for God's sake.
	Obviously it was Blur.
	Yeah, it's all...
	Well, no, that's the incorrect answer, I'm afraid.
	You're a southerner, you should like Blur.
	I mean, I'm from close to Manchester, so I should be the Oasis guy.
	You should be, yeah.
	No, anyways...
	It's reversed, it seems.
	Yeah, these are maniac people.
	Like, how are you, like, so...
	The cultural climate that...
	Gets a 14-year-old boy to be like that.
	It's not an influencer, is it?
	It's a general culture.
	And Starkey identified that back in 2011 when the race riots happened in London.
	He was saying, and he got on television and got in trouble for it.
	But, you know, this is the culture that's inherent to That subculture and pop culture associated with, you know, that type of rap music, that culture of the streets where they're encouraged to do this kind of thing.
	And it's been going on since before.
	Like, when we were kids, this was already a thing.
	Like, American rap music.
	Was already celebrating, like, gangster rap music started, what, early 90s?
	Late 80s, really, with NWA.
	It would be a joke, though, right?
	You look at someone like Goldie Looking Chain or something, where it'd be like, it would be a joke.
	Yeah, we'd hear Ice-T and Ice Cube rap about AKs and stuff.
	No, no, the real ones.
	Oh, okay.
	We'll hear them...
	None of them were real, isn't it?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think they were all fake.
	But we'd hear them rap about, like, the mean streets of Compton or whatever, and everyone shooting each other.
	But to us, living in, like, a pre...
	Mass migration Britain.
	It was just a world away.
	It was a joke.
	It was like we lived in, like, leafy Kent or Surrey or something.
	It was cool.
	No one's shooting anyway.
	NWA because, oh yeah, they're talking about how they kill police and that's sort of a little bit naughty and transgressive.
	Mum and dad are really going to hate that I'm listening to this right now.
	Yeah. But that, I mean, there is actually a...
	See, when I was a teenager, I had good music taste, so all of this stuff, like, completely bypassed me.
	I didn't.
	I liked Slipknot, so...
	Well, you turned out to have great music taste in that case.
	No, but I mean, you get all of the media sort of like circus surrounding an event like this because obviously we import violent foreign populations who then victimize each other in this country and it turns into something where all of us have to suffer as a result of it.
	Apparently you can't just have a decorative knife anymore.
	You can't just have a decorative sword on your wall anymore because if you own it privately as part of this Ronan's Law, you can get six months in prison.
	For it.
	If you privately have a decorative sword on your wall, a ninja sword, as it's classified under this law, then you could go to prison for six months.
	If you go outside with a knife...
	You were telling me the story, Beau, before we came on air, that you had a nice carving knife that went blunt, and you needed to go to Timpson's to get it sharpened.
	But then you started to ask, well, I'm gonna need to carry the knife to Timpson's.
	Could I get arrested for that?
	Yeah. I don't own a whetstone myself.
	What a fool!
	Yeah, I should have invested in my own set of whetstones.
	Yeah, so I could have got arrested for it.
	Which is a shame because I would actually, I don't own one, but I would quite like to own a cool katana.
	I'll just have it on my wall.
	But they're not allowed that in now.
	No. There were some exceptions.
	There were some exceptions that I'll go through.
	But just to address this, right, what you're talking about, about this culture.
	So they bring out the mum.
	Mary Bacasa.
	Oh, look at my little angel.
	What a good boy he was.
	He never did nothing.
	And then you go down to...
	You raised a little toe rag.
	Well, did she even raise him in the first place, right?
	Because it gives a little detail here.
	Kellyan's devastated mother, Mary Bacasa, wept on Wednesday as she blamed gangs for grooming her kind and caring son during a spell when he was living rough on the streets after running away from a care home in Kent.
	So, where were either of the parents in that situation?
	How did it end up that he was having to live in a care home in Kent that he ended up running away from in the first place?
	But, you know, here she is looking really sad with a picture of her son who she barely had anything to do with raising by the sounds of it, if that story's anything to go by.
	I mean, good God.
	And the fact that it's coming back onto us, you're not allowed to own a cool decorative sword on your wall anymore because of this.
	Like, listen to this.
	This is the Sky News reporter on it.
	And you can tell...
	Even he, as he's reading this, is thinking, this is a joke.
	Because watch his face.
	The government has banned ninja swords three years after the death of 16-year-old Ronan Kander.
	It was illegal to possess, sell, make or import the weapon from the summer, with anyone caught with a ninja sword potentially facing six months in prison.
	He's smirking.
	It's like that bit in Hot Fuzz in Shaun of the Dead.
	Near the end, where they're reading out all of the news, and they're like, I can't believe I'm having to actually say this.
	But he's reading it out, and look.
	Look at his face.
	He's got a little smirk on him.
	He's like, this is ridiculous.
	I live in a joke country.
	It's literally the meme.
	Oi, mate, you've got a license for that.
	You've got a license for that replica sword.
	Yeah, you've got a license to be a ninja.
	Can't they just use a different sword then?
	That actor was saying, oh, we should ban the pointy ends.
	Oh, Idris Elba.
	We already did that with a few.
	We didn't ban them.
	They'll just start using cleavons.
	Any weapon can be made.
	You can kill someone with a piece of string.
	You strangle them.
	You can't ban string.
	But it's obviously...
	Well, don't give Keir any ideas.
	It's all a way for them to use legislation and, like, public...
	Outrage as a way to pretend they're addressing this problem so they can't be seen to be soft entirely on crime without actually addressing it because that would be admission of the failure of multiculturalism if they really addressed the cause.
	It would be very racist of them to address the actual root problems of this.
	You're absolutely right about you could use a piece of string to garrote someone or whatever or strangle or whatever.
	Yeah so like okay so you ban ninja knives or zombie knives and ninja swords but then well what about An axe.
	Heavy rock.
	Yeah, or halbards.
	When are they going to ban halbards?
	Yeah, when are they going to ban bricks?
	When are they going to tear down all the brick buildings across the country?
	But then the debate is, because it could be about guns, couldn't it?
	So in America, they've got a gun problem.
	And before all the Americans in the comments say that we're pathetic for not having guns, having guns, you can buy guns in England.
	God, the number of comments, whenever guns come up, there's always some Yankee in the comments saying, oh, your society is so pathetic.
	You do need a license.
	You can buy guns.
	You do need a license, but also you need to go through background checks and all sorts in America as well.
	You have to jump through all sorts of hoops.
	You have to jump through all sorts of hoops.
	But then you could get like a.308 rifle if you want here.
	So... OK.
	And in a lot of states in America, it's probably even harder, actually.
	But anyway, the point is that it could be guns, right?
	It just so happens that we haven't got a big gun culture and you do have to jump through quite a lot of hoops and handguns are banned here, even though you can get rifles and shotguns, even quite big rifles.
	Handguns are used by criminals, aren't they?
	Yeah, if you still wanted to get one and you lived in London and you knew the right people, of course you can still get a pistol.
	I know people who know people who have handguns in London.
	It's not connected.
	Of course.
	There is a legitimate...
	Degree of separation between me and these people.
	Do not send the police to my front door, please.
	But so, the general point is, there's no real point banning them.
	Because all it means is, I think, anyway, all it means is that the normal people have got less of a chance to defend themselves.
	Well, yeah.
	Criminals, shockingly enough, don't stick to the law.
	So if something's illegal, they're going to do it anyway.
	Yeah, they're still going to just...
	Yeah, I mean, listen to this.
	So obviously, as I said, this whole thing was inspired by the 16-year-old Ronin Kander who got stabbed to death with a ninja sword.
	And I assume that's the only reason that the ninja swords have been included in this is because his parents have been Have been pushing for this ever since it happened the laws named after him But they specifically wanted ninja swords to be included under the bands as well stabbed by two teenagers prabjit vadhas Again, this law completely off the basis of an event that included no English people.
	Ronan, the victim, wasn't an Englishman.
	Ronan Kander.
	No, whose mother is called Pooja Kanda.
	Okay. And the parents are the activists behind it, but are they being themselves used by the state?
	I don't think they care that much, though.
	Because, again, sadly they've already lost their son.
	Right. So, yeah, they are being used as the...
	As the reason why this is all being pushed.
	But if you do own your weapons, if you've got a nice decorative sword and you're afraid of being arrested for owning it and don't want to spend six months in prison, the government is holding knife surrender bins.
	So you can go and surrender those.
	I remember they had those a long time ago.
	And they're doing a surrender scheme in July.
	Or you can take it to a local police station.
	For those of you wondering...
	I checked on Tom's behalf.
	There are exceptions and defenses that you can make against this.
	So the exceptions are if you have a weapon that's an antique, that being it's over 100 years old, it has functions carried out on behalf of the crown or a visiting force, item being of historical importance, making the weapons available to a museum or gallery in certain circumstances if you have it for educational purposes, production of certain films or certain TV programs, theatrical performances and rehearsals of these performances.
	If it was made before 1954, if it was made at any other time according to the traditional methods of sword making by hand, so if you have smithed your own blade, you are still legally able to own it privately, just good luck taking it home with you after you've forged it, I suppose. If you have a blade for religious reasons, religious ceremonies, use in permitted activities, for example, historical reenactment or sporting activities, or if it is blunt.
	So those are the exceptions.
	Make sure that you note those down.
	If you have a blade that fits any of those, you are not victimized by this law.
	But otherwise, you might have to go to a knife surrender bin.
	Otherwise, you could face up to six months in prison.
	You might argue that any weapon could be educational, because they're all made to teach a lesson.
	That is true.
	I don't know how the police would respond to that.
	I've got my razor-sharp katana because I'm educating myself on how to use a razor-sharp katana.
	I mean, it makes sense to me, right?
	It makes sense to me.
	But again, the UK police and the government are particularly not great with these things.
	If it's an antique or really old, that's alright as well because I assume in my...
	In my mind, I'm really rich and I can get an actual antique, like 15th century genuine Japanese samurai sword.
	And I could just say, well, it's an antique.
	That would be pretty awesome.
	That would be cool.
	Yeah, that would be great.
	I don't want a crappy stamped out tin one anyway.
	I want the real deal.
	He wants it to have been soaked in blood.
	At some point in its lifespan, you want it to have taken a life.
	When you start playing...
	What you need is a cursed blade, my friend.
	Spirits of the souls that it's taken will haunt you.
	It is cool in Kill Bill when there's a wall with 50 expertly made...
	Oh yeah, when she goes to get her blade made.
	That is cool.
	But yeah, so there you go.
	We're a joke country and we deserve to be laughed at.
	Let's go through the rumble rants.
	We've got quite a few for that segment actually.
	Samson's coming to visit to wave his blade at us.
	The engaged few says, Serious question.
	Some katanas are highly collectible, historically significant and very expensive.
	Will owners be compensated for their loss?
	Doubt it.
	Doubt it.
	So obviously, if it's falling under one of these exceptions, then you won't have to worry about it.
	But if you just have a very expensive one, I've not seen anything about any kind of compensation that you'd be given for them.
	If it's expensive, then it probably has been hand-forged.
	Potentially, yes.
	Probably. Which means you'll probably be alright.
	But I think the main thing is, like, don't stab anyone with it.
	Or walk around with it, and there's a ceremony, and you'll be fine.
	It used to be mandated under law that a good Englishman would have to carry some kind of weapon, like a blade on him, at all times for services to the king.
	And those were probably, I would imagine, much more peaceful times than modern London.
	You wouldn't have got as much just random stabbings as you get in places like Woolwich.
	NeoUnrealist says, It's good to see Starmer at least getting the discussion started on the final solution to the ninja question.
	Black pyjama-clad folk roaming the streets carrying ninja blades are a scourge.
	This is true.
	Alex Adamson says, Well, well, well, had I known Bo would be on today, I would have delayed yesterday's request.
	Harry, please fill in the fine gentleman on your mission.
	He wants us to watch and review...
	All of Sharp.
	Oh. Can do.
	Yeah. That's my forte.
	In fact, on my own channel, History Bro, check out History Bro, I've already reviewed Long Form, the first three books, which there aren't any TV shows.
	He wanted the books to be covered as well.
	Yeah, I'm doing them chronologically through Sharp's life, not chronologically when Bernard Cornwall wrote them.
	Oh, all right.
	Do you do that with Dan?
	Yeah, I remember.
	So I've only done the first three, but I mean to do them all, and I've read all the books and seen all the things, so I know Richard Sharp inside out.
	Well, there you go.
	That's something I could happily do.
	That's easy content for me.
	I'd need an excuse to watch them all anyway, so there you go.
	We'll get that sorted soon enough.
	Doomhand, the UK have found their version of assault weapons.
	What's a ninja sword?
	We'll tell you when we see them.
	Pretty much.
	Jarhead2167. You can tell where the ninjas live by following the chirping of ceiling birds.
	DXTN64. That's a black dynamite reference.
	Ninja, please.
	It's always the damn ninjas.
	Always wanting ninja power.
	That's a random name too.
	200% ninja.
	Yeah. Ninjas are known for being silent and professional.
	Those must be the other types of ninjas.
	The ninjas with a hard R. Sad face.
	Ninjars. Yeah.
	I think we've already beat you to that.
	Alex Adamson, criminal, oh no, I can't use X to kill someone, that's illegal.
	That is the logic and Davey verse Luke 22:36 to 38 NLT But now he said take your money in a traveler's bag And if you don't have a sword sell your cloak and buy one so I can have a sword publicly question mark I mean, this isn't a Christian country anymore.
	Not really.
	That is a very interesting verse, though.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because people have used that all throughout time.
	Because when people say, oh, Jesus was a pacifist and turned the other cheek.
	And love your enemy as much as yourself.
	And even if they strike you, let them do it.
	Well, people point to that and say, no, you said buy a sword.
	Remember when he turned the tables over in the temple?
	The money changers he didn't like.
	Don't mess with Jesus.
	He'll mess with your program.
	Jesus will mess you up, bro.
	I mean, even in Anglo-Saxon England, there were the creation of a peasant class who weren't allowed to carry weapons anymore.
	I mean, they wouldn't have included knives as weapons in those days because everyone had to have a knife.
	You can't prepare things.
	But I mean, yeah, the idea of limiting who can have weapons is pretty old and long established in this country.
	Not everyone's allowed to have the same kind of weaponry.
	I think in a lot of cities there would be a rule that you surrender your weapons at the gate.
	Unless you have freedom of the city.
	Foreigners don't know that some people, privileged few, have freedom of the city of London, which means they are still, to this day, legally allowed to carry a sword in the city.
	How do you get this freedom?
	You have to, your father either has to be bestowed on you by the king, I think, or your father has to have it.
	My grandfather had it.
	My great-grandfather had it and didn't pass it on to my grandfather.
	He didn't apply.
	So I've lost his ability.
	Not only would I be allowed to wear a sword in the city of London, but if I was found drunk in the city of London, the police would be required to convey me home at their expense with my sword.
	Just endless disappointments, really, isn't it?
	That's quite a privilege.
	All joking aside, that's quite a privilege.
	Great. You get to get absolutely blasted and then boss the police around.
	Take me home!
	All right, let's go on to Greenland then.
	Oh yes, there you go.
	Do you want your box or should I keep holding the box?
	Yeah, you can do that.
	All right, okay.
	If that's all right, yeah.
	So we need to talk a little bit about the Greenland question.
	It's come up because it does seem that there's some real political will in Washington.
	About doing something with Greenland.
	I thought it was just a bit of a joke, to be perfectly honest, at first.
	In the sense of the way they wanted to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
	I thought they'd actually done that.
	I think they did, yeah.
	It's not really all that important in the grand scheme of things.
	It doesn't really mean anything.
	I did originally think that this Greenland talk was just...
	Just talk.
	I thought it was flex, like, you know, making sure the Russians are listening, that they're a powerful government in power and they're not afraid to assert American interests abroad, but whether they actually would actually do anything to take Greenland is another matter.
	Yeah, a little bit of sabre-rattling, a little bit of just verbal brinkmanship, just talk, I thought it was.
	But it seems to be, I mean, if you believe the mainstream media and everything I've been reading...
	I'm listening to.
	It seems like there is some real political will there.
	I mean, they're sending J.D. Vance there, and apparently they're going to be sending a bunch of other really, really senior people in the administration to sort of open diplomatic talks with the government of Greenland.
	Government of Greenland.
	Denmark. Yeah.
	So, OK, so first of all, let's talk a little bit about...
	Greenland and Denmark.
	So Denmark, okay, there's been sort of Scandinavian or Northwest European settlements in that part of the world for like a thousand years or whatever.
	Not constant.
	No? No, it was discovered by Eric the Red and there was a Norse colony there.
	It was very important when they were trading ivory.
	And when was that?
	That was about a thousand years ago.
	Okay. 11th century?
	I think, well, they discovered it before one, it would have been the 10th century.
	It would have been before America because his son, Leif...
	Ericsson discovered America, Vinland.
	So they're a good family to be in for discovering things.
	But yeah, there was a colony there.
	And eventually, I think it only lasted until the 1400s.
	And they were...
	Saying mass there in the 1400s.
	I think that's the last, one of the last records, like last time they had a mass held at the church there.
	And they just sort of filtered back into Iceland because it wasn't a very, it was not a successful colony.
	I'm not sure of the exact reason.
	Some people say it was...
	An increase in ivory available from Africa and India.
	Elephant ivory, so the walrus ivory trade was diminished.
	Or some people say it's because the cattle were dying.
	I think it's a boring argument, not relevant to this discussion.
	But anyway, in the 1500s, 1600s, no Norse presence there.
	And later on, Denmark asserted its dominance over the Inuit.
	When the Vikings first arrived and Eric the Red discovered there were no Inuit there.
	The Inuit arrived after the Norse, but there was a period when there were Inuit there and no Norse there.
	So it's not so clear-cut as to who is the rightful owner.
	So the thing I found surprising when I was doing a little bit of reading and research was that Denmark's formal legal claim of it dates from the 17th century.
	Right. And there were Inuit there at that point.
	Yes. And I think you said the Inuit first arrived in like the 13th or 14th century, something like that.
	Looking at it, it said anywhere between the 12th and 14th century.
	It arrived in Alaska in...
	In the same, about the same time the Norse arrived in Greenland.
	And so, like, it took a long time for the Inuit to get all the way across the North American continent to Greenland.
	So Denmark's claim goes back to the 17th century.
	So, not since time immemorial, not a thousand years, their formal legal claim to it.
	Not that that really matters.
	It's still a fair few hundred years.
	But okay, now, Greenland does have a quote-unquote home rule.
	So they have got their own government.
	But Denmark are still responsible for their security.
	They're still responsible for a few key things.
	Yeah, I think they're kind of a semi-autonomous kind of state, aren't they?
	That's right, yeah.
	So it's not like...
	Does Denmark pay their...
	Pay for their infrastructure.
	Because I understand that a lot of them are on, like, in social housing and they're alcoholics and there's no jobs or anything.
	That's what I've understood about.
	And the rest of them are Danish.
	I believe it's a net drain for Denmark, I believe.
	Yeah. It's got a lot of social problems as a country, I think, yeah.
	So it's sort of semi-autonomous.
	It's got home rule, but it is like a foreign territory, a foreign dependency, overseas territory of Denmark, right?
	So, okay.
	Now... The population is tiny.
	It's tiny.
	It's like 56,000, 57,000.
	That's sort of nothing.
	That's tiny.
	I mean, to put it in perspective, the population of Romford is 590,000.
	It's ten times as many people in Romford.
	There's a small English town's worth of people in an enormous landmark.
	It's tiny.
	Swindon is 230-odd thousand.
	It's a large town, though.
	It's not a city.
	It's got one main high street, Swindon, or two.
	It'd be a rubbish city.
	Romford's got one main thoroughfare high street.
	It's got ten times as many people.
	Not that it necessarily matters, but let's remember, we're talking about 56,000, 57,000 people, most of which are Inuit, not Danish people.
	I think the Danish population's about 15%.
	When I looked into it earlier, it's a vast majority Inuit.
	Right, right.
	So, okay.
	There's not much going on for them economically.
	There's not much going on there.
	It's not a happening place to be.
	For me, it seems like it'd be quite peaceful.
	I think all anybody does there by the looks of it is ski.
	Yeah, I mean, there's, like, fishing communities.
	Like, fishing and hunting is still a massive thing.
	They're Inuit people.
	I think there was a...
	What I understand of a limited knowledge of, like, modern Greenland is that as they've been...
	The Inuit have, like, lost their traditional way of life and moved into, like, permanent settlement, like, buildings and stuff.
	They have suffered some of the same fate as, like, Native Americans where, like, there's a lot of problems with alcoholism.
	The Australian Aboriginals as well, yeah.
	Domestic violence is quite bad in Greenland.
	So, like...
	They don't have a lot to do except beat their wives and drink, I guess.
	Well, you've got to fill the time with something.
	Sled competitions.
	There's lots of husky sled racing.
	That's a thing there, apparently.
	That'd be quite fun.
	So, okay, now, the Trump administration is making all these noises which seem pretty genuine.
	There's actually a fair amount of political will.
	On this, that they want to, quote-unquote, take Greenland.
	Now, it won't just be, I doubt they're going to do a Grenada, send in the Marines, send in a naval task force and take it out.
	If it happens at all, they'll buy it.
	They'll buy it off of Denmark.
	Just like they bought Alaska.
	Louisiana Purchase.
	Yeah, just like Louisiana Purchase.
	It still happens to this day.
	In fact, I thought it was very interesting when I was reading about this, that Truman...
	In the late 40s, offered to buy it off of Denmark.
	At the time, he offered, I think, $100 million.
	$100 million.
	That's a lot of money at the time.
	Right, yeah.
	That's a huge...
	Now, it would probably be trillions.
	They think that the resources there is worth trillions.
	So that's the next thing to mention, is that it's a valuable bit of land.
	I mean, it's just like a massive glacier at the moment, but it's a vast amount of land.
	There's a lot of stuff down there, isn't there?
	And under it, it's very, very resource-rich.
	Not just crude oil, but apparently there's lots and lots of uranium there, and it looks like in the future, uranium will be important.
	For nuclear power.
	And rare earth metals.
	America doesn't actually...
	Continental United States isn't all that rich in rare earth metals.
	So there's just the resources.
	Now, Russia, Canada, Australia, China, the United States are all sniffing around it.
	Australia is sniffing around Greenland?
	Australia is a big mining.
	I'm not known.
	Yeah, no, if you can believe it.
	Profidious Aussies at it again.
	I knew it.
	Now, Australia is a big nation for mining.
	If you look up all the big countries that mine on industrial scales, Australia's one of them.
	They do tons of mining.
	A lot of mining are sort of Anglo-Australian ventures.
	Anyway, so they've got sort of the infrastructure and the technology and stuff.
	So all the big players that could mine...
	Greenland, basically.
	They're all sniffing around it.
	They all want a piece of it.
	So there's the resources.
	Then there's the argument about just security when you look at the globe, if you're going to fly ICBMs or even fast jets or heavy bombers over the north of the globe.
	...
	into Russia, I suppose.
	Then it's sort of strategic, strategically important.
	I'll put it another way, from America's point of view...
	But Denmark would stop them doing that anyway.
	Right. Well, that was the next thing I'm going to get onto.
	But just quickly to finish that point, just to say, it's not that America necessarily needs it.
	They're ICBMs.
	They don't need an ICBM base in Greenland in order to reach Russia.
	But it just wouldn't be good if China took it, let's say.
	It just wouldn't be...
	I was going to ask, do they need to even buy?
	Greenland to just negotiate some kind of deal with Denmark to do all of this anyway.
	So that's the next thing I was going to talk about, is just the realpolitik of it.
	I want to try and, a little bit here, try and sweep aside the nonsense a little bit, because in the mainstream media, nearly always the angle is evil Trump, evil Vance, are trying to oppress the good, completely innocent people of Greenland.
	They are completely innocent.
	People of Greenland.
	Well, not the wife beaters.
	Yeah, apart from the wife beaters, yeah.
	And the seal clubbers.
	I don't know if they club seals there, actually.
	Anyway, yeah, it's just an evil expansionist plan for the sake of it by Trump to just grab resources and land.
	So that's one angle.
	The other angle might be on the other end of the spectrum.
	It's just like this blind, jingoistic, ultra-maga, we can do what we want and suck it up the rest of the world.
	How about that?
	How about them apples?
	Can we try and sweep aside, just for a moment, sweep aside both of those, and just talk about reality, just talk about the realpolitik of the situation, is that there's only 56,000, 57,000 mostly Inuits there, and Denmark is no match for the United States in terms of military.
	Now, might is right.
	I'm not saying it's fair.
	Might is right isn't fair, but it is a reality.
	Okay, and now the US Navy will stomp a mud hole in the Danish Navy without blinking.
	But it couldn't possibly go to open war with Denmark.
	That's real politic too.
	The diplomatic illusions of the West depend on things like that not happening.
	If you do that, any and all European allies that America has would immediately...
	Step back.
	Step away from any agreements.
	I mean, how could you trust them when you go, well, okay, we're supposed to be allies and you're just going to openly conduct warfare with us?
	Well, I'm not saying it's likely to happen.
	I'm just saying if it did.
	If it did, it would be a no contest.
	I'm sure Trump would rather just buy it than have to send it.
	But if it did come to blows, I mean, I looked it up.
	The Danish army is like 8,000 guys.
	The Marine Corps alone is 168,000 guys.
	The Danish don't have a nuclear submarine program.
	They don't have any aircraft carriers.
	They've got about 20-odd frigates, which are not all that big.
	It's just absolutely no contest.
	But beyond that, sort of like actual naval engagements or fast jet dogfights over Greenland, short of that, Denmark cannot stop someone like Russia or China Or Australia.
	Or Canada.
	Just sending over a fleet of mining operations and just going into Greenland and doing whatever they want to do.
	They can't stop it.
	As Vance is annoyed about, according to the leaks, is that Denmark is a dependent.
	It's already a vassal state of America anyway.
	So by de facto, it's already under American control and it depends on American military.
	That's one of the reasons that European states don't have...
	Large militaries is because America didn't want us to, and that is how things have been engineered.
	They put a load of bases in our countries after the Second World War.
	Absolutely, but I mean, okay, it's an absolutely fair, valid point.
	Again, I don't say the necessity of all of the big bravado, big talk coming from the administration, when surely it wouldn't be that hard to just negotiate a diplomatic deal with Denmark in the first place.
	You say that, but the Danish government does seem adamant, utterly adamant.
	They're not going to have any truck with it.
	Who knows?
	They've got something valuable, so they're playing their cards right.
	That's the art of the deal, as Trump would call it.
	Extremely valuable.
	I just think the reality is that that bit of land is coveted by the biggest players in the world, China.
	United States, Russia, Canada wants.
	Canada wants to use it to get resources.
	Canada can want anything.
	It's not got military capability either.
	They're not relevant in that.
	Well, even Russia and China are no match for the US Navy.
	Russia and China can't take it now because Denmark is an American vassal, basically.
	So to them, if Russia invades, it's the same as invading Europe.
	Russia can't just send its submarines through the Baltic without repercussions.
	Everyone gets annoyed and NATO starts talking about it.
	So I don't think they can...
	They can do that.
	But the American administration might lament the fact that they have to pay to defend Europe.
	But the alternative is Europe defends itself and we remilitarize and become what we used to be, which is like hyper-military states.
	Incredibly powerful as well.
	And then they wouldn't be able to boss us around anymore.
	America wouldn't be the power of the world that it is now.
	So they can't have it both ways.
	They've got to have one or the other.
	If they go harder than they are right now, then it could just completely destroy the illusion of European and American cooperation.
	Instead of it just being what it actually is, which has been America pushing us around for 80 years.
	Well, let's move the conversation on slightly from just sort of actual military engagements, like Russia sending their one steaming aircraft carrier out to Greenland.
	But just, let's say, I don't know, China.
	China just does a deal with the Greenland government, or with Denmark, just does a deal saying...
	You know, no military involved.
	Let us just send over a massive mission.
	We'll spend a few billion on infrastructure.
	And the net result of all that is we get all your resources, basically.
	America doesn't want that to happen either, right?
	So you can see why...
	I can see why America does cover Greenland.
	I'm not saying it's fair.
	I mean, it sounds perfectly reasonable from a geopolitical standpoint why they would want access, if nothing else, to all of the resources on there.
	And also somebody in the Rumble Rands has pointed out that more US military presence there could keep the lanes around Greenland open and free of unfriendly influence as well.
	Right, yeah.
	Interesting, that Northwest Passage.
	I don't know if Denmark's hoping to...
	Maybe they want to sell the rights, mining rights.
	Rather than giving up the territory wholesale to say you can have mining rights on a lease or something like that.
	So America wants to mine there and it may want a military presence there.
	And Denmark could say, yeah, sure.
	But you just pay like, so they get more money out of America.
	I mean, if it does turn out...
	I mean, we've had Danes in our comments before saying that Greenland is just a complete drain of resources on Denmark.
	So I don't think many of them will be too sad to see it go.
	And I doubt the Danish government would be either.
	But, like Tom's suggesting, they've got something very valuable.
	Get what you can out of it.
	That's another thing that I found quite interesting when I was doing a bit of reading or research on this, is that Greenland and Denmark sort of, I don't know if they hate each other, but there's definitely tension between them.
	There's quite a lot of tension.
	Like you say, I think a fair amount of Danish people, like this is just like a noose, this is just like a...
	A net drain for it.
	Yeah. That's traditional in all of our colonies, the Icelanders, the Faroese, all of them like...
	Want to not be part of Denmark or associated because they did kind of like we did in Ireland.
	They did that kind of thing, like banning local languages.
	Icelanders were supposed to speak Danish and not Icelandic in schools and things like that.
	And they tried to just make everything Danish.
	It left a sour taste in the mouths of their former colonies, I think.
	Because my first thoughts on this, when it first sort of...
	Why can't Greenland be entirely its own thing?
	Why does it have to still be under the umbrella of Denmark and it's not really fair that America should just own it outright?
	Why can't it just be entirely its own sovereign thing?
	And the arguments against that, it's just not realistic.
	Dan was telling me about a conversation he had with somebody who knows all about these sorts of things and he said, it's just not realistic where they've got No military, tiny population, no industry, no economy to speak of.
	Someone is going to come along.
	It will be China, Russia or the United States will come along and bully it one way or another.
	It's just a simple fact.
	I'm not saying it's fair.
	I'm not saying it's right.
	I'm saying that's what will happen.
	I think it's already America's...
	It's just that there's a kind of facade where they can't just do what they want with it.
	And that's what is irritating the American administration.
	They want to just go ahead and do certain things, but Denmark is an obstruction.
	You've got to keep up this mirage of mutual cooperation that's going on without just destroying it all.
	Do you think if he has to, Trump will threaten...
	To, like, nuke Denmark.
	No, of course not.
	I'm joking.
	That would be a hell of a headline to wake up to.
	Not in a very good taste joke.
	Trump threatens nuclear annihilation on Denmark.
	Like when we shelled Copenhagen when they sided with Napoleon.
	They should learn not to mess with Anglos.
	They haven't learned from before.
	There's an early Sharp novel about that.
	Is there?
	Yeah. One's later written, but chronologically earlier in Richard Sharp's life.
	Okay, a little bit of sharp trivia for you there.
	So, the last point I wanted to make really about all this is if we just look at it realistically and try and sweep away some of the narratives on both sides, just look at the true realities of Greenland's situation in the world, the only thing left to really ask is how serious is Trump and Vance and the American...
	President, presidential administration.
	How serious are they about this?
	Will they push Denmark, you know, super hard and start making threats and things?
	Or do you think that it's just, they're just throwing it out there and if it comes to nothing, it's a myth.
	I'm just getting the impression they are quite serious.
	I think they're being probably clever with some kind of like, they're throwing, they're making sure it's entering into public consciousness.
	America owns that zone.
	To some extent.
	And just making sure everyone's subconsciously aware, really, this is American zone and there's going to be American activities there in the foreseeable future.
	Even if they don't buy outright from Denmark, I think Denmark might try and work on another solution that's even more lucrative for them.
	But yeah, there's no way China or Russia are going to be able to march into Greenland without repercussions.
	There's just...
	The West, the Atlanticist regime or whatever you want to call it, can't allow that to happen.
	Even just commercial, not military, just commercial.
	Denmark can't lease mining rights to enemies of the West, can it?
	I don't know if it could get away with that.
	Even Germany can't have a pipeline to get fuel.
	They'd probably be subject to sanctions or some kind of other economic punishment.
	We sold our steel industry to China, or whatever, didn't we?
	China, I mean, Russia's a different story.
	China and Russia are obviously very, very different stories.
	But I would imagine there isn't anything stopping Denmark from signing some sort of commercial deal with China, saying, yeah, do what you want.
	I don't know, though.
	I suppose we were forced to give up all of our colonies and then China just moved in, didn't they?
	Belton Road.
	Yeah. You think Denmark would try and get China and US into a bidding war for mining rights in Greenland?
	Yeah, I mean, that's a realistic future, isn't it?
	It would be the smart move.
	It's ballsy for a little country like Denmark to take on the world powers in this state.
	And then maybe, if, say, that happened, it's then, at that point, not entirely crazy for Trump to say, well, I'm just going to move the Atlantic fleet closer to that.
	Because that's what America often do.
	There's tension in Taiwan.
	We're just going to move the Pacific fleet to within 200 miles of that.
	That's all we're going to do.
	Just standing a bit too uncomfortably close to someone.
	Yeah. I mean, who knows?
	And I suppose the very last point to sort of talk about on this is the Canada question.
	And then it plays into the thing where, again, I thought it was just a complete joke where they were talking about Canada in terms of the 51st state.
	That's pure Trumpian comedy, right?
	But not entirely.
	I still think it is largely, almost entirely.
	But there's an element of quite serious political will, not necessarily to turn Canada into the 51st state, but to completely rewrite their relationship, to completely have an entirely new dynamic between those two countries.
	It seems like that is happening.
	It seems like that's starting to play out.
	And when you look at the map, Canada and Greenland and the United States, where they all are, yeah, there's no way that it won't be interlinked.
	As I say, Canada has designs, not necessarily on invasion or anything, but Canada wants a piece of Greenland's resources.
	So there's just that extra element going on there now.
	Do you see a merger of Canada and the United States as feasible in the immediate future?
	No, I don't see that America actually sort of annexing Canada and making it the 51st state.
	And that seems to me still complete craziness.
	I don't think that will happen.
	But just, I think what is happening is that, as I say, their relationship or the dynamic between the two countries is profoundly changing.
	Where it was kind of like a sort of sponge off the United States endlessly.
	It used to traditionally see itself as like a more moderate, like British form of governance as opposed to the American revolutionary one.
	But that just does not exist in the Canadian psychology anymore.
	The Canadian left is...
	Not really distinguishable from the Democrat Party.
	And the Canadian right is nothing to do with, like, British conservatism or Toryism.
	It's just American republicanism.
	So there isn't any...
	At a cultural level, they've already won.
	Like, Canada is American, not British.
	And it's never going to, like, become British again.
	It's increasingly Indian as well.
	Yeah, and Chinese.
	And as for the Quebec sort of separatists, they're way down the list now.
	Probably. No, I don't see America annexing, making Canada the 51st state.
	Or again, sending in, like, infantry divisions, tank divisions, fast jet sorties over Canadian airspace and conquering it.
	No, no.
	I mean, that's just not going to happen.
	But it does seem like, well, not even seems like, I think it just is fair to say it is the case that Trump's got a completely different...
	View of Canada.
	There's been ever since the war.
	World War II, I mean.
	Like the whole...
	The way the relationship between those two countries has been is being rewritten as we speak.
	And we'll see where it goes.
	I mean, who knows?
	Who knows where it goes?
	Hopefully it's not too...
	Hopefully it doesn't end in any sort of violence or even politically too much turmoil.
	Let's hope not.
	But we shall see.
	We shall see.
	Alright, let's go through the rumble rants here.
	So, got one left over from my segment.
	RickTWGP. Reset the wall.
	Reset the wall.
	Okay, we're in darkness now, folks.
	We're in the void.
	Join us as we go through the land of the mighty bush.
	Okay. So, Rick says, if I have a sword and I'm not a ninja, does that mean I'm okay?
	I can only assume so, because, again, ninja sword is incredibly not defined.
	There's massive two-handed bastard swords.
	They're allowed.
	Jarhead. And cleave a horse in...
	Yeah, maybe...
	They're allowed.
	He said wait for it to restart before you...
	Before we start the next segment.
	Before we do the next segment.
	We're not on YouTube.
	Yeah, we're not on YouTube right now.
	You can say fuck or bugger at this point if you really want to.
	Jarhead says, an Anglo-Saxon without his, could you pronounce this for me?
	Sayax. Sayax.
	I thought so, didn't want to be wrong though, is a depressing thought.
	Bebopin2 says, Thank you very much.
	Neil from Parkdale says, Good.
	Sex Pistols, obviously.
	One great album versus a few good albums and a lot of shit.
	And the Clash are so, like, left-coded, like, more lip-coded.
	And Johnny Lydon turned out to be based in the end, so...
	Yeah, and Sex Pistols were actually dangerous and anti-establishment and edgy.
	The Clash were basically the establishment.
	They weren't Thatcherites, no, but everything else is like, well, what did the Clash agree with that they wouldn't agree with that's mainstream now?
	It's basically the Tony Blair of punk bands.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Even if they do have a few catchy tunes.
	A few years ago on, like...
	ITV News or BBC News, I saw an old member of The Clash talking about something or other.
	And yeah, it was the most NPC boomer talking points ever.
	Of course it was.
	Whereas I saw John Lydon play with Public Image back in 2023.
	And it was great.
	It was great.
	When he did talk about politics, it was all pretty sensible stuff.
	Nothing that seemed too massively NPC or anything, and it was a great live show as well.
	The Engaged Few says, I would suggest that you guys read The Art of the Deal if you want a better insight into Trump's more outlandish moves of this year.
	I do need to give that a read.
	Yeah, I have never read it.
	I probably should.
	It's probably worth...
	Another quick thing on seeing public image was you go to those kinds of gigs and it's funny because the kind of people who show up are all like old punks from the 1970s and 80s and they all probably still see themselves as like NPC leftists.
	Against the system.
	Against the system.
	I'm all for multiculturalism because that's what Boris didn't want.
	Screw the money.
	But whenever you go to them, you look around and you go, this is the most English venue that I could be in tonight.
	Everywhere else is the least diverse environment that you'll ever find yourself in, which I always find funny.
	Let's go through your segment then.
	So if you have ever got a...
	DNA test with the popular company 23andMe you need to pay attention because they have filed for bankruptcy and that is annoying for me especially because I was a shareholder or I am a shareholder I probably have to say that for legal reasons before I talk about them but the result is that a lot of people have been advised by independent Groups that I cannot vouch for necessarily that they ought to delete their data and some opinion pieces have been shared around on
	the subject and people are panicking about what's going to happen because there's a belief that when they sell the company that all that data could be misused by whoever buys it or whatever.
	The fact remains that first off...
	A few years ago, a couple of years ago, there was a data leak.
	Millions of people's data from 23andMe was already released, so you might be too late there if you're going to go and delete right now.
	It might already be too late in that respect.
	Oh, and they blamed their users.
	You stupid users.
	How dare you get our information leaked?
	The... I wanted to help people a little bit understand this because people always ask me about 23andMe and Ancestry and other kinds of DNA testing sites because I'm something of an enthusiast.
	There is an option with 23andMe, when you sign up or at any subsequent moment, to delete your sample.
	The sample is your actual spit that you send them.
	Within a month of you sending your spit to them, they can process Some of the SNPs, single nucleotide polymorphisms, to look at a very small amount of your genetic code.
	And that data is all that's required for them to give you an ancestry report and a few medical reports.
	And that's what's referred to as the data.
	If you selected them to delete the sample, destroy the sample, they're actually destroying a physical sample of your DNA.
	And if you said that they could keep it, then they have that sample.
	Still on Frozen somewhere and they can extract that data or other data much more because since...
	23andMe started, I got my 23andMe done 10 years ago.
	You can now get your entire genome sequence with some companies for less than $1,000.
	That sounds like a lot, considering these commercial tests are less than $100, but that's your entire genome, which means you would never have to have any other kind of genetic test done again, because literally every single part of your genome is sequenced.
	The first time that was done, the human genome was sequenced, was like a revolutionary event in the 90s, and it cost, I can't remember, billions or something like that.
	It took years and years and years.
	It took years.
	Supercomputers and stuff, didn't we?
	Yeah, now we can just do it like that and it costs a few hundred dollars.
	So, and that's going to get cheaper and that's probably, you're all going to end up doing that and that's probably how you're going to get medical reports in future and probably you won't even be prescribed medicines without checking that those will conflict with your unique genetic profile.
	But that's not where we're at right now.
	In terms of 23andMe, if you've selected that they delete that sample but you've allowed them to share that data, There's two other options.
	They can share the data with third parties, which you should have already selected, not that you don't allow that.
	And another option that they can use the data internally for, I can't remember what, studies and things like that, which you can also opt out of.
	Those are the three options you have within the settings on 23andMe.
	But if the company is sold...
	There is an additional worry that those three settings don't address, that maybe this other company who will buy it will have less scrupulous ideals or whatever.
	I don't actually know the legality of what a buyer would actually...
	whether a bio would be able to treat the data differently but what's been referred to as data here is not anything other than what 23andMe has provided you from the sample so it's not your entire genome they can't clone you or anything like that they've not yet not well not from the amount of data that's there because it's a tiny amount of your genome that's looked at which only gives them some insights into your medical uh like some they can give you some say something like you're good at drinking coffee or not or something,
	But yes, if you're concerned, you need to go and delete the entire account, which will include deleting the data, and you can do that in the settings.
	But I'm not entirely sure you need to be concerned.
	It's hard to know, really.
	It would depend who buys it.
	Yeah, and if they say how scrupulous or unscrupulous they might be.
	If it is some, like, some sort of...
	Insane Chinese billionaire thing.
	Then yeah, it might be used against you at some point.
	Yes, if it's sold abroad, if it's not an American company and subject to American law, I don't know if they're allowed to sell it to a non-American company.
	Because if that data was collected under certain American laws, does it apply in China?
	I have no idea.
	So why was it they went bankrupt in the first place?
	That's a good question.
	This Reuters article has a graph of their revenue, so it seems like their revenue peaked in the first...
	One article I read, it just said that demand had plummeted.
	I mean, there's a lot more competition.
	Over this kind of testing than there was when they originally started.
	But it does look like they've been going down a little bit.
	But revenue, of course, does not necessarily translate to profits either.
	They might have had a bad model, basically.
	They might have had too many employees and too much flat.
	I mean, like you said, they had big PR disasters, like all of the data getting leaked.
	I also heard Josh mentioning earlier, and I think I've seen people talk about it myself, that apparently there was some kind of internal memo where they were saying insert a little bit of extra diversity into certain white people's results to make sure that they don't get any ideas about their ancestry or something.
	I don't know how true that is.
	What they actually did is there's certain parts of the relevant area of the...
	Human genome that they look at for these ancestry tests that are so generic that you can't really assign them very easily to any one population.
	And they could just say, you know, unassigned, which is what they sometimes do.
	Actually, they just gray it out and say unassigned.
	I used to have 0.1 unassigned.
	But there was a concerted effort.
	They said, if you have people of predominantly European ancestry, assign that unassigned DNA to African, because then...
	In a way, all DNA is African or whatever they can say.
	But basically, it's not like a lie because, I mean, you could say it like that, but it's obviously misleading because it makes people think they have African ancestors.
	It's pushing people towards an agenda, a multicultural, multi-ethnic idea of their own background in history.
	Yeah, and they got caught with that.
	And I think that was true as far as I'm aware.
	But I don't think they do it anymore or they stop doing it.
	Anyway, with any of these DNATers, I tell people anything less than 3%, you should take with a big pinch of salt.
	If it's less than 1%, if it's 1%, then just probably ignore it because it's not that level of accuracy.
	I told you I'm not Slavic.
	There you go.
	1.5% Slav?
	It was 1% Slav.
	After Ancestry changed the marker, updated their markers last year, halfway through last year, all of a sudden I became a lot more English, a lot less Scottish, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they went, you're not Welsh anymore, you're Slavic.
	1% Slavic.
	Slavic's a very strange one too, because it's very specific.
	Yeah, it's a huge region of Eastern Europe that it highlighted on the map.
	So I can ignore the 2% Welsh I got?
	You can, yeah.
	We'll do.
	Unless you know of, to get 2% ancestry would be someone like who died in maybe the late 19th century, so early 1800s.
	If you know that you have one Welsh ancestor who died at that time, then you can say, okay, then that's right.
	But if you know your ancestors from that period and there's none that match the bill, then you can just ignore it because it's just a mistake probably.
	But yeah, I also have said to people, you can...
	Take your data from 23andMe and upload it to other services.
	And I'm not providing, you know, legal advice or anything.
	You're worried about security.
	You have to do research on those other companies before you upload them.
	MyHeritage, LivingDNA and MyTrueAncestry are three websites that allow you to upload the DNA.
	That you got sequenced from another company such as 23andMe.
	So if you're deleting your 23andMe account you'll want to download that data first because once you delete it you can never get it back.
	But then you can upload it to other sites and they'll tell you other things.
	I think If you're predominantly British ancestry, then the most accurate commercial test available, especially for sub-regional breakdown of your ancestry, is living DNA.
	But I'm not sure whether it gets more accurate if you pay living DNA for their test rather than upload a genome from another website like 23andMe, because I've not compared the two options.
	I used Ancestry.com and I'm pretty sure you can do Living DNA.
	You can do that.
	Yeah, you can download.
	So I'm going to go ahead and do that.
	That's what I think I'm going to do as well.
	In terms of these big, more popular...
	More popular...
	Ancestry DNA testing companies, the ones like Ancestry, 23andMe.
	I know you're a shareholder in 23andMe, so that might bias you a little bit.
	If anybody was interested in doing it for the first time, what would you recommend, just for a general audience, not necessarily British?
	It's hard to say because it's very much dependent on your ancestry.
	Some of them have...
	I mean, a lot of, all of the tests are marketed for the English speaking world, which has a huge amount of British DNA.
	But in America, that is because it's a lot of, the average white American is of Irish, British and German mix.
	So for them, it's like very important that they don't like get, tell the Irish people that English or the German people that English, because that gets them angry.
	You're all mutts to me.
	If you're a white American, you probably have some British ancestry.
	But if you have a mixture of other regions, living DNA is not very good.
	23andMe and Ancestry.com are two of the generic best websites.
	They're big...
	They're big and popular, but they're also generically good.
	I'm just guessing that you're of mixed ancestry from across Europe or even have some non-European ancestry.
	I have had South Asian people ask me which is the best because if they want to know what percentage Gujarati versus Tamil, most of the commercial tests won't give you anything like that accurately.
	But 23 and Ancestry have been pushing more because they're a bit woke, trying to make a better service for...
	Non-whites, basically, because initially these services were geared up at white.
	To be fair, I don't even think you need to be a woke company to want to be able to do that.
	I mean, you're just expanding your customer base, aren't you?
	Yeah, it's a lot.
	It's a developing...
	But I think the thing is that most of the people who actually buy these things are white people.
	So it's like that is the main market.
	A lot of people from other cultures don't want to care.
	They don't care like that.
	It also helps that other cultures tend to have a more concrete idea of their direct ancestors as well because they have that folk tradition of just like...
	You know the names of your ancestors, whereas we've kind of lost that here.
	Yeah, I think that it's like industrialised Britain and America have something in common that people are a little bit unsure, because there's been a lot of domestic movement since the Industrial Revolution in Britain.
	You know, you might have an ancestor from Wales who moved to London 100 years ago and you weren't sure about it.
	So even though you know you're British, you want to know about things like that.
	Whereas like in some other parts of the world, people really are still living in the same valleys as their great-great-grandparents and like they don't need a test to tell them that because they, you know, and also they haven't got the disposable income to, you know, invest in frivolous things like ancestry tests.
	So to be fair, it wasn't racism that made them focus on white It was just practical.
	But yeah, they are expanding.
	Problems with legal and privacy issues aside, 23andMe and Ancestry are both quite good.
	Ancestry has a really, really cool feature which the others don't have because Ancestry was initially a family tree website.
	It's the best for building family trees.
	MyHeritage also has family tree options.
	It's an Israeli company.
	But it's not as well established for like...
	All the records as Ancestry, so you're more likely to find other people who are building the same tree as you, which you can borrow from.
	But Ancestry has this cool thing that matches up your tree with your DNA test and other people with similar people in the trees and it can then...
	Identify segments of your DNA and which ancestor they come from by finding other people with similar people in the trees, which is really, really useful for confirming things like, you know, ancestry research where you have someone who thinks your ancestor, but you're not certain because there's no records.
	But if you find other people who share descent from them and you compare your trees and you can see for certain whether you both descend from them and identify segments of the code.
	But the problem with Ancestry is I think they're unscrupulous in the way they charge customers because things that they initially offer for free, they take away.
	Or things that you pay for, you've already paid for like your Ancestry test.
	Then they now say, oh, some of the features that you paid for, we're going to switch them into a subscription model.
	So to get back the things you already paid for, you need to pay us more, which I think is not ethical at all.
	But yeah, these companies have to do whatever they can to scramble money at the moment.
	I noticed that Josh said that because Josh did Ancestry literally like two weeks before me or something.
	And he got to have the breakdown by parent for free, but it now costs me like a quid or something, or two quid.
	Yeah, they changed that for me as well.
	Also, on the Ancestry tree that you can go through.
	So I've actually done a bit of that and tried to go through it, and it's matched up a few things for me.
	But one of the things that it does, it gives you like the little clues.
	On it, where it says, oh, we found something that might work.
	How accurate are those?
	Because I'm not entirely sure if I should trust those.
	So those are based on other people's trees.
	Oh, right.
	Other people who have a similar person in the tree have, or what the algorithm thinks is the same person, because the name and the dates are similar, and they know that other person put them in the tree.
	Now, when I first started doing tree building in 2009, I assumed that other tree builders were...
	Really going to be accurate and they were saving me time to copy them.
	But what you learn is that then they're all doing the same thing.
	So they're all just like sniffing each other's behind and getting the same results.
	Like you definitely need to double check things unless you have like...
	I think the first thing to do if you're going to build a tree is start with what your actual family tell you.
	Get the data from your grandparents directly and then build on that solid ground.
	You go on other people's trees from Ancestry and you can copy the entire tree across, but you might be copying loads of mistakes and false ancestors that you need to spend years correcting later on if you do that.
	My sister was thinking of doing this, which is apparently I think you can spend like 600 quid to get somebody to actually go through records for you and track it all down that way.
	But that's a fair bit of money to just spend.
	How much is your time worth, basically?
	Family tree research takes a long time.
	I think most of the people who do it are retired and they've got nothing better to do.
	But I, for some reason, spent hours and hours of my life building a tree of 3,000 people or whatever, which is...
	That's some classic Anglo-autism right there.
	You should be proud of that.
	Yeah, I am.
	But no one else in my family seems to care about it.
	It was either this or stamp collecting, Mum.
	It's very interesting you say that everyone's sort of copying each other.
	And so you end up copying the same mistake.
	It's funny that that's very often the way with all history.
	Everyone's copying Herodotus.
	Yeah, except Herodotus keeps on being right.
	Or like Tacitus will say something and everyone's just copying that all the way through to today.
	And if he was wrong or lying, then, well, that's it.
	That's interesting.
	It's generally also the news, like all the urban myths start that way.
	You say it enough times and it becomes more true than the truth because everyone's so familiar with that idea.
	Like Marilyn Manson and his famous rib.
	Yeah, I thought that was true.
	That's definitely true.
	The only problem with that story is that Prince had the same story.
	It's like Prince and Marilyn Mouth both had a rib removed?
	Yeah, you copy from the best.
	Great artists, good artists borrow, great artists steal.
	They got the operation done at the same time.
	Two for one discount.
	Yeah, there was actually a thing, I learned some of the actual, before the age of the internet.
	Genealogists, like we've described, that you could pay.
	There were very unscrupulous ones among them who sold fake genealogies, especially to Americans, to tell them they were descended from aristocrats and lords.
	So now some of those are still popular and they've transferred to the...
	Online world.
	And you can see people following these fake genealogies that were sold like a hundred years ago in America as like by snake oil salesmen or whatever.
	But they're definitely not true.
	And I actually ended up copying one into my tree.
	And then I was like going through it like he wasn't born there.
	And where did this come from?
	And then I did a bit more research and I found out about how it was a big scam like a hundred years ago.
	So it's like, yeah, scammers exist.
	And their consequences.
	There's also, like, you know, like, historians, like, fake historians who, like, or archaeologists who make...
	Like Thomas Lockley.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm not familiar with the name.
	He was the Black Samurai Yasuke guy for the Assassin's Creed game that just came out.
	Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, I caught editing Wikipedia with his own research that hadn't been released yet.
	Clever. What's the famous skull that Arthur Conan Doyle was involved with?
	Did Arthur Conan Doyle fake a skull?
	No, he didn't fake it, but someone near to him faked it, and he...
	Bought into it and it was in the late Victorian period and they were saying it was the oldest skull because back then there was prestige around which country had the oldest skull.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I can't remember what it's called.
	It's quite famous, actually.
	Yeah, Winston Churchill wrote about it.
	Pitdown Man.
	Pitdown Man, yeah.
	That was complete fake.
	Churchill called it the first Britain or something, but it's not...
	It was all fake, yeah.
	But there was some guy in Greece who just made so many fake Greek pots and they were beautifully created and actual works of art.
	He spent...
	They used a great amount of skill and knowledge to create these fakes.
	So he had some incentives of money, but I think there was more incentive than just the money.
	Like, he really was maybe getting a kick out of the fact that everyone just believed the lie that he could create fake artefacts.
	That's another thing.
	In, like, the age of the Grand Tour, like the 17th, 18th century, loads of collectors would go to Italy and Greece, and they all wanted to buy a sort of 5th century...
	Athenian pottery or sort of first century age of Augustus Roman busts and of course they're extremely rare hardly any of them left by the 18th century to buy oh but but there was a I mean, look at Geoffrey of Monmouth or Mallory or something, just basically making up Arthurian legend or something.
	But still in like the 12th century or something.
	No one would make up fake history now, right?
	No one would ever do that nowadays.
	No, absolutely not.
	Sorry, I was just trying to figure out living DNA.
	I've already uploaded my results from Ancestry to that, actually, so I just need to give them the little extra money so that they'll give it to me.
	It's a British company, and I can say that's another thing if you want to be a patriotic investor.
	I don't know.
	I think Ancestry is American.
	23andMe is American.
	And my heritage is Israeli.
	I can't remember the other ones.
	Fair play.
	Is there anything else that you'd like to comment on or should we go to the video comments?
	Let's move on.
	Wonderful. Thank you very much.
	Let's go to the video comments, Samson.
	Oh, speaking of Danes, here's one right now.
	It has now been six months since I decided to exchange all of my scrolling time to try to learn how to draw.
	And I think this actually really proves that if you just apply yourself, it's true that instead of complaining on the internet, you can learn a skill and just do it.
	It's really cool.
	Well, I'm not good enough to be a professional, but I'm good enough that people are asking if I am so that's so cool.
	Although, trying to transfer real-life people to a cartoon form at this is not easy.
	That you?
	That Beau?
	I can tell from the brow.
	That famous eyebrow.
	There you go.
	There's some more reference material for you.
	I like kawaii, cheerful bow.
	I don't think I've ever actually seen you pull that face.
	The other ones she showed were quite good.
	Yeah, they're very good.
	Although I would argue arguing with people on the internet is its own skill.
	Yeah, you get better the more you do it.
	It was frustrating watching Mr. Brackpool read his way through his seed oil section in Podcast 1130.
	Canola is a Canadian variety of rapeseed oil with reduced erucic acid.
	All fats and oils contain a mixture of saturated, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats.
	The difference is the ratio.
	The double bonds in polyunsaturated fats make the molecule flexible, preventing solidification at a low temperature.
	The trouble with polyunsaturates is their tendency to oxidize, radically changing their properties, potentially leading to plaque in the arteries.
	Seed oils are useful for skin care and hair care and seasoning cookware.
	But if you season your cookware with seed oils, then that would go into your food and you would eat it.
	Also, again, I just prefer using butter if I'm frying something in a pan.
	Although, again, people have been suggesting beef tallow and lard.
	Yeah, but seasoning in the pan is when the iron is like, it's not when you're cooking.
	I'm not a chef.
	My wife has a cast iron pan thing and you have to saturate the metal.
	That sounds like a lot of effort.
	Yeah, it is a lot of effort.
	That sounds like a lot of pointless effort when I'm hungry right now.
	Oh, it's not for when you're eating.
	You've got to do it another time.
	It's like how you care for the cast iron cookware.
	When you're against non-stick and you don't want the poofers, you have to get the old cast iron pans.
	And people get obsessed with seasoning it, which just means saturating the iron with oils beforehand.
	That's what he's referring to.
	I saw a video just the other day of someone saying, what I do, some Asian person, what I do when I buy a new wok.
	And it was a whole process.
	It was a massive, long process.
	Of breaking it in and doing loads of different things to it.
	I'm with you.
	I've got no intention of doing it.
	I very rarely fry anything, to be perfectly honest.
	I do myself a fry-up basically every morning when I'm home.
	Just some sausages and eggs, just for my morning breakfast.
	Get a nice glass of milk in there, very airy.
	Butter. Just use butter then.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Butter's all you need.
	Butter's lovely.
	Is that an egret?
	It's the person that just shares really nice...
	Jan Javi.
	That looks lovely.
	I don't know where that is.
	South Coast?
	I don't know.
	She's in America.
	Ah. That was very peaceful.
	That was peaceful with an interlude?
	Yeah. And that's it.
	We've got a few minutes to go through.
	Super chat?
	No, we've not got any more Rumble rants.
	To be fair, we had a lot of Rumble rants today already, so that's fine.
	Let's go through some of the written comments from the website.
	So, on my segment, we've got someone online.
	Ninja Sword.
	What kind?
	An Odachi?
	A Daito?
	A Ninjato?
	A Wakizashi?
	Or a Tanto?
	I guess we'll have to...
	Yeah, we'll have to find out from Keir Starmer himself.
	I'm sure he's very well versed in such things.
	NorthFC Zuma.
	Honestly, I have no idea how Japan has survived their ninja epidemic.
	They've had them for centuries.
	At least they're fixing it now by importing people from much less stabby cultures.
	Yeah. Pray for the Japanese.
	Fuzzy Toaster.
	At this point, if I were to get an arming sword, a mail coif, and a gambeson, would the police even be able to do anything?
	Could I conquer this land with a sword in hand and a dream?
	We would never, ever recommend such a thing.
	Although it's possible.
	Arizona desert rat.
	It looks like the UK government is addressing the symptoms, but not the underlying illness.
	Kind of like what's happening to us in the US.
	That was a whole seam of conversation which I wanted to mention, but we didn't.
	It's just that it's a symptom of a much deeper disease, isn't it?
	You know, for example...
	That we need to re-migrate a lot of people.
	Mass re-migration.
	That, yes.
	But also, if you take, for example, the increase in just mass spree killings, not necessarily by ninjas.
	In some cultures, very, very gun-heavy cultures, they don't really have it.
	The Swiss have high gun ownership.
	Swedes have high gun ownership.
	I was going to say that.
	Loads of hunting in Sweden.
	Loads and loads of guns.
	But not many schools get shot up.
	The immigrant gangs prefer grenades.
	Oh, yeah.
	They love a grenade attack, don't they?
	But there's a number of countries.
	I mean, just look at the difference between Canada and the United States when it comes to school shootings.
	Canada's got just as much of a gun culture as America.
	You might be able to argue even a bigger hunting culture.
	There's no lack of guns in Canada.
	So we're talking about something much more difficult than simply how many swords there are in...
	Or how many guns there are in the public hands.
	It's basically the same kind of gin-brained attitude that American Democrats have towards guns, which is that the gun itself has some kind of magical ability that the second you get hold of it, it starts whispering to you and forces you to commit violence.
	It's the same attitude that they've got towards the knives.
	You pick up that butter knife, this happens to me every morning, and all of a sudden it begins whispering to you, kill your family in love, do it, kill them, kill them, and I have to resist.
	That's not actually how it works.
	It's the person wielding the weapon that makes it dangerous.
	And if we ban bump stocks or silencers or high-capacity mags, then we're solving something.
	Wasn't it Trump that banned the bump stocks?
	I don't know.
	I can't remember.
	I thought it was Hillary who talked about it, but anyway, whatever.
	It's like, it doesn't matter, because take, for example, the Las Vegas shooter.
	I think he might have had some sort of belt-fed thing.
	I'm not sure.
	But the point is, if you're a criminal and you're hell-bent on doing a massacre or a mass killing spree, you don't care if the thing is illegal or not, right?
	You'll just still get your hands on a high-capacity magazine anyway.
	In Europe and Germany, you don't need a weapon per se.
	You can just use a car, which keeps being done over and over again.
	So if you ban all of the knives, like with the Idris Elba thing, Take the points off the end of them.
	Congratulations, instead of stabbings, you'll get hackings.
	People will just be hacked to death instead.
	If we call the roadblocks diversity barriers, we ought to call these weapon bans diversity bans or diversity-inspired bans because it's always a way of skirting around the issue and not actually addressing it.
	The bans have nothing to do with...
	I mean, you can tell just by the fact that the incidents that inspire them so often have no Englishmen involved in them whatsoever.
	Do you want to read through some of your comments, Bo?
	Let me shift down to them.
	Oh, here they are.
	Sophie Liv has written a long one.
	Guys, you have no idea the insufferable elitist attitude here from Denmark when it comes to Greenland.
	Oh, they want to buy Greenland.
	Then what if they buy California?
	Oh, then what if we buy California?
	And they talk like it is a smart talking point.
	I try to explain to people, we do not have the power to defend Greenland by ourselves.
	And if America wanted to just take it, how can we stop them?
	It is already their military base protecting the darn thing.
	Yeah, she goes on.
	But yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's just...
	California is not...
	Within their price range.
	They can't buy California.
	Yeah. I mean, it's a point I was making.
	It's just the reality of it.
	Just the real, real reality.
	Again, it's not fair.
	Life isn't fair.
	Geopolitics isn't fair.
	That has to underpin it all.
	But at the same time, when we live in a liberal, democratic, globo-homo world, they also have to have the nice illusion.
	Of the cooperation on top of it as well.
	Although we know ultimately it comes down to the ability to exercise force.
	Yeah, it does, unfortunately.
	I mean, I'm quite often surprised by the way the dynamics that play out in a primary school playground are very, very similar to geopolitics.
	Very, very similar.
	The dynamics between kids in a playground running around.
	Making little factions and the biggest kid, the hardest kid, like what he does and says matters the most and stuff.
	It's like, it's exactly the same.
	Maybe it's not surprising, but...
	Okay. Kevin Fox says...
	Let me just scroll down.
	Kevin Fox says, so Greenland is the Danish equivalent of Wales, semi-autonomous but dependent on Denmark for money and security.
	Well, I suppose so.
	I think because we've got the gold Zoom call after this, Samson will probably want to get all of that sorted, and we have hit the half-past mark, so that's all that we've got time for.
	Before we go, do you want to just remind everybody where they can find you, Tom?
	I have a YouTube channel called Survive the Jive, which you should watch if you enjoy history documentaries, particularly about pre-Christian Europe and the Anglo-Saxons and the Indo-Europeans and such things.
	And I also talk a bit about DNA there, too.
	There you go.
	So please check Tom out.
	The channel's fantastic.
	And thank you very much for joining us.
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	Until then, though, we'll be back next week on the podcast.

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