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Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1118 on this, the Tuesday the 11th of March 2025. Today I am joined by two superb beards with great minds attached.
I've got Beau and Lewis.
Thank you, hello.
So yes, we've got an interesting one today.
We're going to let rip on Fraj, because I think we have to.
We're going to talk about the plight of Birmingham Bins.
We'll find out more about that one.
And a bit of a callback to the COVID era.
Indeed.
Which I'm looking forward to as well.
So that would be good.
Let's start with the Nigel Farage stuff, shall we?
Right, in this episode, let's start off by not recapping what happened.
Because...
Basically, Carl did that yesterday, and he did all the links, and anyone who's been following the story is up to speed on it.
Instead, I'm just going to give us a very quick reminder of who these two men are involved in the stories.
Samson, do you want to play a little bit of this from Rupert Lowe?
The mass rape of young working-class white girls by mainly Pakistani men on an industrial scale.
That is a rotting stain on our country's history.
I do not say this lightly.
But it makes me ashamed to be British.
We failed those girls, and heads must roll.
I want deportations, not just for the rapists, but also the family members who are aware of their heinous crimes.
If that results in tens of thousands of deportations, then that is what must happen.
I want prosecutions.
So that goes on, but you get the gist of what the man low is about.
Let's compare that.
But the number of it is...
Some people say, oh, that's really based or that's right-wing or reactionary or stuff.
It's complete common sense.
It's completely normal.
It's completely normal.
Yeah, that's just applying the law.
That's all that is.
30 years ago, that would be mainstream centre-left.
Labourite, maybe.
You never know.
Well, maybe 30 years ago, but yeah.
Absolutely nothing wrong with anything you said there.
No, absolutely.
Let's see if we can detect any problems with what the party leader says.
We have a Muslim population in Britain growing by about 75% every 10 years.
That's just where we are.
Don't stop that.
If we politically alienate the whole of Islam, we will lose.
We'll lose.
So how does one include them?
We will lose by 2050. Nonsense.
Goodness knows what kind of a terrible state we're going to be in.
Yep.
Okay.
He's not prepared to do a damn thing about it.
I just say to that, I just say no, no, no.
That's just pure weakness.
Elon was right.
That's weakness.
That's capitulation.
That's moral and political cowardice, that is.
We need a leader of men who stand up and make the difficult arguments.
Now, I don't want a nightmare future of sectarianism and balkanisation.
No.
No.
The interesting thing is, though, Bo, is we knew about this for months.
In fact, we knew for a long time that there's a problem with Raj.
We just, we have a very much, a very English polite way of thinking that things...
Maybe he's like, okay, well, he may change.
He may change.
No.
No, we've not seen anything.
How many times does he have to betray the base of whatever party he's in?
How many times do we have to go through that?
Morgoth did a good video about this the other day.
How many times does he get himself put on a pedestal and then betray the base?
I mean, there's two aspects to this, isn't there?
One is all the individuals he's portrayed.
So the Morgoth point is that Farage has ended more right-wing careers than left-wing pressure groups and communists ever have.
He's been working his way through the right-wing movement, picking up people of talent, bringing them on board, waiting until they're just at the point where they've got a real voice of their own, and then immediately sabotaging them.
And he's done that.
So strange.
Maybe dozens, maybe scores of times.
Completely lost track.
What is that if not gatekeeping and containment?
Yeah, yeah.
What else can you call that?
That's the thing.
I genuinely don't know if this is a pathology or an actual containment operation.
Yeah.
But the thing is, it doesn't matter because the outcome is the same either way.
And to add, there's only so much you can say, well, it's someone whispering in his ear saying, Giving him advice on all these things.
We've all talked about egotism.
We've all talked about whether that plays a massive role.
It's the only really answer.
And a lot of people that are going on all the mainstream platforms, Talk TV, GB News, all of these guys, people that were close with him or have worked with him are saying all the same thing.
This is all about him.
You know, people have tried to say about democratisation of the party, whether that is on the cards, and it's been promised over and over again.
Yes, that is happening.
We're well on our way of doing it, but there's been no movement on that.
So I used to look at this guy, you know, perhaps even not that long ago, and yeah, I know he had flaws, and yeah, I know there was stuff in the background with characters who, you know, mysteriously exited the stage left, all that kind of thing.
But basically, I would look at him and think, okay, there's a...
I was fairly charmed by the man.
Yeah, so was I. You know, he's a good right-wing voice and he's saying sensible stuff and he's a bit weak here and there and doesn't quite compute, but okay, suppress it, suppress it, don't even think about that.
Now I just look at the man and I just see a snake who is basically hollowing out the right.
He's systematically setting fire to every right-wing cause and personality so that he can be the king of the ashes.
Yeah, the king of gatekeepers.
The positive to this is it's done so early on.
You say early on.
Well, early on.
He's been doing this for 30 years.
At least it's not six months out from the next general election.
That's what I'm trying to say, yeah.
Apologies.
Yeah, no, I mean, he's explicitly said a number of times, openly gloated about destroying the real right.
Yes.
It's his proudest moment, apparently.
What more do you want?
I mean, I see him as some sort of final boss for the real right.
Real conservatives with a small c.
Real patriots.
It's like this giant toad just squatting on the fringes of the right.
This giant hypno-toad.
Hypno-toad?
Giant Farage bot squatting on the fringes of the right.
Anything an inch to the right of him.
He's crushed.
Kill it.
Close it down.
End it.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, you're right.
He has for years been killing anything an inch to the right of him.
But by the same token, he's also been moving left that whole time.
So as we saw now, his position now is that basically we need to appease Islam until Islam takes over and there's nothing you can do about it.
It's like, well, why would I vote for that?
That's insane.
That's insane.
Anyone wants a Britain or England to exist in a few decades' time?
That's insane.
If that's the policy, I'd rather go full accelerationist and bring the civil war about now, you know, while we're still not completely demoralised.
How many times do you have to go through it?
How many examples are there throughout history?
Of big Islamic populations coming, eventually setting up their own political parties, all voting en masse for it, and taking over.
Yeah, and once a country becomes an Islamic country, it's always the same thing happens, and that's the same thing that's happening in Syria right now.
Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran.
Lebanon, yeah, it's all of them.
The moment it happens, yeah, then...
There's nothing that can be done about it.
It's just a fact.
Let's just...
Don't try and push back.
Don't say anything.
In fact, don't even say anything, otherwise you'll be on the pale.
How about no?
No, no, no.
We don't want to stand this.
No, no, no.
Not this time.
Not this time.
No, no, no.
I don't think so.
And, yeah, I think you're right.
I mean, it is so good that this didn't happen just a few months before the election because we realise now that, you know, any support that we lent to reform and Farage was basically following a mirage in the desert.
We've still got people travelling with us who are saying, no, no, I'm so thirsty, I'm so desperate, I want to keep going towards the mirage.
And it's like, no, if you keep going in that direction, you're taking yourself further and further away.
You're just making it more difficult.
Any energy invested in reform at this point, I realise, is just wasted energy.
Because he is either consciously or unconsciously a containment effort.
I'd like to say as well, obviously I'm coming at this from another angle as well.
Man is very valuable, as we know.
Extremely valuable.
You can't really...
That's why idol worship throughout history is extremely frowned upon in all sorts.
So we have to remind ourselves that, you know, people...
Mankind is extremely valuable.
And we can see...
With Farage, how valuable he is.
Not to give him credit, because what he's been doing is just totally outrageous.
I've met him twice, and I'll keep it quick.
I've met Farage twice, both times.
It was very rude to me, personally.
One was at a Reason conference, where I was with Maya Tuzzi, and we spoke.
And he said, would you like to meet him?
I said, yeah, I'd love to.
It was great.
So I got to meet him, shook his hand.
I said, the first thing I said was, oh, it's lovely to meet you.
And this was a few years ago now.
And I said, you know, really admire what you've done with, you know, Brexit and everything.
You know, thank you.
And he went, you need to get out more.
Really?
That was what he said.
He said, maybe we should get out more.
And I went red.
And everyone around laughed.
And I felt so humiliated.
And I was kind of like...
Wow, that's weird.
I mean, I have people come up to me on the street.
I mean, they're supporters.
You're just always nice to them.
I mean, that's just...
You went, I said, I'm a massive fan.
You know, what your work's done is fantastic.
And he went, maybe you should get out more.
That was the response.
So I still have that even years ago.
Last time I met him must have been almost 20 years ago, but I went down the pub with him and had dinner with him, and he was perfectly charming.
Yeah, great.
One thing I have heard said is that the plane crash changed him.
Maybe he's got some sort of PSD after that or something.
But then, to be fair, this behaviour of destroying rivals was going on well before that.
Sorry, so the second time was during This campaign of reform and met him in Clacton.
And I thought, I'll try and get like a question at least.
I wanted to actually confront him about his comments about Tony Blair, him being the SAR, the V, can't say the full word, but, you know, about, you know, whether he's rolled back on that comments.
Does he still believe in that?
The video is still up of him, you know, exclaiming that.
But I started with a first question because he was attacked several times during his campaign.
That's awful.
And I said, you know, how are you mentally coping with that?
First question.
Fine.
Walked straight off.
Didn't want to...
I said, I asked, may I ask you a few questions?
And he went...
And I'm sitting there going, I don't know if he knows me.
I wouldn't expect him to.
That's fine.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
I'm not bothered about that.
A bit of courtesy, I thought.
And after those two interactions, I put the first one behind me and I thought, fine.
But the second one, I realised after, like, you can't rely.
I just want to pick up on something that somebody's mentioned in the comments about, oh, it's down to Zaya Yusuf has captured him and that kind of stuff.
Right.
I'm not sure that's the case because this is a pattern of behaviour that goes back well before Zaya Yusuf.
I think Zaya Yusuf was selected because he's the right sort of hatchet man for him.
You know, he can do the internal hatchet stuff.
It wasn't by accident, was it?
Yeah.
I mean, just because Nigel was strong on Brexit, that doesn't really mean anything.
Okay, he was based on the European project.
All right, fine.
Well done.
And everything else is just some Tory wet.
Some liberal, really.
Yeah, and he's hiring wets as well, yeah.
Some globalist.
Yeah, any Tory who wants to join him.
He's not the guy.
He found the crown in the gutter.
But just booted it along to a sewer drain.
Yeah.
Although he found the crown in the gutter and immediately sold it to a Sri Lankan called Mohammed.
He wrapped it up in a used nappy and popped it straight in a skip.
You compare that to Lowe.
Lowe's staff wrote a letter for him basically saying, look, they fully appreciate what it is that...
You know, the way that Lowe behaves.
They point out this allegation of bullying, which apparently was so severe that they needed to report Rupert Lowe to the police.
And just bear in mind, the reason you report somebody to the police is because you want them jailed.
Yeah, of course.
And that's what reform did to Rupert Lowe.
It turns out that these bullying allegations were not only just coming from his staff, but actually they're coming from a woman who was just on the verge of being dismissed.
And on her way out, she decided to make up all these vexious...
One of which was a bullying.
And that's what he's been reported to the police for.
I mean, this is a beautifully well-written letter from Rupert Staff.
In fact, it reminded me in terms of well-written letters to this, which is the Islander.
So if you would like to support us, we are demonetised.
We don't get anything from YouTube whatsoever.
The only reason we are here is because people support us.
If you don't support us, we're not going to be here any longer.
So if you'd like to do so, please buy Islander 3. Very smooth.
I like that.
Yes, I did that as much as I could.
The underlying issue that I got here, and Burnside pointed out very well, is...
D.I. Burnside?
Yes, D.I. Burnside.
He's still active on Twitter.
Blast from the past.
He points out if Raj can contrive a load of horse something against his best MPs, I don't think he is above spouting absolute something ahead of the next election as he has no intention of delivering.
And this is the main thing.
It's like Nigel used to say some...
He used to be at the right-hand side of the Overton window, but as the Overton window expands, he's actually been moving further to the left.
He's saying now, under no circumstances are we going to deport anyone.
You know, even the Tories and the Labour Party are now to the right of reform.
I think he's out of touch.
I think he hasn't read the room.
I don't really like the expression, but there's been a vibe shift with Trump and Vance and everything.
Yeah, you would have thought that that would be emanated here, trickled down.
And now there's people like Jenrick and the people that surround Jenrick are further to the right than Nigel.
So what's the point?
Yeah.
What's the point of it?
Well, the point is, possibly, to carry on destroying right-wing careers.
That seems to be the only function DNA has left.
I don't see how it can be described.
Now, after the low incident, I don't see how it can be described as anything other than a containment project.
Yeah.
I mean, we talk about the number of personalities.
That have been taken out by Farage.
But I mean, here's another one that I've completely forgotten.
And I saw this pop up and I thought, oh yeah, Henry Bolton as well.
I mean, it's legion, the number of people.
I mean, I remember Kilroy Silk and Godfrey Bloom and Stephen Wolf.
Susan Evans Batten, yeah.
Ben Habib, of course.
But when you start looking into it...
There are literally dozens and dozens of these people that he's taken out.
And Henry Bolton here, he basically just explains quite neatly the way it was done to him.
And basically, they throw a lot of shit at you and some of it sticks.
And he has a bigger megaphone than the person that he's smearing.
So some of it sticks.
They keep repeating it.
They push him out of the party.
What's he going to do at that point?
And that's it.
You're done.
Done it again and again.
The real right, real patrons have got to step over Farage, got to get past him.
He's simply in the way.
Now, it's as simple as that.
The way that Boris or Rishi was just simply in the way of saving us, of saving this country once again from a nightmare future of endless sectarian violence and the balkanisation.
We have to remember as well, the Uni Party...
Has four parties, all with the same, and reform was supposed to be the odd one out, but they're not, clearly, because Farage has wanted to be in Parliament for a long time.
He came second or third in a lot of his elections, of him trying to win a vote to become an MP, and he's finally got it, this arc that he's finally fulfilled.
I can't help but think, and it's quite clear to see that it is this, and it can't be anything else, that it is to do with ego.
And politics is such a dirty game.
I actually hate politics.
I see it as a sport, right?
And, you know, you disagree with me all you like, it's fine.
That's why I said that mankind is very valuable, so don't put your faith in man, is my point.
Because you're only going to have a very, very bad time.
Don't put your faith in Nigel Farage either.
Yeah, absolutely.
But the worrying thing is the normies are going to be very slow to update their mental software.
The normies have only just caught up with the fact that Boris Johnson imported a million people a year as soon as he got into office.
And the disaffected Tory boys are still completely on the Farage.
Wagon.
They made their jump from the Tory party to reform and now they're remiss to actually notice that Farage is...
And a Lib Dem candidate just recently.
So what's going to happen here?
Are we going to...
Because anyone who is paying attention, anyone who is politically aware sees Nigel Farage for what he is.
To be fair, a lot of people saw it earlier.
And they will admit themselves that they just kind of kept quiet about it because there was too much energy behind Nigel Farage.
But Nigel Farage does this again and again.
He gathers up a huge amount of energy and then he dissipates it at the critical moment.
He did it when he was in UKIP. The most famous example is just before the 2019 election when he disbanded the Brexit party.
Well, he didn't disband it, but he basically stood it down almost everywhere.
That's Calvin Robinson as well.
Calvin was going to stand for the Brexit party, I believe.
Yeah, that was a massive, massive betrayal, that.
I mean, unbelievable.
Yeah.
He handed it to...
Well, he handed power to Boris Johnson, who then imported over a million people a year to the third world.
I think Nigel's just always wanted to be accepted by the establishment.
Yeah, that's it.
To be a Tory MP and to lead the Tory party.
And they didn't want him.
For whatever reason, they always thought he was beyond the power.
So he'll make his own thing, create his own thing.
But it will just essentially be Tory's 2.0.
Not even as strong as a Jenrick-led party, for example, which is kind of milquetoast to me.
Jenrick's still a choir boy, as far as I'm concerned.
But that's what Nigel has always wanted.
And that's why he will have any defections from the Tories, of course.
Derek, have them in.
I made this point to Lewis earlier.
I guarantee that as we get closer to the next election, if it looks like reform is going to win, there'll be like 50 defections from the Tories.
And he'll take all of them.
I won't be surprised if they have a full-blown pact sometime.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Yeah, that's what I'm visioning now.
Well, Richard Tice has been very clear in private for a long time that it's all about the fact that he wasn't allowed to be a Tory MP and he's taking revenge on them.
Yeah, it's vengeful.
It's vengeful, but it's still part of the establishment.
That was my point.
Yeah, exactly.
That was my point earlier about not really reading the room, being too old, too boomer-ish.
To set on the old paradigms, the post-war consensus and all that sort of thing, to sort of actually break out of the mould and actually talk about new politics, talk about difficult policies that are required to save the country.
I mean, all he really wants to do is appeal to Channel 4 and The Guardian.
In fact, there's a little Channel 4 mini-documentary put out on this matter.
A couple of days ago.
And they kind of go around the reform sort of new HQ. And he's basically saying, this is where all the action happens.
And the Channel 4 guy's like, okay, well, what's the key thing?
It's like, oh, it's candidate vetting.
The Channel 4 guy says, which is when you go through their social history to see if they've said anything interesting.
He's like, yeah, it's mostly that.
So he is desperately trying to appeal to people who are never going to vote for him.
Yeah.
Or, I don't know, or whatever the situation is.
Surround himself with sheep.
Yeah, I... Great idea, to be perfectly honest.
Nigel Farage is still tweeting as if nothing has happened.
Yeah, that's one of the most funny stroke frustrating things.
Just pretend nothing's wrong.
Clearly, him and the top brass, so him, Zaya, Yusuf and Tice have all got together and they've decided...
This is so bad for us that we're just going to ignore it and see if that works.
So he's coming out.
So it's quite funny, though, because this morning he's saying that he's going for gold in Hull and East Yorkshire with Luke Campbell.
And I just retweeted that and said, Luke Campbell, mate, make sure you don't get too popular.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he's going to be booted next as well.
Or say anything about the future destruction of this country demographically.
Don't mention that.
Or legal migration.
Like the thing that Nigel does, even just a day or two ago.
Tweeting about the boat people.
How many numbers have come across the channel as boat migrants?
Yeah, we all know.
Yeah, we know.
Yeah, now give us a strong policy.
Now talk about legal migration.
Yes.
Be strong.
Be a leader.
Save us.
No, no, no.
None of that.
None of that.
And if you try, we'll dob you into the police for some spurious reasons.
Yeah.
Filth.
Filth.
Nobody cares about the allegations.
Unacceptable.
Because it's obvious that they're bullshit.
I think so.
I would have thought so.
I wasn't there, so I don't know, but I'd put decent money on there.
I'm not even going to entertain it.
I mean, this was the mistake I made in the early days of the Trump admin of the Russian collusion stuff.
I thought, okay, well, it's probably bullshit, but let's see what they've got.
From now on, I'm just like, no.
No, I'm just not even entertaining it.
It's clearly complete rubbish.
And that Rupert Lowe could sort of physically intimidate or assault Zia Yusuf?
Like, aren't they?
30 years different.
Well, actually, I put out a tweet that did very well, a couple of satirical tweets.
One of them was Nigel Farage has had his dog put down because according to internal polling, the dog was getting more popular than him.
And the second one was that a 93-year-old reform counsellor would beat up the Bath rugby team.
Right.
Because, I mean, it's basically a parody of what's going on here.
Yeah, apparently Zaya Yusuf felt threatened by 67-year-old Rupert Lowe.
And the crazy thing is, right, Rupert Lowe could actually build, if he was leader of reform, he could build it into a major operation because he's run major operations.
I mean, he ran Southampton Football Club and other large organisations.
Yeah, business mindset.
If he can deal with a bunch of football players, I'm sure he can manage a bunch of politicians.
Well, he said on the damn Wooten.
His appearance yesterday, he said that, you know, he went, this is child's play in comparison to what I've had before, you know, sitting in a stadium where so many people shouting about you, like calling you all sorts of names in front of your wife.
That sounds like our comment section.
And, you know, he's like, this is child's play, like in comparison, but it's such a betrayal.
And you can see spirit, you know, with leadership, you need spirit, right?
You need that drive.
Not a dark demonic spirit.
Exactly.
Sorry.
No, no, no.
He could have been the leader of the...
I joke about that he found the crown in the gutter instead of picking it up with his sword.
Just chucked it in a skip or whatever.
Yeah, he could have been the king.
He could have united the right.
This is the thing.
I don't think Lowe had the slightest interest of replacing him as leader.
Lowe was just doing his job and got too popular.
That's it.
For Tyus and Nigel, even, like, the Tommy crew are beyond the pale.
Oh, yeah, because Tommy's one inch to the right of him, so...
Yeah.
Again, Tommy talks just, like, it's not strong stuff.
It's not extreme stuff that Tommy talks about.
Like, the idea that you and me are far beyond the pale.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Come on!
Fair heads up, Sanson.
I've just noticed that the last image on my dock isn't up there.
If you can grab that in a moment.
Before I do that, I'll just point out that, you know, it's not just MPs that he's getting rid of.
You know, this is a, was it the Stafford branch of reform had just been told that all of their guys have been booted out.
And, you know, this chap here on Twitter is pointing out that, yeah, this is what the Tories do whenever a local branch threatens to become genuinely conservative.
They get rid of them and impose leftists instead.
Just close it down, literally, close it down, and then parachute in a bunch of people from HQ. Who are toeing the line and are milqueto-centrists, or leftists in disguise.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's not just individuals, it's whole branches who look like they might want actual right-wing solutions getting the boot.
This is interesting, though.
This was fascinating.
This was a poll that came out just before we went on air, so I just managed to grab it and add it in.
Because my concern was, is that basically the boom of reform voters wouldn't catch up in time.
But this is interesting.
33% of reformed voters now think the party would do better under a different leader.
That is a lot higher than I thought it would be.
So this has had a lot of cut through.
That's you, Gov, as well.
Yeah.
Problem is, though, it would just have to be a new party because reform is Nigel Farage.
Reform, no, no.
Nigel will make sure that...
He owns it, right?
He owns it.
Yeah, Nigel will make sure that the entire right-wing movement collapses before he gives up reform.
Okay, well, it's on then.
Well, the battle's on then.
Yeah.
Because you can't...
Nigel, I assume, won't step down, won't listen to any criticism.
And so there's no replacing...
There's no, like, internal voting within reform, within the membership, to replace him.
I don't believe there's anything like that.
It's like a company, essentially, isn't it, that he owns, or the majority owns.
So he's not going...
There's no change of leadership happening in reform.
Yes.
So it would have to be a new party then?
Well, you say it might have to be a new party, but putting together a new party is a difficult thing.
But here's another ray of light.
Musk is considering backing Rupert Lowe.
Oh!
So Lowe...
Is this new?
Is this recent?
Yeah, this came out just before we came on air.
Oh, right.
So we do know that Lowe has been communicating with Musk by DMs on Twitter.
Really?
And Musk is apparently saying, yeah, well, Lowe, if you form a new party, you know, is a couple of hundred million for you.
So actually, it's not impossible that we get to do something about this before the next general election, because we can't have Nigel Farage sabotaging the right again and again.
Remember, as well, like I said earlier, the uni party has about four or five parties, so what's an extra one?
Like, you know, in terms of the alternative...
It's like Bosa, step over.
Yeah, step over.
Reform art, yeah.
Isn't Zia Yusuf an actual WEF? I've heard of him.
If Rupert could make a new party and just get in all the talents...
Oh, and there is so much right-wing talent left on the sidelines.
Get all the X ones that Farage has banished.
Well, it's not even that.
I mean, this media outfit as a start would throw our weight behind it.
We would support it.
Nigel has nothing to do with it.
He's never had anything to do with us.
You know, do you remember back in 2016, Trump was out there doing all the media himself.
He was going on all those podcasts.
By 20...
2024, he didn't need to because he had a whole network of people around him.
He was just sending out his generals to go out and do the media, but he built an operation and he built it at the ground level or the podcast level and then he sort of went outwards from there and he built a team.
Raj isn't doing any of that.
It would be cool if Rupert got the backing money-wise from Uncle Elon and then brought in...
Basically everyone that Farage has politically destroyed over the years.
I think that's what we need.
Genuinely, I think that's what we need.
Everyone from Bridgen to Starkey.
If you took in everybody that he's destroyed over the years, you'd be starting on day one with just a huge number of talented people.
An embarrassment of riches.
Anyway, we've run out of time.
We'd better do some of the comments.
The Binary Surfer says, I will say it again because it seems our side requires this lesson perennially.
Always one more time, nobody's coming to save us.
We are not voting our way out, at least any time soon.
Yes, that may well be true.
Glee777 says, here's my bet on Nigel going to the same mosque as King Charles.
Yes, possibly.
Lord of Nothing says, can't watch live, lads.
Just wants to let you know that I've got...
Good, thank you very much.
Let me see.
Yes, it does seem to be so.
Right, OK. That's you next, isn't it?
I will be back in just a moment.
Bless you.
We're in between segments now, so we can...
Yeah, so you can do that.
Sorry, boys and girls.
Hayfever season is dying here.
This bit's not on YouTube, so we can drop F-bombs everywhere.
Right, okay, go.
Okay, so it's just in the news cycle at the moment, a little bit about the absolute state of Birmingham.
The broader point I'm going to make here is it's not just Birmingham, but it's been in the news recently a little bit about how people that collect the refuge or the rubbish or the trash, as our American cousins would say, are going on strike.
Indefinitely, it looks like.
And it's already in a complete mess.
And it's just, even though it's sort of semi-interesting in and of itself, the politics of it, the process of what's going on, just the broader point, the broader sweep, you know, the broader sort of trend of descending into a third world shithole.
Right, yes.
Well, it's happening.
It's happening for our very eyes.
There's the old thing of diversity is a strength.
You know, is it?
I've never figured out for who.
Yeah, right.
Not in terms of public health, it's not.
Because Birmingham is absolutely riddled with vermin, literally rats.
Have you ever played that game where you go to Google Maps above India and you get that little yellow thing, the little yellow man, and you just drop it at random.
Street view.
Yeah, you just drop it at random anywhere on India and see how many times you can do that before you can't see a pile of rubbish wherever you land a pin.
And I've done it like 20 times and every time, oh yeah, there's a pile of rubbish.
I saw the meme of that.
Yeah.
Well, I've been to India once.
Yeah.
Yeah, once, yeah.
Only a stopover, but I did go outside the airport.
And I've been to a few places in sort of the third world, far east, and yeah, just they don't collect the rubbish properly.
Right?
I've been there as well.
Taxi drivers will just finish a can or a bottle and just toss it straight out the window.
Well, yeah, I do in places like Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam.
Yeah, it's just a river.
It's just completely choked with rubbish.
Or just at the end of the street.
Like in Cambodia, for example, the state doesn't collect rubbish.
You just dump it all at the end of your road and a giant pile of rubbish emerges there.
Giant.
And then lots of homeless and completely destitute people pick through it for anything they can find.
And we're nearly there.
But before we go on, I must mention Islander issue three.
Do buy it for the low, low price of £14.99.
It's filled with great articles.
Alright, so let's have a look then.
The BBC, first and foremost.
There you go.
The rubbish is alive!
Rats feast on Birmingham bin workers strike.
Sorry, rats feast as Birmingham bin workers strike.
So yeah, it's one thing that...
To be fair, I wouldn't have known if the bin guys were striking that week or not.
Yeah, it's true.
I went to Brighton.
Like, not too long ago.
Brighton had a massive problem, even though it was run by the Greens.
Famously run by the Greens.
How ironic.
Yeah, and they had that, but on, like, a scale where it was monumental, like, the rubbish across the streets, and it stunk the entire, like, streets out, and everyone was tweeting about it because, obviously, the Greens run it.
So, like you said, it doesn't look any different.
It's one thing that it's just a mess and stinks.
Sure.
But that's sort of the least of it.
Eventually, when it starts to rot, you'll get infestations of all types of vermin, but particularly rats.
And then you get disease.
And then you get things like cholera and plague and typhus and typhoid, if it goes long enough.
That's why countries like India or Bangladesh or whatever.
Lots of the third world.
They still have these types of diseases.
There'll be a breakout of cholera.
We used to have those.
Yeah, because you've poisoned your water table or whatever.
We used to have those sort of problems in this country about 250 years ago.
And then we became civilised.
And it's weird that something is happening now that is causing us to become aggressive.
Interesting that particularly Birmingham seems to be, inner city Birmingham, seems to be the poster boy for this.
Well, of course, their councillors are...
They're on strike.
First or second generation immigrants.
Oops.
There you go.
Atlak Mohamed, Shema Ahmed, Gerdiel Atwal, Raqib Aziz.
These are the people that are councillors for Birmingham.
Very typical Birmingham names.
Labour.
It's a Labour-run council.
And just a complete...
The complete dereliction of duty.
The idea that you keep things nice and neat and clean.
You spend a lot of energy and time keeping things neat and clean.
Spick and span, the right tool for the right job.
All that sort of, the mindset of that.
I've actually worked as a bin man.
Really?
Have you?
It was only for one day.
But I was doing some consulting with a local government and there was an issue that was relating to the operations of the bin thing.
And I said, okay, well, before I get into the business side of it, I want to spend a day on the trucks.
And actually, it's quite an interesting job because you've got like a little team of three guys.
So there's good banter.
You move around.
It's outdoors.
It's active.
It's probably not the career I would have chosen.
But actually, I mean, it's good on its work.
It's proper good on its work.
It's important.
Yeah, you're doing an important role.
It's a service.
To stave off typhus.
For God's sake.
The BBC interviewed this one guy, Abu Shah, in the middle of Birmingham.
He said, people are leaving their bins anywhere and everywhere.
Oh, are they?
Oh, they couldn't possibly do anything else.
He literally says, he literally said that there's, I've got no choice.
There's no other choice but to just leave your rubbish on the street.
Well, there is a choice.
Have some goddamn self-respect and take it to a dump yourself or something.
No, just leave it on the street until it piles up and it's completely alive with rats and then disease.
That's your only option, is it?
Yeah.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
So am I right in saying that the union have ordered a strike of some sort?
So this is the reason why it's all piling up?
Is that correct?
So the people that have run Birmingham City Council for a long time have run the budgets into the ground, have completely mismanaged their budgets and haven't got enough money anymore.
Apparently they're like in the hole, in the red to the tune of 150 million or something.
So they're trying to save money by paying bin men less.
Their budget would have gone on patronage for people that they like for one reason or another.
Or just corruption.
Well, that's basically exactly what I'm saying, yeah.
Either way, they've mismanaged it to the tune of millions and millions, tens of millions of pounds, more than £100 million.
And the weird thing is, with local government, people would rather chop everything else apart from the bins.
It's like the one thing that people actually want, and of course, that's where they start with their cuts.
Well, this is the thing.
When you enter a new city, perhaps a new liberated city in a war zone or something, the very, very first things you always have to do is sort of manage the dead bodies, because you really will get terrible diseases then.
Manage the dead bodies, sort out the water supply, clean water supply, and clean up the streets of rubbish and trash.
That's like 101. That's like you're not even living in a city if you're not doing these things.
It's so fundamental, and they're failing even at that.
Rats are slowly getting into them, the rubbish piles, and opening them up.
You can see nappies coming out of the bags.
Oh, right, okay.
It's just going to get worse and worse.
Oh, is it?
Okay.
Someone needs to do something about it and come up with an agreement.
Oh, just someone.
It's not their responsibility.
It's not the people that actually live there, apparently, but whatever.
Just someone somewhere needs to do something.
There's already a rat infestation.
Yeah, it's not good.
There's definitely an infestation in Birmingham.
Pest control specialists have seen a spike in calls since the one-day walkout started.
When I look at that image, go to that image just below there.
If I was living in that house there...
I'd be like...
I would load it all into the back of my car and take it down the tip.
You'd do something where you knock on the neighbours as well.
You'd say, look, this is getting a bit much.
Should we do something about this?
Like a community.
That would be taken care of in an afternoon, no problem.
Yeah.
I hate it even when there's a bin in someone's kitchen and it's sort of full up and someone just balances something else on top of it.
Yeah, I know.
I cringe at that.
I hate even that.
I would not tolerate that if that was outside my house.
I would spend a bit of my own money and time to sort that out.
At least...
Okay, so they're just talking about how there are rats in front and back gardens gaining access because of the bins being left out.
We're going to be inundated with them.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, it is a bit unbelievable, yeah.
Oh gosh, holding up a...
Wow, that's a...
What's that?
Is that a rat?
Yeah, it's a rat.
That's a rat?
Yeah, yeah.
Big ones, well fed.
Like a hyrax.
Well fed.
Yeah, like a possum.
Rats the size of a possum.
Just say it's in the news, like Birmingham reporting on it, the strikes.
And I think, I believe at the moment, the line is anyway, that it's an indefinite strike.
Indefinite?
Yeah.
Yeah, beginning, indefinite strike.
That's real strike action, that is.
But it's like, you can't treat us like this.
What has it changed?
Because, you know, nobody wanted to go to Birmingham in the first place.
Yeah.
But the thing is, even though it's in the news a little bit about Birmingham specifically, actually it's all over the country.
It's a lot of places you go, a lot of inner cities that have been...
Colonised by first and second generation immigrants.
A lot of the inner cities.
It's the same story.
And all their councillors are Labour, basically foreign people.
As you explained with your travels, in a lot of part of the world, Southeast Asia, it is simply normal to throw rubbish on the streets or out your car window or whatever.
It's just how they live.
Yeah.
Well, there's the old adage, isn't there?
The old cliche that if you import the third world, you become the third world.
It's actually true.
When you don't ask people to assimilate properly, to actually take on our values, I know that's a hot topic about values, but just the very concept that you don't shit where you eat.
Just that.
Can we ask you not to pile up trash outside your own home?
You're basically asking for civilization step one.
Most people probably got anecdotal evidence.
I know for a fact that a couple of different places I've lived.
Once some new people, shall we say, moved in, I've literally lived in a block of flats where they just throw their rubbish off their balcony.
And it accumulates at the bottom underneath their balcony.
Stuff like that.
Crazy, crazy stuff.
It boils down to respect, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's the thing.
Don't have respect for the country.
Never had any respect for it.
So London, for example, same sort of thing in London.
This article is actually a few years old, but nothing's changed.
A couple of years old, but nothing's changed.
I remember going, that's just, you know London, right?
That's just normal.
That's pretty normal.
It wasn't normal when I was living there.
That was only five or six years ago.
It wasn't normal 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
Absolutely not.
But now, yeah, that's just normal.
I don't know where that is, but that could easily be somewhere like Whitechapel or something.
I remember going on Tower Hamlets, right.
I remember going on a Jess Gill Whitechapel.
And again, Tower Hamlets of the 1950s, you know, the local community would have come out and dealt with that in an afternoon.
Yeah, well.
But there is no community anymore.
Well, there is a community and they don't respect civilisation.
She's lying about it as well, right?
I went on a Jess Gill tweet, this is months and months ago, and she said something about this, saying, I think it was in Whitechapel, the market at Whitechapel.
Or is it?
Yeah, something like that.
And it was just these types of scenes.
And for the start off, people were saying, it's not true.
It's all fake.
You're like, well...
Here's the images.
These aren't photoshopped images.
Then they pivot to, oh, it's a market.
After any market day, there's that sort of refuge.
You're like, well, not really.
I grew up in and around Romford.
I know markets.
Yeah, not really, a bit.
A few crates for a few hours after the market, but that's about it.
But this is there sort of permanently, semi-permanently, so that doesn't hold up.
And then it's just you're racist.
So it's like, it's not happening.
It is, but it's not.
Faking some of the details and then, okay, but you're just racist.
So it's just nonsense.
And again, it's not just the mess and the smell.
This sort of thing very quickly becomes a matter of public health.
Yeah, issue.
Yeah, it's not something to just ignore.
Oh, look at that.
Isn't that just all over the place?
Yeah.
All the big cities in England.
I like that somewhere, somewhere or other.
And it's like, this is new.
This is new.
It's depressing, isn't it?
And so you would think, well, it's not just England.
I had a conversation with Benjamin Boyce the other day and we talked about this a little bit.
And I said, well, look at San Francisco or many cities in the US, similar sort of thing.
The US equivalent of the council or councillors, you think, okay, well, it's their responsibility then to spend a bit more logistics and money to clear it up.
Well, no, they're not prepared to.
They don't want to.
They don't care.
You must prioritise things such as these first over anything else, really, to avoid a public health crisis.
Oh, gosh.
It's depressing.
It is, isn't it?
It's so depressing.
Really depressing.
Isn't that just normal now?
Yeah, unfortunately.
I hate to say it.
Endless.
Endless.
So, okay.
It compares so well to those...
Oh my gosh, what's...
Top right?
London rubbish.
And it's like, just to make this point, it's not just like the odd picture that we found over the last few years.
This is like...
I think that's a shop.
I'm pretty sure that's a Photoshop.
Might not be.
Surely.
But no, something like this.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Or that, just completely normal.
And it's not that these are just the exceptions to the rule.
I've typed in London rubbish and sure, you can find images of...
No, believe us, that is just the norm all over certain parts of London.
Do you ever do that thing where you go and watch footage of London in the 1950s?
Yeah.
Just look at it and think something has been lost.
Oh, absolutely.
The thing is, you don't even have to go back to the 50s.
You can go back to the 80s.
You can go back to 2002. Yes.
Right?
It's not that long ago.
In fact, I saw a side-by-side thing the other day and it was Chinatown, you know, just off Soho, just north of Piccadilly, Leicester Square, sorry.
Yeah, and there was like an image, I think it was like 2004, 2005, and then it was 2025. And one was normal, nice, clean, tidy, the way it always used to be.
And the other one just looked like some sort of open tip.
I feel bad for the Zoomers because they just missed seeing what civilization looks like.
In fact, I've often maintained the view that...
When the 2008 London Olympics closed, we should have just closed the whole of London at the same time.
I just said, right, we're done.
We're packing it up.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a crying shame, really, but nothing that can't be reversed.
With the right leadership, political will.
Oh, gosh.
So, like, this is in India.
It's sort of unbelievable, isn't it?
So, for those who are listening, Beau is playing us a literal, River of garbage, as best I can say.
I mean, I can't actually see any water, but I think there is a river under there.
Once a river, yeah.
Again, you think, oh, well, this is an exception.
It's just a particularly bad case.
It can't be like that all over India.
No, no, we've been to India.
It is.
Yeah.
The closest I've been is Nepal, and it's quite similar, I must say.
Yeah.
In Kathmandu, anyway.
Yeah.
Nepal used to be some sort of pristine mountain paradise and now Kathmandu is just a dive.
Yeah, it was...
It's the culture, isn't it?
It's a culture of filth, essentially.
Yeah, just not doing the correct thing.
Like, you know, have you ever noticed this?
I think I've talked about this before.
When you go to a foreign country and you look up at how they've done their telephone lines, telephone wires, and power wires, right?
And you go to somewhere like Britain, Australia, Canada, the United States, even France usually, and it's all squared away nice and neat.
Everything's done correctly.
And then you go to somewhere like...
Spain or even Italy, southern Italy, and it's all a bit slapdash and a bit thrown together.
And then you go to somewhere like Thailand or India, and it's a complete insane mess.
An insane mess of nonsense going on with their telephone lines and power lines.
I mean, I met a guy not so long ago who, a few years ago, his 20-year-old son was killed on a trip to India simply because a live wire just fell off one of the poles, swung across, hit him.
Electrocuted him.
Because it had just been so slapdash done.
I once worked with and knew someone, a lovely woman she was.
Absolutely lovely woman.
So lovely that she decided to dedicate her summer to just helping out in India.
How did that go?
She got dysentery and died.
Right.
Yeah.
Why did you get dysentery?
You shouldn't have dysentery.
It's because it's filthy.
It's because it's filthy.
Okay, and that's what we're getting here now.
And there's this old saying that, oh, you just don't want to, you're just a racist, you're just a bigot, you just don't want to, you just can't stand living near brown people.
Some nonsense like that.
No, I don't want dysentery and cholera to be normalized.
I don't want giant mountains of trash to be normalized.
Also, there's actually nothing wrong with wanting to live in a homogeneous British society either.
Right, yeah, no, absolutely, fair point.
Yeah, yeah, in and of itself, right.
So you've just got to live with it now.
This is just how modern Britain is.
It's just disgusting and smelly and riddled with rats and disease.
And don't notice it.
Certainly don't notice it.
And if you do, keep your mouth shut.
Don't talk about it.
Certainly not on camera or on the internet.
That would be beyond the pale.
That would be something that Hope Not Hate would probably moan about or whatever.
Oh, I see what this segment is now.
You're just trying to get a page in the next Hope Not Hate Report.
Oh, I'm going to up the ante.
My next segment, because I want a page in the Hope Not Hate Report.
I think I'm firmly on their radar already, to be perfectly honest.
Right, it's on.
You and I, we've got a year to see which of us can get a full page spread in Hope Not Hate Report.
It's on.
Okay.
Challenge accepted.
No, so the thing is, I suppose, the takeaway on this is that we are descending on every level into all the problems that plague the third world, including plague.
And it won't be all that long.
If it keeps going on before we do have serious, serious public health issues because of this, it's not just being a bit miffed.
There's loads of bin bags at the end of the street.
It's more important that it's bigger than that.
No, we just like to see basic civilisational standards.
Basic 101 stuff, yeah.
Right, if you want to do some of those comments, I am going to curse the allergy gods again.
Okay.
Let's see, what have we got here?
Are all these for me?
Alright then, so, bald eagles.
Sorry?
No, we've got to read them all.
BaldEagle1787 said, At this point, the Dark Lord Sauron is more reliable and believable than Farage.
At least the Dark Lord follows through on what he says he's going to do.
Fair point.
Is that Tony Blair?
Yeah.
Binary Surfer says, Most local councils are screwed financially, likely to be 25%...
What's YOY council tax?
Oh, year on year, council tax rises in many areas from next year on.
Yeah.
I particularly despise paying council tax.
You know, I pay, obviously, all my debts, all my taxes, everything.
It's annoying when your energy bill keeps going up and up and up.
But the one I particularly resent is council tax.
One, that it's so high.
Two, that you don't get anything for it.
And three, that they keep ramping it up massively.
Yeah, like a 25% increase.
I think Swindon Council are going to do something in that order.
I think I got an email the other day saying, remember, there's going to be 20, 25% or something in that order, increase.
25%?
Something like that.
I can't remember the number, but it's in that ballpark.
It wasn't just like 2%.
It's like, for what?
For no police?
Is that what I'm paying for?
Oh, it will be going on adult welfare payments.
So basically single mums.
That's what it will be going on.
And housing all the first generation sub-Saharan Africans that have flooded the town.
Yep.
Weirdly.
Why is there a permagang of sub-Saharan Africans in the middle of Swindon?
What's that about?
Boys Johnson and...
You don't seem to work.
You don't seem to have any jobs.
Because they're there at all times of the day.
Oh yeah, they're clearly not working.
Just milling around.
Don't notice that.
Don't mention that.
Okay.
Better not.
White Rider says, imagine Rupert goes his own way with his own party built with Elon's money and the people too based for reform.
He becomes Minister for Safeguarding Culture and Deportations.
I'll take that.
I'll take that.
I'll be...
That would be good.
A new department for re-migration.
Yeah.
Every day just come into the office, slap this over and say those are rookie numbers.
I can do a...
Yeah.
I can do a ho-man on the department.
For real.
Okay.
What's that?
The Habisfaction says, it's becoming the 1970s Britain all over again.
The rubbish is piling up and it's only a matter of time before we start getting brownouts and blackouts again.
It's like the 1970s.
Actually, that is a good point.
In the 70s, briefly, there were all sorts of problems, weren't there, with power, even, as well as rubbish collection.
And all sorts of things.
But that was a specific sort of economic downturn.
This wasn't because we'd been flooded by millions of people who aren't particularly interested.
I mean, the seeds of it were starting to happen then, but it wasn't full-fledged.
And it was easily reversed, right?
It wasn't like some...
Well, it's still easily reversible today with a bit of political will.
Ramshaka Water says, inner-city terraced houses used to smell of carbolic soap.
The front step would be scrubbed so clean you could eat your dinner off of it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that used to be a bit of a cliche, didn't it?
Like an extremely fastidious housewife scrubbing the front step.
That was a cliche.
Like ironing your tea towels.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When we had standards as a nation.
Okay.
DRT is King said, got the copy of Islander 3 before my issue of Islander 2. Love you guys from Chile, Florida.
Sorry about the Islander 2 thing, but we've sorted all that out now, hopefully.
Yeah, I think the Islander 2, we are assured that they are still going through.
They're just, what a debacle.
Yeah.
What a debacle.
Right, before we begin, I've just realised, instead of...
I'm so sorry, Sansom.
Instead of this particular article, can we use the BBC's posting of this article on Twitter?
It's exactly the same.
It should be...
It might take them a while to find it.
Yeah, okay, no problem.
But we could do a brief opening.
So, this segment...
is not going to be on the tube for obvious reasons because of the spicy contents of speaking about COVID and that particular era.
I like it already.
So, the BBC recently posted an article that they've written on Twitter.
This one.
Saying, share your memories of lockdown as UK set to mark COVID day of reflection.
I reflect on the madness of COVID every day.
Indeed.
Indeed.
And this backfired on the BBC whilst posting that.
So I thought we would do our reflection on this era and remember kind of the madness that ensued during that time and the after effects of not only government manipulation,
but also Disastrous policies that have echoed even now, and still yet to echo, not just in Britain but throughout the world, but we're going to focus mainly on Britain because this is BBC UK. So I thought...
We would basically have an open conversation and then just go through some of the stuff.
Okay, my main reflection on COVID is that every day since, I have wanted every politician involved, every public health minister, every journalist who pushed that madness, I want them imprisoned.
And I'm saying imprisoned because I can't say put up a wall against a wall and shot.
Because it was insane.
Absolutely insane.
It is the most offensive, egregious...
You know, peacetime atrocity that governments have ever committed.
It was...
Absolutely bloody mental.
They sort of locked us away and engaged in this psychological warfare.
They turned people against other people.
You know, you go down to the shops and you'd have to have three...
I mean, I didn't mind because I quite like arguments, but you'd have to have three arguments with people as to why you weren't wearing a bloody mask or something or going the right way around with the sodding arrows or something.
I hated it.
It drove me mad.
I mean, I thought I had a strong mental constitution, but two years of being shut away and bombarded with that crap for two years, I mean...
It really pushed me to the edge.
So, all in all, I don't remember it fondly.
Yeah, I remember being put under house arrest, essentially.
I remember having to queue up for a one-in-one-out at Tesco's.
I remember the Queen having to sit alone at the funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh.
I remember being told that I'd quite possibly have to get a vaccine in order to get on a train.
Yeah, I remember being put under house arrest on the strength of a liar.
I remember Nana Akuna advocating for forced vaccines, coming round your house, coming into your home, pinning you down and forcing you to take the vaccine.
Yeah, I remember that, yeah.
I remember our economy being absolutely tanked.
I remember being told that the hospitals were flooded and then physically going there and finding it a ghost ship.
I remember that.
I remember the unbelievable liars.
And I shan't forget.
No, no, I remember being told you're now under a type of house arrest.
So, if you remember or have a reflection on a particular thing that happened, send in a super chat if you would like.
And, well, we can read them out after the segment.
If there's any particularly good ones, I'll read them out as we go.
Absolutely, yeah.
But here's one.
Well, I decided to post this.
Just a brief list.
And, you know, it got some traction because I think it's still so raw in a lot of people's minds because it was only, well, I say five years ago.
It's quite a long time, really.
Half a decade.
Fifteen years' time, I'm still going to remember it.
Absolutely.
This was all off the top of my head.
I was about to get on a train.
Well, a significant portion of the population was treated like second-class citizens over a medical choice.
That first came to mind.
The entire country was bombarded with military-grade psychological operations to push a single narrative.
Don't question it.
If you question it, you're a conspiracy theorist.
A granny killer, quite and quite.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, yeah.
You're a granny killer.
It's unsafe.
What, you want the old people to die?
Yeah.
Is that what you want?
Awful.
What?
Journalists being spied on by the state for expressing anti-lockdown views, which we'll get into, dismissed as a conspiracy theorist, again, for suggesting a link between the mRNA vaccines and increased risks of heart attacks, strokes, and cancers, and are now...
Being openly discussed.
Well, I remember being called a conspiracy theorist for reminding people what the government said three weeks earlier.
Yeah.
Bridgen was good on this, wasn't he?
Very good.
He was very, very good.
Very, very good.
And do you remember at one point, those who refused the vaccines were banned from restaurants, pubs and public places.
You had to walk in a certain way.
You had to have a mask on to arrive into the restaurant or establishment.
But when you sat down, you can take it off and eat.
Oh, if you need the toilet, though, you have to put it back on, then walk.
I remember going to a pub and they said, when you go sit at your table, you can have your mask off.
When you come to the bar to order anything else, you have to put your mask on.
I said to her, that's nonsense though, isn't it?
And the shock on her, like, what?
How is it?
What?
I mean, I remember, this is a recollection, that in France they'd made it so that you couldn't get on the train without showing your passport, your vaccine passport.
You couldn't.
That's what they did in France.
Yes.
And they were going to bring it in.
It was over the Christmas time, just before it all ended.
They were going to bring that in in England.
And I was going back and forth on the train all the time at that point.
And I'd made my mind up long ago, two years before that, that there's no way I'm having that vaccine.
You're going to have to get two or three guys to pin me to a gurney before I'm letting that in my body.
So there's no way.
So I started to think, right, what am I going to do?
How am I going to get out of this bind?
And then the whole narrative collapsed and they stopped saying you need to wear masks or have any vaccine or anything.
It just sort of all collapsed very, very quickly.
Do you remember that?
I'll tell you what this crushed for me the most.
It's my view of the normies.
Because I remember when this all started, I was looking at it and thinking, yeah, this won't last three months because people will see through how ridiculous it is.
It then went on for two years.
And I was like, how the hell are the normies?
Still believing this.
It was obvious from the start that it was complete and utter nonsense.
And it just fundamentally lowered my opinion of my fellow human being, that they were duped so easily for so long.
The number of Karens that will scoff at you or even tick you off or certainly give you a death stare for sort of wearing your mask.
He's not clapping on the Thursdays or whatever it was, on the Wednesdays.
He's not out with his pots and pans.
Oh, he's a granny killer.
He's this, he's that, quote-unquote.
Awful.
Sad stuff.
But there were some other things that people remembered.
During the lockdown era, we couldn't even mourn loved ones properly.
We don't have to play with sound for this particular one.
But remembered being...
I mean, you can see it there.
Just being sat apart.
And if you even...
I think this is the video.
Where someone goes to comfort someone because clearly they're distressed.
It's a funeral.
And to give them...
And then people were like, started doing it.
Oh no, you're straying away from the rules.
How dare you?
And people started doing it.
No, no, no.
Stop that.
No, can't be doing that.
Disgusting thing.
That pathetic little man there.
Yeah, yeah.
The thing is, this is a famous example because it was caught on camera.
There were also instances of basically children dying in hospital and they couldn't have their parents with them.
And the staff, the small-minded, twatty little normies working in those hospitals would stop the parents from going in to be with their dying child.
Care homes.
Care homes as well.
Normies.
I hate them.
Remember the image of the Queen sitting in West Strabby at Prince Philip's funeral?
She was sort of all alone there.
Yeah, it was horrible.
So even the monarch, even the sovereign, wasn't immune to the narrative.
Yeah, I mean, I made two or three sort of protests against it.
For example, there was even the people that controlled this building at the time they wanted you to wear your mask.
And quite often I'd wear it below my nose.
I never wore it.
Again, it was nonsense.
Once you're in an office, you don't have to wear it.
But when you're in the communal lift or the corridor, you're supposed to wear it.
And some sort of pressure was put on me to try and do that.
And I just ignored it.
I just ignored it.
Or had stiff words with the chap, actually.
Or I got sick of the one-in-one-out light system in the Tesco's.
In the end, I'd ignore it and just walk in.
And yeah, the security guard or a few people in the queue would tut or say something like, you know, who do you think you are?
Just ignore it.
Just ignoring it.
No, no, I'm going to walk in this 90% empty Tesco's and start buying whatever I want, thanks.
You know, I'm just going to ignore this nonsense, this pressure you're trying to put on us over nothing.
That's how we have to do it again if it comes to it.
So here's a couple of examples of some of the...
Well, I would call it military-grade propaganda.
Look him in the eyes and tell him you really can't work from home.
Look her in the eyes and tell her your face covers your nose and mouth.
When it came out, even on mainstream media at the time, I forgot his name, that particular doctor.
Hillary, was it?
Dr. Hillary or something?
Who said about masks immediately, like the first thing he said was, well, the masks have holes that are big enough for particles to even travel through anyway, so there's no point.
And then he had to reverse what he was saying and started shilling it again, like a day after.
But people remember that.
And I actually had a relative who had been a doctor and I remember them saying to me that the reason they wore masks in surgery is because if they cough or something or there's any sort of, you know, sneeze, anything like that, is to stop basically large particulates of fluid getting from the doctor into the wound.
And I remember them saying to me, and when COVID started, I said to them...
Do you remember what you said to me about a year or so ago about that?
And they just basically flipped on it.
It's like...
Then they changed.
Mental gymnastics.
It's like...
I don't know.
The mask thing was always complete nonsense.
For a start, people seem to confuse whether it's about that you're ill when you're going to give it to other people or the other way around.
Of course, it's the first one.
It's not about...
It's not about saving...
Like, I'm safer if I'm wearing my mask.
No, no.
No.
It's not an air...
It's not a tight...
Seal over your mouth.
There's a real mask, like a real respirator thing, if you're spraying a car, where it actually creates a seal, a proper seal, and you've got four air filters, right?
That's an actual, like an actual gas mask.
These little fabric nappy thing, face nappies, it's nothing.
It's stupid.
The narrative was that this thing...
The air can get in and out all round it.
So what is it?
The narrative was that this thing had escaped a stage 4 biolab and that we could defeat it by cutting up a bit of t-shirt and wearing it round our mouth.
Yeah.
Wiping down your post.
Bernie posted saying, "Covid Day of Reflection, "I'm reflecting on thousands of accounts suspended by Twitter "for spreading the truth." And she put, "It's illogical to push the narrative "that the vaccinated are protected from COVID, "but not protected from the unvaccinated.
"It's also dense." But you know that, right?
And it's about vaccine passports as well.
Yeah, so many accounts.
Banned, shadowbanned.
And, you know, people denied that shadow banning was ever a thing, but it was clearly obvious.
Certain words, if they slipped through and they weren't blurted out, I still do that out of habit now.
Even though that they've laxed on all of that, I still, like, censor words out of habit because of that.
Because you knew that the only way to get through to people is just by getting rid of some words or, you know, blacking out some of the words.
And I still do that.
I still do that.
A lot of people were saying coof, weren't they?
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
They called it the coof.
Because if you said COVID, then the algo would pick up.
The algo would be mental.
Well, we have to self-censor in all sorts of ways, don't we?
Not just about the coof.
About lots and lots of different things.
We self-censor or use irony or sarcasm or dog whistles or redirection or various things to get the point across because you're not allowed to say the actual word, the banned word, the wrong speak, the wrong think.
What a world we're living in.
You're not allowed to say that vaccines kill people.
And they did.
A little bit of hope.
Somebody in the comments has said that he was a manager of a gym during the pandemic and he had to register every client as either vaxxed or unvaxxed and refuse the unvaxxed.
But he didn't do it.
He just, you know, voided the system.
So there are some people who stood up in a little way to the various bits of this nonsense.
Do you remember that the government...
Incinerated or written off £1.4 billion worth of COVID PPE provided by one supplier in the summer of 2020. It is the single most wasteful public contract of the whole pandemic.
If we could just play the little video, it doesn't have sound.
£1.4 billion on one contract.
What ministers and civil servants and bureaucrats were involved in making that decision?
Who's on the board or who owns that company?
They're all probably working for the UN now.
Look at that.
You should be able to see that from space.
Yeah.
Look at that.
That's insane.
This is a whole thread as well.
What a weird couple of panicky, ridiculous years.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Another recollection I've got, swings to mind, is it was very early on and it was what made my mind up to not get the vaccination.
Because in the first few days or the first week...
I, like probably the vast majority of people, bought it.
It was like, oh yeah, there's been pandemics in the world.
Look at the 1919 influenza pandemic.
It's possible that's a thing.
It's possible that something's gone awry in China and now there's a bird flu pandemic.
Okay, maybe I need to get this vaccine.
I'll start thinking about it, looking about it.
I remember quite soon, within a week or two of it, they'd given the vaccine to everyone on one of our nuclear submarines, or everyone in the Navy.
And the story was that everyone on this nuclear submarine had now got COVID. Right.
Everyone, every single one of them.
And it was like, so wait, so it's not a vaccine then?
Or if it is, it doesn't work.
So I'm suspicious of what that chemical is.
I'm probably not going to put it in myself.
And my suspicions and concerns only grew from there.
So it was almost right away.
It was like, yeah, but this vaccine you're talking about, it doesn't work, though.
So it isn't a vaccine to all intents and purposes.
No.
Indeed.
Yeah, how did the normies keep buying it for years and years?
Some still do, right?
Some still do.
Do you remember the TikTok dances?
Yeah.
Could we play just that without the sound?
These are really surreal because the whole time while this is going on, I'm thinking people are going to see through this nonsense any minute and they didn't.
And then the TikTok dances started coming out and I'm like, okay, surely now people are going to figure out that this is a scam.
And this wasn't just Britain.
This was...
Around the world, like, a lot of people in lots of countries were all doing it as well.
Because, of course, if anyone doesn't remember, if it's not really obvious, the narrative at the exact same time is that the hospitals are flooded.
Yes, that's it.
Don't go to hospital.
It was concentrated.
Unless you've got a real, real A&E issue, do not go to hospital because they're absolutely inundated and flooded.
Yes.
But this, though, at the same time, the exact same time.
It was bizarre.
But they've got the time to...
Do all these choreographed dances.
Clearly, it's because nothing was happening in those hospitals.
It was all concentrated and specific to shape the narrative, clearly.
And remember, they did kill people deliberately because there were people.
I mean, I remember one example of this guy posting.
He's a young guy with two small children and his wife had a cancer.
And basically, she was getting this cancer treatment, which because of the COVID panic, they decided to cancel.
And she died.
So you've now got this young guy and these two small children without a mother.
You want to know the craziest thing?
Is the treatment that she was getting was home administered.
All that happened is a courier would drop off the treatment and then she would basically do it herself.
And that was what they cancelled.
They cancelled even that?
Even that.
You know, honestly, I want people put up against the wall for this.
Well, again, anecdotal evidence or...
Or our personal recollections.
I was living near Rumpford at the time.
My local big hospital was the one in Rumpford.
What is it?
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital?
Relatively new, big hospital.
And I've been there a number of times over the years anyway.
My mother had some treatment there.
So I knew this hospital reasonably well and it wasn't very far.
It was a fairly long walk from where I lived.
And they were saying...
That all the hospitals are completely inundated.
Don't go unless you've got a real A&E issue.
And I was suspicious.
I'd heard things here and there that it's not the case.
I was like, okay, I'm actually going to physically go there and see it with my own eyeballs.
It's not cordoned off by like a police cordon.
I can go up to the hospital, go in.
I'm going to see it with my own eyes.
And I went there and it was beyond dead.
I mean, there was no one there.
It's got a massive atrium, massive thing.
And there's no one there.
There's like a receptionist woman, but beyond that.
No, and it's usually a bustling thing.
And it's like, it couldn't have been more of a lie.
Not only was it a liar, it was huge.
I mentioned earlier in my post about the spying.
RAF intelligence officers joined Whitehall and Army in spying on COVID lockdown critics, including David Davis and Peter Hitchens.
This was a very famous story, 2023. David Davis was, at the time, One of the very few MPs that were actually saying something about lockdowns, but then he did pivot later on, which was such a shame.
He only went so far.
And obviously Peter Hitchens, very famous about speaking out against the lockdowns, but even him, I believe, pivoted later on.
Well, he did get the vaccine himself.
Yes, he did.
The only one I can think of who, and he wasn't even mainstream media at that point, was James Dunningpole, the only journalist in the country who was against it from beginning to end and didn't get vaccinated.
Yeah.
Insane.
Campaign group, Big Brother Watch, last night branded Whitehall's use of military personnel and attack on freedom of speech and behaviour befitting an authoritarian state.
Couldn't have said that any better, really.
Yeah, it was a very, very strange time.
Yeah, talk about authoritarian state.
They curtailed our liberties.
Yeah.
Again, it's no exaggeration to say it was a type of house arrest.
A type of house arrest.
I mean, there's no precedent for that.
I was saying this at the time.
Even during the Black Death, the great pestilence, the great dying of 1348 to 1449, the Black Death, there was no sort of, in small pockets, there was sort of a self-imposed kind of lockdown.
But the state never mandated that you're not allowed out of your home.
Even then.
So yeah, authoritarian.
And of course the state did not have the power to enforce it, so that's why they propagandized people so much.
Because they turned all the idiot normies into enforcers.
Deputized the Karen class.
Yeah, exactly.
And that was the whole tedious problem that I had during that period, because I refused to go along with one iota.
Of any of this stuff.
So every time I went to the shops, I'd have some Karen at me.
And, you know, sometimes I'd argue with them.
Sometimes I'd just look at them and just see their vacant, glassy eyes and just realise that this person does not have the mental firepower to engage with a single thing that I'm going to say.
So I'm just going to make sheep noises as I barge past and basically ignore them.
That's what I ended up doing, just ignoring it.
Just ignoring you.
Yeah, some Karen moaning that you're not wearing a mask in Tesco's or something.
The worst one were the people who had a little bit of power.
Yes.
Because they loved it.
Oh yeah, because they loved it.
It was just like, it was like what you would read out of Soviet Russia or, you know, reading Solzhenitsyn.
They got straight on.
And people noticed that, like, you know, people that were very critics at the time and you post about that and then more stories came out of people doing exactly the same.
behavioural nudge.
And we know about the nudge units that were set up over that time.
Oh, I say set up.
They were already there.
But they were hyper-focused on curtailing that particular narrative.
This is the exact moment when this came out very, very early on that made me realise something was wrong.
This is exactly it.
So James Melville posts, one of the most disingenuous aspects of the government's COVID messaging was the manipulation of statistics.
In particular, deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test.
So remember they were doing the ticker with the death rates?
And then they had it in the small print, as you can see there.
Deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test.
The most absurd example that I remember from this is a guy in Florida had a positive test.
And then two weeks later, he came off his motorbike.
Yes, I read about that.
And he went in the statistics.
Yes, as a COVID guy.
So it's insane.
So you could get a positive test and then be eaten by a shark, and you would go down as a COVID. Yes, yeah.
And I remember I sat with...
We're not friends now, but unfortunately, because of that, and because of the move into journalism and politics, because of all of this, this is what...
You know, pushed me into the sphere of me.
That's what radicalised me.
And I remember sitting at their house and we were watching the news, watching the ticker just before Boris Johnson announced the lockdowns where we were seeing all the numbers rise and rise and rise.
And then I saw the print, that, and the reporter explaining that.
And I went, hang on a minute.
So how do we know which one was a COVID death and which one wasn't?
And I remember saying that to my friends.
They didn't even, it didn't register.
They didn't want it to.
It would have bounced off.
And I'm sitting there pulling my hair out going, well, that's wrong then.
So what is the real number?
This is something I spotted in the first couple of weeks, and this was when I first started tweeting, because I didn't have a presence at all until this started.
And one of the first things I sort of tweeted out is because right at the beginning of this whole thing, because they obviously knew it was a pandemic, they obviously knew something was coming, right in the first few days of this thing starting to be a thing, they changed the way that coroners do their death reporting, so that basically they didn't even need to see the patient, they could just ring up.
If there's like a death in a nursing home, We could just ring up somebody at the nursing home and have a quick chat with them down the phone and then mark it down as COVID without even seeing the patient.
And so I pointed out that actually the only thing that you can possibly trust on these statistics is not the COVID reporting, but the entire death rate, the total death rate, because that's the only number that they can't fix.
And so I then started reporting on that from time to time.
What has the entire death rate done?
And it was basically normal.
In fact, if anything, it was those two years slightly below average in terms of total death rate.
We remember as well a lot of people, pundits, whether it be media personalities, journalists, hosts of shows, said some things that were pretty bizarre during that time, very emotionally fuelled, which that's down to, of course, the...
The nudge units pushing and pushing and pushing and...
Well, if we could just play this one just with the sound on, if that's okay.
Sound on.
Sorry, it is on.
Yes.
That has enabled all these players to mince around on football pitches for...
£12 billion a week.
At the end, Angela, we either allow this or we end up holding people down and jabbing them by force.
No, you see, it's so...
So there was some out-of-pocket stuff like that, which did not sit well with a lot of people.
And it was just...
It was sad, really.
It was really sad and disappointing to see a lot of people.
I'm obviously no fan of Jeremy Vine, obviously, but...
Mildly.
Well, as you said at the beginning, I remember Nana Akuna on GB News.
Making that argument.
Just explicitly, I think she was doing just a bit to camera, saying, yeah, do that, yeah.
I might have seen that somewhere.
Can't find the clip for Love of the Money now.
Right.
It's been yeety, I can't find it anyway.
But I remember it, it's in my memory banks.
Saying, yeah, people should be forced to.
We need to save the old people.
What does this guy say?
So, can we play this one as well?
This is still up.
Well, it's Monday the 4th of January, the first normal working day of the year.
I've just listened minutes ago to Boris Johnson's statement to the nation, and we are going back into a full lockdown in England.
Parliament will debate this and vote on it.
On Wednesday, the Labour Party support it, so there's no question it's going to happen, and indeed Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland very much in the same place.
Listen carefully to what Boris Johnson had to say.
The schools will be closed until...
The mid-February half term.
By which time he said, if all goes well, and as a following wind, people over 70 and those that are vulnerable will have received the vaccine.
But he said it takes three weeks for that to really kick in.
So he hopes the schools can go back shortly after that date.
Effectively, what he's saying is that we're locked down until early March.
Things go well.
Now, one of the arguments for this is, of course, the soaring number of people testing positive.
But perhaps what really worries him is there are 40% more people in hospital as COVID cases right now than there were back at the peak of this over six months ago.
It's quite a long one.
It's about nine minutes.
Let's just pause it here and just read the caption that he put.
But you can find this video.
It's still up.
It says, I do not agree with Tony Blair on much, but he has led the debate on vaccinations well.
Put him in charge of the vaccination programme and let's have a government of all the talents to end this unmitigated disaster.
Well, there won't be any talent from the right because he's destroyed all their careers.
It's just completely buying into the narrative that...
You know, the lockdowns were legit in any possible way.
I remember him with his pots and pans.
Can't wait for the vaccine and the pots and pans banging in solidarity with the flooded hospitals that weren't flooded.
All just nonsense.
I was just so gutted, really, to see a lot of people from all sides just...
Completely just lose their minds with it and just saying things that were so out of pocket.
I mean, Tony Blair as the vaccinations star?
What it showed me is that actually most people who are NPCs, they don't have minds, they just have TVs.
Right.
And there's obviously the effect of lockdown later on.
Children's speech delays increased following lockdowns.
We're still struggling with that.
I believe that's to do with the mask wearing as well.
So not just the separation, because socially, the mind of a child is like a sponge, and they have to absorb information in order to learn, obviously.
And if they don't have social interaction with people, that can really affect them mentally, along with...
There's articles as well to do with speech, delayed in speech, like this one, but it's all to do with the mask wearing because you can't see what another person is saying and how it's articulated.
You have to look at facial features when people speak to each other.
If he was in year 10 or 11 or doing your two years of A-levels during those two years, that screwed you.
That would have screwed you.
Right?
Yeah.
If I was in year 11 going on to my first year of sixth form, so my whole end of school, early, further education is completely ruined, pretty much.
I remember hearing about a young police officer who got called to a job in a pub and was completely floundered because they'd never been in a pub before.
Because their university period overlapped COVID and they'd never been in a pub.
Bizarre.
And not just lockdown, but I remember when this came out, teenage boys more at risk from vaccines than COVID. This story isn't done yet.
This was huge when this came out.
Young males are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems after being jabbed than be hospitalised.
Study finds.
So in order that the government could dole out contracts to its friends and test its psychological operations, a whole bunch of teenage boys got killed.
And more will be coming, because there's more heart problems out there that are just below the level that people aren't picking up on.
It's a sad...
I'm sorry, I know it's Blackpink, and it makes me a bit emotional, actually, because it's kids as well, and it's a different...
Well, they say the outcome of a system is the point of it.
COVID was about killing kids.
At the moment, they're trying to get us into the Ukraine war to kill kids.
People accept the idea that the state can put you under house arrest at the drop of a hat and you've got no recourse against it.
And the cherry on top of the cake is, you know, there's the investigation into it all, right?
Oh, that's...
You know that?
The inquiry.
The inquiry.
And from what I've seen, it's a complete whitewash.
The inquiry is about why didn't you do lockdown sooner and harder and longer?
That's the angle of it.
Yeah.
Lewis, we are running low on time.
You might want to pick up some of the comments.
Yes, absolutely.
What have we got here?
A quiet voice says, I remember being denied my right to worship whilst weed and liquor stores were deemed essential.
I remember being denied access to my parishioners to comfort them whilst they were dying.
Yep.
A lot of churches decided to close as well.
Pubs and parks and churches closed, but the border wired open.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
It is thanks to you guys I started my path of learning.
I learned the wonderful history we have.
Thanks for the light and the darkness.
That was Logan17pine as well.
Let's have a look.
Can we read out a few more, do you reckon?
Yeah, do a couple more.
Oh, we've read that Sarand name out about the manager at the gym.
During the pandemic, we had to register every vax customer and refuse the pure bloods.
I remember that.
I registered every single customer, vax or not, in the system.
I'm unvaxed.
What else have we got?
That's a random name again.
Here in Quebec, the government was very open about marginalising people who are unvaccinated or pure bloods.
That was the nickname, wasn't it, that people gave?
The PM went on TV calling us...
Recalcitrants.
I've never heard of that word.
Forgive me.
It's a new word of the day.
Our top female TV personality saying we should be arrested for being unvaxxed.
Yep.
Yep.
Just do a couple of last ones.
Cranky Texan says this is...
Oh, the only person who died with COVID wasn't recorded as a COVID death.
It was George Floyd.
Yep.
And that's a random name, says, reminded that we have evil Putin to thank for ending the pandemic.
Yes, that's also very true.
Oh yes, because the narrative shift, right.
And it all pivoted on a day and then it was all over.
Bizarre.
Have we got any video comments?
Can't hear you, Samson.
Okay.
Okay, right.
Well, we're out of time, so any video comments we will pick up in tomorrow's episode.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.
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