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Good afternoon, folks.
Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday, the 14th of February, 2025. It is Friday, the best day of the week.
I'm joined by Stelios and Stan and Dan from Voice of Wales.
And today we're going to be talking about the looming end of the Ukraine conflict.
Thank goodness.
An Afghan driver whose car terrorized Munich.
Probably bought it from Amazon.
And how a Royal Marine...
Fell afoul of political correctness, but has been given justice.
Thank goodness.
Anyway, no particular announcements other than that after this, there is Lad's Hour, where they're going to be discussing the final points of beer.
Well, it is Valentine's.
Yeah, well, it's Valentine's Day as well.
Which means after this, I need to go get a card.
And our love to the audience.
I'm joking.
I got the card just before the podcast, actually.
Not last night, then.
No, no.
I got the flowers last night.
Right.
Let's begin.
So, it looks like there is a realistic end to the Ukrainian conflict looming into view, and you can imagine the people who are in favour of this, which is people who are involved with it, people who don't want eternal wars, and you can imagine who is opposed to this, which is...
Shit libs.
Very, very, very screechy women and camp men who want, for some reason, for Ukrainians to die forever in a war against Russia.
And I just can't stand it.
I actually really hate it.
The Ukrainian conflict, I don't think people realize the scope of it so far, so we're going to go through some of the details.
Before we do, though, Islander 3 is coming, so if you want to get an Islander 2 shirt...
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I actually need to order myself one, because I don't have a heavy metal one yet, and I do want it.
Anyway, so the numbers are just horrific, and that's by any standard.
Because you would think in the 21st century, war would be a much smaller affair.
It'd be more surgical, more technological.
It wouldn't be mass movements of troops.
But actually, no, not in Russia and Ukraine.
The common figure I could find bandied about, which is cited in this ABC News story, but it was also given by New York Times and various others, comes from the former Prosecutor General of Ukraine who claimed that around 30,000 Ukrainian troops a month are being killed or badly wounded, and that the Ukrainian toll so far is probably north of half a million.
Wow.
Which is huge.
I mean, this is leaving demographic holes in Ukraine's population.
Yeah, but the solution to that?
Is immigration.
Well, that's a different story.
It's been announced.
Oh, is it?
Jesus Christ.
I didn't even see that.
No, it's been announced.
Immigration.
And you'll know where they're coming from.
Just don't.
Anyway, so the Russians have suffered between 300,000 and 400,000 casualties.
Soldiers.
To know the number of civilians and the actual number is, of course, very difficult at the best of times.
But the point is, it's around somewhere of a million people have died in this conflict over the last almost three years.
So you might think that bringing an end to it was actually a good thing.
Yeah.
Because I don't want millions of people to die in really, honestly, kind of trivial reasons as well.
But how have they painted the Soviet Union?
And I use that word advisedly.
Go on.
Why have they painted the Soviet Union when it had all those countries as a buffer states, basically to protect the motherland?
And when they were given up, they were told that NATO would not advance into those states.
Yeah, Vladimir Putin said this in the 90s and he's been saying it ever since.
And they did.
They did.
And they also put nuclear weapons into Germany.
Yeah, I wasn't going to get into it, but there is a fair argument to be made that there has been a lack of respect shown to Russia's authority in the region.
Well, when I was at NATO in shape, there were 16 countries in NATO. There are now 31. The first remit of it was that we were a defensive organization.
We will never fire the first shot.
And then we went into Libya and other states as well as an aggressive force.
So it has changed from being 16 peace-loving peacekeepers to the withdrawal of the British Army of the Rhine out and also the Americans out of Germany to now being an aggressive force.
It's expansionist.
And unfortunately, well, they've broken every gentleman's agreement or whatever when it comes to Russia.
Yeah.
So I just want to carry on rather than relocate the whole thing, but I'm not, obviously I'm not against NATO or anything like that, but there's no doubt that it hasn't been employed as it was meant to have been employed.
And so anyway, getting back to Ukraine.
Decades now.
For decades, yeah.
This has been going on since the fall of the Berlin Wall, yeah.
So, yeah, if not before.
So you can go to various Ukraine tracker websites to see how much money has been spent.
It's hard to find a correct number, frankly, because obviously the number changes.
But this one says somewhere around 250 billion euros has been spent.
I've found other numbers, which are sort of like $380 billion, things like this.
So is that the official figures?
It's hard to find direct official figures, that's the thing.
Because an exact equivalent number will have been skimmed off.
Well, yeah, I mean, this is just publicly announced totals.
So from that, obviously, and Zelensky said something like half the money just hasn't arrived, and so it's a very leaky pipe that's transporting this money to Ukraine.
Because...
People seem to forget that Eastern Europe is not just modern first world Western democracy.
It's actually full of deeply corrupt states.
Ukraine being one of the most corrupt.
But that doesn't mean that we should want them to be involved in a war or anything.
I'm not saying it was justified for the Russians to invade or anything like that.
It's just when you approach these things with a clear set of eyes, you get a better perspective on the circumstances.
Well, I'm sure you'll find some of the money on Hunter Biden's laptop.
Well, no doubt.
Anyway, so here's a map of the ethnic distribution of Ukraine.
And ethnic distribution is always really well mapped out when you look at the languages that people speak.
The blue is Ukrainian, but the red is Russian.
Now, you might be wondering, why were the Crimeans so happy to become part of Russia?
Well, now you know.
And you can see also there are other large areas in the east that are...
Heavily Russian, so like 80% plus Russian.
And this is a map of where the Russians have invaded and gained control of.
So as you can see, the Russians are taking the Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine, people who probably should have already been part of Russia anyway.
Don't forget, the capital was in Ukraine at one stage, only for a few years.
But the point is, there is an ethnic fissure here that is...
Coming to a kind of natural settlement.
This is not entirely irrational, and it's actually kind of normal that the Russians should be a part of Russia, and Ukrainians should be a part of Ukraine, and the Welsh should be a part of England.
Just teasing.
But the point being, this is a very natural thing for people to want, which is why you had Donbass and what was the other one?
Donuts.
Being separatist because they wanted to be free of Ukraine because the Ukrainians have an ethnic grievance against Russians and not unreasonably so.
The way the Russians have treated them has been terrible throughout the 20th century.
So anyway, like I said, I didn't want to relitigate all of this or anything like that.
Just basically, I want...
Because there are going to be lots of people who only watch the mainstream coverage of this.
Who view this as something like Star Wars.
Oh, the plucky rebel Ukrainians have been invaded by the Russian Death Star for no reason!
Just because they're evil and they worship the dark side of the force.
It's like, no.
They have interests.
They have requirements.
They have geostrategic objectives they have to meet for the security of their own country.
And if you want to understand these things, you have to accept that that's true.
So, anyway.
Trump has moved in and decided, right.
This is just coming to an end.
And finally, he said he was going to do this.
Obviously, he said for literally months and months and months.
I'll get this done really quickly.
And he's getting on with it.
So, I'll just read.
From his truth social post.
I had a lengthy and productive phone call with Vladimir Putin of Russia.
We discussed Ukraine, Middle East, energy, artificial intelligence, the power of the dollar, and various other subjects.
We both reflected on the great history of our nations and the fact that we fought so successfully together in World War II, remembering that Russia lost tens of millions of people and we likewise lost so many.
Now, this is an interesting perspective, right?
And one that you simply will not get from the likes of Keir Starmer, Rishi Sennacher, Boris Johnson, which is to accept that Russia itself is a great country with a long history.
And the Russians are sensitive to their own dignity as a people.
This is one thing that the modern liberal, neoliberal sort of globalist just cannot accept.
accept but it is a definite core part of the russian mind and why vladimir pustin does seem to actually enjoy organic support from the russian people even though he's launched an offensive war vladimir pustin as far as they're concerned i think is defending the dignity of russia on the world stage and making them a power like they used to be when they had the soviet union i think to the average russian that is actually important yeah yeah i i think that
If people were to say that this is like Antebi Airport, where the Israelis went in and got their hostages back, people have to understand that the people that lived in southern Ukraine have been butchered and slaughtered by Ukrainians.
Azov Battalion and co.
for years and years and years.
And there comes a point where, after the warnings and warnings and warnings by the Russia, by Russian Federation, that if you don't put your own house in order, we will.
And that's what he's done.
Yeah.
So I just want to hammer on that point a second, just because it was just, this is just, you could never imagine Keir Starmer or Boris Johnson or anyone else.
Publicly accepting that Russia has the legitimacy to exist as a state and therefore should be concerned about its own dignity.
Trump does.
And he also mentions that at some point they were allies in World War II. They say we successfully fought together.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, that was more my enemy's enemy is my friend.
Yeah, yeah.
But having said that, having said that, the point is he's done two things.
He's made this speech, but at the same time, he's told NATO that NATO is not a priority for the United States anymore.
Sorry, NATO in the West, you know, Europe is not a priority.
And Ukraine can't join NATO. So that's been the quid pro quo.
To Vladimir.
We'll get into it in a little bit because...
There are definitely forces who want it to, as unwise as that might be.
So he carries on and says, To lead the negotiations, which I feel strongly will be successful.
And then he says that, look, I just want to bring this to a peaceful conclusion, which is fine.
And honestly, the sensible and mature thing to do at this point in the conflict.
A lot of people have died.
Ukraine is clearly losing this war and would clearly have been knocked out of the war were it not for the endless treasure and munitions we were pouring into their pockets.
And Boris Johnson poured petrol.
Yes, he did.
He hampered a peace agreement.
Was it two years ago now?
Two years and a million men.
Yeah, exactly.
At the time, there was something like 200,000, 300,000 dead, and now it's 700,000 more.
So, well done, Boris.
Anyway, so Zelensky posted on Twitter that he had had a chat with President Trump.
Honestly, there's not much for him to say.
He just says, yeah, I discussed it with him, and hopefully we'll get to have negotiations.
Trump made some other comments as well.
He is on the way to getting to peace.
He thinks Putin wants peace.
He thinks Zelensky wants peace.
And I want to just stop seeing people getting killed.
And so they're planning to have a peace summit of some sort, apparently in Saudi Arabia at some point.
I wish it was Gaza.
Yeah.
It doesn't even have a nice hotel there yet.
But yeah, so Putin had invited Trump to Moscow, but of course...
Trump was like, well, it'll probably take place somewhere else.
Yeah, yeah.
Neutral growth.
Yeah.
And Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that Ukraine will not realistically enter NATO. So, the Defense Secretary of the United States has ruled that out.
He says, we want the sovereign, prosperous Ukraine, but we must start by recognizing returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is also an unrealistic objective, as is joining NATO. So, basically, the way the map was, as I showed you a minute ago, is what it's probably going to end up looking like, but that's actually not a terribly unreasonable position because, of course, the majority of Russian areas will just join Russia.
Anyway, so...
People pointing out, well, hang on a second, he's doing this without Zelensky's say-so.
It's like, yeah, because Zelensky has lost the war.
This is what happens when you lose a war.
You actually aren't in a position to negotiate from a place of strength.
Well, Zelensky was a puppet anyway.
Well, yeah, I agree.
I can't remember the name of the oligarch who funded him to become the president offhand.
But yeah, he's a comedian.
He's an actor.
He's not a great Machiavellian political agent.
I mean, I don't see it that way.
Not because I'm going to speak necessarily pro Zelensky, but because the whole thing as far as what we call the West is concerned is military support and also intel support to Ukraine.
So that is what is being taken away.
Without that, Ukraine couldn't fight.
Anyway, Zelensky...
He wants to be involved in the negotiations, which is not at all unreasonable, and I don't doubt that he will be.
But the Western Liberal has been trying to advance Zelensky's position in the negotiations as if he's the one who has won the war.
And it's like, no, he's the losing party in the war, I'm afraid.
And he's also not the party that has been...
Responsible for where the wealth and the munitions have been coming from.
So he's going to end up inevitably taking a backseat in these negotiations because it will be between Trump and Putin.
Revealing to us that this was an American proxy war against Russia launched during the Biden administration and prosecuted very happily by Biden and the West under his leadership.
Things have changed under Trump.
Honestly, for the more sensible.
Fewer people die because of this.
And the people to blame are the people that now own vast tracts of Ukraine.
Yeah, no doubt.
Blackrock.
Yeah, no doubt.
I don't even get into it.
It's like, it's just...
There was a US general in the 20s who wrote a book called War is a Racket.
Yeah.
And Smedley Butler.
And he's just so right about it.
Absolutely right.
So right.
Industrial warfare is just a racket.
Anyway, Zelensky wants 100,000 European troops as peacekeepers in Ukraine to keep a ceasefire guaranteed, as well as he'd like guarantees from NATO, which he probably won't get.
But Trump has said that he will guarantee it, so who knows what that means.
This Hegseth also said that everything is on the table in the conversation with Putin and Zelensky.
Now, people have been pointing out, BBC pointed out, that the Europeans seem to have been completely caught out by this and outmaneuvered.
So again, Zelensky didn't know what was going on, the Europeans didn't know what was going on, and suddenly Trump's on the phone to Putin and said, look, let's wind this down.
Sick of this nonsense.
Because people have got to remember as well, we failed to break Russia in the way that we thought we were going to.
We thought that what we would do is essentially just strangle the Russian economy to death so that The Russian war machine wouldn't be able to function and that they would just end up giving up the war.
That didn't happen.
They basically judo-flipped us, which is why all of us...
Exactly.
It's one of the reasons all of your prices are shooting through the roof at the moment.
The Russians have been preparing for this eventuality since at least 2014. And they knew that they had some cards to play, and they played them.
And so, okay, well, we can sit there and say Russia bad.
Yeah, maybe.
But also, Russia source of European energy.
And you all laughed at Trump when he said, why are you dependent on Russia for European energy?
You laughed in his face, and look at you now.
So, just saying.
Anyway, so, various foreign ministers, diplomats, heads of state from Europe have been caught completely off guard by this.
Europe's defence ministers had one common message.
There could be no negotiation about Ukraine without Ukraine and Europe at the table too.
They're begging, please, can we be involved?
Why would you need to be?
These people as well were the ones who didn't want negotiations.
They were the ones who wanted to keep ploughing money in and keep the fight going on.
So to say they want to be part of the negotiations they didn't want to be part of, it just shows where they are.
They're not interested in stopping anything.
They just want to be a part of it.
Yeah, absolutely.
BBC say, after a frenetic 24 hours of US declarations, there is a tangible sense that Europe's leaders have been caught by surprise, and they now fear being bypassed on any potential Ukraine deal and deprived of a voice on the future of European security.
It's like, well, many of you only spend like 2% GDP. On your security, or however much below the NATO requirement for the spending is.
So, the US is carrying Europe's defence, and has been for decades, and you know this.
Donald Trump has been, literally from the beginning of his presidency back in 2016, complaining about this to you, saying, look, you need to spend more on defence, you need to pull your weight.
And suddenly, when you didn't do that, are you surprised that he's just ignoring you when he goes to deal with Vladimir Putin?
Well, I don't think he's ignoring them.
The left and the libtards have all been doing this.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la.
Yeah, they have.
Because if you looked at his record, his record has been withdraw, America first, no more wars, and I'll even talk to North Korea.
Oh, yeah.
He shook Kim Jong-un's hand across the DMZ. Yeah.
And so anyone, anyone, You know, who's compass mentis in this could look and think, right, Trump's won.
What is he going to do?
Take him seriously.
And this is exactly what Germany's foreign minister said.
The call with Putin was very much out of the blue, and even if the US president had made it clear for months that he was aiming to bring a quick end to the war, it's like, why did it come out of the blue if he knew he'd been saying this for months?
Like, why weren't you taking him seriously?
You know, why didn't you think he was actually going to do something?
But no, like you said, they were cooling their heels, basically, assuming, oh, nothing's really going to happen.
No, Trump's going to make this end in the same way he's just going to make other things happen.
And the same with Gaza.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Hamas and Hezbollah.
Actually need to think.
He means it.
He's actually going to do what he's saying.
He's going to allow the Israelis to do whatever they want and they won't be rebuked.
So, you know, whether you agree with it or not, go make your judgments.
But this is probably going to happen, so prepare in advance.
Anyway, the people who aren't preparing in advance are, of course, running our country.
Starmer's convinced that everything will work out just...
Sunshine and roses.
We're literally going to be like North Korea on everything.
Just an archaic state.
Well, I mean, it shows what Num Nuts knows about NATO because you've got to have a unanimous decision.
The Supreme Commander is always an American.
And if the Americans vote no...
You're not getting it.
Correct.
And Hegseth literally just told you no.
Oh, yeah.
What are you doing?
Oh, I hate this.
I'm sorry.
I don't even hate him.
He's just a moron.
But that's why they've actually started to form a European army.
Yeah.
To circumvent this.
But of course, they can't even get that right.
No, of course not.
But anyway, so this was a remarkable exchange on British Talk TV between Richard Tice and Julia Hartley Brewer.
And I just wanted to...
Just watch some of this, just to capture the liberal class's opinion on what has happened here, because they are so stuck in this kind of mist of morality when it comes to international power politics that it completely blinds them to the realities of what is happening.
It's Russia that's killing people.
If Russia stopped fighting, if Russia wanted to end the war, if Russia stopped fighting, Russia could just stop fighting and there wouldn't be a war and there wouldn't be killed.
And that would be great.
Hey, our job done.
Why doesn't the West take that to Russia?
Ultimately, maybe that's what the negotiations are.
Which part of Britain would you give away if we were invaded and you wanted to negotiate peace?
None at all.
Oh, so we wouldn't give away any of Britain?
But it's okay to give away a bit of Ukraine?
Hang on, it's not us giving it away, Julia.
It's Ukraine.
Ukraine doesn't want to give it away.
Of course it doesn't.
But ultimately, as everybody said, it is Zelensky's decision, but ultimately...
We've got to stop killing people.
If we were invaded and our close allies in NATO, like the United States, basically supported us for a bit, but gave us just enough support so we could actually not lose, but we'd not enough to win.
And after three years, whoever was president of the United States said...
You're in a stronger position for which to try and negotiate a solution.
At which point Donald Trump, whoever...
No, let me finish.
Says, oh, we're going to have a negotiation.
We're going to let the Russians, whoever invaded us, keep out of territory.
Just to clarify, just how much a British...
What territory would you be willing to give away in those negotiations?
Ultimately, in Northern Ireland, there was a negotiation to stop the killing.
It involved horrendous compromises that lots of people didn't want to make.
We didn't give away territory.
We stopped killing people.
We didn't give away territory.
That's also correct.
We didn't give away territory to invade the force.
That's a ridiculous analogy.
It's a completely valid analogy.
Sorry, who invaded Northern Ireland?
Wars stop when people stop killing people.
No, wars stop when one side is defeated.
Sorry.
Have you heard of the Second World War?
Yes.
Did we negotiate the ending of the Second World War?
There are lots of other wars where, ultimately, people negotiate a peace.
Otherwise, you just carry on.
How long are we going to carry on with this?
Falklands.
Yeah, Falklands we won.
Oh, yeah.
We didn't just negotiate with the Argentina and give them some of the Falklands.
Why not?
Why not?
That would have stopped the war, Richard.
Why not?
Ultimately, we won that war.
But there are other wars where it's a negotiated settlement.
Because it's not our problem.
Except it will be our problem, when Vladimir Putin thinks he can take any territory of any country in Europe that he darn well pleases.
And that's hysterical.
Richard Tice handles her really well there.
He's exactly correct.
You can see the hysterical woman on one side, very calm, reasonable man on the other, saying, no, Ukraine doesn't want this.
This isn't like World War II. Some wars come to a negotiated settlement, especially if you're on the losing side.
This is why we didn't have to do that with the Argentinians.
Tice, just completely correct on this point.
No, this is what's going to happen and it should happen at this point.
And the liberal sort of internationalists are saying, no, we've got to feed men into the meat grinder forever.
30,000 men a month are dying in Ukraine.
Why is she so passionate?
You just see her face.
This is personal for her.
She's not being a talk show host here.
This is a moral crusade.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, and with other people's sons.
You know, that's what really pisses me off.
Well, 18-year-old, that 18-year-old went to Ukraine, you know, obviously radicalized by UK. He went to Ukraine and died on the first outing that he took.
You know, and it's because of people like this.
Yeah, it's never going to be her.
And as far as she's concerned, she wants that to happen so she never has to deal with it personally.
It's like, no, that's terrible, Julian.
It's terrible.
It's a good thing that's coming to me.
The actual better analogy would have been World War I. And Germany.
And you see, when you do an unfair treaty, what happens.
That's a great point, actually.
I wish I'd made that analogy myself.
It's a really good point, Stan.
But no, no, you're exactly right.
You're exactly right.
A fair settlement to Ukraine and Russia would be a good thing.
And Trump's got a fairly good sense of fairness, actually.
He has.
He's not a pushover, so I'd be surprised if...
You know, everything went terribly for Ukraine and Zelensky.
But anyway, we'll leave that there.
Just good to see that it's coming to an end.
Right, we have a...
Oh, yeah.
Matt says, why was Russia not accepted into NATO with Clinton and Bush when Putin discussed this with them then?
Would have solved a lot of problems.
Well...
You're right, Samson?
Okay.
I can, I guess.
Okay, no problem.
Thank you.
Anyway, Matt says, yeah, why was it not?
Well, this, yeah, so back in like 96 or something like that, Vladimir Putin asked to join NATO and they turned him down, which would have been, I mean, honestly, it's kind of 4D chess move that, isn't it?
Well, technically what happened is the question was that it's open to anybody.
So he said, yeah, I'd like to join.
I'd like to join.
I mean, they didn't see that coming.
Clever, to be honest.
I can endorse him, Biden.
How much NHS funding would this female presenter pay to defeat Russia?
I should have framed it that way.
That's money to take away from the NHS there, Junior.
And there's a lot of CIA influence in Ukraine, including the 2014 coup.
Also, deep state things like Victoria Nuland want a continuation because of money and fears of what Putin would...
Finding the bioweapon labs.
Yeah, I tell you why they're bioweapon.
American bioweapon labs in Ukraine.
I mean, come on.
Come on.
Come on.
It's obviously that there is so much corruption going on there, which is why.
The Biden regime was so invested.
And evidently Trump's not involved in it, which is why he doesn't care.
You know, he's like, no, I just want people to stop dying.
I remember watching the, you know, about a year or two before all this kicked off this time, the BBC documentary on the Azov Battalion and Ukraine's problem with neo-Nazis.
Yeah, in 2016, they used to, the Guardian used to be like, oh my God, look at all these Nazis in Ukraine.
And then all of a sudden, flip, you know, we've got to support these now.
Yeah, no, that's exactly it.
These are our Nazis.
Yeah.
Right.
So yesterday in Germany, in Munich, there was a very tragic event with an Afghan who literally drove a Mini Cooper in a demonstration of people.
And yet again, we saw the same ridiculous reaction by the mainstream media and by people and by leftists especially.
But before we say more about that, we have merch to chill.
We have here wonderful...
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I mean, yes.
But that's every day.
Exactly.
So it's order day, order Islander 2. And we have good news that will soon arrive.
Right.
So here, let's talk about some bad news.
And let's bear the context in mind.
So in the last 12 months, we know at least five...
Major terrorist attacks and terrorist acts in Germany.
So we had Michael Sturzenberger, who was attacked by an Islamist.
We had the Solingen stabbings at the Diversity Festival.
We had the terrorist incident in Magdeburg.
Exactly, the one with the car.
The one with the car.
And someone, an Islamist, the Saudi Arabian, drove the car into...
The crowd, then we had the stabbings in Aschaffenburg, where another Islamist killed an old man, a 42-year-old man, and also he stabbed a baby to death.
And yesterday we had this really tragic event where a person, I think he was an Afghan, who literally drove a Mini Cooper.
In a demonstration, which was a leftist demonstration, if you believe, by a group called Verdi M. W.R., which I'll tell you in a bit what's happened.
So, whenever we see attacks like these, we see a particular pattern.
I have five stages there.
You can make some amendments.
So, for instance, a criminal act is committed.
Politicians express their sympathies to the families of the victims.
Stage three, the crime is portrayed as an isolated incident committed by an individual with mental health problems.
Stage four, mainstream media and politicians will scaremonger about the far right.
And then they forget and then move on.
I think the only amendment I'd make is stage one is to say that it definitely wasn't a terrorist attack.
They know nothing about the incident, but they know it's not terrorist related.
Exactly, yes.
There is constant speculation about the motives.
The police says that we can't establish what the motive might have been.
But we know it wasn't terrorism.
But is there a link to the religion of peace?
He was just yelling Ola Wakwa.
He was just an asylum seeker from an Islamic country.
But you don't know, he was driving a car and cars have a radicalizing effect on people, especially sometimes, you know, there's so much traffic, there are traffic laws.
I mean, driving is radicalizing people.
And where did he buy the car?
You know, who sold him the car?
Because they got some responsibility.
He suggested the Amazon before.
Is he called the Medi Cooper Keller?
And also, you know, some knives also have a voice of their own.
They have a spirit of their own voices talking to people.
Just animistic ways of viewing it.
Right, so what happened yesterday was that the driver was arrested immediately and it was confirmed instantly by the police that he was an Afghan and there was speculation about his identity and about stuff.
So there are several rumors about his age.
Some people say 24, others 27, others 30. I think it's safe to say somewhere in his 20s.
Right, so let's see here.
The Verdi group.
Let's see here the Munich car attack.
The media.
They're talking about a car.
A car.
Car did it.
Suspected Munich car attack.
There's nothing suspected about it.
There's footage.
People know that it happened and it wasn't the car.
The car was driven.
Actually, you've got to give Sky News some credit there.
Children among 30 injured is car driven into Munich crowd in suspected attack.
Implying a person was in control of the car, making those decisions.
Obviously, the editor missed that bit.
Yeah, clearly.
Some of the headlines are good, but most of them are not.
They say, Munich car attack latest.
Suspect name.
Then we have Munich car ramming that injured 36, investigated as Islamic extremism.
At least 20 injured.
Car convert to Islam, NBC News.
Yeah.
And here, DW, I think that's for Deutsche Welle.
At least 20 injured after car drives into crowd in Munich.
The car was facing east when it came in.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe it's one of Musk's self-driving Teslas.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe they should ban cars just like they call to ban knives after the knives attacks.
Or tweets.
Exactly, exactly.
Because there are people behind tweets.
You know that.
But not behind cars and knives.
Right, so we have now stage two.
We have politicians making mistakes and making...
Sorry, that's a...
That's a slip of the tongue.
They make statements of sympathy.
And here we have Olaf Scholz, who is the leader of the SPD party, the current Chancellor of Germany, saying he must be punished and he must live the country.
What an absolutely weak response to a man who murders however many people, including children, by deliberately driving a car through a crowded area.
Oh, well, he must be deported.
Deported?
He should be swinging me.
What are you talking about?
Oh, you're going home now?
Oh, no.
I've got to go home to my wife and kids.
Piss off.
We're going to hang you, bro.
I've been saying for many, many months now that they should be deported in an urn.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm sorry.
This profound weakness pisses me off.
So he has a history of doing this.
And this is the cover from Der Spiegel from October.
2023, where he says we have to deport people more often and faster.
I mean, yes, but before they commit crimes.
Yeah.
Yes, but the point is that he doesn't do anything about it.
Oh, yeah, well...
It's entirely...
Head cruise in Germany.
Lip service.
Yes, and also there are federal elections in nine days in Germany on the 23rd of February.
Yeah.
And we need to bear in mind that his party rejected the proposal by CDU, the Christian Democrat Union.
To toughen up migration policies.
So he makes statements of the sort after attacks, but when the push comes to shove, he doesn't know.
You only have to look at, I mean, you're pointing out a German here, but you only have to look at Starmer laying a wreath in Southport, knowing that there was a biological weapon and that he'd had a history and that Prevent hadn't stopped him.
And his father hadn't stopped him.
And in fact, it was a terrorist incident.
Exactly.
But the flowers, the candles, the mock cards and the mock flowers that are put there by agents.
I'll put it no stronger than that.
It's all a pretense.
It's all a show.
They've got a script that they just run through whenever this happens.
Yeah, exactly.
Right, so...
The Taliban accepted that they could cooperate with Germany if Germany decides to deport Afghans who cause trouble.
I don't mean to laugh, but this is really funny because it kind of implies that the Taliban care more about Europeans than European governments do.
Yeah.
The Taliban are like, what's happened?
Oh, that's awful.
Do you want to send them back?
No, no, no.
We can't do that.
God, how are the Taliban more empathetic towards us than our own goddamn skin?
I also like the...
This is a bit...
I mean, I don't like it, but you have to laugh a bit.
You can't help but laugh at this.
You can't help but laugh.
It's just, you know, the...
This is called trench humour.
The people who try to make a statement and just appear as, you know, strong people in the case are the Taliban.
The grown-ups in the room are the Taliban.
Yeah, we are going to be the grown-ups here.
Just send them back.
It's time.
Send them back.
No more Germans have to die.
Never again.
Never again is now.
Look back now.
Right.
And all this has people really upset with Olaf Scholz.
As we know, he was confronted by a grandma who asked him, aren't you morally complicit in every murder that has occurred?
And this actually shows the algorithm in their minds.
It's just...
They are sort of programmed to not care about it and just bury it and move on.
You just said, of course I am.
I'm a German politician.
Exactly.
Right.
And we need to bear in mind that he does this and he is losing 0.8 in just 30 days.
So all this empty virtue signaling is actually not working.
It's as bad as Starmer.
Exactly.
Sure, this won't improve the AFD's chances.
No, no, no.
Here we see development since the last election.
Since the last election, they are predicted to get at least a 10% boost, which is precisely because they are addressing issues that people want, that people are concerned about.
And what is interesting is that we need to show what the CDU did.
About a month ago.
They made the proposal, but when there was a lot of protest against them for having passed the proposals with the support of AFD members, they suddenly backed down.
And it was voted against, and they made all kind of ritualistic mannerisms.
They seemed very cultist.
To me, I must say, saying we are never going to do this with AFD again.
So they care much more about their shenanigans and their buffer zone policies.
They care more about the cordon sanitary.
Than about the actual consequences of these policies.
Right, so the AFD made a statement.
The driver who drove a car into a Verdi demonstration in Munich is Afghan 26.
Prediction, like the perpetrator in Aschaffenburg, he will also be known to the police and CSU-governed Bavaria and will be required to leave the country and will be classified as mentally ill.
Now, a lot of it was a very accurate prediction, as you will see.
Shock.
I don't mean to laugh because it's not funny, but it's just, of course it is.
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny how predictable it is.
And this isn't just Germany.
This is everywhere you go.
You know, it's always reactionary.
It's never, you know, no one's ever dealing with stuff before it happens, stopping it happening.
It's always after the event.
And even after the event, they still don't mean anything that they're saying.
Yeah, absolutely.
Right.
So before they, when they caught him, he was shouting Allah.
And there are several reports that he was sharing Islamist propaganda online.
Oh, really?
But...
He didn't have the usual profile.
He didn't have the usual profile.
He was a bodybuilder, and he had around 100,000 followers on TikTok and Instagram, and that's where he posted such content.
But before we say more about him, there's the main problem here, according to Politico.
Germany's migrants are terrified.
Oh, well, yeah.
I mean, thoughts and prayers with the Muslim community this time.
Yes.
So according to Politico, wasn't that the newspaper that was being funded by USA? Yeah, it is.
It just came to mind.
I don't know why.
They say assaults stoke fear among Germany's migrants in the wake of an attack on a Christmas market in Magdeburg.
Migrants in the city are being targeted by right-wing extremists.
All you have to do is not murder people.
They were so frightened for the Christmas market.
That on New Year's Eve, they went and started raping and assaulting people.
That's how frightened they were.
It's a way of grief.
Let's say grief strikes people differently.
Different ways, yeah.
Different ways.
It just didn't have to be five in two months, you know what I mean?
You just not commit terror attacks.
It's like fitness.
It's whatever works for you.
Yeah.
Depends on who you are.
My problem with it, just to say really quickly, is that they always say about the migrants, but why, you know...
If they want that sort of sympathy and support, then they should maybe call out this stuff within their community because too many of them just stay silent.
And we know this.
Oh, do you mean like the grooming and rape gangs?
Absolutely.
And many other examples, you know.
The community keeps quiet because obviously they're not allowed to tell tales on people, you know.
So they do have to bear some responsibility in staying silent.
Exactly.
I mean, this guy got 100,000 followers by posting Islamic, like almost jihadi stuff.
Okay, you know, you could have mentioned it.
So, there are reports that he was an asylum seeker whose application got rejected.
Like, how are you shocked?
Does that even mean anything now, though, if it gets rejected?
Because you hear about them getting rejected three or four times before they go on to do this.
So, if it gets rejected, what does that actually mean?
Because it doesn't mean that they've got to leave.
No, it means they get to live in Germany forever.
So, it's just like unofficial acceptance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The issue is that...
Yeah, the issue is that the people who govern Germany and Europe, and I would say also the UK, they don't care about the law.
They just have a really weird...
It's like a lynching movie.
They try to interpret it their own way.
So, for instance, ECHR Article 8 doesn't preclude deportations.
It says all of the people have the right to private and public life, subject to considerations of...
National security and public safety.
So they have a really weird way of interpreting it.
But also, deportation orders are like milk.
They expire at some point.
So they expired and they do nothing.
They don't enforce the law.
Right, so they say here Farad N was reportedly known by local police for drugs and theft and is believed to have accelerated this vehicle into the crowd of a thousand strikers at around 30 miles per hour, according to Swiss publication Blick.
Terrorism experts are investigating the suspect and there are indications of an extremist background.
Anyone foreign who commits a crime should just be deported.
So...
He applied for asylum in 2016 when he arrived in Germany and that was rejected.
And they say, however, the Afghan reportedly received a so-called toleration permit from the General Federal Office for Migration and Refugees, which meant that his deportation was suspended until 2023, when he got a residence and work permit until April 2025. Why?
It's just...
We don't want you here, but we're not going to get rid of you.
And they say it is understood that Farhad N worked for a security service and participated in bodybuilding competitions in his free time.
He regularly shared pictures of fitness journey with his more than 100,000 followers across Instagram and TikTok.
Right.
So it's yet again another failure of the migration policies of European nations and again the same tone-deaf reaction.
But we have an even more tone-deaf reaction here.
By leftists.
And I think that really leftists are...
How should I say?
Just a very problematic ideology and evil ideology.
Because they claim to care about social ideals, but they don't care about people.
And I think that says it all.
It means that they don't care about anything.
And what happened here?
The family and friends of the victims...
Gathered to make a protest and they actually said, no, perhaps the policy of open borders doesn't have good consequences for our people.
And let us say they were a leftist trade union.
It's not just saying that they were leftists.
Suffered the consequences of the policies that they themselves supported.
And the friends and family of the victims supported, they lamented, and the far-left militant extremists took the streets of Munich and intimidated them and started calling them fascists.
It's just incredible, isn't it?
Left-wing policy, left-wing consequence, then leftists shouting fascists at you because you don't want everyone to die.
Absolutely spot on.
Sufferable.
I think this shows in humanity on another level because...
Okay, you know what I stand for, and obviously I'm very much anti-left, but there is a world of difference between going and screaming fascists, you know, people who have different opinions than you have, and quite another to do it to people who grieve about their families and are scared about their families when they are grieving.
It's just...
And especially they're supposed to...
Yeah.
Especially they're supposed to have been friends up until yesterday.
Yeah.
You've seen it at the Southport trial, didn't you?
You know, you had the counter-protest there where there was friends and families and people of the community affected by that terrorist attack.
And you had the far left turn up to counter-protest them outside the court.
This isn't protest.
You can't counter-protest.
You're just evil.
Yeah.
And that's the thing.
Because all else, the policy is right.
That's what they think.
Nothing can touch it.
And anything that does impact, you've got to call them random fascist.
Exactly.
There's no number of people that need to die before they change their mind.
Because the concept of trial and error is foreign to them.
And I want to end with another note, which actually supports what we have been saying here in the last minutes.
This group left X last August.
They made an announcement and they say that we are leaving X because due to increasing negativity, the unfriendly climate and the new owner, Elon Musk, we're leaving this platform.
146 views.
Yes, but what I want to say is that there are people who are, even leftists, okay?
They shield themselves from the world.
They cut themselves.
They cut communication from the world.
Their policies have real-life consequences.
That new platform, Blue Sky, should be called Blue Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky, Sky.
Because it's just an echo chamber of lefties.
Exactly.
Yes.
Yeah.
And that, you know, this is happening in the UK as well.
My MP, Karen Harris, the one who regularly falls asleep in the comments, you've probably seen her purple glasses.
Looks a little bit like Dame Edna.
Well, it's odd.
Yeah.
She's left.
You know, she left X because she can't, you know, the abuse that she's been getting, which is actual, just normal criticism you get as an MP, is too much.
And she's gone.
You know, not available or not happy to accept scrutiny.
It's just, I don't want people to be ran over by cars.
I just don't want it.
Racist.
Far right.
Yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Oh, Hock, thank you very much for the donation.
Much appreciated.
Right, let's move on.
Yep.
Yep.
So we're going to talk about today something that is quite, you know, it's local to us, but it's affected the whole of the UK at the moment, which is the political prisoners.
People are being taken up for herty words online where, you know, people are just expressing an opinion.
But we're going to focus on three examples because they're closest to us.
More specifically, one being Jamie Michael.
Jamie has been, you know, all over the media at the moment.
He's been on GB News a couple of times.
His solicitor has as well.
But it's, you know, whenever you get on to GB News, you know, five, ten minutes is what you get.
And this story starts in August or end of July last year after the Southport terrorist attack.
So there was three people arrested, first of all.
Two of them went guilty through pressure from their duty solicitor and one, Jamie Michael, went not guilty.
And we spoke to Jamie quite a lot leading up to this.
From the start, actually.
Well, as soon as he found out he was arrested, he was in touch with his partner and we were speaking to his partner.
And, you know, what he is saying is absolutely correct.
I'm not going to go guilty and say that I did this when, you know, inciting racial hatred.
I'm not having that in my name when I didn't do that.
But we'll look at quickly the first two.
I don't know if that's...
Yeah, there we go.
So...
Let me just load it up there.
So three men charged with inciting racial hatred.
So you've got it here.
Three men from Tonopandi have been charged with publishing threatening material on a Facebook account intending to stir up religious hatred contrary to the Public Order Act 1986. And then it gives them the name Geraint Boyce, 43, Jamie Michael, 45, and a 40-year-old Daffron Williams all appeared at Merthyr Crown Court.
Geraint Boyce and Daffron Williams pleaded guilty and they were due to be sentenced then.
And then Jamie Michael pled not guilty.
What we'll do, we'll go on to the next one there.
There we go, perfect.
So this is the first one, admitted, stirring up racial hatred online.
And what he got for that then, he got sentenced, I believe it was three years.
I think they both got sentenced to three years.
And this is given the fact that a lot of them were told.
If you go guilty, you probably just get a suspended sentence.
This is your first offence.
You haven't done anything.
Go guilty.
You know, it takes off your sentence anyway.
It goes down good with the judge.
They did, and they got sentenced to three years.
Is this because of the Southport Massacre?
Yeah, yeah.
In response, absolutely.
I forgot to mention that, so thank you.
That's okay, because I've been following this particular case.
This is going to be exactly the pattern that has happened with all of the other rioters that have just been sent straight down, two years in jail for either something, you know, you were standing near a riot or you posted something on social media.
Great to see someone be like, no, I'm not guilty and I'm not going to just cop to them.
Yeah.
Like you say, I don't want that on my name.
And this, I knew, I knew it would have just been terrible advice from all of them.
Because it would have so many people who just, you know, they've never seen the inside of a courtroom.
They've never spoken to a lawyer.
They don't know anything about the legal system.
Why would they?
They're normal people.
They don't break the law, you know?
And so the first time they've come into contact with it, they say, oh, just, you know, you get spent cents.
No, you're going down.
You trust the person, don't you?
You trust your legal representation to be doing what's right for you.
But unfortunately, it does appear that they, you know, that just has not.
You know, it seems to be that the advice given to these duty solicitors is get them to go guilty.
Get them to go guilty, make an example of them.
So there was the next one then, which is, yeah, this one.
So Daffron Williams, you know.
This is one of the guys who pled guilty.
So he was sentenced.
He's gone down for three years.
And then...
For what?
Posting things on social media?
Posting things on social media.
Some of them, you know, they have, you know, a bit silly.
One of them is mentioned about burning down mosques.
And, you know, yeah, you can understand that.
Yeah, that's a silly thing to say.
Shouldn't have said it.
But no offences and three years in prison, you know, off the bat like that could be a bit harsh.
I have a question that I appreciate if you can't answer.
Maybe, you know, maybe we don't have access to it, but are these people incarcerated and imprisoned in, let's say, prisons with, let's say, worse convicts and criminals?
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's not just, let's say, economic crime?
No, no, no, no.
So a lot of these, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Except if you're a lefty.
And if you're a lefty, you can do that.
And you can be...
Well, yeah, he got suspended sentence, didn't he?
He's out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's out.
He's not on remand.
And yet every person that is on what I would say a normal person or on the right has been remanded.
Yeah, it's because it's a two-tier system, Stan.
Yeah.
Literally, it's because we're being oppressed.
It's a perfect example of it, you know.
Ricky Jones, the Labour councillor.
Ricky Jones, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
And now it's adjourned until September, in the hope that everyone forgets it.
Yeah, that's going to let it go away.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And then, obviously, so you've got these two gentlemen that did go guilty.
They are inside at the moment, and, you know, they're looking, I think it's May time, they're looking at, you know, they could be released, obviously, with it being half the sentence.
So, You know, the time is passing, but the question is still there.
Should they be in a cell?
And I think the answer lies in the, you know, this was tried and tested then through Jamie and his legal representation and his court battle to show that, well, you know, chances are, no, they shouldn't be in jail, you know?
So if we move on to the, yeah, the next one again, sorry.
We skipped this one.
So Mandonized Stirring Racial Hatred on Facebook.
So this is Jamie Michael and...
I thought I had them all loaded on my screen, but they're not there.
But, so Jamie went in.
He was in the, let's just say when he was arrested first of all.
So he was arrested on the Friday.
We've seen the video because we were in court.
We were there.
We watched all the body cam footage.
The police turns up and they say, you know, it's nothing to worry about.
We just want to have a chat.
Okay, no problem.
Then they say you're under arrest.
We've got to go into custody.
And Jamie's like, what, custody?
How long am I going to be there for?
Oh, not long.
Don't worry, not long.
So, you know, in your mind, you've never been in a problem with the police before.
You look at a policeman, he's saying, you're not going to be long.
You think I'm not going to be long.
Nothing to worry about.
Nothing to worry about.
And you can see why they're doing this, because the average British person feels that the state isn't their enemy.
And so they think, oh, if I cooperate, the person I'm dealing with will be happy that I've cooperated and everything will just go very smoothly because I feel like I've done nothing wrong and I'll be treated very fairly.
Not the case.
Not the case.
Absolutely not the case.
And it's...
You know, they just want to get them in to the prison because once you're in and you're getting processed, you've got no control, nothing.
So Jamie then was held until the Sunday.
So he spent from Friday afternoon until Monday, actually, because that's when they'd have to hold him for court.
So he spent that amount of time in custody anyway.
And if anybody has ever been in the custody suite, they're awful.
You know, it's torture.
Yeah, it is.
You know, we've been in one of them.
We spent 30 odd hours.
You covered it when we were arrested for that migrant vaccine place.
I take the fifth.
Yes.
But, you know, again, we were not guilty.
We fought it.
We're not guilty.
So just for anybody who doesn't know.
But leading up to that court case, you had so much pressure put on Jamie.
Things like...
You need to go guilty or you need to consider.
You might not have to think about this.
Take off a third.
Other people are going down for it.
Then they started saying things like, you could be looking at seven years.
This is possible terrorism related for seven years.
You've got, we may have to bring in your partner.
So his girlfriend may have to bring her in as an accessory or guilty by association.
And they do all this.
And when you're in a custody suite, all you've got is your own thoughts.
And he's sitting there.
He's got a nine-year-old daughter who is disabled, who has learning difficulties.
And he's sitting there thinking, I'm going to go to prison.
If I go not guilty, we could all go to prison.
And then that child is left without their mother and father.
They've been intimidating him.
Yeah, yeah.
And anybody who's got children will know that that sort of thing.
Would scare the life of you.
You know, the thought of not seeing your children and even the mother being taken away and not knowing what's going to happen to that child is terrifying.
And it's the pressure, you know, that ultimately pushes them into going, right, okay, I'll go guilty just to get it done with and hope for the best.
He was then in court and he said not guilty.
He thought, no, I'm not having this.
I'm not accepting it.
I know it might cause more problems, but I'm going to have to go not guilty because he's got morals, you know?
Absolutely.
I know that being honest and doing the right thing might cause more problems.
Like, well, there's the problem there.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly that.
So he went not guilty and they decided then, this was back in August, and what they decided to do was, well, ultimately, they wanted to hold him on remand.
So they put him in prison.
So he went not guilty, and they said, right, well, you obviously, you know, a risk.
You could end up posting another video online, and that could cause more problems, whatever.
But they wanted to hold him from August till February.
Jesus!
For a Facebook post.
Seven months ago.
Yeah, and don't forget, all the time, the offending video...
Yeah, it's still online.
That's how bad it was.
It's still there now.
It didn't breach community standards on Facebook, and that says something in itself.
Yeah, it does, yeah.
And it's still there now, but obviously, in the eyes of the law, not so good.
So I know we've got the video, so it's just a small part of the video, but this is the type of thing that Jamie was saying, and we've stolen it off GB News, so, you know, cheers.
But this is the type of thing that he was saying in the video.
One's been lost, and five's still critical.
Okay.
And that's the main reason, really, why I'm making this video.
We couldn't make a video about three months ago, and I warned that this type of thing was going to start happening.
We, as a community, should not let any of these Thai people into our valley, okay?
We shouldn't let any of these migrants who have just come into the country settle you in the valleys.
We need to be on to the councillors.
We need to be on to the politicians to make sure this does not become getting bats and knives and stuff and going, doing what they're doing.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about doing things the right way.
Okay.
Petitioning his councillors?
Yeah.
Going and seeing the councillors, the MP, the AMs?
I would like to engage with the democratic process to get the result that I think that the community would like, please.
Oh, you're going to jail, son?
Yeah.
What on earth is happening?
Absolutely.
And while he was actually on remand, so while he was in prison, it was his daughter's birthday.
And these are the parts that get me, because...
You know, you miss your kid's birthday.
It's not nice.
And his daughter, like I said, she's got learning difficulties.
And, you know, she was trying to negotiate with her mum, you know, if I give you all my presents back, can I just have my daddy?
And, you know, him having to sing happy birthday down the phone to his daughter, well, she's not, she didn't know where he was, but she's having to listen to, you know, it's awful, right?
And this is, you know, and it was, we'll get into it, but it was not guilty in, I would say, record time.
Also, his partner's birthday.
So it was his partner's birthday on the day he was supposed to be released.
I was speaking to his partner.
I was like, well, that's lovely, you know, because at least you're going to get to spend the day with Jamie on your birthday.
That's fantastic.
He's supposed to be released in the morning.
There was some mix-up.
So she then had to spend all day waiting for him, and he weren't released until the evening.
I think it was like 7 o'clock at night.
I'm sure that was an accident.
Absolutely.
It must have been.
Now...
Then he went to court.
Jamie served three weeks.
He was granted bail on the second application.
And I do believe that was down to public pressure.
Luckily, you know, when these things go online, X now is so powerful.
It kind of forces the hand of politicians, the prison service, things like that.
We put out, you know, the fact that he was being held on remand at all is ridiculous.
His daughter's birthday and, you know, speaking to his partner and then that.
It went everywhere.
You know, we had yourself sharing it.
Obviously, Tommy Robinson's ex was sharing it.
He's got a million followers.
So it forces the hand, really, of the people who can't get away with it.
You know, if this wasn't as broadcast on social media, he would probably have spent all Christmas and up until the trial in prison.
This is the reason why we need to shut down social media!
Didn't Trump have to intervene against Starmer recently about that?
I saw a headline that basically Trump stopped Starmer being so censorious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just like, God, we are so lost.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I was having this debate with someone and they were saying, you know, but if Trump gets involved, he's going to impose tariffs on the UK and it's going to make our life harder.
And I was like, well, ultimately, he'll make it better, though.
We're getting sent to jail for posting our opinions on social media, bro.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's, you know, who cares about, you know, if things are going to cost more, okay, well, just, you know, scrimp and save a little bit, you know, live a little bit more to your means if the long goal is things will get better in the end.
Because, you know, ultimately, where are we going otherwise?
Exactly.
With this sort of thing.
Great, I'll get cheap groceries, but I can never express myself.
And also the glaring double standard of the government allowing and permitting, literally, you know, all kinds of incitements to violence coming from particular people on the...
Yeah, yeah.
The excuse that it is somehow a kind of suppressed sentimentality.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
And, you know, I think, like, in court, you could see, for a start, like, we've got a chief inspector or ex-chief inspector that guides us a lot, right?
And he was sending us the CPS guidelines and what the CPS would be looking at when accepting to take something to court.
And normally, the police have to battle with the CPS and try, you know, we accept it, accept it.
Here, they didn't meet any of the guidance.
Nothing.
There was nothing in there whatsoever that said that this should have even gone to trial.
Never mind the treatment that he got being held on remand for all that time.
And in court, you could see the prosecution was really, really struggling to build a case.
All that they had from this video is he, after the Southport terrorist attack, he'd say things like, these people.
And he's talking about, and he says in the video, extremists, people who have been radicalized.
And he says it over and over again.
You know, using words like, and I'm going to have to swear because it's quoting, but fucking psychopaths.
That's what, that's literally what the prosecution had, them two words.
And what their goal was, was to say that he's talking about every single immigrant.
That's what they tried to do and tried to paint.
I suspect also they did some mind reading and said that at the end when he's talking about doing the things the right way, yeah, the right way, they say, no, that's not what you really meant.
Yeah, he actually meant to do things the wrong way, you know, obviously, yeah.
No, he literally said it in contradistinction to doing things the wrong way.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely correct.
And, you know, something he brought up in court when he was, and this is what he was referring to when he was saying these people, we shouldn't be letting these people in our valleys.
And he was giving an example, like we've seen riots in Leeds, we've seen the Manchester airport.
The race riot between the Hindus and the Muslims.
Why do we want this?
Yeah, exactly.
And then you've got the army officer stabbed on his doorstep.
You had that as well, which was all brought up.
And he was using these examples to say, we don't want these people in our country.
But it was painted the other way, you know.
Just to give people a little reminder, this is a little video, video two, from Leeds and Manchester.
and and when you can in comparison to the riots you saw over here you know this is just a whole another level i don't think you don't want to bring this to a nice sleepy welsh village we have we have The quality of the valley is just disrupted by this.
Yeah.
And that's it.
You know, it just shows there was two, you know, the Manchester airport, you got people actually breaking the nose of police officers and being allowed to, from pressure, violence, you know, threats of violence from outside.
They were released.
But then you got someone like Jamie, who literally said nothing, and he's looking at having the butt thrown at him.
Now, court obviously went on.
Jamie took the stand.
You could see that they had nothing that they could throw at him because his character, and I've got to mention the...
Character references that he got in court.
And we're talking ex-servicemen, people who...
Jamie does massage therapy and rehabilitation and PTSD therapy.
So he's a genuinely good guy.
He built the community centre up in the area.
He took it over.
They were going to lose their funding.
He took it over off his own back with no funding himself.
Put judo classes, MMA classes, dance classes.
And now it's thriving.
And that's, I think, what every community...
Well, which would need and what would want.
So when these references came up...
He's actually a pillar of the community and everyone comes out to support him.
An actual local hero.
Yeah.
You know, he's got ex-servicemen, amputees as well, who he helps.
And they all suffered when he was away.
So it was always going to be a knock guilty.
You know, the jury retired and within 17 minutes, they came back in.
And, you know, there's no way that all them jurors were going and in 17 minutes say guilty.
No way.
So we knew it was going to be not guilty.
I mean, it was less than that because it takes five minutes to settle down and have a brief...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, absolutely right.
So, yeah.
And then you've got the, obviously, the Twitter post.
I put this one up just so you can see the amount of views.
So I don't know if I can scroll down on that.
But just, you know, it's shot.
You know, the world was watching this.
And it just goes to show that if it wasn't for things like X, nobody would know about it.
Because the media, the BBC, and the original, when the original arrests were made, they were making out that he was a racist intent on stirring racial hatred, which obviously wasn't the case.
And then you've got the Daily Mail one next.
Was you going to say something?
Yeah, just that he is highly decorated.
Although he's got three medals, there's two clasps, which means he's been back to that twice.
And a lot of it is humanitarian stuff, Sierra Leone.
He's done a lot of...
Like, humanitarian stuff, rebuilding, you know, and stuff.
So his character is impeccable.
They picked the wrong guy.
Well, they picked the wrong Marine.
Well, yeah, yeah.
So, and then you get, you know, Daily Mail, you know, swings and roundabouts, really.
Ex-Royal Marine is cleared in just 70 minutes of stirring up racial hatred on Facebook following Southport murders after spending 20 days remanded in prison.
And that's the only, apart from GB News, that's the only headline that came out that was similar to that.
Jamie was fortunate in a way that he had a fair judge, and that's all he wanted.
That's all anybody wants is a fair judge.
It's something you don't see very often.
But Jamie was also represented by the Free Speech Union.
His barrister or lawyer, Adam King, was absolutely remarkable in court.
You could see he understood exactly what was happening.
He worked for the Free Speech Union, so he's got that interest as well of free speech.
And, you know, he played an absolute blinder in the trial.
But he was then invited on to GB News, which is the next video, Video 3. And then it'll basically, you know, it's just a small segment of that.
And just to get his opinion on the free speech side of this.
Do you think this was just an egregious kind of trampling on someone's rights of freedom of speech?
Yes, I do.
I think it was an egregious trampling on his rights to free speech.
I should say we got, not lucky, but we were fortunate in that we had a fair judge, a very fair judge, and a fair prosecutor, and obviously a fair jury.
That doesn't always happen, right?
And I think...
The trouble with charging someone like Jamie Michael for saying the things that he said is that it could go horribly wrong.
Do you think that there are people in prison now for certainly speech-related offences after the Southport massacre who, had they pleaded not guilty, could well have avoided prison?
Undoubtedly, yes.
Do you think they were pressurised into pleading guilty in some senses?
I know of one or two at least.
Decisions to remand a defendant in custody which would not have been taken.
That is to say, they would not have been remanded in custody in normal circumstances.
And I think that is likely to have weighed very heavily on those defendants when it came to deciding whether or not to plead guilty.
guilty because when you've been taken from your sofa to a police cell, to a court cell, to a prison cell, all in the space of 48 hours for something that you wouldn't have thought was an offence, the feeling that the system is against you and you're the feeling that the system is against you and you're not going to win no matter what is likely to be overwhelming.
And so you're more likely to take the discount for pleading guilty and take it on the chin rather than try and fight it.
And that's, you know, that's a really sad state to be in, you know, because, you know, There are people who are innocent, who did go guilty under advice from their legal representation, who are now still serving time.
Yeah.
Well, you've got, you know, the likes then of Peter Lynch.
I was about to say, Peter Lynch took the ultimate sacrifice, didn't he?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
So the biggest thing for me, obviously, Jamie got the not guilty verdict.
And, you know, that is, I suppose, justice.
In that instance, but the effect from August until February and the worry and the concern and the missing out on everything that he did, it isn't justice because there should be justice for the people who made this claim.
And a lot of people are asking, well, who were the complainants?
Who actually?
Was it just the police that seen this video and said, oh, we need to have a word with this?
Doubtless.
Absolutely doubtless.
It was actually his...
Politician, Senate member, his representative, Buffy Williams.
Who dobbed him into the...
Oh, my God.
Him and the two previous who are inside now.
The issue is that governments want to use this in a communicative way because they just care about images, especially after the atrocity that was committed and the events that followed.
So they literally wanted...
The news that people pled guilty.
Yes, that's exactly right.
Headlines, so people will read this and this.
Okay, yeah.
Maybe they were guilty in order to plead guilty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's three things to this, as far as I'm concerned.
One is, when Starmer said, they will be remanded, they will be put into custody, they will be prisoned.
Was that an instruction?
And of course, you've then got to look at the Solicitor General that we've got, who's...
Affinity with people like Gerry Adams and others.
He doesn't fight for Britain.
He fights for everything against Britain.
And so you've then got that.
But in the Socialist Republic of Wales, the police are the Stasi.
And that's North Wales police, that's South Wales, Dovith Powys and Newport.
And the CPS in Wales are the same.
So they don't care whether...
There is literally nothing of a case.
If their instruction is to jail them, to put them in prison, to incarcerate them, they will.
They will.
And Starmer said that Wales is the blueprint.
He did, yeah, he did.
Yeah, that's the lever that they want.
You know, so this politician, she's a Senedd member, so she's not like a, you know, councillor.
It's not like, she's, you know, big politician in Wales.
She's Jamie's politician, the MS for the Rhonda.
And she was the one who instructed her communications officer to make the call to the police.
Incredible that she'd admit that in public.
Well, she would have loved it if it stayed under the carpet.
But luckily, we were in court.
And we were able to sit there and listen.
And when I heard that this was a call that came in from Buffy Williams, I was thinking, wow, that's a big slip that's just come out there.
But then we found out that it was Herbie and the other two as well.
She did put this statement out because what happened then is, obviously, we put it out.
This is a political arrest.
This was a politically motivated arrest, and this Senate member, this politician, is using the police as a political tool.
That obviously went viral over X and, surprisingly, Facebook.
A lot of people complained, a lot of people putting in letters of complaints to whoever it was, what are they called?
I've got it in my head now.
The Standards Committee or whatever they're called.
Loads of complaints have gone in about her.
She was forced to put in a reply.
I won't read it all.
But it does say, let me see transparency, it says somewhere along in here that she was actually, she had complaints come in.
Yeah, she says, my team received several concerns from, received concerns from several residents regarding the contents of a video posted on Facebook.
Sure they did.
Not true.
Absolutely not true.
This wasn't mentioned in court.
The only names that were mentioned in court are the people who made the complaint, and that was the person who made the complaint and who instructed them to make the complaint.
And it was the communications officer, can't remember his name now, and then Biff Puffy Williams, who told him to make the complaint.
So that's a lie.
Yeah, that is a lie.
And let's not forget, housing, the economy, the NHS, and education, that is the brief for her.
Not law.
Yeah.
Not police.
Not patrolling people's thoughts.
And we know how work-shy these people are.
If you write anything, and you might be just an inch outside her postcode, she'll say, oh no, you've got to go and see another person.
And so, why would she interfere on something that's not...
A part of her brief.
She would have a standard letter saying, we look after the economy, housing, education, or we run these into the ground, sorry.
We run these into the ground very well, actually, and that's outside our remit.
So she tells lies and she wouldn't know which way up or down was.
She's being some sort of moral busybody doing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, obviously what happens then is that there's a backlash on this post.
This post gets deleted.
Her Facebook gets deleted.
Her ex gets deleted.
And she's just non-contactable now.
So she's just, you can't speak to this lady anymore.
Buffy the free speech slayer.
Yeah, that's, yeah, yeah.
But then, obviously that's this pic.
And then we've got the article then that came out from Nation Cymru.
We'll just skim through this really quickly.
Because Nation, we call them Nation Scummru because this is basically, you know, they are...
Funded by the Senate.
I think it's 80% of their funding comes direct from the Senate.
They've got an £80,000 deal.
£80,000 from USAID. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I would not be surprised at all.
But what happens is she, you know, poor Buffy, you know, she...
Misbehaved.
Or Elizabeth.
Or Elizabeth is her real name, yeah.
Oh, vile social media abuse.
Yeah.
And none of it is vile social media abuse.
It's, I would say, you know, from what I've seen, there may be some things that people have said, silly things I don't know.
But from what I've seen, it's very fair for people to question someone who stepped outside of their box to interfere politically.
You know, with an arrest, which isn't right.
But, you know, we don't need to scroll through it all.
We get a nice mention because we're the ones stirring it all up.
Other than the fact that this is Martin Shipman.
He wakes up in the morning.
With a big stalker on, thinking Voice of Wales, because every headline, he has to, it could be about knitting, but he'd have to put in, and those right-wingers at Voice of Wales.
Keep saying it.
Keep saying it.
If you're a right-wing Welshman, go and support Voice of Wales.
That's literally why the Welsh Senate got them.
To deplatform them from YouTube.
Because they heard the name and were like, oh no.
What if Welsh people start listening to them and enjoy it?
That's exactly it.
If you're a Welshman, go support Voice of Wales.
Yeah.
And actually, the funny thing is, he mentions that we're now big in Llanelli and Swansea.
Not the whole of Wales.
we have a larger membership than the whole of the Labour Party in Wales.
Follow him, we don't have a larger membership.
Sorry, we're not reform, are we? - Ooh, big, big.
So then, you know, what I will say about this is that it is good that, you know, they do quote us, which is good because I think they do this sort of thing.
So it's under the arrest section, which I think is...
You guys are the actual opposition in Wales, aren't you?
Yeah.
That's the thing.
Well, our Twitter tag is the only opposition in Wales.
Well, there we go.
Because that is pretty much it.
Even the Conservatives on this at the end put a quote in saying it's terrible that she's been...
Scumbags.
Absolute scumbags.
I can't wait for these red and blue parties to be wiped out the whales next year.
So you've got here, spent three weeks on a man in custody.
Mr. Morgan said on a video, Jamie's daughter's birthday was happening while he was inside and all that poor little girl wanted on her birthday was her daddy and Buffy Williams and a communications officer stole that from her.
This has been justice.
Justice has been served for Jamie.
There now needs to be a lot of questions asked about the Senate member and how her using the police as a political tool because she was concerned that Jamie was going to be able to galvanise people in the community and that they have the same concerns that he did and the vast majority of the UK does.
I can also say Voice of Wales are going to be asking questions to this Senate member, Buffy Williams, Labour, and why she thinks it's appropriate to use the police force in a political way because she did not like what was being said.
This is his Senate member, his representative.
Jamie Michaels' representative is the one who ratted him out to the police.
And now it appears she was absolutely wrong to do so.
So it's nice that they've quoted that because I think that...
Who wouldn't agree with that?
You know, who wouldn't think, well, you know, if she stepped over the mark, she surely should be held accountable.
People who hate the Welsh people and want to see them destroyed in every way, shape, or form.
People who want to bring about a communist government.
Yeah.
Disagree with that.
Normal people who would be called right-wing from now on would completely agree.
So it's good that they got your quote.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm pleased with that.
I'm conscious of time, but I want to play a little bit of this video.
It's just to show, because we sat down then with Jamie and we were, you know, we were able to actually...
We go through things with him, and here we ask him, what do you do for the community?
We won't play all of it, but we'll maybe go through half.
In my line of work, I do help a lot of people.
I help people with their...
What's the word I'm looking for?
Mobility.
My actual best friend led a nasty car accident 17 years ago and I've been helping him since the day it happened.
He's an ex-paratrooper.
He was a very fit guy.
He was a PT instructor in the paratroopers.
He was captain of the boxing team.
He was my best friend and I helped him.
I help him with his walking.
I do a bit of massages.
I take him up to veterans.
He didn't come today because he'd been in court with me all week.
He decided to go to the gym today with his carer.
But if he did come up at another time, you'll see.
After we sit around and have a chat at the end, then I take him walking.
We'll do that a couple of times a week because he just wants to get more mobile.
He can walk, but he walks very slow.
So we're just working on his speed.
Other people, one of my customers, Derek, I'm with him a couple of times a week and I go to his house, massage him and then we go walking over the park again to try and improve his mobility.
One of my guys who read his reference out in court, he's a double amputee, he had a nasty accident in work and I go there and help him with his mobility through.
Through massage because he gets real bad back.
He walks with a limp with his prosthetic leg.
He does get a lot of back trouble.
He's in his 60s now, so he's not getting any younger.
If I'm not there, giving him that back massage every week.
In fact, he's struggled this week now because I haven't been able to do it this week because of court.
But he was there with me yesterday when we had the verdict.
You could see the tears in his eyes.
That just gives you a small idea and people can go on to our Twitter or X account and watch the full interview there because that just goes on and on.
A big insight into, you know, his mind and what it's like to actually have to go through all that, being completely unaware.
I think the last thing I want to finish on, and I hope, I did add it in while we were talking, so I hope Samson's got it there.
It's the, yeah, the GoFundMe one.
So what we've been doing is, not that one, the other one above, yeah.
So what we did, because obviously they went through a lot of trouble and, you know, again, like I said, when we, when I heard about his daughter and, you know, It does get you, right?
And I thought, you can't get that time back.
You know, that daughter is always going to have suffered on her birthday because of this politician.
So what can we do to try and make up for the time?
So we decided to make a little GoFundMe, and, you know, that's raised £8,397.
And for the people who were saying, oh, you're trusting Dan with money, the beneficiary isn't me.
It's directly to Jamie's partners.
They are in full control of these funds.
So it's nothing to do with me.
We just set it up and use our platform to promote it.
And then other platforms have also promoted it as well.
So if anybody does want to chuck a quid in or whatever, you can find it on our X account.
And I know that they're looking forward to going on a nice holiday as a family.
So that pretty much ends this segment, but you can watch the full interview on our X account.
Okay, let's go to the video comments.
Do we have some?
We've got loads, actually.
Thank God.
In her book, Salamander, Luna mentions the old English poem of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.
Carousing at King Arthur's court one Christmas, a giant of a knight, bedecked in green, enters the hall and announces he will withstand any blow anyone might deliver, so long as he can repay in equal kind.
Silence prompts Arthur to upbraid the Green Knight and accept the challenge, but Gawain intercedes.
He beheads the knight, and everyone is astonished when the corpse bends down and picks up the head, which announces that the repayment will be in one year's time before leaving.
Gawain must make good on the promise and the poem explores him being a true knight.
The story of Gawain in the Green Knight is one of my favorites.
It's really good.
Next one.
Welcome back to the gun channel of the Lotus Eaters.
Here we have a model 1895 Chilean Mauser that I rebuilt from a bear action that I picked up years back at a gun show.
It is now in 257 Roberts and cocks the action on closed like a Lee-Enfield.
Note the easy bolt lift.
Lovely.
Go to the next one.
Back in 2020, Hitachi, a Japanese company, abandoned plans to build a new £20 billion nuclear power station in Anglesey after failing to reach a funding agreement with UK ministers.
It emerged that the government was urged by planning inspectors to reject the plans over concerns the influx of workers would dilute the Welsh language.
But the same government is not bothered about diluting the English.
Thanks, Boris.
The next one.
This is a friendly PSA for everyone.
Your car is spying on you.
It's now standard practice for car manufacturers to save metric from your car and sell to insurance companies so they can jack up your rates.
So if you bought a Corvette and take it to a track day, that sucks to be you.
And if you sync your cell phone to any modern infotainment system, you agree to share all of the data on your cell phone and the in-car microphone to be sold to advertisers.
Nissan claims to track the metric of how many times you have sex in your car.
Now, if this concerns you, I recommend buying something no newer than 2014, which is when the CAN bus system really became standard.
It's this among many reasons.
Yeah.
There's got to be a way of disabling this stuff, right?
Yeah.
There's got to be a way of disabling it.
I can't stand it.
Yeah.
Let's go to the next one.
Come on, Spud.
It's recording.
Hello, Lord of Sears.
I hope you have a happy Valentine's Day.
Ooh.
I have no idea what to make of that.
That's the next one.
The body politic of military elective monarchy is built on four pillars.
The executive, who shall be the reigning monarch, hereditary peers, frontline combat veterans all, the lower house and the citizenry, who shall have to earn the ability to vote.
All of this is based on an original document centring on the Bill of Rights 1689. That is effectively, throughout the Anglosphere, now being peer-reviewed and with minor tweaks, should be ready to become the supreme law of the land.
That would be nice.
Next one.
Back in the heyday when Carl was still Sargon of Akkad and during our, or at least my, first introduction to how culture impacts politics and vice versa, there was a meme.
It was either a joke imagining a hyperbolic version of our side winning after being driven to absurd lengths, or a prophetic exaggeration of the inevitable outcome when our side took off the gloves and just asserted ourselves.
Either way, I'm bemused and gleeful we've now reached that promised point, with DEI being purged, the culture shifting in our favour, and V even using the phrase to drive home the point.
I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way.
Why?
You brought this on yourself.
Yeah, there is something very enjoyable about it.
If only Britain could get some of that action.
Yeah.
Any more?
So this is for everyone, but I'm hoping to get Carl's take especially.
In episode 1088, Dan going over the political spectrum reminded me of an issue I encountered when I was writing my game in early 2023, specifically how to deal with alignment.
With the modern push to try and portray all bad guys as just misunderstood, Can't answer that in the minute or two left we've got, so I'll have to save that for another time, sorry.
Is there another one?
Or is that the end?
Great.
Well, we're almost out of time, so lots of people are saying things like, my two favourite boyos, always a good episode, when Voice of Wales are in town.
Lots of other people who...
Ate us?
You should never pregnantly pause.
I wouldn't characterise it as a lot.
Good comment on the Ukraine stuff by Omar here.
People who have never had to fear being fed into the meat grinder treat war like a sports game with no time limit.
As long as they don't give up, they can't technically lose.
Julia is demanding they keep playing because death isn't part of her moral cost-benefit analysis.
Yeah, I really find it vulgar.
It's just like, but my liberal ideals.
People are dying, Julia.
Tens of thousands every month.
Just gotta stop.
NorthFCZuma says, Guys, I think we all know the correct solution is to put the airbags outside of the cars and remove anything hard on them.
I'm adapting the great wisdom of Idris Elba's plan to remove the points off knives here.
Completely correct.
Just unbelievable, isn't it?
The Keeganator says, Have you considered starting up a legal fund to provide support to these cases of average citizens being targeted by the government?
Honestly, that's what the Free Speech Union is for.
Don't charge for the service when they provide the lawyer.
So basically, if you want to be a part of supporting these things in the future, like I am, go be a member of the Free Speech Union.
Because if we don't do it, who is going to?
Yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, I could just say, I'm happy to say on Jamie's behalf, he is so, so grateful that he was given that opportunity because the legal representation he had beforehand was basically, one of them didn't watch the video, you know, Free Speech Union came in and they said, we watched it, we watched it multiple times, we made these notes and he's like, yeah, I'll have you.
Well, yeah.
Who are you going to choose?
If it wasn't for them, we would probably be in prison.
Right, okay.
We're out of time there.
So if people want more from you guys, where can we find it?
Voice of Wales on X, VO Wales Official.
There it is.
And hopefully you're using that one as well because it advertises the event we got on tomorrow.
But VO Wales Official on X. You are Stan, Voice of Wales on X as well.
And that's pretty much the best place to go, really.
Facebook's picking up a little bit now.
Voice of Wales on there.
But X is the place to be.
Great.
Okay, well, thank you so much for joining us, guys.
Thanks for having me.
Oh, no, that's great.
And, well, we'll be back in half an hour for Lads Hour, where we'll be discussing beer, apparently.
And if you don't see us then, we'll see you next week.
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