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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1082
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 20th of January 2025. Actually, I had to look at the date there.
Still not got used to the year.
It's a momentous date.
Give me 11 months, I might get used to it.
And it is indeed a momentous day because Trump is going to become president today.
All things going to plan.
No stray bullets or anything like that.
And today I'm joined by Leo Kearse as well as Beau.
And of course, I am Josh.
And yes, I also have an announcement to make.
We will cover the Southport stuff later.
We were just waiting to find out more things about it.
And also, it's, you know, the Trump presidency.
And we wanted a bit more information to come out because now it's going to sentencing.
I think there's more to be said, right?
Because he pleaded guilty to all charges, you know, the murder charges and I guess he's pleaded guilty to the terror charges as well.
Does that mean...
We don't get to see the evidence against him?
That's what I have been led to believe, but I'm not entirely sure yet.
This is why we've actually waited, because we want to see where things are going and actually have a proper look at the evidence rather than just jump on it and say, well, not a lot has happened yet.
But can I just say I agree with the left-wing establishment that he is the most British person who has ever lived.
If I had to name my...
Top three most British people, I think it would be Hugh Grant, the Queen, and Axel Maganwa, Ruda Cabana.
Solid take, solid take, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If anything, he'd be number one, wouldn't he?
Oh yeah, so British.
I don't want to sound really, really boring and conservative with a small c, but it is prudent to wait to a verdict.
It's just sort of the prudent thing to do.
Okay, yeah.
I think you're probably right there.
Plus, we don't want to give people ammunition to then try and sue us or whatever, or say we've committed contempt of court, because people will do that.
Just talking about the case had people saying, you're in contempt of court.
I will rarely comment on a court case that's ongoing.
I mean, when it's done, go to town, right?
When it's done, do what you want.
But while it's going on, it's just best to...
And who could possibly have contempt for our criminal justice system?
Our fantastic, impartial criminal justice system that applies the law evenly to all people.
Best justice systems in the world.
North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Britain.
They're the best ones.
I think Saudi Arabia is actually better than ours.
It actually is.
It's actually fairer.
You actually get justice there occasionally.
Anyway, let's talk about Trump, shall we?
So, Trump is going to be...
The next president.
All things going to plan.
Hopefully there's going to be no more bullets going his way.
You know, who knows what's going to happen.
But it's looking pretty likely, I think, that he is going to be the next president.
And I thought it'd be useful to go over what he's actually going to do while he's in office, because he said a lot of things.
And also, I think it'd be worthwhile talking about the likelihood of him actually achieving those things.
And I'm going to try and be as comprehensive as possible, but obviously I'm limited by a time limit, so there will be stuff that we might miss out that you'll think is important, but that is why you should comment about it in the comments section and not have a go at us and be nice, because, you know...
We're limited by the amount of time we have.
But it is also worth mentioning, I've wrote a pretty comprehensive article about this, as well as the fact that we're going to be covering this at four o'clock on the website.
We're going to be watching the inauguration live.
I think it's going to be a star-studded panel of ourselves, Carl and Dan.
And maybe, Harry, I don't know.
I don't know who's going to be on it yet.
But we're going to be watching live, if you wanted to come and join us doing so.
That'll be a long multi-hour stream where it's just relaxed like a lad's hour.
Yeah, exactly.
Sort of like a watch party, except online.
And we're not providing you with free alcohol.
Sorry about that.
But one thing I wanted to draw a lot of attention to is that Donald Trump has...
Basically announced that he's going to sign close to 100 executive orders.
And this is going to be on his first day.
That's what he said, at least.
Whether that happens or not is a different thing.
But I think that's very interesting because...
Biden, in his first week, signed 17, and this was seen as like an unprecedented move towards more dictatorial use of presidential powers.
And 17 in the first week was the equivalent of two months of Trump's previous presidency.
And so this is a massive ramping up of the use of executive orders.
If you're not familiar with what an executive order is, it's basically a president's way of signing something into law without having to...
Go via Congress, although Congress can override it, I think, off the top of my head, with a two-thirds majority.
Is that right?
I'm not totally sure.
But I think Trump sort of broke the seal on these in his first term because, you know, it was hard for him to get things done.
A lot of people in his own party were stymieing him as well.
Obviously, the whole apparatus of the American public sector, the equivalent of the civil service, was stymieing him as well.
So, you know, to make things happen, he started using them.
And then, yeah, like Joe Biden...
I do think that the founding fathers will be turning in their grave at this.
Someone like John Adams or Benjamin Franklin or someone would be upset if they saw this.
Because it's now a tit-for-tat thing.
Going forward, I feel like every time there's a change of party, change of presidential, it will just be this.
They'll do 100, 200, 500. In decades to come.
On day one, it's just de rigueur that you do 500 executive orders.
I feel like that's the way it's going to go.
There is a parallel there with the end of the Roman Republic, because it isn't illegal.
It's sort of convention to do very few of them, similar to presidential pardons, isn't it?
Traditionally just being used in wartime or times where something needs to happen very quickly and it's an emergency.
But then, I mean, I guess a lot of people would argue that after, you know, we've had decades, essentially, of this sort of, you know, left-wing, big state government that's gradually got more progressive, more lefty and bigger and more cumbersome, that Trump, you know, to actually make any changes in just four years, he has to hit the ground running.
And this is an emergency.
He has to sign.
I mean, the emergency closing of the border and things like that, it kind of has to be done.
You can't just put legislation into play that's going to...
Possibly come into action in, you know, 18 months' time.
Yeah, I think just like presidential pardons, you can see the progression over the centuries where it used to be quite a limited thing and now it's hundreds or even a few thousand.
Again, I think the Founding Fathers, it's not really what they intended.
But like the Roman Republic, you'll see people not doing things that are, strictly speaking, by the letter of the law illegal, but just absolutely taking the mickey out of what was meant.
Buy it.
Yeah.
Then I guess it's a different world.
The Founding Fathers, you know, America was a much more homogenous, high-trust society.
So it's like our asylum system rules in the UK. They're designed in the sort of post-war era when we weren't expecting thousands of Somalians or Libyans or whoever to exploit the rules to come here.
Well, they didn't have the technology to get here in the first place, did they?
Yeah, and they didn't have TikToks.
They couldn't see Britain.
They couldn't see social media accounts telling them what to do, what lawyers to hire and all the rest of it.
Yeah, or the Welsh Council advertising young girls.
Oh my god!
What was that?
I'm a bit more optimistic about Trump's use of executive orders here because I think that there are multiple things that could be done.
First of all, I think that...
It's clear that he's very serious about getting his agenda sorted.
And for better or worse, I think worse, he's going to restore some faith in the American political system by...
Going in and actually doing things that he said he would do.
You know, there was an election where he clearly won and he's going to go in and do a bunch of things that he said he will do.
And there are things that people want as well.
I mean, I think the mistake that left-wing parties like the Democrats and Labour do is, you know, they get this mandate to govern and then they do things that the people don't want, which isn't really...
Even though they've been democratically elected, it's not democracy.
You're doing things that people don't want.
Very much so, yeah.
Lots of conversation has been had in the media, like loads of articles from a plethora of different outlets have been talking about what he's actually going to do with these 100 executive orders.
And I think the main point of concern in my mind is that of immigration, particularly things like deportations.
And obviously Trump has vowed, and I'm quoting directly here, to launch the largest deportation program in American history, starting from day one.
And that seems to signal to me that he's going to pass some sort of executive order making it happen, which I'm very interested to see, because if America starts this, then...
And it's successful, then also that's going to have an impact across the world because it sets the acceptable parameters for policy, say in Europe and elsewhere.
Lots of places that are experiencing mass migration and there might be a sort of domino effect from this.
And of course I want Americans to do this just for their own benefit because they shouldn't have to suffer.
People breaking into their country and them having to pay for it is a massive injustice.
Well yeah, the Tories and Labour have both used the excuse of like, well these are just the rules we have to...
We have to let all the hundreds of illegal immigrants come in every day because there's nothing we can do.
And it's like, no, you could pass emergency laws.
How come during COVID there's this highly survivable virus and we managed to completely close the borders to stop that?
Now we've got some slightly less survivable jihadis who want to get into the country and there's nothing we can do.
The rules won't let us.
I particularly hate that argument that they use, oh, there's nothing we can do, our hands are tired, when everyone from David Starkey to Matt Goodwin has said, no, no, you can do this, this, this and this.
You can be an actual government, an actual lead, but they just refuse to.
One note of caution I would say about Trump getting in and doing all this stuff on day one.
I mean, obviously, I am, at least to a limited degree, a Trump partisan.
A note of caution is, first time round, he did say stuff and then just simply didn't do it.
Like locking up Hillary or something.
He did, didn't he?
And then just on the first day in a press conference going, yeah, no, I'm not doing that.
I think some of it is going to be rhetoric just sort of egging up his own base.
But some things are serious and I think that this is one of them.
And supposedly he's expected to declare a national border emergency and order the military to help as well.
Nice!
There we go.
Bo's going to have a sequence of hats under that table that he's going to work through throughout the whole segment.
But yeah, I think this is important.
I think that it needs to be done and it needs to be done quickly and with a lot of authority because there is no excuse for people to break into the United States.
I mean, you look at...
Countries as well.
There are lots of talk about things like human rights.
Well, how does Saudi Arabia get to shoot hundreds of people at their border?
And you never hear people stand up and say, oh, well...
Have you thought about the human rights?
Because they know it's a lost cause.
And I think that when people smell weakness and they smell an opportunity, they're going to try and take it.
And so you've got to be tough on these things and give the perception that you're unwavering.
And the border system they had under the Democrats, and pretty much over the last few decades, is a kind of anti-civilisational border policy.
It sort of rewards people who don't follow the rules.
I'd love to go and live in America.
I'd love it.
You know what I mean?
I'm only in Britain.
Because I can't do that.
You know what I mean?
Like, the British dream is to be able to leave Britain and pursue the American dream.
But I can't do that because I'm British, so I've got to, you know, I'm just, like, I'm conditioned to form a queue, fill in a form, and all the rest of it.
If I do that, I can't get in.
You know what I mean?
I'm not a tech guru.
I don't get an H-1B visa or whatever.
Whereas other people that aren't from sort of...
I don't know, maybe Scottish people are doing it as well.
Have you seen any Scottish people come over the border?
I don't know, maybe.
Worth a shot.
So it's like the system rewards and incentivises the wrong kind of immigration.
Well, wasn't it that 4% of Haiti's population is now in the United States?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is just absurd.
And that's a population of people that you wouldn't want.
The Dominican Republic has been way more successful in expelling hundreds of thousands of Haitians from its land.
You know, it's half of the same island.
And, you know, if you look at, you know, we've got a problem with, you know, Pakistani Muslim rape gangs in the UK. We're like, oh, there's nothing we can do.
Oh, we've got to let them rape those kids because, you know, we can't deport them.
We can't, you know, all the rest of it.
In Afghanistan, like, actually, Pakistan's expelled, you know, a million and a half Afghanis.
So, you know, other countries have no problem at all enforcing borders, you know, expelling people who they don't want, you know, treating them.
Demographic groups like that.
So, I mean, I don't know why.
I don't know why the West can't.
There are plenty of examples, both in recent times and historically, of countries expelling, on a mass scale, people.
So it can be done.
There is lots and lots of precedent for it.
I mean, Russia recently got rid of loads of people.
Just look at the partition.
Got rid of loads of Russians as well.
Yeah.
So if you've got a government with the political will and the balls to do it and the political capital, you would need probably a decent majority in the House and etc.
Congress is Republican, isn't it?
It can't be done.
All right, yeah, I was thinking of our House of Commons.
But yeah, Trump's got...
He hasn't got two-thirds in Congress, but nonetheless, he's got the majority in Congress and Senate and the Supreme Court behind him.
So he's got this window of two years where stuff like this is going to honestly really get done.
Then he's got like two years and absolutely have to hit the ground running.
It's an old cliche, isn't it?
The first hundred days.
They always say what you do or don't get done in the first hundred days sets the tone, or more than sets the tone.
It sort of sets you up for what you're able to do, really.
Yeah, and we're seeing a real shift in the mood of the American people and people across the West.
So, you know, listening to AOC and other people talk about Trump, it's like, oh, he's fascist, he's coming, he's doing all this stuff that people don't want.
If you actually look at what the opinion polls are saying, Trump's approval ratings continue to improve as people find out what he's doing and about these executive orders.
So people actually really like these ideas in aggregate.
And if you look at Biden, his approval ratings have continued to fall, even though he's not even going to be president anymore.
You know what I mean?
In fact, they did a survey, and most Americans can't remember a single thing Biden did.
I mean, to be fair, neither can Biden.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, the only thing that sticks out in my mind are failures.
Things like pulling out of Afghanistan disastrously or something like that.
Yeah, which led to Ukraine and everything.
That's the sign of American weakness.
Let me fire through some of the things that Trump intends to do to sort out the border then, because other than declaring the national emergency and getting the military onto it, he also said potentially that he would end the policy that kept federal immigration authorities from conducting raids on churches and schools, being a safe haven.
He's going to re-implement his remain in Mexico policy.
And probably expand it, I would imagine.
He wants to end birthright citizenship, which is potentially a contentious one, because in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution it is written as such, all persons born or naturalised in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside.
And so...
There's not really much wiggle room in that wording.
You can't repeal an amendment.
That is true.
If he repeals the 14th, that would be kind of hilarious, wouldn't it?
But the Supreme Court does lean right, and they would ultimately be the ones that would adjudicate that decision.
The Supreme Court can sometimes be funny, because they do take a certain amount of pride in their independence, and they don't just exclusively rule on partisan lines, but I could imagine there's some degree of favourability to it amongst them, and so it's possible.
Also, he's mentioned about closing the border on health grounds.
There's a 1944 measure called Title 42, which allows the US government to curb migration to protect public health, which is funny framing actually, because it's kind of true.
Migrants do bring lots of crime, which is bad for your health, as well as large movements of people, it's not just a stereotype, do often bring lots of diseases that you wouldn't otherwise get.
One of the justifications given by the government for migrants in this country, illegal migrants in this country, getting free private health care from the government, while British citizens who've paid into the system have to wait years for their operations.
And they said, well, people coming into the country can have...
And then they bring them back.
Horrible.
But two other things is that he's going to classify potentially the drug cartels as a foreign terrorist organisation, which may expand his ability to deal with them, and also, of course, finish the border wall, because it's still not completely constructed.
And then I'm going to move on to trade and the economy.
Obviously, a big deal has been made about his tariffs.
This is heavily inspired by the 25th president, William McKinley, who, Beau, you've got a bit of trivia about him.
There's a sort of similarity between...
He was assassinated, wasn't he?
Yeah.
And Trump has obviously survived assassination attempts.
So, yeah, a bit of prophecy there.
I've seen multiple different accounts here of whether it's going to be a 10% or 20% tariff on all imports, 25% on Canadian and Mexican goods, and then 60% on all things coming from China, which would obviously be massive.
And he's going to sort of get them when they're vulnerable.
Although a lot has been said about the fact that these are not necessarily serious tariffs that he's going to go with, and they're negotiable.
He's just going in with something quite severe to then negotiate a better deal, which sounds like something Trump would do.
Although basing things off of import tariffs is good if you want to protect domestic industries, things like that.
You want to protect jobs.
A lot of the Rust Belt who voted for Trump approve of this sort of thing, because it keeps jobs in America that they do.
And you can make an argument for that in that it grows domestic industry.
The flip side of that is it pushes up costs for the consumer in America.
I don't know if they'd appreciate that.
And it makes the entire global economy less efficient in aggregate.
If everybody's having to design and build their own flat-screen televisions instead of just getting the Korean ones where they've perfected it, it's like Scotland's perfected shortbread.
Why would you try and make your own shortbread industry?
That's a good point.
I just like the whole thing that it's a rebalancing of power.
It's an exercising that as well, right?
Just telling the Chinese or whoever that, no, we, the American government, are just not a complete pushover.
No, we're not going to let you just steamroller us forever.
Whether he actually puts in 60% or not, it just sends a signal.
Yeah, and also China uses a lot of its industry.
You know, these...
The state subsidizes the industry, and it's a strategic weapon.
If you look at what they've done with the solar industry, I mean, solar is going to be huge for the world.
Germany used to be a world leader in solar power, and China's just subsidized it, so now it's pushed all the German producers out of business, and China is now producing almost all of the world's solar panels.
So if you've got a strategic industry like steel...
Energy, anything like that, then malicious states can subsidize it and use it as a weapon.
Yeah, you want any industry that is important to national security under your jurisdiction, don't you?
Because things like agriculture, energy production, arms manufacturing, you want on your own home soil for obvious reasons, right?
And things like steel production, which is something that Trump put tariffs on China originally because he had tariffs, but they were much more targeted and specific in his previous term.
I think it was aluminium or aluminium, if I must.
and steel and I think things used in solar panels actually that his tariffs were on off the top of my head and so By blanketly doing this, I think what he's doing is signalling, I want to negotiate, come to the table, we'll figure something out that's more beneficial to the US, hopefully.
And also, it's got the potential to raise a huge amount of revenue.
So in the old days, states used to make so much money from tariffs, I guess because just the administrative burden of levying income taxes and things, it wouldn't have been practicable in the 12th century or whatever.
But right up until...
Quite recently, tariffs generated a huge amount of money for the state.
And that's been almost completely replaced with income tax, VAT, stuff like that.
And this is what Trump's actually explicitly said, is that he likes tariffs because it means he can reduce taxes.
And as someone who absolutely hates taxes, I like the sound of that.
And I'm not importing many goods, so it's good for me.
It's also kind of...
It's almost like replacing income tax with VAT. Tariffs are essentially a form of VAT because the price you pay for the product is going to go up.
And also, the thing I like about offshoring production means that, you know, the argument that big businesses make for open borders and mass immigration is like, oh, we need all the people.
We need the entire population of the Mirpur Valley in Pakistan to come here to work in the factories.
And it's like, if the stuff can get made in the factories there, then, you know, you can...
And prevent the social conflict here.
That's true, yeah.
I mean, I would rather still have domestic industry if possible, but some things don't need to be made here.
Like, we don't need cheap plastic tap that China makes, made domestically.
Whereas it would be nice to have a steel industry of our own.
Yeah.
Especially if we go to war with China, and then they're like, oh, wait a minute, we're not going to sell you any steel to make any aircraft carriers, so you just lost the war.
Yeah, yeah.
We turn to wooden ships again, perhaps.
I mean, I know that China have, I guess...
It must be for strategic reasons, have stockpiled loads and loads of steel, like the majority of all the steel in the world.
I mean, China have had a thing about steel ever since the Maoist era, because one of Mao's giant promises, pledges, hopes, is that he could outproduce Britain, specifically Britain, in terms of steel.
Well, they've now done that.
They've now completed that many times over.
So, yeah, should we find ourselves at war with China?
Yeah, it's already over.
They would already...
It's a fait accompli, essentially.
That's one of the things if I found myself King of England or Lord Protector or something, I would restart our steel industry.
Definitely, 100%.
So yeah, it makes sense from America's perspective to do this because of course their main competitor is China now.
Another thing that he's potentially going to do, it's been sort of banded around, is maybe there'll be a federal Bitcoin stockpile similar to how the state stockpiles gold.
I'm going to use Trump's meme coin.
It's Trump coin.
And also there's Smelania.
It's also been launched.
Really?
It's not got a good ring to it, really, has it?
The thing is, the Trump meme coin, it crashed last night.
Oh, did it?
Yeah, after his speech and after Millennium's meme coin was launched.
So I don't know if Trump's doing a Hawk Tua style.
I was going to say, because I didn't know it crashed overnight.
I heard it launched and went through the roof, but now it's crashed.
Now it's crashed.
Oh, right.
Who'd have thought?
I'd have thought a Trump meme coin would be like a solid...
Just get rid of all the gold.
Give it to me.
I wonder what it will do to the Bitcoin price if Trump does announce or actually buy a massive stockpile of Bitcoin.
I wonder whether that will sort of devalue it on some level and so the price will dip or whether that will boost confidence and so the price will spike.
I think the confidence would be a determining factor and also the fact that they're just going to buy a bunch and the market would react by increasing the price.
If there's an increase in demand, a massive bump.
A US government-style bump in demand would be significant enough to shift prices.
I mean, because Bitcoin, the nature of it is that there's a finite number of Bitcoin, so it's not the same as many other equities or commodities.
But nonetheless, you would think what you just said would be true, but it might not.
Markets, particularly crypto markets, do react in odd ways.
That's true, yeah.
I mean, we'll see.
Another thing as well, he's promised to issue an executive order that would postpone a law banning...
The app TikTok, which is of course Chinese-owned, and that would give them time to find a US partner to buy a 50% stake in the company, and then Trump feels that this would be grounds where it would be okay for them to operate.
So it's basically a way of the US making money off of threatening to ban TikTok.
I couldn't believe the Democrats handed Trump this propaganda coup before he's even in power.
Everything was set in place to ban TikTok because it's Chinese.
It might actually be a good idea to ban it.
It's very annoying.
If you look at the equivalent of TikTok in China, if you look at Red Note or whatever, it's all just like maths and how to be a good citizen.
If you look at TikTok, it's all like how to transition, how to be a communist.
It's horrific.
But the Democrats were going to ban it.
And so they handed Trump this coup where he can be like the savior of TikTok.
And he stepped in and millions of people use TikTok.
And a lot of them probably aren't that politically engaged.
So now they just know Trump as the savior of their favorite platform.
And I don't know why the Democrats would snatch another defeat from the jaws of already quite a lot of defeats.
Yeah, the Dems, they're not good at 4D chess.
They're just not good at it.
They've got this one ideological view of the world and let's do something that moves towards that and that's it.
Can't even do the 2D chess.
Yeah, they're like, don't worry, we're going to pay Beyonce lots of money to sing.
That'll fix everything.
The amount of contempt you've got to have to be like, yes, let's just pay celebrities to endorse us.
That'll be enough.
Let's not tangibly improve their lives in any way.
This is new to me, the idea that Trump would do an aggressive takeover of TikTok.
Yeah, I think it's a good idea, actually, because then it undermines...
The argument against Chinese influence because at least there's a stakeholder that I imagine Trump would have to approve of, right?
To then give it the go-ahead to not be banned.
And so it's a way of the US making money and also them not having to ban something that's popular.
So it's a win-win, which is quite clever.
So on to climate and energy.
He's going to scrap a lot of the green energy policies that Biden introduced, which is...
Not a surprise to anyone.
Obviously, he hates windmills, as he calls them.
I hate them as well, mainly because they're aesthetic abominations.
I quite like them, because if you're walking on the Scottish Highlands, it just looks cool.
It looks like science fiction.
It really does.
I've always thought that Scotland needs a bit more of a dystopian look about it.
We've got enough dystopia in the cities, but this is a nice...
Clean dystopia.
This is, you know...
But do you not find that when you're looking at a lovely, beautiful landscape and you can just see this artificial man-made thing spinning?
I like artificial man-made stuff.
Lost cause.
You are worlds apart in your thinking, you two.
Worlds apart.
So...
He's obviously going to remove things like drilling restrictions.
I think what has been listed is offshore and federal land for oil.
So it looks like oil's back again.
He's also going to pull out of the Paris Agreement again, the climate agreement, which he did after six months of assuming office last time.
There's no reason to think he wouldn't do it again because Biden, I think in 2021, off the top of my head, went back into it.
And obviously it's a waste of time.
It expects America to solve the world's problems.
It isn't a good deal for them.
It's very punitive to America, which doesn't really benefit from it.
And also you don't get energy innovation by pushing up the cost of innovating.
That's madness.
Absolutely, and with all this red tape around innovating, and if you look at the left, I mean, there's so many signs that climate change isn't actually about the climate.
It's about implementing some sort of one-world communism.
Because if you look at all the people who bang on about climate change, one of the main ways we can reduce our carbon footprint is to stop illegal immigration.
If somebody's coming from Sierra Leone or the Congo or whatever, their carbon footprint increases 150 times when they come to the UK because they start living a...
Modern Western lifestyle with, you know, all the fun, energy-consuming stuff that that entails.
So you'd think, you know, Greta Thunberg and all these people would be like, yeah, we need to absolutely shut the borders right now.
You know, absolutely shut the borders.
In fact, we need to, where we can, deport people back to low-carbon countries.
But no, they don't want that at all.
So mass deportations are green.
That's a green policy.
If the greens were actually about the environment, then yeah, they would be.
I think the green energy policies in the West are, as you say, Leo, it's about power.
It's not about the parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere, of which it's only like 400 odd parts per million.
Also, a lot of the people that get contracts from the government and get these tax breaks to build this technology, they're friends with the people who are making the legislation in the first place.
You only need to look at both the US and Europe to see that...
The people who are leading in green technology are normally pally with left-wing politicians that are pushing it.
And of course, making money through government contracts is one of the best ways you can make money.
Look at Elon Musk.
Yeah.
If you look at Elon Musk, so through Tesla, through not just cars, but also the battery technology, he's somebody who's really pushing forward green technology and saving the planet.
And Tesla's were the must-have accessory for any Hollywood celebrity.
Adding one to their 20-car fleet was somehow helping the environment.
But now, all the lefties are saying, oh, we need to ban Elon Musk.
We should stop buying Teslas because of his stuff on Twitter.
And it's like, what about the environment?
I thought the environment was so important.
Oh, is the environment not important now because Elon Musk has been revealed not to be a fellow communist?
It's an absolute nonsense.
It's like paying 20p for a carrier bag.
Yeah, that will save the environment.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Sure.
It's just nonsense, isn't it?
When you look back on geological timescales, we've had CO2 many, many, many times more than it is today.
And the net result is not a runaway greenhouse effect.
The net result is dinosaurs.
Yeah, you get mega flora.
Which is fun.
You get giant lily pads.
Yeah, who doesn't want a giant lily pad?
Who doesn't want that?
With dinosaurs, it would do a lot to reduce the carbon footprint of humanity.
I mean, yeah, I think climate change is happening, and I think it's going to be quite bad, but I think the best thing to do is work to ameliorate it, rather than try to stop it by turning ourselves into Stone Age communists.
I think also, whether it's happening or not...
I think the right thing to do is the same regardless, which is not needlessly punish your society with ridiculous technology that's not ready and not efficient.
I think you just need to accept that it's going to be oil and gas.
And I mean, the fumes from oil and gas are not ideal.
They still do harm to people.
However, you've got to make the cost of producing new technology as cheap as possible to be able to get it in the first place.
And the good news is, in the West, we've pretty much decoupled our economic progress from oil and gas and fossil fuel consumption.
So it used to be that they just marched.
Step in step.
If you used more energy like that, then your economy would do better.
You couldn't really have one without the other.
But now we've got one without the other.
Now we're using much less carbon per unit of economic activity.
And the great news is...
Solar power is really going to...
I mean, it just keeps outstripping all expectations.
It's getting so cheap, and it's getting so efficient, it's going to really revolutionise energy.
And I think it's going to be great for people who want to be independent from the government as well, because you won't need to be plugged into a grid.
That's what sort of appeals to me, is that I can generate my own electricity and not be beholden to the companies setting my rates.
But also, in Britain, it's a bit of a tough sell, isn't it?
Overcast.
No sunshine.
Even in Britain, it's going to be...
Solar power is becoming so cheap and so efficient that it's going to work in Britain, not just in the Sahara Desert.
It's true to say the climate...
It's changing because by its very nature it will always be in flux.
Yeah.
So the idea that it could stay exactly the same as when records first started in the 19th century or 20th century, whatever it is, that's a nonsense.
Yeah.
But to think that human CO2 output is like profoundly change the planet.
I don't buy that.
Lots of scientists don't buy that.
Yeah.
Right.
Like volcanism and the sun.
We dictate our weather patterns far more than CO2, which again is in the hundreds of parts per million.
So a tiny amount.
A tiny amount.
Just capture it and send it to Mars and then Elon Musk can have his colony because he actually needed it there.
And also they always say, talking about when wreckers began, they always say when there's a storm and it's linked to climate change, they're like, this is the worst storm in 200 years.
This is because of climate change.
It's like the worst storm in 200 years.
So what was causing it 200 years ago then?
You know what I mean?
200 years ago before the automobile.
Like, what was happening then?
Dinosaurs were, like, riding their bicycles around.
There was more shamanism back then.
I always find it funny when they say it's the hottest day or the coldest day since 2019. Like, not that long ago then at all.
Anyway, yeah, nonsense stuff.
On to some other nonsense.
I've got a section here about woke BS that he's probably going to get rid of.
There could well be an executive order that forbids federal funding going to schools or other institutions that have DEI programmes.
That could be quite significant.
There could also be a ban for funding schools that teach critical race theory, which would be another interesting one.
And something else that has been potentially suggested is a ban on transgender women from competing in women's sports, which a lot more people talk about than actually care about women's sports.
It's just common sense, right?
Of course it is, yeah.
I mean, surely, if you like betting on sports...
You don't want this.
You're not going to get good odds though, right?
On the dude that's doing the 400 metres with all the women.
The bookies know.
Everyone knows.
You're going to get shit odds, aren't you?
Some other things that are going on as well.
Freeing the Jan 6 hostages.
It'll be free as of this evening.
Potentially.
There are still quite a few in jail.
There are, yeah.
I've spoke to a couple of them.
Man, that is such a...
You know what I mean?
They locked up these people.
I saw photos.
They were just walking inside the ropes and stuff.
Then you compare that to the BLM stuff.
Some of the BLM protesters and rioters got money.
They got paid compensation for being arrested.
It's just so blatant.
It's so two-tier.
It's like something that could happen in Britain.
Yeah, that's true.
So one thing I do think will happen is that he will pardon the people accused of non-violent crimes, because some of them still haven't been to trial yet.
So that's worth mentioning as well, that they've been held, some of them in solitary confinement, for an incredibly long amount of time without a trial, which I believe is unconstitutional off the top of my head.
We talked about Saudi or Chinese justice.
I mean, that is terrible.
Well, they're political prisoners, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, what a bit of a shame, really, on the Dems for doing that.
Yeah.
No, I very much agree.
And also sets a precedent for, you know, if Trump wanted to do that to any left-wing-aligned protests, you know, they've set the precedent for him to do that.
Yeah, it's worrying.
Again, it's that slide, that tit-for-tat thing.
Yeah.
A slide into getting further and further away from the way the Republic was meant to function.
And in the end, hopefully this isn't the case.
Fingers crossed this isn't the case.
But decades or maybe a century from now, you'll get a new president in and on day one he's just rounding up his political enemies and putting them in prison without trial for four years.
I mean, it's not that crazy of a thing.
Well, it happens in a lot of countries.
Yeah, exactly.
Right, I'm going to power through a few things.
Ever so quickly.
I know you wanted to talk a little bit about the intelligence stuff so I'll leave some time for that.
But he wants to buy Greenland.
I think that it's running a 600 million black hole in Denmark's pocket and I think that there's an appetite for being separate and I've seen opinion polls that seem favourable for Greenland going over to the US so that might well happen.
I've seen lots of signals about Ukraine.
Willing to come to a peace agreement with Russia.
And Trump has vowed to end the war within the first six months of assuming office.
That's changed from day one.
Trump is talking a lot more hawkishly on Ukraine now.
And I think Putin's, to be honest, kind of shitting himself.
Because you can see with Gaza, with the release of the hostages and stuff, when Trump goes in to negotiate, he doesn't fuck around.
And he's ready to...
To play hardball.
And I think Putin knows that.
There's not going to be any more of this.
Biden, for so long, was holding back on weapons and not letting them use HIMARS to hit strategic sites, not letting them hit sites within Russia, and always stymie them, not giving them F-16s, always holding them back, almost trying to bleed both sides, trying to bleed Ukraine, trying to bleed Europe, and bleed Russia as well.
So all these strategic competitors would be weakened.
Whereas Trump is like, Trump doesn't want to see any more lives.
So he's like, no, we need this to end.
And if it doesn't end, you're going to get hit very hard.
And it'd probably be the end of Putin as well.
So I think Putin's going to...
I think it's going to be bad.
It's going to be a much worse deal for Putin than the Guardian told us.
I think one of Trump's greatest strengths is that he's very, very good at negotiating with foreign powers.
And I think that a lot of what he's doing and he said he would do ties into that quite nicely, that he wants to get better deals for America.
And as his background as a businessman, that sort of makes sense that he thinks in those terms.
And I think that we're going to see a lot of that.
Maybe he's going to be perhaps less focused on some of the domestic things that people would like to get done.
In the face of being a world leader and being what is effectively the figurehead of the American empire.
And he's going to push Europe to be more muscular and stop pussying around and focusing on turning everyone into a transgender communist.
That'd be nice, wouldn't it?
They're going to say, no, you've got to be militarily strong to support Ukraine and to support yourself against the threat from Russia because we're not going to come over there and keep doing it.
It's fair enough, really.
It's not on their back door, is it?
So let's talk about some of the intelligence stuff to finish up.
Obviously, one of the things that is going on that's sort of tied into this, that's sort of tied into the government itself being bad, is that they've got the Department of Government Efficiency, where they're cutting down...
All of the fat from all of these government departments, hopefully abolishing lots of them akin to, you know, Mille's Argentina, where just entire government departments vanish, because that's my sort of ideal dream state.
As well as, you know, getting rid of entrenched bureaucrats, I think Trump's going to pass some sort of executive order whereby it becomes easier to get rid of federal employees because they've got lots of conditions and things like that that make them difficult to remove.
And tied into that is all of the intelligence stuff, and of course there's...
Lots of documents are potentially going to be released.
The JFK, RFK and MLK. Lots of K assassination documents being released.
Whether they'll actually show anything, I'm not too sure.
I mean, I hope they do, but I suspect that real slam-dunk bits of evidence have been, quote-unquote, lost decades ago.
But nonetheless, it'll be nice to see that.
I mean, there's this idea of...
Trump draining the swamp, or the deep state, or a shadow government, or whatever you want to call it, that he'll actually go to war with them on some level.
I mean, that would be nice.
He released a video months and months ago, didn't he, with his 10-point plan, talking about how he's, and this is a quote, dismantle the deep state and reclaim our democracy from Washington corruption, and it is corruption.
He wants to clean out corrupt actors in these agencies, of which there's like, there's 17...
Intelligence agencies in America.
It's like the CIA is the tip of the iceberg, you know.
There's like the DIA, the NSA. There's many, there's many.
You'd actually struggle to remember them all in that sitting, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
And talk about how these agencies have been weaponised against Americans.
Intelligence services that are supposed to be just about foreign powers and counter-espionised but have been turned on the people, basically.
You know, turned on conservatives, Christians and the left's political enemies.
He wants to stop that.
A war on what he called rogue bureaucrats.
This is really important stuff as well, in my opinion.
This isn't just, you know, which bathroom are you using, which is, you know, somewhat important, but sort of theatre in comparison to this stuff, which is the nuts and bolts of how the entire political system operates.
I think ever since...
Oh, sorry.
When you've got a large government, a large state bureaucracy, it naturally drifts into authoritarianism.
It makes too many rules, it applies those rules too officiously and with too much bias.
So shrinking the state, and it's only done as a sort of, the only possible use for having a huge state is as a sort of Keynesian stimulus to employ people who wouldn't be employed otherwise.
We've got...
Our economies are running pretty hot in the West.
So, you know, in America and in the UK, the argument is that, you know, we need to have open borders because there's all these jobs we need to fill.
No, the people who can fill those jobs are here.
They're just working, doing unproductive jobs for Haringey Council or wherever it is.
So we need to absolutely slash the size of the state, like Millet did in Argentina.
Because, I mean, the Peronists, the socialists in Argentina were just creating all these state jobs as a sort of, as a way to buy vote.
It rewards a block of people by giving them these cushy government salaries and then the tacit agreement is, well, you vote for us and we'll keep this trough open for your snouts to go in.
I think specifically in America as well, there's been a power struggle for decades between the intelligence services and the legit government.
I think ever since Eisenhower, ever since the end of World War II, really.
I mean, Eisenhower, when he left office in the very early 60s, would it have been?
There's a famous video of him talking about how you need to be careful of a shadow government growing up.
It's like, thanks for that, Ike.
The shadow government you essentially allow to happen.
But anyway, ever since then, it's just got out of control that the intelligence services do wield more power in various senses than Congress or the President.
To the point where they are sort of subverting and perverting the republic itself.
Yeah.
And that Trump actually says, anyway, he wants to do something about that.
Yeah.
And he had a ten-point plan, like reform the FISA courts.
That's like foreign intelligence surveillance stuff where they...
The intelligence services go before a judge and say, oh, we need to wiretap X, Y, Z, da-da-da-da-da, do all these sort of extra constitutional things.
And the judges, the FISA court judges just say, yeah, do it.
They just rubber stamp it.
And he's saying that's got out of control.
That's just one tiny example.
So, you know, if he does even some of these things, it would be great.
I mean, what he talks about exposing the hoaxes and abuses of power, of deep state spying, censorship and corruption, again, in the United States against United States citizens.
Once again, I think the founding fathers would be turning in their graves.
A crackdown on government leakers that collude with so-called fake news to weave false narratives and subvert our government and democracy.
Yeah, great.
What, like Snowden or people like that where they leak?
I think he's talking about probably like CNN or MSNBC where they just say he is a stooge of Russia or that he had some sort of sex games with prostitutes in hotels or whatever.
It's just all the players.
They invite someone who's got intelligence as their background onto their show and use it as political capital, basically.
That would make sense.
You remember with the Biden laptop?
Hunter Biden stuff, yeah.
All these...
50 experts.
Right.
A collusion between the executive arms of the state and the Democrats and also big tech.
I mean, it's the total state.
You've got these private companies that are essentially working as arms of the Democrats as well.
Well, there was the Twitter files, wasn't there, that showed that the White House was explicitly taking a role in which accounts they wanted removed, in that they were saying, we want this, this and this removed, and they would just go along with it.
So actually to take on that and spend a decent amount of political capital and time and energy...
I'm there for it.
It's great.
It's actually great.
It's great that it's even on the agenda in the first place.
That's a massive step in the right direction.
If he's able to do something about it, it's one of the parts of the agenda I'm most sceptical he can get done.
And also if he slashes the right parts of the government.
Because we've seen when the government tries to...
Shrink in the UK. They slash the wrong parts.
We've got swathes of government that can just go.
I mean, look at the Arts Council, for example, which is just something that makes the arts worse.
And it taxes.
You've got bus drivers being taxed to pay for ballet and opera so that rich people can go and enjoy it.
It's like, why don't we tax?
Why don't rich people just pay more for their tickets rather than taxing working people for their...
It's an absolute nonsense.
And anything that the government touches instantly becomes infected with their biases and instantly becomes corrupted and shittier.
Give me an afternoon and I can half the spending on the government.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have a long list.
But yes, that's more or less...
What seems to be speculated is happening.
Obviously, we don't know for certain, but we can go off of what Trump has said, and that's what a lot of this is based on, what he said he's going to do when he's in office.
You know, a lot of these things, he said a lot of things in the lead-up to him assuming office in 2016 that didn't necessarily happen.
A lot of it's dependent on the political situation, you know, his ability to enact it, and also...
Whether he changes his mind.
Obviously he changed his mind about the H-1B visa stuff, which I was very disappointed about.
But none of these things are necessarily guarantees.
But I think the fact that he's intending to enact so much on day one should be promising that he's intending to take a lot of what he said seriously.
And I'm very hopeful to see what happens.
And I'm also a bit worried about the fact that the regime, you know, the political establishment, has been so welcoming.
A lot of the tech sector that censored and opposed him before has now turned to his side.
Is this going to be a situation where he's invited in the devil into his home and it's going to sabotage a lot of his aims?
It's entirely possible.
But we'll just have to wait and see.
And talking of pardons, presidential pardons, so Biden has pardoned General Milley, Fauci, members of the January 6th Congressional Committee and the staff and police officers who testified at it.
So both sides can do presidential pardons and, you know...
I mean, this is one of the things that Founding Fathers would have been rolling.
They're doing a lot of rolling today.
Absolutely.
Can I add one last quick thing?
Of course.
To the list.
The Podesta-Clinton stuff and the Epstein list.
Epstein list!
Yeah, that'd be nice.
I mean, people are always like, oh, why is there all these conspiracy theories about elite pedophile networks and stuff?
Because there is one, and we have still found out who's on it.
Who's on that list?
I saw a great image on Twitter where it was a small little tugboat, a decent-sized yacht, and a giant cruise ship.
And it said, on the small tug, it said the P. Diddy list.
On the yacht, it said the Epstein list.
And on the giant...
The giant cruise ship, it was Clinton Podesta.
Right.
And I think Elon retweeted it saying, let's find out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That would be nice, wouldn't it?
Yeah, I'd love it.
Make it happen, Trump.
I know you're watching.
Right, we've got some chats here to read through ever so quickly.
I know we've run over time.
I can't see the mouse.
Alright.
Who's named themselves Leo's Cursed Haircut?
Great name.
But yes, we have some presidential merch that you need to get before it goes, basically, because it's all of the stuff from the Trump election that we were selling.
I don't know how long that's going to stay up, but if you're interested, it's going to be there.
For a limited time.
I don't know what's going on with this stuff.
I've only just been told that we're selling it.
So there we go.
It's here.
There you go.
Buy it because it's good stuff.
But anyway, here is the Rumble stuff.
So where is the...
There it is.
Okay.
So Garvin Ambrose says, good morning from Minnesota where it is a balmy negative 18 degrees Fahrenheit.
That's negative 28 Celsius for you people who don't believe in freedom units.
28 Celsius.
Yeah, negative.
Minus.
What's that in Kelvin?
That is freezing.
Stay warm.
And thank you.
Sigil Stone says, Joe Biden pardoned Anthony.
Yes, we've just read that, but thank you.
That admits that Anthony Fauci did something wrong as well, which is interesting.
He's convicted of stuff to be pardoned for.
I don't know.
It's a bit strange.
On the subway to DC now, drove from NJ, packed with patriots, happy 26th birthday to me.
Happy birthday.
God bless America.
Much love to the Lotus Eaters.
Appreciate you keeping me sane when the Empire struck back.
Well, thank you very much, and I hope you have a nice time.
Sigil Stone again.
I'm so sorry to see Leo lost his hair to cancer like Bo did.
I wish them both a speedy recovery.
Blimey.
You wish the COVID a speedy recovery as well.
I like how for two US dollars you can get me to read out an insult to both of my panellists.
That's good value for money, folks.
Yeah, it's good value.
I was going to say that.
I might start doing this myself.
Matchy Hammond says, An executive order is how the administrative should function based off existing law.
There are limits as seen by the Biden admin.
He tried to forgive student loans and the court stopped it.
That is true, actually, yes.
Bally Saka says, That is true.
Yes, the whole notion of climate migration.
But anyway, it's all yours.
So I'm going to do a segment on Britain's Syrian terrorist problem that looks like it could get a whole lot worse.
So Western media has been applauding the revolution in Syria as the rebel leader who's taken power praises diversity.
But just before you book your tickets to Damascus Pride 2025, just let me explain.
This is actually going to be a disaster for Britain.
They're emptying Syria's prisons of Islamists.
There are at least 10,000, possibly way more, coming out of the prison.
And there are now tens of thousands of jihadis with no dictator to fight against.
So Assad has been banished.
And they've got even more of a grudge against the West than your average Islamic fundamentalist.
And this is all against the backdrop of Britain having open borders and security services who now admit they're going to have to pay less attention to Islamic terrorism because they've got to focus on China, Iran and Russia.
So, you know, state-backed terror or state-backed actors and malfeasance and bad stuff is taking over once again after a few decades of it not being there.
But yeah, so Bashar al-Assad has fled to Russia.
He's a rare example of a Syrian refugee who actually is a doctor.
So he's in Moscow now.
And yeah, this is all...
This has all been celebrated in the media as, you know, how serious, diversity-friendly jihadists plan on building a state.
And, yeah, we move to the next one.
We've got a video of, look, there's a woman.
We might as well just play this with no noise because they're just talking absolute platitudes.
So this is, you know, a woman with no headscarf on interviewing a woman with no headscarf on.
Oh, it's amazing.
An interest in the leader of HTS, which is...
The biggest faction of the Syrian rebels.
He was a wanted terrorist affiliated with Al-Qaeda with a $10 million bounty on his head.
And now he's cropped his beard and he's got new togs.
He's got a glow-up, not a blow-up.
He's done a Shemima Begum.
Remember when she appeared on the BBC in a baseball cap and stuff?
Being like, hey, I could live in a semi-detached house in Birmingham next to you.
This is going to be fine.
So the same sort of thing.
He's told his troops not to frighten children.
And he allegedly celebrates Syria's diversity, which, you know, just saying this alone makes these Islamic extremists eligible for BlackRock funding.
Yeah, they'll burn Yazidi sex slaves in a cage, but they've got an amazing diversity and inclusion strategy.
Have they actually said about diversity?
Is that a...
Are they really committed to that?
Is that, like, we want some funding?
The thing is, I think this main guy might actually be, you know, he might want a cohesive Syrian state.
Because you would!
You wouldn't want all the different factions fighting against each other, which, you know, which...
It tends to happen in tribalistic Middle Eastern or North African countries.
Look at Libya.
Unless you've got a real strongman dictator.
Not that I'm saying Bashar al-Assad was good, or a particularly strong man, but unless you've got a dictator there holding everything together, then all the different tribalistic factions just war amongst themselves.
It's horrific.
For all that we're told diversity is strength.
I'd like to see a country where that's true.
Diversity tends to be an internecine tribal conflict.
Detatorship is strength, you're saying.
This is an interesting arc, Leo.
Or a homogenous, high-trust society is strength.
And I don't know if Syria's going to get redrawn, break up and get balkanised and redrawn around these tribal lines.
The thing about Syria is, ever since the ancient times, it's been one of the crossroads of the world.
It has always been a mishmash of different peoples, ethnicities, religions, however you want to say it.
So they have never been, and I suspect will never be, like some sort of homogenous society.
But this new guy, it's funny, when he first came in, people were, what are these weird...
No, of course he's not.
No, of course he's not.
He's a crazy jihadist.
Just of a slightly different stripe to the one we've had before.
I mean, come on.
It's like the media has just forgotten that Assad was the one that wasn't the Islamist.
Yeah, he was actually a type of secular ruler.
I mean, I think Syria is always doomed.
Because of the geography of where it is in the world.
It's always doomed to be a place of conflict, on and off, on and off.
Like when I was a kid, it wasn't too bad.
In the 80s and 90s or even early 2000s, you could go and have a holiday in Syria, no problem.
But it's unlikely to ever be...
Just a completely peaceful society, homogenous society.
Yeah, absolutely.
And the idea that, you know, the lines on the map don't really mean anything.
I mean, you've got the Kurdish bit, you've got the Alawite, you've got the Druze and all the rest of it.
And we've been here before, you know.
When Gaddafi went, it was like, oh, springtime for Libya.
How did that work out?
Saddam is gone.
Oh, springtime for Iraq.
Not really.
Didn't really work out.
Oh, the Shah of Iran has been deposed.
This isn't always great news.
And I'm in a group, a telegram group.
Syrian Christians.
And there's horrific stuff posted there of people getting flogged and all the rest of it.
And you can see here, look at these new Islamic jihadis, how they're respecting Syria's Christians.
So this is a Christmas tree in Syria.
I want to know where they got that stand, by the way.
That's a really good stand.
That is an amazing advert for a Christmas tree stand.
Normally they can get knocked over by a cat, but this one is a full-grown jihadi and he can't knock over that Christmas tree.
I mean, he sort of made it point over there, made it point towards the star.
And also they've been burning Christmas trees.
I mean, here's a big one in a roundabout getting burned.
So, you know, horrible stuff.
It's not as bad as I've seen Christians being threatened, being flogged, being killed.
It's horrific footage.
We're not going to show it.
But it's interesting to see how Muslims are treated in Christian countries.
You know, we ban references to Christmas and say happy holidays, we fund the mosques, we celebrate Eid, and we bend over backwards to accommodate them.
I mean, just a month ago, polite Germans looked the other way while Syrian immigrants rampaged through a Christmas market.
It's not the horrific car that went into the Christmas market.
There was Syrians...
You know, rampage through a Christmas market celebrating the fall of Assad.
But, you know, they're allowed to do that in Western countries.
And now the minorities in Syria, so this is the, you've got Christians, you've got Druze, this is the Druze community.
They're actually asking to be part of Israel.
We can play this if you want to hear him say exactly what I just said.
So they all want to go to Israel.
We can play this if you want to hear him say exactly what I just said.
So yeah, we don't need to watch the whole thing.
But you can see, so obviously Druze, Christians, Alawites, they're all going to want to leave.
Syria, because they don't want to get killed by the Islamists.
So they're going to be coming, just like in 2015. We had that wave of millions of Syrian refugees coming up to Europe.
Some came to the UK, most went to Germany and to Turkey.
But...
Mixed in with the legitimate refugees could be jihadis.
I mean, for the last decade, Syria has been a magnet for Islamist fighters from around the world who went to fight against Assad and establish an Islamic state.
And so you had Chechens and all kinds of people from all across the world.
All the Islamists were going there.
Birmingham.
Yeah, you did.
Bradford.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some proper hellholes.
And now with...
With Assad gone, they're going to be looking for the next battle.
Now Syria's going to turn into an Islamic state under HTS. So now you've got all these people who've been fighting for a decade.
They're armed.
They're trained.
They know what they're doing.
They've had lots of experience.
So they're going to be...
Much more effective and efficient than the jihadis who attacked Europe a decade ago.
And Britain has a weak asylum system that we've already spoken about in the show, that anyone can cheat.
There are thousands of hardcore Islamists being released.
And our counter-terror services are openly admitting that they're taking their focus off Islamic terror to deal with Russia and China.
And also to deal with the far right who they seem to...
Pay a lot of attention to.
Well, it only ever seems to be a 14-year-old autistic kid who's read Lord of the Rings or something.
You know what I mean?
It's very rarely a credible actual threat.
I remember in 2021, they changed the definition of terrorism to include the far right.
And the number of pensioners that went on that terror list went up by something like 85%.
Yeah.
It was just absurd.
So it's just all of these old biddies going about with their Zimmer frames.
Harbouring malicious intent, apparently.
Yeah.
That might dare to fly a St George's Cross or something.
Yeah.
It was just that they have right-wing opinions and that's it.
That's what that tells me.
Well, this comes down to sort of the question of tolerance, right?
In the West, sort of liberal-leaning people, you're sort of required to be tolerant, right?
There's something wrong with you if you're not tolerant.
If you don't tolerate...
You're supposed to even tolerate among you the intolerant.
Yeah.
Whereas in Islam, often, there's many different stripes of Islam, of course, but often, no, you're commanded to be intolerant of certain things, right?
So, you know, obviously the Syrian Islamists are intolerant of the Druze population, or the Christian population, but we're expected to tolerate, I think Christopher Hitchens talked about tolerance once or twice, very interesting, it's like, you tolerate something you don't like, right?
You tolerate sound pollution or something, whereas in an ideal world, you shouldn't have to.
Yeah.
And so just one more angle in the ocean of things we've been subverted by or weakened by is the very idea that you must be tolerant.
Yeah.
And this is the thing.
When Britain was a homogenous, high-trust society, the tolerance thing made sense because we all shared roughly the same...
Cultural values and social values.
Now that we've brought in people from tribalistic, medieval, barbaric societies and we're applying the same rules, treating them as if they're individualistic Westerners instead of having a tribalistic view of the world based on an honour system.
I mean, if you look at Pakistan, the way justice works in Pakistan...
There was a guy who raped a girl, and the town council then said that the rape victim's brother was allowed to rape the attacker's sister.
It's like the family honour.
It's a completely different way of looking at the world from the Western individualism.
When you're bringing that sort of culture into the West, obviously tolerance doesn't work.
It's a completely different culture to apply these rules to.
That reminds me of when I was reading about Papua New Guinea injustice, which not many people do, funnily enough.
Pretty niche.
Yeah, that someone murdered someone else from another tribe, and to placate the family, they gave them free pigs.
That's moved it over, apparently.
We probably work in Scotland as well.
The irony is, you know, some Syrian refugees are returning to Syria.
So the Turkey, I think, in the next time.
By the way, yeah.
So there's links, there's already links between the Syrian, the part of the HTS that are controlling Syria now, and terrorists in Europe.
So the Syrian rebel propagandists praised the killer of the French teacher Samuel Paty.
And if we move on to the next tab, so, you know, they are sending, I think on the tab after this we can see, you know...
Britain's saying, we want to send some Syrian refugees back.
They're not actually going to make anything happen.
This is the streams of car returning to Syria from Turkey.
But obviously the people who stayed in refugee camps in Turkey instead of coming to Britain, they sort of wanted to go back to Syria, so that's why they stayed nearby.
The irony is, if you look at...
The refugees that are in Britain, a lot of economic migrants from places like Africa and Asia pretended to be Syrian to get into Britain in the first place.
So if we start repatriating Syrian refugees, we're going to be getting guys who've never been anywhere near Syria and just they're going to end up in this Islamic hellhole.
I don't know, maybe we should...
Well, why not just start referring to everyone as Syrian?
Why not?
It's like, you might be sub-Saharan, but you know, you grew up in Syria, didn't you?
There are loads of people in this country in the Turkish barber shops and things.
If you ask them, they all claim to be Turkish.
But they're Syrian or Iraqi or something.
It just sounds bad to say that, so they say they're Turkish.
It's whatever's the most convenient, the most expeditious thing to put on the form when you're claiming asylum.
Because, you know, you rip up your passports at sea and then you just say...
Because I think at present, the UK has rules that, I think if you're from Afghanistan, Iraq and a couple of other places, you automatically get your asylum case, you know, rubber stamp kind of thing.
So people would say that.
Even if they're from, you know, a safe country.
The irony is then, you know, if that country is then freed, they might get sent to that country when they're actually from the Gambia.
But yeah, this is Operation Scattered.
This is why, you know, the UK... You might be wondering why the UK government doesn't do anything to really close our borders or send anyone back.
It's because our...
Immigration system is set up to provide voters for Labour.
And under Operation Scatter, the Labour government is moving migrants.
Traditionally, migrants tend to accumulate in cities, city centres.
So London, Birmingham, places like that.
Those places are already solidly Labour voting places.
So they're going to move them out to the country, put them in Tory constituencies to try and tilt the electoral balance in Labour's favour.
Which is going to cause a huge amount of social conflict.
I was up in Dumfries not long ago for my dad's funeral.
I was talking to mates and they've moved hundreds of asylum seekers into Dumfries.
So you've got this place that was completely...
It's not a rich place, but it was pretty homogenous and people got on.
Now they've had problems with these guys going down to the school and hanging around outside.
It's causing ructions.
And it's making people who never really saw it as an issue see it as an issue.
So I think it could be a massive own goal.
A terrible, terrible crime.
Ruining the very fabric of our society to do that.
I mean, it's always been the case across all time that foreign people go to a new land and live in enclaves.
It's completely natural.
Like you get English expats all live together in Spain, let's say.
That's just completely natural.
If you're going to have any sort of foreign enclaves in your country, okay.
But to deliberately smear them across the country in places where they would just not naturally be or go.
I mean, what a terrible, terrible crime.
And it's terrible for them as well.
Nobody wins with this.
It's horrible.
It's really malicious.
And it's all just to get...
The only logical reason I can think of doing it is to get those votes in those areas when the people get registered to vote.
And mass migration was started by Labour.
And they admit, Labour advisor admitted it was for political gain.
It was to rub the right's nose in diversity and get those long-term change in the voting demographics of the country.
So this is why they're doing it.
And they're also emptying the prisons in Syria.
If we move to the next tab, there's a video of Sinaya Prison.
If we play this, we know sound.
And So they're, I mean, honestly, this prison sounded like an absolute hellhole.
They found bodies being dissolved in acid.
They found people who had been so traumatised and tortured they couldn't talk or walk or anything.
Thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of men died here.
They found, it goes underground and there were families under there.
It's insane that, you know, I don't even think any women were put down there, but it's like Jurassic Park.
You know, just...
The nature found a way to turn some of the men into women and make them pregnant.
They spliced them with frog DNA or something.
I don't know.
But yeah, it's absolutely horrific.
But then again, a lot of the people in the jail would have been Islamic radicals locked up by the Assad regime because they were going to commit terror atrocities in Syria.
So, ISIS is back, basically.
And also, if there's a lesson to learn from British prisons, it's that when you lock up thousands of jihadis, they don't de-radicalize each other.
You know, our prisons in Britain are...
And we've got over 40,000 Islamists on terror watch lists at the moment.
Prisons have become sort of almost like Islamic radicalisation camps.
So these jihadis coming out will have extra reasons to bear a grudge against the West as well because Syria was a favoured location for the CIA to rendition people to for enhanced interrogation, which is what happens when somebody attaches electricity to your testicles.
So, yeah, they're going to want some revenge on the West.
So what about when they get here?
So Ken McCallum, the director of Britain's domestic security service, told a press conference, today's Islamic state is not the force it was a decade ago, but after a few years of being pinned well back, they've resumed their efforts to export terrorism.
And now he's warned that MI5 has had to pare back counter-terrorism work due to rogue states.
So, I mean, this is terrifying.
So there's a growing threat from hostile states such as Russia, China and Iran, and they've got finite resources and have to make uncomfortable choices.
This is his words.
But this isn't like a normal government department where cutting back in one area might mean people waiting longer for their driving licence or a planning application to be approved for a garden shed or something.
This is going to result in British children getting killed.
As I said, we've already got over 40,000 Islamists on terror watch lists, and sometimes they get through.
So there's going to be more chance of that happening if resources are cut for counter-terror services.
So, you know, this is why we need to cut some parts of the government to divert resources to, you know, parts that are kind of needed.
Although we wouldn't need counter-terror.
We wouldn't need so much counter-terror resourcing if we just controlled our borders and deported people who are convicted of crimes.
Just stuff that makes sense.
It's also worth mentioning as well that what can the Chinese, Russians or Iranians do to demoralize and ferment discontent in our population than the Labour Party is already doing now?
What can they possibly do to make things worse for us?
The first wave of Syrian refugees, Putin got involved and propped up Assad and then bombed a whole bunch of Syria.
Part of the reason for doing that, apart from getting a strategic ally in the Middle East, Part of the reason for doing that was to send a wave of refugees up to Britain.
Putin's used mass migration as a weapon against Europe for a long time.
He was putting adverts, Russia was putting adverts in papers and stuff in Africa and in the Middle East and flying people to St. Petersburg, flying them to Minsk and then driving them to the border between Belarus and Europe and then sending them over the border.
Now Europe's got an insanely robust border against...
It's Belarus and Russia.
And that's because immigration was being used as a weapon.
The Turks were using it against the Greeks as well.
And I know that large companies, particularly ones run by figures like George Soros, were flying people out to the southern border of the United States.
I've seen the tickets and the flight logs and things, that people had come from India and then went to Mexico to then cross the southern border as facilitated by...
A non-governmental organisation.
It is madness to have the combination of some sort of open border policy and a welfare state.
In exactly the same way, it's a type of madness to have porous borders, essentially open borders, and a weak security state.
Yeah.
That's madness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolute madness.
The MI5, i.e.
domestic intelligence services, can't cover the threat from places like China and Russia and all the jihadis.
They couldn't cover it already.
So, again, it's a type of sort of national suicide on some level.
Yeah.
Bleeding yourself out, however you want to think of it.
Yeah.
It's the strange death of Europe, as Douglas Lewis said.
I mean, to...
Combat this properly, sort of stop the bleeding, i.e.
close the borders, and then pump loads and loads of money and resources into things like Special Branch or the police and MI5. That's what it would require.
And, you know, in an ideal world, you wouldn't want a big, powerful, extremely well-funded MI5. In an ideal world, you wouldn't need it.
But now we do.
Yeah, they do.
Brilliant.
And they're just at the point where they're cutting resources to it.
And we've already got tens of thousands of Syrians here.
And obviously, a lot of people just come here.
They want to work.
Syria, back in the day, was quite a modern country.
My mate Hassan is from Syria.
Very educated guy.
Very nice guy.
Hasn't ever blown anybody up.
But it's not about the majority.
It's about the people who can get through as well.
And it's also about the social upheaval of having the social conflict, of having different cultures.
You know, what's a formerly homogenous society?
And now, also, everybody is bombing Syria.
So there's going to be, I mean, I think it's tailed off now, but Israel, Turkey, Russia and America is bombing Syria to protect their interests or destroy the military kit they left behind.
And Syria now, you know, there's so many pressures contributing to Syria, refugees coming from Syria.
And just looking at Syria...
In total, Syria used to be a Christian country, just like Lebanon, and they now show how a multicultural society can descend into hell with different sects all fighting it out, just like Lebanon.
And Britain used to be a culturally homogenous, high-trust society, and is...
I just find it weird that the progressive cabal who run Britain, not just talking about the politicians, but also the civil service, the lawyers, the media, etc., the NGOs, have all been actively working to destroy that strong society and replace it with a tribal patchwork like Syria.
Is the issue with the terror attacks from imported cultures looks likely to get worse?
The government is cutting back resources to deal with the problem.
I mean, I just don't think this looks good.
And I'm not sure, you know, if things get worse.
We saw what happened this summer.
If things continue like that, if there's another attack like that and it's in the summer and it's hot and people can go outside, I think, you know, we could see a revolution.
In this country, I don't think Syria is the only place that's going to see its leaders overthrown.
It's mad that, I remember the 2005 bombings in London, and off the back of 9-11, they went to war, Blair and Bush Jr. went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they were saying, this makes the world safer.
We're making the world safer by doing these wars.
And then even when 2005 happens, 7-7...
They didn't change that line.
They're saying, yeah, this is unfortunate.
It's really terrible.
These few people died.
These few dozen, 50 odd people died, whatever.
But overall, the world is safer.
We are safer.
And obviously it's a lie.
Obviously it's not true.
They'll just do the same thing.
The pro-diversity lobby...
We'll never, ever change their line that it's for the best, that it's better this way.
They'll never admit it.
A lot of the programming just isn't working anymore.
You know, this sort of almost manufactured consent and this idea that, you know, don't look back in anger.
You know, if you do anything about the terrorists, then the terrorists win.
It's like, no, I think if we do something about the terrorists, then we win.
The terrorists will be dead, yeah.
All that is starting to...
People are just seeing through it now.
He's hoping.
Okay, do we have any video comments, Samson?
A couple.
Okay.
Oh, we got some chats through.
That's Random Names says, that moment when Blackrock is so batshit insane that they have jihadi DEI programmes.
What a time to be alive.
And they said again, Trump wins the presidency against a woman.
ISIS is at it again.
There's a new refugee crisis brewing.
Is this 2016 2.0?
Yeah, it does feel the same, doesn't it?
Starting from a much darker, more scenical place.
Okay, go ahead, Samson.
Hey, guys.
Walked into my office this morning, sat down and started going through the mail, and what is this?
What is this?
This is here.
Look at that.
It's from the Lotus Eaters.
What could this possibly be?
It is indeed, yeah.
Let's see.
Opening it up for the first time.
Oh, no, not yet.
My Islander copy!
I thought maybe I actually hadn't ordered it.
Thanks, guys.
I'm glad you finally received it.
We had a bit of a problem with our distributor, basically.
Oh, yeah?
And they basically screwed us and our audience and sent them out long after we expected them to.
Right.
Yeah, we're on the next issue.
So just to let people know, if they didn't know, we're still new at this.
We're only on the third issue.
And the first time we did it one way, and it wasn't very good.
It was far from ideal.
The product itself was good, by the way.
Yeah, the product itself is great.
The magazine's great.
Buy it.
But the distribution method to get it out to people didn't work that well.
So we completely changed it and did it a completely different way.
Turns out, if anything, it was probably even less efficient.
So this time, the third edition, we're doing it...
A whole nother way.
And hopefully this time it will actually get to people in a reasonable amount of time.
No one's going to go without it.
Apologies to anyone that has had to wait ages for it.
No one's going to go without it.
We've got a team on making sure everyone gets what they've paid for.
So at least that's the case.
Gems, the inauguration is here.
I've got the MAGA hat.
I've got the Trump Art of the Grill shirt.
I've actually got two copies of this shirt.
I'm going to get them signed by Trump, I'll find a way, and then I'll give you guys a copy as well.
Because you're such legends.
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Use the promo code MARGAFOREVER. 25% discount.
I can't wait for the 100 executive orders.
Yeah, buy a Coop's book.
If he does somehow, against all the odds, actually get a signed Trump t-shirt and sends it to us.
We'll put that on the wall.
We'll frame that.
Put that on the wall.
We'll freely advertise your books forever.
I'm just here for the cute duck content.
Also in the capital.
I'm mostly here for the ducks.
Is that why they moved it inside?
Because it's cold.
I think so.
I thought it was an assassination thing.
They moved it inside because of the weather, yeah.
Well, that's sort of...
A perennial thing.
It's nearly always been the thing that Inauguration Day takes place in sort of a blisteringly cold climate because that's just the way Washington is.
I believe in summer, Washington's really, really hot, but in winter, it's really, really, really cold.
So it's nearly always the way that the Inauguration crowd are freezing their balls off.
But it's so bad, is it, that they've actually moved it into it.
It must be pretty bad then.
I feel really sorry for those ducks, they look confused.
Yeah, and look, just there in the Guardian it says Axel Rudokabana was referred to counter-extremism scheme three times.
I mean, that's unusual for the most British man ever who's...
Oh, is that a new picture of him?
He looks nice.
Yeah, he looks friendly.
I think I've seen people that look...
Like that on the bus before.
I was reliably informed by the left-wing establishment that he's a Christian.
So it's interesting he was referred to a counter-extremism scheme three times as a Christian choir boy.
He's just an extreme Anabaptist looking to murder some Catholics if he can.
I guess that's what it was.
Who knows?
Presbyterian extremism.
Oh, there's a question for you here, Beau, quickly.
Are we going to get another Beau space segment?
I'm hoping he'll talk more about launching missions to penetrate Uranus.
Hey!
I shall periodically be doing space and science-based stuff, definitely.
Hopefully this year, if not perhaps more realistically next year, the Artemis missions will be going back to the Moon.
Yes, going back.
Yes, yes.
Not for the first time.
We're going back to the moon.
All that stuff I'll cover for sure, yeah.
Please make sure it's when I'm on because I love this sort of thing.
If and when SpaceX do new stuff, I'll cover it.
Definitely.
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
I love it.
It's nice to have actual uplifting things because nice things are going on.
We like to make you miserable but I think we could be better at giving you positive things even though the market's response to that as in people don't like positive it turns out.
Yeah, white pills do get less clicks.
They really do.
It's a shame but...
Sorry, we do them anyway.
It's a matter of principle.
Well, we demonetised off YouTube, so it doesn't actually matter that much.
That's why we do them a bit more.
We're going to make you happy against the odds.
Whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
So...
For my segment, Charles Francis, a very long name, I'm not going to read all of that, I can remember something Biden did, shat himself when he visited the Pope.
Was that confirmed as an actual fact?
Did that really happen?
I think it did.
I'm not sure if it was confirmed as an actual fact, because the media wouldn't do that, but everything around it seemed true, to the point that you could see Jill Biden's face looking very depressed.
Hector X says Biden pardons Dr Fauci, yes.
Blatant corruption, it is.
Also, have they even been accused of any crimes?
Mark Milley, Fauci, or the entirety of the Jan 6th committee?
I think it's a pre-emptive pardon in case Trump.
But then Trump's going to be president, so can't he be like, I unpardon you?
I'm not sure how it works in that sense.
I think presidential pardons are for all time.
So you can go out.
If you get pardoned by the president, you can, you know, rape and pillage and cause chaos and it's fine.
I don't know if it's for...
Hunter Biden is going to have a field day.
Yeah.
Okay, so it's pardoning things that have happened in the past, but it makes you immune in the future.
Yeah.
Prosecution.
Okay.
That's terrible.
That's a real incentive you don't want people to have.
You can do whatever you like.
Nothing can happen.
Well, eventually it's going to get to the point where...
It's like being Colonel Gaddafi's son.
It's like you could be rich enough and donate a lot of money to a political party, and then if you've done plenty of actual bad things, they can pardon you just as a cheers for the money.
You're quite right.
It does just speak volumes about, for example, Fauci, that he's not even on trial for anything yet, and they feel the need to do that.
They know what's coming up.
RFK is gunning for him, isn't he?
Rightly so, yeah.
Wendy Gold says, Bo really does suit that hat.
There you go.
The camo one.
I prefer the camo one.
There we go.
You look like you're about to skin a deer now.
Yeah, yeah.
With a bushy beard.
With a suit on, you look like you're in court for some firearms.
Well, I'll be dipped in shit.
You've been sawing off shotguns again.
Randy Weaver over there.
Kevin Fox says, Scottish people can't rock up and cross the border into the USA. There's a desert to cross and that's kryptonite to blue-skinned, ginger-haired Scots.
My mate went to the Rio Grande, the bit where you have to cross the border, and he says, like, you've just got to walk a mile down, and you can just walk across this river.
It's like the border, it's not stopping immigration, it's just stopping lazy immigration.
If you can't be bothered walking for a bit, then you can't get in, which is, I guess, a good system.
What they should do is turn it into an elite assault course, so only the best athletes can break into the country.
Like we've got with the English Channel.
Think of the Olympic rowing squad we're going to have.
In a few years.
Yeah, the dinghy squad.
Is that in the Olympics?
I don't know.
We're going to have some really good water parks, aren't we?
The thing about that American-Mexico border is it's fantastically long.
Is it hundreds or even a thousand or two?
I don't know.
It's just an extremely long border.
And so it's not possible to build any sort of continuous wall.
It's not possible to police it entirely.
That sort of physical impossibility, as I understand it.
I guess the hostile environment idea would be more of a deterrent in that case.
And already a lot of it is hostile, right?
It's deserty.
Yeah.
Like southern Arizona, southern Texas, New Mexico.
It's not...
Politically hostile to illegal immigrants.
Yeah, that'd be nice.
I don't know.
So Trump made a statement just the other day saying, I think he said it last night, he said, this time tomorrow evening...
The border crisis will be fixed or something.
Or he said that our borders will be secure and safe or something or other.
Something along those lines.
I'm paraphrasing.
But it's like, well, sorry, Donald.
That's a physical impossibility.
With the best women in the world, with all the political capital in the world, that's not going to happen.
Yeah.
So some comments from your segment, Leo.
Michael says, Leo's...
Points out that in the Middle East, when they say, how much worse could it be?
It's like an effing challenge.
Every new dictator, is that how much worse than the previous one?
So basically, it's like the argument of, well, if we kill Hitler, we'll get someone worse.
Or if someone assassinates Trump, you'll get J.D. Vance, who's mini-Trump at this point.
So, the logic doesn't necessarily pan out to take out the leader.
Stuff in the Middle East never gets better.
Although, actually, Iraq seems to be slightly more stable.
I was offered a gig in Iraq.
I was over doing shows in Dubai, and now they've started stringing together more shows.
If you want to stay out longer, you can do shows in Saudi Arabia, and apparently they've already sold the liquor licences for...
They're going to start selling booze in Saudi Arabia.
And Iraq is at Erbil.
So this is a while back, this is a few years back, but our bill apparently is somewhere that's got people paid to go and see comedy.
Well, you're going to have to be very careful talking about Islam now, aren't you?
Because if you're doing gigs out there, you're going to be Leo Kearse in Kabul.
Well, I did Comedy Unleashed on Tuesday, and I've got a new bit about grooming gangs, and I don't think I could have done that, and about Islamophobia.
If you could do that in Islamabad, I'd have unending respect to you.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the bit about grooming gangs is based around, you know, people used to be like, people used to say, they're coming over here, they're taking their jobs, and now, you know, with the...
Rave gangs.
It's like, no, they're coming over here, they're taking our paedophilia.
There's good, honest, hard-working British paedophiles being put out of their God-given right.
I was going to say, you know, Bill, you can write some anti-Christian bits, can't you?
Some observational comedy about Abram's tanks or something.
So what is it with these Drews?
What is it with these Christians?
Have you seen this?
Have you heard about this?
Bloody Christians everywhere.
Why do these Christmas trees burn so good?
If you didn't want a Christmas tree to burn, you wouldn't make it out of a tree, would you?
I'm here all week.
Try the falafel.
One final one from Omar Awad says, Syrians might be laughing at our immigration system now, but if we start deporting people, they're going to get a lot more undocumented nationals than has any right to be funny.
That is true.
They're going to have a lot of people that are secretly not Syrian.
Fair enough, really.
But anyway, time to end the show.
Make sure to tune in at 4 o'clock our time for our Trump inauguration livestream.
It's just going to be a nice chill one where we watch what's going on and have a chat.
Maybe drink some champagne.
Who knows?
See how it goes.
But thank you very much for watching and see you next time.
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