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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday the 13th of Ooh, spooky, but Christmas, because it's December 2024. I am Josh, and he is Santa Claus, and he is St. Nicholas.
	Hello!
	Merry Christmas!
	Hello, everyone.
	We're very blessed to have a very special guest today.
	Stelios, you've not got your hat on, you're getting coal this year.
	You've been a very naughty boy, Stelios.
	I didn't want to leave my hat on.
	He wants to prove to everyone that he's brushed his hair this time, but after that nasty comment saying that you hadn't brushed your hair.
	That wasn't the comment.
	It's more like I was listening to you.
	Stelios.
	As I was preparing my segment.
	Stelios.
	Yeah, I wanna...
	Comments are temporary.
	Christmas is forever!
	Ho, ho, ho!
	And today we're talking about the crusade against Santa deniers.
	Stelios is gonna bless us talking about a ho, ho, ho.
	I'm right here.
	I know, yeah, exactly.
	It's the thing, isn't it?
	What the hell?
	I know.
	And then Santa Claus here is going to talk about an evil corporation.
	A shady megacorporation.
	Ho, ho, ho.
	When Santa's not delivering presents, he has a lot of free time.
	He's been spending a lot of time on the internet, Santa Claus has.
	But anyway, we have no announcements and I suppose I may as well get into it.
	So, there is an epidemic of Santa denying and I for one will not have it.
	So, recently, Santa Claus was branded a foreign agent in Russia, which I think is disgusting.
	I think that this is Santa denying at a statewide level, which is just unacceptable.
	Listen, all because I was trying to deliver attack ams over the border for Ukraine doesn't mean I'm a foreign agent, alright?
	I want more presents.
	Where have you been all this year?
	I think Putin must have got some coal last year and he took it personally.
	Well, Russia does have a lot to call.
	I stick to the list, Putin.
	I'm sorry.
	He's not on the list.
	A very Russian thing to say.
	But apparently Vitaly Borodin, the leader of the Federal Project on Security and Combating Corruption, sent a letter to Russia's Prosecutor General, imploring that the iconic Christmas figure be designated a foreign agent due to his popularity in unfriendly countries, which use his image to undermine traditional Christmas values.
	Borodin is also known for filing police reports against purported enemies of the state, including journalists, singers, songwriters, and even chocolate manufacturers.
	So he is full of anti-Christmas spirit.
	Sounds like a bit of a Scrooge to me.
	I tell you who else is a Scrooge and I don't want to hear from this Christmas.
	The Science Man.
	Look at this Science Man.
	This is an old post from 2020 but I'm going to bring it up to just highlight...
	I've not delivered presents for this man since he was 12 years old.
	Just coal.
	Is it just coal or nothing?
	Not even coal.
	If he doesn't believe in me then he doesn't get anything.
	This is Neil deGrasse Tyson, of course, the science man himself.
	Santa doesn't know zoology.
	Both male and female reindeer grow antlers, but all male reindeer lose their antlers in the late fall, well before Christmas.
	So Santa's reindeer, which are all sport antlers, are therefore all female, which means Rudolph has been misgendered.
	Now this, of course, is overlooking the fact that they're magic reindeer, actually, Neil.
	So, yeah, get your facts straight.
	That's fake news.
	And he's also done other science, well, science-denying posts, because of course Santa is, you know, the real scientist here.
	For Santa to deliver gifts to all the world's Christians in one night requires hypersonic speeds through Earth's lower atmosphere, vaporising his reindeer and sleigh.
	They're magic.
	He keeps forgetting it's magic.
	Is he stupid or something?
	I think he must be.
	Don't ask me to explain how it works.
	It just works.
	It's magic.
	In case you're wondering, for Santa in a single 24-hour Earth night to deliver presents to all those who celebrate Christmas, he must visit 25,000 homes per second.
	Yeah, he's right, and it's hard work.
	Yeah, I know, yeah.
	He's a hard-working man.
	Don't keep him down.
	And he says, And I'll tell you who else is under-informed.
	You.
	Magic.
	It's magic, okay?
	So he kind of sounds like Mr. Freeze.
	He's dwelling there with lots of ice.
	I'm not sure if I've ever seen Santa Claus and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the same room.
	So it is possible.
	In Jingle Bells, I think.
	Wasn't he dressed like Santa at some point?
	That's true.
	I'm going to take this off now.
	I struggle to breathe in this.
	Apologies.
	I hate to break it to all of the children.
	Very few people can stomach wearing the full attire.
	Well, I'm not actually Santa.
	I hate to break it to you, so, you know, I'm not cut out for it.
	It's a stronger man than me.
	So, also, there have been, uh, seemingly, uh, sort of Curtis Yarvin-esque criticisms of Santa Claus.
	Here he's saying, Santa, aka Father Christmas, is a Catholic deception to teach a centrally administered naughty or nice system of works I think?
	Nerd!
	Yes.
	Nerd!
	Exactly.
	Of course, although my background is Protestant Christian, I reject this notion that it is this diffuse network, this emergent system of gnomes, as opposed to the central figure of Santa Claus.
	And...
	I also wanted to play you a video, and this is quite harrowing, so be warned, people at home.
	This is a true believer in Santa Claus being oppressed by agents of the state.
	And here is the video.
	Just wait and see.
	Hang on.
	Somebody tag in Santa Claus.
	Santa Claus, if you could hear us, please, Santa Claus, please put me on the nice list.
	Please, Santa Claus, please.
	I'm asking you.
	Please put me on the nice list.
	Please put me on the nice list.
	Dear Claus name, please!
	Let's see the anti-Santa Claus actors outside there, look.
	They're amazing.
	See what they're doing to his car.
	This jolly Christmas fellow.
	People attacking Tom Cruise and Donald Trump, both of them know to have a direct line to send.
	Told you to be proud.
	Yes, sir.
	It's not Christmas spirit.
	It's not, is it?
	Breaking his car window, especially in the wind.
	That's just...
	Because it's cold.
	I know, yeah.
	You see...
	I'm not doing anything, sir.
	They're definitely on the nice list.
	You see there?
	This is what happens if you're a true believer in Santa Claus.
	I'm a believer in Santa Claus.
	I'm an elf, I promise you.
	Okay, what was he actually doing, though?
	If you want to know who that actually was, that was Winston Dale Cave, who did a live stream where he prayed to Donald Trump to rescue him after he threatened staff at school.
	What?
	Well, clearly the school's teachers were anti-Santa.
	So, I'm not just going to make baseless assertions.
	I believe in evidence.
	I'm a scientist, you see.
	So I'm going to show you some evidence, and the first of which is this fact.
	Newsweek reported 22 hours ago, at the time of recording, pilot encounters mystery objects moving at extreme speeds.
	And as Jack Posobiec rightly points out, Santa deniers are in shambles at this.
	It's happening in New Jersey, of course.
	And ridiculous people are saying, it's aliens.
	Obviously it's not aliens.
	Obviously it's Santa Claus.
	It's December.
	They're seeing a fast object moving across the sky.
	I mean, you know Stelios.
	You're a philosopher.
	You know that this is the most logical explanation.
	Of course.
	And, of course, Santa denies ridiculous.
	They're dumb.
	And we won't be having it.
	Carl, before, has posted this.
	So...
	The Santa believer, mental gymnastics, is Santa brings everyone their presents on Christmas night with his magic.
	And then the Santa deniers logic.
	Of course, applying Occam's razor here, the simplest explanation is obviously the truest.
	This is what the Santa denier actually believes.
	This is true.
	He's made up by corporations to sell stuff at Christmas, but all parents are in on this conspiracy to make the children behave.
	And then regular people just buy and wrap all these presents.
	I mean, the logistics of this are just insane.
	And then the cookies just happen to be eaten the next day, and the milk drank.
	And then, apparently, all of the Santa Claus is in the mall, and in the various places Santa Claus appears, are just imposters.
	And I think this is ridiculous, this wide-scale conspiracy.
	There are just too many people involved in it to be believable.
	I, for one, am not falling for this ridiculous argument.
	What do you guys think?
	I think in about a year, the way Twitter is going, we will have lots of very famous people with millions of followers actually saying that Santa exists.
	Well, he does exist.
	I mean, this is a message of optimism.
	So you think things will get better?
	Yeah, things are going to get better.
	We're going to be so back.
	We are, because the Santa denying has to end, and I think belief in Santa is on the rise, and rightfully so.
	There's also a holy man here is weighed in, So he can be omnipresent?
	Exactly.
	I mean, a man of the cloth, he's not going to lie to us, is he?
	He's obviously giving us the straight facts about the saint himself, Saint Nicholas, of course.
	And of course, Community Notes has been trying to fight against the Santa deniers.
	There's someone here saying, how old were you guys when you found out Santa wasn't real?
	And Community Notes rightfully points out, Santa Claus is real, however he only appears once you are sleeping, therefore you're unable to see him.
	And this is one thing that Santa deniers always forget, is that you've got to be asleep.
	It's in the song.
	Yeah.
	Are you stupid?
	Are you forgotten?
	What's going on here?
	But anyway, there are murals of him.
	I mean, look at him.
	He's got the beard, the hair.
	He's obviously very holy.
	He's got the finger thing going on.
	He's got a cross.
	He's a man of God.
	And obviously, in the medieval times, when everyone believed in God, they wouldn't depict Santa Claus in a blasphemous way, would they?
	They wouldn't depict someone who doesn't exist.
	That would be silly.
	But also, we have photos of him meeting Trump.
	I mean...
	This is photographic evidence.
	What more do you need?
	And if you're really demanding, we also have video evidence.
	So this is obviously New York.
	Here we go.
	See, I mean...
	I mean, if you need any more evidence, there's also evidence that the Christmas prophecies are coming true.
	So, we'll get on to St. Nicholas's tomb being located.
	Of course, I have lots to say about that.
	But also, one of the Christmas prophecies is that a grandma will be run over by reindeer.
	And this, of course, happened here in Watertown, New York, during their turkey trot.
	Around the 8th of December.
	You can see here reindeer fulfilling the prophecy.
	It happened.
	Reindeer being a Chad.
	Exactly.
	Bringing about the truth of Christmas.
	So lots of true believers have been pushing back against the Santa deniers and it's wonderful to see.
	So it's worth mentioning as well that that same post from earlier, they get the coal alarm.
	This is very different to the slop siren.
	The coal alarm is actually a force for good in the world.
	It points out the Santa denier and alerts everyone in their radius that they're a bad actor that's trying to get you...
	I know your opinions on slop.
	We've got a slop civil war brewing in the office, by the way.
	I've not yet determined who Santa's going to put on the naughty and nice list.
	I think I have a good guess.
	So it's got to the point where the Santa believers have taken to the streets, trying to push back against the unbelievers.
	Like, bigger kids, you will pay for saying Santa doesn't exist.
	And you've got to do things to those who insult Santa, and I think that they're right to do this.
	It's a very offensive thing, and it's very insulting to our culture to say he doesn't exist.
	These representatives of our culture here.
	Yeah, this is people in Bradford full of Christmas cheer.
	And it's also worth mentioning as well, there is a Santa tracker.
	How can you track something that doesn't exist?
	And of course, Santa deniers, you can access this.
	And here's Walter White illustrating how you'll feel.
	Can I download an app or something?
	That's from the rare Breaking Bad Christmas episode.
	It is, yeah.
	Santa deniers don't get to watch it.
	You've got to be a true believer to be able to watch it.
	It appears on your TV. Even if it's unplugged, it's amazing.
	And there's also this as well.
	At the start of December, as if by magic, archaeologists in the former Byzantine Empire, you're welcome Stelios, discovered what they believe to be the tomb of St. Nicholas.
	And of course, what they don't show you here is them opening it.
	What you will find is there's no body in there because of course Saint Nicholas is still alive.
	What they will find is lots of gifts for the nice archaeologists.
	Candy cane.
	Exactly.
	And Carl was also talking about this, saying that Santa deniers have been really quiet since this dropped.
	And rightfully so.
	But as I pointed out in response to Carl, he doesn't need a tomb.
	He's very much alive.
	Santa deniers are wrong.
	And of course this was well received by all the pro-Santa people.
	And...
	There's also the fact that, well, you get these presents under the tree, and they say from Santa on the presents.
	So, you know, this is what the Santa night eyes look like when they read this tag.
	Their whole worldview shattered from the mere fact that their tag says from Santa, and rightfully so.
	And it's worth mentioning as well that...
	The St. Nicholas enthusiasts get the presents.
	The Santa deniers get coal.
	I mean, in this economy, coal's pretty good.
	You know, it could be worse.
	So, sand is still pretty charitable.
	He's trying to win people back with, you know, fuel this Christmas.
	I know, particularly in Britain, fuel's very expensive, and so a bit of coal to keep you warm is actually quite generous.
	Those pensioners who aren't getting their winter fuel allowance this year.
	Exactly.
	And speaking of which, these sort of Reddit atheist types here, you know, the average Santa believer with their stockings and cookies in the snow, and then you've got the I love science Reddit crowd, and they write articles like, is Santa real?
	A psychologist's case for telling kids the truth.
	The truth that he's real, I hope.
	I can only assume so.
	And then you see presents underneath the tree, and then the Santa deniers are like, oh, it must have just been science, bro.
	Science put these presents here.
	And I tell you what, as a scientist myself, I've never known science to give me a present, alright?
	Science only takes from me.
	It takes my labour and my time and lots of money to learn its ways.
	I've never been given a present by science.
	Have either of you ever been given a present by science?
	Several, but...
	Well, Stelios is the science has chosen.
	They're never good presents, though.
	It's always something like a chemistry set.
	A flask of thank science.
	Periodic table.
	What am I going to do with that rubbish?
	But anyway, it's also worth mentioning as well, when the science crowd, the Santa deniers, see that us Santa believers get presents, they say things like this.
	It's not yours, saved by unhappy chance.
	It could have been mine.
	It should be mine.
	Give it to me.
	And you see, like the One Ring, it tries to take over their mind.
	They're wrapped with jealousy at the fact that we get presents, us believers, and they didn't because they didn't believe.
	And it's worth mentioning, this is what happens to Santa deniers.
	Here, footage from pre-Putin Russia when they still believed in Santa Claus.
	You're accused of anti-Christmas behaviour.
	The court finds you guilty and sentences you to be shot.
	And of course, this will roll out soon across the world because, of course, we need to preserve Christmas.
	And two things I wanted to end on.
	Santa Claus is a good man.
	Here he is delivering presents to Ukraine.
	Obviously an active war zone.
	He has to take precautions because, you know, he's a very important man.
	So he goes into war zones and delivers presents to Elios.
	That's quite something, isn't it?
	It's quite impressive.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Sanso also looks like he's in great shape right now.
	Look at those shoulders.
	I mean, he's been lifting a lot of presents into his sleigh.
	He could also bring arms and ammunition.
	That's true.
	But also, you know, he does a lot of work.
	He's got to fill up on all those mince pies and milk and cookies and all of that.
	All that milk, great protein.
	It is, yeah.
	That's why he's made such gains.
	And the final thing I wanted to end on is something very wholesome, just to prove to you that Santa is a good man.
	And I do warn you, this one is very sad, but in a wholesome way.
	So here we go.
	But those other times can be hard.
	I'm sorry.
	Like when, a few weeks ago, Santa was called to the hospital bedside of a terminally ill five-year-old East Tennessee boy.
	How do you even begin?
	You have to start off with that jolly voice, you know, that kind of stuff, you know?
	What's this I hear you're gonna be missing Christmas this year?
	Yeah, they tell me I'm dying.
	Really?
	Well, you're not gonna miss Christmas.
	The elves already had your present, aren't we?
	We knew you wanted this for a long period, for a long time.
	Santa gave the boy a toy and these words.
	You get up those pearly gates, you just tell them you're Santa's number one elf.
	You're like, I am?
	You sure are.
	They'll let you in.
	I'm sure they'll let you right in.
	He goes, they will?
	I said, I know it.
	what did he say he just came up and he gave me a big hug I had a horn of me he just kind of looked up at me and he says Santa can you help me and that's when he passed so basically Santa's gonna go walk now and he's gonna say that people deny his existence what?
	No.
	No, obviously he's a very good man here.
	That's the whole point.
	That's a really sad clip.
	It is, yeah.
	You ended this on a down note.
	I did, yes, but the important thing is that Santa Claus is important because he brings joy to families.
	He makes people happy and he's clearly a good man.
	That is the note I want to end on.
	Don't deny him.
	He is a good man.
	He does good things for people.
	Have a very good Christmas.
	See your family.
	See your friends.
	And make the most of it.
	You've got a heart of stone, Stelios, for that.
	We have some comments here.
	Right.
	Dear God.
	Anyway, Cranky Texan says, this is for the theme song Jingles.
	Love them.
	Thank you very much.
	$20.
	Well, very generous.
	I know Santa exists.
	When I put milk and cookies out for him, they're gone in the morning and my cats assure me Santa ate them.
	Makes sense to me.
	Magic cats as well.
	Occupant42 says, end the Santa-phobic hate crimes.
	And then Wesley1924 says, Santa is just a figurehead.
	The North Pole is run by a cabal of unelected globalist elves.
	Spying on everyone, putting them on a list.
	Don't be hypnotised by the gifts.
	Now, this is very sneaky.
	You've tried to butter us up with a donation.
	However, you're spreading Santa denialism, and I, for one, will not allow this to stand.
	We just saw the clip of Santa talking about how he visits terminally ill children in hospitals and makes them feel happy, so that is pretty disgusting.
	That's proof.
	May I have the mouse, please?
	Right, so our next segment is going to be a very philosophical one.
	We are going to talk about Lily Phillips and her aspirations to sleep with about a thousand men.
	Lily did a bad, bad thing.
	Now, one thing to remember is that this is not the first time she has gone viral.
	Here is her and her own words.
	And I will say that there are some things about the whole story that I personally don't believe.
	Everyone is going on a rollercoaster of emotions, taking everything she says at her word, saying how, you know, sensitive everyone is.
	But you've done the maths.
	But I've done the maths, everyone.
	I'll show you the maths, the maths speak for themselves.
	And also, I've got many feminists who didn't do the maths correctly.
	Now, here is Lily Phillips in her own words, and this is, pay attention, the 23rd of October.
	So what she says now is an advertisement.
	Remember this.
	Let's listen to her.
	I went viral for letting 23 guys run a train on me with my friend Bonnie.
	Now, that video is actually out now, so if you want to check that out, you know where to go.
	But if you want to be part of the next one, I'm actually doing 100 guys in one day.
	So head on over to my Twitter to find out how to apply.
	Right.
	It's an advertisement.
	How far can I go in insulting her right now?
	I know this is going on YouTube.
	It's a free country.
	I'd like to think so.
	I'm not going to call her that SL word.
	Can I use the British slang for it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Maybe I'm bad company and we will talk about bad company because she mentioned the name Bonnie and almost no one is talking about it and we are going to talk about it.
	What a slag.
	And let us.
	What a slag.
	It does annoy me that lots of people are talking about this and basically running PR for her, because she is going to make money off of this, everyone complaining about it.
	And that's probably why she's doing it, it's just a publicity stunt.
	Well, it's a business, she's having an ad about her business, she's hooking people to watch her...
	Her business is called prostitution.
	She's hooking people on her OnlyFans account.
	She's habituating people.
	And she's treating this like a drug for people who are gonna pay her to do things like that.
	It's a business.
	And she is advertising this.
	If you see what happened here, we had this Josh Peters who had this documentary about her before and after, and really weirdly towards the end he said, I didn't expect her to feel that bad after.
	I mean, what on earth did you expect her to feel like?
	What they were saying here is things like they did no vetting process.
	I find this absolutely hard to believe.
	No DBS check, no desk barring check process.
	What about checks for diseases?
	Yeah.
	And come on.
	I absolutely don't believe it.
	So, again, it's a business.
	People do this for money.
	She is doing it for money, clearly.
	So, if she's going to do something like that, it's not going to be an unvetted thing.
	Josh Peters, that description, what productions is that called?
	What's that called?
	I don't know.
	What do you mean?
	No, no, no.
	On the right...
	Yes, something with a goon.
	Goon Squad Productions.
	No wonder he didn't think it was going to be so bad by the end.
	Yes, right.
	So after this, I'm not going to play it because everyone has watched it.
	To be honest, I think there's no need to repeat it.
	She says several things like it's not for weak girls.
	This is obvious BS. Actually, strong girls have character and don't do things like that.
	She goes on to mention types of girls.
	She says it's like being a prostitute.
	And she said also that it's more intense than she thought it might have been.
	She clearly can't conceptualize what happened.
	And then she's talking about it.
	She's saying that it felt robotic.
	She was disassociated after the 30th person she forgot.
	Who was there with her and also that she felt sad for letting some of them down.
	Now, personal opinion, she obviously doesn't feel good about it.
	Obviously something's going on.
	She hasn't been able to conceptualize it yet.
	Maybe she has, but she doesn't want to say it.
	But maybe she hasn't conceptualized it yet, but her whole being screams, I'd made a mistake.
	Well, clearly, what I spoke about when I did a daily video on this that you should watch is that we understand that sex is something special, something intimate that should really only be done between people who are...
	Intimate with one another, right?
	And that means an emotional connection as well.
	She's been spat out and chewed up and used like just an object.
	She's just allowed herself to be used by an object.
	But by her own sense of morality, that being purely consent-based, she said yes?
	Everybody involved said yes, so really, by her own moral standards, there's nothing wrong with what just happened, which is why she's unable to really put into words why it is that she feels so bad.
	I think that she's a low-quality person making low-quality decisions, and no one should care about her, and by talking about it, we're only giving her publicity to allow her to make more money, and it plays into exactly the kind of thing that she wanted in doing this publicity stunt in the first place.
	Well, I think that this omits something really basic, that there's a whole industry behind it, and it is because people don't talk about it that things like that go on.
	So, I think that people who say, you know, don't give it oxygen, it already has oxygen.
	It's just that by now we're just finding about it, because the amount of money that's behind this is ridiculous, it's extreme.
	Well, the point that I made as well was that rags like the Daily Mail love to run puff pieces on so-and-so random woman who managed to make millions off of OnlyFans because she signed up and became an overnight hit.
	Presumably because some algorithm or somebody in charge of OnlyFans decided we need a new success story to use to advertise the platform.
	Because like 99% of the women on the platform make pennies.
	Make absolute pennies.
	But these kinds of advertisements are put out there.
	So more and more young girls who are stupid, who don't know any better, who think it will be easy money, will sign up to it.
	And then they do.
	They debase themselves.
	They make pennies.
	And they're humiliated.
	If nothing else, this is a good picture of what it's actually like for these big creators.
	Because behind all of the glitz and glamour, what they put out to the public, these are deeply broken people.
	And I know that you can say, well, yeah, you should know that they're broken anyway, why else would they be doing this?
	But the fact of the matter is that it's advertised two young girls who are too young to really know the consequences around them.
	I do agree with you there that, you know, obviously I don't agree with it in the first place and it shouldn't be advertised, shouldn't...
	And it's also worth mentioning as well that the men involved in this are not off the hook.
	Her parents are not off the hook.
	Oh yeah.
	All the men involved in these stunts.
	Disgusting.
	Like, imagine being the hundredth man as well, and you go home and look yourself in the mirror.
	It's like, you're a disgusting animal and you should be ashamed of yourself.
	And also the men that pay for this sort of stuff as well.
	I don't understand why you do that.
	How hard is it just to be a normal human being?
	It is vile.
	Right.
	So there are several perspectives here with respect to the kind of responsibility that she has.
	I have three categories.
	One is the category of people that say she's totally responsible for it at 100%.
	The other category says not at all.
	She is the victim.
	And the third category is that she is and she isn't, which personally, I will say that I don't know.
	I don't know the specifics of the case, but I'm willing for methodological reasons to embrace the third one.
	In some cases she is responsible, for some other things she isn't.
	They're all 100% responsible.
	Everybody involved, including the documentary filmmakers, who really, I know you wouldn't expect it from Goon Squad Productions, should have done everything that they can to prevent her going ahead with this.
	Right, so let me just say freedom requires responsibility.
	She cannot just say that she's the victim because it looks like, and I will show you some stuff, it looks like there wasn't any necessity for her to do this.
	And there are bad people out there.
	There are people who want to take advantage of other people.
	That doesn't mean that you have to let them if it's up to you.
	And I don't know.
	Personally, I mean, responsibility-wise, I don't know the exact specifics of the case.
	I'm not going to be a judge on this.
	I will say I don't know.
	But it seems to me that the most safe assumption is this, that one.
	Right.
	After this, it looks like she goes for another ad to say that she's going to do this with 1,000.
	So she's going to break the barrier.
	Right.
	A barrier.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's just like someone saying, I'm going to be the person who consumes in one sitting the most amount of excrement possible.
	It's like, who wants to break that record?
	There's a reason that record's not been broken, because it's gross.
	But also, we need to remember that, as Harry said, lots of women who do OnlyFans don't make the kind of money she does.
	What she's doing here is called intangible capital.
	She wants the reputation.
	When she has that reputation, the channel is going to explode even more than it already has because people are going to say she is the girl who broke that record.
	It's like the reputation of a business in a logistical account.
	Not logistical, in accounting.
	There's a special place in ledgers where they're talking about immaterial capital.
	It's like getting a reputation as the guy who pissed himself in the local swimming pool, though, isn't it?
	It's not a reputation you want.
	Right, so I have some calculations to make to say why I basically don't believe it.
	Right, she said she slept with 100 people in 840 minutes, which is 14 hours.
	That would leave her with, let's say, 8.4 minutes per person.
	8.4 minutes for one dude.
	That's plenty of time, surely.
	That's also got to include changeovers.
	I imagine it's not like a baton race, where it's just a smooth handover, one in, one out.
	It's a waste of time for them as well.
	From an operational standpoint...
	I'm sorry.
	Right, from an operational standpoint, it's 24 hours times 60 minutes.
	We have 1440 minutes, 1440 minutes.
	We're divided by 8.4 minutes.
	It goes to literally 171.4 persons average.
	It's not going to work.
	Right, so for it to work...
	Are you trying to get yourself signed up as some kind of advisor?
	No, no, I'm just showing how all this is just nonsense.
	So any of these 1,000 men who are going to be signing up know that you're just going to be getting...
	All of that's nonsense.
	Also, I found some feminists online who literally can't do math.
	Here we have 24 hours times 3,600, which are the second in an hour.
	You know what I always say about whorish women?
	Their main flaw is their inability to do logistics.
	Logistics.
	That's why they have pimps normally.
	We have 86,400 seconds per day.
	If we divide it to 1,000 people, it's going to be 86.4.
	Now, lots of feminists were saying it's 1 minute 44 seconds, but they forgot that that's a percentage.
	It's 144 divided by 100, which is 1.44 times 60, which is 86.4 seconds.
	I didn't expect this much maths.
	From an operational standpoint, it's pure nonsense.
	Right, so let me just give you some data because it is actually pretty obvious that all this is done for immaterial capital of the OnlyFans account.
	She was originally from Derbyshire.
	She started in the OnlyFans industry at the age of 18, making 2k in just 24 hours.
	See, I don't believe that those kinds of cases come up naturally.
	I believe that every so often, in all likelihood, these people will be boosted so that OnlyFans, the company, can say that they've got these amazing overnight success stories that they can use to advertise the platform.
	She's got porn mental.
	She has mental, which is Bonnie Blue.
	And the issue here is that I watched an interview.
	I watched it, so you don't have to, at the Charlotte...
	What?
	At the Lottie Moss podcast.
	Oh, right.
	You watched a podcast talking about it.
	Okay.
	Not all of it, but I watched some parts of it.
	Estelle just needed to save time for some other research.
	It's from Lottie Moss, which is the, I think, half-sister of Kate Moss.
	Yeah, that was an interesting podcast, but it shows how literally Some people, they could be good people, can have bad company.
	And bad company is the road to bad habits.
	And habits sometimes are really difficult to break.
	Now, speaking of habits, you should definitely visit Lotus Cedars.
	With £5 per month, you could subscribe on our website and watch lovely videos like Symposium 29 and 30 that we did with Carl on Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics.
	And here Aristotle is talking about the importance of habitation.
	And how with good habits we can actually transform our lives into being a good life.
	And when good habits are combined with the grasping of practical wisdom, of prudence, they turn into moral virtues.
	Home after Aristotle.
	Yeah, my mathematical calculations.
	What would Aristotle have to say about this situation?
	Aristotle would say that she has bad company, she has developed bad habits, and he would actually watch the podcast with me.
	He would watch the Lottie Moss podcast.
	I think what we would hear...
	Would he call her a slag?
	He would say, bitches be cray.
	Ho's mad.
	Ho's mad, yeah.
	I think he would tell her basically that something like prudence is knowledge of good ends and the ability to deliberate about them and young lass maybe sleeping with a thousand men in a day is not a particularly...
	I don't think she'd understand any of that.
	Right, so I've clipped two parts of this interview since our segment is now coming towards an end.
	I want you to listen to what she's telling poor Lottie Moss.
	So you've actually only been in the adult industry for a year.
	Yes.
	Do you think you have to do something outrageous in order to be successful now?
	Do you feel like you have to keep stepping it up now in terms of like every single time you just have to be quite controversial?
	For sure.
	If you're going to be basic, expect basic money.
	Yeah.
	Too many people...
	That's it.
	If you're going to be basic, expect basic money.
	So what's going on is that in that industry now, we have lots of people entering and they're told that unless they go up to something extreme and compete with each other for doing something that will stand out, they're not going to make it.
	I also liked the fact that Kate Moss's sister has the British equivalent of a Valley Girl accent.
	That is awful.
	Everything is insufferable to do with this.
	The accent.
	Yes.
	It's not that insufferable.
	Oh, come on.
	What?
	I've got an ear for accents, perhaps.
	Yeah, and basically she was saying things like, sex is just like cricket.
	She ever played cricket before?
	I don't know.
	Cricket's really boring as well.
	Weird analogy.
	It's in October at some point.
	She's talking about her goals and she said, I want to break, beat the world record at some point, 948 men a day.
	So what happens is that these two lasses are together and they're competing each other.
	Probably, you know, they have been groomed into this and they're trying to out-compete each other as to who's going to sleep with most men.
	Right, so I want to say that there are several cultural remarks that we have to make which remind me of Plato's Republic.
	So he says that in some societies there are several people who are trying to erode public morality and they call shame, silliness, they drive it into disgrace and exile, they call self-control cowardice and expel it with abuse.
	They call insolence, good breeding, license, liberty, extravagance, generosity, and shamelessness, courage.
	Literally, he is describing what we are viewing right now.
	Shameless people being told that they are courageous.
	Shunning law-abiding citizens are servile and contemptible.
	Inability to distinguish between good and evil desires.
	Teachers fear and ponder to the pupils.
	And you find that the minds of the citizens become so sensitive that the least vestige of restraint is restrained as intolerable and is presented as anarchy.
	So whatever degree of responsibility she has, I think she does have a share of it.
	We do live in a culture that, to a very large extent, identifies the human being with the body and says that human liberation is bodily liberation and liberation of bodily urges.
	So the idea is that for you to be free in those circles, you have to essentially become a slave of your passions.
	I think that this is very dangerous.
	And I will say this here...
	I will say here that this reminds me of some philosophical debates about autonomy and heteronomy, because there are some cases where people are behaving in ways where they're overtly harming themselves.
	And that's where there's significant debate with respect to whether they can be morally responsible or not and whether there is a kind of culpability to their actions.
	And if not, and if there is, maybe other people should intervene.
	And I will say this.
	This is a big question.
	I haven't decided yet because I don't know the specific case yet.
	But there are some people who say, well, just don't do nothing.
	And some others have the Saudi approach.
	And I will tell you here this.
	This is the story of a man who was 1,344 pounds.
	People can watch on a website and click on it.
	And you see that the Saudi king at some point said, this is just really bad.
	And we need to help this person.
	This is an obvious case of self-harm.
	They broke the wall.
	They put him on a diet.
	And now he is surprisingly very healthy.
	And this is a success story.
	Very healthy?
	Is that possible?
	He has actually sustained it.
	This is more benevolent than anything any Western government has done in decades.
	I like how he's descending in a bed as well.
	He looks like a caricature of some old Arabian king, actually.
	Like they're about to start worshipping him.
	It reminds me of 300, where he's on the...
	No, I'm just saying this because I wanted to show you the philosophical debates and philosophical dimensions of the issue and I want to, let's say, improve the discussions that have already taken place about her because the whole internet is talking about her.
	So, thank you.
	Still a slag though.
	Let's see what the rumble rants have to say about the slag.
	Go on, Salios.
	We've got some reading to do.
	A lot of people have had a lot to say about El Slag.
	Right.
	Only 1,440 minutes in a day.
	A thousand in a day means about a minute each plus transition times.
	I like that there's some contingency planning there.
	As guy number 998, he plans on bringing a Bible and filibustering by reading Paul's first letter to the Corinthians.
	The engaged few.
	Anyone taking bets on how long until Lily goes on the Maury show and starts crying as she's told that the 18th man she has had tested isn't the father of one of the 11 kids who fell out of her.
	Connor's smug mug.
	Her parents are a problem, especially when you consider her mother is her head of finance.
	That's disgusting.
	That's horrible.
	That's genuinely disgusting.
	But she said they're very supportive.
	That's even more disgusting.
	Imagine being a father, right?
	Yeah.
	Imagine being a father and not only tolerating that your daughter does that, but encouraging it and supporting it.
	That means that you are disgusting.
	A. Miller112, technically it is a baton race.
	Had someone picked up on that.
	Z-Ranks.
	Too many are quick to strip women of their agency and accountability to safeguard their public image.
	Such people are great to generate their exhibiting neither kindness nor compassion for Lily.
	Absolutely, because agency is the way to actually improve the situation.
	That's why I was so harsh about her.
	Yeah, she's utter scum and deserves to suffer for what she's done.
	Dragon Lady Chris.
	I can't help picturing a hundred naked guys standing around with tickets in their hands and hair curling out.
	Now serving number 18. Like a post office.
	Like the McDonald's, you know, where you take the plastic.
	No.
	Yeah, the men are not exempt either.
	I saw a video as well of a man who found out the news that he'd be sleeping with her, with his girlfriend, who, he went in to give her a kiss and she went like that.
	I was like, she's clearly not comfortable with this.
	And why would she be?
	The engaged few.
	I think we all need a course of antibiotics after this segment.
	Makes me wonder which of the 100th line was the first to hear an echo down here.
	Yeah, it's not just her making money.
	It's also a health problem, because she is obviously spreading diseases there.
	No amount of testing is 100%, and with 1,000 people, it is inevitable that she'll get something.
	Josh, are you maybe calling for a new lockdown?
	Yeah, lockdown a vagina.
	Okay.
	Again, the engaged few.
	Carl talked up Stelius' segment last night.
	Glad to see that Stelius has lived up to it.
	Thank you.
	That's a random name.
	I love how Josh and Harry look like two disapproving fathers.
	Also, you guys should look into the sugar baby industry, which is incredibly predatory in young women.
	Lots of shady stuff.
	Dear Lord.
	That sounds like a horrible segment to look into.
	And yet, if I was her father, I'd disown it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, I'm not having a whore in my home.
	This is one of those things where it's like that post where it says women will do things like this and wonder why every society in history has had massive restrictions on women's autonomy.
	Anyway, let me just have a little sippy.
	Alright.
	Now onto the serious news, gents.
	We've had Santa Denial, which is serious news, to be fair.
	We've had Ho Ho Ho's, which is Stelios' favourite kind of news.
	Now we're going to look into the dark side of global governance and the people who are actually controlling the world.
	Because, for a long time, I've heard people talking about this company called Palantir.
	Whenever some big...
	Government initiative begins.
	I see people commenting on things saying that, oh great, well this is going to be another contract for Palantir to gobble up.
	And I always thought to myself, well who are these guys and why do people seem so distrustful of them?
	So in preparation for this, I've taken the past week or so to start looking into them, and I will say, having looked into them, I also am very wary of them, do not trust them, and think they are an incredibly shady organisation.
	So who are Palantir?
	Well, they're essentially a spyware and AI digital infrastructure company that produce a number of different products that are mainly sold to governments and government agencies to help them in whatever goal it is that they're pursuing at the time.
	So you can go onto their website and find a little bit of this sort of information.
	where they're talking about their focus on creating the world's best user experiences for working with data empowers people to ask and answer complex questions building platforms for integrating managing and securing data on top of which we layer applications for fully interactive human driven machine assisted analysis they're a big company behind the LLM the language learning model so a lot of you things like um I think ChatGPT and other AI chat helpers work off of LLMs.
	Palantir are a big company behind this.
	And you can see some of the platforms that they have.
	These are their four main platforms.
	They've got AIP, They've got Foundry, they've got Gotham, and they've got Apollo.
	The most important one I want to look at here, just very briefly, is the Gotham software, which is used as part of AI digital weapons systems.
	It's also quite a sinister name considering in the Batman universe of which Gotham City is, you know, a setting, they have the device which uses everyone's phones to create a 3D map of the entire city.
	Yes, which is the sort of thing that the CEO of this company, a man called Alex Karp, who we'll get into a little bit more later, because given that he is the head of this company, that makes him one of the most powerful men in the world, I think it's pretty reasonable to want to know who he is, what he's after, what drives him, what motivates him, what his end goals are.
	So he would not care too much about you comparing it that way.
	He would say, yeah, sounds about right, tough luck.
	If you don't like that, get over it.
	They're very, very brazen, or at least he is very brazen, about the fact that his company has been used as spyware, and he says that this is a very good thing.
	And again, some of the things that they do, as we'll find out, seem to be based around managing outcomes for governments that you could see as being beneficial to the government.
	So, for instance, they help ICE, they help...
	They want to help track down in the UK, they want to help track down, say, benefits frauds.
	People like that using these AI data management tools to be able to identify people who are most likely to have been benefit cheats.
	So that sounds like it could be a good thing, but the problem is that being a global organisation and having every system in the West, in the UK, in the US run through them means that they have a ridiculous amount of power and access to basically everybody's information at all times.
	But for instance, the Gotham has been used in Ukraine, as far as I'm aware.
	To help them to identify enemy targets and make targeted strikes on them of the kind that would never have been available before this.
	So, when you see the footage coming from the front lines of Ukraine where they're fighting against Russians and you see all of the drone warfare that's going on because that's one of the big innovations that's come from this, a lot of that seems to be backed by Palantir.
	They're creating the software that makes it so those drones can be as efficient as possible.
	In the UK, as I mentioned, they're already set up here.
	They work with the NHS. They, as they say on here, have been proud to serve the NHS since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic when our software helped to distribute ventilators and PPE where patients needed them most.
	They also helped to roll out the vaccines and that meant that the Palantir software was used to determine where the vaccines needed to go and were also used to help track down people who weren't vaccinated.
	So it was helping to make sure that people who didn't want to take this new vaccine, it was making sure that you were able to find them and target them.
	So that seems to me to be somewhat of a shady thing, but they say more recently our software has been helping a number of NHS trusts to reduce waiting lists and drive up the use of operating theatres.
	It enables patients to be treated sooner.
	So again, with this kind of technology there's always a give and a take, right?
	There are Good applications that it can be used for, bad applications that it can be used for.
	I'm not necessarily looking at the fact that this technology can be used as a tool for good and bad.
	I'm looking at the company itself and the people, specifically Alex Karp, who runs it, and saying, do I trust this technology in their hands?
	Do I trust that they have the best interests of everybody, of all of their clients?
	So you're not looking at the potential of the technology per se, more so the intentions of the people wielding it.
	Yes, and I will say, personally as well, when it comes to big shady companies like this and AI in general, I am not eager for a world in which we are ruled by massive AI systems that have been programmed by untrustworthy people.
	Because the artificial part of artificial intelligence is to me the most important part of this.
	At the end of the day, it's all still running on algorithms and machine learning, right?
	Which will be determined mainly by the people who develop this technology.
	We saw with ChatGPT and the other ones when they first rolled out that, yeah, they were able to have amazing pattern recognition that made them racist.
	And immediately the people who made that pulled all of that out and basically gave it brain damage to stop it from being racist.
	And it's the same sort of thing that'll be going with this, where the people who program it are able to manipulate it to basically get whatever ends they want.
	It's going to create a massive centralization of power is what's going to happen.
	And of course, if you rule via machine, you can tweak the code in the background and no one is any wiser.
	And if you do it smartly, you tweak it gradually over time, who knows what you can do to a populace with this kind of technology?
	It is absolutely terrifying for the future, and I think that we think our tyranny now is bad.
	At least, you know, you can see through it to a certain extent because it's still done by human beings and we have an understanding of it.
	And considering most people don't understand machine learning models, we don't have the first, you know, we don't even know the first thing about how to address the problem in the first place, let alone how to address the tyranny that it's going to...
	Well, also, it's inherently globalist.
	If you bring all of the West's governmental systems under this, that, as you say, centralises all of it and sort of pushes us further into a form of global governance.
	I imagine the one-world government conspiracy theorists are going to have an absolute field day with this company.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	As I mentioned, they're also aiding ICE. They've got a multi-million dollar contract with ICE to store data on illegal immigrants' purchases, calls and movements, so it could help track them down.
	They also have massively increased their stock due to a US Special Operations Command contract.
	The agreement, which is valued at $36 million for one year alone, designates Palantir as the primary software integrator for US SOCOM's mission command system.
	Again, just another bit of massive, very, very important infrastructure being brought under them.
	They got a £480 million contract on NHS to run their data platform.
	It awarded them a contract for the Federated Data Platform to the US spy technology firm Palantir in the face of opposition from the BMA, the Doctors' Association Patients Group, and privacy campaigners.
	The FTP is designed to overcome a structural flaw in the NHS's management of data.
	over time a wide variety of data storage software has been used within and outside hospitals general practices and other care providers but the software has struggled to talk with other programs making it difficult to transfer patient records between hospitals so it seems that this technology is going to be used to aid in that process because of course the nhs has actually been held to ransom by hackers quite a few times which is crazy to me that that can even be allowed You'd think that'd be a matter of national security, wouldn't you?
	Yes, you would, but instead they're handing it over to these guys instead.
	And again, if you think that the problem with liberal democracy and its diffused state as it exists right now is the fact that nobody is accountable whatsoever to anything ever, every single problem that pops up is, well, that's above my pay grade, I can't handle that, that's somebody else's job, imagine how bad it'll be when all the decisions are being made by AIs.
	Nobody will be held accountable because there will be no human face to it, and I'd rather be governed by other human beings than technology.
	But carrying on, they've also lobbied UK disabilities ministers so that they can try and help tackle benefit fraud.
	Again, this can be seen as something that would be good for the UK, because I think we should tackle benefit fraud, absolutely.
	The problem is that this would bring another area of our government, and remember this is a foreign company, this is a US company, Under the control of Palantir.
	So it may look like a good thing, but it's really them extending their power.
	And then there's the fact that it would also probably get rolled into Tony Blair.
	Tony Blair's plans for the NHS. Now, they don't actually mention Palantir explicitly in this, because what they're talking about is Tony Blair's plans to use AI to fix the NHS, basically, by basically shutting down GPs and replacing them with AI chatbots instead.
	Which doesn't sound great, but it doesn't mention Palantir here explicitly, but if you scroll down to the bottom, they have tagged Palantir in related organizations.
	Because I do think that we know that if this was to be made reality, they would probably be the ones handling it, right?
	And as I mentioned, they've also been doing stuff with Ukraine.
	This is Alex Karp, by the way, and if you wanted him to seem like a normal and trustworthy person, I don't know why you'd go with this picture.
	But that's neither here nor there.
	Alex Karp himself studied under the University of Goethe, I believe, and did German philosophy directly underneath Jürgen Habermas.
	Oh, that's concerning.
	He also, in this Telegraph article, obviously it talks a lot about the history of the company, which I'll get into in a few minutes, and it talks about what they've been doing with Ukraine, how they've been using their AI technology, not just to help with finding all of these different targets, but also to help unearth likely locations for what they're deeming as Russian war crimes as well.
	Like, they're trying to use this pattern recognition technology to determine where mass graves may be buried, which is very interesting.
	But he notes a number of times here that things like he's an economic progressive, I'm massively left of center.
	I believe there's one article where he actively describes himself as a neo-Marxist.
	So it's all very...
	all what I want to hear from a man at the head of one of the most powerful companies in the entire world.
	There's more information here about it all.
	But if I carry on...
	Let's start talking specifically, more specifically, about Alex Karp.
	And all of this is very, very public information.
	So just this one as well.
	They're talking about his career rise.
	And they also say that after they've been taking all of these contracts on, they've had these huge spikes in their stock...
	That background in the picture is the icing on the cake, isn't it?
	That's funny, isn't it?
	But he says, in regard to the breach of privacy that his technology just inherently causes, he says, you may not agree with that, and bless you, don't work here.
	He said of tech workers who have qualms about the company's data mining.
	We don't like people who are coming in and saying, we want to kill terrorists and just do it without data protection.
	Bless your soul if you want to distribute carcinogens with your great intellect in the form of consumer internet.
	He's not exactly...
	I've watched a few interview clips with him.
	He's not the most eloquent speaker.
	As you might be able to tell.
	But basically what he's saying there is we kill terrorists.
	They always like to say that they kill terrorists or provide the technology that helps to identify terrorists and then kill them and prevent terror attacks.
	And if that means that we have to completely destroy Any kind of civil liberty that you have as an individual citizen, then we're more than willing to do it.
	The Patriot Act in America was the blessing for these kinds of people who are like, great, we have absolute carte blanche to spy on our citizens for the sake of saying, oh, we're fighting the war on terror.
	Yeah, because that's why the US government really wants to spy on its citizens in it.
	Because they just care about you.
	So much.
	George W. Bush cared about the citizens so much.
	Dick Cheney just wanted to make sure that you, American citizen, were safe at home from terrorism.
	No.
	No, they just wanted to spy on you.
	I can tell you what's going to happen here.
	What's going to happen is this sort of thing is going to plug into the pre-existing surveillance architecture And it's going to monitor all citizens' internet usage, data usage, and it's going to create a model in which it's going to...
	you don't even necessarily need to view something that is controversial or illegal, but it will have predictive utility in saying, well, you're more likely to potentially do this thing.
	And it's going to lead to the justification of pre-crime, where people...
	It's minority reporters.
	It is, yeah.
	They're going to go out of their way and say, you're on the track...
	Of committing a crime.
	And this will come about with this sort of technology if the philosophy of governance does not change.
	I agree completely, which is what makes it so worrying.
	So Alex Karp is already recognised by places like Fortune as one of the most 100 powerful businessmen in the world.
	He does have a net worth of about 7 billion dollars, I think, which is unsurprising.
	But at the same time, the whole reason for him coming about in the first place in this position is very strange, because as I mentioned, he went to law school with Peter Thiel, and he then went on to do a PhD, a German philosophy degree in Goethe under Jürgen Habermas, and then was basically just handed the CEO position to this company by Peter Thiel.
	Anything to say on Habermas Stelios?
	I just want to say philosophy degrees sometimes give good careers prospects.
	Thanks for that marketing department for philosophy department.
	Have you ever been handed the CEO position to a massive shady spy corporation?
	Yeah, and I said no, because I want to come here with you guys.
	You're a man with morals in that case, not an Alex Karp.
	But he writes his letters to shareholders in 2020. The company went public.
	Before then, unsurprisingly, they'd been operating for about 17 years, purely off of government contracts, and had not actually ever turned a profit.
	So they were purely kept up by government contracts because, you know, they're not a company that provides consumer value, they're a company that provides political value.
	And that's why they exist.
	And we'll find out why they would prop them up in just a few minutes.
	minutes but he says stuff in here you know commitment to risk-taking innovation of american enterprises unparalleled yada yada yada we believe the rewards from the embrace of ai in the u.s will be immense here's the most important part because this relates to the global american empire and palantir's place in it
	american influence in this unique hour comes not just from the controlling of the supply of ai but also from the ability to strategically deploy the newest technologies across our most prominent corporations and institutions our unchallenged ability to channel and guide the demand we create our own demand For integrating AI seamlessly with essential data distribution and decision-making structures is what truly sets us apart.
	We built this company to arm and defend our most significant institutions, not tinker at the margins creating idle, decadent diversions.
	I think that kind of sums up what this company is.
	They are a massive extrajudicial branch of the US government who works to expand American influence across the globe by basically creating demand for their own products so that all digital infrastructure in the West, Europe and the US, is under one umbrella, which is Palantir.
	That's what it comes across to me.
	He basically said it there.
	And now we can get a more in-depth look at the man himself.
	There's an interesting article from the New York Times asking a pretty reasonable question Saying, Alex Karp has money and power, so what does he want?
	And I'll draw out some of the highlights that they say from here.
	They start off, Mr. Karp is a lean, extremely fit billionaire with unruly salt and pepper curls.
	I will say I get massive Ex Machina vibes from this guy, especially given a lot of his justification for it is, well, if we didn't do it, somebody else would, and they would be worse, and you would be suffering under them, so you've got to suffer under us instead.
	Which is basically Oscar Isaac's justification in Ex Machina.
	Either way, he has ADHD, great start, and can't hide if he's not interested in what somebody is saying.
	After a hyper spurt of talking, he loses energy and has to recharge on the stationary bike or by reading.
	Even though he thinks of himself as different, he seems to like being different.
	It's not mentioned in this article, but I have seen another article where they mention that his office is filled with life-size cardboard cutouts of himself.
	That's the sign of a well-adjusted man.
	Yeah, because it makes him feel more comfortable.
	He enjoys being a provocateur on stage and in interviews.
	He says, I'm a Jewish, racially ambiguous, dyslexic, so I can say anything.
	Unlike many executives in Silicon Valley, and this article was written back in June, I think, so this is pre-election, this is in the run-up to it.
	So take that into consideration here.
	It says, unlike many executives in Silicon Valley, Mr. Karp backed President Biden, cutting him a big check despite skepticism about his handling of the border and his over-reliance on Hollywood elites like Jeffrey Katzenberg.
	Now, June, remember, or July, whenever it was, or maybe August, actually.
	Let me just scroll down and make sure.
	August!
	Apologies, folks.
	Now he's supporting President Kamala Harris, but still has vociferous complaints about his party.
	When he donates, he says, he does it in multiples of 18, because it's mystical.
	18 brings good luck in the tradition of Kabbalah.
	I gave Biden $360,000.
	Born in New York and raised outside Philadelphia in a leftist family, he has a Jewish father who is a pediatrician and a black mother who is an artist.
	They were social activists who took him to civil rights marches and other protests.
	His uncle, Gerald D. Janes, is an economics and African-American studies professor at Yale.
	His brother, Ben, is an academic who lives in Japan.
	I just think I've always viewed myself as I don't fit in, and I can't really try to.
	My parents' background just gave me a primordial subconscious bias that anything that involves we fit in together does not include me.
	I think the only way I can explain it politically is like, if fascism comes, I'll be the first or second person on the wall.
	Is this painting a picture of the sort of guy you want to have an insane amount of influence on global politics?
	It's like the perfect formula to engineer someone to do harm to society.
	By his own statements, he is completely unsituated, has no loyalty to any one-time place or people.
	He is an anywhere person, and he is in charge of the company that provides a ridiculous amount of digital infrastructure that allows people to steal your information.
	Do you think he's going to do this for a good reason?
	He says that he thinks in America and Europe, the inability or unwillingness to secure borders fuels authoritarianism.
	Okay, let's hear him out here.
	I see it as pretty simple.
	You have an open border, you get the far right, he said.
	And once you get them, you can't get rid of them.
	We saw it in Brexit, we see it in Le Pen in France, you see it across Europe, now you see it in Germany.
	So what this is suggesting to me, and you'll see that his claim that his ability to, well, his company's ability to help prevent terrorist attacks is the reason that Europe is not even further right, as he puts it.
	Now, you may see this as a good thing.
	He is preventing terrorist attacks, so he says.
	Obviously, preventing innocent civilian deaths is always a good thing.
	However, his stated reasons for doing so suggest to me that he's not doing it because he has Any concern for the actual well-being of, say, European peoples.
	He's not doing it because he has respect for our culture, our histories, our traditions, or even disagrees with our demographic replacement.
	He's doing it because if he didn't, then you would get Hitler too.
	That's his own stated views, right here.
	You would get Hitler too, and that would be even worse.
	So he's not trying to help us, he's trying to help manage managerial democracy, and help manage our slow demographic replacement.
	That's what I'm getting from this.
	Great.
	Mr. Karp sometimes gets emotional in his defense of Palantir.
	In June, when he received an award named in honor of Dwight Eisenhower at DC Gala for National Security Executives, he teared up.
	He said that when he lived in Germany, he often thought about the young men from Iowa and Kansas who risked their lives to free people like me during World War II. He's very, very obsessed with one aspect of his history, by the sounds of it.
	Yeah, one of those people who, sad to say, you can agree with the outcome or not, used a massive overstep of central governmental power and literally sent in the army to force people at gunpoint to integrate their schools.
	He's like, this is a good thing, which suggests to me, as long as the outcomes are what I'm after, tyranny is fine.
	Unsurprising from somebody like this.
	Let's go into the actual history of the company then.
	He's the vanguard of what Mark Milley, the retired general and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has called the most significant fundamental change in the character of war ever recorded in history.
	In his new world, unorthodox Silicon Valley entrepreneurs like Mr. Karp and Elon Musk are woven into the fabric of America's national security.
	Palantir itself was founded in 2003 by a gang of five, including Karp and his old Stanford Law School classmate Peter Thiel, now the company's chairman.
	It was backed in part by nearly $2 million from In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital arm.
	In the wake of 9-11, the CIA bet on Palantir gobbling up data and auguring where the next terrorist attacks would come from.
	Palantir uses multiple databases to find the bad guy, even, as Mr. Cart put it, if the bad guy actually works for you.
	So again, in the wake of 9-11, they go, we've passed the Patriot Act now.
	We need companies who can use the Patriot Act to the fullest extent.
	So the CIA starts handing out money to these companies in an attempt to get one that will actually work for them.
	Peter Thiel, Alex Karp.
	I know Peter Thiel, Alex Karp seem like they come from different sides of the political aisle.
	Karp went for Biden and Kamala.
	Thiel went for Donald Trump.
	But at the same time, there are shared goals, even on both sides of the aisle, that they all have.
	Because it is the Uni Party, and even the power brokers that handle the money behind the Uni Party also have shared goals, and that is to spread American influence across the world.
	being european in an american vassal state i know we've got plenty of your american viewers watching this right now this isn't personal against you i do not want to be ruled by america i do not think that the version of america that teal or carp has in their mind is one that harks back to the traditions of america starting from the founding and recognizes it as a place created by europeans it's obviously not good for americans as well it's not good for americans as well it's It's not good for Americans either.
	He sees it as a set of global democratic values that have to be spread.
	What I'm essentially saying is he's a neocon.
	He's a neocon who's going to support any war that will spread what he considers to be American democratic values across the world, which always ends up going so well, doesn't it?
	Upon starting, it says it carries on, they decided to seek out John Poindexter, a retired rear admiral who was dubbed the godfather of modern surveillance.
	Admiral Poindexter has been forced to resign as President Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor after the, drumroll please, Iran-Contra scandal.
	I just realised I went to bang the table, sorry.
	After 9-11, he then worked at the Pentagon on a surveillance programme called Total Information Awareness.
	This is a fantastic pedigree.
	This is such a great pedigree for the company, isn't it?
	Oh, it's absolutely horrifying.
	The company is often credited with helping locate Osama Bin Laden so Navy SEALs could kill him, but it's unclear if that's true and CARP won't confirm whether it is or not.
	He does crow a little bit about Western Civilization, resting on Palantir's shoulders, noting that without its software, you would have had massive terror attacks in Europe already, like October 7th style.
	We already had those.
	We already had plenty of those, and you didn't help.
	Maybe you helped ones that we don't know about, but we have already had massive terror attacks, and I don't see you crying about those.
	I don't see him going like, oh, the Bataclan, such a terrible thing to happen.
	The MEM bombing arena, arena bombing, was such a terrible thing to happen.
	But, he says, if we had had those kinds of attacks, like October 7, which is the worst terror attack, he believes it would have propelled the far right to power.
	Palantir also doesn't do business with China, Russia, or any other countries that are America's enemies, and Palantir got its start in intelligence and defence, and has since sprouted across the government through an array of contracts that helps the IRS to identify tax fraud, and the FDA to prevent supply chain disruptions, to get drugs to market quicker.
	So, Every aspect of this company seems very suspicious and very shady and not in our best interest, as far as I'm concerned.
	Obviously they like to wrap it up in all of these, we're helping you, we're saving you from being attacked by terrorists, but the main thing that he seems to care about is spreading American democratic values across the world, even where they don't fit.
	And also making sure that the goose step, as he puts it, doesn't return to Europe.
	I do not trust this man.
	I do not trust this company.
	I do not think that you should trust this company.
	There's way more involved in all of this, but I only have a limited amount of time.
	And so I think I'm going to end it there.
	That's some good research, though.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Got a bunch of comments here to read through.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Are you all right there, Stelios?
	You didn't say much during that whole...
	No, because I wanted to listen to what you were saying.
	Any comments now that you've heard it all?
	I want to do more research, but I really distrust when companies are trying to tell me that they care about it.
	They're like the prime example of public-private partnership.
	Also, when they're spreading alarmism, I think that's dangerous.
	Alarmism just calling everything fascism.
	Oh yeah, no, I agree.
	It's just as bad as thinking that there is never such a thing.
	Like that.
	Oh, God.
	Gandalf, a Palantir is a dangerous tool, Saruman.
	Saruman, why?
	Why should we further use it?
	The Palantir is then showing footage of Lily Phillips.
	OnlyFans.
	Gross.
	Good segment continuity.
	Matt G. Hammond, it's my understanding Peter Thiel founded Palantir to stop the worst companies from getting access to this technology.
	Whatever issue you have with it, know that it would have been worse.
	That's always an excellent smokescreen to say that, well, of course, as I mentioned, We've got to tyrannise you, because if it wasn't us, it'd be somebody else tyrannising you that's worse.
	That's a blank check for all kinds of tyranny to be done to you, so don't let them give you that excuse.
	Also, it wasn't started by Peter Thiel to stop the worst companies.
	It was started so that the CIA could have an extra branch of government to spy on people.
	That's why it started.
	It's like the Mafia saying, well, be grateful we cut off your finger.
	We could have killed you.
	It's that same sort of philosophy of a bully threatens to do something worse, potentially, and so they can take a little bit more from you.
	And I appreciate you trying to inject some positivity, but I think it's unequivocally bad in this case.
	Yeah, I mean, the positivity is, well, if you didn't have this tyranny, you'd have a worse one, which isn't positive at all, in my opinion.
	Dragon Lady Chris says, after seeing Alex Karp, there will be no more comments about Stelios not combing his hair.
	To be fair, you've got a worthy challenger there, Stelios.
	I mean, there are worse things I've done on the podcast.
	Last time I appeared.
	Is that the salmon tie?
	The problem wasn't the tie, it was the shirt.
	Anyway, Occupant42 says, one man's utopia is another man's dystopia.
	Yeah, we're living in a massive dystopia right now.
	Okay, video comments.
	With that whole the girl who slept with a hundred men deal, I wonder if the mom is living vicariously through her.
	The mom is past the age of being desired by men.
	So therefore, to make herself more interesting, kind of like the parents with trans kids and stuff, I think it's worth considering and the implication is indeed very disturbing.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how old her mother is.
	I think that the fact her mother's involved at all is very worrying.
	Oh, hello.
	There was a war between chimpanzees and gorillas in the wild.
	This is the war that the US State Department doesn't want you to know about.
	Yeah.
	Who is the CIA funding?
	Well, at least they're funding both sides.
	because that way they get Banana Republic there you go
	music You're so cute.
	music There's one happy dog.
	One very festive dog as well.
	I bet your dog believes in Santa Claus.
	I know, yeah.
	Well observed.
	I know there will be a special circle of hell reserved for me, but I can't help annoying Italians about a certain pizza topping.
	Tony D's Sunday night's dreams are a little too late for a UK following, but he is very good with his audience.
	It's been a mission of mine to get him to admit this, albeit out of context.
	Pineapple belongs on pizza.
	Yeah!
	I didn't know Tony D did live streams.
	I was always wondering where he went.
	That's great.
	I hope it's going well for him.
	I don't have a problem with pineapples on pizza.
	Sometimes the Hawaiian is good.
	Do you just, like, stand at the edge of the western coastline and just, like, flip off the Italians?
	Just put an entire unchopped pineapple on my pizza.
	I don't like the Italian crust so much.
	I prefer the thick crust for pizza's.
	I'm a thick crust guy too.
	Hello Lotus Eaters, this is my first video comment.
	I'm currently trying to cycle the length of New Zealand, however I'm a couple days from the end and I've come across a ford which is a bit more of a river.
	So while I wait for somebody who can hopefully help me cross it, I've got some ginger wine warming on a stove.
	And there's worse places to be stuck, like Swindon, because over here you can see we're very close to where they filmed the Ork burn pile.
	That's where he broke his foot, innit it?
	That's awesome.
	I know you.
	I think I know him as well.
	I know, yeah.
	I like the...
	Right, we got some comments.
	Genevieve says, very nice, Ty Stelios.
	Nice sweater, Josh.
	Nice beard, Harry.
	Well, thank you very much.
	I shaved.
	Mid-podcast.
	He's very quick at shaving.
	It was a daring idea, but I think I pulled it off.
	Okay, Annie Moss says, Josh, I love this segment.
	Please make sure Dan watches it because I think he needs to see this show based on his earlier comments.
	He's not been spreading Santa denial, has he?
	I won't have that on the Lotus Eaters podcast.
	I wouldn't be surprised with Dan.
	Very suspicious character.
	Captain Charlie the Beagle says, Hey, Santa deniers, if Santa isn't real, then why when he was eight did my brother get his go-kart taken back by Santa on...
	Stephen's Day for being bold, only to get it back after writing a letter of apology to Santa.
	Checkmate.
	That is true.
	Can you answer?
	Carl's Gallon Tub of Nuln Oil.
	Santa Denier cries out as they're filled with the jolly Christmas spirit.
	Sounds very threatening.
	Russian Garbage Human.
	Santa gives presents to Ukrainian children too.
	foreign agent Henry Ashman says going through the anti-Santa fake news is just an exercise in order in don't make me tap the magic sign again and everyone knows the Christmas names are fifth columnists paid for by upper middle class parents to cover up the fact that their entitled little brat was on the naughty list and got coal That's true.
	Utter condemnation there.
	It is.
	It's good to have an expose of the organised network of gnomes because they're growing in power and I for one want to return to tradition and centralise Santa's power once more.
	The gnomes v elves war is not spoken about enough.
	I know.
	Base Ape says, if Santa isn't real, then who was the guy who was sneaking out of my mum's room that one time?
	Santa deniers are such idiots.
	That's a good point.
	I'm sure there are many cases in which this has occurred, Base Ape, in which case you're lucky to get that Santa sighting, and so many times as well.
	Tell your mum I'll see you next year.
	If Santa...
	Okay.
	I'm not reading...
	Oh, Lily Phillips is on the naughty list.
	I think boomers would be naughty on purpose just to get coal since Keir Starmer's not going to keep them warm at night.
	And Sophie Liv, to end the comments from my section, I love how you guys always cover the most important news.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Right, so Kevin Fox says, Sexual inequality.
	When a woman sleeps with a hundred men, she's called a slut.
	when a man does it he's called gay basic that's quite good I'll give you that Thanks, Kevin.
	Calm Rob says, I'm with Josh.
	I'm so sick of this woman getting airtime for being an absolute degenerate.
	The best solution is to completely ignore them and let them suffer the consequences of their actions.
	Well, I told you what I think, that there is a whole industry that is...
	There's a what?
	A what industry still is?
	Yeah, that just people need to talk about it.
	Just by not paying attention to it, it won't go away.
	And it looks like it's expanding.
	Yeah.
	And that's also my answer.
	The whole industry is expanding.
	And that's also my answer to the legal truth who says that he's disappointed I covered the story.
	Right, so, Russian garbage human.
	It breaks my heart to see more and more women lose their innocence and carefree love for the world.
	It's magical and deserves to be preserved and cherished, yet we allow women to be brainwashed into feminism.
	Femininity is wonderful.
	The engineered collapse of society angers me to the very core.
	David Ford says, Stelio's doing the maths to prove the whore can do that.
	Many men in the time, allotted, was one of the most autistic segments Lotus Eaters has ever done.
	Is that a good or a bad thing?
	That's a good thing.
	That's a very good thing.
	You're aiding the cause.
	No, actually, it's important to do the math.
	Stelios has been giving her the receipts.
	Positioning yourself for the position of her accountant potentially could be open, as well as other things.
	Stelios, I'm sure, we've seen some of his dress.
	Stelios has got pimp suits somewhere.
	You've got a purple velvet suit somewhere, right?
	Maybe a cane.
	And a big feathered hat as well.
	Yeah, and I have golden chains.
	I walk with a stick.
	I'm pretty sure people, if you live near the Mediterranean, you're born with a golden chain of some kind.
	Not me.
	Not you?
	Not me, no.
	No, Stelios had to earn it.
	Yes!
	The golden chain chose me.
	Oh no.
	You had to put a pineapple on a pizza and show it to an Italian to get your gold chain.
	Dr. David Ferugia, RST. I'm not going to read the other one.
	I refuse to believe that any train in England can be run on time.
	Can I read the last one?
	I love this.
	Charles Ellington.
	Big appreciation moment for Charles Ellington right now.
	You're my favourite schizo commenter.
	Says, Lily's clavicles are straight, male.
	Her neck is long, male.
	Massive hands, male.
	It's a male.
	I love it.
	Yesterday, I think it was, you put a comment saying that everybody in any position of power in Hollywood or government is actually secretly trans.
	Donald Trump, trans.
	Joe Biden, trans.
	Every single one of them.
	I wish I lived in your world, Charles, and please don't.
	They are all trans.
	Don't stop commenting, man.
	I love it.
	We've got a tranny tyranny.
	Everyone is trans.
	Even you?
	No!
	I'm secretly a woman.
	Oh my god.
	Despite the jawline.
	I have to say two things about comments.
	No, you've just been designed by Californian gamers.
	The most devious comments are from Sophie Liv.
	She remembers.
	And also, I like Thomas Vanier because you're very laconic.
	Thank you.
	Charles Ellington, you just give me a great laugh every time, man.
	So please carry on.
	On my segments, Arizona Desert Rat Harry did excellent research.
	Thank you very, very much.
	Now let's just hope that his search doesn't put him at the top of the Palantir hit list.
	The fun thing about all of this stuff is that it's all publicly available.
	Some of this stuff, right, so if I get here...
	These two articles, including the one that makes him look like an evil genius, was posted on their own website because they're proud of this.
	They're proud of the headline, they're proud of all of the information here.
	Most of these companies don't give a shit because most people don't actually read into these things.
	They'll see a headline and they'll make their mind up and they won't go any further than that.
	So it's actually really easy to find this kind of information.
	It's just putting it all together and putting the pieces together.
	And on that, Screwtape Lasers counters me and says, Guys, don't fall for the Palantir.
	We're a powerful, evil company marketing.
	I have used all of their products.
	The only thing they do is provide software to allow non-technical people to work with their organization's data.
	Palantir does not collect nor analyze data.
	They provide cumbersome tools for low-skilled customers to do so.
	Whether or not their actual products have cumbersome User interfaces.
	The idea that they don't collect or analyze data is completely wrong.
	That's literally what they were started to do by the CIA. And this idea that they're presenting themselves as a powerful evil company, I don't think that that's what they think they're doing.
	They're presenting themselves as an invaluable piece of US infrastructure that needs to be spread across the globe.
	What they think they're doing is good.
	Again, Alex Karp thinks everything that he's doing is good because it prevents fascism from returning to Europe or even making headway in the US as well.
	So, I don't agree with your take there.
	But thank you for commenting anyway.
	Omar Awad, AI can identify patterns through metadata to determine race and seemingly identical bone samples.
	Another example is targeting pregnancy ads to a woman before she could know herself.
	AI could control the public with almost seemingly random butterfly effect triggers.
	Yep.
	Yeah, potentially, yeah.
	Yeah, I wonder if they must have had to scramble for that one.
	Like, oh wait, they were being funded by the US and Israel?
	Okay, I guess they're the good guys now.
	Also, naming a company after a magical spyware device that was used by evil to ensnare a corruptible wizard and drive their opposition leader to burn himself alive is an interesting choice.
	Yes, and it was Peter Thiel's.
	Peter Thiel, you know, that guy who's onside?
	He's our guy?
	He's not.
	He's not!
	As the Unbreakable Litany points out, J.D. Vance was mentored by Peter Thiel.
	Yeah, no, I know that.
	I know that.
	I've seen some people concerned about that.
	I need to look more into JD Vance's backstory, really, before I can come to any more conclusions.
	AngelBrain, Harry, it's easy to explain.
	Remember how in Half-Life 2 Overwatch would comment on your position and actions?
	Yeah, it turns out the game was some kind of gypsy witch predicting the world we're about to enter.
	Basically, any piece of media that presumed that the world was going to be terrible In about 20 to 50 years time has been proven correct.
	So my takeaway from this is always expect the worst.
	And let's finish it there, lads.
	Oh, well, there's one more comment I want to end on.
	Of course Harry stumbles when pronouncing dick-slexic made me lose it.
	I did that for you, Russian.
	I knew you'd love it.
	I did notice that.
	Maybe give me a little smirk.
	But anyway, thank you very much for watching, and we'll be back in about half an hour for Lads Hour.
	We're doing GeoGuessr again.
	It should be good fun.

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