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Nov. 28, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1052

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	Good afternoon folks, welcome to the podcast of the Lotuses for Thursday the 28th of November 2024. I'm joined by Josh and Charlie Bentley Astor.
	Thanks for joining us Charlie.
	It's really good to be here.
	I've watched the show since the beginning so this feels like a real character arc moment when I'm finally in the room.
	I'm glad you're here.
	We're going to be talking about the sad case of Peter Lynch, who of course took his own life after being, I think, unjustly imprisoned by the oppressive Starmer regime for objecting to atrocities, the ideological gap between men and women and what might be responsible for it, and how Italy's migrant crisis is nothing short of horrifying.
	Just like everyone else.
	anyway let's begin okay so Peter Lynch's funeral was yesterday and I wanted to focus on his case and his story because I think actually it's quite important that it's not just another number or another person contributing to the number of people arrested during the August riots but he was a man with a family he was 61 years old
	he was married for 36 years before he died spoilers and he had four adult children and three grandchildren.
	And there'll be a clip I'll play of him in a minute.
	And clearly a lot of what he was doing, he was doing for his family because he brings up, you know, protecting children and things like that, which I think is a very good thing.
	But to give you an idea of what actually happened on the 4th of August, he attended the protest outside the Holiday Inn in Rotherham.
	And I imagine both of you can probably remember the one outside of Rotherham.
	Got a bit violent, fiery.
	Yeah, it was mostly peaceful, but fiery.
	And one can wonder what motivated people in Rotherham to do such a thing.
	But apparently, he was guilty of shouting at police, you are protecting people who are killing our kids, and I can't say that word on YouTube, but sexually assaulting them.
	You get the idea.
	And he referred to the police as scum.
	He basically shouted these things at the police, which resulted in him being arrested.
	But the important point was he didn't attempt to set fire to anything, nor did he endorse setting fire to it.
	Nor did he participate in the violence.
	Yeah, so he stood there and shouted.
	Nothing different than what he heard in the minor strikes back in Thatcher's time, you know, yelling scum and all sorts of the police.
	Well, I mean, the leftists and the pro-Palestinian times shout scum all the time.
	So, you know, this is not an objectionable, legally objectionable thing to shout at police, you would think.
	I watched History Debunked Simon Webb talk about it and he said he could remember the Vietnam War protests and some of the things that people would say to the police then were much much stronger than what he was guilty of saying.
	So after he was arrested a video was shown in court of him saying this that was shown as evidence and this resulted in him getting a two year and eight month sentence Under what law, though?
	What law is it that you can't shout at the police?
	Well, supposedly...
	It's verbal assault now these days.
	Yeah, he was guilty of, you know, targeting the police.
	That was the specific thing that...
	With mean words?
	I know.
	It's silly, isn't it?
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	So it's also worth mentioning as well at the time he wasn't in the best of health and had recently suffered a heart attack so this sort of sentence could well have been the equivalent of a life sentence to him those two years and eight months because of course he didn't know how long he had left and you know he wasn't necessarily in the best of health I imagine.
	And there's a video that Andrew Bridgen, who we've had on the show before, shared in October after he was convicted of him talking about politics and holding a similar sign to the one he was holding that day, where he's basically talking about his view of politics.
	Right, so tell us why you're here today.
	Because we did a vote in 2016, a democratic vote, it's not being upheld.
	Parliament's took it on to them since.
	The corrupt MPs have took it on to themselves to deny our vote what we put them in power for.
	But now they're in power, they're stuck there defying what we've put them in here for.
	And all these corrupt MPs now are saying they're getting picked on and abused, but why not?
	They actually went in there to do a job and they've gone and turned against Willett people, which is absolutely ridiculous.
	I mean, how do we go by our rights and bring our children up if there's a corrupt system all the way through?
	Police, judicial services, everything, it's all involved.
	Parliament, MPs, everything, they're all corrupt.
	We've got Prime Ministers corrupt.
	So how can we tell our children to bring them up straight and narrow when everybody above them is corrupt, but yet they're expecting the people to do as they're told by people that's not doing as they're told, but would have been here for.
	So I just can't see around it unless they come out here.
	It's a little bit difficult to hear with all the background noise, but...
	Not an unreasonable set of points that he's making.
	No, it's perfectly reasonable.
	It's the kind of thing that, to be honest, we would talk about, isn't it?
	That many of the people in prominent positions are corrupt.
	And I thought it very interesting that he was talking about, well, it's difficult to raise children and put them on the straight and narrow if the institutions around them are corrupt.
	Which I think is a very good way of framing it as well.
	It shows that he was approaching politics with his family in mind, which I think is nothing but a good thing.
	And I think actually that is something that more people could benefit from doing.
	Sorry, just a quick thing.
	It seems to be perfectly fair to call them corrupt if they are following an agenda that isn't the agenda that's set by the demos itself.
	The purpose of democracy is that people get to vote for what the agenda is going to be.
	I mean, that's exactly what the referendum was.
	It's literally to say, we will do this as a nation.
	And if they're doing everything they can to undermine or avoid doing that, then you can call that corruption.
	That's a totally fair way of describing it.
	Especially when it's serving their own interests.
	Precisely.
	But I think it's a good point to make, actually, about raising children that way, because I was raised in a military family.
	I know you were too, Carl.
	And I was taught, you know, queen and country as the epitome of...
	Dignity and class and service.
	And as a result of that, the government, the military, the police, everyone who serves under the crown should mirror then the Queen's image and now the King's image.
	Less so the King's image, but mirror the Queen's image.
	And they were guiding lights to me as a child.
	I thought the police were on our side.
	I thought the politicians were on our side.
	And I think that's the same for many, many people.
	And since Brexit and COVID, it's just broken, broken people's faith.
	But for the better, right, of course.
	Better for whom?
	It's a sound state of affairs that we have an elite class that seems to be actively against not just the will of the people, but the good of the country.
	But anyway.
	So it's worth mentioning as well that Sky News in particular explicitly said something that we had talked about, and we'll get onto that.
	So I'll play this episode briefly.
	And people are being told that if they do appear, whether they're pleading guilty or not guilty, they're very unlikely to get bail.
	And if they do end up in prison, somebody who told me, somebody who knows about these things, told me that, you know, any right-wing, far-right protester landing up in jail, well, they can expect a pretty cold reception from What he says are Asian gangs inside prison who will be looking out for them.
	Wow, that's a threat.
	Isn't it?
	It's bad enough that you can expect to be prosecuted compelled into going to prison for something that you otherwise if you went through the court process would get exonerated from but to say that and once you're in there you're not going to be safe it's a whole but not not just you're not going to be safe muslim gangs are going to come for you yes very much a client of the people you've been protesting against on the streets exactly it shows who the regime's clients are and who the enemies But
	they were well aware that they were sending many of these people to their demise, basically.
	Or at least into significant danger.
	Yeah, and that wasn't necessarily voiced by concern.
	That was voiced as, you need to be careful, otherwise you know what will happen to you, sort of thing.
	It's more couched as a threat.
	It's an admission, isn't it?
	That they haven't actually got control of what goes on in the prisons.
	Yeah, why do Asian gangs even exist in these prisons?
	Yeah, surely if the prisons were functioning normally, there wouldn't be gangs in our prisons, but there we go.
	It is worth mentioning as well that all the way back on the 27th of August, we actually discussed how the state creates conditions in Western democracies that allow it to dispose of dissidents in multiple different ways.
	They don't necessarily have to kill them, but just render them politically impotent is the main aim, really.
	Crush their soul.
	But we did point out that driving them to suicide in jail is one of the tactics that they use, and we were unfortunately very prescient in this discussion.
	So it's worth mentioning as well that the prison he went to in South Yorkshire, I think it was H&P Moorland, this is from 2010, where they had three days of violence in the prison.
	So there was a three-day-long riot in the prison itself.
	And then again in 2016 there was another case of widespread violence where even some of the cells were damaged in the prison which I don't even know how you could do.
	You'd think that a prison cell should be the one thing that's very sturdy.
	So how that happened...
	You know, God only knows.
	But these would have been the things that he would have been hearing, this 61-year-old man, that he's going to be spending his time in this prison, of course, in South Yorkshire, which would have a large Asian contingent in its prison population.
	And so he knows that there's going to be high potential for violence.
	There's going to be lots of...
	You know, people out to get him because of his political beliefs.
	And then, of course, while he was imprisoned, he would have seen this as well.
	1,100 inmates set for early release.
	And then lots of them were freed by mistake.
	And then also one of them re-offended.
	Isn't it on the same day?
	On the same day.
	Within hours of being released.
	I was going to say many of them re-offended, but...
	Amari Ward, a very English name, that.
	Do you know what category prison he was in?
	I think it was Category C. Okay, because obviously with Romlyn Tomlinson and his current stint in prison is Category A, high security for...
	Bellmarsh, isn't it?
	Well, he's been moved now, but it was Bellmarsh, but he's been moved to another Category A. And it's just like, why?
	He's not a violent criminal.
	But what I wanted to have another look at Is how the media portrayed him.
	Because remember, he was guilty of shouting.
	Conspiracy theorist grandad jailed over disorder.
	Here's the Guardian.
	Disgraceful example of a grandfather jailed for role in Rotherham Riot.
	And that is a quote from the judge, who we will be getting on to.
	How does his daughters and grandchildren, how do you explain that to the grandchildren?
	Granddad's in prison, he hasn't done anything wrong, but he's going to be away for a long time now.
	How do you explain that?
	And how do the kids not then grow up with an intense resentment towards the state?
	I think a lot of young people these days are recognising that essentially the state is adversarial towards them and that they've got a very domineering set of rules above them that they have to be very careful about.
	And I've actually encountered this in my own life with my own children.
	Well, it's the passive ways and then the...
	Well, yeah, but sometimes they fall afoul of it.
	And it can be really silly things like messages they send each other on social media and stuff like this.
	And you have to explain to them that, look, you just can't do these things because the government and the police are watching and they will come for you.
	So essentially, you have to explain to them, we're kind of being oppressed...
	But this is the thing, kids always need a Y, and we can't give them one.
	Oh, I can.
	It's not good, but...
	But not in a language they can truly understand.
	Yeah, but I think they do understand the severity of it.
	When you do sit down and talk to them, they understand there's something not good going on.
	So, this judge, Jeremy Richardson, who Peter Lloyd here is calling a left-wing judge, although probably true, he gave him almost three years for shouting at the police, remember?
	He previously allowed a paedophile to go free and gave a suspended sentence to a dangerous driver who killed a cyclist.
	So you can drive dangerously and actually kill someone and get less time in prison than shouting at someone.
	But the point is, what he's doing is defending the regime.
	Is a paedophile a threat to the regime?
	No.
	Is someone who killed a cyclist dangerously driving a threat to the regime?
	No.
	Is a grandfather voicing a political opinion a threat to the regime?
	Yes.
	So that's why.
	Exactly, yeah.
	And so the judge said to him, what you did was encourage by your conduct others to behave violently, and you were part of this mob.
	So, guilty by association.
	I was going to say, why can't people just be responsible for their own actions?
	Are we completely beyond that now?
	Apparently so, yeah.
	And he also said to him, what a disgraceful example you are as a grandfather.
	Why would you do that?
	Why would you do that other than to drive the knife in and make sure he went into prison utterly demoralised?
	It's to signal to the outside world, isn't it?
	Mm-hmm.
	It's always neglected, but the working class element of this, the working class prosecution, it's people who haven't been lucky enough to have the kind of education that perhaps us around the table have had, who've had to spend their whole lives working, not getting to sit down and read for pleasure and things like this, not having the kind of outlet that we have.
	They express themselves in perfectly legitimate ways, but it's not accepted by the establishment as a legitimate way to express oneself.
	Unless you're publishing an academic paper or a piece in The Guardian, it's neither here nor there.
	And I just can't...
	I feel very vindictive towards the middle class as a result of this.
	We're not all bad.
	Yes, you are.
	Thanks, Carl.
	Anyway, here, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale compares the case of Peter Lynch to this one, a trainee teacher who was 26 years old, shared videos of newborn babies being sexually assaulted, and he avoided jail, just to put that into perspective.
	So I imagine, having known this, Peter Lynch probably wouldn't have been too chuffed with his stay.
	That's a headline I just never want to hear ever again.
	No.
	It's like the Hugh Edwards stuff happened the same week, didn't it?
	So, eventually he was pretty much driven to taking his own life and this actually didn't get much circulation that that was the manner in which it happened.
	It was only because, as GB News reports, a Telegraph article Got a source, basically, for it from the prison itself, whereas everyone else was basically saying he just died.
	Right.
	And I remember pointing this out.
	Yeah.
	Like, he just dies.
	He just dies in prison.
	It makes it sound like it was a health problem more than anything else.
	Yeah, maybe it was his heart again or something like that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, he committed suicide.
	And look at the tagline, you know, hotel rioter.
	Yeah.
	He was stood at the sidelines.
	That's not how I define a riot.
	Yeah.
	That's a protest.
	Someone who's engaging in physical...
	Activity, like violence, fine, call that person a rioter.
	Yeah, destruction of property, things like that, but he was standing at the damn sidelines.
	He wasn't convicted of that, and were he alive, it would be libelous as well, wouldn't it?
	Yes, yes, exactly.
	So, here's another one as well.
	LBC, rioter dies in prison after being jailed for two years for violent disorder outside Rotherham Hotel.
	This is just not true.
	It is a misrepresentation of what happened.
	Why do they keep getting away with this?
	Because no one takes it to task about it.
	No, but loads of people call them out on it.
	It would need to be legal.
	Someone would have to sue them.
	What the right needs in Britain is just a very big legal fund to fund lots of court cases.
	Then all of a sudden they'll remember their journalistic integrity.
	Elon, if you're listening, that's what we need.
	Elon, I know you're watching.
	I know you're a big fan.
	Help us out.
	And then they did eventually...
	Have a slightly better headline there.
	They did mention.
	Died from quote-unquote hanging.
	Hmm.
	I don't know why they're doing a quote-unquote there.
	Yeah, but, like, what, did he slip over?
	Like, or did he kill himself?
	Yeah, well, it was the latter.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	But the point is that they're leaving a dubious question hanging in the air.
	I know, yeah.
	You know, because you could say from hanging, oh, he slipped, fell, caught his throat on something and choked to death on the bedpost or something.
	I don't know.
	Like, they think it happened to Epstein or something like that, right?
	Yeah.
	Like, you know, or did he deliberately take his own life?
	It's another part of the intimidation, isn't it?
	He died in prison.
	Can't tell you exactly how.
	I suppose if they keep it relatively secret, it does serve to benefit them in a way that they can hold a threat over people that's slightly empty, but they don't know that.
	Yeah, it also just shows who's within the grace of the regime and who isn't.
	If this was a Muslim man who had done something like this, he would be talked very well of.
	Probably get asked to join the Greens or the Labour Party, to be honest.
	Well, yeah, yeah.
	So I wanted to have a little look at some of the people that attended his funeral and, you know, say well done.
	I didn't know what was going on and I'm a little bit disappointed that I missed it because I feel like lots of people should have probably turned out, although I didn't know the wishes of the family.
	maybe they didn't want that, but at least express some sort of condolences and solidarity with the family, because I do think that he was someone who was a victim rather than a criminal.
	I feel like what he did by shouting at the police, perhaps people might not approve of it, but I don't think it deserves all of this, does it?
	It doesn't I don't think it should be a crime.
	Well, it's a crime in taste, isn't it?
	It wasn't to the taste of the middle-class judges and BBC and LBC. I don't think it should be legally actionable to shout your disapproval at the police at a protest.
	If you're right, really.
	They're representatives of the state.
	Absolutely.
	Unless you're, you know, you're stealing or you're physically harming people, I don't think you should be in prison.
	Maybe fraud.
	That's kind of stealing.
	There are other things that, yeah, sure, but like, at a protest you shouted something, that shouldn't be jailable.
	No, absolutely not.
	It should be protected speech.
	So, I saw that Active Patriot was there and they recorded a video.
	I might be misattributing things to some people who shared videos of it, but I think...
	Active Patriot usually records his own footage.
	Yeah, he does, yeah.
	I also saw that Turning Point had turned up as well.
	UKIP leader Nick Tenconi, who we've had in a few times, turned up.
	He's been very good doing on-the-ground stuff, things that perhaps Nigel Farage should be doing, perhaps.
	Yeah, where was reform?
	That's funny that, isn't it?
	Very quiet.
	And Yorkshire Rose here turned up as well, and then ActivePatriot also shared a message from his daughter as well, because I think from what I can read from some of the service, they were very, very upset about it, as you would be.
	But the point being here that what happened was a man was jailed for speaking his mind, something that did turn into a riot, was arrested, imprisoned for a disproportionately long time.
	I don't think he should have been imprisoned at all, but even if he was involved in the riot, it was very tangential and people have been given less time than that.
	For similar circumstances.
	Worse things.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The photos in this are particularly moving as well, because if you look at the age of the photos, these photos are probably taken in the 1980s, when the government didn't appear to be actively hostile to its own population.
	And so if you were to go back to when this photo was taken, like, you know, 85 or whenever...
	And explain this is how you die.
	Yeah, exactly.
	In 40 years' time, you're going to be murdered by the state.
	They wouldn't believe you.
	They're like, that's mad.
	How could you think that?
	It's like, well, things are going to change a lot, actually, from about 1997 onwards, and you're not going to be ready for it.
	It reminds me of the perhaps potentially distasteful quote in this context of, I think it was one of the American revolutionaries, wasn't it?
	That the tree of liberty needs to be watered by the blood of tyrants and patriots.
	And I think that this should remind us about the costs of allowing this government to remain.
	And I think that that's certainly something that he would be very passionate about, is that This has been allowed to come to be where the state can imprison people for what I see as free speech and create the conditions where they feel the need to take their own life.
	And it didn't have to happen this way.
	And I think that people should hold the Labour Party and Keir Starmer and that justice to account for these sorts of things happening because it is tyranny at the end of the day.
	And just in case anyone is tempted to misinterpret what we're saying, we are saying don't vote for these people.
	Vote for someone else under any circumstances.
	Anyone else.
	Yeah, anyone else almost at this point.
	Anyway, That's a Random Name says, To respond to the lady, if people were held responsible for their actions, our rulers would be tried for treason.
	That is true.
	And by jailing these innocents, all the regime does is prime their descendants for resentment.
	The government is directly responsible for creating the extremists they pretend to fight against.
	They're breeding enemies of the state aren't they?
	Yes and they don't seem to care like the the cavalier attitude that Keir Starmer took towards the petition to have nearly three million people sign a petition against you in like less than two days you should have some serious concerns about the direction of travel of your government but to literally say well these are just irrelevant far-right whoever's A bit concerning.
	Peter says, You should be resentful towards the government.
	Yeah, it's not unjustified at all.
	Past and present, that's interesting.
	We're sort of rewriting our own history in our heads because we look back and the things we thought we knew where we were back then, and it turns out we didn't.
	And so our whole attitude, not just of the present and the future, but the past is changing as a result of what's happening.
	Honestly, that's good.
	I think the view that we have of the early 2000s is remarkably rosy.
	And actually, no, this is where the rot begins setting in.
	And the real foundations of the administrative anti-British state were constructed.
	And those people should be at least not welcome in the average pub.
	Anyway.
	You're right.
	You're rather right.
	Move it this way, because if you're leaning this way, you talk into it.
	Yeah.
	So I thought we'd talk about something a little bit more jolly, which is the ideology gap between men and women, how women have been radicalized to the point where relationships between men and women are becoming impossible.
	That's more jolly, isn't it?
	Oh, what a cheerful topic.
	Cheers, Carl.
	Really brightens up my day.
	I'm telling you, just men do the washing up sometimes and we'll be fine.
	I wish it were that simple.
	If it were that simple, you'd have far fewer problems.
	If it works in our house, I take out the bins.
	Get a washing machine.
	You don't need to do it that way.
	Or dishwasher, should I say.
	But before we begin, tomorrow will be the last day of our US election merch.
	So go and get it while you still can to mark at least someone's phenomenal success and victory.
	At least...
	If we have to live vicariously through the Americans for the future of the Western world, fine, we will.
	If for some reason in Britain we can't get anything good done, fine.
	We of course support President Trump and we're looking forward to his administration.
	Hopefully he does declare total war on the Labour Party and Keir Starmer and manages to...
	Do whatever he can to support the patriots in Britain.
	Anyway, let's begin.
	Because this came out a long time ago now.
	Probably like eight, nine months ago, something like that.
	I can't remember the exact date of hand.
	It was ages ago.
	January, right.
	So this was an interesting article about the new global gender divide.
	Because Alice Evans, a visiting fellow at Stanford University and one of the leading researchers on the topic...
	had done a lot of polling of young men and young women around the world and what she had found is that in countries on every continent an ideological gap had opened up between young men and young women.
	Tens of millions who occupy the same cities, workplaces and classrooms and even homes no longer see eye to eye.
	And so this is just examining Gallup data In particular.
	But it shows after decades where the sexes each were spread roughly across liberal and conservative worldviews, women aged 18 to 30 are now 30 percentage points more liberal than their main contemporaries.
	And this gap took just six years to open up.
	Thoughts?
	Universities.
	Women are far more likely to go to university than men now, I'd say.
	A majority of women, or at least like 60%, do now, and they're an absolute cesspit for progressive, liberal thought, particularly the strains of feminism telling them that, you know, motherhood is tyranny, having a husband, a man who cares for you is tyranny.
	All of that kind of stuff.
	The state should be your parent, essentially, and your husband and your child.
	Any thoughts, Josh?
	Quite a few.
	So I think the South Korea example is quite interesting.
	We'll put that to the side for the minute.
	Okay, I don't want to spoil that then.
	South Korea is a bit of an unusual case.
	I do agree that there is a feminism and perhaps liberalism element to it because I think it's that thing that Peterson used to talk about quite a lot whereby if you eliminate all sort of legal gender imbalances, then what you get is a maximization of difference.
	And my sort of working theory, and this is just a theory, is that men are more happy to go against the grain because we tend to be more disagreeable in nature, or at least we're far more happy being the one person in the room who says something that people disagree with.
	And women tend to, this is a generalisation of course, tend to be the people who enforce the current paradigm.
	And at the minute, the current paradigm is left-wing.
	And that is being forced more and more forcefully as it becomes weaker and weaker.
	Well, and feminine.
	I think that's the point.
	It's not just that it's liberal, it's feminine.
	Well, yes, absolutely.
	And I think, I mean, even if you look at the men, you know, whoever's in charge of Scotland now keeps changing so much.
	It's that bold fella.
	Yeah, yeah, and Sadiq Khan, even Keir Starmer, all these people, very, very weak, milquetoast.
	You're not talking about how Keir Starmer throws a punch, are you?
	Oh, that video is pathetic.
	Embarrassing, yeah.
	But I do think as well that our society, what reason is there for people my sort of age and younger, you know, I'm still only 29 despite, you know, politics aging me, What reason do we have to care about society?
	We've got nothing.
	We've got no material possessions, really.
	We've got no way of getting on the housing ladder.
	We're legally discriminated against.
	Why should we have a stake in society?
	Why should we follow these rules?
	Because we do all the hard work and get demonised.
	So what reason is there to agree with this consensus that women go along with, which I think a lot of the time they're beneficiaries of?
	I think primary schools might be interesting as well because where state education has become much more institutionalised since the 80s and state education tends to be pretty driven by women and there's no boys and girls schools anymore even under the state system, no grammar schools.
	Men from very early childhood are basically only having female influences right up to when they go to university.
	And even at university, the professors are beginning to skew more dominantly towards women.
	And I think that breeds resentment when they have no role models around them which they can aspire to.
	Because everyone around them is a woman.
	And treating the men and the boys in the same terms as they treat the women and the girls.
	And they can't.
	It doesn't work.
	Well, they're treated like faulty women, really, aren't they?
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	That's certainly my experience in school.
	I got into trouble a fair amount just by being sort of boyish and having innocent fun.
	Well, all these boys getting now branded as having ADHD. It's like, no, no, they're just proactive.
	Yeah, they're just boys.
	Yeah, they just would rather be outside building something than sitting here trying to make their handwriting look nice.
	That's one of the revelations from psychology really is that perhaps this panic about ADHD and medicalising children is a moral panic that is actually...
	I think it certainly is.
	It puts all sorts of mental constraints upon them.
	How many people do you see on social media with their disorders in their bio?
	People use it to limit themselves because it gives them an excuse not to aspire and to overcome.
	And they've been told they don't need to because if you have any one of these labels, the state will look after you.
	And so you can brush your hands of life, you know, you can sit at home and just watch Netflix and receive your paycheck at the end.
	Moreover, though, when it comes to the boys in particular, suggesting, oh, this is just, he's got ADHD or he's got autism or something like that.
	It's a way of implying that actually you don't need to discipline them.
	You don't need to train them to overcome this behavior.
	And I'm very much against that because, of course, I've got two boys and they're typical boys.
	And so I've had people like, oh, we should get them diagnosed for ADHD. No.
	You know, he's just going to learn not to do it and it's going to be difficult because that's what it is like.
	Well, that's why, I mean, the most well-rounded men that I know in my lives, broadly speaking, are the ones that went to scouts or did air cadets or sea cadets or army cadets.
	Like, something where there was a male environment, where there was constraints put upon them.
	Expectations of behaviour.
	And those expectations of behaviour weren't, well, you're going to get detention if you don't behave.
	It's You're just going to look really foolish in front of all your friends, so I hope you enjoy that.
	And that gets them in line far, far easier.
	So, coming back to this, I think that education is indeed the root of the problem, but I think you are correct that the overall sort of feminization of society is a large part of it as well.
	But the education system being dominated by women and being...
	Presided over by a left-wing ideology, which it is, is the problem because of course if you're being inculcated into feminism your whole life through from your earliest earliest years in school through secondary school and into university well if you're a woman then maybe you will go yeah okay I agree with all this because it basically Confirms my biases.
	But if you're a man, you might say no.
	And I think what they've got here on the chart is very interesting.
	Because in Germany and the United States, men are barely going right wing.
	Men are actually quite centrist in this regard.
	And it's actually the women who are radically to the left wing.
	In the UK, Men are very weak and leftist themselves.
	I mean, being 25 points to the left makes you a radical left-wing in my view.
	Being 50-plus points to the left makes you an insane communist.
	So the UK is incredibly left-wing, which is very insufferable.
	British men are...
	Definitely letting down the side.
	The case in South Korea where the men have actually become conservative because in all of these other cases they're not really conservative.
	The South Korean case is a bit of a unique case because the problems there seem to have Gone a bit deeper.
	I know a little bit about it.
	Yeah, I've only scratched the surface, but it's insane.
	But there was some feminist conspiracy to some weird cult.
	Oh, it's doing their birthright really well.
	Yeah, but there was some weird feminist cult that took over South Korea.
	That's been trying to turn the men into women, and so the men have become very reactionary.
	I mean, it sounds similar to what we're doing here, except we're going the surgical way rather than the psychological.
	No, no, it's very, very overt.
	It's also worth mentioning as well that South Koreans do compulsory military service, and so that probably does something to you, doesn't it?
	Well, it seems to be a direct response to feminism.
	I mean, they, by a narrow margin, elected an open anti-feminist man to be their president or prime minister after the fall of the feminist regime, which is like...
	There was a hilarious debate in South Korea.
	Yeah, I know, yeah, apparently that can happen.
	But there was this hilarious debate where all the men were being conscripted and all of these feminists were talking about patriarchy.
	And they said, well, if this is a patriarchy, you know, come and join us.
	Join us in the military.
	And they're like, oh, actually, no.
	And I think that they realized that when faced with forced conscription, actually, feminist principles don't carry that far.
	And we saw that when the Ukraine war kicked off, didn't we?
	Suddenly all these women were housewives, you know, mothers rather than boss girls going out there.
	So the Financial Times ascribes this, they think, to the Me Too movement.
	They think that Me Too was the main trigger of this.
	And I'm not sure I agree.
	So if you look at the time on their graphs, it's in the early 2010s where it just uniformly rockets straight upwards.
	And so I think this is when feminism became the dominant cultural paradigm of Western countries, what we call the international community.
	And I think that that's been reflected in the statistics.
	I think MeToo is downstream of that.
	This is a consequence of having a dominant feminist paradigm.
	But of course, I don't think that's the cause of it.
	And they say in particular, you know, this was something that happened in South Korea.
	And I have to suggest that the problems in South Korea possibly run a little bit deeper than simply Me Too.
	And so they don't have anything else to try and pin this on.
	They only have Me Too.
	They don't want to.
	Yeah, that's the point.
	It's a disturbing thing to do, isn't it?
	If you would say, well, I mean, maybe it's the entire approach about our civilization that has been kind of geared against men and for women, and maybe that isn't just, then everything has to change.
	The Financial Times is hardly a right-wing paper.
	And so they are worried about the quote-unquote radicalization of men, and to that I would say, well, where's the evidence of it?
	They're all watching the Lotus Eaters.
	We're very centrist.
	We're not radicals.
	We're very much middle of the road, like men in the US and Germany who are voting for Trump and the AFD. And that's one of their concerns.
	In Germany, for instance, half of young men under 30 have shifted towards the far right AFD. Well, by whose standard is it far right?
	Well, by people who are 40% to the left.
	I don't really agree that that's far right, actually.
	I think I'm actually quite normal.
	Anyway, so we get attempts at explanations.
	And this is from the London School of Economics, which for some reason is a really left-wing place.
	It's in London.
	Yeah.
	That'll be it.
	Yeah, and so they took the example of Spain, where the same phenomenon is happening.
	Young men are not going to the right, women are going to the right, to the left even.
	Young men are not going to the left, women are going to the left.
	And so they decided to do an amazing study of what do politicians who are left-wing do and what do politicians who are right-wing do?
	And they used mayors, in fact.
	And they found that mayors from the center-right party We're less likely than mayors to their left to introduce preschool or long-term care services.
	Ah, well, there we go.
	That explains why women are going so radically to the left.
	No, I think there might be a little bit more to it than that, actually.
	That's such a pedantic thing.
	No, no, but that really is, like, what they've got here.
	And also, men just don't care about sending their children to preschool.
	I don't think so.
	No.
	But they are like, well, there are differences in gender-sensitive policies by party.
	And the centre-right mayors are, of course, less likely to have gender-sensitive policies.
	Gibbs, basically.
	The right is less likely to just have state Gibbs.
	And the left is more inclined to do so.
	And they're like, well, that's clearly the thing, changing women left-wing.
	So, no, I don't think that's the grand sum of it.
	And so people were, like people, the left was...
	Groping around going, okay, well, look, if it's not just the fact that, you know, the politicians are giving women free stuff, surely it's TikTok.
	I don't think it is.
	I don't think actually social media is the thing responsible for this.
	I think it's a downstream thing, isn't it?
	It's showing the symptoms rather than actually being the cause.
	Very much.
	We all know that this is downstream from Gamergate.
	Oh, absolutely.
	But the issue is that power, wealth and status is being accrued by the left.
	And therefore, these things, as you say, are all downstream of that flow.
	And so when they say, well, I mean, look at the social media platforms again.
	Very much captured by left-wing ideology.
	But the thing is, a lot of social media platforms didn't begin captured by left-wing ideology.
	Twitter, back in 2009, described itself as the free speech wing of the free speech party, as in the Democrats, who are supposed to be pro-free speech.
	Mark Zuckerberg is basically libertarian, and...
	Started Facebook just to be able to perv on women.
	I reject that.
	That's not part of the non-aggression principle, sir.
	I'm not saying he did that because he's a military.
	He did that because he's a man.
	There'll be plenty of people filling in the gaps there.
	Yeah, maybe.
	At least there's adult women.
	Calm down.
	It's not Blue Sky.
	That's making it worse.
	But the point is, he's not like a doctrinaire leftist who's like, right, I'm going to left-wing everything.
	These are people who are captured by a kind of cultural movement.
	And so they've decided that it must be, of course, social media.
	And there we go.
	Here's the arch-villain on the left, one Mr. Tate, who I believe has recently exonerated from the accusations against him as well, which is interesting.
	But anyway, the point being, they are very afraid of people like Andrew Tate and Nigel Farage as they see them embodying a kind of masculine revolution against the feminist orthodoxy.
	I've got to say, Nigel Farage is looking very different than I remember him.
	Well, that isn't Nigel Farage, but they do point him out.
	Oh, there he is.
	Damn.
	Yeah, but the point they're making in this is they are worried about the insurgent right-wing men, quote-unquote.
	But they do interview a few people who give their thoughts.
	And one woman says her younger brother is an Andrew Tate fan.
	And what's interesting about this is it's become a kind of symbol of revolution against the feminist order.
	No, I like Andrew Tate, actually.
	To hell with you.
	I like Nigel Farage.
	To hell with you.
	I like Donald Trump.
	To hell with you.
	And this is one of the reasons why people like Andrew Tate have been so roundly deplatformed, demonetized and kicked out of polite society and investigated by the state.
	She said that she was dismayed by her brother's approval of Tate, but had some sympathy for those who were attracted to online spaces where his views are espoused.
	There has been a hyper focus on correcting inequalities of the past, she said.
	I like the way this just happened that there was a hyper focus on correcting inequalities of the past.
	It's amazing how this just appears out of the ether, isn't it?
	Whenever the left talks about things that the right does, it's like it sort of emerges out of the ground.
	They have no notion that it could...
	The far right have sprung up for some reason.
	Yeah, and she says, but I think on net that's probably a good thing.
	So she benefits from the feminist order.
	Her brother, feeling dispossessed and resentful, goes, no, I'm a big fan of Andrew Tate now.
	And she's like, well, you know, it's a good thing that I won and I got everything I wanted and it's a good thing you didn't get what you wanted.
	So this is a very obvious point, but I'm going to have to point it out, that any ideology that makes you turn against your family is probably not good for you.
	Yeah.
	She carries on, though, and says, Citing the often-quoted line, Men are trash.
	Ah, interesting.
	So we do agree that it's the left-wing hegemony that renders the world into these two categories and has done for decades now and has been in the schools, been in the media, been in the governments and has ascribed resources and prestige based on these categories to women against men.
	And we accept that Andrew Tate and people like him have become totemic of the masculine struggle against this kind of spiritual domination.
	So even they admit this, that is definitely why women have become radicalized, but men have not, as we saw.
	Again, this is not a graph that demonstrates men being radicalized, even though that's how it's being reported.
	Connor Smug Mug says, Carl, read Creature Girls, a hands-on field journal in another world.
	While they aren't maybe pretty bad, I think you'll like the way the relations are portrayed amongst other races, quote unquote.
	I have no idea what that is, sorry.
	The left wants soy men for their docile and compliant nature.
	That's why the left cried about removing fluoride from the water.
	Definitely true.
	They make better consumers, don't they?
	Well, women are much better consumers than men, which 83% of domestic spending is by women.
	Well, I think that what there has been is a war on stoic sort of asceticism almost, because that comes a bit more naturally to men.
	We keep to ourselves and we don't buy much.
	That's not great if you want to harvest us for money.
	You'll never see a scatter cushion in a single man's house.
	I don't know what that is.
	You're not supposed to know what that is.
	You know, like cushions that are superfluous to purpose.
	Decorative cushions.
	It's an old Lee Evans joke from way back in 2011. He'd say how he'd come home and his wife would have scatter cushions everywhere and they'd have to remove them all before they could get into bed.
	And it's an example of this female materialism that's completely alien to men.
	That is definitely true.
	That's a Random Name says, all of these explanations to the political divide between men and women are BS. Generally, women enforce the current paradigm, as you said.
	Therefore, the moment it becomes a normal call to be right, they'll flip.
	And I think we're seeing that now, actually, in America, with women on TikTok doing the little Trump dance.
	I think Trump's victory has made being right-wing cool, which is great.
	It's not a tough sell to say the left-wing are uncool.
	I mean, just look at them.
	Yeah, look at them.
	They're gross and crazy.
	And they want bad things.
	Why would you want bad things?
	If you want good things, you know, like our politics.
	The thing is though, I'm actually always fascinated how the fact that the left managed to get over the fact that surely being a leftist gives women the ick, right?
	It's gross.
	Not if you're on birth control, as you guys have covered many times.
	Yeah, good point.
	So yeah, the women not on birth control are like, ugh, I'm going to vote Trump.
	And the women on birth control are just probably unsalvageable.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	To another cheery subject here.
	So, you think the migrant crisis is bad in, say, the US or other European countries?
	Well, I took a look at Italy and, my goodness, is it horrifying.
	I wanted to talk about the actual nature of what they're having to put up with because I don't think we focused on Italy that much recently as well as what they've been trying to do because they're one of the countries that is actually trying to do something about it because they have Georgia Maloney at the front who still letting in lots of migrants but is at least trying to appear to be doing something.
	And I'm going to horrify you and some of these stories are quite horrible so if you do have young children around I would advise perhaps turning this off and coming back to it another time or getting them out of the room or whatever.
	I'm going to try and keep it as sanitary as possible though but here's something from Remix I've been doing.
	I've cited them quite a lot in this article because they do some great stuff.
	So 11,141 Italian women have been, and I can't say that word on YouTube, sexually assaulted by foreigners since 2018. And that means that between 2018 and 2023, when the figures were gathered, that is five cases a day.
	Jesus.
	All right.
	Which, when you put it like that, just like, well, we're going to let these people in.
	Don't you think of, you know, think of their poor humanitarian needs.
	Yeah, think of their human rights, bro.
	But then when you counter it with five women a day, actually, no, I care more about those five women in my country than some person that's broke into my country trying to get...
	Some chancer.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what they are.
	Mm-hmm.
	And then Georgia Maloney came out and shared some of these statistics, which I do support.
	She said, last year in Italy there were 5,832 sexual assaults on women.
	Of these, 2,524 were committed by foreign nationals.
	So that's...
	That's crazy.
	Isn't that more than 10 a day?
	Yes.
	It's over half.
	So the problem's getting even worse than five a day.
	That's like nearly 20 a day.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's ridiculous, isn't it?
	And then a total 43.3% of the crimes were committed by a representative 8% of the population.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, Josh, that is a right-wing talking point.
	Yeah, it's a right-wing conspiracy that disproportionately, per capita...
	Yes, everyone commits crimes equally.
	Everyone has their time to murder, they just don't know it yet.
	It's not that morality exists or anything.
	And then there was this as well.
	A Pakistani migrant sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl at a bus stop and thankfully She managed to eventually get away and call for help and he did get caught so I suppose that's a good thing but she was just waiting at a bus stop and this 40 year old man attacked her basically.
	It's becoming harder and harder to let your kids out of the house.
	It is, yeah.
	Well, it's one of those things that's massively changed over the past 50, 60 years, in Britain at least, is that people's willingness to let their children go and play outside or, you know, trust in the local community.
	Yeah, well, I grew up doing that and I know I lived in South Devon, so it's basically, you know, utopia, but still.
	But it was like that all over the country.
	You know, it's just Britain was a safe place.
	England was a safe place.
	Everyone knew it and no one thought about it.
	And then something changed in 1997. Well, I think the population thing is important in sheer numbers because part of the security you had was that everyone knew each other.
	In the local area.
	And so if you saw someone going into someone's house and you're like, you don't normally go there, you don't visit them, or you're not a familiar face around here, you can almost guarantee that something's going on.
	And so you call the local Bobby, who's only two streets away.
	Well, that worked, didn't it?
	Yeah.
	And it is worth pointing out as well.
	It depends what you mean by worked.
	It created a nice, wholesome, pleasant, safe, productive society.
	That works for me.
	Yeah, but that might not be the goal.
	That's true.
	It doesn't work for the Pakistani grooming gang.
	It is worth mentioning as well.
	I've been looking at historic population growth throughout history and actually large, sudden population growth presages conflict in many cases.
	I'm glad we've finally got a study to prove that.
	I know.
	The data has proved what a reading of history can do.
	Isn't it interesting that a war will then break out and cull off much of the population?
	It's like a weird autoimmune reaction built into our psyches.
	There are lots of different behaviours that when population density gets too high, human behaviour changes and becomes less pro-social.
	If you become anonymous within your own community, within your own street, it feels like a cloak.
	You know, you can go around and do whatever you want and no one's going to pay second attention.
	You can get away with stuff in broad daylight because...
	Well, there are lots of aspects of just urban density that lead to more crime.
	And I don't think it's desirable to live in a city, really.
	It's just an economic zone that you go to, raid the income and leave to a nicer place.
	And I don't think that's healthy or good for anyone in the long run.
	Well, cities used to be cheap, right, because they were the areas of prosperity.
	You'd go there with barely any money and be able to get a really cheap room and just work until you could earn enough money to start a family, have a home, all of that kind of stuff.
	Afford to retire in the countryside.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	But now, you have to sell your soul just to live in the cities now.
	So there was also this.
	This was a tourist from South America, which I imagine she probably presumed, okay, I'm going to Europe.
	I'll finally be safe now.
	And what happened was she was asking for directions or something like that, I think.
	And then a man of Arab appearance, apparently, approached her and offered assistance.
	She was looking for an ATM. And then there was a young boy around 18, if there's anything she needed.
	And then He led her supposedly to an ATM, actually.
	It was an abandoned building where she got ambushed by a bunch of North Africans.
	Why are these people here?
	Yes.
	You ask that every week, but there is no answer yet.
	I know.
	And then even in the asylum centres themselves, this was a Bangladeshi migrant sexually assaulted and got pregnant.
	A 10-year-old child in the asylum centre in Italy.
	Just...
	I just can't believe the kind of horrors we are presiding over in the West.
	This just didn't happen.
	Yeah.
	When I was young, I'd never heard of anything like this.
	Well, I think that you look at the case of, say, Joseph Fritzl.
	Everyone in all of Europe knows who he is, roughly.
	And that's a regular Tuesday afternoon in Pakistan.
	So the cultural divide is absolutely massive.
	But this is the thing.
	It's not that these things never happened in Europe.
	It's that they very rarely happened.
	And when they did, because they were so rare, the news spread everywhere.
	These people became infamous.
	And so even if they managed to get out of prison after 30 years, they basically couldn't live here because everyone would know who they are.
	Everyone would continue to punish them until they died.
	I think for many of these crimes, they shouldn't be able to live full stop.
	I mean, I think that...
	Or anyone who murders someone.
	Definitely.
	I would say sexual assault as well, when it's cases like this.
	In these sort of contexts.
	So, this one is horrific.
	So, an Iraqi man who was an asylum seeker watched his wife and child die, and to take out his frustration, he sexually assaulted and murdered a teen whilst the ship was sinking.
	So it's like the final thing he did before coming to Italy.
	That's just such a remarkable commitment to the crime.
	It's like the most evil you could condense into a short period of time.
	Yeah, I mean...
	I'm dying, let's do this.
	If I was on a sinking ship, I think I'd have much different priorities.
	Like trying to preserve your wife and child?
	Yeah, also, you know, watching your child and wife die...
	We choked her to death in front of her mother to vent his frustration.
	Man, we don't understand these people.
	That's all I'm saying.
	We certainly don't need them in Europe, that's for sure.
	But that's the thing, we don't need to understand them.
	We spent too long trying to understand them and rationalise the things that they do.
	And we can't.
	We actually can't.
	You do not understand this person's worldview at all.
	No, the whole psychology of it, the philosophy of it, is too foreign to us.
	And so we should stop trying to understand and just support them.
	here where unions actually called a strike because a train conductor was stabbed by a North African migrant.
	I'm not going to scroll down and show the picture, but it's got to the point whereby you can't actually do your profession and you have to go to the unions and the Italians and the unions, you know, if you know your history, there's some interesting things going on there.
	But the fact that it gets to this point, right?
	Yeah.
	I'm surprised it hasn't happened in the UK already, given that we've seen so many train stabbings or station stabbings, you know, people jump in the gate.
	If one person on the gate actually says, no, you need to buy a ticket, well, they could just whip out a zombie knife and stab him in the neck.
	You don't know.
	So, almost through it all now.
	There's another video here.
	I'm not going to play this video because it's horrible, so don't play it, Samson.
	Of a migrant beating an elderly man and a disabled woman in a wheelchair, seemingly for no reason, just because he felt like it in Italy.
	And this is what is going on there.
	But, um...
	Man, Italy really has some problems.
	It does, but it does seem like there are people in Italy that have their heads screwed on properly and are talking about these things, like Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini accused Keir Starmer of persecuting citizens who oppose legal immigration and defend family values.
	And he says, will blocking illegal immigration, defending the family and fighting Islamic fanaticism be considered illegal forks to be punished, he asked.
	The answer that would be yes.
	Yes, he's right.
	But it's good to hear as well that he's trying to...
	Yeah, good for Salvini.
	Yeah, good for him, being in government, having those opinions, and thank you for putting pressure on Keir Starmer as well.
	So it does seem like there are people.
	There's another one here that I saw recently.
	This is a sociologist, which I had to pinch myself, one of the most left wing of the so-called sciences.
	He issued a warning of civil unrest in Italian suburbs linked to illegal immigration.
	And he basically said, if you want to solve this without violence, you need to remigrate people.
	Yeah.
	Why are there millions of North Africans milling around Italy, assaulting the population?
	It's not something that the native Italians should have to put up with.
	No, obviously it is.
	I mean, I know it's been said on this channel a thousand times, but they need to stop conceding ground with illegal immigration.
	Yeah, it just needs to be immigration.
	Yep, immigration more generally.
	Particularly when all these people just get given free passes.
	Well, the difference between an illegal immigrant and a legal migrant with the standards in much of Europe isn't that much, to be honest.
	And so I wanted to talk about Albanians now.
	Oh, good.
	Because if anyone is...
	Have you got a problem with Albanians as well?
	Yes.
	Albania is the only place without Albanian problems.
	That's true.
	I was saying before the podcast, actually, that if you look at a map of crimes committed by foreign nationals, most of Europe lights up red except Albania.
	It's a massive condemnation.
	I'm just like, why is Albania like this?
	They just must have really good police.
	Albania is the safest place in Europe because all the Albanian criminals are elsewhere.
	But I did a bit of number crunching myself using a bunch of government sources here.
	And they are 0.05% of the UK population.
	They make up 1.6% of all prisoners, which makes them 32 times overrepresented.
	they're the largest foreign prison population at 14% the average prisoner by the way costs the taxpayer £51,724 and the most frustrating thing is as of March 2023 prisoners who agreed to deportation had their jail term reduced and received a payment of £1,500 I don't really understand.
	Agree to deportation?
	No, deportation is against their will whether they like it or not.
	Why do they have to agree with it?
	We shouldn't have to pay them.
	We will physically remove them, should be the thought.
	Also, if they go back to Albania and say, oh, did you have a nice time?
	Yeah, well, I got paid £1,500 after being caught committing crime.
	They must think, we've got money to throw away.
	Oh good, it's the Dengel there.
	And then in 2022, there were 28% of illegal immigrants with 27% of their asylum applications being granted.
	Asylum from what?
	Well, I'm from Albania.
	Well, there are no criminals there, are there?
	Exactly, it's the safest place in the world.
	But there's no war.
	It shouldn't be possible to be an asylum seeker from Albania.
	But I think that they have quite a strong hand in the illegal immigration trade in Europe.
	And actually a lot of the people arrested and caught are Albanians.
	No kidding.
	The Wehrgeld analogy was good.
	That's exactly what's going on, is we're just trying to pay the problem to go away, and it's not going to.
	No, it didn't work for Ethel Road the Unready.
	It's not going to work for us.
	So let's have a look at how the Italians have been dealing with these dingy enthusiasts.
	So, in February of 2024, Italy finalised a deal with Albania to transfer 36,000 asylum seekers to detention centres in Albania.
	Many of these, of course, being Albanians themselves.
	Yeah.
	And they estimated the cost to be 650 million euros for the first five years of the agreement, which would continue, which is a lot of money to be paying.
	I mean, it's not as much as we're spending on illegals, but whatever.
	I know, but the Italians have less money to play with as well.
	Sure, but we're spending three billion every year.
	That's true.
	Just look at the IRC ruling that to send Albanians and others back to Albania is both costly, cruel, and counterproductive.
	Cruel?
	Yeah, cruel.
	Right.
	It's cruel to keep Albanians and Albanians.
	Okay.
	And so what so then to inflict them upon the population of Europe is nice, but counterproductive to what?
	Wow, that's the question, isn't it?
	Their ideology is obviously very left-wing, right?
	It's like, oh, their human rights are terrible.
	But the thing is that they won't be preserved forever.
	Eventually, it will come to their streets, it will come to their doors.
	You know, we've seen it with a couple of MPs that have been attacked or sexually assaulted and suddenly they become, you know, we've seen it with some celebrities in Hollywood, suddenly they become really conservative because the effect of their policies finally actually reaches them.
	So I don't, sure, it serves their ideology, but for how long?
	It's going to catch up to them.
	Is it just that they don't believe that it will or think that they'll be gone by then?
	I just can't understand the...
	I think we should just leave the chat to guess at what the aim of this is and why it's counterproductive and cruel.
	Send them back to Albania.
	They can fill in the blanks, I'm sure.
	It's nothing to do with a migration that is very big.
	Yeah.
	So here is Politico reporting that 12 migrants sent to Albania for processing are returned to Italy.
	So what was happening was that lots of them were being returned.
	12 Albanians got sent to Albania.
	And the Albanians are like, no, thank you.
	No, that's not how it works.
	So the immigration unit of Rome's court, which I can't believe they have an immigration unit at all, decided on Friday that migrants sent to Albania by Italy cannot be detained.
	However, they cannot be released in Albania either.
	Therefore, they will be vetted for asylum eligibility in Italy or potentially sent back to their countries of origin.
	So it's, again, the justice system sticking their nose in against the democratic will.
	So is it not just Albanians being sent to Albania?
	No.
	To be honest with you, I'm for it.
	This is what you get.
	I think we should send...
	It's North Africans.
	We should send all sorts of people to Albania.
	It doesn't matter if they're Albanian.
	You're doing it to us.
	I might do it to the French, too.
	Yeah, why not?
	You're letting them cross.
	No, not our problem now.
	The thing is, if all peoples and cultures and civilizations are equal, why is Albania a bad place?
	You know, obviously it's going to be an ethnic enclave.
	So surely the more indigenous people, the more wholesome and rich it is.
	So what's wrong with Albania?
	They don't sell bacon.
	That's one thing.
	That is against my human rights.
	Yeah, yeah, go have a bacon sarnie in the morning.
	But it's also worth mentioning as well, Elon Musk picked up on this much later because Ian Miles Chong again reheating old news, but he said this is unacceptable.
	It's good that he got this to Musk.
	This is unacceptable.
	Do the people of Italy live in a democracy or does an unelected autocracy make the decisions?
	Well, the answer is the second.
	And the unelected autocracy took exception to this.
	Italy's president scolds Elon Musk over comments regarding countries' court ruling.
	So this was Sergio Mattarella, the president of Italy since 2015, who is affiliated with the Democratic Party.
	and as with the US they are left-wing.
	And basically he said, "Italy is a great democratic country and I must reiterate with the words used on another occasion that it is known how to take care of itself while respecting its constitution.
	Anyone, particularly if, as announced, they are about to assume an important government role in a friendly and allied country, must respect its sovereignty and cannot assume the task of giving it prescriptions." Right, so 5,000 rapes a year is the goal?
	Apparently.
	A part of the new normal.
	This is Italy, working as intended, is it?
	Yeah, he's just failing to recognise the nature of the problem and instead criticising Elon Musk's conduct, which is a very good deflection tactic, but is wearing a little bit thin these days and I don't think it works nearly as well as it used to.
	I mean, we do need to get Musk on side re-immigration.
	He just seems to think that all legal migration is bringing in people here exactly like him, which just is not the case.
	It's one of the foundational myths of America there, isn't it?
	I think he's quite wedded to the idea.
	But I mean, from his perspective, sure, a lot of really high-skilled, competent people move to Silicon Valley or Texas or whatever, and he's surrounded by all these brilliant immigrants.
	Yeah, okay, great, but that's not the majority story.
	Well, and the thing is, he knows this because he's born in South Africa and was raised there.
	So he knows that within that European paradigm of multiculturalism, it doesn't work because everyone began in their own ethnic enclave.
	America's foundational story is the mixture of people, the melting pot.
	And so it works there to a degree in a way that it just can't in Europe.
	But it is also worth pointing out that you look at boroughs in New York, there were ethnic enclaves.
	No, exactly.
	You had lots of different areas that were identified very strongly with...
	Well, I mean, outside the cities, it's still an ethnic enclave, really.
	Yeah.
	But the point is, America has a kind of foundational myth and a proposition behind it that makes sense to a new person who's arrived.
	There's a set of rules.
	You have constitutional rights, but everyone else has constitutional rights, so just do as you're supposed to.
	And fair enough, okay, you know, you get like New York and ethnic enclaves, but...
	I think my pedantry is basically focused on the fact that the binding mythos was never true to begin with, and it's always been that way.
	And so they adopted a decree to overrule the court objections and Decided to try and deport some more people, except they sent these eight migrants to Albania, and they hadn't processed the first group, and then, well, one of them got sent back again, even though it was only eight.
	Seven down, guys.
	So I'm going to read a little bit about this.
	It says, Which is why we want him here!
	Which made it impossible for him to remain at the reception centre.
	That's an interesting name for it.
	Prison camps better.
	One of the activists said, currently only seven migrants, five from Bangladesh, two from Egypt, both countries that are supposedly safe, depending on what religion you belong to.
	Remain at the centre.
	And it's got so bad that they've paid all this money to get this deal going.
	And as of pretty much two days ago, they began withdrawing staff from the offshore detention centre because they just weren't doing anything, because they didn't have enough people to process and deal with.
	They were just like, well, this isn't going anywhere.
	This is where our illegals would come if we had some.
	And so even with illegal migration, they do have the political means to push it through, but they're just constantly getting these hurdles thrown up by these left-wing activists.
	And it's going to be back and forth until the problem isn't solved.
	And even though they're trying to do something about it, it does seem like it's going to be a lot of hard work.
	And I know that's a very depressing note to end on.
	But I think that we've got to realistically highlight how much of a difficult process this will be, because there will be people putting up roadblocks all along the way.
	Yeah, lefty lawyers.
	It is.
	It's the human rights lawyers, the Keir Starmers of the world, people like that, NGOs.
	Keir Starmer's probably like, well look, have any of them murdered a child yet?
	Let me know when they have.
	I'll get involved.
	Well, this is the thing.
	He's almost primarily responsible for how the ECHR run immigration, particularly with regards to Africa, because obviously he's been a campaigner Free of charge for getting the death penalty overturned in Africa,
	but also all the things like hotel provisions, food, all of that that the state are paying for is downstream of Keir Starmer's academic legal work.
	I mean, that case that everyone was saying, oh, this is him representing Axel Rudakabana's father.
	And it wasn't.
	It was a woman from Rwanda who was 42. But that whole six people making claims, the actual case was for conditions and they were making the case that they were living in destitution in the UK because they'd just turned up and had nowhere to go and therefore it was the state's responsibility to cover their human rights.
	That's what Keir Starmer argued and that then got turned into the ECHR laws that we currently have.
	So it's entirely his fault, our current hotel situation.
	Absolutely.
	And so, yes, I wanted to give a bit of an update, show people where we're at, and it's not that good, at least for Italy.
	And with that, let's go to the video comments.
	No video comments.
	Oh, we've got a bunch of rumble chats, actually.
	That's fine, yeah, we've got loads of other comments there.
	Right, okay, so binary surf says, "Is there a single societal change women have made on society in the last century that's been positive?" I personally think that society sort of peaked in about 1870.
	Yeah, I knew you were going to say that.
	I knew you were going to say that.
	Well, you know me too well.
	Yeah, but you're probably right.
	That's the thing.
	Matt says, England needs to take back their right to self-defense.
	Well, so does Italy by the sounds of it.
	I just can't get over it.
	There's 5,900 women a year getting fucking raped and sexually assaulted.
	That's insane.
	Binary again says, I recently moved from one of the large cities in the UK to a rural area a long way out.
	It's like going back to the 90s.
	Largely safe, no needles, no random fights.
	It's like when I go back home.
	It's like anywhere outside of a town centre, basically.
	Devon and Cornwall's like a refugee camp for former England.
	Actually, don't go there.
	No, it's not.
	It's my neck of the woods.
	We don't like outsiders.
	That's where Adam Name says, how many lives must be ruined before this is stopped?
	Well, there doesn't appear to be a limit.
	That's the thing.
	The more the merrier, I think, as far as the state is concerned.
	It's not even on their radar.
	No, they literally don't care.
	Cass Dwen says, That seems to be correct, actually, yeah.
	What a mess.
	Yeah, I mean, probably.
	Bald Eagle says, If every country took the approach that Hungary is to the EU, then this problem would be solved.
	The EU is withholding funds to members that don't turn the line, but it seems that the EU is another mafia.
	Yes.
	Like most states.
	I mean, that's going to sort itself out anyway.
	The actual European Union will collapse and everyone's going to go back to policing themselves, essentially.
	There might be a vague sort of coalition with regards to trade and moving people through the continent, but...
	I mean, a confederation is fine, so you're politically aligned, but self-governing.
	Can I unleash a little bit of autism here?
	I'm a big fan of bilateral agreements over unilateral agreements, because...
	It means that you can better negotiate with the host country on individual terms rather than all having to agree to terms that no one is happy with.
	You're constantly able to negotiate and you don't have to negotiate the rules for everyone.
	And you can just negotiate between the country you want to deal with and yourself.
	That makes sense.
	And the terms don't have to be equal, right?
	Because that's the problem is everyone's trying to get, oh, we need everything to be exactly the same.
	No, some countries are better than others and have more materials in this department.
	More powerful than others.
	No, exactly, have more military that they can lend out.
	Or just have more resources.
	Well, they're trying to do something that's impossible, fundamentally, is the problem.
	Well, it's, in a way, manufacturing equity again, isn't it?
	Oh, yeah.
	So, yeah, no, I agree.
	Samson, do we actually have video comments?
	Yes, sorry.
	I thought we did.
	We did, but we do, so I'll follow you on that.
	All right, let's play.
	You wouldn't steal a wallet. - You wouldn't rob a bank.
	You wouldn't cut subsidies for the citizens and then steal farmer's land.
	You wouldn't sell that land to Blackrock, and then pledge farming subsidies to foreign nations, and then steal the money again!
	Taxation is stealing.
	If you do it, you will face the consequences.
	God, these anti-government ads are getting really mean.
	That was great.
	I love that.
	Let's go to the next one.
	And steal it again!
	You guys were talking about how to fix countries like France and I found myself thinking about the movie Under Paris, which is basically about sharks living in the Paris sewers.
	Ultimately ends with Paris being flooded and it's filled with sharks now.
	Sharks are on the streets.
	They are street sharks, you might call them.
	And I find myself thinking, you know, this probably would fix a lot of France's problems in the long term.
	Can any of you guys think of any movies that have endings that are bad, but when you think about it are actually good?
	A great flood that makes Paris better.
	The problem is it's the migrants that have the dinghies.
	Yeah, they've got boats, yeah.
	To be fair, a fair few migrants have been eaten by sharks on the way to Italy in particular.
	To be fair?
	To be fair to the sharks, they're pulling away.
	I like the way that our defences have literally resorted to Neptune, God of the Sea, rise up and save Europe.
	I'll tell you which film came to mind for me.
	World's End from the Cornetto trilogy, right?
	Like the whole of everything gets wiped out, all the electronics, everyone has to go back to homesteading and living in small communities and having families.
	I'd just do that anyway.
	That's a disaster film that actually is a good thing.
	Let's go to the next one.
	By making this so difficult for farmers to pass it down to their children, right?
	Who is going to be the people that can afford to buy the land that the family farms are going to have to sell to get through this inheritance tax thing?
	And who are going to be the people that can pay the tax?
	The whole idea behind this is getting rid of the richest people in this industry.
	They're the only people that are going to be able to afford it.
	Correct.
	That's just a completely reasonable point, yeah.
	And remarkably, you know, BlackRock's like, oh yes, we're working hand in hand with the Labour government.
	And what a surprise.
	Look at the market.
	It's full of small farms that need to be bought.
	There was no surreptition in trying to hide the link there at all.
	Literally, like a couple of days after that protest, they were like, oh, by the way, we teamed up with BlackRock.
	And it's like, of course you have.
	It's also worth mentioning, isn't Bill Gates the largest landowner in America now?
	And obviously he was seen in Downing Street just a week before the farmer's bill came out.
	You can see why people make conspiracy theories, can't you?
	Let's go to the next one.
	Pretty massive summer storm happening at the moment.
	And this is for a certain Lotus Eater that I hope is watching right now.
	Or Lotus Eater Fan rather.
	They work beautifully.
	Well, this is Pass Me By.
	What are they supposed to do?
	I don't know.
	They're not getting destroyed by rain.
	That's something.
	I think he's metaphorically giving whoever this person is some flowers.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, possibly.
	My male brain was thinking he's fastened them on.
	That must be it.
	They recommended how to fasten the baskets.
	See, my brain was like, okay, this must be some kind of plant that emits a smell or something that keeps spiders out or something, right?
	I don't know.
	You guys went like, what is the function of this?
	And I went, to please a woman.
	Which it might have been.
	Let's go to the next one.
	I'm elated that people are finally no longer in denial that Nigel Farage is a genocidal narcissist.
	He's just another far leftist who thinks he's better than you.
	There's no reason to play nice either, as it was Nigel who burned the bridge with Carl long ago now.
	And he did the same with Richard Tice and Hope Not Hate against Bo and Dan.
	He hates you plebs and pretends he loves you.
	His real goal is to just get attention on podcasts and TV, and he will appeal to the invaders and help them genocide you in order to be in front of a camera.
	If you notice it said con for...
	I did!
	I entirely agree.
	It's hard to find places to disagree with that.
	Anyway, Amanda says, Happy American Thanksgiving!
	You're welcome.
	We don't have anything.
	No, the Americans are getting angry in the comments underneath a post.
	Me and Joshua tagged in there like, you're working on Thanksgiving!
	It's like, we're not American!
	We don't celebrate it, yeah.
	We're okay to work on that.
	We do celebrate Independence Day, though, for different reasons.
	I was going to say, we should have celebrated.
	Baystate says, welcome to the podcast, Charlie.
	Remember to make fun of their ties.
	I think their ties are alright.
	Their ties are okay today.
	Thank you.
	They're okay.
	Just okay.
	Checkmate.
	Very good, aren't they?
	And Russian says, Charlie's a good guest, liking all her inputs and interactions.
	Well, good.
	Well, good.
	Kevin says, Tommy Robinson is in category A prison because that is where the likes of Lee Rigby murderers and the fanatics of their ilk reside.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's mental, mental, they're fucking with him, aren't they?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, there's just no reason.
	He's obviously not a violent criminal.
	Baron Von Warhawk says, back when the British country was a serious nation, somebody who shared media of babies getting sexually abused would have been burned at the stake.
	Yet in modern Britain, somebody who posted mean tweets is treating worse.
	You don't even have to post the mean tweets these days.
	It used to be that, okay, things you said on social media, fine, that's Communications Act, but at least saying something on the street was basically legal.
	well if you pray outside in silently in your head outside of an abortion clinic you get arrested now yeah um charles says uh thank you for talking about the peter lynch case even after the story passed by in the media i never knew peter but the case brings me extra sadness as he looks a little like my own father thankfully my father would never attend anything like this but he has watched the country because what the country has become over the years and i know he feels a deep resentment for what is happening that's why those pictures were quite poignant to me just like They had no idea what was coming.
	I had no idea.
	And there was no reason for them to think that this was coming either.
	Rory is a pike, he says.
	It's true.
	I certainly wouldn't put it past the UK government to be using Asian gangs and prisons as an official disincentive to defy them as well as a secondary punishment on top of it.
	Yeah, I think there's a consciousness of it.
	That's the thing.
	If the podcast ever goes down, by the way, that's Rory getting the copper wires out of the walls.
	Yeah.
	Eloise says, I cannot believe how petty the prosecution of Britain's has become.
	The law and regime has become pathological and hatred of its own.
	Yeah, and it's, I mean, it's a good thing, honestly, to have it so naked and in the open.
	I was going to say, I wish it was just petty.
	Because there's nothing insidious about pettiness.
	Pettiness is you take the last biscuit and eat it in front of someone's face.
	This is more than that.
	Feeling personally attacked now.
	It turns out there is some biscuit beef in this office that I had no idea about.
	People keep sending in biscuits.
	Some biscuits are better than others.
	Not all biscuits are made equal.
	But are the brown biscuits better?
	Chocolate-covered ones, yes.
	Basically brown.
	I feel top-tier biscuit.
	Chocolate-covered, digested.
	Yeah, the hobnobs, yeah, definitely.
	Okay, I'm glad we're in here.
	Oh yeah, that's the king of the biscuits.
	No.
	Not on the hobnob front, no.
	Well, what's your top-tier biscuit?
	Shortbread.
	Very Scottish answer.
	Particularly when it has chocolate chunks in it.
	Shortbread is good, but it's not a hot knob.
	It reminds me of my grandparents.
	Exactly, which is why it's superior.
	That's about it.
	This is going to go on, so let's move on.
	Thomas says, many cannot express what we count as justice in the case of Mr Lynch, and I don't blame them.
	Yeah, I'm feeling very much the same, but we live in a tyranny, so be careful.
	Lancelot says, he called the politicians and media corrupt.
	Notice their use of quotes here too.
	It's to discredit any criticism against sheer nonsense.
	Smear merchants going to smear.
	That is true.
	Alex says, Charlie's point about the Scouts made me realize how much of my formation as a man was shaped by the Scouts.
	Mine too.
	I'd never thought about it until now.
	It was the only male space with male role models.
	I actually did have quite a few male teachers in school.
	Me too, yeah.
	I didn't think of it as being noteworthy at the time.
	There was one in my school, and I had quite a big school.
	There was three classes to a year group, and each class had at least 30 kids in it.
	So it's about 100 kids to a year group.
	That's the same size as my school.
	Yeah, and I only had one male teacher in that whole time.
	I think one class had one at a different point.
	But yeah, in all that seven years, there were two male teachers.
	I had a bunch.
	I think also doing things like scouts or playing sports outside of school.
	I think that's one of the things.
	Football clubs.
	I think they're really good for boys.
	I played a lot of football.
	Anyway, Carl's underground cache of irradiated Freybentos says, look, they're underground to prevent them being irradiated.
	Says, on what Josh said about men feeling alienated and having no stake in society, the child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.
	True.
	Russian says, toxic masculinity is mentioned every week at my brother's school.
	Nobody ever questions it.
	It's evil to tell a bunch of men they're toxic for merely existing.
	Why have women become radicalised and men not?
	Kamarathan Chris says, Wait until there's civil distress and it's not safe to go outside.
	And all of these left-wing women have got his overgrown man-baby simps that can't even punch.
	Let's see how fast they run for a right-wing chud.
	I reckon a lot of these women are going to punch harder.
	Quite possibly.
	Particularly if they have children, so hopefully some innate thing in them will rear up.
	No, the era of the chud is approaching.
	I can feel it.
	Teach your sons to box.
	That's the thing.
	That is a good sport to do as well.
	Very good for your cardio.
	Yeah, I've got my sons doing it.
	They really love it as well.
	It's fun.
	Yeah, it's good fun to punch.
	George says, women are natural leftists.
	They will prefer security over freedom, which is how the state has grown rapidly ever since they had the ability to vote.
	Then there's the in-group bias and collectivism demonstrated by the US election.
	They picked a moron who just promised them the power to murder their babies repeal the 19th.
	Except they didn't, though.
	Yeah, do remember that white women did go majority to Trump.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, just saying.
	And Rustin says, how can you live like this?
	Women to men who have a bare living room with just a sofa, a TV and a work desk in the corner and nothing else.
	Look, it works just fine.
	The number of times I've had to justify myself.
	But that's the thing, it works.
	Again, it's the focus on the utility of the thing, whereas women are thinking about the spirit of the thing.
	Yes.
	I remember justifying my flat.
	It's just, like, white walls, some guitars, and my PC, and then the bedroom, and that's it.
	And I was just like, it's zen.
	There's not clutter.
	It keeps my mind at ease.
	I'm peaceful.
	It's organised.
	And everything really does exactly what I want it to do.
	So what more do you want?
	See, for me, that kind of space just gives, like, gaping abyss vibes, and it puts me on edge.
	LAUGHTER I need some doilies in here.
	I've put up some decorations now.
	I've met in the middle.
	It takes a man about five years to put one picture on the wall, doesn't it?
	I think I'm settled enough now to put one sentimental thing out.
	Yeah, there's a picture of Trump.
	Fight.
	Roman Observer says, Hi from your Italian bankroller.
	The amount of horror you poured in 15 minutes of segments is much more than anything we get to see on the mainstream news.
	I've forced myself to watch them.
	The stats exist, but they never go under silence or a turnaround to make Italian men look bad, but it's almost never talked about foreign crime.
	Well, there's surely got to be a point where they just can't keep a lid on it.
	Like, if you're 6,000 nearly rapes a year, Jesus Christ.
	Well, it's going to get to the point where everyone knows someone.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, 20 women raped a day.
	How can you not?
	Yeah.
	You know?
	And again, from Roman Observer, much of what the Italian government is trying to do, at least about illegal immigration, is openly opposed by far-left judges.
	I'll try and contain my surprise.
	When has this ever happened before?
	Don't worry, it's the same everywhere, mate.
	It's the same everywhere.
	And our judges are just as bad.
	Judges in Italy are unaccountable and very political, just like ours, and have been operating against Italian interests for at least 30 years, just like ours.
	Whether by using international law or EU regulations, which we're still subject to, like the ECHR. The ECHR isn't actually an EU institution.
	We just agree to it.
	Yeah, it's separate, isn't it?
	I really want one of these judges to come out and say, please stop criticising me, and then I've got the line prepared of judge not lest ye be judged.
	And none of them have done it.
	Well, they probably are like, no, I know what they'll say.
	I know what they'll say.
	Charlie says, I think the best thing that Farage can do while he's an MP is make migration a women's safety issue.
	Love to see how Labour would stand against it.
	Mary Harrington's talking about that.
	Yeah, and it's a fair point.
	Yeah, I think I'm going to write an essay to that point soon.
	It's a totally fair point, but I don't really have great hopes for what Farage is doing.
	I don't think I'm quite as hardline on Farage as California Refugee, which was probably the hardest line I've ever seen on Farage.
	I agree with that.
	But he definitely raises some points.
	Even on election night, I was just like, I don't know about reform, to be honest.
	Well, this is why Ben Habib's just left.
	That's true, yeah.
	I'm for re-migration.
	I'm looking forward to seeing what he says next.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's all the dumb leftists in the comments under such articles, you know, with, well, you'll be first to go, and it's like, no idea.
	No.
	Ben Habib, incidentally, is coming on Monday's podcast, so tune in, and that'll be interesting.
	Lord Nerevan says, I have Italian friends and speak Italian myself, and trying to introduce friends in the UK to the overwhelming disappointment that is Georgia Maloney is a gargantuan task.
	Just be like, look, she's like Boris.
	She's just like Boris.
	That is, yeah.
	Yeah, well, in fact, he says, I would describe her as Italy's Boris Johnson at this point, but there we go.
	Great minds.
	I mean, to be fair to her, they are contending with the same issue that we have, which is the bureaucratic state is so gargantuan.
	You can go in there with the best intentions in the world, but they will subvert you from every direction.
	Which is basically what he carries on.
	Drain the swamp!
	Yeah, you've got to take the chainsaw to it.
	Yeah, but as I said, she was supposed to be Italy's Trump man.
	Well, I am sorry to hear it, but again, they deliberately set up the quangocracy to prevent people like Trump from coming in and doing things.
	So we've got to fight through the sort of gossamer chains of it, I'm afraid, until the very end.
	I've never heard quangocracy before.
	That's a really good word.
	It sounds like an alien race, which is perfect.
	Yes, bureaucrats.
	Aliens, otherwise.
	Anyway, thank you so much for joining us.
	Charlie, where can people go to find more of you?
	So you can find me on Twitter, being rude to anyone and everyone, which is Aster underscore Charlie, and you can find me on Substack, Charlie Bentley Aster.
	Well, thank you so much for coming in.
	And we will be back tomorrow, folks.
	And it's Calvin's Common Sense Crusade in half an hour as well.
	It's a very good one as well.
	Oh, is it?
	I haven't seen it.
	The guest is a meme legend.
	I'm not going to spoil it because I spoiled it.
	Oh, no, I do know who it is.
	Right, yes.

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