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Nov. 1, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1035
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Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen.
Well done.
You made it to Friday.
Best day of the week.
Isn't that superb?
I'm joined by Harry and Stelios, and today we're going to be talking about Jeremy Clarkson's What Tyler-esque Peasants Revolt, hopefully.
Fingers crossed.
We'll see.
Why Donald Trump is able to connect people, and how the Irish government has...
Join the rest of the governments in the West of hating their own people.
Which is wonderful.
I actually couldn't remember what the date was today.
It's the 1st of November.
The beginning of winter.
You've got to remember what next Tuesday is.
Oh, well, that's the election.
Yes, but also, what else is it?
I'm fine now.
There you go.
But it's the election first, because that's our job.
Anyway, no particular announcements today.
I just hope you're doing very well.
Is the merchandise still on the website?
It is until the election stream.
There you go.
Buy merchandise.
That's a good piece of advice from Harry.
But right, let's talk about Jeremy Clarkson's revolt.
Well, before I get to Jeremy Clarkson, let's give a little round-up, because we had the announcement of the budget on Wednesday.
Yep.
It's been two days, so a nice short-term review is in order, I think.
So we've got the results in.
It's a disaster.
A complete and utter disaster.
What a surprise.
The communist budget that has been put in, which means that all taxes are going up, other than those discounts that you were getting on some taxes that are going down, so you'll have to pay more.
It means that nobody's really going to be better off for it at all, except for maybe if you're working in the public sector.
So, as I understand it, they are raising taxes by £40 billion, but also borrowing another £32 billion.
Is that correct?
Yes.
And there's a £22 billion black hole.
Yes, and also they're changing things around on spreadsheets and in government documents so that all of the people who are currently in the asylum system who are costing X amount of money are going to be shifted around into a different spreadsheet where they won't technically be costing us that much money, but they will in reality be costing us 17 billion pence.
Well, there's an interest rate.
When you borrow, you have to give more back.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
But I'm just looking at this.
I wrote 22 billion down.
Yeah.
So we're raising it by a 50 extra billion.
It's like, right.
Makes sense to me.
And let's see the results of that.
Well, first of all, Conor's actually done some pretty good work on this so far.
Actually, no.
using some work that was done by Guido Fawkes reporting on this after Labour Chancellor Rachel Reeves budget yesterday the cost of government borrowing 300 billion pounds this year has increased Bank of England 10 year guilt rates have risen to 4.41% yield that's 0.3% higher than Liz Truss's mini budget peak of 4.38% Reeves has put the highest tax burden on British workers since records began in 1948 so here's the dichotomy
When communists in government do it, everything's fine, carry on as normal, you can crash the pound.
As has happened, sharp as fall for 18 months, crash the pound, everything's fine, Bank of England shrugs their shoulders, goes lovely, all in a day's work.
Liz Truss tries to reduce tax rates, artificial economic crashes engineered the day before the announcement by selling off billions of pounds worth of gilts.
Then you get kicked out of government.
Yeah.
That's, I mean, that's literally what we're watching because it is essentially a kind of, I mean, it's the sort of budget that the, the sort of person who put up a picture of the communist, the founder of the Communist Party of Great Britain on their wall, which is what Rachel Rees did.
It's the kind of budget you'd expect from that kind of person.
And it really is just, well, the socialist did it, therefore it's fine.
The libertarian does it, no, she's got to go.
It's because it's not surprising.
I think Lenin was who said that to destroy society, you need to destroy its currency.
Well, that's true, but if you're saying it's surprising, Liz Trust made everybody aware well in advance that, by the way, I'm going to be reducing taxes, and that's what the Conservative membership voted for.
It sounded good.
It was good.
It was only a very minor decrease in taxes as well, but that was too much for the economy to bear.
And if you wanted to learn about more...
Sorry, just, again, the way...
And you're just framing it in the way that they frame it, you know.
It's like, oh, the economy can't bear tax cuts.
It's like...
What's that even mean?
The economy?
I have to continue giving more money to the government or else some mystical entity called the economy suffers.
You know what?
I hate the economy.
I hate it.
It's my money.
I was reading something talking about Donald Trump a moment ago, talking about his tariff policies.
And the way that it was framed by, you know, regime outlets was that they are market distorting tariffs.
That's what a tariff is, yeah.
Rather than being a part of normal monetary policy and international geopolitical policy, it was assumed in this paradigm that the economy is at a sort of floating abstract equilibrium Until a tariff gets put in, at which point it becomes distorted and nobody can understand anything.
Which just goes to show the incompetence of the people who are supposedly handling the management of the economy.
It also goes to show the sort of myopic view they have.
There is one way to run an economy, and it's high tax, high spend, high regulation.
That's it.
But also free trade.
Open borders, free trade.
Infinite open borders.
Yeah, exactly.
So slave labour camps in China or wherever, they can import their undercutting goods into our market and there's just nothing you can do about it, bro.
Well, if you were to have a conversation with a member of the Treasury Department right now, I would imagine the conversation would go like this.
They would say to you, well, we need to keep raising taxes and eventually when we've raised the taxes enough, the economy will be fixed.
And you turn around and you respond to them, you've been raising taxes for a hundred years and the economy has only got worse.
And they respond to you, well, we're working out the kinks, but...
Ideally, the plan is flawless.
You know, I think that's a very charitable interpretation of what they would say.
Because I was thinking, hmm, I think they'd probably say, yeah, no, the economy will be fixed when you pay 100% of your money to us in taxes.
That's when the economy will be fixed.
And we'll just give you whatever we want you to have.
And then the public sector can give themselves more gold-plated pensions that don't get affected by it.
Yes.
But regarding what happened to Liz Truss's government, if you want the insider scoop on that, you can actually watch Tomlinson Talk's most recent, well, one of the more recent episodes, How to Bring Down a Government, where Conor goes over, in great detail, all of the duplicitous, dishonest, treacherous, treasonous stab in the back methods that were used by the OBR and the Bank of England and other economic institutions in the UK to bring down Liz Truss for having the gall to put forward a minor tax cut
but the thing is though it really is that the Bank of England removed a prime minister because they didn't like that she was going to lower taxes slightly so that is that is unbelievable really yes but with the new budget one of the biggest controversies that has come from it has been the way it's going to be affecting farmers.
Because one of the big changes to it, as explained by this Guardian article, is that they are removing the agricultural property relief, or at least changing it.
So previously, the agricultural property relief meant that all farm and agricultural assets were exempt from inheritance tax.
Oh, that's sensible.
It was very sensible because farming is a family business.
Oftentimes these farms were passed down from generation to generation in families.
And if all of a sudden you turned to them and said, well, your property is worth X amount of money, and if you pass it down to your next generation or family member, we're just going to take a significant percentage of that because there's no real practical reason for being able to explain how or why.
You just do it because you want it.
That could destroy these farms.
I think with farmers it's more than that because I think the government really hates the farmers because farming requires some minimum long-term skills and thinking and business planning and the government can have this because it creates a mentality of saving.
You need to do savings and then invest rather than just spend fast.
And the government has an incentive to habituate people to think only in the short term.
And link their survival with government handouts.
Well, that's the point.
These people are independent of the state.
The state is actually just a barrier to the success of the farmers.
They form, in a way, a separate power base.
They absolutely do.
Because not only are they independent, oftentimes the governments, given that they need to eat as well, something that they always forget, they rely on them as well.
But you become dependent.
Sorry, I forgot.
Waitress, Magixit, or Star Trek.
There's the element of becoming more food-dependent upon foreign producers.
Therefore the government can tell you, well, I don't have as much negotiation of power because they give us the food.
Stelis is right.
I think what they're doing here is trying to deliberately lock us into the global food economy even more.
But this really does just have echoes of Lenin persecuting the Kulaks, right?
Well, and Stalin's deliberate attack on the Ukrainian farmers, yes.
Oh, Stalin was it, sorry, right?
I mean, Lenin did it as well.
Yeah, I thought they both did it.
But the point is, this is the stigmatisation of the land-holding peasant as being some sort of wealthy bourgeois man.
It's like, well, I mean, you know, they own a small farm and they farm a small farm.
But that's property that's held outside of the state, and the state wants it.
As I understand it then, so if you die, you give your farm to your son, and so you've not generated any extra money, you haven't sold anything, and suddenly the government's going to give you this giant bill.
Yes.
So previously, again, it was exempt from inheritance tax altogether.
But from April 2026, the first £1 million of the value of agricultural properties will be exempt from inheritance tax.
But above that threshold, the combined relief available from APR and business property relief will drop to 50% of the standard 40% of inheritance tax.
This means that inheritance tax of 20% will effectively apply to the full value of farms and rural estates above £1 million.
So, say in the example that we're going to find in a moment, that your farm is overall worth about £3.5 million.
As far as I can understand it, that means that above that £1 million, £2.5 million, you've got to pay 20% inheritance tax, passing it down to your family member once you've passed away.
So the £200,000, £250,000, something like that?
£500,000.
If it was £2.5 million, 10%, £250,000, then £500,000.
Is it 20% to the whole amount of inheritance, or is it from the inheritance that...
On the full value of farms and rural estates.
So, this is even more of a kick in the teeth to farmers because Steve Reid, the Environment Secretary, had promised in the lead up to the election that Labour had no intention of fiddling with this tax loophole, which was designed explicitly to protect family farms.
So again, as Carla said, in this situation where you've got a £3.5 million farm, that's in terms of the overall value of the assets.
You've not sold anything so that you can actually claim that money.
You're just passing it down to your family member.
The government comes in and says that's going to be £500,000.
Thank you very much.
I mean, how do you see it as anything other than an attack on...
And again, these aren't...
3.5 million sounds like a lot, but about a million pounds worth of farmland is about 20 square foot.
I'm exaggerating.
It's not gargantuan.
Something like an acre of farmland is worth, I don't know exactly how much, it might be £10,000 or £100,000.
So small farms can still very, very quickly add up to that value of £1 million.
Then you add in all of the equipment that you use to farm the land, then the house that you live in as well.
Because I watch Clarkson's Farm, I know those bloody tractors are expensive.
Yeah, and you know from Clarkson's Farm as well that the costs don't cease once you've got the equipment.
The costs carry on constantly, and it's in fact actually a very, very low-profit business to be running.
Most people in family farms run those family farms because they have been passed down to them over the course of six, seven, eight generations.
It's not something many people would willingly go into, as again shown by Jeremy Clarkson.
I think at the end of the first series, when he gets his yearly return at the end of the first series, isn't he about £20 in the hole?
Yeah, he didn't make any money.
Didn't make any money from it.
And that's just from basic subsistence.
And he's rich, so he can absorb those costs.
Normal farmers don't have that luxury.
When he was sat down in Chipping Norton with the other farmers around, you could see the look on their faces.
Like, this was not something that was going well, evidently.
It was miserable, like thunder.
Incredibly high effort, a lot of work, and high stress as well.
So after the week's budget, the National Farmers Union president, Tom Bradshaw, said, Before the elections, Keir Starmer promised to establish a new relationship with farming in the countryside.
Well, he's certainly done that.
LAUGHTER When you look farmers in the eye and make them a promise, keep it.
So, for an idea of the scale of this, as of 2023, the UK had about 209,000 farms.
Though the £1 million threshold sounds like it will only apply to the wealthy, the Country Land and Business Association has estimated it will apply to 70,000 farms, which is one-third.
Jesus, the farms in this country are going to get screwed by the Labour government.
Are we surprised?
No.
No.
Farmers also, as they point out here, tend to be asset rich and cash poor.
Farming is not a popular vocation due to the often low pay, difficult work, and increasingly risk of having entire crops ruined by extreme weather.
Again, as we saw in the first series of Clarkson's Farm, when a week or two of very heavy rainfall was enough to almost completely destroy an entire crop that had been planted.
Farmers argue that if they cannot afford to pass their business down to relatives, the family farm will die out.
So there's two answers, as we've suggested, for why they're doing this.
The first answer is, in typical communist fashion, they don't understand how the economics works, they don't understand how farming works, and they don't care to.
They hate the farmers.
So they've just done it because they don't understand what the consequences are being.
The more Machiavellian answer is that this could be a ploy to force family farms when the patriarch dies to have to sell off assets to their farm to afford the inheritance tax cost and then more and more assets of the properties will fall into government hands where they could potentially collectivise them or sell them off to big business.
Blackrock Farms.
Yes.
It's an attack on the kulaks, as you'd imagine.
Bradshaw continued and said, Now, the Guardian, typical fashion, are the farmers right to be angry?
Well, thankfully, the Guardian has asked a tax expert, Dan Needle, who said that the tax won't apply to 73% of farmers.
Okay.
But it will apply to one-third of farms.
Yeah.
So I don't know if I trust a tax expert over the people who actually collect this information, the Country Land and Business Association.
Okay, but...
I think that a quarter of farmers more than are going to be affected by this.
It may be a bad policy, but it won't affect as many people as you think.
He also recommended those over the threshold buy life insurance to cover the payment of inheritance tax, so that's basically an extra tax being funneled to these insurance companies, who I'm sure are going to make a killing from it.
Reeves defended her decision, telling LBC, at the moment, you can have some of the wealthiest landowners, not farmers, but wealthy landowners in this country, who pay no inheritance tax whatsoever, while middle-class families do.
That's not right, and that's why we've closed that loophole.
The opposite way, the complete wrong way.
I hate inheritance tax.
I don't stand to inherit anything, by the way.
I have absolutely no skin in the game.
I'm not going to inherit a damn thing.
But, like, the very concept of inheritance tax infuriates me.
It's like, we've taxed you, we've taxed you, we've taxed you.
You've saved up a few pennies, and then you die, and then we're going to get that too.
We're going to penalise you for thanking your kids.
Exactly.
Because, remember, the allowance is what means that it's as low as 20%.
The standard rate of inheritance tax is 40%.
So, potentially, almost half of the savings that you've acquired, and your assets as well, over your lifetime, your family, when you die, if you're passing that down and it hits a particular threshold, is going to have to pay up to 40%.
Remember, you slave away like this now, so Abdul can live in a free bloody hotel forever, okay?
If you don't slave away and give all that money to the government, then he's just got to go back to wherever he came from.
Mm-hmm.
But wait!
It gets better.
It gets better.
Happy Friday, everyone.
Moving on here.
Oh, well, I'll read what I've got on here.
Compounding the news on higher taxes, the double whammy on spending, that spending on farmers is set to decline.
DEFRA, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, is a loser in the spending ground as one of the seven Whitehall departments who will experience a drop in real terms expenditure next year.
This is despite successive cuts in the department's Well, do you not remember that during the COVID lockdown, the price of fertiliser rocketed?
I mean, that's going to be a large part of that, I imagine.
DEFRA Secretary Steve Reid's line is that farmers will have to learn to do more with less.
I mean, when you have inflation to such an extent and energy prices go up and everything goes up, you want to have an independent food industry.
That's only if you don't hate the people you're governing over, and you don't want them to starve to death.
Apparently.
I mean, you make that assumption, but as we're going to cover in your show.
Yeah, I assume rationality and goodwill.
Yes, you did.
For some reason.
I don't know why.
In this circumstance, that's a very irrational thing to do.
It's a Labour government.
They're looking at the country and being like, right, this is full of people that we hate, they're all far right, how can we punish them?
This is a way of punishing them.
So of course, in the fallout of this, there's been a lot of testimonies of the difficulties that the farmers are going to be experiencing from April 2026.
The fact that already just the news of the announcement has been putting pressure on a lot of these farmers to try and get their affairs and finances in order because they don't know how they're going to be able to manage this.
But guess who's jumping to the rescue for the government?
Who's going to take the bullet?
Your friend.
My friend.
A favourite of mine.
Friend of the show.
James O'Brien is here to let farmers know that actually you deserve it.
James O'Brien, friend of the working man.
So recently...
I've been reading through his book, How To Be Right.
A very humble and modest title.
He goes to great lengths in that book.
Paragraphs and pages and pages are spent.
Him trying to rationalise to himself, I'm a good person.
I don't think the evil right-wing Brexiteers are evil.
I am a friend of the working man.
So when presented with Akulak, Enemy of the State, let's hear how he discusses the strains that this is going to put on farmers.
Whatever it takes me is that the money that we would have to pay if the situation arises is going into the public sector.
I was in a surgery yesterday.
I go to see a consultant three times a year.
Three times a year.
No, it's okay, James.
There are two consultants, six nurses and a receptionist.
One consultant yesterday, six nurses and a receptionist.
Done it for seven years.
Six nurses, one receptionist.
But they only need two nurses, James.
I've done that for seven years.
OK. I don't know if many people listening to this will think that we've got too many nurses in the NHS, Steve.
James, there is a...
James!
Steve, I'm listening to you.
A nurse administrator came to me at the weekend...
A hospital administrator on 60,000 a year.
Right.
She's retiring at 55 in two years' time.
She's taking home a £100,000 golden handshake.
Yeah.
£25,000.
This is the politics of envy, isn't it, Steve?
No, it isn't, James.
We'd like some levelling, please.
You could level people up.
Okay.
So how much is your estate worth again?
£3.5 million?
I'll have to sell it to get that, James.
And how much is she getting again?
What's her golden handshake again?
Every year...
Sorry, are we just flipping into the politics of envy also?
What's your estate worth again?
But her pension, her payoff is a reward for all the work that she's done over the years.
And what's your estate worth again as a reward for all the work you've done over the years?
I haven't sold it James.
I've got family to pass it down to keep producing food.
Which is why you've got 35 times more than she has.
That's the way the system is structured.
In the private sector, the rewards are much higher.
But to end up resenting the rewards that a nurse administrator gets in the public sector is not a great look, mate.
Can we start?
This is one of my favourite of his debate tactics, which I call tactical libertarianism.
Tactically, I'm a rabid capitalist.
You're receiving the rewards for your private investment, friend.
Sorry.
Politics of envy.
Notice that he is a mouthpiece for the regime.
He represents the prevailing attitude of Whitehall, which is, even though the farmer is protesting and saying, actually, I don't have all of that 3.5 million pounds, I would need to sell everything I own to be able to get that...
He turns around and says, well, actually, you do have that because you do have the assets.
Also, and then he turns and says, well, I need to pass it on to my family so we can continue producing food.
Doesn't even pay any mind to it.
Harry, I think what he says is if you have money and you're in the private sector, you shouldn't speak.
What I really think he means is that piss off.
What he means is, you deserve this.
You deserve punishment.
You deserve to be made to suffer.
And this is sadly quite a popular sentiment that I've seen shared about by people, saying that, well, these people have more than me nominally, because technically all of their assets put together means that they have a lot of money, that they can't access.
It'd be like saying, well, you've got loads of gold, but it's buried in Egypt somewhere.
Okay, well I can't get to it, so what does that do for me?
But people really have no understanding of farming in this country.
But thankfully the people who do, the farmers, might be doing a protest, and this might turn into a Dutch farmers situation.
Great.
Which, this government deserves it.
I want, with the recent news of Axel Rudakabana, and now this, along with everything else that this government has done, gaslighting, lying to the public, withholding information, trying to financially ruin us, all of these different things.
I need there to be a situation that will peacefully and civically force this government to step down, resign, and hand themselves in for treason charges.
And that is...
I was going to say, protest is completely legitimate within the democratic system.
Exactly.
So the farmers' protests are brewing.
One protest organiser has told Guido Forks, we haven't seen this kind of anger among farmers since the Countryside March back in 2002, where 400,000 people committed to rural protests.
Alongside an expected massive petition, there are likely to be organised marches.
One Incense farmer said, I look forward to bringing my tractor and other agricultural machinery to Whitehall and maybe also to Labour's conference in Liverpool next year.
If Labour wants to close down family farming, we'll close down Labour first.
They have lied through their teeth about supporting farmers and deserve to be held to account.
Rural sources also say if farmers and the public get their act together, we should expect to see buckets full of getting dumped on Parliament before too long.
Very French.
Very, very.
And also the update at the bottom of here says the National Farmers Union is organising a rally in Westminster for Tuesday the 19th of November.
So hopefully this will put some kind of pressure on the government because there are also reports already coming from Downing Street saying that Keir Starmer wants to resign.
Good.
Do it.
Brilliant.
Do it.
It'll be the most popular decision that you've made since assuming prime ministership.
And who's going to lead these marches while I have a nomination?
That being Chairman Clarkson.
I agree.
Chairman Clarkson, the long march from Chipping Norton and the revolution will be televised.
This would be glorious because Clarkson...
Season 4 of Clarkson's Farm is going to be banging.
It will.
Absolutely banging.
Could you imagine if that's what it turns into?
Jeremy Clarkson at the front lines, standing up to the government, overthrowing Keir Starmer.
You know, Amazon, I think you've got a winner with that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he's made statements saying, Farmers, I know that you've been shafted.
Please don't despair.
Look after yourselves for five short years and this shower will be gone.
But the fact is, as you point out in the replies there, what if they can't last five years?
And the thing is that a lot of other people are saying, Lead them!
Lead them!
Take up the sword, Jeremy!
The crown of England is in the gutter!
And only one man can assume it.
And the fact is, Jeremy, in big movements like this, they need elite leaders at the top.
And you have been a farmer now for a good few years.
About decades he's been a farmer.
Yeah, you are the face of British farming.
You have brought more attention to the difficulties of British farming than anybody else that I can think of over the past few decades.
You are in the prime position to actually do something practical and useful.
About this.
You are in the right position.
Every Englishman watches Clarkson's Farm.
And every Englishman wants you to do the right thing that we know that you're capable of.
So this is a public call to Jeremy Clarkson to assume stewardship of the United Kingdom.
I am not entirely joking.
I'm just saying that things could be a lot worse than Jeremy Clarkson doing it.
But anyway, Keith says, I can't help but think that Stelios is a Lib Dem voter because of the tie.
I was going to say, I actually like the colour tie you've got, but it does kind of make people think that you support the Lib Dems.
Why?
Because that's their colour.
Does that mean that Harry supports the Labour?
Well, with the black shirt.
Yeah, but it's...
We're talking about a tie.
We're talking about a tie.
I'm not giving out Moseley vibes.
Pisa says, Post on Exeter today describing family trauma when the father committed suicide to beat the farm inheritance tax.
Ah, Jesus Christ.
I did see that, but I didn't want to include it because there's no way for me to verify it.
Mark says, I know a lot of asset-rich cash poor farmers, which barely make it on margins, which are already tiny.
The ones that rent land will have their rent just raised.
We will see a great loss.
Yeah, this is just crazy.
The tax won't apply to 73% of the farmers yet.
Yeah, and that's another thing as well.
It's like, look, you know, they're just burning.
It's just the mafia turning up at your neighbor's shop.
It's not your shop.
It's not a problem.
It's like, well, I mean, I don't really want to live in a mafia estate, actually.
I don't want the mafia getting my neighbours and not getting, you know, even if they're not getting me.
The mafia would probably run this country better than the government right now.
Oh, it's insufferable, isn't it?
Russian says, watch the commies give away farmland to diverse groups.
That's another factor.
We need to increase diversity in the countryside.
In farming.
You can get straight off of the dinghy and get given a countryside estate with a plot of land to start tilling.
With friends like James O'Gammon, who needs enemies?
Well, again, I keep calling him Woke Prothero, because he really does remind me of a woke version of Prothero.
You're right there, Stelios.
There's something ticking.
No, I'm listening.
I just...
What?
I'm listening to what you're saying.
Is it so weird that I'm laughing with words?
The thing is...
When I don't see anything that should have caused you to laugh so much...
He's got the same energy, anyway.
I'm very suspicious of you sometimes, Stelios.
Matt says, Jeremy Clarkson for Prime Minister for Reform.
Nigel Farage, Liz Truss and other VET candidates for the next election.
Amazon's next series of Clarkson's Country follows his campaign.
Clarkson's Country.
Clarkson's Kingdom.
That's Series 4.
What I'm saying is that it literally could be the next series is him.
I mean, he can't not go on the protest, right?
He can't not support the protest.
He should be front and centre.
On a stage leading the protest.
So yeah, that would be excellent.
Clarkson's come round on a lot of things recently.
He spoke up about the Southport stabbings, he's spoken up about how he was mistaken and kind of in a little cosmopolitan bubble at Brexit.
He says now that he completely understands why people voted for Brexit.
He's come round on many things.
He's just a regular Englishman, that's the thing.
And so he's arriving at the normal English perspectives.
But anyway, so let's move on.
I want to talk about why...
Donald Trump's cosplays as a McDonald's worker and a garbage man work so well.
They really resonate.
Because people don't seem to understand that, like, I see a lot of left-wingers on Twitter being like, oh, well, it's just a stunt, bro.
It's just a stunt.
It's like...
Oh, I know.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Donald Trump is not actually working at McDonald's.
Shocking.
Thank you for the news.
I will change my vote.
Before then, I thought that this was just a really bad turn of look for him.
Strange career choice, but who am I to judge, right?
And Kamala Harris has never read from a teleprompter.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I thought we'd talk about this, because a recent chain of unforced errors has occurred for this to come up again, so Donald Trump can point out that he is, in fact, a friend of the working man.
And that's a huge part of his appeal.
So, the other day, Donald Trump was doing a rally.
What was he actually doing here?
I actually know what he was doing.
I can't remember what it was.
Where bloody was he?
It was just a rally, right.
It was a really big rally for some reason.
I can't remember why this rally was bigger than other rallies.
But anyway, so he had a comedian called Tony Hinchcliffe on the stage.
Now, this comedian is well known for his roasts.
He does a show called Kill Tony.
I keep seeing shorts show up of it on YouTube where he's had a guy who does a really great Donald Trump impression.
Yep.
Very funny.
Yep, and so Trump obviously thought, right, he's a funny guy, I'll get him on.
And he was doing a bit of a comedy skit to the rally, and he said, he made a joke, right?
Now, I realise that this is going to sound unusual to any progressives who have stumbled onto this video and are like, a comedian making a joke at a political rally?
This is unheard of.
Well, maybe, but this is a first for everything.
And he said, there's a lot going on.
I don't know if you know, there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now.
I think it's called Puerto Rico.
Ha ha ha.
It's a funny joke.
Yeah.
He delivered it a bit better than you.
Yeah, I know, but it's a joke.
Okay, now what?
And the funny thing about this is, actually, Puerto Rico does have a massive problem with rubbish.
A massive problem.
Apparently, its trash problem has been growing for decades.
It's got a population of 3.2 million, but the island generates about 3.7 million tons of waste yearly, so each person is producing more than a ton of waste.
It's So they're outnumbered quite significantly by general turnage.
We need to have waste per capita statistics.
Well, yeah.
And the thing is, there's no recycling infrastructure.
The island's landfills are full to overflowing.
It's actually a real problem on Puerto Rico, which I assume is what the comedian was talking about.
This caused a backlash, right?
People were like, oh my god, Donald Trump has called Puerto Rico garbage.
Now, he didn't.
It was someone at his campaign event, which you could say, okay, maybe he endorses it, okay, maybe because he was there.
Of course, Trump said, no, I don't agree with that, blah, blah, blah.
Who cares?
It was a funny joke.
Exactly.
It's a funny joke.
It doesn't matter.
But...
Kamala Harris' campaign has been tanking.
And everyone knows it's been tanking.
And suddenly they're like, God, yes, I'm grabbing this straw.
And by God, am I going to leverage it?
This goes on the camel's back with the rest of them, right?
I mean, they did the worst strategy.
Yeah, I know.
They're terrible.
And Trump just keeps racking up wins.
So this for them is great.
They were like, brilliant.
Trump, we've got him now.
He's finally screwed up now.
We've got Trump.
And so Biden, who's still the president, by the way, for anyone who wasn't aware, You'd forget, wouldn't you?
You absolutely would.
Remind you every so often.
Yeah.
It was going quite well, the attacks on the Trump campaign, because, I mean, like, what are they going to say?
Like, well, you know, it's just a joke, bro.
But Biden decided to really step his foot in it and say that, yeah, you know what?
They're good, decent and honourable people.
Referring to the Puerto Ricans.
The only garbage I see out there is his supporters.
Oh.
So we are allowed to call people garbage.
It's just you're in favor of the Puerto Ricans and not in favor of the Trump supporters.
Right.
And essentially he frames it as if he thinks that Trump said it.
And I saw many, many videos of people being like, Trump called Puerto Rican garbage.
No, he didn't.
But don't worry, it doesn't matter, right?
But this then puts the entire Harris campaign on the back foot.
Because she has to come out and essentially denounce President Biden, again, I emphasize that he is still the president, for basically getting in the way, puts her very much on the back foot.
She, quote, strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for.
No, she didn't.
No, no, that was her quote.
Not really, though.
No, no, obviously not.
Obviously not.
But they've obviously learned from Hillary Clinton's basket of deplorables that you can't just call all Trump supporters garbage and expect that then they're going to come over to the Democrats.
That doesn't work.
Shaming the electorate is actually not a good strategy.
She's been going with the negging strategy.
It keeps failing.
The joy of shaming.
We're a campaign of joy.
But this is great, because suddenly, the Trump campaign, they thought they had a real good, hard line of attack on him, based Biden comes out and says something really stupid, and suddenly...
I miss him.
I miss Biden so much.
I know, I wish he'd come forward a bit more.
And then suddenly, the Kamala campaign, the energy's collapsing, and suddenly they're on the back foot, oh, no, no, no, no, we're not attacking the American people, honestly.
And it's like, yeah, you are.
And Biden has to come out and clarify, be like, oh, no, I didn't mean that...
I didn't mean the exact words that I said.
I meant something else, I swear.
That's literally what their excuse was.
So the White House published a transcript of what he was supposed to have said, which included an apostrophe.
When it says supporters, support apostrophe S. So the support being the person on the stage is a supporter of Trump.
So what you had to do as he was speaking, you had to visualize the apostrophes in your mind as you went through.
It's a very subtle apostrophe there that Biden just missed.
And trust us, bro, that's what he meant.
He wasn't demonising Trump supporters.
Does he say they're the only ones who are environmentally conscious?
They're the only ones who are throwing garbage?
No, he doesn't say that.
But he meant that it was Trump himself and the people on the stage who were garbage.
Which is not a very persuasive walk back.
And then Biden also said, by the looks of what you got here, I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico as garbage.
No, you didn't.
No, you didn't.
You called the people garbage.
He was angry.
He came out and was like, Trump supporters are garbage.
I hate them.
I hate them all.
Hopefully they get chucked into the sea or something.
Also, you expect me to believe that Joe Biden can still read a transcript or a teleprompter?
I think this has just been written after the fact.
I think that Biden was just kind of speaking without that.
But anyway, either way, this attack on Trump didn't work because, of course, they screwed it up.
And Trump decided to sort of push the advantage by turning up in a garbage truck, a rubbish truck, as a British person might say.
There's so many great photos from this campaign.
It is.
As you can see, Trump gets up in there and he's just like, yeah, Kamala sucks.
We're leading in every state.
We're leading big.
And I think that the comment made by really both of them, because there are really two of them, about being garbage, maybe 250 million people, they shouldn't be talking.
That's like deplorable for Hillary.
This is the deplorable for Hillary.
And I think this is worse, actually.
For Joe Biden to make that statement, it's really a disgrace.
Yep, I mean, you shouldn't have done it.
It was really stupid.
And so, this was, you know, nice as normal.
And, of course, he was up on stage at his rally, explaining, wearing the high-vis jacket...
Now, that would never happen for the Democrats.
They would never wear a garbage man's high-vis jacket at a campaign rally like this.
It's actually kind of incredible.
I hope future historians, in a thousand years' time, dig up the ruins of our civilization and find an SSD card or something, and this video is the thing that's on it, and they're just like, the hell is happening?
What is going on?
It's one of those just snapshots from this current time period that if you took out of context, no one would be able to understand it.
I mean, Trump's, you know, making a joke about it.
He's like, well, you know, I wasn't going to wear it, but they said it would look thinner, so I wore it.
You know, it's just, you know, downplayed, very funny, right?
And the left was going crazy about this, as you can imagine.
They were like, my God, it was just a stunt.
Donald Trump is not actually a garbage man.
Oh, really?
Donald Trump's not a McDonald's manager.
He's not a garbage man.
What else are you stupid MAGA-chuds gonna fall for next time?
And this article is just summarizing a lot of Twitter chatter about this subject.
It's really funny.
But then you had, you know, people like...
Brett Favreau, who's a former quarterback for the Green Bay Packers NFL team, who says, look, I can assure you we're not garbage.
How dare you say that?
Looking out, I see police officers, teachers, nurses, grandparents, students.
I see everyday Americans who make this country great.
And what is Trump signaling when he wears this?
He is signaling that he respects everyday Americans, right?
This is why the Democrats could never do this.
And again, leftist media, which I'm going to get You guys seem desperate.
You guys seem angry, and it seems like you know you're losing.
I mean, this...
I'm not going to go into this.
I've seen this woman's articles before and they all come across like they're just seething resentment and anger.
It's not even the mask over the crying face.
It's just the crying face.
But yeah, anyway, so like...
She's going on whining about this, and Vivek Ramaswamy did something similar, and she's whining about that too.
And it's just like, okay, but don't you understand why people like this?
Don't you understand why they did this?
I mean, she just calls it, well, they thought it was a clever stunt, but it was stupid.
And it's like, okay, but why?
Why was it stupid?
Playground insults.
No, no, that's literally where they've arrived at.
And there were lots of people who were making great points, like, I don't know who Eric here is, but I enjoyed his take.
He says,"...it doesn't matter that these are staged.
What matters is that no Democrat politician of this generation would look even remotely plausible wearing a safety vest and driving a truck, and everyone knows it.
And Trump's invitation to his audience to be in on the joke as he smirks about it confirms to everyone that everyone knows that this is the case." And that's completely true.
This was actually a great article where they had to admit that Trump had actually done quite a good job as a McDonald's chef.
I saw the clips.
It was remarkable that the guy showing him how to use the fry cooker seemed to have no nervousness about him at all.
He was just another day teaching Donald Trump how to make fries.
And he's doing a pretty good job.
And Trump was so thrilled that nobody ever touches the fries before you get them as well.
Well, he's a famous germaphobe, isn't he?
Well, yeah.
So yeah, anyway, it's this sort of thing.
So what is Trump showing us with this?
Well, I pointed out on Twitter, look, what he's showing, he's not afraid of symbolically shedding his own status and becoming symbolically or temporarily one of the common people because he views them intrinsically as honourable, decent and worthy.
This is the opposite to how he views the liberal elite.
He views the liberal elite as being perverse, corrupt, and cruel.
He doesn't like them.
They've been horrible to him, whereas regular people have been wonderful to him.
So he's happy to take on their trappings and say, no, look, I'm happy to be seen as one of you.
I'm happy to dress in what the Democrats would condescend as a low-status piece of garb.
I'm happy to be pictured in the McDonald's, in the bloody thing, with the...
In the apron.
Apron, yeah, that's it.
I don't wear aprons.
In the apron, handing out fries.
I'm happy for this.
They would balk at this.
They'd be like, oh God, that is so peasant.
That's so low status.
But what Donald Trump is saying is that the work itself is not intrinsically dishonorable.
He is saying that what they do is perfectly noble and decent, and it's good that they do it.
And this is the thing that is being telegraphed to the average voter.
This is why it seems wholesome when Trump is doing this.
This is why it matters.
This is why when Trump is in the garbage truck, it's nice.
It's nice to see someone who doesn't actively hate the working people of the country who make everything run.
But also, he has done a sort of ziu-ziitsu move because he has essentially said that I'm not the Democrats.
And I'm more joyous than you and you're saying you have a campaign of joy and you're full of resentment and I'm having the time of my life and everyone else is having the time of their lives with me.
Yeah, I mean he's on stage joking around about wearing the high-vis jacket and the Democrats are just...
Like, no, you're all garbage.
We hate you.
And it's like, okay, well, again, you couldn't get better optics.
Who's against the liberal elite?
Oh, it's definitely only Donald Trump and his supporters.
You know, it's definitely not the Democrats.
They are the liberal elite.
They would never dress like this.
They hate you.
And ultimately, it's why Rory's Trump 24 shirt works so well.
The Art of the Grill.
I have my one that I'll be wearing on election night.
So go and get yours.
It's only going to be there until the election night.
And this, it just, again, it just fits so perfectly.
He's not a pretentious man.
He is actually, in a lot of ways, you know, not financially, but in his character, he is just a regular American.
And that's what this shows.
Also, I just love that design.
I love it too.
Again, like, Rory, it wasn't his idea.
It was Michael's idea, I think.
But, like, Rory was in the office the other day.
He's like, because we were talking about it.
It's like, yeah, no, because it really fits.
And Rory was just like, yeah, I don't know how it came to him.
Michael just chirps on the back.
I came up with it!
LAUGHTER Rory, like, oh, I just hit the ley line of the zeitgeist.
Yep.
Came to me in a dream.
Mason says, halfway through the J.D. Vance on Rogan.
Yeah, I watched that last night as well.
I know that maybe I want Trump to win as a potential follow-up J.D. Vance or DeSantis' 2028 ticket.
They put an end to the current global paradigm once and for all.
Maybe.
Maybe.
How was Vance on Rogan?
I've not watched it.
It was great.
He was very relaxed.
Rogan was having a good time.
It was a very easy and free-flowing conversation.
And Vance is a great talker.
He's just on every point.
He's very switched on.
He's brilliant.
So yeah, no, he hammered it, I thought.
Matt says, if Trump wins, he should have a meeting with Jeremy Clarkson on his farm on his first trip to Britain as president.
That would be really, really funny.
Anyway, let's move on to the Irish government.
May I have a mouse?
Thank you very much.
We have good news and bad news from Ireland regarding hate speech legislation, and I think that this shows very well, even to people who are not particularly informed and are beginning to be informed about current affairs, what is actually going on in the Western world.
I think it's a really good case study.
Right, so good news is that the hate speech legislation that passed doesn't contain some of the most problematic features of the hate speech bill that people are reacting against.
And part of the good news is that the backlash actually worked.
The pressure of people against Irish politicians, also from platforms like Twitter and other politicians, also the pressure from politicians too.
The Irish government actually worked.
So that's good news.
The bad news in a nutshell is that they are not stopping.
They will double down and they will attack the freedom of the Irish people and they have already done so in ways that aren't particularly visible.
So it's important to mention the good news but also mention the bad news and why people should remain vigilant.
Right.
So we're talking about the infamous Criminal Justice Bill 2022.
Which is a sort of amendment to existing criminal damage bills.
So there are several bills in Ireland and this bill is adding to them.
Essentially it adds provisions that have to do with hatred when it is an aggravated factor of particular crimes.
And if we scroll down here we will see that the very problematic bill has passed from the Doyle in April 2023.
But it hasn't been passed by both houses.
Last week, on the 23rd of October 2024, an amendment version was passed.
And I will show you what it lacked.
So this is the original bill.
And if we scroll down, we will see that it has a part Two called prohibition of incitement to violent or hatred, which had incredibly weird and bad and tyrannical, you could say, clauses.
For instance, the mere possession of content that could be seen as hateful, and of course that's subjective, could be a criminal offence.
The memes on my phone.
Exactly, yeah.
The memes on your phone, yeah.
So, this has been shelved for the time being.
And if you see the new version, it has 24 pages, it doesn't have 40, so they have slashed a lot from it.
But there is something, so part two from the previous one doesn't exist.
But if we go here on interpretation, we will see something that I think is essentially what it all boils down to.
Now, there's something that, there's a funny aspect to it because it's ridiculous and you could say it's stupid, but also stupidity is sometimes incredibly dangerous.
So, if someone defined you hatred as hatred against a person or a group of persons in the state, Is this a good definition?
Well, I mean, it can't use itself in its own definition, but you could say, you know, ill will or negative feelings towards a personal group of persons, but really, I'm not even in control of my own feelings now.
Exactly.
So we are not told what hatred is.
We are told who are the targets of hatred.
And there are people with protected characteristics and they're talking about gender, sex, religion.
And if you go on gender, they'll say it's the traditional two genders, but also how people identify.
But apart from this, it reminds me of someone here, someone people know.
So Kendi is giving a definition of racism.
Let's play this video just to bear in mind who creates legislation and of the intellectual caliber.
...is really understanding the way racism operates.
And so I actually define racism as a powerful collection Of racist policies that lead to racial inequity and are substantiated by racist ideas.
Yeah, these are not good definitions.
Just anyone who knows anything about this will tell you that, of course, it can't contain itself because then it's a never-ending semantic loop.
I mean, you did a series on the website that you should check out on Critical Race Theory and the ideas that were leading up to people like Ibram X. Kendi to be able to go up on stages like that and spew absolute nonsense.
So this is absolute nonsense.
He doesn't know what he's on about.
And tell me, does this definition of hatred...
Bear any similarity to what Kendi just said.
It's obviously exactly the same and it's the same as trying to define women and stuff like that.
They've got no solid definition.
Yes, so we will go back to this because this is essentially a bomb in legislation and we will unpack this very carefully and clearly so people understand what is going on.
So, we have here the Doyle-Pastor hate crime legislation and it's 60% that voted for it, 40% that voted against it.
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Right, so back to our topic.
As they say here in the Irish Times, new laws stalled in Upper House after criticism by backbenchers, senators, free speech group, and also Elon Musk.
So it worked.
It actually had good effects.
But the problem is that this is a battle against good and evil that is ever-ending.
Yeah, they're perennially going to want this.
Exactly.
They'll just stop trying to get this through.
I mean, there's a reason it looks just like the British one as well.
The British hate speech laws, I can't Well, there's the Equality Act of 2010 which codified a lot of the protected characteristics, but again, like that, like this, that was a bringing together of a lot of other previous laws.
Yes.
Okay, so bad news now.
We need to talk a bit about the bad news.
Is that McEntee still wants to pass this.
And she won't stop.
That's number one.
And also the other bit is that hatred is something that is incredibly subjective.
So once you introduce it into legislation, you give an argument to the government to prosecute you if they don't have any argument against you.
Well, that's the entire point of this kind of legislation.
It's been pointed out numerous times, hundreds of times, thousands of times, that the Equality Act, the protected characteristics, should reasonably, if taken straight from the legislation as written, also protect the rights and feelings of white, straight British men.
It doesn't.
It doesn't because it's all about who is administering and applying those laws and their interpretations.
So these kinds of bills are just there as an open blank check, an open invitation for administrators and bureaucrats to punish you.
Exactly.
So we have here Helen McEntee.
She says that essentially the definition of hatred is correct.
She doubles down even on that definition.
And she says that she will not stop fighting because she thinks that legislation has to renew itself and they have to put in those words.
Now, the question here is, what are they trying to achieve?
Now, to the naive, what they're trying to achieve is just having a sort of society where people just respect each other's emotions more.
That's, in the mind of naive people, what the government is on about.
But it's good if we peel through the onion of deception and start talking a bit about what is going there.
So, what I want to...
That's a good metaphor.
I don't see the problem.
There's an ancient relic of esoteric power.
Yes.
It is, yeah.
I mean, audience have many layers.
Yeah.
Is that going to be in Shrek 5?
Yeah, so basically what they want to do is, they're a government, and they're representatives of the state.
They want to increase their power.
Yes.
Right?
They want to increase their power, and they want to do so in ways that seem legitimate.
So, by introducing subjective elements into legislation and appealing to these laws, they can actually act entirely arbitrarily against the spirit of the laws, against the spirit of the rule of law, in the name of legitimacy.
Because sadly, most people have the belief that if something is a law, then it's correct, and if the law says something about what people should do, then people should do it.
Sadly, we see that people are very much conforming with lots of laws that are obviously tyrannical.
And it's scary to think about it.
Right, so...
The thing about this, though, this kind of law is essentially against the concept of judgment.
How dare you make a judgment?
All of these different things.
Because, I mean, if you, like, look at the categories, right?
You've got, oh, well, you can't do it based on race.
Okay, so what you're saying is, like, 90% or whatever Irish people Aren't allowed to have judgments against the new people who have arrived, the minority of people.
Exactly.
So these things are morally equivalent.
There's no difference between them.
Again, the sex is, oh, you're not allowed to have a judgment against someone who uses weirdo, wacko pronouns.
Alright, so 99% of people aren't allowed to have an opinion about the 1%.
Well, how are you supposed to be able to trust your judgment if it's not been outsourced to an expert institution?
Well, no, the problem is your judgment might not be the same as theirs, and therefore that's wrong, and that has to be stopped.
It's hatred.
You're not allowed it.
Thankfully, the experts have judged that you're a racist.
Yeah, thank you.
So, seeing as it's come from experts, we can trust it.
Yes, that's exactly it, because the government wants to appear as if they're immune to the abuse of power.
Yes.
Also, they want to present themselves as infallible judges of disinformation, and just take a look at the school books that are being taught.
It's just...
They're genuinely stigmatizing the concept of people exercising their own judgment because there may well be something wrong that happens at the end of it.
It doesn't have to be.
It's not necessary.
It's punishing their enemies and rewarding their supporters.
What they're trying to do is erase the concept of you having the ability to judge other people as being different.
Exactly.
So you could never end up...
Discriminating.
Exactly.
And that's how we see that the modern state is the anti-racist state.
And we see this in the UK, in England, in Wales, in Scotland, in Ireland.
We see it everywhere.
And anti-racism now is, I think, the new form of totalitarianism.
It's just as simple as that.
It's just mind reading.
We say you're a racist.
And if we say you're a racist, automatically this gives a reason to the state to do anything they want against you.
Now, but I think we need to analyze a bit about...
Beneath another layer.
Another layer of the onion of deception.
I think we should...
How they are punishing their enemies, because this is exactly what they are doing to the Irish people.
What they are doing is essentially...
They're habituating them into not having an opinion.
They're habituating them into not criticizing the government, because automatically speaking, the government can appeal to the hate speech law and to say, any criticism of my points is hatred.
And the modern state, the modern state is an anti-hatred state, therefore we're going to crush you.
And the only reason they would need this is if they were planning on changing Ireland substantially, right?
If Ireland wasn't going to change for the next 50 years, roughly, compared to the previous 50 years, well, why would any of this be necessary?
No, they know in advance they're going to pile in as many foreigners as possible, they're going to expand the number of genders there are, blah, blah, blah, blah, we're going to set up loads of mosques, you know, things are going to radically change in Ireland.
And what this is, is to make sure that you don't criticize it, you don't speak out of line, and you don't act or organize against it.
That's what this is about.
Exactly.
And they are against what they are calling racism and against what they are calling the far right.
But infamous video here, Helen McEntee cannot define far right.
She can't define hatred.
She can't define racism.
She can't define woman.
Legislation is created by people who cannot define what they mean.
People may be tempted to say that they're stupid.
Yeah, I think it's deliberate because when you have so subjective legislation, they can hide arbitrary abuse of power under the cloak of legitimacy.
It's not stupid, it's incredibly clever.
And also they're making the Irish pay for the supporters of them.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's clever.
I do agree that it's...
Brilliant.
It's evil.
Well, it's incredibly transparent and obvious.
Yeah, but it's insanely Machiavellian.
It's not...
Clever.
It's just an overtly tyrannical use of power.
Yeah, but they're there and we're here.
They've totally outmaneuvered us.
I know that that's where they are.
I do also think there is a massive element of stupidity to it in assuming that they will be able to maintain their power and quality of life when the Irish have been replaced by these new Irishmen because I think that one of the greatest ideological follies of our age is the blank slate.
Which all of these moves do seem to be operating off of.
That you do have an interchangeable diaspora of people across the world, the global citizens, who can be interchanged with one another without any consequences.
That's stupid to me.
But also, it's knowingly evil.
You're right.
The original premise is stupid and evil.
But also...
The fact that they're like, okay, but we're just going to define the law in what is essentially an undefined manner, so we can make it anything we want.
And the fact that they can get away with it, that is clever.
They've got one over on everyone.
I mean, it's the same in Britain.
I mean, it's not clever.
I equate it if I were to do an analogy.
You're the family stuck in the corner while a retard, an actual mentally retarded person, is waving a gun about firing it wildly.
Yeah, you can't do anything about it, but it's not because the retard has outmaneuvered you in any clever way.
I think they may have done it if they've got the gun.
It's just because they managed to somehow pick up a gun at some point.
How did they get a gun and I haven't got a gun?
No, they've definitely outmaneuvered me here.
I mean, the Rizad may have outmanoved you.
He's outmanoved to all of us.
It's simple, but I don't think it's idiotic.
Anyway.
We're opening way too many...
Too many layers of the onion.
No, we have to peel another layer of the onion of deception and talk about how they're rewarding friends and talk about what they tried to do this March 2024 With the two referendums.
Now, a lot of people examined these two referendums in isolation, and we did segments, and I said that we need to see what both of them together, what the Irish government tried to do by passing both of them.
So essentially, what they tried to do is the following.
The Irish constitution has a traditional definition of the family, And also has the provision that there can be economic help to mothers, so that mothers don't get forced to work if they face economic adversity.
So what they tried to do with these two referendums is the following.
Referendum number one was the family referendum.
They wanted to change the definition of the family.
Yet again, Again, deceive people about what the family is and say that family is the traditional family plus any social formation that can be seen as a durable relationship, which obviously it's entirely arbitrary.
And the second referendum was about the care amendment and they wanted to say it's not just mothers.
Who are going to receive economic help, but any member of a family, which means any member of any durable relationship.
So what they did and the Irish voted correctly and the first one, the first referendum was rejected.
I think it was a double score.
Two thirds were against it.
So around 67%.
More than that.
And the CARE bill, it was more like a triple score.
It was close to 75% rejected it, only 25% said yes.
That's good that they rejected it, but it astounds me that these are even put up to vote in the first place.
It's like trying to legislate gravity.
No, what they tried to do is really simple.
They wanted to be able to give money to anyone they wanted by just saying that you're a member of a durable relationship and they're making it seem legitimate.
So all of this, introducing subjective elements to legislation, it's all a matter of covering arbitrary authority with the appearance of legitimacy, and they want to do it because they want to increase their power.
So it's good news that a lot of the problematic things didn't pass, but also people should remain vigilant and reject this as well.
Yep.
BinarySurf says, late to the podcast, who put a gun to Harry's head in a suit?
A good choice of one, too.
Oh, thank you very much.
Me.
No, he didn't actually put a gun to my head.
It was metaphorical.
I wanted to dress nicely as of recently.
It's good, I think, to do so.
Right, okay, let's go to the video comments.
Ah, no video comments.
No video comments.
Friday easy.
Claire says, lovely to see you guys wearing your poppies.
Yeah, I got a nice one there as well.
Thank you.
I heard that this year's donations are being given to Stonewall.
What?
Connor has been talking about this.
I don't know if that's true, but Connor tends to be correct.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is a pride poppy design, so I know that that's true, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're giving Stonewall just...
After the scandals, I'm shocked that they're still around, but at the same time, not shocked, because they're kind of like disgusting, irradiated cockroaches.
They survive forever and only get worse.
Yep, that's how I'd describe Stanmore 2.
But yeah, they're trying to subvert Remembrance Day, which is the one day that the veterans...
I was just seeing the chat talking about the onion of deception.
They're still going on about it.
It's a good metaphor.
I'll start using it.
Yeah, well you did start using it.
Sheev Palpatine says future episodes need a trigger warning if James O'Brien clips going to be featured.
No, I agree with that.
No, it's a jump scare.
It's the James O'Brien jump scare.
Halloween may have been yesterday but we're still in the spooky season.
But I do agree it's not fair to inflict him on people by surprise.
Too bad I do what I want.
Like make me do another bloody James O'Brien book club.
I'm not making you.
I'm not forcing you.
I'll do it by myself if I have to.
But you can't resist.
Put on the bloody bookshelf.
So every time you leave the room you've got to look at James O'Brien's face.
Again, he complains about it, but there's nothing stopping him from taking James O'Brien down.
We like having James O'Brien's judgment.
He's there, whispering at us, saying, you could be a little bit more offensive with that one, Carl.
Are you sure that tweet goes far enough?
That's what James is asking.
I hope not hate going to put this in their state of hate report.
I don't think they will.
Conqueror Thunder says, I'm related, but it's nice to see all the boys don poppies this time of year.
Well, of course.
Matthew says, what about Jeremy Clarkson for Prime Minister for Reform?
He runs on anti-legal immigration, pro-pharma, low-tax, Yavia Malay-style civil service austerity, and a Britain First platform.
Again, I have no doubt that Jeremy Clarkson, assuming power, would be much more effective and pro-British and patriotic than anybody else that we have right now.
Imagine if he then puts James and Richard into the heads of departments.
That would be amazing.
Jeremy Clarkson doesn't operate with an obvious and open animus against the country.
He loves the country.
I know.
He loves the people in it.
So it would be way better to have just anyone.
Honestly, anyone.
In fact, Jeremy Clarkson, you were talking about Trump.
During Clarkson's farm, when you see him introducing himself to the locals, or at least introducing the audience to the locals and the way he interacts with everybody who lives around him, it's kind of like Trump going to McDonald's.
Like Trump going at a garbage farm.
He doesn't care.
He's a good bloke who gets along with people because he's a good guy.
It comes up with crazy ideas and they're always funny to watch.
Galacta says, Honestly, I was sceptical about Clarkson's Farm as a TV programme.
But it was actually fantastic, wholesome and hilarious.
I'll always miss the OG Top Gear and now the Grand Tour.
But Clarkson's Farm is brilliant watching.
It also is suddenly helping our message get across to the British public.
Yeah, it's the most right-wing TV programme in decades.
And everyone watches it.
I don't know anyone who doesn't watch it.
That's the thing.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah, me too.
I still need to catch up with the third series, but one of them is incredible.
I'm about halfway through it.
Also, the amount of people the second series radicalised against their local councils.
Damn right!
I was furious!
Everybody was going, oh, these people are petty.
Yes.
They're petty children for no reason.
Yes.
For literally no reason.
It's just because they don't like Clarkson.
So yeah, it's superb stuff, and this is why Jeremy Clarkson probably would win.
Roman Observer says, Yeah, it's just so counterproductive to any kind of good common sense that it just has to be the result of left-wing policy, right?
It's what it's all for.
Well, yeah, the modern world, and this is another thing pushing to it, just wants you to have as low time preference as possible.
It needs to be now, now, now, now, now.
Is that why Jordan Peterson started writing about satisfaction delaying?
In a way, but this is also a point that the Austrians hit on a lot, which is that...
What I said about the farmers!
The Austrian economics is all about savings mentality.
You save, you save, you save, and when you find a good investment, you put money into it.
It's not just like spending money.
But on a broader philosophical perspective, it's basically saying don't be hedonistic.
I mean, Grant's got a great point.
Have virtue.
Does that nurse administrator own a home?
Well, her reward for her career is that home, so she should be forced to sell it and that's her reward.
See how stupid you sound, James.
Yeah, that's a really good one, actually.
And the thing as well, like, you know...
Anyone who is employed by the state is not a productive person, so their job had better be necessary, or else they're just sucking up resources that are not needed.
And so if you've got six nurses when two would actually suffice, that's four nurses who are just essentially wasteful on the taxpayer.
Well, again, I've, in the past year or so, I've been in A&E, and it really is, you sit there, and you see all of these people waiting to be seen, and you see half a dozen, possibly a dozen staff members, standing around, on their phones, doing nothing.
And you think to yourself, why are you being here?
Why are you here?
Why are you here?
It's utterly insufferable, and there's just no incentive to cut the waste.
I mean, again, Jeremy Clarkson, I think, would probably do something about it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Gates' sticky fingers aren't puppeteering Starmer's decisions for a land grab.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but I haven't seen any evidence.
It'll be Bill Gates, it'll be Black Rock, it'll be anybody who can afford it.
Eat all of those assets up.
Oh, yeah!
Was he really?
Oh, I didn't know about this.
Yeah, Bill Gates was given a tour.
Wasn't he, like, the first person that Starman met or something?
Hmm.
Oh, that just says it all, doesn't it?
Yeah, it probably is bloody in.
Passing says, inheritance tax is particularly disgusting because everything you earn invested over your lifetime is already taxed far too high.
It means everything is taxed twice or three times over if you want to leave something to your children.
Yeah, no, it really is.
And like I said, I don't stand to inherit anything, but I just hate the concept of an inheritance tax.
It's just fundamentally unfair.
Communists can't understand, but you can have principles outside of your own immediate self-interest.
Yeah, you don't have to personally benefit to not agree with something.
I can look at the Matthew State example.
Yeah, I can look at inheritance tax and say, well, you're stealing people's money for no reason other than to benefit yourself.
That's immoral.
And they turn around and they say, well, have you got assets over...
I'm not stealing your money, though.
It's like, yeah, but you shouldn't be stealing anyone's bloody money.
You're not stealing it yet.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, I just...
Are you going to take this gold burst to the underworld?
Yeah, but it's just an unbelievable myopic view of things.
I hate it.
I mean, Brian said, oh, it's the politics of envy.
No, the communists are the politics of envy, resentment, ceiling jealousy.
Let's talk about billionaires, James.
Right.
Ed Dutton put it rather harshly, but he did say that leftism is a collection of genetic garbage.
And I don't endorse, but I don't disavow.
I can't find a way of inherently disagreeing, but that's why I'll move on.
Daniel says, This will hit farms near cities the hardest while the land value will be higher as it's desirable for putting house developments on.
This is clearly in place to drive out farmers from places like Salisbury, Swindon, etc.
Any farm near a large town or city that will have one generation left.
That's a great point as well that I didn't even consider.
The locality of it, it's going to be about getting farmland into the hands of property developers so we can just house Bermalians all over the country.
Who will then immediately starve?
There's presumably no food.
Again, we're totally reliant on the global economy, foreign countries.
So let's just hope that they desperately want to give us food.
Arizona Desert Rat says, so instead of saving for retirement, farmers have to save for their children's inheritance tax.
Yeah, that's literally it, but farming isn't exactly a high-margin profession at this point, so good luck with that.
Jerry Reynolds says, what is it with commies wanting to starve people?
It's like they always screw over farmers, no matter what country or continent commies are doing commie things.
Yeah, well, the thing is, right, People always forget this about communism because the communists themselves talk in terms of classes.
They sound universal.
They sound like they're everywhere at all times and actually I'm talking about the whole swathe of the country.
But if you actually were to look top-down at where communism happens, What's a proletariat?
Well, that's an industrial working class in the urban centers.
So actually, if you were to draw up a map of, say, Russia, and then localize the proletariat, you'd have, like, three cities, right?
You'd have, like, two or three cities, like St.
Petersburg, Moscow, whatever.
Tiny, tiny red dots surrounded by a sea of peasant farmers.
So most of the country, they say, oh, the proletariat are going to rise up against the capitalists, whereas actually, the proletariat are a very tiny percentage of the actual population of the country, but the actual farmers, they're actually all over the place and they're the vast bulk of things.
Well, this is the same mentality of those who complain in America about the Electoral College.
Yeah.
Because, kind of in the opposite direction, in America, you get this mass conflagration of disgusting, dysgenic bug men who gather together in the slums of the city.
Can I just pause you and say, because I saw one, Aaron Rupar, on Twitter the other day, complaining that RFK was going to take away his process slop.
And it's like, sorry.
You should be grateful for that.
But that's exactly the kind of person you're talking about.
And then they tyrannise over...
Yeah, so what they're saying is that these bug men population centers need to be able to tyrannize the rest of the rural country.
Which is all communism has ever been.
To Stillman Carl's point, it's not a coincidence that Lenin had the minority party and named it the majority party.
No, no, that's exactly it.
The Mensheviks should never have said it to the name.
It's insufferable.
But the point is, communism has always been the tyranny of the industrial cities over the hinterlands.
And that's all we're seeing now.
That's just a further expansion of that.
Because often, smallholding farmers do okay for themselves and are not totally dependent on the state.
Afray Bentos for every Haitian, which is still a part of my manifesto, says, are we sure the 90 IQ Labour government actually understands the concept of an asset?
Now that's actually a genuine question, right?
We've raised it before, that David Lammy may be generous at 90.
Well, no, no, David Lammy's under average 90.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So David Lammy's obviously on the 80 side.
Keir Starmer's probably 95, you know, he's pushing it up almost.
He's got an internal monologue, but it doesn't get up to much.
Well, he doesn't have an internal monologue.
Oh yeah, he doesn't read books.
He doesn't like music.
And he doesn't dream.
Oh yeah, I forgot he doesn't dream.
He's not been programmed to dream.
Is he rotating the onion of deception in his mind?
No, I don't think he can rotate a deceptive onion in his mind.
But the Freak Mentors for Every Haitian says, I can imagine them seeing the figures on a spreadsheet and assuming it's liquid cash.
You know, I tweeted this out of the...
Is that out of the realm of possibility?
I'm sad to say it's not.
No.
That's not out of the realm.
You see leftists say this sort of thing every time.
It's like, how do we allow billionaires?
Shouldn't we just cap them at 999 million?
And it's like, no, no, no, no.
It's not Scrooge McDuck in a vault of gold.
It's property ownership.
It's businesses.
A business has loads of people who make money out of the business, and the total value of the business is a huge part of their net worth.
So there are loads of people who invest in that.
Elon doesn't own them like chattel, is my point.
You don't understand money.
Is the answer to the leftists.
Anyway, moving on.
George says, Who better to drain the swamp than a garbage man?
The response of Trump's campaign has been very impressive.
He seems to have good people on his team.
Yeah, this time he really does, doesn't he?
Some might say the best.
I'm sure some would.
Omar says, Ever since his usurpation, Biden has gaffed in ways so specifically beneficial to the Trump campaign.
It's hard to believe he's not using his brief moments of lucidity for revenge.
Torpedoed Joe as the meme magic made manifest.
Yeah, now that was another great point, because that's why it describes an unforced error.
Like, there was nothing requiring Joe Biden to come out and just call all Trump supporters just garbage.
And it was just nothing but a net benefit for Trump.
See, what I like to think of this as is, um...
Obviously it's the usual suspects, but Scary Movie.
You've watched Scary Movie, right?
I mean, years.
Which one?
Which one?
The first one, where it's Doofy.
Doofy turns out to have been behind it, and he's this blubbering retard who limps everywhere.
And you get the usual suspects reveal at the end, where he's limping, limping.
Slowly the walk starts to straighten up.
He pulls off the moustache.
He's got hair slicked back.
That's going to be after this election, when Trump wins.
Goodbye.
Joe Biden puts on his shades.
He puts on his MAGA hat.
Into the sunset.
Again, he has put on a MAGA hat, so it's just like, hmm.
There you go.
Yeah, brief moments of lucidity indeed.
RB says, the interesting thing about the Puerto Rico joke is that the crowd overwhelmingly received it poorly, booing and grinning.
Oh yeah, I should have pulled that out.
Joey says, I saw a freaking fact check that the garbage truck was not in fact Donald Trump's truck.
Yeah, I suck.
He could have afforded it.
Yeah, he probably could have afforded it.
Like, he didn't actually buy himself a car.
No kidding.
Thank you for the fact check, Snopes.
Lancia and Joya.
Jeremy Clarkson was punching Piers Morgan and dunking on greens 15 years ago.
I forgot that Jeremy Clarkson punched Piers Morgan.
Definitely want him in charge now.
Can you imagine Piers Morgan's bloody face?
He really was based when YouTube didn't even exist yet, before his time.
He was always getting into trouble for little comments and jokes that he would make on Top Gear as well.
Do you remember when he made a joke about, I think he made jokes about Mexican rapists and the BBC had to come out and apologise for it.
My wife doesn't like cars at all, but she loves watching Top Gear.
She loves watching Jeremy Clarkson.
So she was the one who made me sit down and watch Clarkson's farm.
I like Jeremy Clarkson just fine, but I was just like, do I want to watch a thing about farming?
And then literally two episodes in, I'm like, okay, this is brilliant.
So glad you made me do this, darling.
Hosep says, there was someone on X who was literally saying that Trump was embarrassing himself by lowering himself to the level of a McDonald's employee.
And there you go.
That's exactly my point proven.
It's...
He is showing that he doesn't care that it's low class and he thinks that there's an intrinsic honour and dignity in it, in and of itself.
Which is great, frankly.
Derek says, we know the definition of insanity.
The funny thing is we can rely on Democrats to practice that definition to a T, despite them not being able to define what a woman is.
And Colin says, I'm still waiting for the genuine explanation of why there are such things as protected characteristics.
Well, you see, we are dominated by an insane liberal hegemony that does not allow us to recognize that people come from groups.
And that's literally all of it summarized.
North FC Zuma says, And now over to our Ireland correspondent, Stelios.
Arizona Desert Rat says, Only certain religions are protected.
I doubt anyone will be arrested for saying death to Christians.
Yeah, I mean, the thing about the Irish at the moment is they're kind of speed running the British experience, right?
So, for any Irish viewers, in the next few years, you'll find people arrested for praying inside their own heads near abortion clinics and things like that.
It'll only go one way.
If a Muslim were to do that, they wouldn't get arrested.
It'll only be the Christians who got arrested for that.
Because, of course, this is about righting historic injustices, the Irish well-known for their colonial empire and imposing themselves on the rest of the world.
The perfidious Irish, I think, is what it's described as.
Yeah, that's genuinely how the French call them.
I like the way we can just say, oh yeah, look at the Irish.
Kevin says, yeah, because that worked well for Cromwell and Ireland, you're all serfs and have no right to an opinion.
The sad thing is that just like when Cromwell went to Ireland and Longshans went to Scotland, there are so many people, particularly in those in high stations, who agree with all this nonsense.
Yes, basically.
Charlie says, I haven't actually been following what's likely to happen politically.
I don't know why Conor McGregor doesn't start like the Irish Freedom Party.
In fact, no, that already exists.
Join the Irish Freedom Party.
He keeps talking about being president of Ireland, but that doesn't do anything.
We've got some honourable mentions here.
Yeah, yeah.
Michael says, please, God, let Trump win.
Well, that's what I'm hoping for, because I don't want to have to do a sweaty chenk meltdown.
Every time you hint it, it makes me want it more.
I know.
Even me saying it makes me want it.
The video that we've been playing, where you've been announcing the election stream, where you mention that, and then it cuts in with Shane going...
I don't...
I don't...
I don't want it to happen, but I appreciate how funny it would be if it did happen.
You know, there's something like, you know, the sort of mirror image of it.
There's something mimetic about it, and I don't want that to happen.
You want the tragic value of the meltdown.
I appreciate the tragic value of the meltdown.
I appreciate that it would be symbolic and mystical, but I don't want that.
I want Trump to win, damn it.
I think it'd be funny.
It would be funny.
That's the thing.
I can see objectively that this would be funny.
Joey says, didn't Clarkson's farm get higher ratings than the Lord of the Rings Abomination?
Oh, yeah.
Way higher.
Way higher.
And obviously, the Rings of Power cost way more to make.
Cost a billion dollars per series, I think.
Yeah.
There's no way they gave Jeremy Clarkson a billion dollars.
But again, the thing is, though, what's really interesting about it, they're like, oh, we're going to have multicultural hobbits, whereas Jeremy Clarkson has real-life hobbits.
Yeah, Gerald.
Literally living in a real-life shire, doing hobbit things, and that's still a hobbit things of resisting the government.
And people tune in in their millions.
People love it.
This is crazy how, like, there's something about authenticity.
You can't fake these things.
Ersats.
Michael says, the concept of planting a tree your great-grandchildren will enjoy its shade is an alien concept to your average leftist.
Well, I mean, obviously.
I think your average leftist would gag at the idea of having great-grandchildren.
Yeah.
Yeah, you shouldn't.
That's what they say.
Well, I agree that they shouldn't, yeah.
I agree they shouldn't have great-grandchildren, but I intend to have lots of great-grandchildren.
When they tell me these days, oh, I'm not planning on having kids, I shrug my shoulders and say, oh, thank God.
Good thinking.
Yeah, thank you.
I don't think you'd be a good parent either There's something about congratulating someone for being a genetic dead end that's a really bad burn Oh yeah, they've no idea how to respond to it.
They go, wait, wait, you're agreeing with me.
I'm not having any kids.
Something's going wrong.
Thank you for your service.
You know?
I don't know why I find that so funny.
It just really is.
Clarkson as PM, James May, Foreign Secretary, obviously.
Hammond for Health Minister, and with all this medical experience matters.
Didn't he get in a car crash?
He's been in many cars.
He was in a really high-speed one.
Let's see, how many crashes?
There was one where he's going to...
Two major ones, right.
He was going like 300 miles an hour or something.
And the thing is, this really annoyed me, because he was like 37, he had like a bunch of kids, and it's like, what are you doing going 300 miles an hour?
Yeah, just, you know, this is an unnecessary risk, you shouldn't be taking your age.
Here you go, 2006.
Hammond was driving a jet-powered dragster at 319 miles per hour when a tyre burst.
That's unfortunate.
That's unfortunate.
Causing him to lose control and land upside down in a field.
He was left in a coma for two weeks and had a frontal lobe brain injury.
The thing is, just like with James and Jeremy, I really love Richard Hammond's...
the way he holds himself, the way he...
Yeah, I like him.
He's done lots of documentaries where he's gone around England, and I saw a clip from one from a few years ago where he was going around the Lake District, and he sat down in front of a pub, which he said was one of his favourite pubs in the entire country, and he just described how rooted he felt to the land, the sentiments that he had to the people around him, and how quintessentially English he felt.
And he basically gave a blood and soil speech.
But in the sentimental English manner.
Not that he hated anybody else, just that he loved this country and his place in it.
And it's really nice to see that he still held those patriotic feelings.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Because he's been across the entire world.
Yeah, but the thing is, this is another point that...
You remember that Steve Bray, the Stop Brexit Man?
Stop Brexit!
There was one time, there was a debate happening outside of Parliament with the Remainers and UKIP, and it was being recorded, and he was just like, you know, funny thing about all these UKIPers, they've all got foreign wives.
And it's like, yeah, because the more you learn about the world, the more you realise how different we are to the rest of it, and so you want us to remain like we are and not like them, because there are these tangible differences.
The average liberal democrat who's in their middle class house and have never really been anywhere apart from on package holidays or cruises or something, you don't know.
You don't know what these people are like.
I think the reason that they romanticise the idea of internationalism is because they have so little experience of it.
So they want to feel like they're not as parochial as they are because they've got the middle class values.
They attach a sense of shame to it.
Yeah, but I tell you what, man, the very first diverse machete gang that runs down their street, they're going to be voting clerks and nationalism that very day.
They're going to be getting their black shirts on.
Yeah, they absolutely will.
Because the thing is, a lot of the Lib Dem voters, they're not people who hate England.
They just want to think of themselves as high class, you know, above the rabble.
So yeah, but you don't want the machetes, do you?
But anyway, on that note, we are out of time.
So join us in half an hour for a lads hour discussing how to start a cult.
My advice is start a YouTube channel criticizing woke ideas and feminism.
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