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Sept. 19, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1004
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Hello.
Welcome to the podcast of the low seaters for the 19th of September 2024.
I am joined by Marcus Hortevich and Harold Hidrada here and I am of course Count Thermular.
But anyway, today we're going to be talking- What was the point of that?
I don't know.
We were going to do a whole segment about how I was private security and yet now here we are.
I'm introduced as a Russian agent instead.
Well, it's all the rage at the minute.
But no, we've got Mark Horton here, of course.
Psychologist and Basket Weaver's founding member.
There we go.
That's a proper introduction.
A proper introduction, thank you very much.
For a proper person, he's definitely real.
He's actually a hologram.
People complained when I was on the podcast on Monday that they had no idea who I was because Karl did a terrible introduction.
But was he?
I did well.
So we're talking about P. Diddy, we're talking about re-migration and how it's possible.
I've got a plan.
Are we talking about re-migrating P. Diddy?
We could.
It's possible.
Anything's possible.
We have the technology.
It can be done.
And we're also talking about the over-diagnosis epidemic.
We are indeed.
And first and foremost, we are hiring some people.
I only found out about this an hour ago.
But yes, if you like administration, you like doing behind the scenes stuff, we have a production administrator position open.
I don't know much about it, but there is stuff on screen right now.
If you know what this is, you might be qualified to do it.
There's a lot of information.
Have a look at it if you feel like you're the right person for the job.
Send us email!
Exactly.
Send us email.
As you said.
Also, we have this magazine, you might have heard of it, called Islander.
It's very good.
You should have bought it already, but if you haven't, there's some great stuff in there.
I'm actually going to read out who's in it this time.
Instead of guessing.
Yes.
Carl Benjamin, you might have heard of him.
Dr. Nima Parvini, whoever that is.
Morgoth Review.
Dr. Charles Cornish-Dale, ROREC Nationalist, to you and me.
Marcus Follin, I think that's the golden one, isn't it?
Dave Green, who's the Distributist.
Stefan Molyneux.
And Christopher... I don't know how to pronounce this guy's name.
Christopher Jolliffe.
Show me.
Tell me.
How's it pronounced?
J-O-L-I-F?
I think Rory said.
I did ask him before I did this.
I've no idea.
But you got that fella.
And some others, which are surprises.
So yes, very good.
Good aesthetics as ever.
I mean, look at it.
It's beautiful.
You want to buy it.
It's matte.
It feels nice.
It smells nice.
I've not tasted it yet, but it looks pretty tasty.
Look at the subtle off-white colouring.
There you go.
But anyway, let's hear about Puff Diddler.
Alright, yeah, I thought I'd cover something that is of the interest of our entire audience.
What?
Alright, I am starting this first segment now.
Thank you, Samson.
Good sales impression there.
Yeah, so, yeah, I thought I'd cover something that's in the interest of our entire audience, our target demographic, of course, being the ghettos, and that is P Diddy.
Now possibly going to be changing his official title to Puff Diddler, allegedly.
Make sure to make that very, very clear right now.
It's all alleged thus far.
Okay.
So, let's not get into any libel action here.
But what isn't alleged... He's gonna find it very difficult to sue us from prison, isn't he?
Well, he's been denied bail, so yes, probably.
I did cover some of what was going on earlier on this year, but there have been some developments, so I thought I'd go over some of what happened and give everybody an update.
But what isn't alleged is that we have a fantastic magazine out, Islander No.
2, that Josh just can't help waggling around there.
Ooh, it works in 3D as well.
Yeah, it's full of excellent articles and is available on the website for a limited time only.
If you order it, you'll be able to- Thanks?
Did somebody hop you up on too many sweets this morning?
What's going on?
Dizzy on sugar.
I knew it.
Yes, if you order it right now then we'll be ordering to print and you should receive it within about two to three weeks.
It's got excellent articles from the likes of Carl Benjamin, Nima Parvini, some new contributors including Dave Green, the distributist, and Stefan Molyneux, among others.
You should read it, you should treasure it, you should cuddle it up at night because you're ever so lonely otherwise, you should buy it.
There you go.
So, moving on.
P. Diddy, earlier on this year and at the end of last year, was subject to a rolling number of lawsuits that all came one after the other, that were all alleging very, very serious and similar charges, one after the other.
Where a number of his ex-girlfriends and even one ex-producer of his all alleged that he was a serial sexual abuser who was in an Epstein-like manner hosting parties where some of his ex-girlfriends, some of his colleagues that he would work with, would be forced to have sex with prostitutes.
Many of these prostitutes underage at his home.
and other locations, often rigged up with cameras, secret cameras, in many of these rooms.
This was alleged by his old producer, Lil Rodney, who worked with him up until, I think, midway through last year.
All in the aim of presumably blackmailing people, keeping people within the music industry, particularly the hip-hop sector, under his thumb.
And these were called freak-outs.
So one thing that I'll find very interesting about this, with this trial going forward, is the fact that supposedly Jeffrey Epstein did the same thing, and we heard nothing of the video evidence of the people committing crimes now.
No one's been prosecuted of course for any of these things.
In fact it's all been rather hush-hush.
Of course, and there have been a lot of allegations in the music industry in general for a very, very long time that you have particular ways of getting into the industry, getting a career, being promoted by producers, which I think, as difficult as it can be to make a living in the music industry these days, given how little money there is in it, is at least one thing that the more democratised
online music sharing prevents people from being exposed to which is being exposed to people who are potentially going to sexually exploit you for promises of a career which may not even you may not even get a career out of it you could suck anybody off and you never know if you're actually going to that's what happens Allegedly.
One thing that I would find interesting is if these alleged crimes are of course true, whether these videos that have been allegedly recorded of the alleged perpetrators, I'm going to be saying allegedly a lot here, whether those are going to be released in this case as opposed to the Epstein one, because I see lots of parallels between the two.
But I get the impression that Epstein was much more plugged in with far more elite people than perhaps P. Diddy was.
He was more in the sort of arts and entertainment.
Generally speaking, they're not the ones that run things, are they?
They're not the ones that necessarily run the country, but they do run a lot of LA and Hollywood and the media business.
industry in general, so this will expand out to Hollywood as well.
Think Harvey Weinstein, except potentially more serious than Weinstein, because what was alleged against him was that he used his position of power to coerce women into performing sexual acts on him, whereas what's being alleged against P. Diddy is essentially an enormous prostitution ring and human trafficking, which is what the federal judgments are coming out against him.
So the curious thing for me then is really two questions.
The first is, is there a list of associates and alleged associates, I should say.
Take a shot every time you hear the word allegedly.
But alleged associates and people connected, you know, they've got to be pushers in this market.
You know, there's going to be people like Ghislaine Maxwell was with Epstein.
you know who are sourcing uh you know presumably if it's allegedly children you know underage um girls then it's going to be uh you know they're sourcing these these kids basically to be abused uh and similarly you know you're going to have points of contact for aspiring artists shall we say who want to get in there who then get pointed in P Diddy's direction uh at which point he gets dirt on them by inviting them to the party and then he's got leverage
So, I'm really curious whether or not we would get eyes on that in the event of that.
And the second question really is, why is this coming out now?
What has happened with P. Diddy?
You know, if he's got powerful friends who've been shielding him for a long time, allegedly, then why is this the moment at which the story has broken?
To answer your first question, there are other names involved in it.
I couldn't remember them off the top of my head, but some of the other names involved are other Black Hollywood stars who've appeared in television shows and films as well.
I can't remember, sadly, off the top of my head.
The second question would be that PDD has been Uh, the center of rumors for a very, very long time, and his girl- one of his ex-girlfriends, this, uh, Cassandra Ventura, was one of the ones who put one of these lawsuits against him at the end of last year as well, which seems to have caused this domino effect of all these different lawsuits coming against him, and so I think with all of the evidence that's built up against him, it might just be time for the Hollywood and media elite to throw out a sacrificial lamb.
Which they do every so often.
Fairly high-profile lamb, so to speak.
Yes, but of course, as you say, we don't know how deep this goes, and we don't know if he was high up in the hierarchy, or if he was just a four-guy middleman who, through his talents within the industry, was able to still make a hell of a lot of money from it.
Because of course, if you're in that position, there is a lot of money to be made from it, sadly.
So as I mentioned, One of the things that came out was this lawsuit from his ex-girlfriend, Cassandra Ventura, who was one of the first people to say that he was hosting these freakouts.
She said in a lawsuit that he had forced her to do some terrible sexual acts with prostitutes.
I think they settled that out of court.
She also said that he physically abused her, and we can say almost for certain that that isn't alleged anymore because earlier on this year, CNN actually released footage of it because it was caught on CCTV.
"Obained exclusively by CNN." "Obained exclusively by CNN." Which is pretty brutal.
So there's her, Cassandra, and here is P. Diddy, drunk, high, who knows what, in a towel, going to run up to her and proceeds to just assault her.
Oh my god.
That's horrible.
Not very nice.
And there's footage later on as well of him going back into the hotel corridor and... yeah.
Pretty brutal.
And it lines up almost exactly with what was alleged, as it shows here, in the indictment that was brought against him.
Mr. Combs became extremely intoxicated and punched Miss Ventura in the face, giving her a black eye.
And you can see that that's what happened.
Later on as well, he picks up some vases from the hotel corridor and just starts throwing them at her.
So, it's not very nice, we don't really need to dwell on that, but it seems that, yeah, he's an abuser.
That much is clear.
But one of- some of the more bizarre lawsuits that have come out since all of this happened include this one, which is- go away post-millennial, I don't care- which he's actually been ordered to pay a hundred million dollars in a Michigan sexual assault lawsuit because he failed to attend the hearing.
This was put forward by a man called, um, Derek Lee Cardello-Smith, who it's worth noting is currently a prisoner in Michigan for... He's a convicted felon and sexual predator who had been sentenced on 14 counts of sexual assault and kidnapping over the last 26 years.
So nobody in this story is coming out well.
No.
But he's being paid a hundred million dollars whilst he is in prison because the lawsuit alleged that he met Combs at a Detroit restaurant in 1997 and they were getting drunk and smoking pot.
Cardello Smith says that while Combs was having his way with a woman at the party he put one hand on his rear end.
He also claims that Combs then gave him a drug drink that made him fall unconscious.
That's something that's often alleged at these freakout parties as well, that all the drinks are drugged And you would often drink something and then wake up the next day, no clue what happened.
And of course, Lil Rodney alleges that the entire house was filled with cameras, so who knows what was caught on camera being done to you.
When he regained consciousness, Cordello Smith says he saw Combs engaged in sex with another woman and the rapper informed him, I did this to you too.
Oh, God.
That's not very nice, is it?
No.
No.
But really, did we expect any better?
Not particularly, no.
Of course they're going to be scumbags.
- The music industry as a whole.
The people who occupy these positions of power, especially in the sorts of music industry that actively goes out of its way to promote degenerate gangster behavior, of course they're going to be scumbags.
Of course they're going to be scumbags, and when they become high up scumbags, prominent and rich scumbags, they're going to help even richer scumbags do scummy things.
Are we really shocked?
Sad to say, this is how the media entertainment industry in America has worked for a long, long time.
And in the UK as well, we had our own Jimmy Savile, after all.
Let's not forget that there was the footage that came out of his mansion, one of his many mansions, I think he had two or three, being raided earlier on this year.
One thing that was interesting from this was that supposedly the Feds found...
1,000 bottles of lotion and lube, which 50 Cent has been making fun of him over.
When 50 Cent can hold the moral high ground over you.
Yeah, 50 Cent is on a redemption arc here.
He's endorsed Trump.
He's fucking P. Diddy.
Among all of them, to be fair, I don't actually know if Fiddy Cent has done anything wrong in his life.
He might have done, he might not have done, I don't know.
So he certainly seems to be taking the moral high ground over P. Diddy.
But of course he has been arrested by the Feds as well now, he's been arrested in New York, and he has been denied bail, the criminal charges against him.
...are that he's been charged with sex trafficking in transportation to engage in prostitution after a federal grand jury in New York chose to bring an indictment against him.
He's accused of running a criminal enterprise that consisted of his associates, employees, and the influence of his business empire to coerce, control, and abuse female victims.
This includes sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, and obstruction of justice according to the indictment.
Now of course within the rap industry there are a lot of other um claims against him including him potentially having murdered people at clubs or the very least shot and assaulted people at clubs and potentially having been involved in the murder of tupac shakur there is a rumor for a long time that he was the one who ordered it in the first place as some kind of west coast east coast beef that was going on between well everyone's Well, everyone's been implicated in that at some point, haven't they?
Yeah, I probably have.
And I wasn't even born when it happened.
So, carrying on, the indictment was unsealed on Tuesday morning and federal prosecutors alleged that he and his associates threatened, abused and coerced women and others around him to fulfill his sexual desires.
The indictment also includes forcing victims to engage in recorded sexual activity, which he referred to as the freak-offs.
So it's all included in this indictment.
So all of these different lawsuits which all seem to be pointing in the same direction are now also being pursued by the Feds.
I wish I had more to say on this.
I'm just getting a picture of someone who's allegedly very psychologically deranged and has been enabled by power and money in order to do things which are unconscionable really.
And so I hope that he feels the full force of the law as he goes to trial and that the right verdict is found.
Of course.
If he does turn out to be innocent, then I hope he gets a... Well, either way, I hope he gets a fair trial, but I would not be shocked.
Combs was arrested at a Manhattan hotel and his lawyer, Mark Agnifilio, called his client an innocent man with nothing to hide.
A thousand bottles of baby lotion.
I'm just getting a thousand bottles of baby lotion and that image of him beating a woman in a hotel.
Those would be things to hide, I would say.
Yeah.
We are disappointed with the decision to pursue what we believe is an unjust prosecution of Mr. Combs by the U.S.
Attorney's Office.
He also said that, you know, he's a loving and caring family man, but no one is perfect.
Which, no one is perfect is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, I think.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
Have you ever accidentally purchased a thousand bottles of lube, Josh?
You know, your hand slips when you're on Amazon.
It can happen.
You buy a thousand bottles of lube, then you accidentally beat your girlfriend, drag her down a corridor... How do you know what I did last weekend?
That was actually footage of Josh.
He blacked up for the occasion.
Just to throw people off the scent.
Allegedly.
No one would guess.
Allegedly.
Oh god, we shouldn't be laughing.
Also, I'm not going to play the audio of this because it's pretty horrible, but one of Diddy's former bodyguards has released what he claims to be audio of P. Diddy At one of these parties, and then says that he recorded it specifically because he heard what was happening and thought, I'm going to make some money out of this.
So, doing it for only the most pure of reasons.
We've got the court sketches.
I think this is being a little bit flattering to him because we also have a photograph of him after the arrest.
Did Picasso do the eyebrows?
What's going on there?
Well, it doesn't seem entirely accurate to me because here's his arrest photo and I'm glad to see that...
Jakob is back, boys!
Finally, he returns.
And I mentioned that he's also been rumoured for a long time to have, you know, called the hit on Tupac.
Well, the Feds are now collaborating with one another and secretly liaising with a Tupac Shakur murder prosecutor to exchange information, which may turn up something on that.
Is it really that secret if it's been reported in The Sun?
Yeah, that's always a good question when you hear these things.
That's just a very bad report on The Sun's readership these days.
He can keep a secret.
So for some reason the murder of Tupac Shakur has been something that people have been questioning for years.
Who did it?
Who really did it?
He was a gangster, so, I mean, gang activity does that.
But imagine if as well as Diddy potentially going down for his alleged criminal activities, it then turns out that the rumours that he killed, well, he got Tupac killed as well, turn out to be true.
So, yeah, we'll see how it develops, but that's a little update for everybody.
I'm sorry that you all had to sit through that, because it's pretty horrible reading.
Pretty grim.
There's a very interesting case, though, isn't it?
In that, I reckon comparing this to the Epstein case and how it goes forward and the differences between the two, it's going to be very revealing about, well, because, of course, the music industry and the sort of elites that Epstein was involved in, are sort of very different tiers of the sort of elite hierarchy, aren't they? are sort of very different tiers of the sort of Within the media sphere, I wouldn't be shocked if there's a little bit more crossover.
Well, there may well be, yeah.
Overall, because you know that all of the Hollywood elites all support the Democratic regime.
They basically act as an extension of the Democrat party apparatus, so I wouldn't be shocked.
I wonder who P. Diddy was voting for and donating to.
Just throwing that one out there.
I think we can guess.
What does P Diddy think of Haitians in Ohio?
Maybe he was donating to the Libertarian Party.
Oh no, now you've got to support him, Josh.
I do not support the Libertarian Party, how dare you?
Yeah, they chose the rubbish one, didn't they?
Chase Oliver, yeah.
Recently, Nigel Farage did an interview with Stephen Edgington, who is very good.
He appeared on our election coverage.
He did indeed.
Lovely chap.
And he asked him about mass deportations.
And let's listen to what Farage has to say about this.
And then I'll be going on about How it's possible, how it can be done, my plan of how to do it, and also giving you a case study, particularly a profile on Somalians in Britain, for why there's a good case for it in the first place.
Because there are certain people from certain places that clearly do not contribute to the host nation.
We're talking about the Bermalian social housing?
Yes.
Yeah, good.
So here we are with Farage.
I'm not going to get dragged down the route of mass deportations or anything like that.
Do you support mass deportations?
Well, if people come illegally, they should not be allowed to stay.
Simple as.
Simple as.
And the only way you're ever going to solve the channel.
And boy, have a look at the last three days.
500 odd on Friday, 800 on Saturday, nearly 300 yesterday.
I mean, the numbers are just exploding.
You know, these young men that are coming.
And unless they know that number one, they'll never be granted refugee status by coming via this route, that number two, they're not going to stay, they'll keep coming.
It's dead simple.
No matter what you do to the gangs, I mean, you could give these gang members life imprisonment, but the more people are going to step in to the gap because of the money involved.
I mean, look, think about drugs.
However big a sentence we give to drug dealers, there's always somebody else.
Let's tip the head off this a little bit.
A lot of this was talked about yesterday.
Major fault line in British politics.
Speak to the House of Commons.
Can you just pause it for a moment?
Of course.
That argument that he used, well, somebody's always going to fill in the gap, aren't they?
There's a man who runs a country in Central America named Bukele who has an amazing idea that turns out that if you do just lock all of them up and then if anybody else pops up to fill the place, you lock them up as well.
Eventually, you run out of people willing to get locked up for no profit.
Yeah, it turns out if you make the incentive to commit crime much, much weaker by making the punishment outweigh the profitability of it, you know, perhaps if you're in a sort of criminal gang where you're using lethal force and ferrying across class A drugs like heroin and things like that, I think there's a case for the death penalty there, isn't there?
I would say.
And so the notion that being alive or not is not an incentive to not do these things is strange.
Like they're standing at the gallows and they'll go, haha, joke's on you, someone'll just take my place!
Aside from the human trafficking element, there's also the persistent myth that the people coming across on the boats are refugees, or at least attempting to claim refugee status.
A large number of them, if they're caught once they're in the UK, try to claim asylum.
But most of the people who are trying to claim asylum or refugee status can do so from France already.
And if you wanted to make the journey across and turn yourself in, so to speak, in order to claim asylum or refugee status, the ferry from Calais to Dover is £30, as opposed to what these people are doing, which is paying many thousands of pounds in order to enter the UK legally.
They're actually not hoping to claim asylum.
They're hoping you'll never catch them.
They're hoping that they'll get away, be able to travel across country.
They'll either be met by family who've already made it across here, whether legally or otherwise.
They will be parachuted into an ethnic enclave where they'll be able to find work because they're amongst their own people.
without coming to the attention of the authorities and this is also why this is big business within the UK as well because the people who are hiring these foreign migrant workers are not going to pay them the UK living wage because they're not going to have any paperwork they're not going to have any documentation and you'll find that actually businesses such as these these dark kitchens you know Deliveroo kitchens or in fact Deliveroo and Barbershops.
And barbershops and things like that.
We covered one that actually happened in Swindon a few months ago, didn't we?
Yeah, that's right, they were making fake IDs for them to work in a barbershop, weren't they?
Yeah, and you're absolutely right, they were being housed in the floor above the barbershop and they were being forced to pay through the nose to rent out the chair that they were using as well, so it was a circular economy within that one shop.
People have less of a sense of disgust over this because it's not, say, Chinese sex workers being trafficked across and then being told, you know, to pay us back you have to work in whatever dodgy massage parlour or whatever.
Sorry, the politically correct term is whore.
Sure.
The illegal side of it I don't necessarily want to focus on, because of course the illegals have got to go.
I mean, I feel like most of the British right is on board with this, right?
Even some of the wets on the right.
Uh, going along with this.
But more generally speaking, I want to set up a blueprint for all countries to do mass migration.
Because I think that there is a good case for it.
We don't need to get bogged down in the weeds of who's doing what and why.
It's our country.
We can do what we want with it, in my opinion.
And to sort of...
Explain Farage in the interest of time.
He says it's impossible to have mass deportations But then he says we've got to stop the illegal migration and he says it's poli- then qualifies saying it's politically impossible So what I think he's doing and he also says about how if he agreed to it It would follow him around for 20 years.
I think what he's potentially doing here is one of two things.
He's either saying one I don't want to alienate my voter base who do want this and And so I don't want to be seen as not saying it but I'll say here's why I'm not saying it.
Or two, he's trying to be, trying not to invite controversy so he can move you over to Lindo.
The difficulty exists within the parliamentary system now.
He's an MP and so I do understand that he's got to exist within the acceptable range of conversation.
No.
In his own mind?
No.
Well, perhaps, but the fact that he's an MP gives him way more protection than he had as the leader of a party with no seats.
In fact, you know, he can't be fired by Keir Starmer unless he calls another general election and he's not going to do that at a period where he's at his lowest ever popularity.
And so really Farage should be leaning into this.
You know, you look at the wave of support for similar policy across Europe.
You know, I'm thinking of Poland, of Italy, Germany, etc.
And what you're seeing is that it's becoming popular and then it comes into the collective consciousness of the public.
You know, when you have teenage girls dancing along and smiling to Ausländer Raus on TikTok or whatever, it shows that it's become something where there's a kind of status associated with it.
And so, really, all it's waiting for is for him to embrace this moment and go, yes, mass re-migration, and suddenly the surge of support will actually be huge.
This is absolutely true, but Farage has always, always been afraid and tried to evade the accusations of racism and he probably sees mass deportation as a potentially racist policy.
Farage is not the point of discussion.
This was just a jumping off point.
And so yes, he's alluded to these things, but I think that there's some debate about whether he's silently in support of it or not.
Who knows?
I don't know what's going on in his head.
I'm sure lots of people will have an opinion.
But we've been talking about mass migration for a long time.
Here's an article from Beau of June of 2022.
Mass re-migration is inevitable, which I wholeheartedly agree with, very much so, and also it's worth mentioning we do have a magazine if you want to support what we're doing.
Please buy this magazine, it helps us keep going because we're of course funded entirely by our audience, and so if you buy this wonderful magazine which has lots of good writers in, like Carl Benjamin, you might have heard of that guy, Dr Nima Parvini, academic agent, Morgoth's Review, Dr. Charles Cornish-Dale, that's Roerich Nationalist, Marcus Follin, Dave Green, the Distributor, Stefan Molyneux, to name a few.
So there's some great stuff in there, there's some other people in there as well, as a bit of a surprise, and it's only available to buy for a limited time, along with some of the merch as well.
We've got Associated Islander merch that's only available for a couple of weeks, so get it while you still can, because it will be gone, and we'll be moving on to the next issue.
But anyway, with that out of the way, I wanted to have a quick look at one ethnicity in Britain specifically to use as an example of why these sorts of things are inevitable.
And it's worth mentioning the Somalis, you know, pretty unfortunate group of people because, you know, one of the most dangerous countries in the world, Somalia.
And yes, I'm sure Carl will want to make me emphasise the point that not all Somalis are the same.
You know, judge everyone individually.
You know, Conor's working with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is Somalian, and she's supposedly on the side politically, according to Conor.
And so, you know, lots of people are different.
I'm not talking in generalities.
However, if you look at social housing, Look at all the different ethnicities and who is taking up social housing for those unaware.
This is sort of housing owned by local councils, you know, the local governments and then rented at a lower price to people.
You look at Somalis and there you go, 72% in social housing in Britain, which is ridiculous.
You know, we're importing people over, supposedly to help the economy, which doesn't make sense.
And yes, they're not helping whatsoever.
This is ridiculous.
Massively over-represented compared to other people.
You've also got Jamaicans and Ghanaians and people like that who are over-represented as well.
But even compared to Jamaican Somalians are over 30% more.
Exactly.
And look at the Aussies.
Noble Aussies keeping this country upright on their backs.
Exactly and so things like this obviously this is costing taxpayers a lot because this is subsidized by Taxpayers and then you look at things like qualifications.
So the black line in these graphs is the the sort of rest of England and Wales and the blue bars are the Somalis so no qualifications Massively over represented here for no qualifications and then you get to the higher level qualifications Some of the younger people tend to you know, keep to the average a lot of students I think But you can see here.
They're not filling these high-level positions Because the native population far exceeds that of the Somalis So the notion that they're occupying important jobs is not the case.
Actually, it seems like they've got a on average, very low level qualifications, sort of entry level at the very least.
Serving Pratt.
It's also notable that a student who manages to come over here and get a student visa, once they've qualified, assuming that they manage to find employment, can bring across multiple dependents who are going to be in those upper age categories and will not have the qualifications, may not speak any English and are not contributing to society.
It's also worth mentioning as well, a lot of these low-skilled jobs in the future are going to be occupied by AI and machines.
Everything's going to be mechanised eventually.
And so why do we need Somalis doing these things when in a few years' time it could potentially be, you know, a robot pouring you a coffee in prep?
I wouldn't even go that far.
I would still say that we have an unemployment epidemic that's happened over here for native children, native young people I should say, who deserve the opportunity to take a summer job, who should be able to find work and to progress by getting a little bit of savings and then perhaps
Going to the career that they desire and absorbing and not to mention that pensioners as well who want a bit of extra cash on top of their pension should be able to have the opportunity to work in sort of low skilled environments where it's part-time affair.
Well, what they're doing, effectively, is just taking the jobs of our teenagers, and it's making it harder for people to get on, you know, into the job market, which is silly.
And also, if there are job vacancies, actually that's a sign of a healthy economy, because that pushes wages up.
It's not actually something that needs to be filled, and the whole paradigm is just wrong.
So here is their economic activity, so if you could zoom out a little bit there, Samson.
So they are less likely to be employed, 34.1% compared to 59.6% of England and Wales, this population, or self-employed, 8.5% compared to 11.3%, and more likely to be economically inactive, 47.1%. and more likely to be economically inactive, 47.1%.
47.1% compared to 24.7% of England and Wales.
And it's also worth mentioning the rest of England and Wales also includes other immigrant populations that are less productive than the native population.
So if we're comparing that against the native population that disparity is going to be even greater.
But look at this... So less than half of them are even employed because economically inactive is always one of the fun ways that the government tries to hide the unemployment rate.
So a lot of them are students, a disproportionate number.
About, I don't know, 22-23%?
Something like that there.
Which is just a drain, really, because, you know, we as a state put a lot of money into education and a lot of the time it doesn't actually pay off the statewide investment.
I'm curious whether or not, you know, how are they funding this?
Right, because if they're qualifying for UK student loans, then that's insane.
And you wouldn't expect that Somalia, being a very poor nation, would have a huge population of people with the funds to pay our foreign student fees.
Well it's obviously money that's been coerced from the native population to pay for these people to go to university.
Or just printed.
Yeah, all that.
But either way, it's pretty obvious to me that they're not contributing their fair share economically.
And in fact, you can see that pretty starkly.
Here's OBR data here.
So low wage migrant workers in their lifespan never contribute to the economy whatsoever.
There's no point in them being here.
I mean, even sort of, you know, Your average UK resident, they sort of drain for a little bit, and then they contribute in their working life, and then they're a pensioner again.
That's bad enough as is.
We don't need people who are just dependents the whole time.
You know, even your sort of average wage migrant worker, they work... This is of course not including their education years, so we're assuming they come over educated, which isn't always the case.
So there might actually be another dip here.
You know, they contribute and then in retirement, for some reason, they stop contributing at 92 for whatever reason.
That seems a bit strange.
Yeah, I'm very curious about why the statistic on this graph actually starts at 25 for the migrant workers.
You know.
I know.
You know why.
But it's obviously going to be well below, isn't it?
There's going to be much lower than simply the line here.
So the only case where it's economically beneficial is the high-wage migrant worker, which Somalis obviously don't occupy because we've looked at their level of qualification, we've looked at their economic contribution.
I've also looked at the areas in which they're working in.
I think half of them are in low-skilled employment, which is this one, where they never contribute.
This is the other thing which isn't really represented on this graph.
You've got the three variants of migrant worker but the actual population densities within each of those isn't represented.
Yeah I think a lot of them are weighted towards the lower end.
And the difference between EEA and non-EEA migrants.
That's European Union.
And also starting them all out at zero when they're at 25 years old is also Not very accurate, yes.
But even with this data, we can make a pretty resounding conclusion about, well, hang on a minute, if they're not highly qualified, they're not bringing anything to the country.
It is obvious that this is the case.
And let's go to Denmark.
If you're a high-wage migrant worker, how even at 100 are you still putting into the system more than you're telling?
Yes, it's a bit silly.
Ridiculous.
Anyway, going to Denmark because they collect very good data.
This is a quote from this article.
Male Somali descendants, even when the figures are adjusted for age and family income, are convicted of violence 3.6 times as often as the average man in Denmark of the same age and family income.
So you know how the left loves to say, oh well, it's not about culture or ethnicity, it's about poverty.
Well, even when it's adjusted, they're 3.6 times more likely to be violent.
You don't adjust it for poverty, then it's probably going to be even more.
And I don't think it matters if you're being assaulted, whether that person is rich or poor.
You know, the punches still hurt the same, right?
The stab wounds still hurt.
It doesn't matter.
I don't care.
I don't want any criminals in the country.
Any way of solving it is good for me.
This has finally um oh actually I've got this as well um so the Danish data sorry Josh is taking the whole well Pinochet was technically a libertarian tract is that how you're justifying it to yourself something like that but anyway here's some more Danish data um so look at that Somalia right at the top of violent crime conviction there after Kuwait Tunisia and Lebanon then Somalia And if we scroll down a little bit, here are the European countries.
So look at how much less prone to violent crime Europeans are compared to Somalis.
So it's basically the Middle East and Africa are overrepresented.
There are some other countries as well, Asiatic countries.
There are also countries like Yugoslavia here, which obviously don't exist anymore.
They don't understand us.
They don't want to understand us.
They won't integrate and they commit crime.
Yes.
So they cost us lots of money, they don't really contribute to our society, they don't integrate, and they're being violent towards us.
I think that's good enough reason to send them home.
And I think that lots of people are now starting to realise, this is a YouGov poll, a recent one, this was from the 9th of September 2024, do immigrants from Somalia make a positive or negative contribution to life in Britain today?
And Now, 37% think they make a negative contribution, which is pretty high relative to the other ones.
I think the next best one is I don't know, which, you know, fair enough.
Not everyone is, you know, trawling through ethnic crime data.
Or watching this podcast, but they should be.
They should be.
But a positive contribution is only at 18% and that's got to be what your average Labour voter, your sort of die-hard left winger, right?
But the rest is, you know, I don't know or obviously it's negative.
Which is true!
And I have some solutions to this and I wanted to talk about how to do it because we talk about all the problems, we don't talk about how to solve it.
And I have a five-stage policy proposal solution here that any government, doesn't have to be Britain, can implement and I think will solve the problems with mass immigration that we're getting all across the Western world.
And do please let me know what you think of it, both people on the panel and in the audience.
So stage one, accept no asylum applications because the whole thing is being gamed by people trying to take advantage of our goodwill.
I think that that's fair enough.
We can pull the rug up say no actually people are taking advantage of us We're not accepting any new asylum applications at all I'm afraid it's been spoiled.
There are too many people Mocking us get legal migration figures to gross re-migration.
So, you know sending more people home than we're getting in by a relatively significant margin and No welfare for foreigners.
I think a lot of people are coming here for our generous welfare.
It really disincentivises people moving here if they can't then get free money from, you know, the subjugated Anglos.
Mass re-migration of all foreigners with criminal convictions either domestically, as in in Britain, or abroad.
So there's no point having criminals from abroad here.
I think that's justifiable.
The United States Allegedly.
Doesn't let people in with criminal convictions.
At least, you know, if you're going the legal route, yeah?
Thank you, Palpatine.
So I think that this already has precedent, and first of all, what do you think of stage one?
Perfectly reasonable.
Okay, so stage two this is where I differ with a lot of other people I I'm concerned now with the subsequent stages Potentially getting some backlash.
So I want to make sure that there are sufficient things in place For people to not be endangered when the criminal elements of society Get angry that we're cracking down on them because whenever you see these crackdowns There is an initial spike where potentially people are in sort of in danger your average person, right?
So, I want to introduce capital punishment for murderers, sex criminals, that's, you know, ones that actually go out and do horrible things, I can't name what that thing is beginning with R, because it gets flagged on lots of social media platforms, and nonces, you know, practicing nonces.
I think those three, I think it's fair.
For all of society to give them the death penalty.
And we also need to rethink the severity of punishments.
I think that this is something that needs to happen because the punishments for certain crimes just seem far too low to my mind.
As we've seen with the Hugh Edwards case, there's been massive outrage over the fact that he only received a six-month suspended sentence and indeed another, I'm going to not use the p-word because that also gets flagged, but another nonce who had over a million, I believe it was, images And videos and things also did not receive any jail time recently.
It's ridiculous.
So this is the point at which we go what we define as cruel and unusual punishment perhaps needs a reassessment for this particular caseload.
Well it seems to me that people are more concerned about the rights of the prisoners than the population that you're meant to be using the justice system to protect.
Well first and foremost the prison system itself is a defence of the public against the re-offending criminal and the use of capital punishment is just an extension of that.
Exactly.
There are some people who cannot be rehabilitated ever.
Nor should they be given the option because they have violated our social contract to such an extent that capital punishment is the appropriate response.
And another thing that I think is really important, with crime as it is, give people the legal right to defend themselves.
So, in Britain, here is West Yorkshire Police saying the only fully legal self-defence product at the moment is a rape alarm.
So, I accidentally said the word, but never mind.
You can be like, I'm having this bad thing happen to me, here's an alarm.
That's not a defence!
This is our CCTV nation equivalent of, we're watching whilst you get assaulted.
You know, we might chase them up afterwards but it does nothing to actually deter.
So Americans I think are much better positioned in this sort of thing.
This is why I think actually America is much better off in recovering from lots of these problems as well as their much healthier economy than a lot of Europe.
But I think that lots of European countries have laws like this that view pepper spray use, pepper spray being carried by women to defend themselves against these people.
That is seen as just as equally punishable as carrying a firearm.
That is ridiculous.
I think that it's perfectly legitimate.
to carry these things for your own safety and I think actually I would like to see people be able to carry weapons for their own personal defense you know obviously following the US's lead on that one because I think it's important and in fact there have been petitions here's one make it legal to carry non-lethal self-defense weapons like I think it was pepper spray and tasers and the government response to this was
The government is taking determined action to make our streets safer but sprays containing noxious substances are dangerous and we have no plans to allow people to carry them for self-defense.
They're so supposed to be dangerous.
Yes.
The government here is saying we're going to continue to import thousands upon thousands if not millions of foreigners who are more likely to commit this on the native population and we're more worried about their health than yours.
That's what is effectively being said here, and I find it infuriating.
So moving on to stage three, this is a very important one.
Disassociate with any supranational organization that would interfere with lawfare.
So things like the United Nations have the 1951 Refugee Convention, which prevents countries from deporting or returning refugees to places where many of them might face danger, which is ill-defined.
You know, they talk about, oh we're worried they might be tortured for their crimes, And the Pakistanis pull this one out like I've been convicted of sex crime and I'm worried that I might be tortured if I get sent back to Pakistan.
Boo-hoo.
You shouldn't have done it.
Oh, this was one of the arguments they were making against the Rwanda plan as well.
Not that the Rwanda plan was ever meant to work, but the whole point was that, well, Rwanda might be dangerous for them.
But there are lots and lots of these supranational organisations, NGOs, things like that, that will try and interfere, and of course the UK as well, as a specific example, remains a member of the Council of Europe, even though we left the EU, because it's a separate thing, and that has the European Convention on Human Rights, and Article 8 has the right to a family life, and so lots of people can say, but I have a family member in this country, and I don't want to be separated from them.
And this can be basically used against us.
And there are lots of these articles in these supranational organisations that are basically used to subjugate the native populations.
Also, domestically, we have the Dubs Amendment, which allows refugees who have been granted asylum to bring their entire families.
Which is ridiculous.
Which just means that they act as anchors.
Yes.
So we need to leave all of those to make it possible.
Stage four.
Allocate funding to hire staff to enact mass re-migration.
Find the illegals already here, every single one of them, and deport them all.
Mass re-migration of all foreign financial net negatives, which is the vast majority from my reading of the data.
Send back all who have claimed refuge here if their country is not currently at war.
And this is specifically women, children and the elderly who are not problem cases.
Young men, even if their country is at war, should be sent back.
Why do we want people who fled their country in its time of need?
We don't want cowards.
Thank you.
That's what those men are.
They're not refugees.
They're cowards.
They didn't fight for their country.
They didn't make it a better place.
They fled.
And women, children, elderly can stay until their country is safe and then we can send them back.
They're not the ones causing problems.
And then stage five, we carry out trials of those who imposed this on us in the first place.
We were never asked.
We voted against it at every given opportunity.
This is a crime against the people of Europe and North America and people should have to pay for it.
I think that that is perfectly reasonable in my opinion.
What do you think?
Yes.
I also think that at the end of this process, abolishing the concept of dual citizenship and thus incurring a much larger cost, essentially, both spiritually and
as well as physically essentially to become part of us is there and that's possibly the only way to become a citizen from a foreign nation is through marriage that would also be an option that's there with of course a new set of laws about how people get married you know to avoid the green card situation in America but other than that what you said sounds pretty reasonable as far as I'm concerned and I'd be happy with that Yes.
Well, thank you.
What do you think, Harry?
Will you be standing at the next election?
No.
However, I think that if we refine this blueprint, we figure out all the kinks, and we just say, this is what we want, and we won't be happy until we get it, and keep on hammering at home, it's at least something tangible to say, this is what X amount of people want.
Realistically any party that claims to be for the protection of Britain and regenerating the country into something that can call itself great again should be taking those kinds of policies and using them as a blueprint.
But thankfully there are lots of parties across Europe, and potentially North America as well, that may well be able to push this sort of thing, right?
You know, America at least has the capital punishment and the self-defense side of things, the other stuff not so much, but you see Trump assume office, perhaps these sorts of things might start happening.
So there is potential.
I don't see it necessarily coming anytime soon in Britain, but elsewhere I can see it catching on more.
But I think talking about the concrete ways we can do it makes it seem a lot more possible, because people saying this is impossible, this is an insurmountable task, no it's not.
There are things that can be done to solve this.
There's also precedent, you know.
India did re-migrate over 100,000 of the British when the Raj collapsed.
Well, Iran is about to re-migrate 2 million Afghans, sorry.
Eisenhower, with what, less than a thousand people, with Operation Slur, which I can't say, managed to get two million people out of America in the fifties.
Well, there we go.
And that's when technology was much more primitive.
We have much better technology for clearing them out these days.
It is possible.
There we go.
Fabulous.
Right, I shall give you some technology here.
Marvellous.
And a mouse.
And a clicky button.
I do have a bunch of chats to read, actually.
Indeed.
Whilst you do that, Samson, can you scroll down to my notes on... there.
So, statistically, 9 out of 10 people... Oh, I can't read that out.
That's rude.
They're just like four out of five people enjoy democracy.
I've seen that one going around where it's the decimation where the Romans are beating one person.
Sorry, listen to this.
750 Immigration and Border Patrol officers and investigators got over a million people out of America in the 50s just using a bunch of jeeps, cars and buses.
That's how easy it is!
Frednaught says, uh, Josh, just call it 4C Funtime.
That gets around the census.
Yeah, but it makes it sound so juvenile.
Um, does anyone have the 7-8 process for, uh, re-migration that Eric Zimmor created?
Uh, one of the points was 90% tax on Western Union transfers of money to African Asian nations.
Great incentives.
That's a good idea, actually.
Yeah, that's not a bad one.
The Chinese actually have that on taking money out of the country, which does the same sort of thing.
Speaking of which, I would also prevent foreign ownership of any of our property.
That's also a good one as well.
I'm afraid I can't read that one, Dogbreath.
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That makes you gay and under contract.
Okay.
That's a reference to the Law and Order clip.
Okay.
So what's the story with this guy?
Did Carl go for Warhammer 40k and get himself a juvenile treatment?
I believe they're referring to me there, because every single time I'm on this podcast someone says, is that Karl's clone?
Has Karl gone and got some sort of radical surgery?
We personally, me and Karl, don't see the resemblance.
You see man in beard and you assume same guy.
That's why I can say that.
Yeah, I don't really see it to be honest.
I don't see it either.
No.
So the last Russian says, I can confirm Mark does not work for the FSB.
So there you go, your name is cleared.
Excellent.
And then another one, I think this P. Diddy fellow has a way of convincing these immigrants to leave.
I hear he can do one simple trick involving drinks and a camera.
We're not going to put him in charge of the task force.
No thanks.
There are some lines that even we won't cross.
Right, we're going to talk now about what I'm calling the over-diagnosis epidemic.
It's this concept that the current state of the country has led to an overreach of the therapeutic state.
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But just to let you know that I have spoken about the mental health epidemic and really what we've been dealing with over the course of the last 50 plus years really with a society that's becoming more and more abstracted.
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All right.
So we have this idea of a general mental health epidemic in the UK.
It's something which is pretty uncontroversial.
It It happens that a lot of people are talking about it.
Almost every single influencer has got their own mental health story that they've got going on.
Businesses are talking about how people are taking mental health days.
Some people are saying it's really hard to hire people actually because they want sort of Fridays off because it's a difficult time for them.
And really the number of conditions that people have has ballooned over the course of particularly the last couple of decades.
But the amount that we take this seriously is the problem really.
A lot of these things are sort of general anxiety or depression which are really a disservice to people who have very serious conditions.
Unfortunately, the government itself has come under fire for not allocating enough resources into mental health, which I think is a bit of a silly statement.
I feel like it's already allocating quite a considerable amount into it.
It also seems strange that if there's an epidemic going on, the notion of putting more money towards a problem that seems to be very much entrenched and societal, if the numbers are to be believed, That wouldn't necessarily fix it, would it?
No, I mean throwing money at a problem is not an issue but really our society is sitting in a state of diagnostic decay at the moment.
We're very much inward focused rather than outward focused and the places in which we place our money as a nation, so to speak, speaks to kind of the societal rot that we're dealing with because we've got a lot of fixation on either problems which are much larger than us
um you know whatever anyone individually thinks about the concept of the climate crisis uh our country as a whole contributes so little to um you know what's considered the big bad there the carbon emissions that Our attempts to change that environment are actually very little impact on the world.
Whereas we have people who have no jobs, we have a mass migration epidemic that's causing overpopulation, we have a general housing crisis where no one can afford anything, we have a wage stagnation where we are in a position where wages haven't increased for over a decade.
So in real terms that is inflation obviously accounted for.
So having a focus on mental health feels like it's an aside where people are trying to come up with a justification for why everything's so bad.
You know, why am I miserable?
Well, this person, you know, from BetterHelp, Here's one of my favourites.
I have a chemical imbalance in my brain.
are a very dodgy site which don't ratify their therapists.
You know, my therapist from BetterHelp is saying, "Oh, actually, I've got generalized anxiety." Or, "I have something like ADHD, which means that I can't concentrate at work." - Here's one of my favorites.
I have a chemical imbalance in my brain.
That's a nice nebulous one, isn't it? - Or just a NT, NNT, so non-neurotypical.
So that comes up a lot as well, the concept of neurotypicality, which is like, is anyone truly normal?
That word came in when I was at university.
People started using it and sort of they said, oh yeah, by the way, some people use this word neurotypical.
And they sort of weaseled it in.
But it seems strange because it's basically trying to suggest that, on the one hand, you know, saying that someone's not normal is offensive, but also saying that actually there's a very obvious neural way that you're meant to be.
Which is a contradictory statement.
To agree with you, Mark, I would say that if you were to track on a graph accurately the moment in which society as a whole, post-war, began to be governed worse and people's material rewards for the work that they put into their lives began to decrease and decrease and decrease and the quality of life began to degrade as it has and then the explosion of mental health diagnoses, I would imagine they start at roughly the same point.
Well, interesting that you say that.
There's a phrase, the therapeutic state is a phrase which was coined back in 1963 and it basically says that psychiatry and psychology are connected with that and government merged together leads to the therapeutic state in which disapproved actions, thoughts and feelings are repressed through psychomedical interventions.
And we see the fact that we have a very, I would say, dysgenic approach to dealing with people's dissatisfaction where a huge number of particularly young women are medicated.
Certainly we have huge issues where a lot of women are put on birth control in particular and there are hormone imbalances which come along with that for a lot of women.
You know, they say some of them are fine but almost every woman that I've spoken to who has taken it has had some sort some sort of adverse reaction.
- Anecdotally on that as well, I've spoken to a lot of women who say that the kind of men that they're attracted to on and off birth control are polar opposites.
- Oh, that's not anecdotal.
There's actual research for that that indicates that.
- Yeah, when they're off birth control, they're into manly men.
When they're on birth control, they're into soy twinks. - I see.
And then you also get this with young boys as well, sort of mass over-diagnosis of ADHD because traditionally masculine traits are now considered by the state to be a negative expression of humanity, essentially.
The funny thing is that masculinity more generally is being medicalised in that we see it in autism diagnosis.
I'm going to steal your thunder a little bit here.
But also with ADHD, whereby the education system, largely run by women, sort of medicalises men as faulty women, both in terms of the autism diagnosis and also in terms of attention span.
Men and women are interested in different things.
That's OK.
We have complementary roles.
Right.
But sorry.
No, sorry.
It's not just that we're interested in different things.
You know, fundamentally, the ways in which we cope with different things, traumas, if you want to use the overused term, are also fundamentally different.
There was a post by Royal Egg Nationalist the other day which was commenting on a woman who had said, you know, if men really wanted to be better members of society they would form therapy groups with one another and they would do all these different things and he just... Sounds bloody And he just pointed out that, yeah, you're saying that men would have better mental health if they acted more like women and less like men, which is the complete opposite of what they should.
Well, it's a failure to understand how men are, isn't it, as well?
And men are also sort of responsible for this.
We also can be prone to sort of make generalizations about women whereby we view them as faulty men, and vice versa, and I think that... Yeah, we're right, though.
See?
Vindicated.
But I think that the whole conversation, a lot of things are getting lost in translation and a lot of normal behaviour is being medicalised and I think that there's also an incentive for the pharmaceutical companies to do so because they're pushing drugs on people that don't need them.
I've made this point as well when I've said to people that you're not... I know everybody constantly goes on about how autistic they are, how autistic we are, how autistic men in general are.
You're not autistic.
You're an English man.
That's what you're supposed to be like.
That's what we've always been like.
We used to have a word for this and it was called eccentricity.
You know, you can be a little bit weird.
You can have a little bit of quirkiness to you.
That's fine.
Everyone's a little bit different.
But really what I want to get at with the reason that I brought the state into this is that the state is setting the desired outcomes and everything and every system in our society then reacts to what those desired outcomes are.
So we've already mentioned the education, the over-medicalization of boys, we've already looked at women needing to go into the workforce and so the over-medicalization of women to deal with their monthly cycles and things like that.
And there's also sort of now moving on into the criteria for even getting a job.
So we know that there are government guidance for programs which increase, you know, representation from people of different sexes, sexual preference, ethnicity, but also mental health conditions under this kind of guise of being an equal opportunity employer.
Whereas realistically this is all getting away from the real reason that you should be doing a job, which is that you are aligned with the goals of the company and doing your career, essentially.
When I was in the Air Force, the There was a great sense of camaraderie, certainly in the training phase, because everyone was there, even though they were going on to do different jobs in the Air Force, but we all had kind of the same aspirations, right?
And if you're in training, you're all trying to get through that to become an officer, right?
So, you know, if you're then suddenly hiring people and instead of thinking about how best they're going to fit the job, they're thinking like, can I either game the system by pretending I know several people who claim to be homosexual or bisexual in order to get bumped up the list when they were being hired?
Were they expected to prove this?
Exactly!
They're not expected to prove this, you know, or similarly people who claimed, you know, generalized anxiety disorder for instance, because they thought it would bolster their application.
It feels like a level of abstraction that kind of obfuscates, you know, the real reason that you're making decisions in life and in society.
What positions were they going for that supposedly having anxiety would make it the more employable?
More bizarrely enough, this is a prison officer position.
That's what you want, an anxious prison guard.
They're going to be very studious, you know.
Don't get near me!
Don't get near me!
I'll beat you!
Exactly.
Right.
Josh sees no problem with this.
Not making this a pure sort of men versus women thing, mental health as a general concept, you know, it's going downhill.
Well, it's of concern to everyone, isn't it?
It's clearly of concern to everyone.
But we have this chap here, so Calvin Robinson, obviously a friend of the show, has retweeted this, that the mood of the United Kingdom is that it's contagiously miserable.
This guy's just come back from travelling, he's talking about how everyone is sort of dour and dire.
I think he got back from Australia and I... We mutually know an Australian, a mad Australian bard.
We certainly do.
Who has explicitly told us that he never wants to come back to Britain because he hated it and it was miserable.
Very true.
And the reason that it's miserable is that all of our per capita outcomes have basically got worse and the people are searching for rationales and justifications because our sense of control, you know, there's a lot of research on control, And how humans basically need to feel a sense of control and a sense of progression.
And so when your wages haven't been going up, you can't find a girlfriend because everything's been abstracted through dating apps.
And your actual chances to date have become much worse because every woman can see everyone for 50 miles.
And vice versa.
And then you've also got, you know, the decreasing quality of life in general.
And people are saying, I'm never going to own my own home, never have my own space.
All of these things are like, I've got less control over my life.
And I've got less control over where it goes.
And at the end of my life, I won't have any control at all.
So ever so quickly, there's a really quite worrying study that had a rat in a bucket.
And I know it.
Yes, I know it.
Well, go on.
So basically, if the rat was left to drown, basically, it would swim for X amount of time.
If a person would then come along eventually and help it out of the bucket, it would stay swimming for longer before it gave up.
So just again, context on that.
The rat would last about 15 to 20 minutes if you just let it swim.
If you rescued the rat once, it lasted eight hours.
Which is a massive difference.
But to my mind, that shows just how essential to the mammalian brain a sense of agency is.
And hope, yeah.
um sorry samson can i just uh have control of my notes again so i can that's a horrible experiment it's an awful i've got to say awful awful experiment yes um but uh yeah so if we look at um Sorry, go back to my notes.
Having a distinct focus on mental health interventions as a state abstracts the priorities of government away from lubricating the wheels of industry and innovation and instead funnels money into diagnostic endeavours.
Although that is skewed in favour of net zero and climate stuff as well.
And really you can see government... oh we don't have the factoid there but there's a an image that I had of government grants where there's a lot of mental health funding essentially that's in there.
Different one.
That's fine.
Government grants.
So yeah, so you can find and see, you know, there's stuff for career fellowships and research innovation.
Notable that we're also coming to a period of the new autumn budget coming out.
So some of these have been deprecated and there's fewer grants overall at the moment, but there's a decent amount of stuff for research into mental health.
But really, and a lot of money that's available, whereas the money that's going into small businesses, the money that's going into, you know, community building, money for local councils so that they can provide services and events and things like that, all of those things which improve people's general standard of living and thus would bring up the morale of the nation and make people feel a bit better, that's not there.
So I thought that was interesting.
If we look at the difference in mental health statistics, if we scroll down just a little bit here, Samson, you can see one in four people will experience a mental health problem of some kind each year in England.
This is a really broad statistic, basically.
Yeah, I was going to say, I imagine there will be plenty of people out there that will not over the course of four years where it's you know going to be statistically probable they won't experience a mental health problem.
Well it's not just that it's the concept of the mental health problem as a whole is the problem because it's problematic as was famous to be said because this is all subclinical essentially you know this is people saying at some point in your life you'll feel depressed
And it's not just that people do feel depressed or whatever but people have lost lose the sense of scale and so they focus on the fact that they will feel depressed and they have anxiety about the fact they may feel depressed in the future if they get out of their depression and whereas the reality is is that life happens and Yeah, well one of the things that I found the most useful to tell people because you know being a psychologist and you know you're qualified in psychology as well.
Indeed.
You must get this.
People come up to you and ask you about things wrong with them and I say that the main thing, the thing that should give you hope is you're in control of your own mind.
You choose whether these things weigh you down.
You choose how to approach it.
You choose whether to feel these emotions.
And sure, it's difficult to get to the point where you have good control over these things, but it's possible.
And I think that it's actually within the grasp of lots of people.
And telling people those sorts of things sort of puts the ball in their court.
It gives them a bit of agency of, well, sure, things might not be good, but it's up to me how to approach it.
And all of a sudden, I would even expand that outside of the concept of personal incentives.
You know, it's about the people that you're dependent on and the people who depend on you.
And the fewer of those that we have in society, the worse, essentially, it gets because we are social animals to our core and the rise of social media and the rise of the therapeutic state, etc.
have basically damaged our, you know, one of the key mechanisms from which we derive value and meaning and purpose and happiness at the end of the day.
But what I want to say with this one in four statistic and the one in six common mental health problems in any given week, anxiety and depression, is that it takes the focus away from people who have genuine mental illness and deep disabilities.
So here's a breakdown of complex needs in the country.
There are approximately 1.6 million people with a complex disability in the UK.
So these are people who have dementia, these are people who have serious physical ailments, these are people Vote Green.
Vote Green.
People who have, you know, perhaps low-functioning autism and things like that.
And there's basically the prevalence of disability that is basically invisible, because those people are the people who are asking for, you know, say, the disability ramp up to the local shop or whatever, but they get lumped in with all the people who are going, I'm too anxious to go into work today, and so their needs aren't taken as seriously.
And I think even on the right, this is something where, you know, we fail these people in a way, because we tend to lump them in with essentially the epidemic of fad mental healthism.
As we go but Disabilities in the UK complex disabilities in the UK are actually increasing So if we look at prevalence here, there should be a scroll down we should be able to scroll down and see a Graph there.
So the number of people has increased from over the last 20 years from around 10 million up to over 15 million people.
And you can see the breakdown there.
You know, a quarter of those people are at working age, which makes sense.
A small percentage of those are children.
Again, they haven't had the time necessarily to have a deep injury or something like that.
But an awful lot of these people are of state pension age and really this is something we have to contend with as a society.
We have an increasing prevalence of people in real raw numbers who are infirm and incapable and it comes down to two things.
One is child mortality which has been decreasing very very steadily over the course of the last hundred years.
Hooray a nice thing!
Which is a nice thing, this is a nice graph to see, but of course in real terms, from a genetic standpoint as well, and with the adoption of the welfare state, this also means that more people are surviving with conditions that they then are heritable and will pass on.
I'm not trying to deny these people any kind of life at all.
I'm not a eugenicist in that kind of way, right?
It's more to do with the fact that these are very real cases of people that we're going to have to deal with, and the question I suppose for the panel is sort of, you know, how we deal with, you know, an increasingly dysgenic population.
As things go and I think the answer to that is probably that we need to breed more.
I think we need to get above replacement rate and high quality people need to be having lots of children.
So that's the kind of eugenicist you are?
That's the kind of eugenicist I am.
On your point regarding the child mortality rate and the complex needs, I do know and have known quite a few people over my life who have had complex needs, like siblings or friends of mine.
And the thing is, generally, they've had issues that I look at and think, that would be awful to have to live that way, it must be so difficult.
And I feel deep sympathy for them, but on a personal level, most of them, outside of those who've had deep, deep personality problems where they are quick to anger, some really bad cases of low-functioning autism, most of them have been very kind and good-spirited people.
Because, unlike the epidemic of the low-level anxiety that some people feel, they don't feel entitled to anything, because they understand that Where what they have in life is essentially a gift to them.
What they do have is something that they need to treasure.
And they tend to be very kind and good-spirited because of that.
And I really respect them.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would also tie in though to Josh's mass re-migration segment and say that a large number of children being born with heritable difficult diseases are coming from inbreeding which is a massive issue within our migrant populations because in-group preference is not something which goes away.
And in fact in some cultures, particularly Pakistani culture, it's something which is considered to be, you know, the best possible thing.
First cousins.
So that has led to a 15 point IQ drop in British Indians, for instance, and it's something which has led to, you know, a massive... I think it's six times more likely that a Pakistani child will be considered mentally retarded.
Off the back of the fact that it's an inbreeding issue.
36 times over represented to the rest of the population by the way.
Yeah, so important to consider that with there's extra benefits to mass re-migration.
The other thing is is pensioners of course.
So the life expectancy in the UK has gone up quite dramatically.
Again if we scroll down here a little bit there should be a table.
which shows yes that life expectancy at birth has gone up by almost five or six years over the course of the last three decades so we're also in a position where that massively increases people's risk of cancer and increases people's risk of dementia which is where the mental health element comes in because risk factors for dementia is aging
And again, if we scroll down here Samson, we should be able to see on page 5 That aging is a risk.
A little bit up there, I'm afraid.
Yes, so for people aged between 65 and 69, around two in every 100 people have dementia.
However, it doubles every five years, which means if you reach 90, a third of people have dementia, which is obviously a huge, huge issue.
It's a I keep wanting to use the word drain on the people around them but obviously these are people that people love, they're people who've lived for a very long time and hopefully have given a contribution to society.
Grandparents had it and it was awful seeing them degenerate.
But it's a problem that we have to contend with as a people, really, and to truly understand it.
I now can't scroll down through my notes again.
So really, in the interest of time, because I know we've only got a few minutes left, I'll skip ahead and I will say, you know, how are we as a society going to deal with the aging population and the lack of natural selection in it at the moment, if you have any thoughts?
So I do think that there are elements of natural selection already going on because, you know, generally speaking more successful people these days have more kids but there's this weird incentive whereby the welfare state also allows less successful people to have lots of children and the middle class sort of miss out by being responsible.
Yeah.
Actually, you've just got to make the situation optimal for responsible people to have as many children as they would like, and lots of things will sort themselves out.
I think actually, in many ways, lots of these problems will be fixed by fixing the economy first and foremost, because Economic and resource considerations are generally what well-thought-out, educated people consider when they think about expanding their families.
It's not the right time is always the put-off until, of course, you're at the end of your potential life cycle.
If you've got a lot of disposable income it's a lot harder to make that argument and therefore It's a lot easier to have a bigger family.
And I think that actually, if people's wealth per capita started going up, people who were working, who I see as deserving to have children, could do so.
Yeah, I think that's much more impactful than, say, one of Hungary's policies, which have come under fire for, you know, just incentivising children by saying, here, you just take money.
If you have children, we'll give you money.
And their birth rate hasn't been... I'll still take some money.
You would still take some money?
I'd still take some money.
I'm sure you would.
But I think that there's got to be some sort of selection pressure there for people of quality to have children.
And I think that that's an important thing.
If you're listening to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, you're a quality person.
You should go out there and have lots of children.
All right, I think I will end my segment there with a general view that I hope that this has been informative to people about the difference between people in the mental health sort of sphere, the people who are claiming a mental health disability and why they might be doing that, and the people with a real disability who we actually do need to look after and are an increasing burden on society
even though we do have a responsibility to them because you know they've helped continue and build the society okay well we have some more comments that have come in So, concerning dementia risk, do your part by helping yourself.
First, regular strenuous exercise is the strongest preventative against mental decline.
It's the only effective prevention as of now.
There are lots of other things that are linked to preventing it, but you are right that exercise is actually one of the best things to prevent it, and that's very good advice.
Resistance training is always good for you in all circumstances.
No group above the 25% income level has positive fertility even the top 10% only have one or two children Yes, I can also point out that I know lots of examples of quite wealthy people who have like eight or ten children and most of the people who do have lots and lots of children have the money to support them and Doesn't Elon Musk have like 18 kids at this point?
Yes.
Who knows, yeah.
I think that's the situation that everyone wants to be in.
That you can support them with a good lifestyle as well.
Mark, you're sounding like Ed Dutton about the child mortality thing.
I joke, I joke.
It was great to see you at the Skildings.
Amazing discussion on all of this.
By the way, quality segment today.
Very nice of you.
Mark, I checked and the only result that came up is that Elon Musk has at least 12 children.
At least.
So it could be more.
Strong.
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Basketweavers, or Clubweaves as it's now known, is pretty much a fraternity, although we don't technically impose a restriction on the membership.
And so if you want to have your own male-only version of Clubweave, then please feel free.
I have met one or two female lurkers.
The overdiagnosis of people is intentional.
Drug companies work hand-in-hand with governments to drug up the local populace to make them compliant while raking in money.
I mean, there's certainly a good argument for that one.
And Frednaught, finally.
I thought Carl called him Mini-Me because the cloning process couldn't get... Ah, that's mean!
Couldn't get Mark fat enough, because it was before Carl went on a diet.
You didn't have to say it.
Harry, being the strong man in the room, was able to say it for you.
The northerner with no filter, I prefer.
There you go.
Win-win, right?
The big northern monkey.
Let's get right down to brass texture.
I wouldn't insult monkeys like that, I'm afraid.
How fancy are you then?
Orangutan.
They're endearing.
Alright.
Don't they get their arses out?
What?
Which are the ones with their arses?
Those are baboons.
Baboons, that's it.
You as an orangutan might have the simple capability of using simple tools one day.
Oh, fantastic.
Anyway, we have video comments.
Going outside and touching grass has now been scientifically proven to reduce inflammation, reduce pain, significantly improve sleep, manage autoimmune disorders, and also help repair wounds quicker.
I think with the reverb you're adding to your voice there, I feel very hypnotised almost.
It's ASMR touch grass therapy.
It's effective though, I did feel relaxed.
And it's also good to know about reducing inflammation and stuff like that, that's nice to know.
Hey Dan?
You should read my novel, Final Flight of the Rhino-Go, because it involves O'Neill cylinders, and it involves space colonization, and even a technology you probably haven't heard of yet called bioplants, tokamaks, and polywells.
I really want to know what you've got to say about it.
Also, I really want to know what you think about my capital gains tax points that I made a couple of weeks ago.
I think we should probably play that one for Dan Samson next time he's on.
We'll pass that on to Dan as soon as possible.
I want to know about that V8.
But if you're asking, this is a big block 383 short deck, and my Dodge Polaris station wagon I'm restoring.
It's stock bore, 4.255, but we got some wear, it's gonna be off to the machine shop for an overbore.
I got 440 source heads, Eddebrock 7186 intake manifold, TTI 2-inch primary long tube headers, and a full roller valve train, with a Comp Extreme Energizer 230-236 roller cam, which is about as big as you want to go in the street.
I'm gonna take this up to 11.5 to 1, so we're gonna be pushing 500 horsepower and even more torque.
Which, with my 2600 stall factory converter, is gonna hit like a brick wall.
I promised Grandpa I'd restore his wagon.
I didn't say it'd be factory.
Oh, it's gonna be sick!
I really enjoyed that.
That's also one to play for Bo.
I hope you're telling him that you're putting that monstrosity in that car or else he's gonna get quite a surprise.
By the way, um, are we okay to run over a little bit, Samson?
Okay, no worries.
Okay, well, we can't carry on, I'm afraid, because he's got to set up Common Sense Crusade.
Okay, Samson's given us permission for a couple, okay.
We'll do a couple more video comments.
Sorry for not reading the regular comments.
Okay, regular comments.
Okay.
So, St. Benny Pax says, I'd love to apply for production admin position, but I doubt you'll hire Yanks.
Yes, it was a right nightmare to apply, you know, hire someone across the point.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to live here anyway.
If you can live in Swindon and are good at the job, then we'd hire you.
Sam Weston says, I have a psychology question for Mark and Josh.
What do you think triggers people having rather strange or even risky addictions?
As some examples, I've seen a man who eats glass from wine glasses and light bulbs, a woman who eats rocks, another woman who eats rubber tire shavings, and a woman who drinks petrol.
Oh, this is a very particular condition.
It is, yeah.
It's the same one where people eat the insides of cushions.
Sofas as well, yeah.
And fluff.
And I can't remember the exact name of the condition, but it's very specific.
But in terms of neurology, I can't remember whether or not it's linked to the same thing as OCD.
It is, there's an element of it.
It's also like a stress relieving thing for them in that the sensation of whatever it is they're doing sort of alleviates stress and it's like a coping mechanism, like they've not learnt to deal with a negative thing.
At least that was what I, I only looked at one specific case so it's difficult to make generalizations but these are normally quite rare and normally psychologists look at these sorts of things at a case-by-case basis because they're so unique to the individual who has them because they tend not to have a consistent format do we have time for a few more samson one or two okay all right i'll read some from my
So, Poods B says, we need to return to a time when rap artists were only involved in drug and gang crime and not kiddy fiddling and human trafficking.
Well, sad to say they probably were involved in.
Return to tradition.
Anyway.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly, yes.
Arizona Desert Rat also says, people keep asking me why don't you like rap?
This is why.
This type of lifestyle is celebrated.
Also, most of the music is terrible.
Yes.
True.
I don't enjoy it at all.
These are the questions we'll never be able to answer.
That's not that much of a puzzle.
I can tell you what happened.
is immigrant a Haitian moves in next door and now your cat goes missing did your neighbour eat it or did it just run away these are the questions we'll never be able to answer that's not that much of a puzzle I can tell you what happened did it run away into the migrant's mouth a non-zero chance Your cat ate the Haitian.
If you've trained it well, if it's a defence cat, it will eat the Haitian.
Does your Haitian immigrant look strange?
Such as the shape of a cat wearing a Haitian skin.
Jokes on them, I own a tiger.
Roman Observer, nice manifesto Josh.
Now you only have to fight against hundreds of civil service employees who would never implement such a common sense and pro-England programme.
Well, they wouldn't need to because I'd fire them all.
Well yeah, all of Josh's suggestions are predicated on the idea that by this point we're already in power and have basically fired the entire civil service.
The government would be a skeleton after I'm done with it.
Here's one for Mark.
Is there any correlation between the increase in children being diagnosed with ADD, ADHD, ODD and the government banning smacking and the removal of corporal punishment in schools?
I could not tell you whether or not there's a correlation between those two, although disciplinary methods and the rate of particular diagnosis would be an interesting thing to explore, so perhaps I'll write an article on that.
Also, what do we have here?
Neurotypical is as much a slur as cisgender.
I agree.
Pretty much, I agree with that.
Yeah, I think that's That's reasonable to say.
It is leveraged in that way.
It's like, oh, you're just not non-neurotypical.
You just don't understand me.
Yeah, I'm normal.
Like, yeah, I'm a normal.
Yeah, then when you say that you're normal, they go, well, there's no such thing as normal because they're offended at the concepts.
And you know that they created the cisgender flag and it was just a grey square.
They were like, oh yeah, it's definitely not being used as an attack because you think we're just all boring and terrible people.
We're boring, we're just carrying on civilization.
But anyway, it's time to end the show, I enjoyed that very much.
Well done, Mark, for holding up Islander.
Final port of call, bye Islander, otherwise we'll be very disappointed in you.
Bye now.
Thank you very much for watching, and make sure to tune in to Common Sense Crusade in about 25 minutes, and goodbye!
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