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June 7, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #932
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Hi folks, welcome to this pre-recorded podcast of the Lotus Seaters for Friday the 7th of June, We couldn't do it live because of some administrative things happening on the back end, so my apologies.
We won't have any comments today, obviously.
But I am joined by Kelly J Keane, otherwise known as Posy Parker.
Hi.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Well, thanks for having me.
Our pleasure.
So today I thought we'd talk about the Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak debate, Battle of the Managers.
Really looking forward to that.
How the pressure is rising in the British political climate.
And we will close off with Fetish Month, which is something I'm sure you don't have any controversial opinions about.
So let's begin.
Sunek and Keir Starmer had a debate on ITV recently, and it was so boring, there are zero clips of it floating around Twitter.
That is true.
But they did do a little bit of kind of faux anger, interrupting, didn't they?
It was so bizarre.
They did, they did.
I saw people on both sides saying Keir Starmer keeps interrupting, Rishi Sunek keeps interrupting.
But then when you actually watch it, it's just really tepid and boring.
Yeah.
It was like someone said to both of them before, oh, come on, like, you can do it.
Yeah, go on, like, show everybody that you really mean it.
Passion, passion, passion.
And then clearly they've not got any passion at all between them.
But they sort of pretended by saying, by just, yeah, slightly interrupting.
But it was more like, well, you said this.
Yeah, but you said that.
Oh, you're not going to do this.
It was, yeah.
Dull.
It was, but I thought there were some revealing things from it, actually, though.
Because, I mean, Sunak began in this sort of weird, inauthentic, scripted way.
He's obviously been told by whoever's handling him at the Conservative Party headquarters, like, no, you've got to say this, this, this, and this in this order in order to make people think that's the case.
But after a while, he kind of broke out of that and actually became a little bit more personable, whereas Keir Starmer started quite aggressively and condescendingly.
and was unnecessarily sort of arrogant.
But it's like, Kia, no one likes you, you know?
And so you come across as very, you know, high-handed and unapproachable, you know?
But quite actually dogmatic as well.
Yeah, but, you know, I think anybody that says that they would let their own relative die...
I was going to get to that.
I was going to get to that because, like, I'm not a fan of Cynic at all.
I spend most of my day ratioing him on Twitter.
But Starmer actually, I thought, came out looking really bad out of this.
Basically kind of psychopathic, weirdly just ideological.
He tries to present himself as just, oh, I'm just here to look at the facts and stuff.
But then when pressed on these things, he really comes down hard on bizarre lines, which I just...
Mad.
I mean, like, aggressively going after the rich is one thing.
So, you know, I'm not rich.
I don't care if billionaires pay extra taxes.
That's totally fine.
But there was this kind of undercurrent of, like, real resentment in Keir Starmer when he's talking about it.
Like, the rich have killed his dog or something, you know?
But there's a genuine sort of personal, like, no, I just really hate those rich people.
It's like, okay, Keir.
And this, I think, is revealed in him going after private schools.
Keir, private schools are something that people usually work hard to be able to send their kids to, like I did.
I didn't go to a private school.
My dad lived in a caravan for the first four years of his life.
I now get to send my son to a private school.
And really, I'm doing it mostly just to make my dad proud.
And so Keir Starmer being like, yeah, it's only rich people.
No, no.
Worked really hard, Keir.
Saved a lot of money.
I don't drive around in a Jag.
I send my kids to a nice school because they can have what me and my dad didn't have.
Yeah.
And so Keir Starmer being like, right, I'm putting an end to this.
Thanks, Keir.
Look, I totally support the idea of closing off all the loopholes, which means people that should pay tax actually pay tax.
I don't want Jimmy Carr taking advantage of his tax loopholes!
But you know, I think it's right and proper that, and it doesn't make sense sometimes, that actually if you can have a really clever accountant that you can avoid so much tax.
However, I don't see that it's a, I don't see it's a policy that's good for Britain to suddenly say, right, we're going to recruit a couple of hundred more teachers to deal with the number of people that will have to take their kids out of private school.
Six and a half thousand teachers.
I know, but in the grand scheme of things, that's how much we need now.
That's how many teachers we need right now.
And you and I probably both know that there's not enough teachers at schools we may send our kids to.
Yes.
Six and a half thousand is not going to cover the number of people that then need to pull their kids out of private school in order to send them to a state school.
And state schools, I'm just going to say it, they are more or less just crap.
So many of them, and in the issue that I talk about all the time, I've been into schools and there are teachers that barefaced lie about the indoctrination that they are subjecting children to.
So I think there's bigger issues at school than how much VAT a private school pays and I would be focusing on that if I was Keir Starmer.
And the thing, what I was saying when, you know, he's actually weirdly ideological about this is, no, we all have to have exactly the same education.
So, okay, Keir, but that's not going to improve comprehensive education.
No.
All that's going to do is reduce access to good education for a portion of the students.
Yeah, and he's speaking from a very middle-class household where they probably can afford help.
He probably doesn't clean his own house, which is fine.
I'm absolutely fine about that.
Employ a cleaner, that's great.
But you can't pretend that all things are equal.
If you send your kid to a state school, and the same as somebody in an inner-city estate sends their kid to a state school, they are not getting the same education.
And so I just think we need to look to more discipline in state schools.
I'd be more focusing on that.
So everybody gets a better standard in a state school, not making people with a relatively good education, although not that great even, coming into the state system.
I completely agree.
I mean, bring back the rod.
Totally in favour.
Because I'm not at school.
So he came across quite spiteful, actually, to me, in many ways.
But just on the other side, Rishi Sunak just came across like a man who's living in a delusional la-la land.
Keir Starmer's going to raise your taxes.
You raise my taxes.
Kirstein was soft on immigration, and then Rishi Sunak there talks about immigration.
Kirstein rightfully was like, you're the most liberal prime minister.
I mean, totally true.
Like the conservatives have a catastrophic record in government.
It's been the worst.
Well I think that I mean I don't want to keep going back to Starmer but I think for both of them what we deserve is a good government but also a really good opposition and we've not had either for a really really long time.
It should be it should have been easy over the last few elections for the Conservatives to lose massively and people didn't feel there was a good alternative and I still don't I don't think unless you're tribal I don't think there's any floating voter that is voting for something.
I think they're voting against something.
I agree.
And I think the turnout is just going to be the major issue and the main takeaway of this next election.
I mean, Labour are always going to have that sort of third of the electorate that's just, we vote Labour because we're natural serfs and our great, great grandfathers pledged an oath of allegiance to Clement Attlee or something.
I don't know.
You know, like there's, you know, there's some, There's about a third of the electorate that are just like that.
But like we saw in the by-elections, the Conservative vote just collapses.
It doesn't go to the Labour Party.
People just go right out and just won't vote.
And so the best I'm hoping for is the kind of delegitimisation of Starmer in power by the lack of turnout in the next election.
I'm not going to be voting for anyone.
But one thing I noticed, and I think this actually speaks to the problem of the legitimacy of the style of politics that we have at the moment, is the audience were not impressed with any of their answers.
There was very little applause from anyone in the audience.
There wasn't even boos.
There was just this kind of blank resignation of, oh god, it's going to be another five years, more of the same that began in about 1997.
And this, I think, is the main problem, isn't it?
Like, what we're looking at is not a conflict of visions, it's a conflict of how things can be properly best done.
As in, you know, the two different deputy regional managers have been brought onto the stage, and now they're going to argue the fineries of policy, but all of them are in exactly the same direction.
And neither of them represent leadership.
Yeah, they've got no personality and I think that is the fault of media and scrutinizing every single word and actually I think people are so desperate that now whatever anybody may think of Farage and even if you don't like him and I do happen to like him but even if you don't like him you can't say you don't know a little bit about him you can't you can characterize him You can talk about sort of how he is as a human being.
I don't think you can do that with many other politicians at all.
And those that you can...
Because I focus on this one issue, those that you can, sometimes you're like, oh, OK, so you're a really feisty kind of big figure and you think you can talk about this, but you're more likely to talk about the wrongs of a man brushing your knee than you are about a bloke getting his penis out in a changing room, a female changing room.
Men, you can get naked in men's changing rooms.
Feel free.
Unfortunately, we have to.
So yes, I think you're completely right.
And I think there's a reason that these sort of...
Anti-managerial figures get monstered in the media because this is the paradigm that we're in.
We're on a set of rails.
I mean, Liz Truss, I think, is completely correct when she says, look, really, it's the sort of quango industrial complex in the Bank of England that are in control of the country.
And therefore, just putting a manager in place to be the prime minister and the government is far more preferable to them.
Because technically, a party that did not follow this start of politics could win a majority and just repeal it all because parliament has the power.
And that's the fear from the sort of pyramid of I don't know what's called the Blairite pyramid, you know, where it's the NGOs, the activists, the media, then the quangos and then the person they installed to be literally Rishi Sinek installed to be the then the quangos and then the person they installed to be literally Rishi Sinek If someone could win a stonking victory in an election, then they could say, right, okay, that's gone.
I'm just undoing all of that.
And it won't be this election, but next election, it could well be someone like Nigel Farage, who would have the motivation to do it.
Well, I wonder if Labour get in, but don't get that many votes, but still get more votes than other people.
I wonder whether we would think about a different voting system.
I wonder if somehow, if they can benefit from a different voting system, maybe we could all benefit from a different voting system.
Maybe this will be the last election with first-past-the-post.
I don't think so.
I don't see why Labour would be incentivised to destroy First Past the Post.
It depends, doesn't it?
It depends whether the Tory vote, if the Tory vote is split by reform, which I think it probably will be, then if Labour have the majority of votes, as well as the majority of seats, which they may well, they would be, well we'll see, because if reform carry on, I don't know the maths behind it, but I just feel that we're at the end of this working We'll get on to that in the next segment, because I think you are right about that.
But I just don't see Labour having any reason to bring in proportional representation, because it's just going to cut their vote share down to about the 30% that it actually is, and therefore they're not going to have like 470 bloody seats, which they're probably going to win in the next election, however many it is.
So, you know, there's just no incentive for them to do it.
It'd be kind of suicidal, actually.
But anyway, yeah, let's get to the most interesting part, which was the talk of the NHS, actually, which is rarely the most interesting part of any conversation, because I'm so sick of the NHS.
Did you go out and bang your pots and pans from the NHS?
No.
No, of course not, because you're not a lunatic.
No, I think, yeah, I haven't really got any neighbours, so I have nobody to impress or to signal my virtue, to be honest.
I live on a housing, not an estate, but you know, I remember when it was happening, hearing like a couple of streets down, someone doing it, and I was thinking, oh, you bloody prat.
You know, now we all just know you're way too online.
You know, that's the problem.
You know, you need to get offline.
But the point being, from this, is that the lady hosting that, I can't remember her name, actually.
What's her name?
Julie Etchington?
Etchingham?
I've met her, yeah.
Does she think that women can have a penis?
She did a program years ago, like before anybody really knew anything about me, she did a program and we were on it and we were interviewed.
I can't even remember if I made the cut, if any of us made the cut, but she was very on the side of, but what about the poor man with his penis?
Can't he just get it naked in front of women?
She was a bit on that.
It was about transitioning kids and I think she was on the side of, we're evil, maybe we shouldn't.
And you were just like, no, not even once, for some reason.
Anyway, so she asked, well, look, the NHS waiting times are abominable.
About 12% of the country's on the NHS waiting list.
If one of your family members was on the list and dying, would you use private health care?
And Rishi Sunak actually, I thought, handled this quite well because he looked quite impressed.
I was like, yeah.
Keir Starmer instantly came out and said no.
I said, Keir, that's mental.
That's, again, really bizarrely ideological.
And I'm sure his mum was just like, Hello?
Like, are you really just going to let me die?
And Kim was like, well, it's for the NHS, mum.
You know, we can't sully the reputation of the NHS, even if you have to die for it.
And I think that really just highlighted the real problem with what I think his government is going to be when it comes in.
Dishonest, though.
I mean, that's dishonest.
I mean, you know, that's the thing.
Is it dishonest?
I hope it's dishonest.
I really hope it's dishonest.
Or he's a lunatic.
Well, I think this is what happens when you're tribal, right?
When you have to hold these ideological positions, you can't speak truthfully.
So you often sound insincere because you are insincere.
Well, you sound evil.
Well, I mean, this is the whole of the left, right?
And maybe there are elements of this tribalism in the right, but I don't meet them quite so much.
I do meet a lot of people on the left that are really tribal.
And I think to even not hesitate over that question and just go straight away, no.
So it's like, we always get asked, would you rather have a live daughter or a dead son when it comes to the whole trans thing?
For Keira it was like, would you rather have a live daughter, a privately healthcare live daughter or a dead daughter?
He's like, dead, dead, 100% dead, dead, let's book the funeral, dead.
It's just mad, isn't it?
It's such a mad response.
But I think it's revealing about Kira's character, because again, he tries to portray himself as if he's just a sort of sensible man, just trying to do the right thing.
But actually, when it comes to these issues, you know, he comes down very hard on an ideological thing, where it's obviously, this is divorced from reality.
Of course, you'd rather your mum live.
And have to use the nightmarish hell that is a private health service or, you know, sending his child to a private school or something.
But Keir is very rigid on these points.
And that concerns me because of the way that we've seen that he's governed his own party.
He's been actually really ruthless with his own party.
Yeah.
And that's concerning because, I mean, like, you know, I share no sympathies with Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn, but I actually think it's wrong for them to just be booted out of the Labour Party because Keir Starnes, like, they're part of the furniture.
Yeah.
And she must have been impressive, right?
Like, back in the 70s, she must have been... I mean, she did sort of smash through quite a lot of barriers.
It must have been, in a way, as a black woman, as much as I don't want to play identity politics.
I mean, I'm not saying that I'm very impressed with her in the last decade, but to do that to her, I think, is horrendous.
The thing is, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not.
Yeah, this was just the wrong thing to do.
And with Jeremy Corbyn, you know, they're such staples of the party that to then just come in and say, right, okay, you've gone and I'm not in any way remorseful or sentimental about this.
It's like, come on, kid, that's a bit out of sorts, isn't it?
You know, it's not on.
Yeah but then I think, I don't know, the whole, everything about him just feels like he just wants to get into power, he doesn't deserve it, he doesn't deserve to run the Labour Party, I don't know who does, well maybe he does deserve it, to be fair.
But he doesn't deserve the country, that's the point.
No, and he, so he used to run the, what was he?
Grand Prosecution.
Yeah, he used to run that and then he pretends that he doesn't know about violence against women.
I think he's got a poor track record there as well.
Yeah, but they're just so, he's so dull.
He's such a machine man.
That's the thing.
He looks like he's a machine doing machine calculations without any kind of human sentiment involved in any way, shape or form.
And I just, I don't want that person being in charge.
Cause I mean, I think that, It's entirely possible that Keir Starmer will look at people who are off of the approved progressive narrative and say, no, she just has to be sorted out.
Oh, he just has to be sorted out.
That person just has to be sorted out.
And I will ruthlessly and remorselessly do whatever it takes to...
Erase these people from public life.
I think he's that kind of person.
So do you think, right, so with hate speech, because Labour in opposition have been all up for kind of controlling our speech, do you think that's going to continue or do you think this has all just been a bit of a lie in order for them to stand against the Tory?
Do you think they're going to do it?
I think this is one of their true beliefs.
I think there's a reason that they're so committed to it and they really believe in hate speech.
But do you think he does or do you think it's the No, I really think he does, and I think...
I think the very notion of challenging it to him is so ludicrous that he'll put you in the sort of enemy camp by just saying, look here, are we sure that, you know, making sure a guy can never see his children again because he put some stickers is all right.
So, yeah, but the sticker was racist.
It's like, I don't care how racist.
It wasn't even though, was it?
Oh, it doesn't matter if it was.
Let's just assume.
Yeah, I agree.
The court admitted the stickers were factually correct.
Right.
But let's just assume, this is Sam Melia by the way if you're not aware, I don't care how racist the stickers were, A, he shouldn't be in jail for some stickers, and B, if he is put in jail, he shouldn't be prevented from seeing his children.
Come on.
If only he had just sexually abused children or downloaded child porn, he would have been fine.
He would have been fine.
He wouldn't have got a jail sentence at all.
Yeah, that is unfortunately true.
But I think Keira is very progressive on almost every issue and is committed to it.
I'm actually a bit worried.
Yeah, I am actually a bit worried.
I mean, hopefully he can prove me wrong by actually being a very genial and reasonable person when he finally takes power, but I just don't see it.
Well, maybe he'll break Britain so much that people will start to think about defending it.
Well, that's the only upside.
The only silver lining to the cloud is that when you're under a phenomenal tyranny, it tends to at least focus people's minds.
Do you think he'll be like Keir Trudeau?
Do you think we'll stop killing?
Do you think we'll kill loads of people like Canada under the guise of eugenics?
I don't think...
I don't know how bad it'll get!
The state have killed about 30,000 people, I think, in assisted suicide.
It's the sixth leading cause of death in Canada.
It's the government killing you!
Well, you've got to understand, healthcare's expensive, and if it's paid for by the taxpayer, we've got to minimise that.
Which is unironically why they do it.
Well, maybe we'll just have another Covid.
Get rid of loads of people, DNR.
Honestly, I would not be shocked if Keir Starmer brought in assisted dying, but I wouldn't be surprised by it at all because it's exactly this ideology that he follows.
Ideologically, there's no difference between him and Trudeau, so the question is just how exposed is he prepared to put himself on this?
Does he have a father that used to be in charge of a socialist country?
I think he might, yeah.
Have you seen the pictures of Trudeau and his purported father?
His father's got a long ugly face, Pierre Trudeau.
He's a very ugly man.
He's very long and Trudeau looks like a model, you know, and it's like, yeah, I think it's shaped exactly.
It's obvious.
Tell if someone looks the same, what you should do so you're not tricked by the way that your eyes will fill in the blanks is you have to tip their photos upside down and then you can see clearer because your brain doesn't make up all the details.
You can see and I'm telling you.
I don't even consider it a conspiracy theory.
If that were my son, I'd be like, You know, anyway, so the polls had Rishi Senek edging him out initially and then there's another poll where Keir Starmer edged out Rishi Senek afterwards.
So as you can see, everyone's like, well, I mean... I mean, if you stayed awake that long, I guess.
They're basically as bad as each other.
Yeah.
But we'll leave that there because it looks like we've got an impending tyranny coming and there's not a lot we can do about it.
And the people that you find interesting on the internet may disappear from the internet, actually.
But anyway, so let's talk about the rising political pressure in Britain, because I think that there is some.
Yes.
I can really feel it in the air when dealing with these things.
And I think it was Brought into sharp relief when Nigel Farage got milkshakes.
For some reason, Politics UK have got a pint of beer thrown in his face.
That's in Clackton.
It was in Clackton.
Oh, I didn't know about this one.
I thought the milk, so is there milkshake and beer?
No, it was just the milkshake.
It was just a banana milkshake or something.
Yeah.
And so, before we go on though, like, how do you perceive the sort of temperature of politics at the moment?
Well, I've obviously formed my own party and I'm finding it more difficult than I had imagined.
We've had candidates drop out because, I mean, one woman lost the lease on her business that she'd been in for 12 years because they found out she wanted to run.
What's the name of the party?
What's the goal of the party?
Because, I mean, you know, if it's the Adolf Hitler Appreciation Party or something like that, maybe I could understand.
It's worse, actually.
It's Party of Women, and this is the length of our manifesto.
It's basically no woman has a penis, no man has a vagina.
No such thing as non-binary.
Doesn't it sound like a manifesto?
That's it.
It doesn't sound like a manifesto.
That's our manifesto.
That's our whole, that's it.
It's just about, it's a disruptor.
That's what we intend to do.
We want to force, like Farage did, right?
We want to force people into having a position on whether or not they think women have penises.
and whether we should be talking about this crap in schools.
Yeah.
And we just want to sort of create conversations so that people know that they are being had.
I've met so many women all over the world, actually, who have no idea that their discomfort is justified when, like, women self-excluding from, like, their aqua fit.
And then all of a sudden, Janet turns up with a hefty bulge, and he's then joining their women-only aqua fit.
And so those women can't complain.
Or if they do, they get told there's nothing that can be done, so they self-exclude.
So we want everyone to know that you can say, actually, I'm uncomfortable, I don't like it, it's wrong.
And And you should be able to say that, and the more people that wake up who agree with us, because it's not like you have to convince anyone.
You've either got nutty tribal leftists who think that live and let live, except for women, they've just got to put up with blokes in their spaces, or you've got people who don't know that this is going on, or you've got people that do know, but don't know they can speak.
So that's the whole point of everything we're doing.
I've got to say, I've never met a leftist who ever took the approach of live and let live in any subject anywhere.
But women's space is obviously being one of those things.
So, I mean, all that sounded like to me is just a common sense approach to gender politics, which I think most people would agree with.
And so where are you and your candidates standing?
Well, this is a good question because they're all registering at the moment and we've really faced quite a lot of obstructive people at councils.
I don't know whether they're incompetent or they're doing it on purpose.
We've also got women going into councils to hand in their nomination forms.
Who've got pride flags, which I am wondering actually whether that is against the democratic process because they're political symbols and we are during this election sort of perda.
But I'm going to stand in Bristol.
I was going to stand in against Jess Phillips, but I'm now going to stand against Thangam Debonair.
Just gotta say, I am disappointed you're not standing in Birmingham Yardley.
I'm sorry.
You know, the funny thing though, if you'd done that, the media would have been like, why is she jumping to the misogynist's defence?
That's what they would have taken.
So maybe it's probably better for you if you go to Birmingham Yardley.
I mean, you've got more media attention in Birmingham Yardley.
Well, I just, look, I think I'll be overshadowed by Galloway, which is why I'm not doing it.
And I wanted to go for Angela Rayner, because she says men's rights are women's rights.
Yeah, well, she basically says trans women's rights are women's rights.
So I wanted to go against her.
But and Jess Phillips, I think there's a number of women in Labour who are like, oh, I'll say anything to anyone.
I'm afraid.
And then on this issue, they've been really silent.
And even the ones that do speak up are also.
Cowards when it comes to repealing the GRA which is essentially what I want to do.
I think that equality act is crap Yeah, I think that needs ripping up and we need to start again.
I think we need a men's act I think we need a women's act and I think we didn't need a disability rights act and then beyond that I don't I don't know what else I would kind of cover.
Well, why do we need anything else?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I said something the other day about I think we should be able to discriminate against men who call themselves women.
And you'd think I'd said I would like to take them all to camps and kill them all.
And I didn't say that at all.
I just I do think if a bloke turned up for an interview, And I owned a florist.
Yeah.
Or if he came and started work and he's Jeff and he's fine, and then day three he turns up in a dress and says, I'm Janet now.
I think I should be able to sack him, actually.
I think my customers would find it uncomfortable.
I think other staff would find it uncomfortable.
And if he turned up in a gimp suit, I imagine I would be able to sack him.
But even if he's a teacher, he's allowed to carry on in his profession, I would just It's insane!
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It is mad, so there we go.
So anyway, let's get back to Farage.
No, no, that's totally fine, I asked.
So Farage, I think, and yourself, and I've been in the crosshairs as well, emblematic of a heightened political tension because What all of the people who are receiving political violence, and that's what this is, what they all have in common is actually not necessarily the political platform, but it is opposition to the sort of hierarchy of Blairism.
Yeah.
Mentioned earlier.
Yeah.
And so if you find yourself on the outside of the inner consensus, well, you're targeted.
And that's what happened to Farage.
And so everyone thought, oh, it was a lady called Emily Hewitson that did it.
because this started going around.
Well, blondes all look the same.
Well, to be fair, facially they do look quite similar.
Yeah.
But I've met Emily, she's a perfectly nice person, and she is a big fan of Nigel Farage, and definitely didn't do this.
But as you can see, lefty accounts started going, "Oh, well, this is a PR stunt, blah, blah, blah." No, no.
This is just the stochastic terrorism that you have ginned up.
The woman herself was actually someone else.
Her name was Victoria Thomas Bowen, double-barreled surname, who runs an OnlyFans account.
Lovely.
Yep.
Guess which party she votes for?
Labour?
Yeah.
How did you know?
They love a bit of OnlyFans, don't they?
Yeah, how did you know?
She posts about this on Facebook.
Quote, vote Labour for the many, not the few.
So she's a Corbyn act.
And when asked why she did it, she said, because Farage is an arse.
And then added, he just is.
I don't know why.
Ah, brilliant.
Okay.
Wow, what an exceptional young woman.
Yeah.
Aspiration.
Yeah.
Aspirational woman.
She's very informed in politics.
But the point and the reason that she's done this is because she knows there's a large contingent of Labour voters who will sing her praises.
Because apparently you're allowed to do that.
I mean, it's Philip Proudfoot.
You can see his bio here.
I don't know if this is Charlotte Proudfoot's husband or something.
Oh, she's a genius.
She's wonderful, isn't she?
But as you can see, he's a lefty human rights type and he's England's Rose.
It's like, I think she might be a prostitute.
Sorry, he's human rights and he's championing somebody assaulting someone.
What a great man.
I'm for humanitarianism in Arab states.
Yeah, but not over here.
Well, he does say Britain as well, like accountability, humanitarianism in Arab states, Britain elsewhere.
And of course, I think it's a great thing when the political opposition gets intimidated by random members of the public.
I mean look, I've been subjected to violence myself, not in a political realm but just with people disagreeing with me.
I said I was going to go to Bristol today, which I did, and a couple of people were talking about milkshakes and soup, tomato milkshakes and stuff.
I mean, I think she should definitely be charged and something, you know, quite serious.
Someone said she shouldn't go to prison, but I do think it should definitely be a punishment that prevents other people thinking they could do the same.
100%.
I mean, Nigel Farage didn't take it great, to be honest.
He's been milkshaked before, and you can tell that this really affects him deeply, because he is a professional politician and has been for the last 30 plus years.
To him, this is very serious.
I think we should watch a bit of this, because it's his demeanor that I found most striking.
...in the face, fair and square.
Quite frightening.
Why does this keep happening to you in particular, do you think?
Because I go out and meet the public, nobody else does.
You know, what does Rishi do?
He gets a room with two dozen councillors or whatever it is.
No one goes out and does the Old Style Street campaign the way that I do.
And this is the risk that goes with it.
And, you know, I'll be honest, it is quite scary.
Well, that's the serious point, is that it was a milkshake and, you know, it's uncomfortable, but...
It could have been something more serious.
I know.
I know.
Is that something you think about?
It's a very tough question to answer.
I try not to.
Which is totally fair.
I've had stuff shoved in my face.
I've had water thrown at me.
And it could have been acid.
And actually acid is not exactly uncommon.
It's not like you never hear about that over here.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it used to be when we were young.
It never happened.
I don't know why the British have suddenly taken that up.
But this is the point.
It's actually an evil thing to do.
It's anti-democratic.
It's evil.
And everyone knows that's the case.
Uh, and this is why the left are literally just cheering.
Well, it's because it happened to our enemies.
Uh, Victoria was indeed, uh, charged with criminal assault and damage.
Um, she will be appearing on the 2nd of July in, uh, Colchester Magistrates Court, which is good because this has just got to stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is absolutely got to stop.
I mean, and the thing is, this has gone beyond just, okay, someone's standing for an election.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Not fair enough, but you know what I mean?
At least, at least they're, Someone who's trying to attain some sort of power or something like that.
But then a talk TV journalist got milkshaked as well.
It's like, okay.
Isn't that a joke?
Oh, was it?
I don't know.
I think that's him being funny.
Fingers crossed.
I didn't actually take the time to look into it.
Yeah, I think that's Kevin O'Sullivan.
Well, making light of it, maybe.
Yeah, that's even worse then.
That's not funny.
Like, you know, okay, I mean, it's exactly as Farah said.
You don't know what's in it.
You know, it could have been anything.
I can't do this.
And also it reminds you how vulnerable you are.
If somebody can even get close enough to you to chuck a drink.
Yeah.
And like I said, I've been, I've been so many places, we are always intimidated.
I have to have, everywhere I go now, I have to have, oh, that's me.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah.
I have to have personal protection.
When I went to Oklahoma, I had 10 10 armed men to make sure that I was safe.
After that had happened to me in Australia, I went into armed protection with the police.
And in fact, even the police weren't allowed to, other police officers weren't allowed to know where I was, because it was quite serious.
So, yeah, and it's a left thing, maybe.
I don't... Well, I don't ever see anyone who's not a leftist doing it.
That's the thing.
No, but you will hear about it.
So what you'll hear, right, is you won't hear anything about the left violently intimidating anybody, but if there's even a minor scuffle in any other sort of political gathering, you will hear about that and that will be the whole thing.
But candidates being repeatedly assaulted.
And again, it's not like, you know, I mean, this is the second time it's happened to Farage.
Happened to me, of course.
Happened to Tommy Robinson.
It's happened to, like, literally every dissonant figure.
But, and then, so, for us, okay, it's just a milkshake.
Okay, fair enough.
It's, you know, it's just a can of soup.
Okay, fair enough.
That is bad, but you're on the point where you're normalizing the idea that it's okay to assault people with whom you disagree.
Yeah.
To actually, okay, it wasn't a grievous injury, but that's yet.
It's not a grievous injury yet.
But it's anti-democracy because then what you do is you discourage people from wanting to enter into politics, which is really, politics is difficult enough to get into anyway because it's very bureaucratic and you've got to have a lot of time and patience to really understand what the process is and how to be part of it.
But then once you're part of it, if you're also, if you don't say the right things, and the people that feel they can get away with violently assaulting you can do it, then why would you get involved?
Yeah, and in other countries they do have it worse.
For example, an AFD politician was stabbed a couple of days ago while on the campaign trail.
Heinrich Koch was attacked with a knife after confronting a suspect who was tearing down election posters near a town square.
Absolutely mad.
We get no details on the subject, but he apparently shows clear signs of mental illness.
Might have been screaming something in a foreign language, I guess.
And of course, someone was attacked at an anti-Islam demonstration and a policeman was killed arresting the person who was being attacked.
And so it's mad.
I mean, Koch himself needed stitches in the head and had a cut in his stomach, but the injuries thankfully weren't life-threatening.
But the co-chief of the AFD was like, well, this is shocking.
It leaves you stunned.
It's like, yeah, it is.
And this attitude towards your political opponents is becoming normalized in this country.
It just shouldn't be that we see Nigel Farage... Did all politicians come?
This is what I think should happen, and maybe I haven't been paying too much attention because I've been too wrapped up in the things that I've been having to do, but Rishi, Keir and Loses his balance, Ed Davey.
Yeah.
They should have all come out and condemned it, did they?
You know, I didn't actually see Rishi or Keir condemn it, which is weird.
I saw Yvette Cooper of all people.
Right.
Okay, at least someone says that.
Yeah.
But actually, there wasn't widespread condemnation.
It should have been a really serious kind of, right, this is, you know, this is interfering with democracy.
Yeah.
And how would they feel if it was them?
And actually, you know, Rishi in particular, I guess, You would think he'd be concerned about it, but there should be a hard line on this, because, I mean, the normalisation of this kind of aggressive, anti-democratic political violence escalates, as the AFD have shown us.
And it's not like there isn't a heightened sense of tension in the country.
I mean, do you remember a few months ago, where Lindsay Hoyle was saying, look, I just don't want anyone in the Parliament to get killed after David Armis had been killed?
Obviously that, and Joe Cox, that looms in the memory of people, because, no, we're at the point where politicians are being assassinated.
Actually, yeah, yeah, we're at that point and so talk TV making a joke about it But I'd given them the benefit that now I didn't even look into it to be honest.
I saw it Oh god, that's happening, too I'd given them the benefit the doubt being like, okay Someone was being a pratt to this guy as well if they're actually mocking and making light of that.
That's it.
That's even worse It's totally unconscionable Like sorry people have been actually killed over this stuff and you're making it normal that people should be attacked for their politics I mean I did genuinely think I was going to die when I was in New Zealand.
You don't know what they're doing.
I thought I was going to get to the floor and never get up.
Yeah, you don't know what they're doing.
No.
And the mob works in a particular way and also once you throw that milkshake, once you kind of cross that line.
Yeah.
The likelihood of actual, like, real serious violence.
Yeah, a seal has been broken.
Yeah, absolutely.
A seal has been broken.
Why not a punch?
Yeah, exactly.
That's the one thing I really liked about Prescott.
Yeah, the fact that he hit back.
He did go up in the polls after that as well.
But I don't like anything else about Prescott.
No, no.
But the point is it's unacceptable and everyone knows it's unacceptable.
The speed of that rabbit punch was good.
It was funny.
And the only reason they're doing this of course is because Farage is looking like he's going to do quite well.
Apparently data that's come out It's shown that Farage is likely to win Clacton, which is great.
It's the only constituency that ever returned a UKIP MP.
Well, I don't think it's just that he's going to do well, right?
I also think it's the way the media talks about him, the way everyone is allowed to talk about him, the way that he is misrepresented and also because There doesn't seem to be like a penalty.
So there are other people who might have similar views to him that might be surrounded with more rough and ready people.
So they know that there's not going to be, they know that they're not going to get punched back or that any, you know, that girl chucking a milkshake, she didn't fear that there was going to be any kind of physical retribution.
I totally agree.
No, no, no, you're totally right.
I mean, that is one of the main reasons that they feel emboldened to do it.
And if they thought there was going to be any pushback, they wouldn't do it, obviously.
But yeah, it looks like Franz will win Clacton at the very least.
But there are other seats that are marginal that he might win.
Who knows?
I mean, he's had a bump in the polls.
So Conservatives are down to 19, Reform were up 17 in a recently released poll.
But I personally just hope he wins.
Get in there, Nigel, and go give them some hell.
They deserve it.
And the end of the Nigel Farage story should be at least that he becomes an MP.
Yeah.
It should be at least that.
Well, you know, the Conservatives stopped being Conservative a really long time ago.
And whether or not, whether Conservative is your bag, and I probably think Conservative is my bag in my, you know, now that I'm nearly 50.
I certainly think it's mine, but Like, who are the Conservative Party?
Well, they're now in reform.
Yeah, yeah.
And I thought we'd end this off by just promoting Andrew Bridgen.
So, Andrew got kicked out of the Conservative Party for saying what he thought was true about a very hot topic.
I'm not going to mention because this will go on YouTube.
But he's standing as an independent in, I think it's Leicester East?
Right.
Sorry, North West Leicestershire, even.
And I messaged him the other day saying, is there anything I can do to help?
And he was saying, well I could do with people coming on the ground and just help them post leaflets.
So if you'd like to help Andrew Bridgen get re-elected in the face of the Conservative Party kicking him out, go to abridgen.uk and you can get in contact as you see there and just get down there, get on the ground and actually do some campaigning for someone who has stood by their principles and been punished for it.
Anyway, we'll leave that there.
What are principles?
In politics?
I'm not going to ask the Conservative Party, or the Labour Party, or the Greens, or the Lib Dems.
I did something the other day, because I speak unfiltered all the time, and I go straight to YouTube, I don't have scripts, I don't plan what I'm going to say, I just speak.
And I'm not bad at it actually, but sometimes I say something and people are a bit like, Oh, she's gone too far.
But I think there is such an absence of people that speak freely.
And I don't care about making a mistake.
I really don't care at all.
I'm quite happy to say things that sometimes people don't like very much.
But at least they know that I'm saying things I actually believe.
And I think we're getting to the point where this sanitised, kind of soundbitey, everybody worried, what people say all the time, I think we're coming to the end of how much we like that.
Yeah, I hope so.
I really hope so.
And it looks, I've been saying that I think there's a change in the air.
You know, the politically correct consensus I don't think can hold in the face of all of the problems that we have.
And the usual sort of magic incantations of saying you're a racist, you're a transphobe, you're a sexist, you're this, you're that.
Everyone's like, okay, I do still have these issues I want to talk about though.
Yeah.
So we're just going to push through it.
Yeah.
I'm just, you know, I'm just tired and I don't care if that's what you think.
That's your opinion.
Yeah.
But I don't respect your opinion.
So, you know.
People go, you're a transphobe and I'm like, oh, okay then.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, I'm a transphobe.
Great, fine.
I could be.
But the point is, you know, and yeah, I'm just done with it.
And if you're not a transphobe, you probably haven't been listening to what's going on in the last few years, to be fair.
You certainly haven't been paying attention.
No.
And they should be paying attention because it is Fetish Month.
Yay!
I get told this by... I wouldn't know, actually, unless I was constantly bombarded by the media.
But I think that actually something this Fetish Month is different.
Now, we're not going to put this on YouTube, so I can say that it's Fetish Month.
Otherwise, YouTube may have given us a whack for saying that.
But I think because we're nearly a week into it, I haven't really seen much of it.
No.
Uh, and so I think things aren't like they used to be.
You know, you probably remember this message from the, uh, San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus.
I do.
From a few years back now.
I think we'll watch a bit.
You think we're sinful.
You fight against our rights.
You say we all lead lives.
You can't understand.
They look sickly, don't they?
But you're just frightened.
You think that we'll corrupt your kids if our agenda goes unchecked.
Funny, just this once, you're correct.
We'll convert your children.
Happens bit by bit.
So we'll stop there because I think we've got everything we need to know from that chap.
But that was the attitude they approached parental concerns with only a few years ago.
And there's a kind of arrogance behind this sort of thing.
You wouldn't produce this unless you genuinely felt, no, we've got major institutional backing.
We have got governments and corporations... Do you not think that was just a big fat kind of like... I'm sure they'd say, oh, no, no, we are joking, we are joking.
They have actually come out and said, oh, well, it was just a joke.
But...
There's something about it.
It's when you're joking about a real thing that's happening and you've been just either obfuscating, deflecting, or denying it to the point where it's, no, it's a lie.
You've been doing this.
You know you've been doing this.
And they go, wow, yeah, we will.
You're right this time.
It's like, no, no, there's a sort of sense that underlies it that's malevolent.
Yeah, maybe it just wasn't clever enough.
I mean, maybe they should have just gone either a bit more extreme, so it was really overtly hilarious.
Yeah.
But I did look... But this is the sincere message.
Like, they can say it in a jokey way, but that is what they want to do.
Yeah, but when you say they, right, because I do think there is a... The LGBTQ activists.
Well, I do think there is a something going on, and I think gay men are just about to be the next victim of it, to be quite honest, because they've now got vaginas in their saunas, so...
Well, I don't, I'm not saying it's gay people.
What I'm saying is it's activists.
So it's left-wing political activists.
There are lots of right-wing gay people who hate all of this stuff.
Yeah.
And so it's, it's not about, and this is the entire problem with left-wing political activism is they seek to capture the entire demographic and say, well, you're against this thing.
And you fell into it there.
I did.
I'm not saying it's gay people.
I'm saying it's LGBTQ activists.
And they absolutely do think that because that's just the way they are.
Well, not even them actually.
Well, yeah, activists as in they don't even have, I mean, these days... Advocates of the ideology.
Yeah, you can just have a blue fringe and you're queer.
Yeah, but people who are consciously ideological, like these chaps are, 100%.
And no, I don't, I'm not taking any of this sort of, oh, we were just, no, no, no, no, you're doing this and you know you're doing this and you think it's a good thing and you thought Back when this was made, you had the whip hand in the situation.
But things are changing, because what's interesting is the lack of pride that I've seen around.
And so, for me, this became most apparent when lots of video game companies, like, you know, major video game companies, didn't change their profile pictures.
Wow.
This is really weird, because every year, oh, now it's a rainbow, now it's a rainbow.
Yeah, everywhere, isn't it?
Yeah.
And I mean for, you know, Nintendo, Bethesda, Xbox, PlayStation, Electronic Arts, massive names in the industry to not do it, that's a signal, that's a warning, that's something that tells you about things.
Yeah, I mean you are banned aren't you from some of these, I don't know what it is when you play online because I'm old and I'm a woman, but there are things that if you moan about uh certain characters i know there's like not a lot of binary characters a lot of the a lot of the corporates are still doing it aren't they apparently star wars is the gayest yet yeah they are still doing i'm not saying there's no woke agenda in the industry but it isn't quite so uh saturated yes
but the fact that they wouldn't do that because i mean you'd think they don't lose anything from just changing their profile pictures They've been doing it every single year.
Yeah.
So why wouldn't they do it this year?
And like you say, it's not that there's no wokeness in the industry.
For example, the next Call of Duty game has trans pride bullets in it.
Well, I mean, that's a little more truthful than they care to say.
Well, that's the reason we're not putting this on YouTube.
That's a bit on the nose, isn't it?
It's a bit, you know, Tin-eared?
Okay, maybe some mentally disturbed men will dress up in that flag and shoot some people.
It's entirely possible that that'll be the case.
In fact, that has happened multiple times.
Weird that you'd celebrate it in your game.
Yeah, but I think the issue, though, is a lot of this is it's just becoming apparent this is just fetishization.
Yes.
A lot of this.
And just it's just so out in the open at this point.
I mean, this is this is a great little video.
I don't know if you've seen it, but we'll play it for him because this is just superb.
Right.
This this woman is just reading some Reddit posts from transgender women about their experience and euphoria.
Welcome to Listen to Trans People, where we listen to trans people in their own words.
Euphoria Boner.
When I use the women's bathroom, I get super excited because it's so affirming.
I tend to get euphoria boners under my skirt.
I try to hide it, but sometimes other women see it and it's embarrassing.
Does anyone else experience this?
I got a euphoria boner in the women's washroom today.
I usually use the women's bathroom because I mostly pass.
Well today, I got a euphoria boner.
Doing girly things makes it happen sometimes.
I had to hide in the stall for over 20 minutes because it was a busy bathroom in the subway.
Any of you girls have this issue before?
This has been Listen to Trans People.
And boy, do I love it when they tell us the truth about what they're feeling.
I mean, I've known about this for a long time, that they go in and what they will do sometimes in women's toilets, they will deposit different bits of fluids all over toilet roll and the toilet seat, and then get excited that women are going to come across it, or inadvertently not even know that they've come across it.
I tweeted something out about this the other day to say it's a fetish.
It's just a fetish.
It's all a fetish.
I mean, look, I don't want to say that I've been saying this for years, but I have been saying this for years.
It is, of course, it's a fetish.
This idea of gender dysphoria is bullshit.
Excuse my language.
I don't know if I'm allowed to swear on your channel.
It's fine.
Try not to, but...
The whole idea of gender dysphoria is a lie.
I think the whole idea of affirmation is a lie.
The fact that anyone calls it affirming, it really does mean arousal.
So it's all nonsense.
Obviously, women have totally different drivers.
We know that because we don't function the same sexually as men.
But yeah, men who decide that they are women are doing it for their...
Yeah, and I would say there's a different impulse that women who are trying to become men have.
I mean, the example that always springs to my mind is Ellen Page.
And I just think, was it really so bad to be an attractive woman or to become a really inadequate man?
Well, she looked so happy!
She's trans joy all over her miserable face.
I mean, she was married, she was in a lesbian relationship.
I wonder if being very young, looking very youthful in Hollywood, and we know what Hollywood is like, I wonder if there's some backstory of trauma which led her to transition.
I would be shocked if there wasn't.
And I think a lot of people in Hollywood have had some kind of trauma.
Yeah.
And this is the thing.
OK, so for women, I think it's to escape being a woman and maybe abusive men around them.
And for men, it's just a sexual fetish.
And for young people who are confused, they are just confused.
Yeah.
And they shouldn't be taken advantage of by adults with an ideological agenda.
Yeah.
I'm genuinely worried about it.
Obviously, because I've got children who are reaching that sort of age, where their body's changing, you don't know what's going on, and then you've got, you know, people... They wouldn't have come up with that on their own, right?
No, 100%.
Nobody would say, I'm really unhappy.
Oh, I think I don't want my penis anymore.
Yeah.
I don't think anybody would come up with it.
I don't think I want my breasts anymore.
No.
It's like, no, you're mad.
Totally indoctrinated.
And my advice would be, don't let your kids online until they're as old as possible.
Yeah, that's 100%.
You are definitely a conservative.
But that's the correct way to do these things.
And the thing that drives me crazy though is, okay, let's assume there is a sort of tiny marginal group of people who genuinely are not part of a social contagion, who are genuinely not just fetishists.
They actually have some sort of chemical imbalance in the brain, whatever it is.
They've got a mental health issue.
Okay, well what you have when you have people with mental health issues are people who need treatment, not affirmation.
As in you don't therefore further try and drive them into whatever mental health problem they have.
You don't have a schizophrenic saying, look I can see faces on the walls and go, oh, are they smiling?
No, you can't see faces on the walls.
You've got a brain problem and that's the issue.
Well, I've been in this movement a really long time, this sort of anti-transitioning kids and trying to protect women's spaces.
And what we now have is we now have a group of women who have put themselves forward as the spokespeople.
And they're doing the compromising stuff and we're going to be ending up, you know, people are supposedly offering solutions, are just offering loopholes again and we'll be in the same position.
I think as parents, I mean in America I wouldn't send my kids to state school at all.
I mean they're just, or Canada.
Well that's why homeschooling is such a rager.
Yeah.
And I would.
And I, you know, I'm very lucky.
I've known about this since 2015.
So my oldest is 22, my youngest is 15.
So I'm very lucky that I could prime my children into this is happening so we could have conversations about it long before some activist teacher tried to indoctrinate them into the cult.
I'm quite lucky.
My kids are all very much the thing that they are.
My girls are very obviously girls and act like girls.
And my boys are very obviously boys.
And I haven't, I mean, I obviously encouraged, you know, you know, it's like, no, son, you have to, don't cry because you've got to be a man, you know?
And I, my wife hates it when I do.
I'm like, darling, you're not, you're not a boy.
You don't get it.
Right.
It's about the dignity of him.
I bet your daughters don't cry that much either though.
Um, I mean, I don't, I don't cry.
Not that much, but like, I mean, my youngest is one, so she might.
Um, but the, you know, I don't, I don't have the same rules for them that I do for my sons.
Right.
You know, what's really interesting is my three-year-old got stung on the finger by a bee the other day.
And I was like, okay, you know, he'll cry for that.
And he was just like, ouch.
And I was like, he's not even, I'd cry if I got bloody stung by a bee.
I've never been stung by a bee actually, I don't know how painful it is.
But at three years old and he was just like, huh, that was an interesting thing.
Uh, I was quite surprised, but anyway.
So, uh, a lot of the, uh, well, 11 of the NFL teams didn't change their, um, things.
And this, again, this is, this is a big inflection point actually, where it's like, well, what happens if you don't do it?
Well, not much, actually.
If you do do it, there's a lot of pushback.
I mean, they're still doing the fetish marches, obviously, which is, I mean, this is, this is London.
And what I find funny about this is- What was that?
This is London, only a few weeks ago.
Not even a few weeks ago, like a week ago.
That Hamas rally looks odd.
Yeah, but the funny thing I think about this is the weather's not been great recently.
It's actually been a bit nippy, so have fun, you know?
Must be cold.
That pup thing, isn't it?
It's disgusting, and it's obviously just a fetish.
It's disgusting.
It wouldn't have been the case if you hadn't spent all your time on the internet.
You're gross.
That's how I feel about it.
Yeah, just go and have sex at home.
Go and do whatever you need at home.
Everyone's really happy for you.
Get your rocks off.
Have a joyous life.
It's a public fetish.
That's the problem.
Well, yeah, you want to make people uncomfortable and shocked and... It's not just that, they want to involve you in their fetish.
Yes.
Part of their fetish is your reaction to it.
Yes.
Which I'm, and I don't, I don't consent to this.
I don't agree.
No, I'm not having it.
It's disgusting.
Um, and that's the problem.
But, um, but yeah, lots of companies have been pulling back on this.
And again, these are major companies in America.
You've got, uh, Bud Light after last year being like, oh, we're going to, Dylan Mulvaney, the big star of our thing.
Well, not this year.
Uh, Bud Light are actually like, just shut Yeah.
What's happened to that stunning woman?
I haven't seen a lot of Dylan Mulvaney for quite some time.
Probably still doing TikTok, actually.
Yeah, you're right.
There's a lot of girls my daughter's age, she's 17, that are really like, oh, she's so sweet about Dylan Mulvaney.
It's women driving a lot of the support of these misfits.
It's insufferable, actually.
Honestly, white women, they've just got to stop.
I watched something the other day where this one was like, I don't, I'm okay.
You know, I'm so secure in my womanhood that I don't mind trans women in there.
And I just thought, well, that's you.
Yeah.
Like, okay, great.
Good for you.
Most women don't feel like that.
And you're a bloody liar anyway, but most women don't feel like that.
So don't advocate to give away my rights because I don't consent to that.
Yeah.
Some six foot six guy's in the bathroom with you and he's got a huge boner.
You're going to be like, okay, how skilled do I feel actually?
Well, what I'd like to see those women do is be walking home late at night and hearing the footsteps and turning behind and seeing me or a six foot six woman, a bloke called Kelly in a dress and see who she fears the most.
Yeah, which one do you run from?
Target, which is just a big shop, supermarket.
It's a place where you can get your people taking your photo.
Well, no, you can also, you can go to the changing rooms to get men taking your photo under there because it's your sex.
I didn't know that.
But they haven't changed their logos, they're scaling back on their Pride merch, they haven't posted about Pride on any of the social media accounts.
The North Face, which had Summer of Pride last year in partnership with Drag Queen, made no announcement this year and doesn't appear to have released a Pride collection.
The US Navy, which has gone bonkers on this, Last year again had all of this sort of stuff, and has not done it again this year.
And so I think what it is, is they're noticing that support's been going down.
Not just the Navy.
The activists themselves are noticing that the support's going down.
Like this particular article written by Fat Tony for standard.co.uk.
Amazing.
Says, it feels like the support around Pride Month has been dying for the past few years.
Since the pandemic, there just aren't as many major budgets to put on great campaigns.
A lot of corporations are just adding pride flags to their socials, or not even, or popping them in Windows and their job is done.
On top of this, with all the fear-mongering being spewed, we're in a time where some companies are scared of being singled out.
Superb, yeah.
Amazing, good.
I hope they remain frightened.
Absolutely.
I want the Bud Light executives to be like, we don't dare do that again.
We saw it the last time, are you mad?
I don't want any moral guidance from a beer company, to be honest.
I don't want anything.
I'd rather they be afraid.
Yeah.
Look, I'm happy for them not to celebrate Women's History Month, International Women's Day, Black History Month, like all of it.
No, don't do that.
I don't want to see another train company with pride flags all over the trains while people with disabilities can't get on a train.
So no, if you want to do inclusion, let's make sure that public transport is accessible.
I mean, genuinely to people that otherwise cannot get on it.
But no, no more.
No, that's great.
Yeah, I think it's fantastic.
I want them to be living in fear of putting a political step wrong.
So just sell me the beer.
Just sell me the beer.
I won't even milkshake an executive.
Even if they do put a pride flag up.
I wouldn't even milkshake an executive.
Oh, sorry.
That's far too close.
We can't get into that.
Jesus Christ.
Look, it's been many years since I've done nothing wrong, okay?
I'm just saying.
Oh my God.
But the point is, everyone can feel the change in the air, right?
And there's been just public resistance to this.
I know, I love this person.
Yeah, me too.
I just, um, I hate these crosswalks.
I hate this.
It's the same as if it was a Nazi flag on the floor.
I'm just like, no, no, not a Conservative flag, not a Labour flag, not a Pride flag, not a Nazi flag, not a Communist flag.
Why are you doing this?
This is not a universally accepted thing.
No.
How dare you?
I walked up some stairs today at Watershed in Bristol and I went up to their cafe to meet somebody and it's just got the whole progress Pride thing.
I just like, oh.
I hate it.
Go away.
Yeah, I hear.
And so in America, at least, you're seeing a lot of pushback where people are just, you know, doing donuts on the pride thing.
It's like, nope, screw this.
Absolutely screw this.
It's quite impressive as well in automatic cars.
Yeah.
But just widespread, like, ground-level revolt.
You know, the Bud Light stuff, this sort of stuff.
The company's like, hang on a second, actually, we've pissed off far too many people.
Did you see them crying?
There was a video of one of the places like this and then there was the mayor or something crying about that sort of terrible vandalism.
Like a grown man crying about it.
You'd love to see it.
And this isn't just something remote and far away, this also happens in our little corner of the world in Wiltshire, in Lugeshall.
I've never even heard of this place.
Where is this?
I don't know.
Must be like the other side, that way of Swindon.
Ludger Shaw.
But Wiltshire police are investigating the incident because a pride flag was cut down on Monday and the officers said a male suspect has been seen using ladders from a nearby workland to access and the council really wanted to show that they were a progressive council in a progressive town but it seems that we have a way to go says one spokesman.
Nothing says war memorial flag like a pride flag.
What a great place to stick it.
Yes.
There's a village near me called Karn, which is like near Chippenham, and that's having a Pride event.
And then on my local Spotted page yesterday, I don't really go on Facebook that much, but they've got a, I'm looking for a drag queen to read to some children.
I was like, are you?
Why?
Don't do that.
I need to expose my children to a pervert, please.
Why do you need to do that?
And someone says, oh, drag is art.
I'm like, oh, stop it.
There's nothing remotely artistic about a man in a bad wig miming to some songs.
I've never got it anyway.
But if I did want to go and see Drag, I could pay my money to an adult venue, and I could go and do it, and that is a market-led sort of economy.
Do people want to go and see it?
Yeah, some people do, and it's no skin off my neck.
I think it's horrible.
But if you want to go and see it, go for your life, have a great night.
But not with kids, thanks very much.
Anyway, right, so thank God there's open resistance to all of this nonsense.
Yeah.
And hopefully next year it's even less intrusive in our daily life until eventually it falls away entirely.
But anyway, like I said, we've got to pre-record this one, so obviously we've got no comments or anything.
So, Kelly, where can people find you if they want to see more of you?
So many places.
So I'm Kelly J Keane on YouTube, I'm theposyparker or kellyjkeane on Twitter.
Partyofwomen.org and letwomenspeak.org are my two websites, Party and Activist.
Thank you so much for coming down.
It's been a real pleasure and we'll see you on Monday folks.
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