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June 5, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #930
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Hello, beautiful people.
Welcome to the podcast of the Loadseeders.
Today is Wednesday the 5th of June and this is episode 930.
I'm joined today by Josh and Connor.
Hello.
Are you trying to sell a rose at a Spanish resort?
Yeah, possibly.
Stelios is just oozing seduction today.
I want to give my message of positivity to the world and make everyone happy.
Right, today we are going to discuss the Zoomer's rising app to vote for Farage, South Africa's historic election, and DI Barbie drama.
Wonderful.
Oh yes, if you do know, it is a Wednesday, so at three o'clock today we'll have my show, Tomlinson Talks.
This afternoon I'm debating the good Dr Nima Parvini, the academic agent on the case for zero seats, because Love the good doctor, though I do.
He is endorsing voting Labour to destroy the Tories.
And I think that that's unwise, given we can have a couple of allies to form some sort of right-wing coalition in opposition.
So stay tuned for that.
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And that's going to be very interesting because I've heard that he is one of the main defenders of the idea of zero seats.
He created the meme.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good.
Right.
So let's start.
The Zoomers rise up.
Yeah, so something's happening.
There's a big vibe shift happening in politics this week.
So in the last week we've had Liz Truss talk to the Lotus Eaters and not back down from speaking to us.
That's been wonderful.
And then out of the ether came Nigel Farage.
He's back.
He's running in Clacton.
He's taken over from Richard Tice as leader of Reform UK.
And It seems there's going to be a big shift in terms of overall votes and possibly translating to a few seats.
I think the most recent poll today said four.
But that's not the most interesting part.
The most interesting part is what kind of ground game is he running?
Because it seems to me, and we're not going to play this because it is a copyrighted song because Eminem's... Is it Without Me?
That's the...
real slim shade i really don't like eminem so i'm not i'm not i'm not a big fan of eminem however it is very fitting because he's done like little fan cams and things like that he's got a very interesting mimetic ground game that all of the other politicians just don't have and he also has this impish grin which i absolutely respect because you know i i'm also capable of it Well yeah, you laugh at Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin, so... Yes, exactly.
It's brilliant.
And I think Farage, as he said in his announcement, he's injected some much-needed jubilance into an otherwise boring and sclerotic election.
Did either of you watch that dreadful debate yesterday on ITV?
I didn't watch the debate, no.
I knew what would happen.
I would have had a better time wrapping my testicles in barbed wire.
It was like, which insincere bank manager do you trust to raise net migration over the next five years?
Is it red or is it blue?
And they both shouted at each other and looked impotent and miserable.
The whole purpose of the debate to kind of establish how people are going to vote was sort of void when everyone knows it's going to be Keir Starmer that's going to be Prime Minister.
It's a done deal, right?
That and also the policies are indistinct, other than Labour might be slightly more expensive and Rishi Sunak might do gay race communism slightly slower.
Well, I reject the politics of everyone on the podium, so it's like hearing, you know, people fighting about something I don't care about.
Yeah, quite.
And that exact reason is why so many people were disaffected and not willing to vote in the next election.
I think Farage coming into it has meant that a lot of people, particularly radicalised young men, radicalised for the right reasons, if you're watching this, you're probably our audience, are now more likely to go out and make a stand.
What I really cannot understand about the debate last night, I watched part of it, is how on earth can you have the ambition to become a Prime Minister and want to put up a performance like that?
They had zero confidence in what they were saying.
Yes, because... So Keir Starmer's strategy is to stay away from the cameras and be as vague as possible because he thinks he's a write-in candidate because the Tories have collapsed their own base.
And Rishi Sunak's strategy is to scramble to buy off the boomers as much as possible to keep some of the safe seats.
So none of them are actually going for the floating voters because most of those aren't voting at all.
That's what Fraud is picking up.
And he's right when he says there is a massive constituency that just hasn't been captured there yet.
But briefly before I go into that, something that did happen yesterday was that Farage had a milkshake thrown at him.
So I'm going to play the clip.
I will quickly mute it because the sound is...
So you see here, he's walking out of the Weatherspoons, and then some woman in a white tracksuit comes up and throws a presumably banana milkshake from McDonald's all over him.
Now, this woman is a single mother, she has an OnlyFans account, and she's a Corbinista.
Unlike the conspiracy theories online, that even an LBC host said, this is not Emily Hubertson, who is a friend of Farage's, working to generate controversy for the thing.
If you say that, she's probably going to sue you.
Confirm that wasn't Emily.
Won't like to kiss and tell.
But anyway, point being, Farage has then made memes out of this.
Again, capitalizing on this just by going, yeah, you know, not great that Joe Brown once said you should throw battery acid in my face, but I'm not going to be stopped by some tart dousing me in a McDonald's milkshake and things like this.
And I think that's a much better way of handling things than the insecurity or tightly controlled Blairite messaging of either Starmer or Sunak.
I think it's wise.
Milkshake vibes intensifying.
Being able to take a bit of banter, you know, is necessary if you're a proper English person, right?
Well, I suppose it's true of the Welsh and the Scots as well.
A bit of back and forth A bit of banter is normal.
That's how normal people talk to each other and the fact that politicians are so wooden and inhuman just further disaffects them.
So, you know, the disaffecting is useful in that it makes people realise that these people are not for their interest but Farage seems to do being normal quite well.
Well, the fact that he's at risk of being milkshaked from close proximity is awful, but it also shows that he's literally in touch with his constituency, unlike the regional managers of the UK as a sort of satellite branch of a global hegemony that Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer have morphed into.
Remember, Keir Starmer said he prefers Davos to Westminster.
Well, Nigel Farage has spent exactly one day in Clacton and he's already endeared himself to the locals to the extent where hundreds of them just come out to hear him speak as his campaign manager puts a stereo on top of his head.
That's brilliant.
I love that.
It's great.
So, who was he specifically talking about in his announcement speech that said, there's something happening, there's a big movement?
Well, I decided to clip it because he kept talking about, and I'll play this for a second, he kept talking about how there is something happening, there are young people up and down the country, and the reason he ran was because they were themselves saying, there's nobody to vote for and I feel betrayed if you don't run.
I also know, just as throughout Europe, there is a new phenomenon Racing through politics ahead of these European elections this weekend.
I promise you, something is happening out there.
I've been in this game 30 years.
I've fought lots of elections.
I've generally got a pretty good sense of timing.
Something is happening out there.
So yes, I changed my mind and you know what?
I'm not ashamed of it one little bit.
So, I think, just having encountered random people in train stations and at events, we know there are a lot of young men across the UK watching our stuff.
They range from their mid-thirties to even still in school.
There is something palpable about the dispossession of people born since 1997, who have never known anything but Blairism, mass migration, the deprivation of job opportunities and housing, that mean they're just, they're not in tune with the liberal paradigm anymore.
And they're more likely to direct their energy towards someone like Nigel Farage.
And I think there are quite a few people that he's pointing out as a kind of constituency that doesn't show up in polls because they weren't going to vote for Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer.
Now Farage has come along, he's galvanising something tangible.
I think that this is absolutely the case, and I've taught for six years at a university, and you could say that, you know, essentially that's teaching children that just left school.
And the men from them, they're absolutely pissed off with the indoctrination that they have, because in the past you could say that the left had a stronger hold on them, because the narrative was only Economic oppressor versus economically oppressed.
Now there's a direct targeting of men.
They're not having it.
They're not having it, and they're absolutely pissed off with it.
Well, if in every classroom... I've been saying this for a little while.
I mean, I said there's some trigonometry in it, and it resonated.
So that's good.
If white men have been actively demonized by all of their blue-haired feminist teachers for ages, and they hear constantly about how they're at fault for all of society's problems, and any time they manifest competence, it's just another proof of toxic patriarchy, when millions of them don't even have a dad in the home, Then yeah, they're going to get a bit resentful of that.
And the first candidate that comes along and says, actually, you've been deprived of a cultural inheritance, job opportunities, the ability to have a family, your ability to own a home has been indefinitely deferred at the altar of mass migration and increasing the GDP while you're getting personally poorer and your high street is being robbed from you.
Then yeah, they're going to be pretty annoyed about that.
And anyone who comes along and says, I'm going to fix that, they're going to gravitate towards it, which is encouraging.
Well this affects us as well, right?
We're sort of within this age bracket where we're getting screwed over by all of these problems as well.
We're having to live through it, and as does anyone who doesn't really, you know, have a stake in the economy.
Anyone who's not in the housing market, for example, or doesn't have any feasible way of getting into it.
That is this demographic, right?
Any man under 35?
Yeah.
The most common arrangement currently for anyone 18 to 35 in the UK is living at home with their parents.
So that just means that if you want to have the native British population having families, you're not going to have that.
So you're actively encouraging the worst kinds of benefit subsistence, a disproportionate number of whom are foreign nationals in the last few years, to come over and have lots of kids, and so you're making me pay for them while I'm trying to save for a deposit that's constantly being outpaced by inflation.
Yeah, anyone who comes along and says, I'm going to fix that.
Yeah, of course, those people are going to vote for them.
That's also happening in Europe, which is very interesting.
This is obviously this year, lots of elections are happening.
I think it's France, Germany, the Dutch ones have just happened, which you did excellent coverage on.
Thank you.
The US elections are happening.
We're seeing a massive swing towards parties like the AFD or particularly towards Donald Trump among young men in America, because they are sick of migration being the principal issue and economic mismanagement robbing them of their lives and their livelihoods.
It turns out if you treat, you know, men, young men, poorly, they're not going to support you.
It's funny that, isn't it?
Yeah, for all the wittering on about democracy, they don't actually like when the vote is.
There's a reason I'm here, right?
Yeah, quite.
quite um so i'm just gonna read a little bit in belgium france portugal germany and finland younger voters are backing anti-immigration and anti-establishment parties in numbers equal to and even exceeding older voters analyses of recent elections and research of young people's political preferences suggest in the netherlands get wilders anti-immigration far-right freedom party far-right do one right that's That's politico.
Far-right just means that he doesn't think that all people are ultimately fungible and we can import infinity immigrants from here to the heat death of the universe.
I think, if anything, classical liberals more.
You know, the sort of free market and liberalisation.
Goethe is opposed to Islam because he's pro-Israel, pro-gay and pro-women's rights.
He's not opposed to it in some sort of identitarian, ethno-nationalist way.
So it's a very liberal opposition to Islam.
So, far right again.
Well, I mean, there are plenty of prominent liberals, at least, you know, 1990s, early 2000s, that were very outspoken about Islam, weren't they?
It's not unheard of.
Remaining one.
Yeah.
I mean, Christopher Hitchens.
Yeah, quite, yeah.
There you go.
So, in the Netherlands, Wilders' party won the 2023 election on a campaign that tied affordable housing to restrictions on immigration, a focus that struck a chord with young voters.
Yeah, well, if you keep importing people and raise house prices, The people that can't get a house are going to be annoyed?
Shock.
In Portugal, the party, I'm not going to say far-right, Chega, which means enough in Portuguese, drew on young people's frustration with the housing crisis, among other quality of life concerns.
The analysis also points to a split.
Young women often reported support for Greens and other left-leaning parties.
Amazing what birth control will do.
Anti-immigration parties did particularly well against young men.
So, let's look to the UK, because so far, we haven't, before Farage was running, had an anti-immigration candidate.
Because Rishi Sunak has promised, as soon as Farage ran, to lower migration.
Do you know how he's going to do that?
He's going to ask the Migration Advisory Committee, the quango that increased migration in the first place, in line with to increase GDP, mainly among students, to set an arbitrary cap.
So the cap is probably going to be higher than the current level of net migration, but lower than it would have projected to rise by.
That's absolutely what's going to happen.
I have a quick question for Stelios.
Have you noticed anything in Greek politics following these trends?
Because I've seen a lot of trends in sort of Northwestern Europe.
Is it translating in, you know, the Mediterranean world?
I think slowly.
Slowly?
It is beginning to take hold.
Ten years ago, we had this, but with more, you could say, further right, very hard right, and actually far-right parties.
Is that the golden dawn?
Yes.
Not in the political sense of the term far-right.
But people are being pissed off, are being frustrated with the current government.
Mm-hmm.
Sorry, do carry on.
No, no.
Justifiably so.
Well, now, do you remember this article from a couple of years ago now?
It was November 2022.
I wanted to draw on this because there's connective tissue between how Farage was perceived back then and by who and him running now.
So, let's think this is a reasoned event that was hosted by Darren Grimes at the time.
And he invited a bunch of people, including Steve Baker, who at the time was pro-Brexit and anti-lockdown and has since become a political cuckold who's about to lose his seat, and deservedly so, Daniel Hanan, who was a pro-Brexiteer, free marketeer, the kind that said global Britain, basically open borders, and Nigel Farage.
And the reception Farage got was much more favourable than that for Baker and Hanan, who were essentially booed by the Zoomers that were in the audience for their migration stance and their, like, Wooly satirism that's just been microwaved from the grave.
So like Hitchens, the young men in this room think Britain has been abolished and that the Conservative Party is not conservative at all.
Ambient British pop culture, whether RuPaul's Drag Race or footballers taking the knee, bristles with personalities and causes that unsettle them.
They see wokeness as a virus infecting every aspect of British culture.
That's what they love, Nigel.
In 2016, he proved to them that Conservatives, real Conservatives, could beat the left-wing establishment.
To whoops, Farage promises a third coming, a return to frontline politics, which we're now seeing, if the state of the nation keeps deteriorating.
One better than Jesus.
Doubtful.
Their love for him cannot be understated.
Nige, big, big fan, is the way that they frame their questions to him.
Yet Farage, beyond his boosterism, is so unmistakably 80s.
His agenda, where it rises above being a disgruntled mood, is not theirs.
A global free-trading power.
At least half of the audience is protectionist, restrictionist, anti-globalist.
Farage calls on them to be happy warriors, but they're pessimists.
Do they want more unreconstructed libertarianism?
I doubt it.
They are not like Farage.
Thatcher's children, they are his children.
They aren't They like Farage's positions on British identity and borders, but not markets.
They hoot their affection at Farage, not for what he says about free trade, but for the way he says it.
Politics is often vibes.
Farage gave them 2016, and that year was their political awakening.
They should follow him into the deepest ditch if that was what he asked of them.
His insurgent energy is undiminished, his pugnacity undiluted, his rhetoric undaunted in the face of all his enemies.
More than any Tory in Parliament, And though they do not agree with everything he says, Farage inspires this generation of conservatives.
And that's certainly the case.
And that's why his meme game is one of his strongest assets.
Even if reform, and we've got our gripes with reform's policies around this table, particularly after Richard Tice's deselection of Beau for stating reform party policy.
Even if reform are not enough, particularly with net zero migration, Farage went on GB News the other night with Camilla Tomini and said 600,000 people a year.
No.
We need a net outflow, if anything.
Even if they're not enough, On vibes alone, he will galvanise a young reactionary base.
He's very energetic.
That's what is really good about him, and that's what people respond to.
Because you just look at the debate yesterday, they were just tired very much.
Yeah, well, Fraud acts as if he knows he has the mandate of heaven.
It's true.
If you act as if you have an inevitable victory inbound, like Trump did in 2016, we will get tired of winning, then you almost believe your own hype and everyone else will buy into it.
Fake it till you make it.
It's not necessarily fake it, because I think he's actually having fun.
And that's actually good to watch.
Again, Nigel's not perfect, but I've enjoyed watching him for the last couple of days.
If I can feel encouraged, and I'm miserable, it's something.
I think it's a tentative win for people on our side of politics.
I'm still not convinced Farage is going to do a lot more to make me feel like I could at least partially trust him.
But it's going in the right direction and you're right to say that it is creating a momentum within the UK and a movement you could even say.
Well the people around Farage who want him involved in a post-election opposition coalition are certainly more on our side of the fence and so the people that are bringing those forces together I think shape it more in our direction as well.
So I don't really have any reservations in saying like if you're in Clacton obviously vote Farage but If you want to stick it to the One Nation Conservatives, either, in your constituency, vote for one of the rare exemptions for zero seats, which I'll be debating with Dr Parvini later, or, I hate to say it, and some of my co-hosts will have disagreed with me here, but if you want to vote reform to up the vote total, just to stick it to them, it's not a bad idea.
Truthfully, now that fraud is at the helm, Well, it was either vote reform or spoil my ballot, so it's... It's true!
And you can tell that they're genuinely afraid of this because Daniel Hannan came out today in Conservative Home, which is the sort of...
He's a brainchild of what the Conservative Party thinks about itself, and is himself saying, Farage is a peddler of fantasy politics and well adapted to our TikTok age.
And it's like, ah, you're bricking it with the fact that he can talk to Zoomers, aren't you?
You're terrified at the exact audience that booed you, which are the conference-going Tory base, which are basically your recruiting force for the next cohort of MPs.
Bloody hate you, but they really like Nigel.
That's good.
I like to see them quaking in their boots.
So why do they hate these guys?
Okay, well, we've now got this piece in UnHerd that, from the other day, Britain's young right-wing Tories actually want zero seats.
So that's...
That's good news.
Dr Parvini's meme has caught on.
So they interviewed two people in here that are under pseudonyms, Michael and Ben.
Michael's a 24-year-old former Conservative Party activist who doesn't plan to vote in the upcoming election.
I bet you he votes Nigel now.
He told him that Richard Tice's talking points are delivered by a boomer for boomers.
It's basically a miniature version of the Tories.
All those concerns about digital currencies and woke environmental activists fall flat with us because we're not thinking about Greta Thunberg.
We care about housing and jobs and what kind of country we're going to live in 30 years from now.
Ben, who's in his mid-twenties and works in Westminster, suggested that young right-wing Zoomers look elsewhere for political inspiration.
A lot of these people grew up watching Peter Hitchens' videos in the mid-2010s.
They've adopted his view that the Tory party must be destroyed.
His impulse has manifested in the new rallying cry of zero seats.
The young British right calling for the Conservatives to be wiped off the electoral map.
Have they got his optimism?
What, AAs?
No, I'm talking about Peter Hitchens.
Oh, well, they're going to go like this, they're going to be looking down their nose at the Conservatives.
Well, I think actually Peter Hitchens coming out and saying vote Conservative because Labour will be worse has actually torched his credibility.
So there's currently a leadership vacuum for Gen Z to look to for who they should follow in this election and I think Nigel's hoovering it up.
So he's just offered them an opportunity to accelerate the demise of the Tories.
The Tories are actually bricking it behind the scenes.
There's now rumours of multiple reformed defections.
I know who some of those people are.
If they do defect as planned, the Tories are screwed because they're high profile.
We will see.
We will absolutely see.
So, why?
That's a good thing to sort of round up, right?
So here's one testimony from Matt Goodwin's sub-stack.
Matt has a very good sub-stack.
Hopefully we'll chat to him before the election.
This is a testimony of one dispossessed Zoomer in Britain, right?
I'm just going to scroll down because it says...
I'm writing this at 3am in the morning and I have less than 4 hours before I need to get up and start my morning routine for work.
But once again, the neighbours who live downstairs below my flat have decided to have another all-night party.
Unlike me, they don't have to wake up for work, because unlike me, they don't have to work.
They qualify for social housing.
Their rent is subsidised by the large and rising amount of council tax I am forced to pay for each month, on top of the ruinous income taxes, national insurance contributions and student loan repayments.
The majority of the tenants in my housing block are unemployed.
I see a few of them leaving the house for work in the morning.
My interactions with them are limited to hostile glaring mixed in with the occasional attempted mugging.
On the rare occasion I have female company, I have to escort my dates to and from the bus stop to stop being sexually harassed.
What scraps of my salary the state allows me to keep are eaten up immediately by rent.
I pay almost half my income tax, post-income, to live on an ex-council estate in Zone 3 London, with the smell of weed continually hanging in the air.
Unless I achieve an income of more than £200,000, it will simply be impossible to secure a mortgage on a house the same size as the one my parents bought in 1989.
If I decide to have children, which you should, which you might think ought to be encouraged given the demographic crisis facing Western nations like Britain, I will have to contend with extortionate childcare costs or deprive my household of a second income.
The only feasible route out of this incredibly depressing situation is to leave the city I grew up in and commute two hours both ways from a town I have no local connection to.
So in my situation, where I have no friends or any family living nearby, even with cheaper housing, I will still have to send my kids to local schools where they will be bombarded with relentless propaganda about how to change their gender, acknowledge their whiteness and apologise to the British Empire.
It is certainly true that my previous generations of young people have faced more challenging circumstances.
I am not yet being asked to walk across no man's land and into a sea of barbed wire and machine guns.
The Tories' election announcements have their way, they're certainly gearing you up for it.
But it is one thing being asked to suffer for a cause like liberty in Europe, or to grimace through destitution because of a seemingly uncontrollable event like the Wall Street crash, it is quite another to be economically enslaved to the point of infertility to sustain a growing population of resentful dependents.
The Zoomer has in fact learned to hate.
I couldn't have put it better myself, really.
I mean, this captures the mood of what it is to be under 30 in Britain.
Well, I imagine it's probably under 35, under 40 even.
Lots of people are struggling.
In many countries.
Many other countries, including now Germany and the US, have had an actual viable right-wing candidate to direct their energy towards.
Finally, Britain has one.
And so all of that resentment, justified resentment, towards the importing of net dependents who are swallowing up the housing stock, spitting at you and trying to steal your Rolex and ruin your business, Yeah, actually that energy's there.
Even growing up in Plymouth where there weren't really any foreign people, at least not that I knew of, there'd be like one or two perhaps, there was still the resentment towards the people that were gaming the welfare system.
It's still there.
Well, there was chat culture in the early 2000s, wasn't there, where it was looked on to say, well, you're a scrounger, get off.
I think that's also admirable as well.
And it isn't just losing a Rolex.
It's also very low-income working class people who have children who routinely go to school and they are being bombarded with a message that somehow you need to atone for what you are.
Yes, quite.
I was referring mainly to the Watch Shop incident where the bloke was mobbed by two blokes and took his own life, which is sad.
But you're exactly right.
It's not even luxury goods they're stealing.
They're just bullying you on the grounds of tribal ingrate preference because they have a contempt for you for being a white Christian Englishman.
That's awful.
You shouldn't import that.
But for some reason our global managers seem obsessed with doing so.
There's one man that's saying we shouldn't.
Now, he isn't saying we shouldn't to nearly the degree that's necessary because we have still a net outflow of British people under his regime.
But I think if someone's going to listen to more migration restrictions, it's probably Nigel.
So just to wrap up on this in the last little bit, I mean, this is another reason behind the resentment.
I mean, this is a great article.
I won't read much of it, but Sam Ashworth-Haynes in the Telegraph just going through all the data about a boomerocracy.
Essentially, housing costs in 2022 took up 24% of the income of a typical household renting in Britain.
In 1980, a 30-year-old could only expect to spend 10% of their income on housing.
So it just shows the kind of scale that we're battling here.
I mean, the demographic realities of the election mean that because the boomers had far less kids, because they wanted to be free and go work and engage in sexual liberation and the like, it means that demographic realities are just the Tories have to try and bribe the boomers.
And even then it's not working because they're all hemorrhaging over to reform.
And so now you've got essentially the end of the Conservatives, which is...
That the Conservatives have treated the nation-state like a gym membership for a very long time.
So it's the Uniparty, and I'm quoting Mary here, which comprises every mainstream political representative of the zombie liberal consensus, views the British nation-state as effectively obsolete.
It's content-free, it has no culture, no people, nothing to offer than a tourist tat, a flaccid trading zone, and some services that might be attained on a gym membership basis by just showing up.
Are we a nation or not?
Aren't we a nation?
We aren't a nation when there's any question of preferential treatment based on shared history, heritage, culture or ancestry.
We are, though, when it's a question of coughing up to bankroll whichever set of client group subsidies this iteration of the Union Party would like to prioritise, boomers or migrants.
Perhaps you think I'm being cynical, and perhaps I am, but the point is a serious one.
Was SUNAC's National Service Proposal a serious policy designed to be implemented rather than simply fulminated over in the press?
It would be crippled from the word go by a profound structural problem.
That is, you can't de facto abolish the nation state and then demand all the youth do national service.
They're not interested in winning the Zoomers back.
That will be the demise of the Conservatives.
They've ultimately alienated them through mass immigration.
They've impoverished them through the pandemic and locked them up and prevented them having relationships and friendships.
They have alienated them from their culture through mass migration.
And then they spit in their eye when they say, oh, can we please have some housing?
No, no, no, no, no.
So this is why when the One Nation Tories turn around and say this, oh, if you notice any of these problems, you're just stoking culture wars, they're not resonating.
But Farage, He goes on TikTok and a clip of him joking about melons is seen by 1.6 million users and liked by nearly 200,000.
Even Tom Harwood, even Albie from GB News, soft Tory wet party member Albie is saying he's probably going to vote for Arj.
Something is really happening here and it's a joy to see.
Hopefully it all works out.
Okay, now for something completely different.
A little bit of a Monty Python there.
South Africa's elections.
Something has happened which you might not have expected.
The ruling party, the ANC, is going to form a minority government for the first time since the end of apartheid, which is not something to be understated.
It's a very significant thing and is also very important because South Africa is actually playing A lot of important roles in geopolitics obviously.
It's playing an important role via the ICJ in going after Netanyahu in Israel.
It was the one that lodged the complaint to them.
It's also aligning itself with Russia and BRICS and so it's a key country to keep an eye on because they're going to be shaping the direction of world politics.
And this is obviously very important.
Obviously the ANC, the African National Congress, was the party of Nelson Mandela and although Nelson Mandela was a domestic terrorist and his wife advocated for murdering white people, for some reason he's venerated.
We've got a statue of him in Parliament Square.
We do indeed.
We shouldn't.
He was a socialist and he believed in violent revolution.
I don't think that's something that should be celebrated personally but They've ruled since 1990, and they got 40.14%, which if we look at past elections, so 2019, it already started going down.
You can see the percentage there, I believe, if that is the 2019 one, yes.
So that was 57.5%, and then you go back to 2014, and this is 62.15%.
And normally, up until 2019, it didn't even drop beneath 62%.
That was the low point since Mandela.
And in fact, in between the Mandela years and 2019, that was when they're actually getting higher, they're almost getting towards 70% of the votes.
And the fact that it's down to 40% now is quite significant.
So you go here to 1994, this is of course the Nelson Mandela election here, that was 62.65% and that was the first election following the end of apartheid.
So you think it would be the high watermark, right?
Question, is it 62.65% of those who voted or of the voting population?
of those who voted or of the voting population?
Of those who voted.
Of those who voted.
That's almost always what the statistics are for voting percentages.
Well, you can have statistics that say how many people voted.
I think it had about a 60% turnout, so you can sort of figure it out if you want to.
We move on now to the 2024 election, and here we have something that's quite confusing.
It's a multi-party system, but I'm only going to talk about the main ones.
So obviously you've got the ANC at the top, headed by Cyril Ramaphosa, who is going to go on to be the premier of South Africa, right?
And then you have the Democratic Alliance, and interestingly they are second here, and there is something about them This is a party led by a white guy and I went through and had a look at every other party and none of them are.
Oh, except for that guy.
But he's on 1%?
Yes.
None of the major parties, they're all sort of African nationalist in sort of flavour, except the Democratic Alliance, which is sort of liberal.
It's sort of a broad, catch-all liberal party, sort of left liberal to sort of classical liberal, that sort of thing.
And they did okay, they picked up a few seats but they're probably not going to go into coalition because the ANC need to go into coalition with someone and they're definitely not going to go into coalition with MK because that is headed by Jacob Zuma who Ramaphosa ousted from the African National Congress and pursued for corruption charges and he was imprisoned which led to the 2021 riots in South Africa
and so even the party's name comes from the paramilitary wing of the ANC and in fact the ANC tried to sue him for using that name saying that he wasn't allowed to do it and so they're not on the best of terms if they're trying to sue him and Ramaphosa tried to you know pursue Zuma who was previously president before him with legal cases then I doubt they're going to go into coalition with...
Which leaves us with the economic freedom fighters and these guys are communists and black nationalists.
This is the one headed up by Malema who you guys may have seen basically calling for the death of white people.
He explicitly says that land should be seized from white people without compensation given to black people.
He's the one that's saying kill the boa, kill the farmer at his rally.
Yeah and the one that the mainstream media said, oh well there's context for it.
No, you know, people are being killed in the farms.
We'll be getting on to that but this is a valid threat and it seems most likely that the ANC will go into coalition with these guys and there are already people in the ANC who are sympathetic towards this because the ANC are socialists.
They're not, I mean, they enshrined in their constitution which I'll get on to later expropriating land from white farmers without paying them so it seems like there's an overlap here and although Ramaphosa has been sort of hesitant to go as much in that direction there's certainly sympathies within his own party to do that you see also a communist party calling itself the economic freedom fighters party I know the bitter irony isn't it Yeah.
We're so in favour of freedom that we want more government control.
But let's have a little bit more of a look at some of the parties.
So I have sort of pre-saged it.
I wrote an entire article, I did a lot of research for this, in December of 2021, breaking down all the riots.
So this breaks down in great detail the rift between Zuma and Ramaphosa and all the rioting and why it was happening and it was basically lots of people who supported Zuma going out and rioting because he was a political prisoner and they're targeting things like shopping malls and burning distribution centres down, particularly in Durban, and targeting white people and Indians as well.
Why Indians?
Because of the colonial affect about them?
So part of the corruption scandal is that there's three brothers, the Gupta brothers, Indian brothers, who were involved in a financial scandal and Indians are also quite common in
South Africa in that Durban has the largest population of Indians outside of India in a city and that's also the place which has a major port and they're basically accusing them saying Indians control too much of our country, we don't want this to happen, it should be Africans doing it.
So it's a similar thing that they applied to white people but they're applying it to Indians as well in effect.
So You've also got Malema here talking about genociding four million whites living in South Africa, and then Elon Musk, probably the most famous South African in the world, saying the likely future leader of South Africa calls for genocide of the four million whites who live there.
I'm not entirely certain that he's going to be the future leader of South Africa.
I think that's a bit of a stretch.
But he may well be in a position of power, which is kind of scary for white South Africans, I imagine.
Question here.
If the party that won now did not win by majority vote, they will form a coalition government?
Yeah, that's right.
Probably.
So he could be one of the members of the coalition government.
Yeah.
Also, you've got DA here, which their main sort of line, which I thought was funny, is the Western Cape area is the part of South Africa that actually works.
What are the demographics of Western Cape?
Coincidentally, it's 16% white, which is the highest percentage in all of South Africa by province.
If you point that out, of course, that is racism.
So that is not allowed, but also it is true.
So, yes, they're basically saying, we know how to run stuff, so vote for us.
And believe it or not, in a country that is struggling to keep the lights on and clean water, that's quite an appealing narrative, right?
You want functioning sewage systems?
That's because you're a racist.
Functional systems.
South Africa doesn't seem to be one, right, as a country, because 32.1% of people are unemployed.
So a third of all people in South Africa are unemployed, which is sort of a catastrophe if you're running the economy.
It's almost like socialism doesn't work, and nor do people in socialism apparently.
And crime has remained Sort of stable, but very high.
Awfully high.
Yeah, so 100 is like maximum crime, so having things in the 70s is probably not great.
Aren't they the most economically deprived slash disequilibrated?
I can't remember which one it is on the Gini Index.
They have the highest amount of economic inequality, supposedly.
But also they have the third highest murder rate in the world.
So yeah, that's something to bear in mind.
Also, Water is becoming increasingly scarce as time goes on, as the colonial infrastructure is breaking down, basically, because they haven't created any more infrastructure since it was run under apartheid.
This is a deliberate choice from the ANC.
I'll talk about it in a second, when we get to the electricity access, because it's the same story in lots of other industries as well.
But even getting clean water is becoming difficult.
Oh, I didn't mean to skip that.
You can also see just the state of the streets.
I hope the audio doesn't play on this.
It will do, you have to quickly mute it.
Okay.
It's just a racket, sorry.
But you can just see that, you know, it looks like a state in lots of city centers.
It looks disgusting.
Looks like the mouth of the Ganges.
Looks like there was a festival that no one cleaned anything and just left.
It does, except I've seen, I've played a lot of GeoGuessr and you can always tell When you're in a South African city because it looks like a dump.
I'm sorry if you're from South Africa.
It shouldn't be that way.
It could be different.
So I'm not having a go.
I'm just saying this is what your politicians have done to you.
So I'm not looking down my nose.
And I live in Swindon, which is basically the same anyway.
So I can't judge.
I don't live here by choice.
Also, there have been rolling blackouts.
This is a common problem.
This is to such an extent that you can't really run a restaurant because you have a blackout and your food starts to spoil.
So things like restaurants, things that rely on having consistent energy, hospitals, for example, consistently, obviously they have backup generators, but they're still interfering in the whole process, right?
And so If you don't have electricity, you fail to have a functioning economy.
You're actually going to end up going backwards if you don't sort this out.
And this is because in the late 90s it was projected that there would need to be more power stations, more power generated Because the population would grow.
It was already somewhat insufficient.
They needed to carry on growing it.
But the ANC refused to build new power stations unless they were built by, and this is a direct quote, black empowered businesses.
Where have we heard this before?
Oh, this is the exact same narrative in the United States.
And where will it lead?
Oh right, it will lead to you don't have a functioning economy because what the ANC did was no one, because the cost of energy wasn't high enough to make it profitable for these black empowered businesses to sort of muscle their way into the industry, they didn't create any more power infrastructure because it couldn't be owned by black people.
I think having energy is more important than who owns it but hey, Maybe.
I'm just far right and evil.
Yeah, you're not a race communist.
I mean, we're about to get the same thing in the UK because Labour are about to pass at the same time a Race Equality Act and make the taxpayer on the hook for a great British energy company which is only renewable.
So not only is it going to cost three trillion quid, have zero abilities, do backup storage and only meet 26% of demand, it's also going to be staffed by diversity hires who probably won't have the prerequisite training to make up mandatory quotas.
I mean, if this isn't a lesson in, you know, race socialism, basically.
Speedrunning a failed state.
Yeah.
It doesn't work.
Look at South Africa.
They did that since the 1990s.
It is, in many metrics, it's got worse from the apartheid government some 30 years ago.
What does that tell you about what happens?
A lot of the world has got better, right?
Even though mismanagement has been rife, you know, we don't have a lack of clean water or electricity, although we do have power cuts in the studios sometimes.
It's not to that extent here, right?
But it will be if we embody these policies.
It's like socialism.
Well, yes, of course.
Particularly race socialism.
Also, you have problems with... Oh, here's the electricity access.
Sorry, I was... Here we go.
Oh, look at that!
89% and then boom!
All the way down to zero.
Look at it.
It's just a dip.
And that's because they didn't build the infrastructure.
Because black people couldn't own it.
This is what happens.
This was a choice.
South Africa is bad because the ANC made it worse, right?
But anyway, talking about things getting worse, this was a story in 2018 that this, I believe, is Ramaphosa here, saying that they wanted to amend the South African constitution to make it legal to expropriate land without compensating them from white people and give it to black people.
So the Zimbabwe method?
That worked great for them?
Well, it hasn't worked very well, because white South Africans, 7% of the population, own about 75% of the freehold farmland, which is slightly different, you know, it's a specific category within farmland.
And the vast majority of these farms are just small-scale, family-run farming operations, sort of self-sustaining, maybe generating a small surplus.
So they're kulakish?
Yes.
Only 2,600 farms in all of South Africa are large-scale farms that produce food commercially.
Black South Africans own 25% of the land but only produce 10% of the food and the ANC wants to make that 25% 30% so they want an extra 5% and if they target the commercial farms there is an actual chance that this is going to destabilize the food supply lines.
Of course the 2021 riots Burnt down lots of the supply lines in places like Durban with all of the distribution centres as well as the fact that it was disrupted from Covid.
This is going to snowball into a massive humanitarian crisis potentially if nothing gets done about it because you're going to be passing land from large-scale commercial things as well as potentially taking it away from white families and depriving them of their livelihood.
And then giving it to people who are less competent at farming, to put it bluntly.
I mean, the numbers don't lie, right?
It's famines for racial justice is what they're going to achieve there.
Yes.
And it is an imposing tragedy.
And you only need to look at this.
So this is a graph from, I forgot what it's called, but it's basically like a sort of classical liberal organisation.
And they were looking- Green Market Foundation.
That's it, yeah.
Clues in the name.
So this was looking at the number of race laws in South Africa and you can see pre-apartheid it sort of peaked in the 80s and then when it gets towards sort of 90s it's already started dropping and it sort of bottoms out at about what 94, 93 something like that and then goes up to the point where now in the modern day there are more laws on race than there were in apartheid.
I mean, you want any more proof that you're self-sabotaging?
Here it is.
You've become the thing that you supposedly wanted to destroy.
In fact, you've become worse and less competent.
It was never about equality, it was always about supremacy.
Well, it was.
And it's also worth mentioning, of course, I'd be much remiss not to mention the phenomenon of the farm murders in South Africa, where white farmers, you know, normally white families live in rural areas where It's a lot easier for people to move in, kill them or beat them up and tie them up and take all their stuff because there's no witnesses around.
They're living on a farm in the middle of nowhere, right?
And so the fact that white people are seeing a sort of fair game and there's a politics around Expropriating land?
Well, if you're a black person in South Africa, you might feel valid in taking that redistributive measure yourself, rather than relying on politics.
And I think that the politics has stoked this phenomenon of murdering white people to take their stuff in South Africa, which is horrible, obviously.
I don't even need to say it, really.
And the final problem is that of corruption.
And South Africa recently got a corruption score of 41.
So zero is absolute corruption.
Your entire economy is corruption.
You're totally corrupt.
And 100 is no corruption at all.
So a score of 41 is pretty concerning.
But there's a lot of corruption and I think that also doesn't help.
That funds that are allocated towards developing infrastructure, which should have been done a long time ago, all of a sudden start disappearing and funneling away until people find out, oh nothing's been done.
And this is exactly the problem they face.
And if they go into coalition with the EFF, who are communists, is the problem going to get better or worse?
Well, it's going to get worse.
And the ANC in coalition with the EFF, or another socialist party that is black nationalist, they are going to sort of starve themselves, make themselves die of thirst, remove all of the power just out of spite towards the white man.
And this is the future that they have.
And it doesn't have to be like this because Next door to South Africa you have Botswana.
Here you are.
If you've received an American education it is here.
And Botswana is actually used by economists as a sort of example of a country that can succeed with good policy, right?
They are capitalistic, they've encouraged investment from abroad.
They're landlocked as well, so that makes it generally harder.
Yeah, and they've also tried to encourage entrepreneurialism, and it's worked very well.
In fact, they're one of the per capita wealthiest countries in Africa, at least sub-Saharan Africa anyway, and they're doing very well.
They don't have the same problems as South Africa, even though they started from relatively similar positions.
So they don't have these same power outages and water shortages, which just shows that it's a matter of policy.
Because South Africa, if anything, started off in a better position than Botswana did, with the infrastructure left behind from colonial times, as well as the knowledge of how to run a functional society.
It's to the point where they can actually be quite adept at diplomacy.
So they're talking about here, this is a sort of light thing to end on, they can threaten sending 20,000 elephants to Germany.
And in fact, we're laughing at this saying, oh, those silly Germans, they're sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong.
Well, actually, they also threatened to send them here as well, because we wanted to introduce legislation like the Germans.
Reducing, well completely preventing actually, the import of trophies from trophy hunting.
And they're saying, well elephants run riot over our stuff, our crops.
They target children and kill them.
It's for the welfare of Africans to keep the elephant numbers down.
They've basically tried to palm them off on whoever will take them.
And this is Botswana's problem of, we've got too many elephants.
Not, we don't have enough water and food to look after ourselves and electricity.
So they're Hannibal Baxing?
They are, yes.
Of a population of elephants?
Yeah, well, it shows that conservation works because there was an industry where hunters would pay to shoot them and it'd be a lot of money.
That disincentivised the locals from doing it because they would get a payout.
So they could sustainably keep the population at a level that doesn't interfere with human activity.
Exactly.
But what I feel like I've demonstrated here is that the problems in South Africa were preventable, they are political, and they stem from race socialism, from the ANC.
And if they go into coalition with the EFF, which seems like the most likely result, it's only going to get worse.
Right.
Should we move forward?
Indeed.
Here you are.
Thank you very much.
So, a scandal has taken place with a German politician that has entered into a bathroom and has taken a video of himself.
Don't worry, I'm not that cruel.
I'm not going to make this segment.
Whenever you mention a bathroom and a politician, Stelios, I start to sweat nervously.
What's going to happen here?
Yeah, I know some members of the audience know what I'm talking about.
That's not going to be my segment.
I don't make segments of this sort.
Right.
You'd never lie to the audience, would you, Stelios?
I would absolutely never do such a thing.
Right.
So, the first and foremost duty of thinkers is the pursuit of truth.
That's why I love gossip.
And I'm going to share with you a lot of the trivial gossip that happens with DEI, Barbie, Meltdown, and some other things about Ibram X. Kendi, because there was an article about him, and, you know, it's really juicy.
Now, Constantine Kissin hosted a debate that was about the Israel-Palestine conflict, and Breonna Joy Gray was there.
And after the debate, there was a sort of internet fighting between Kissin and Brianna Joy.
And it's absolutely funny.
So I want to show you some of the bits of it and some of the funny exchanges.
Quick question.
Who?
Brianna Joy Gray.
Who is that?
She is a hostess of Bad Faith Podcast.
Is that actually the name of it?
That's actually the name.
Right.
When people tell you who they are, believe them.
So to give you a kind of idea of the things she was advocating, but also the way she conducted herself on the debate, let us watch this clip.
And I'm going to put this to them.
I'm going to put this question to them, but what should Israel have done?
There's a family that's literally living in a house that you might still have keys to, tending olive groves that were your family's line of business if they haven't cut those all down.
And so the people who have had that experience, as you can imagine if you were in their shoes, are never going to let up wanting to have the right to return to their homes.
Why?
This is not a kind of 2,000 years ago sort of a dream.
This is an in my lifetime.
Are there lots of Pakistanis who want to return to India?
In my lifetime, you purged me from my literal home where I have keys to and now it's being occupied by someone who maybe immigrated from Europe, maybe immigrated from Brooklyn, and that injustice really hits home.
On top of that, you've been denied the right to have any kind of state, a passport, an airport, a country, the kind of things that constitute a country, right?
Joe Biden is now spending your tax dollars building a port in Israel, in Gaza rather, because Gaza isn't allowed to have those kinds of infrastructure, basic infrastructure projects on its own.
So what absolutely needs to be done is for there to be a right of return for the people who were purged out of Israel.
So Brianna, just so I understand, you think that Israel's response to October 7th would have been to build Gaza an airport, is that right?
Is that what you think I just said?
You have some serious listening comprehension issues, Eli, if you think that that's what I just said.
No, I'm trying to get it.
You just gave a long, eloquent soliloquy.
I can slow it down for you and say it again if you're struggling to understand, Eli.
Would you like me to say it for you again?
I'm not struggling to understand anything, Brianna.
I'm asking you.
You were asked what Israel should have done, and you gave a long soliloquy about how Gaza doesn't have infrastructure.
As the moderator, I do agree with this.
So I'm asking, is that what you think Israel should have done in response to October 7th?
You have not answered my question, which is fine.
I'd like to see her apply that to Britain.
I was about to say she's just made the case for the right to be a migration restrictionist because you're an indigenous European and you have an entitlement to your homeland.
But she won't because she just hates white people.
Her argument in the debate, because I watched all of it, was that Israel should become a multicultural state rather than an ethno-state.
That's her whole angle in the debate.
But you see the way she conducts herself.
So, you know, she makes some points that were a bit long winding.
A person from the other side asked her, you know, is that an implication of your point?
She was, you could see she was a bit agitated.
She was gaslighting and obfuscating.
Yeah.
So I want to show you something else about this because she said that...
She made an interesting interpretation of what Hamas is about.
Let's watch this and... When Hamas is talking about eliminating Israel, it's talking about not killing all of the Jews.
It's about eliminating the idea...
It's about limiting the idea of a Jewish state, inning a Jewish state, inning an ethno-national state, and having a state more like what we have in the United States of America.
So Hamas wants liberal pluralism, is genuine.
Yeah, there's famous liberals in Hamas.
I also like Dr. Evil laughing in the background there.
Yeah.
Yeah, total moron.
She hasn't read the Hamas chart.
That was like the Spider-Man laugh.
Yeah.
I'll get Israel, Spider-Man!
That's gonna get clipped.
So that was the interpretation she made that Hamas is, for some reason, when members of Hamas say that they should eliminate Israel, that what, according to her, they mean that they want to eliminate the ethno-state and introduce a multicultural state.
That seems to me to be completely Mistaken.
And a bit unhinged.
It was either stupid or a lie or both.
Well, anyway, so after the debate, there was some bad blood, you could say.
Konstantin Kissin has this tweet where he refers to her as DEI Barbie.
And she didn't like that very much.
He writes, imagine participating in a debate about Israel and Palestine.
Imagine answering literally zero of the questions you were asked.
Imagine talking over everyone else and being disrespectful to fellow panelists and the moderator.
Imagine storming off stage afterwards, screaming that everyone is racist, telling the moderator, I'm never doing this again, and throwing the microphone at the debate organizer.
Imagine then complaining online that your abject failure is the fault of the organizers, moderator, and crowd.
Now, I must say, I do think she gave some answers, because she did say that what she stands for is for a multicultural state in Israel.
That's her answer into what should be done.
But apart from this, what do you think she took issue with from this?
I've got two things to say before we get on to that.
First of all, an African-American lady blaming everyone but herself for her own failure.
Playing such a stereotype, certainly.
Yeah, exactly.
She's not really helping her case in that front.
And secondly, I'm surprised that Constantine's trying to position himself as a sort of objective moderator here as well, because doesn't he have a horse in this race as well?
Not to be sort of pedantic.
He's not being pedantic.
I mean, he's openly debated on the pro-Israel side on Piers Morgan's show and on his own show.
So I do think it's fair to say that he wasn't an impartial moderator.
So that is actually quite a valid concern that she could have.
Well, one thing though is that if you watch the debate, I think he conducted himself as best as possible, and he was interacting both sides and asking both sides tough questions.
I haven't seen the interview, so fair enough.
Yeah, so it's about an hour.
It's a very interesting debate, but that said, 100% objectivity is a difficult thing.
It's impossible.
Yeah, you can't do it.
So what do you think she took issue with from this?
I don't know.
That was my best guess.
That seemed like a reasonable argument.
She says here, truly can't get over a man shrieking D.E.I.
Barbie and claiming it had nothing to do with race.
We weren't discussing D.E.I., we weren't discussing my race or women, just fully D.E.I.
Barbie like that's not the most identity politics pill thing to ever happen.
You know that Austin Powers scene where he can't not say mole to someone with a prominent mole on his face?
It's like that.
That's my blackness.
That's mean magic right there.
I mentioned Austin Powers, now she has.
She says, truly one of the more racist and unhinged moments.
Unsurprising he's so indifferent to Palestinian life.
I knew I recognized her.
She was Bernie Sanders press secretary in 2020.
Right.
Got it.
If you click on here, it says host of bad faith podcast.
I don't know, maybe she, I find this a bit ironic.
Me magic strikes again.
Well, so here there is a very interesting exchange because she just showed this one here, only the DI Barbies have said, and she is trashing Kissin, and she says this from the neutral moderator of a debate on Israel's genocide in Gaza.
You simply cannot argue with racists.
On the ab side, they will expose themselves.
No one cares about your race, Brianna.
This isn't Harvard.
And she says, after the words, no one cares about your race, sir, you literally just call me D.I.
Barbie.
These Zionists are literally so dumb.
Again, if, and Constantine's a friend, so I'm not disparaging when I say this, if Constantine Kissing is considered the far right, the Overton window itself is doomed.
Also, is there even a racial element to D.E.I.
Barbie?
It could mean, you know, someone who looks like Barbie.
Yes, reverse racism.
And also you support D.E.I.
You don't necessarily have to be like, well, you're only here because of D.E.I.
Which I imagine is how she's taking it.
But that's not possible because Constance himself selected the debate participants.
Constance doesn't believe in D.E.I.
She believes in D.E.I.
So she's just thick.
So he's saying, note how she removed the substantive criticism of her to make it appear like she is being unfairly attacked.
This is after calling me a Zionist liar yesterday for saying something hundreds of people saw with their own eyes.
He's talking about the people who were present on the debate.
And here he is drawing a circle on some comments of hers, and he describes them as mostly peaceful DI Barbie.
I see why she likes Hamas now.
Yeah.
Well, we have here one Jirun Njoya who is trolling D.I.
Barbie and she says, that's brilliant on so many levels.
Accurate and nuanced, captures the race debates, the shenanigans at Harvard, the whole misogynoir, microaggression, the histrionics, D.I.
insanity, plus the fact they actually did demand a diverse Barbie.
Well played.
I still can't believe that Misogynoir is an actual thing.
That sounds like something I'd make up to make fun of this sort of thing.
I can't believe that her last name is actually Enjoyer.
It sounds like an average Enjoyer meme.
That's brilliant.
This is all just meme magic.
I follow her for many months now and in the beginning I thought it was a parody account just for that.
God bless her.
It's not.
And she's making really good points.
And Josh, I think you would definitely like her because she's a libertarian.
Oh, OK.
My belief just went to... Sorry, teasing!
Now we are going to present you stuff from the other side in support of D.E.I.
Barbie.
I Want to Talk Now says D.E.I.
Barbie is correct.
Blackness is a reference to being politically black in the N.H.J.
manner.
What D.E.I.
Barbie is saying is I'm a race activist.
I'm an activist for racism.
And Ida B. Wells, there is a difference between being politically black and being racially black.
I'm not defending anyone, but we all know this and should stop pretending that we don't.
That is NHJ herself, and she was the person behind the 1619 Project as well, wasn't she?
She still hasn't retracted, even after the New York Times themselves said, yeah, she made a lot of stuff up.
So, what is political blackness in her... Being a race communist.
And supporting the policies that make some countries impoverished.
Yeah, basically, we want to turn the US into South Africa.
District 9 was a good film.
Right.
We have here something else from Scott Adams.
He has the contrarian view coming.
He says, I don't endorse the views or methods of Breonna Joy, but she won the debate, in my opinion.
She did answer the big question.
She said Israel should become multicultural like the U.S.
To be fair, I think that Scott Adams is correct in this one.
She did have this answer and she did give an answer, however good it is.
And he carries on.
I don't endorse that view, but it's a clear answer.
It also clearly means the end of Israel as a Jewish state.
Yes, I know Israel has Arab citizens.
Can I just pause there?
I'm the complete inverse of this woman.
I'm saying like, look, if the Israelis basically want a state for Judaism, I don't...
Support Judaism and I'm a Catholic and I'm not Jewish and I've never been there, so I don't really care about it.
I just kind of want what Israel has, which is a positive birth rate, a Christian country and higher GDP per capita.
So if we can have that rather than this, like, identity-liquidating, unilateral, multicultural liberalism, that'd be fantastic.
So you're the opposite of Brianna Joy?
Yeah.
So you would not support Bernie Sanders in 2020?
Shockingly, no.
Oh, I'm so surprised.
Right.
OK.
And I think that this was hilarious.
And by all means, just watch the debate.
It's very interesting.
But it says a lot when people are resorting to name-calling, because debates are supposed to be about arguments.
They're supposed to be about reason and not feelings.
So when people are routinely appealing to feelings and making a performative mess out of themselves, I don't think that this is particularly productive.
And when people are calling you out for that, well, maybe they are correct.
Conor, do you want to say something about it?
I don't think the marketplace of ideas usually works for most people and it's because the other side is never going to be convinced.
And normally the people in the audience don't go to a debate to be convinced, they go to it for catharsis.
The best example of this was the recent immigration debate that Constantine participated in with Matt Goodwin.
All it was, was to smack around Aaron Bastani and Polly Toynbee to an audience full of Brexiteers that were primed in advance to be opposed to mass migration.
It was basically just saying like, look, we know we're losing our country, but if we win the argument in this room right now, we'll feel better about ourselves for a little while.
Most debates are just for morale boosting.
I would say there's also another element of just hearing your own position articulated back to you in a way that is more compelling than your own ability.
So you're also against debates in a sense?
I'm not against debates.
I think they're fun.
I enjoy them.
I always, I'm up for a debate whenever, anytime, anywhere.
They're about vibes more than they're about actual reasoned arguments.
That I think there is no doubt about this.
But I think what is particularly good about debates is that it's not about trying to convince the other side, because you won't do this, especially in high pressure situations like when thousands of people are watching, or thousands of people will watch.
So it's not about convincing the other two people you're talking to, but it's about making the case about your beliefs, And slowly and steadily...
Push for your beliefs to become a bit more widespread, a bit more acceptable, if they aren't already.
So it's not about the people you are discussing with, it's about the audience.
So it's a debate between people on a panel, on a stage, but you're not really talking to the people on the stage, you're talking to the audience.
And I think all good debaters have that in mind.
They're having a debate with a person, so they're having a conversation with them, but in their mind they're thinking of the audience, first and foremost.
Yes.
How it's done properly.
I do think it's less about argumentation a lot of the time though, and I'm not saying that's a good thing, I'm just saying this is how it's received, than it is about aesthetics and acting with confidence.
The great example of this is when JFK and Nixon had their first presidential debate.
Anyone who listened to debate over radio thought that Nixon won on the strength of his arguments alone when you take away that visual element.
Anyone who watched it on television or was basically in the room thought it was JFK just because he was better looking and more charismatic.
This is very true, and I think that's correct.
I've heard this.
So, there was an article in New York Times Magazine that talked about Ibram X. Kendi's downfall.
Now, if you're following the online spaces and stuff, you know that Ibram X. Kendi has a diminishing public image.
But it's good that the New York Times Magazine article just caught up with it.
I don't know, three, four years late?
That's good.
We have here Steve Maguire talking about it.
How low has Ibram Kendi's stock fallen?
Boston University feels comfortable having a spokesperson throw him under the bus in a New York Times Magazine article.
And he is highlighting, Boston University provided significant financial and administrative support to Dr. Kendi, and the center, Dr. Kendi, did not always accept the support.
A spokesperson wrote, in hindsight and with fuller knowledge of the organizational problems that arose, the university should have done more to insist on additional oversight.
So he was an incompetent liability?
He had the Center for Anti-Racist Research and there were millions, tens of millions of money that were poured into it and there wasn't a particularly exceptional output.
It's almost like all signals of institutional racism and all of this sort of reinventing of racism, if you will, is just about resource extraction, isn't it?
It's almost like he was overemphasising how much he was discriminated against to get more money.
We have yet another part of the text.
Several different models were discussed with Dr. Kendi, including bringing many of the projects to completion over the next two years and lessening the impact on staff, he wrote.
However, Dr. Kendi's preference was to terminate the ongoing projects and ask the funders to repurpose the fans for his new endeavor.
Now, I want to say something here because I have mixed feelings about it.
On one level, I think good for him.
He managed to con them, you know, within quotation marks, because he already said what his whole point is about.
He started with an axiom, and there was literally no research to be done about it.
He said any kind of Disparity of outcome is to be credited to disparity of opportunity.
So he literally says, wherever there aren't equal outcomes, there's racism.
What's to discuss there?
This is a sort of moral point.
It's a moral axiom.
There is no empirical research that would verify this.
So people gave him money for empirical research in order to support a proposition that isn't Capable or even susceptible of being grounded by empirical data.
It's just a moral axiom according to him.
This reminds me of that case of that girl in Bristol in the UK who set up a fake fundraiser for Black Lives Matter and she unwittingly diverted funds away to fund tens of thousands of pounds worth of Ubers for herself.
That's 70 grand, wasn't it?
It was ridiculous.
I was just like, where are you going?
Are you going around the country in an Uber?
What's going on?
But yeah, people like Kendi and like her, they're taking money from people who would donate it to perhaps more productive sources by their own ends, right?
And so I'm kind of glad that these financial black holes exist because, poor choice of term, because they soak up the money that would have otherwise done more harm.
I need to think before I speak, I think.
I think I need to think as well.
You're right over there.
But the point is though that, you know, it's sheer audacity to expect research output if you just give money for research, if you fund research.
How dare you expect research output?
My goodness, it's almost like that's the entire structure of academia.
We have here some tweets by Christopher Ruffo talking about this.
That was the research.
That was the research.
Those were the findings.
professor recently accused of plagiarism was an inaugural faculty member at ibram kendy's center for anti-racist research which produced almost no work collapsed into infighting and had to lay off nearly half of its stuff that was the research that was the reason those were the findings yes here is the article and rufo is saying uh the grift is over
henry you cushed in on george floyd you sold some children's books but your ideological ponzi scheme has been exposed you You couldn't define racism, your research center imploded, and you debunked your own theory in a single tweet.
Now, before I show you the tweet that Rufo is talking about, it's really funny to remember the problem with defining racism.
He was giving a speech.
Everyone knows this, but you know, let's repeat this.
And someone asked him after the speech, you know, can you define racism?
And basically he says it's racist policies informed by racist ideas.
So this isn't particularly good as a definition.
Did he pull that from the Oxford English Dictionary?
I don't think so.
I can't wait for Matt Walsh's next documentary.
What is a racist?
Well, a racist is a racist, obviously.
Normally, when you define a term and you are giving some sentences that are supposed to explain that term and its meaning, they shouldn't have that term featuring on them.
It's a work of laborious.
Yes.
And he is talking about this claim here, which says more than where Ibram X. Kendi said on On the 29th of October 2021, more than a third of white students lied about their race on college applications, and about half of these applicants lied about being Native American.
The Elizabeth Warren method.
More than three-fourths of these students who lied about their race were accepted.
Yeah.
I wonder if there's an advantage to not being white implied in this tweet.
Well, if you enjoyed the gossip, I'm very pleased you did.
Right, let's go to the video comments.
This woman's voice is just moving.
I promise you, you will cry.
Yeah, I've been at a few services, I've been at a few services, but that services, but that does happen.
A few over-eager members of the choir try and sing the psalms on a Sunday and you're like, ooh, not quite the right note.
Singing's not for everyone, is it?
Let's go to the next one.
It looks like I have a new customer here for my birth food.
That's a chipmunk.
Unfortunately, my squirrel friend has not been coming for some time now, but the chipmunk is really cute too.
This is very wholesome.
That's delightful.
Please keep us updated on this.
This is the kind of thing I watch in my spare time.
Yeah, so do I. Dodo videos.
I've watched, like, animal rehabilitation where they, like, take in wild animals that have been hurt and people trying to build gardens to attract wildlife to it.
I love that kind of stuff.
I have two late-night YouTube binge habits, and it's forged in fire, so knife-making, and then the other one is like dodo videos of some gopher running up to a security camera and obnoxiously eating vegetables in front of the farmer.
It's just things like that.
Me and my old school friends, if you say, it will kill, like that, it will just spawn a series of quotations that will go on for at least about a minute.
You know, there's another side I have.
I send you the debaucherous videos.
Yeah, the torture.
But there are some other people like Daisy that I send wholesome videos like that.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Okay.
Thank you.
You can apply if you want to be considered about Celios's tweets that he sends me.
I think about a third of them are naked black women doing things.
I think the last one is very funny.
The last one you sent me was a naked black woman on top of a car on like a motorway or a highway.
And that's just like, what is even go?
That just can't be safe.
Anyway, as for video comments, if you're thinking of submissions, send us more cute animal videos or direct questions.
That's lovely.
Let's go to the next one.
Hello, beautiful people.
What?
you Thank you, Rodrigo.
Is there any context for that?
Stelios, you sounded a bit gruff there.
You sounded a bit distorted.
Well, what can I say?
Almost like a guitar.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Should we go to the comments?
There are many comments, but also donations.
Lovely, I'll go through some.
So Henry Ashman on the website, whilst it's nice that Farage is getting back involved in the political front line, it is still with reform.
He's now the leader of the party but Tice is still involved and I've not seen Farage address any of the deselections at the request of Hope Not Hate.
I'm not in the Clacton constituency so I can't vote for Nigel but I also don't see any reason why I should support my local reform candidate because until I see otherwise it's still fundamentally the same reform party.
So there's multiple granular levels at this.
The local reform candidates, I've met quite a few of them, they are very on side and they really don't like what happens at Bow.
For example, they were supporting the question leveled at Richard Tice directly about the deselection of Beau and like on behalf of Hope Not Hate at the New Culture Forum's annual conference.
So those people are very plugged in and they're probably watching this and God bless you, I hope you do quite well.
You will not get Farage addressing hope, not hate, unless someone like us asks him.
And there are plans for people that think the same way that we do to ask him about this specifically and ask for action to be taken specifically about hope, not hate.
Because I can't just keep getting away with smearing sitting politicians and members of the public like this.
But you won't see, I don't think, anytime soon, you'll see an apology or a reselection of Bo and Dan.
And I don't think Bo and Dan would want to run again anyway.
It is also worth mentioning as well, he was still, you know, the executive or the head.
I can't remember the exact title.
Honorary President.
Yeah, exactly.
So he still held formal authority when Times was doing this.
No he didn't.
No?
I don't know necessarily how it worked but I thought that there was at least some sort of back and forth.
Not really.
Tice didn't have final say over everything.
Isabelle Oakeshott also has a lot of input because she's Tice's partner and has a lot of say about strategy and who they pick as candidates.
I probably shouldn't say this, but I will.
Nigel put forward some candidates that Isabel personally vetoed.
And that's Nigel.
So, he didn't have quite the say that everyone wanted him to, but now, obviously, he has increased their electoral chances, leaps and bounds, over Richard, as the leader, and running.
Richard stood aside, and I think that's a sensible thing to do.
But, putting it this way, I don't see Nigel Farage doing an apology tour for what happened to Beau.
I'm not saying that's good, I'm just saying that's realistic.
North FC Zuma.
Farage isn't perfect, and frankly Reform's treatment of Bo is a disgrace.
But I'm going to vote for them just because it's a narrative shift in the right direction.
At least, I hope.
Brackets, not hate.
Very clever.
Thread North for $20 on Rumble, thank you very much.
With Farage in charge of Reform, hopefully Bo and Dan can be reinstated.
They don't want to either, I don't think.
I don't want to speak for them, but... Also, have we gotten over calling Connor Colin, or can we still have fun with it?
Was that a thing?
I haven't been reading the chat, so if you've been having fun... That's just playing off of them getting your name wrong in the mainstream media, wasn't it, where they called you Colin?
Oh yeah, byline!
Yeah, they're a bunch of morons.
Alright, Colin?
That's what we say when he comes in.
You alright, Colin?
Yeah.
I'll tell you proper West Country.
1787.
In the US, the traditional Republican Party has been killed by my generation.
33.
I'm an isolationist when it comes to international issues and anti-large corporations.
Small business are the future.
Yes, I don't think you're going to get any properly isolationist Republican politicians for at least another decade, because even the most America-first type ones in the Freedom Caucus are still very pro-Israel.
Also, it's very difficult to maintain your world hegemony whilst being quite isolationist in your politics.
It depends what kind of isolationism.
There are sort of blends that can work.
Soft or hard power, basically.
There's a difference between diplomacy versus actively funnelling the petrodollar around the world as a reserve currency.
If and when the petrodollar collapses, actually that isolationist position will be easier to make just on the grounds of infrastructure alone.
And I think that will come in the future, just won't be for a long time, I'm afraid.
D.E.
I'm an older millennial and can absolutely relate to the Zoomers' concerns.
My gym actually has more of a sense of community and belonging than the British nation-state at the moment.
That's very true.
Mainly because if you lift, you're more likely to be right-wing.
So therefore, you're more likely to be less resentful and pro-social.
Do you even lift, bro?
That's the question.
If you can't answer this, you're not included.
When's the lads hour arm wrestle happening?
I think everyone in the Lotus Eaters does weights, right?
Yes.
Damn right.
Bit of fighting here and there for most people as well.
Yeah, we even do it in the ring sometimes.
No.
I've seen the photo.
You know the photo I'm referring to?
What photo?
Okay, maybe... I'll send it to you later.
The Lotus Eaters sort of backroom bar brawling.
Thanks, Rory.
That was a really weird thing to be sent on like a Tuesday night.
Justin B. I'm with Josh.
Vote reform or spoil my ballot.
With Farage replacing Tice, maybe it would be worth voting reform.
If Nigel hadn't taken leadership, Tice was doing a lot to convince me to spoil.
I think that's how a lot of people feel for him.
And I think that's why Nigel jumped in the race.
I think people were actually telling him on the campaign trail, I'm gutted that you aren't running or letting me down.
And I think him saying that that's why he got in is sincere.
And I think that should be rewarded, even if reform aren't perfect.
Josh?
Okay, so Henry Ashman says, not sure what you're on about, Josh.
The Durban Street could be anywhere in London, Birmingham or any major UK city these days.
That's very true.
I just wanted an opportunity to complain about Swindon.
You never miss these opportunities, do you?
I don't, yeah.
It's a thorn in my side.
Cathartic.
I grew up in such a lovely part of the world and now I feel like I've, you know, in the nexus, you know, I'm in a vortex of the seventh circle of hell.
A bit much actually.
I'm so glad I don't live here.
Hey, there are parts of London that are probably worse.
Not my bit!
Wiltshire's lovely though, so I only need to go out of the city, or the town, and everywhere is beautiful again, so it's not that bad.
Bold Eagle says on Rumble, glad to see South Africa is living up to the stereotype of African nations, build nothing and steal from those who are productive and aren't African.
There is something wrong with their mindset?
Well yes, of course.
The way you become successful is you build something of your own, right?
You don't rely on other people.
Especially if you confiscate a complex system from another group of people with a different culture, and then across generations they can't maintain the system and it starts falling apart.
Shock.
The lights start going off.
Yeah.
Jamie Wright says, nice to see you talk about my home country of South Africa.
You poor git.
I wouldn't completely rule out ANC MK but if the MK aren't included in the coalition an attempted Zulu secession is possible as MK is now the ruling party of KwaZulu-Natal and the Zulu have a much more independent mindset than other black South Africans.
Well, that is true, obviously.
You're probably more attuned to South African politics than I am.
But yeah, the Zulu are a power base for Zuma because he comes from that province and so they see him as their guy, right?
And that's why all of the rioting when he was arrested was largely centred in the Zulu areas of South East Africa, sort of near Durban.
And that's part of the reason why they disrupted so many distribution centres.
But please let me know how I represented your country's politics, because we don't cover it enough, I don't think.
I'm trying to, you know, branch out.
I covered Mexico yesterday, South Africa today.
Who knows, maybe I'll cover Canada or Australia soon.
We did joke before we went on air about eventually when our budget expands, thanks to your support, to just not just operating things and bringing guests in, flying you out and doing Englishman reports from the front lines of South Africa or whichever other failed state.
Yeah, but I don't want to go abroad.
I kind of like Britain.
This sounds like a trap.
Josh, don't go.
I'm going to get killed and Conor's going to be there laughing for the views.
You look like an idiot abroad.
You need to ask the dude a question.
When is a gift not a gift?
When you're sent to South Africa.
Yeah, yeah.
No.
Don't accept.
Lord Nerevar says, what do you even do about South Africa now?
I mean, it's been backsliding into anarchy for decades now, they're going down the route of continuing slow decline and people are actively dying now.
This is the end of empires in the micro scale.
You can run it competently, you can turn these things around actually quite quickly with good policy, you know, in a couple of years perhaps you could have South Africa functioning again if you approached it correctly with the right policy mindset.
That's the kind of way I think it can be fixed, and I think that someone like DA, I think, the Democratic Alliance, they sort of have the right mindset of, yes, just don't persecute people and try and get the economy working, you idiots.
Or if you're a white Christian farmer and at threat of death, Hungary is the only country in the world that takes in specifically Christian refugees, so I'd leave if I were you.
Yeah, I don't blame people for leaving South Africa.
I mean, there's a certain point when something is perhaps too much of a danger to your own personal safety to risk saving.
But if you are staying and trying to save it, I commend that and I respect it.
So it's obviously your choice.
Annie Moss says, thanks Josh for showing the end result of DEI.
No power, no water, no restaurants.
And restaurants are the reason that we need all of the diversity.
Spectacular point.
Yeah, good point.
Kevin Fox, Zuma wasn't corrupt.
Lots of people use public funds to build an Olympic-sized swimming pool in their garden on the basis that it is an emergency water tank for the fire brigade.
Oh, African politics.
Astute as ever, Kevin.
Rude of the day.
Didn't you hear having food is white supremacy and we must do away with it at once?
Were you doing Humza Yousaf or Jared Taylor there?
I couldn't tell.
What's the difference these days?
White people.
It's like Hank Hill.
Sorry.
I'm going to read one more comment then I'll move to Stelios.
Paul Newbuyer, I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly, I'm sorry if not.
What's one of success is not just to capitalism but by adopting English common law.
I mean, we've not even continued that anymore.
It'd be nice if we did but it is also very important to keeping a civil society, not one that, you know, expropriates land from people.
Right.
Orange Juicer.
This is why I don't like Stelios.
You haven't given us the reason.
Perhaps you would like to give us an extra comment.
Like.
Right.
Lord Nereva.
It's almost as if race hustlers are fundamentally adult children and not to be taken seriously.
It's almost as if we have been saying this for years.
What a joke.
I absolutely agree with you.
It's just Bald Eagle 1787.
Thanks for the donation.
Hamas is a suicide cult.
They know they can't win, and they don't care how many die in the process of their unobtainable goal.
The amount of cognitive dissonance happening in her mind is astounding.
It is indeed.
It's a luxury belief.
She knows she'll never suffer the consequences for it.
Arizona Desert Rat.
Where does this lady come from?
Hamas hates the US.
I don't think she implied that Hamas loves the US as much as that the goal of Hamas, according to her, is to create a multicultural state and multinational state in Israel.
Israel itself is stopping Hamas from having pride parades, is her opinion.
Okay.
Omar Awad.
I'm sure trying to explain why white students applying as POC destroys his life's work would be as trying an endeavor as explaining per capita.
Josh, you are the person who is the per capita explainer.
I have been summoned.
Exactly.
Derek Power.
I think that debates work best when it employs classic dialectics rather than the Hegelian.
I know you're a big fan of Hegel, Stelios.
I have been known to be one.
I wouldn't even read Hegel.
I wouldn't even read you.
Alexander Dake.
They always get some insufferable leftists to take the pro-Palestine side in these debates.
They need to grab right-wing anti-Israel people who can actually argue the facts instead of some left emoting of Jews equals white and Palestinians equal brown.
Brown good and white bad.
So Palestine good and Israel bad.
Thomas Howell.
All of the problems you mentioned, guys, are all interpretations of the erosion of high-trust society and all of these are still upstream from the real problem.
Low-trust fiat currency manipulation, stealing the wealth you keep post-tax.
It's not purely material conditions.
It's not.
Because the culture itself has to generate a level that keeps the prosperity afloat.
The culture is not just purely downstream of the money supply.
That's the way of looking at it.
One thing to say about this, because I hear this constantly about high trust society and how people trust institutions.
I think that this is In a qualified sense, this is a bad thing.
People should be sceptical of some institutions like the government.
When there is too much deferring to the government and people stop paying attention to it and trust it, you get the world we live in right now.
I think it's better to be sceptical, you know, too much on the side of scepticism than to be too trusting because then you'll have your trust abused, right?
But of course, scepticism can also lead you down if you're too sceptical.
Yes.
Down its own questionable route, but I think it's less likely.
That is why they say trust and verify.
I don't think when he says high trust society, he means a trust of institutions and following it.
I think he means a sort of like neighborly high trust society of where you can trust those you live around.
So like Japan is as high trust society as England used to be, for example.
It shows that it's not just an Anglo thing.
It is a conscious choice and it's a cultural thing.
And to erode that high trust society is actually a product of the institutions inflicting it upon us, you know, and our criteria.
In this sense, I absolutely agree.
Absolutely.
And Arizona Desert Rat.
So here's my question.
What gives the U.S.
the right to impose its own culture on another country?
That's a question that you should ask people from the U.S.
government.
The conceit of liberalism.
Right.
And I think we have an extra minute.
And Connor, I want to ask you something, if you would like.
So what would you say to some people who talk about control of the position?
In what sense?
There are some of the real hardcore pessimists who say that Farage coming back is basically control the position and all this is staged.
No, because I don't think they've planned things out for that long.
I don't think Farage is a containment man.
I think reform policy can inadvertently act as containment because it's set the new migration restriction as standard at five to six hundred thousand people a year, which is insanely high.
That's like an invading army level, so no.
But I think the Zoomers surrounding Farage are our guys, and so they're more likely to influence the reform campaign and the post-election coalition to be something akin to what we would want.
I'm not going to leak sources.
I've had conversations with these people.
Okay.
It doesn't mean all the politicians are great.
It means the people trying to shape what the politicians fit themselves into are certainly with us.
We know that at least a number of reform candidates watch our show as well.
So do conservatives.
Yeah.
So there we go.
Okay.
So I hope you enjoyed this and goodbye.
See you tomorrow.
Bye.
I saw this from the chat and thought it was a good point.
Oh yeah, no worries.
I think you are.
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