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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #919

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seats episode 919 For today, Tuesday, the 25th of May 2024.
	I'm your host, Connor, joined by Bo, and finally, Rafe Heidelman.
	Thank you very much for coming in.
	Great pleasure to finally be with you guys.
	Yeah, I've wanted to get you in for ages because you are one of the only people in media that you can regularly rely on to destroy the narrative without any hesitation.
	So your clips always do very well and eminent historian like for anyone who isn't familiar with what you do, do you mind giving a brief introduction?
	Yes, well I'm a historian, broadcaster and senior fellow at the New Culture Forum, which is a think tank doing much the same stuff as here at Lotus Eaters, fighting the good fights.
	And you can catch me usually on Talk TV or GB News, increasingly on Sky and BBC.
	I've been uncancelled after six years of not being allowed on the BBC.
	They brought me back, clearly not doing any due diligence on my Twitter feed.
	Um, but yes, that's who I am, essentially, and I write a bit as well.
	Brilliant.
	Well, if you do want to do diligence on Rafe's Twitter feed, there is in the description and on screen, and of course, his YouTube channel as well.
	And I do advise going and checking out things over at the NCF, because I'll be popping up over there more frequently from now on as well.
	Before we do get into today's topics, which are the fact that the National Trust needs to admit they just Kind of hate white people for some reason, the sectarian future of British politics, and the fact that they hate Harrison Butker for speaking the truth.
	We do have two quick announcements.
	The first is that today is the last time you're going to be able to get 10% off the current merch line, because it will go away tomorrow, because we have brand new products and ventures that we may or may not have been teasing for the last few days, so look forward to that.
	And tomorrow I did want to foreshadow Thomason Talks at three o'clock, because I'll be doing an interview with Stefan Molyneux, who is a very contentious man.
	I couldn't keep my excitement down.
	I was aware of that, but I'd forgotten.
	That'd be great.
	Yeah, I know.
	I've greatly respected Stefan's work for multiple years, and since 2020, he was one of the highest profile cases of cancellation.
	Because if you read his Wikipedia page, it basically reads like a rap sheet, and it's all genuinely defamatory, as one of the founders of Wikipedia said.
	It's basically leftist propaganda at this point.
	This is the first interview he's done in four years, and I'm grateful he's got the chance to speak to me.
	And I will also be speaking to Liz Truss, and that will come out the week after.
	Should be fun, but without further ado, all right, let's get into today's news stories.
	The National Trust has decided to declare its hatred, or at least attempt to gaslight English people out of their own history, um, of white people, which is a very odd strategy considering And I don't wish to stereotype here, but I don't think most of the people attending the National Trust's parks and stately homes and the like are of the diverse diaspora that have arrived in the last couple of years.
	Could be wrong, but this sort of started because they've started a new initiative to get diverse communities out walking In their parks.
	This is very much the flavor of the decolonize the countryside movement, which whenever they say diversify or decolonize, it inevitably just means fewer white people because they have a pathological hatred of, you know, folks like me with a paler complexion, I suppose.
	So a bit of the details on the project.
	It's called Walk Together Pathway, and it brings together eight walking groups to help boost representation among non-white ethnic groups.
	People from those ethnic groups accounted for only 1% of National Park visitors in 2019, according to the National Trust, which is funding the scheme.
	And I know the National Trust is a registered charity.
	Do you know how much money they actually get from the government?
	I'm assuming they get a fair amount of subsidies every year.
	There's gift aid I know that for everything that's brought in but I've got no idea how much they get to make but yeah I mean they need to be reminded this is the National Trust not the Global Trust right and yet they're pushing ahead also with this terminology of global majority rather than ethnic minority and it's clearly an attempt made to belittle the achievements of white people of the West of Britain more broadly to undermine to make them seem like an irrelevance and being inconsequential.
	And actually, this huge term, global majority, I think is inherently racist, obviously, because it's lumping together the Japanese, the Mexicans, and the Afghanis, a lot of people who have that much in common, and yet they're seen as this sort of one behemoth entity.
	And quite frankly, there's always an idea that the Western ideal of going out into the countryside is a universal ideal.
	And just because Westerners do it, doesn't mean that it's a universality.
	In fact, you know, I mean, you know, 95% of black people don't swim.
	We've learned that last year, it came out in a report.
	Is that because of systemic racism?
	Obviously not.
	These are cultural issues.
	There are reasons why certain cultures don't engage with the countryside.
	And yet for some reason people on the progressive left don't understand that and it's essentially pushing forward a white ideal for other cultures.
	We had this when you remember a few months ago Google got into trouble for if you typed in white people in Google images you'd get ethnic minorities coming up all the time and they were raked over the coals for that and they were and so they said oh well we will adjust this so that white people will show up but when it comes to universal things we will still represent the global majority such as dog walking and I said what?
	Only white people walk dogs, right?
	This is yet another way that they don't understand that there's a uniqueness to the Western mind and Western psychology.
	And, you know, in Africa, in Asia, people don't have dogs in the house.
	They don't take them for walks and so forth.
	And yet this is the mindset we're fighting against.
	There's a funny thing in the film, The Man Who Would Be King, set in the Victorian period, where people from Central Asia think it's crazy that Englishmen name dogs.
	It's mad to name a dog.
	And treat it as like a beloved member of the family and take it for walks and stuff.
	Yeah, it's a classic thing going out for a walk in the countryside.
	The Victorians love to do it.
	There's a great bit in Kenneth Clarke's, Lord Kenneth Clarke's Civilization.
	Talk about how Victorians would often think nothing of walking 10 miles to post a letter.
	Well, there was a lively debate after the invention of the steam engine with John Ruskin and other members of the Victorian intelligentsia that were petitioning against putting trains to go through the Lake District, because the argument was, OK, it allows more people to access it and therefore go and get in contact with nature and escape the smog-filled cities, but also are we going to pollute the purity and beauty of the countryside by bussing people out like tourists?
	And so this was a serious concern about British heritage and conservation, and those kinds of conversations just weren't had in other areas of the world at the time.
	The other thing is I've been a member of the National Trust a couple of times in my life, it's It's not cheap.
	They get a lot of money from their membership.
	And English Heritage.
	I've been a member of both at various times.
	And they don't just do parks and walks.
	They do all sorts of things like there's stately homes, ruins of old abbeys, all sorts of things, both English Heritage and National Trust.
	And yeah, it's old white people, largely.
	Many a time I've been to a country home or some ruins, and I was by far the youngest person there.
	So, again, it's just another captured thing, isn't it?
	It's been captured by ideologues, anti-white, anti-Western ideologues.
	And, you know, it cuts right to the heart of things.
	You know, there's some things it doesn't really matter if it's captured and subverted or it doesn't matter too much.
	But, you know, like if when people are trying to desecrate the Cenotaph, it matters.
	If National Heritage and English Trust have been subverted, it matters.
	That matters, I'm afraid.
	So, yeah, this isn't just like another one of our segments about, oh, look at this bad thing.
	It really matters to me anyway.
	It's the equivalent of trying to retroactively engrave ebonics onto the Rosetta Stone.
	It's just an act of cultural vandalism.
	Yeah, I mean, the National Trust are quite literally custodians of our heritage, at least in England.
	There's another one up in Scotland, obviously.
	And, you know, I keep trying to explain to people that we are living now in a post-revolutionary society.
	The revolution's already happened.
	You don't have to have red flags flying from rooftops.
	There are cuckoos in the nests of all of our institutions.
	And the National Trust, you know, once they start, once the ideological apparatchiks inside them start using terms like global majority, this is newspeak being imposed upon us.
	And they're using it as a cudgel to bash us to say, well, you are in the minority.
	But actually, I think the fight back should be, well, why hasn't this global majority dominated the world for the last 500 years, you know?
	Actually, we should be talking about Western exceptionalism, and how come the West is so unique that 90% of the world's inventions are from the West?
	So why hasn't this global majority been able to do any of that, you know?
	Why was it, you know, for example, it was only in 2010 that a man walked the entire length of the Nile.
	Where was he from?
	England.
	It was in 2015 that the first person ever walked the length of the Amazon.
	Where was he from?
	England.
	It was 2019 that the first person walked the length of the Yangtze in China.
	5,000 or however many thousand year old civilization.
	Where was he from?
	Wales.
	There is something unique about the West, particularly the Anglosphere, I would say, and we don't have time enough to discuss it all here, but even the psychology of the Western person is unique.
	Even the spatial awareness, facial recognition, is worse amongst Westerners than it is amongst non-Westerners.
	There are so many different areas in which you can actually discern a very different psychology.
	And there are reasons for that, in particular because the church banned cousin marriages within degrees of consanguinity and resulted in the nuclear family that doesn't exist anywhere else.
	Because of that nuclear family, Westerners had to trust other people.
	That's why you get the emergence of guilds, Of chartered towns, university towns being established and that social trust in other people led to the individualism and the dynamism and the social trust that creates strong economies and innovation and that was one of the reasons that the West is totally unique because the West sees the world differently to the global majority and that's something which we should be celebrating here in the West rather than constantly wearing a horsehair shirt and self-flagellating about our perceived wrongs and
	That's completely correct.
	I mean, the funny thing is, so for those who aren't aware, the Global Majority Framing has been adopted by the National Trust, and Kemi Badenox made some noise about this, and I'll read a bit from her response shortly.
	But the Global Majority Heritage Framing was something that we balked at a couple of years ago.
	I spoke about this last week with Karl and Ralph Schollhammer.
	In terms of, the Global Majority is a framing that doesn't make much sense Applied outside the Anglosphere context.
	It's kind of like when the Smithsonian during 2020 made that chart of quote-unquote white, capital W, white behaviours.
	But it was like the King's English and being on time and queuing.
	These were English behaviours.
	These aren't necessarily native to the Dutch or the French or the Italians, you know.
	So by saying global majority, unless you're speaking about English standards versus the rest of the world who do not have necessarily respect for the countryside or that kind of small town propriety where actually no people do care about your business and this is why the English won't play TikToks aloud or go on their phone on public transport but increasingly as immigration has increased we all notice this trend and people standing on the wrong side of the escalator and things like that.
	That's the only way it makes sense of where the global majority do not necessarily behave like the English and we are a minority but the interesting thing that's revealed there is okay If they really cared about minority rights, if they were so concerned about ethnic minority rights in England and it was on the principle of we want to protect minorities, then if the English are the true minority globally, why are you not for English conservation?
	Why are you engaging in active vandalism of our history?
	And it's because it's not that you were ever concerned about minority rights.
	It wasn't that when Humza Yousaf got up and decried the whiteness of Scotland he was making a nuanced point about racial equality.
	It's just that this was a Trojan horse of the fact that you hate white people.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It just comes from, you know, think of maybe just like the Robin DiAngelo type.
	It's just an attack on, and they say it openly, on whiteness itself.
	Sort of the concept of, almost in the abstract, almost, but you know, not exactly.
	You made loads of good points about the first things that Anglos did, or Western Europeans should we say.
	You know, first people around the world, what was it?
	Portuguese, isn't it?
	But then Drake, you know, going around the world.
	First guy at the top of Everest.
	Why wasn't that a Chinaman or perhaps someone from India?
	You know, it's a Kiwi or an Anglo anyway.
	Lord Miles reviving the curiosity of the English explorer to dangerous degrees even, but you don't see that in many other civilizations.
	I mean, the Chinese Navy was huge, right?
	They had ships that dwarfed the English ships by comparison.
	They never had any desire to go.
	And that's the thing.
	It's that sense of adventure, the maverick spirit, the buccaneer-type spirit that propelled the West.
	And the West was at its height and greatest strength when it had self-confidence.
	and had that spirit and it's been the erosion of that which accounts in large part for the decline but this is actually more about an attack on the West than anything else and what you've seen from the National Trust and the Wildlife Country Link and other heritage societies is this attempt to demonize the countryside in particular As a white, colonialist, racist space.
	That's what it was called actually, a couple of months ago.
	And why are they doing that?
	It's because, you know, the English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland landscapes are intrinsic to those nations' identities, right?
	There's something deeply spiritual, almost emotional about our connection to the land.
	If you ask an Englishman to conjure up an image of England, It will always be the rolling hills, the patchwork quilts of, you know, England's green and pleasant land, you know, Elgar's Nimrod composed at Malvern.
	That's what they're attacking because that's the essence of Englishness and of British identity.
	Absolutely, because everything's on the table.
	From Doctor Who, to Only Fools and Horses, to the very memory of Winston Churchill, to the countryside itself.
	It's all on the table to be taken away, denigrated.
	It's a sickening crime.
	Sickening crime, almost unparalleled in history.
	I think the attempt is, as Camus pointed out in his essays, which we cannot cite or we'll get in trouble with YouTube again, but it's to gaslight a particular people out of the story they tell themselves that keeps them a cohesive people.
	Because you propagate yourself as a civilization, as a nation, as a community, a congregation, family, over time, by telling yourself a story about who you are, where you came from, how you survive, what you believe, and to root that in a time, a place, a context, A long tapestry of events prevents you from thinking that you are as interchangeable, fungible, and manipulable as this giant fleshy mass of the global majority.
	So, at the same time, it's saying, well, we're all the same.
	It doesn't matter whether you take one person from here and drop them here.
	They're just as British as you and me.
	But also, what is British anyway?
	And the only way we can define British is as uniquely evil.
	Slaver, settler, colonialist, even though the countryside itself was never colonized and actually Importing people from other places would amount to colonization.
	Head scratch, I suppose.
	But it's to gaslight you out of a particular identity so that you can't put up any defense against the erasure of your culture and history via mass immigration.
	And that's how you demoralize a society, right?
	This is back to Besmanov, you know, the KGB defector, exactly.
	Who said just this, you know?
	It takes a generation, it takes 25 years to demoralize a society, and that's by targeting their youth.
	And how do you do that?
	You denigrate or you eradicate their history.
	He told them that they have no reason to have pride in nation.
	And once you sever that link between a people's and their culture and their history, they're ripe for ideological takeover.
	And what was the first thing that happened in the communist world after the collapse of communism?
	They restored their old flag, they restored their coats of arms, their national honor system, and their history curriculum with great pride.
	Because they understood that's what they had been denied.
	And that was the one thing that actually kept the resistance going during all those years, along with the church obviously.
	As I say, orthodoxy as well.
	Yeah.
	It's so cynical, isn't it?
	It's sort of unbelievably cynical.
	That's why, again, Lord Clark talks about the art historian, not the politician of life today.
	He talks about confidence.
	That a lot of it boils down to confidence.
	All sorts of cultures and civilizations, empires throughout the world.
	It's all built on confidence.
	And it's only once you lose that confidence that you can be quite easily defeated or subverted or something.
	And yet it's very, very cynically, deliberately done.
	To the point where the countryside itself I don't know why I find it particularly disgusting and cynical, the push to say there's something wrong with white people in their own countryside, or let's flood the countryside with specifically non-white people for the sake of it, to demoralise.
	I don't know why that, of all things.
	Because you're defiling something beautiful.
	You're making it instrumental and co-opting it to a current ideological aim rather than letting it exist as a beautiful thing in and of itself.
	Something that's been cultivated as well across generations of people that valued it and put the hard work in and now you feel entitled to inherit it and despoil it just for your own virtue signalling and for your own contempt of white people as an abstract category.
	No thank you.
	But the important point you raised there is empire.
	And this is something I also wanted to get onto.
	It's that, okay, we are a global minority.
	Our culture is paling in comparison to the big homogenous blob of the global majority.
	And actually, what is Britishness anyway?
	Because we're all a nation of immigrants.
	Except when we can be uniquely beaten over the head by something that we have a great moral record on.
	Compared to all other civilisations, but yet it's contorted and reflected back on us to think we don't have anything to be proud of.
	You don't know what I'm talking about.
	There's another call for reparations.
	Oh, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun!
	This time dressed up in the pseudo-legitimacy of the words of an Anglican theologian, because as if the Church of England hasn't been defiled enough these days.
	Now this is a Cambridge academic who's come out with a book and his name is Dr Michael Banner.
	And he's demanding that Britain pay Caribbean nations more than 200 billion in slavery reparations.
	So he's come to this number based on the compensation claims made by slave owners when the trade was first abolished in 1833, and adding compound interest, and he said the total owed should be 205 billion.
	He said despite the UK government rejecting the case for reparations, he's urging the Scottish government particularly to quote, show leadership on the issue and pay back its share of 20.5 billion.
	Now, I think this person is probably a white bloke who has been guilt-tripped by liberal priors into flagellating at the cause of anti-racism to prove his woke credentials.
	But there is a particularly insidious bent to this where foreign nations or racial grievance activists will set up a grifting industrial complex just to weaponize our own liberal sensibilities against us to cede to themselves resources they did not earn because they were not slaves.
	We did not enslave them, and so why should we pay any of this?
	Precisely.
	Well, the first thing to say is that this chap, Dr. Banner, is a CUV clergyman and a Cambridge academic.
	In terms of woke intersectionality, I think he's at the core of all this.
	This is the same chap who defended one of his colleagues who said that Jesus had a trans body and that the wound in his side was actually symbolic of a vagina.
	That bloke, yeah!
	I have people that went to that particular act of blasphemy and walked out midway through, so yeah, I didn't realise he was the same fella, that makes sense.
	But you're quite correct, this is purely a race grift going on here, and you know, I try these days not to start out by saying, well we ended the slave trade, da da da da, you know, the point I want to make to people is in what way has slavery actually denigrated your life, and how have you not
	Basically, benefited from living in the Caribbean because as horrendous as slavery was for your great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfathers, eight generations back we're talking about, had they stayed in Africa, your life would be undeniably worse than if you were living in the Caribbean.
	You know, most people who came in over on the Atlantic slave trade came from places like Benin and Nigeria, right?
	So the life expectancy in Benin is 60.
	In the Caribbean, it's about 10 to 15 years higher.
	In Trinidad, it's 74 years rather than 60.
	You know, the GDP annually in Benin is $1,300 a year.
	It's $16,000 in Trinidad, right?
	More than 10 times higher.
	So by any measure, the lives of people in the Caribbean is far better than those living in West Africa.
	And you see that because obviously there's not a great migration track going from The Caribbean to West Africa.
	Never mind the black people living in Britain or America, for example.
	Also, why should the British taxpayer be paying reparations?
	Out of a population of millions, there were only a few thousand slave owners, perhaps 3,000 slave owners, right?
	The majority of people in this country descend from people who lived lives of abject poverty and hardship akin to serfdom.
	Why should they pay?
	Then again, what about black people living here, Whose ancestors also come from Jamaica.
	Why should they be paying reparations to people in Trinidad and Tobago for this?
	The entire thing is a nonsense and it's a race grift and it's not about slavery.
	None of these cultural things are about slavery.
	This is all about undermining Britain and the West.
	If this was about slavery, these race grifters would be equally vocal about surely the far more serious issue of modern-day slavery, where seven in every 1,000 Africans today is a slave.
	That's 10 million people.
	Pakistan is the global center of slavery.
	You know, you've got Sadiq Khan telling everybody he's always the son of a Pakistani bus driver and he wants to have a slavery museum in this country, but when he went on an official visit to Pakistan, not once did he mention the issue of slavery when he was there.
	That's what's telling about all this.
	These people should be protesting outside the High Commissions of Nigeria, outside Cameroon and Sudan's embassy.
	We don't see any of that which speaks volumes about the true agenda here.
	Very, very good point.
	I've never heard the thing about the wound in Christ's side being vagina-like.
	Is it Longinus who did that?
	Was that the Roman centurion who did that?
	I didn't know that was... I'd never heard of that.
	Hopefully you'll never hear again about it.
	One of the most perverse things I've ever heard.
	But yeah, you make a great point there.
	It's not about slavery, like the moral aspect of slavery.
	It's about money.
	It's about trying to destroy the fabric of our society and about guilt.
	Also, the thing that I find odd is that we're told on one level that everything about our history is evil and wrong and morally bankrupt, etc.
	But that also, at the same time, diversity built Britain.
	I see somebody say there were millions of black people in Britain in the Roman era.
	Yeah, obviously absurd.
	Completely, completely... And they built Stonehenge, if you look at BBC Horrible Histories.
	Ever since Shadow Man, we've been black.
	Well, did you not know that the one trumpeter actually ran the entire Tudor court?
	Right, yeah.
	He was Henry VIII.
	They don't even try to make it make sense.
	It's just being attacked from every angle, and it doesn't have to add up.
	But this is all about creating new myths, right?
	All cultures, all civilizations are founded on myths, right?
	London was supposed to be founded by Brutus of Troy having defeated Gog and Magog, the giants and all of that.
	The new myths being established By Sadiq Khan.
	London was built by immigrants.
	Rishi Sunak putting out a 50p coin saying diversity is our greatest strength.
	These are the new myths that are being foisted upon our children to try to pretend and create this new dynamic and this new myth.
	And it's obviously an insult to the millennia of people who came before, who built St.
	Paul's Cathedral, who built our great cathedrals around the country and our castles and so forth.
	But you have to recognize what the true motivation and agenda is.
	Yeah, and the true motivation is clearly contemptuous anti-white gaslighting.
	And as you said, you don't necessarily want to start off with the fact of, but what about other slave trades?
	I think it's very telling, as you said, we exported civilization essentially to other countries, that prior to the establishment of the British Empire and the moral crusade between 1807 and 1867 that was the single most expensive foreign aid venture in all of human history to abolish the slave trade, these civilizations were Crucifying mothers and children on the roads to their kingdoms.
	They were turning around and King Geyser was saying, we sing our children to sleep at night with the song of an enemy vanquished of slavery.
	They were loving it and bathing in it.
	And all these riches, like everything from the Benin bronzes to all these precious metals, were still in the dirt and they didn't have a functioning country.
	So there should be some gratitude here.
	It's very telling they're not going to them.
	cap in hand saying well you sold millions of our african brothers and sisters into bondage and the barbary pirates took 1.25 million brits off the coast of cornwall and the like and sold them into slavery we're not seeking reparations from them instead they're going to cap in hand to the british and saying well we know that we can exploit your liberal prayers and your waning christian principles so um pay up whitey basically that's precisely it
	there were more africans held in bondage in africa than were ever transported across the atlantic and all those who were transported were enslaved by other africans europeans never went inland they just moored off the coast and went to the slave markets on the beachfronts and in these places uh yet there are no calls at all for this you know and we've had the statue of edward colston being toppled meanwhile museums are returning these beloved benin bronzes the benin bronzes literally depict royal slave owners
	And they've been returned to the descendants of these slave owners, who's now put them on private display so the public can't even see them any longer.
	And yet no one seems to think there's any problem at all with that.
	The Arab slave trade, of course, existed for hundreds of years before the British or the French or Europeans arrived in Africa.
	And when the British and the French were trying to abolish the slave trade, the amount of resistance they had from Africans who wanted it to carry on because it was such a lucrative industry for them.
	You know, the reason we don't have a huge number of black people in the Middle East is because the Arabs were so brutal they would castrate all the slaves going over there.
	But it's clearly here a desire to portray the West uniquely as evil, even though never in history had a nation actually worked against its own economic self-interest for the moral good.
	You know, the evangelical zeal that went through Victorian Britain, the second half of the British Empire was atoning for the sins of the first half of that.
	Two percent of GDP was spent on the West Africa squadron.
	That's equivalent to our entire defence budget today, and we don't get any credit for that.
	So rather than, you know, as I say, self-flagellating, we should be celebrating this fact.
	The Church of England should be at the forefront of saying We were the ones who started all of this, along with the Quakers.
	Instead of that, they're talking about 40 billion or something of reparations that they have to pay.
	I mean, that's a complete nonsense.
	We hear endlessly about people like Coulson, or just the evils of the transatlantic slave trade, but we very rarely get told about the abolitionist movement.
	There's not sort of a Channel 4 do a week on the abolitionist history.
	You don't really hear it, do you?
	Or you mentioned the Barbary slave trade, the North African coast there, and well over a million people, and Jefferson went to war over that.
	Don't hear about that, but you do hear about the handful of slaves he had at Monticello.
	Yeah, the Arabs, I mean, King Faisal still had slaves, black slaves, in the early 20th century.
	Here's pictures of him, I'm sure you've seen them, at Versailles, with a giant Sudanese slave with him.
	Slave!
	There's open-air markets still in Libya to this day.
	Right, yeah.
	You've mentioned Pakistan, India, China, in Central Africa itself, to this day, giant slave markets.
	Hundreds of slaves sold every week in Libya.
	But then they just had that film out recently.
	What was it called?
	Warrior Women or something?
	The Woman King!
	The Woman King, right?
	This is celebrating the warriors of the Kingdom of Dahomey and Benin.
	They would sacrifice thousands of slaves.
	They had ritual annual sacrifices.
	Hundreds of thousands of slaves eventually were murdered there in the most brutal treatment possible.
	And yet it was fine to make this film with no mention of that at all.
	But could you imagine a film being made in a positive light about George Washington or Jefferson today?
	That wouldn't happen.
	And yet here you have clear evidence of a brutal, murderous, slave-owning regime and that becomes a blockbuster.
	The great irony of that, well it lost a lot of money, but there you go.
	The great irony of that is as well is that the Homie Amazons, these supposed warrior queens, engaged in a firefight with French soldiers and the French for once didn't surrender.
	They suffered no casualties and killed the entire Amazons and the rest of them surrendered.
	The only ones that actually they did kill of the French and Inja were because the Dahomies masqueraded as prostitutes, got into the tents and then attacked them in the dead of night.
	Not quite the fighting force and black hat power we were expecting.
	So I suppose we can wrap up that segment with, um, anytime you hear the phrases diversity or global majority, just read it as a dog whistle for anti-white racism and move swiftly on.
	Right, okay.
	I'll let you guys do this.
	So I thought we could just talk about how multiculturalism or globalism has already led to just sectarianism.
	That's what that is.
	That's what that will mean.
	I'd like to sort of try and move the Overton window a bit on that, because I did a piece on this last week where I basically said it.
	But I just want to say it again.
	Hopefully people in the mainstream will sort of start saying that explicitly, using it, because you don't really hear that much, do you?
	Using the word sectarian, but that's what it is.
	Now you don't need much difference between peoples before sectarianism becomes a bloody, bloody issue.
	Look at Northern Ireland for example.
	Just Protestantism and Catholicism.
	That's enough for centuries worth of bloodshed.
	So if you bring in just an entirely different Sort of ethno-religious group of people that are hell-bent on proselytizing.
	Because that is really the problem with, particularly Islam, is that it is a conquering, proselytizing creed.
	That's what it is.
	They don't mean to assimilate.
	That's not what the Hadiths or the Quran tell them to do.
	So there's just a piece here in The Guardian where, you know, it's just becoming more and more just completely open.
	Even The Guardian will sort of talk about it.
	At some point where Parties like the Labour Party or even the Lib Dems and the Greens seem to have been co-opted to some degree by the forces of Islam.
	Because Islam is more than a religion, isn't it?
	It's also a political schema.
	It's a set of prescriptive laws.
	Yeah, it's a whole way of life, isn't it?
	Not just simply in which direction you pray and to whom.
	There's much, much more than that, isn't there?
	So, at some point the host organisms of the various Labour parties will be used up.
	And the Muslims will want to have their own various parties.
	They've got their own schisms, of course.
	They'll probably have more than one.
	The current movement, was it the Oldham Independent Movement, or something like that, where they're putting up independent candidates, like Shemima Begum's lawyer in Bethnal Green, who I've been on Twitter spaces with, and he's a very strange chap.
	So they're fronting people that have at least run interference for actual terrorists before.
	Bit dodgy.
	And we're meant to be expected that this isn't a coordinated effort, even though every single Muslim candidate, no matter what party it is, what issue divergence you'd expect they would have, they're backing them because they're, I don't know, constituents of the international Amma, I suppose.
	Well, yeah, exactly.
	It's sort of exactly that.
	Yeah, I mean, look, we often talk about devolution and Celtic nationalism as being threats to the integrity of the state.
	I think just as much, if not perhaps more so in the coming decades, is going to be the whole issue of ethno-religious sectarianism creating essentially Islamic fiefdoms as they become a critical mass in certain regions of the country, and certainly going to have the nation breaking into these random silos everywhere you go.
	And this, of course, is the policy of multiculturalism coming back to bite the Labour Party on the backside, right?
	Because it was the clear policy.
	We know this from Andrew Neither, the speechwriter for the Immigration Ministry in New Labour, who said that the purpose of mass immigration was in part to rub the right's nose in diversity.
	And the agenda, the driving force was clear.
	I won't cite Camus, but it was essentially, you know, 80% of ethnic minorities vote Labour, right?
	And it was clear over the decades to come, this would guarantee, at least the idea was, this would guarantee future Labour majorities.
	And certainly if you look at London, it's now a one-party state.
	You look at places in the north of England, all one-party states the plan, the policy, was succeeding at least up until the 7th of October.
	And now, of course, what you're seeing is you're seeing, you know, in the last few months, we've had MPs cowering in their offices in Parliament, scared to leave the parliamentary precincts, putting panic buttons in their homes, getting harassed on the streets openly.
	And it's been entirely, you know, a problem of their own making.
	And the Tories have only put the pedal to the metal in terms of increasing mass immigration to this country.
	And as a result of that, what we're seeing, we've imported Essentially into this country, the politics of Pakistan, right?
	We've got arson attacks, we've got mobs on the streets, intimidation, death threats, actual assassinations going on.
	Acid attacks is now the number one in the world.
	Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, we should never forget who did this.
	We must never forgive them because I think there has been no greater harm caused to the British nation in 2,000 years than mass immigration and the importation of culturally incompatible peoples into this country.
	It's far worse than the cost of fighting the Second World War.
	You know, it's far more consequential than Brexit and the EU referendum, yet we were given a referendum on that.
	The British people were never consulted about mass immigration.
	On the contrary, they voted in every government to do just the opposite and had that vote betrayed.
	And because of that, we now have a fifth column in this country who are actively fighting to Undermine our way of life our culture and our civilization and literally to overthrow our structures and systems and I think those Architects of all of this and those who aided and abetted it should actually quite frankly be charged and convicted of something close to treason because if the potential death of your country doesn't qualify as treason I don't know what will Absolutely.
	One candidate for that is Michael Gove today.
	Did you see him?
	Community secretary, because that's his latest job he's failed upwards into.
	He was giving a speech saying, we've had thousands of percentage rise year on year for anti-Semitic attacks ever since October 7th.
	It's like, oh yeah, that old British pastime of just beating up Jews on the street and burning down synagogues.
	Did you possibly import that, Michael?
	Did you just wake up yesterday with absolutely no culpability for any of this?
	Were your special advisors going around calling people like Miriam Cates trying to reduce immigration more national socialist than national conservative?
	Actual quote said to me in person.
	Do you think you might have some kind of responsibility for the fact that you've imported this sectarianism?
	No?
	Okay then, alright.
	We'll just leave it.
	You used the word fifth column.
	I've been using that for a while on Twitter.
	That there's now a fifth column and an enemy within and it really is as simple as that.
	That's not exaggerating the case in any way.
	Yeah you mentioned all sorts of things like mob attacks, machete attacks, acid attacks, honour killings.
	Honour killings didn't really happen in Britain before.
	FGM?
	I was just going to say, that's exactly the next thing that's going to be out of my mouth.
	Or even just the, like, Halal slaughter.
	All sorts of things.
	But no place in our green and pleasant land.
	It just should not be here.
	It's a travesty.
	And not just Islam either.
	In terms of people who have been migrating here from Africa, the Metropolitan Police now has a witchcraft training unit to alert Policemen, how to detect issues of child abuse linked to ritualistic practices.
	And some kids have died through this process, as we know, tragically, you know.
	Definitely, every now and again, a torso is pulled out of the River Thames.
	Import the world, import the world's problems, unfortunately.
	The NHS, as Harry covered, I think, last year, now runs Islamic genie exorcism training sessions.
	Oh my God!
	Actual taxpayer money is being spent on exorcising Islamic jinns and genies.
	Great, brilliant.
	I wonder why I can't be seen for my gammy leg or something and there's an 18-month waiting list for an ambulance.
	That's unbelievable.
	You see, there is a unity to Islam.
	One of the many things that characterises it is that there's one God.
	And Muhammad is his prophet.
	And there's one word, the Quran, you know.
	And that does build a unity despite their schisms.
	So you can get everyone from a Moroccan to an Indonesian.
	Or a Pakistani to an Arab and they have some sort of connected identity where they all agree on Palestine, for example, seemingly all do.
	And there you go.
	They're all prepared to sort of vote as a bloc, essentially.
	Well, it looks like they largely do.
	If you look at the if you look at Sadiq Khan and we've actually talked to in various ways about the psychology of your average Islamic voter is that, well, there's a male Muslim on the ballot.
	It's just an absolute no-brainer.
	Of course I'm not going to vote for anyone else then.
	The only areas that voted for Susan Hall were Bexley and Bromley, which is my local area, which is still majority English white boroughs.
	And they go, yeah, the white Christian woman that isn't putting up ules, yeah, I'll have her.
	Whereas everyone else is like, ethnic minority, Muslim, will give me social housing.
	And that's what Labour failed to realise and understand.
	Yes, 80% of ethnic minorities vote for Labour because that was the current party structure, but they first and foremost vote along ethnic, religious and tribal lines.
	And it's been the failure of Tony Blair's New Labour to understand that that has put us into this terrible position.
	So eventually they will make off very soon or have already begun to make just their own parties.
	They've just been sort of, you know, the Islamic Party of Uldum or whatever it will be.
	And, you know, they will certainly do quite well at the ballot box, I would imagine, because of it.
	And you talk about enclaves or little pockets of their communities.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You're not really supposed to notice that.
	It's interesting because, you know, we always think that France has a much worse problem with Islam than we do.
	In fact, 81% of British Muslims identify as Muslim first and British second.
	In France it's only about 42%.
	And that's in part because they're much stronger at enforcing this idea of a secular state and enforcing French values.
	We're more so-and-so accommodating.
	So you get more attacks in France because they're resisting this enforcement of secularism.
	We just say, do what you want to do.
	And so there's been, we don't get as much of a pushback, but because of that, Muslims here are far more likely to say that they're Muslim first than British second.
	And so I think in many ways, it's a bigger problem that we have here.
	You are commanded to, you know, the letter of the Quran and the Hadiths.
	comes before any other secular law.
	That's what you're told.
	That is the nature of the faith.
	So no wonder.
	Some people will say, some people have had their head in the sand, or some people who don't watch any alternative media, you only get all their information from the BBC or Radio 4 or something.
	They might say, who live in still a white area, might say, what's the problem?
	Stop being a bigot.
	Stop being a racist.
	Why is it a problem?
	Well, if you go to that next... Yep, I can do that.
	There you go.
	Well, so that's just one example where lots of local councils, lots of mayors and local government have been co-opted largely within their own enclave.
	So that's the mayor for Brighton and Hove, which is Slightly funny in a dark way.
	I don't think it is, no.
	That has to be a fact.
	No, no, I think that's just a bad camera.
	But you know, 52% of Muslims think homosexuality should be outlawed, whereas it's only 5% in the broader public.
	And here we have the mayor, the new mayor of Brighton and Hove.
	I wonder if he'll be opening Pride this summer.
	Right, yeah, that's why it's a bit funny.
	Rooftop party, I'm sure.
	Brighton and Hove.
	I mean, why wear that hat?
	Why are you wearing that hat, mate?
	That's why I thought it was a Yeah, if you go to the next one.
	Maybe the headers, yeah right, I'm not sure.
	Oh yeah, that one's not a Photoshop.
	And there's, the fact is, I've just picked out a couple, but there's loads, it's all across the country.
	It's all across the country.
	If you go to the next link.
	Oh yeah, my absolute favourite.
	Let's listen, it's just a minute or two at most, a minute and a half or so.
	The main issue that Londoners who are Muslim face is their children not fulfilling their potential.
	Often they're underemployed or in jobs that, you know, they can do better jobs but they haven't got the skills.
	Every Londoner who is on low income or not working will get free training to get the skills for jobs that are created in London, really important in this great city.
	The other big issue facing Londoners, particularly, you know, Londoners of Islamic faith, is the issue of housing.
	And so we need to build far more homes in our city because often people from minority communities want to live near a mosque, near halal food, near places where there are other people like them for a variety of obvious reasons.
	And they're priced out because there's not enough housing.
	So we're going to build at least 40,000 council homes, at least 6,000 rent-controlled homes.
	And the final thing to say in relation to Londoners who are Muslim is, look, one of our strengths is our diversity.
	It's something I'm really proud of.
	I've organized, since I've been mayor, Again, diversity there just means non-white.
	Because you're not diverse if you are Islamic, because you all believe the same thing.
	You're homogenous, actually.
	What it means is that you are not the white majority in the country.
	That's your strength.
	Just more schemes for work, more housing, somebody else's money, don't worry really where it comes from.
	Just explicitly talking just to sort of the Muslim community.
	I mean, again, it wasn't all that long ago, within my lifetime, when this just was not a thing before the era of Tony Blair's mass, sort of crazily large immigration.
	This is all a new thing within a generation.
	But you're not going to get any integration if you are actually reinforcing pre-existing segregated communities, you know?
	And we know for a fact that Muslims who live in these sorts of segregated communities are twice as likely to be extremists as those who live in wider society.
	So there's an incentive there to ensure you don't do precisely what he wants to do.
	And again, the criticism might be from sort of liberals or socialists or globalists or whatever it be.
	Why do you care so much?
	Like, calm down, what's the problem with it?
	Well, if you go to that next link of Blackburn, you'll just see that, um, play it if you like, there's... I'll turn the volume off on it.
	Oh no, hear it, hear it.
	Okay.
	It's a show of dominance.
	It's, again, it's a conquering proselytising It's crazy, it's why it's of more worry than Sikhism.
	Yeah.
	Or having even a large Chinese community or something.
	Well, there's, we've had, and again, raw numbers are still a problem for infrastructure, but we've had 100,000 Hong Kongers in the country.
	Any Hong Kong grooming gangs, anyone?
	No?
	It's almost like people behave in different ways per the story they tell themselves, and in the story of the Islamic faith, the British Christians are usually the villains.
	And, you know, we're seeing increasingly prayer taking place in the streets, closing down Whitehall, closing down streets.
	This is absolutely a show of dominance that we have here.
	And, you know, I just wonder all these turkeys voting for Christmas, right?
	Because one of the reasons I'm so strong on all this is because actually I like the freedoms and the rights that were hard fought and won by over centuries and over decades.
	And anyone who's a liberal should even, you know, the fact that we have Gay rights, women's rights, that the Jews can walk around the streets freely.
	Those are things to celebrate and be proud of and yet these same people who are embracing, you know, Islam will be the first ones in many cases to be, you know, fill the full force of Islamic Sharia law were they to achieve critical mass.
	You mentioned Sharia law as the next thing I was going to say.
	Yeah, the common law amongst the other things that you mentioned, sort of,
	rights and so there's the a thousand years of glorious tradition of our of the English common law well they want sharia law which is something profoundly different um and not in our tradition in any way if you go to the next few links so you remember this guy from a few years ago just the absolute disrespect um click through the next wasn't that cultural appropriation there with his sombrero yeah and this are you kidding me mate is this are you are you joking Of course it's not a joke.
	It's deadly serious, isn't it?
	How incongruous is that?
	This is like idiocracy.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's the barbarians within the gates, isn't it?
	No, he wasn't.
	They were on their way to register for the Roman census.
	You're an imbecile.
	OK.
	If you play this, again, people say, what's the problem?
	Well, this.
	Our countries are unrecognisable.
	Well, as you were saying, you know, misogyny is on the rise, anti-semitism is on the rise, you know what Gove is saying, and you know, this is the reason, and yet you never, you know, you always hear the BBC saying, oh, spike in homophobia, spike in misogyny, spike in anti-semitism, yet they never actually say why.
	Sex crime up hundreds of percent.
	Churches spontaneously burning down.
	Yeah, just on the Tube, in the London Underground, these signs about sexual staring and pressing and harassment, you know?
	How funny that that happens at the same time that white British are becoming only 35% of the population.
	They just happen to be all over the Elizabeth Line, which comes straight from Heathrow Airport.
	I think they're not very effective though, because they are printed in English, so I don't think new arrivals can really read and take note.
	So you remember when Sadiq Khan and also in the north of England, Metropolitan Police Force, they both tried to produce these warning videos about grooming gangs, about rape gangs, and in both cases they, well in one case they had to re-film it, because they did it originally with an Asian chap, and they said, oh that's racist, they put a white guy in there, and then Sadiq Khan's video, or same thing as that mate campaign, you remember?
	About misogyny and everything else, you know, it's the elephant in the room and no one can name.
	Same with Coronation Street.
	They did a grooming gang storyline, and they had a white guy invite all of his white friends, including a white police officer around, to assault his girlfriend.
	And it was like, yeah, might want to revise those statistics again, fellas.
	Go to the next link for us.
	They put the audio on this.
	I think it's this one.
	And again, people say, what's the problem?
	Well, they will explicitly say this is our country now.
	You can find many a clip.
	of saying, like, this is our city, this is our country, somewhere around Whitechapel or something, or Upton Park or wherever, Bethnal Green, saying this is, Sharia is on these streets now.
	This is our country now.
	Was it Tower Hamlets that had the Islamic patrols?
	I think it was more than one spot.
	East London, yeah, where they had, they even actually attacked some Muslim news agents who were selling alcohol and so forth and they had stickers of saying no gays allowed and all the rest of it.
	But you know, contrast that with six English chaps walking down there on St George's Day, the police will come and kettle them and pull them off.
	Horses driven at them, despite the first Palestinian protest and Hamas protest, they were firing fireworks at the horses and yeah, no repercussions for them.
	No, instead, actually, every single MP from every single blooming party, not every MP, but all the parties have representatives that are agitating to bring hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees in, despite all of them, according to Palestine's own internal polling bodies, saying, yeah, we quite like Hamas, actually.
	We're going to back them.
	And so we might have a bit of a grudge against Britain for setting up Israel and actively arming it.
	You know, might be a problem.
	Yeah, Nadia Whithom in committee, getting her panties in a bunch all about how there's not enough legal and safe routes for Palestinians to come directly to Britain.
	Yeah.
	I covered that on my show.
	Are you out of your mind?
	Is she out of her mind?
	Well, she is the MP for the Sontaran homeworld, so I'm not surprised if she wants an alien invasion.
	Well, we shouldn't be taking a single Palestinian refugee.
	Every single Palestinian refugee should be housed in the Arab world.
	Remember just after October the 7th, we saw hundreds of thousands of people in Jordan, in Iraq, Marching for Palestine.
	You know, they're very quick to talk and do the walk, but let's see the action.
	And given the amount of wealth the Arab world has from its oil reserves and so forth, there's no excuse for them not actually constructing their own refugee camps.
	In fact, I've argued for a long time that we should tear up the 1951 Convention on Refugees and create a new convention that says refugees must be resettled within their continent of Origin.
	So within Africa, within the Middle East, within Asia, we can take some Ukrainians because they're European and they're culturally compatible.
	This is the key thing.
	Saudi Arabia, no chance.
	Egypt, no, no, we'll build a bigger wall if anything.
	Jordan, are you kidding me?
	Jordan, we've done that.
	We've tried that before.
	That didn't work for us.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, everyone's on Syria.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, thank you.
	No.
	Everyone says Gaza's an open-air prison.
	One of those walls is actually with Egypt, thank you very much.
	Yeah, a prison built by Egypt, at least on the southern border.
	If you go to the next one, so yeah, that's the grounds of Westminster Abbey.
	There's no need to be praying there.
	There's absolutely no need to be praying.
	You're allowed to pray.
	We've allowed you in our liberal society to be able to pray if you want to.
	We shouldn't have.
	You're insisting on doing it on the grounds of Westminster Abbey, our most hallowed ground.
	Absolutely our most hallowed ground.
	More than Buckingham Palace, more than the Palace of Westminster.
	The Cromwell statue there is bad enough, but this is just taking the biscuit.
	I'm surprised the Dean hasn't invited them in to do it in the nave actually.
	I shouldn't laugh, I shouldn't laugh.
	It's, again, it's a display of dominance.
	It's that we, we rule here now.
	And the next one, oh this is just a little bit, I think this is in Upton Park, oh yeah Upton Park.
	Talk about colonization or decolonization or recolonization or whatever you want to say.
	If you're playing the clip you don't need any audio on this.
	It's just a whole, there's, there's like, there's basically hardly Any white people in Upton Park, where West Ham used to be.
	And these are all henna stands, mainly.
	Well, I think in Jim Rick's report, he found it was 78% of students in this area do not have English as a first language.
	Yeah.
	Well, in Brent as well, I think it's got the highest rates of non-English speakers too.
	I think if you can go on Twitter or something and you say, oh look, look at this video evidence of someone like Upton Parker Whitechapel being completely colonised and people say, no it isn't!
	Stop lying!
	Why are you lying?
	And it's like... But we have all... That's the evidence!
	The evidence of your own eyes and ears!
	But diversity is our greatest weakness, right?
	Because all the evidence, economically and sociologically, demonstrates that.
	The more ethnic diversity you have in a community, in a neighborhood, the more social trust declines, the less people engage with society, the more the actual fabric, the physical fabric of a community deteriorates, people don't feel invested.
	Because it's homogenous communities that feel that they have an investment in a community.
	The fewer friends you have, the more you stay at home.
	And in 2019, Danish sociologists did a meta-analysis of all 87 studies into the issue of ethnic diversity and social trust.
	And sociologists are the most left-wing academics out there, and they were horrified by what they found.
	They all showed, essentially, I think diversity leads to a deterioration of community, society, and economy.
	And that's what, unfortunately, we're bringing here.
	One of the successes of the West was its homogeneity and the social trust that it had.
	And the social trust is essentially being able to trust in your fellow man and fellow strangers.
	That's something you don't find in non-Western cultures as much.
	And of course, we've imported it into this country.
	I often say, just on a basic level, imagine three old ladies at a bus stop, right?
	If they're all of the same ethnicity, it's almost guaranteed they'll start up a conversation.
	But if one is black, one is Asian, and one is white, there's very little chance that that's going to happen in the same degree.
	And that's the little things in your daily life that makes your life poorer.
	Unless the conversation is about who owes who reparations.
	So just a quick more couple last clips there's a This is a little while ago now, but not that long ago again.
	This is a London Bridge So Westminster Bridge, Westminster Bridge And maybe skip it forward a little bit about about halfway through or so this all the guys selling things inside of the because I've Islamic funeral What?
	What, on the bridge?
	Yep.
	And people are shirtless and... There you go.
	Oh my word.
	Yeah, there's a London Eye in the background, a Big Ben we saw a moment ago.
	Because I know there's loads of people standing along there selling, like, loads of old tat and blasting Islamic music.
	If you put the audio on.
	I don't understand why that's taking place on a bridge.
	Because it's just another display of dominance.
	But what do they do?
	Yeah, I don't know how that works in Islam.
	Yeah.
	Absurd.
	Uh, the next one.
	Uh, well there you go, a bit later.
	Oh, a symbolic funeral.
	Full-blown.
	It's Westminster Bridge.
	No, they're just rugby fans, they're doing the haka.
	Again, there's no need to do that on Westminster Bridge.
	But it is because it's opposite Parliament.
	It's a display of dominance.
	And the fact is we've never seen this before, right?
	Muslims have been living in this country for decades and never before have we seen this.
	There's no coincidence it's happening now that they're reaching critical mass levels.
	I think Christopher Hitchens said it before, I've seen it at various places, that once you get sort of an Islamic community above a certain percentage, something around four or five 6%, something like that.
	Then it starts to actively sort of press its dominance.
	And that's exactly where we are now.
	I think we're at 6% or something in that ballpark anyway.
	And then, was there one more, another link?
	Oh yeah, this is just... Well, I remember this.
	Yeah, this is not, this is a year or so ago.
	That's Tower Bridge there.
	Is that Tarzan?
	Actually, stop playing that.
	I hate the call to prayer.
	I don't know who... Some people say there are one or two good things.
	Like, isn't the call to prayer beautiful?
	No, I don't think it is at all.
	It's the world's worst alarm clock.
	Yeah.
	I was staying in Marrakesh in a lovely Riyadh, and I didn't realise there were three madrasas, three mosques and a madrasa, 5am.
	If you want to hear blue language, my God.
	I just hear the sound of doom in the next few years.
	And the last thing, this is one clip and you can find loads of this type of clip.
	You need the audio for it.
	They're saying it's their country.
	This is Mohammad Rajab's usual gathering.
	- Obama!
	He's dirty, Obama! - Yeah, you get it.
	They're saying it's their country. - This is Muhammad Hijab's usual gathering. - So when I started the segment by saying, oh look, there's more Islamic mayors now, people say, what's the problem?
	Say, oh look, there's a bit of Whitechapel, Upton Park is colonized.
	What's the problem?
	They mean to take it all.
	They're coming for everything.
	They mean to take it all.
	Be under no illusions.
	People used to, people were sort of discontented in the 90s, like in Fight Club.
	We've got no great cause.
	Our grandfathers had the World War II and they had a great cause.
	This is one of them.
	There's nothing to fight for now.
	Well, there is something to fight for now.
	No, it is... It's colonisation.
	It is an existential threat.
	Because, just to push that point home, that's not a unique clip of them saying, this is our country.
	You can find lots and lots and lots of them.
	Well you just need to go to Speaker's Corner every Sunday.
	When I was a child it was a wonderful place to go.
	My parents would take me because you would have people discussing philosophy and all sorts of political issues and all religions.
	Now it's essentially taken over by Muslims and then the whole thing is essentially about Islam and maybe one or two Christian preachers but it's completely transformed.
	Or Hattem Tash when she shows up and then gets stabbed.
	Yeah exactly.
	If you say anything too anti-Islamic you get stabbed at Speaker's Corner now.
	And that's why no one's pushing back, that's why you're not getting the challenges, you know?
	So a very sort of doom-pilling, blackmailing segment there, but it's something, it's sectarian, the future is sectarianism.
	Religio-sectarianism of Britain be due to mass immigration and globalization and multiculturalism.
	We've seen elements of that in Leicester, of course, with the conflict between the Hindus and the Muslims that happened there.
	It's only going to get worse and of course, you know, by the 2050s, by my calculations, white British will be a minority in the whole country.
	So at what point does Britain stop being Britain?
	When it's 30% white British, is it still going to be Britain?
	These are the questions and the debates we should have had 20 years ago.
	Quite, definitely.
	Right, on to the last bit then.
	So, gents, have you seen this meme before?
	The meme is...
	They hated Jesus for he spoke the truth, and people often post this underneath tweets that are very unpopular but get a sizable amount of backlash.
	And the reason I'm referencing this is because Harrison Butker, who's a kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs I believe, the fellas that just won the Super Bowl fairly recently, he got up at a Catholic University, which you would expect would be on board with his views, and gave a speech about generally Catholic social values, or the kind of opinions that anyone about 50 years ago would have had and not been hated about, and the internet lost its collective blooming mind.
	So I'm just going to play a little bit of the clip, but the main one that really annoyed them was the fact that he has a happy relationship with his wife, he thanked her for playing a role in his life, and said to the women in the audience, maybe don't be girl bosses, Because filling out spreadsheets the rest of your life probably won't get you as much fulfillment as, I don't know, family and kids that love you.
	So I'm just going to go to that link now and play that. - Ladies and gentlemen of the class of 2024, you are sitting at the edge of the rest of your lives.
	Each of you has the potential to leave a legacy that transcends yourselves and this era of human existence.
	In the small ways, by living out your vocation, you will ensure that God's church continues and the world is enlightened by your example.
	For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment.
	You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives.
	I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you.
	How many of you are sitting here now, about to cross this stage, and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career?
	Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.
	I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.
	I'm on this stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation.
	I'm beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all, Hallmaker.
	How evil.
	How could he?
	Thank his wife for supporting his career and having children.
	So it went down well in the room at the time?
	Of course.
	The internet went mad about it?
	The internet actually wished death upon him, actually.
	Here's one tweet, for example.
	The best part about Harrison Butker being a misogynist psycho is that a lot of dudes can headhunt his stupid kicker backside for a 15-yard penalty next season to get a lifetime of credit with the women in their lives.
	Basically, hurt him, cripple him on the field and make it look like an accident.
	Because he thanked his wife.
	He's the kicker as well, they won't have much opportunity to do that.
	Don't encourage them both!
	Right, he should be fine.
	But yeah, it's weird isn't it?
	Who cares who that is actually?
	Although 4.3 million views, he's got quite a few views there.
	And he was doxxed by the city of Kansas actually, put out his location.
	So the so this is this is the thing you're referring to so that the Kansas City X Twitter account Made it made a tweet that said that he was gave out his exact location Actually, he said just a reminder that Harrison Butker lives in the city of Lee's summit
	I'm just saying oh but by the way just just so you know he's here so if you want to go hunting like you did for the Supreme Court justices when they were the the Dobbs decision got leaked and they were going to overturn Roe v Wade and people showed up outside Brett Kavanaugh's house with a knife and and rope ready to abduct him if you want to do that you can you can definitely go and do that that's obviously what they're insinuating it's evil so they put his life at risk so since the uh Missouri Attorney General has said that they'll be they'll be looking into this uh he accused the city officials of doxing Uh, uh, Booker.
	And he said, my office is demanding accountability after they dot book last night for daring to express his religious beliefs.
	I will enforce the Missouri Human Rights Act to ensure Missourians are not targeted for their free exercise of religion.
	Stay tuned.
	The city's mayor came out to defend the account, right?
	And he said, this is Quinton Lucas.
	Yeah, was it?
	The statement, the post was clearly inappropriate for a public account, but the city has correctly apologised for the error, and I will review account access and ensure nothing like it is shared from future public channels.
	And they put out a tweet basically grovelling, knowing that they'd done wrong because they'd let the intern have the reins, and just said, we apologise for our previous tweet.
	It's shared in error.
	Oh, was it an error?
	Yeah, it was.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	And it's too late now.
	The other thing is, he's saying, he's not saying anything even close to controversial.
	So it's like, I get that if a Supreme Court Justice or someone like Tucker Carlson, people turned up at Tucker's house one time, do you remember that?
	Not that I'm condoning it, further from it, but they are a political thing.
	So on some level it makes sense that you'd have political enemies.
	Okay, this is an American football player who said he's got a wife and family, like, He's encouraging men to be responsible.
	He's talking about parenthood and the importance of having, you know, two parents and a family.
	Everything about that was positive.
	Contrast that with, you know, you have students destroying artworks on campus.
	You've got professors talking about abolishing whiteness and white lives don't matter.
	No retribution, no kickback by the media lovies.
	And yet we have this.
	All I saw when I saw all this was like feminists are all pro-choice except when it comes to a woman's right to choose whether to stay home or go to work.
	That's the one choice that they're not allowed to have in this world, you know?
	Are you familiar with when Simone de Beauvoir was debating Betty Friedan in the 1960s?
	Simone de Beauvoir, the architect of modern feminism who wrote the second sex that they called the feminist bible.
	Delusional, predatory woman.
	Betty Friedan said, well, we should give women the choice to be stay-at-home mothers or to go out and have careers.
	And Simone de Beauvoir said, no, we need to take away the choice of homemaker from women because too many women will choose it.
	So it's never about choice.
	It's, in fact, socially engineering women to be contemptible of the men and children in their lives, which I think is fundamentally evil considering most women want children.
	And instead telling them that you should be very happy endlessly filling out spreadsheets for some corporate boss who could instantly replace you at the drop of a hat.
	It's telling women lies, and he's saying, well, you know, the woman in my life that loves me very much, she's added immeasurably to my career, we love each other, and I hope that you get the same thing.
	It's wishing success on those people.
	But I think the most resentful people They're always on the internet, they don't have someone around them to love them, to say, oh, darling, can you put the phone down and actually spend some time with me, are the ones that are most vocal about this, because he's essentially reminding them that their conscience is constantly nagging at them for all the bad choices they chose in life, and that other people just can't affirm your bad lifestyle decisions away.
	It's interesting you've got Stefan Molyneux on because he was one of the first people I saw that just explicitly said that all this stuff is a slippery slope towards genocide actually.
	An attack on the very concept of the family of women having children, it is having children at all, is just one element in the... The extinction of the human race.
	Yeah, to get rid of them ultimately and for all time.
	Um so yeah I mean obviously you say he's a Catholic that guy or he's Christian or whatever you don't even have to you don't even necessarily need that any normal human beings you have to have a relationship and have kids I mean it's just it's not controversial.
	I mean All the women, most of the women I know, I should say, stay at home, are housewives.
	Most of them are Catholic, but not all of them, but they're all erudite, highly educated.
	Many of them are Oxbridge graduates.
	I mean, the thing is that the reality is most women, I think, in this country who are going out to work are just making enough money to pay for the childcare, which I've never understood.
	Why not just stay home and look after the children rather than go out to pay somebody else to look after the children?
	And yes, you know, There are some very determined women who want to become CEO, boards, directors and so forth.
	But the personality traits that make you into that sort of a person are very few and far between, shared amongst very few men, let alone women.
	Most women don't want to go through that.
	Jordan Peterson talks about all this, doesn't he?
	They're not interested in all that.
	They have other priorities in life.
	And yet it's his desire, as you say, of the feminists to cut that off.
	And these are the same liberals who are supporting Hamas, which insists that women stay at home.
	Well look, so all the women that I know, as you said, are the women who either have kids or are going to have kids already, who are very learned and make positive contributions to the discourse on our side of the aisle, and are known for their work rather than just being essentially pretty talking heads.
	It's like Mary Harrington, Louise Perry, Emma Webb over at the New Culture Forum, they have fantastic morals, they are Excellent commentators and writers and they wouldn't object to this because they're psychologically sane and don't have a pathological hatred of men that obviously isn't serving their own interest.
	Talking about Simone de Beauvoir, there's Susan Sontag who talks about how there's no such thing as consensual sex even in marriage between men and women.
	It's just completely crazy.
	Simone de Beauvoir said all heterosexual sex is a kind of rape.
	That's an exact quote.
	Yeah, Susan Sontag was of the same sort of stripe.
	Yeah, I know most, like a lot of women I've known, when they're very young say things like, oh I don't think I want kids, I want a career.
	Then they get into their mid to late 20s or early 30s and are suddenly terribly upset that they don't have children and then very quickly have some children.
	Like that over and over and over again.
	So to try and tell women that there's something wrong with that is pure evil.
	Just pure evil.
	Or there's something wrong with the idea of a man wanting a wife or anything like that.
	It's just completely insane and evil.
	Well, misery loves company, and so they want to make it the general standard.
	I mean, just before I move on to the next element of this story, I mean, the important part there is that most women in the UK, 50.2%, I think it's ticked up slightly, have reached 30 and had no children.
	But, as demographer Stephen Shaw, that I've had on this show many times, has shown through his research, 30 is the sort of fulcrum age where both men and women, if they don't have children by that age, there's a queen toss, 50% odds, if they'll ever have children.
	So, of those half of women in the UK that are now 30 and childless, half of those will never have kids.
	So 25% of women in the UK will have never had kids, but have wanted them, because the vast majority of them actually want them.
	So, he's right.
	The lie that we're telling to women That you're going to be some CEO goal boss when these are very hyper-competitive, very scarce positions that most people don't want to do, men and women.
	The idea that that's going to be meaningful in your life when you're not going to get that, but that you're also not going to have kids which is going to be very meaningful, you're confiscating that from them.
	You're inflicting tragedy on people for 40 years.
	Utterly abhorrent.
	Also I've just noticed they actually failed to write that correctly.
	We apologies for our previous tweet.
	They got a diversity hire to correct the mistakes of the obvious resentful diversity hire before.
	I mean what's interesting as well, the press kicked into overdrive to try and inflate the condemnation from within the Catholic camp.
	So if you read this headline here, this is from NPR, so state funded outlet in the States.
	Benedictine College nuns denounce Harrison Butker's speech at their school.
	Now, why would the nuns denounce it, do you think?
	The nuns?
	Yes.
	That's what they're claiming.
	The nuns apparently denounced his speech.
	Now, why do you think the nuns could possibly denounce a speech?
	Do you think they would be against women having family and that?
	Because that's obviously what you meant to read in the headline, isn't it?
	I don't know.
	Why would they?
	They're not nuns I'm familiar with from my growing up in school.
	They were the Praetorian Guard of Papal Enforcement, you know?
	Exactly.
	A phalanx of nuns would even make a bishop tremble, you know?
	Their main complaint is that he said that for most of the women in the room, their primary sex would be as a homemaker.
	And they said he should have had the stipulation of, but the women who choose not to do that have an equally valid vocational life.
	Which is a fair stipulation, but the majority of women are not going to go into nunnery either.
	And obviously NPR are trying to manipulate this into saying, well, even the Catholics are throwing him under the bus.
	This is terrible, isn't it?
	It's like, no, not against people having kids, you pathological lunatics.
	And it is Benedictine though.
	Well, Jesuit's the worst, you know, that's fine.
	So after all that, There is another interesting element that people lost their mind over, and this is the other element that I wanted to bring in here, and that is the sort of Christian-slash-Catholic revival that's underway, particularly among the intellectual sphere at the moment.
	And so he spoke in here, this is a really interesting discussion, basically about why he started going to church and taking his kids to church and the like, and why he thinks that even after they leave the Catholic College, they should do the same, and it's just a quick clip.
	It is only in the past few years that I have grown encouraged to speak more boldly and directly Because as I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father, and as a man.
	To the gentlemen here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities.
	As men, we set the tone of the culture, and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in.
	This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation.
	Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S., and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well.
	Be unapologetic in your masculinity.
	Fighting against the cultural emasculation of men.
	Do hard things.
	Never settle for what is easy.
	You might have a talent that you don't necessarily enjoy, but if it glorifies God, maybe you should lean into that over something that you might think suits you better.
	I speak from experience as an introvert who now finds myself as an amateur public speaker and an entrepreneur, something I never thought I'd be when I received my industrial engineering degree.
	The road ahead is bright.
	Things are changing, society is shifting, and people, young and old, are embracing tradition.
	Not only has it been my vocation that has helped me and those closest to me, but not surprising to many of you, should be my outspoken embrace of the traditional Latin Mass.
	I've been very vocal in my love and devotion to the TLM and its necessity for our lives.
	But what I think gets misunderstood is that people who attend the TLM do so out of pride or preference.
	I can speak to my own experience, but for most people I have come across within these communities, this simply is not true.
	I do not attend the TLM because I think I am better than others, or for the smells and bells, or even for the love of Latin.
	I attend the TLM because I believe, just as the God of the Old Testament was pretty particular in how he wanted to be worshipped, the same holds true for us today.
	It is through the TLM that I encountered order and began to pursue it in my own life.
	So I think there's an excellent exaltation of what masculine, self-confident headship, taking on duty does, and why you should revere tradition.
	I think that's why a lot of young men in the US, particularly on Capitol Hill and the like, and in the UK, are gravitating towards, if they're adopting Christianity, either Orthodox or some of the more traditional Catholic communities.
	And when we constantly talk about a deficit of male role models, right?
	Not knowing what men should do, how they should be if the fathers aren't in the home, and they've gravitated towards figures like the ever-ending Spectre of Andrew Tate, who used to sell porn.
	Great role model.
	Like, this guy, who's... Did he?
	Yeah.
	He ran a camming business, that's how he got all his money.
	Selling men... Maybe I have heard that.
	Selling men the instrument of their own immiseration.
	Great role model.
	But this guy, you know, married, husband, father... What's TLM?
	Traditional Latin Mass?
	Is that what that means?
	Yes.
	Tridentine.
	Yeah, he's a Super Bowl champion.
	Even though he tears up at the podium, nobody looks down on him for it.
	I mean, great role model, and yet the internet loses its collective mind at it.
	Yeah, I think this is a great role model actually, and I didn't hear this part of the speech before, and I think it's wonderful.
	And he's quite right, and you're quite right.
	You know, the reason that the Tridentine Mass, the Latin Mass, is becoming more popular is because it provides people with a historical grounding.
	That post-Vatican II, you know, Pope John XXIII said, let's open the windows and let in some fresh air.
	Well, unfortunately, out the window also flew those things that make a religion robust.
	You know, that's why the Catholic Church is the only one that's thriving, the Orthodox and Islam, because they actually stand for something.
	And the post-Vatican II Catholic Church and the CofE have tried to be all things to all people, and once you try to do that then actually you don't have a religion at all.
	And the Tridenti Mass, the TLM, I think appeals to people because of that historical continuity, but also I think there's an act of rebellion by people who are joining it because
	They're rebelling against the woke orthodoxy and by joining something like that I think it makes them feel as if they are actually doing what they can to push back against the madness and also I think it's a great way to build a new community and meet like-minded people because you're more guaranteed to find people of a similar mindset and a tridentine mass than you are going to in a normal mass I would imagine.
	Are you Catholic?
	I'm Catholic-raised, yeah.
	In fact, Candace Owen was converted in my parish church by Father Julian.
	Oh, really?
	Well, that's quite funny, actually.
	So we can contrast those two things.
	So in response to this section of the speech, you've got anti-woke, self-described liberals, like IO, which is an account that posts data on FBI crime statistic hate facts, for example, that Elon Musk keeps replying to.
	But this fellow said, devotion to the Latin mass is associated with right-wing extremism, anti-Semitism is some of the worst cultural reactionaries in the world.
	Deservedly ratioed for that and I just wanted to remind you that some people in the anti-woke coalition were going to have a real problem going forward because they actually hate the traditionalist right more than they do the left.
	What's his angle then to say that?
	Basically he thinks that the left are a problem because the left are going to lead to the far right and that's going to be way worse.
	It's not that the left in and of themselves are a civilizational acid.
	Yeah.
	Whereas the opposite is, okay, people that are in the anti-woke camp, well, as you said, Candace Owens, gravitating towards tradition.
	She's just converted to being a Catholic.
	There's Father Julian.
	Yeah, quite.
	Tammy Peterson as well.
	Jordan Peterson keeps getting asked whether or not he'll Yeah, no one's quite sure what denomination Russell Brand has become because it's not quite clear there, although his wife's a Catholic.
	this is very strange, so I'm not sure what's going on here, but Bear Grylls helping Russell Brand get baptised in the Thames?
	Yeah, no one's quite sure what denomination Russell Brand has become, because it's not quite clear there, although his wife's a Catholic.
	I have to say, you know, I'm not quite convinced about all of these sudden discovery, these Damascene conversions that we're having.
	I mean, I don't want to, anyone who wants to come to the church, The more full they are, the more people are on-site fighting the good fight, the better.
	But I just sort of wonder whether much of this is actually a fad, you know?
	It's like sort of the right-wing version of people on the left becoming Buddhists.
	And you know, Russell Brand used to be a Buddhist too.
	And I don't doubt, you know, obviously for many people it's because they want, they see the church as the moral foundation of Western Civilization, which I applaud and understand, and they want to defend or support that.
	But I think that's more of a political and ideological decision rather than one based on faith.
	And I'm really curious whether Russell Brand and Candace Owens, do they believe in the resurrection and the ascension?
	Do they believe in transubstantiation, when the bread and the wine become the body and blood of Christ?
	Do they believe in the Immaculate Conception that Mary was a virgin?
	Do they believe in the Holy Trinity?
	Do they go to confession?
	Do they believe in redemption?
	That's what I'm really curious about and I'm not sure that I'm convinced yet by that.
	Even though I'm completely up against it with you two, I must say a word that someone like Luther or Calvin might have said about the Latin Mass.
	It was used for centuries to bamboozle unlettered people.
	There was a reason why Protestantism actively decided to do away with it.
	I mean, if you don't know Latin, it's like going to the opera and it's in Italian, or something, and you don't understand a word.
	You know, it's sort of performative.
	You're going to the opera because it's a thing to do.
	You don't actually understand it.
	You know, for centuries, many people would go to mass and not understand a word of Latin.
	And so, it's a bit odd to me, like, why not?
	There are benefits to translating into the native language.
	Like, I do actually go to a Novus Ordo service because my priest actually watches the show, because he's a very good chap.
	But one of the main problems with the Protestant Reformation, and I don't think it was necessarily Luther's intention, because Luther was a reformist, not an abolitionist, but was that it devolved the interpretation of Scripture away from a legitimate hierarchy of apostolic succession to Whoever the priest or youth pastor is at the time.
	And now you get all of these aberrations in the Church of England.
	It can very quickly lead to anarchy and chaos and German armies marching on Rome, yeah.
	But the opposite is that, you know, can you trust that ecclesiastical structure to be... because someone like Luther or Calvin would say, yeah, the Popes and the Cardinals themselves were corrupt.
	Yeah, and certainly still is.
	There is fallibility.
	You know, Evelyn Waugh said in the 60s, though, that by attending a Tridentine Mass you are celebrating in the same mass as Thomas Becket, as Sir Thomas More.
	You know, it unites all Catholics in that shared thing.
	Sure.
	And the last one I wanted to mention as well is, as you said, in a utilitarian fashion, but I think people are coming round to it just because it's the moral foundation.
	Someone that you both might have opinions on or are familiar with the work of is Tom Holland.
	Now, so Tom Holland actually had bowel cancer a couple of years ago.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And in this article in The Spectator, it basically details how he went back to St Bartholomew's, which There's a sight of one of the apparitions of Mary, and he prayed for the first time since he was a child, and he's now after writing Dominion as well, understanding Christianity as a unique moral revolution in all of mankind.
	Got off his atheist perch and is now questioning.
	I mean, we've got Ayaan Hirsi Ali recently, who was the mistress of the Four Horsemen of New Atheism, who has now converted to being Christian.
	Some people are saying, including Karl, oh, is this just a utilitarian conversion?
	But she's also spoken privately about having what she believes to be a sincere religious experience.
	So I just think something's definitely happening here.
	I don't know to what degree it will keep catching on.
	It's the counterculture.
	Where we were, you know, in the 60s, let's say, sort of the beatniks of the 50s, the hippies of the 60s and 70s.
	You know, the counterculture then was against tradition, or let's say, well now the mainstream, for a while, has been wokeism or extreme leftism or globalism or whatever you want to call it.
	And so now the counterculture to that is tradition again.
	Precisely.
	Embracing religion and all sorts of things like that.
	The avant-garde is the right and religion and things like that.
	Now.
	That's the way culture goes, right?
	But the more the merrier.
	Whoever wants to support it.
	Like Churchill said, you know, I'm like a flying buttress.
	I support the church on the outside, you know, and the more we want to come and support the foundations of Christian civilization, the better.
	As long as the converts aren't leading the congregation, I think that'll work great.
	So just a final word on it then.
	Arison Booker, he said absolutely nothing wrong.
	They hated him because he spoke the truth and if we get more men like him acting as ambassadors for Being a husband, being the head of his community and reviving tradition, um, brilliant.
	Culture would be a lot healthier.
	And with that, I suppose we go on to the comments.
	We don't have any video comments today, do we?
	Fantastic.
	Brilliant.
	So just written comments.
	We're starting off with plenty of compliments for our guest.
	Oh gosh.
	Garlic Goblin, which is a hell of a name.
	Great to see Rafe's debut appearance.
	Big fan of his work.
	Yeah, our audience have very inventive usernames, which we'll be able to enjoy.
	General Hyping.
	Always love to hear from Rafe Heidelmanku.
	Few are capable of dismantling complete morons on live TV as well as, and as eloquently as this guest.
	Thank you, Hyping.
	Yes.
	That'll get clipped.
	A rat living in the Kenyan Butchers.
	Yeah, that actually happened down the road.
	The Kenyan Butchers that was in Swindon got closed down for a rat infestation.
	Oh, really?
	There we go.
	It's always good to hear from Rafe.
	His constant defence of Winston Churchill on GB News is always refreshing.
	Well, you'll be happy to hear that Bo and Rafe will be talking about Churchill on Epoch shortly after this, so that'll be good as well.
	And Justin, it'll be great to see Rafe, of course.
	So, top one, OFUNK, very creative, for $5 on Rumble.
	Thank you very much for your Rumble rant.
	What unites all Muslims is well-deserved inferiority complex VAV the West.
	Read your... Do you know what that is?
	Qutub?
	No.
	I don't know what that means, but...
	Quite.
	I mean, they do have a superiority complex because they believe that they have the mandate of heaven, that Mohammed was a perfect man, which is insane considering he's a paedophilic warlord.
	And I think that will be criminalized, to say, under the next Labour government, which would be fantastic, but it's just speaking truth.
	We're off YouTube at this point, right?
	Yeah, of course we're off YouTube.
	It could be a tiny bit more spicy.
	Well, I think I've said that on YouTube.
	Again, if I get prosecuted for saying the truth when he married a six-year-old and raped a nine-year-old, I mean, you know, that'll be...
	There's all sorts of examples of what the inferiority complex of all sorts of cultures and religions in all throughout history all sorts of things where they hate you but they want to be you at the same time and I'm not just talking about the West and the rest of the world I'm talking about all throughout history in all sorts of ways Like, the Romans' relationship with the classical Greek world.
	There's endless examples of that.
	They hate you and resent you, but actually want to be you.
	So bad.
	Not invoking Godwin's Law, but this has actually been a critique of, like, the Nazis from the right, which is basically, if you are a person who believes in, like, evolutionary determinism and survival of the fittest and that, and then you turn around and say, well, the Jews have survived persecution in every single country, they happen to be very rich and prosperous and making their own businesses, And they're such a threat to us despite being a minority that we have to attack them.
	It's like, well yeah, aren't you basically saying that they're a power block that you'd like to emulate?
	Then how at the same time are you saying that they're essentially amounted to vermin?
	You know, that sort of thing.
	It's that contradictory envy that never quite maps up.
	Same with Islam and the British Empire, frankly.
	We're far more successful at conquering them than they are.
	Justin B. Reparations were already paid when we freed the slaves.
	We didn't ask them to pay us for themselves, unlike the French.
	So they were given the value that they would have brought their masters at the time.
	We didn't...
	Stop paying the last payment for that.
	Was it under the Cameron coalition?
	Yeah, it was in the last decade.
	Within the last decade, I think.
	And technically we would have paid that through borrowing money anyway, so still on the debt.
	Brilliant.
	Biggie Bigfoot, if we give them our countryside, our cities and reparations, why would they stop there?
	Their demands will never end until we are fully subjugated.
	Yeah, it's not about...
	Hippocracy or righting historical wrongs, it's always about power and hierarchy and the like.
	Lord Nerevar actually works for the National Trust, that's interesting.
	He says, you have to say the wokeness varies from site to site.
	Not to out himself, but the main property that he is at is the Birmingham back-to-backs and that's pretty much as woke as it gets, all the way down to a display on drag queens.
	Lord help us.
	Other properties, especially rural ones, they seem to be actively anti-woke and utterly disconnected from idiotic decisions made by the higher-ups at the head office.
	While the main Swindon offices are totally infested, it's a running joke at the properties that they actually don't know the trustors' properties and never visits them.
	We're a very decentralised organisation these days, or you'd be looking for a career change.
	They're here in Swindon, maybe.
	We should pay them a visit and doorstep them on this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If you still retain your membership, you could always walk down there and ask, so why are you practising race communism?
	Why are you obsessed with that?
	Shouldn't you be looking after monasteries or something?
	George Hatt was a member of English Heritage for a year while visiting different castles and manors, but once he saw they were pushing alphabet garbage, he ended his subscription.
	These organisations set up to preserve the culture should be gatekept from progressive vandals.
	Quite.
	Add that to the list for the civil service, the government, every international institution and the like.
	And rue the day, I follow an Instagram account called English Countrysides and it's just so gorgeous it scratches your brain just so.
	Yeah, we do have a very unique aesthetic that many other people around the world envy.
	Do you want to go on to your ones?
	Oh, OK.
	Oh... I can't say it.
	Yeah, I can't say it.
	Oh, fuck, with a P-H.
	It said, life was better here before the Muslims came.
	Well, we're off YouTube, so... I think that's fundamentally true as a Catholic.
	I think they have a morally non-respectable moral tradition.
	So, yeah.
	Bade Eagle says reasons why other Arab nations won't set up refugee camps or even allow Palestinians.
	One, Palestinians do nothing but cause problems.
	Taking their means, acknowledging the existence of Israel.
	That's very true, yeah.
	Because if you solve the quote-unquote Palestinian refugee problem, then you've done Israel's work of clearing the people out of the lands they'd like to settle and encompass into the larger country for them.
	But the clash will destabilize your own countries, as you know, Lebanon and Jordan and Egypt discovered.
	The Lebanese Civil War, 15 years, was Because there were so many PLO fighters in the country.
	The Queen of Jordan keeps making noises about Israel causing a genocide, yet doesn't want to take any of them in.
	I wonder why?
	Yeah, the story of Jordan with Palestinian refugees is very long and storied, and how they would put up with PLO for a while, and then PLO just was destroying their country, basically, in all sorts of ways, getting them in all sorts of trouble.
	Jordan's got a monarchy, you know, and in the end they had to say, look, enough is enough.
	You know, ideologically, or religiously, or whatever.
	We're completely on your side, but you guys are psychos and can't be reasoned with.
	Will not be reasoned with.
	So, sorry, no more.
	And that's Jordan.
	And Egypt, of course Egypt had all sorts of military dictatorships, or at least proto ones, or it was Mubarak for years and years and years, wasn't it?
	But they know the deal as well.
	They're like, no, if we let you in, you're going to be a fifth column.
	President Sisi's just been suppressing the Muslim Brotherhood, and you know, Hamas are an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	So the last thing he wants is to fill the country back with the very people he's just suppressed.
	Yeah.
	Okay, is that... I think we've got a couple of more minutes, so you can do as many as you like, really.
	Okay, Chase Bell says, the political establishment, the people responsible for this, are traitors.
	I guess you're talking about my segment still?
	Yes.
	And it's high time we begin calling them as such.
	Yeah, I said that for a while.
	I said that in the article that got me on the Mallard, that got me in trouble with Hopeful Pay and Reform dropping me.
	I said, I basically said that.
	I said that, no, what's been perpetrated against us is a monstrous crime almost without parallel.
	And, but we know the people that did it.
	This wasn't decades ago.
	This isn't World War II era and everyone's dead.
	No, nearly everyone's still alive.
	We know who they are.
	Mainly Blair era people and Gordon Brown and Cameron era people.
	A lot of them still have jobs and things.
	We know who they are.
	They can be held to account and prosecuted.
	I'll say all that explicitly.
	You mentioned treason.
	Yeah, now what is it if not treason then?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	If you've deliberately done this.
	No arguments from me, Bo.
	No, I'd make you Attorney General overnight.
	But, unfortunately, none of us have that power yet.
	Toby Young thought I'd gone too far.
	Well, so did Richard.
	I mean, we were at the New Culture Forum conference, which was great, by the way.
	You did a very good speech.
	And one of our audience members actually asked Richard, well, are you letting hope not hate vet your candidates?
	And he said, well, if you say something that's silly or racist, we'll kick you out.
	But you didn't say any of that.
	You said none of that.
	You said there might be up to a million people since 1997 who may need to be sent back.
	And we get Robert Jenrick's report, former immigration minister and Neil O'Brien, as of two weeks ago now, that say it turns out that as of 2017, There were 1.2 million legal people here.
	It's like, well yeah, unfortunately that's millions of people that have no right to stay here.
	That's not... That's not setting up camps.
	That's not... Yeah, I think that was very unfair, actually, on you.
	Well, I mean, it's not the end of the world.
	It's gonna be... It's all gonna be a bit of a ball like anywhere else.
	No, but your reputation shouldn't be disparaged like that.
	No, I sort of wear being criticised by Hope Not Hate as a badge of honour.
	I mean, you've got to go through these things to be counted as... You've got to be cancelled.
	Right, Rafe?
	My chances of a bit of career are long gone, so... You can't be counted as one of the... one of the... one of the right, or whatever, or the counter-culture, or whatever you want to call it, unless you've been cancelled at least once.
	Like a Scouts badge, you need to have your cancelled badge added to your jacket.
	Right, well, fantastic.
	We've run up against time there, Rafe.
	Absolute pleasure.
	Thank you so much, it was great fun.
	Yeah, so please do check Rafe out on his Twitter account and the YouTube channel, it's in the description, and also everything he contributes to the New Culture Forum.
	We will be back tomorrow at one o'clock UK time, and also I'll be back for Tomlinson Talks with Stefan Molyneux at three o'clock tomorrow behind the paywall.

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