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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #909

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	- Hello and welcome to Podcasts of the Lotus Easters, episode 909 on the 7th of May.
	I am joined by the indomitable History Bro, Bo, and the very lovely Liany.
	Thank you for having me.
	Liany, thank you for coming on.
	So, we've got your socials up here.
	That's how I first noticed you, because you're quite sensible on the Twitter, aren't you?
	You are sensible, I mean.
	Yeah, I don't know about that.
	I'm just there to rant, as my profile says.
	I feel like I wake up and I just have a few things to get off my chest, so to speak.
	And you're very sensible on all the right issues.
	And then one day I clicked into the profile and I realised, oh, it's the lovely lady from the FHM.
	So I thought, oh right, yes, definitely got to get you on the show.
	Not the sun or anything, FHM, I like that.
	I was an FHM reader.
	Did you clock any of those in the day, Bo?
	Really?
	No.
	Oh right, OK.
	When women were women.
	Yes, it was a bit different back in those days, wasn't it?
	We might get into that in the show at some point.
	And you've also got a YouTube page.
	What kind of thing do you do on that then?
	All sorts of stuff around the farm, actually.
	I live on a little smallholding, about 10 acres.
	And there's all sorts going on, and I've got to fix a lot of the stuff around there myself.
	There's a bit of plumbing, a bit of fence fixing, cleaning horses, mucking out tractors, all sorts.
	I don't drive the tractors, but I film the tractors a lot.
	There's all kinds of stuff, a bit of gardening.
	Superb.
	So that is definitely worth checking out if you want to know about smallholdings.
	Right, and I should also, actually no, I'll do that in the first segment.
	Let's smoothly flow professionally into the first segment.
	Right.
	So, what we wanted to talk about in this one was, you've noticed, Leonie, that they are playing both sides.
	You put up an interesting tweet, which was this.
	What's going on here then?
	Well, you've got Serco who are kind of not controlling the borders, but they're there at the airport.
	But I mean, they are kind of employed to do border security.
	Yes, exactly.
	So with our tax money.
	And then what they're also doing now is they're calling landlords and offering them five-year contracts to house these asylum seekers.
	They're crossing through the channel.
	So what they're doing is they're taking, obviously, our money, our taxpayers' money.
	The government are then handing it to Serco and saying, like, call the landlords.
	So they're going to offer you a five-year contract to rent your property to them.
	They're going to take care of all the maintenance and all the repairs, which is a huge expense for landlords.
	They're going to give you no commission that you have to pay your estate agent for when you rent your property out.
	So it's all in all, it's To a landlord would be quite a lucrative deal.
	And I mean, you know, the government are also really pressing landlords.
	We've got high mortgage rates, but then they also change the tax relief laws for, you know, taking your mortgage off your taxes, all of this kind of stuff.
	So landlords are under a lot of pressure at the moment.
	So if they see something like this come along, they might want to take it.
	And obviously, what's that going to do?
	It's going to reduce the inventory for British people and also legal Immigrants that have come here legally, that have jobs here.
	So, you know, rent's a fortune, mortgages are a fortune, people need to rent because they can't afford a mortgage, and then they can't rent because Serco are taking a load of the inventory.
	I mean, the fundamental point being is that they're earning from housing the immigrants who get past the border, and they're also paid to control the border.
	So this is what I mean.
	And this is the problem, isn't it?
	There's so much money now with illegal immigrants coming in.
	And then they look after some of the prisons as well, don't they?
	So when they get banged up...
	Let's drill into that.
	It's something a bit more than a conflict of interest then.
	You could describe it as a cabal perhaps?
	Don't be a conspiracy theorist!
	Do we know, are they a limited company?
	So they've got shareholders?
	They're publicly listed, yeah.
	I mean, Rupert Soames was involved at one point.
	Yeah.
	Also, um, Churchill's grandson, I think.
	Yeah, he was involved at some point.
	So it's worth looking into the shareholders, um, as well.
	So yeah, you know, it's definitely a conflict of interest.
	So before we dig into that, I'll just quickly mention that we've got a couple of jobs open.
	So we're looking for people who know about the technical stuff and the buttons and the cameras and all that kind of thing.
	So if you know about that sort of stuff, we're looking for a guy in London and a guy in Swindon, so do get in touch if you know about the buttons stuff.
	So, right.
	So Serco, yes.
	So this is the sort of pitch that they've got.
	Calling all landlords.
	We're looking for landlords, investors and agents with property available in the north-west, midlands, east of England.
	So, they're not doing this in the South, which I quite like.
	Interesting, isn't it?
	Yes.
	I don't know why, but at least they're doing it in the North.
	Oh, here we go, let's scroll down.
	Yeah, so Serco provides asylum accommodation support services in the Northwest of England, blah, blah, blah.
	Oh yeah, we are responsible for 30,000 asylum seekers in an ever-growing portfolio of more than 7,000 properties.
	So they've already bagged at least 7,000 properties have come off the rental market.
	No, exactly.
	And so we saw that a lot of the hotels were being taken over by these people before.
	Beautiful hotels, actually.
	People have their weddings cancelled and their bookings cancelled.
	We've done segments on that.
	In fact, there's two hotels just up the road from here, both of them fully booked out.
	We've got bouncers on the doors and these sort of chaps coming in.
	Yeah, so now let's move into the, you know, kind of private sector.
	And along with this you have, I've got estate agent friends who have clients now seeking big buildings in order to turn them into multiple occupancy homes, which is basically where you can have multiple families living in one small house, you know, split the rooms up into separate rooms.
	And, you know, it used to be for student accommodation or say like the NHS, but now it's like they're handing them over to Serco as well.
	And even when I was a student, there wasn't really an abundant... I mean, there's always that sort of crush at the beginning of the year when you had to go out and find a property.
	Yes, yeah.
	But it's going to be even less viable if you've got, you know, tens of thousands of asylum seekers.
	And 7,000 properties taken off the market for, you know, our own people.
	Yes, it's not uncommon.
	Yeah, so perspective land.
	And in fact, we got your bit that you mentioned.
	We use a quote, over the three years I've now worked with Serco, I've increased my housing stock with the assistance of Serco.
	I mean, so it's a great deal for the landlords because they've got a nice secure revenue stream.
	Right.
	So they can then get more properties.
	But yeah, so this is what you were saying, wasn't it?
	So it's a five year lease with no voids.
	Now, if you're a landlord, it's like void is one of your worst things.
	Yeah, you know, a tenant hands in their notice, it could be empty for like, you know, a month where you have to, you know, fix it up, change the carpet, repaint the walls, get it all, you know, up to scratch again.
	And so, you know, then they've got to look for a new tenant.
	You might have tenants that say, oh, while I'm in here, I don't really want people coming through looking.
	So you could have empty periods.
	And it really sort of screws up your return on investment calculation.
	Yeah, totally.
	Rent paid full, on time, every month, with no arrears.
	So again, really attractive for landlords.
	Exactly, especially after what happened during Covid when, you know, people were given kind of a bit of a period, a grace, a big grace period, a very, very big grace period with which not to necessarily pay rents or have their rents lowered even.
	And you might think, well, but if we get a, you know, whatever it is, a Sub-Saharan or a Banean or whatever it is that sort of gets shoved into this place, they might not fully respect it.
	There is that concern.
	There's that.
	But they throw in full repair and maintenance as well.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	So it is a great deal for the landlord.
	It's an amazing deal.
	It just comes at the low, low price of destroying your own civil society.
	Well, there is that, yes.
	Betraying your nation.
	So if you're not worried about that.
	Bills and council tax paid by Serco, periodic safety inspections and no fees.
	So it's like, you know, just from a financial perspective, you kind of have to be mad as a landlord not to do this.
	Right, right.
	I mean, I have a property that I rent out.
	I have a lovely, absolutely lovely tenant.
	He renews every year, but I still have to pay the estate agent that found it for me, like $150 a year to renew that contract.
	So here you go, no fees.
	And obviously, it's much bigger if your tenant's moved out and you have to find someone else.
	That's, what, I think maybe a month's worth of rent they might take?
	And talking of landlords, I know they typically have multiple properties.
	You could have five, you could have 50 or something.
	So it's very tempting for them, instead of having to do the work all the time, they can just say to Serco, OK, I'll get paid even more by you, total security, and then you deal with everything and I don't need to worry about this again.
	You can see why thousands of properties are just going, you know, straight onto this thing.
	Yeah, you can see that it's definitely happening.
	And then there's a lot of foreign investors doing it as well, because they're like, well, look at this.
	You know, they've got no skin in the game, have they?
	They don't care about the neighborhood of the house.
	I mean, the house that I rent out is a house that I used to live in.
	So I know the neighbors.
	I know all the people.
	I kind of care.
	And I care who's in there and about those people.
	If you're just an investor from, you know, and you're not even from the area, you don't care, do you?
	You don't care if it completely destroys the area around because you've got all of this.
	That was the sort of tough thing with the hotels, wasn't it?
	Yeah.
	Because they started putting them in the really sort of nice hotels in these little holiday sort of towns and stuff.
	And the local economy kind of relied on the tourists coming in.
	Yeah, coming in to pay for their dinners in the restaurants and the little shops and, you know, yeah.
	It does rely on a sense of morals though, doesn't it, from the owner?
	Whether you're an owner of one of these hotels or whether you're a landlord.
	You know, whether you've got a sense of morality, whether you actually care about the community in any real way.
	I think there's two types of landlords.
	I happen to be a landlord myself, but only one property, a small little flat.
	OK, so I think there's landlords that own... Have you done the deal?
	And it's actually harder for us, like I'm a small landlord as well, it's harder for us when we have all these rules put on us, especially from the government, and they make it, you know, they diminish our rights and they give the tenants a lot of rights.
	It's harder for us when you're a big corporation that buys up all these properties.
	Yeah, and it's your full-time job and you've got these big lawyers to get people out and evict them if they don't pay their rent or whatever.
	It's much easier for these huge corporations that are doing it or these big landlords with like 50, 60 properties because, you know, they have everybody at their fingertips to do all of the necessary things.
	So, you know, for a small landlord, this could be quite appealing and for an investor who doesn't care about the area, as I said, Definitely.
	And you make a good point, because the government is simultaneously raising the rules and regs on one side to make it less appealing and more hassle to do it yourself, and while giving you an easy out, which is just do the immigrant thing.
	And then we'd be fine.
	What's your experience been?
	I was just going to say, I think there's a few different, a couple of different types of animals.
	There's those that have like a property empire, and they've got 10 or 50 things, and they never ever meet the tenants.
	They've got agencies that do all that for them.
	They don't care if they put a builder in and put partition walls up and cram eight students into, or asylum seekers, into one property.
	There's that type of person.
	Usually, the cliche goes, that they're sort of immoral.
	Or just soulless.
	Don't care.
	Just whatever.
	It's just a business.
	Yeah, it's just a business.
	Just whatever money I can make at the end of the month.
	Then there's sort of normal human beings who happen to own a property they're not living in and they rent it out.
	I mean, I don't know about you, but mine is, you know, just sort of the rent kind of pays for the mortgage repayment.
	Yeah.
	Not even that really.
	And it's one thing.
	That's one thing.
	And so I sort of wouldn't dream of trying to cram extra students in there, or extra asylum seekers in there, or do something like this.
	Just wouldn't dream of it.
	You've got one person in there that you kind of know, they've been there for a while, and you know they're not mad, they're not trying to rip the copper wiring out of the walls or anything.
	Good to go, that's fine, just let it tick over.
	But there will be lots and lots of people out there that fight the government's hand off for something like this, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I say I'm a landlord, I also rent.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	So I've got a landlord of my own.
	Right.
	And he's, as far as I can tell... He's committed to the model then.
	Right.
	As far as I can tell, the guy owns loads and just is always trying to put everything up and always trying to not pay for anything and it's just, it's just two types of landlords, right?
	Yeah.
	Normal human beings and then sort of crazy money grabbers.
	Yeah, my estate agents have said to me, they're like, oh, Lelani, you know, you could put the rent up this year.
	I'm like, you know, I really like this tenant and I don't know that you can necessarily afford that.
	And I've done that before.
	I've done that before.
	And you know, if they've been a really good tenant, kept But like you said, I'm one of those other landlords that just want a nice person in there that's going to look after the property and I'm not there to make, you know, invest and make tons and tons from, you know, the taxpayer.
	Because ultimately, this is the taxpayer's money, isn't it?
	This isn't, this isn't.
	Or borrowed.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Our grandkids, our grandkids money really, because ours is all gone.
	Yeah I mean there's loads of people who do this as well because it's quite common for people to you know end up getting married or something and then they rent out one of the properties or something or you know or they're moving around like more your situation or something.
	Have you not got a bunch of properties?
	No I've never.
	I would have thought you would have.
	It's all in gold is it?
	Yeah gold and bitcoin.
	Tech stocks and all that sort of thing.
	I think the reason was is because unless you kind of got in on it years ago, the yields, which is what you said, which is it basically covers the mortgage.
	Yeah.
	So it's like being suppressed to the point now where the only way you make money is on capital appreciation of the property itself.
	You can't earn money on the thing and it's kind of easier to make money.
	And what's scary now is banks are actually allowed to become landlords.
	So, you know, it's going, they've, you know, they let that come in.
	So people moan about small landlords and say, oh, all landlords are really greedy.
	But actually, wait until it's the bank that's the landlord and they've taken away the properties from us, the nice landlords, because we can't afford it anymore because our mortgage rates are up here and we've got all these repairs and maintenance because Serco is not paying us.
	Because then it will be utterly faceless.
	It will just be somebody on a spreadsheet somewhere is in charge of the properties and they just do a deal with a letting agency or something on a nationwide basis.
	It will be utterly faceless the whole way across.
	But this is just really cynical, isn't it?
	I mean, come on, it's really cynical to use sort of a government agency, or would you call it, what is Circle, would you call it, er...
	Contract service provider.
	Right.
	Right.
	So use that to sort of bribe landlords into flooding our country with asylum seekers.
	What is that?
	And it has a real impact because I mean, I've just I just picked on this.
	I mean, there's loads of ways I could come at this.
	But this is a guy just pointing out that, you know, there's lots of homeless people who are there because of domestic abuse.
	So they're in a situation where they have had to get out of the home.
	And he sort of highlighted about 11,000 people in this category that he's looking at suffered domestic abuse at home, they had to get out and they've ended up homeless because they just couldn't find rented accommodation.
	Now of course the numbers are actually much much larger than that.
	Um, you know, it's increasingly a problem that people can't find even when people have been shut out of the housing market for a while, but now they can't even rent somewhere.
	Um, and there's like, you know, 11,000 real victims here.
	And 7,000 homes taken by Serco.
	Yeah, and I suspect it's higher than that now.
	Yeah.
	And if the government's doing it with Serco, they're probably doing it with somebody else.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah, so they're direct.
	And Alex, who we had on the show, was it last week or week before?
	You know, week before.
	He made this sort of excellent point that, well, actually, the British population is falling.
	Yeah.
	So if there's a housing shortage it's because of this immigration problem because otherwise it just wouldn't be the case.
	Rents would be going down.
	It's a bit worrying.
	This is an entirely manufactured issue from sort of start to finish.
	Something happened in the late 90s.
	And now demand outstrips supply.
	I wanted to pick up more on the timing thing actually because a friend of mine had made this point.
	Yes, you're right, there is that sort of big Jump thing that happened there in the late 90s, the sort of Blair era.
	But I mean, even then, it wasn't super crazy.
	No.
	It was sort of, you know, a couple of hundred thousand people a year were coming in.
	But this is this is really interesting.
	Look what happened here.
	So 20, was it 2016, 2017, we had the Brexit vote.
	And as soon as that happened, they thought, OK, got to be on best behavior here.
	We're not going to roll because we're going to try and cancel the Brexit.
	So what we're going to do is we're going to take immigration, and look how low immigration went when they were trying to convince us that you don't want to do any of this Brexit stuff.
	Yeah.
	It went down to below 100,000 which was, well you haven't seen that since before Tony Blair, and the moment where they realised they'd lost Brexit, they decided to punish us.
	So this mass immigration is basically a punishment for Brexit.
	You just look at the... I mean, it's parabolic.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Very, very conscious, deliberate decision as far as I'm concerned.
	It's surprising to ever see the line go down.
	And it's interesting why it happened as well.
	It's because they were trying to convince us that, you know, immigration isn't a problem.
	It does also show that it's possible for it to go down.
	If there's the political will to make it go down, it can happen.
	Because there's this argument isn't there, you just can't do it, it's just how the world is now.
	You just will be flooded by hundreds of thousands of people every year and that's just the inevitability.
	And let's see what would happen if they didn't get benefits because when I had to move to America the legal way, I actually was married to an American.
	They had to look at all his bank statements and make sure that he could actually support me should I not work.
	Um, he would have to be able to support me, and there was no way that I could claim any kind of benefit, or he'd be liable for it.
	So, what would happen if there were no benefits for these people, like, you know, coming in?
	There shouldn't be!
	They shouldn't, or at least not for you.
	It's kind of weird that they did that, and yet, just like, had an open border with Mexico.
	That's a bit odd, isn't it?
	It is weird but it is weird and I can't believe that they don't have a wall up and there are areas where it's closed but obviously you can sneak through.
	But the scary thing about it now is actually if you speak to a lot of Mexicans, anyone that's come there illegally doesn't want, sorry, anyone that's come there legally doesn't want illegals because they don't want the illegals taking their jobs.
	There's loads of Mexicans working all over the place and you speak to them in Los Angeles like I did when I lived there, like no, we don't want the illegal ones coming over because they'll take our jobs, you know, so they also don't want illegal immigration.
	And the ones coming over the border, you know, they're not even Mexican anymore.
	They're like, you know, Chinese, Middle Eastern, African.
	And it's like, how did you even get to Mexico in the first place to be able to cross over?
	Yeah, I mean, I knew a guy who was, where was he?
	He was going from, I think he was going from Africa to El Salvador and he was flying first class.
	And he looked around in his first class cabin and it was a bunch of guys in like really rough t-shirts.
	They're all carrying a plastic bag with their possessions.
	And he thought this is a bit odd, and so he started speaking to a few of them, and most of them didn't speak English, but they were all basically just a bunch of Africans being scooped up, put on first-class flights, and sent out to El Salvador, where they could then begin their journey into America.
	Somebody is funding this stuff somewhere.
	Definitely being funded.
	Somebody.
	Don't ask who.
	Don't notice that happening.
	But yeah, I might do a bit soon about Secretary Mayorkas.
	Do you know him?
	No.
	Alessandro Mayorkas, he's head of Homeland Security in America.
	Oh, okay, yep.
	And he's supposed to be in charge of, amongst many other things, the borders.
	And he's just completely failed, a complete dereliction of duty to do his job, his oath of office.
	And so all the Republicans in the Senate and things saying, well wait, that's...
	That's a dereliction of duty.
	It should be, or we're going to impeach you and remove you from office.
	And Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats are just like, yeah, no, because they control the Senate.
	So just like, yeah, no, we're not going to have any of that.
	So this is the other side of it.
	So as well as providing the, you know, the housing, if you get past the border, Soko are also providing the sort of security of the border.
	Um, you know, we've got a lovely little diet.
	In fact, let's play this video because it sort of makes the point that, you know, we are doing a sterling job and making, and look, there's a little image of a scanner at a border and everything.
	Let's watch what they have to say.
	Can you do the thing, John?
	Oh. - Serco is a leading provider of immigration services.
	From border control to detention centres, we work closely with governments to protect borders and sensitively manage immigration.
	Not that well, obviously.
	Our people show compassion and respect to those entrusted to our care throughout their time with us.
	Oh, that's good.
	We are there for those in the community while their asylum claim is processed.
	Whether it be accommodation or transport, our dedicated staff have cared for some of the most vulnerable people in our communities since 2012.
	We also work to help integrate those people into communities with a range of services, programs and partners.
	Where possible, we provide continuity of care to develop trust and reassure those we're looking after.
	We provide recipients with temporary needs-based support while they're awaiting a government decision.
	We also provide secure detention services for government immigration departments.
	Through both design and close working with specialist partners, we make the centres as comfortable and engaging as possible for those in our care.
	Okay, but just that line at the end, you know, we make our detention centres as comfortable, as engaging as possible.
	If you broke illegally into, I don't know, Saudi Arabia or something, would it be their priority to make your prison as comfortable and as engaging as possible?
	Absolutely not.
	It would be hell, wouldn't it?
	It would be absolute hell.
	I think they'd just gun you down on the beach.
	I'm not even joking.
	There were some boats that came across the Red Sea, from the Horn of Africa to the Kijaz, to the western coast of Arabia.
	I think they'd just open fire on them.
	I think that's what it was.
	They didn't put out a little video with soft music saying, you know, we make our machine guns as engaging as possible.
	Yeah, it's so nice, isn't it?
	We're the infrastructure that facilitates you being replaced in your own ancestral homeland.
	Yes.
	With our money.
	With our money.
	So just rounding off on this, I thought what I'd do is I'd ask the AI about this one.
	So I asked the AI, and a large outsourcing business is paid to protect a country's border.
	It is also paid to house the people that get past that border illegally and house them.
	It makes substantially more money per illegal immigrant from housing them, from deterring them.
	Is this system optimised?
	And it's quite interesting because the AI reckoned that that was a misalignment of incentive and it would promote potentially unethical situations with a profit motive.
	So, if the AI can figure it out, it would be nice if the chaps in Westminster could... I think they know.
	I think it's all intentional.
	It's intentional destruction of our society and money in their pockets.
	And people are getting paid off to do this.
	Definitely.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Yeah, just simply don't buy the angle that it's incompetence.
	No.
	That they're accidentally doing this day after day.
	Accidentally failing to let the Royal Navy police the channel or whatever it is.
	Oops, forgot again to do anything about it today.
	It's just, come on.
	No.
	Right, let's pick up a new one.
	Alright, well, I think we need to talk about the Islamisation of our politics.
	So we had recently, if anyone didn't notice, we had local elections, and some of the councillors that got in are just out-and-out Islamists.
	That's just another way to describe them, sort of pro-Palestinian ones.
	John, do you want to play that first link?
	We've got there.
	So here we can see that it's just completely out in the open, unapologetic.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	You know, there's four million of us.
	Let's make sure we all vote in unison.
	We've all got a shared purpose, haven't we?
	We've all got our very explicit ethno and religious in-group.
	So let's all vote as one block.
	It's completely explicit.
	That sort of message just doesn't work with the average Brit, because the average Brit is very individual.
	It's like, oh, tell me your tax policy, or make me agree with you on this, that, or the other thing.
	Whereas this, like you say, it's very much just Well, just vote Muslim.
	Well it's impossible to unite the right, apparently, if you ask Twitter.
	That's an impossibility.
	Don't even try.
	Don't know why not.
	But something's got to give.
	Something's got to happen.
	Because Ed Dutton, Professor Ed Dutton, talks very persuasively about They're in groups of all sorts of different cultures and religions.
	They're in group preferences.
	There's just no question that if there's a candidate that's a South Asian Muslim man, your household, everyone in the household votes for him.
	Like Sadiq Khan, for example.
	Yeah.
	There's no question.
	Of course you're going to do that.
	But it's so crazy to me because I'm not going to vote for somebody just because she's a woman or because she's a Christian or what have you.
	So I want to know that my local councillor is going to look after my area, spend, you know, the money that I pay in council tax well.
	And I want to know what's going on in my area.
	I mean... But you're doing the classic thing.
	You're voting on policies on identity.
	Right.
	And that's what, you know, you can see here it's just saying Vote for whoever's Muslim and we all need to do the same thing and tell everyone in your family and now the wife or the wives may be important and the mum may be important but it's funny because when you actually saw them winning, it was all men in the crowds like where were the families to support them?
	That's something that I noticed that's also very worrying.
	I suppose you can't really do the whole classic, have your wife up and give her a kiss on stage if she's doing the whole kind of... No!
	Well, no, women aren't supposed to really be involved in the public square.
	It depends how extreme their view is.
	Is that your opinion, or is that...?
	No, you know, shouldn't really be seen in public.
	Certainly, it's very modest not to have your hair covered, isn't it?
	I am.
	It's very, very modest.
	You certainly shouldn't really be involved in the game of politics.
	It's not a woman's place.
	Give me your ballot paper so I can sign it and then mail it in for you.
	Well that's what happens.
	The male head of the household will effectively vote for all the people that are registered to be able to vote in the household.
	And even beyond that you might have like your local imam will vote on block.
	For his community.
	I think it might have been Pakistan who had a female president once.
	Benazir Bhutto, yeah.
	Right, but that was a very... Well, you probably know the story better than me, but that was a very specific circumstance, wasn't it?
	Yeah, she was the daughter of a very famous Pakistani statesman, basically.
	They murdered her.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, she got murdered.
	It's very atypical to see.
	Do you not remember Benazir Bhutto?
	He was like the darling of the BBC for a while.
	We're going to have a woman in charge of Pakistan, then she was murdered politically, assassinated, and then you just never hear the name ever again.
	Don't remember this?
	It was years ago now, it was in the early 2000s or whatever.
	Yeah, no, classic.
	So this is the result of what we were talking about in the last segment about mass immigration and sort of endless asylum seekers.
	Why is it a problem?
	People say, why do you care?
	What's the problem?
	Multiculturalism is brilliant, isn't it?
	Well, no.
	No, it isn't, because multiculturalism as a good thing is, of course, a liar.
	Diversity isn't a strength.
	Homogeneity is a strength, obviously.
	And you'll end up with this, where you just get enclaves of foreign people who vote entirely for their own interests.
	And you can't really blame them, necessarily, for that.
	But, you know, it's just not a good idea for us.
	But can you have a play that link of Jimmy Carr, John?
	See that one?
	Some people still insist there's no kind of problem.
	Here's Jimmy on trigonometry the other day.
	Do you want to play that?
	I don't read as this at all, so you sort of have to say it, but I'm sort of first-generation immigrant, Irish parents, moved over in the early 70s, sort of economic migrants, and we did very well.
	And I think there's something about migrants that we don't talk about enough.
	They're incredible high-agency people.
	We're all from elsewhere a generation ago, and you go, what's great about London?
	Why is it the greatest city in the world?
	Migration.
	It's this amazing sort of melting pot of energy and people with kind of hopes and dreams and aspirations.
	It's fantastic.
	We should be encouraging.
	I don't read this at all, so you sort of have to say it.
	So that's impossibly naive.
	Yeah, it's impossibly naive, that.
	Isn't it?
	I'm not saying that everyone that comes from a foreign country isn't full of good aspirations and hopes and dreams.
	But it's just completely ignoring anything that's negative about it.
	And what you need to do, you need to have people that want to assimilate into the country.
	Like my mum's from the Philippines and she...
	She wanted to be here because she loves Britain and she wants to be like a British person.
	She wants to be part of the culture.
	I mean, it's actually funny if you remember that old TV show, Hyacinth Bouquet, like super trying to be British.
	That's like my mum.
	She loves England and Britain so much.
	She wants to be part of it and she wants to embrace it in every way that she possibly can.
	But you have people here like, you know, the councillors and you can see it.
	Allah Akbar as they win.
	That is not embracing the British culture.
	When you have the Palestine flag flying behind you, whatever your politics are on, whether it's Israel or Gaza or whatever your politics are on, whoever you see, this is England.
	So why, you know, if that was the St.
	George's flag, I think someone would be carted off by the police.
	Oh definitely.
	So you can't have that.
	It's a local election.
	That has nothing to do with the local constituents.
	And, you know, that's what is really scary about it.
	But the assumptions that Jimmy's making here is that the people who are coming are all individualistic and buy into Western values.
	But the entire point is The people who are coming now are not individualistic.
	They don't respect women's rights or whatever it is, or all of the Western tenants.
	They're just not into it.
	So that's the point of the line.
	You make the great point about integration.
	Many people that come over have got no intention of integrating.
	But beyond that, they mean to destroy our existing civil society.
	So, John, can you play the link?
	Have you got the one there of the guy winning?
	Actually, not this one.
	The guy winning at the next... Or you can play this one.
	You don't really need to hear him.
	You've got the other one of the guy, the Green Party guy.
	That's the link.
	That's the link.
	This guy.
	- You don't really need to hear him.
	You've got the other one of the guy, the Green Party guy.
	That's the link.
	That's the link.
	This guy.
	Like this.
	This is a local election.
	- That'll be great! - Three years ago, three years ago, we started this campaign.
	I started alone, and I lost that His angels, this one, they ditch me.
	In Leeds.
	In Leeds.
	The community of Hare Hills and Gibson who are fed up of being let down by the Labour council.
	Who are being fed up of being taken for granted.
	Who are being fed up of being taken for granted.
	Who are being fed up of being neglected by this rotten council.
	What's wrong with you?
	We will not be silent!
	We will raise the voice of Gaza!
	We will raise the voice of Palestine!
	Allahu Akbar!
	Again, a Green Party councillor in Leeds, that was.
	So interestingly for a Green Party candidate, I'm not hearing a lot about recycling bins.
	Right, yeah.
	Well I was so confused.
	I was out horse riding the other day and I thought, I was asking my friend who's been, she's a bit of an environmentalist and she's voted Green Party before and I said to her, I'm confused, like is the Green Party just something separate from like Labour and Council?
	I know I've been in America for like 17 years.
	What's happened?
	I thought the Green Party was about the environment and like you said recycling bins or something.
	She's like, I don't know who he is.
	I said, But there's a guy shouting like Allah Akbar with the Palestinian flag behind him, shouting that this is for the people of Gaza.
	Like, where am I getting it wrong?
	It's baffling to me.
	The thing is, right, he knows the game he's playing.
	He knows that that green rosette is just a finist of thin veneers.
	However, it's enough to fool Western lefties.
	Yep.
	Because they'll be like, oh yes, it's the recycling bin stuff, whereas everybody who's voting for him, and he knows perfectly well what he's doing, it's just irrelevant.
	You see the woman in the background at the beginning of the clip, what's going through her mind?
	What does she think is happening?
	Yeah, of course they use the Labour Party or the Green Party or the Lib Dems sometimes.
	It's just simply like a host.
	Our parasite uses a host organism.
	Yeah, that woman at the back there.
	Obviously they've used the Labour Party until they've exhausted it in this instance.
	Yeah, she probably thinks she's saving the polar bears or something.
	Yeah, so what this is, and what the clip before of Tiger Patel, it's very much at odds with what Jimmy Carr was saying, isn't it?
	It doesn't marry up with what Jimmy Carr was saying.
	He's using this idea of like, one of your parents for example, or my father came over from the United States.
	You know, if you integrate, it shouldn't be a problem.
	But it's not only is it not integration, it's to bring over their 1,300-year-old... It's to replace our culture.
	...desert feud onto the streets of Britain everywhere.
	Yes.
	And it's not good.
	I mean, a lot of people say when people tweet about all this sort of thing, some people say, yeah, obviously, what did you think was going to happen?
	And I agree with them.
	Yeah, obviously, a lot of people saw this coming a long, long time ago.
	I mean, even the late, great Christopher Hitchens, who's been He's been dead for quite a few years now.
	You know, the idea, the slur of Islamophobia, if you have any criticism of Islam, it's Islamophobia.
	And he said, you know, it's a word created by fascists, used by cowards to intimidate morons.
	I think I've almost got the quote right.
	Yeah, there's no such thing as Islamophobia.
	No, we're not an Islamic country.
	But the mass immigration is now at the point where it's like manifesting right before your eyes in local election results.
	There's the old adage, isn't there, that if you bring the third world to your country you become the third world.
	If you take lots of Near Eastern Islamists, millions, hundreds of thousands of them, bring them to England, give them an English passport, They don't become, they don't suddenly have the values of an Englishman.
	But you're telling me... No, no, they bring their values and their politics here and it's extremely divisive and ultimately bloody.
	You're telling me the magic soil theory doesn't work?
	Because let's be in no doubt here, you'll end up with like a Bosnia type situation.
	What happened in the Balkans, in Yugoslavia in the 90s.
	Or there's even worse examples throughout history, if you look at the partition of India for example, when they made East and West Pakistan.
	There's lots and lots of examples, all the problems that happen in Burma or Myanmar.
	Wherever you get Islamisation taking over vast swathes of your politics, It doesn't bode well, because eventually they'll sort of make their own party and vote in blocks of millions, and then they will want to bring in sharia law, and then they'll want a caliphate.
	And again, they're not pretending they're not.
	John, there was another link there earlier, the one you put in for us, where it's just on a podcast, these guys, just a podcast, where they're just openly saying we all want to make a caliphate.
	Yeah?
	Re-establish the Khilafat again.
	So there are three methods, correct me if I'm wrong.
	Our brothers from Hizb ut-Tahrir who believe you do some grassroots Dawah, you awaken the community, you awaken the Ummah, but really you seek power from a select group of elite who will give you Nusra and then you do maybe something like, but not restricted to a military coup, takeover.
	Done.
	Then you have our brothers who, I don't like this term, they are what you would call from the Jihadi spectrum.
	They say that no, we cannot seek Nusrat because they are Taghut and the army are Taghut.
	We have to take it by force.
	We have to establish Islam by force.
	Then there are those who, even though this movement has developed through the time, they say, well, hold on here, we need to deal with the means that we have, with the mechanisms that we have.
	Because of sensitivity, let us not mention certain questions.
	No, of course not.
	Okay, so we will do da'wah.
	And we will seek Nusra from maybe the military elite.
	As one example.
	You are working with the system and also you have put your people in the military.
	Or you give Dawah to the people already in the military?
	To overthrow the system?
	Then, okay, when they become those people, when they accept your da'wah, and they become part of you, have to work within the system.
	To overthrow the system.
	To overthrow the system.
	To change the system.
	To change the system.
	Yeah.
	So funny, smiling, something to smile about that.
	So talk about completely subverting and perverting our nation.
	It's just unabashed, it's unashamed, it's out in the open.
	Yes, that's what we mean to do.
	Ultimately to create a caliphate where there will be sharia law and all the rest of it.
	First of all, yeah, they're just blatantly saying, oh yeah, we're fully up for military coups and whatever else goes along with it.
	The other thing that I found quite funny is, did you hear the ceiling bird going off chirping a couple of times?
	They can't change the battery either.
	Yeah, and so, I mean, at the moment they've obviously decided to sort of try and play the game legitimately, but that's only one phase.
	Again, if you look at history, that's just the opening gambit, the opening phase of it.
	That won't last forever, because that can only be taken so far.
	And then it will come to force at some point.
	As a woman, when I see this, it's a little worrying to me because you look at countries that have been taken over by people like this, you know, Afghanistan.
	I actually posted something recently about the old clothing that they used to wear versus what they're forced to be dressed in now.
	Yeah, Iran, Afghanistan, loads of Muslim countries, their traditional dress of these women was, were beautiful, you know, colours and, you know, they were allowed to show their faces and their hair and now, you know, it's being taken over and it's become like...
	By people like this who just, you know, really want to diminish women as well throughout the country.
	You can see it with their own wives and their family and their daughters and, you know, I know they say that Western culture is like completely and utterly disgusting and immoral and the women are awful, but where's like the balance?
	These guys, you know, these guys.
	It's worrying the left-wing parties that let them in just don't clock it at all.
	And, you know, they'll say things like, well, the woman's choosing.
	Well, see what happens if their wife chooses not to.
	We've seen what's happened in Iran.
	You've got the morality police out beating the women and killing the women and imprisoning the women who don't want to wear a hijab.
	So, you know, good luck to all their wives and daughters if they try not to.
	There's very little choice.
	And if there is choice, it's a lot of brainwashing.
	Of course it's not their choice, no.
	It's a theocracy from the top down.
	And this particular podcast is not like the only example that we've managed to somehow fish out from the darkest corner of the internet.
	No, no, they talk about it openly all the time.
	It's just, it's just completely... There it is, like the guy shouting at the, at the ballot box, sort of at the count, screaming Alar-u-Akbar.
	If you go along with what Jimmy Carr had said, that globalism, open borders, immigration, in its totality, is nothing more than the hopes and dreams and aspirations of perfectly peaceful people.
	I don't know where you get the chutzpah to shill for globalism like that, when it's obviously terribly dangerous to Western values and Western culture.
	And there's also cultures that we really, really do not want to have in the country, like marrying off your children at nine years old.
	To their cousins.
	Yeah.
	And then you have like, you know, the...
	I read an article that says like half of Pakistanis are married to their cousins and they account for 30% of children with genetic deformities.
	So obviously there's a strain on the health.
	Something about inheritance laws or something like that but you're strongly incentivized to keep it in the family or something.
	Which, you know, doesn't seem like a good idea.
	You don't want some of those genes, you know, the recessive genes in the families, because that's causing all the genetic disorders and that's going to then cause issues for our NHS as well.
	Because you're marrying your cousin, so.
	Yeah, it's mad.
	I mean, if you'd appeared in FHM and your uncle Would murder you for that.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Right.
	Your dad and your uncles would get together and murder you.
	An honour killing.
	Wouldn't it be an honour?
	Is that what it is?
	Yeah.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	OK, so there's one link there where I said death threats from reform.
	Obviously, I've got my history with reform.
	John, can you put that link up?
	I think it's actually a Richard Tice link.
	Yeah, this is just one example where, yeah, just, again, just sort of openly threatening people, political candidates, just openly threatening them.
	You don't need to pay.
	What about the George Galloway thing?
	Put the George Galloway link up.
	Where Galloway and his party, again, just openly using the Israeli-Gaza conflict as There's a route to power, very cynically in my opinion.
	I don't like George Galloway, I don't trust him as far as I can throw him.
	I think he's a very sinister individual.
	You don't need to be wearing that hat indoors, George, for a start.
	Do you remember when he was in Big Brother?
	When he dressed up as a cat?
	Or purr around?
	He was wearing some sort of onesie catsuit thing, pretending to be a cat.
	Among the more cringeworthy things I've ever seen.
	But yeah, anyway, he was just talking about how the Palestinian conflict is essentially a thing to be exploited, a route to power.
	Not really in the remit of Leeds District Council.
	because there are because and it all of this only really works because we have imported Massive amounts of people that are just going to vote for that purely out of their own sort of in-group preference.
	Just because their community say you have to.
	Or it's just a no-brainer to them.
	It's just so odd to me that they're voting on a local level for something overseas.
	I mean, just that alone is just so bizarre to me.
	It's a local council election.
	You should be voting for somebody who's going to help your local community.
	And didn't Lawrence Fox, I don't know if you've got it in there, but didn't Lawrence Fox make the point... Yeah, there's the next, yeah, John, that Lawrence Fox tweet as well.
	Yeah, he made the point that, you know, it's not just a one-off event, this is, like, basically every city now.
	Well, he got community noted on this, because a couple of things he said are actually factually wrong.
	I had to quick check.
	A couple of those mayors aren't Muslim.
	But nonetheless, the overall point he was making is perfectly valid.
	For example, how many mosques there are in Britain.
	He said there's 3,000 and the community note said there's only 1,500.
	Well, there's more like 1,600 in 2017.
	So there'll be a lot more now.
	So I imagine Lawrence's number isn't all that far off the mark.
	3,000 mosques in Britain?
	Why?
	I mean, we know why, but... Yeah.
	But the thing is, coming back to your point about Ed Dutton on the show a few weeks back, I mean, he's been saying that all politics is now going to have to be secretarian.
	It's going to have to be... For example, you cannot run a white Christian woman in London, like the Conservatives did, or whatever, I can't remember what her name was now.
	Susan Hall?
	Oh yeah, Susan Hall.
	She obviously can't win because she's a woman and the voting bloc there do not vote for women.
	She's a Christian.
	They do not vote for Christians.
	She's white and they don't vote for whites.
	So you're going to have to run.
	If you want to win any city, you're going to have to run a Muslim man.
	Because otherwise it doesn't get you the vote, whereas the Tories have gone the other way entirely.
	They said, OK, we're going to put a white Christian woman to try and win a city, and then we're going to put an Indian guy to try and win the country.
	It's like, no, no, you've got this backwards.
	It's crazy, isn't it?
	Well, you used the word sectarian there, and of course that's what it is.
	Globalism, open borders, will lead to sectarianism.
	That is the result of it.
	It's not just the food, it's not just you can get all sorts of different curries in Brick Lane, and Jimmy Carr's vision of a glorious London.
	No, it's going to be street-level warfare.
	Yeah, sectarianism, wow, exactly.
	Can you scroll down a tiny bit on that as well, John?
	I mean, I think there should be the same number of mosques in England as there are cathedrals and abbeys and churches in Mecca and Medina.
	There shouldn't be any sheer courts in this country.
	There should be none.
	There should be no Halal courts.
	Do they get any recognition?
	Does the British legal system give those things a nod?
	Yeah, basically.
	I think one of the last links I had there was actually about a Sikh court.
	Is it?
	Is that?
	Yeah, scroll down a bit.
	This is about some... They've got their own thing so they can settle their own disputes in their own communities.
	I mean, a complete perversion of our legal system.
	Right.
	So anyway, I'm probably preaching to the choir largely here, with our audience, that there's a problem with the Islamisation, or just general subversion and perversion of our political system, to the point where it will just become purely sectarian.
	I mean, your point is that it's not... But hopefully other people... It's not subverting, it has been subverted.
	It is happening.
	It's a fait accompli.
	Yeah.
	It's done.
	There are, of course, ways back.
	It is possible.
	But anyway, I suppose I've used up all my time, so if you want to go to the next segment.
	Alright, okay.
	So, I thought it might be fun to do something uplifting.
	Cheer people up a bit.
	Yes, let's do it!
	After that blackpill.
	Yes, we've got a couple of blackpilling segments, but no, things are going to get better and I'm going to prove it in this next segment.
	Before I do that, I just want to point out that we have a couple of jobs open at the moment.
	We are looking for technical people who know about the cameras and the buttons and the screens and the images and the things.
	So if you know about those things, go to our careers page and you'll find a bunch of jobs.
	We've got jobs in London and we've got jobs in Swindon and, you know, all that kind of stuff.
	Anyway, so anyway, I've got a game.
	And the game is, we're going to talk through, quickly, 12 things that are a bit bad, but I think could possibly get better, and then we're all going to score them on whether things are going to get better or worse, and then we'll come up with a score at the end.
	I've got a little tracker spreadsheet thing, and it'll tell us where we are.
	So, the first thing, and when I was prepping this, I said to Bo, what's the worst thing in the world?
	And you immediately said, rewriting of history.
	Right.
	So, um, so what were you thinking there?
	What was your thought?
	Well, gosh, I mean, just everything from sort of quote-unquote revisionist historians... Right.
	...through to the capture of, like, the English Heritage and National Trust.
	Right.
	All sorts of things, all sorts of even film and TV drama.
	Right.
	Which, uh... We've actually got an example of that here, so... The blackwashing of our history for some reason.
	So you're a proper historian, aren't you?
	You know about, you know, stuff that happened.
	So, I'm going to show you a short clip and you're going to tell me if you can spot any inconsistencies.
	Alright.
	So, uh, yep.
	This is Amberlynn, apparently.
	So incongruous, isn't it?
	- I'm looking for a father.
	- Oh boy, I'll be a great ruler. - You doubt our daughter has what to take. - So incongruous, isn't it?
	It's so, it's weird.
	What? - I did note in the comments to this were a lot of black women saying, "What the hell are you doing?" This is insane.
	I don't want to be betrayed as a 16th century white woman.
	What are you doing?
	But also, it leads the way for like, what if Lawrence Fox was like Muhammad Ali or Malcolm X?
	You know, you can't put an actor, a white actor, in a man's role of like, you know, they'd be out for it!
	You've got to think that St.
	George of Floyd is going to be getting a movie soon.
	What if they did Jack Black as that and Lucy Liu as Derek Chauvin or something?
	It's insane.
	And to something like, say, Bridgerton, which isn't historical in any way, then, you know, use whatever you want.
	Use whoever you want.
	But when it's something historical, you should kind of... Because people will be watching it and they want to understand history.
	And then you're like, oh, you know, you're a young kid.
	Well, how was a black woman married to, you know, Henry VIII and... And why not just make Henry VIII the black woman?
	Why not, right?
	You know, it's... Yeah.
	Mildly inconsiderate.
	It is as absurd as that.
	The Royal Shakespeare Society put on a Richard III a couple of years back, and yeah, Richard was played by a black woman.
	Oh right, okay.
	So they've done that.
	So, what do we think on this one?
	Because I think that this is going to get better, because it's so absurd at this point, I can't see it getting worse.
	What do you guys reckon?
	How are we scoring this one?
	I think it will have to get better.
	I think it will, like you said, there's, you know, black women out there saying this is nuts, and if it happened the other way around, there would be absolute outrage.
	Because that's where they've got to go next if they're going to carry this on.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Malcolm X. Like a biopic of Mensa Musa cast as Ryan Gosling.
	I feel like there's not too much further it can go in its absurdity.
	It might go a bit further because why not ride it to the bitter end.
	But I imagine it's got to show.
	Dylan Mulvaney.
	Funny you should mention it.
	Why have they used an actual biological female?
	That's not really very inclusive, is it?
	Yeah, so we're going to go better on that.
	So we're off to a flying start.
	This is white pills everywhere.
	Everything is getting better.
	So the second one I've got is the alphabet people.
	Now, I forgot to mention this to you before we went on air, but you've got to be a little bit careful with your terminology here because YouTube are a bit ban-heavy on this one.
	So, I just say the alphabet people because I'm thinking of, and I always get this wrong, was it the LBTQIA+, the alphabet people.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, I know what you mean, don't worry, you just have to say that.
	And I know that you know about this one because of this tweet.
	Oh, you missed, go on, you've got to scroll up a bit, get the whole picture for the joke.
	Oh, hang on.
	There you go.
	There you go, you've got to have the horses in.
	Yes.
	So, um... What are you driving at with this one, then, Leonie?
	Well, it's a bit of a pantomime horse, isn't it?
	Yes.
	Yes, it is a bit.
	Um, and I also wanted to point out that, um... Oh, you've got the new links, John.
	Have you... Any way we can throw up the... Are they on there anywhere?
	Throw up, did you say?
	I would throw up.
	No, no, well... On the right, maybe.
	But, um, yeah, I've... Oh, nowhere is it.
	Oh, we come back to that.
	But I was just sort of making the point that... He was doing it.
	There we go.
	So that's what beauty pageant winners look like these days.
	That's a disgrace.
	Because you got in a bit of trouble for this one, didn't you?
	How did you describe this lovely video?
	Matt, I've got to be careful, haven't I?
	Because of YouTube.
	So how do I say?
	I can just say I got into an absolute lot of trouble.
	Lady is called Brian, actually called Brian.
	So, you know what, I'm going to say, why are these women in the background clapping?
	I mean, it's a disgrace.
	I think I would have walked off at that point.
	But I'm just going to be very careful with what I say.
	But I did get into trouble talking about it.
	But, you know, So if you're listening rather than watching, you're going to be a bit confused, but just bear with us.
	There's something on the screen which is not a traditional beauty pageant.
	Yeah, Brian!
	We do have a traditional beauty pageant winner in the next one.
	John, do you want to go to that?
	Why is there a sumo wrestler in a dress?
	There we go.
	Oh God, look at my hair then!
	Yeah, oh God.
	But that's what beauty pageant winners used to look like.
	They used to be women, yeah.
	Yes, yes, there is that.
	So, um...
	What do you think about this?
	Because I tell you, the reason I'm optimistic on this one is because during COVID, when the students didn't have access to their teachers, alphabet people rates plummeted right that's interesting yes yes so it's they're clearly being sort of groomed and i sort of think people are getting on to it now oh yeah everyone's everyone's getting sick of it especially when it's going on in sport now
	you know i think it was just there was just a man that won the women's um 200 meters or 400 meters um but just you know it's It's just happening in sport all the time as well.
	I mean, beauty pageants.
	This, see when I won Miss Great Britain, this was in 98, so 25 years ago, 26 years ago.
	That opened the world to me.
	I managed to get a visa to go to America because of it.
	I got all sorts of endorsements, money and whatever.
	Those women behind Brian, Whoever didn't win lost out on a scholarship, you know?
	At some point, women, if it's going to get better, I've got to say, I'm not going to participate.
	I'm just going to stop.
	And I think that's also what happened.
	So I did see a story recently about, um, it was in the US and it was, uh, I think it was a shot put.
	Yes.
	And all the women basically walked up to the little throwing pit thing and then just walked off without throwing because they all refute.
	So they did exactly what you're suggesting.
	And the sports authority gave them all lifetime bans.
	I think it's only the next, I think it got changed just to one band.
	But it turns out that, you know, the teacher was one of the allies of those alphabet people.
	So, you know, and it's actually a dance play.
	It happened in a dance event a little while ago.
	That the, I think it was a quarterfinalist, refused to play against, you know, one of these people.
	So, um... Ludu.
	Ludu, I'm a Ludu.
	Yes, and that's the only way it's going to stop, I think.
	Unless, um... Well, everyone just goes out and starts placing bets on... Well, unless we just... I mean, I suppose we might need them if all... If on your segment, if all the women have to wear the letterbox thing, we will need the new ladies.
	Make up the records.
	Of all things shot put, or swimming, of all the things, it's so not fair.
	Like, it's really... Like, of course the dude is going to dominate that.
	Shot putting?
	Yeah.
	Of all things, like upper body and shoulders and stuff, it's just... I've not seen one of these alphabet people win...
	A female ballet competition yet.
	Right, yeah, something that requires grace and delicacy.
	You get some big six-foot dude with his Adam's apple.
	I think, hopefully this, a bit like the last thing we said about the blackwashing in TV and films.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't seem to me too much further it can go, because we've almost reached the zenith of absurdity.
	You've got alphabet admirals and generals in the US now.
	Where else is there to go with it?
	And I also think that actual, not just homosexual people, but actual true transgender people, true intersex people, there's such a tiny, tiny number of people in society, Tiny, tiny number of people.
	So if it's something like casting black people in white roles, well, you could see how there's a massive demographic of people that would want to see that, perhaps.
	But when it comes to sort of inter-gender, transgender, intersex stuff, it's actually a tiny, tiny, tiny number of people, right?
	And hardly anyone wants to see their kids Sexualized from a young age, almost sort of forced to go to sort of drag shows or whatever.
	I think the kickback on that will be bigger and quicker.
	Right.
	I hope, I think.
	You're optimistic.
	And I think it's already sort of begun as well.
	I think.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Are you optimistic on this one?
	I'm optimistic.
	I think, you know, when we first mentioned it like years ago, people were like, oh, it's such a minority.
	And as, as you know, As it's taken over a bit more and you keep reading weekly about some dude winning a Women's Ray.
	Yes.
	People are getting sick of it and that's it.
	They're getting absolutely sick of it.
	The dads are out.
	Everyone's getting sick of it and it's unoptimistic.
	Right.
	We are full optimism so far.
	My next one, I haven't got any links for this, but lockdowns.
	Do you think that could ever happen again?
	I didn't comply with any of the original lockdowns so I would like to be hopeful but I don't know because I think people got so brainwashed.
	I'm really torn on that one.
	I think people could be fooled again because I've seen what they're like.
	I think they could be fooled again.
	I personally will not ever comply.
	And I'd like to think more people have come our way on this, but I'm not sure.
	I'm a bit iffy on this one because, you know, I speak to some normie relatives and I say, well, it was obviously a nonsense.
	Do you see now what I was saying the whole time?
	It was obviously a nonsense.
	And they say, oh, I think it was justified at the time.
	So I don't.
	What do you think if they did it again?
	You think it would work?
	Well, I think in general a lot of people, a lot of quote-unquote normies, will be a bit more savvy than they were the first time.
	I don't think it will play out in exactly the same way, but the general concept of sort of martial law or just curfews It will happen again at some point in our future because that's what history suggests.
	At some point there'll be an emergency.
	The government will tell you there's an existential threat.
	Not necessarily from a pandemic or from a disease.
	It could be from all sorts of things.
	There is now martial law in place.
	That will happen again in our future.
	You're going to go on the negative, aren't you?
	I think I'm going to have to go on the negative because, yeah, it might not be a pandemic.
	It could be something else, maybe.
	Yes.
	Oh, the climate.
	You can't drive a mile away from your house.
	One of the things governments sort of insist on as sort of the bottom line of their authority is false.
	And the soft version of that is the police, but ultimately it's the army.
	Yeah.
	I suspect in our lifetimes, in America, there will be martial law in various places at various times.
	Well, it almost is on the campuses at the moment, isn't there?
	They're talking about bringing in the National Guard for these protests.
	Well, during the LA riots in, what, 92 or 93 or whatever, there was martial law in LA.
	They brought in the army to stop the rioting.
	We had a summer, was it two summers ago now, the summer of George Floyd?
	Yeah.
	Something like that will happen again.
	Yeah.
	So anyway.
	So we've had our first negative mark.
	Okay, what about VAC's mandates?
	That's my next one.
	I mean, I'm torn on that one as well.
	I mean, they're really throwing bird flu around at the moment, aren't they?
	They are definitely pushing something there.
	You know, and again, that'll probably be a hill I die on.
	I'll be struggling to the bitter end, but you know, It's... Look, I'm really... I'm really happy the way Britain really pushed back against that, because, you know, people... There was a lot of pushback, more so than we saw in, like, New Zealand calendar.
	I was kind of encouraged also by Austria, if you remember that one, because they made it a legal requirement, and they walked it up to the day before that they were going to go out and have to arrest people for not having their vax.
	And it was something like four, five, maybe six million Austrians that they were going to have to arrest.
	And like, however many millions of people it was, they just held the line and said, no, we're not doing this.
	And the government had to back down because the only way they could have done it is by hastily erecting concentration camps, massive ones, millions of people in.
	So people did hold the line on it, and I'm also encouraged because the vax uptake for children is minuscule.
	It's like less than a percentage point or something.
	So at some level people know, even if they got it themselves, I think they know.
	And lawsuits are going to help.
	The lawsuits for all those people in the USA that got fired from their jobs.
	Yeah.
	So you're starting to see it now.
	What do you think?
	Optimistic or pessimistic on this one?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Like you, Lonnie, I didn't take it.
	I never will.
	And it is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
	Actually.
	Physically.
	No, you'd have to send two or three blokes around my house and strap me into a gurney before I let that filth go in my body.
	It's as simple as that.
	No, it's not happening.
	They pushed it quite to the limit here because I remember it was over one Christmas.
	They were going to say, because in France, you couldn't get on a train unless you showed your vaccine passport.
	And they were going to do that here, and I started to actually make plans of, okay, I'm never going to go on a train again.
	I remember them pushing it right up to the limit, and then they said, actually, it was just before they brought the restrictions down a bit.
	So whether they try that again, I fear they will, because the Whoever it is that really controls a lot of policy in the West at least, whether it's the WHO or whether it's the Klaus Schwab controlled cabinets that kowtow to the... I think they overplayed their hand.
	Whatever it is, I wouldn't put it past them to try again.
	Whether people will put up with it is another question.
	But you've got pushback now, so we've got the Telegraph running stories like this about people who... I think people are less naive now, hopefully.
	But, you know, this guy was fit and healthy before his vax and it nearly killed him.
	And this kind of thing is now making its way onto mainstream media.
	So I think they overplayed their hand.
	I don't think they're going to get away with it again.
	But, I mean, I'll take your votes.
	There's obviously so many examples of this.
	Yes.
	And I've got to give a shout out to Andrew Bridger, an MP, for having the testicular fortitude to talk about it and refuse to stop talking about it.
	I've got to give him big credit for that.
	So where do you come down on this one then?
	Optimistic or pessimistic?
	Unfortunately pessimistic, I think.
	Donny?
	Oh, I'm really on the fence.
	You're the deciding vote on this one.
	Do you know what?
	I'm just going to put the good vibes out there.
	I'm going to be positive.
	Just to put the good vibes out.
	Excellent.
	Right.
	Next one.
	Do we think that this will ever be recognised for what it was?
	So for those listening, I'm showing that Time article about how we fortified the election.
	the secret history the i mean they actually even say um a cabal was put together um in order to sort of get the right outcome but it's not kind of official for a long time we were banned on youtube for even talking about this banned well we know we weren't banned but we would have been banned if we Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I didn't realize this is one of the things they were banning.
	Yeah.
	So they've decided we can talk about it now.
	But the official story is, of course, that Joe Biden is the most popular president of all time.
	In fact, it looks like the only reason Obama won is because he had Joe Biden as his as his VP.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I think this will come out and it will just be one of those accepted historical facts like, yeah, we rigged that one.
	I think eventually, one day, it will come out.
	I mean, maybe when we're all dead.
	Yeah, like you said, it will just be accepted as, oh well, that's what it is.
	Politics has always been a bit corrupt.
	We have got the next one coming up soon, where they're sort of going to the ends of the earth to make sure that even recent arrivals across the border can vote without ID.
	So I don't think he's past them at the moment.
	So this one is a tricky one.
	Is this going to get better or worse, do we think?
	I would imagine worse.
	I mean, it's a story as old as time.
	I mean, you say almost as though it's a cliché for a reason.
	There has always and probably will always be a degree of electoral fraud.
	I heard someone say that in 2016, when Hillary ran, they didn't cheat enough.
	And then when Biden ran, they cheated too much.
	I'm fascinated by the 1960 election.
	It's where JFK beat Nixon in 1960.
	And it's very, very well documented the amount of fraud that went on there.
	In some places, more votes were cast than there were people.
	The Mafia were all mixed up in it, and Joe Kennedy, that's John Kennedy's father, was all mixed up in all sorts of shady shenanigans.
	But the point is, there will almost certainly be some degree of electoral fraud.
	It just depends how blatant it is, on what scale it is.
	But you're going pessimistic on election integrity then?
	Yeah, again, the shape of history is that when republics begin to fall apart, Like the United States appears to be.
	If you look at the example of the Athenian Republic or the Roman Republic.
	Yeah, bribery and electoral fraud.
	It will be a trajectory downwards.
	It will become more and more venal and corrupt until it doesn't work anymore.
	That is what every republic thus far in human history I mean, you've decided a sort of precedent of 2,000 year history that all points in the same direction.
	What do you think, Liany?
	Do you think this is going to get better, this sort of stuff?
	I don't think it's going to get better, I think there's going to continue to be this election fraud, but I do think the story's going to come out, and I'm positive about that, but it's not going to matter because it's kind of, you know... Because they don't care.
	Because they don't care and there'll be another story that, you know, turns everyone's heads or something.
	Even if they came out and said it absolutely, a million percent
	was fraudulent they would never you know it would be tomorrow's uh yesterday's news like they don't care anymore so i think i think i'm gonna have to agree on that one i think i think this sort of stuff is going to get worse not better yeah i think and also it doesn't matter to the extent that it's a uniparty yes and the the mechanisms of government the bureaucracy what we might call the civil service remains the same anyway whether you've got biden or the donald
	The first time Mr Trump claimed he was going to drain the swamp and he gave it a go but didn't really get very far with it did he?
	He got rid of Comey but he didn't clear out the intelligence services.
	The kind of thing that all he did was froth up the swamp enough that you could see the swamp creatures So it kind of did its job on that, but he didn't get rid of any.
	No, he didn't get rid of any of them, did he?
	And it's almost an impossibility.
	I think for this all to come out in the wash anytime soon, decades down the line, you'll get historians that talk about it freely, but for it to come out in the wash in the next five years, it would require...
	I would have thought the Republicans would need control of Congress, two-thirds in the Senate, they'd need a perfectly clean FBI, a perfectly clean Department of Justice, which is just not going to happen.
	But it's like Kennedy's death, isn't it?
	It's like, doesn't even matter anymore.
	Yeah, we kind of all know, but... We know, but what's going to be done about it?
	Nothing, because everyone's dead.
	Yes.
	Right, next one, so that was a bummer as well, next one is mass immigration.
	Is that going to get better or worse?
	And again, on my logic of, they've taken it to such an extreme at this point.
	Unprecedented in all of human history, these migrations of people.
	Yeah.
	And I think the backlash is coming.
	In fact, I note, um, oh, there we go.
	The, um, yeah.
	So in, in, in Ireland, um, they just go around now burning down these sort of asylum centers.
	You know, they, they, they realize that the, the democratic process is just such a complete farce.
	Now I'm not endorsing this of course, but you know, Irish chaps have been saying, yeah, we're, we're not going to, we're not going to have it.
	We're just going to burn them down.
	Well I think the pendulum's really kind of swinging now and I think it could go extreme the other way which also won't be good but I don't see it getting better democratically like you know I think they're just going to keep, we've spoken about Serco and all the money involved and I think it's too much money is being made and you know Even with the house building now and everything else, there's too much money involved.
	I just don't see it.
	Unless the British people themselves take a stand, I don't think the government's going to do anything about it.
	And I could be wrong, or maybe something will happen, but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
	Something could be, are we going to halve it?
	Are we going to take it down to 700,000 a year instead of 1.4 million?
	And then they say, OK, that's a big win, but it's still 700,000 a year.
	Well, are you optimistic on this one, Bo?
	I actually agree with Lani on a couple of points there that I think we're in the process of the pendulum swinging.
	I think we're living through, yeah, I think, I hope we're living through that process, but also it will get worse before it gets better.
	So we're at the beginning of the pendulum, say the pendulum's reached its momentum.
	Right, but maybe a little bit further.
	And yeah, because again, if you look at the example of history, it never works for long.
	You can't just take Massive amounts of foreign people and supplant them against the will of a native population and it worked.
	That has never ever happened!
	That has never happened, and it not end in blood and tears.
	Yes.
	So, just that.
	Right.
	It cannot continue indefinitely.
	It can't just flood Ireland and Britain or France or Germany or the United States with foreign Fifth Columnists, enemies of the state, and expect it to work.
	But is it going to get better?
	In the end, but I believe it will get worse.
	Let's pick a 10 year time scale.
	Will it be better in 10 years?
	What will England even look like in 10 years?
	I can't even imagine.
	We're going to have a very loose definition of better by then, aren't we?
	I think in the timeline, in the universe we're living in, 10 years is a long time.
	I wouldn't like to predict.
	I would hope so.
	I would hope that we'd be re-migrating people by that point.
	Right.
	But whether that is true, whether that happens or not, I fear not.
	But on a longer time scale, in a century, let's say, I think I would have thought we'd be in a better place.
	It might be a bit long for our purposes.
	I think we might all be gone.
	I don't know if there's any going to be any rise left.
	Are we going to go with negative on this one then?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I want to be positive.
	I really want to be positive.
	Right.
	I'm going to have to be a bit pessimistic, I think.
	Pessimistic on this one.
	Don't worry, we booked some early wins, so we might be alright.
	Net zero.
	Yeah, that's my next one.
	Net zero.
	So, sort of encouraged on that one, because of course you've got the Blade Runners in London, chopping around cameras.
	You've got the farmers' protests where they have had some wins.
	And you've got Tony Blair saying, come on chaps, you might actually want to win an election.
	This is being a bit silly now.
	This also feels to me like something that has sort of reached the top of the pendulum.
	So do we think this net zero stuff is going to get better or worse?
	I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.
	It's going to have to really pee some people off.
	Right.
	Blackouts.
	Yeah, I think it's going to have to really get under people's skin because it's such a scam.
	And, you know, until people start getting taxed and saying that, you know, these holidays they took the jabs for are going to go up by 20% because of, you know, the net zero taxes added.
	Until that happens and, you know, people's lives Uh, made a little bit more uncomfortable.
	I don't think it will, but when that happens, I think people are really good.
	You're right.
	They took the job so they could do the holiday.
	Yeah.
	Now they're going to get a carbon tax on their flight.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Germany's just put it up to 20%, which is put it up.
	Yeah.
	20%, which is absolutely insane.
	Up to 20%, I think.
	It'll be 200% before long, won't it?
	It'll triple the price of your ticket.
	What about you, Bo?
	Do you think net zero is done at this point?
	I'm more optimistic about this one than some of the others because it's just impracticable.
	It's not really just a case of, can we find a bought and paid for director that's going to cast this crazy cast?
	It's not that.
	It's, it messes, it's not possible to do.
	It's not possible to do.
	Like we had that Alex chap on earlier, like it would involve, um, for example, um, destroying all global trade, right?
	Like all shipping, all shipping would have to come to an end, which would destroy, Society.
	That really would destroy civilisation.
	You get some of these people that say we need to stop farming, for example.
	I really watched a clip just the other day of some student kid saying we need to stop farming because of the CO2.
	It's a nonsense.
	What are you going to eat?
	What are you going to eat?
	Are you going to live on oxygen?
	Oh, his answer will just be, I'll just go to the shops.
	Yeah, it's just like, this is what I mean, and I think even environmentalists now, they're like, hold on a minute, you're covering our beautiful green fields in solar panels, you're chopping down millions of trees to put up wind turbines.
	So that you can chop up birds.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And they're seeing the contradiction in it all.
	I think it... But, overall, I kind of agree with Yarny that People are making so much money, it's going to continue to get worse before it gets better.
	Well that's the thing, I'm not sure if they are, because I think the truly wealthy, moneyed class make a lot of money the way it is.
	For example, Mazatlan, or people that are involved in shipping.
	Let's just take the example of shipping.
	They're extremely powerful cartels of people.
	Oh, you're saying it's going to mess with other people's money?
	Yeah.
	Right, OK.
	If you start messing with energy magnets, then they're extremely powerful interests in society.
	And most people that have bought the climate change hoax They're the older generation, aren't they?
	Like the climate extinction people.
	They're nutters who haven't really understood reality properly.
	You know, someone like Greta Thunberg, that the world is going to end, or we're all going to be underwater by 2012 or something.
	It's a religious deal, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	And I don't think they've got a good enough argument.
	I mean, CO2 doesn't drive climate change.
	Sorry, it doesn't.
	It's plant food, if anything.
	Exactly.
	I'm going to wear my badge.
	I fed a hundred oak trees today.
	So let's whiz through a couple more.
	Next one I've got is inflation.
	I'm pretty solid on this one.
	It's going to get a hell of a lot worse.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	Well, I think when the dollar collapses to their $35 trillion debt, inflation will get worse, yeah.
	Welfarism.
	So welfarism is driving the dissolution of family bonds, it's driving up welfare, atomisation, all that sort of stuff.
	60% of London housing is first-generation immigrants at this point.
	I think that we just simply can't afford it, but again it's one of those ones where it kind of has to get worse before it gets better.
	Definitely going to get worse before it gets better, I think, because I don't see a way of them stopping it until, you know, people just start... There is a way to stop it, which is you have the same family models as the rest of the world, which is you have multi-generational families living together instead of welfare.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no, no.
	I see how it can be stopped.
	I just don't see that our government, any of us, are going to step in and do anything.
	If the Conservatives won't, then wait and see what happens if and when I'm sure Labour are going to get in.
	It's just going to get worse.
	I mean, it's going to get worse.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	Are you optimistic, Bo?
	No, no.
	Our governments are effectively socialist.
	You know, someone like Billy Bragg would ask to have a path built from him from cradle to grave.
	Yeah.
	And that gives all the power to the state.
	Yeah.
	And that's the way the state wants it.
	Because people are no longer reliant on their families and their bonds that bind them.
	It's all dependent on the government.
	Exactly.
	If you're self-sufficient, then the government don't really have that control over you or that power.
	But as soon as you need them, to live then you know all your power goes to them so i think that's that's uh a huge massive part of it they want people to be dependent on them number 10 on the list um is is i put tv says are we still in the realm of you know you know this is the whole thing the tv says something and then everyone believes it I think the back of that is broken.
	I like to think the back of that is broken.
	I think what we're doing here right now, even GB News, I think a lot of the corporate mainstream media has lost... Fundamentally, people have lost trust in it.
	A lot of people.
	Not everyone, by any means, but... So, the figures that I've seen on this are quite encouraging, because basically, if you're under 40, you don't watch TV.
	You watch online.
	Because that trend first appeared when it was younger people, millennials, living at home.
	Because they wouldn't sit in the family room and watch the TV, they'd watch their personal screens.
	And then when they move into their own place, they keep their own habits.
	So people are just moving away from whatever the TV says.
	So I'm quite optimistic on this one, that the back of the corporate media will be broken soon.
	Absolutely.
	I'm really positive as well.
	I just don't think it's... You just have to look at TV ratings now, don't you?
	Everything's like, plummeted down newspaper.
	No one reads the papers anymore.
	It's all social media.
	The only worry is censorship.
	Oh, that's my next one.
	Censorship.
	Is that going to get worse or better?
	That's going to get worse because people aren't looking at the TV.
	So the only way to control us now is to start censoring what's on social media and what us young people do watch and where we do get our news.
	The censorship is going to get worse.
	Yeah, I mean, we got a strike, didn't we?
	We were off air like five days off YouTube recently and they've obviously been cracking down on GB News quite heavily.
	Yes.
	In fact, for basically any excuse.
	X, interestingly, has gone the other way.
	So I like that.
	Yeah.
	But then it feels like they're going to try and find a way as soon as they can of getting rid of that, like TikTok.
	Well, the governments are getting involved, aren't they, to try and censor X and TikTok and all the rest of it.
	They really, really don't want people... I think they're terrified, absolutely terrified of social media and other ways that people can speak.
	And even in person, like, you know, during the lockdowns, you can't get together as a group.
	Why?
	Because they don't want people speaking.
	And didn't Scotland They might have reversed it now, but didn't they temporarily have a law that said you can't even... They were trying to censor it in your own home.
	Yes.
	And there's no one there.
	They wanted to turn the Alexas on to make sure that you couldn't say anything that they didn't like.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure if it was Alexa.
	I did wonder how they were going to enforce that, whether it would have to be somebody in your own home recording you, otherwise it's someone's word against the other.
	But you do have all those devices, like Alexa and what have you, recording everything you say.
	So I think it's, yeah, that's a scary thing.
	So that's right.
	Last one.
	You didn't ask me about this.
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	It's one of the things I've written about most extensively.
	I've got a ridiculously pessimistic view on it.
	I feel we're going to end up in sort of a Maoist era, Stalinist era.
	You're not allowed to think what the party doesn't want you to think.
	Let me just say it.
	I do fear that's in our future.
	If you look at the internet in the old days, the early internet, it was a Wild West, right?
	Yes.
	And we're not there anymore, and I see the trajectory going the same way.
	People don't watch the TV as much anymore.
	The internet is better than TV, as simple as that.
	Yes.
	For a myriad of different reasons.
	Yes, subscribe to LetTheTeachers.com!
	So the Uni Party, the powers that be, will need to censor it.
	Yes.
	Yes, they have to.
	I feel like that's... The last one on my list before we go to the comments is The Deep State.
	The deep state, the CIA, the Feds, all that kind of stuff, that control mechanism.
	The GCHQ boys, how you doing?
	Yeah, hi Gary, how you doing?
	I call them the acronym club, the WEF, the WEH show, all of those.
	Are they on the verge of exiting the stage at this point?
	I don't think so.
	Not yet.
	I think they've definitely overplayed their hand.
	I think more people are onto it.
	We can see them.
	Yeah, we can see it.
	We see it happening.
	But I've always thought, you know, I've been into this for like the last 20 years.
	So, you know, I've seen them overplay their hand, as I said, and I've seen that it's more obvious.
	But I don't think we still know who the top, top, top, top people are pulling the strings.
	We know a lot of them, but I don't think we know all of them, and I think they will also... We know there's something there, but we just haven't quite figured out... Well, they're going to be more desperate now.
	They're like caged animals, aren't they?
	Well, they're going to have to drop a lot of the pretense and just use hard power now.
	That's the problem, yeah.
	What about you Ben, do you reckon?
	The real power has always laid with the deep state, whatever you want to call it.
	Yeah, the Battalion Guard.
	The intelligence services, there's all sorts of ways you could describe it.
	Who are they, like in America, whether it's, I mean it's not just the CIA, it's like the NSA, there's all sorts of military intelligence.
	It's not even necessarily the Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon.
	Yeah, those that control, they're not going anywhere, they're not going anywhere.
	You know, and the Soros types with the billions that can influence everything.
	Like, you know, and the NGOs and all of those people like moving the Africans and the Middle Easterns to Mexico.
	And they've got government and financial backing.
	They've got everything.
	Everything.
	They've got everything.
	They can support it all.
	I think that's the final boss of our set of problems is the DSA.
	Yes.
	It's so deeply entrenched though, because there's this argument, isn't there, that Dr Parvenu talks about, that populism is a delusion, that just the normal people, a mob, rise up like in 1789 and take control.
	That's almost certainly not going to happen.
	We don't really live in that kind of paradigm anymore.
	So it would be extremely, extremely difficult.
	So we're going to have to go with a no on this one.
	Right, so anyway, I've got a scoring system for this uplifting segment.
	And the scores go from going to hell, slow grind, stay as they are, modest improvement, and what I was hoping for, which is return to reason.
	We scored slow grind.
	So it could be worse.
	Could be worse, right?
	Could be worse.
	Second word, we're not going to hell.
	And things are not staying as they are, even.
	I have faith in the human spirit that you can't put up with so much repression and lies.
	People won't put up with it forever.
	You know, the last most essential command of the party is to disbelieve the evidence of your own eyes and ears.
	That has never really worked indefinitely, again in history.
	That'll work up to a point, and in the end, I think if we were doing this over a 40 year period, I'd be more optimistic.
	But it's just the next few years, which is... I think it'll get worse before it gets better, but will ultimately get better.
	As long as it doesn't get worse before it gets worse.
	But we've all got to fight for it to get better.
	Yes.
	There we go, that's the note of optimism I wanted.
	There we go.
	We're all going to fight.
	Let's go to comments, shall we?
	We haven't got time for more than a couple.
	Well, we do a couple.
	Garlic Goblin says, I wasn't very familiar with Liani, but she is a great guest, really enjoyed her contribution, great debut appearance.
	So, wonderful.
	Ru The Day says, OK, she's winning me over, she's cool, come back any time.
	And Sophie Liv says, what a wonderful guest.
	Thank you, thank you.
	I have to get off my farm, won't I?
	We've had a rumble rant that's come in and it says, my optimism for all the issues in Dan's segment is that Bitcoin adoption will stop the debt-based government spending funny money that keeps these shenanigans going further.
	Oh, we've had a whole load of rumble around, so I'd better quickly bang this up.
	SeanForce87 has said, the same here, Islam comes to change, the migrants come join us.
	He also says the only way back is Christian theocracy, allowing only the Christian faith, like Islamic countries only allow Islam.
	That could work.
	As long as he's a Protestant.
	Yes.
	None of that potpourri going on around here.
	I'm joking.
	I don't want the stink of Rome in this country very much.
	He also says, I remember watching some videos from Manchester, UK of a young 8 year old English boy beaten for being white and a gang of Muslims running around paddling women with two short dresses.
	That was only a few years ago.
	Yes, we might see more of that.
	Just have a quick skim.
	Oh, there's even more rumble rants.
	The Shadow Band says, sadly a lot of leftist parents do want to see their kids sexualized.
	Many celebrities have trans kids.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Having trans kids is now like having a handbag.
	It's a status for woke parents at the cocktail party.
	And O Punk says, for Bo, he's promising to purge the civil service in his next term though, like Sula.
	You're talking about the Donald there, I imagine?
	I'm not sure that might be Donald.
	Yeah, he promised a couple of things.
	I hope I'm on board with him.
	I hope he beats Biden.
	But I haven't got that much faith.
	He had a shot at it last time.
	It stacks against him.
	I think he'll try.
	He'll give it another shot.
	But as I say, he needs the FBI and the Department of Justice to be on board.
	And then probably Congress and the Senate as well.
	All those stars are very, very unlikely to align for him.
	I'm afraid.
	Yeah.
	But I hope, you know, fingers crossed, fingers crossed he can drain the swamp at least a bit more than he did last time.
	So lots of other great comments.
	Unfortunately, we don't have time to get into them now.
	So thank you very much for leaving them.
	And thank you to Bo and a special thanks to lovely Liane for coming in today.
	You were brilliant.
	Thanks very much.
	Thank you.

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