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Jan. 23, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #834
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Good afternoon folks.
Welcome to the podcast of the Low Seaters for the 23rd of January, 2023.
I'm I'm joined by Dan and Justin Nomad, who is an economics writer and dissident voice, shall we say?
Yeah, that's a fair description, I think.
And today we are going to be talking about Fed Front, because they're back, Blacksit, and the general state of the UK.
I'm sure the UK's doing great, isn't it?
Oh yeah, absolutely, yes.
It's fantastic.
Where do you want to start?
I mean, we had 1.2 million immigrants.
I've been told that that means growth.
The more the merrier.
Yeah, line go up.
So let's begin.
Yes, so this is going to be a bit of a follow-on segment to one that you were on, Ashley Carr.
This was January 6th in Inside Job.
Now, I'll quickly summarise it for those of you who haven't watched it.
If you haven't watched it, you should go and watch it.
But if you haven't watched it, the answer is yes.
Um, so, following on from that, I mean, the key point, I mean, is that a fair assessment, Karl?
Oh yeah, totally, and the key point is that Ray Epps didn't get the punishment that everyone else got, even though he's the one on video literally yelling, get in!
Like, if he doesn't get arrested... Well, wasn't the leader of the Proud Boys, he wasn't even in the capital?
No, he wasn't even in the city?
Yeah.
And he went to jail anyway?
Yes.
It's mad.
So anyway, the key part of this that stands out for me is going to be this bit.
Can we play the first click, the vague?
Watch this and see what you make of this.
So the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot actually began as a plot to storm the Capitol in the state of Michigan.
And you know how it started?
It started with people at the FBI putting people up to this.
Poor guys.
One of them was actually supposedly getting hot water from a Mexican restaurant across the street.
These are people who are not doing well in their life, who they've put up and cultivated with $5,000 credit cards with $5,000 limits to go buy munitions and otherwise, to initially what began as a plot to storm the Capitol, but eventually ended up being a plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.
A good number of the people who were captured here, like we're talking about a high proportion of them, were absolutely federal informants.
And yet, the Detroit field office head, and they took that all the way to trial, several of the people at trial were acquitted on grounds of entrapment.
One of the jurors at the end went to one of the defendants, just gave him a hug, and apologized for what he had been through, because the juror actually had to see what the FBI put these people up to.
And you can't make this stuff up.
In October of 2020, three months before January of 2021, Guess who gets a promotion to be the D.C.
field office head?
Was none other than that Detroit field office head.
And what do you have on January 6, 2021, three months later, is a storming of the U.S.
Capitol.
Yeah.
So I mean, that's the key point.
It's just remarkable, isn't it?
Yeah.
It was, it was an FBI entrapment process all the way along.
And then the guy who, who was going to do an entrapment in, in Michigan suddenly got a promotion to, uh, to DC.
Incredible.
Yes.
Remarkable.
Um, so yeah, I mean, there's that, there's also the whole pipe bomb thing that just stinks.
Yeah.
I mean, have we done a segment on that yet?
We covered it last time.
Very briefly.
There was a pipe bomb at the Republican and Democrat headquarters in DC.
Yes.
And you've seen footage come out since that shows the FBI just milling around it, letting families walk past it until the point where the robot turns up and then all of a sudden they take it seriously for the press?
Yeah, and then the whole story disappears and the pipe bombs are never mentioned.
All very strange.
So, um, look, there's something absolutely rotten at the FBI.
Um, they, uh, they have been trapping people.
Um, and look, I just want to make the point that, um, I don't think it's an aberration.
No, didn't something like this happen with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing as well?
I suspect this sort of thing has happened many, many times.
I mean, Beau, our resident historian, has serious questions about the Las Vegas shooters.
I have serious questions about the Las Vegas shooters.
Yeah, and the Oklahoma bombers as well.
They get like £500 a gear up there.
Absolutely, yeah.
A quick reminder, this is who the FBI is.
So let's play this in the background.
Remember this weirdo, Peter Strzok?
He looks normal.
Absolute lunatic.
I've turned the sound off because you don't need to hear him.
But this absolute lunatic is basically what the FBI is.
And I raise him.
I mean, he got fired after this.
He didn't get fired for being a lunatic.
He got fired for taking the mask off in public.
But that is who the FBI is.
Yeah, I mean, James Comey is pathologically anti-Trump.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you remember what he was like.
Yeah.
So, why would I think that the FBI wouldn't have the influence of the command structure running all the way through it?
Yeah.
Of course I would.
And I think that guy is the classic example of what the FBI is.
I mean, yes, there are going to be some good people.
We've probably got some people watching this who can say, Oh, I've got an uncle who works at the FBI.
I've got an uncle who works at the FBI.
Yeah.
What does he do?
Well, he manages Twitter.
Yeah, well, he might be a good guy but he's not getting promoted and he's not going to be in the inner circle.
But the inner circle are pathological people like this, that's exactly who they are.
I'll tell you who understood exactly what the FBI was.
Ron Paul, let's watch this.
You know, most of our history we didn't have those institutions.
The FBI came in during the First World War and Interestingly enough, one thing that Woodrow Wilson did, he used the FBI to spy on American citizens and actually arrest them if they disagreed with his foreign policy about going to war in Europe.
Isn't it interesting how recent they used it in the Vietnam era?
Democrats used it there.
Republicans used the FBI to spy on a hundred different groups in this country, including the churches, who disagree with the policy in Central America.
It almost looks like the FBI was designed to spy on Americans who might be disagreeing with policy, especially the foreign policy.
Yeah, it's such a shame.
If he had become president back in whatever it was, his first run.
2008.
Things would be very, very different.
Yeah, they would.
Yeah.
And I think into the Franklin Roosevelt administration as well, they were used to spy on unions.
I think even Henry Ford did that as well.
And that eventually became, I think, some of the early blueprints for the CIA as well.
So the history of FBI and infiltration is legendary, notorious, isn't it?
But this is my point.
My point is that the FBI is the American Gestapo.
Yeah, that is what it is.
It is a secret police force used to spy on American people.
The only difference between them and the Gestapo is they've got much better PR.
Is that even up for debate?
I mean, yeah, absolutely.
It's like they put themselves in the movies, in TV shows.
When somebody thinks of the FBI, they're probably thinking of Mulder and Scully, but no, it's Peter Strzok.
That is the exact character you want to be going from, but they are a secret police.
Now, what might a secret police be helpful for?
So I think that... Purging dissidents?
Well, that's certainly one.
But I think the US has got a bit of a problem in that it has a supply and demand problem with neo-Nazis.
In that the demand for neo-Nazis is considerably higher than the actual supply.
So what do you do when you have a massive supply and demand problem?
Well, I know what the government likes to do.
They do something called a market intervention.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, which is when you intervene in the market to correct the supply and demand imbalance.
I like approaching this issue through the lens of economics.
It does explain quite a lot.
We've got two economists on the panel, so I thought why not frame it like that.
Now, how do they ramp up the amount of neo-Nazis?
You might think it's quite easy, because at the moment we're subsidizing neo-Nazis in Ukraine to the tune of many billions.
So you think they could just go and get them, but no, they've decided to gin up their own and enter patriotic front.
So let's have a look at this.
So this tweet, I mean, Jesse sort of nails it there.
The story isn't that these guys are fed.
Everybody knows that by now.
The story is, as so often, why would the feds run an operation like that?
Can we click into the video?
Can we do that?
Um, this is basically, um, these guys who pop up every so often, uh, and sort of march around in their... well, what is basically an FBI uniform, the khaki pants and the blue jacket.
They've just taken the letters off the back.
So what I love about this is that this... think about Antifa.
These are like the anti-Antifa, the negative image of Antifa.
This is what Antifa want to exist in order for them to justify acting like the conditions of the 1930s in Germany.
They want the organized black shirts or brown shirts or blue shirts in France.
Well, they want this organized fascist, um, uh, institution to be able to deploy men on the streets so they can go and punch Nazis.
They can fight them in the streets.
They can be heroic.
They can have that battle of cable streets.
You know, Oh, I was there.
I fought the Nazis.
I'm such a hero because that's their only paradigm for heroism is fighting Nazis.
But the problem that they have is of course, Americans just aren't like that.
The Americans, it's Trump's guys, it's the MAGA crew, it's the boomers who like their guns, who like their freedom, who like Israel.
It's very like normal Americanism and this doesn't look like Americanism.
That's the thing.
The great thing about the Americans is they come from the Anglo tradition of do-it-yourself and so they've got all their sort of stickers on their bumpers, they've got We've heard of manufactured demand.
This is like manufactured supply.
Yes, exactly.
out of them.
You see at the Donald Trump rallies, they all look slightly different and everyone's got their own individual thing.
It's not regimented and organized like this.
We've heard of manufactured demand.
This is like manufactured supply.
Yes, exactly.
You know, bridge the equilibrium.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so this is why everyone looks at that and goes, well, I don't see myself in that at all.
That doesn't look like a representation of America.
That's not America being made present in the streets.
Whereas when you see MAGA out, you know, cheering for Donald Trump, that actually does look like the opposite of Antifa is basically a family.
Well, there's two ways of looking at it.
That's not like a different paradigm, is it?
But what they want is an ideological enemy that's organized and operates in the same way that they do.
And they can't get one, and that's what the feds are producing for them.
Another quick thing is, where is Antifa?
You never see Antifa attacking these guys, right?
You never see it because you would think, okay, great.
No, no, no.
You've got your fascists.
There they are.
They're right there.
They're literally saying, hey, we're Nazis, guys.
Let's go out and march.
Well, go on, Antifa.
Well, it's not even the absence of that.
It's the absence of any counter-protester when these guys go out.
So let's have a look at this.
Emir King here, I don't know who that is, but he makes a good point.
He said, I've spent years in prison surrounded by white supremacists.
You couldn't get them to cover their faces if you tried.
They aren't ashamed at all.
They're extremely proud of their views.
That's why it's called white pride, not white shame.
There's only one reason why all of these guys have their faces covered.
And those of you who are listening, it's basically cut, we've got a video of them on the train on the way there.
And they've all got their faces covered apart from the apparent leader guy.
So just a quick thing as well.
Let's talk about the apparent leader guy.
So there are a bunch of these types of organizations.
There's one in Florida where they went out literal Nazis and they seem to be led by Satan himself.
The guy in the red and black suit.
And he's marching around like he's a drill instructor, like he's a drill sergeant, performing.
And he's the only one with his face out.
It's like, okay, well, who is he?
How can he not have any social media presence?
How is it that the Antifa aren't aware of these guys?
How is it that they're not on Twitter saying all of the things they say?
And they have what essentially looks like a theater kid at the front.
He is fantastic at performance.
And, you know, as people who do presenting for a living, You get to see the tells.
You see the tells of someone who's been trained to communicate with people.
And these guys communicate brilliantly, apart from all the ones in the base.
It's just the one guy at the front who is like the drill sergeant theatre kid of this little production.
Very suspicious.
Speaking of military precision, let's go to the next one because that for me was also telling.
So this is basically them Yeah.
Go for a beer.
with their little protest.
Watch the precision to which they bug out.
Now, you imagine you go on a protest with your mates, you'd break off into groups, you'd have a chat, you'd be slapping each other on the back.
Go for a beer.
Yeah, go for a beer.
That's what we did at the Freedom Rallies.
But look at this.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but look at this.
These guys, there's no talking to each other.
They know exactly that all of the equipment goes in one pickup.
And then basically we can...
It's all very neatly coordinated.
Again, no talking.
They all know where they're going.
Can we pause it a second?
Sorry.
Can we pause it?
Yeah.
Right.
Go back a little bit.
Is there anything on the license plate of that car?
No, the license plate's blank.
Right, because I noticed that on the other one as well, from the other angle.
The cars all seem to have nothing on the license plate.
Is there any chance that, I don't know, Nick Fuentes or Tommy Robinson could go and organize a protest with cars with no license plates on them?
It seems unlikely, doesn't it?
Hardly get out of the driveway before police would apprehend you.
And yet they do this in the capital or in New York, you know, very secure areas.
Broad daylight, no problem.
But also incredibly left-wing areas.
No leftists harassing them.
No police harassing them.
So I'm sorry, that just does not happen.
And if you want, I mean, let's go on a bit, but basically what you see is they all go into groups of three and four, they know exactly what vehicle they're going to, they don't talk to each other, they all get in when the last one gets in, they hold on and take off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very precise.
I mean, and like you say, we went to the freedom protests and the anti-lockdown protests, and it wasn't like that in the slightest.
It was...
Yeah, chaotic.
People broke off to go to the pub, or some groups went off to get a train, but it was not military precision like this.
There wasn't someone in charge of it.
There was someone in charge of this.
These people have been drilled to do this.
Yes.
So, let's go to the next one, the Mr. Reagan tweet.
Mr. Reagan has a good take on this.
He points it out.
Look, the guy leading this, he has zero charisma.
No one would ever join a group that he's lead off.
That's worth making the point.
So let's click into this video and just listen a little bit to this little chap who is apparently in charge.
New York has been in the news quite a bit lately.
Around 300 communists tried to shut down all the bridges around Manhattan this month to advocate for Palestine along the continued communist goals of turning this country into a collage of brown black slums in which everyone is perfectly equal in their squalor.
So we can kill the sound on that, but you sort of get the idea.
So this guy, who looks a bit like an extra from Fraggle Rock, is apparently the alpha male leading all these six-foot-one gym bros that he's got lined up behind him.
Now, you know, if you are, you know, a liberal woman or a beta male, just check in with a man.
That is not the sort of dude you follow.
But also what's interesting is it's just highly ideological speech that he's giving us here.
If you just look at the way, I mean, his name is Rousseau, which is interesting.
And he's giving a very, very ideologically laden speech.
He's using lots of particular formulations that aren't the sort of way a person would describe the lived experience of their own lives.
What he's describing is something very abstract and that draw you inexorably towards a certain goal.
So now I'm not saying that such a thing obviously doesn't or can't exist.
It's just when you put it into the tapestry that we have been presented with, if you were going to create a Nazi front, It would look a lot like that.
Everything he says is like if you went to chat GBT and said please write me a white supremacist manifesto.
It's like so on the nose.
It's like something from a miniseries.
It's acted and scripted and coordinated and directed and even the video that's been uploaded just seems too smooth for a protest.
Just on the point of the guy himself, that is real... I mean, if there was a Patriot Army, you could see him maybe being a second lieutenant, put in charge of the convicts, Diggler the treans, but that guy is not a general.
He's just some kid who's put on a hat and a pair of sunglasses and has got people lining up behind him.
Now, I don't think that everybody behind him is a Fed.
In fact, I think probably very, very few of them are directly on the Fed payroll.
But I think a lot of them are informants, associates, hangers-on.
And more importantly, it's basically just a big honey trap to get people in.
Right, yeah, for another Charlottesville or something.
Well, that's what they want, ideally.
What they ideally want is another Jan 6, although that's starting to fall apart.
Basically an excuse as to, you know, why they could ramp up the controls, maybe even cancel the election or whatever it is.
Absolutely.
Let's go to the next one.
Just a quick one.
The thing is, as well, a lot of people say, well, hang on, I'm, you know, a lot of like very The people online that he's trying to appeal to will say, well, I kind of agree with what he's saying, and that is the point.
That's the point.
It's literally the chat GPT speech.
What do the Nazis online think?
Write me a speech that will appeal to them.
You could literally do it yourself right now.
And that's the reason that he's saying these things in this way.
And again, a very, very, very polished speech there.
He's obviously practiced that.
That is not spontaneous.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely thinks that he's the leader of a movement.
I mean, he might just be some patsy who's lined up and is just all of a sudden surprised to find all these guys lining up behind him.
What I bet is that the guys with the masks may well be non-Feds, The guy at the front, just like Satan himself leading the other one, they've got their faces on display, which means they are protected by the power.
Because otherwise, the FBI would be able to find them.
And that means that this person will probably give them like a new identity or something like that.
Well, I suspect it's probably the other way around, that him and a handful of the other ones are just deluded fools.
And it's the guys in masks who are urging him, do this, do that.
I reckon the guys at the front, because they are brave enough not to wear the mask.
I mean, if it was anyone else, the internet would find exactly who they are.
I've got a bit of that.
So DC Drano here, he says there's two types of people who still wear masks, leftists and feds.
ends.
I mean, it's the same thing, really.
But, yeah, I mean, it's a honeypot for number one.
So we can dispute as to what proportion of them are actually on the federal payroll.
I think it's probably a reasonably small, a lot of these are, there'll be dupes, there'll be informants.
I mean, it could be that over half of them are associated with the Fed some way or another.
Just a quick thing, did they arrive in cars and then go on the train?
Oh, different.
Might have been different protests.
Might have been different protests.
Because I imagine it's quite hard to drive into, you know, central New York.
I don't know, there was a guy who rammed the barrier, didn't he?
And then he disappeared.
Yes.
But I mean, you compare the energy of these guys to something like the Proud Boys.
You know, they never wore masks.
These guys are trying too hard to draw attention to themselves at all or disturb the public.
I bet if you join the Proud Boys and you try to take a selfie of yourself with another Proud Boy, there would be a single one of them be like, yeah, sure.
But you try joining one of these groups and taking a selfie.
of the faces of any of these guys.
And, uh, yeah, that's, that's going to be right.
Uh, actually some guy was unmasked.
Just a quick thing.
That's, that's another great point because you never see like unstaged footage of these groups as well.
Do you?
Right.
Well, we have got a little bit of that.
Well, but a little bit of that coming up.
Yes.
But generally, when there's like, you know, a sort of, you know, the Proud Boys March or something, there's loads of media.
There's lots of different actions.
You are exactly, you know, you are right.
Like this is all very... Choreographed.
Yeah.
Choreographed.
And like, like you were saying, like a, like a movie or something.
Nobody's around them at all.
Like you would think there would at least be like watching members of the public.
It's like they cordoned off the whole area around them.
It's like, yes, do right guys.
We've got to get it for the cameras.
It feels very artificial.
And like hangers on as well.
People who are not as committed to the cause as these people but still are interested and want to tag after them.
Where are they?
So actually one guy did get his mask taken off.
Oh really?
And imagine who it was.
It turned out that it was a fourth year political science major from a very liberal university who was on a career pathway to joining the Feds.
Wow.
Who could have imagined?
So he's an ultra left winger and yet he decided to join Patriot Front.
Wow.
And he's probably, I mean, he's a fourth year student, so he's probably well into his conversations with the feds.
You know, they're like, we'll pay for your education.
Yeah.
Well, not now.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's not getting hired now because he let them take the mask off.
But, um, look at the fear on his face as well.
Yeah.
Cause he knows, he knows it's over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's unfortunate, isn't it?
Right.
Um, I love the way that we unmasked one of them.
Oh yeah.
Who was he?
A fed.
I'm deleting the video.
No, you're not going to touch my phone.
You're not taking a video of us.
I recognize you.
Yeah, I know you do.
I'm deleting the video.
So that was...
You're video-saving us?
That's not acceptable.
So basically some dude recognized one of them, recognized it was a fed, and tried to film him, and he got very uppity about that.
So there's at least two suspicious characters in all of this.
Now, I did check with the ADL, of course, as a trusted source, to find out a little bit about this Patriot Front.
According to the ADL, this group generates 82% of all reported hate incidents in America.
Wow.
That's a strong commitment to antisemitism.
Yes, 82% so you know they are they are quite prolific actually they you know basically what they're saying was is if this thread front or whatever it is you know didn't exist um there'd be 18% of the quantity of far-right yes actions with yeah yes quite um now apparently they they are responsible for uh was it 3,992 hate incidents Uh, that occur in every state.
Right.
Because, I mean, the U.S.
government is absolutely committed to the idea that, uh, white supremacy is the biggest threat to America.
It's the same here as well.
Um, and to prove it, they've got an organization that is delivering 4,000 incidents a year.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, you're right then, aren't you?
So, yeah, good, good, good job.
Um, this is their flag.
Ah, really?
It's got, um... A face is on it?
Yes.
That's how you know they're fascists, you know.
These American patriots are so patriotic they've got an Italian fascist symbol.
Yeah, they couldn't help themselves.
That's a bit on the nose, isn't it?
We just really want you to know that we're fascists, they say.
Because people who absolutely love apple pie and the Constitution, all they can really think about is Italian fascism.
Where's Antifa?
Like, they're literally... Yes.
Anyway.
Well, you never see them in the same place, do you?
No.
Right, exactly, yeah.
It's a bit like He-Man and Prince Adam, isn't it?
But anyway...
You say we don't have any unscripted moments of them.
We did get an unscripted moment.
Oh, this looks very unscripted, doesn't it?
Where we actually got to see what these people are like behind the scenes.
And they absolutely accidentally did this and then published it.
Accidentally.
Anyway, should we click into this one?
Go on.
Life.
Liberty.
Victory.
Life.
Liberty.
Victory.
Want to take it out?
Damn son, that might be a cut.
That's a good take right there.
Seek fucking high, let's fucking go.
I can say that now that it's over.
I want to have my finger up my... Notice how you don't see any of their faces.
Yep.
Because if I was wearing one of those stupid face masks, the first thing I'd want to do is get it off my face.
Rip it off, yeah.
But they, oh, they take off their hats, and one of them takes off his glasses, and then they all go off the screen.
Amazing.
But a couple of quick Sig Heils for the camera before they go off.
So, I mean, I've got to come back to the key question in all of this.
Why would the feds run an operation like that?
Why?
Yeah, why?
Qui bono?
Who benefits?
I actually have to answer.
Right.
You can only LARP for so long until you realize, hang on, maybe I'm enjoying this.
Maybe they're enjoying the brotherliness.
Maybe the Fed has actually radicalized itself into becoming a bunch of Nazis.
It's like, oh, we've got to go get LARPers and Nazis today.
Great.
Okay.
Looking forward to marching and chanting together.
That'll be fun.
Because everyone likes, you know, group activities.
So maybe they're actually radicalizing.
Yeah, look, I mean, he's making good points in this chat GPT speech, isn't he?
All I'm saying is, who radicalised you?
Chatty BT?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, they radicalised themselves.
I'm just saying, maybe the Fed needs to be investigated for Nazism.
Yeah, the Feds absolutely do need to be investigated.
I'll just round off on this cartoon for those who are watching.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Over to you, Karl.
So.
There's a phrase by Machiavelli, which I think is fantastic.
A wise man does at once what a fool does finally.
I like so much we put it on our merch.
So go over to our store, shop.lizzies.com, buy some, support us, help keep the lights on, right?
It's obviously been demonetized, so we need your help.
But I like this phrase.
There are lots and lots of versions of it as well.
It's not just Machiavelli who has come to this position, but I like Machiavelli because he's unfairly maligned as some sort of evil man.
But in fact, he was just a realistic patriot who was like, look, we have to be real about what's going on.
And this could be applied to almost anything, but I think it's being learned that actually it also applies to multiculturalism.
So it turns out there are lots of people who actually don't really approve of the West.
And then they moved here.
Now that you might think is mildly counterintuitive.
And so the wise man would have done at once what the fool eventually does.
The wise man says, I'm not going to go somewhere I don't want to be.
I'm going to stay where I am.
The fool finally says, I don't think I want to stay here anymore.
I'm going to leave.
Because I've heard on very good authority.
The UK is racist.
It's insanely racist.
Very good authority, yeah.
Well, he's just the highest authority.
We have others.
But yeah, no, 100% definitely racist, Stormzy pointed out in 2019.
That's a shame.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, like I say, going back, well, what would the wise man do if he was like, no, this is a racist country?
Well, the wise man would take action on that.
Yes.
The fool will finally take action on that because necessity will force his hand.
But, you know, absolutely, definitely, 100% racist.
I mean, he literally complains about Boris Johnson using the word Piccaninnies and watermelon smiles from his mansion.
And so... Because a man like that could never make it in this country.
Well, that's the point, you know, condemned to being a nobody in society and never owning anything, apart from a stab vest made by Banksy.
But anyway, As Raven Smith here points out, which is a wonderful name, such a goth name as Raven Smith, goth English girl.
Britain is racist.
There, I said it.
Good point.
No one was saying it before.
Thank God someone finally said it.
I mean, I've never heard anyone even make that allegation before today.
Apart from Stormzy.
Yes.
He made his allegation in 2019.
Raven has made hers in 2021.
Yeah, she's a...
In Vogue I will write, Stormzy has a point.
She does say, I wanted to soften the blow of this statement to maybe say that Britain has a problem with race or there's ongoing racial tension that needs our attention or some people who like football also post racist tweets.
Lots of those happen to be footballers, as we're seeing now.
But to shy away from that fact gets us nowhere.
Britain is racist and nobody in Britain wants to hear this.
It seems to be Britain's biggest industry in this.
It's remarkable.
Exactly, yeah.
They want to turn us into the United States, I think, don't they?
They absolutely...
Rifting and, you know, these, you know, skin intellectuals and whatnot.
She says, if I'm honest, I don't particularly want to say it.
I'm trying to stay accountable for my own actions and privileges within systemic British racism.
But this country that I love is also racist.
I'm not anti-Britain.
I'm anti the racist system at Foster's.
See, even the anti-racists are racists and love racist Britain.
You've got to understand the racism in Britain.
Literally everywhere.
You breathe, look.
Even the people who are advocating against racism love racist Britain.
I had an egg mayonnaise sandwich at lunchtime and I had to stop halfway through and just think to myself, God, this is so racist.
You still ate it though, didn't you?
Well, I enjoyed it slightly better.
So, and of course, all of our greatest heroes are racist.
I mean, you know, Winston Churchill.
The man of the 20th century for Britain.
To be fair, he probably was.
Well, yeah!
I mean, that's the BBC's number one issue with him.
Yeah.
But no less so than Clement Attlee would have been at the time.
That's true, but you're just trying to make excuses now, right?
I'm not making excuses.
I'm picking them up.
No, no, everyone was like, no, that's a good point.
Everyone was and still is racist.
This is what we are establishing from the BBC.
Their number one position problem with him is views on race.
Of course, Winston Churchill scholars will say something like, Churchill certainly believed in racial hierarchies and eugenics.
In Churchill's view, white Protestant Christians were at the top, above white Catholics, while Indians were higher than Africans.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
He's got it all mapped out.
Right.
Mildly problematic.
I agree that Britain's literally greatest hero of the 20th century is a racist.
Yep.
Good point.
The civil servants, of course, know that everything is institutionally racist.
A training video from the civil service, the Department of Leveling Up, so something created by Boris.
It's not like this was instituted by Tony Blair or something, right?
Said that white staff should be aware of their privilege and instead be allies of ethnic minorities.
Act as cheerleaders by standing up for ethnic minorities and shifting the spotlight to a person of color.
The video on allyship has caused concerns with one government source telling the paper that the civil servants are being brainwashed against racism.
That's how racist they are.
If you oppose racism in the civil service, you're being brainwashed.
You have to wonder why the civil service is such a den of pure racism, don't you?
For the same reason the rest of the country is.
Oh, I see.
It's just congenitally racist.
Right, I see.
You have to understand, Britain, racism equals identical.
It's just the same.
Right.
And so this is why, as you can see, Stop Hate UK... It's not good.
It's not good.
109,000 racially motivated hate crimes, according to the home office.
Now, well, racially aggregated offenses.
So that doesn't mean violence, right?
But what that does mean are people posting things online in 21, 2021, 2022.
So home office.
So these are tweets, are they?
The majority of them will be.
But that is an increase.
of tweets, are they?
Only 109,000.
The majority of them will be, yeah.
But that is an increase.
Only 109,000?
That is an increase of 19%.
Right, okay.
So, but the thing is, you've got to remember, how many times do fish tweet about water?
So you don't need to tweet about water if you're a fish.
Oh, I see what you mean, yes.
Swimming in it.
So the absence of the racist tweets is proof therein that you are so racist that you don't even feel the need to make the racist point.
Got it.
Embedded within us.
It's literally in the DNA.
This is mainly wrong thinking, thought crime and other such heinous actions.
Exactly.
The anti-racists have got their work cut out for them.
And of course, racism in Britain is a complicated issue.
It's not just black and white, because of course we're racist against the Irish.
We're racist against gypsy travelers.
We're racist against, well, everyone.
It's a long list.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, it's a genuine commitment, right?
And so they say, you know, we all know that we live in a racist society.
Anyone who denies this is deluded and complicit with racism.
So you were complicit with racism just earlier.
Well, Clement Attlee is.
Yeah, he was racist as well, as was Winston Churchill, as was every other British person up until this point.
Correct.
You've got it.
You're judging historical figures by today's standards.
It's not going to, you know, you're going to have these issues with any person's history or any country, any cult.
But the thing is, by today's standard, you're also a racist.
Right.
Yeah.
You got me.
You know, a racist is saying he's a racist.
Okay.
Any racial abuse against any individual is morally abhorrent and civil society is in moral duty to oppose prejudice.
We should try to get the number of people who experience racism as close to zero as we possibly can.
Black Caribbean people, for instance, are more likely than Black African people to say they've experienced racism.
Nearly 50% of Black Caribbean people, but 30% of Black African people.
So this is, see, Winston Churchill's racial hierarchy still lives.
We are less racist to the black Africans, but to the black Caribbeans, even though, I mean, I'm not sure I could point them out of the lineup.
Somehow they're substantively different.
So when I lived in London, I did see occasional very overt racist slanging matches.
Really?
And they were always between black Africans and black Caribbeans.
Oh really?
And I can't remember, but they had a term.
It's not the N word.
It's like the black Africans have a term for the Caribbeans and the Caribbeans have a term for the African.
I can't remember what it is now.
Well, they get really nasty to each other.
Sometimes you'll notice that the framing of this 50% of black Caribbean people have experienced racism.
Didn't say from white people.
Ah, exactly.
Yeah.
Didn't say what it said is they just experienced racism.
And I believe it because of course, if everyone knows that Britain is a racist country and surely the racist from Africa would come here.
Hang on, I'm a racist.
I want to go to a racist country.
Look at the most racist country.
Oh, look, it's Britain!
Like, look at Winston Churchill.
Their hero is a massive racist.
So I've got to go to that country, right?
Makes sense.
Don't think it through too hard, right?
And so when surveyed, the Brits will say, well, we're not racist.
And in fact, this is a great list, right?
So the Iranians are apparently the most openly racist.
I can believe it.
Russians were 32% of self-avowed racists.
Japan, 30% racist.
China's only 26%, which I find surprising.
The Greeks are as racist as the Chinese.
More than 26% of Chinese people are racist.
Well, remember of the selection bias.
The racists from China are like, I need a more racist country.
So they've come here.
I mean, you've travelled around Asia, haven't you, Justin?
Yes, quite a bit, yeah.
I mean, actually, I've lived in Japan and South Korea.
Oh, South Korea, they are just effortlessly racist.
Yeah, it's a funny list, actually.
I mean, all those are quite homogenous, obviously.
The East Asian ones are, but Russia's quite high.
But let's keep going down.
So you can see there Nigeria at 13%.
Right.
France at 10%.
There are 220 million Nigerians, which means there are probably about 30 million open racists in Nigeria.
And so now suddenly, If the open racists in Nigeria are like, I need a racist country to move to, Nigeria is only 13% racist.
Well, I've heard that Britain's really, really racist.
And suddenly 50% of black Caribbeans have been racially abused by unknown peoples.
So I'm just saying, that's a lot of racists.
Like that's three times as many racists.
I don't think you're necessarily far off the mark here, actually.
There are three times as many racists in Nigeria than there are Scottish people on the earth.
Oh, good God.
Right?
Good point.
Yeah.
Like self-abound racists.
France is 10%, which is impressive.
I mean, they are beating us because we're only at 5%.
It's sort of a shame there's not like...
We need to do better.
We need more.
Rookie numbers.
But it's sort of a shame there's not a lot of racists.
Like, I'm going to do my best.
Bring more of them in, maybe.
If only there was some sort of annual World Cup of racism and each country could enter their own team.
I mean, look, this is all just really ridiculous being serious or secondary.
If the UK is as racist as these people make out, why do we get 1.2?
Why do 1.2 million people want to come here?
It's totally racist.
Yeah, it's just totally counter intuitive, really.
It's that they've got to really, you know, I mean, look at that.
9% of Canada and Australia are racists.
That's another 10 million people or so.
8% of the United States are racist.
There are a lot of racists out there, actually.
Millions and millions of racists.
But yeah, we're on 5%.
But the thing is, this, of course, is self-reporting.
And most British people, swimming in racism, don't even realize that they're racist.
They're like, oh no, I'm not a racist.
So actually, of course, this is going to be far, far higher.
And so this leads black people in the UK to be living in fear of racism, according to the UN.
And if there's one thing I respect more than anything, it's an expert at the UN.
I tried to say that with a straight face.
Black people in the UK are living in fear due to structural, institutional and systemic racism, according to the UN Working Group.
They don't mention the 30 million Nigerian racists that we let into the country.
The expert who spent 10 days traveling across the UK, a bit of 10 days, they know.
They're an expert, yeah.
They know.
They have warned that people of African descent continue to encounter racism.
Again, African descent, not people from Africa.
Because we're recruiting as many Nigerian racists as we can get in the country.
I mean, they're literally in the Conservative Party.
Yes.
Literally going to save the country.
But the people of African descent encountered racial discrimination and erosion of their fundamental right.
It also highlighted trauma felt by people who are suffering racial discrimination, particularly in the criminal justice system.
Dominique Day, a human rights expert for the group, said what we found overwhelmingly was a culture of fear, a culture of denial, where the conversations about racism usually involved gaslighting and the delegitimization of very credible So, I think Britain is an irredeemably racist country.
It attracts international racists, who I believe, although I don't have proof of this, make up the overwhelming bulk of the 1.2 million immigrants who come in, and there's only one thing to do.
Well, I mean, you convinced me that Britain is past saving.
Well, exactly.
Britain is just way past saving if you are a noble anti-racist.
So, the wise man does at once what the fool does finally.
And so, they leave.
I took my children to the Caribbean to live free from British racism and I've never looked back.
Great point.
Why wouldn't the wise lady in this case do exactly that?
What would be the argument to not?
I mean, 30 million Nigerian racists are on their way.
This needs promoting, this story.
Well, that's why I'm doing this segment.
Because I think she's making a great point.
I think that's very clever.
What is the possible objection?
She says my parents arrived to the UK from Granada in the 1960s and did a pretty good job of making me the right kind of immigrant.
She did well at school, attended universities and was writing for national papers in her teens.
Yet somewhere along the way the wheels fell off.
I became homeless after separating from my children's father.
I returned to my parents' house where I slept in the same blow-up camping mattress I'd used as a teenager trekking around Europe.
I've gone from writing for Rolling Stone and hanging out with rock stars to working minimum wage jobs and having to account for how many times I needed to pee during my shift.
Right.
That's interesting.
Rolling Stone have had cutbacks.
But anyway, she says, as I hurtled towards my 40s as a single mother, relying on benefits to support my three kids, I did not feel like this was my life's assignment.
And if I couldn't make it work in the UK, what chance did my children have in a country in which on every indicator from education to employment, health to housing, the odds of success as black citizens were clearly stacked against them.
Exactly Stormzy's point.
I've got to say, if I was running the BBC, I'd be tempted to make like a Jamaican version of Neighbours that made it look fantastic and just have stories like this every single week.
This is a true story from her.
This is her lived experience, and I take it as wrote.
She says, so I made the decision to quit the UK, return to Granada, the island my paternal and maternal grandparents left in the 1950s, before sending for their offspring a decade later.
The irony did not escape me.
My motivation was to raise my children in an environment where they could feel that freedom is their birthright.
Because remember, Britain, the place of oppression, tyranny, anti-Magna Carta.
Granada?
Yes.
An ex-slave colony?
The place of liberty?
Well, I've never been, but I'm sure it's a complete utopia.
I don't doubt that, it's beautiful.
I don't doubt that, it's amazing.
A form of colony, isn't it?
Yes.
The Empire.
Sounds great, I think you've got the right idea.
So, this is a very interesting description of Granada, though.
So when they had to wait for the flight because of COVID, don't know why, the flights were still going.
Maybe Granada was like, okay, no flights, but Britain still brought in literally a million immigrants a year, 500, 700,000 or something a year.
So our flights are still working because we're racist and we're trying to trap these people in our country.
But Granada was like, no, no, no, you know, COVID.
But when we finally arrived, I was filled with a feeling of overwhelming relief and joy that I didn't have to catch a flight back.
Here, my seven and eight-year-old girls get woken up by the neighbors' kids knocking on our front door.
They go off exploring for hours on end, running in and out of the adjacent houses.
Kids going missing isn't something we worry about on an island of 126,000 people.
Remarkable.
In the UK, it felt unsafe for them to even go to the corner shop on their own.
And whenever we visited our local park, we had to walk past the memorial to an 18 year old who was stabbed to death in a road rage incident.
It's something like a core memory for my girls before the age of five.
Well, to be fair, there was a time when you could let your kids out in this country.
Well, I was going to say us being of a relatively similar age.
Yes.
Well, yeah, it was exactly like that.
But but it's the racism that caused it to not be the way it is.
Yes.
And so she says it has been reassuring to meet other black people in the process who are in this process who are also in search of alternative ways of living.
Together with collective families from across the globe, we're in the process of buying back part of the former estate in the rural north of the island.
By forming a community land trust, we can live with others in alignment with nature and remove from the pressures of modernity and a fraction of the cost of living in the global north.
That's a great advert.
Wonderful.
Send me a postcard.
Honestly, I'm tempted to go myself.
I mean, Granada's not racist, is it?
Right?
I mean, if I go there, I'm not going to be racially profiled because of my skin color, because I've been told that it's not.
So, I mean, that sounds great.
And I bet the weather's wonderful, right?
Nice little island where everything's safe.
Get away from the pressures of modernity.
This article should be every TV advert for the next 10 years.
It hasn't all been plain sailing, though, because her 13-year-old son has decided to actually return to the racist UK to live with his father.
He missed his friends and family, and he missed the fact that having access to simple things like Thai food or consistently working cash machines...
Lavatories.
Yeah, has been difficult for us too.
But does she miss the UK?
No, not at all.
In fact, when I return now, I wonder how I managed to live there for so long.
Dystopian, racist hellscape.
Good for her.
Well done, that lady.
Yeah, absolutely well done.
And so this is becoming a bit of a trend that is called Blackxit, which is the black exit.
Reasons you should live in Africa.
Let's watch this.
Just a beautiful and encouraging experience.
Two, safety.
Many of the countries in Africa, I'm in Tanzania, are significantly safer than the United States when you check the rankings and you never have to worry about any sort of racist anti-black violence against you.
Three, challenging white supremacy.
It is a game changer when you can show that it is possible to thrive in the world outside of westernized systems.
Four, learning from African perspectives and experiences.
So much of what we see, even those of us who call ourselves very pro-Black, are still very westernized when we're from the Western world.
When you move to Africa, you get to actually learn the indigenous ways of being from the continent.
And five, learning to love, love, love yourself as a Black person in deeper and more powerful ways.
So much of what we get, again, living in the West, we're brainwashed to believe that blackness is less than and that we have to fight to show and prove our value and worth.
When you are in Africa, it is just evidence and it is just a normal part of living life.
Amazing and peaceful to the spirit.
Look, I acknowledge that it is not easy for everybody and the finances and all the details, logistics.
Look, I know, I get it.
But for those of you who are able to dream, to be able to build the game plan, figure out new ways of being, I encourage you, put it on your list to at least visits.
Sense of belonging.
It is amazing being in a place where everybody looks like you.
kind of miss that is sense of belonging.
It is amazing being in a place where everybody looks like you.
I mean, that is just, that's his number one reason.
Being in a place where everyone looks like you.
Well, I guess you're not getting exposed to racism.
And so you get things like this where it's, you know, more black Brits see a future away, a better future away from Britain.
Like, yeah, they probably do.
I mean, the British economy is crazy.
It's insane how much the house prices cost.
It's insane how little justice we actually find in this country.
I mean, 95% of burglaries go uninvestigated.
Britain is absolutely cratering at the moment.
They're making great points.
And Barbara Blake Hanna, who was born and raised in Jamaica, moved to England.
She's like, look, what we need to do is essentially a kind of reverse Windrush generation.
She literally says, let's do a Windrush in reverse and help make our paradise greater.
And to be honest with you, I'm thinking about going with them myself.
She's like, yeah, no, great point.
We'll tag along with them.
Yeah, we'll come with you now.
We'll do the reverse colonization in reverse.
Is that how the song goes or the poem goes?
We'll figure this out with you, I think.
Yeah, it's interesting.
if that's how they feel about the West, that chap in the video, presumably he's American.
He is.
And they're honest in their convictions.
And, you know, you know, that's good for them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So solace.
And, and, um, I mean, just great points made all round by everyone involved.
I think, uh, I hope they do well and Godspeed, basically.
Good news segment, Carl.
Well done.
Thank you.
Let's go on to talking about the state of the UK.
Why might they want to leave?
Yeah, it leads on nicely, doesn't it?
So the UK economy has a lot of problems.
It really is struggling.
The depth and the scale of the problems are pretty serious when you start factoring in things like investment, low growth.
The skills gap, there's quite a lot to unpack.
The debt, the fact that middle-class Britons haven't seen a real wage increase since 2008, a decade and a half, and things are starting to catch up with us.
And yeah, as you can see the date at the top, just at the end of November, I did one article quickly became two articles.
Particularly my YouTube algorithm was filled with all these videos about the economic impending economic doom of the uk they're all pretty similar but um yeah i left a lot on the cutting board as well could have could have gone to a part three actually but um yeah it's you've broken down the key sort of financial issues with uh with the state of the
Looking at things like low growth, investment, debt, rising interest rates, obviously the cost of living crisis, part two looked at the housing crisis we have, and then how all of this is rebounding on public services.
We've got crumbling schools, we've got a failing health service, arguably even non-existent.
Sorry to interrupt, but that is a staggering increase in public sector debt, isn't it?
Yes, yeah, that's right.
Jesus Christ!
After 2008, because of the bailouts, we increased significantly, but it's just, it's just gone up and up.
I mean, to be fair, you could say the same thing for most G20 countries, Western Europe, the debt seemingly only goes one way, but it's pretty bad.
It's particularly bad for the UK.
So the thing I muse on this is, Is the Western world heading to financial collapse, or did the financial collapse happen in 2008 and the body just hasn't hit the floor yet?
That's a good question.
I mean, I don't want to be a do-merger, but it keeps getting worse.
We like to think of ourselves as reality merchants.
What's the reality of it?
I mean, I'm no economist, just to be very, very clear.
I don't know anything about the economy and I can't count, but that looks bad.
Yeah, it is bad.
I mean, the deficits are, how do I say this, OK as long as the interest rate we pay on our debts is manageable.
But the problem is, of course, recently, the last 18 months, two years, interest rates have gone up, the cost of borrowing goes up, the cost of servicing our existing debt has obviously increased, and we can't simply kick the can down the road by borrowing more money.
That's not That can is getting heavier and heavier and harder to kick.
So just as a quick thing, who do we owe this money to?
Well, a lot is owned by the Bank of England, some by foreign investors.
It's a bit complex.
I think about 25% of our debt is inflation linked, if I'm not mistaken.
Now that's a problem because we're in a period of high inflation, so that's also a big structural problem.
But even though a lot is owned by the Bank of England, there's only so many units of pound sterling and our version of the bond, the guilt that international markets can absorb, really.
And because of all the instability, we've had the merry-go-round at number 10.
We've had, you know, Brexit.
We've had all sorts of things, referendums, you know, that's also causing, that's also a big cause.
But certainly the 2008 crisis and our response to it is, broadly speaking, where it all began.
There was a time where, you know, China and the likes would have been buying the debt, but increasingly they're just not that interested in Western debt anymore.
Is it because they think we're not going to pay it back?
Notions like that, yes.
I don't know exactly what their reasons were.
They didn't share them, but they've decided to buy gold instead.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, good investment.
The problem is, it's a global crisis, isn't it?
Lots of countries have problems with inflation and things, and some of these countries with the Russia-Ukraine war leading to commodity prices, particularly oil and gas going up in price, they're saying, sorry, we can't buy your Pound sterling bonds, your euro bonds, we need to get our own house in order.
Now we're up a creek because the traditional international investors are looking elsewhere.
If you zoom out, the dollar is rising in value.
That's a problem for a lot of countries as well.
Pound sterling is a bit further down the list, isn't it?
Let's be honest.
Yes.
So if you're going to hold a foreign currency in Asia, you might as well go for the dollar.
I mean, not a lot of reason to hold the pound.
But this is the debt and the deficit.
This isn't the complete economic picture and certainly not the good.
There are other problems we have.
Of course, we see the daily basis.
Anything else you want me to scroll down to?
Yeah, if we go down, I mean, I think growth is, I started with growth because, you know, that determined so much and it's been at this level now for basically about two calendar years.
So growth in the region of less than a one percentile, one percentage point.
So 1.2 million racists from Nigeria is less than 1% growth.
James O'Brien said that the immigration caused the growth, didn't he?
He did, he did.
Where's the growth then?
Well, just imagine how much further down this would be.
Oh, I see, right, yes.
It would be negative.
So as some people say, yeah, it's even worse without immigration.
There we go, there we go, right.
But the problem is we're not growing, but our population is growing lightly.
Because 60% is because of mass immigration and their dependents that they bring in and their offspring.
So we've got a stagnant economy, a growing population, so that means more scarcity, less goods and services.
What you've got here is stagnant headline growth.
But of course, if the population is growing, you've actually got declining GDP per capita.
Exactly.
I was going to say, I can't count, so you're going to have to walk me through this.
But if there's X amount of one resource and then Y amount of another, and the Y grows and these have to be shared, then that surely means the people in that category get less of what has to be shared among them.
And that's the problem.
Yeah, I mean, the x-axis only goes up to 2%.
So, you know, it's... Actually, that's a really good point.
So the axis only goes up to 2%, which we don't get anywhere nearby.
No, no, it's recommended.
So this is the growth of the economy.
The other thing to bear in mind is the amount of debt... Is it fair to characterize this as the growth of the economy?
This is a snapshot of the economy!
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, I'm just being... But the total economy is about the same size as amount of debt.
We've got 100% debt-to-GDP ratio.
Yeah, that's right, yeah.
And the debt is rising.
Like you said, a lot of it is in debtless length, but it's rising at, you know, it's strata, but it's going to be around about 4% a year.
So the debt is rising at 4% a year.
It's the same size as the economy, and the economy is stagnating.
So what you're saying is we should cash out now?
No, what I'm saying is that we're in a debt spiral.
Yes.
The debt is continuing to grow and it's just going to eat everything.
Effectively, we kind of are in a recession from that perspective because the debt interest repayments are obviously going to send us into the minus, aren't they?
Because this doesn't factor in that, this is just the growth.
The only line item bigger than what we pay on the interest is the NHS.
Yeah, that's right.
And even then it's close.
Of course it's the NHS, of course it is.
So, yes, I actually look at the debt-to-GDP ratio below that, but obviously inflation, okay, it's better in that it's slower, but as you point out, Dan, that just means that prices are rising slightly slower, slightly less.
Now, to be fair, the end of 2022, it was, you know, your double-digit levels, it's really bad.
And bear in mind that these, well not only are these incredibly bad double digit levels of inflation, like 11% inflation a year.
Right now, if you were, if you're an investor and you invested your money at 11% per year, you could be a, you could be a bus driver and you retire very rich indeed.
So again, I'm not an economist.
This compound, right?
Yes.
Because for it to say it was 11% one year, for it to return to the previous price that it was, it would have to be negative 11%.
The next year.
So what we are seeing is a continual rise.
And so when they say, oh, inflation is down to 4.6%, yes, that's on top of the, well, I mean, that must be like 100% inflation.
If inflation is down to 4.6%, it's growing at 4.6% on top of the sum of all of that.
So the sum of all that looks like it's probably like 105% or 110%, something like that.
So, we need to go into the negative to get back to where we were before this crisis started.
But we've always got a never-ending cost of living crisis here, haven't we?
It was before Russia, Ukraine, and arguably, if you want to talk about house prices, it was before Covid.
So really, there's no long-term plan for this.
I'll tell you what, that commune in Granada is looking appealing.
Just saying!
Yeah, quite good.
I mean over here we produce, well apparently, racism and nothing and little else.
Our main export.
Yeah, but in Russia they've got oil reserves, they've got commodities, they've got vast fields of wheat.
We know over here we're actively encouraging farmers to get out of the business.
Yeah, it's crazy.
We're either going to regulate them out of the business or we're going to incentivize them out.
But for some reason the British government is desperate to strip out all the agriculture, which is like the one I always say there's two key foundations of any economy.
It's agriculture and energy.
You can change anything else around, but you need agriculture and energy.
And what else are they doing on energy?
Oh, well, they're basically building new power cables over the channel.
So we can get French nuclear power?
Yes.
Reliance on the French.
Yeah.
In 2011, the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition were asked if they're going to build nuclear power plants.
And this is a quote, I think it's from Nick Clegg.
He said, no, it's going to take too long.
It won't be done for 10 years.
Well, 10 years later, Would it be nice to have had all those nuclear power plants?
Yes, it would have, yeah.
Yes.
Now, yes, given where we are now, nuclear power is looking much more attractive.
It was looking like that all the time, like from the very conception of nuclear power, it was always looking like that.
No, you're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interest rates.
I mean, yeah, obviously they've climbed and climbed.
So, you know, as they go up, so do our debt service repayments, which as Dan said, is now like second on the list of government expenditures.
So the first graph with the debt, kind of the explosion of government debt means that, you know, when interest rates go up, the cost of servicing that debt becomes So, unlike the GDP growth chart, this one doesn't stop at 2%, this one goes up to 6%.
Yes, this one, yeah.
And the UK government just cannot afford two, let alone six.
That's because this is measuring bad things.
The good thing stops at 2%, the bad thing stops at 6%.
And also it didn't get anywhere near that 2% as well, so there was also that.
The problem is the Bank of England haven't set a date for when interest rates are going to be capped, which is an econ-speak for when they're going to stop.
They're saying it could be the first half of this year, but then there's always a three-month lag anyway.
So my theory is that it will be before Q3.
So my theory that it will be before Q3 is a simple reason that the US will lead it and they need a feel-good feeling in the economy before the election.
So tell me about capping interest rates, because I don't know how that works, I don't know why that works.
Well, yeah, interest rates will keep going, they will keep rising until the We reach an equilibrium and things start evening out.
But the problem is, is that this doesn't happen in a vacuum.
You know, the Bank of England only has so much power to exercise over monetary inflation.
These are affected by other things like commodity prices and, you know, overseas investors.
So is this something akin to sort of putting a finger in the hole in the dam and then another pshh comes out and you have to put another finger in?
Well, it's sort of a bait and switch.
I mean, really the inflation is coming from the money they printed.
But they're doing a sleight of hand and saying, oh no, it's because interest rates are too low.
I'll tell you one of the main leading indicators for interest rates, shipping costs.
So if you've got a bunch of Yemenese rebels holding up one of the main shipping lines, a leading indicator of inflation.
What's this one telling us?
Total investment?
So yeah, after debt, interest rates, cost of living, we start looking at investment.
We start looking at the skills gap and, you know, that sort of thing.
So investment is an issue in the UK since, really, since Brexit.
It's sort of flatlined and we just don't invest properly.
The problem is that UK businesses don't invest In capital machinery, technology, human resources, so training and whatnot.
And, you know, this is a big, this is a big structural problem in the economy because then this affects output.
That's why growth is low.
And then this is why people don't get wage increases and it's a self-perpetuating, self-reinforcing cycle.
So is this chart telling me that China invests 43% of everything they make back into themselves in order to grow?
Well, yeah, that's, uh, that's basically an industry and niche markets and things like that.
You see, we used to, we used to invest a lot.
We were one of the highest in Europe.
Uh, but again, I think, I think again, that sort of comes back to 2008 and then after Brexit, a lot of confidence in the UK economy dropped and we've not really picked up, uh, since then.
So, uh, yeah, these, these aren't encouraging.
Because I mean, just on a local practical basis, I mean, this business reinvests a lot into itself.
I mean, the reason we have all of this now is because from the first two years, a lot of that money was reinvested back into the business to make it better.
That's not the trend.
Yeah.
And that is, you know, obviously not what Britain as a whole is doing.
Even though places that do show strong growth, you know, China, the Indias, the Czechs, the Japanese, the Swedes, and even the French.
Even the French have got higher investment rates than we have.
Put me in charge of the ZK economy.
Oh dear.
What's this one, Justin?
Yeah, this is sort of a bit more on investment.
So we've got public sector before that we've got the private sector.
But yeah, again, as things have gotten worse, investment in public
um services has gone down now obviously people will recall the austerity period under Cameron in the wake of the the bailouts and things and it's really continued um from them because if you go back to interest rates uh back then interest rates were more manageable they were lower well lower than we have now but instead of investing in infrastructure schools instead of Tackling some of the problems with the NHS.
We cut back spending.
We've got fewer police on the streets.
We've literally got crumbling schools.
We might see that on part two.
The perforated concrete needs to be replaced in 700,000 schools and education institutions.
So a lot of these problems.
The problem is That it's all collapsing in on itself now.
So you're saying while we were borrowing billions at a low interest rate we could have used that cheap money to update the infrastructure?
Would have been a good idea.
I mean obviously as they say you know hindsight is always 20-20.
But instead The practice of borrowing money to keep the lights on in the NHS today.
So, you know, we're borrowing to consume rather than borrowing to invest.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
Now we're sort of trapped in this sort of cycle.
So here, yeah, here's where you see the trend line is pretty consistent up to the vote.
And then after that, I think investor confidence just slipped.
Obviously, even though the pound devalued, you think people might want to invest more because they're getting more for every one euro, one dollar.
But that didn't really happen otherwise.
A lot of things sort of play into it.
But I'm sure up to that 2016 mark, I think we were leading.
So my issue with this is the way Brexit was done, Oh, have you ever seen that film Blade, where he's got the half-human, half-vampire?
He's got the strengths of the vampires, but none of the weaknesses.
Yeah, we're the opposite of that.
The way we did Brexit is we kept all the weaknesses of the EU, and we didn't take on any of the strengths of being independent.
So we basically kept all of the bad things about the EU, and then did none of the things that we were now able to do.
I really think we should have just abolished corporate tax.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a whole bunch of things we could have done.
Totally undercut Ireland.
We left the EU and then basically did nothing.
So I'm not surprised that the investment rate fell after Brexit because We're trying to operate on an old model that we're no longer part of, rather than embracing something new.
Yeah, absolutely.
I talk about the tax code in part two.
Our tax code is a mess.
Corporate tax, whether it's VAT, all of it, it's definitely a big problem and we need to kind of, sort of, address that, whether we go to a flat rate or what we do.
I worked in an office once where our in-house lawyer had a copy of the tax code in his office.
And it was just the big one.
Multiple shelves.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it was one book, the UK Tax Code.
Crazy.
Yeah.
I mean, can we go to that?
I wouldn't mind talking about it.
Yeah, it's part two, it's article two, so it's the next tab along.
Actually, so that's productivity, wage, We're not very productive either, to be honest, and that's a big problem.
But of course, if you're not investing in technological upgrades, capital machinery, that's going to impact productivity.
And if your company's not as productive, you know, that's going to affect wages.
And it fell off trend in 2008.
Again, yeah.
And for some reason, we weren't very productive in 2020.
I mean, that I think is probably going to be fairly universal.
Yeah.
So I'm not too worried about that.
Yeah.
Oh, this one.
Household income.
Yeah.
So again, flat line.
Even left-leaning sources.
Even the Guardian says we haven't had a real wage increase in a decade and a half and some people say it's about £11,000 a year and bear in mind these are official numbers so actually people have had a pay cut in the last 15 years.
And as I always say, the CPI, the Consumer Price Index, the price of basic goods and services, has gone up about 47.5% in that time.
So you can see we're getting hit from both ends, really.
We're getting hit from both ends, really.
So yeah, wage growth is pretty low.
And a lot of people, I think, on the ground level, a lot of people in tech and things, and they're like, you know, British companies just don't, you know, they don't pay as much, you know, you're underpaid, you're overworked.
They get better offers from, you know, overseas and things.
And, you know, that's, that's also... I don't really mind when we're falling behind Like Central Europe because of course they're a bit more liberated than we are on getting on and doing things and they've taken on less of the ridiculous policies than us.
But I really don't like seeing that we're behind France in all of these Charles.
Yeah.
That bothers me.
Behind them on both racism and wage growth.
Yes, but of course wage growth you've got to talk about again mass immigration because that's putting downward pressure on wages as well and you know so yeah debt interest repayments are second.
Oh that's what I was saying about the NHS.
It's just insane.
So I think the operational budget of the NHS is something like $137 billion.
Yeah.
It's really, really close at this point.
I think housing benefit is third.
That's how much we pay.
Sorry, the UK debt interest payments are almost one NHS per year.
Yes.
God damn.
Yeah, almost.
Yeah.
$123 billion just being flushed down.
This is why we don't have the MPI.
Part 2.
So this is a few more housing, mortgages, the tax code.
Let's talk about the taxes then.
I hate taxes.
Go up.
There's actually a couple of funny anecdotes.
Um, obviously there's issues to do with council tax is one thing.
VAT is kind of a little bit all over the place.
Um, with, uh, goods being priced differently.
There's our corporate tax rate, which is currently 25%, which is just too high.
It's just way too high.
And so many countries have it lower and companies.
So on this, this, this drives me absolutely mental, right?
Corporate tax.
Hey, A corporation isn't a person that shouldn't pay taxes, right?
It's just a collection of people.
The people themselves should pay taxes.
Raise tax on the individual if you want that money, right?
Philosophically, it's messed up.
But secondly, strategically, we're going to lead the European Union.
Okay, well, how about we look at, say, Britain's nearest neighbor?
It's a modern first world economy, they all speak English.
What's their corporation tax?
Oh, 12.5%.
Well, they're under big pressure to raise it from the EU.
I'm talking about Ireland.
We are of course talking about Ireland, which is why if you use YouTube or whatever, their headquarters are in Ireland.
All of the American companies headquartered in Ireland and then just operate in the UK.
Yeah.
Okay.
So they're deliberately undercutting us and their economy is of course skyrocketing because of this just very small tactical thing that they've done.
And we could just be like, okay, we're going to go 6.5% Well, we could have gone to zero, I would have gone to zero.
I would have gone to zero too.
We could have done that the day after Brexit.
We could have just said we're out, corporation tax is down to zero and there would have been a queue of companies coming here.
It is insufferable.
Bringing all the jobs with them.
It is absolutely insufferable, but for some reason we're trapped in this old paradigm.
And a bit like the NHS, they don't want to address these problems because even the short term levelling up is going to lead to a fall in tax revenue.
And if you go to the first five, seven minutes of our conversation, we're looking at Article 1.
We can't afford that because we've already got unbelievable debt and deficit and whatnot.
Scroll down a bit.
I mean, VAT is quite funny.
You know, I think in 2022, I think we spent almost a million pounds on a court case deciding whether a Jaffa Cake was a biscuit with a bit of chocolate on it or a cake with chocolate on it, because that affects its VAT bracket.
And the same thing for gingerbread men with a chocolate smile.
Well, if they've got the chocolate smile, that means they need to be at 0.25%.
And it's like, I hate to say, I hate to be that person, but I'm sure we're the only country that can produce these kinds of mind-boggling.
I mean, it's all starting to sound like an Ayn Rand novel at this point.
Yeah, absolutely.
The end of the article really looks at how this is impacting on policing, law enforcement, education, healthcare infrastructure and what Martin I've got to be honest guys, at this point I just had to end the article because my head was about to explode.
I just saw what happened over COVID and just thought, yeah, I'm buying private medical insurance.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
It's almost, because it's de facto closed off to you and then you're left with private, only private options.
Something like 15% of the entire country is currently on an NHS waiting list.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's right.
That is crazy, isn't it?
It's mad.
It's absolutely mad.
How is that sustainable?
It's not, and it's not going down.
Yeah.
It's just like, okay, that's bonkers.
Fair enough.
Private healthcare premiums are going to go up in price because they're going to know that a lot of people are saying just what Dan said a minute ago and they're going to be looking at whatever, is it Bupa and other things, but then the market will demand a lot of this.
Obviously poverty, destitution, food bank usages at an all time.
and you try and measure the lost investment so it'd be an extra 31 invested into industry yeah if the trend could scroll up a little bit what was the heading for that I think that was a bit yeah that was a bit on Brexit look hands up I was for Brexit at the time I think we were sold we were sold a lie to be honest that's that's I didn't want to I disagree with that go into I don't think the Brexit the problem the problem was is that we didn't take advantage of any of the things that it offered us sure yeah sure we still could we could tomorrow oh yeah exactly
the Conservatives have got the physical power to do everything that would work in our advantage I just put a little bit on Brexit, immigration, because obviously those are quite large topics, but to sort of get a bit of perspective.
Mass immigration gets a mention?
Yeah, towards the end.
Radical Liberation had a good definition of mass immigration, which I quite like, which is mass immigration is any level of immigration that exceeds the house building of a nation.
And so what are we, so we're at... 200,000 a year.
No, it's more, no.
No, we build 200,000 houses.
Oh right, I was going to say, yeah.
So basically our immigration rates is about three times, net immigration rate about three times the level of house building.
The problem with that is that house building is based on the amount of immigration that we're having.
The reason we build 200,000 houses a year is because of the number of people coming in.
So if we had say 5,000 people coming in every year, then we wouldn't build 200,000 houses.
And a lot of the quality of these new builds are just not, they're appalling.
They're for individuals, they're not for families.
I actually did a podcast with Radical Liberation precisely on these articles and we looked at these.
This is quite good actually, this is a Screencap from a YouTuber called The Wandering Turnip.
He basically goes across towns and cities in the UK and he sort of documents the decline on the ground level, particularly with property and industry.
And we can do that in Swindon.
I noticed, yeah, I did, yeah.
People don't believe me, but like 10 years ago, Swindon was actually quite nice.
That was heaving down.
The whole country was actually, yeah.
You know, I said this to Dan in the notes, so you did a talk with Peter Whittle round about the end of the summer.
It was quite downbeat, but you know, we all are, and that's what kind of inadvertently inspired these articles, Carl, so thanks.
I appreciate the work.
But no, you see the decline in real time, you see it around you, and it's not nice, because it doesn't have to be like this.
It didn't used to be like this, but because of our traitorous elites, here we are.
We need to clear them out.
Exactly, yeah.
First of all, after Carl cheered us up with his positive news, you've gone and...
In a way, it wasn't positive news because a lot of them are like, you know, I'm actually not prepared to stick out the intrinsic racism of Britain because the economy sucks.
Yes.
Stuff is expensive.
I can't be bothered.
I'd rather go somewhere that has intermittent electricity and running water, which says a lot about our country.
Yes.
Not good, is it?
Right.
So should we have a look at some comments?
Yeah.
Well, first we'll go to the video.
Oh, yes.
This question's for Dan.
My family comes from Indonesia.
It's rich with natural resources, oil, silver, gold, jewels, hardwoods, spices, all that.
But then you compare it to a nation like Japan that has almost no natural resources.
It's quite bereft.
And Japan does much better.
And I think that the element that we don't really talk about in economics is trust to build an economy.
It's not about technology.
It's not about natural resources or manpower or whatever.
Trust is actually a very important resource.
What do you think about that?
That's a nice one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, absolutely.
Right.
Isn't it?
I mean, if you can, if you, if you trust people, then you can have property rights.
You can have contracts that people can rely on.
Um, and, and this is one of the things I found in, in business is that you have to understand when you go into business, that the way we think here is not the way they think around the rest of the world.
So over here, negotiate hard to get a contract.
Once the contract is done, basically it's set because nobody wants to go to court over it.
What I found is if you did a deal with anyone in Asia, we did a deal with an Indian billionaire, and what you find is the contract negotiations are incredibly easy.
You're like, wow, this is good.
And then you sign the contract and he just ignores it.
He just does whatever the hell he wants.
They do that a lot in Asia.
They don't have the same kind of transparent institutions that we have.
Indonesia, I've been to a couple times.
They have every commodity you can name.
They're an OPEC country.
They should be a superpower.
If they had our institutions, you know, they would be a juggernaut, but they're not.
A lot of it is because, unfortunately, because of corruption and, you know, there are other things as well, but poverty too.
Fantastic resources in Indonesia.
Yeah, absolutely.
If you took the British population, well maybe not all of it, but the British population, you swapped it with Indonesia, Within a hundred years, it would be a superpower that rivals the US easily.
They have got fantastic resources.
There's a very good book based on what this chap's comment is called Why Nations Fail.
It looks about how they don't have a transparent legal system and things like corruption, bribery and whatnot.
It's been a while since I read it, but it's a good one.
I read that.
I like the distinction between extractive and inclusive economies.
For anyone who's wondering, an inclusive economy is one that actually makes people buy into it, so they get to own land.
An extractive one is essentially the difference between Spanish America and English America.
Yeah, absolutely.
And one Asian country that goes against the grain, that has very robust institutions, Singapore.
Well, you only need to say the name and everybody perks up and you look at their growth, their standard of living.
And of course, a lot of that was inherited from the British.
Singapore also inherited a version of the NHS.
They quickly got rid of it.
Yeah, that says a lot as well.
Let's go to the next one.
Yeah, let's do the next one.
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We got one more video comment?
I've been seeing a lot of parallels between the Dune novels and the current Houthi conflict, what with NATO basically being a decrepit, crumbling empire which is ruled by a bunch of degenerates obsessed with domestic internal threats rather than combating external threats like the Fremen, or in this case, the Houthis.
who, much like the Fremen, sit on a very strategic area where they can essentially point ballistic missiles at most of our oil wells in our Middle Eastern ally countries and bring our entire economy to a halt if they feel like they're going to lose.
And that's basically what happened to do as well.
Yeah, that's a good point.
That's a great point, actually.
Mason says, Gen Xers unite.
Are you actually a Gen Xer, Justin, or are you just having a bad day?
Early millennial, yeah.
I mean, I'm right on the border, 81, so quite close with you.
I'm 79.
Cool Wizard says, you got me Carl with your little may I just distract you from your YouTube video to sell you posters from them.
They look great.
Well, thank you.
And the merch store is a great way of supporting us and you get something and it's not just posters, but like, you know, mugs and t-shirts and stuff like that.
So thank you.
Kevin says, so I've just seen that the cultural enricher who stabbed and killed three people in Nottingham last year has had his charges changed from murder to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness.
Proof that Britain is not racist if we allow this kind of BS to happen.
Well, it was a mentally ill one.
Him or the people who decided, yeah, he can come into the country and then they made no effort to deport him.
Yeah.
It was decided by empathy, perhaps, or.
Well, yes.
It's just a sacrifice.
Lord Nerovar on my section says there were literally more Feds pretending to be right-wing terrorists than actual right-wing terrorists.
JFK could not be more vindicated.
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the point.
I mean, you've got to wonder, you know, those 82% of hate incidents.
If you just took out all of the Fed-inspired ones, how much hate would there actually be in the US?
Rutherday says, why do you guys think the Feds consistently fail to adequately disguise themselves?
Because they don't understand us?
I think, because they don't understand where we're coming from and so they have to do their interpretation of what patriotic people think.
It does look like it's done by committee, doesn't it?
Yeah.
We're going to design a Nazi movement by committee.
But wasn't there...
Was it Jonathan Haidt or something like that?
There's these experiments that you can run where you ask right-wing and left-wing people what the other side thinks, and right-wing people can accurately gauge or impersonate left-wing people, but the left-wing people can't do it.
They just genuinely don't get where we're coming from at all.
They have no idea what you believe.
They don't have a frame of reference.
I mean, again, everybody's in their silos and they think, oh yeah, right-wing nationalists, that's it.
Yeah, let's put the balaclava on.
That doesn't explain why the right-wingers understand the left-wingers.
I think there's something genuinely about the way that they think that prevents them from understanding what the right thing is.
Rick Archer says that uncharismatic so-called leader of glowing front has a scraggly beard that's either fake or hurriedly grown, wears big sunglasses and a hat to hide your face, basic field ops for urban camouflage.
It did look like a fake beard.
Could be.
Yeah, when you look back at it, it does look kind of fake.
Yeah, no, no, I think you're going quite right.
Boundervan Warhawk says, uh, when I'm gone, you just find another monster.
They have to, because they have to justify their wages.
Uh, yeah, and that was apparently said by Dutch van der Lee, which I don't get the historical reference, but I'm sure that, I'm sure there's a previous bad guy.
But yeah, the FBI are always going to need a bad guy, and for a while it was, um, Yeah, can you imagine what the FBI report is?
Well, we solved all the problems, so we're just cooling, kicking back and... Yeah, chilling at the end.
We kick back our budget for next year.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
Yeah.
Right.
Do you want to do some of yours, Carl?
Yeah.
Alex Ptolemy, in fact, before we go on to mine, says, patriotic front really aren't feds.
Most far-right people you can find will tell you so.
I'm talking the actual neo-Nazis, not just dissidents.
They just look like feds because they're fit and organized.
I don't think it's a good move to do what they do, but this they're just feds thing means the right will never organize because any level of organization is seen as a fed op.
Have I ever seen a fed op?
They're not that organized.
They cover their faces not to lose their jobs.
People in prison don't have to worry.
The thing is, the unmasked ones turned out to be feds.
So, I'm just saying, I'm not sure I agree with that.
No, I think they're feds.
I think they work pretty hard.
Robert says, I work with a black Jamaican engineer who holidays in Tanzania over Christmas.
He loves it.
However, he knows, they know that he isn't from there.
He won't be settling down there.
They see him as a rich man.
And he told me that the second any of the locals think they are getting the bad end of the stick, they'll probably unalive him and take his stuff.
Jesus wouldn't surprise me.
Derek says the irony of those African countries detest those of African ancestry who were born and raised in the West because they are the ones who have the romantic notion of what Africa is and the natives are like, uh, uh, yes, that's definitely true.
Richard says third world problems, first world delusion and prices.
Stuart says, Blacksit, isn't that just a woke version of colonization?
I mean, you're literally just taking westernized people to Africa and expecting them not to start ghettoizing parts of African nations.
Give them 18 months before they're chased off with burning pitchforks.
That's a great point, actually.
I mean, that's literally what happened in Liberia.
So it's just like, ew.
Bongoon says, my last reaction to that UN report was, who asked that cancerous and useless organization anyway?
Kevin says, Stormzy and Raven are right, Britain is racist.
Their mistake is that believing the racism is against black and brown people, when in fact it is the black and brown people who are racist against the whites.
It's not even that, it's the institutions that are racist against the whites.
The trouble with that is just how many white people, politicians, and police at the top of the pile are racist against white people.
There we go.
You got there as well.
But they're kind of getting bored by it.
They're moving on to the Rainbow Dildo now.
That's the new coolness this week.
Yeah, but it'll just become like the other guy said.
It'll just become a normal thing that, okay, a black guy stabs three English people to death.
It's just part and parcel of living in modern Britain.
He couldn't help it.
He was mentally infirm.
Um, Thomas says, I'll say it before I say it again, Britain makes the worst racists.
Ah, yes, but when you say worst, you mean most effective.
Yeah.
Do you want to do the state of the UK?
It's a bit like when people said that Harold Chipman is the worst serial killer.
It's like, well, no, he's surely the best.
Yeah, he's the most brilliant, isn't he?
You've got to get your term on this right.
Um, so we're close on time, but we'll do a couple from the state of the UK.
Um, The Real Bigfoot says, me and my missus are both waiting to buy our first home, but we're unsure if We will wait for a collapse which feels both inevitable and like it will never come, biting the bullet before it gets worse.
Well that's the other thing, guys like you and me really struggle with Justin, is when is this going to collapse going to come?
When I view it through the prism of the collapse already occurred in 2008, and we're just waiting for it to become obvious to everybody, for basically people to say we're not going to take your credit anymore, but how long that will be, Yeah, who knows?
It's a difficult one.
I used to give this talk where I'd end it with a picture of a guy in the German Women Republic pushing his salary home on a wheelbarrow.
Isn't it obvious to you?
But we've got to get to that point where people just turn over their wheelbarrows and say, yeah, I'm not playing this game anymore.
They're still playing the game.
We've probably run out of time, actually, so we might have to sign off there.
Anyway, well, on that note then, if you want more from Justin, where can we find you, Justin?
Yeah, I'm on Substack.
Yeah, I tend to put all my writing there.
So yeah, it's Dissident Domain.
Yeah, you can find me there.
You can find me on X as well.
The Handle Nomad.
So... That's Stevie G Forever.
Right, yeah.
Sorry, football reference.
This is before I was politically engaged.
So that's, yeah.
Yeah.
Something radicalized you then?
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, I kind of went down the rabbit hole and here I am to stay.
Any such cases.
Well, great.
Thanks so much for coming in and doing that last segment.
It's been great.
Yeah, I've enjoyed it a lot.
Thanks a lot.
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