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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eater's.
I'm joined by Stelios.
Hello.
And Josh.
Hello.
And happy new year.
Oh, yeah, it is.
That too, yeah.
Well, today we're going to be talking about Europe's war on tourists.
Miss Gay resigns, which... Sorry, that does sound like a villain from James Bond, right?
Dr. Gay.
What's he going to do to you, Mr. Bond?
I've got a laser that's going to turn you into something.
Do not answer me, Mr. Bond.
I don't know.
And then the last thing we'll be talking about is the Estonian solution, which is something I've stumbled across.
I want to present as a policy idea, which It's gotta be spicy.
Alan's policy proposals are always good.
Yeah.
I liked your feminist immigration policy.
That was a good one.
Time for my second white paper.
Right, we have an announcement to make though, which is that Thursday?
What day is it today?
Wednesday?
Wednesday, yeah.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow, at 3pm UK time, we'll be doing Lads Hour again.
So if you enjoy the typical shit show that it is, do come and join because it is very good fun.
And this time we'll be talking about the Dino question.
So the Deans and the Dinos need to be dealt with.
Once and for all.
Only Connor knows what direction this is going.
I'm going to be on it, though.
Bring our own agendas.
It's just like, well, you know, we get a big field, we build a big gate.
We put them out to pasture.
Yeah.
Cattle.
Dino's gone to live with Grandpa on the farm.
Anyway, let's begin with something less genocidal, shall we?
That's probably a good idea, yeah.
So recently there have been a series of measures taken by European tourist cities to try and deter people from visiting.
And if you don't live in a European tourist city, this might sound a bit counterintuitive.
And I think many people in Europe who've probably been on holiday there more than other places might have an inkling as to why this might be.
Because most of the cities have cited factors that are awfully familiar to the ones we talk about when it comes to mass migration.
And I wanted to kind of pose the question of, hang on a minute, is some tourism bad?
Now, I'm not going to say, you know, all of it is.
But I think there are some cases where our same complaints for mass migration say things like loss of local identity, inflated cost of living for residents, reduction in availability of housing.
Because in the case of tourism, at least, you've got lots of Airbnbs and things opening up to cater to the tourist market, which makes buying a house for a local more difficult.
I hadn't thought of that, but you're totally right.
If you think about people in Cornwall or Tenerife or whatever, all of their complaints are exactly the same as people complaining about mass immigration into the country.
It's almost like there's something about lots of people from elsewhere coming to a place changes the character of the place and makes it worse for the people who live there, whether it's temporarily or permanently.
But tourists leave.
That's true.
It is one of the more positive points about tourism is that they go away eventually.
So don't worry, we're going to be talking about this.
It's not going to be me just slamming tourism, because I go on holiday sometimes, so I'd be a massive hypocrite.
No, but obviously tourism, as you say, the benefit is that you turn up, you spend a load of money with the locals, and then you're off home.
And they've spent their load of money.
Well, we're going to be examining it, and we're going to be looking at what they're doing as well.
And I think it's interesting, because it kind of indicates, to my mind, a sort of sea-changing political appetite in Europe more generally, because of course, with migration more generally, people are getting more and more hard-line about it, at least certainly in places like France, for example.
And so this also seems to be an indication that actually, no, we don't care if it brings us money.
We want our local character.
We want to preserve our culture.
It shows that there's a sort of fighting spirit to preserving something.
Something that's actually worth fighting for in politics, which I wanted to zone in on.
Also wanted to mention as well that there are other negatives that go with tourism that are parallels with mass migration.
So lots of strains to things like infrastructure as well.
So you've got all the litter, the mess, general wear and tear of buildings.
You've got strained public services and extra sanitation to deal with.
So it's obviously a cost, but is it worth it?
It seems even CNN are talking about over-tourism in Europe, so they're not necessarily even talking about it like it's a bad thing, that's the funny thing.
A lot of the left-wing outlets are kind of sympathetic towards it, which is surprising.
So maybe this is our avenue to get our agenda back on the menu again.
But yeah, this is an article titled, These were some of 2023's worst destinations for over-tourism.
Here's how to avoid the crowds next year.
So I find that interesting because it's kind of implicit and fairly explicit as well.
This is something that you want to avoid, right?
You don't want to be going to the crowded places.
You want to avoid these.
You want to go to the nice places where they're not being spoiled by too many other people.
Incidentally, do they make suggestions about where to go?
They do, yes.
Do they say that some places are not represented accordingly into tourist destinations and you should avoid European overcrowded destinations and go somewhere else?
Yes.
Well deduced.
But you would notice something as well about Britain, and that's part of the reason I thought about this, is that I lived in Bath while I was at university, and I was there for a purpose.
I suppose I wasn't a tourist, but I noticed that when it was tourist season, You would get so many people into quite a small town.
It'd be very dense.
And here is an article from three months ago, The Guardian, saying the medieval city of Wells is named UK's top tourist destination.
You'll notice that if we look at the top 10, if The Guardian will allow us, apparently it won't.
Please give us money now.
I'll do it later.
All of the top 10, like Avebury and Wiltshire.
You've been to Avebury, I know you have.
It's very small, isn't it?
It's like, what, 100 people?
Yes.
Like, all of these places are sort of quaint rural villages.
And do you think an influx of tourists will help enrich the environment of these places, or will it make it worse?
Well, in Avebury they've put up signs in Japanese and Chinese on people's houses saying, this is private property, do not come in.
And the problem was the Chinese and Japanese tourists thought that Avebury was so pretty that it was a theme park and would just go into people's houses and people were like, I'm having breakfast, go away.
What are you doing here?
I imagine that if I lived in a lovely quaint place, I think, wow, I finally made it.
I've, you know, got this nice house.
The Japanese think it's fake, it's that nice.
Yeah.
And, uh, I'll be eating my breakfast and then I'll be dropping my cereal on the floor.
There'll be a Japanese man at the end of my table.
I'm just like, who are you?
It'd be like a fever dream.
You just got random Asians walking into your house.
Where did you come from?
Where am I?
But as an example of how beneficial it can be, because of course I'm not going to give a one-sided thing, this is a Devon & Cornwall tourism parliamentary discussion.
I'm just going to read a little part from it because these are direct quotes from MPs in the South West, because of course this is an important tourist destination in Britain.
I think Devon & Cornwall are known for being kind of go-to places.
within the UK, both domestically and internationally, as the places you go if you want to go on holiday.
But it says, tourism is a key employer of our two counties, representing 10% of all employment in Devon and 20% in Cornwall.
So that's obviously massive, 20% of all employment.
It goes on to say it brought in around 7.3 billion in 2019 Obviously that's significant because it was the non-COVID year, normal data.
And also it was 2.5 billion from international travel, which is 3.8% of the gross total value added to the area.
Apparently that's meant to grow to 15% by 2027.
So it's going to go up significantly and of course part of the reason that people go to places like Devon and Cornwall, I grew up in Devon so I know very well, is that you've got these lovely small quaint towns where it's very quintessentially English still.
You're going there, it's a nice experience, you get some ice cream, you go to the beach.
I've just noticed that they started the debate by arguing about scones.
About what?
You see his scones over there.
Oh yeah.
Sorry, I had to try and- Oh, it's the Devon and Cornwall.
Yeah, they literally started with it.
I know our two counties might be bitterly divided over how best to eat a scone.
Sorry.
It's just so cute.
By the way, I'm gonna put my opinion out here.
Cream first and then the jam.
Come at me, Cornwall.
I think you're right.
Thank you.
Cream acts as butter, right?
If you were to make toast or something, you'd put the butter on first, then the jam.
You wouldn't put the butter on top, would you?
I do love it.
For people who don't know, small parts of England have bitter rivalries that go back hundreds of years over random bits of food.
That was just a snippet for you, but I like Cornwall.
I go there, I like the people.
So, other than scones...
Yeah, Donald Trump.
But they're also running articles like this.
Here's The Telegraph, who's just kind of wrong about this.
They said, how we fell out of love with Cornwall.
And they're saying, in 2020, Visit Cornwall made a bold statement.
That's the tourist What's it called?
Association?
Whatever.
It became the first tourist board, that's the term for it, to explicitly ask British holidaymakers to stay away.
Three years later the British public appears to have heeded the call and I think that The Visit Cornwall tourist board is probably right in saying that actually this isn't that they listened to the advice, it's more that it was lockdown and people wanted to go abroad on holiday, they didn't want to stay in Britain, which was why there were massive spikes when the lockdowns and stuff were going on, why they were telling people to stay away.
So it's a very weird article from the Telegraph but It's worth saying that tourist boards are now explicitly saying, leave us alone.
I know this was COVID times, but still.
There's still this certain amount of sentiment of, you know, people in the West Country saying, oh, they're coming down here.
They're taking our houses, them Londoners.
It's a bit... Somerset there.
It was a bit Somerset, yeah.
I've been too far away from my home county, I'm afraid.
I've somewhat landed in the middle of Wiltshire and Devon, but I think that there's a certain amount of resentment in lots of tourist towns amongst residents of, well, this used to be a nice place to live and now it's not because everything's geared towards tourists and not us.
And that some people are actually willing to sacrifice stuff.
So some places on the continent that are doing so, moving away from my parochial We have Amsterdam, which they ran an ad campaign relatively recently aimed at British men between 18 and 35, which they said they will be fined if they are caught doing drunken, silly things.
And apparently that's not all they're doing.
They're not only going to fine British people.
Apparently there are grassroots organizations going around the center of Amsterdam and they just film stuff.
Um, all of the debauchery and the bad behavior and put it online and try and get press coverage, public pressure to get rid of the tourists, which I find interesting because we're always told, well, they're enriching the economy.
They're bringing us, they're bringing us wealth.
Why would we possibly turn them away?
Well, there are many meta-narratives here, but it turns out people actually like not having horrible debauchery outside of their house.
Who'd have thought?
So another one here, this is quite an extensive one, and I'll need to appeal to you, Stelios, because the first one they mention here, this is titled, We Spit in Your Beer Inside Europe's Grassroots Fight Against Over Tourism.
And then there's a graffiti sign here on a wall.
Come on, let's go home!
I've actually seen this in Spain before, where they actually spray painted it on the side of a mountain.
So, you know, they were serious saying Brits go home and it was on the way into like a mountain village.
So I kind of felt like I don't know.
I kind of felt like I'm not sure I want to go here anymore.
But I kind of got the point that You know, loads of Brits go over to Spain.
We don't learn the language, we don't integrate in their culture.
We kind of just set up our own parallel culture.
I do love that the Spanish are becoming the IRA.
Spray paint the local areas, bataclavas on them, we've got to deal with the Brits.
Is there going to be a movement called Just Stop Tourism, where locals are going to glue themselves in local paintings and statues?
I don't see a downside.
At least they're getting out, I suppose.
So apparently in Athens, I'm going to read from this Telegraph article.
In early December, buildings in Athens used for short-term rental were plastered with posters bearing what seemed to be official government logo.
The message was clear.
Evacuate apartments immediately due to bug beg.
Bedbug, even, if I can speak, infestation, or face a 500 euro fine.
So these posters were fake, by the way.
They were just putting them there to discourage the tourists and make them leave.
Obviously this wasn't an official thing, but it was trying to get people away from an area which had lots of Airbnbs, because Airbnbs are the big bugbear, if you will.
With a lot of people who campaign against tourism.
If we make up a bunch of lies about how awful where we live is and then put up posters being like, oh, it's full of Budbegs here.
We might be able to get rid of a bunch of people who have just turned up.
That's a race to the bottom.
We're not going to win that one.
By the way, there are lots of bedbugs in London, so you shouldn't go there.
Especially if you're a channel migrant.
Yeah, but this doesn't really work for us.
I'm sure you saw recently, there's a lot of Africans making fun of Indian street food.
They make TikToks being like, look how unhygienic this is.
Even the Africans are like, Jesus Christ.
Surely the Indians can hit back and say at least we have food.
Well yeah, most of them.
But I'm just referencing the point, if we put up like, oh man, there's bedbugs in London, the Indians will probably be like, that's fine.
I don't think we're going to win that one.
More food, isn't it?
That's the Chinese, isn't it?
I suppose so.
Close enough.
So, yeah, it seems like there's some non-official stuff going on in Athens.
I don't know what you think about this, Stelios.
The Athenian state, if you will, haven't done anything to combat overtourism.
Is this something that you've encountered because you are an Athenian?
I think there are a lot of other problems that the Athenian state, city-state, and also the Greek nation has to deal with, and they don't have to do with tourism.
Tourism is something primarily good for Greece.
I mean, you were showing us some videos before we started.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's not go there.
Do you mind if I mention it?
Because it is mental.
Well, I mean, it's, yeah, it is mental.
It was videos of loads of Middle Easterners in Athens with Palestinian flags on New Year's Eve.
Yeah.
I was like, what are you doing here?
What the hell are you doing in Greece?
I just, yeah, maybe that's worse than the tourists.
You know, for Greece, you need the economy to be generating money.
And as everyone and their dog knows, the Greeks haven't always had the best economic management by their governments.
But you would want a Greek economy to...
To be good and competitive, so it is going to, let's say, carry forward the Greek nation.
You don't want Greece to become just a geographic region that generates GDP in the same way that you don't want that for the UK.
Of course, yeah.
But I will tell you, because we shouldn't go on a tangent, I'll tell you something about Over tourism, this sort of messing up your experience of an island.
There are some wonderful islands called Koufonisia.
It's like the deaf islands.
Funnily, most people there have the surname Green.
It's, you know, in Greek, Prasinos.
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought it was just a bunch of Brits.
But 20 years ago, It was heaven on earth.
You would have, even mid-August, you'd have 200, 300 people.
Now it's completely filled.
You have to reserve things one or one and a half years before you go there.
And when you go there, most taverns, they tell you, don't have half the menu because they've run out of it.
Yeah, well, some of the Greek islands get a real raw deal.
I mean, they must make a ton of money, but some of them get the drunk British tourists, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
I've seen just one thing closely.
I've seen an inscription on a hotel in English, in Greece, saying, please don't vomit in the pool.
Good advice.
Supposedly Barcelona is also doing something.
Apparently the city acknowledges there's a problem and has introduced various measures.
They raised the nightly tourist tax, so they tax tourists per night, put a limit on the number of tour groups, frozen construction of hotels in the centre, and tightened regulations for those hoping to rent apartments on Airbnb.
So they're the ones taking the most.
To be fair, anything to destroy Airbnb.
Yeah, I don't like them, they suck.
People might have forgotten, they banned, I think it was Lauren Southern and a series of other right-wing YouTubers for even using their services, for doing literally nothing.
I think Lauren just tried to book one, and they banned her, and she was just like... Hotels are better anyway, like Airbnb, you've got all these rules and they'll charge you cleaning charges, you go in a hotel, they won't do any of that.
I don't know, I just, yeah, Airbnb do not deserve anything.
Hotels are just cheaper and better.
I don't see the... Depends on where you are.
Yeah, I suppose.
You know, if you've got like a nice waterfront mansion or something for a retreat holiday or something.
Then I can kind of understand, you know, it's a self-contained thing.
If you're just staying in a room, who cares?
And yeah, apparently, they're quoting here, tourists go home, yells the graffiti all over the old city, close to major tourist attractions.
Your luxury trip, my daily misery, is another slogan graffiti'd on the walls.
Can we put that in London?
Your luxury trip, my daily misery.
Yeah.
We put it in Swindon.
Yeah.
I think I need it here.
Apparently they also acknowledge the other side as well.
They say those who painted this have never have been to New York, Berlin, London, Lisbon, Tangier, Istanbul, reads one sign in response, but they don't want anyone coming to this neighborhood.
Hypocrisy is the worst way to fight against gentrification.
But gentrification, surely.
I mean, it's got a negative word, negative connotation.
What does it really mean?
It just means making a place nicer, really.
That's how it's used in this day and age.
It doesn't always mean that in the sort of objective sense.
Like sometimes people can, you know, lots of sort of moneyed people can move in and move the locals out.
That does happen sometimes, but that's more in sort of the Southwest of, you know, England where they're buying up all the nice homes, all the holiday homes, Londoners, people like that.
But I don't necessarily see it as an inherently bad thing.
And finally, Venice.
Apparently, Venetians are walking a tightrope between objecting to over-tourism, which makes normal life in the city a nightmare, and the knowledge that the income from those same tourists keeps the city afloat.
And that's not just a term, as in, they need to generate the revenue to keep the city from sinking into the ocean because it was built on like a marshland, wasn't it?
And so it's slowly sinking into the water and they've got to pay lots of money to put lots of soil or something.
I can't remember the exact specifics of it.
But basically the only reason that city is still standing is because of all of the tourist money paying for the fact that they can preserve it.
Otherwise, a lot of it would be sinking into the ocean.
Also, whenever climate people say, but look, Venice is literally flooding, it's because it's sunk, not because the sea level is necessarily risen.
So that's worth bearing in mind as well.
And another one as well, certainly a very beautiful city.
Florence has banned new Airbnbs and short-term rentals from the centre.
So there's clearly lots of stuff going on here and all at a sort of comparable amount of time.
It's sort of late this year.
That all of this was going on.
I just found it very interesting that lots of these places you associate with tourism would make money from tourism.
That's kind of the bedrock of their economy.
And yet they're saying, hang on a minute, even in a sort of potential recession, economic downturn at the very least, we're turning these people away.
So it was nice to see that they're actually valuing the local community now that they realize that it could be under threat from tourists, from people coming there that aren't from the local area.
And just to prove that I'm not being a complete hypocrite, let's talk about the Brits and the damage we do.
The Brits on Tenerife holiday told to go home in the warnings left by furious locals and Here's another one.
I lived on the Canary Islands before British tourists ruined it, now it's ghastly.
And another one here.
Lanzarote launches bid to attract more British tourists months after the island's president sparked outcry by calling for higher quality of holiday makers.
I want a better class of people.
I mean, who doesn't?
Yeah, but I think that Complaining about British and Irish tourists, which it says in the first line here.
We do go there and just get drunk and bloat up in the sun, like, pretty big.
Yeah.
I thought everyone who did that went to Chagaloo.
Like, Lanzarote was sort of where you went.
Well, we do it wherever we go, don't we, really?
Like, for a certain number of people, getting drunk on holiday seems to be the thing to do, even though when I go on holiday, it's like the last thing I want to do, because you should be going about the place, seeing what it looks like, not staying in one place and just binging.
That's just me.
But yeah, as I said, it can do some good.
Um, obviously sort of Cornwall, England, Greece, these are all examples of places that seem to benefit economically at the very least, even though, um, actions have been taken to push back against it.
Um, and obviously it's good that it's pushing the notion of preserving your community, because that's what we want to see really, isn't it?
We want to see people appreciating the value of Having a close-knit local community whereby you know the people who are about, don't have random people coming in and changing the atmosphere that has been created organically.
There's something beautiful about it and unless you've experienced it, it's very difficult to put a tangible sort of value upon it.
But everyone who lives in a place like that knows what it's like and it is something worth preserving.
It's also worth mentioning, I haven't had an article for this, but places like the Serengeti National Park in Tanzania as well.
All of the tourism there helps fund the National Park's efforts.
So it's very contingent on where you're actually going.
Like if it's a major city in Europe, you're probably not going to be helping too much.
There's already an economic center.
You're probably just going to make it even more expensive than it already is.
If it's a smaller place or it's not a touristy place, you're a great example of this, Callum, because you go to places that don't see too many tourists, right?
Afghanistan.
places in Russia, Ukraine during...
Yeah, war zones.
Yeah.
And I imagine that your money probably helps out the people who live there.
I imagine the people in all of these countries, you went across the Baltic as well, not necessarily a popular holiday destination.
And so it's not a problem, that sort of thing, right?
In fact, it probably helps people.
Whereas there are lots of places where there's just too many people, it's making it not nice.
So my kind of advice would be, either visit some of these destinations out of season, if you are insistent on going.
Like, I would like to see Rome.
It's probably one of the places that gets over tourism, but I'm a massive history nerd, so I want to see all of the Roman architecture in its flesh.
Go to places that aren't overcrowded and try and avoid busy places.
It makes it nicer anyway, so that should be what you're going for.
And respect local customs.
Avoid, you know, culture clashes.
Whenever I go on holiday I try and learn the language and at least make an effort.
And normally it's met with a smirk, just like, you British people are terrible.
But at least they appreciate that I've tried.
and um yeah go to less common destinations and they are out there like um there's this place that i'm unintentionally going to docks um picture's not coming up but lesser known uk town that's just as beautiful beautiful as bath but without the crowds and uh there it is i'm not going to tell you where it is But there it is.
They do exist.
Enjoy the Easter cunt.
Yes.
I mean, you can just search the headline if you're that desperate.
But there are places that aren't ruined.
You can visit nice places.
And I would like people to just be, you know, a bit more considerate about it.
You don't really have to go too far out of your way.
I'm not saying you're terrible for going on holiday to these places.
I've been to Venice, went to Prague in the summer last year.
You know, I've been to some of these places that people are complaining about.
I've been part of the problem.
So I'm not going to wag my finger.
I think that basically these articles are really weird because it's like saying, let's look at Rome or a big city.
It suffers from overtourism.
So go to that small village there.
And ruin it.
So it's like the village is targeted for termination or something.
And obviously I'm not saying I have all the answers.
I'm just giving you food for thought.
I'm not telling you what to do.
Millions of tourists go to one place.
Look at this village.
There are only a hundred people live.
It deserves to die.
I think I'm going to end the segment by saying the perfect kind of person is someone who's born on a spot and just doesn't move.
That's how you solve this.
All right, well, let's move on.
And let's talk about Dr. Gay and their plans.
Professor Gay.
Professor Gay.
Yeah, and President Gay.
Dr. Dre is an upgrade.
Okay, basically, Claudine Gay was the president of Harvard and she resigned.
But when you introduce woke people, you have to put titles in front of it.
So it's not just that she was...
Right, honorable, President Gay.
Exactly, yes.
So it's not just Harvard President Gay, it's the first black woman president of Harvard, and the second woman president of Harvard.
They are actually honorifics, aren't they?
You're right.
Yes, exactly, yeah.
She's also the first diversity head of Harvard as well.
I read that somewhere.
Are you sure, Josh?
Are you sure?
I'm sure it's based on merit.
Well, let's see.
So Harvard President Claudine Gay resigns of a plagiarism claims and disastrous antisemitism testimony in bitter letter where she says she has been victim of racism.
This is the lady who was arguing that it's perfectly legitimate to discuss whether or not we should kill the Jews.
That's her position, yes.
It depends on the context.
It wouldn't violate Harvard's code of conduct was her statement.
And she's a victim of racism.
I think she would add, it depends on the context.
If you're in the right stag, less so.
No, she actually said this.
She always said it depends on the context.
I'm not joking.
Yeah.
I'll show you.
I don't think she had comedy in mind though, did she?
Necessarily.
No.
So it says, Day 53 lasted just six months in the role.
The shortest tenure of any president in the school's history.
So that's another, not exactly honorific, it's like the shortest serving president of Harvard.
I haven't actually kept up with this story.
Who was she plagiarizing out of interest?
All sorts of people.
It wasn't, you know, the mustache man, right?
No, no, no.
I don't know if that's where it was going.
She has released a book called My Struggle.
I don't know.
My Struggle is the first black woman.
She hasn't actually.
I have a document by Chris Rufo and Chris Brunette who are writing about this.
So for anyone who wants to, I'll just show it.
I won't talk about it for anyone who wants to see a bit more about the allegations.
Okay, so it says, Gay 53 lasted just six months in the role, the shortest tenure of any president in the school's history.
Her resignations come 28 days later.
After a shocking congressional testimony about campus antisemitism, where she refused to categorize calls for Jewish genocide as harassment or concede that Jewish students had a right not to feel safe at Ivy League schools.
You remember this incident?
Of course.
I know it very well.
I found the chant quite funny that was something along the lines of, get the gay out of our education or something.
I can't remember the exact wording of it, but it was a play on words that just sounded... Hey, hey!
Ho, ho!
Those homos have got to go!
I don't think that was it.
It says also in her resignation, Gay wrote that she was standing down after consultation with the school's board.
Which has been under pressure to replace her after defending her remarks.
Now, what kind of pressure do you think that was?
Headlock.
Well, monitor.
Okay.
Let me show you.
Where is it?
What happened here?
I'll show you that basically a lot of billionaire donors withdrew their funds, the funding, and that was basically the main reason why she resigned.
Do you want me to move on?
No, no, it's okay.
Now, one thing, because a lot of you may think that she resigned And she left completely, that's not technically true.
She's still working as the janitor?
She's still working there as a professor.
Okay.
She operates the showers.
Then there's a question of salary, and I'll tell you that right now there's a lot of discussion and a lot of claims on Twitter about salary.
Can you guess about the salary she was getting?
$1,488 per month or not?
Callum!
I think it's a bit more.
No, she's probably on something like $200,000 a year, maybe, if not more.
Josh, this is really bad.
Is it more?
So, what I'll just show you here is from Harvard Magazine, it's from University News from the 12th of December of 2023.
That's just from Harvard.
And it's from two years ago.
So what it says here... Two years ago?
Yeah.
Last month was two years ago.
When she wasn't... A billion dollars!
No, it's about the fiscal year.
When she was not the president.
I'll just give you a number, okay?
When that was on the calendar year 2021.
Obviously it's a bit different, but they're just going to give you the numbers there.
The most highly compensated officials are the expected ones among Harvard leaders.
The president at that point got $1,048,985.
I'm very disappointed you didn't do $1,000,000.
The Dr. Evil one, yeah.
$8,985.
I'm very disappointed you didn't do $1 million.
Dr. Evil one, yeah.
Plus other compensation of $280.
Let's say $280,000.
So 1.28 mil.
That was basically the salary of the president before she got this.
And she was there as, where is she?
Let's see.
Faculty of Arts.
At that point, she had the very humble salary of $646,049.
As a Faculty of Arts and Sciences Dean.
This is what I never get about rating these kinds of salaries.
Why the 49 bucks?
I know it's a bit of a tanger, but seriously, if she's not happy with 646,000... It's about inflation!
It's probably going to be... It's a tax thing, isn't it, surely?
Is that how they calculate it or something?
So after tax, you're going to be left with a round number.
Okay.
Alright.
That's my guess.
Okay.
Let us know.
Anyway, just to show you that it's not that she has completely been economically destroyed or something.
She just... So she went from 650 grand to 1.2 million and is now back to 650 grand.
Let me just be very clear.
The 1.2 million is about the previous president.
I'm seeing lots of figures, but because it's just Twitter accounts without any substantial backing before, I'm just giving you this from Harvard, okay?
They are saying somewhere like close to a million.
Now it's close to 900,000.
That's what they're saying, but I have to give you a number that is not just hearsay.
Being a black woman is the best thing that could happen to you.
So, what happened here?
Billionaire donors withdrew funding and Harvard Board repeatedly supported her despite several plagiarism claims and anti-Semitism scandal.
Now, do you think that it's racist that she lost the presidency?
She does.
Of course she does.
And a lot of other people do.
Let's see here.
Derek Johnson just got slapped with a community note for claiming calling out Harvard President Claudine Gay for plagiarism is nothing more than political theatrics advancing a white supremacist agenda.
Let's just, can we click on the, see here, what he says.
Derek Johnson.
Enough is enough.
I have had it with this.
No, sorry.
Yeah, okay.
Enough is enough.
Harvard President Claude Engay is a distinguished scholar and professor with decades of service.
Or Steer Scholar, who only engaged in moderate terrorism.
In higher education, the recent attacks on Hillary Clinton, nothing more than advancing a white supremacist agenda.
Why is white supremacists everywhere?
Everything is portrayed as white supremacists.
You cannot criticize someone Without being called a white supremacist.
If it was white supremacy, why would the white supremacist wait until she started criticizing the Jews or what have you indirectly to take action?
Why wouldn't they have just been like, hey, this is white supremacy, so we're not even going to let you be president?
It's like, no, not everyone knows white supremacists love Jewish people.
You know the worst thing about Rhodesia is that if you were a black woman, you just take over and get paid a million bucks.
Yeah.
Let's play the video to remember the December 5 testimony.
And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?
It can be, depending on the context.
What's the context?
Targeted as an individual?
Targeted at an individual?
It's targeted at Jewish students.
Jewish individuals.
Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
Do you understand that dehumanization is part of antisemitism?
I will ask you one more time.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment, intimidation, that is actionable conduct and we do take action.
So, the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard Code of Conduct, correct?
Again, it depends on the context.
It does not depend on the context.
The answer is yes, and this is why you should resign.
These are unacceptable answers across the board.
So what I want to say about it depends on the context.
Plagiarism allegations.
Where Claudine Gay has had to issue corrections, multiple corrections.
Now, we should note that Claudine Gay has not been accused of stealing anyone's ideas in any of her writing.
Quick.
Come on.
Dr. Gay.
There has to be a god.
I've come round.
This cannot be true that the person is in there being like, let's kill all the Jews from Harvard.
It's called Dr. Gay.
It's not real.
A 12-year-old does enjoy it.
It's the wonderful world.
Dr. Gay gets a million dollars.
Wonderful world of crazy diversity.
DI 21st century.
I would also like to come out in support of Count Dankula's comments about this.
That genocide is probably a bit more than bullying.
Yeah.
It's a bit of a strange question, like, is it bullying?
You see, one thing that I want to say is because, you know, I was working for a university and she was a professor, a president of a university and, you know, she made this testimony.
You know, it's really weird to see the double standard and occasionally It's not funny, it's tragic and sometimes comic to see the double standard that these people are using, the woke bureaucrats.
If anyone said something that disagreed with the woke agenda in the least, there would be no consideration about context.
No, of course not.
Exiled from the university or something, but now it depends on the context.
Let's look at this.
Let's look at that.
She is she wants a kind of mercy for the for herself and the people she claims to defend that she doesn't show anyone she disagrees with and.
Anyway, I just think that this is disgraceful.
Now, with respect to the accusations of plagiarism, I have an article here by Christopher Rufa and Christopher Brunette, who are talking about this.
They're talking about the several places in her PhD where she is sort of using phrases from other people's work.
She doesn't acknowledge them, things like that.
It doesn't look good.
Shows a lack of confidence in her own ability to articulate herself, doesn't it?
Yes, but you see, when we are dealing with ideologues who cannot read the situation and they always have to see things through the prism of their ideology and they just never look at the concrete case in front of them.
Lots of people made this about racism, about conservatism, and you have people like Jonathan Chait saying this is the kind of trap Rufus specializes in exploiting.
He attacks targets that maintain high ethical standards, which he himself doesn't care about at all, forcing them to choose between maintaining the standards and resisting his nakedly political agenda.
Sorry, mate.
I love it that American leftists always try and take the moral high ground but then just immediately degenerate to attacking the right.
Isn't that a feature of leftists globally?
It is, yeah.
But it's always the worst people as well.
Like this person had high standards, this plagiarising diversity hire.
This is the same thing with BLM.
I was about to say that.
All of your martyrs are like, guy who died from overdosing on drugs, the guy who died because he tried to shoot the police.
You have the worst people to sit there and be like, well, they had high medical standards.
He was a good criminal.
But they didn't have...
Unlike Mr. Rufo, he doesn't even take drugs.
But they didn't have a negatively political agenda.
They cared for justice.
Yeah.
Yeah?
Justice isn't political.
Okay.
There's nothing political about justice.
Like many journalists, I've faced this kind of attack before with Rufo trying to use rather small factual corrections to support his farcical narrative of a left-wing media conspiracy.
And his response is, yes, Jonathan, tried I must have trouble back in time, plagiarized all of Claudine Gay's academic papers, then implanted a mind-control chip in her brain so she equivocated about anti-Semitism in front of Congress.
It was all part of my sinister trap.
Why did Christopher Rufo do that?
I don't know.
Why would he go to all those lengths?
Never go full Chait.
Anyway, let's see here.
I have some bits here from The Guardian.
What did The Guardian write about it?
What did they make it about?
She's a victim of mental health and racism.
That's it.
It's a bunch of racist Republicans that are just like, The campaign against gays' presidency was largely promoted by conservative activists.
President Gay.
Oh, no.
Sorry.
That's childish.
Imagine you have the surnames of the candidates.
Do you vote gay or...?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Can't say what I want to.
The campaign against Gay's presidency was largely promoted by conservative activists, including those who oppose diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
They argued that Gay was hired not because of her decades of academic work and recognition, but rather because she's Black.
New plagiarism allegations surfaced on Monday in a conservative online journal that has led the campaign against Gay.
Following the initial complaints, Gay defended her work.
I stand by the integrity of my scholarship, she wrote.
But it was all faked.
It was all plagiarized.
So no, you didn't have any work whatsoever.
Your rainbow reich is over now, gay.
You were literally like, I'm here because I'm the first black woman.
And then when everyone points that out, you're like, no, no, it's because of my academic work.
And then everyone looks at the work.
It was all fake, plagiarized.
Yeah.
But now what?
You're literally fake and gay.
And CNN is defending her and they're trying to make the accusations sound a bit more severe than they actually are.
Let us look at this wonderful clip.
These plagiarism allegations, uh, where Claudine Gay has had to issue corrections, um, multiple corrections.
Now, we should note that, um, Claudine Gay has not been accused of stealing anyone's ideas in any of her writings.
Uh, she's been accused of sort of, uh, more like, uh, copying, uh, other people's writings without attribution.
So it's been more sloppy attribution than stealing anyone's ideas.
But nonetheless, you put all of that together.
These plagiarism allegations, uh, where Claudine Gay has had Damn it, this person has pros.
That's what I did for my university dissertation.
I just didn't attribute people.
But I didn't steal other people's ideas or work.
I looked at the things that were actually copied and a lot of the time it's like the actual structure of the sentences rather than the actual ideas she's expressing.
Like she changed the context of the writing.
I don't know why I'm defending that.
Because it depends on the context.
Anyway, let's move forward.
Anyway, someone says here, Mark Lamont Hill, the next president of Harvard University must be a black woman.
Again?
No, but there we are.
That's the mission.
The only reason these people are here is because they're black and women.
Notice how he doesn't mention competence, excellence, merit, or experience.
The only qualifications are ancestry and anatomy.
Bizarre and regressive.
You see, I think that's something that isn't discussed a lot.
That when, on the one hand, you are promoting a kind of agenda that says that meritocracy is bad, or because we can't have perfect meritocracy, we need to have 0% meritocracy.
We need to have the stupidest people in charge.
Not only this happens because... I support that to be fair.
Because you end up with bureaucrats.
You end up with bureaucrats who just say, okay, I'm going to be your poster boy or poster girl.
But not only this, but the people who get the jobs, if they have a conscience, they don't like thinking that they got it just because of that.
I mean, I think people who do have a conscience do want to think that the things that they have, they deserve them.
Which is why we have diversity hires that are so stupid, they don't even know if they had breakfast this morning.
I take the Labour Party position of, I want sub-70 IQ people in positions of power.
God, yeah.
Neurodivergent representation now.
Yeah.
So, I'll tell you, Joy Reid from MSNBC, she said that Claudine Gay's resignation from Harvard was part of a campaign to replace women and people of colour with white men in elite universities.
Reid accuses Christopher Roof of leading this campaign and claims... Yeah, because everyone knows universities have been a safe haven for white men.
Let's look at the presupposition, though.
It's like, man, I hate white men.
You know why?
Because they don't plagiarise.
You know why else I hate them?
They don't try to kill the Jews.
That's the problem.
White men are disproportionately underrepresented in universities.
How about that?
Again, true.
But what is there to even say?
I mean, the progressive left are honestly just a punching bag at this point.
I know they still manage to run the United States somehow, which is weird, but it's not even worth arguing.
They're just laughable.
Utterly laughable.
Now, a lot of discussion goes on about the next day for Harvard.
Right now they have an interim president.
He is Alan Garber.
He was appointed as new interim president after he was seen nodding in approval during Claudine Gay's anti-Semitism testimony that led to her ousting.
He was nodding along going, yes, of course, they should go.
I'd like to think he's going like that.
He's got his eyes closed.
She's hitting all the right notes.
He hasn't read the room.
He's just got his eyes closed.
I think it was the opposite.
He was nodding on the condemnation.
Yes.
I was going to say.
Yes.
But I don't know about his agenda.
I've heard that he sometimes supports DEI stuff.
And this I haven't found a lot so far, but he's going to be the interim president.
But whatever happens, I don't think that Harvard will stop being a DEI department.
At the moment, I saw also Chris Rufus saying things like we're going to destroy DEI in all the universities.
I hope he does.
I hope DEI gets destroyed, but I wouldn't hold my breath, especially about Harvard.
So it seems to me more like it is an issue of targeting one person and blaming that person with, let's say, the Gap in funding and billionaires withdrawing funding now suddenly everything's gonna go back to normal because you could say that funding was not withdrawn until now.
Until these things so it's not that harvard became woke post post december five.
The people giving money to Harvard don't care about that, they care about if they're antisemitic.
That was the straw.
Just to kind of highlight that it's been going on for a long time, in 2016 I think it was, there was a scholarship to Harvard which I looked into applying for.
And it turns out the actual research that I would have been doing for this scholarship would have been investigating rape culture in universities, which of course is the feminist lie that there is a culture which promotes rape, which is wrong because most people are negative towards rapists.
I'm going to say that like a child because most people don't like them.
Most Europeans.
Yeah, well that's true.
No, I want to say something about this, because especially in sociology departments, in a lot of sociology departments, there is this push towards lecturers and also people who are PhD researchers and are teaching classes and seminars to tell them that there is such a thing as rape culture in the West.
And they are told to teach that when someone says something like that, That when someone says that they are pro-sexual abuse, that men cheer for them.
This is absolute bullshit.
It's the exact opposite.
I've never heard a man say, I'm in favor of that.
No, but this is what these people are teaching universities.
But if you run for president of the Republic of Congo, I don't know.
It's a vote winner.
But they never go over there and do the research.
It's a different context.
Yeah.
It's a different context, different culture.
You can't actually real problems instead of fake ones.
Yeah.
So, and I want to say that Alan Garber is going to be the interim president.
I don't know if he is going to end up a president, but there are some candidates.
Let us see here.
If we can click on it, it says breaking news.
Harvard Corporation appoints special presidential committee to select more problematic candidates to replace former president Claude Engain.
We have Sauron, Uh, Patrice Cullors, Elizabeth Warren, Satan, uh, um, Ibram X. Kendi.
Taylor Swift!
I like how they refer to Sean King as Da Kang.
No, I like the guest.
Someone called Hubba's.
Hamas guy is just like, I'm guest.
I'm joining as guest.
I can't see it.
Oh, where is it?
We have the... Oh yeah, I see it.
She Queen.
Underneath.
Why is Michelle Obama called Mike?
I have no idea.
Must be a mistype, right?
Representative Rosa DeLauro.
I think she's wearing lots of colors there.
I don't understand why Ron DeSantis is in amongst all of these.
What's his I don't know, but I think it's Nemo.
You've got the penguin to the left of him as well.
Yeah, there we are.
And you have President Joe Biden there, do you see?
Oh yeah.
On the third line of his ceiling, yeah.
That was obviously deliberate, wasn't it?
Well, let's move on to a policy point.
I hope a solution, boys, to all of our problems.
It comes from the wild, wild east.
The Estonian solution, boys.
Now, of course, there are many solutions to many problems.
The Rhodesia solution was a great one, but now we are now going to learn from Estonia.
And in case you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking, of course, about Red Dead 2 players who have to walk 10,000 kilometers all the way to Europe because their country is better than Europe, which is why they're in Europe.
You know, those guys.
Everyone's favorite.
The migrants.
Yes.
The endless, endless waves.
I could sit here and talk about statistics and stories and whatnot, but something happened very recently that I thought would be perfect to include in an explanation about why we need the Estonian solution, which is a personalized story about how bad this place is.
I mean, the West, but specifically the UK.
Because the UK is an international joke, and I fully embrace that American side of hating on the UK now.
You know when you run into Americans and you're like, I'm there.
I'm there with our politics, yeah.
That's what I mean.
It's just cringe.
Everything we do is cringe at that.
Oh yeah, of course.
And this is a good example.
ISIS fanatic, who snuck into Britain illegally, is given UK citizenship, despite security service terror threat warning.
I'm surprised he wasn't given a position in the Shadow Cabinet, to be honest.
I'm not really sure how that... So when you go and get your citizenship, you're naturalized, you go to an office and they play the National Anthem and you are there and you can sing along to it if you want.
Like, I do wonder if he turned up and was just like, can I have the Nasheed, please?
You know, that's kind of my music.
Like, I'm not really sure how that works.
The ISIS flag, and after he was awarded citizenship, he took the person who...
I have all the headlines on the world.
I mean, that is a good headline.
And the story is obviously mental.
And they go into big detail here, but I don't want to go into all of that because I just want to get the cliff notes.
Which is here, perfectly written.
So this is the MI5 dossier on illegal Sudanese migrants, the male representative here.
And it's just the cliff notes of his life.
So in 2005, in September, he entered the UK illegally and claimed asylum.
And this was denied, because we were living in the afterglow of the pre-Blair era, in which people got denied... Don't talk about it like that, even ironically.
Then the Blair era came and changed everything, of course.
By 2006, he was actually an innocent little boy.
Immigration judge grants him an indefinite leave to remain in Britain.
He claims to be a member of the Tanjore tribe of Darfur in Western Sudan, who have been tortured by military forces.
An obvious lie.
The judge concluded that if he returned home, it would be reasonable for the likelihood that he would be questioned by Sudanese authorities and tortured.
I'm sorry, this is obviously a lie.
Anyone who can tell anything about international mass movements can know that these people just lie en masse all the time.
And you'll see why in a minute.
Because he became a British citizen five years later.
Sorry, ten years later, in 2015.
And then immediately went back to Sudan on a British passport.
Wonderful.
Damn, if I go back to Sudan they'll kill me.
Time to go back to Sudan!
As soon as he got the passport, he was like, I'm going home.
It's like a, it's like a golden ticket, isn't it?
Like he can just walk around.
It's like, you can't shoot me.
You can't genocide me or torture me.
I've got a British passport.
It's like the closer you are to death, the more alive you feel.
But obviously he's got dual citizenship.
He's got Sudanese and British.
That wasn't his goal.
His goal wasn't to get some kind of perfect immunity.
That is the British passport with its page on the inside that says Her Majesty the Queen demands that you bear the pair of this passport free passage.
That doesn't actually work.
You can show that to a Russian immigration official and they'll look at you funny.
The reality was that he just wanted a British passport and if he broke in and then waited 10 years, he'd be eligible for it.
I think what some people don't realize is that there are a hierarchy of passports, aren't there?
And certain passports can get you to more countries.
Or get you shot.
Yeah, that's true.
But a British one is particularly good because we haven't made nearly as many enemies as some people might suggest.
Sure, but again, his goal in this was not because he actually feared Sudan or he wouldn't have gone back at all.
So after he goes on his lovely trip, he comes back a few months later to the UK.
and um then files for uh flies back to Sudan and applies for a Sudanese residence permit because he's so scared of the country which allows him to come and go for the next five years because he you know it could be tortured at any moment so he wants to make sure that likelihood is as high as he's into that that's why he's gone back yeah he's actually just a BDSM fetishist during his stay he's said to have received disseminated ISIS propaganda So he's downloading ISIS stuff on his phone.
And in 2017, well, he's got a bunch of ISIS stuff on his phone.
And we know this because they detained him in April and checked his phone.
And we're like, hmm, yes, this guy is clearly a fanatic for ISIS.
He loves ISIS.
Otherwise, why does he have so much pro-ISIS stuff on his phone?
And at that point, any normal country would have denied his entry back to the UK, scrapped his citizenship and said, go back to Sudan, you terrorist-loving scum.
And what happened instead is that he travels to Sudan freely, and then the Home Secretary is like, ha ha ha, I'm in my trap, I'll do something!
Gets rid of his citizenship, and then he tried to come back, and they told him no.
So then he just broke into the country again.
Oh, lovely.
Because you just fly to Ireland and then cross the border because we don't have a border.
I'm surprised we didn't give him some weapons at this point.
I mean, that's where we're at.
Yeah.
We may as well be arming them.
I mean, I don't get the argument that, you know, just because some people in another place are engaging in warfare that you have to somehow save someone.
I don't see why I should be coerced by the government to give my money to help people who don't care about me.
Yeah.
Even if he was in danger, we don't owe him anything.
He wasn't in danger.
In fact, he is the danger, Skylar!
Him over here comes back to the UK.
Sudanese Walter White over here.
Even though we know he is the danger, the Home Secretary personally intervenes to get rid of his citizenship.
He then just wins a special immigration appeal and gets it back.
And now he's able to come and go, even though we know he's an ISIS lover.
Wonderful.
I love living in this country sometimes.
It's just actually amazing how bad our situation is.
And you remember just how corrupt and evil the foreign world can be.
And there's this story.
Slavery has returned, boys!
Turns out all of our former colonies are just doing it because we left.
They just don't care.
Who'd have thought that actually Britain was a civilizing force in the world?
I mean, it only has been for the past, what, 500 years at least?
These are the slave markets of Kuwait.
You can find them on Instagram and other good retailers.
As they say here... You're not sponsored by them, are you, Callum?
I'm just saying, that's a good deal.
Drive around the streets of Kuwait and you will see these women.
You won't see them.
They're hiding behind closed doors.
They're deprived of their basic human rights.
Blah blah blah, says the BBC.
They're being sold to the highest bidder.
But if you pick up a smartphone in Kuwait and scroll through, you'll see thousands of their pictures categorized by race and available to buy for a mere price of a few thousand dollars.
The first five callers.
Calling now.
An undercover agent with the BBC Arabic team found that domestic workers are being illegally brought and sold online in a booming black market.
Some of the trade is being carried out on Facebook's owned Instagram, where posts are being promoted by algorithm-boosted hashtags.
Instagram's deliberately boosting slavery posts.
Hashtag slaves now dot com.
But no, it's right wingers that the harmful content is.
Do you want a black?
Do you not want a black?
I mean literally.
It's a white race.
We've got diversity slavers.
These are more palatable to our brand.
It's not only algorithm-boosted hashtags, they also use private messages to message each other, which slaves, you know, it's like trading cards.
But the biggest sale in Kuwait is the 4Sale app, which is just an app called 4Sale.
And on there, you can filter your slaves by race, you can filter their price brackets, and according to each category.
And these categories are obviously the type of race as well.
So finally, all of my slavery needs can be met.
Yeah.
Inconvenience.
That's horrifying, by the way.
Someone made this!
Someone, like a team of people, sat down and were like, do you want to develop an app?
And they developed this.
They developed the Slave App.
This is slavery for the 21st century!
My goodness.
So you want to read some of the bios as you swipe?
Yeah.
Okay.
First bio here of an African woman says, African worker, clean and smiley.
Very affordable.
Another one, Nepalese who dares to ask for a day off.
Cheeky, cheeky slaves out there.
Dares to ask for a day off.
Or those who are void with blind obedience and want some resistance.
I hate to pick up on the quality of a slaver's slaving, but why would they mention that she asks for days off?
That's not a good selling point.
Maybe they've got a discount on her.
It's explaining why there's a different price.
I'm an honest slaver.
I don't lie.
I'm a bit lazy.
It's an interesting, um, accent there.
I'm not sure that's what they would have, is it?
Um, well it sort of more talked like this, but, uh, according to the Sellers, or the Slavers, uh, the undercover team frequently heard racist language.
That's the real crime, not slavery.
Of course, the BBC are here to be like, they're a bit racist as well, weren't they?
They categorize their slaves based on race, but no, the language they use, ooh.
He's a hard worker, Pat.
He's a valiant... Okay.
No, they said the Indians are the dirtiest, said one of the slavers, describing a woman he was selling.
I mean, you are right.
It's a weird slave selling tactic.
Better create your own goods.
You will find someone buying a maid for 600 Kuwaiti dinars, about $2,000, and selling her for 1,000 Kuwaiti dinars, $3,300, he said.
So there we are.
You can, you know, do stock options on your slaves.
And leftists have the nerve to say that Western cultures are the worst and most hypocritical thing ever.
Yeah.
I mean, this is the thing, it's like, okay, yeah, I feel like maybe the rest of the world deserves the migrants, not us.
Saudi Arabia, they also did an investigation there and found hundreds of women being sold on Haraj, which is a popular commodity app.
So again... Blimey.
The connotation there is interesting, isn't it?
You can also buy slaves on Instagram and Facebook in Saudi Arabia.
The BBC team have since contacted the apps and tech companies about their findings.
The For Sale app has removed the domestic worker section of the platform.
So you can no longer buy domestic workers.
So that it wasn't even just... Is it going to be sold under agricultural goods now?
Yeah.
I mean, that's... there will be workarounds.
But think about that for a minute, they weren't just selling people, they had a tab.
Like, someone in the app development team was like, domestic workers, there we are.
You can buy them there.
Okay, that's for sale.
And also let me add just the wage slavery issue that leftists have been hammering, bombarding people with.
Saying, no, you have a real wage, it's all, you're a slave.
Don't you remember the slave trade?
Yes, I can see it on my phone.
It's a bit dirty.
You see that?
Sorry, I'm getting pissed off, obviously, with this and the leftists because, you know, they have the nerve to show all this kind of BS all the time.
Yeah, and then this is the actual world.
Yes.
And then when someone shows it, let's censor it.
So they messaged Haraj, the Saudi-owned app.
So the Kuwaiti one said, oh, very sorry, we'll delete that section.
They messaged the Saudis and the Saudis just didn't respond.
They didn't even delete the slave section!
They're gonna double down.
Yeah, they were like, well, they're commodities.
We're a commodity-based app.
What do you want?
Well, I mean, they're bombing Yemen and hardly anyone cares, so they can probably get away with slavery as well.
Yeah, they should have responded just by like, what you can do about it.
Do you want your goods to go through, um, you know, I forgot what it's called now.
Suez Canal.
Yeah.
So the Kuwaiti government has said that they are at war with this kind of behavior and insisted that the apps should be heavily scrutinized.
And to be honest, I actually believe the Kuwaiti government in all of this because I used to date a Kuwaiti guy and it gave me some insight into the specifics of the Kuwaiti state, which is a mad place.
But the big problem in Kuwait is not the Kuwaitis.
It's not the incredibly rich Arabs who don't give a toss.
They've got their own problems, don't get me wrong.
I used to hear stories about if the husband, the man of the house, thought the maid was cuter than one of his wives, all of a sudden the maids would jump out the window.
For some reason, they just couldn't live.
Oh, I heard about this.
Yeah, where the wife will throw the maid out the window out of jealousy.
No, no, no.
Suicide.
Oh, right.
Ruled suicide every time.
Yeah, the police will just turn up and it just goes right.
So they've got their own problems, don't get me wrong.
But the actual slavers, so the people doing proper slavery, well, if you look at the demographics of Kuwait, there's a pattern that emerges, which is that there's no bloody Kuwaitis, because why would there be?
So if you scroll all the way down to, I think it goes down to NISTI here at the bottom, 41% Kuwaiti.
So that's just a bit higher than London, being English.
And you've got Arab expats, and then Asians, South Asians, 35%.
So this is Indians, Bangladeshis, and Pakistanis who used to do the work and then, well, just started importing slaves and organizing slavery back home.
Okie dokie.
And for some reason, Check out Leicester, back to the UK.
10,000 people could be victims of modern slavery in Leicester.
And then you look up the ONS data.
Leicester East.
So this is the data for White British.
33% of Leicester is White British.
Have you noticed a difference between the East and the West?
So over here it's like 60%, and over here... How low does that go?
3%.
Leicester East is where all the slavery is.
It's where the slave factories are in Leicester.
I like how this is like almost like an apartheid city as well.
Yeah.
All the white people on one side.
And then all of the, literally just Indians.
80%, 60%, 70%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a population thing.
And, um, this, this is one of the aspects of mass immigration.
I don't think we've talked about enough.
That's why I'm bringing it up.
But yeah, it's not cheap, just to mention as well.
This is a Dutch study that found that they were spending 17 billion a year.
So God knows what we're spending a year.
Too much.
And this is what brings me to the Estonian solution.
Boys, I have come up with a new policy.
What is it?
I've stolen it.
Okay.
To be honest.
Where have you stolen it from and what is it?
So the Estonians were occupied by the Soviets in 1940.
Where the Soviets just said, oh, let us put a military base in.
Trust me, bro.
You won't get annexed, bro.
And then they just annexed.
That old trick, eh?
Yeah.
So when Estonia got independence from the USSR, they'd obviously been colonized by the Russians.
You can see here, it's a graph of the ethnic data.
So before the forties, there was only 8% Russians.
And then all of a sudden it jumped all the way up to 30% just before the USSR collapsed.
And then post-independence, obviously they claim that if you do illegal things, that doesn't make it law.
So, you colonizing us and forcing Russians in.
Actually, that's wrong.
We're drawing a line under it, and none of those people are Estonian, and they're not going to be recognized as Estonian citizens.
So then you can see afterwards, a lot of Russians either left or had to become Estonian by learning the Estonian language, etc.
And this chat mentions they didn't go quite as far as actually the logical ends, which is deporting non-Estonians.
But that is a policy point they did, and as you can see, it worked.
At least 7% of the Russian group has now dropped from the height of 30 to now 23.
So it does actually function.
You can actually win back your ethnostate by just...
Well, Estonia is based on the ethnicity of Estonians.
Of course.
Yeah.
What else is it?
And the details of this are pretty funny.
So I just wanted to have a cursory look at the Wikipedia page because, uh, deep research boys.
And there's some other weird factors.
So the Russians actually offered Russian citizenship to all USSR citizens.
So that makes it easier, of course.
But the UN turned up and said that the Estonians were being racist against Russians for this.
And the Estonian government just said, yes.
And that was the end of the conversation.
I imagine the UN would take a very different line in this day and age, wouldn't it?
You're not being racist enough against Russians.
But yeah, they would.
But this is the reality of politics, international politics, which is you're the UN, you're the EU, I don't care.
We run our country and the UK can obviously do the similar situation.
And I'm just going to say it.
I think there's a case for an Estonian type law that just picks 1997 as the year in which we draw a line.
Just anyone who came afterwards.
I don't know.
I feel like what happened to us was illegal, not in the manifestos of any of the parties that did it.
And therefore, we should just draw a line and say no.
Anyone who wasn't in Britain before 1997 gets deported, even if you're British.
If you can't trace your lineage to before 1997, Being in Britain.
I think, yeah.
There is actually a case for putting Tony Blair in The Hague and trying him for crimes not only against humanity, but the British.
And this being it.
You've got very spicy over the new year, haven't you?
Well, I'm just putting out a policy point.
Just want to see what people think about that.
Which, um, I mean, look at that immigration graph.
That is just mental.
Just like 1997, then something happened.
Houses became unaffordable.
And then, I mean, these guys just I mean, maybe a show trial is in order for them, but that's a whole other ordeal.
But anyway, I just wanted to also make the point that obviously... Look at what happened during COVID and after.
Some people went home, didn't they?
Yeah, some people said we weren't meeting the annual goals for it, so let's double down next year.
I'm not too hopeful that the people in charge will actually emblack this law.
I think it has become outside of the Conservative Party, obviously.
Because you can see where the Conservative Party members actually live.
This is Jacob Rees-Mogg.
This is his homeland.
For him, diversity means one Irishman and two Europeans.
still too many look at this i just like anywhere else in the country this is impossible it's comically that's just where that describes most of the places i i visited growing up when i left the west country it was like me leaving the shire coming to swindon was like going to mordor but it is it is What do you mean?
Because 98.6%, 0.4% makes 99 and 100.01%.
Yeah, it's 0.1% rounded because we're dealing with such small numbers that it's a slight error.
But as you can see it's 0.0.
makes 99 and 100.01%.
Yeah, it's 0.1% rounded because we're dealing with such small numbers there.
It's a slight error.
But as you can see, it's 0.0.
It's like a tip.
Yeah.
Statistical tip.
0.0% Bangladeshi, 0.0% Chinese, 0.0% Indian, 0.0% Pakistani, et cetera, et cetera.
This is where Jacob Rees-Mogg lived.
This is the really posh rich guy who thinks diversity is great.
And then, um, well, doesn't live near any of it.
Diversity literally means an Irishman to him.
And then there's other places in England, which, um, yeah, I feel like the Estonian solution would probably deal with.
I mean, this area, 0.0% white English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish or British.
I mean, how did that happen?
I mean, that's how it happened?
Yes.
Which, getting back to the Estonians, I mean, yeah.
Yeah, having suddenly 30% of your country become a foreign ethnicity that's been colonized into your land.
I feel like if the Estonians can do it, I don't know why we can't.
I don't know what the argument is.
We're not allowed.
Well, the person who lives here is not going to do it.
Don't get me wrong.
But when it comes to actual law, I mean, the UN turned it to Estonia and just got told to bugger off.
I don't know why we can't do that as well.
But there we are.
A white paper.
Discuss.
Enjoy this.
I think it's a good idea.
All right.
Let's move to the comments then.
Hi, Lotus Eaters.
This question is for Dan, who's on the podcast today, and I hope that you get that comment.
He's not. - Yeah.
I would like to sell my art for Bitcoin but I really actually don't know where to start reaching out to the community and even Doing it.
Would you be able to maybe do a podcast all about how to get Bitcoin, how to get started, how to roll in those waters?
I'd love to learn more about it.
And I love all of your segments.
They're great.
You're great.
You guys are all great.
Thank you.
He's not here.
I'm going to send a message and make sure that it gets played for Dan, rather than us, because I can't tell you a damn thing about Bitcoin, so I'm going to be useless.
But good luck with your art venture, anyway.
Fair enough.
Yeah, boys.
Ping time.
one round there it is People listening, we're just watching people shoot M1 grounds every episode now, because I like the ping.
He likes the ping.
Yeah, we like the ping.
Let's go to the next one.
So I recently was able to add another pistol to my collection.
This is a East German Walther.
It was made in secret.
It was sent to Ethiopia.
Ethiopia has become like a dumping ground for a lot of historical firearms over the years, and we've been just importing them like crazy in the US.
Here's a West German Walther.
It's here, it's the printed West German.
And here's an East German Makarov, the official pistol for East Germany.
It's very cool.
I like how we've just got lots of guns in the video comments.
Keep this up, I like that.
I agree.
It's good fun.
Oh boy, this is gonna be good.
Steamboat willing on screen.
Come get me, you sons of bitches!
I'm very confused.
I'm very confused.
So, um, Steamboat Willie's out of copyright, so overnight he became a far-right meme.
And now he's the new Pepe.
Oh no!
There we are.
Oh, it's the original Mickey Mouse, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, we've got the written comments, I suppose.
So, Carrie says, back to my usual routine, tuning into the Lotus Seas every lunchtime after a boozy Christmas in Dublin with the in-laws.
I will officially be able to call them that soon as we are engaged.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
They seemed happy to welcome a heathen right-winged conspiracy nut.
That's cool.
Would the Lotus Seas crew be interested in a selection of the Isle of Man They actually have their own language?
for you guys to try some Manx offerings.
Wishing everyone a great 2024.
We need a good year.
Or in Manx, Blind Villeneuve.
They actually have their own language?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
That was very nice.
We're always happy to have gin.
I mean, we have Lads Hour.
That's probably where we will drink it.
I know Connor likes gin.
I drink gin.
In fact, I probably drank too much over Christmas, which is probably why I was sick for most of it, but still.
Fair enough.
Okay, I've got to read some comments.
So, Captain Charlie the Beagle says, regarding the war on tourism, as someone that works in the tourist industry and lives in a well-known tourist destination, I for one am happy to see the pushback.
We have another issue of what was best described as the open-cast mining of culture, where every aspect of our culture has been commodified.
That's certainly part of it, isn't it?
However, I feel A lot of this over-tourism is a direct consequence of the results of lockdowns where people couldn't leave the country, certainly.
As such there is a big rush for people to travel abroad.
Hopefully this will level out over time as people get the travel bug out of their system or when the economy crunch comes.
That's very true and I also thought The juxtaposition for locals between lockdowns when it's nice and quiet.
And then all of a sudden a bigger rush than ever before would be very stark in the, um, in the sort of Southwest.
I noticed how nice and quiet everywhere was.
Like you didn't have all these people everywhere and it was just nice.
It was nicer to be there.
And then all of a sudden when it opened up to tourists, it was like, um, you know, 28 days later, just hordes and hordes of brainless flesh eating zombie.
No, um, tourists.
It was a bit like that though.
Kay McClure says tourism makes up 70s on my island GDP, but there is something to be said about quality over quantity.
We can't stand cruise ship tourism.
Don't get me started on the litter.
They cause untold traffic woes in the capital and rarely spend anything whilst on shore.
Air tourism on the other hand is another matter.
They contribute significantly more to the economy.
That being said, the sheer amount of tourism is ridiculous.
Going to the supermarket recently made me feel claustrophobic over the sheer amount of new people.
Shelves bare, roads clogged, beaches covered with people.
It's about balance, but Cayman is struggling to achieve that.
Yeah, it's one of those things where it can be done right, I think, but in many cases it's done poorly.
And my point in doing the segment really was just to get people to think about where they're going.
Don't really have any of the answers.
I don't really know myself.
Henry Ashman says, we need to educate the foreign tourist destinations that they need to be banning the Dino, not Brits in general.
That is true.
Just in general, really.
It's the allergy sketch where it's like, we only get the fit women.
And there's that guard who's just like, fit, fit.
Oi, no, go back.
But that, but Dinos.
Are those Taichunos?
Get back!
We just ask questions about, like, world history.
So everyone comes in on something.
How many hours a night do you watch ITV?
If it's any, you're not allowed in.
Name three of the members of Love Island.
You named one, alright, you're out.
Even, I mean, I can do Chris Williamson.
Modern Wisdom.
Was he on Love Island?
Oh.
Yeah, that's... Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Damn, we're all banned from Spain.
That's alright, I've been there four times already.
Got my fill.
So, Carrie Wernham says, Oh Josh it's jam then cream.
Jam is more adhesive and sticks better to the scone.
Cream acts like a lubricant and makes an awful mess while eating it.
Well, you get nice cream, you spread it on the scone.
And then you wait a little bit and then you put the jam on.
But if you rush into it, it's all wrong.
But this is a science we've worked it out in Devon with our advanced economy over the Cornish.
No, I'm joking.
I don't want to dunk on Cornwall.
I like Cornwall.
Maureen Peter says, in the Netherlands we are diligently trying to rebuff English tourists coming to Amsterdam.
There's a lot of Brits that are coming there to get stoned and start fights in the street when they had too much to drink.
Yeah, that's what we do normally as well.
It isn't that fun when you actually live there.
Also, not every girl is a prostitute.
I dress modestly and still people try to buy my services several times.
That must be really demeaning.
I'm laughing but I feel quite sorry for you actually, that sounds horrible.
Not nice, don't get me wrong, but it is Amsterdam.
I was half expecting your sentence to go, not all of us are prostitutes, just most of us, that's fine.
Well, I can certainly say that many British tourists, a significant number are the kind of people who are drunk and louts and cause chaos.
One of my brother's mates, one of them, and they told me a story that they went down to the dam and one of them was boasting that he got a blowjob from a woman for five euros.
That's not really a thing to brag about at all.
On every metric, even if the person's not judging them for using a prostitute.
That's a very cheap one.
Yeah, because when you start thinking about it, you're like, good God.
I mean, all the teeth missing or something.
How do you do for five euros?
She was really good.
She said she'd been doing it for 80 years.
I don't know.
There was actually a woman, I think it was in Blackpool, who was literally an old woman with no teeth.
She got done for indecent exposure and then defended in court by saying it was all in my mouth.
It's just like... Oh, what a terrible day to have ears.
I didn't need to know that.
Did you see recently that in the news, in Blackpool, they said, oh, Blackpool Tower's on fire, oh no!
It's the Eiffel Tower of the North!
And then they realised it was just a piece of plastic flapping in the wind that was orange at the top of the tower.
And, like, they had the fire brigade, the police cordoned it off.
It's like, it's just a bit of plastic.
Like, I know we have a stereotype that Northerners are stupid, but... Are we?
That is pretty stupid.
I didn't know we had that.
You don't know?
No.
Oh, alright.
When you hear their accent, you think, oh god, you must have never gone to school, you've had a hard life.
I think that about most people, Callum.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
I'm only joking, by the way.
Sophie Liv says, don't know with you guys, but when I go somewhere, I never want to go to the tourist spots anyway because they're never going to experience the real country I wholeheartedly agree with that.
I want to go there to experience the culture, to see the history, to have an appreciation of the place.
Maybe go to a nice restaurant there.
I don't want to go to a tourist trap where it's horrible.
She says there is tourist Mexico and real Mexico.
They are not the same.
Cancun and the small village of Sancta Paula, or is it meant to be Saint Paula?
I don't know, are two very different experiences.
For one thing, the people in Paula kept looking very weirdly at me and asked what on earth I was doing there.
That's my kind of place.
I like going to places where they ask you, so where are you from exactly?
I want to be accused.
I suppose I'll do one more.
Alex Ogle, be careful about gentrification Josh.
There are coastal villages in Cornwall and Devon where the houses are owned by Emmets and Grockles.
Nice use of The terminology, I can tell you're a local.
Towns look very peaceful and tidy, but that's only because most of the time there's no one there.
Gentrification is okay so long as people are moving in to make the place vibrant.
The villages are just empty.
No, I think the second home thing in the West Country is pretty bad and, you know, there's a reason that Londoner is a byword and a slur.
It's basically like wanker for people who do farming.
That's like our term, although I'm not a farmer.
But still, it's sort of a West Country thing.
Anyway, I've read enough.
Okay, President Gay No More.
Le French Plagiarist.
Rumor goes that the resignation letter was plagiarized.
Yeah.
A.
Arizona desert rat.
A student can be kicked out of a university for plagiarism, so why wouldn't a professor get kicked out?
That double standard is disgusting.
It's not a professor, it's a woke leftist professor.
Baron Von Warhawk.
The same people who claim silence is violence are the same people who have no problems calling for the genocide of the whites and the Jews and sometimes the Asians.
They're truly scum.
However, the most important factor in the story is that Gay was only fired because she was caught in camera.
I'm guessing the majority of Harvard stuff are just like her and only fired her because that interview was just such a public relations blunder.
Exactly.
Yes.
And they did it after the funding was withdrawn and the funding was withdrawn for that reason.
That's a great point.
She was the only one that's on camera.
Yeah.
Imagine if you see the rest of them on camera 24 seven.
It's not a speculation.
We're going to bring back a third Harvard.
We joke sometimes about, you know, right-wing memes are the edge or something.
If you could get access to those people's phones or those circles to listen to how they talk about us.
A lot of them are expressing a high opinion of Marxism.
They're Marxists, but they're open about it.
Sure, but when they tweet, all I want for Christmas is white genocide, the headline is like, Professor tweets, all I want for Christmas is white genocide.
That's not unusual.
That's actually the norm.
That's their choice for their sort of public facing statements.
Who knows what they're saying behind closed doors is what you're trying to get at.
Yeah, I guess it depends on the context.
No, no, I think it goes really, really radical and foreign.
It's just them who do it.
I'm sure she only wants her symbolic genocide.
Yeah.
So, Kevin Fox, Professor Gay's resignation letter said she was stepping down because she couldn't breathe.
Grant Gibson, you guys are wrong about university salaries.
They're baked in raise and merit review processes that give you percentage increase.
Merit, in this case.
To make the math easy, suppose you started at $100,000, then you get 1.8% two years in a row.
Then you get 1.8% two years in a row.
You're now at 103,632.40.
You might get a flat rate bonus for being a department chair or dean, but that round number added to a non-round number is how you end up with a somewhat random total.
Thanks, Grant.
Furious Dan, if non-specific antisemitism is okay at Harvard, they might be interested in some German World War II art.
There are some nice paintings, to be fair.
Depending on the context, she may like it.
Gay may like it.
Okay.
JJHW, did someone pray the gay away?
Apparently so.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's go to the Estonian solution.
Sure.
So, Ruda Day says Estonia is the only real country in the Baltics.
That's the bar now.
So, I don't know.
I've never been to Estonia.
I've wanted to go.
I think Tallinn looks nice.
After my segment panning tourism, I can't go now.
I've got to stay.
I've heard wonderful things about it and that it's very... There's going to be no one there, so you'll be fine.
That's true.
Sorry.
No, no.
I've heard really good things about it and that it's very technologically advanced.
They've got flying cars.
No, you're right, actually.
I've heard this too.
No, sincerely.
They have like a tech sector that's really desirable because cheap labor, but highly educated.
Although I heard a thing about Latvia.
Because obviously you know the SS Latvian division that was raised there.
Prolific yeah.
And they sort of well they got colonized by the Soviets so they hate them and they still hate them.
So they look at World War 2 in a different light.
I do want to go see if that's real because I don't know if you've seen like every year the descendants of the Latvian SS division like put on a big show and it's like I've known a few Latvians, and they've all been very nice.
I'd be surprised if they were Nazis.
Have you ever asked them about Adolf Hitler?
Funnily enough, it didn't come up.
Godwin's Law doesn't tend to be met that often, except in this office, it seems.
I mean, even this podcast.
Came up on Afghanistan.
That was weird.
Well, they all love Hitler, because they're just like, well, we hate communism.
Yeah, that's a weird one.
There are plenty of people that are opposed to communism.
You don't see them celebrating Ronald Reagan, do you?
Even though he gave them guns.
Yeah, well.
Yeah, American devil, I suppose.
Anyway, Taffy Duck says, Callum, you didn't steal the Estonian solution, you enriched it, while preparing for your own tenure at a prestigious American university.
Yeah, I'm not black a woman enough, sadly.
Baron Von Warhawk says, Incredibly, someone in the UK government thought letting in an ISIS supporter back into the country was a good idea, showing you that the government has learned nothing from the lessons of Manchester when the price of turning a blind eye to a Middle Eastern crook was paid for with the blood of children.
Call me crazy, but I don't think an ISIS supporter coming back to the UK is just here to visit Legoland or Stonehenge.
Watch your back, boys.
Trouble's coming.
He'll like Legoland because, um, Lego characters, you can take their heads off.
So, you know, he'll like them being a fan of Isis and all that.
I don't know if, um, Mr. Warhawk knows, but that was eerily similar to an FBI note.
So the FBI found out that the 9-11 hijackers were in the country before they did 9-11, but they were on the watch list already.
So when they found out they were in the country, but they didn't know where, one of them sends a message to the head of the FBI saying, he's not here to come to fucking Disneyland.
I thought you were going to say they all went to LEGOLAND beforehand.
Was there a LEGOLAND in America?
I don't know.
Maybe.
Anyway.
But, yeah.
I'm going to look it up.
You're not wrong.
There may be something coming.
Lord Nero... I think there were a series of terrorist attacks actually that were tried on New Year's but foiled.
There's a LEGOLAND in California, by the way.
Sorry, this isn't nearly as pressing as terrorist attacks, but... I do want to go to LEGOLAND California now.
I'm sorry, I'm derailing you.
How much is it?
I didn't check the price!
I like LEGOLAND.
I've been to the UK one, like, 10 times.
That many?
Yeah, it's great.
I used to go as a kid all the time.
I've been, like, once.
Well, I got depressed when I was, like, 13, and my parents were just like, we're taking the LEGOMAN.
Did it work?
Yeah.
They got rid of LEGO racers, which is crap.
Anyway.
Let's have a look.
JJHW says let the Anglos from other countries return to the Motherland.
Yep, that's also a white paper I fully endorse.
And Desert Rat just says guns, which is a good message, if nothing else.
So, $99 per person for a two-day ticket, starting at... Two days?
Yeah.
Or you can do $79 for a day pass.
Why would you take two days to go around a Legoland?
I don't know, maybe it's big?
Okay, well, I have some research to do.
That's your next video, Calum.
Travel to Legoland in California.
Full Star Wars soy face, it's just I love Lego.
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