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Dec. 19, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #816
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, in which I'm joined by Stelios and Bo.
Hi.
And this is a pre-record because I don't want to work on Christmas or any of that week.
So we're not doing that.
So we're instead doing a continuation of the roundups of the year that we're doing.
So this, I believe, is the third quarter in which we're going through the months and reminding ourselves of what happened.
So, I suppose we shall begin with July, which was a month.
Not much happened in July, I'll be honest, looking back at it.
It wasn't that big of a thing, but there were a couple of things that were big, at least a couple of stories that were actual proper news, and then there's a lot of fun.
I'm more of a fun guy, as I'm sure people are aware.
We'll start off with the big news.
This was the big news at the time, which is that the French warned that they were going to turn into a civil war.
And this was a bunch of French generals writing a letter, just being like, hey, remember how we wrote to you before?
And said there was going to be a civil war?
Yeah, it's time.
Things are going bad.
And this was because, as you can see here, well, that prophecy ended up coming true because a teenager was shot dead by the police because they told him to stop the car.
He went, no, lamelle, and drove the car at them, so they shot him.
And of course, this was a crime against diversity and the global BAME race.
So there were massive uprisings in France against the French government and French people.
Because... criminal?
Yeah.
It's the way it goes.
It's really weird where everyone has to read all sorts of narratives within specific events.
Yeah.
They have to make it a class thing or a class conflict thing.
Weird.
Or in this case, a race thing.
Don't you know the French police hate brown people?
Why?
Because they shot a criminal who was endangering them.
Yeah, not the best argument.
It's very silly.
There are a few life lessons that you need to learn.
You know, like, don't jab a knife into a toaster that's on.
Yep.
Don't drop a toaster that's plugged in into a bath that you're sitting in.
Things like that, you know.
Don't look down the barrel of a loaded gun, see if it's plugged with mud or something like that.
Do what armed police tell you to do, is one of them.
Or don't run over... Whatever they're saying to do, you do it.
Don't use your car to run people over.
Yep, that's another good one.
You're entirely right, just deal with the police, sue them after they've done something wrong.
Unless you're a partisan, fighting ze Germans, like, what are you doing?
And not even armed police, all police.
When you're in the line of sight, or you're in their presence, Just do whatever they're telling you to do, even if it's unfair.
Even if it's illegal, because then you can sue them after and get cash.
You kind of got to, because it's not in your interest to not do that.
If there's armed police there and they're aiming guns at you...
And they're telling you to do anything.
Just do it.
This was on an instance like we've seen in America where there's like a drunk guy who was given five different orders from an armed police officer who then shot him.
They didn't make any sense.
That's murder.
No, this was a guy who was told to stop the car.
He went no and then died.
So there we are.
That's a nice start to the month, which is France doing French things.
But the big story of that month for me, and I think for everyone, was this.
Diversity cries.
Because the United States Supreme Court finally got the court case of, I think, the decade where they had to decide whether or not diversity hires were unconstitutional.
And of course they went, no, that sounds constitutional.
That's retarded.
You can't hire people just because I want the blackest woman.
And then the best part of this was the fact that, of course, the blackest womanest woman you'd ever seen had just been picked to be on the Supreme Court by Joe Biden to be a black woman.
So, of course, she voted no.
She said it was fine and didn't even turn up For the conversation.
So Justice Thomas wrote one paragraph about how clearly this was unconstitutional, and then wrote five pages just shitting on her.
Just being like, she's an awful person, she doesn't understand anything, and it was like... That was good.
That was a good time, I think.
The Supreme Court in America is so unbelievably pivotal, it's weird.
When you look into the nature of the American state, how it works, really, Lots of it pinches on whether the Supreme Court works properly.
It kind of doesn't.
Sorry?
It kind of doesn't though.
I mean it does function on it, but I mean the Supreme Court doesn't really work properly.
Because the way it works is just whichever majority of ideological people are there, that suddenly becomes what the Constitution said, trust me bro, until there's a new group of ideological people running it.
Like the Supreme Court in the 19th century said slavery is okay and child labor is okay.
And then later, decades later, said actually no, it's not.
It's not.
And so whatever they say really goes, they can basically interpret the constitution.
So it's so important.
So to try and pack it with partisans or race baiters or something, it's the most insidious thing that Democrats have done, in my opinion.
There's a great historian, Anastasia Cook, English historian, talks all about that.
Look him up on the Supreme Court.
It's fascinating stuff.
I'm sure there's a YouTube video of it.
What I find a bit amazing is that the Democrats, the woke Democrats, they're trying to say sometimes that they are constitutional, but if they are clearly not, and some judges are saying that you are unconstitutional, then they blame the Constitution as bigoted.
It's a document created by bigotry.
So it's really weird why, on the one hand, they want to have the conversation.
It shows that, for them, it's just all a facade.
They want to appear as if they are, let's say, friendly towards some people, let's say, who are undecided, the swing voters who may have really warm sentiments towards the Constitution, but it doesn't seem to me to show their actual sentiments with respect to it.
But the end result is that now it is unconstitutional in the United States.
So the universities in question had to stop hiring, well, accepting black applicants who shouldn't have been there and rejecting Asian applicants who should have been there.
Because really white people weren't really part of the conversation.
Yeah, it really screws over.
High achieving Asians, it really screws over, right?
Yeah, that was the de facto actual conversation going on.
So, there we are.
I would be interesting to see if Academic Agent's theory is correct, that, of course, culture is downstream from law.
Because this is a pretty good example of the law just explicitly saying, no, you can't just hire people for being black or woman because you like black or woman.
That's stupid.
That's not constitutional.
To all the institutions in the United States.
To see if the American culture actually reigns back in some of this.
As he puts it, put the woke away.
That sounds a bit reductionist in this case because you have many cases where people are putting forward some laws and the people don't want it and they rebel or they engage in actions of civil disobedience.
Oh, for sure.
I'm not here to reiterate.
There is an effect.
There is a likelihood that if something is a law, a lot of people do treat it as sacrosanct.
I don't think it's a fail-safe thing.
So I won't reiterate all of Academic Agent's argument because we've been here too long, but the fundamental part is essentially not the politicians but the legal system.
Yes, but isn't there a distinction between law and law enforcement?
Because I think most of the problem is with enforcing existing law.
Maybe, but I don't want to get into all that.
But that was the big story.
I think that probably was the biggest story of the month.
After that, I was going through all the segments we did, and really the big interesting things for me were just kind of the fluff bollocks that happened throughout that month that were weirdly consequential in a strange way.
So we'll start off with this one, I suppose, which is the absolute death of iDubbbz.
As a figure, just, he's now completely gone.
And, uh, that was the month where it finally ended, I think, for anyone who thought that he might come back one day and stop being retarded and start being, I don't know, interesting again, if nothing else.
You may remember he basically went on an apology tour, where he was like, I'm so sorry for saying jokes.
I'll never do it again.
Please, please forgive me.
And, uh, the reason any of this happened is because he met a transgender fan who said the phrase, Oh, I'm just going to assume you don't like trans people, but that's okay with me to take a selfie with him.
And he took that, instead of correcting them, because obviously he doesn't have a problem with that, he decided that his whole career was evil and throw it into the dumps.
And it seemed to have been mostly catalyst-like made from the fact that he has a girlfriend who's just bullying him, which was just an end of an era, really.
It was just the end of fun YouTubers, like the old breed, who just like to be edgy and have fun.
He was really the last one who was big and is now, well, gone.
There we are.
End of an era for YouTube, at least.
Anyway, some other stories that were good fun.
So, there's this one, which turned out that a lot of black feminists love white cock, which is a rather crude way of putting it, but it turned out to be true.
Like, we literally went through the most prominent feminist black Americans, and every single one of them has a white husband, we discovered.
It was like, huh.
All these people have spent all their time whining about whiteness and white supremacy, and how white men feel so entitled.
All of them have white husbands.
Okay.
I know AOC's got a white husband, doesn't she?
She is one of them, yeah.
Look at Harry there.
The old times.
Yeah.
I mean, Harry does sort of change with the seasons.
He comes and goes.
He's a good feature.
It's not the only thing.
There was good, well, I suppose, research.
He looks like a musketeer.
One of the three musketeers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We should get the sword for Christmas.
But the next big story, I think, of the time was that we found out that you literally can't buy a house.
It's impossible.
Give up.
Just don't bother.
And this was because a local lady came to our attention where she had 50 grand and was trying to buy a house in Cardiff.
And even with that large deposit, she couldn't actually find finance.
It was literally impossible with those circumstances.
I was like, oh, that's, that's pretty tough.
So then we thought, okay, is that really true?
And we did manage to find her a place in the end, which is this one on screen, which, um, yeah, I don't know if she ever took up the offer, but there we are.
We did the investigation.
There is a place where you can buy it and it's that, which is a pretty awful area, but too bad.
Point being, the housing crisis in the UK, I think finally reached peak retardation.
Sorry, that's covered with condensation.
Yes.
Look, she's worked hard.
She deserves it.
But anyway, so there we are.
I mean, things did get worse later in the year, but I'm not here for those months.
It's just for that one, where everyone realized financing was absolutely crazy.
And then the last thing that happened in that month of everyone thought was going to be at least a big consequence, or at least the boomers did, but turned out to be a complete nothing burger fad, is this.
NPC TikTok.
Yeah.
You remember?
Yes, I remember.
I sat there with Dan, and I love Dan, but my god, him and Carl were just like, oh boy, this is going to change everything, this is a massive shift in Zoomer culture, and there's going to be loads of these, and then it instantly died.
What was it?
This must have passed me by.
The NPC fad, you didn't see?
What was it?
I don't know if I can play some for you, and you can enjoy the festivities, which is... I think that this is appropriate for the occasion.
Yeah, let's play. - Kitty boss. - That's awesome.
Is that AI or is that a real person?
It's a real person.
Okay.
Pretending to be AI.
Come on.
Okay, that's what I'm looking at.
Okay, got it.
While we're at this, can you remind me of what they were saying about how this is going to change everything?
And is it just that endlessly?
Yeah.
Okay, I vaguely recall this.
Oh, oh yeah, no.
Did it degenerate quite quickly into like not attractive people doing it?
Yes.
Or like men doing it?
Other men tried it.
Yeah, I recall now.
There are some funny, I suppose, remnants of this stupid fad, which is that I've seen a few guys who are roleplaying as that, but it's a pre-recorded video, and they're pretending to be medieval streamers, and they're just like, oh, Gelwick of Canterbury, thank you for the 25 subs.
It's just like, man, it's the French.
I know.
Yeah, I know.
It's always the French, isn't it?
I think it's... Sorry, sorry, I don't know.
I was just gonna say, I do remember it now, but yeah, it came and went so fast.
What, Karl and Dan thought it would be... Yeah, I just remember... ...going forward.
People didn't get to see the conversations that are in the office as well, but on stream, of course, Dan was just like, man, this is a big shift.
And then Carl for like two days was massively obsessing about, man, this is a big thing.
And I remember the third day when we did a podcast together on it, he was just being, yeah, this is going nowhere.
Keep it this way, because I want to say that if you look at your faces, Dan seems very lucky.
He thinks he's about to find a gold mine in the distance and you're looking there.
It's not gold, mate.
There's just yet another whore, literally, she's a porn star, begging for money on the internet, which was a stupid fad and came and went.
Well, it wasn't the only thing that was a stupid fad that came and went.
I'll end this off, which is, I suppose, the other fluff piece of that month, which became a big thing, which is everyone and their mum had a theory about Barbie, of course.
Which I think it's finally died out.
I haven't watched it.
I just didn't understand why people were so psyched about it.
Yeah, because there was there was a before it was actually released.
There was some theories that would be hyper feminist because a bunch of the behind the scenes stuff was weirdly feminist, although they did end up kicking out that fat comedian that nobody likes the female one.
Fat female comedian.
Jay Bradbury?
No, she's American.
Amy Schumer.
There we are.
She was going to play Barbie and then everyone went.
Come on.
No.
A Netflix Barbie, maybe.
I think she plays everything on Netflix.
I happen to know the actual Barbie fandom, the people who like the old Barbie movies from when they were little girls and then still make edits about it.
That's a whole thing on YouTube.
They were all kind of hyped for the movie to just be good.
And then the movie ended up not being even slightly discussed by the Barbie fandom.
Were they plastic doll aficionados?
No, no, there's like a real community of people who just love Barbie movies, like the old animated ones from the 2000s.
You know, weird subcultures, right?
But they're all like now 20-something women who grew up with those movies and they were really hyped and they have their own YouTube channels, like a million subscribers, all making edits of these old movies.
So I was like, okay, you know, this might be funny, I guess.
And then those people saw the movie and immediately left.
And the only people left talking about the movie were, of course, political people.
They all had their own theories about the Barbie movie.
Because those people, that community, that sounds alright to me.
That's okay.
If he's a little girl... Little girls who like Barbie?
Right, yeah, that's fine.
I'll allow it.
There's nothing weird and perverted and subversive about that.
Yeah, of course.
But from what I gather, I haven't seen the Barbie movie and I've got no intention of watching it.
But from what I gather, it's not what it was about, right?
That fandom, it wasn't trying to... I just wasn't even part of the series.
I mean like, the whole point of the old Barbie movies is Barbie getting with Ken.
And then this new one, Ken didn't end up with Barbie.
It's like My Little Pony or something.
If you as a little kid, little girl, you liked My Little Pony and you've now just grown up into your twenties and you still like My Little Pony.
That's all right.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But it's when it's middle-aged men that insist they love the culture and subcultures to do with my love to play, that's when it's not okay anymore, right?
To be fair, I don't think it was so much people who are bronies, but just everyone political was like, bro, I've got a theory about Barbie.
I think Colin didn't end up releasing his grand theory about Barbie and I still haven't watched it because I just, I watched the movie, I just went, eh.
That was a waste of time.
Well, this story goes on into August, because I'm going to talk about it in a minute.
Oh my God!
Yeah, yeah, I know, right?
But yeah, it's... Well, I'll leave my take to them.
There we are.
A fairly unoffendable July, except a lot of goodwill from diversity hires getting the boot.
And then a lot of just end of an era funny stuff, really.
Hope you enjoyed.
Well, on that, we shall move to August and enjoy the furthering of the story.
OK, well, I've been charged with doing a quick rundown of August and... Serve your sentence.
Yeah.
So this is going out over Christmas, right?
So I hope you enjoy this over Christmas, looking back at the summer.
Anyway, it seems to me, looking back at August, it was actually quite a good month for guests, having guests on.
There's quite a few guests.
Earlier on, the 1st of August, we had the MP Andrew Bridgen on.
He's been on more than once.
And so, you know, it's always good to have him on because, of course, he actually does good work.
He's actually, as an MP, got at least some small amount of power.
He gets a vote in Parliament and, you know, he's sort of a staunchly anti-vaccine guy, isn't he?
Did you see, not in August, but a month or two ago from now, that he did a speech and tried to have a vote about looking into all the anti-vexing stuff and hardly anyone turned up.
The whole chamber was just empty.
Well worse than that, the BBC, who have BBC Parliament, which is a TV channel that just streams Parliament so the public can watch it, decided that that kind of impartiality wasn't there Disgusting.
job anymore and just shoved loads of warnings over it that Andrew Bridgen was wrong and then have now recently had to retract all of that disgusting clearly an enemy of the elite so the honourable Mr. Bridgen is a warrior I wish him absolutely all the best anyway he came on talked to Carl so that was it hopefully we'll have him on again at some point
Obviously the Tories chucked him out and he went to Lawrence Fox's party, didn't he, Reclaim?
Which is a bit odd, but there you go.
I hope he gets re-elected at the next election, but I fear not.
But we'll see.
Good luck to him.
Genuinely, good luck to him.
On the 2nd of December, there was a piece there that I thought was worth mentioning again or going over.
The sheer number, the sheer volume Of Turkish barbers that we see.
Funny thumbnail there.
In August.
2nd of August.
Yeah, what did I say?
I think December.
Oh no, sorry.
On the 2nd of August.
You did a bit, I think, was it your bit?
Might have been Harry's.
But I don't recall.
But we had a police report that came out that just said, hey, you know those Turkish barbers?
Yeah, we think they're fronts for people trafficking and drug trafficking.
And everyone who obviously lives in the real world who has had all those weird barbers set up around them, yeah, we know.
No one's in them!
They're all run by Kurds!
Obviously, yeah.
Yeah, they say they're Turkish, and they're usually not.
They're Kurdish, or they're Syrian, or they're Afghan, or they're anything!
And they're usually Iraqi Kurds, or Syrian Kurds, or Iranian Kurds.
Like, very few actual Kurdish, Turkish Kurds.
Yeah, very few take up, but it's because it just sounds a bit nicer to a normie, that they're Turkish.
He's a bit less, sort of, foreign and alien than I'm from Kurdistan.
Well, if you're from... In Iraq.
Yeah, if you're from Iraqi Kurdistan.
I mean, a few of the conversations I had with those people, and I used to go to those barbers before, I was just like, out the hell with this, I'm finding somewhere.
I don't care where it is.
I ended up finding a Brazilian place.
But one of them, he was telling me about how he remembers because he was there during ISIS rising up.
And I was like, oh yes, what was it like?
And he just went, oh, I don't want to talk about it.
I was like, okay, were you against them or something?
And he was like, it's not, they don't exist.
I was like, what?
He's like, they're not real.
Yeah, it was like, anyway, put that razor down, mate.
I'm happy with the hair.
Did he shave you?
No, I've not went back.
Oh yeah, it's like Kurdistan, it's like around Mosul or northern Iraq.
It's like, isn't that ISIS territory?
Their capital?
Their capital, yeah.
Like Raqqa, Mosul, around where ancient Nineveh was.
Yeah, it's one of the worst hotspots in the world.
And now a lot of them are here running quote-unquote barber shops.
With no customers.
With no customers.
Yet the people that run them seem to quite often park outside in top of the range BMWs and Mercedes and things like that.
In Swindon, just in Swindon, there's loads of them.
Like a dozen, two dozen, I don't know.
Sometimes they're next door to each other.
It's like, obviously it's a front for money laundering, drugs, people smuggling, whatever it is.
I think it's seven at least, within five minutes of walking down.
Right, yeah.
Yeah.
Easily, yeah.
Easily.
And across the whole of Swindon.
It's just loads.
It's so obvious.
And yet our authorities don't seem to care.
Don't seem to do anything about it.
They're complicit in it on some level, of course.
What is there on the thumbnail?
What's going on?
That's a man in San Francisco, I believe.
Yeah.
I feel like on that, I feel like when you've got a big enough homeless population, they just relieve themselves on the street.
And if it's a big enough problem, then you just get a A turdpocalypse, or a poonami, or whatever you'd want to call it.
I remember in this segment, you had a link, a satellite link or satellite picture of San Francisco and the location of each of the pieces of excrement on the map.
Yeah, there's various maps set up by tech nerds who wanted to find out how bad it was and now kind of regret making that map.
Because it was a map just full.
Yeah, there's no point in making a map, it's literally just take out felt tip pen, that's brown, and just shade in the city, and you've got your map.
Yeah, because, you know, back in the day, you know, in the 60s, 70s, or even 80s or whatever, San Francisco had a reputation for being lovely.
Being really, really nice.
Like, the Bay Area was known for being beautiful, if anything.
And now...
What the Democratic Party have done to it.
Terrible.
On the 4th of August, we had in Mr Peter Whittle.
He's been on a number of times, a friend of the podcast, and he's always great.
He's always got a number of base takes.
I really like Peter Whittle.
From New Culture Forum?
Yeah, he's the face of New Culture Forum.
They've actually got, a bit like Lotus, it's not just him anymore, he's got a bunch of lads on there.
I think Connor's been on there.
And anyway, I watch that sometimes.
It's quite good.
It's sort of doing a similar thing to us, adjacent to us in some ways.
And Peter Whittle's Twitter account is also quite good.
Again, we're just being pretty based, saying stuff.
On the 7th of August, I came back with the Barbie thing.
You don't have much to say on that, do you?
Well, I'll just tell people my take on it.
Okay, fair enough.
I just think the whole thing's a stupid, stupid embarrassment.
I don't want to be too hardline on this, but there was a bit of a schism in the office about whether... just some behind-the-scenes stuff for people.
Some people in the office thought it was an interesting, good story, Karl and Connor and a few others.
And some thought it was more or less indifferent to it.
And some thought it was an embarrassment really.
I was one of those.
It's just a nonsense, even if there is sort of an angle there about it being actually secretly based or some crap.
It's just nonsense.
It's just a distraction.
Nothing more than that.
And I don't know why we really spent, as an organisation, spent time and energy on it.
That's my take.
You didn't hear me say anything about it at the time, I never tweeted anything about it one way or the other, but that is my feelings on it.
So it came up again.
It's not that deep, it's certainly not important at all.
Like the Culture Wars stuff, I just don't... because like iDubbbz, I don't really know who iDubbbz is.
I let a lot of this stuff pass me by.
You've got to be in the scene for that, and then if you're not...
Like that AI girl, I'd completely forgotten about that.
There's loads of stuff, quite often something in the news cycle come up and it's someone that's like a really important influencer.
They've got millions and millions of followers and they've done or said something.
And I'm like, I've never, never heard of this person.
I feel like a bit of a boomer, but you know, I don't mind, it's fine.
I think it depends on the influencer, right?
Because if it's someone who's political or has done something interesting, like it's, it's kind of cool.
But when it's some guy who mostly makes like Minecraft videos, Has said something that's a bit raunchy.
It's like, I couldn't give that's for crap.
I'm not watching Minecraft videos.
I'm not 12 anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
That's the thing with a Barbie.
I'm not a girl.
I was never a little girl.
I don't care about Barbie on any level.
Um, so like, for example, in the, in the new Circles day, and this is, uh, early December, we're talking about when this has been recorded.
There's something about destiny and I'm vaguely aware of the name of destiny.
This person, this online influence person, but I've never ever watched any of their content ever.
I don't really know, don't really know who they are, right?
He's a debate bro.
Is he?
Yeah.
Right, okay.
I don't think he ever leaves America, he just debates.
Well the take I saw when I was scrolling through something or other is that he's a true moron.
That doesn't narrow it down.
His general knowledge was laughably bad.
I saw someone say he'd never heard of Franco.
I assume General Francisco Franco.
He didn't know the proper name for the United States of America.
Stuff like that, like real sort of borderline retarded levels.
Anyway, these things come up.
I mean, well surely, how can you be an adult at 30 something and not know that?
America is called the United States.
How is that possible, you know?
Anyway.
Just the way you put it was funny to me, sorry.
But quite often someone will come up and I just, not only don't I know who they are, I've got no intention of finding out even.
Like with this Barbie thing, it was quite a thing for a while in August, wasn't it?
July and August.
It was all over Twitter and the internet and people talking about it and loads and loads of videos on YouTube got made by all sorts of people.
And I just let it all wash over me.
I just could not be less interested.
How do you feel about the notion that I've heard people use Unstoppable, Ken or G?
They just came and went.
That's my full reaction to it.
Yeah.
Just that.
Yeah, Ken and Ken or G and all that sort of thing.
But then, you know, I'm like a history nerd.
I've not really watched hardly any of the Harry Potter films.
I certainly haven't read any of the books.
I've got no intention of doing that.
I'll be re-reading Gibbon or something.
Or Charles Oman.
I just haven't got time.
When you actually read quite a lot, it's quite a time-consuming thing.
You read loads, don't you?
It's a time-consuming thing.
You've got to pick and choose what you're going to read, what you're going to really spend your time on.
I made a choice back then.
When I was really young, I read the fourth Harry Potter and then I went to Lord of the Rings and I couldn't go back to Harry Potter again.
I know some people maybe hate me, but I mean, after Lord of the Rings, you can't go back to things like that.
That's how I see it.
I love Harry Potter, the movies.
I'm never reading the books, don't care.
But I will agree with you, if you didn't grow up with it, I don't know if there's much in it for a person.
Well, I was already in my early 20s, I must have been, I suppose, when the first book came out, something like that.
I'm now a middle-aged man.
It's like, I'm not gonna go back and read the Harry Potter books.
There's nothing in it.
It's no value to me, I'm afraid.
I don't want to needlessly alienate some massive Harry Potter fans out there.
But anyway, I've got more important things to be reading.
I need to re-read some Socratic dialogues to make a bit of content for this or something.
I'm not going to delve into the subculture of Barb.
I'll move on, I'll move on.
What's the next thing?
Oh, Vobes!
On the 8th of August we had in Mr Richard Vobes, Vobesy.
Now, I was on that one.
There we go, there we go.
Now I do want to issue a slight bit of an apology or an explanation because I was sort of slated to go on the podcast that day and I decided that what I was going to do a bit about was sort of doomers, accelerationists and boomers, boomer doomers, like don't be a boomer doomer, don't be a doomer in general,
And I had no idea that Mr. Vobes is a tiny little bit that way inclined, or his thinking is that there's no point voting particularly, you should take yourselves out and go to rural communities and deal with the destruction of our civil society in that way.
So when I was doing my bit, towards the end we had, not exactly crossed words, but we disagreed a little bit.
Which was fine.
It wasn't a problem.
There's no reason to apologize for that.
I remember watching it.
I didn't see it as hostile.
Oh good.
And afterwards I said to him, that wasn't meant to be any sort of personal attack on you.
And he took it very well.
I genuinely believe him when he said, oh no, I didn't take it that way.
Nonetheless, nonetheless.
It could have looked like that we got him in for me to sort of do that to him, and that's absolutely not how it went.
That's not why it happened, because I think he's great.
I think Vobes is great.
I'd love to have him back on.
So I don't think there was any sort of bad blood or anything like that, but I just did want to absolutely set the record straight that there's not even a hint of that's what was going on.
In fact, it was, I thought, quite a good exchange between me and him.
I was saying, no, come on, we need to sort of We can, it is possible to solve.
I think you made a good point because if on the one hand there are people who are criticizing government for being too interfering on the one hand and on the other hand they say just go and live in communities, there is the obvious question that you raised that how do you think they're not going to interfere with you in these communities?
But I appreciate what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah.
Short of paramilitaries being formed and actually storming parliament and stuff.
Well, you've got to vote yourself out of it though, because you won't be left alone in your communes and things.
So anyway, that was that.
I do hope we can get Richard Phobes back on at some point.
There you go.
What else?
On the 11th we had the lovely Freya India came in.
There she is.
I didn't actually end up... you were on it with Harry, right?
It was Harry, myself and her.
So I only watched a few clips of that.
I didn't really watch the whole thing, but how did that go?
Was that alright?
It was a really good discussion and she has really good things and insightful things to say about Modern relations between women and men and especially young people.
And it was a really good podcast.
And I remember that was the day with the lesbian nana incident.
Oh, the first incident.
Yeah, so we had plenty of stuff to talk about.
Cool.
Well, let's see what else.
On the 15th, there was an interesting bit where Dan did a segment about the nuking of Japan.
A sort of current affairs segment.
Yeah, right.
Dan discusses if it's a good idea to nuke Japan.
Was it justified?
Yeah, so obviously that's a little bit in my wheelhouse, sort of history-themed, and I'm fascinated, of course, by World War II and also by the war in the Pacific.
I have actually done quite a lot of reading about the war in the Pacific, about America versus Japan.
And of course, you can't look at any of that stuff without, you know, ending up having a decent look at all the politics and arguments around the using of the atom bomb in August 1945.
And so, in the office behind the scenes earlier that day, or the day before, Dan told me, I sit next to Dan, He was going to do it and we sort of bounced a few ideas off each other and it's a difficult thing.
It's one of those arguments, it's one of those topics in history that whatever you say, whichever side of the argument you come down on, there's going to be a decent chunk of people that quite vehemently disagree with you.
I think he did quite well, to be perfectly honest, on it.
My take on it, if anyone's interested, super briefly, is just that it's one of those things where What people were thinking at the time is, you have to take that into account, when you look back at it in retrospect, it's massively distorted.
Just look at what Truman said, his speech at the time.
He said stuff like, look into the camera and say, I'm prepared to destroy every single Japanese person.
I'm barely paraphrasing.
America back in World War 2 was a hell of a place.
We spent a lot of guys on Iwo Jima and Okinawa and stuff.
And if I have to destroy every Japanese building and every person then that's what's going to happen.
You're going to get a surrender.
Let's get through the rest.
Do we need to go all the way up to...
We're still doing an hour and a half total here?
No, it's just I thought we should move on a little bit.
All right, fair enough.
I've only got a few more left here to go through.
On the 18th, we had Peter McElvenna in.
He's also another very base gentleman.
It was nice to speak to him, a little bit at least, behind the scenes in the office beforehand.
He's always got some sort of very interesting takes.
Do you remember particularly what he was doing for you on the podcast with him that day?
I wasn't that day on the podcast.
I've worked with him a fair bit.
He's a personal assistant to Lord Pearson, but also runs Hearts of Oak.
Of course he's Hearts of Oak, of course he's right.
Yeah, he used to work a lot back in the UKIP days for everyone as well.
So he's got some proper expertise about how things actually function.
Yeah.
I remember him in the office behind the scenes talking about people just throwing around ideas like we do, and him saying, actually no, that couldn't quite work because of this reality and things.
And everyone's like, oh yeah, fair enough, you're right there, I can't argue with that.
So he's got an interesting mind on him.
I mean, Jones lying again, I can't recall exactly what it was that time, but that's That doesn't sound like news.
If he was sincere, it would be news.
Right, yeah.
That would be noteworthy if he happened to be sincere at some point.
On the 22nd, There was a piece all about rich men north of Richmond, which incidentally, very recently again, at the beginning of December, on Twitter, I just happened to put, I don't think that's a very good song in hindsight, looking back at it a few months ago now, Largely, people seem to agree with me, but there was a small contingent on Twitter which very, very heavily disagreed with me.
They insisted that Oliver Antony isn't actually a globalist Democrat shill.
It is a value as a rebellious song, but there you go.
Father Calvin Robinson is a big fan.
I don't think I was in the country at the time, like I was in Russia or something, so this completely missed me.
Yeah, it's a country, it's from the south.
So it's like country music and he's moaning about the rich men north of Richmond, Virginia.
The Yankees in the north.
There are actually some pretty bass lyrics in there, referencing just the destruction of American society.
I think he references Ghislaine Maxwell.
No, who's the guy?
Epstein.
The Epstein Island and stuff like that.
So I don't hate it at all.
I think maybe the sentiment behind it has definitely got its heart in the right place.
I just think the actual song isn't all that great.
Anyway, next thing.
On the 23rd, ex-MEP Mr Godfrey Bloom came in.
And I'm a really big fan of Bloom.
I think he's great.
Bongo, bongo land.
Yeah, yeah.
All the rage.
I love his worldview, his takes, how unapologetic he is.
I was lucky enough, not in August later, to do a one-on-one EPOX with him talking about World War I.
And he really knows his stuff.
Really knows his onions.
I mean, he's a type of historian.
And he's just a great person to have an interview with.
You know when someone's just general knowledge is very, very, very deep?
Yes.
And they're just completely based.
Won't take any nonsense.
And he has a great sense of humour.
I remember because both times he was here I was on the panel.
He's very funny.
Yeah.
He sort of doesn't care, you know, who he might annoy.
Alright, one of the last things I'll mention is on the 28th, right at the end of August, Dr Nima Parvini, aka The Academic Agent, came in.
He's obviously good friends with Carl Benjamin and as I understand it we'd wanted him to come in from Inception and he sort of always said no for various reasons but Carl eventually sort of wore him down and I think that I think like the week before the weekend before they'd been to the shootings thing so they got him in and he made a bit of extra content as well as not just the podcast and He's always got interesting things to say.
I don't personally necessarily agree with all his takes, but he's certainly interesting and largely, in my opinion, nearly always right about things.
If not always.
But they talked about Tony Blair and it's hard to deny that Tony Blair is some sort of dark lord of global politics on some level.
Well, the evidence is there that he pulls strings on sort of a global level.
So that take, certainly, I've got no qualms with.
So yeah, go back and check that out if you haven't already, if you're an AA fan.
And I think Conor did a book club with him.
Was that all the content?
I think on his book, The Prophets of Doom.
Prophets of Doom, yeah.
Okay, yeah, so that's it for August.
Do I want to talk about September?
Yep, thank you.
Great, now let's go to September.
September was a very interesting month.
Lots of bad things happened.
Maybe not as bad as October, but certainly several stuff on the front of illegal immigration, censorship, and also you could say some rewriting of history or revisionism.
Took place.
Now, one thing to note is that you remember the Russell Brand allegations?
Several women, I think it was four of them, were contacted by the Times, I think Times, Sunday Times, and then there were independent media outlets who were conducting investigations about Russell Brand and his alleged misconduct in the past, especially in the period between 2006-2013.
Do you remember these accusations?
Not really, to be honest.
It seems to happen a lot, doesn't it?
Where there's some guy who's like, man, he's evil, he's evil, he's done stuff.
But because you're never actually able to pin down exactly what he did.
Like with Epstein, he raped kids.
You don't forget about it, but when it's someone like Russell Brown, it's like, what did he do exactly?
I don't remember.
I have no idea.
So basically the interesting, let's say, exchange was this one where you could read basically there is an alleged witness or an alleged victim called Nadia.
Nadia is a nickname.
It's an alias.
It's not the real name.
Sorry, I don't know if an alias is used to be in a pejorative sense.
I don't mean it in that way if it is.
Anyway, so they had this, and apparently this was enough to trigger an investigation into him.
But what was interesting was that, if you remember, there was the way that it was presented.
Was again very political.
You remember all front pages were saying Russell Brand accused of rape, Russell Brand accused of sexual misconduct, things like that.
But it was interesting because they portrayed him as, you know, a figure of the right wing.
Whereas I think that in that period between 2006 and 2013, he wasn't right wing at all.
He was way more left wing.
But he's still not.
I mean he might be a pro free speech person but as I understand it he quite likes the thought of Noam Chomsky.
I think he's still a Bernie bro.
So there's elements of what he does which is sort of centrist or right-leaning or based or whatever you want to say but mostly he's still a lefty.
He just doesn't want all of us thrown in prison for what we think currently.
That should be the default.
And he was also seen as a critic of Big Pharma.
That is one of the reasons why many allege that he was accused.
He denied and let's see where it goes because this is going to be one of those stories where it's going to drag for a long time.
Now.
Do you remember what happened in Lampedusa?
Again, we're recording this in early December.
He has not been charged.
There's no trial coming.
He doesn't seem to have been charged with anything as far as I can tell.
So that tells you a lot.
I mean, it might come further down the line that he is in fact charged and brought before a criminal court.
But so far, months later, nothing's come of it.
I don't know, but I remember that people from all across the spectrum were rushing in to say he did it or he didn't do it.
Whereas I think it's important to believe in the rule of law.
Even if sometimes it doesn't function properly, it's the only thing we have in order for society to not disintegrate into chaos.
Now, do you remember Lampedusa?
Speaking of societies disintegrating into chaos.
being threatened to disintegrate into chaos.
So Lampedusa is a small Italian island with around 6,000 people and it had a flux of let's say I don't worry about that.
Basically, those are just loads of people invading the island for 20 years.
This is from The Guardian, which is describing it as a humanitarian crisis as opposed to an illegal invasion.
And it says at least 11,000 people reached the island in boats over four days.
With a peak of 5,000 only on September 12th.
So imagine you're in a geographical region and you have close to, let's say, close to 200% of your population migrating to the island.
This is basically, it's not that these people went to Lampedusa, Lampedusa just lost its character.
I think it's been like this ever since NATO got rid of General Gaddafi.
Ever since Libya fell into that, Lampedusa has just been living in hell.
And we have pictures here from Lampedusa.
Yeah.
This is normal.
This is how life should be.
Everyone in Lampedusa actually wants their economy to function off tourism, but of course it's never going to whilst this continues.
Well, I mean, it's a true invasion.
There's no way you can't use the word invasion.
That's an invasion.
Look at the women though.
And this was one of the reasons why Georgia Maloney was criticized a lot by people from the right because they thought that her response to this was not what she promised and not what it should have been.
Now, let's move forward.
Migration, not into Europe, but also into the US.
Let's just look at a story, because it happened.
Tensions flare over migrants in New York City.
Staten Island protesters are arrested while trying to stop buses carrying asylum seekers to shelter as they yell, take them back.
Now, what is interesting here, because it happens all the time in a sense, but it says over 110,000 asylum seekers have arrived in New York City since the spring of 2022, with over currently 10,000 arriving every month.
This was an incident where You could see some internal Democrat blame gaming.
They were blaming each other.
So you had the mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, blaming Biden and the federal government.
The federal government did nothing.
Ocasio-Cortez blamed U.S.
foreign policy decades back.
It was just a blame game.
But it's interesting because it shows that A lot of the times the Democrats are showing solidarity with other people's neighborhoods when it comes to the issue, and it was an interesting thing to note.
Was that where there was quite literally an angry mob?
Sort of chanting and shouting over AOC while she was trying to tell them that this is normal and you should just suck it up.
I don't remember to be honest.
I can't give you an honest answer here.
That did end up happening one way or another.
I think that she does have this effect on crowds.
We have here Eric Adams slams Joe Biden again over New York City's migrant crisis as the president refuses to meet mayor while in town for the UN assembly.
Now, a lot of things happened when it comes to GB News.
Do you remember what happened to GB News?
They fired some of the hosts because they wouldn't fuck a woman.
So, we have Calvin- That's actually what happened though.
You don't know how to say the F word?
I'm sorry, but I hate this story so much, where literally all that happened is they went, I won't have sex with her.
And the entire political establishment of the UK went, how could you say that?
I mean, the former Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, was wheeled out on Sky News to be like, I would have sex with her.
And it's just like, what the hell is this?
This is a real discussion we're having.
And then Calvin ended up losing his job because he also agreed he wouldn't have sex with her.
But wasn't the whole thing, because I don't watch much of GB News, I like Neil Oliver, Neil Oliver's great.
I quite like that Christie's fella, he's quite good.
But most of GB News I don't watch, the vast majority of them I don't watch.
But wasn't the whole thing, the woman involved, That she always used that take, that angle.
Yeah.
If anyone tried to attack her, she'd be like... I would have sex with you though, you're an ugly man.
Right.
I was like, okay, well we'll have sex with you, you're an ugly man.
So Lawrence Fox was actually only trying to throw that back in her face, essentially.
Yeah.
Right?
That's what was really happening.
And GB News pissed their own pants.
Yeah.
Because a bunch of Labourites pissed their pants.
I was like, you could have just told them to go screw themselves.
Who's the owner of GB News again?
Or the main, the top dog, the Greek dude?
Friend Jalopalopolis?
Yeah, him.
So it would have been nice if you'd shown some... Do you know Stelios?
I don't remember the name, but can you show me?
I'll tell you.
I don't know off the top of my head.
I'll look it up real quick.
But it would have been good if he could have shown a bit of gumption there, a bit of leadership, a bit of balls really.
It seems a shame that he's just capitulated effectively.
So essentially what happened is that Lawrence Fox said that he wouldn't have sexual relations with that woman.
And a lot of lefties there started saying that this is unacceptable.
She said also that she felt physically sick.
Anyway, Lawrence Fox said that on Dan Wooten's show, and there was some, according to Calvin, there was someone there who texted, I think, her.
She's saying they said this about you.
Watch it.
Go and watch it.
And that's when the whole thing erupted.
I got sent into a Labour MP group chat.
Every Labour MP tweeted about it the next hour.
It was like, And essentially what happened was that Lawrence Fox was fired, Dan Wooden was fired after a bit, and Calvin basically said that if GB News is not to become just another mainstream media outlet, it has to have a serious stance on free speech.
That reaction.
Yeah.
For that, he was fired.
So, uh, you can watch, uh, his account of the events here in podcast seven, five, five, seven.
This was on the 6th of October, but I'm not stealing from my, whoever does October.
Cause these are events that happened in September.
Now, another yes.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Now I'm puzzled.
About English history.
I want your help here.
Okay?
Because basically you are the person to ask.
Who built Stonehenge?
Well...
There are many layers, sit back, I got this, I got this, I got you bro.
Do you really want to know?
Very, very quickly.
There's a few layers to it.
It was built over more than a millennia.
So the original, the original builders were sort of Bell Beaker era peoples, Neolithic Stone Age, the late Neolithic peoples.
And the latest bits of it are much, much, much later than that.
Oh, right.
I see.
So not, not sub-Saharan black people though.
Okay, so there was the BBBH book by Atinuke called Brilliant Black British History.
That is a new children's history book that says basically things like, every single British person comes from a migrant, but the very first Britons were black.
And anyway, Stonehenge was built by black Britons.
And let us look at this here because I found this.
If we can click here in the pictures, This is a Tariq Nasheed level story.
I think this has to do with the stewards.
Is this an accurate depiction of the stewards?
Wow.
I think it really is actually Tariq Nasheed.
Wow.
Suleiman was black.
The Japanese, they was Ethiopians crossing over from Korea.
The thing is... What do you do with that?
From our point of view, of course, that's absurd.
They think that's real?
Yeah.
So from our point of view, it's both funny, it's annoying and funny.
But from their point of view, how can they think, yes, we're winning.
Like, this is a win for us.
The truth has been discovered.
They actually think that's what England looked like.
And there's, of course, there's the other sort of extremely odd contradiction that they also think that Britain is sort of intrinsically, systemically racist and bigoted and all empire is evil and all that.
But they're also responsible for it as well, though.
It just makes no sense whatsoever.
It's true madness on a few different levels, right, to do that.
So you revisionist history.
Sorry, I just want to also look at the Vikings over here.
This is before.
So when a few would come and then by the time of the stewards, 100% of the British population were black and then something happened.
I don't know.
If they're saying the Stonehenge era people were black, then why weren't they black the whole time?
I don't know.
We'll go back further in history.
But if the Celts are white, who built Stonehenge?
Are we missing?
I mean, the original builders of Stonehenge, the late Neolithic peoples, they were long before the Celts.
Yeah, there were black people, then the Celts came, killed them all.
But it's also fun because... I'm sorry, but it is, yeah, it's mad.
It's also fun because it says basically that, you know, the West is inherently racist and white-ist or something.
And look at the depiction of the Romans.
The thing is, the Romans did invade and conquer North Africa.
Yeah.
But of course the North African people aren't sub-Saharan black people.
Kind of what sub-Saharan means.
Right, exactly.
Below the Sahara.
But then you can make the argument that this person, even this emperor, was African.
They were African.
So they must look like they were from the Congo or Nigeria or something.
There's one in the Tudor period, there is a painting of a sub-Saharan black person, full black person, because there was someone in one of the Tudor courts, I think maybe the Elizabethan court, I can't quite remember.
Um, where they were, I think they were a minstrel or a bard of some type and there's an oil painting, a legit painting, but they were sort of, they were the complete exception to the rule.
Yeah.
Um, to such a degree.
Uh, but yeah, historians, revisionists, liars will say, no, look, there's a bit of evidence there that there were black people, sub-Saharan black people in Britain during the Tudor period.
And therefore you can't say for sure there weren't loads of them.
Bo, do you think, were there any sources written by the historian Netflixius?
Was there?
Anyway, do you remember, what do you think of the Canadian government and its constant claim that it can find extremism everywhere?
It's just another madness, isn't it?
Do you remember what happened?
It happened in September.
The scandal over a standing ovation for a Nazi veteran is now raising questions about a cemetery monument in Canada that honors his Waffen-SS unit.
Remember, it's Yaroslav Hunka, I think.
This is what happens when you've got an agenda and you're prepared to walk Anything, including reality and the nature of history and past events and cause and effect.
You're prepared to walk or lie about all of that in order to serve your one current agenda thing.
You put up the 14 Waffen-SS Division monuments in Canada.
So the angle is, isn't it, that we hate Russia at the moment.
We're pro-Ukraine and we hate Russia.
So anything that dunks on Russia in some way, Even if it's pro-Nazi, actual Nazi.
They had a very weird response afterwards.
Some of them apologized, others were trying to introduce some nuance and say that we need to remember the Holodomor and why lots of Ukrainians wanted to gain independence from Russia and things like that.
But it's interesting that you see this claim from Canadian woke people.
Progressivists were constantly infatuated with finding extremism everywhere, and they were literally clapping for an ex-SS member.
If I remember rightly, he was in one of the Grenadier Divisions.
If I remember, I can't remember exactly, but if I recall, he was in one of the actual Waffen-SS Grenadier Divisions, I think.
He saw loads of combat on the Eastern Front.
And would have been involved in... Probably.
Probably would have been involved.
In fact, I think that division is... Okay, a little bit of nuance here.
The actual Wehrmacht, the army, would go through and it would be more police units that would round up people for the mass exterminations.
It wouldn't necessarily be the Wehrmacht themselves.
Well, it wasn't usually.
Nonetheless, I believe the unit he was in saw lots and lots of action on the Eastern Front and even briefly fought on the Western Front after D-Day.
I believe, might be wrong, I hope I'm not wrong about that.
In other words, I think that is right, fought against US and Canadian troops.
So in World War II, he was the enemy of Canada.
But I don't have the impression that contemporary progressivists learn history.
They didn't care about any of that, did they?
It was just... There's four Nazi monuments in Canada?
That are just up?
It's not just that one?
Didn't know that.
Okay.
This is what happens when you don't learn history, I guess.
Yeah.
Because it's all just like, oh, they were the Ukrainian army, right?
And this other one is like, oh, he was just a Serb, wasn't he?
It's like, no.
No, he was not.
Now, let's move to a fun bit that happened.
Do you know Ibram X. Kendi?
The anti-racist who basically says the beautiful line, let me say this, I have it here because, I mean, I have to read it.
He says, racism is a collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.
You don't define it, mate.
So he had a... Circular reasoning, isn't it?
There's no logic to that.
Anyway, it's a nothing burger, do you call it?
Americans call it that, yes.
Yeah, it's round also.
It's also circular.
So what happened was that his anti-racist research center Got involved in a scandal where there were massive layoffs and people losing their jobs.
And what happened was that he got $43 million in donations for research.
And his research output wasn't particularly substantial, and people started having, let's say, a go at him.
I won't say I'm completely split on this because on the one hand I think he shouldn't be anywhere near a university or anywhere near grants.
But on the other hand, if you give money for research to someone who basically tells you, I know everything already.
Because any racial discrimination, any racial disparity is caused by racism.
That is axiom.
There isn't anything to research there.
He already tells you I know everything.
So, in a way, why do you give money for research to someone who says I already know everything and there isn't anything to research?
Especially something in the ballpark of 40 odd million.
It's difficult.
It's like Brewster's Millions.
It's difficult to spend that amount of money.
Where did that go?
How can you spend it?
Let's you build whole buildings.
Let's you build an entire campus of new buildings.
Maybe then you could spend over 40 million dollars.
Otherwise it's...
And another thing, do you remember Black Lives Matter?
Unfortunately, I don't.
So there was one of its organizers admitted fraud after 30,000 pounds raised from donors went missing.
So it's Zahra Saleem, 23 pleaded guilty to one count of fraud by abuse of position.
And if you see here, she... I was on that one that day.
I was on the podcast that day.
Yeah.
Complete fraud.
Yeah.
Despicable human being yes and now let's end with a funny note and this is a bit esoteric but the car went on holiday and we had the two.
We had the two podcasts where we talked about our series, and here is where it was myself, Dan, and Connor.
And I want to end with the next one, which had Josh, you, and Harry talking about your respective series.
These were two really wholesome episodes, as far as I'm concerned.
And I want to just say here to end with this, I think that Harry's smile here is absolutely demonic.
I think it's just really weird.
Yeah.
We talked with him about it.
He finds it funny.
We're just having fun.
Anyway, we were talking with Harry and we said that he is one of his most weird smiles.
Wearing the same tie.
Yeah.
I've actually got quite a lot of ties, but I happen to be wearing the exact same tie.
You keep it for special occasions.
Oh, that's it.
Oh, fair enough.
And we're not doing video comments or anything, because again, pre-record.
So, if you like that, have a good time during the Christmas period.
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