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Sept. 11, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast for the 11th of September.
	That's a cursed date.
	2023.
	I'm joined by Stelios.
	Hello.
	No 9-11 jokes today.
	Out of fear.
	22 years.
	When does it become funny again?
	I thought I'd just start everything off by making it awkward.
	But anyway, let's talk about what we're going to talk about today, which is a very serious crime.
	Indeed, there's been a racism.
	Okay.
	I'm sure it's going to be very serious.
	It is indeed.
	Incredibly serious.
	MAGA communism.
	Yes.
	No spoilers?
	No, no, no spoilers.
	Okay.
	Also, please no bully because the bullies have got to go.
	But otherwise, we shall begin with some fun.
	So there is very serious crime out there.
	There's been a racism.
	Oh.
	I'm sure you're well aware.
	It's sad that this day, this terrible, terrible day of September the 11th has been marked with such a crime as what we have witnessed in the UK, which is a man at the age of 60 has posted a meme in a WhatsApp chat.
	I mean, that's pretty far, isn't it?
	It is unbelievable that someone could do such a thing and ruin the day forever.
	Anyway, for people who don't know what the hell I'm talking about, literally there have been some men who are going to jail for having a group chat.
	I'm not even kidding.
	But we'll start off by promoting something on lowesies.com, this being the economics of margin call, because it's good fun, if nothing else.
	So do go and check that out.
	That's on the premium section of the website.
	Otherwise, we shall get into the news, just to put some meat on the bones.
	Here you are.
	This is real.
	This is the crime you're talking about.
	This is the very serious crime that has ruined the state forever.
	Five former London Met police officers admit sending racist messages on WhatsApp after a BBC investigation.
	This is just crushing.
	I think they will make several documentaries on Netflix about it.
	God, I hope so.
	It's really the crime of the century.
	And the responses are cringe.
	Most people just posting like, well, this is proof that the police are really racist.
	We've got them, boys.
	OK, well, should we check it out?
	Should we check out the dirty that they may have done?
	So here you are.
	Met police.
	Ex-officers admit to sending racist sponsor messages.
	So we're not dealing with actual police officers, though.
	We're dealing with people who left.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What did they say?
	Did they say good morning to someone?
	A GM and it was interpreted as racist?
	Literally they posted memes.
	Okay.
	That's what we're talking about today.
	So you can see here that they've all been charged with sending grossly offensive racist messages.
	It's not actually a crime.
	The grossly offensive part of the crime.
	But this is the same law that they charged Count Dankler with for doing the pug salute.
	So we've got five people who were in the Met Police years ago and now have left.
	And are now posting away in a WhatsApp chat with them and their friends, who are none of them police officers.
	But this means they all have to go to jail.
	I can sense the music, the haunting music that they will have when they have a docu-series about it.
	When they walk into the courtroom and the Empire Strikes Back music starts playing or something.
	Should we have a listen to all these criminals?
	These dirty, dirty men who are going to ruin the world?
	Are you sure it's not going to offend my sensitivities and my psychology is not going to be crushed?
	It depends how much you care about the royal family, to be honest.
	So they say here that the men pleaded guilty to the dirty crime of sending grossly offensive messages, including about the Duchess of Sussex.
	How could you?
	Other messages referred to the Prince and Princess of Wales, Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.
	We can kind of guess what those memes are.
	Sadly, no one will tell us in the media what those memes are.
	But I mean, we can guess.
	What does everyone make fun of Meghan Markle for?
	And what does everyone make fun of Prince Philip for?
	One's for being a victim of racism, the other one's for being a good old racist.
	That's the joke.
	Which is, if you ever just looked up the quotes from Prince Philip, none of them are actually racist, they're all just really funny.
	And that's how he gets that meme title.
	Also on WhatsApp was one question, where are you from?
	That was incredibly racist.
	No, where are you really from?
	Where are you really from?
	Stop lying!
	Where are you really from?
	Have you ever listened to the Prince Philip quotes or not?
	Uh, no, but... Alright, I'll give you one.
	Please indulge.
	Just if you're a foreigner who doesn't know, go look it up, they're all great.
	One of them is him talking about... I think he goes to meet some aboriginals in Australia?
	I can't remember the exact group.
	He just turns up and then says, Sir, you lot still chucking spears about then?
	It's just like, okay, alright man.
	Is that the people who were worshipping Prince Philip?
	The cult worshipping prince?
	I don't know if he's ever actually met them.
	Okay, yeah, but they still worship him?
	I think they now worship the new king, which is, I think we're even there disappointed about that.
	Anyway, so amongst the charges, the five men have also made reference to Rishi Sunak.
	How could you make fun of the Prime Minister at a private group chat?
	Oh, just gross.
	They also made fun of Priti Patel and Savage Abbott.
	Terrible.
	Anyway, let's check out the officers.
	Peter Booth, 66 years old.
	Okay.
	We're dealing with actual pensioners.
	It's going to be literally a bunch of old pensioners, isn't it?
	He pled guilty to four counts.
	He retired from the Met Police in 2001.
	Okay.
	So retired for 22 years.
	22 years ago, this guy worked in the police.
	Yeah.
	So we've got to take this seriously because this pensioner and I don't know.
	Yeah, they do put it here.
	The messages are all from 2020 to 2022.
	So when none of them are in the police force.
	A bunch of old men were having a joke in a WhatsApp chat, so they've all got to go down.
	Continuing here, we have RobertLewis62.
	Who knows who's watching?
	All these people spying on us.
	Have you ever considered their feelings?
	I want to know who the rat was in the chat, to be honest.
	Because that's a whole other question.
	So RobertLewis62, he admitted to eight counts of breaking the law of posting memes.
	He posted six memes, presumably.
	Sorry, eight memes.
	He retired in 2015.
	There we are.
	He was dismissed for gross misconduct after he went to work for the Home Office in November.
	That's a whole other thing.
	So, again, not a police officer during any of this time.
	Anthony Elson, 67.
	Again, another old-age pensioner.
	From Bournemouth, he was played guilty to three counts of posting memes.
	He left the force in 2012, so that's 10, 11 years ago.
	Again, Alan Hall, 65, pled guilty to three counts of posting memes, retired in 2015, and Trevor Luton, 65, pled guilty to one count of posting a meme.
	Let me play devil's advocate.
	We have all these demographic issues and people live longer, so it seems that they're in their prime.
	The average Englishman now, because of the demographics, is about 65 with a race of group chat on WhatsApp for the old times.
	He left the force in 2009 too, so again, I don't think it could be any more clear how unserious this is, as in, why is everyone wasting their time with even going after these guys?
	Well, they said there was one more Met Police officer who refused to plead guilty to posting a meme.
	I don't know how he could try and get away with such a terrible crime.
	He's 62, so he's not quite at the full retirement age now, but I don't know.
	I think the pension age used to be 60, now it's 65.
	Don't ask me, I don't know anything.
	I'm just a humble moron.
	But we have found their secretary.
	There we are.
	She was the one, presumably, who did the leak.
	The undercover agent who outed all of these former Met police officers.
	People are wondering, this is actually a 90-year-old grandma who was a secretary in the Holocaust.
	So they charged him with war crimes.
	Presumably, this is what will be happening to these boys, too, because it's equally as unbelievable that you could have a group chat where you post memes.
	So there we are.
	Just mentioned earlier.
	I think I already did.
	The responses are just boring.
	Where it's just people like, see?
	Proof.
	Racism in the police force.
	20 years ago.
	Except not 20 years ago.
	Two years ago in a group chat of people who 20 years ago worked in the police force.
	Yeah.
	Okay, just normies being normies, I suppose.
	But then I had to wonder, they're like, you know, look at these white guys who are being done.
	What would happen if you went and checked out the black police officers group chats?
	Well, can black people be racist?
	That's a question that people ask nowadays.
	Stupid people, yeah.
	Yes, but I'm sure it was going to... I mean, if you want an honest answer from me, what I believe, I think that there's going to be plenty of racism there.
	But no one's ever going to care, are they?
	Yeah.
	That's the reality of this part of the world, which is, as you correctly say, people will say that the stupid people will be like, well, it's not really racist because they're black.
	Yeah, but he did say kill all white people.
	So, I mean, that's, I don't know, kind of on the racist scale I would have thought.
	Kind of, yeah.
	I mean, maybe.
	I mean, do you remember actually, I think it was, do you remember that Muslim police officer who went viral?
	Because all of her colleagues were there with their riot gear, being, you know, in a riot situation, and she was four foot in a hijab and acting tough.
	The footage didn't, she wasn't helping in the slightest, but she had an unhappy expression while standing there with a baton, so she became a meme.
	Yes.
	And then they looked into her, it turns out she was posting quite a lot of 9-11 memes in her group chats and public Twitter posts.
	Did she lose her job or something?
	No, she got suspended with pay.
	Was there any public outrage about it?
	There was one Daily Mail article.
	No crime was committed.
	But no, private group chat, that's really a public communication network, it's a real crime.
	But anyway, some people get unlucky, that's the news.
	I mean, this happens, this genuinely does happen quite regularly in the UK.
	People listening, we'll look at a chap here who's had the group chat leak and is now going to jail.
	And well, there's one solution for the chaps if they're watching.
	Hello boys, I know you're all 60, but you know, if you considered Afghanistan, there's not many hate speech laws against that kind of people anymore.
	So there you are, that's an option on the table.
	But this story pops up every so often, where we find people who are going to jail for making tweets or Facebook posts.
	Yeah.
	It's stupid.
	They're dumb memes.
	People go to jail over this.
	But at least it's a public discussion.
	But your group chat?
	Yeah, it wasn't discussed.
	It's not even public.
	It's not.
	By definition.
	That's why I said before, have you considered the feelings of all those people who spy on us?
	They're the ones who were really hurt.
	Yeah, they're hurt.
	Maybe that's how they were found.
	I mean, sincerely, unless someone did, like, become a grass.
	Was someone at a GCHQ just being like, I don't like this group chat.
	Maybe you didn't see the bureau, the woke bureaucrat saying, let's try to find racism on, you know, random private WhatsApp messages and WhatsApp conversation.
	And let us just grant access to all people, people's calls and find racism there.
	You know what's annoying though is I bet they do that, find the racism, laugh, and then report it.
	Because I remember I spoke to a guy called Ryan Hartwick, he was a moderator for Facebook, and he told me they do actually sit there and look at your memes on Facebook, really like belly chuckle laugh at them, and then hit delete.
	And then you get a report on your account because it doesn't matter how funny you are.
	I mean, there are crimes that are committed and that the police does not address.
	Like, you know, shoplifting, murders, all this stuff.
	Other racist memes.
	You have to.
	You have to understand why they feel the particular need to address these memes.
	Indeed.
	And so the boys in blue are going to save us.
	It's an issue of priorities.
	But there's another aspect that I always find fun.
	I mean, I mentioned it earlier.
	If there's ever a story about racist memes or a group chat, they never show you what they are?
	Yeah.
	They're never just like, yeah, here's the meme.
	Yeah, it doesn't deserve jail, because everyone would be like, no.
	That's funny.
	In fact, I'm going to copy that and send it to my friend.
	And you do.
	So I thought I'd go and check out what the media are saying, which is not much.
	Weirdly.
	Again, this one just goes through the list of ages of the people.
	The various pensioners are all going to the second trial.
	No one talks about the meme.
	Yeah.
	Well, they do mention some insight here in case you're trying to find those memes to send to your friends.
	According to BBC Newsnight, the group shared racist images too offensive to broadcast.
	The people who prosecute them had the ability to watch them?
	Yes.
	The editor looked at the memes.
	The political editor looked at the memes.
	The staff looked at the memes.
	The investigators looked at the memes.
	None of their felses melted off.
	They didn't turn into ghouls.
	Imagine how courts will be in the future.
	You're going to have a judge sitting there and say, no, no, I can't watch this.
	It's, it's so, it's so offensive.
	Please tell me you, Prosecutor, is it, is it offensive or not?
	Will I be able to watch it?
	Like a judge dealing with like, I don't know, some child rape case where he's got to look at child porn to send the pedo down for life and then goes into the racist meme trial the next day and is like, I can't.
	It's too perverse.
	Well, in fact here, they do mention there's some very disgusting language.
	They say there's very strong racial slurs, including the P word and the N word.
	Okay.
	As far as we know, those words have never been used for comedic purposes under any circumstances.
	No comedian has ever used those words in a comedic sketch or setup, so the only way they could possibly have been used was to spread hate, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	There's no way you would, I don't know, find funny out of those words.
	If you go on the internet, you'll never find that.
	That's absolutely the case.
	Sky News went with a weird one, which is, they put this picture up, And then just below, they tagged the text where it just says, all six men have been granted unconditional bail.
	Who is this Sergeant Nicholas Angel 20 years after Hot Fuzz?
	Sincerely, this is pensioner Sergeant Nicholas Angel over there making a run for it.
	He's going to try and find the border and break into Afghanistan so he can avoid going down for his memes.
	God, I would love to know what the WhatsApp chat does look like for Sanford Gloucestershire.
	Yeah.
	Just, like, sincerely.
	Yeah, okay.
	It's just, ah, living in heaven.
	Pictures of London.
	For the greater good.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I kind of want those memes now.
	Anyway, but the prisons of England, I think we have some footage of what they now look like, which is something like this.
	Just people tunneling out.
	Various shitposters of all kinds are now being sentenced to between, I believe the punishment is up to five years in prison?
	For one count of grieving persons?
	Oh come on, that's ridiculous.
	So if you have eight counts, like that chat from earlier, I mean, what's that?
	I can't do math.
	Forty years?
	Yeah.
	Forty years of tunneling to escape.
	So good luck.
	Don't post any more memes, you dirty, horrible man.
	You're ruining the... You know the UK?
	You know how it's kind of been going downhill since probably 2008?
	It was like the financial peak?
	Civilizational peak?
	I don't know, like 1911?
	I don't know who you ask.
	Depends who you ask.
	Yeah, but the real reason for that is, I feel, the memes.
	I don't know what else could possibly be destroying this place.
	Certainly not the people they were making fun of.
	Anyway, but there's a bit more.
	We can see here the Times.
	Yes, the Times decided to go with the outlet that's usually considered slightly right-wing, so therefore tries to give it a fair hearing.
	Oh, come on.
	Well, they just brought up a bunch of rapists for no reason.
	I'm not joking either.
	So they mention it here.
	I don't know what paragraph it's on, but you'll find it in your own time.
	We can see here some more criminals, chaps from earlier.
	I mean, I just want to have a pint with them, looking at them.
	Same with that one.
	Probably got some good memes.
	We could, you know, make a little exchange like Pokemon cards.
	Anyway, but they say here all five officers had served in various parts of the Met Police, including the Parliamentary Diplomatic Protection Command.
	Yeah.
	These are just people who keep, you know, MPs safe.
	Anyway, and then they just randomly bring up other people who have been in the Protection Command who are rapists, such as Wayne Cousins, 49, who was given a whole life order after the abduction and murder of Sarah Everard.
	I don't know what that's got to do with the WhatsApp chat.
	They don't tell us if there were any Wayne Cousin memes in the WhatsApp chat.
	I don't think there were.
	Or they probably have mentioned it.
	So just, okay, bring up one rapist murderer.
	David Carrick, who raped and abused at least 12 women over 17 years, whilst he was also with The Met, they bring up.
	Again, no justification as to why.
	Yeah.
	Just, yeah, don't you know there are also some rapists?
	Okay.
	I mean, I guess they both worked in the same unit, but I don't know what that, I don't know what Cousins and David over here have to do with posting memes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, you're in the same unit.
	I think it used to be that there's the presumption of innocence, but now there's a presumption of guilt.
	So they just target people and they just think of the accusations later.
	But I love the idea that you've got this rapist murderer and then men with WhatsApp chat.
	It's just like, well, they're criminals, aren't they?
	Yeah.
	And I think this is an outcome of the police not fighting actual crime.
	They invent new categories of crime and they try to say that they are fighting crime when they target the new ones.
	It's like with the slurs.
	I love the idea that you could.
	I mean, just for point of reference.
	Let's take this guy here.
	Are you really going to describe your job as fighting crime for locking him up for a meme he posted?
	I mean, it's just actually insane.
	You have to be insanely woke and an insane ideologue to think so.
	Yeah.
	But there is a correct version of the story.
	I did see it from Paul Oakley.
	He posted this out, which is just five old age pensioners who were once in the Met Police have pleaded guilty to doing a racism on WhatsApp and have been grasped up by the BBC.
	There you are.
	I like the phrasing, doing racisms.
	Doing racisms.
	They're doing them a lot.
	It counts as racisms.
	I can collect it or something.
	Anyway, just to end this off, because, I mean, even if you sit there and think, well, okay, I hate racisms, all kinds of memes I despise, so they should be locked up.
	Well, the funny thing about all of this story is that everyone involved on the side of, look at these dirty racists, the BBC and the police both standing there being like, you know, we're going to send them down, are actually the people who are destroying people's lives with their racisms.
	Yes.
	We've covered this before.
	People who don't know.
	Here's the BBC.
	I'm saying that BAME-only jobs are legal.
	So this is a job where you can only apply if you're non-white.
	But that's not racism somehow.
	No, not only was it legal, according to the BBC, it was the right thing to do.
	It is not even a racism.
	No, it's a negative racism.
	Yeah.
	It's a minus racism to discriminate against white applicants for jobs.
	And then, of course, you've got the police as well, who sit around setting targets of blacks, not for criminal reasons, but instead for hiring them, which also, to be honest, I also think that's criminal.
	I think it should be criminal to discriminate against white applicants, radicals over here.
	But they, many a time, have been caught as a result.
	You know, this example in Cheshire, police force discriminated against white heterosexual male.
	The reason why?
	Because he was white.
	Yeah, you've watched all these videos with police officers who cannot basically enforce the law.
	Twitter is full of them.
	Yeah, usually six foot white men who are unable to.
	It's not, is it?
	Or not necessarily six foot.
	You could say three, four foot.
	But it's not just height or something.
	It's just, it is obviously the case that the police department, the bureaucracy is more interested in quotas and virtue signaling than actually thinking that policing is something that you need to care for the public good.
	I mean, we'll get to dogs later, but let's say if you're attacked by a rapist, I mean, who do you want to save you?
	The person who can.
	The person who can.
	The hulking man.
	Yeah, the person who can.
	I don't care where they are from or something.
	But there is differences in genetics, which I'm sick of people ignoring.
	It's like, funnily enough, men and women aren't the same.
	The same thing here with the Bacchus of like, oh well, we'll just hire people who are vain.
	I mean, Jordan Peterson has put this way better than I can, obviously, but if you decide you're going to hire exclusively people on the basis of their race, Well then you're going to hire less competent candidates, because there's only a pool of so many people from that race, and then the pool of people who are competent from that race is the same with the white group that you're looking at.
	But you've said, I'm going to start deleting competent white characters for incompetent brown characters, because I want the certain percentage.
	Well that's the result then, you get incompetent people instead of just hiring incompetents, regardless of background.
	Somehow they're hiring on grounds of race, but they're not doing a racism.
	No, whereas the ex-police officers who have memes or group chats, they are doing racism.
	There's just some more examples here of them doing the racism.
	This is other police forces as well.
	And then just the point that in the meantime, they will also just lie to you about doing the racism themselves.
	They're like, yes, what we do is completely lawful.
	We don't do positive discrimination, except when we get caught doing it multiple times.
	But my point being, if you've got a group chat, Be careful.
	There are BBC journalists who are racist out there who will come in there and then try and get you sent to jail, if you're British.
	The alternative is just to move out of the country, which, um... Yeah, I mean, there's not a short number of reasons for not doing that, but... Anyway, that's that.
	Keep your memes secret.
	Before we go to the next one, I'm sure some people are going to say the Greek guy doesn't know how to talk English.
	He talks about doing a racism.
	I think that's now the official parlance.
	So even Paul Oakley was saying we're doing racism now.
	Okay.
	So I want to ask you what you think is the most trollish form of communism?
	The most trolling form of communism?
	If I was being a smartass, I'd probably say Cambodia.
	I mean, communism is a trollish ideology.
	I mean, just think of it, what it says is that somehow there will be a classless society.
	There will be no consciousness of property.
	No one will think in terms of mine and yours.
	It is a bit trollish.
	And there are many kinds.
	You have Marxists, Leninists, Marxist-Leninists, Maoists, Stalinists, Trotskyists.
	And then the Cambodians.
	What if I kill all these babies?
	Then we'll all be equal.
	Yes, and also Cambodians say, you're wearing glasses, therefore you must be a bad person.
	Let me kill you.
	So there are lots of trollish forms of communism, because communism, let's face it, it is a trollish ideology.
	But I found the most trollish one, I think.
	It's MAGA communism.
	Is this real or not?
	Or is this a proposal for it?
	No, no, it's not a proposal.
	I would propose to the same people who are behind it, to the masterminds behind MAGA communism, that the next one they should put forward is Stalinist Trotskyism.
	Something like that, because it's the ultimate synthesis.
	Somehow all things come together, all forces combine and they create something that is actually liberating and everyone else thought it was contradictory but because we were fools something like that.
	You ever heard of the Nazbols?
	No.
	You don't know what Nazbols are?
	No.
	National Bolsheviks?
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, they're a real thing in Russia, but follow the conversation.
	Right.
	Okay, before we talk more about MAGA Communism, you could visit the website and for £5 a month you can gain access to all our wonderful premium content and watch videos such as Symposium 35 on value pluralism that I did with Karl.
	Let me say one thing.
	Value pluralism is not multiculturalism.
	Some people just misunderstood the video completely.
	We're talking about something completely different.
	It's about utopianism because a lot of the times the communists, for instance, they're telling us that in that state, in that state of communism, all values will be compatible and all of them will come together and there will be no conflict of value.
	We are examining with Carl a theory called Value Pluralism that says that this ultimately cannot happen.
	So if you want to see an interesting rebuttal of this communist promise, you can check our video.
	Now, let's go to our next link here.
	But let's say, you know, Jackson Hinkle?
	No.
	Ring a bell?
	You know, Has Aldin?
	No.
	There are two debate bros who are the masterminds behind MAGA communism.
	Now, you could tell me that, well, lots of people from the audience could tell me, well, if these people are trollish, why do you give them the airtime?
	The answer is I'm not giving them the airtime they have already been seen.
	Jackson Hinkle has appeared on Tim Cust and Tucker Carlson.
	So it's not exactly that they are obscure.
	So let's watch the next clip.
	Do you identify as communist?
	Yes.
	What is the value of communism?
	Orienting government and the economy for the public good.
	I think that's like an oversimplification.
	or idealism.
	Simply, that's what it is.
	I mean, I think that any communist state that takes form in America is going to have communist values or American values, rather.
	It's going to be based on the history of our country, the Constitution.
	I think it would be a Christian communist state.
	And I think that we can learn a lot from China and from the Soviet Union.
	But you look at China today, there are Their economy is outpacing ours.
	It's gonna beat ours totally probably within the next five to ten years.
	You know, Europe is going down, the U.S.
	is going down.
	China lifted 845 million people out of poverty in the last 40 years.
	I think that we shouldn't be China, but I think we can learn things from China and the Soviet Union and other countries that have done it successfully.
	Successfully?
	Do you think China didn't do it successfully?
	Yeah, they fell apart in 69 years.
	Why don't you tell us a little about yourself, you know, where you're from, as far as you want to go, and your past, up to you personally.
	Web?
	Okay.
	Okay, so I want you to watch the Twitter account of this person.
	It seems like, you know, the wallpaper screams, I'm in favor of the masses, and I want to liberate the people.
	I do actually recognize the account now, I didn't recognize the name.
	He always posts pro-Russia stuff, and then recently he started posting pro-Soviet Union stuff, and I got really weirded out by it.
	It's just like, if you're pro-Russia, Russians don't do this.
	Not just, hey, wasn't it cool?
	Stuff like, wow, I think you're about to show it actually.
	Where it's like, yeah, wasn't the Soviet Union great?
	I mean, you heard him talking on TimCast, where he was saying, for instance, that the basic argument is China is outpacing the U.S.
	economy.
	In the last four decades, the Chinese economy has lifted up 845,000 people from poverty.
	And that there is going to be a new form of mega communism that will, let's say, take over America, then the US.
	And it's going to be based on Christian communism and the Constitution.
	OK.
	How does this sound?
	Retarded.
	But maybe there's a thing here.
	This is the issue with giving the benefit of the doubt to your political opponents, because sometimes You know, sometimes maybe we miss something, OK?
	I've got something here, though, which is that so getting back to Russia, I mean, Russia's a really weird place politically.
	Yes.
	And I don't mean to talk about the apparatus of power.
	I mean, the ideologies of the people interacting with politics.
	Because you go and hang out with them, and they'll have like the imperial Russian stuff, communist stuff, and then like nationalist Putin stuff.
	Yes.
	And you ask them, like, how does this fit together exactly?
	And they're like, well, you know, there's aspects of all of them.
	But also the other question, I mean, he answered, what's the value of, to the question, what is the value of communism?
	He said, government orientation of the economy for the public good.
	Or he said, orienting the government and the economy for the public good.
	I mean, that's not exactly a definition of communism, let alone an answer as to what is valuable.
	It is actually a realistic definition of communism.
	In what sense?
	Well, you know how the communists are like, oh, no, we have this ideal of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And it never comes to be.
	Every time a communist state gets tried, it just becomes what the fascists describe themselves as.
	Yes.
	Which is the whole economy and everything being run by the state for the state's purposes.
	Yes, but... Which is actually his answer, which is what communism does lead to.
	This is what he... I don't know if this is what he ultimately thinks, because I don't know actually whether he's well read.
	It seems to me that he's not.
	But definitely, you could say that the communists are in favor of central planning of the economy and society.
	But first of all, just saying that you're in favor of the common good and the public good doesn't say anything.
	That's for good things?
	Wow, jeez!
	Any supporter of any, let's say, political position, almost every supporter, would say that what they're doing is actually structuring society to such an extent that they're promoting the common good.
	So this is not even an answer.
	It doesn't give you any way in which you can understand this.
	And also, I mean, there's plenty of stuff to say.
	I don't want to make it really, let's say, Intellectual or something.
	It doesn't have to be.
	But it's really nice when he talks about communism based on the constitution.
	On the American constitution, especially.
	Because what is the funniest thing about this is that, I mean, the spirit of the founding is a classical Republican one.
	The goal is to have a system of separation where powers are separated.
	That is going to prevent people from gaining power.
	And communists are The exact opposite.
	They are telling us, we are the good guys.
	We are not going to be corrupted by absolute power.
	So give us absolute power.
	So we are going to enforce the good.
	And basically the world is going to turn into a heaven.
	So it's really, really weird how this person thinks that the spirit of Classical republicanism and separation of powers is compatible with a system like communism.
	And also one thing to say, because there's a lot of discussion about this, technically speaking, Communism is supposed to be classless society where the system has withered away.
	It's one of the other things.
	It is one of the promises that they're going to say somehow is going to wither away.
	So his definition shows to me that he hasn't really read a lot about what he's saying.
	So is this just a meme?
	Because none of it makes sense.
	You'll see.
	Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
	Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
	Now, let's go to the next link here.
	You having trouble with the mouse?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Now, another... This is what I mean.
	Like, he'll tweet stuff that's... He's using the Russian flag there and saying, the new Soviet man was muscular, selfless, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	God-fearing, learned, and enthusiastic in spreading communism.
	The American liberal man is fat, atheistic, porn-addicted, transgender, and spreading the work-mind virus.
	What's a work-mind virus?
	Folk-mind virus.
	You just spelled it wrong.
	Well, I don't know if this person makes mistakes.
	Okay, so how do you react when it comes to the first sentence?
	The new Soviet man was muscular, selfless, God-fearing, learned and enthusiastic in spreading Communism.
	So I'm pretty sure, I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but the new Soviet man was a stupid theoretical man in the minds of the upper echelons of the Soviet Union about how they wanted people to be.
	That obviously never really existed because we can't actually even get enough calories to get to this peak physical condition for most people.
	And even this isn't actually that impressive, it's just they don't have much body fat, which is pretty easy to do in the Soviet Union.
	Yeah.
	Okay, now, this is the one we saw.
	Now let's see here, someone got really annoyed.
	Lots of people got very annoyed.
	Phil LaBonte was very annoyed, and he said... And you got very annoyed at this?
	Yeah, he got very annoyed.
	I don't think it's funny, it's just...
	No, he got very annoyed, and there is going to be a reappearance of Jackson Hinkle on Tempest on November 1, I think.
	Can I get tickets?
	Phil will restore justice.
	Now, this person here, Eric Suarez, says, Communist MAGA.
	Within quotation marks, patriot Jackson Hinkle doubles down on his belief that China is good because of communism.
	Couldn't be more wrong.
	Communists and historic illiteracy come hand in hand.
	The reason China had an economic boom is because The liberalization and embrace free markets by Deng Xiaoping.
	You remember the argument that he gave on Temcast as to why communism is valuable is that basically, you know, it's right now the Chinese economy is outpacing the U.S.
	economy.
	Pushing people out of poverty.
	Yes.
	I want him to check if he ever listened to this.
	I want him to check what's the great leap forward and see how communist policies were We did a book club on it, and one of the best pieces of information in there is there's a chart which Frankster Collar makes of the average wealth of a Chinese citizen from the warlord era, you know, when everyone's just killing each other, and then compares it through the decades.
	And amazingly, during Mao's time in the Great Leap Forward, people were in real terms poorer in every regard than they were during the Japanese occupation.
	Never mind the warlord era, they were much better off in the warlord era.
	So yeah, it's not that helpful.
	It's not very good, but any person who has read just a bit of 20th century history is aware of it and is not an ideologue.
	And also, this is the Tragedy of Liberation that you talked about, Frank de Korter, the book club you did.
	That's the first book, yeah.
	Yes.
	And also you could check what Conor did, The Real Communism Has Already Been Tried.
	This is a really interesting talk that Conor gives, and yeah, it's 45 minutes.
	Just go watch it.
	Okay, now, you can see this meme here with Stalin and the MAGA hat.
	I knew you would appreciate it.
	Anyway.
	The first sentence is just killing me.
	Okay, I'll let you go, and then I'm going to... Tell me, tell me.
	I got some thoughts, because Hinkle interacts with modern-day Russia a lot.
	And in modern-day Russia, this is kind of a real thing, where they'll take Stalin's stuff and just be like, yeah, he's just a patriot.
	And it works only in the Russian context.
	It's hard to explain properly.
	I've not put thought into making my words make sense.
	Was it because Stalin had the doctrine of socialism in one country?
	And they may say that he forwarded... It's not that theoretical.
	It's more just like he's our guy and his actions were our guy sense.
	Yes.
	So don't get into the theory, but what did he do?
	Well, you know, he gave us an empire.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Pretty, pretty our guy thing to do.
	Yeah.
	And he was really good to Russians.
	I'm obviously joking.
	Okay.
	I'm obviously joking.
	Okay.
	A specter is haunting American politics.
	The specter of MAGA communism.
	You know, MAGA Republicans have nothing to lose but their chains.
	Brides are brothers.
	OK, you kind of brought me on now.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so here it says a lot.
	It's just a funny article that you can read this by in Compact Mag.
	It says it talks about Hazel Dean and Jackson Hinkle.
	And basically what they're saying is that the premise of Alden's argument is that Trump fundamentally and irreversibly changed American politics.
	For the better if one believes in class struggle.
	Before 2016, the political landscape in the U.S.
	was confined to two choices, Democrat or Republican, that were situated along different points of a narrow establishment continuum.
	Anyone who didn't pledge allegiance to the status quo was relegated to the margins of the political system, if not regarded as an enemy of the state.
	With Trump, all this changed.
	For the first time in a long time, a mass movement emerged that situated itself outside the status quo, against the status quo.
	And anyway, they're basically saying that things like the primary contradiction in American politics is between MAGA and the status quo, and that MAGA is not Trump.
	They say something like, you know, Trump has initiated the MAGA movement, but the MAGA movement is really ripe for its class consciousness of all of us rising up.
	And I want you to watch Hazel Dean here.
	Where is the video?
	Is there a link missing?
	Um, yeah, there are three links missing.
	Anyway, it's okay.
	I'll just describe what was going on.
	It was, um, Hazel Dean is a debate bro by Michigan.
	And, um, he is a self, uh, he is associated with infrared.
	I think it's his YouTube account or something.
	Anyway.
	So what happens is that, um, he was invited on.
	On Rumble by Lucas Cage.
	Ah, we can watch a video here.
	Let's see if we can watch the first clip.
	Why don't you tell us a little about yourself, you know, where you're from, as far as you want to go, your past, up to you.
	The sound, anyway, it doesn't matter.
	I'll tell you what was going on.
	First of all, Hazal Dean is on the right.
	I don't know if the audio is clear or not.
	Yeah, I'm a streamer.
	I get no audio.
	Anyway, so, first of all, I must say the background is great.
	You have a golden scimitar.
	Some swords, a golden lion, the area that it seems that if you can melt it and create gold coins that Dan would love.
	Yeah, he's also sitting there in an Adidas tracksuit with a carpet on the wall.
	It's like, yeah, and a really nice carpet.
	I think it's a Persian carpet behind it.
	Anyway, so he says a lot of things you could, I mean, this is a really funny interview.
	The interesting thing is that he makes some base claims.
	One of it is, the first thing, how he came up with MAGA communism.
	He says that he was trying to talk to contemporary communists for two years, and his words, he saw that current communists in the West and the Left were murderous psychopaths who wanted to kill you if you disagreed with them.
	It is a kind of a base claim.
	On the other hand, I want to add, when were communists not murderous psychopaths?
	That's one question.
	It was refreshing to see this by him saying it.
	And anyway, it's just, what is really funny here is that, uh, at some point, a really crazy moment from the, from this interview is with Lucas Cage, who started saying, it doesn't matter if, uh, he said something like, let me just say here, so I don't exactly, he's in favor of common sense.
	And anyway, he was just saying that, saying that, Who cares if Stalin killed so many people?
	The point is now.
	And maybe Stalinists have something to offer.
	And the response by Hasaldin is... Anyway, he just says that he identifies as a Stalinist as well.
	Anyway, most of it, it seems to me, to be people who really want to find really interesting propagandistic and deliberately propagandistic term and they want to put it together.
	It seems to me that they don't really know what they're talking about, but they have had some people watching and they have appeared on things like Tim Cost and Tucker Carlson.
	And I want to end with the next clip.
	I want you to watch this and tell me if it seems to you that it kills our brain cells.
	Let's watch.
	No audio again.
	I can't hear anything.
	Unless we're just looking at Stalin propaganda, which... Anyway, if you don't listen to it, because we don't have audio, he's just making insane Stalinist propaganda.
	He's telling how Stalin was a man of simple means.
	of humble origins.
	I like thinking of the same about Trump.
	You know, he had the humble origins.
	Stalin started out with a small loan that he stole from the bank.
	Yes.
	Anyway, it's just insane Stalinist propaganda.
	But it seems to me that it's really weird that people nowadays say things like that.
	Like, you know, who cares if this happened?
	The history is written by the victors.
	It's a classic thing that they're trying to whitewash Stalin.
	Anyway, it's just...
	They're talking about how Stalin somehow united Russia and things like that.
	Anyway, it would be good if we had sound.
	It's made by some commie AI.
	Yep.
	And I can pause and... Anyway, it's just, we can go on the last link.
	I'll go.
	One of the worst tweets of all time.
	It says Karl Marx failed to consider just how dumb everyone is.
	Humans are just dumb apes who learn to talk good.
	We're way too stupid to realize that we should be doing Communism.
	I think that's one of the worst tweets of all time.
	Yeah.
	All right, fair enough.
	Do you think that it is a trollish form of Communism?
	I think he's been interacting with Russia too much and has come away with The Russian mindset applied to American politics.
	It's like learning a new language where your dreams change and things like that.
	Not to get all weird on you, but the Russians even have a term called Russian truth to explain a lot of things.
	And from an outside perspective, it just seems like they make shit up.
	But it does make sense in the Russian context.
	It's just impossible to translate into our context.
	I'd have to do some proper thinking about it.
	Even that would probably be a waste of time.
	Yeah, dude needs to calm it, probably.
	Anyway, I suppose we'll go to the last segment.
	So, how do you feel about pitbulls?
	Like pitbulls?
	Not so much.
	Yeah, me neither.
	So, uh, that's why I named this Please Don't Bully, because, uh, well, please no bully, because, uh, not a fan of, uh, pitbulls.
	I think pit mummies out there need to get the message.
	But anyway, bullying aside, we'll start off with providing something to LotusSeries.com, being the Ted's Cousin Series Industrial Society and its future.
	So we're going to check that out, put the club on the website, as all of the things that I promote.
	But we'll go to the, uh, pitbulls, because I've always been a fan of pitbull memes.
	I don't know if you've seen a few.
	So heroic pitbull runs back into a burning house.
	To bite one more child.
	I mean, you just love to see it.
	Anyway, but it's not just a dumb meme, because I didn't actually know this.
	I don't know why I didn't know this.
	I feel like it's something I would know.
	There's a list of banned dogs in the UK, and it obviously includes, well, pit bull terriers.
	There you are.
	And then three other kinds of dog.
	All of them because they were bred for fighting other dogs.
	Okay.
	Which, you know.
	It's just for putting them in and betting who is going to win.
	Yeah.
	It is back when dogfighting was a thing.
	And it's not, hasn't been in the UK for probably a hundred something years, probably.
	If not just decades.
	Are there roosters?
	I think cockfighting is still a thing.
	Is that legal?
	I don't know if it's legal, but I'm sure people do it.
	I say cock, aren't we?
	We're talking about cocks.
	When cocks are fighting, we're allowed to talk about cockfighting.
	I'm talking about our roosters.
	Yeah, cocks.
	What?
	That's the name!
	Haven't cocks been banned in the UK?
	I don't know if cocks have been banned.
	Well, you're still allowed to own cocks.
	I don't know if you're allowed to fight with your cock though.
	You can't have your cocks fighting each other.
	That would be obscene.
	Because it's animal cruelty.
	That's the reason.
	Anyway, back to the bullies.
	Yeah.
	So, they're banned.
	There you are.
	There's the list.
	Banned dogs.
	It's also illegal to blah blah blah.
	Who cares?
	But the solution, if we find you with a banned dog in the UK, is we assess the dog.
	Is it a danger to the public?
	If yes, bang.
	If not, cut its balls off and it must be on a muzzle for the rest of its public life.
	It'll take the muzzle off when it's home, obviously, to eat or bite your children, whichever one it does.
	But some guy made a thread because there's this conversation that's perked up about XL bullies.
	XL American bullies, extra large American bulldogs, which I didn't know we were a thing.
	I don't know about you.
	You don't own dogs, do you?
	I have a Yorkshire Terrier.
	Do you?
	Yes.
	In Greece.
	Oh, OK.
	You don't own one in the UK?
	No.
	Show me pictures.
	I like dogs.
	I will.
	I like dogs.
	I don't like owning dogs.
	Yeah.
	I can't be bothered with the clean up and the mess.
	I could probably deal with one if I'm honest, but mostly I like petting them.
	Just, you know, other people's dogs.
	So I don't keep up with the whole breed thing.
	You know when you talk to dog owners and they talk about different breeds of dogs and... Yes.
	Which ones?
	I don't know what breeds are.
	I don't know what they're called.
	It's just the one that looks like a sausage, the one that's fuzzing.
	Yeah, I'm not good with remembering most of the kinds, but I'm okay with some.
	It's not just me then?
	No, no, no.
	It's not just you.
	So this XL American bully had completely sidelined me, but I thought I'd actually seen a couple in Swindon.
	And what they are is they're just these huge, muscly motherfuckers who, well, I don't feel like I could win in a fight with one.
	And a lot of other people have not been winning in fights with them in the UK.
	Because, as mentioned earlier, while the pitbulls are banned, the extra large American bull, where it doesn't reach the definition, so it's allowed to have slipped the net in the UK, and a few people have brought them, most notably the people who, well, notice them walking around are chavs, drug dealers, you know the like, who might need an extremely aggressive fighting dog.
	Because that's what it is, an extremely aggressive fighting dog.
	Okay, cool.
	So there's a load of videos that have gone viral of the extremely aggressive fighting dogs being really aggressive and fighting people.
	A shock, I know.
	Anyway, here's a whole bunch of stuff.
	Dogs being dogs.
	Yeah, but it's not dogs, is it?
	What is it?
	Like your chihuahua is not going to kill you?
	You're going to win that fight?
	Yes, but I mean, if you want extra protection...
	Yeah, what's going on?
	Let's see.
	This is the XLB.
	I mean, we're not going to watch it, but... Well, we're supposed to.
	We are going to watch it.
	I'm going to get rid of that, but... It's like three people getting muled properly by one of them.
	And this dude's got some data, just to make the point.
	I mean, he says here there have been three deaths in recent years, even though, like, you know, dog deaths have been completely zero in the UK for a long time.
	2020, that changed.
	Ten people died to dogs, including four children.
	One breed responsible for 70% of the deaths.
	despite making up a very small percentage.
	You can see the data here, that red bit.
	That's the American bully type.
	There you are.
	A bit overrepresented.
	Yes.
	That's all I'm going to say about that.
	And then he's got some articles about the people who have been killed, which, you know, some kids and then a few dog handlers also got killed.
	So people who were specially trained to handle vicious dogs were killed by these dogs because these dogs are beefy.
	I didn't realize how beefy.
	Well, they weren't trained enough then.
	I don't know about that.
	Why?
	Well, this is the debate, which is, you know, one side is like, oh, it's the dog owners.
	And these people, this guy here specifically is like, yeah, you know, dog owners are a thing, but also so are breeds.
	And I've got a theory about this, which is, so there's a debate about banning them, which is the reason this whole is blown up.
	But maybe you'll agree or disagree with me.
	Yes.
	When I think about whether or not a dog should be banned, I look at it and think, could I probably kill that?
	Or could I stop it enough so it's not going to kill me?
	Could I fight this dog?
	I feel like most men, that's probably how we think about it.
	Should we ban this dog?
	You reckon I could fight that?
	And looking at these things, I mean, I'll load up the last image here, which, like, I'm not fighting that.
	I think it'll kill me.
	But it has killed quite a few people recently.
	Seven of them, at least, in the last year.
	It depends if you want to emerge from the fight unscathed.
	Yeah, I want my nose.
	I mean, I know it's messed up.
	I broke it when I was a kid, but I'd rather keep the rest of it if I can do that.
	Never mind my arms or whatever else.
	It's an opportunity for glory.
	Well, to fight to the extra large.
	Are you offering?
	Because I'll set that off.
	No, no, I won't.
	I don't want to get killed.
	I want my nose as well.
	Yeah.
	I was just talking about other people's glory.
	I have enough.
	Don't worry.
	But anyway, this guy, he's pointing out, it's not just the deaths.
	The main thing, which I think is more important, frankly, you know, deaths happen.
	I really am getting sensitized.
	Deaths happen, whatever.
	But here's the attacks.
	So there you are.
	22% of all violent attacks in the UK are from one breed.
	The Bully XL.
	How many Bully XLs are there?
	A bugger all, because they're relatively new.
	A few people own them, that's about it.
	So, there you are.
	And the next one just being the mix.
	So, there you are.
	Disproportional violence from a certain breed.
	Anyway, there's more going on.
	He lists in here about his government's guidance, the reasons it slipped through, as I mentioned earlier.
	That doesn't reach the 1970s definition.
	Whatever.
	And there's a campaign to actually get rid of all the bannings on pitbulls and the other fighting dogs, and, well, keep this one legal as well.
	Funnily enough, I didn't know this, but apparently it's from the RSPCA, who run, like, weird propaganda like this.
	This image here, if you're listening.
	How they see me, and it's a dangerous dog, and then the real me, best friend.
	Yeah.
	But he's only happy.
	Who's best friend?
	That's the question.
	Yeah.
	Like he's only your best friend after he's ripped off the four year old's nose and has calmed down.
	So I don't know.
	I'm not a fan.
	Yeah.
	I'm not a fan of that.
	I have a really violent, vicious dog that's been bred to be really violent and vicious because the whole purpose of its breed is to fight other dogs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't want to be around that.
	I don't want to be rude, but I just don't want to pet.
	Yeah.
	You got something smaller?
	Like a pet?
	Something I could probably strangle?
	I have three cats, but Django is the bigger one.
	You named your cat Django?
	Yeah, the D silent.
	You know, it's funny because in the beginning, he's black and white, but what's fun is that we gender affirmed him in the beginning.
	The first vet told us it's a she, and we called him Gloria.
	And it messed him up, and then we wanted to elevate him with a name, and we started calling him Django.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and he's absolutely feral.
	He's really good with me, he obeys and stuff, but when he sees others... So you're like a pet mummy, but with Django.
	Like, he loves you, he's great, and you're like... Yes.
	Okay.
	There we are.
	There's the reason and the argument around them, but I am... I'm not...
	I don't know how much I want to step in this.
	I'll give you my opinion, which is if I can kill it, I think it should be legal.
	I don't think the one on the right is a pit bull, is it?
	Well, they're both cartoons.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, neither of them are real representations of the dogs, which if you wanted the real one.
	Yeah, but it doesn't seem as a representation of a pit bull.
	Yeah.
	It's way too sweet.
	It's way too cute.
	Here's the American XL.
	It just looks like the devil, this photo here.
	I mean, dogs can be laid to look bad at the best of times, but I mean, Do you want a four-year-old?
	Honestly, a possessed dog.
	It's like Cujo from Stephen King, you know, with the possessed dog.
	But if your neighbor comes around with one of those on the lead, and you've got a four-year-old, are you really going to go on?
	No, no, no.
	Stroke him.
	Stop being racist.
	Go and stroke the dog.
	It's just because the other thing as well is like it's not even the uh vicious aspect it's it's because you always see and we'll get to this in a bit I suppose but I think you see one here actually one of these screenshots that's not that one maybe it's the uh previous link kind of rambling because I really want to go with this you know you know I do these segments where they're kind of a bit of a mess but yeah that's that's how I like to have fun this lady this lady here do you think she can actually hold that dog back?
	No.
	And apparently she didn't.
	Absolutely not.
	Because apparently it decides we're going to kill someone else's dog.
	Because, you know, the funniest thing is when you see old ladies having huge dogs.
	How are you going to restrain that?
	Some tiny white girl has got this, well, beast killer.
	Literally did kill a beast there.
	I don't trust... No.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we mentioned earlier, I mean, there are some dog handlers which...
	I don't want to mess with dog handlers.
	Don't mind their dogs.
	If they get killed by their dogs, I don't want the little white woman who's like, oh, he's so cute.
	Look, he's your friend.
	And he's there like dripping.
	I don't want to.
	Your child declined to put its hand in its mouth.
	You're a racist, dad.
	Anyway, but there's the RSPCA's official, which is bring all of them back.
	There's some more.
	I mean, again, what the hell is this?
	Their only crime is how they look.
	Free speech for dogs.
	Just let them speak.
	Dogs are like, we've been cancelled.
	The only crime is how they look, and also the four-year-old they killed, which, again, I know it's a meme, but it's not an unfunny meme, because it's true.
	It keeps happening.
	Anyway, a whole bunch of videos went viral, so the Home Secretaries can't be like, I'm thinking about banning them.
	Probably will, it's Britain.
	There's one thing happens in the inner cities, and all of a sudden, Okay, cool.
	So, that's probably where this is going.
	There's some videos, if you want to watch the videos.
	I don't, because I probably like this video staying up and being deleted from YouTube for graphic violence.
	But we can see here, Bully Watch, which is some Twitter account that lobbies for banning the bully.
	Okay, cool.
	They mention here, somehow, it apparently makes up 43% of all dogs' attacks.
	Yeah.
	Despite being a very, very small percentage of the population, I don't know what percentage, probably less than one.
	I think that they understand how people treat them and what people say.
	And maybe it messes up with their psychology and they need to be more affirmed and more respected than granted political rights.
	Like the docs.
	Yes.
	Well, I suppose their only crime is how they look.
	I mean, again, sorry, I just thought... No, but that is the reason why this particular breed is more aggressive than the other.
	I'm sure that's the reason.
	It denies political rights.
	It has nothing to do with biology, but it has to do with them being denied political rights.
	Not because it's a fighting animal that was bred for fighting, and as a result, it's just horrific.
	But anyway, there's some more footage there.
	This one in Birmingham.
	So, of course, it's a problem in the Pakistani community.
	Oh, God, don't look like that.
	All right, but there's a good one in Britain.
	And this is where I find the whole thing more funny, because the Political debate in the UK in the mainstream is so stupid, it's...
	Everything they do is a car crash.
	Like, I remember once when I worked at the car, we were still running Sargon of Akkad, and a car had this idea, which was a pretty good idea to be honest, which is he wanted to do an episode every day of Good Morning Britain, because it's a TV show in the UK, like a morning show, which always has some political bent about something.
	And, well, they also just have, like, severe down syndrome, because I'm not allowed to say the word retarded, So, and the Down Syndrome is just, like, unbelievable.
	They'll just have these ridiculous debates with these ridiculous guests, with nobody making any interesting points, and it'd just be a train wreck.
	So, Karl's gonna do these reaction videos to it.
	I mean, this would be one of them if we were still doing that.
	So we have some black London kid who's got a dog there, who's the ex-owl bully who could probably kill him, that's for sure.
	Defending it by being like, oh, it's just bad odour, so you don't know how to take care of them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's right.
	Sure, man.
	That breed doesn't matter whatsoever.
	Chihuahua?
	Massive thing that could kill me?
	Basically, you did the same.
	Just the owners are to blame if one of them can kill me and one of them can't.
	I love the idea that there's almost like an opposite way there.
	Like, you're only really a good owner of a Chihuahua if you can get your Chihuahua to kill someone.
	If you're not able to, then clearly something's wrong with you as an owner.
	Or you've over-owned it or something.
	Whatever.
	Dumb argument.
	Breed obviously matters.
	You made it soft.
	Yeah, you made this chihuahua soft.
	It can't even rip out a four-year-old's face.
	Loser.
	Anyway, they have some other guy on to make the counterpoint.
	And the easiest counterpoint in the world, obviously.
	You'd sit there and be like, no, breed matters.
	Here's the data.
	You know, this is why people are arguing for banning it.
	And instead, this white dude here, he just comes out with That it was created in the hip-hop scene for a hip-hop reason?
	That's just like, no.
	No, that's definitely not true.
	Is it supposed to be the case that the dog was created for a hip-hop reason?
	Well, it was created to fight other dogs by people who do dog fighting.
	And this dude just comes out and says they're made in the hip-hop scene, which I mean, yeah, hip hop guys like fighting dogs, but they didn't make them.
	I mean, a lot of people have been listening to that and going, is that a dog whistle or something?
	Because that's a really weird thing to say.
	And articulately put, inarticulately put, if you want to go and listen to the whole thing, I can't be bothered because it's like two minutes of normies just making not useful points, frankly.
	Good morning, Britain has a lot of that.
	Well, that was our reason for just thinking, like, man, we should do response videos to this, because this is just painful.
	How many 40-year-olds are sitting there watching TV still?
	40-plus, I suppose.
	And watching, I mean, probably all five people at Good Morning Britain.
	Look at how peaceful it is.
	It's just before it's about to fall asleep.
	Yeah.
	You know, all things sleep, including lions.
	But you can see here, I love this photo, though, that Karl showed me, which is the pole at the bottom whilst the dog is on screen.
	Should the American Pit Bulls be banned?
	80% say yes.
	It's like, I'm sorry, lassie.
	The poll says what the poll says!
	Anyway, but that's the one kind of owner that the media have there, you know, the black kid who can't control it and thinks that there's, uh, it's fine, trust me, violence is part of life, and then you have this, you know, tiny white woman sitting around being like, oh it's fine, look, he's so cute, look, he's cute, he's being cute!
	Yeah, I bet he is!
	I mean, this is the thing people don't seem to understand about violence, or people, I don't know, forget?
	I guess?
	Because Americans are used to violence.
	It's a very violent place.
	You have a lot of killings.
	So I would have thought the population would be more used to understanding violence.
	I think they are, probably.
	It's the UK population I'm talking about that seems to be mad.
	Which is that, yeah, it only has to be violent 1% of the time.
	But when it's violent that 1% of the time, I mean, that's a toddler's face.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, like, you know, you go to Kabul, it's fine.
	It certainly is.
	But, you know, if you're in that truck bomb, well, you're dead.
	So that's the point.
	But no one seems to get that.
	I love it.
	Look, it's cute.
	Look, Billy.
	Hello.
	Oh, look, he's so friendly.
	Yeah, but he is a fighting dog bred for fighting.
	Sorry, I don't want to risk it.
	That's the issue.
	Yeah, I can't kill him.
	You don't even need to kill him.
	I was about to say beat off the dog, but that sounds wrong.
	Beat back the dog.
	That doesn't help.
	Beat back better the dog.
	Disable a dog?
	Can you disable the dog that's trying to kill you?
	Let's go with that before people make stupid things.
	But again, it's like, you know, it's only violent some of the time.
	Here's a story about it killing 22 sheep.
	Not that specific one, obviously.
	Two XL bully dogs shot dead after killing 22 pregnant sheep.
	Whoa, they went on a rampage.
	Why 22?
	To be honest, I mean, firstly, that's kind of impressive.
	Yeah.
	They eat all of them.
	But you know those working dogs, I forget what breed it is, but when farmers have to kill the rats?
	Yeah.
	So you bring a whole bunch of dogs, and you pick up the ground and little rats come running out.
	Yeah.
	And the dogs go mental, kill them.
	They go on a killing spree.
	Yeah, but these things here are putting a whole sheep in its mouth going, killing 22 sheep by the looks of it.
	So yeah, if that thing can kill 22 sheep, I don't know if I can kill 22 sheep.
	With your bare hands, could you kill 22 sheep?
	Could you kill one sheep with your bare hands?
	I kill a chicken once, but I see you just pull off the head.
	I mean, you're with a sheep.
	So, I mean, if he can kill more than me, I don't want to meet him.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I think that's how most people think about banning animals.
	Tell me if I'm wrong.
	Could you kill an XL Pit Bull Terrier?
	Post a comment below about what you think you could kill.
	I'm going to be honest with you, delusional people are going to be like, I could kill a rhino.
	Yeah, or I could fight a bear.
	Do you remember that?
	I think it was a while back where a lot of Americans were talking about how they could kill a mountain lion.
	Yeah.
	And then people who lived near the mountain lions were just like, no, you can't.
	Or they could fight barehanded with bears.
	Very optimistic.
	Fly away, putting that.
	All right, some more news in here.
	I mean, like this guy here being like, it's not the exile bully, it's the owner.
	Same argument as it's not the gun, it's the gun owner.
	I hate this.
	Yeah, I hate it.
	And what is interesting is that the argument that they are making is structurally the same with other woke, silly arguments that, you know, what the individual brings with him or her, you know, Biology plays zero matters not.
	But it's all about how something has been socialized.
	But it's not the same thing.
	It's not, but they're making the same argument.
	It's just some people who are really bored and they apply the same kind of thinking to everything.
	Yeah, but I mean, in this case specifically, huge numbers of people, I just picked some random tweet, but everyone arguing about this is like, well, what about guns?
	They're not the same.
	Guns aren't conscious animals that you have to take care of, otherwise they kill people.
	No, you pick them up and you kill people.
	Gun killed 22 sheep on its own.
	Yeah, had to be put down.
	Just a huge waste of time from that.
	But that wasn't most focus of people when they were talking about this.
	I mean, you had a bunch of people, as I mentioned, stupidly talking about guns.
	The biggest focus was black people.
	You knew where this was gonna go, because of course a load of left-wing people got involved and started chatting.
	Michael over here, who I'm actually not disliking of.
	I find him interesting.
	Most people in the office disagree with me, but that's fine.
	He starts talking about the estate he lives on, where there's a load of media-stereotyped owners of those dogs, young black men.
	And this person responds with, why is he bringing black people into this?
	I've never seen a black person with American Bully XL.
	You would have a sheltered life then, for one.
	The whole conversation would have to suddenly become about black people, I suppose, because we're in the West, why not?
	I mean, the next one here, just someone saying, Friendly reminder that the pitbull slander is one small step away from alt-right racism.
	Okay.
	Quote, this group is only X percentage of the population as Y percentage of the violence is literally a neo-Nazi talking point.
	It's also a statistical reality.
	Shut up.
	I just, yeah, it's so childish.
	It's like, yeah, you want to kill all the Jews.
	Why?
	Well, because you've read about pitbull statistics.
	What?
	Just insane.
	Like, again, Down syndrome.
	Pure Down syndrome from Mr. Smith over here.
	And he's not the only one.
	A lot of people start responding with memes.
	XL bullies could be here.
	He's smoking nearby petrol.
	Do you not know this meme or not?
	No.
	I think it's the Jimmy Dore filling up his car.
	But for some reason a picture of him went viral where he's looking around.
	And people being like, you know, they could be around here.
	I am really scared of them.
	Anyway, memes people enjoy.
	And then Ash Sarkar decided to turn up and join the chat, which... Wings over Scotland.
	I mean, good job here.
	I don't think I can comment on any of this part of this video.
	I'm going to try not to comment on most of this, to be honest, just trying to present.
	She's going to read her tweets, I guess, and end it off there.
	So Ash Sarkar decided to join the chat and say, I live in an area where a lot of young guys own American Bully XLs, often un-neutered and sometimes walking around off the lead.
	I found myself actively avoiding them and feeling kind of paranoid in the presence of the XLs.
	I like where she says the dogs, not the guys.
	How does she know?
	Oh, you can check.
	I get that people say it's irresponsible owners, not dangerous breeds.
	That's the issue.
	How am I meant to identify a responsible dog owner on site?
	If I was a parent of a young child or owned a small dog breed, I reckon I'd feel very strongly about the ban.
	And then someone at the end saying, can you not tell the dangerous dogs from the docile ones?
	I have nothing to say on any of this.
	I don't want to get my foot shoved in my throat for crimes against the state, like those pensions.
	So we'll leave it there.
	And we'll have some arguments in the comments.
	I mean, I know like a lady in the States, she swears by her pitbulls.
	Yeah.
	But I ain't patting them.
	That's all I'm saying.
	So we'll end it there.
	I can't hear you.
	Okay, but that's fine.
	Well, we'll end that there.
	Thanks, Jon.
	Sorry about that.
	We're not going to play the video comments today because the tech is broken.
	It's all broken, so sad.
	Instead, we should go to the written comments, I suppose, and feast off of those.
	So, on the very serious crimes, Omar Awad says, Sincerely, it's a very sad day for Britain.
	This day.
	Lord Nerevar says, I love the way we literally don't have a police force anymore, it's just a moral busybody inquisition, while actual crime runs rampant in the streets.
	Thanks Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Johnson, Sunak.
	We need a word to collectivise those people.
	I mean, because at least Blair... BBCMJS.
	No, but I mean like Blair, we've got to kind of take him out of it because at least he did the dirty.
	Like the rest of them just did the nothing.
	So, but you're not wrong.
	We'll just sit by and let the dirty get worse.
	Shaker Silva says, I really wonder how ideological it is and how much it comes down to impotence.
	What?
	Coppers can't get their cocks up, what?
	The police know that they're ill-equipped to solve real problems thanks to their taskmaster's agenda, so they just have to make up ways to arrest people for more easily arrestable crimes, to seem like they're doing something.
	I agree completely with this.
	You think that's really what they're doing?
	Yes.
	Can't be bothered.
	I don't know.
	I mean, when you go and meet the police officers involved, I mean, the younger ones especially.
	But to be honest, I've had this constantly.
	We go and meet ex-police officers who have left, they're all... I don't want to be too mean.
	40 plus?
	Okay, yeah.
	All of them are actually interesting people who have done good things with their time, at least the ones I've met.
	Well, they'll tell you stories about the stuff they got up to or how they managed to get this guy sent down because he's an evil bastard.
	Yes.
	And, you know, he would have got off otherwise without... I'll tell a story.
	I'll tell a story.
	Alright, so there's a guy I met who...
	He knew a couple down the road, and she would always turn up with black eyes, blah blah blah.
	So they knew he was beating her.
	And then they started getting phone calls from her to the house.
	They turn up, they take him out, and then she'd stop wanting to press charges.
	Take him out?
	Police station.
	Oh.
	Because he's beating his wife.
	So then they take him to the station, and then she'd, like, get all emotional and stop pressing charges and be like, it's fine, it's fine, fine, and then they'd have to let him go.
	Anyway, so finally this guy's enough, and he doesn't do the mic thing of no half measures.
	Instead, he does something which is more legal.
	I'm not saying that there aren't many good police officers.
	and then they decide they're going to question him before she changes her mind.
	So he sits down with this guy who's been beating his wife and just starts taunting him.
	He'll be like, so you like beating women, do you?
	And then just starts prodding him more and more until eventually the guy goes to hit the police officer and then they grab him to the ground for assault and he gets done for that instead.
	So at least he went down for something.
	I'm not saying that there aren't many good police officers.
	I think it's a bureaucracy that is causing the trouble.
	But my point being, like those 40-up people, they actually would do kind of dodgy stuff like that, but there's a reason there.
	It's a common good actually going through the logic.
	Whereas the newcomers, they're actually insane retards.
	Have you seen the, what happened in West Yorkshire with, um, with a cop, the autistic 16 year old?
	Well, that's what I mean.
	Yeah.
	Because she said, you look like my lesbian Nana.
	Yeah, and how old was that police officer that got all butthurt?
	Not very old.
	They're all like young morons.
	But that's the issue that they're creating new categories of crime and they say they hate speech.
	And then they're saying we're fighting hate speech.
	Most of the victims of hate speech are police officers, according to some studies.
	And then that's how they're able to virtue signal and say that we're doing more job.
	Well, we are fighting crime.
	But it's not because they're sitting there and be like, I need to bump my numbers up or the captain's going to be mad at me.
	It's because they're a bunch of butthurt morons.
	Like that lady in that example.
	But also, we went over, I'll show you after, there's a great YouTube channel called Crime Bodge.
	And he does a really good job of like, here's some footage of police officers and here's all the laws they broke.
	So I sued them, I got all this money.
	There's always a good ending to it, like he literally gets cash out of it.
	Yes.
	By helping the individual who was wrongfully arrested or whatever.
	And there's this one guy who didn't like that he called him, I don't know, Babyface or something.
	Started coming to Crime Bodge's house, will warrant for his arrest.
	And it's just like, yeah, it's for a voluntary interview.
	So you have to come out.
	It's like, it was not very voluntary for saying you've got to arrest me, Isaac.
	So yeah, I mean, the hate crime thing seemingly is just the police officers being butt-hurt morons.
	It's usually the young ones, am I?
	That's the young ones, usually.
	Yeah, I think that really is a generational problem.
	Angel Brain says, well, Brian, I'm stupid and can't read.
	It's been going on for a while now.
	The BBC can spot a racist copper from three miles away, though seemingly unable to spot a nonce sat across from the table.
	They couldn't spot a nonce if it was raping a kid.
	Vesta Wolf says, growing up on a council estate in the 70s and 80s, this was considered banter among the races, not racism.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Life was better.
	Weird how that worked.
	Matt P says, I can't believe a geriatric ex-copper sent a meme.
	How will we recover?
	To be honest, there's actually a fear.
	I mean, the boomers are evolving.
	Yeah.
	They're learning.
	It's like Skynet.
	Yeah.
	They're going to take over the world.
	At least when they were all on Boomer Book, like Boomer Book would do its boomer memes.
	Yeah.
	But now they're getting into WhatsApp and whatnot.
	You know how 4chan will invent a new meme format?
	Or like, there'll be a new meme format on Instagram or something, right?
	Well, let's take an example like Pepe.
	You know, Pepe becoming the meme that he is, right?
	Do you reckon the boomers in their group chats on WhatsApp are gonna start creating meme formats?
	Yeah.
	And then they're gonna leak into our chats?
	Yes.
	And then they're gonna have to explain the meme format to us?
	Okay.
	By the way, I love the Calvin Candy memes.
	Calvin Candy?
	Yeah, you know, from... Oh, Django, yeah.
	Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio and his drinking.
	Do you ever do it with your cat?
	Yeah, he has very funny memes.
	Imagine you're at home now with a little cat skull.
	Sit Django down and explain to him the three dimples on the back of the cat skull.
	Won't get any for Christmas.
	Anyway, Ross Diggle says, catch em, catch em, gotta catch em all, racist metamon?
	I don't know if that works.
	You try it out.
	It's like Pokemon.
	Yeah, I get the reference, but I don't think it...
	Maybe I didn't sing it properly.
	It was my fault.
	Anyway.
	Gotta catch them all, yeah.
	Let's go to the megacommunism.
	Magacommunism, not megacommunism.
	Okay, Baron Von Warhawk.
	Stelios, to answer your question, Stalinist Trotskyism already exists, and ironically the most fundamental member of this ideology was Stalin himself.
	The gulags and the purge of the kulaks were all Trotsky's ideas, and he created the plans to kill the so-called enemies.
	Yes, I mean, I'm not saying that I agree with the Trotskys who say that Trotsky was a saint and if he was in power, nothing bad would have happened, but I was thinking more of the conflict between those two, because essentially they did have the same ideology.
	Again, when it comes to that Baron von Warhoek, when it comes to that guy who thinks we can learn from China, I have two words for you.
	Tofu construction.
	It doesn't matter if their economy outpaces us, if their buildings are made of styrofoam and the bridges are made of corn cobs.
	SH Silva.
	There's nothing to be said that both MAGA and communists are both populists that hate the elitist neoliberal status quo.
	In fact, the initial base from Occupy was more libertarian before black block subversion.
	However, the critic of the system comes from hugely different angles.
	Yes.
	And one of the annoying things with communists is that they constantly think that they are the only ones who could ever be in favor of the interests of the working class.
	That somehow having a free market doesn't benefit the everyday people.
	This is, I mean, ideological nonsense.
	Ewan Baker, Comey logic is basically, we solve poverty.
	The people who are poor, dead.
	Yeah, it's like those people who say that in the USSR there was low unemployment.
	It's easy to have low unemployment if you kill and exile a significant part of the population.
	Arizona?
	Literally, if we tried killing all the unemployed.
	Yeah.
	Arizona desert rat.
	Nope.
	No communism.
	Thank you very much.
	Communism always makes anti-religion and anti-family.
	It's happened in every country that has tried communism and the economic benefits are absolute bunk.
	Yes.
	And it's so infuriating when you see people like the latter one in the interview.
	With the interviewer who was saying, well, it doesn't matter that it has happened so many times in the past, doesn't mean it's going to happen again in the future.
	Le French Ghost.
	Jackson Hinkle attempts to make communists good by changing the definition to something completely different.
	He then picks and chooses the good things about the USSR and China, completely ignoring the worst.
	He's no different than the Democrats claiming to fight for democracy.
	Alexander Dake.
	A Christian communism.
	There's no such thing.
	Communism is not compatible with Christianity.
	The Bible affirms private property.
	This guy is either a troll or a moron.
	There's a third possibility.
	Both.
	Vesta Wolf.
	Feminism is communism, or at least the gateway in the West and pure evil.
	Baron von Warhawk, I don't trust anything this so-called MAGA commie says after all the woke-minded Gen Xer of today is a result of commie indoctrination.
	Yes, and it's interesting that they were talking about, you know, the left nowadays is bad.
	The left nowadays is murderous psychopaths.
	Yeah, but who created the left of nowadays?
	It's neo-Marxism.
	And Matt P., MAGA communism is peak terminally online.
	Yeah.
	Please, no bully.
	I really want to.
	I don't know how to explain it, but there is something to it in a Russian context only, though, like in an English speaking context.
	Yeah, it's just fricking madness.
	What are you talking about?
	What is it?
	You've started now thinking in both languages now.
	I can't speak the language very well, but it's just when you interact with the political worlds, They have a weird level of tolerance.
	How much vodka do you have?
	No, you don't need to.
	I don't blame you.
	I love it.
	One of the groups of people I actually met, they don't drink, they don't do drugs.
	What was the other thing they don't do?
	Something bad.
	Yeah, something bad.
	Communism.
	Drugs.
	Most of the stupid people.
	Oh, smoking.
	Yeah.
	They don't do smoking.
	They're like really weird, like straight and narrow kind of right wingers.
	Yeah.
	And even they are sitting around being like, yeah, so Soviet Union, patriotism and imperialism all mixed together with my ideology.
	Yes.
	Just like complete.
	Yeah.
	But like to our ears, it just sounds like utter madness.
	But when you sit down and hang out with them, like it's, it's hard to explain, but it does make sense.
	But isn't that worrying?
	Because it's like, if you had lots of people who say mad things, Yeah, but they're not mad in that context.
	It's like the Nazbols.
	So the National Bolsheviks are a complete joke in the West that you bring up like extreme centrists.
	Like, I'm a centrist of the extreme or some JREC nonsense, right?
	But Nazbols in Russia do actually make sense.
	They're weird there, don't get me wrong, but it is coherent.
	Very, very unusual.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry this is going so badly.
	Let me try and explain that.
	It's okay.
	I'm sure it makes sense.
	I'm gonna have to send you stuff.
	I'll just keep sending you shitty memes until it makes sense.
	Just a smear of Moscow or something would be nice.
	Yeah.
	I'd appreciate that.
	Yeah, if you want.
	So on the please no bully situation, Omar Awad says, giving a bulldog Giving a bulldog to a small white woman is like trusting a self-declared pedo to babysit your kids.
	It might not end horrifically, but I wouldn't chance it.
	Omar, I think you're right.
	The phraseology did remind me of, I can't remember the movie now, but the musical one, where he just says, would you trust a retard with a calculator?
	Brian Warhawk says, despite making up 6% of the dog population, pit bulls are responsible for 80% of all child mauling in the United States.
	So there you have it.
	There's some data.
	It's bad owners, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	Someone online says I was attacked by a pit bull once.
	Morbidly obese owners didn't help.
	Will they not at least weigh her down?
	All they did was scream and wave their arms.
	Yeah, I mean this is what I mean, where it's like... I'm trying to think of dog breeds now, but let's say a Cocker Spaniel.
	They're lovely.
	Small, lovable, bit of art.
	Usually brown.
	Yeah.
	Let's say that had a really bad owner, and it turned it into something that would attack you.
	You could punch the crap out of that thing.
	You could hold it down with one hand.
	It's going to bite you, it's going to hurt, but you could smash that thing's skull in.
	No problem with your bare hands, most likely.
	And that's how I view it, because the obese owners there aren't going to help, and you've got to, you know, objectively survive.
	Whereas if it's an exile bully, you're not smashing that thing's skull in, you're gonna die.
	That thing's gonna rip your throat out.
	It's bad that that happened to you, someone online.
	I mean, that's the sad thing about society.
	They could say that about tigers and lions, actually.
	Why not just release the zoo?
	It's all just a matter of... It's just bad owners.
	Yeah, it's just bad owners.
	I mean, you're not wrong.
	But that's the thing about lions that I kind of hate, is you've got to assume, even if you take like a pit bull, which, yeah, you know, you can usually take care of them.
	There's still like an 8% of the tax, but still.
	You don't have memes with lions saying, come on, please, just... RCCA says, why am I in jail?
	Open the cage.
	Open this cage.
	I want to hug you.
	Yeah.
	You know, you've got to prepare for the owner that isn't a beast moron or a tiny white woman who can't even slightly control the thing.
	So, Arizona Desert Rad says, the large American pits can be huge.
	They can reach, I assume it's meant to say, 170 pounds easily.
	Good lord.
	They're mostly used as guard dogs, but you have to know what you're doing in order to handle them, even in the States.
	You have to have a license to raise and train them.
	Yeah, I mean, as mentioned in the UK, I think the chap mentioned there were two of the three people he was talking about were killed, were dog owners, like dog handlers for rehomed vicious dogs, and they killed two of the trainers.
	So, I mean, you could not get a more capable owner and he's ended up dead.
	You'll be arrested.
	Sorry?
	Says, apparently pointing out that bully breeds are responsible for most of the deaths in the UK is racist now.
	Yeah, I don't know how that happened.
	I don't know who suddenly thought black people would be.
	You'll be arrested.
	Sorry?
	You'll be arrested after this segment.
	No, I think Ash Sarka needs to be arrested for putting that in my brain.
	Angel Brain says, I think one of the biggest issues with pitbulls is that any in the UK are from unknown lineage, so ironically making them illegal has worsened the problem.
	Make no mistake, if they go for you, they really will go.
	They have box jaws so they can latch and rip like crazy and tend to weigh a lot, so good luck fighting them off.
	I can get to a crazy weight of over 100 pounds, up to around 140 pounds even, which is 11 stone pure muscle armed with teeth.
	The only dogs I've seen stronger than the pits is the English Bull Terrier, which are strong beyond your belief.
	I mean, I suppose so, but my response to that would be that we need to change the law not to unban them, but instead to shoot them on sight, because I'm a big fan of that.
	I know it sounds mean, but...
	You know how we got rid of rabies in the UK?
	Has any dog attacked you in the past?
	No, I just... Because we're an island, we have this beautiful ability to actually purge the island of whatever we don't want.
	Okay.
	So, rabies doesn't exist in one place on Earth, and that's here.
	You go out and let some dogs, you know, bite you.
	Put your hands in their mouths and play with their teeth.
	But the thing is, you won't get rabies from it.
	Because they haven't got rabies.
	Because we exterminated from the island.
	And the way we did that is just one day in the 1800s, some newspapers read a few articles about how... moral panic about rabies.
	And then the government issued that every stray dog needed to be killed, and they did.
	And we killed every dog from Cornwall to Scotland.
	And now the island is pure of rabies.
	So...
	I mean, this isn't mainland Europe where you actually have borders to worry about.
	We can actually solve these problems with pretty vicious means, but it does solve the problem forever.
	As long as you enforce the borders coming from France, which...
	Yeah, I suppose it's an if, but it's worked with rabies, so just need to expand the working with other things.
	Rose Gornella says, in every generation there's a panic about a different dog breed.
	If we had a panic about German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Doberman, Pinschers and now Pit Bulls.
	What it comes down to is this, getting a dog should not be taken lightly.
	You should know the average temperament of different breeds and then decide which one is right for you and your situation.
	So many people get a certain breed because they like the dog's aesthetic, Not seeming to understand that it's a living creature with a personality even beyond the bare traits of the breed.
	I mean, I agree.
	You know, if you're going to get a dog, actually do your research.
	And most dogs are incredibly needy.
	They're not like cats that they just don't care.
	Yeah.
	Most of them, they just don't care.
	Dogs, if they're insanely needy, if you're away from them five minutes, they think their whole world has been crushed.
	But the thing about it, it's just a panic about another breed.
	I don't think that's true.
	Not only because of the data thing, but... All of that is good advice.
	But then you've got, like, inner-city London kid.
	Do you think he's reading any of that?
	Do you think he takes any of that advice?
	Ever?
	I mean, he doesn't even take advice about not shoplifting.
	He doesn't mind what dog to get.
	So, unfortunately, I think because we have such...
	How do I put this politely?
	Untrustworthy members of society who are able to just go out and get dogs.
	I think we have to do something about the most extreme examples, which is the solution is the gun.
	Anyway, did you read something nasty?
	Yeah, you're about to read it.
	Matt P says, muzzling and cutting the balls off of a dangerous dog sounds like something we should carry over.
	Nope.
	Not reading that one.
	General Hyping says, I've seen a Yorkshire rip a chunk out of a man's ankle.
	It's how they're raised and overall temperament rather than the breed.
	It certainly has a massive impact, but I don't think we can sit around and be like, the breed doesn't matter.
	The breed definitely does.
	It has a significant impact.
	I mean, as we said earlier, like the lion example.
	I mean, yeah, it's a cat, but... Yeah.
	No, put it in a cage.
	What's wrong with you?
	Breed does matter.
	No, no, no.
	Rise up to the level of responsibility where you're a good owner and you can have a lion and just let it roam free.
	Say hi to the neighbor.
	I mean, technically I could agree with that.
	Would you trust your neighbor?
	Well, he's a good owner.
	But no, I think there's definitely an argument on both sides.
	Don't get me wrong.
	It's just, I really don't agree with the version of events.
	It's like the breed doesn't matter.
	I think it definitely does.
	Plus I can't kill that, so I don't like it.
	Like, you have a gun, that's fine.
	That's on you killing me.
	You have a dog, well then I've got to hope you can at least hold the lead.
	And if you're a tiny white woman, you ain't holding the lead.
	It's like the rhetoric doesn't matter where you come from, it matters where you're going.
	Yeah, you're going to be eaten.
	Kevin Fox says, to answer the dog issue, it's twofold.
	Number one, reinstate the dog license.
	I'm not a fan of licenses.
	Make people pay to own a dog and have their dog chipped.
	And then we know who is in jail if they'll harm someone.
	I don't know if chips are mandatory.
	I thought they were at this point.
	Maybe they're not.
	I mean, I do hate... For people who don't know, during lockdown, loads of people got dogs.
	And then went on board with this.
	And then threw them outside.
	So there's a huge other problem with just stray dogs.
	We'll get through that.
	But he says, number two, to get a dog license, you need to have to first pay for and complete an intensive dog training course.
	Is this a joke on guns, Kevin?
	I kind of feel where he's going.
	Alexander Drake says, pipples are fine.
	It's mostly on the owners.
	You'll notice the ones that get all the negative attention are generally owned by women incapable of controlling them or by people of seasoning.
	Indeed, the people of seasoning strike once again.
	Baron Von Warhawk says, oi oi oi, do you have a license to own that child, bitter?
	Kevin Fox says cockfighting is bad in the UK unless it's pride month or all 12 months and it's a family entertainment session.
	We can't say cockfighting, can't we?
	Can't say cockfighting.
	What's the point in living?
	Great British tradition of fighting with your... No, it's not.
	That's just weird.
	Get the rooster out.
	It's about rooster fighting.
	What was I reading the other day?
	I was reading different slogans first.
	You know when you have someone walk into your room and they walk back out and they leave the door open?
	Yeah.
	And in English, you'd say something like, you're letting the draft in or close the door, you moron.
	Yeah.
	And then there was a bunch of versions in every different language.
	I think the Greek one was something like, what were you, born in a tent or something like that?
	And then there's the Finnish one.
	The Finnish one was just the weirdest thing ever where they just went, you're letting the cuckoo song in?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Whatever.
	I think it's not a tent.
	It's a stable.
	You're born in a stable.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Christ reminder.
	Yes.
	Anyway, I think we're pretty much out of comments.
	I'll just go back and read one from the section.
	I had to skip a little bit.
	The French ghost says, oh no, that's in the Jason Kinkel stuff.
	I don't really get what he's doing though.
	Cause I see occasionally, like he's going to Russia.
	Yeah.
	So I'm pretty sure he's familiar with all of it.
	That's presumably where he's caught it.
	Because I have come back and thought sometimes maybe we could get the commies and the patriots and the UK, but no.
	How can you do that?
	Well that's the thing, in Russia you can.
	Some of the communists are also patriots and they're all on the same side in the patriotic movement.
	It's really weird.
	It's really hard to understand.
	Okay.
	But you could never do it in the English speaking world for sure.
	So let's say, let me ask you this.
	Is it the case that they, they say, okay, we are Russians.
	We always support Russians.
	Yeah.
	Cause whatever, whatever the kind of system.
	They're Russian communists.
	They're not intersectionals.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You come home with that.
	They're just spit in your face.
	Okay.
	It's like they were crazy people, but they were, are crazy people.
	Kinda, yeah.
	And we have to support them.
	Like, we're keeping all the Lenin statues up, not because we support communism, but, you know, that's our history, man.
	Yeah, okay.
	Like, having Robert E. Lee statues up if you're American, even if you don't support slavery, is like, yeah, you know, for the Confederacy, but that's not the point.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The point is, you know, he's our guy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Because I'm from Alabama.
	So anyway, I suppose on that note, we're out of time.
	If you'd like more, go to lotusseas.com.
	If you'd like to support the Confederacy, go find a Robert E. Lee statue, I guess, or communism, go and find your local Lenin statue.
	Actually, there is a Friedrich Nietzsche... Nietzsche.
	Yeah, no, Nietzsche, the other guy.
	Engels.
	Engels.
	There's an Engels statue up in Manchester if you want to... Yeah, and there's Marx's cemetery also.
	Well, I've got my evening sorted, anyway.
	So, more, website, not more, not website.

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