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April 3, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #623

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 3rd of April, 2020.
	I'm joined by Carl.
	Hello!
	We were going to have Andrew Bridgen on, but I don't know what's happened, so... Yeah, no idea.
	He was a Member of Parliament for North West Leicestershire and was kicked out of the Conservative Party for reasons we will go into in a minute.
	Yeah, we thought he was going to be on, but for some reason he couldn't make it, so I've had to step in for Andrew.
	You, what?
	Okay.
	So today we're going to be talking about why Andrew Bridgman was cancelled, the Battle of Bex Hill and the March of Progress, which never never ends.
	So tired of it.
	So tired of progress.
	Can't we just go back a little bit, a little bit of regress, please?
	This is why they call you a reactionary, but... I'm not reactionary.
	I've got a very positive vision of the future.
	It doesn't involve progress.
	I think you might actually be the most reactionary person I know in terms of... No, because we've spoken about this, like, which should we go back to?
	And you always give the answer of like, oh, the English have been saying that forever.
	And apparently it was great in 644.
	Yeah, about then, actually.
	Yeah, sometime in the 7th century is when every English person is trying to eventually arrive back at it.
	I have never had a normal human being come up to me and be like, you know when things are good?
	When?
	6.44.
	After the conquest of England and before the Viking invasion, it's pretty great.
	Downhill from there.
	Anyway, we'll show up again.
	Well, you say that, but that seems to be the general impression.
	Things been downhill from there.
	Anyway... I'm not lying, you do say this to me.
	I know I say this, but that's only because that seems to be the sort of general...
	way that the english frame of things better than the past or when in the past well if you had to put a date on it i love about 700 so you get some leftist it's like so when was america great then huh when slavery was about well you ask things at no 644 yeah we actually have the day uh anyway andrew bridgen it was is a conservative no sorry was a conservative mb and is now an independent mb for uh northwest leicestershire and he got ejected from the conservative party because
	The Conservatives are committed to a narrative of lies when it comes to vaccinations.
	He spoke too much truth.
	He did.
	He stood up in Parliament and actually was like, look, guys... It's AIDS!
	It's a go on YouTube.
	Yeah, I was going to say, this is a go on YouTube.
	He said what we like.
	He didn't do that, obviously.
	But he was kind of opening the door to being like, yeah, actually, this does destroy your immune system and...
	It's like, maybe it's not actually... Yeah, there are problems with the vaccine.
	I wish I had said it was AIDS.
	But before we begin, if you want to go and see what the work we've done on all of this, we have done a lot on the vaccine.
	This is just the series that Connor and, sorry, Harry and Thomas did.
	What the anti-vaxxers got right, we did part one and part two on this, because the anti-vaxxers actually trusted their guts and actually got quite a bit right.
	You get the next one, John.
	And then Harry did a deep dive into the Pfizer documents.
	And what they actually contain, which is revelatory frankly.
	And of course we couldn't put this out on the normal social media channels because this is still verboten.
	So let's go back a few months when Andrew Bridgen was like, you know what, my conscience keeps tickling me.
	I keep getting people who are saying, you know what, I was absolutely fine.
	I had that vaccine and then weird strings growing out of my butthole.
	We're exaggerating, but it's a real problem.
	I don't know anyone who doesn't know somebody who's been adversely affected at this point.
	What, by the vaccine?
	Yeah.
	I don't really know anyone who got vaccinated.
	Okay, good for you.
	But seriously, whenever I ask anyone about it at this point, someone will say... Yeah, but I mean... No, no, wait, I do know people.
	This one person got blah, blah, blah, and it's like... That's weird, because usually that happens with like... Constantine Kistin talks about Russia's collapse in the 90s.
	Yeah.
	And he'll say, this might not happen to everyone, but everyone knew a girl who was turned to prostitution because of the direness of the family, or someone who went from a middle class standing to completely poor overnight.
	Like an actual societal collapse situation.
	And this seems to be something very similar.
	Affected everyone.
	Yeah.
	If it didn't affect you personally, everyone knew someone.
	But anyway, back in January, Andrew Bridgen, as the BBC report, stood up and told people the truth.
	And what I like about Andrew Bridgen is he's such a normal looking guy.
	He looks mild-mannered and unassuming.
	And when he stood up in Parliament, it wasn't like a radical screed.
	Like you would have liked.
	It's AIDS!
	It was, look, a lot of people have come to me and they've got real problems, and I've looked into it, and I'm just saying there might be a problem with some of these vaccines.
	And of course, Tory Chief Whip Simon Hart said this has crossed the line.
	How dare you tell everyone that we're giving them AIDS.
	Rishi Sunak was like... Because we're doing the jokes.
	Because the reality is way more mild, and that's what's so embarrassing about it.
	It's like, I have a question.
	You're kicked out of the party.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Rishi Sunak was like, no, it's utterly unacceptable for you to question the government's narrative on COVID.
	As a nation, we should be very proud of what we've achieved through the vaccine program.
	I can't stop hearing the word AIDS in my head at this point.
	Callum, thank you.
	We should be very proud of giving everyone AIDS.
	90% AIDS.
	Oh, God.
	The vaccine is the best defense case COVID that we have.
	Misinformation about the vaccine causes harm and costs lives.
	It didn't.
	It didn't stop people from getting COVID.
	I'm so sick of this.
	So, I mean, just as a quick roundup, it's very likely that COVID came from the Wuhan lab that was studying and crafting novel coronaviruses.
	Wuhan coronavirus lab may have been the source of the coronavirus.
	It was funded by Fauci through Peter Daszak specifically to increase gain of function on COVID viruses.
	Could be, could be.
	I've got a mea culpa, right?
	Because back when this all first started in like 2020, I didn't know anything about this.
	And I was like, oh Christ, those wet markers look bad.
	I was totally wrong.
	And this guy, some Chinese, Chineaboo, came out and was like, you don't know what you're talking about, shut up.
	And at the time I was like, huh?
	And now I look back and go, no, he was right.
	I didn't know what the hell I was talking about.
	So mea culpa on that, whoever, I can't remember who it was who did that.
	But he gave me a grilling and I deserved it.
	But I mean, none of us knew what was going on at the time, right?
	But then I didn't commit to a narrative and then decide that facts don't matter, and that the things we learn are actually irrelevant to me committing to this narrative.
	And as Andrew was tweeting out, vaccines, of course, did not prevent death from COVID.
	So we go to the next one.
	As you can see, 92% of the COVID deaths in 2022, people died with COVID, not necessarily from COVID, and were vaccinated.
	What percentage of the country is vaccinated?
	Isn't it 80-something?
	I think it's about 90% of the country.
	I think it's less than 92.
	My point there being that it's over-representation.
	Yes, but either way, if 92% of the deaths are people who are vaccinated, like saying the vaccine will protect you from Covid, well, not those guys.
	Yeah, I mean, you don't usually hear, like, 90% of people have died of, like, yellow fever.
	Exactly.
	You'd have questions about the efficacy of any such vaccine.
	You need to take the vaccine because you might get yellow fever, but you're probably gonna die anyway if you have the... Yeah, I wouldn't bother.
	What's the point?
	And another point here is, is this actually just a severe... Sorry, I think we've got the wrong one here.
	But okay, let's go on to the next one.
	Uh, this is, uh, in the wrong order, but this was the cost of the booster program was of course astronomical, as Andrew points out.
	We're only talking billions, which literally we signed, signed a deal with all of these vaccine companies saying, we're going to hand over billions to you and we're going to ask nothing in return.
	And so here's Andrew Bridgen raising this in Parliament being like, hang on a second.
	Was that a good deal?
	Was that savvy, traditionally, uh, English business practice of just giving over the farm?
	Yeah, nah.
	It's terrible.
	Good, the next one.
	Do you remember when the Albanians released the document?
	Yes.
	Here's the contract Pfizer wanted us to sign.
	And we are not liable for anything.
	Well, so we don't even have to deliver the vaccine?
	Yeah.
	That was the best part.
	Unbelievable.
	I can't believe how over a barrel we've been.
	But anyway, this is interesting.
	You get this image up.
	This is something, again, Andrew tests out.
	It tests for COVID-19 and influenza, doesn't it?
	Yep.
	That's amazing.
	Well, you know, both basically the flu.
	Which is what the COVID and flu cases seems to indicate.
	Yeah.
	Weird.
	I don't know about you, I didn't know anyone who had the flu that year for some reason.
	No, no, that's true.
	I can't think of a single person I knew who had the flu.
	Apart from those people who didn't take COVID tests like me.
	I had the flu once.
	Twice, actually.
	It could have been the flu, technically.
	Because I had COVID twice, the first time I didn't get a test because there weren't any.
	My wife definitely had COVID, but it looked a lot like the flu.
	Who knows?
	Just saying.
	Anyway, after the panic of the vaccine rollout test program, there are of course knock-on effects of that, which is weird numbers of mystery deaths.
	Really weird.
	Alarming numbers of excess or unexpected non-COVID deaths.
	In the past year.
	Thump.
	Like footballers on the field.
	I'll be honest, I am a little bit sceptical about this narrative.
	Oh yeah?
	Like I'm not sceptical about the fact that the side effects listed are the side effects, for sure.
	But when it comes to people saying there's a massive spike in deaths, I think a large part of that is probably going to come down to other stuff as well.
	It quite well could be, but there are being blamed on heart attacks, heart disease and diabetes.
	Yeah but I'm just wondering who's looking at the, I mean like the mental health stuff for sure is going to be there.
	I don't know but in some like unforeseen ways I bet a lot of people have died through knock-ons from the lockdowns.
	Oh absolutely suicides are up.
	But I don't just mean like to yourself.
	Alcoholism and you know bad exercise.
	Yeah.
	Yeah there's going to be loads but there are also a big spike in heart failures.
	This is what we, Harry and I covered it in another premium podcast, where it was literally just sportsmen falling over dead on the field.
	There was like 80 of them in one year.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They always did that.
	Totally normal for 20 to 30 year old sportsmen, athletes, to just suddenly drop dead in the middle of the game.
	No, that's so obvious.
	Least healthy people on Earth, Carl.
	27 year old footballers.
	Typical.
	Who do you think is going to die of a heart attack?
	You or them?
	Definitely them.
	Exactly.
	Anyway, we've also got the issue that this... No, go back to that previous one.
	Sorry, John.
	This is young women.
	One study has shown that... The Office of National Statistics has shown that the risk of dying from heart issues is three and a half times higher among young women in the first three months after a single dose of the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine, according to one new study.
	They're allowed to publish this?
	Apparently.
	I mean, this was literally last week this was published.
	And you didn't hear about that everywhere, did you?
	It was one small article on the Telegraph and then it gets shunted into the feed and memory hole away.
	Because that's the other thing that's amazing about all this.
	We have this, maybe people don't understand, but there's a list of what you're allowed to say on YouTube.
	So regardless about what is going on with Strike with our channel, you just can't report that there's any negative effects from the vaccine.
	That's YouTube's line.
	So regardless of what the truth is, Regardless of the number of news anchors who just start flopping and crashing off the set.
	But even if it was discovered tomorrow that, no, actually it's a 100% chance of total organ failure, and 90% of the population die in a day, you literally could not actually report that on YouTube without getting a strike.
	Yeah, but for those people who are unsure if they'd be hungry if they didn't eat breakfast that morning, if is a conditional.
	That's not Calum saying it will cause that.
	Just for anyone... We're not saying it gives you AIDS, I'm not saying...
	No, no, that's a joke.
	Jesus.
	John's just let us know that apparently Andrew is here.
	He's just running a bit late.
	I might run away after segment one, maybe.
	I'll have to swap over with you.
	All right.
	We'll make that seamless.
	Yeah, it's not going to be seamless, folks.
	Oh good, John can do a technical break.
	We're going to have a go back to the doo-doos for a bit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But anyway, Dr. James Thorpe went on Fox News the other day and was like, look, there are some real problems here.
	As you can see from the numbers on the side, there's a 12-fold increase, sorry, a 1,200-fold increase of severe menstrual abnormalities, 57-fold increase in miscarriages, 38-fold increase in stillbirths.
	How mental is that?
	I remember when this was first reported in like 2021 and obviously it was suppressed.
	My wife was pregnant and it was fairly similar.
	I'm sure she was pregnant at one point and they were like, yeah, so you need to get the vaccine.
	And I was just like, no.
	I mean this is really the test case because everyone can argue that we didn't have the information so sure I did it whatever yeah that's fine but I'm really prejudiced no but like when they started arguing that pregnant women and children like up to the age of five or whatever it was should get the vaccine I think that's a very good test case of like if you spotted that you are actually culpable yeah because like any thinking human being at the time was like really yeah a five-year-old is going to die of COVID-19 I mean you can give it to 80 year olds okay Yeah, of course.
	Fine.
	You know, maybe it will help them.
	I don't know.
	But making it mandatory in your daily life?
	Obviously not.
	Mental?
	Just evil?
	Anyway, the point being, it started coming around that there were women reporting that, oh, I'm having real abnormalities in my menstrual cycle.
	And the doctors are like, yeah, just have it.
	And so we've got this really good example from Western Australia, because they didn't have COVID, because they locked down really soon.
	And Western Australia is a giant empty desert, basically.
	Yeah, how's it gonna spread?
	Exactly.
	Who's gonna get that, right?
	And so they decided to have a lockdown.
	There's no COVID in the community, the 90% vaccination rate of people over 12, right?
	But at the outset of the rollout, Greg Hunt will, like, we're shutting this down.
	The world is engaged in the largest clinical trial, the largest global vaccination trial ever, right?
	But we'll carry on with this in a minute because I believe he's here.
	Just on a quick pause, please, John.
	Hi folks, please welcome Andrew Bridgen to the podcast.
	He's turned up a little bit late, but that's okay.
	It's been a bit of a nightmare journey, Carl, to be honest.
	Yeah, it is around Swindon.
	Everyone says the same thing.
	So, Andrew, before we left off, we were just talking about how you decided to stand up in Parliament and speak against the government-approved narrative on the COVID-19 vaccine.
	This isn't going on YouTube, so would you like to tell us a bit of a backstory on that?
	What made you do it, and what exactly did you say that got you in so much trouble?
	Well, I had concerns about the narrative regarding the lockdowns.
	I'd voted against some of them.
	Plan B was a nightmare, so I spoke against and voted against all the Plan B restrictions in the December.
	And my concerns had grown and grown and grown.
	I'd been doing a lot of research.
	My background is I have got a degree in biological sciences, specialised in biochemistry in the first year, genetics, and I wrote my final dissertation on viruses and viroids.
	Right, so you're not exactly a newcomer to this Well I try also, I've had an interest in the science and I've tried to keep my knowledge up a bit as the years have gone by and I spoke to a lot of Professionals, scientists, met Asim Malhotra at the APPG for Vaccine Harms, read his paper, which was out there, been out there since October.
	I'd spoken in the Westminster Hall debate, which was by public subscription, that was demand.
	And I wasn't happy with the responses I got from the government then.
	And I think what pushed me over the edge was when the MHRA came out at the end of November and said that they wanted to push the vaccines down to babies of six months of age.
	I actually raised that at PMQs with Rishi Sunak and he said that he believed that they were safe and effective.
	Well, if you look at the risk-benefit, there was no risk at all to those toddlers and babies.
	No risk from COVID, but a considerable risk, I believe, from the vaccine.
	The evidence was emerging.
	I managed to get an adjournment debate and spoke for 20 minutes and I stand by everything I said.
	I evidenced what I'd said with I think it was 32 scientific papers and reports which went out to the press and I thought this is going to be big.
	Well actually I thought it was either going to be big or it wasn't going to be big at all in which case they couldn't diss me.
	They'd ignore me and they chose the latter.
	They ignored me and clearly I'd engaged the wrath of my party But I don't know.
	And what are we in Parliament for?
	I mean, if you can't protect children and babies from an experimental vaccine they don't need, what is the point of being in there?
	And if they ask me, you know, would you do it again?
	I mean, yeah, I would on every day that's got a Y in it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's genuinely terrifying to see the kind of industrial capture of the Conservative Party.
	Well, it's not even just that.
	Our regulators are captured.
	The whole narrative is captured.
	The media is certainly captured.
	I mean, the media is hopeless.
	I used to have a pretty good relationship with the media.
	I was on TV a lot.
	They liked bringing me on to try and beat me up on Newsnight and Channel 4 News.
	I thought I was sort of the guy who could go in there into the lion's den and come out with the lion's head every time, but it didn't stop them keep trying.
	And from the moment I stood up in Parliament on the 13th of December and gave that speech, which is scientifically proven and correct and raising legitimate concerns, I was just cancelled by the mainstream media.
	They won't have me on.
	I think I've done one BBC interview afterwards where they filmed me in the constituency and then played it locally And called me a liar.
	Why do you think there's such...
	I mean, I was going to say there's such little interest in investigative journalism surrounding this subject, but I don't think it is that, is it?
	It's money.
	It's money in power and advertising.
	Yeah?
	I think so.
	You think that's the sum total of it?
	Because for me, it looks like a kind of... Well, I've got loads... I've got numerous journalists who, off the record, will tell me that, yeah, they'd love to cover these stories, but they'd lose their job.
	See, that to me speaks to a kind of ideological regime that's taken control.
	Yeah, well it's coercion whatever way you look at it, pressure and coercion.
	I mean it's interesting, having been on the media so often, I mean I know all the cameramen who work in, a lot of them are contractors, they work in Parliament, and in the summer I'd met them at the famous Marquis of Gramby pub just off Smith Square, and we were sitting there in the sun, and
	We got talking and they said they'd been into number 10 to do the filmings of the broadcasts and normally they'd go in with a team of, if it was Sky or BBC, they'd go in with a team of four, but the rules were you've got to be Fully jabbed, you've got to have your mask, you've got to have a negative PCR test.
	Only one person allowed in, and of course it was the cameraman who got in.
	He said, I'm doing everything, I'm doing the sound, I'm doing everything, and I'm in there, in number 10, and they're all, the podiums are all there, and everyone's spaced out.
	He said, if I were to swing the camera around 180 degrees, there were dozens of spads just standing around talking to each other, not masked, not socially distanced.
	He said it was a complete Complete theatre, pantomime.
	For anyone who doesn't know, Spad is a special advisor.
	Overpaid.
	Yes.
	Underqualified.
	A colloquial term might be vizier.
	I suppose it's someone to sack when you get it all wrong, isn't it?
	Yeah, the kind of Grima Wormtongues of Westminster politics.
	So I was just looking through some of the things you'd posted on Twitter regarding this, actually.
	And I found the hermit kingdom of Western Australia particularly interesting.
	I thought it might be worth talking about because in Western Australia they had, obviously it's a very sparse desert population, they had a lockdown quite early and so they'd had no Covid in the community but had a 90% vaccination rate.
	Yeah, about 90-92% of vaccination rate.
	And what they saw was their hospitals were overloaded with ill people.
	And it's, I presume, we could draw the line that that is, inference that's vaccine harms.
	Well, quoting specifically from the thread that you pulled, they found that the report showed that Covid vaccination in the absence of Covid infections resulted in an exponential increase of adverse events, 24 times the normal rate.
	Yes.
	Well, I mean, I've quoted in my speech of the 17th of March when I followed up, and I'd been asking for another speech for over a month until I eventually got one.
	I got the graveyard shift on Friday afternoon.
	Yes, I noticed there's no one there.
	It's Friday afternoon on a private member's bills day, so it's the very end of the parliamentary week.
	Some might think that that is by accident.
	I mean Chris Chope had a debate, a German debate on vaccine harm compensation.
	He also got, the following week, he got the graveyard shift as well on that German debate on the Friday.
	I quoted data from Florida where they They'd never had more than 2,500 adverse events due to vaccination reported in the history of their medical establishment in the state until they rolled out the vaccines where they had a...
	41,000 reports, a 1,600% increase over a normal year.
	And people say, well that's bound to happen because they're vaccinating everyone.
	But they actually had a 400% increase in vaccination in Florida that year, not a 1,600% increase.
	That's not even an argument, though.
	We vaccinate everyone for, like, rubella mumps and measles.
	Oh yeah, but these are not conventional vaccines, are they?
	They're not an inert antigen or a part of the dead virus that's being injected into you to stimulate an immune response.
	This is a form of gene therapy, where they give you messenger RNA and get your cells to produce the antigen.
	But I mean, There are many questions about that, Carl, which we don't want to talk about, or people don't want to talk about.
	If you think about it, the most lethal part of the virus was the spike protein.
	Why would you choose that as your antigen?
	You could have chosen a part of the capsid coat of the virus.
	And also, the spike protein itself, we know, is the most likely to mutate.
	A good money-making scam would be to use that as the antigen coded for in your mRNA, in which case every time it mutates you have to give someone another shot.
	I mean, why not just have a traditional vaccine?
	Well, exactly.
	Why didn't we just have a traditional vaccine?
	They'll say it would have taken longer to produce, but why didn't anyone ever want to talk about natural immunity, which all the studies show that natural immunity... I think I stood up in December 21 and said in the Plan B debate that the best vaccine for cure for COVID was actually having a mild form of COVID and that Omicron was the best thing we could have had for Christmas.
	I also finished off that speech by saying that the only pandemic we've really been suffering in the UK and around the world is a pandemic of fear and it's got to stop immediately.
	So that's absolutely.
	I don't think that made me any friends.
	Well I mean it did in our section of the internet because we've been saying this for quite some time.
	And of course after that then I wrote my article for the Telegraph early January calling on Johnson to go.
	We'd seen the party gate stuff was fascinating.
	It's pathetic.
	Because they knew it was coming out and they were planning the Plan B lockdowns for another Christmas and I got an invite to go and have drinks and have a party at number 10 the first week in January and I wrote back to The Prime Minister's office said, I'm perfectly happy to have a meeting with the Prime Minister, but given that you're planning to restrict the freedoms of my constituents, I really don't think it's right for me to be having drinks parties.
	If it's that serious, I shouldn't be coming for a drinks party at number 10.
	And so they didn't come back.
	But then the week after, they invited me to another party.
	And now they'd actually announced they were bringing in all these restrictions.
	I suspected they were.
	And I said, well, nothing's changed from last week.
	In fact, you've now confirmed you are planning to bring in a load of restrictions.
	It's even more inappropriate for me to come having a drinks party in number 10 in these circumstances.
	And then, of course, party gate broke.
	And we saw what had been going on.
	And what's clear to anyone who thinks about it at all is that, you know, those people at number 10, they knew all the science.
	They knew all the data.
	And they weren't at all worried about killing their granny by not socially distancing or not wearing masks.
	Well, we have the leaked WhatsApp messages.
	We've got the leaked WhatsApp messages now.
	I mean, we can see exactly Boris's train of thought on it.
	And to be honest with you, he was right.
	But he was too lazy to follow through and wasn't forceful enough to say this is all bunkers.
	Well, it seems like cowardice.
	It seems like he was afraid, because he is right.
	I mean, even very early in the pandemic, we realised that it was actually people above the life expectancy, the average life expectancy of the country.
	He made a joke.
	It was like, well, if you get COVID, you'll live for an extra year.
	Yeah, that's how it was.
	Well, that's what the stats tell us, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	And also, when it was first announced, we were only going to vaccinate the most vulnerable, get those vaccinated and everything would be fine.
	And then it was extended and extended.
	You know, Big Pharma have made a fortune out of this.
	They've got full indemnity against the harms that their experimental vaccines have caused, and the evidence of that is, you know, you just can't argue with it.
	But I mean, the power and reach of them is such that they've bought the scientists, they've bought the institutions, they've bought the media, and they're controlling the narrative.
	I don't think, I personally don't think that's right, I don't think that's the society we want to live in, and so I was willing to speak out against it.
	It's interesting, I did.
	I'll share with you without any names but a very senior colleague who'd be known to all of you and I had an hour with him and I knew that he knew the data because his constituents actually told me they'd given it to him and we talked about it for an hour and at the end When I was expecting support, I was very disappointed, and he turned around to me and said, Andrew, there's no political appetite for your views on vaccines at the moment.
	When was this?
	This was four months ago.
	And he said that there may well be in 20 years time, and you may well be proved correct.
	And as I was leaving his office, he said, I need to tell you, you're taking on the most powerful vested interest in the world.
	Well, I mean, he's not wrong.
	The tentacles of this thing do seem to be international and every level of government and we have the privilege to pay for it.
	Yes, we're paying for it, and we've paid for it big time.
	But I mean, think, since I gave the first speech on the 13th of December and the second speech on the 17th, I think we've seen the government's position move.
	They'll never admit to it, but they were wanting to jab six-month-old babies.
	Then it was over 50s on the 12th of February, and now we've just had announced it's going to be the over 75s and those with immunosuppression, whatever that means.
	So, we've definitely seen a shift in the government's position.
	They'll never give me the credit for it, but there was no one else speaking out.
	And in America, I mean, they did jab the babies.
	I spent Christmas and New Year recess out in Washington, getting information from the Americans, meeting with some informed elected representatives, we'll say, and some scientists, and they confirmed all of my worst fears.
	What do you make of the censorship of the scientists in particular?
	Well it's no different really to the censorship of anybody else who speaks out, whether they're a journalist or a politician.
	Well, I would suggest that it's actually a little more pernicious, right?
	I mean, it's pernicious.
	Or pugnacious.
	It could be both.
	But the thing that bothered me the most was watching dissident scientists.
	I mean, the very fact that I can say there is such a thing as a dissident scientist Well, there isn't.
	There is actually real scientists and pretend scientists, because all science works by challenge.
	It's like politics.
	It has to work in an open environment where people can challenge your ideas.
	That's a free and open democracy, and that's how science works.
	And what scientific theses actually survive very long without being debunked, replaced by a better idea, or being modified.
	And they don't.
	I mean, the science is never settled.
	Science is never settled.
	That's the only guarantee I can give you.
	So whether it's about climate change, the vaccines, or anything else, whenever anyone says the science is settled, they're not telling you the truth.
	No, it's absolutely not.
	And that's exactly the point.
	And it's anti-science to say that.
	Well yeah, the process of science is constant critique and refinement.
	And if we have a selection of people on a particularly polarised political topic who are simply not allowed to speak, then I can't help but feel that that is a way of giving the game away.
	I think you could come to that conclusion if you were a thinking person, yes.
	That there's a certain inconsistency in all of this.
	Yes, and I haven't been paid by anyone to say that, that's the point.
	So, you mentioned going over to America.
	As I understand it, they still have restrictions on people travelling there?
	Yep, you have to have your Covid status.
	I am double jabbed myself with AstraZeneca, the one that was quietly withdrawn because of the side effects with no one talking about it.
	Have you experienced any yourself?
	Yes, yeah.
	Could you tell us?
	Yeah, I'm a very healthy guy on the whole.
	Never had any time off sick with an illness until I had Covid.
	I don't really suffer with any allergies at all.
	I'm a little bit allergic to sunlight.
	I'm a bit vampiric.
	That's a genetic.
	All my children have got that as well.
	So when we come out into bright sunlight, we sometimes sneeze.
	That's about the only allergy I've got.
	I have every allergy under the sun now.
	Really?
	Yeah, I suffered a month of hay fever last year.
	Solid.
	And as soon as that went up, my body came out in hives all over.
	So like nettle rash all over my body.
	For six, seven months.
	I can eat the same food I'm normally eating and then suddenly my nose starts running.
	And this is, in my view, that's a damaged immune system.
	And interestingly, speaking to my group of friends who are about my sort of age, you know, in our sort of late fifties, men and women, not politicians, they've all got exactly, a lot of them have got exactly the same symptoms.
	Yeah.
	I've got this view on life, which is when the entire world is heading in one direction, it's time to start looking in the other direction.
	And so when everyone and your mother is saying, no, no, no, you will have to get vaccinated.
	I knew that I shouldn't get vaccinated.
	And so I didn't.
	And so I haven't suffered any health effects and I don't suddenly fear having a random heart attack at 43.
	It's interesting that The most senior elected American official I spoke to, when I sat in his palatial office up on Capitol Hill, and they are palatial, he looked at me and said, you're a clever guy, you've studied science, he said, why the hell have you put that poison in your veins?
	It's not the best start to a meeting I was looking for, to be honest.
	To be honest with you, that was exactly how I felt about it.
	I was like, come on, I know that there's a lot of vested interest here, and I know you don't know that this is going to do what you're saying it's going to do.
	I'm not a scientist, but I know that vaccines take years to develop.
	Suddenly everyone and their mother has got a vaccine, and it's all a weird new experimental technique.
	No, not on me, you know, or my family, you know.
	And so I'm genuinely sympathetic.
	You opted out?
	Oh, totally.
	I just did not engage with it at all.
	I haven't even had a test.
	I'm just not having it.
	So I'm... Well, I've got a four-year-old, and I'd come to the same conclusion you had, and then they were coming for him, and that was enough for me.
	Oh, I've got three kids, you know.
	My youngest is about a month old now, nearly a month old, my second youngest is two, I've got an eight-year-old and I've got a 13-year-old stepdaughter and I just forbade it.
	I mean the loss of trust, I mean this is going to come out.
	It's not going to take 20 years, it's not going to take 2 years.
	I think this is going to be out in the next 6 months.
	When I called for Boris Johnson to go in January 22 in the Telegraph article, 6 months later he was gone.
	The rest of the herd had caught up.
	I think about when I gave my first speech, I think by May we'll And there's no science going to come out saying, actually, Andrew Bridgen's completely wrong.
	They are safe and effective.
	It's only going one way.
	And they can try and put a lid on it all they want to, but this is going to be the biggest scandal in medical history.
	It's been perpetrated to billions across the world.
	And what I will say is that since the mainstream media sort of cancelled me, my social media's gone through the roof.
	Yeah, I noticed.
	That's good.
	So, yeah, so, you know, and I speak to The Telegraph and they don't, you know, do you want to run the story about, you know, I've got, you know, Josh Sterling's reports, the actuaries' reports of the death rates in America post-vaccination, you know, 40% increase in their payouts of working-age people, or the healthiest people in America, which is why they like insuring them on the cheap.
	They've got their fingers burnt.
	He's done all the calculations.
	He's saying that for every jab you had in America, 7% on your risk of mortality.
	If you're a man over 50 and you've had 5, you'll be 35% more likely to die.
	Interesting story, and there's all the stats.
	These are actuaries.
	This is their job.
	If they don't get your expected time of death, date of death right, they lose money.
	So they've got a very acute interest in getting this right.
	And the response is, no, we don't want to run that story.
	I'm hoping to get Josh Stirling over here, because he's run the numbers for the UK as well, and they're pretty horrific.
	What do your colleagues think of your suspension from the Conservative Party?
	You'd have to name names or anything.
	I'm not going to name names.
	I've lost a lot of friends over it.
	Friends I thought I had for the last 10 years more in Parliament, 13 years.
	But I've made a lot of new ones.
	And I guess if you go against the narrative and you go against the herd, I guess you find out who your real friends are.
	But I'm comfortable in my position because I couldn't look myself in the eye if I was doing anything different.
	And given, you know, The experience I've had in politics and the degree I did, you know, it was almost written for where I am today that I would stand up and say, hold on, this isn't right.
	This is the science.
	This is the proof.
	Listen to me and let's stop this rollout of these experimental vaccines.
	It hasn't been without some effect, as I would maintain.
	I think our position has shifted from the most pro-vaccine country, probably in the world, to probably the most restrictive now.
	And I'm, you know, I'd be still very, very sceptical of whether there's any benefit over risk to the over 75s, especially given how mild Omicron is now, and it's endemic, and it takes no account of natural immunity.
	So no, I think they're losing badly.
	So they took the whip off me.
	And of course, the reason used was always the old anti-Semitic and racist, which, you know, I employ some members of staff who are of ethnic minorities.
	And you have no idea how upset it makes them when they've got their boss for several years who they've worked with being called a racist, you know.
	It really does upset my staff a lot.
	For anyone watching who doesn't know, Andrew compared the mass rollout of vaccines to the Holocaust.
	And this was somehow an anti-semitic statement.
	Well, it was not.
	I said it was the biggest crime to humanity since the Holocaust.
	It was not diminishing the Holocaust.
	It wasn't denying the Holocaust.
	In fact, he was saying that the Holocaust was the greatest crime against humanity, but this is the biggest one since.
	I'm afraid.
	I think it will be seen to be so.
	And if you look at the figures coming out of America from Ed Dowd, you know, 600,000 deaths last year, excess deaths due to the vaccines, 3 million people disabled.
	I mean, that's just America.
	I mean, what's happened in Europe would be the same.
	And we've seen our own figures, you know, 63,000 excess deaths in England and Wales last year.
	Nobody wants to talk about it, Carl.
	I mean, I've put in every week for the last two months for a debate on excess deaths.
	And I've been to the backbench business committee, you know, and I can't get any Labour or SNP MPs to sign up.
	They want this debate.
	In fact, I went down to their end of the tea room canvassing and say, look, you know, let's have a debate on the excess deaths.
	You can stand up in Parliament and say it's all those evil Tories' fault for running the NHS down.
	They're killing people.
	And they all looked at me and said, you've come to the wrong pub, mate.
	We don't want to talk about that.
	So politics has gone mad and I really would urge, there's a public petition out there to get a debate on the excess deaths.
	I've actually been asking for one on the WHO treaty which is tremendously dangerous as far as I'm concerned, giving away massive amounts of sovereignty to a supranational organisation which is unaccountable, unelected, And discredited.
	They didn't want to have one of those either.
	We're going to have one on the 17th of April, the first day back after recess.
	And that is only because of public petition.
	Really?
	So, yes.
	So 100,000 people signed?
	156,000 people signed for it.
	Well, I would ask the public to, and your listeners, to sign up to the online petition to get a debate on the excess deaths.
	It's the only way I can see we're ever going to get one.
	But, I mean, I've already tweeted out about the... I thought about this and thought, you know, we've got this debate now, three hours in Westminster Hall on the WHO treaty, and I can bring in the changes to the International Health Regulation, which are even more frightening than the treaty, because the treaty requires a vote of both houses to become binding in the UK.
	Amendments to the treaty don't, and they're giving them the same powers, so they're going to give them powers to call a medical emergency, which doesn't have to be a pandemic, control our health protocols, enforce lockdowns, enforce vaccinations or any other treatments, the arrest of people who decide they want to dissent.
	I mean, these are huge powers.
	It's the antithesis of everything Brexit stands for.
	And I can't get anyone to talk about it in Parliament.
	And then they say, well, we've got a dearth of topics to debate on the backbench business day, so if you want to talk about the importance of whatever, having Waterloo Day or something or whatever, we could give you a debate.
	But this isn't important?
	Well, I've been and petitioned them myself in person and I'm not getting anywhere.
	I'm one voice crying in the wilderness.
	As you said, it was a pandemic of fear.
	Would you say that it's mainly that your colleagues are afraid of the consequences of speaking out?
	I think what's been done to me publicly was two things.
	First of all, to punish me, but also it sent a signal out to my colleagues and it won't be lost on them that all the re-selections for the next generation are going through now.
	And also there's a bit of jockeying for seats because of the boundary changes.
	So between that, and that's probably being generous to my colleagues as well.
	I feel like we're living in an occupied country.
	We're certainly not living in the free and open democracy that we thought we were, and maybe, you know, the first, as I've always said, you know, the first step to sorting out a problem is appreciating you've got a problem, and I think now we know we've got a problem.
	There are huge, huge problems on the horizon, which is the digital ID, the digital currency, the WHO treaty, and the changes to the international health regulations.
	Those would sign away huge amounts of our freedoms and we're sleepwalking towards them.
	And the world is as well.
	And it's a bit about, you know, the stuff that WhatsApp's about that we saw from Hancock who, let's face it, is a poor individual.
	I despise my Hancock.
	But I mean, when you look at Simon Case, he's supposed to be the top civil servant.
	And you saw his tweets.
	I mean, that was appalling.
	If he's the best we've got in the civil service... Remind me about his tweets, sorry.
	I didn't see them.
	Well, he was saying about how Simon Case's tweet, not tweet, his WhatsApp message was...
	That he couldn't wait to see the faces of those first-class customers coming off their £10,000 flights from New York and being put in a Rabbit Hutch hotel, in a budget hotel.
	He couldn't wait to see the faces.
	I mean, there's something seriously wrong with that man.
	If that's his psychology.
	He's unfit for public service in any way.
	And also, it was Simon Cage that organised, if you remember Carl, the Bring Your Own Bottle party.
	Oh really?
	He organised that?
	He organised that and sent the invites out.
	Now again, thinking about it, over the 13 years I've been an MP, I've been to plenty of parties, at number 10 drinks parties, never been asked to bring my own drink.
	That's because they've got one of the finest sellers in the world.
	Now you've got to ask yourself, why did he, he knew it was in the lockdowns, bring your own bottle.
	That's because, had he not done that, There would have been a paper trail of the usage of alcohol from the cellars which he didn't want.
	That indicates to me that Simon Case knew that what he was doing was wrong and he was covering it up before he started.
	That's why you had to bring your own alcohol.
	Now, that for me, that is guilty.
	I don't understand the mentality.
	I mean, if you're in Number 10, either the Prime Minister or you're the Chief Civil Servant or you're someone very, very close to it, why take the risk Why do it?
	Even from a self-preservation angle?
	Okay, I'm going to assume that we can't rely on any of them for moral courage, but why, from a purely Machiavellian perspective, would you take that risk?
	Well, I think that shows the culture of those who are ruling us as opposed to those of us who are under those rules.
	And it's very much one rule for them and another rule for everyone else.
	And that really sticks with me.
	I mean, I observed all the lockdowns stuck in Leicestershire.
	Parliament wasn't working.
	A lot of stuff was going through, you know, these emergency rules on Covid which were being actually implemented.
	And then we're voting on them three days later.
	How does all that work?
	How does all that work?
	That's what I mean when I say it feels like we're being occupied by something.
	I think we're losing our democracy.
	We've clearly lost the mainstream media they're owned.
	They report.
	I mean, the biggest power of the mainstream media is reporting the news by omission, isn't it?
	Yes.
	They decide what is the news.
	Yes.
	And Andrew Bridgen speaking about vaccine harms, that's never going to be the news.
	I've been saying this for years, the biggest problem with the media is the framing of what they tell you to think about.
	I had a brilliant experience.
	So I gave the speech on the 17th of March, which again was all from scientific data, and I produced the data and the papers to back up what I'd said about the Florida studies, Dr. Joseph Fryman's studies of the original data, trial data Dr. Joseph Fryman's studies of the original data, trial data of Moderna and Pfizer, where he came out with these stunning figures, which Malhotra did exactly the same.
	One in 800 is the average for taking a booster for a severe adverse event.
	For Pfizer, it's actually one in 990, and Moderna's one in 662.
	He based all that.
	And bear in mind, you're expected to take these again and again and again.
	I mean, you're exposing yourself to the risk over and over again of severe adverse events.
	And a severe adverse event is death, incapacity, hospitalisation, a birth defect, or anything that a doctor says is very, very serious at the time.
	So these are very, very high criteria.
	I did that speech and then a week later I got an email in the late afternoon from BBC Radio 4, a programme called Antisocial.
	And then they said they were going to attack me on my scientific data.
	They were going to attack all of that.
	I said, well, you know, I'll send you all the papers.
	You can have all the papers.
	I sent them all the papers to support everything I'd said.
	And then they said, well, we're going to speak to Joseph Fryman, the scientist in America, and they're going to have this panel.
	I said, well, can I come on and defend myself?
	You know, you're going to attack me for an hour program on Radio 4 at 12 o'clock on a Friday.
	You're going to attack me.
	Can I come on and defend myself?
	No, no, we don't do it like that.
	There'll be someone on who will defend you.
	Well, the person who'd be put on was If there's going to be someone there, why can't it be me?
	Exactly!
	It can't be me, it can't obviously.
	And obviously they had their statistician, Dr. Spiegelhalter, giving them all the science.
	And since then, thankfully, they did the program.
	I gave them a statement which I don't believe they read out, which I supplied them with.
	They upset me for the day.
	But Professor Norman Fenton went through all the science of my speech and the program and absolutely destroyed Spiegelhalter's ideas.
	I mean, he was and and then they then it came out that the BBC had actually contacted the originator of the of the scientist, Dr. Joseph Fryman, who'd done all this work on the one in 800, which is average of the two vaccines who'd done all this work on the one in 800, which is average of the two vaccines per million, 1250 And they spoke to him for an hour and he came out afterwards.
	He spoke to them for an hour.
	He was very supportive of my position.
	He said I'd interpreted the data correctly.
	Everything, everything, everything.
	And they paraphrased him to three seconds in the program for a one-hour interview.
	And he said he'd actually listened to the program himself but couldn't get past minute 20 because he was in too much despair.
	And he completely agreed.
	So the scientific The independent scientific view of the BBC's antisocial programme was that it was the BBC that was spreading misinformation, not me in Parliament.
	I am rather seeing these sort of house scientists as kind of court wizards or something.
	Well, you've got to remember, our MHRA, the Medicines and Healthcare Product Regulatory Agency, are 86% funded by Big Pharma themselves.
	Well, that's what I was driving at.
	And then you've got the JCVI, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, where In their personal declarations of interest, they declared over a billion pounds of investments in Big Pharma.
	I'm sure none of this, as I said in the chamber, none of this interferes with their decision.
	And the date that we saw from the UK Health Security Agency, which was about the efficacy of the Autumn Booster campaign, They'd had that since the 25th of October.
	It was made public on the 25th of January, interestingly, just after they'd announced that they were only going to do it for over-50s.
	And it clearly shows, you know, that there is no efficacy, there's no effectiveness in the booster campaign.
	You have to boost so many people and, of course, one in 800 risk of a severe adverse event.
	It's multiple times more risk from the vaccine than it is from the virus itself.
	Especially now it's attenuated to Omicron, which is, you know, 25% of all common colds are coronaviruses.
	I mean, that's where COVID-19 is going to evolve to.
	That's the natural movement of things, that viruses become more transmissible and less pathogenic.
	Did you see the Died Suddenly documentary?
	I did.
	What did you make of it?
	Because I'm not a scientist, and so I looked at this and thought, well, that's terrifying.
	I don't know what these fibrous stringy things they're pulling out of bodies are supposed to be.
	Well the fact is that we're not doing any autopsies on those who've died suddenly.
	It's almost trying to be normalised that people in their teens and twenties and thirties and forties Just drop dead on the pitch?
	Just drop dead on the pitch.
	Or in training.
	And, well, it's just the way it is.
	And I thought the British Heart Foundation's latest advert, which I managed to watch at the odd time I do watch.
	I haven't seen that.
	Oh, they've got this young girl playing football who's about 13 and she drops over and has a heart attack on the back.
	I mean, defibrillators in schools.
	I don't know when you went to school, Carl, but I went to school a long time ago and I don't remember anybody having a heart attack.
	In about 25 years, but nobody had a heart attack.
	Nobody had a heart attack, but now we've got to have defibrillators in every school.
	It's going to save lives.
	Well, it wouldn't have saved any lives when I was at school because no one had a heart attack.
	What's changed?
	And it's almost normalizing.
	And of course, the longer these excess deaths go on, And we had the pandemic, we had excess deaths, we haven't even touched on the scandal over the midazolam morphine.
	Okay, let's move on to it.
	But you've got, the problem we're going to have is as time goes on, and we've got excess deaths last year, and we've got excess deaths now, I mean obviously the five-year rolling average for excess deaths, we won't have any excess deaths soon because... It'll just be normal.
	It'll be normal.
	And no one wants to talk about it.
	And we've got more people dying every week now than during the pandemic, and Sky News has got their ticker and the BBC scaring everyone to death about how many people have died today with the virus.
	And that's another important point, the sleight of hand that was used.
	Well isn't it interesting that the double standards of anyone who died within 28 days of a positive test from the highly dubious PCR test was classed as a with COVID death, but anyone who died 14 days after their vaccination was classed as unvaccinated.
	It's incredible.
	And if you take those first 14 days out, I mean, you lost most of the immediate deaths.
	Well, this was the thing.
	There was a freedom of information request.
	I've put the data on my Twitter.
	It's horrific.
	There was a freedom of information request like a year ago now, where they were saying, look, can we just have it so COVID with no comorbidities?
	And it was something like 1,600 people.
	There's a really small number of people.
	I've had a lot of people contact me.
	I mean tens and tens and tens of thousands of people from all over the world have contacted me since the 13th of December.
	I mean, over 98% of my emails in my inbox are very supportive.
	I mean, that's pretty unusual for a politician.
	I bet it is.
	And when I walk the streets, I don't have anybody abusing me.
	I have people, it doesn't matter whether it's in London, in my constituency, or any other city in the world, people come up to me and shake my hand and say, thank you for what you're doing.
	Well, I actually took a clip off your Twitter.
	Can we play the first video, the victim's video?
	Because I thought this was actually really wholesome.
	I think we should listen to it.
	Hello, Andrew.
	I would like to inform you that I believe my dad was killed by the NHS with midazolam, and I have the evidence.
	Hello, Andrew.
	I'd like to inform you that I believe my mum was killed by the NHS with midazolam, and I have the evidence from Gillian.
	Hello, Andrew.
	I would like to inform you that I believe my beautiful dad was killed by the NHS with midazolam, and I have the evidence to prove this.
	Yours sincerely, Lee.
	Hi, Andrew.
	Let's pause on that, please, John, just so people get the...
	Understand that we're...
	I mean, what MP can have people coming to them with those sort...
	And I have got the evidence.
	I've got files and files on it.
	I've got a lawyer who's got a thousand families behind her, who's approached me, and I've had all the files.
	I've been through all the evidence.
	I think there's going to be criminal cases brought about this.
	And Carl, I mean, I've seen a lot of evidence and I've looked into the science.
	It's pretty clear to me that COVID-19 was rampant across Europe by the end of August 19.
	Lots of people didn't feel very well in the autumn, had a bit of flu.
	The hospitals weren't overloaded.
	Well I had it over Christmas in 2019.
	I remember having a very vicious case of the flu.
	I thought that was unusual.
	Yeah, well, there's some great science from a paper I saw from Italy.
	There was a lab that did the cancer biopsy tests and obviously they took samples from all over Italy, people sent them in, people see if they've got cancer, test these cells if they're cancerous, they'd retain the tissue samples, they retested them for COVID-19 and 15% of the samples had COVID-19 at the end of August 2019 and of course they knew where the samples had come from and then when you looked on the map, the whole of Italy was covered.
	So if it was all over Italy at the end of August 19, it was all over UK, it was all over North America, it was all over the world.
	And the fact is we didn't have a crisis in the NHS, we didn't have people dropping dead in the street, We didn't have any of this.
	In fact, we didn't actually have a first wave of mass deaths until all the old people were taken out of, vulnerable old people, taken out of hospitals, put into care homes.
	And from what I'm seeing from the evidence, they were in hospital for a reason.
	They were elderly, they were vulnerable, they were having treatments, they were having medications.
	They were sent to the care homes without their medications and no access to a GP.
	There was a ring of steel a place around so their relatives couldn't come and see them.
	And effectively, you know, if you look at NG163, which was the protocol that Matt Hancock authorized the end of February 2020, If you read that, I mean, that is the Liverpool pathway.
	Midazolam and morphine is a respiratory suppressant.
	Why would you want to give that to someone who is struggling to breathe?
	Right, well, could you, yeah, tell me about the reports those people were giving there, because I'm not an expert on this.
	So, what was happening there?
	Okay, well, NG163 was brought in as an emergency measure, supposedly to deal with Covid patients, elderly Covid patients, well I mean it is a pathway to death.
	Right.
	No one, wouldn't you put people on midazolam and morphine and the morphine exacerbates the effect of the midazolam.
	I mean the chemicals they use it's actually very similar to what they use for the on death row in America to kill people with.
	Right.
	Yeah, and it's effectively the Liverpool pathway where you withdraw water and food.
	A good dose of midazolam, I mean, 20 minutes later they'll be unconscious and they're never going to regain consciousness.
	Yeah, that's what happened to my grandmother during the lockdowns.
	Well I've spoke to people who lost both their parents in these sort of conditions and I would urge you, I can give you a name of someone I really would like to have on the program after this and I think he's, I mean people have looked into it, they've got all the list of medications their relatives got from the NHS and this was only ever going one way so you took a load of vulnerable people out of
	hospital, which they were presumably in hospital because they needed to be in hospital, you put them straight into care homes without their medication, without the treatment, then you wonder why they deteriorate and then they're put onto a pathway which is basically certain death and then they're put down as a COVID death because obviously with a respiratory inhibitor they're going to have all the symptoms of COVID.
	They've probably been tested with the PCR test which is very unreliable And they're not getting the proper treatment at all.
	As I've just said, you know, Covid-19 was in our country in August 19 and the first wave of deaths followed.
	Those actions by Matt Hancock and the Department of Health, moving people into care homes without treatment and effectively putting them onto a pathway which is pretty much certain death.
	I'm aware there's at least two court cases ready to go on this and of course around the rest of the world it was remdesivir was the preferred drug instead of midazolam.
	The NHS used and I've seen the I've seen the figures for how much had on stock at the start of the pandemic and how much they bought and how much they they basically used three years supply of midazolam in between February and October 2020 and that it aligns very closely with the number of deaths.
	Yeah.
	And of course they were all put down as Covid deaths.
	There's never going to be a reckoning for all of this, is there?
	Erm... These people are going to win.
	Who's going to win?
	The people who have done this to us.
	The villains who are in charge, who have made all this happen.
	There's never going to be a bloody reckoning for all this.
	Well, there's a lot of people involved, unfortunately.
	There's a lot of people complicit.
	The truth will come out to those who wish to seek it.
	Some people don't wish to seek it.
	I mean, I've got friends, I've got old friends, and they're intelligent people, and I can say to them, look, I need to tell you a few things that have been going on, and you need to be aware of this.
	You know, one of them turns around to me and says, Andrew, I'm triple-jabbed myself, my teenage children are triple-jabbed, I don't want to hear this.
	You know, the cognitive dissonance from the truth.
	But I mean, you know... And you can't blame them for not wanting to hear it, as well.
	You can't blame them.
	I can understand why you would... And people will say, well, Hancock, you can see from the WhatsApps, you know, he shouldn't have been in that position, he's made bad decisions.
	It can't be a conspiracy, it's always a cock-up.
	But what you're asking people to believe is that the same cock-up was made by multiple governments around the world at the same time, all over the same issue.
	And if it was just cock-ups, why censor scientists?
	Why censor people who are activists about this?
	It can't be a cock-up, can it?
	It's happened in too many countries at the same time.
	They haven't all got Matt Hancock running them.
	It's like the excess deaths.
	They say the excess deaths are because the NHS is in meltdown.
	Well, the NHS is in meltdown because of the pressure being put on it by the serious adverse events.
	You know, where you keep one person in an age group out of hospital by boosting them, and you put 100 people in because of the side effects, and that's the difference.
	And also, you know, I didn't know the NHS was responsible for the excess deaths in Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, the United States and Canada.
	They're all having the same, Australia particularly.
	I think we're going to see some interesting data coming out of Israel, because they are the most jabbed nation on earth.
	Four or five.
	Yeah, four or five rounds, yeah.
	It's interesting, a lot of very eminent Jewish scientists are working very, very hard on this.
	And indeed, it's interesting as well that following the allegation by my party that I'm anti-Semitic, or that remark was anti-Semitic, 25 of the world's leading Jewish scientists and doctors wrote to Number 10.
	And it's obviously a coincidence, but I mean, they wrote to them at the end of January to number 10.
	And then when we inquired a week later, number 10 denied they'd actually had the letter.
	I put it on the Internet.
	I put it out there.
	And I spoke to Professor Fenton, who posted the letter, and he actually had photographs of him packing the letter, addressing it, and putting it in the letterbox.
	But I mean, it didn't make it.
	So then they sent it recorded delivery.
	Right.
	And it was signed not by a signature.
	It was signed two days later by number 10.
	Oh.
	And that letter's still not been answered.
	It made some quite interesting allegations.
	It said that what I'd said wasn't, in their view, anti-Semitic, and they are the world's leading Jewish scientists and doctors, and they said that accusing someone falsely of anti-Semitism diminishes real anti-Semitism, and also they felt that stopping free speech, especially in our own Parliament, would be the first act of a totalitarian regime which they would find quite worrying.
	But I mean, it's obvious that any allegations like that are being done in bad faith.
	They're being done merely to silence you and try and shame you into silence, and to try and drum up a constituency that will harass you on social media.
	It's self-evident that that's the only reason.
	especially given the nature of your statement.
	So, I don't want to dwell on it.
	I feel that we're... Playing the game?
	Yeah, playing the game.
	We're giving far too much credit where it's not due.
	So, I wouldn't tolerate someone calling you an outsider.
	Well, that was interesting.
	I was asked to give a speech, an address, last Tuesday night in London and I went there.
	It's an address in Westminster, a prestigious address in Westminster, and I walked in there and It's a synagogue.
	And I said, well, you do realize I've been accused of anti-Semitism, and the ladies there said, yeah, that's why we want to photograph with you.
	Okay, so should we move on to some other subjects that aren't COVID and the vaccine?
	Yes.
	Because there's a suite of issues, I think, facing this country.
	And the world, actually.
	And the world, that very few people really adequately address.
	I mean, the first thing I think, and this may seem trivial compared to what we've just spoken about, but what's a woman, Andrew?
	A woman is an adult female with a double X chromosome.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Right, so you're a Nazi, I see.
	Exactly.
	No, that's called science.
	Yes.
	And I'll also give your listeners a tip, you see.
	I've got hairy ears, right?
	Oh yeah.
	If you see a woman with hairy ears, it's not a woman because that's on the Y chromosome.
	Really?
	The gene for hairy ears is on the Y chromosome.
	I did not know that.
	That's a good way of looking out for that.
	Thing is, the problem is, as I'm getting older, I'm getting hairy ears.
	So what do young men do?
	How can they tell?
	So yeah, I mean, I've been described as the least woke MP in Parliament.
	It's a badge I wear with honour.
	It doesn't bother the constituents in North West Leicestershire, I can assure you.
	I bet it doesn't.
	I bet they're sensible, decent people.
	But isn't it remarkable how this question has liquidated two political careers so far in this country?
	It's crazy.
	It's mad.
	It's mad.
	I mean, how could anybody in their right mind vote for anyone who doesn't even know what a woman is?
	That's over half the electorate.
	It's 51% of the electorate.
	So can I give you Keir Starmer's latest statement on the concept of woman?
	Apparently 99.99% of women are not born with penises.
	That means, just for anyone listening, roughly one in a thousand women are born with a penis.
	Which, again, breaking new scientific ground in my opinion.
	Where's he done this survey?
	Can I see the raw data?
	I'm not sure I want to see the raw data, to be honest.
	That's a great question.
	It seems to have been pulled out of his rear because he was being pressed on it.
	But I've noticed that this seems to generate a constituency of people who would otherwise be called feminists, who are just self-describing themselves as transphobic now.
	Well, it's all just a way of Labour are the party of division.
	So they like to compartmentalise people and be their champion.
	We can all put ourselves into an oppressed minority, can't we, if we want to?
	If that's your bag, if that's what you want to do.
	And the problem is that it's the hierarchy of victimhood, isn't it?
	And now they've got onto the trans issue, it's coming into friction with the feminists.
	Quite rightly, women deserve to have their own spaces, like toilets for instance, or even prisons.
	Yeah.
	Can you even imagine being in Nicola Sturgeon's cabinet?
	Being like, really, is this the hill we're going to die on?
	Putting a rapist in a women's prison?
	Is this actually the hill we're going to die on?
	I think it's got even worse in Scotland.
	When you got to a situation where you can't use the word paedophile and it's a minor attracted person.
	Well, I mean, quite honestly, you show me a minor attracted person and I'll show you a potential paedophile.
	They're literally admitting it.
	That's what Minor Attractive Person means.
	They're literally admitting it.
	This is crazy.
	We all know what they're talking about.
	Let's be straight.
	It's about putting men against women, feminists against trans, black against white.
	It's all about division.
	We need to stick together and realise what's going on in this country, and the wider world, and then we can come up with a solution.
	But division is not the answer.
	The threats we face are threats to all of us, whether you're trans, feminist...
	male, black, white, Muslim, Christian.
	It won't make any difference.
	The problem is, this isn't an alien entity, that's the issue.
	So this is actually my wheelhouse, studying leftist nonsense.
	And it turns out that actually this is a novel interpretation of liberal human rights doctrine.
	that allows us to end in this place and it's hard to see how from a liberal perspective it can be put back in the bottle.
	That's the issue.
	So the reason that the SNP and all the Celtic nations and the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats and all of them are going so congenitally woke is that it aligns with the presuppositions they already base their worldview on and this is why it's so quickly, it's like dominoes.
	And they can't stop themselves.
	And so now they're all dying on the hill of not being able to define woman.
	Whereas a conservative perspective that isn't purely committed to liberalism is the only thing that really can appeal to reality, if you know what I mean.
	And so I'm genuinely concerned about it because it seems that there's quite a strong left wing in the Conservative Party as well.
	and they will all end up, I mean you see LGBTQ conservatives, and as someone who's read the doctrines that they're using, I wonder, because I mean it's essentially the same as saying a communist conservative, that's the problem, and so I just wonder why the conservative party is essentially being subverted by a series of communists, and why the conservatives are okay with that.
	Well, I think there's a lot of things that have gone on over the last decade which call you into question under a so-called conservative government which have not been very conservative.
	Not in the slightest.
	Not in the slightest.
	I mean, you know, we had an 80-seat majority and we could have been really conservative and this is undoubtedly the least conservative government I've ever served in with the most, with the biggest mandate from the people to be conservative.
	But I mean if they think whatever the choices at the next general election that voting for Sir Keir Starmer is going to change anything and I think you know I think this I think in a lot of respects this government is pretty discredited in the public's view and I think we'll have a change.
	Judging by the polls?
	We'll have a change, look at the polls, we'll have a change, and we'll get something new and different, and it won't be any different at all.
	Yeah, I think it'll be exactly the same.
	It's almost as if someone owns all the horses in the race.
	Do you know what I mean?
	I know exactly what you mean, and the name of that person is Tony Blair.
	Actually.
	The heir apparent to the World Economic Forum.
	Yeah, somehow.
	Which Penny Morton took very great exception to me pointing out the obvious.
	Although it's only because Bill Gates would have doubtless not endorsed her next book.
	She said that the world's a better place for having Bill Gates in it.
	She's quoted as saying.
	He wrote the foreword to her book.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And endorsed it.
	It's just, okay.
	So, this is what I mean.
	It's like, there are going to be a bunch of us people on the outside of this structure who are looked at like We're evil, basically, for being normal.
	Well, Bill Gates, I mean, he invested in Pfizer, a company that had never made a vaccine.
	He put $55 million into Pfizer in September 19.
	Really?
	Handily, just before the pandemic was announced, but not before we now realise that the virus was flying around.
	And he dumped them about two months ago.
	Really?
	For $500 million.
	Well, I mean, this is... And he'd been telling everyone they've got to get the vaccine.
	And the BBC are supposed to be non-advertising.
	They had Bill Gates on saying everyone's going to have, you know, this is not over until everyone's... And he's got a huge investment in this company that's selling the vaccines.
	And then as soon as he's dumped his stock, well, the vaccines weren't really very good.
	We need better vaccines next time.
	Well, this is the perennial thing with Bill Gates, though.
	Everyone mistakes him for a computer programmer.
	He's not.
	He's a businessman.
	And he's not a scientist, he's not a doctor.
	Yeah, he can advise people around the world on policies about health and climate change.
	I mean, I'm sure he's well invested in all the green technologies.
	It's mad, isn't it?
	I mean, to make a lot of money in this world, all you need is next week's newspaper today.
	And if you control those newspapers, I mean, you know what's in the newspaper next week, don't you?
	Whatever he wants.
	Well, how was it?
	It was all declared.
	It was proudly declared on the BBC that the richest people in the world, those, you know, people with lots of billions of wealth, they'd managed to double their wealth or 50% increase in their wealth during lockdown when most of us were under financial stress, businesses were struggling.
	Well, I mean... Well, businesses were prevented from opening.
	Exactly.
	It was terrible.
	How do a group of the world's super elite manage to do that all together?
	They've all been lucky together.
	I mean, there's only one way it can ever happen, and that's statistically, and that's insider trading.
	They knew it was going to happen.
	You know what I mean?
	That's just maths.
	But the thing is, the implications of this are so colossal.
	Yes, but I mean, do you want the truth, or do you want something sugar-coated that we can just suck on and go out?
	I'd like to go back to the sugar-coated now, actually!
	No, I'm joking!
	Well, I'm sorry, Carl, but that option's no longer available.
	Yeah, that is true.
	I mean, once you realise what's been going on, you can't put that back in the box either, can you?
	Yeah, so I'm going to give some comments from our listeners, because they're going to be people with questions, no doubt.
	But John had one there.
	Do you think there's an inflection point coming in public opinion here?
	I think people are waking up, I think slowly, despite the censorship.
	I think the concerns about the vaccines are getting through.
	Interesting facts for you, two thirds of NHS staff wouldn't take the autumn booster.
	I saw that.
	Now that's very interesting.
	There's a revealed preference.
	I saw an FOI which a journalist had actually got many months ago and it was about 35% of the NHS eligible staff actually took it up.
	Now that's stamming in itself.
	At the end of the autumn booster campaign 94% of the appointments were not being taken.
	So I think the people are voting with their feet or not voting with their feet.
	So I think we are heading to an inflection point in that sufficient critical mass of people are very very now very very sceptical about the vaccines and it's where that will lead when they start questioning other things that they may have been told which they were
	And the longer the mainstream media defend the indefensible, safe and effective, which it doesn't even say that on the NHS website now, it says it mysteriously, as of the 17th of March, just before then, we checked it out, it was safe and important.
	Well, I mean, even if they are safe, I mean, why would you want to have an experimental vaccine which is demonstrably not effective?
	Because it's nice to have, like wearing a hat, isn't it?
	Soon it'll just be important.
	Who's it important to?
	So I think we are heading there.
	What the response of those with vested interests will be to that changing public opinion, I don't know.
	We'll have to see.
	They can't censor us all, right?
	I had a great meeting last week on Zoom with two international psychologists to talk about The project F.E.A.R.
	that had been implemented across the world, its effect on people, and I was thinking about how waking people up, and how to do that best, with my messaging, to make people aware.
	And I think they told me some interesting things, but it only confirmed what I'd already suspected.
	Young people are far more prone to the propaganda and the fear that we saw.
	That's why it's affected their mental health rather worse.
	They don't have the resilience.
	It's amazing, of the tens and tens of thousands of emails I've had all around the world, how many of them put on there, and I'm 73, and they've seen through it pretty much first.
	I've noticed that young people these days are essentially trained to have total faith in institutions.
	Indeed, and to an extent.
	How's the way to put this?
	If I go and address a group of people who have not been to university It's far easier to get them, they get it pretty quick.
	Ten minutes, I give them the facts, I introduce some of the evidence from Asim Malhotra, or Dr. Ryan Cole, or Dr. Malone, and they join the dots up and they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're being, this is not right.
	Yet, the more educated someone is, the harder it is, because it's more or less, they've also had the propaganda of the ingrained Conditioning.
	That these sort of things could never happen.
	But I mean, what are we dealing with?
	Big Pharma.
	I mean, they've got such a track record of this.
	Why should anyone be surprised?
	I mean, I had an event in central London.
	I had Dr. Malone and Dr. Cole flew in from America.
	They spoke.
	Asim Malhotra spoke.
	I spoke last.
	I said, look, I've got a degree in science, but you've just heard it from the experts.
	There's no point in me telling you about the science.
	So I'll just tell you a story.
	I'm a politician now, I deal in people.
	So I'll tell you a story about a wonder drug that was prescribed to pregnant women.
	Oh, I know this story.
	And so it was prescribed to pregnant women.
	They won't have any morning sickness.
	Won't have any morning sickness, and it worked.
	But what the women who took it didn't know, sadly, was that the molecules in the treatment, they not only went round their body, they went through the placenta, into the unborn baby, prevented the formation of limbs, 40% of the babies died, 60% were left with horrendous, horrendous disability, and of course there was a big hoo-ha in the UK when it all came out.
	You've all heard that story, but I'll tell you the other half of the story which gives you the mentality of the people we're dealing with, is that the company that made That treatment was a company called Chemie Grunenthal, a German company, and obviously when it was discovered the side effects of their drug on pregnant women and their babies, it was withdrawn from the UK market.
	Under a different name, they carried on selling the same drug for 25 years in Spain.
	I did not know that.
	No, you didn't.
	No.
	Now, I don't have a word I don't have a word for that level of evilness.
	Right?
	But those are the people we're dealing with.
	There's no morals.
	They knew exactly what that drug was doing and it had done in the UK, and unfortunately at the time, Spain was under a dictatorship, didn't have any MPs to ask the difficult questions, no representation, and they kept that, they fooled the doctors in Spain for more than two decades and carried on selling that very, very dangerous drug in full knowledge of what it was doing.
	Now, if you want a definition of evil, I think we've got one there, haven't we?
	It's hard to beat it.
	It's genuinely hard to beat it.
	For those who'd say, well the vaccines have got to be safe and effective because they've told us.
	You just can't blindly trust experts.
	As if they're not human, as if they haven't got flaws or they're not corruptible or something like that.
	I can't stand it.
	Huge amounts of money have been made, and, you know, our democracy, our finances, people's well-being, we're in a far worse position than we were before the pandemic on all measures.
	I mean, this country is in ruins.
	Yeah, and it's self-inflicted.
	There was never any need for the lockdowns, there was no science behind that, and people have, you know, I had a go at Boris Johnson over the lockdowns and obviously he, whether he misled Parliament or not, I'm not really interested in that because that is self-evident what they did in Number 10 and what they knew and what they should have known and what they did.
	The worst lie for me is that the first lockdown I think was probably justified.
	No one knew what was going on and we locked down.
	There's a safety precaution.
	There's a safety precaution.
	The second lockdown, I was promised by Number 10 that they'd done a full impact assessment Of all the wider effects on children, on shutting schools, on wider society, and it's all come out, and I was promised it's all been done, it's all come out, we've got a lockdown.
	And I voted for the second lockdown.
	It was the last lockdown I did vote for.
	And I voted for it because I had that assurance.
	There was no such impact assessment.
	That was a downright lie.
	And you can lie about parties, or you can lie about, or allegedly have lied about anything.
	Yeah.
	But that altered my vote.
	And that's not forgivable.
	Do you think you'll ever be returned to the Conservative Party?
	Does the Conservative Party want to return to me?
	I haven't walked away from the Conservative Party, I'm a Conservative.
	Well, yes.
	Well, OK, that underscores everything I was going to ask then.
	Because we know they're not.
	They can suspend me from the Conservative Party, they can't stop me being a Conservative.
	Sure, but do you think they'll ever allow you back into the party then?
	And would you want to go?
	I would like to go because I think there are a lot of very, very good people in the Conservative Party and I think they've been led very badly.
	I think the country's been led badly in the wrong direction and I'd like to play a part in turning that around.
	And it's not just this country, it's a challenge facing the democracies of the world.
	I think we're at a The next 12 months is going to be amazing, and we can't afford to lose.
	And I want to be in the fight.
	I will be in the fight, one way or another.
	So I'm going to summarise an overwhelmingly large number of comments that people have left, which is just thank you.
	To you, personally.
	A lot of our viewers are... That's very humbling, but you know, We've got to realize what's happening and there's so much at stake.
	I mean, this is about the future of our children, our society, Western civilization.
	This is huge.
	I haven't got an alternative.
	I didn't see it as an alternative.
	If I'd have stood back in December and said, look, I'll take the easy option.
	I won't say anything.
	I won't get anything on the record.
	I mean, you know, if I could save one child, toddler, from being injured from a dangerous experimental vaccine, that's enough, isn't it?
	It's all worth it, then.
	Yeah.
	But, like I said, I have a lot of people who are just saying thank you.
	Sorry, everyone, but I'm just going to summarise them.
	Everyone is very, very grateful for what you're doing, by the way.
	I suppose one question here is, do you feel that you have any allies within the Conservative Party?
	People like perhaps Philip Davies?
	There's a lot of MPs, not a lot.
	Chris Chope's been great on this.
	He's championing the vaccine harms.
	There's other MPs involved.
	But I mean, they've been under a lot of pressure, I can tell.
	And MPs from across parties have come to me, members of the Labour Party will remain nameless, some members of the SNP, no Liberal Democrats, and obviously Conservative colleagues, and they've come up to me quietly when no one will be around and said, yep, you're absolutely on to something here, there's a lot going on, keep going.
	But sadly, that's a long way short of them standing up in the chamber or ever voting.
	Or even necessarily being willing to sign a request for a debate on a topic.
	That's... I hoped that... I mean the conspiracy of silence around these issues that we're discussing now is being contagious and I rather hope that courage could be contagious as well and I've been disappointed.
	Which is interesting, was it the Emily Pankhurst statue outside of Parliament?
	Courage calls to courage, well there can't be very much of it in Parliament.
	Right, well I'm just going through the comments and they're all just thank you comments, they're not questions.
	Which is a shame, guys, could have done with some questions!
	That's because I spoke so comprehensively.
	Yeah, I think so, I think so.
	So I suppose the final thing is where can people find you if they want to follow you?
	At Abridgen on Twitter.
	I'm posting a lot of stuff on there and as we hear from Business of the House questions every week it's closely followed by Penny Morton, the Leader of the House.
	Do you think she's got it out for you?
	In for me.
	In for me, in for me, they've all got it in for me.
	I think she's very uncomfortable with the questions I ask and I guess she'd rather I didn't turn up and ask her these questions because obviously I haven't got the whip so I don't have to supply her with the question in advance.
	So she normally has a little crib sheet of some sort of put-down she's got ready for me.
	Probably, I don't know, Uncle Klaus probably sent it over and she reads it out but I mean her body language looks appalling.
	As a final thing, since you brought up Uncle Klaus, what are your thoughts on the WEF?
	The World Economic Forum?
	Well, I posted that clip and my note was, this man is clearly unfit ever to be Prime Minister of this country.
	He's a traitor.
	He's only got about 1.5 million views on Twitter.
	He's a traitor, isn't he?
	If you can say that you prefer...
	cabinet out there to get their instructions.
	Is it a conspiracy?
	Well, it's amazing that whatever Klaus Schwab announces that we're going to do, whether it's, you know, global warming initiatives in the Western world, you know, these 15-minute low transport travel areas, I mean, they've overstepped the mark because people are not going to have it.
	I mean, I hope that my fellow citizens are not going to.
	It's interesting, they're not trying to bring any in in Leicestershire.
	Really, that's interesting.
	Isn't that interesting?
	It's Bath, it's Oxford, it's Brighton.
	If they try to bring it into Colville or Ashby-de-la-Zouche, we'll have them down faster than they can get them up.
	That is pretty interesting.
	It's all coming.
	Politicians or media can accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist, but it's amazing that everything that Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum said they wanted, you know, it's all coming in.
	And it's not just coming in our country.
	They're bringing them in America, they're bringing them in Europe.
	I think people have got to decide what sort of society they want to leave to their children, or even live in themselves.
	Do you want to be in a situation where in seven years' time you will not have a car?
	You will not be able to fly?
	You won't be allowed to eat meat.
	Won't be allowed to eat meat?
	It's crazy.
	Well, we had that, that was, yeah.
	You'll eat the bugs.
	Yeah, no, it literally won't.
	I bet your heat won't be.
	It'll be exactly like the party issue, where they'll be having parties.
	We're heading to feudalism fast, aren't we?
	You'll own nothing and be happy.
	Yeah, that's their mission statement.
	The social credit scoring system, which can be implemented.
	With the digital ID and the digital currency.
	We've got the banking collapse coming I mean, you know, I was told about that The banking collapse is coming, you know several years ago and perhaps I was thinking they were conspiracy theories, but it's amazing amazing It's oh, yeah, I think by October though.
	We probably only have a handful of banks left in the Western world Yeah makes it much easier to bring in the the digital currencies.
	Yeah, it's a lot easier to control if it's all centralized Absolutely.
	And we're heading for, you know, what's the WHO treaty?
	It's a handing over of sovereign powers from the UK Parliament, which are only lent to us by the people.
	We're not sovereign in Parliament.
	It's the people who are sovereign.
	We have no right to hand over their powers to an unelected, unaccountable, supranational organisation like the WHO, the World Economic Forum or anybody else.
	And if there were no power involved in it, Tony Blair, he wouldn't want to be the next chairman, would he?
	Yeah, no, that's absolutely right.
	Again, no-one's voted for him for a very long time, have they?
	And he, of course, is pushing the digital IDs.
	They'll be very, very handy.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Beware of politicians giving you things that'll be very, very convenient for you.
	I wish we could go on, but unfortunately we're out of time.
	Andrew, thank you so much for joining us.
	I'm sorry I was late.
	It's always the same around this area, but that's fine.
	Thank you so much for coming down.

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