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March 16, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #611
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Ears for the 16th of March 2023.
I'm joined by Carl.
Hello.
Got the date right for once.
I'm amazed at myself.
Yeah.
Anyway, today we're going to be talking... I managed to read out the date without even checking my computer the other day.
I was really proud.
It's a weird skill.
You wouldn't think it's that hard, but try it.
Try remembering the date.
That's impossible, I tell you.
Anyway, so today we're going to be talking about what is wokeism.
Won't somebody please think of the fighting age men and American civilization.
American culture.
Anyway, no.
Fitz Fisselwit's references aside.
It's actually got to be serious.
Well, kind of.
But we'll begin with what is wokeism?
So Wokism is back up.
When is it not back up?
What am I talking about?
Every goddamn day in the West is Wokism has done this.
But the conversation today is about the writers in the room who are being retarded because I am bored of this.
I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of seeing right-wingers who are like, you want to build trees?
That's Wokism.
Stop.
Stop that.
Build trees.
This is something like Graham growing concrete now.
Yeah, but you know what I mean.
We build loads of trees around here.
I mean, essentially, basically just normie political commentators who don't know what they're talking about.
There's that, but then there's that part of the conversation, but we're mostly gonna be focusing on one lady who I believe is in this sphere, has written a whole book about it, but failed to define it on live TV, debating a leftist, which, you know, made her look a bit silly.
I mean, isn't it good that we spent all of 2021 essentially doing the ground, the legwork, the hard work of going through their 100 page or 500 page tome and making hundreds of pages of notes to be able to actually do this for them?
Isn't that useful?
I wish they'd use it.
Start off though, if you want to find out, the Origins of Intersectionality podcast, good place to start, of course.
Here's one of the many, probably about a dozen podcasts we've done about this now.
Kimberley Crenshaw's one being the foundations, though, of the point of, oh, maybe it's not just one group that's the oppressor that needs to become the oppressor.
Instead, maybe it's all these groups along all these lines, which never end.
In her defense, when this was like 1991, I think it was, that she started coming to the sort of 89 to 93, that sort of era, this was fairly revolutionary at the time.
You know, it's easy to look back- No, it's bimbo energy thoughts.
Yeah, exactly.
It's easy to look back and go, well, duh.
But like, the first person to nail it down is doing something impressive.
But let's move to the thing that caused this, which is, um, conservative owned because they couldn't define a thing.
Average conservative.
But also, this isn't really like, the left thinks it is.
Like, haha, you can't define something.
You can't define woman!
What are the last two years of conversation?
How many party leaders have to be destroyed by the question?
So this is some verified check, Mark.
As you can see, 9.2 million views on this clip.
This got widely shared amongst left-wing circles, just being like, haha, rightist.
All conservatives, BTF-o'd.
Wow, funniest thing I've seen all day, this MAGA grifter's brain literally short-circuited when she was asked to find woke.
She couldn't.
Maybe we should help her by reading a book and leaving a review, because she's written a book, as you can see in the background.
Right.
Advertising, that's what the purpose of this interview was.
But let's play the interview, I suppose, and we'll have a look at what the footage was.
What does that mean to you?
Would you mind defining woke?
Because it's come up a couple times and I just want to make sure we're on the same page.
- What does that mean to you?
Would you mind defining woke?
'Cause it's come up a couple of times and I just wanna make sure we're on the same page. - So, I mean, woke is sort of the idea that, this is gonna be one of those moments that goes viral. this is gonna be one of those moments that goes I mean, woke is something that's very hard to define, and we've spent an entire chapter defining it.
It is sort of the understanding that we need to totally reimagine and redo society in order to create hierarchies of oppression.
Sorry, it's hard to explain in a 15-second soundbite.
And then she couldn't.
That was terrible.
Yeah, it wasn't a good job.
She does manage to get out of her mouth which is that it's a new system of oppression hierarchies.
Which is true, but then which hierarchies?
Because this is true of every socialist ideology.
That's not what they would argue.
They would argue that it's a critical lens by which we can identify oppression hierarchies in order to dismantle them.
But then which hierarchies are you looking for?
Because like every socialist has their own view of which hierarchies are bad and the real problem.
Which ones need to be put in place?
The left-wing socialists, which I'm going to define that way because there are right-wing socialists, would argue that actually all the hierarchies are a problem and they need to be dismantled.
You could see that, but then they just make their own.
I mean, if we're actually being not socialists, then you look at what the Soviet Union did, and it's not like they got rid of hierarchies of oppression.
Yeah, but the ethos underneath it is the idea that they will eventually have arrived at a place where there are no hierarchies of oppression.
The trust me bro.
Yeah, very much so.
But the intention is that they're trying to demolish hierarchies of oppression through critical analysis, through the lens of intersectionality.
Yeah, that's what they'd say.
I don't believe them.
That's obvious nonsense.
Yeah, obviously I don't believe it.
What's funny is we've been through this for the 20th century, and the idea that this is something new, or trust me, this time... That's the goal.
We'll go to the next link here, because apparently she's not a very reliable actor.
James Lindsay pointing out that apparently she smeared him as an anti-Semite a couple of years ago for pointing out obvious things about wokeism.
Her background I believe is like she went to loads of Jewish schools.
She doesn't have a Jewish mother, she's got a Jewish father.
But I think she probably, I'm guessing here, just turned around and said that's anti-semitic because she wasn't understanding what James was saying.
Did James Lindsay say something like cultural Marxism or something?
Probably something like that.
That makes people like go squeamish for some reason.
That's not an inaccurate definition of what it is.
No, and the obsession like, oh that's got to do with Jews, is like James doesn't ever talk like that, so I just, I don't believe that she's true if she said that about him.
But we'll go to the next link here, because Matt Walsh very obviously pointed out, was like, let me get this right, the people who can't define woman, trying to dunk on someone for not being able to define a word.
Very true, it's not just woman either, is it?
That's a lot of words.
But we'll get to our resident leftist, who very accurately defined it previously.
Ash Sarkar!
Oh yeah!
We keep using this clip because you did make a very good video on this, what is woke culture, in which we turn to Ash Sarkar, who was asking what is woke culture and then defined it.
I mean, she knows.
Yeah, and I suppose we'll play this clip and enjoy her definition, correctly so.
To answer Ash Sarkar's totally honest question of what is woke culture, we now turn to respected television academic Ash Sarkar from later in that very same podcast.
Woke is accepting that LGBT identities are valid and should be protected under the law.
That woke culture is an acknowledgement that there are racialized outcomes reproduced through institutions in society and people of color measurably are treated differently.
What I want at an interpersonal level is understanding, empathy and solidarity.
And at a political level, I want the pursuit of redistributive goals, whether that's power, whether that's wealth, whether that's land, in order to pursue aims of social justice along class, gender and race lines.
So just as a quick thing here, what Ash Sarkar has given us there is an external definition of world culture.
She's looking at the features of it and saying, world culture is these features.
But the problem with definitions like that is that you get a Diogenes who bursts into the room with a plucked chicken saying, behold a man, right?
The essential definition is to approach issues through the lens of intersectionality, which I tweeted out, because that's what world culture is.
And then it manifests in what Ash Sarkar has just given us there.
Yeah, if we're looking at the end results, that's what you're going to end up with.
Yeah, exactly.
So Plato being like, well, it's a featherless biped, isn't it?
It's like, no, that is a man, that does describe men, but it's not essentially what a man is.
Sure, but for people who are looking at the end results, what are we looking for here?
I think it is true.
Oh, that is true, yeah.
She's not wrong.
Just to reiterate, redistribution of land, power, and wealth along class, gender, and race lines.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's the end result.
It's nice and easy.
It's punchy.
Yeah.
You can get that in a 15-second soundbite.
Miss, whoever you were, who failed.
But we'll get to this here.
This is just a summation here, the differences, as I tried to put it, between Marxism, National Socialism, and Molochism.
That's great.
That's fantastic, actually.
Marxism, social justice on the redistribution of land, power and wealth along class lines.
National socialism, same thing, along racial lines.
Wokeism, we do it on class, race and gender lines now.
As Ashoka correctly pointed out.
It's a pretty neat synthesis, actually, of the two positions.
And this isn't my work either.
The thing is, I've mentioned a lot- That's my work!
No I got this from Tick because Tick does such a fantastic job of actually defining some things here because if you go to the next link you can see just his video on Hitler's socialism that's like five hours long and you might think it's some yeah whenever you hear like a five-hour YouTube video I usually think of like some you know what are they called crumb tubers who just sit there and go for it and Tick isn't like that.
Tick is incredibly well read used to be a socialist himself and ended up not going down that route Because he realised, hang on a minute, this is all retarded!
And so he's got that insight from an internal and external perspective and the sources just endlessly go over it.
Well that's the thing, I've watched like three, not this, I haven't watched the five hour one yet, but I've watched like two or three of his sort of more 45 minute ones where he's explaining, look, the evidence for National socialism being a form of socialism is just overwhelming and you are right he is so dedicated to this this particular canard.
I'm so glad he exists.
But it also perfectly makes sense.
I mean like all these different versions of socialism as he lists like if you're a marxist you're obsessed with the Worker control of the economy because you care about class and if you're a national socialist you're going to end up talking about racial control of the economy and state because you're obsessed with race.
I mean it really does actually make sense when you start thinking through that lens.
A lot of Hitler's stuff just seems like complete madness until you actually get the explanation that Tick gives you of national socialism.
Oh yeah, now everything Hitler does actually makes sense within this framework.
Yeah, he's harmonizing the race.
It's like the Glauscheitung or whatever it is, the synthesizing of the economy.
You know, harmonization or something.
Yeah, like a lot of people at the time, as he writes just in his videos, took that and went to the New York Times and were like, oh he's privatizing the companies.
It's like, Bro, literally nationalising them and giving them to party organisations.
There's no individual even owning these things, so... Well, party members were at the top of them, if that helps.
But that's still not privatisation, because obviously it's within the state.
I mean, what does privatisation mean in a totalitarian state?
Doesn't even... What does it mean?
It means nothing.
And that's the thing, he goes to the root definitions as well, like if you want to privatise something, an individual has to own the thing.
That's the definition of something being private.
But also they have to have... A publicly traded company is not private.
But also, they have to have property rights in order to actually earn it.
And the Nazis... Was it not the Enabling Act?
There was something... I watched a video of this yesterday.
One of the first acts that the Nazis put into place just essentially, not erased, but made private property conditional rather than a fundamental right.
It's like, okay, well then they're not capitalists, are they?
It's just ridiculous.
And the thing with the different forms of socialism, as he defines it, and correctly so, as in, like, it actually works to explain why they do things, you don't end up with confusion.
Like, if you believe the Marxist worldview that the National Socialists had, it was just a brand, bro.
Like, none of what they do makes any sense.
Yeah.
Because it's obviously just smear.
It doesn't help you understand the world.
Whereas if you actually take, here's someone trying to explain it to you without confusion, then you don't end up confused at the end of it.
It's like, no, this makes perfect sense.
It's completely clear, and he's correct.
And, well, the difference between them then is just which dividing lines do you want to divide the whole world on.
And this goes on to explain everything.
I mean, with wokeism being the one that's like, oh, we'll do it on gender and race and class lines.
And then of course... And sexuality and anything and disability and anything else they choose to incorporate.
That's the thing Kimberley Crenshaw brought to the left-wing debate, which is why we're doing it on one line, because of course we can be discriminated against on racial lines, we can be discriminated against on gender lines, on sexuality lines.
And we can form a coalition, such as say LGBT, if we bring all of these things together.
And it explains everything.
I mean, this is why I really like Tick, because his, like, education is what I'm going to call it, has helped me actually understand the world.
Because if we go to the next one here... It is education.
I mean, like, race swapping makes perfect sense once you understand what they're doing.
Like, you're actually trying to increase, as they would put it, black and brown representation within media, which gives you cultural power.
This is a particularly funny one, just as a side.
This is a Ukrainian account that deleted this now.
They made a fake poster for a progrossion advert, the guy in charge of the Wagner Group, and they made a Netflix documentary where they changed his race.
But this is so well known that Ukrainian S-posters for the government are making S-posts with this involvement.
It's like, yeah, this is what the West's ideology does.
And then we go to Women Plus, of course, which makes perfect sense.
Oh, sorry.
We'll start with Biden trying to redistribute wealth on a race basis.
Remember, he tried to do this.
He got blocked by a judge.
So do you remember when they were like, oh, we're going to roll out COVID vaccines?
Yeah.
For the blacks first.
And then there's women plus as well.
If we go to that one, which makes perfect sense.
If you actually take this definition again, just if you take the definitions of work and explain the world, I think that's the best way of operating.
Well, I mean, if you want people to have a coherent view of what the world consists in.
Yeah.
And not trying to mislead them into being like, oh no, that's not real leftism.
Unless if you're trying to break down all categories and boundaries and obviously you don't want that.
But that's the side, that's the thing of like, the check in with what's the case.
The check marks though, how do they take that clip?
They're just like, ha ha, look, right winger doesn't know thing.
You can't define it either, that's the weirdness.
Yeah.
If you actually define leftist, define wokeism, they'll usually come up with some crap such as the following, which is one left wing politician came up and said... Ask any left winger to define racism.
If we go to the next link here we can see the politician's trying to do it.
Maga folks are unable to define woke.
Why?
Because here's the real definition.
Being respectful.
And not a jerk.
Oh really?
Right.
Right.
How do you explain all of left-wing activism in the last ten years then, Ted?
Doesn't help you.
At all.
It's not very respectful, I would suggest.
I also love the idea, I mean, this is obviously just party propaganda.
Could you imagine someone coming out, what's being a conservative?
Being respectful.
Just being a nice guy.
What's being a Nazi?
Just being a nice guy.
Like, it's just so childish.
Not being a jerk.
Pathetic.
Go read a book.
Imagine Ted Lieu's School of Ideology.
He's teaching some kids about different ideologies.
This one's being nice and this one's being nasty.
The whole world.
Yeah, literally.
Commitment to hate, commitment to nice.
Child.
We'll go for it, there's more checkmarks.
One guy coming out being like, this is what they think, woke means anti-white, and that's what they're scared of.
I mean, it does, but that's only one aspect.
That's a consequence of being woke, yeah.
Like, we're not addressing any of the other aspects either.
And that's why they're scared of it.
Well, I mean, it does seem to be... I mean, it's an explicit racial animus against one racial group.
This is why people are like, well, hang on a second.
There's a kind of argument you can make that Hitler was kind of a proto-woke then, and they'd be like, no, you can't do that.
It's like, yeah, but he genuinely was.
But only on the racial line.
Yeah.
Well, no, no, Hitler had class concerns.
He did have class concerns.
Yeah, sometimes, but only within the race.
So his primary motive was obviously social justice for the German race.
When I studied history at college, actually, we did a section, like our first week, we had to write down, it was a really weird homework assignment, basically 10 reasons why Hitler thought what he thought and why he was justified in what he did, trying to get into his worldview.
I don't know how the teacher got away with that.
But one of the main things I came back in with the next day was obviously stock talking points, because that was actually the party propaganda.
It was, why did Jews make up this proportion of the population, but yet all these high positions they seem to control, such as lawyers, doctors, blah blah blah, like over-representation there, and this was part of the German propaganda at the time.
And it's like, yeah, and now you do the exact same thing against white people in the West.
And I made that point to the professor and they were like, huh, that's a good point.
I was like, okay.
The only difference is the size of the constituency they're attacking.
Different racial group to attack and a different racial group to defend.
The size of it as well, that's the thing.
Of course.
The Jews are like one percent of the German population or whatever.
Okay, yeah, it's, you know.
Thankfully this chat ran into Chris Rufo, so I'm sure they'll be getting along.
He says here, I've still not been able to find a conservative and the next one I think is him finding Chris Rufo, so I'm sure they'll be fine.
Chris makes the point here where he defines it there as all society structure is to oppress people of colour and blah blah blah.
The gaps in differences between groups is proof of that oppression and the solution is to close those gaps.
Yeah of course but again we're not defining what is the purpose here as you said earlier.
That's the external definition.
You've got to get the intersectionality aspect.
These are just aims.
Yeah, exactly.
These are products of it.
But the thing with defining anything like a complex ideology is the question is just how complex do you want your answer to be?
We can give a simple one line answer or we can give an essay like Chris is doing here.
And they're both valid.
But this is why I think that Ash Sarkar and by extension Tick's definition of these ideologies just works for the basic purpose of trying to understand the world.
Of course you can get more complex and there is a reason to.
We're distributing power and goods along race, class and gender lines.
Perfectly good.
But these weren't the stupidest takes.
Now for the stupidest takes in the world.
Of course these weren't the stupidest takes.
No.
Local man has an opinion.
He defines it in nine seconds.
Ah great, let's hear it.
Folk used to mean being aware or being awake to the trichnology, to discrimination and prejudice and injustice.
Now it's just another dog whistle for ni- Ah, for fuck- Left-wing black academics have come to the table.
Great.
I would be careful doing that, folks, because it's not wrong to say the word woke, and someone might be like, oh, look.
That's our word.
No, no, no.
Just every time a black person says something like, ah, woke, it's like, no, that's not what that means.
No, he's not the only one here who came out with that nugget of not knowledge.
It's just not useful.
You got the next one here.
Someone else was desperately serious in this.
They're just like, we all know what white people call black people when they call them woke.
They're calling us the N word.
I like the use of the asterisk here.
You meant to asterisk out a letter, not just insert it.
Yeah, that doesn't really work either.
That's also not true.
No, it doesn't make any sense.
But also, when white people call other white people woke, they mean N-lover?
No!
And they mean communist, that's what they mean.
But I love if you apply this to Nazism, like you get Nazi just means kraut and when non-Germans call someone a Nazi they're calling them a kraut lover because all of the German race belongs to National Socialism.
Yeah.
That's what you're saying there?
Well that's who they claim to be acting on behalf of.
Yeah, and this person here is claiming the entire black race belongs to wokeism.
Like, you just belong to them, in the same way the Germans belong to them.
I'm gonna let Larry Elder know.
But I suppose, I don't know, they probably did.
I imagine Germans did, like, kick Germans out of the Nazi race for being not real Germans because you're not a member of the Nazi party.
Possibly.
I can imagine.
I'm sure Tickle have the receipts.
Yeah, well, yeah, we'd have to look it up.
If he sees, I mean, that's nobody.
But yeah, that's that, which is defining woke.
Funnily enough, left wing failed.
This is like when they're like, oh, globalist, that means Jew.
No, it doesn't.
Yeah, I mean they failed once again to have any kind of stab in the dark in that regard.
I mean that's just not what this means.
Yeah, Chris Rufo and James Limsey doing a good job, but if we want like a succinct version I think honestly Tick does the best way of his summation of Marxism, his summation of National Socialism, because you can see the progression as well and I know many Marxists will honestly be like, no there was no progression, Marxism was the end of Socialism.
Shut up.
This is just like some... Well, it's anti-historical.
Yeah, but it's also just like John Stuart Mill being like, no, my liberalism is the only liberalism.
Neoliberalism doesn't exist.
So shut up.
You're not helping anyone.
This is just denialism.
I mean, we know that's not the case, just... Anyway.
But there we are.
Definitions of woke.
It's been for the fighting-age men.
Gary Lineker is still dominating the news cycle.
How?
I don't get it.
I know you're right.
Local boomer thinks we live in Nazi Germany.
Look on British News and it's just his face.
Endlessly.
It's like Gary Lineker's kind of slightly absent-minded expression.
I don't even dislike Gary Lineker, I just think he's a product of living in the London area.
And so he has to deal with people who are also not academically inclined, and so don't do a lot of reading on the subject?
I don't know, I think they're all very academically inclined.
Like, the most academic people you find in the world are the most ignorant people on earth.
Fair, but it takes a lot of work to become that ignorant.
I think Gary Lineker's just kind of fallen into it.
Maybe.
He got famous for kicking a ball around.
I don't begrudge him not having read stacks of tomes on racism.
and where it's come from.
I don't blame him, but now he's just like, yeah, so.
All the refugees are just good, aren't they?
It's like, no.
We're living in Nazi Germany because people don't like the refugees?
No.
Gary.
Most normie of normie things.
It's not even normie.
It's sub-normie.
London.
Yeah.
It's the woke London bubble.
And it's just Gary Lineker, isn't it?
He's like, I'm being a good person.
It's like, are you, Gary?
Are you?
Anyway, before we go on, I agree with your feminist immigration policy.
I've come to the firm conclusion that essentially we shouldn't accept any men at all.
Gary Lineker is like, no, I need those fights.
Without those fighting-age men, for some reason, I can't be a good person.
What are you doing, Gary?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, we'll talk about it in a second, actually.
So anyway, you may remember that we covered this on Monday, where Gary Lineker had a standoff with the BBC, and the BBC backed down because literally all of the woke friends of Gary Lineker kind of unionised against the BBC.
Spike magazine, I think it was, described it as a putsch at the BBC, a woke putsch at the BBC, which I think is actually a good summary of it.
And for some reason, the BBC bosses backed down.
It's like, why don't you just fire him?
Like, that's what I would do.
No, you're out.
Go.
Bye.
I just didn't get this in terms of money, because apparently all the other hosts of the boring shows were like, we're going to leave if Gary leaves.
And it's like, OK, I'll just replace you.
Loads of people will do that.
Yeah, exactly.
You guys are way overpaying.
What's Gary on?
Was it 1.5 million?
1.37 or something like that.
But yeah, he's the highest paid.
Doesn't have to worry about ratings either.
Nobody I know who likes football likes Gary.
No, me either.
Because they're all generally more patriotic types who like football.
But even just on a football lens, it's just not interesting.
Like, show me the footage.
Sure.
And that's probably why the BBC had record ratings for Match of the Day after Gary Lineker wasn't on it.
Half a million up.
But this dominated Prime Minister's Question Time.
Just Gary Lineker.
In the Parliament.
We're talking about Gary Lineker.
Why?
What happened?
He called us all Nazis.
We're not Nazis.
Oh, we're going to get rid of him.
No, you can't get rid of him.
That's cancel culture, says Keir Starmer.
Unironically, everyone is entitled to a government job.
I'm not even joking, actually, right?
Keir Starmer suggested that BBC impartiality has been such a thing.
BBC impartiality.
I've not known a time when that has existed.
No, of course not.
Obviously, right?
But conservatives are now waging war on free speech.
Because they're like, is Gary Lineker really entitled to be paid by the taxpayer to call the government that the people voted for a Nazi?
I think fathers were like, you know what free speech really means?
Working for the government.
And being able to say anything about the government that you like.
So this was Keir Starmer's argument.
I mean, literally he said, why doesn't Rishi Sunak take some responsibility and stand up to his snowflake MPs waging war on free speech?
Ah yes, the free speech of multi-millionaires.
Being employed by the government.
They're the people whose free speech really matters.
Like dude, you could start your own goddamn television channel probably.
Yeah, undoubtedly.
What have you got?
You know, it's not, you know, people who are actually being censored and sent to jail for things they've said.
It's not even people who are losing a platform because they've, I don't know, like boycotts from leftists or rightists.
No, they're like, you work for the government, you did the deal with the devil, and they're like, what do you mean I can't say what I want?
Yeah.
Well just don't work for the government then.
Why can't I just call the government who employ me a bunch of Nazis?
I just don't see the problem.
It's like, what, you're saying they're the villains of World War II?
Yeah, I just want to do that.
Which is why I take their money.
And I want you to pay me to do it!
And so the BBC were like, yeah, good point.
We apologise.
We're going to change the social media guidelines just to accommodate you calling us Nazis.
That's what happened, right?
And so Gary Lineker returned to Twitter and started running his mouth again.
But yeah, so that Nazi government that's stopping the poor, innocent, fighting-age refugees That's bad?
Really?
Is it bad?
Bad for who?
Not bad for the average Briton.
Not that they're Gary Lineker's constituency of concern.
But he said, you know, look, it's been difficult these past few days for me, which they haven't been.
You should have seen his smug face wherever he was going on doing interviews, right?
It simply doesn't compare to having to flee your home from persecution or war to seek refuge in a land far away.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about fleeing your home from persecution and war very shortly.
So, Gary Lineker's manager was like, yeah, so that's all fine, because it turns out that Gary Lineker had a special arrangement with the BBC.
Apparently he had a special agreement, so Gary Lineker could tweet anything that he wanted about refugees and immigration, and the BBC impartiality guidelines didn't apply to him.
He's entitled to government money, Carl.
He's entitled to his government job, where he can violate the impartiality guidelines, and Keir Starmer will be like, well hang on a second, the BBC isn't being impartial, when they punished Gary Menaker for violating the impartiality guidelines.
That's the world we live in now, right?
And so Conservative MP Jonathan Gullis was like, well, hang on a second.
Aren't you basically saying that all of the Northerners who voted for the Conservatives under Boris are a bunch of racists?
And Gary Hynck was like, no.
Just because you vote for a Nazi party doesn't make you a Nazi.
Really, Gary?
That's an unfair inference, is it?
And ironically, this is what he said, right?
Gullis said, it's certainly tough and upset all the right people in the right places when, you know, they went after him.
When I talk about upsetting people, I'm talking about the Twitterati, the Wokerati of North Islington, those champagne socialists who pontificate all day.
Those people who I don't care upsetting because they're the ones who want to call the people up here in the North racists, Nazis, like Gary Lineker has done.
Not in so many words, but that is obviously the implication.
If you're like, look, this conservative government that you voted for as a Nazi party, then you're at least sympathetic.
And Gary Lineker replied, oh, I haven't and I never would.
This is outrageous and dangerously provocative.
Really?
It's outrageous to call, to do this to Gary Lineker.
He's just laughing from a position he knows he can't be touched.
Exactly.
It is so arrogant, right?
It's insane.
And the idea that, oh, it's dangerously provocative, that I, Gary Lineker, would be accused of calling someone a Nazi, right after I called a bunch of you Nazis.
Just, alright.
Anyway, speaking of the latest plan by our Nazi government, they're paying the French 500 million to please stop the boats?
Yeah, this is on top of the other hundreds of millions we've already given.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sure it'll work this time.
Yeah, I mean, if you scroll down a bit, right, you get a picture of Macron.
There we go.
Macron and Rishi Sunak having a nose-off.
Thank you.
Who's got the most aggressive nose?
It turns out Macron won that.
And therefore, Macron is going to walk off with all of our money.
Rishi Senec put in a good performance, but... It's only fair, yeah.
To be honest, if that's the way politics works in future, I'm up for it.
Would make more sense.
Yeah, nose physiognomy politics.
I mean, Rishi's making a good attempt there, but Macron knows he's got this in the bag.
You're going to give me all your money, and I'm still going to have the biggest and most hooked nose.
There's going to be politicians breaking their noses.
Yeah, so like you said, we've been doing this for years and it hasn't worked, but Rishi said, it's like, hey, what if we give them more money?
It's like, that's not going to work.
Surprise, surprise.
And what's interesting is not only are they going to take our money and not stop the boats, the EU is going to be like, yeah, so they're going to take your money, but we're definitely not going to stop the boats because we are against this.
The EU... Why did you take the money?
Because you gave it to us, idiot!
Because you're stupid enough to give it to us, exactly, right?
That's exactly what it is, right?
This criminal keeps robbing me.
Maybe you should stop giving him money then.
It's not robbery if you're just handing over the money.
The European Commission rejected Macron's call for an EU-wide agreement for migrants crossing the Channel illegally to be sent back to Europe.
They're like, no.
They're in Britain now.
Britain's out of the EU.
Not our problem.
So all really borders matter now, do they?
That's incredible.
Brussels has no plans to negotiate a migrant return deal with Rishi Senak.
Then why are we giving money?
The European Commission is not envisaging an asylum returns agreement with the UK right now.
At least it's fairly polite.
No?
I mean, that's the sort of polite no we should be doing.
Can I move to your country?
No.
Can we do this?
No.
That's what we should be doing, actually.
I was thinking about this.
So when I was in Serbia, it was explained to me, because you know the Hungarians actually enforce their borders.
Yes.
And people are confused by how they do this.
Well, it was explained.
So what they do, think about this.
So there's the border between Hungary and Serbia, right?
Yep.
And then the Hungarians moved basically like five meters back and then built their big fence.
Wow.
With a door in it.
Revolutionary.
So what they do, but no, this is genius because it gets around all international laws, right?
You just declare that strip along the border.
That's all government property, right?
So what you do is when you catch them, because they're trespassing on government property regardless of how they came there, you grab them, you go to the door and you throw them out the door, but they land in that five meters in between Hungary and Serbia that's still there.
So then you've not done anything but move them back to where is the public land.
Boom.
And they've got no option but to turn back to Serbia.
I mean, it's slightly more difficult for us because that's in the ocean.
No.
So what we need to do... Oh wait, Northern Ireland?
No, no, no, no.
We don't even need to do that.
Oh, okay.
We could do that, but that's... Well, that's a border with the EU.
Yeah, but that might be easier than what I'm thinking.
But either that... What were you thinking?
So I was thinking, but you catch them in the boats, right?
And you can't go back driving them into French waters because that's a violation of international law.
So what you do is you just catch them and move them right up to the French water and then just drive away.
Yeah, but the French Navy's like... Yeah, and then we just keep shooting them back.
There could be a horde of people in there.
Eventually someone's going to drown.
We're going to have to leave them on the border of Northern Ireland.
People already drown.
I know.
Moving on.
If it has to end.
But also Northern Ireland, you're right.
If it's not as bad as the French agreeing to take off 500 million and the EU saying, look, we're not doing that.
The EU has also come out and said, look, Europe, you need to start deporting your own illegal immigrants.
Gary.
Gary!
Europe has been taken over by Nazis, Gary.
That's your complaint, isn't it?
The EU is currently a Nazi state, by your standards, is it not, Gary?
I hate this country.
I hate the people in it.
I hate the people in the news.
I hate every member of an institution in this country.
I just hate it.
Having a good day, are we?
I'm having a perfectly good day, but this just so annoys me!
You're a bunch of Nazis trying to get rid of these illegal immigrants in Europe.
Why can't we just remain?
Brexit was an evil project.
They're doing exactly what we should do.
And we're just too stupid to do it ourselves, right?
The European Union urged its member countries to deport more people who enter Europe without authorisation, and who are not eligible to stay, saying that only around 1 in 5 would-be migrants who should be sent home actually is.
They're like, look, you've got literally 80% of the people who have come here, shouldn't be here, get rid of them.
We're only getting rid of 20% of the people who should be deported.
I said, well, I don't want to have to agree with the European Union, but this is the right thing to do.
Assholes.
Sorry for swearing, but it really drives me mental.
Last year, we had a return rate of only 21% of those who were not eligible to stay, says the EU Home Affairs Commissioner Yvleur Johansson at the European Parliament.
Before he zeked Heil and marched out of the room.
It's a woman, but yeah, she did.
Presumably.
Yeah, she goose-stepped out of the room, wearing a Nazi armband.
I do love that meme, though.
It's just like the Holocaust.
It's all those Jews trying to sneak into Auschwitz.
I mean, that's actually what these people believe.
Yeah, it's actually what Gary Lineker believes.
But when we fail to return people, this hampers our system and erodes trust.
Yeah, as Rishi Senak has found.
And for some reason we're still letting hundreds of thousands in.
Right, so... I mean, literally, this is just... It just drives me mental, right?
To protect the right to apply for asylum, we have to show that we are appropriately dealing with those who do not qualify for international protection.
We need migration, but there has to be a legal and orderly way.
That's literally all the Conservative government has said.
May as well be word for it, they're probably lifting the Conservative government's script.
And yet Gary Lineker isn't like, ah, Nazis have taken over Europe.
Then in our own parliament, we go over to local Labour MP for a very diverse constituency in London.
I won't play her speech or anything, because she summarises it in that tweet.
We need safe and legal routes to the UK.
We need the illegal migration bill thrown out of Parliament.
You know we do have safe and legal routes, right?
We.
Yeah.
Why would a British person need a safe and legal route to immigrate to the United Kingdom?
Well they don't, obviously.
So when she says we... The international foreigner race.
Yeah.
Who is the constituency of we?
And why is this occupier in the British Parliament if she doesn't consider herself one of the British?
I really hate this rhetoric though, because what they're saying, every single one of them does this every day as well.
I covered a debate like three years ago where they're still saying, well we don't have safe and legal routes.
We do, you can literally list the programs.
Like we have the, what is it, the Syrian Young Vulnerable Scheme that takes in thousands every year, still, somehow, even after all that's happened in Syria.
No war in Syria.
We have programs with the UN, like how do you think North Koreans get here?
They're not coming over the channel.
Like, no, we call up the UN and say, yeah, we'll take some if you've got some.
Yeah.
And they come.
Yeah.
But it's... we.
I just can't stand this we.
There's no we here.
I don't know who this person is.
Anyway, let's have a look at the migrants very quickly, just to remind ourselves.
Think of the women and children, says Gary Lineker.
I'm thinking.
Yeah.
That's all I can do.
I can't picture any.
No, no.
What I love about this as well, they've got the one child on the dinghy there, right?
And so child front and center, you know?
Don't look at all the other fighting age young men.
There's one child on this.
Incredible.
So it turns out the nine out of 10 immigrants who crossed the channel in 2021 were male, obviously.
Deport all men.
Yeah.
No more male immigration.
Yeah, exactly.
Between 18 and 35.
Literally all of them.
They're adventurers, as you can see by just any picture.
If you just go to the next one, you can see, like, just... Come on.
Come on!
What are we looking at?
Ukraine on the left, and I think that's Libya on the right over there.
Which is, um... Average Libyan man, yeah.
Yeah.
None of them from Libya, but that's all in the story.
Obviously not.
Yeah.
But as the Times said, in 2021, there's 28,000.
So something like 26,000 of those will have been just men.
You know what every society begs for in their immigration policy?
Just random young men from Yeah, the most dangerous demographic in every society, which is young men, with no connection to the land.
That'll decrease the danger on your street, next to your kids.
It'll be fine.
Well, that's what Gary Lineker thinks, because he actually took in refugees.
Everyone's always like, well, Gary, why don't you take some?
He's like, he did, actually.
Not the average refugees, Gary Menick took.
This is weird.
Also had a few more homes than refugees he took, which is strange.
Well, yeah, okay, yeah.
I mean, he took two refugees, not concurrently, so one, then another, into one of his palatial mansions, that's true.
But he told The Sun he could not comprehend people who criticised him for wanting to help people who were being bombed, who were risking their lives jumping on dinghies.
There are no bombs in France.
There are no bombs in France, but even where this person came from, the first one was called Rashid.
He was a law student from the Balochistan region of Pakistan.
Yeah, there's no war there.
We're not bombing there.
Yeah.
Balochistani independence has long since, like, ended as well.
Right.
There's, like, a biting conflict, so...
But he stayed with Lineker for 20 days while studying law in the UK, wasn't being bombed, isn't a refugee, and Gary Lineker puts him up.
I mean, he's risking his life jumping on a dinghy, I guess, but that's stupid.
The journey he would have done, like he would have had to travel into Iran illegally, and then get through Iran to Turkey, and then so forth and so forth.
But then he took another one.
Do you want to take a guess at the country he took another one from?
Was he French?
But they all seem to come from, so... Maybe.
He was eating baguettes.
He was from Turkey.
Turkey, yeah.
Average war-torn country.
I mean, unbearable.
That's why no one goes there on holiday, actually.
Zero tourism in Turkey.
Yeah.
I mean, it's full of Turks.
But yeah, no, even at best, let's say he's some Kurd from the region that has like the communist groups, right?
Yeah.
This is the best argument you can make in Turkey.
I don't know.
He's anti-communist.
They tried to kill him or something.
Just move to another part of Turkey.
The rest of it is perfectly safe.
But that's not what happened, right?
So the previous one was 20 years old, was a law student.
Average refugee.
This one is 26 years old, and he wants to become a rocket scientist.
That's amazing!
Isn't that incredible?
Is the next one some brain surgeon?
Pretty much!
Go after him!
What's interesting, he was caught up in a military coup and had to escape.
Which part of the caught up was he?
Was he in the process of the coup?
Well, that's the point.
If you go to the Wikipedia link just quickly, yeah, there's probably a consequence of the 2016 coup d'etat attempt against Erdogan.
So he tried to coup the government, and funnily enough, that's a crime.
And got arrested, and he escaped 18 months of imprisonment.
Refugee.
Yeah, I'm sorry, we're not actually at war with Turkey, they're a NATO member, so we don't support their coups either.
Weird, we don't support a coup against a NATO member government.
Gary does!
It's like if you took up arms tomorrow, bombed Westminster and then were like, we're refugees.
Yeah, from the law!
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there is an argument to be made that the Turkish army engages in coups as part of a kind of quasi-constitutional settlement.
But I don't care.
Yeah, I don't care at all!
I'm sorry, of course there are problems with Turkish politics, but they're not a hostile nation.
This isn't like anti-communists rising up in China that we might want to help, because we want that to happen.
No, they're actually our ally in all this.
Allegedly, anyway.
But go back to the article.
He says that this 26-year-old man was caught up in the coup.
I just love caught up.
I was just caught up while I was, you know, bobbing Parliament.
I was caught up.
It's frenzy.
Yeah, Lineker said, just average refugee, mate.
I love the idea that National Front, that's their defence in Parliament, I was caught up in an attempted coup against the British government!
I'm a refugee!
But that's actually what happened, do you remember those guys who were caught up in a coup against Gaddafi and then blew up the Manchester Arena?
That was the reason they were there.
Yeah, average refugee.
Tried to overthrow the government, had to flee for some reason, I'm being persecuted!
He's not the police officer, and that was a crime!
No, no, no, but the refugee was a smart kid who wanted to become a rock scientist.
He's 26.
He's not a kid, Gary.
He's someone, he's an adult man, who took part in a coup, failed, and was going to go to prison.
I don't think they teach spacecraft design in the Turkish military?
Probably not very often.
But now, he was with us for about a month, and was such a sweet kid, and has now gone to university.
Great, so there's just a...
Fantastic.
Great.
We're on a plane for that.
That's Gary Lineker's.
Yeah, that's a good point.
He probably gets paid by the government to take these people.
But if you can scroll down in this, there's a chart which shows us where this year, this is only from a couple of days ago.
Yeah, scroll down.
There's a chart that shows us where the migrants are coming from.
Down a bit, down a bit, down a bit.
Down a bit more.
That's just the rates.
There we go.
Yeah, more people caught up in coups.
What were the odds of him getting a Turk and a Pakistani crossing the channel?
Well, pretty low.
He didn't get an Albanian people trafficker.
He didn't get an Afghan.
Who totally has no ties to any activities.
To anything.
Afternoon entertainment.
I think that's what they call it.
No one from Afghanistan has ever been involved in anything.
The folks fleeing Iraq and Syria.
Don't know why.
Iran as well.
I mean, I suppose in Iran maybe you could say that they took part in an uprising, it failed, and they have to flee.
But the Iraqis and the Syrians?
I mean, which people in Iraq and Syria need to flee?
The Bangladeshis?
What war's going on there?
India?
Sorry, we're refugees from India?
No, you're not!
Have you seen the GDP graph of India?
It's a goddamn straight line going up.
Yeah, I'm a refugee from success.
Sudan's also not at war.
South Sudan is, but they're not.
Yep.
Pakistan is at war.
Is Eritrea at war?
That'd be a civil war, I suppose.
Their situation's a mess.
Yeah, okay, fair.
But even then, you'd stop somewhere in Egypt, which is not at war.
Yeah, but the average person coming across the boats is not a Turk or a Pakistani man.
Not Turkish or Pakistani students.
It's an Albanian coup enjoyer, I'm sure.
It's an Albanian drug enjoyer, probably.
How many of these people from Kosovo is the question I've always got in my mind.
Yeah, and so anyway, Migration Watch have done quite a nice little summary of all of this.
So while Gary Lineker has very safe migrants living with him, the rest of us have to deal with not-so-safe migrants.
Such as Lawan, Gheen, Aboriginal Mazami or something.
The guy who murdered Royal Marine Thomas Roberts in Bournemouth.
There was one we covered the other day about the guy stabbing him in the back.
I think he also murdered the guy in Serbia.
He murdered two people in Serbia, actually.
He claimed to the UK authorities he was 14, despite being 18 at the time, which led to him being placed in schools.
I was like, right, so you've got this adult murderer, just sat next to these kids, and oh, look at that, he went on to murder someone else.
Gary, you got any room?
Got anything to say about any of this, Gary?
No, he was fleeing being bombed.
Well, by his own bomb, maybe.
I don't... Exactly!
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe it's a four-line situation.
Good point, Gary.
I'm fleeing war.
I may have caused it, but... But then you've got, of course, the asylum fraud.
Yeah, that's actually true of Shamina Begum.
And all the other ISIS fighters.
They're like, we're fleeing war.
I mean, we were the ones who did the war.
Yeah, our war.
Then you've got the guy who blew himself up outside of Liverpool Hospital in 2021.
Lit his own bombs?
He didn't even flee his own bomb, actually.
He couldn't blow up the cathedral, so he was like, well, I'll blow up the hospital instead.
Ah, good.
That was in November 2021.
Then you have the murder of 32-year-old Lorraine Cox in Exeter in September 2020 by a failed claimant.
A Sudanese asylum seeker called Baderadam... I can't say these names... stabbed six people in Glasgow in 2020 in the hotel rampage.
He was fleeing knife crime.
I mean, he was when they caught him.
This is what I'm going to phrase it as from now on.
In June 2020, there was a brutal triple stabbing in Reading.
You remember that one?
More knife crime to be planned?
An asylum seeker.
Homophobic knife crime, incidentally.
There was the horrific murder of seven-year-old Emily Jones in Bolton by a failed asylum seeker in March 2020.
The Afghan asylum seeker tried to murder a complete stranger in Thornton Heath in London, fueled by a desire to kill English people.
Bling racism.
I don't mean to laugh.
Bling racism from the skin of crime.
I don't mean to laugh, but it's just the only thing you can do in the face of all of this.
Like we don't have any power to change this.
Yeah, exactly.
If I had power to change this, oh my God, I would be just very, it would be done within the day.
Trust me.
But the thing is, they go on.
I'm not going to carry on because you get the point.
There are lots of dangers and the, I should have got the crime increase actually.
I did have it up, but I forgot.
I think this is a correct statistic.
I think it's a bow because we calculated 25% of all terrorist incidents that were successful in the last 10 years have been asylum seekers.
Yeah.
Despite making up 0.1% of the population, 25% of the terrorism.
Yeah.
Amazing.
So anyway, uh, Gary Lineker.
Kind of sick of him, to be honest.
If he can flee some bombs and bullets from his own guests.
Sick of his absolute BS narrative.
I'm so tired of it.
Let's talk about American Civilization, which, um... Yeah, a lot of people are gonna be sniggering in the chat.
Yeah, but it sounds like a lot, but after talking about the asylum-seekers blowing things up and stabbing people, American Civilization sounds like a brilliant idea.
Yeah, I...
I have engaged occasionally of mocking the United States, and some people have noticed that, and yes, I do enjoy it.
But I'm actually not hostile to the United States or the idea that America has civilization and culture.
I'm actually quite upset that you hear Americans will say, America doesn't have any culture.
It's just like, shut up.
As foreigners, trust me, you have lots of culture, and a lot of it's kind of insufferable.
A lot of it's also great, and it's also one of the barriers.
You know, I pulled that subject up, which is, when are Americans going to recognize they have an ethnic right to their land?
And one of the things that's stopping them from doing that, I think, is this endless, oh, American civilization doesn't exist, or American culture doesn't exist.
It's all one world culture.
It's like, no.
You have a very unique ethnic group, and therefore have a very unique ethnic claim to your country, like every other country on Earth.
But importantly, the Americans will be like, but what race is American ethnicity?
And it's like, it's not a race.
It's an ethnic group.
Yeah, it's an ethnic group.
Ethnic groups can be made up of multiple races.
Very easily definable.
When you're in a room where no one else is American, you stand out like sore thumbs.
So, we'll start off just by mentioning- It doesn't matter what colour your skin is, everyone knows who the American is.
Trust us.
As black, hispanic or white as you want, we all goddamn know one of the Yankees in the room.
But we'll start off just by mentioning the Robert Conquest reflections on a ravaged century, because anti-socialist studies is definitely important, and something we'll come back to with the decrepit parts of American civilization later.
But I want to start just by talking about the fact that American civilization genuinely is something to behold, and there are some accounts... We're not going to have a bunch of Lizzo pictures here, are we?
No, no.
That is not something to behold.
Well, I mean, it is actually a kind of marvel of the world.
You could try and hold it.
It's just like, okay, we've got this giant, flat, black woman in a very revealing thong, and everyone's cheering.
No, I'm thinking about the things that you would actually point to and be like, you know, good job.
Oh, okay, yeah, not that.
Because, I mean, when you think of English culture, I mean, no one turns around and is like, oh, I'm so proud that we lock up people for racism.
I'm so glad that Count Dankula has been arrested.
That's not what people would point to as like, oh, isn't that fantastic.
But if we go to what they have instead, they've got some things.
And this account I quite like, American Aesthetics, which he basically just posts pictures from the past or present which are very American.
And they are very American.
Well, just this one here just manifests.
Or pretending they went to the moon.
You don't even know what this is, do you?
No, I have no idea.
You have no idea what you're looking at, do you?
No, but that's kind of what it reminded me of.
People who would deny the moon landings never know anything about space.
No, I don't know anything.
So this is Voyager.
This is Voyager leaving the solar system here.
You can see Earth there in the background, but it's going to go on to leave the entire solar system and then go out to God knows where in the universe.
Do you know what I can't see on the moon?
The lander.
I'm not even going to engage.
We'll go to the next one here.
We'll get the point that, you know, the space program, amazing.
American politics as well.
God, he really looks like an Oompa Loompa there.
I've edited that a little bit to make it look more like an image.
I don't recall him being quite that orange.
But it is true, he is the orange man, and I like it.
I don't dislike it at all, but that's really unflatteringly orange.
But when do you ever get this kind of painting of a picture from British politics?
No, Trump's 2020 campaign was incredible.
I mean, it is just true that American right-wing politics is something definitely to behold in the way they're able to bring up the aesthetic nature in their rallies.
And that's not for no reason either, because the thing that comes along with that is obviously the power and the wealth of the United States.
And you can see this whenever you just look at their military.
Whenever we bring someone back... Sorry, there's also the kind of lack of shame that the Americans have.
Yes.
Which is embodied perfectly in Trump, which is in a way kind of admirable.
The reason they have that too, I think, is because, yes, they are just an unbelievable powerhouse.
Yeah.
I mean, this is something everyone doesn't really understand how wealthy the United States is compared to everyone else in terms of the wealth and money and power in military they can bring.
Until you sit down and look at the machines they can build.
You'll get the next one here.
This is just the Navy.
There's just some guy, like, I think, looking at one of the aircraft carriers.
And you just think, like, and that's just one of them.
Yeah.
I mean, we have, I think, what is it, two or something?
And we're in awe.
I think we're ordering two more.
Most of them don't have planes.
Yeah.
There's overflowing with planes.
And just the meme that everyone obviously brings up.
Biggest Air Force on Earth, American Air Force.
Second biggest, American Army.
Third biggest, American Navy.
And then fourth is like Russia.
After those three.
But then we have mythical life itself from American aesthetics.
Do you remember how these things aren't real, Carl?
Oh, what, families?
Living in houses?
How unrealistic this is!
Having a wife and a kid?
Are you mad?
This is just like the picture of England, with the little truck going along and a woman walking a dog.
Ludicrous!
Turns out the Americans also had cameras.
I've discovered.
Really?
There is photographic evidence of that.
No way.
Old world.
No way.
Yeah, there you are.
Nonsense.
Yeah, that's a photo shoot, I think.
Obvious mid-journey.
You know what's funny about that modern conversation is I bet the Soviets would tell people that these pictures were of like the top 1% in America or something.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Be like, no one can achieve this except the billionaires of the United States.
Yeah.
What, a car and a house?
Yeah.
No, it's totally average.
But then we get the old world beauty that the United States, I think, used to have.
I mean, that was Detroit there.
Look how things have changed.
This is San Francisco.
Look at it.
It looks like the Pope's Palace, actually.
But it's like they've actually appreciated classical architecture, put it into- Sure, that's San Francisco.
Yeah, this is the World's Fair.
America used to do World's Fairs on a really cool level.
That look, honestly, John, can you get up like the Pope's Palace?
Well, the Vatican.
Yeah, the Vatican Palace.
So it looks a lot like it.
Well, that's the point.
I went there a few years ago.
The United States has traditionally a high respect for classical architecture.
It's why the Capitol building is actually a marvel.
We forget about how kind of pretty it is because you see it all the time until you sit back and go...
Yeah, no one else is going to build that.
Yeah, yeah.
But it is actually really cool that you built that.
In the same way that you look at the Hungarian parliament and it's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, see?
There you are.
Looks very similar.
And everyone will sit there and marvel at how the Vatican is amazing.
And yes, it is.
But then, you know, the United States used to appreciate such things.
Yeah, you used to enjoy beauty.
And if we go forward, I mean, Chicago used to really be something as well.
This is Chicago, 1893 there.
It's beautiful.
I've been to Chicago.
It doesn't look that nice.
No, it doesn't.
I'd be like, that family there, that photo was taken in Chicago.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
And it's just like, how does that house look in these days?
There are parts of Chicago that are still nice, but there are also parts where literally they're like, just don't go there.
I know, but the amazing parts of American civilization and American culture, um, you will notice they only come from one side of the political aisle.
Let's be frank.
And, uh, the other side's policies do not produce this in Chicago.
No.
I don't think there are many buildings like this in Chicago anymore because something changed and now it's run by Dems.
There's also, if we go to the next one here, there's more of it.
Just, this is very nice.
This is some guy, uh, some picture, I think this is of Chicago World Fair.
This is more of it.
Really?
So you can see, like, I think one of the buildings we just showed is in this photo somewhere.
Notice there's not a single giant glass and steel building.
No, there used to be people on boats, like little gondolas, to go up the river here as well.
Amazing.
Wonderful evening out.
Amazing what's been lost.
The guy's speaking here, he's like... Yeah, I see the guys with the... We should bulldoze Chicago and then rebuild this as every building and just rename it Columbia.
Yeah.
Not a bad idea.
It's a great idea.
And there's other aesthetical uniqueness about American civilization.
He just posts, like, more modern ones that they still have.
Like, this is just the state trooper uniform in Rhode Island.
Oh, really?
It's just like, that's great.
That's fantastic.
They look like the Canadian Mounties.
I know, it's very similar.
But then you compare that to the clown uniform our police wear.
Where's your high-vis jacket?
Why would I need one?
You see the men in suits and you're like, that's the cops.
So don't mess with them.
No, that does look great.
Make America drip again.
These things are important.
And then if you get the next one here, this is just his media postings.
Just scroll, I guess, so people can just have a look at various postings he's made of just various Americanisms.
And it is right to say, I'm not so much one for natural beauty, so I didn't really focus on that.
I know a lot of people do.
But for like actually American civilization, because that's the difference.
The mountains and things aren't American civilization.
It's the people and what they make up of it.
They did have a civilization once.
Yeah, and I think they still do have kindling in there that they can work with.
But that's that.
And admiring what can be and what has been and what sometimes still is, is obviously interesting.
But then we get back to the United States, and I did notice Lauren Shen posting this.
This is a Ukrainian supporting account.
They're like, look at this, kids in Crimea being seduced into militarism because they're being taught how to load AKs and salute and blah blah blah.
Yeah.
And Lauren Schoen was like, well, this is far better educational activity than sending them to be seduced by a drag queen.
Not wrong.
Yeah.
I did see Nuance Pro posting, it was like, well, I'd rather this than the LGBT ideology.
Well, obviously.
Yeah.
I think everyone's in agreement.
Everyone who's not left wing is in agreement.
And you think back, I mean, he had some photos of, like, American education back in the day.
It was like, yeah, you probably should taught your boy how to shoot.
Well, they all used to.
I mean, I did when I was in school.
It's not wrong.
Honestly, we went to Cub Scouts and learned how to shoot 2-2s.
Like, every child, I think, should learn this.
I mean, I know there's the uniqueness with Crimea.
I'm not going to get into that.
I mean, if you're supposed to be, like, a citizen, Yeah.
Especially if you're an American citizen, I feel like.
Seems... There's nothing more American than a young boy learning how to, like, take care of guns, I feel.
Correctly.
Well, yeah.
Traditionally.
Yeah.
Anyway, we'll go to the next one here, because at the same time I saw that post, I scrolled down and then saw the Florida Dems.
There should be a DeSantis Ballroom post in here.
There we are.
Florida Dems, you're raising our trans babies.
Yes.
There's no such thing as a trans baby.
Which way, American man?
Do you want your civilization to be birthed?
Yeah, I feel like your past should give you an indication.
And, um, well, you used to do it.
Just ask the average parent.
Do you think there's such a thing as a trans baby?
No?
Well, this person does.
Are you voting for them?
Trust me, my policies will bring American civilization black to its glory.
Demented.
Do you really think trans babies?
I have a baby.
They're not, they're not trans.
No, but just, like, you look... No baby is trans.
This is my point, like, the bad things of American civilization are obviously dropped and forgotten as you go.
And the same thing with English civilization.
Like, no one in a hundred years is going to be like, oh, I'm a teaboo.
Why?
Because I love that they locked up Count Dankya.
That's ridiculous.
That's going to be forgotten for the dark thing that it is.
And the same thing here.
And no one's ever going to look back and be like, you know what?
America was brilliant when there were transing babies.
You know, there is going to be, hopefully, you know, in like a hundred years, they'll be like, did you know that back in the early 21st century they would literally transition children?
They even thought babies could be trans.
That's ridiculous.
Like people are going to play them these clubs.
Yeah, exactly.
And it'll be like the lobotomy stuff where you'd be like, there's no way a guy just drove around doing like four lobotomies a day.
That's mad.
What did the president used to post back in the day?
I don't know, man, but they used to talk about the slippery slope.
Let's go to the next one here.
I think we have the slippery slope posted by some anon over here.
President Biden posting about transgender children.
I don't believe it.
Yeah, I love how this guy notes, 15 years ago, let the gays buy cake.
Now let people mess with children's genitals and hormones.
I thought you all promised me that the very worst kids were not going to be part of this.
And now 100 years, mentally old, deficient, powerful men are writing about transgender children.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it didn't take long, did it?
I do love, there are some memes from that era, like the Obama era, conservative memes.
It's an account that I post sometimes.
And one of them is like, if we let gay marriage through, then the terrorists will win.
There'll be transsexualizing children and there'll be a virus all over the world, destroying the world.
And it's like, yeah, that's 2022.
Yeah.
I mean, that's obviously happening.
What now?
Yeah, so that was a year.
And, well, those memes have come about in a new way.
There's also just, what does Biden actually post on a day-to-day basis?
Children's postings, apparently.
Yeah, I saw this.
Him saying, well, some child wrote to him, apparently, saying that, I wanted to tell you that it's not fair that ladies are getting paid less than men.
And Biden's like, I agree as much as I do, Charlotte.
There were some community notes that used to say, well, this is obviously untrue.
Yes.
Men and women are paid different depending on their skills, age.
Women work fewer hours than men.
Now what?
Blah, blah, blah.
But that's the level of sophistication you're expecting from an American president.
I mean, this is not one of those postings.
I mean, from America to cynics, they used to post stuff from American presidents looking chad as hell.
And they did, on occasion.
Not one of them.
I don't think there's gonna be anything from Biden that screams chad as hell.
I mean, I just... I hate the sort of, like, my child is concerned about the issue that I talk about.
Amazing.
Yeah, that's a coincidence.
Yeah, I just don't care.
Really?
They didn't massively disagree and go, oh, I don't know, I've been reading a lot.
How many decades of research did it take Charlotte to come to this conclusion?
Zero?
Oh.
Cool.
But if we go to the next one here, there's also Portland Civilization, which is just going to be thankfully forgotten, but it is something you live with in the United States.
I went to Portland.
It was lovely.
It was five years ago.
It's obviously changed.
A lot can change.
Let's enjoy some of those changes.
Let's play that clip.
Island crime, filthy streets, high taxes and homeless camps.
Now they've lost population three years in a row and experts are predicting a fourth.
And the people that are leaving now tend to be on the liberal side and high income earners.
Everybody moved and it was because of all of these things.
And it didn't feel like things were being managed.
In addition to record murders, Portland has also set new records for car theft with 11,000, vandalism with property damage of $19 million.
Walmart is closing its only two stores in Portland this month, and Nike closed a huge store in the city over brazen shoplifting.
2021, the city gave out more than 6 million needles, and 177,000 were picked up on the streets.
There's shithole communities in America.
And that's one of them.
I mean, these people who are like, oh, I'm a liberal, I have to leave Portland.
You voted for this.
What do you mean, you have to leave?
You voted for exactly what you're getting.
When do you ever hear a Republican say, well, I've just got to leave my state.
Why?
It's unbearable.
I kept voting red and it became unbearable.
No, no one says that.
Texas and Florida, hell on earth.
Can't live with it.
Yeah.
I mean, even from the flyover states, as they're called, people who live in the country, they're not usually like, you know what, I hate the countryside.
You know what, the party I keep voting for just keeps making this place worse and worse and worse.
I have to leave now.
And to get back to Portland, this is probably like Maoist era just level of smart policy here.
Yeah.
This is Andy Ngo posting.
I love how he's still got... What's this guy doing?
So he went to a shelter to get a load of free water bottles, which they're giving out because, oh, innocent homeless who are there because, I don't know, they got fired from their evil landlord and boss.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not that they're all on drugs.
Yeah.
This guy over here, he goes and gets these bottles and then he sits there and empties them into the gutter every day and then takes the bottles back and sells it for cash because you get money for recycling plastic bottles.
I love this sort of new take on broken windows economics.
This empty bottle economics.
Yeah, it's the city paying you to give them water bottles and also giving you water bottles for free.
And then giving you money when you bring the water bottles.
So the water bottle to drug pipeline is real.
Yep.
And there.
Amazing.
Great.
Just amazing.
Also, I thought we'd check in with the average Californian man.
The thing is as well, if you go back to that, that's probably about $3.
Well, it's 10 cents a bottle.
Yeah, exactly.
So it adds up.
Yeah, okay, adds up.
I mean, look, he's got like three crates there of bottles.
Sure, which is probably about 20 bucks.
Yeah.
In total.
Get rid of it?
I mean, you literally empty them outside the building you're getting them.
Gasping.
I don't know, he's probably getting paid more.
He's not paying tax either.
Just the amount of money wasted on this must be disgusting.
It's what you get, and what you deserve.
Speaking of, the average Californian man.
This is what California gets and deserves.
Oh yeah.
Local man goes to California representatives and is like, well, there's only one thing that will stop our kids from busting into these jewellery stores and stealing watches and jewellery, and that's reparations.
I don't think that's the only thing.
Do you remember when the Vikings used to come to England?
Yeah, we know it doesn't work.
We gave them money to go away.
And when they came back, we were like, give more money.
Yeah, it had to be fixed by violence.
Yeah, you actually have to enforce the law, which is, uh, England's not for the Vikings.
And that worked.
Amazingly.
If you just say no to the criminal that can't legally rub you.
And then you use force to make sure that saves the place.
So the absolute entitlement, look, I know that the black community is apparently, according to this guy, stealing and breaking into these stores.
But if you give us money, we won't.
And then we stop giving you money, what will you do?
But that's just such a phenomenal extortion, it's like... Yeah, but can't we just defend our property?
No, it's racism.
Right, okay.
This isn't the only part of the world in the United States as a civilization that are falling apart, of course.
Kevin O'Leary did something amazing.
Quite a long clip, but he went on CNN, and we just have to enjoy every minute of it, and just laid out to them why their ideology is destroying the country in real time.
Okay, yeah!
This is absolute gold.
Let's play.
And here's the one thing that nobody saw coming, and this is the competition of states.
I don't put companies here in New York anymore, or in Massachusetts, or in New Jersey, or in California.
Those states are uninvestable.
The policy here is insane.
The taxes are too high.
We put them in Fargo, North Dakota, because 40% of the people work elsewhere, including Boston.
So I was, you know, A bit of a debate with Elizabeth Warren about this, but I say, look, Senator, we've got to move the companies out of your state because you're not investable anymore.
You're punishing people if they're successful.
You overtax them.
You hit them with a super tax.
New Jersey, what a mess.
New York, uninvestable.
Wait, why is New York uninvestable?
Try and do a project in New York.
Try and build a data... Yeah, I'm asking, Don's point, is it beyond the taxes?
Taxes!
The regulatory environment is punitive.
I had a project in upstate New York behind the grid in Niagara Falls for electricity.
A global data center we were building.
Eventually it got so bad with the politicians in the local region and the state policy, we moved it to Norway.
And all the jobs.
Norway has it now.
Thousands of jobs coming out of that.
I mean, that is, that's New York.
Uninvestable.
Sorry, don't shoot the messenger, just telling you the way it is.
That's it.
Uninvestable.
Some pushback from our elected officials in New York on that.
I was just going to say Kathy Hochul.
Yeah.
I'll debate them any time of the day you want.
We would love to.
Particularly the AOC.
She's great at killing jobs.
She kills jobs by the thousands.
You know another New Jersey problem?
Where did Amazon take their jobs?
They took them away from her.
She threatened to sue them if they created jobs.
I mean, this is a reality.
There's a little more to it, but let's not relocate that.
He's saying what a lot of people are saying, especially what happened with that Amazon thing here in New York.
Our family grew up in Boston.
We left there to move to Florida, like everybody else is, because it's such a tough place to... You know, this is a tough message.
People really are critical about this, but somebody has to call it out, because this is a competition of states now, and we don't put money there anymore.
We put it in other places, and jobs are created elsewhere.
Over time, this is going to diminish New Jersey, diminish New York, diminish Massachusetts, and California, out of business.
Out of business.
El morte.
No business there.
You can't do business there.
I don't know what that place is going to turn into.
Maybe a tourist zone.
But no business.
Imagine San Francisco?
You can't even walk at night out in the street.
Sorry.
Let me cope about this a minute.
Hang on a second.
These two women are so uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Because they're just like, he's literally destroying our paymaster's reputation.
Yes.
I love how he lays out, your state is uninvestable because of the obvious reasons your ideology has done this.
And she responds with, well, our elected representatives would disagree.
Of course they would.
Yeah, your boss would disagree.
The Commissar disagrees with you.
Well, that's not my problem.
I can move to a different state.
All the men are dead, Commissar.
Yeah.
I can move to a state where there isn't a Commissar.
How about that?
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Everyone moves to Florida.
I also love his project.
He's going to move it from upstate New York to Norway.
How expensive Norway is to employ people.
It was still better to move to goddamn Norway.
The regulatory environment in Norway is less bad.
It's worth the wage increases.
Yeah, and all the expense of it.
But whatever.
God.
And that's just gold to see in real time you put in their face.
There's also just the other parts of American civilization which we're not going to be sadly forgotten.
But I think our turning, we can enjoy this, which is a MAM 2.0.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I don't know if you saw this but I just love how it- Average American woman, yeah.
In the air you can hear everyone is so done with this crap.
I haven't seen this actually.
Let's play this.
It's like every single day, you guys, and this is why I complain about it all the time.
Look, what's his name?
What's your name?
Alex?
Yeah, your name's Alex, and I'm gonna be talking to your manager.
This guy called me sir.
This happens every fucking day.
Everywhere I go, I get called sir.
I'm so fucking tired.
Why would you call a chick?
Big-ass tits!
No, stop trying to gaslight trans people and tell us that we're crazy.
Crazy.
You need to f***ing be mindful of other people and stop being a f***ing scumbag and you're a liar.
I heard you.
Stop f***ing gaslighting trans people.
Wait, what?
Did you call me sir again?
What was that?
You said goodnight, sir?
Alex, I'm going to be talking to the corporate about you, you motherf***er.
F*** you.
Okay?
That's bulls***.
You don't f***ing harass trans people at work.
Yeah, you didn't.
I'm walking down here like, have a good night, sir.
What the f*** is up?
No, you don't f***ing do this to trans people.
This is discrimination.
No, this is discrimination.
I'm f***ing done with it.
No, I'm gonna talk to corporate about this.
You don't harass trans people.
Hey, you know it's one of those stupid things when you're catching Karen.
You called me sir, and you're talking s*** calling me sir on the way out.
This is transphobic harassment!
You're a f***ing bigot!
Imagine having to deal with people like that.
Yeah, but what I do love is that everyone in the room is so done with it.
Yeah.
Like a Karen meme where she's like, I want to talk to your manager.
Someone's screeching about, it's MAM has got to that level.
Well, then let's off with one more thing.
I'm the manager.
I'm not interested.
Go away.
Yeah.
You're a crazy person.
The most revealing thing about all of this is this interview recently which was gold and it's this lady who's interviewing this guy and what's amazing is you can tell like he just lives in fear like a lot of Americans do of a camera because they know what's true and then when the camera comes out they've got to give the spiel.
Oh yeah.
And let's see it in real time.
I grew up as a white man, and you're the exact opposite, you know?
And so it's like, my experiences are gonna be different from yours.
How come?
I think, uh, you know, there's a thing of, like, white privilege.
What privileges do you have that I don't have?
Oh, see, that's the question I keep asking myself, because, like, in this day and age, like, all the laws, I say all the laws, you know, it's hard to speak on something I'm not fully knowledgeable of, so, like, I'm sorry if I, like, make a mistake, uh, in saying this, but it's like, like, uh, Don't you think it's a problem in society when white people think that they have more privileges than brown or black people?
Yeah, and I think that's sort of the agenda that's pushed off, because personally, it's like, not that I think I'm more privileged than anyone else, because I had to work to get where I was, and that's like... So why do you have that mentality immediately, where you, you know, kind of apologize to me, like, let's talk about privilege, let's talk about, I'm a white man in America, so we could have grown up differently.
Why is that your first initial reaction to me as a brown woman?
Wow, you're getting me good.
See, these are the kind of conversations that I love having.
And I think it comes from a place of like, I wouldn't say caution, but like in this day and age, people are so quick to judge and react and cancel.
And so I guess it's that like caution to go into an interview like this.
I'm like, I don't know where we're at, but now I know where we're at and I can like go for real.
Right, so he's being held hostage.
Yeah, but you can tell most Americans are held hostage in that regard.
Yeah.
Like, camera's out, quick.
Pretend you're not one of them.
Yeah, pretend you're woke.
I mean, Jesus.
Say the woke thing.
That's what he did on camera.
And that's American civilization in my view.
It's got some amazing stuff, but also a lot of things.
You can see what's eating it alive from the inside.
Yeah, it's definitely not like the Republicans destroying the country on that level, and of the things they actually produced.
I mean, none of that makes me think, oh, the glory of socialism.
No, the actual good things in those images were definitely not from that.
Anyway, let's go to the written comments on the site.
Someone online says... Yes, but that's only because these are the things they have identified.
When they identify more, they'll add more.
religion, residency status, physical well-being, mental well-being, social standing, and economic status.
Yes, but that's only because these are the things they have identified.
When they identify more, they'll add more.
My funniest is transport method.
I haven't seen them.
I remember David Curtin talking about this.
He went through a bunch of examples of why people... There was a bunch of leftists talking about how... Some people have to use the bus.
Yeah, those who drive cars are white men, essentially.
They're the white men of the traffic world.
I'll let my taxi driver know.
The result being the progressive stack wherein a person's level of oppression is judged using an ever-changing weight of what is in vogue in the social consciousness.
Yes.
Omar says, The problem with defining woke within their framework is they are ideological comedians who will immediately drop their stance depending on whether or not the target is on their side or benefits the cause.
I define woke as anti-Western conservative agenda with the purpose of gaining social and institutional political power through the destruction of Western norms, standards and institutions.
I guess, Again, that's an external definition, it doesn't tell you what essentially it is.
But it is possible for us to nail them down.
They're not actually as ideologically chameleon-like as they may seem, actually.
They do have an orthodox doctrine within it.
It is evolving because they're essentially discovering new ground of nonsense.
This is why James Lindsay's fat bodybuilding didn't make a single impression on them.
It's just like, no, there is an intersection between fat and bodybuilding.
It's just you've discovered that island first.
You've populated it with ridiculous nonsense.
And they're like, yeah, that's correct.
That aisle guy says, Woke is the radical ideology which aggressively uses power under the thinly veiled disguise of tolerance to enforce normalization of anything abnormal or even subnormal at the expense of what non-woke people should consider normal, i.e.
hard work, aspiration, nuclear family, love, liberty, independence, responsibility, etc.
Again, another external definition.
You can point to the things that it does, but that's like saying that the woke is a featherless biped.
Yeah, in a way, but we need the essential, which is rational animals.
I do find it funny in the Anglo-Saxon sphere that political correctness, the justification for it, as he says, is tolerance.
They didn't want to not be rude.
But in, like, Germany, it was always about, oh, this is the scientific truth.
That kind of nonsense.
Really?
Well, whenever you read it, they're always just like, yeah, well, obviously the race is the case.
I can prove it with science.
Yeah, that's fair.
I even once read, um, what is it, like, Himmler's obsession when trying to find the archaeological evidence for the Aryan race.
Yeah, but it's not very impressive.
I remember them complaining.
No, it's absolutely comical.
But what's funny is, like, the justification for the political correctness is, like, well, we can prove it with science.
Instead, in the West, we don't try to prove any of this with science.
They're just like, well, it's polite.
It's the kind thing to do.
Yeah.
I have to say, though, the Nazi, like, archaeology is just genuinely funny, because the Germans were primitive at the time that they're looking at it.
I think there actually is some writing from Himmler.
Yeah, he's complaining.
He's like, don't publish it or something.
Because his conclusion is like, well, the Germans' origin was basically a bunch of people in the middle of mud huts, in the swamps, killing each other for nothing.
While the Athenians are constructing the Parthenon, the Germans live in mud huts.
That's not exactly very flattering to the Aryan race, is it?
Just crying into his diary.
Baron von Warhawk says, Hordes and hordes of foreigners are breaking into our country and taking our daughters' houses and tax money and our British conservatives are upset about this.
This is just like 1936.
These conservatives need to be stopped.
We must protect the poor, helpless refugees of Rotherham.
Gary the Nitwit.
Yeah.
I love that.
The refugees of Rotherham.
Just imagine picking the criminals as the refugees.
I just don't understand how Gary Lineker just has all of these privileges.
Like, yeah, okay, I don't have to be impartial, I don't even have to pay my taxes, and you're going to apologise to me, and I'm going to continue calling you Nazis, and then get angry that you complain that I call you Nazis, and then I'm going to continue saying that actually, no, you just need to bring in these illegal immigrants of whom you know nothing, definitionally, And a large percentage of them, a much more disproportionate percentage of them, are criminals in and of themselves.
And not just, like, you know, tax evading, you know, petty thieves.
Often murderers and terrorists.
I mean, that's what it's like to be at the top of society.
You can just get away with anything.
This is mental.
I mean, like, Barry used to rape kids when he was at the top of society next to Stalin.
Yeah.
You just get away with it.
That's a Jimmy Savile.
Yep.
You know, everyone covers for you.
It's madness.
Yeah, it's mental.
I just can't get over it.
Ross says, Woke is bigotry and racism disguised as benevolent intentions.
That is certainly one aspect of it.
Brandon says, I wonder if anyone can define, someone woke can define woke without the use of a buzzword.
Well, Ash Sarkar did, so there's nothing, it's not an undefinable term, that's the thing.
It's not mysterious or anything.
SH Silver says, Conservatives really need to stop training behind progressives on defining words and semantics.
And this is a great point.
Despite how most people are reviled, I think, by the ideas when exposed to them in reality.
They can obscure this kind of reality by the use of language, by appearing sensible and kind.
Yes, this is one of the reasons, actually, that we spend so much time working on the definition of words.
That's why I wrote a conservative definition of woman.
It's not just adult human female.
It doesn't sufficiently explain everything about what it is to be a woman.
Being woke, it is actually something we can nail down.
I hate linguistics.
It's boring.
The exact same thing took place, if I'm funny about what you're saying there, is that before all of this, you know, people used to have political debates and they would discuss communism versus capitalism.
Yeah.
Back when that was interesting.
I mean, no one does that anymore.
There's no point, right?
But when they used to do that, the communists would play endless word games and also try and position themselves as, oh, we're the nice guys because we're sharing on some crap.
And then you actually go and do the work and you can accurately get rid of them.
Yes.
Conservatives have to admit that semantics is important, basically, which is why I had to do some studying on it, which is really dull.
It's really boring.
But this is why I can just, you know, be like, no, you need this kind of definition, not that kind of definition.
This is why I can define wokeism just off the top of my head.
This is why I can do this.
This is really boring, but you have to do it.
Because otherwise these people will run you around in circles.
Le French Funding to Ukraine says, when the EU tells member states to deport illegal immigrants, you really know how bad of a job the member states have been doing.
The EU.
I know.
But the arrogance of it.
It's just, I can't take it.
No, you can't get rid of those refugees.
What would the EU think?
I think I was right, actually.
I'm just copying their plan.
Justin says, when it comes to safe and legal routes to the UK, as far as I understand it, all they have to do is step on our land to be able to claim asylum, and are not the grounds of an embassy considered sovereign land of the country that runs the embassy?
So surely all they need to do is to get to one of our embassies in the nearest country and apply there, but why can't they just apply in France?
They can.
Because they get refused, and then the EU's like, right, you need to deport them.
The embassy thing is also entirely true.
This is how North Koreans claim asylum in, well, most countries.
It's why the government in Beijing had to start putting military patrols on most of the Western embassies.
They've already got spy agencies.
Yeah, it's to keep refugees out.
The South Korean embassy, I read one of the books, there's a secret entrance to the South Korean embassy the Chinese don't even know about.
Oh really?
And apparently the reason for that is because if they want to pick up a really high-profile defector, they get them in via that route.
Very smart.
Ignacio says, it would only take a couple of censuses to outright stop illegal immigration and hamper immigration in general.
We hereby announce that illegal immigrants are to be granted no rights and, uh, I can't say the rest.
I mean, that would stop them, probably.
Is it a crime in the UK to say the rest?
It's something you might put on your own property.
Well, you're not wrong about the whole, um, that Hungarian solution.
We've got Northern Ireland for that.
I mean, Ireland, if they want to be part of the EU, enjoy the fun.
I don't know why we aren't.
I'd be lovely to put them on the border between Britain and Ireland.
Er, the EU.
They're five metres of land.
Not our problem.
Kevin says, saw an article today of a boat approaching Italy from Libya where the Muslim occupants of the boat threw 12 Christian immigrants overboard to drown.
How nice.
JC says you were wrong, there are bombs in France.
They originate from the previous round of chances.
Fair point.
Good point, well made.
Kevin says, if the EU doesn't want the UK sending illegal immigrants back to France, they should be stopping them on their eastern and southern borders.
All the UK is doing is recycling the EU's rubbish.
Yeah, they should have just deported them already, which is literally the EU position on these people.
Don't know what else we're supposed to say.
I mean, for the love of God.
Henry says, trying to explain that Hitler was woke to a leftist is like trying to explain that candy is bad for you to a toddler.
They just won't believe you.
Also, Callum, the E in my last name is silent.
It's Henry Aslin.
Apparently.
How do you say it?
Aslin.
It's pronounced exactly as you're thinking.
It's a Norman name.
Nah, I'm still going to get it wrong.
Average Norman name.
Mr. Ass.
Baron Von Warwalk says, If you want to know how bad Portland has become, Walmart has pulled all of its stores out of the region, Portland is now too trashy for Walmart.
Well, they probably just keep getting robbed.
Yeah, wouldn't it cost to the left because they kept getting firebombed?
Yeah, and there was some pharmacy in California that was just like, nah, it's not worth it.
We're just getting robbed all the time, we're out.
Your policies, you know, doesn't happen in Republican areas.
Don't know why.
Vote Democrat.
Vote Bloon no matter who.
Anonymous says, I was in Sainsbury's the other day, and the second I looked down the aisle, I knew the person ahead of me was American.
Also, five aisles away, I could hear her.
Yeah, yeah.
Probably talking to a random stranger and trying to make friends.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Probably a perfectly nice person.
Yeah, yeah.
There's nothing wrong with them.
They're so weird.
Yeah, it's not wrong.
They're just unusual.
And they're often very friendly and nice.
you know like they're good people generally yeah yeah but it's it's just could you imagine as a british person turning around and having like because it's not just that's just obviously excuse me do you know where the tomatoes oh thank you that's the end of it yeah well you're not going to start talking about oh where are you from yeah oh what do you do for what and don't get me wrong they're all nice but uh they're obviously american uh Someone online says... There's a lady I follow on Instagram, I should probably send you her.
She's American living in Britain.
She does, like, Instagram videos about the differences, right?
Some of them are incredibly funny, though.
Like, she was talking about, like, customer service, and it's completely accurate.
Like, she doesn't exaggerate the thing.
She does them pretty accurately.
Now, just listening to customer service in America sounds awful, frankly.
It's too much.
It is.
It's just endless conversation.
I just don't want to listen to it.
Yeah.
Someone online says, Slam's Table!
USA!
Bleach Demon says, One thing I really want to mention, as an American, we used to have 50 unique variations of American culture, regional accents, and variations of architecture.
Each city had its own aesthetic and culture, even down to our fast food restaurants.
Then in the late 90s, early 2000s, we began to lose that difference, everything became homogenized, and it's disgusting.
Especially as it seems to clone S-holes like New York and California.
That's a great point as well, actually.
There used to be a variety of American accents you would hear, but now you just don't.
Well, you still do, but less so.
Yeah, you do, but they are very specific, you know?
There used to be, there were loads of different American accents.
The thing I've really got into recently in that regard is the different supermarkets.
It's like a regional domination, right?
Someone sent me, I think it's Bucky's or something.
Alright, it's a huge gas station.
Just take a huge bunch of land, concrete it, build some gas pumps, right?
And then build a ridiculously big mall.
With everything you could ever want.
It's not a gas stop where you can go out and buy Twix.
Everything.
So you just go out to Bucky's.
It's just a gas station, but it's just amazing as well.
Okay.
I'll send you some footage.
The things are huge.
I think they're Texas and that southern part, and they're like Florida.
There's something else.
I can't remember the name of, but they've all got these regional huge stores and they're all different.
So there is that.
Okay.
Colin says, to be fair, I don't think Portland's civilization should be forgotten.
Rather, it should be remembered and even enshrined as an example of where certain types of policy and belief lead.
Well, yeah, that's the thing.
At least Portland can serve as a bad example, right?
It's your only job.
Well, it's literally all California, New York, and Portland are worth anymore.
And Chicago.
Omar says, if we charitably assume that Charlotte is an actual child and not the current writing standard of the Biden regime in turn, it's incredibly cruel to introduce a child to the evils of the world for no other reason than pushing an agenda.
This is a deliberate destruction of childhood innocence on the level of telling them that Santa doesn't exist.
Yeah, it's just not their business.
That's the thing I hate about it.
And it's an obvious attempt to tug at your heartstrings.
Look, Charlotte's concerned about the gender pay gap.
So yeah.
Oh, is she?
Yeah, no, she's not.
Someone online says can confirm New York is awful.
I want to move but would melt anywhere else Yeah, but on the plus side at least you wouldn't be taxed to death And isn't like was it is it New England or which which one has literally zero taxes?
Slightly north of New York.
A few of them have zero income tax.
Go there slightly north of New York.
I think Florida's one.
Yeah but that's really really hot.
Oh sorry we're going to cold places.
So northeast there are a couple.
I can't remember which one it was.
But it's literally live free or die is their motto.
Which is a great motto.
Yeah, New Hampshire?
That's it.
They've got zero property taxes.
Go there, bro.
Do it.
No, no, apparently they've got a 5% one.
Oh, really?
There was one that had zero.
Washington has zero.
Oh, on the northeast, I'm not finding any that had zero.
Right, okay.
Maybe they've changed recently.
Yeah, maybe, I don't know.
But I know one of them is like a Libertarian Paradise as well, and the Libertarian Party actually have something there.
Yeah, it sounds great.
It's the only way you can live in a country like that.
Charlie says, uh, regarding education is important.
Callum, how to spot a yank in a restaurant.
They don't take their hats off when entering, and keep it on while eating as well.
It bothers me every time I see it, it's so rude.
Yeah.
Why?
Baseball caps.
Yeah, why?
Why?
What are you doing?
There's no sun in here.
And you've got it turned the wrong way around anyway.
I don't find that that often, to be honest.
I think that trend's died.
No, but that, well...
but Americans, man, I tell you.
What I can't get over is the sports clothing that they have.
Yeah.
And they wear that in public when they're on holiday.
Yeah.
Why exactly would you take that on holiday?
There's an American guy, he's called Wolters World, he travels the world, that's his YouTube channel, and he'll be like, oh, this is my top 10 things in Sweden, blah, blah, blah.
Very wholesome stuff.
And every single time he talks about somewhere like Sweden, he will talk about the fact that we all stand out because we all dress like crap compared to the locals, and he's not wrong, and we dress like crap compared to the locals, the British as well, because Swedish culture seems to just have a higher standard of dress.
It's all very modernist, so it's not my ideal.
But they're probably wearing shirts, right?
It's all more in fashion stuff, hard to explain, but it's very common, especially the American, as he keeps bringing it up, like the American sports clothing is the big giveaway.
Look, Yankee.
Money.
Rutherday says, photographic evidence is far right Callum.
Bad as indeed.
I mean it's literally what Stalin's opinion was.
George says, American civilization was a fascinating experiment to observe since they were so new and unrestricted by conflict.
Unfortunately, like all empires, they progressed to tyranny at a rather accelerated pace.
Yep.
X, Y, and Z says, do not underestimate the effects of the Protestant work ethic plus bottomless cup diner coffee and being told from birth you can do it can have on a society.
While every other country is out in the piss, Americans are jittery and trying to achieve things.
Yeah, and that's one of the admirable aspects of America that's rapidly being lost.
Huge civilizational benefit.
Don't get pissed every night.
Though they did used to drink a lot.
Yeah, but in the differences, I can't remember who it was, but it was someone talking about the rate of alcohol intake by country and then by history, which is like, yeah, no, if you stop drinking so much alcohol and then drink caffeine, huge spike in productivity.
But also the Americans just always had a very proactive sentiment in their culture.
It's just always been, let's go and do something.
So they've had a massive empty continent to work with.
John, I've sent you Bucky's.
There's some CBS Morning documentary on it.
We don't need the audio, I don't think.
Just take a look at the damn thing.
There's some beaver with it.
Of course, it's got a hound as well, which is a meme.
But just the mauls seem unbelievably huge and they've got everything.
Yeah, it's making me hate capitalism.
I don't know.
Something about it's kind of cool.
It's clean as well.
Well, brilliant, it's clean.
No, but you think of like a truck's petrol stop.
Have you ever pulled over at a services and it's got a nice bathroom?
Yeah, well, very rarely, but like... There's something about this that kind of makes me hate it.
Maybe it is very American.
It's true.
It's so materialistic.
But it is also their culture and their empire and it's... Yeah, yeah, but then...
That's just making me hate Americans.
Yes, the foreigners are different, Carl.
It's soulless, yeah, John.
And I don't blame Americans for enjoying all of this, but like... There is a part of me that hates it.
Chad's just like, Carl's a commie.
I did know we were looking at some... No, the commies wanted this.
They just couldn't achieve it.
The commies would be totally like, yeah, we want that, but we want one with Hammer and Sickle on it.
Made by the state.
That's what they want.
So you're upset that there wasn't commercialisation?
Like the Daily Wire when they endlessly be like, and now from Boll and Branch.
Yeah, exactly.
It's entirely materialistic.
There's nothing that you could call spiritual about this.
This guy's the owner.
Yeah, good for him.
I think his dad started it or something, and then he took it over.
Good for him.
But it's also the scale of the things they build.
I mean, I know it's the car world as well that does that.
But just the fact that a petrol station... The cheapness of land does that.
But when you look at Australia, they don't do it the same way.
They'll do it in Texas, where they're just like, gas pumps.
Yeah, let's have 50 million of them.
Why?
I buy 50 million customers.
Australia doesn't have 50 million customers.
No.
Huge.
Anyway, that's that.
People saying in Bucky's we trust, so you do your thing.
I need to go look at the other major stores.
America just makes me agoraphobic.
What does that mean?
It means afraid of the outdoors, right?
No, no, I'm not even joking.
Just look at that, right?
There's nothing for hundreds of miles.
It's just flat, empty, nothing.
And you're just not used to it.
Maybe it's because I'm in the southwest or something, but I'm used to having hedgerows hemming things in, and then buildings.
And so there is a skyline that's built up wherever you go, whereas this is just empty.
It's just nothing.
I think you're right now.
I feel exposed looking at it.
Yeah.
There's a comforting feeling of being in the English countryside that I can't explain, but I happen to possess, and I felt it in America.
You're driving around on this just massive, wide highway, and this just goes off forever in either direction.
It's just like, where am I?
It's not just the exposed to predators thing.
There are no predators.
That's the thing.
It's worse than that.
It's like an existential crisis.
No, no, but it's existential.
It'd be fine if there were predators.
You'd be like, okay, I'll get a gun or something, right?
But like, no, it's not even about that.
It's about being nowhere.
You know?
At least in England, I feel like I'm in a somewhere.
But in America, I feel like I've stepped into the waiting room in the Matrix.
I'm just like, right, it's just white everywhere, forever.
They are very, very different.
Anyway, love the Ethiopian-American viewers in the chat, and if you want to freak Carl out... One Englishman's thoughts about America.
Just take him somewhere where there is space and he will freak out, I presume.
And then the only thing you come across is a Bucky's.
See nothing for a million miles and then see a Buc-ee's which is even more flat somehow.
Exactly, exactly!
I can't even describe how I don't want to move to America.
And it's not that I don't like Americans or I didn't enjoy visiting, I just don't want to live there.
They're so different.
Yeah.
Anyway, out of time.
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