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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Logocitas for the 6th of February 2023.
	I'm joined by Carl.
	Hello.
	And today we're going to be talking about how the toughs have just won.
	It's only a matter of time.
	The Florida man is bad.
	Trust us.
	I trust them.
	I know, I was impersonating them.
	Yeah.
	And local man convicted of treason, which I just think is a funny story, so we'll go through that.
	But to start off, we've got some of the plug, which is the upcoming Premium Hangout, which we're not allowed to have on YouTube for the obvious reason.
	Yeah, that's me and Connor later, talking about the James O'Keefe Project Veritas revelations.
	Because it's really weird, isn't it?
	Like, if you're working for one of these places, you just go on a date, how can you feel safe talking about your work?
	With Project Veritas existing.
	Basically everyone who's an enemy of the right in America now just lives under constant surveillance in their minds.
	Well, they talk about it as well.
	Leaked emails talk about Project Veritas and stuff.
	So it's just like they know that James Akiva's out there, ready to go on a date with one of your guys.
	You know what happened with Sean Hansen?
	No, what?
	So he's still making episodes where they go and catch pedos, right?
	And he did a podcast recently where him and his co-producer were sat down and they were talking about the fact that they'll get messages now from the pedo while they're talking to him.
	You're not Chris Hansen, are you?
	Yeah, this isn't a Chris Hansen thing, is it?
	Oh, no, definitely not.
	They're like, no!
	And then they go and meet him and he's like, hi, I'm Chris Hansen.
	He's like, yeah, I know.
	Yeah.
	What?
	There was one for Google where the guy, I think it was for Google, where the guy literally, you're not with Project Veritas, are you?
	And he's like, no, no, of course not.
	It's like, great, here's all my secrets.
	Okay.
	So yeah, anyway, we're going to go through the Pfizer one.
	Should be fun.
	Yeah, nice, nice and secure.
	Simple question.
	Are you them?
	No?
	Good enough.
	So the TERFs have basically won.
	I think it's about time to just say it.
	And I say this because their argument not only was obviously factually true.
	You're not a real woman.
	You have no eggs.
	No.
	Can't do the whole copypasta.
	But the argument was always going to...
	We should have got the Joe Biden AI deepfake of it.
	It's always going to be lost, but they, I don't think, have any ability to lose even in the political sphere, at least in the UK. And in which case, if we win this here, well, not us, but the TERFs win it, that argument, well, then I don't see why it won't spread to the Anglosphere.
	So good news, folks, I suppose.
	I mean, the thing is, it's hardly like, it doesn't feel like a very significant victory.
	What was the argument?
	Well, the definition of woman, human female, it's like the dictionary definition since the dictionary was written.
	Yeah, but at least the fad will be over in five years.
	That's what predicted, well, what everyone predicted, which is we'll look back at it with horror.
	I mean, that will be true.
	Actually, I think it'll be comical.
	I don't know, man.
	The argument's about the definition will be comical.
	Of course, the things that happened after it...
	So just to mention something, of course, I've mentioned the Intersectionality Origins podcast, just to get into the nub about why we ended up here.
	Every minority group is oppressed and must join together to overthrow the majority group who are the oppressors, which includes literally anyone.
	Also pedophiles, which will come back around at the end of this in a weird way.
	I wasn't expecting.
	But if we go to Posey, we spoke about this previously.
	It's just like, Posey Parker shows why Turtles win, and it was demonstrable, even in the I don't want to call it polite society.
	The sanitized society.
	The progressive society.
	Yeah, the in-power political parties and the arms of the state in terms of the media there were not able to make the argument convincingly even amongst themselves in question time.
	Look how neat your beard was there.
	A nice young boy.
	Respectable.
	Not anymore.
	Anyway, but it's a valid issue, of course, because if we go forward, we can just see the most recent scandal, because there's always one every day.
	Female prison guards ordered to strip-search dangerous trans-Scott convict.
	So, female prison guards were made to...
	Strip-search a man.
	Cup and balls.
	Even though he's got balls and a cock.
	Anyway, they were asked if they did want to do it, they must submit their reasons as to why in writing.
	LAUGHTER But I don't want to lose my job.
	You must put in writing why you don't want to fondle cock and balls in your job.
	As a women's prison guard.
	It's not really my job.
	It wasn't in the description anyway.
	Is that the person?
	Yes, this is the convict.
	He looks like an 80s action hero.
	Oh yeah, he's done nothing, literally zero, to change his appearance at all.
	He literally just hung up and said, I am a woman.
	I require females to strip search me.
	And the prison system complied.
	And we joked about this years ago.
	Well, you just say it, then.
	You just say it, and here we are.
	Well, I love how you have, like, the occasional TikTok from some 17-year-old who's taking the piss.
	He's, like, pissing in the girl's bathroom.
	And he's like, I'm a woman, how can you not prove it?
	But, no, no, it works as well.
	With all the power.
	And we go to Glasgow.
	There was a rally there from Posey Parker and all the turfs, just being like, Sturgeon is retarded, don't want her.
	And one of the trans rights activists attempts to infiltrate the crowd.
	Spot the trans rights activist.
	Yeah, I wonder.
	The really tall one, perhaps, compared to all these tiny middle-aged women, which suddenly, yeah, yeah, kind of a stand-up.
	I can't remember that it's a generational gap as well.
	There is definitely a generational gap.
	One of the, for people who don't know, the reason why I was in Glasgow is because the Scottish government decided that they would introduce a bill putting all, well, male rapists who say they're women in women's prisons.
	Yes.
	And then Westminster, you know, the British government went, we're vetoing that.
	You don't have any power anymore over this because you're retarded.
	We can't trust you.
	And they screeched for about a day about how this was an English oppression.
	Yes.
	Until the very next day.
	No, it is.
	It's English oppression.
	Deal with it.
	Until the very next day when a man who was a rapist was moved from a woman's prison.
	This is why we're oppressing you.
	This is why.
	To protect your women.
	The entire Scottish nationalist movement very quickly shut up.
	There's actually, I probably should have included, there's a wonderful clip of immediately after that story.
	Someone goes up to Nicola Sturgeon, the leader of Scottish Nationalists, and is like, someone is a woman.
	And she's like, well, anyone who says they are, what about in the prison system?
	Well, I mean, there's conditions in which...
	I thought you would have included that.
	That was an amazing clip.
	Completely forgot about that.
	Anyway, yeah.
	John, if you can find it, actually.
	Basically, Sturgeon was forced to admit that actually trans women are only women under certain circumstances.
	There are circumstances in which they're not women, such as being put into women's prisons.
	That's not acceptable.
	Before you go to the next one here, because it turns out that there's more things.
	Oh, John's got it.
	That was quick, John.
	I was on your own Twitter feed.
	Go on then.
	Let's play it.
	Trans women, women.
	You haven't answered that question.
	Well, that's not the point that we're dealing with here.
	That's the question I'm asking.
	Trans women are women, but in the prison context, there is no automatic right for a trans woman.
	So there are contexts where a trans woman is not a woman?
	No, there is circumstances in which a trans woman will be housed in the male prison estate.
	Is there any context in which a woman born as a woman will be housed in the male estate?
	Look, we're talking here about trans women.
	And I'm now asking about women born as women.
	I don't think there are circumstances there, but...
	So it's different for trans women?
	Well, yes!
	So they're not equal?
	There is a risk assessment process done for trans women that takes account of the nature of the crime.
	Clearly, significant concern arises out of sexual crime and whether it's appropriate for them to be in a female prison or a male prison.
	My question is...
	Destroyed.
	It's just absolutely broken.
	Destroyed in four questions.
	But destroyed by herself as well, in which she's literally laying out like, of course they're separate, but equal.
	Anyway, we have the next link here because here's the turnout there of just all the people who turned up in Glasgow to be like, yeah, women exist.
	That's shocking.
	Yeah, the mass movement in the UK is that.
	Cool.
	We'll move to the next one.
	There was a speech given that I found of note, which was literally just someone shouting, stop lying to my children, essentially.
	Fair.
	She reads about her kid went to school and they started telling the kid that you can change your sex.
	And she's just like, that's not true, stop lying.
	Well, yeah.
	Correct?
	Yeah.
	And then if you go to the next one, there's also quite the reason as to why they are miffed locally.
	Because you may remember, the day after we took away their power, because they're all retarded, the members of the Scottish Parliament, the SNP members, went down to this thing, and you can see the lady there who's the politician, who's like, I stand with the SNP against our vile oppression to not be able to put rapists in men's, sorry, in female prisons.
	And behind her is a chap with decapitate turfs written on it as well.
	Moral high ground.
	Very moral high ground.
	Very progressive.
	Yeah.
	And then if we go to the next one, we can see the kind of opposition that did turn up to the event, which was trans-anti-far furries.
	LAUGHTER Hello fellow allies.
	Do you think my point's...
	I think the TERFs have won.
	Yeah.
	This is my argument because...
	I know the BBC spin this, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, the opposition are comical at the best of times.
	Oh yeah, because we're discussing fascism here.
	Murderers, in their optics, decapitate the TERFs.
	Yeah, I don't think...
	And absolutely cringe in every other way.
	Yeah, and also just...
	Come on.
	Your argument's nonsense to begin with, but...
	Okay, okay.
	These guys turned up.
	You can see the cat uniform.
	If you go to the next one, I think we can see Graham Linhan made a response to this, which is, anyone dressed like this who doesn't work at Disneyland is a nonce.
	I mean, I have severe suspicions.
	I don't know why you felt the need to do this with your day.
	You know what I keep my furry costume for?
	I don't know.
	What?
	Says this person.
	Oh, right.
	That's getting clipped.
	Yeah, that's...
	To go down to protests and insist that we can cut off genitals of children and put them in female prisons and blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, whatever.
	Whatever, man.
	I'm just getting to the point where I'm just kind of anti-freedom, I think.
	This is where we end up.
	It's like this trans furry nonsense.
	Maybe there's something else we need rather than just freedom.
	I don't know why you're anti-freedom.
	This is brilliant.
	This is a fantastic use of freedom.
	Your opposition have dressed up as a cat, turned up with a trans flag like a moron.
	I just want to present this to John Stuart Mill.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I really just want Sir John.
	Look, this is what you're arguing for.
	You know that, right?
	Look, if we insist that these people can't dress like this, Carl, your opposition might look respectable.
	Exactly.
	Why would you want that?
	There's no way that Edmund Burke would have been signing off on this.
	There's my point.
	Let's go to the next one, because there's a speaker from the side of, well, women exist.
	And this person had detransitioned, so they transitioned from 12 to 19.
	Mm-hmm.
	What?
	What?
	And I misheard that.
	Say that again.
	They transitioned from the ages of 12 to 19.
	Right.
	They were groomed.
	Come on.
	Yes.
	And this individual has now realized I was groomed.
	And has come out and they gave a speech here in which they just mentioned that everyone I thought loved me left me immediately.
	As soon as they were no longer the special or trans snowflake who's part of the proletariat of the world standing up against the evil turfs.
	Yeah.
	Dumped.
	Dumped like a hot potato.
	Not interesting.
	Done playing with that toy.
	Gonna go play with a different toy.
	And they are left with the scars.
	Literally.
	That's awful.
	We'll go to the signs of the movement because I just think they're funny.
	So if we click on the left one there you can just go through them.
	Start with the first one.
	Men are not women.
	Brilliant statement, yep.
	Stunning and brave.
	Totally agree, I mean...
	Children are not lab rats, with dollar signs.
	Stop the madness of transmutilation sterilization.
	Oof.
	Yep.
	The next one here, we have...
	It's hard to read that one there, but it's basically how many more do we have to go through?
	And they've got pictures of, I think it's either sex offenders or pedos, who have been sent to female prisons, who are clearly men in a wig, and with the hashtag, keep prison single sex.
	I kind of love that, because I love how you always get just, oh, it's not real, it's a far-right conspiracy.
	We've got the faces and the names.
	What do you want exactly?
	How many more?
	That's a good point.
	In the last image here, a man can't become a woman.
	Simple.
	Simulise.
	Big Baz's wife out there.
	Meet the wife, Susan.
	She's a TERF now.
	Loves her posy Parker, she does.
	Anyway, go to the next one.
	We can see the opposition's signs.
	I don't disagree, though, but it's just such low standard, isn't it?
	It's great, though.
	You can see the opposition, though.
	They were there with transphobia equals fascism, except they've then drawn the three arrows of the trans colours as well.
	God.
	You're embarrassing.
	I mean, the tolerance swastika, which is what that is, is retarded anyway.
	But nobody in their own mind thinks that what the TERFs are saying, as in men can't become women, is a variant of fascism.
	Just no one thinks that.
	This is deranged.
	We're going to become a union of TERFs, and then we're going to overthrow the state, and everyone's going to have to join our union by force.
	Also, doesn't this make the Iranian regime anti-fascist?
	Yeah, but that's actually a thing.
	Wait, that's actually an argument in the anti-par world.
	Oh, right!
	I don't know if you've ever seen that.
	Oh, we support the Mullers because they're anti-fascist.
	It's because they transition gays.
	It's because they're anti-American, basically anyone anti-American.
	Because of the left-wing angels.
	Yeah, good point, good point.
	For people wondering, that's why you occasionally see an account that's got Iranian flag, Russian flag, Syrian flag, North Korean flag, and you're just like, what?
	This is a person who knows what they're talking about.
	Yeah, lives in the West is 19.
	Okay.
	We'll move forward, because we'll go to the next one here, in which a clearly sane person assaults a man because he has a sign that they don't like.
	And then after that, there's some screeching and it's not very interesting.
	Probably shouldn't actually show this video.
	If you could pause it there, please, John, because that individual there then pulls up their top to show off massive scars across their chest and screams...
	And an absence of breasts.
	And screams, I am a man.
	Yes, that's what makes you a man.
	Having your breasts removed.
	Every man has huge scars.
	Yeah, we've all had our breasts removed.
	It's what happens.
	The ladies who don't know, penis inspection day is just a cover for breast removal day, which we don't want you to know about.
	It's a deeply embarrassing thing for 13-year-old boys.
	Coming back to the generational difference, I mean, how old do you think that person is?
	The child?
	Well, I don't think they're a child.
	I think they're like 20 or something.
	Yeah, something like that.
	And so maybe 17, 18 when they had the breasts removed.
	And it's like, I've said this so many times.
	I made stupid decisions when I was 18 years old.
	I make stupid decisions now.
	This is such an important thing.
	Cutting off your genitals.
	Have such life-changing consequences for so many decades afterwards.
	Cut off your thumbs, you're only done.
	Oh yeah, I'm glad I did that when I was 18.
	What other thing on earth do you think you can cut off from your body that won't regrow do you think is not necessary?
	There's no movement of people cutting off their ears or something.
	I'm thinking, yeah, that's a good idea.
	I know, it's just mental.
	Honestly, I'm sad.
	I genuinely feel sad for that person.
	Yeah, well, there are a lot of people, as mentioned, the detransitioners, who are literally just, that's where that person may be in two years.
	Because the thing is, that person is so committed to their position that they have to literally be like, look, my lack of breasts means I'm a man.
	It's like, right, that's really terrible, actually.
	You know, that's actually terrible.
	And I actually feel kind of bad for trying to push them off that perspective, being like, well, not really.
	Because that's...
	Going to really harm their mental security.
	You've brought it to something, haven't you, when you got to that point?
	Yeah.
	We'll go to the next one here, because there's a local scientist, cyclist, sorry, Jeremy Vine over here, who noticed that in his area there's a new trans-right crosswalk.
	You know, just a quick aside on Jeremy Vine, right?
	I don't know anything about Jeremy Vine.
	Except, his tweets keep popping up in my timeline since Elon changed the algorithm.
	And I think I support the exact opposite of everything Jeremy Vine says.
	Do you interact with him?
	No.
	Oh, that's weird then.
	Yeah, I don't know why.
	It must be other people talking about it or something.
	He kind of bait posts, and this is one of them, in the sense of, it's not bait, he's just that retarded, but it comes off as bait.
	It's just a bunch of things that have come up and I'm just like, no, the opposite of that is true, Jeremy.
	Yeah, I saw Glynna is getting more and more radical.
	Yeah, it's great, isn't it?
	Rightfully so, because he responded to this.
	Oh, that's probably how I saw it.
	I'm not even going to get into the debates about the fact that this is bad for a whole number of disability reasons, for horses, for guide dogs, for the fact that it actually costs more than usual paint as well.
	I've actually written to the council about that after he lied to me in Reading.
	But here he mentions, Jeremy, are you aware of the faded pink, blue, and colours are so-called map flag?
	The creator of the trans flag said the colours represented young boys and young girls.
	Why have these colours been added to the rainbow?
	Great question by Glenna.
	I didn't know about this.
	We'll go to the Redux, of course, because they have the story.
	Ah yes, my favourite news advert.
	I love Redux.
	What a bad word said about them.
	I did not know the story.
	I don't know what it is.
	Maybe it's the female mind, but the digging into the humans is always what's most revealing.
	So Monica Helms, born Robert Hodge, Designed the first trans pride flag in 1999.
	In his memoir, More Than Just a Flag, Helms, who named himself after a fictional battle in The Lord of the Rings, describes himself as an enlightened being who has been able to float between multiple worlds.
	Yeah, clearly same.
	Quote, I identify as female, but I'm more of a bi-gender person, Helms Deep says.
	This allows my brain to float between multiple worlds, or solidly take on one role or another.
	Sometimes I'm a man and a woman at the same time, or I can take on...
	A change in a nanosecond.
	Sometimes you need a hobby.
	That's what that is.
	You just need to get out and do something.
	I can change in a nanosecond between a man and a woman, or I can be both of them at the same time.
	You're a TikToker.
	That's what you are.
	When narrating his childhood in the memoir, Helms details how, at the age of 12, he would steal his mother's undergarments.
	Quote, I went into my parents' bedroom and looked through my mother's dresser drawers.
	I found several of my mother's cotton panties and bras, neatly stacked them in piles.
	And the girls in the shadows wanted to try them on.
	I wanted to try them on.
	When I did, I felt exciting to wear them.
	It goes on.
	Okay, so it's a fetish.
	Yeah, it goes on very fetishistically.
	He joins the Navy.
	Pure coincidence.
	It goes on doing more and more weird things.
	And then there's one short story he writes about how there's a 16-year-old he falls in love with who never ages and is perfectly 16 for the rest of...
	Yeah, whatever.
	We'll leave that there.
	And then the article mentions that there's actually a bunch of old pedo designs.
	You know the symbols of pedos?
	What, like the FBI ones?
	Yeah, like those things that got leaked.
	Anyway, there's some old designs back before the flag was made, which are all about light blue and pinks, and that's the symbols for...
	As in childlike pastel colours.
	Because they like to abuse children.
	Oh, like these.
	Yeah, there you are.
	That's the symbols that we use.
	Apparently before this person declared it the trans flag...
	It's unclear whether Helms was aware of the coloration.
	I can't speak.
	I can't say it now.
	Anyway, there's similarities at the time, but when discussing the symbolism behind the trans flag in an interview in 2017, Helms stated that the blue represented young boys and the pink represented young girls.
	Oh, right.
	That seems innocent.
	Nothing to worry about there.
	Pure coincidence, I'm sure.
	I didn't know this.
	This is the thing.
	Hope you're paying attention, Jeremy Vines.
	This is what you're signing off on.
	When they list what it's useful these days, you figure out just how bad this all is.
	The pink, blue, and white stripes have been displayed by MI6, the intelligence service of the United Kingdom, as well as the UK's embassy in Washington.
	The US Smithsonian Institute of American History acquired the original flag to put in their collection in 2014.
	Oh, this is historic.
	And in 2021, Helms formally requested President Joe Biden fly the trans flag over US embassies, which you may remember he did.
	Yeah, I was going to say, of course he did.
	And now you think of it as a pedo flag.
	You know the whole meme of the international American pedo cult that runs the world?
	I mean, it's getting worse.
	The Jeffrey Epstein flying the flag.
	Yeah, because we get the next one here.
	It brings a whole new meaning to these trains.
	I've seen these trains in the UK, people who haven't.
	Progress.
	Oh, no.
	Anyway.
	Whole side note here, because a whole other thing happened with Posey Parker, which I found funny.
	Matt Walsh made everyone upset.
	Yeah, Matt obviously doesn't know who Posey is, right?
	Well, no, he's Matt.
	So it's not new.
	But Matt Walsh decided to tweet out, all a man wants is to come home from a long day of work to a grateful wife and children who are glad to see him and a dinner cooking on the stove.
	That's literally it.
	He is right.
	That is literally all it takes for men to be happy.
	This is literally all it takes for men to be happy.
	We are simple.
	Give us this and you'll have given us nearly everything we need.
	If I don't get it again, I'm going to beat her again.
	It's what my mind did, but I know that's not what he means.
	That's not what he means.
	I know.
	He's just like, all I want to do is come home to a cooked dinner, you goddamn...
	It's not what he means.
	Totally indoctrinated by feminist propaganda.
	It's just the meme.
	Anyway, but Poiser responded to that, saying, All a woman wants is to come home after an amazing woman's rights rally to her devoted husband and wonderful kids.
	We're grateful to see her with dinner cooking on the stove.
	This is literally what it takes for to keep a woman happy.
	Give us that, and that's all we need.
	Oh, that's so natural.
	Yeah, taking the meme.
	So not true.
	But if you go to the next one, we've got Matt Walsh who's like, I would suggest the number of women in the world who want to attend women's rights rallies and then come home to their stay-at-home husbands is somewhere between the realm of 0.0001%, which is a gross overestimate.
	But what I love is Posey responded with, who said it was a stay-at-home husband?
	That's kind of funny to me.
	She's obviously joking, right?
	Yeah, yeah, but I just love the aspect of Matt Walsh being like, yeah, no one's a stay-at-home husband, and Posey's like, yeah, of course.
	What are you, what are you, an idiot?
	Who said he was a stay-at-home husband, blah, blah, blah, and then she goes on to explain her life.
	I just found it funny.
	But we'll go to an end here, which, if we go to the BBC, they've had to now apologise for their discussion of Hogwarts Legacy.
	Oh, really?
	Why?
	What did they do?
	So we're getting it in here.
	Hogwarts Legacy never dies.
	I've seen the reviews have come out, actually.
	I have not seen the reviews.
	All the, like, official reviewers are all giving it, like, 80s, 90s.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, those are 90s.
	A lot of people are upset.
	Anyway, the BBC have had to wish for an apology after they had local, totally a woman on, from some website called The Gamer.
	A website for video game fans, I'm sure.
	Well, Gamergate failed, so...
	Anyway, saying that it's all transphobic and the BBC were like, oh, please tell us more.
	And I've had to apologise for the fact that, obviously, you know, not...
	I don't know, it's a great advertising campaign for J.K. Rowling, to be honest.
	She's a chief transphobe and her game's selling like hotcakes.
	Some individual comes on.
	All they can say is, well, it's a transphobic game, and people are like, yeah, well, you know, thanks, we've already bought it.
	But you're driving in the car on the way home and you hear it, and you're like, well, I know what I'm buying.
	Yeah, exactly, you don't need to sell it to me.
	I'm not buying it either, I just, I think it's funny.
	We'll end that there, for now, and, uh...
	I don't know.
	I just think the Terps will win.
	It's undeniable.
	How are the crazy people going to come back from this?
	They're not covering themselves in glory.
	The Terps have got a position that literally any housewife can agree with, and the crazy people have an insane position.
	I love how Posey's out there campaigning and the transgender pedo-furry turns up.
	It's like, not on my watch.
	I'm going to protest against you.
	And Posey's like, how will I ever recover from this?
	What about your daughter's freedom to chop off her breasts?
	Anyway.
	So did you know that Florida Man is in fact bad?
	You may have quite liked Ron DeSantis.
	I quite like Ron DeSantis because he's doing things I like.
	But have you considered that actually maybe you should be a radical leftist?
	In which case everything Florida Man does is awful and evil.
	And he's, in fact, I'll save the characterizations for a little bit because they're genuinely hilarious.
	Because I don't have any particular animus against Ron DeSantis, obviously.
	Done zero things to annoy me.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I like Ron DeSantis.
	And so he seems like a fairly normal family man who happens to have gained control of the state of Florida and is changing it into a good place to live, which is why millions of people are fleeing from California and New York to go and live there.
	That lots of people agree.
	But before we go on as to why I think that Florida Man is in fact good and not bad, go and check out my book hub that I did with Thomas about Beyond Good and Evil by Frederick Nietzsche.
	Because it was in this that I was persuaded that in fact the death penalty is a good idea and the progressive view on the death penalty is nonsense.
	And this will become applicable as we go through this segment because we're going to hear some anti-death penalty arguments because Florida Man was like, maybe we can hang nonces.
	And they're like, well, we can't do that.
	That'd be terrible.
	And there are actually some arguments as to why they shouldn't do that.
	Well, if you're American, it should be the lethal injection on the firing range or the electric chair.
	Like, they've got trish systems other than hanging.
	Yeah, yeah, they are barbarians.
	So we'll begin with Ron DeSantis plots.
	The reason this is the same thing I'm doing is because this came up in my timeline.
	A lot of what I want to talk about comes up in my timeline.
	So, you know, we're just going to have to deal with the reality of social media.
	But this is one of the Young Turks little subsidiary channels by John Iaderola, which is the man we're looking at here.
	What the hell is going on here?
	790,000 subscribers, 900 likes?
	Yeah.
	10,000 views in 13 hours.
	How does that happen?
	I don't know.
	But I thought we'd go through the arguments.
	Possibly because of the incredibly low quality of the content.
	But as you can see, DeSantis plots.
	Here's what we know.
	DeSantis plots?
	What do you mean plots?
	It's like Sauron, right?
	Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has some insane policies and potentially terrifying plots that he will bring to power if he's elected president.
	As in, this is his agenda.
	This is what he's going to do.
	Every politician has something that they tell people they're going to do if they're elected.
	But this is a plot.
	Plotting.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Plotting.
	Evil plotting.
	So anyway, let's watch clip number one, in which John explains to us essentially his view and framing of Ron DeSantis.
	Ron DeSantis, very popular on the right.
	Some polls, in fact, show that in the primary against Donald Trump, even though he's not a declared candidate, he's winning some of these polls.
	And so we cannot rule out the possibility that he could be their candidate, that he could end up being president.
	So it's important that we know ahead of time who he is and what he's doing.
	So, get Florida man derangement syndrome in your head, nice and early.
	Hasn't declared, nothing's on the table, but you need to be afraid, right?
	So, we'll give a nice list of what Ron DeSantis' wins have been so far.
	Pretty good.
	Let's watch.
	Here is just a taste of the very recent effect that he's having on Florida, what he could bring to the entire country.
	Update on the story we've already talked about.
	The College Board is now actually going to be stripping down its AP curriculum for African-American studies.
	After heavy criticism from Governor Ron DeSantis, just today they announced an official curriculum for its new advanced placement course in African-American studies, stripped of much of the subject matter that had angered the governor.
	And other conservatives.
	So they have purged the name of many black writers and scholars associated with critical race theory.
	The queer experience and black feminism ushered out some politically fraught topics like Black Lives Matter, one of the biggest social movements in the history of our country.
	Can't learn about it.
	It also added something new.
	Black conservatism is now offered as an idea for a research project.
	Honestly, sure.
	So that's just really good, isn't it?
	Like, the conservative governor of Florida has taken control and said, no, we're not going to have critical race theory, queer theory, or any of this other nonsense being taught to children in schools.
	I'm going to clear them out.
	And in fact, I'm going to put in a conservative curriculum.
	I don't think he even did that.
	Well, no, he's floated it.
	No, but it's completely centrist in the sense of like, okay, left-wing nonsense out, and if you want to do right-wing things, that's fine now.
	Yeah.
	It's no longer banned.
	Yes.
	But the point is, this is what you'd expect from a conservative governor of a state, to do conservative things.
	He's doing what Trump should have done.
	And so you can feel the sort of undercurrent of, oh god, this is actually bad.
	Like with the orange man, this is all bluster.
	We knew we were blustering, we knew we were just like over-egging it, but this guy is actually doing things.
	And he seems to be just quite level-headed, frankly, about everything, which makes them even more afraid.
	So, they have to characterize DeSantis in the most charitable terms, as much.
	We're stripping all this out because it's inconvenient.
	He is a racist man running to be the avatar of modern conservative racism.
	That's what it is.
	That's why this is here.
	The avatar of modern conservative racism.
	It's like the altar of Cain.
	It's just DeSantis' face.
	Yes, a giant flaming racist.
	But there's the thing, it's like, okay, so this is literally the opening minute or so of their video.
	So it's like, right, okay, they hate Ron DeSantis, and they have set up a particularly crazy perspective.
	And so one thing they're concerned about is the increased use of the death penalty in Florida.
	Which I'm in favor of.
	Let's watch.
	He's floating two proposals designed to produce more executions, okay?
	Again, there's not enough human sacrifice going on.
	He wants to increase it.
	So the first, Ron DeSantis suggested during an appearance in the Florida Sheriff's Association, was to allow juries to sentence someone to die, even if the jury vote is not unanimous.
	Fine, have a supermajority, he says, adding that execution should be permitted if maybe 8 out of 10 or something of a jury's member's vote for the death penalty.
	What do you make of that, Callum?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I don't think this answer is actually right, though.
	Depends on what crime deserves a death penalty, which we've had this debate before.
	But I just think that's really funny.
	I don't actually think that's probably how it went down.
	It was like, fine, kill some of them, I don't know.
	I actually think the standard at the moment is it has to be unanimous.
	So everyone on the jury has to say, yeah, this person deserves a death penalty for one.
	Which I actually think is a good standard.
	So, you know, the answer is going too far there, but I like his instincts, you know?
	Too many murderers are going unhanged.
	He's good instincts.
	My opponent wants to talk better mileage.
	I want to talk about killing them all.
	So, let's hear from these people why they think the death penalty is bad.
	He wants more people to die.
	He knows the right wants more people to die.
	So, you won't learn anything.
	If you end up in prison, you might well be killed.
	And we have more, actually.
	But, J.R., what do you think about this?
	Death for the death gods, vote Trump.
	The Republicans are actually the party of corn.
	Skulls for the skull throne, says Ron DeSantis, right?
	But the thing is, he slipped it in the very, you won't learn anything in prison.
	What?
	That's not what prisons are for.
	We're not putting people who rape and murder children in prison so they can learn something.
	Well, they didn't know, obviously.
	They just need a bit of retraining.
	We're putting them there so they don't murder and rape anyone else.
	Like, this is genuinely...
	And this goes back to the Nietzsche thing.
	Like, they're...
	This is genuinely the sort of revenge of society against the wrongdoer, protecting society from that person.
	I find this very persuasive.
	So, one thing you'll note, though, is notice how they talk about these convicted criminals who are, in almost every case, murderers, I think.
	I think it is murder that is the minimum threshold for the death penalty in the United States.
	And so they're defending a bunch of murderers.
	They're just completely defending them.
	So I thought I'd just look up every person on death row executed in 2022 by the US. And I just literally clicked on a few of these at random to see what these people had done.
	Because this is the thing that always gets subtracted from the death penalty argument.
	It's like, well, you're just murdering.
	It's human sacrifice.
	It's like, no, it's about just recompense to the person who did something atrocious, right?
	So I just picked a few out.
	Here's Gilbert Postel, an Oklahoma man who was executed for his role in a quadruple slaying in 2005.
	This guy, straight white male, if you can go to the next one, John, just so you can see a picture of him.
	Straight white man, so I don't know why John's in favour of him, right?
	But, um...
	He, his brother, and his father carried out these killings in a blitz attack motivated by the belief that Swindle was responsible for a motorcycle accident that had left his brother, no, sorry, him, seriously injured.
	But the prosecutor said there was no evidence that this person had been involved in the crash, right?
	And so...
	What happened here was absolutely atrocious.
	This guy fired something like 30 rounds from an AK-47, just murdering all these people around him.
	This is what the Assistant Attorney General told the board.
	In her final moments, Amy Wright was screaming and clawing the ground to escape from Gilbert Postel.
	He heard her screams.
	He saw a desperate attempt to escape from him.
	Rather than showing her any mercy, he shot her in the back three times.
	And John's like, well, I mean, this is just human sacrifice to kill this man.
	No.
	No, he deserves what he's getting because he's evil.
	He did an evil thing on purpose.
	He deliberately murdered a bunch of people.
	At what point are we going to agree that he could be let back out in society and not do this again with a high proportion of that happening?
	I mean, at minimum, it's like people usually say, 40 years or something.
	Why not just kill him then?
	Death by prison is still death.
	That's missing the core of the argument.
	No, no, no.
	What is justice for someone who just decides to murder mercilessly, execute a bunch of people?
	There's no coming back from that.
	These people never think in terms of justice, ever.
	They only think of rehabilitation.
	That's why they're like, how do we let the child molester back on the streets?
	It's like, again, like you said, he's not in there because he didn't know.
	Yeah, and he's not even in there to rehabilitate him either.
	It's like, look, there are some things that you have crossed a threshold, and I think murdering a woman who's desperately crawling away from you wantonly is one of those.
	Cosmic justice demands that you suffer the ultimate price.
	Let's get to the next one, right?
	Frank Atwood.
	He killed an eight-year-old girl.
	Back in 1984.
	Maybe she had it coming, says the Young Turks.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, but have you thought about Frank Atwood in this event, you know?
	And so, yeah, she, this young girl called Vicky went missing after leaving her home in Tuscan, Arizona, to drop off a birthday card into a nearby mailbox.
	Her body was then found in the desert, and he was found guilty because he, you know, whatever evidence they can't.
	And the girl's mother was like, finally, justice.
	I mean, who knows?
	The problem is, right, we don't actually know what he had done to her because her remains were found decomposed in the desert, right?
	And so who knows what he did to this eight-year-old girl before she died?
	Probably quite terrible.
	I mean, murder's enough.
	Yeah, the murder is enough, but it's probably worse, right?
	So, yeah, he deserves to have the worst punishment.
	Sorry.
	God.
	The chat.
	Maybe she was Armenian.
	Okay, chat.
	The next one, Kosal Chanthra Kumamene.
	I can't pronounce that.
	But he murdered a woman called Sarah Walker, who was brutally beaten and stabbed to death while she was showing him a home in an area of a place called McKinney.
	She was an estate agent, and she was showing around her, and for some reason she has to murder her in the home, stabs her to death after Bruce Lee beating her and then stole her watch and ring.
	Like, sorry, like, oh, but I'm a changed man.
	Yeah, but that doesn't bring her back.
	Like, sympathy for the murderer is prejudice against the victim.
	And I think we should, in fact, have sympathy for the victim.
	So, in fact, this person gets what he deserves.
	The next one is just Kevin Johnson, a death row mate who was convicted of a 2005 murder, where he's just gangland execution of a police officer.
	His wife, his widow, sorry, we should say, said when he left for work that day, we could not imagine that he would be executed by someone who gave his life to protect.
	He didn't get to fight for his life.
	He didn't have the chance to be heard before a jury to decide whether he should live or die.
	Yeah.
	Just literally shooting a cop in the head.
	When he's totally at your mercy.
	No, sorry, this person deserves to die.
	This isn't about bloody, you know, reforming them or rehabilitating them.
	This is about an evil person who needs to be prevented from ever doing this again and have the justice that is coming to him.
	This is what this is about.
	And so this is why I'm like, just, I hate the abstraction.
	They never talk about what the person did.
	You know, they never do.
	Anyway, let's go to the next one.
	Ron DeSantis is a horrible human being, and he's gonna do whatever he can to gain more power.
	We saw it happen with Kevin McCarthy trying to get the speakership, Donald Trump trying to enrich himself the whole time he was in office.
	So yeah, he'll move whichever way the hate moves.
	Who knows what he really believes, but he definitely believes in, hey, people's lives are expendable.
	I can say I'm tough on crime by killing more people by the state.
	That's really easy.
	I don't care about people's lives.
	I mean, pro-life.
	I mean, we have to actually look out for the family structure, but let's keep murdering people.
	It's fine.
	They can say this stuff and no one will stop and go, wait a second, you guys have a bit of a conflict of your morals that you have.
	Isn't it just bizarre?
	Isn't it crazy?
	I'm not trying to look up the net worth of Donald Trump, because didn't he lose like 200 million in office?
	400 million, I think it was, yeah.
	Pretty bad enriching himself.
	Yeah, but the point is, like, these people are just totally against sympathy for the victims of these murderers.
	They're like, well, you can't murder the murderers.
	Why not?
	They're people.
	Are the victims not people?
	Well, not anymore.
	Well, I guess not.
	It's just mental.
	But I love the, like, description of DeSantis as basically Sauron, where he just wants power.
	Power to murder.
	He's going to send orcs to the Shire.
	Like, sorry, you're crazy, right?
	But anyway, let's watch this next one.
	They don't care.
	I mean, I have to imagine that he is going to face so much pushback from Marjorie Greene, who's worried about the state of our prisons and how people don't have civil rights and civil liberties and all that.
	No.
	No, they don't care.
	These people aren't really people.
	Just kill them.
	What about the civil liberties in prison, Callum?
	That's the complaint.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene, who probably agrees with Ron DeSantis and all of this, isn't going to push back on Ron DeSantis.
	About civil liberties in prison?
	It's like, she's not a progressive.
	He's not a progressive.
	You guys are mental.
	Absolutely mental.
	Won't someone think of the child murderers?
	No.
	And then...
	That's actually what you're being presented with.
	Yeah.
	Won't someone think of the civil liberties of the child murderers?
	No, I won't, actually.
	And the final clip that we'll go for is...
	Again, I can't help but feel it's a ringing endorsement of Ron DeSantis.
	Let's watch.
	Also, by the way, he wants to expand the death penalty to incorporate pedophiles as well.
	They want pedophiles to be murdered...
	By the state as well.
	Again, the small government will be murdering more people.
	Small government will be murdering more people, including pedophiles.
	Sold.
	It's not a very big government thing.
	Do they actually know what that means?
	No, but like, killing the pedos in the state costs, what, like a few million dollars maybe?
	I don't know how much it costs.
	I don't care.
	No, but it's just the madness of like, oh my god, that's big government.
	That's not.
	Literally saves money.
	Yeah.
	But also, I just love the small government that will murder pedophiles.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's a good idea.
	You don't want to vote for that, do you?
	DeSantis should make that his campaign slogan.
	Or just for the host's face.
	Yeah.
	Small government that will murder pedophiles.
	I think his votes.
	I'd vote for it.
	Actually, that's a great poster.
	That dude's face.
	The quote.
	And then just a little, vote Ron DeSantis.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Payful by the Ron DeSantis.
	Yeah.
	But isn't it interesting that you can't just kill the paedophiles?
	That would be terrible.
	Yeah, but they rape children.
	Pretty good reason to have a death penalty.
	Yeah.
	Actually, the Supreme Court has refused this, right?
	On the grounds that actually, if you make the death penalty the penalty for raping a child, it removes the paedophiles' incentive to not also kill the child.
	Which I think is not the strongest argument.
	Yeah, that doesn't really convince me at all.
	No.
	So don't you know they'll try and get rid of the evidence?
	It's like they're a criminal.
	They...
	Yeah.
	They're a given, usually.
	It does seem flimsy to me, too.
	Well, it's just the argument of like, well, if we make...
	You know, if we decriminalise murder, there'll be less murders.
	That's what that sounds like to me.
	Yeah, I mean, I think a stronger argument would be, well, the death penalty should be reserved for high crimes such as murder, right?
	As in, if you've taken someone's life, it feels cosmically just to have your own life taken in return, right?
	I'm struck around this.
	I mean, we've had this debate a million times.
	I mean, I would be down for, like, flogging and stuff.
	Yeah, but it's definitely true that, I mean, we've been over the whole life orders.
	I mean, I'm not in any way going to complain if they were like, yeah, so anyone who rapes a child gets hanged.
	Okay, great.
	But, like, they've got an internal logic that they're trying to follow, which is the death penalty is for capital crimes.
	So, okay, you know, this isn't a capital crime, therefore.
	I'm glad we've been able to bring you away from endorsing the bloody code.
	No?
	Just stealing a sheep?
	Look, you didn't need to steal that sheep.
	You won't do it again.
	It wasn't your sheep.
	Anyway, the bloody code was just a product of radical liberal ideology anyway.
	Which is true.
	Anyway, so yeah, Ron DeSantis.
	Vote DeSantis whenever he runs for anything.
	The Young Turks think he's great.
	Move with that to a local man who's been convicted of treason, which is not something that happens every day in this United Kingdom.
	You know what else should get the death penalty, Callum?
	Treason.
	That's right.
	On the books, it should.
	I think legally it technically does, it's just been superseded by other liberal nonsense.
	Yeah, thanks, socialists.
	So we'll go through the story.
	We'll start off just by mentioning the politics of the Crown on Low Seeders, which you can go and check out.
	Just going through the actual role the Crown has in politics.
	Yeah, this is really good, because I didn't know this before.
	People just ignore that and they just think, oh yeah, it's just ceremonial.
	It's like, yeah, not really.
	Come on.
	Like, the ceremonies are not meaningless and everyone knows it.
	Especially the Prime Minister who has to meet with them every week.
	That's normal.
	Not once a year, as like, a ceremony.
	No, once a week, in which the monarch sits down and goes, so what are you up to?
	And just grills them for an hour.
	Well, the monarch is the head of state, so you would think they'd have some input.
	Moving to the next story here, because this is the story itself.
	Man omits treason charge of a queen crossbow threat.
	Average Englishman, I assume his name's John Smith.
	Yeah, but John Smith over here went to Windsor Castle, armed with a crossbow, and told protection officers, I'm here to kill the Queen!
	And they're like, right, she's in Room 17, I mean...
	He has pleaded guilty, out of the charge of treason.
	Just want Sing Child.
	Yeah, Mr.
	Jaswad Singh Chal, from Hampshire, was arrested on Christmas Day 2021, when the late monarch was living at Windsor due to the COVID pandemic.
	At the Old Bailey, earlier, Chal, 21, pleaded guilty to three charges.
	He was the first person in the UK to be convicted of treason since 1981.
	He should be hanged.
	Well, I think there's instructions left in the Treason Act of 1351.
	We'll get to it in a minute.
	Oh, great!
	Bit more extreme than hanging back then.
	Charles from North Badderley, near Southampton, also admitted making threats to kill and in the possession of loaded weapons in the castle.
	He is due to be sentenced to the same court March 31st.
	He was spotted by a Royal Protection Officer in the private section of the castle grounds just after 10 past 8 in the morning on the 25th December 2021.
	Isn't that Christmas?
	That was his Christmas morning.
	So this was the Queen's Christmas morning as well.
	Merry Christmas, Your Majesty.
	We phoned some lunatic to try to kill you outside.
	Well, I mean, I'm guessing this guy doesn't celebrate Christmas.
	Probably not.
	So to him, it's just another day.
	No, his reasoning reveals that as well.
	The officer at the gate leading to the...
	There was an officer at the gate leading to the monarch's private apartments.
	Child who was unemployed at the time, but had worked for the co-op supermarket.
	Don't really know why they had that.
	You know, he once worked on the cop, the bastard.
	It wasn't on his CV. You know, the cop probably trained him to do it as well.
	I worked on the cop, I don't want them thrown into it when I try it.
	Why do you want to work here?
	I need money for the bus fare so I can go kill the queen.
	I mean, I know the cop are communists.
	So, I mean, fair enough.
	But at the same time, I don't feel like they should get a mention.
	I don't feel so bad about it.
	Maybe they're being like, well, he wasn't a completely useless individual.
	He did work with a car once.
	He's generally unemployed otherwise, yeah.
	Had climbed into the grounds using a nylon rope ladder and had already been there for about two hours.
	That seems like an awful lot of time.
	You can see the castle there, but does it take two hours to find the private quarters?
	To be fair, it probably does take two hours.
	Was he crawling?
	Was he aware of where he was supposed to be going?
	He was just wandering around with a crossbow.
	It's like, excuse me, do you know where the Queen's thing is?
	Oh yeah, it's on the seventh floor.
	Oh, bloody hell.
	You'll see how he was dressed in a minute, so I don't know how that conversation went down.
	He was in a hood and mask and was described as, quote, like something out of a vigilante movie.
	The officer took out his taser and asked him, Morning, can I help, mate?
	To which Chai responded, I'm here to kill the Queen.
	Such a British event.
	Oh, cool, blimey, my friend.
	She's right down the hall.
	If we go to the next link, because we can see how he looked at the time on the left there.
	Right, okay.
	That's his uniform for killing the Queen.
	You know?
	Demented, yeah.
	With his mask.
	Homemade slasher mask.
	With a big old hood and hoodie and then his crossbow in hand.
	I can't imagine the imagery of the protection officer stood there with his taser.
	You're right, mate.
	But just, like, this guy must have, like, looked at himself in the mirror just before he left.
	He's like, is this actually a good idea?
	I mean, it sounded like a good idea, like, you know, when I was high or whatever.
	But does this sound like a good idea now?
	Now that I've gone through all the effort to get this crossbow, to make this mask?
	What am I doing?
	Yeah.
	Why am I just...
	We'll see his reasoning in a minute, and I just think to myself, why not just move to India?
	Right, okay, yeah.
	Great question.
	We'll go back to the article.
	The protection officer immediately told Charles to drop his crossbow, get on his knees, and put his hands on his head.
	Charles complied with the instructions.
	Yeah, good point.
	I don't know what I was thinking.
	I'm going to kill the queen, mate.
	Get on the ground.
	Yeah, fair enough.
	You don't shoot the protection officer and carry out your plan.
	Not that we think he should, obviously.
	I've been rumbled.
	Yeah.
	I think that's the weirdness of the anything royal, which is...
	I'm sure you've had this whenever you're visiting the Tower of London or something.
	Oh yeah, I've constantly been in this.
	No, I haven't.
	But you feel compelled to just do as the proper thing is to do in whatever situation it is?
	That's the magic of it.
	I've heard countless stories of people who visit the Queen for various reasons.
	They always feel kind of dumb and they just do what everyone else is doing because you don't know precisely what to do.
	The funniest one is that there was Andy McNabb and his boys after Bravo 2-0.
	They got sent to be given a medal in secret.
	They got sent.
	They were invited to receive...
	I don't think it went like that.
	Anyway, they turned up and the Queen's doing some dinner with, who cares, outside.
	And then she has to be like, oh, sorry, I have an appointment.
	Goes off.
	And in secret, they go there.
	She walks into the room and apparently one guy, the leader, walked forwards, clipped his heels like a member of the SS. That's not a member of the SS, that's what they do in the military.
	Andy McNabb describes this as like, it was very SS-like, and everyone was a bit weirded out by it, gave a bow, moved to the side, and then every other boy did exactly the same thing, just because they didn't really know what to do, followed the man's instructions, and even she was like, this is weird.
	This takes me back.
	Anyway, so after they told him to get his hands on the ground and cuff him, Charles, whilst on the ground, with his hands on his head, said, I'm here to kill the Queen!
	Which, I mean, you've sort of...
	I don't know if this is death by cop.
	The crossbow was found to have been loaded with a bolt, and the safety catch was off, so it was trying badly.
	Charles was also carrying a handwritten note which read, Please don't remove my clothes, shoes and gloves, mask, etc.
	Don't want postmortem.
	Don't want embalming.
	Thank you and I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	Read that again.
	So his note was, Please don't remove my clothes, shoes and gloves, mask, etc.
	Don't want postmortem.
	Don't want embalming.
	Thank you and sorry.
	Thank you.
	Right.
	So did he think, well, we've just got this corpse...
	Well, I mean, I think the plan was to go and kill the Queen, get shot.
	Yeah.
	But I also love how British he is in the description where he's just like, I'm terribly sorry.
	But just, why would he think that they're not going to remove the mask?
	Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask and get shot.
	Yeah, fine.
	Let's say you go in, you kill the Queen, you get shot.
	And they're like, yeah, well, we don't even know who that was.
	Like...
	Not important.
	Obviously they're going to remove the mask, you moron.
	In a video posted on Snapchat, minutes before he entered the castle, so he's TikTok-ing just before he goes to kill the queen over here, Charles said, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry for what I've done and what I will do.
	I will attempt to assassinate Elizabeth, queen of the royal family.
	Why, though?
	This is revenge for those who have died in the 1919 Jallawala Bagh Massacre.
	Right.
	I don't even know about that.
	I'm surprised you don't.
	If you ever listen to Ten Evil Things the British Empire did, it's always number one, because it's the only one.
	Oh, really?
	What happened?
	So, we'll get into it in a minute.
	I won't spoil it yet.
	It is also revenge for all those who have been killed, humiliated, and discriminated on because of their race.
	So, Megan fan.
	So, revenge for racism.
	Revenge for racism and the Jell-O-Wah Bark Massacre.
	I must kill the Queen to avenge racism.
	Yeah.
	I'm thinking mental, mate.
	The BBC write, Thing is, the whole incident is a joke, for people who don't know about it, as in like, it's a meme at this point.
	Because of the aforementioned 10 evil things the British Empire did.
	Number 10, took my sandwich.
	Number 9, were a bit rude.
	Number 8, did colonization or something.
	And then eventually it'll get to the Jell-A-Wa-Barg Massacre.
	Oh yeah, see, we got them now, boys.
	What did they do?
	They shot some people who were innocent.
	They did.
	Okay.
	Got us bang to rights, mulatto.
	Because if you go to the Wikipedia list, the deets are that what happened is that the place was put under curfew and martial law, stay in your homes and we'll come out and shoot you, said the British administration.
	And then a load of locals went, yes, but it is this weird holiday no one's ever heard of in Hinduism.
	Time to go outside.
	So they did, which, you know, understandable, have a nice day.
	But the British were like, no, no, no.
	I gave orders.
	I wasn't joking.
	And shot a bunch of civilians.
	I can't help but notice it says the protesters were surrounded by Gurkha, Balok, Rajput and Sikh troops.
	Yeah, it wasn't white men doing the shooting, but it was, you know, Empire times.
	The thing is, it is bad, and, well, there's two notes on that.
	At the time, even the British Parliament, like Churchill himself, was in Parliament denouncing this.
	The commander who did this was removed, denounced by the Imperial Parliament, if you want, all the way in London, and everyone was very deeply embarrassed by all of this, which is not usually what the Soviets would do.
	No, I mean, it's...
	When a whole 100 people get killed.
	It's one of those crimes that you could only really level against the British, because everyone else was like, yeah, we're dead.
	Yeah, you were pretty upset and apologetic about the killing of a few hundred people once.
	Yeah, you got us.
	Yep.
	Whereas the Japanese in China were like...
	Another 100,000 boys!
	Yeah.
	There's bayonets and little babies.
	And the thing is also, if you type in the, what is it, the Amistar Massacre, I didn't know this until now when I was doing the research, so I was typing it in, and you get, because I heard about this before, you get multiple dates.
	Oh.
	Only one of them is in 1919 under the British.
	We'll go to the next one here.
	We've got 1947, not British.
	Oh, yeah.
	In which 3,000 dead Muslims So that's way more than the one the British did.
	A lot, lot more.
	Who did that during the partition of India?
	You know what's funny is whenever you ask about all the deaths in the partition of India, it's like, yeah, the British did this.
	It's like, are you kidding me?
	Yeah, oh, that's sufferable.
	I hate it.
	It's just like, we all left, you started killing each other, British did this.
	Well, I mean, in a way, for capitulating to the demands for decolonization of India, you could say, you know, in a roundabout way.
	The argument there being that the British are the only ones who can be trusted to run this place.
	Yes.
	Which is a really funny thing for an Indian nationalist to make.
	I've heard it many times from Indian nationalists.
	I just think, bro...
	I mean, cool, but whatever.
	Anyway, there's also in 1984, when the Sith Massacre 3,000 to 17,000 Sikhs.
	Jesus Christ.
	This one's a bit more extreme.
	So a Sikh bodyguard executed the Prime Minister.
	Oh, right.
	It was an assassination.
	Yeah, and then in response, the local population were like, well, time to kill all the Sikhs.
	And then they tried.
	So, there's that.
	Which is just even more hilarious, where it's like the number one list of top ten evil things the British Empire did.
	Twice in the same place.
	There's even worse massacres.
	Estimated number of deaths are about 8,000, 17,000.
	But at least they weren't caused by British-commanded Sikh troops.
	No, it's vigilante killings, because local man kills Sikh, therefore kill all the Sikhs.
	Anyway, back to the article, because a local man committed of treason over here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He wasn't doing any of those things, not for justice for those, no.
	He didn't need revenge on that, yeah.
	No.
	That's what I say, he's never heard of, really.
	Also in the video, and apparently referencing the Star Wars film, Chal also boasted, I am an Indian Sikh, a Sith.
	My name was Jawad Singh Chal.
	My name is Darth Jones.
	I think he's also retarded.
	Get off the internet, you idiot.
	Darth Jones is here to take revenge for the 1919 massacre by the British, which Queen Elizabeth did.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, bro.
	It was also alleged that Charles had previously tried to get close to the royals by applying to join the Ministry of Defence Police and Grenadier Guards.
	He actually signed up.
	He was like, please give job.
	Totally won't kill Queen.
	Trust me, bro.
	Won't happen.
	Police said Charles' actions were not treated as terrorism offences, but the counter-terrorism division was deemed the appropriate team.
	We're not going to treat this as terrorism because the man is clearly autistic and incompetent.
	But they did decide that the counter-terrorism division were the ones to deal with it, but it's not terrorism.
	Sure, but I mean, it is kind of embarrassing to call this terrorism.
	Yeah, it's like, we're going to have the counter-terrorism unit do it, but you're the worst one this week.
	yeah you are terrible you is right that you apologize because this is a sorry state of affairs under the 1842 terrorism act as an offense to assault the Queen or have to firearm or offensive weapon even within her presence with intent to injure or alarm her or to cause breach breach of the peace which I I love that running about in the Victorian era.
	If you alarm the Queen, death.
	The last person to be convicted under a separate and more serious 1351 treason act was William Joyce, also known as Lord Hugh Hugh.
	Ho-ho.
	Ho-ho, sorry.
	And we'll get to the punishment for treason, because a whole bunch of articles have been written in response to this news breaking that this guy has been tried.
	But it's just like, what is the appropriate punishment?
	The entire British press is just having umming and erring sessions about what should we do?
	Because of course, everyone in the press is apparently some kind of Lib Dem socialist.
	Of course they are.
	Where they're like, I don't believe in the death penalty.
	Of course they are.
	But all of us do have an ingrained feeling of anyone who harms a monarch must die.
	And, um, well...
	The Evening Standard over here started doing some reading.
	first the traitor would be tied up and drawn across a rough ground by a horse that's the drawn part yep he would then be hanged within an inch of his life so he wouldn't quite die Finally, whilst stunned, he would be emasculated?
	Yep.
	Disembowelled.
	Some say this is where the word drawn comes in, as your organs were drawn from your body.
	And your organs would be burned in front of you, one by one, whilst still alive.
	The unfortunate soul would then be beheaded, and the head would be cut into four sections.
	These sections would be preserved in brine and spices.
	Don't want them smelling bad.
	The head part.
	What are you doing with them decomposing?
	Oh, the spices!
	The brines for the deacon.
	It's just like, well, I love the scent of the head.
	And then the king would decide where to display them.
	If the traitor was a woman, however, she would be burned at the stake instead and being hanged and drawn and quartered was considered too indecent for women.
	True.
	I suppose it is, yeah.
	The public would watch the spectacle sometimes and throw rotten food at the suspect.
	I love the idea of applying, like, scientific modern policing language to the circumstance.
	The suspect was then ripped apart.
	The heads would often be displayed in prominent places, such as the spike at the Tower of London, for example, as a warning to everyone who committed high treason.
	And then the evening stand at sort of right with a slum butt.
	Ugh.
	The Treason Act is still in force, but has been superseded by the Crime and Disorder Act of 1998.
	Oh yeah.
	What's Tony Blair's Crime and Disorder Act, I have to say.
	The penalty is now life imprisonment.
	I mean, it doesn't have to be 14th century justice.
	It could be lethal injection.
	I don't agree.
	I'm happy to concede that maybe chopping him up and spreading his remains around the country is a bit too much for modern sensitivities.
	I'm happy to concede that.
	It's not too much for justice.
	It's not too much for what?
	A treason...
	Fair.
	Enjoyer deserves.
	Fair.
	Yeah, I agree.
	But moving to the sense of justice, there have been many a debate about justice.
	I thought I'd just employ this debate about justice from Somalia.
	Right, okay.
	Which is pretty based.
	We'll click on the left one here.
	We'll have a debate, shall we?
	Which form of justice would you rather live under?
	Somalian justice or American justice?
	Well, news from Somalia.
	Two men who gang-raped and killed a 12-year-old girl in Somalia are publicly executed by firing squad, chosen by the girl's father, who inspected the bodies to make sure they were dead.
	So, two men, rape child.
	We grab the man of the...
	Murdered child.
	And say, hang about, would you like to watch the shooting?
	And then you can inspect the bodies just to make sure.
	And also you get to pick the shooters.
	The families of the victim are often there to watch the execution.
	Do you get to pick the shooter?
	They don't get to pick the shooter because they don't use firing squads.
	Because the Americans are...
	Backwards nation.
	Whereas Somalia, literally Wakanda.
	And then we move to the United States, where their justice is being taken place.
	Mohamed Bakri Shay, 20, of Rochester, was convicted of raping two girls aged approximately four and eight years old when the abuses began.
	Charges say these sexual assaults occurred multiple times, and he's been sentenced to 180 days in a local jail.
	180 days.
	I'm just saying, Somalia is not as bad as people think it is.
	They seem to have a few things more right than others.
	It's not even half a year.
	I'm sure Mr.
	Shea over here, Mohamed Bakri Shea, is as American as they come.
	Anyway, that's that.
	Which is just a lovely story about a man who's been convicted of treason, will be serving the rest of his life behind bars.
	But it is a shame, and every British subject is sighing when they learn, what do you mean it doesn't carry the death penalty anymore?
	Well, it's disgusting.
	Pain in the arse.
	Anyway...
	Let's get the video comments.
	Recently on an episode of Timcast IRL, Tim and Ian joked about creating a tabletop game that can be played at these new culture coffee shops that they are building.
	This is a direct answer to the call for someone to develop such a game.
	With your help and support, we can secure our foothold in the culture war.
	Timcast, the Ripiverse, and the Lotus Eaters have shown us the way.
	Do we have the depth and the fortitude to join the fight?
	So help us out as we reach out to Timcast, trying to make this thing a reality.
	Were those all AI generated images?
	I don't know.
	They're incredible.
	What was the game, though?
	I don't know, I didn't...
	I don't know how the game's played or what it does.
	But it looks great.
	Alright.
	Let's just think of Stellaris the whole thing.
	The next one.
	I believe it was Tolkien who put forward the opinion that through the act of creation we are ourselves mimicking God, and in such mimicry we can come to know him.
	However, I highly doubt the Silicon Valley chuckleheads have such a lofty idea in mind, especially when it comes to this AI silliness.
	Do you think the first proper robot that's...
	Are you God, if you do that?
	Well, I mean, you're showing creative power, but God is intrinsic throughout the entire universe, and every part in it, according to Christian theology.
	So, no.
	You aren't God.
	That's just Christian cope.
	Don't mind that.
	No.
	I think the first man to literally make my robot thing is probably God.
	Well, we'll cover that on the Cyberpunk dystopia on Thursday.
	He is a God.
	He's probably one that should be stopped.
	Immediately.
	What I find interesting is why do humans constantly want to make robots that look like humans?
	What's the desire for that?
	Robot doggos are pretty good.
	Sure, but like, you know, as you say there, there's a little person robot.
	So why?
	Why not just a box with like tendrils or something?
	I mean, we've done the tentacle with a knife thing.
	Have you seen that?
	Yeah.
	I don't know why.
	Why do we need this?
	Yeah, but that's my point.
	Yeah, build a dog.
	Yeah, okay, but...
	You don't need a son.
	No, no, no, no.
	It wasn't even a dog, because it was just a four-legged robot, right?
	You're sort of anthropomorphizing into a dog.
	No, I'm thinking of the little toy everyone got as a kid that you feed a little bone, and if you don't, it dies.
	Do you remember?
	No.
	It was a craze in the 2000s.
	I wasn't a kid in the 2000s.
	Well, you still probably saw them.
	Basically, they're little dogs, and you've got to feed them a little magnet bone.
	And if you don't, the dog literally just dies and you can't bring it back.
	Right, okay.
	It was just to teach all the kids of the era, just like, take care of your dog.
	You didn't?
	Eh, dead dog.
	That sounds awful.
	That was great.
	Sounds harrowing.
	Like Tamagotchis.
	Yeah.
	But I just don't understand why we want to build, like, human-like robots.
	Anyway.
	Also, robot dogs actually make sense, because the one fault of a dog is it's your best friend, maybe your kid grows up with it or whatever, you know, your kid gets to 12, a dog dies!
	Your 12-year-old loses its best friend right in front of it, that's not fun.
	You were talking about life lessons, that's a life lesson.
	I mean, yeah, there's that.
	But if you wanted to improve the dog, I mean, immortality, I think, is the one way of improving the man's best friend ever there.
	Yeah, but then you can get sad stories where, like, this robot dog has been next to his master's grave for 10,000 years.
	That's kind of epic.
	That's not sad.
	I think...
	That's sad.
	Yeah, I mean, we are going to have to take the mobot dogs to the farm in the sky at some point.
	The robot dogs.
	EMP pulse them or something.
	Put them out of the nursery without pain.
	Just do reset.
	Give it to a new kid.
	I guess, yeah.
	Oh, God, is that worse?
	No, that is way worse.
	That's horrible.
	I think you've got to properly kill the dog.
	I'd rather the dog be at the master's grave for 10,000 years.
	The thing is, like, does the AI dog think it is a dog?
	Like the AI for it?
	Is it dog AI? We're not having self-aware AI ever.
	I think we've established that has to die.
	So I think it's...
	So it has to genuinely, authentically believe it's a dog?
	Just made a mess?
	No, I don't think it's allowed to...
	I think it just has to mimic it in every way possible.
	Yeah, but that feels really hollow now.
	There's no sentiment and romance to the dog sitting in his master's grave for 10,000 years.
	It still has memory.
	Yeah, but if the robot sincerely thinks that it's a dog, then, you know, okay, now it's emotional, right?
	But if it's not, and it's just something that knows it's not a dog, but is programmed to act like a dog...
	That hollers it out completely.
	Have you seen the dog with the buttons?
	No.
	I think I showed you this a while, but I don't know if you've forgotten.
	But there's this dog, you can find it on YouTube, guys.
	You look up, like, dog with buttons or whatever, right?
	It's called Sunny.
	And this, I don't know if she's got a husband, but she's taught this dog to hit the buttons.
	And it started off with, like, hungry, hungry, like, outside.
	And it's five buttons, so of course it's got...
	It's got like 70 now.
	Ridiculous.
	And it gets them all.
	And it started getting like...
	Philosophical debate about God.
	No, it started happening.
	It'll do the stuff and it'll be like, why am I? What?
	It's just like, I don't know how to answer you, bunny.
	Oh no, there's an easy answer to that.
	And then it'll just go look in the mirror and stare at itself.
	And it'll come back and just hit help.
	No, there's an easy answer to anything that's suffering some sort of existential crisis.
	The answer is always because we love you.
	I don't know if Bunny's going to accept that answer at this point.
	Bunny's clearly learning.
	Yeah, but because we love you, that's a good answer.
	Because then the dog can just be like, well, at least it's not bad.
	But to be fair, my point is, if you look at the dog, there's something about dogs that seems to be getting higher once you start introducing the buttons.
	Isn't this a Family Guy episode?
	Those are Rick and Morty episodes.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, Rick and Morty, they give it, like, super brain.
	Yeah.
	But this is real.
	Like, you just give it the buttons and it's really happy.
	It's like, I can communicate, you know, I can ask for food, I can go outside.
	And then the dog seemingly, like, looking at it, does seem to be getting more and more depressed every episode she uploads.
	Dog is nihilistic.
	I don't know how it's going to end.
	Some people say they've seen it with the cats too, yeah.
	The cats are crap though.
	Because they're really just food.
	Good food.
	There's no existential crisis, so it's not worth watching.
	If I can't give my pet an existential crisis, this is terrible.
	Let's go to the next one.
	One thing you should always look out for when it comes to gym for it's perfect makeup.
	I tell you, if you are actually sweating and wearing makeup, that makeup will melt off your face.
	I don't even have my eyebrows painted on because I'm actually here to work out in my old, old festival t-shirt.
	Thank you, Harry.
	So yeah, never trust a woman in the gym who is wearing Perfect for make-up.
	Great point.
	Very well done.
	Have a nice one.
	With food costs increasing and food production falling, I wanted to give credit to Sticks' Hexenhammer 666.
	In the COVID buildup, he said to get a store of food and supplies.
	Be wrong and feel silly and eat off the stores for a little while, or be right and be thankful.
	I took his advice and had food and supplies for almost three months before needing to go to the store.
	Again, he foresaw the global food supply disruption coming.
	I still suggest getting some food stores, and tomorrow I'll show you how I took Sticks' advice and came out ahead.
	Good.
	I did the same, actually.
	I've got loads of pasta and stuff in the cupboards.
	I'm going to have to break my keto diet when we start starving.
	Yeah, I think being too fat is not really your concern.
	There's no food.
	Weight gain during the famine, I mean.
	I'm going to justify myself.
	Can you cook canned tuna?
	Is that a good idea?
	Can you cook canned tuna?
	Yeah, because it's already cooked, right?
	Yeah, we can cook it if you want.
	Why don't you just...
	I've been eating canned tuna all my life, and as he was saying that, I was like, why don't I try that?
	Well, you could if you wanted.
	It's not to make it edible.
	It's already edible.
	Yeah, if you wanted to fry it in an omelette or something.
	I'm a moron.
	I've never done that.
	Sounds pretty good now.
	I'm going to have a pretty good time tonight frying my can tune.
	I'm not even going to have a tuna omelette tonight.
	It sucks to be you.
	It's going to ruin comments.
	Oh, right, yeah.
	Good point.
	Daydreaming about tuna.
	I was, actually.
	I was like, oh, okay.
	Because I've got, like, two different kinds of cheese in the fridge as well.
	What have you got in your house for, like, you know, death?
	What?
	You know, cans of goods and all that.
	You just got pasta?
	Oh, no, no.
	We've got, like, you know, cans of stuff.
	Loads of, like, stuff that'll last.
	I don't know.
	My wife would know.
	I got beans, tuna, and the insides of pies.
	Insides of pies.
	I don't know what it's called.
	What, pie filling?
	Yeah.
	Right, right.
	Should have got some, what are those canned pies that you get?
	Can you buy canned pie?
	Oh, they're so good.
	They're so good.
	With the pastry?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's got the pastry in it, right?
	And basically, you just take the top of the Freybentos.
	Freybentos pies, they're really good.
	They're so unbelievably unhealthy for you, but they taste great, and that's why.
	But when I was in my 20s, I was smoking weed and stuff.
	I'd just go to the local shop, get one of these Freybentos pies, put it in the oven for like an hour or however long it takes.
	How much are they?
	They're like three quid or something like that.
	They're super cheap.
	And they're really good.
	Filled with gravy.
	Really good.
	I'm shopping after this.
	Yeah, no, honestly.
	I'm not even joking when I endorse them.
	Not sponsored, unfortunately.
	Frey Bantos though, if you...
	Lord Nerevar says...
	You could view the modern trans movement as the newest offensive and invasion that's been all but unstoppable so far.
	It's the battleground on which we are fighting now, and time and again yet seems to have stalled.
	There's a battle they just can't win anymore, especially in the UK, Turf Island.
	Let's make sure that once we've battered this one down, we can utilise momentum to take back lost ground.
	The tide is most definitely turning now.
	Yeah, I mean, you saw Rishi Sunak being interviewed by Piers Morgan.
	It's like, what is a woman?
	That's easy.
	An adult human female.
	Ha ha!
	Yeah, it's really irritating to see the people you can't stand finally get the most basic things.
	Yeah.
	Because there's something about it that also just makes you upset.
	You kind of want to go further just to get away from them.
	I kind of want a Rishi Sunak to come out as woke, to be honest.
	I don't like Rishi.
	Anyway, S.H. Silver says, good, the Terps won.
	Now back to hating feminism for ruining Western masculinity.
	Yes, good point.
	But no, in fact, that's actually what's quite good about Matt Walsh, poking at Posey Parker like that.
	It's, oh yeah, your stay-at-home husband.
	She's like, I don't have a stay-at-home husband, because that would be bad, right?
	Yeah.
	It'd be bad to have a stay-at-home husband.
	That's a good point, Posey.
	Great point.
	Did you see the viral TikTok this morning about a stay-at-home husband?
	No.
	There's a day in the life of a stay-at-home husband.
	It's all beyond meat, of course it is.
	More than dinners and everything.
	Yeah.
	Very crunch.
	No fray burnt-off pies.
	But it's this guy with a man bun, drinking stupid drinks, all fake meat.
	The woman's really fat as well.
	Yeah, I just assumed that he was like a feeder.
	It might be.
	Yeah, because that's what it came across as to me.
	Because, like, he's really skinny, she's really fat, and he's, like, making loads of food.
	But he's not feeding her meat.
	Like, he's feeding her fake meat as well.
	Sure, you can get saturated fats in fake meat.
	Can you get fat off that, though?
	I don't know.
	Seed oils, probably.
	You know, look what it's done to her.
	But anyway, gave something to Frey Ventos love.
	This was a happy woman before.
	Baron von Warhawk says, How many legs does a dog have?
	And if you can call his tail a leg, four.
	Saying that a tail is a leg doesn't make it a leg.
	Abraham Lincoln.
	Dogs don't necessarily have four legs.
	Good turf point by Abraham Lincoln.
	Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.
	Yeah, that's true.
	But I just, you know, like my mum's got a tripod.
	Dog with three legs.
	Yeah.
	But that's not naturally how dogs are supposed to be.
	Well, it's if you cut off the leg.
	Yeah, but that's not natural.
	Matthew says, this isn't a victory for common sense, it's a victory for radical feminism.
	All that trans activists have done is reassert the notion that masculinity is bad.
	Yeah, there is, this is the thing about Graham Leinen, where he's like, oh, the trans activists are a men's rights movement.
	It's like, dude, come on.
	This has nothing to do with, like, the men's rights activists.
	It is, but it's nothing to do with the old group.
	No.
	Like, the people who are sane.
	I mean, it is, yeah, exactly.
	This is, like, butchering the idea of...
	The people who are like, perhaps, maybe men shouldn't be ruined by divorce courts.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're just like a trans rights activist.
	Screeching that you want to go...
	You want an equal settlement divorce?
	You want to go to my bathroom, don't you?
	Yeah, exactly.
	No.
	I knew you'd chopped off your dick.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	They're not, they're not, yeah.
	So, you know, they are, people are right to say, look.
	Well, there was a synergy.
	We mentioned it the other day.
	There was a guy, I think he was in, I'm trying to get this right, I think he was in Columbia.
	He is going through a particularly crap divorce.
	He knows that the divorce courts are stacked against him.
	Oh, so he transitioned, yeah.
	Officially, he came to all the press and said, I'm a woman.
	It was all obviously a publicity stunt, but it worked, because then there was a whole debate about, well, now what?
	Well, he's a woman.
	What are you going to do?
	He needs to be given preferential treatment.
	I don't know if he got the kids in the end.
	Let's hope he did.
	Anyway, but these folks are right.
	The TERFs aren't conservative allies, shall we say.
	It's just that...
	I mean...
	They kind of are, though.
	Yeah, but there's something really funny.
	You mentioned about the whole gender roles, feminism stuff, right?
	And that's true of the old movement, as you remember it.
	But the new modern TERFs, there's the occasional crazy thing that will come out of them.
	But...
	They're about to start talking about how men and women are the same and how women can do men's things and men can do women's things.
	Because as they're arguing with the trans rights activists that men and women are different, they keep running into the obviously cultural stuff as well.
	And you'll notice that all of them in their age are not about to start saying that you can do anything you want, love.
	Until the TERFs are coming out and demanding that men need to stay out of women's spaces, such as kitchens, I don't trust them.
	Yeah, vice versa.
	But, I mean, on the point of what a woman is, definitionally, they're correct because of the common English definition of what a woman is.
	Yeah, but they're not really.
	I mean, this is why you wrote that article, because I saw...
	What's that guy from The Daily Wire?
	The nice one.
	Michael Knowles?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I forgot his name.
	Anyway, he was doing a thing recently, he was like, oh, the leftists came up with this idea that your sex isn't the only thing that defines you, which is true.
	And then they went with that to a whole weird place.
	And now the right's doing this thing where it's like, oh, your sex is entirely what defines you, like your genitals are entirely what defines you as a man or a woman.
	And he sat there smoking a cigar in his ears and just being like, well, that's not really real either, is it?
	No.
	This is the point I did make in that article.
	It's sort of reductionism.
	I mean, it's useful to win the war against the trans, right?
	Because their argument is, well, there's no such thing as a woman, basically.
	Formless, timeless, Cthulhu-esque space monsters.
	So, yeah, or adult human female is a basic definition, which it is a basic definition.
	But it's basic.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But there is a lot more stacked on top of that.
	And eventually, we need the TERFs to be like, look, men need to stay out of the kitchens, or...
	They're basically just feminists again.
	So you wanted them to turn back into suffragettes?
	Because that's the thing about the suffragettes is they definitely...
	Were they like men out of the kitchens, were they?
	Yeah, they were like, you know, women should have the right to vote, but you present them with a trans rights activist or a I want to, you know, become blah blah blah.
	They'd look at you funny and be like...
	Where's your man?
	SA Silver again says, freedom of the individual to make a fool of themselves and remove themselves from the gene pool is a fine thing, so long as they don't have the freedom to impose that on everyone else and drag others down with them.
	I don't know.
	I'm slightly more sceptical about this freedom to be a bad example thing.
	I don't know if we don't have any things to look to and say not that.
	Wouldn't that be good?
	Well, you kind of need that.
	It instructs you.
	I suppose.
	I suppose.
	Miles says, the lack of breast apparently means you're a man now.
	Has anyone told Emma Watson this?
	That's a bit mean.
	I don't like Emma Watson, obviously, you know, but...
	How big are they?
	She is looking rough these days as well.
	George says, If the Turfs win, we'll have to deal with the regular misandrists and the White Knight simps yet again.
	This fight needs to be prolonged as much as possible until mutually assured destruction is assured.
	Um...
	I don't know.
	To be honest with you, I kind of would like to go back to just the man-hating feminists.
	In fact, it feels like it'd be a progression, right?
	Because when they're like, well, men and masculinity are bad, we can make the argument that actually men and masculinity are good.
	At the moment, they're making the argument that women exist.
	It's like, yes...
	The only group I've seen making the argument that masculinity is bad, though, sincerely, is in, like, Andrew Tate shorts, the stupid 20-year-old women he's hanging around.
	Sure, but, like, 10 years ago, feminists used to be making this argument all the time, right?
	And I, now...
	Yeah, I just don't see them, is my point.
	Oh, no, they've been completely subsumed into intersectionality.
	But now, if we were to have to have the argument about what's good about men and manliness, I think that actually we could formulate a better argument than we did then.
	Because we weren't really prepared for it.
	But I think we're prepared for it now.
	It's demonstrable now.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's just demonstrable.
	So actually, I think that's an argument we can win.
	And bring sympathetic women away from the turfs to say, yeah, no, actually I would like a man.
	As Jordan Pearson points out, what do you want to marry, ladies?
	Yeah.
	So I think that's actually a winnable argument for us.
	I just love the whole, like, I don't need a man, I pay my gas bill.
	I think there's an argument we can win.
	So actually, I'm not with you on this one, George.
	Let's get back to the regular misandrist.
	Because the thing is, one of the things about the white feminists, as they call them, the non-intersexual feminists, is that their position was genuinely, like, looking back on it now, it was a really pathetic position.
	Men are bad.
	Alright.
	You've got a problem with your dad.
	Got it.
	It's so easy to dismantle now.
	So anyway.
	I'd be happy to go back to it.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's more just complaining that men are stronger than them.
	Yeah.
	Because that's the whole debate is like, well, some men are rapists and whatnot.
	And yeah, like the proportion and yeah, basically all of the people who are very, very violent are all men.
	And that's obviously true.
	Yeah.
	But that's just you complaining.
	Yeah.
	It reminds me very much of like the soy boys.
	Yeah.
	Because they're the ones saying the same thing.
	It's like all the men are rapists and all of the murderers and blah, blah, blah.
	You're just weak.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but I mean, what I'm saying is we can validate masculinity with the argument with the TERFs, whereas the argument with the intersectionals obliterates masculinity and femininity.
	And I don't really want these things to be obliterated.
	So anyway, Thomas says, Incidentally, every time someone punts the rainbow, I'm going to point out to them that I'm more than happy for them to use the Christian symbol for God's eternal mercy on a sinful humanity and will praise that they come to Christ.
	Amen.
	That's not what the rainbow was, though.
	The rainbow was a sign of the covenant between the Israelites and God that God wouldn't exterminate the Israelites again, as I recall.
	I might be wrong on that.
	Fact check me on that.
	I love the old God.
	Yeah, oh yeah, the God of the Old Testament.
	Alright, this sub, I won't kill you.
	Oh yeah.
	This generation were too slow to get to the promised land, so I'm just going to kill them all in the desert.
	Because I'm a loving God.
	Don't cross me.
	Okay, Adolf.
	Hey, I'm not the one who wrote the Old Testament.
	You know, there is a faction of the Nazis that thought like that.
	Called the Spartacists.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So the idea is that you've got the perfect German race at the end of the war, right?
	But then, of course, some Germans are better than other Germans.
	So then we have to selectively breed the Germans to get the ultimate German.
	So you're going to have to genocide a lot of Germans.
	The avatar of German-ness.
	Yeah.
	Christian says, half of those in Disneyland in catsuits are probably pedos as well.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	That's a great point.
	Yeah, I agree.
	John says, It's rare, but I've got to disagree with Carl on the death penalty.
	Even if your motivation is solely inflicting the harshest punishment on the guilty, I think dying of old age in jail after however many years is a far more severe punishment than just killing them quickly.
	Yeah, but I have to pay for that.
	As Ignacio pointed out, no, no, that's my taxes.
	I'm concerned about my taxes.
	But executions cost so much money, I'll do it for free.
	Yeah, bullets aren't actually that expensive.
	But also, you could say it seems like a harsh punishment.
	But, actually I think people are probably acclimatised to that.
	Do you get the stories of like the career criminals who spent like 50 years in jail, get let out, and they're like, can I just go back to jail please?
	Like why?
	Because you're used to that.
	It's your normal life.
	So it doesn't feel like a living hell.
	The whole West is soft.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is the thing I told you.
	They're in a Norwegian prison or something.
	You remember when I came back and I told you, I showed you some footage, there were some women who had been stealing in Afghanistan, so the Taliban took them out and whipped them and then moved them on, and there's all these liberals in the comments being like, oh my god, so bad.
	I'm like, what?
	Shouldn't have been stealing.
	Yeah.
	But it didn't hurt them.
	Justice served.
	I think whipping probably did hurt them.
	No, you could see it.
	It was uncomfortable, but then they got up, men held their hands, took them away.
	That was done.
	Nothing more.
	They're completely forgiven.
	Moving on.
	Fair enough.
	But aside from that, after watching the unethical and entirely political prosecution of Rittenhouse, and realising it's some kind of case where prosecution would have death penalty, well, I don't want to live in a world where someone like Rittenhouse could be facing death or defending himself.
	Well, he was exonerated, so he's not.
	It didn't do anything wrong.
	I mean, you're in America, you have...
	I think you're in America, anyway.
	If you're not in America, okay, fine.
	But in America, they already have the death penalty.
	So, like, Rittenhouse already kind of lives under that sort of Damocles.
	Someone online says, the left is butthurt that Florida man wants to kill criminals and not innocent babies.
	Yeah, that actually is the sum total of our objections.
	Do you know who deserves to die?
	Do you know who deserves to die?
	People who literally, definitionally can't have done anything wrong.
	That's who needs to die, say the leftist.
	Those people who murdered someone?
	No, they don't need to die.
	Think of the civil rights of the murderers.
	That said, I don't trust the state to kill people.
	Well, you do, though.
	That's the thing.
	You're not saying, well, the army needs to be disbanded.
	Peter Hitchens convinced me on this, because we already have the death penalty if you believe that SWAT teams exist.
	Screw the army, don't have to get into that.
	If you believe that the SWAT team should respond with deadly force to a deadly threat, then yes, you believe in the death penalty.
	And we obviously all do.
	What you're saying is, like, after the fact, they shouldn't be able to do it.
	And saying the state implies that you think the government are going to do it.
	The government actually doesn't hand out death sentences.
	What do you mean?
	Well, it's the judiciary that does that.
	Okay.
	It's not like Rishi Sunak is like, yeah, so I think we should kill that guy.
	I mean, very, very rarely.
	Well, not in the UK it wouldn't happen, but in some countries.
	Sure.
	Yeah, okay, in Zimbabwe it probably is.
	Yeah, well, the line between the judiciary and the government isn't there.
	It's true.
	Sure, but I'm not legislating for barbaric societies.
	Yeah, I think we've got more important things to legislate in North Korea than...
	How independent is the judiciary?
	So yeah, this...
	I don't agree with the...
	The state shouldn't have the power to kill people.
	No, actually it should have the power.
	It's not a should or shouldn't, it does.
	All of them do.
	And everyone...
	Every state ever will.
	Otherwise you don't have a state, it won't last.
	But also we have an institution that is purely about administering the law.
	Let it do its work.
	And, in America, it's about unanimous jury consent.
	So the jury, it's not even the state doing it.
	The state is just carrying out the act.
	It's the jury that decides who gets the death penalty.
	Which is, it feels like the right way to do it to me.
	And people get around, oh, nonce.
	Charlie says, regarding DeSantis, I love how TYT claimed DeSantis and Trump tried to enrich themselves from convicts.
	Kamala Harris is looking very nervous about now.
	Yeah, it's just remarkable how, like, oh, they tried to enrich themselves in office.
	Got nothing to say about Pelosi, then.
	Of all the targets, like Donald Trump tried to enrich himself.
	Yeah, no, he didn't.
	It's worse than you thought, actually.
	Oh, is it?
	It's $700 million he lost.
	Jesus.
	In four years.
	Uh...
	Alfred of the Base says, there is a moral justification for extinguishing a murderer.
	The problem is delegating that ultimate authority to the state.
	Again, we delegate all of this to the state, and it's chosen by the jury.
	And don't get me wrong, he says, in which our current civilization means delegating more authority to an insane flailing monster that doesn't even understand what a woman is.
	Yeah, I agree that the government is mental, but we already do this.
	And while I appreciate the objection, We're leaving too many murderers unhanked.
	There's just too many murderers in the prisons that we're paying for out of our taxes.
	Definitely did it.
	Like, the prime example that I always use is the murderer of Lee Rigby.
	Those two...
	Yeah.
	I can't pronounce their names.
	These are the ones we give the whole life orders.
	Michael Abelago and the other one.
	Yeah, I can't remember the name.
	No one ever forgets a second.
	They're literally on video holding the bloody weapons being like, yeah, so we killed him in the name of Islam because you guys are bombing Pakistan or something.
	And it's like, right.
	So everyone saw you do it.
	The DNA evidence all proves you did it.
	You're literally on film, saying why you did it.
	There's no chance it could have been anywhere else.
	So the argument that, like, you know, oh, we might get the wrong guy.
	No, we definitely haven't got the wrong guy.
	I think...
	Angel Brain says, I disagree.
	I think that modern technology has made this possible.
	There are many criminals that the chances of rehabilitation are basically null.
	They will never be safe to release.
	Some of the individuals in our prison system can never be released.
	They will never be safe in public, but our sentencing system has limits on the time handed to the convict.
	We already have a way around this without reintroducing capital punishment, the indefinite sentence.
	Which we may as well just introduce capital punishment then.
	Anyway, Brandon says, Abortion, sterilization, violent crime, and human environmental policies, elder abuse, euthanasia.
	Yeah, it's the right that wants to kill people.
	Good point, actually.
	Good point.
	We're out of time, but there is one thing in here I did want to mention, which is someone saying that I'm right because a bit of barbarism keeps the actual barbarians far away from you.
	This is one of the things I actually despise about coming back here, is that there's no understanding of actual violence and what it means and why it's useful and blah blah blah.
	The things that Romans would get in any other civilization until they become way too comfortable, and that's one of the problems with this place.
	Displays of strength keep barbarians in check.
	But it also reminds the population that these things matter, and your silly ideological hoo-hahs Don't have any relevance and you grow up and there are so many parts of our population that don't have that in their heads.
	Yeah.
	And then when they see something that's even...
	Take the Lib Dems' response to the Michael Abelagio killing or whatever, right?
	What was their response?
	Well, their response is essentially like, meh.
	Like, oh, it's terrible.
	How could things happen like that?
	What do you mean, how could things happen like that?
	Like, why are you so disassociated from people going out and killing for ideology that you don't know how to respond?
	You shouldn't know exactly.
	There should be something you get and understand.
	And it should be an example to the rest.
	If you do something like this, we're going to hang you.
	Everyone's going to see you hanged.
	But instead, even in all of our media, we completely scrub it, move on to the next story, don't worry about it.
	No, I can't stand it.
	Crap.
	Crap thing about the West.
	Anyway, we're out of time.
	If you want more from us, go over to bloodseas.com at 3.30, where there'll be a live hangout.

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