Welcome to the podcast of the Low Seaters for the 8th of December 2022.
I'm joined by Martin Dordney.
Absolute pleasure.
And we are going to be talking about how smartphones are dangerous for children.
I honestly, I'm not even going to get started yet.
How a woke Chicago school is promoting sex toys for children.
And how the Labour Party is plotting to destroy the United Kingdom.
So, small, unimportant stories.
Indeed.
I thought we'd get to.
Anyway, let's go on about it.
So, I, as a father, have come to the conclusion that smartphones are dangerous to children, and rather infamously now, I don't let my children have smartphones, because I just don't think it's good for them.
How old are your kids?
13, 7 and 2.
Yeah, so I've got a 13 and an 8, and they don't have smartphones.
They're allowed to use them if I'm there, but that's it.
But they don't just sit on their smartphone all day in their room, in the dark, going through God knows whatever.
No, they're allowed to have them, and they stay on the side, being charged, where we can see them, and actually, that common sense approach seems to work.
It's a much, much more...
I mean, I'm more tyrannical than you are, though.
Right.
They don't even have them.
You know, they don't even get them with me.
But this is, I think, an issue whose time has come, because a lot of people are very concerned about this.
But anyway, before we first get into it, if you want to support us, go to thelosities.com, sign up for five for a month, and go check out this Deep Think by Thomas Dowling on why feminists won't talk about OnlyFans.
OnlyFans being a social media app, as it were, that is also a thing of great concern, I would suggest.
And of course, feminists and generally the commentary act don't want to touch any of this.
But this issue was raised recently by Kate Winslet, which I think is a very good thing for her to have done.
She's concerned about social media use, and of course social media primarily being done through smartphones kind of ties the two issues together.
She thinks that the government should make social media firms enforce age limits to tackle the impact on children's mental health.
What do you reckon?
Well, I mean, it's virtually impossible to do.
So, in a previous life, I edited a TV show called Porn on the Brain for Channel 4.
And we looked at porn addiction ostensibly in young lads.
Now, at the time, the kind of social script was porn.
It's toxifying men.
It's making them sort of sex zombies and rapists in waiting.
And actually what we did, we did a brain scan study at Cambridge University with 21 young lads who were using tons and tons of porn.
I mean like 19 times a day they were doing it.
Hardcore.
What we found was something far more interesting, and that was they were just addicted to the cycle of porn, that dopamine cycle, that instant hit.
There's no better way to get that than via the orgasm.
But the medium was the phone.
And I think what's happening now...
It's that young lads were the early adopters, and then came Instagram, then came the constant pressure on young women.
And that's why I think Kate Winslet is right to say this is a huge problem.
It is a huge problem.
And there are other problems rather than just addiction as well, which we'll get into in a minute.
But in fact, let's begin there.
Smartphones are addictive, as psychology today tell us.
Essentially, they're triggering the sort of survival mechanism of our brain constantly by releasing dopamine and oxytocin constantly.
Normally, you'd get these things from a great success in a hunt or evading a predator or something like that.
But instead, now you've got a constant flooding of these chemicals into your brain because your phone can give you a release of them.
Yeah, and actually Facebook know this.
Yes.
And they have known it for years.
I mean, back in, again, a previous life when I was on Sky News in the paper reviews years ago, this would often come up.
And their own studies show they know.
And actually, they like that.
They pretend they don't.
A bit like, you know, gambling sites say, just be careful.
When the fun stops, stop.
They don't mean that.
They're business modelers entirely incentivized around making sure that people stay on their site or on their app as much as possible in order to increase ad revenue share.
And all of those dopamine highs existed before smartphones, like gambling.
Or porn, or whatever it may be, or cocaine, or booze, have now been channeled towards the smartphones.
We have this perfect storm, I think, of addiction, and it's a real thing.
Yeah, and the smartphone presents extra aspects of issue with it as well.
Because, I mean, with things like gambling, at least you can go broke.
You can't gamble anymore.
With cocaine, at least you can run out or have, you know...
A sort of physical revulsion to it eventually, when it's making you sick or something like that.
But the problem with the smartphone is it doesn't have any calories, it doesn't cost you any extra money.
It's just always there and always on, and you're always scrolling.
And it manifests itself into real-world issues, not just in terms of addiction, but as Catherine Burblesing, Who's Britain's most robust headteacher, wins awards for it.
She told me that 90% of all problems in schools are caused by social media, people falling out about posts and all that.
We'll get into that in a minute, actually, if that's alright, because you are completely right, as far as I can tell.
So, the BBC put out an article talking about this, being like, okay, look, studies have shown that actually huge numbers of young people are just physically addicted to their mobile phones.
This is not good.
the British Medical Journal of Psychiatry or something like that published an analysis of 41 studies which covered 42,000 young people in their investigation into problematic smartphone usage.
And they came across...
They came away from it saying, well, almost a quarter of young people are so dependent on their smartphones that it becomes like an addiction and they become panicky or upset if they are denied constant access.
Not even like, you know, not having them taken away from them.
If they can only have periodic access to the thing, they become panicky and anxious.
And a part of this, the addictive cycle is the prefrontal cortex, jumping into the brain sort of physiology.
And that part of the brain that says, is this a good idea?
Should I be doing this?
Isn't online until you're about 24.
And so we see that young people are much more receptive to addiction.
But in the meantime, somebody outside of them has to be that part of the brain.
A teacher, an adult, a parent.
And say, hang on a minute, no.
Children need to understand the power of the word no.
And every parent will be able to tell you that children are not good at self-regulation when they've got something they enjoy.
They'll do it for a long time, to their own detriment.
And they will do it more if you tell them not to.
Yes, unless you physically prevent them, yeah.
So the study found that 23% of young people were just, as far as they could determine, just openly addicted, as if they were on some sort of major drug.
And that's pretty terrible.
They have anxiety about not being able to use it, they can't moderate the time they spend using it, and it was detrimental to other activities that they should be doing.
So it's totally unhealthy.
Totally new, totally unhealthy.
So there are a series of apps that are designed to try and break your attention span on the mobile phone, but of course, who's using those?
Well, it's not 14-year-olds, is it?
Yeah, and it's interesting how the way of getting off a smartphone is an app on a smartphone.
I was going to bring that up.
There's something mildly ironic about, okay, well, I've got an app to try and get me to reduce my smartphone usage.
Stop using apps by using an app.
Yeah, I don't think that's the way to do it.
But this is a major problem, as you can imagine.
I mean, they cite a survey of 4,150 British adults in 2017...
In this article, in which, even, again, in 2017, so, you know, five years ago, 38% of British adults were like, yeah, I'm using my smartphone too much.
And 16 to 24-year-olds, that's more than half, who are like, yeah, I definitely use it too much.
So they know that it's, again, like, you know when you're smoking too much or you're drinking too much, people know that they're using their smartphones too much.
And let's be fair, I'm probably guilty of it.
You're probably guilty of it.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, everyone's guilty of it.
But at the end of the day, we're adults.
So no one is responsible for our behavior.
We're responsible for our own behavior.
However, when it comes to children, they're not adults.
They do not have to take responsibility for their own behavior.
The parents do.
And in internet years, 2017 is a lifetime ago.
Yes.
I mean, I would think it'd be much, much more than that now, Cole.
It quite probably is.
But let's go back to 2014, when smartphones became first popularised.
Parents, of course, had no idea what smartphones were, because they weren't raised with them.
These were just new things that turned up.
And the parents, 20% of parents, didn't even monitor what their children were doing online at that point.
And that's crazy, because the child literally has access to everything on the internet.
Yes.
Yeah, and that's a huge kind of knowledge-based gap amongst parents.
And also, getting back to porn, parents always compare stuff now to what they knew and understood.
Yes.
Oh, it's like razzle in a hedge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, it's not like that anymore.
No.
It's quite different.
No, it's way worse.
Yeah, and in terms of what you can access via the internet, you know, parents say, oh, they can order a pizza.
Yeah.
No, no, my friend.
They can order much more than that.
Yes.
And the comparison's when we were lads.
You'd find a porn magazine in a bush.
Okay, what do you get to see?
Boobs.
That's pretty milquetoast.
It's pretty inoffensive.
It's probably not going to destroy your perception of women or sex.
Whereas what's on the internet...
Yeah.
Doesn't even bear repeating.
And I saw, I witnessed that change, so in case, in case viewers aren't aware, I edited a load of magazine for 10 years, and, you know, the lads' mags, you know, were, were obliterated by the feminist critics, I'm sure we'll come into that in a bit, but they would wish those magazines back in a heartbeat, compared to what came after them.
Yeah, the irony is, careful what you wish for.
I'm loaded, objectifying women.
It's like, yes, but it's not doing it in a way that makes you think that women are just worthless.
The women are actually the centrepiece and valued in the magazine's spread.
But it's just not like that now.
And that ties back to your OnlyFans piece.
Are we going to talk about that, Wolf?
No, we're not going to talk about it, but you are exactly right.
Yeah, because what happened at that time was working-class young women who had credentials and wanted to make themselves a livelihood used them.
And the middle-class feminists hated it.
And I was on stage with Katie Price and Laura Bates, Everyday Sexism, and the No More Page 3 crew, and Katie Price said, I'm a feminist.
It's my body.
It's my choice while the head's rotated.
This is empowering for me.
Yeah.
Because it is.
It made her rich and famous.
It was her choice.
Yeah.
Anyway, let's go back to this, because one of the major problems with smartphones, which again, is just not something you would have thought about had you come from sort of our generation, is that actually this means that the bullying never stops.
Because when we were lads, okay, you went to school, maybe you did get bullied or something like that, but at least you went home.
At least that was it.
At least you got to do what you want and you weren't being...
You're perpetually stalked by your bully.
But no, now, as they say here, it's hard to escape.
Almost everyone has access to the internet, and not only is the information always online, so anyone can see it any time and any place, so it's never really forgotten, but that means that the people who are bullying you are not only people who are able to message you at any point, but also it's people you don't even know.
You get the attention of groups and areas of the internet who just enjoy that sort of thing.
Yeah, and it's a very, very real thing.
And I think a lot of the time people think, oh, you know, stop being so controlling, you know, stop being so censorious.
But it has a real-world manifestation.
And as I said, you know, speak to, switch on heads, and they are stopping children allowing to have them have phones in schools now.
And that's the right thing to do.
I think so.
Surrender them when they come in.
Yeah.
The parents complain about it.
Well, tough.
Send your kids somewhere else.
Your children do not need their mobile phone when they're at school.
No, they should not need it.
They've got no reason for it.
They do not need it.
And then they point out that, look, it's actually more invasive than face-to-face interaction as well.
And everyone's seen this through the use of, say, Twitter, that everyone is so disrespectful to one another.
It's like, okay, you're being bullied, but if the kid starts crying, maybe they'll be like, okay, I've gone too far.
But when you don't see the facial expressions of the person that you're talking to, well, that sort of level of empathy is broken.
Anyway, moving on, the police are well aware of the fact that child predators use the internet To contact children.
Because the children have access to the internet and there's literally nothing stopping them from getting in contact with them.
That seems like a problem to me.
Yeah, and again, it really is.
And who would have thought that predators would use any new technology or means possible to access their prey?
It's like the trans debate.
You know, if you're allowed suddenly to be a bloke in a women's space, some people will abuse it.
If you're a paedophile and you go into a children's space of ideology, of course, some people will abuse it.
I mean, why are people surprised about this?
Yeah, and children hardly have this sort of life experience or knowledge to know that they are being groomed or being targeted.
They can end up falling into patterns of behavior that they don't even realize is damaging themselves until it's far too late.
And the Nottingham police, I think, North Yorkshire police, sorry, just have been trying to warn parents like, look, all of these apps that you think are fairly innocent actually are gateways to child predators who, in some terms, are organized, who know that they can just message your in some terms, are organized, who know that they can just message your children and start getting them Of course, all of these phones have cameras on them as well, which is, again, something of a concern.
They give a list, but one of them being Instagram, which is actually a real problem.
We know that Instagram is, for example, making young women very depressed.
Yeah, and it's this constant sort of, you know, immersion in perfection.
Yes.
Or the perfection of others.
Or at least you get the best takes of other people's lives, which may be faked or filtered or whatever.
It's not even that it's fake.
It's just you don't see the good and the bad.
You only see the good.
So you come away with a mistaken impression that, oh, that person's perfect.
I saw a documentary a while ago of, like, the Instagram influencer and how this one woman would set up for, like, six hours to get this one shot of herself at a particular angle.
Yeah.
And then your average teenage girl is just like, oh my god.
Yeah, my barber, Sean, he's a working class Irish bloke, and his daughter won't even leave the house without doing her makeup.
Like, she takes about an hour and ten, just go and get a pint of milk.
Why is that?
That's crazy.
In case somebody puts her on Instagram.
It literally is controlling everything they do outside of the home and inside.
And this is not just kind of, you know, mollycoddling parents.
It is a real thing.
Yep.
Last September, a Facebook whistleblower told the Wall Street Journal that they knew that Instagram was negatively impacting teen girls' body image.
I mean, everyone seems to be surprised to learn this, but actually, young women are very, very insecure about their bodies and images normally, I think is a fair way to put it.
And unsurprisingly, this is having a long-term negative impact on young women.
And one of the problems that it has is it's encouraging a kind of weird cult-like behaviour in which young women tend to join groups that are basically negative.
For example, as the BBC reported, there's a rise of suicide groups And self-harming groups on Instagram.
Yes, so what we're saying is these things kind of always existed in young women, but they are gravitating towards people who in effect become their support networks for bad behavior.
So I've got an eating disorder, I think I might be trans, oh wow there's some other people who think like me, therefore that's okay.
It's not okay.
It's reinforcing bad decisions and bad life choices, but that's what it's doing.
And the problem as well, again, because of the sort of virtual nature of the internet, the self-selection allows a much larger number of people to arrive in a particular group than if it was in a local town.
You know, you might have one person who agreed with you in that town, but otherwise you wouldn't get any constant reinforcement for these very detrimental things.
The police briefing was revealed by the BBC last year, saying that peer-to-peer influence increased suicidal ideation amongst children involved to the extent that several escalated to suicide crises and serious self-harm.
And Instagram themselves, Facebook and Instagram, have even acknowledged that this is happening and trying to introduce AI bots to recognise self-harm and suicide content on the app.
And the famous example of this in Britain is of Molly Russell, who killed herself in 2017 because she essentially got sucked down a rabbit hole on Instagram of depression and suicide.
And so she was just up in her room, constantly consuming this terrible content.
She killed herself.
It's a really sad story, but I think it's one we can learn from in a positive way.
Every parent watching this needs to understand that this could be going on to their child.
We hear this about things like Shamima Begum and kids are radicalised and groomed in all sorts of ways.
If Shamima Begum didn't have a mobile phone, how would she have been contacted by us?
Right.
So I think that is instrumental for us all.
Just don't let kids have their devices in their bedrooms.
To me, that's really straightforward.
I mean, if you can't go as far as I go and just forbid them from just having the devices, make sure they only have them when they're in your presence.
You know, at the very least.
I mean, there are unfortunately loads of other examples of children committing suicide.
For example, in Malaysia, one teenage girl put on her Instagram account a poll saying, should she kill herself?
69% of people voted that she should, and so she did.
It's pretty awful, isn't it?
Yeah, but again, I think it underlies this sense of kind of separation from reality that the online world gives us.
I mean, you get a load of trolling, I get loads of trolling.
I understand I'm old enough and ugly enough to get it, but if I was a teenager, That's because you've been through the real world.
That's right.
This is something that came to you later in your adult life.
You must have been well into your 30s and 40s before you first got a mobile phone.
A tweet isn't a punch.
Yeah, exactly.
But a poll saying kill yourself if you're a teenager is very, very real.
And especially if so much of your world is an online world, like so much of your social interactions are actually now online, then you do end up in these...
Really quite extreme positions.
I mean, one 13-year-old in Bengal committed suicide after being told to do his homework and told that he couldn't use his mobile phone.
So he hanged himself.
It's just, I mean, it seems utterly ridiculous, doesn't it?
Yeah.
And hopefully these are just extreme cases, of course.
Well, hopefully.
But if you go to the next one, John, you can see the Indian Express reporting on this.
And they're like, look, the parents weren't beating or abusing him.
They were saying, hand over the mobile phone and finish his homework because it was getting late.
And so he went and hanged himself.
It's just ridiculous.
I mean, that's just...
If that's not a sign of extreme addiction, I don't know what it is, right?
There was an Italian girl who committed suicide at 13 because she was removed from a WhatsApp group as a joke, as in the people just teasing her, wouldn't it be funny?
And then she killed herself over this.
Yeah, because that kind of sense of social isolation, being ostracised via social media feels like a real-world thing.
Exactly.
If you're immersed in it so long, it's the same as the real world.
And like we were saying, your brain is constantly swimming in various pleasure-releasing chemicals and then suddenly all of that's drained away and suddenly you're sort of flung into this emotional black hole.
There was another 12-year-old who live-streamed her own suicide, which is just awful.
And so, basically, I'm at the point where I just don't think children should have access to smartphones and social media.
Yeah.
I think even the most, well, not liberal, but we are switched on to this.
We spent a lot of time immersed in this, but as you said, we were adults when we came to this kind of platform.
But there's no real good that comes of it.
I mean, you know...
I allow my kids to speak to their friends, but I'm in the room and I can overhear them.
It's often quite tedious to hear this nonsense about Minecraft, whatever it is.
But at least I'm there.
I'm not spying.
I'm just mindful.
You're being present.
I wasn't allowed a TV in my room when I was a kid.
No.
It just makes no sense.
So parents, I think, need to step up and grow a pair and just be a bit more firm.
Yeah, I agree with Kate Winslet.
Yeah, I do.
And I've never, I think, ever said that in my life.
Yeah.
Most liberal, you know, lovey you'll find.
Sure, but on this, she's got the parents' perspective.
She's absolutely right.
I put a poll up on Twitter.
I saw it.
To see who agreed.
If you can go to the next one, John, you can see by the time of closing, 34,000 votes, and 84.6% were like, no, they shouldn't have access to smartphones and social media.
5.8% said yes, which, I mean, why?
I was reading through the comments, and I didn't see anyone actually defending the yes position.
I think for your audience, who are very tech-savvy, very liberal-minded, very switched on, that is a conclusive and overriding result.
And that's because they've looked at the evidence they understand.
I think that's the position to take.
They know exactly what the problems are.
I saw a bunch of people saying, well, maybe they should have access to dumb phones.
Which is not a bad idea.
The old Nokia bricks.
Yeah, exactly.
The old Nokia's, where all you can do is telephone and text message.
And that would be a massive step towards a better situation for these young people, I think.
Yeah, but I mean, the thing is, those phones have really gone up in value.
I've still got a few of those phones.
Oh, have they?
Yeah, in my bottom drawer, yeah, because the battery used to last all week.
Yeah, yeah, it was great.
You couldn't just waste all of your life looking at tweets.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Basically, children don't really need social media.
It's bad for them.
It is.
They shouldn't have it, and almost everyone agrees with that position.
So, anyway.
And the people who work in tech definitely agree with that position.
Well, I forgot to get that up.
Because Zuckerberg and Apple, they don't let their children have any of their devices or apps.
Until they're about 14, 15 minimum.
So they get it and they make this stuff.
Exactly.
And whose opinion are you going to take?
You don't have to take my opinion.
Take the people who are producing this kind of poison.
Yeah, because they know.
Yeah, they are well aware.
Anyway, let's move on to the next story, which is...
Project Veritas, of course, doing the Lord's work as usual, have found the latest thing that is obviously terrible, that obviously shouldn't be happening.
And so they sent an undercover investigator in, got the footage, which we will watch shortly, and it kind of reinforces Josh's point in his latest contemplations, which you can go and watch on Notices.com, that leftists are bad people, as science has proven, apparently.
Dr.
Ben Shapiro has done his analysis and the science says immoral.
Anyway, moving on.
We're talking about Francis W. Parker's school.
Now, you've never heard of this, I'm sure.
Because why would you?
It's a posh private school in Chicago.
And if you scroll down a bit, you can see how they promote themselves.
It's all very wholesome looking, obviously.
I mean, what's not wholesome about that?
The Francis W. Parker School educates students to think and act with empathy, courage and clarity as responsible citizens and leaders in a diverse democratic society and global community.
The word diverse.
The alarm bells ring.
Yeah, it's a dog whistle, isn't it?
I'm hearing the dog whistle.
So I thought I'd look at their philosophy.
If you scroll down a bit, you'll find inclusivity and dignity.
Oh, here we go.
Brace thyselves.
The highly exclusive public school is going to talk to me about inclusivity.
We deliberately composed a diverse group of people committed to equity and inclusion throughout the school.
We create learning experiences through the curriculum and pedagogy that resonates with the many different identities that our community comprises, making us effective citizens who honour the dignity of every human being.
Oh, God, this is incredibly woke, isn't it?
It's a bloody woke school.
Go on to the next one.
They've got a diversity, equity, and inclusion statement.
Of course, the Rainbow Heart.
Yes, of course it is.
Of course, this is just an insanely left-wing woke school.
But anyway, so I'll skip over that one.
Let's have a look at some of the upcoming events they've got going.
Critical Conversations presents Dr.
Daniel J. Siegel, Interconnected, Self-Identity and Belonging.
And so he's going to be talking about insight, empathy and integration...
Oh good.
In critical conversations.
Good to know.
Let's have a look at their diversity job fair that's coming up.
For teachers, staff and administrators of colour.
The fair is for administrators and staff and teachers of colour.
No white people allowed, you'd have seen.
That's the implication, isn't it?
Yeah.
And they're, of course, just open racialists.
We go to the next speech by Ijeoma Ululu on...
So you want to talk about race?
No, I don't.
Yeah, no, I really don't.
God, I really don't.
I'm so tired.
I'm so tired of talking about race.
This is the fifth annual Rita and Robbie Robinson Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging Conference.
And their speaker has been billed as a, quote, writer, speaker and internet yeller.
Brilliant.
They're going to yell at me about race.
So, how much are we paying to go to this school?
Do you want to give me an estimate?
What do you reckon?
I would assume, being charitable, it's about $70,000 a year?
$40,000, actually.
Okay, right.
So, not quite.
But still, $40,000 a year, to tell me how it's inclusive, is a lot of money.
Yeah, it is.
And it's not very inclusive if we look at it through the lens of class.
Now, it costs a fortune, basically.
And so, you can imagine the kind of school this is.
The thing about this, before I know you're moving on, is that these schools exist all over Britain.
Yeah, they do.
All over Britain.
And I've spoken in a lot of these schools.
When I used to do my kind of porn awareness stuff, these schools are absolutely actually the worst offenders for this kind of woke indoctrination.
That's what they are.
They're woke indoctrination centres.
Yeah.
They don't even understand themselves as woke indoctrination centres either.
They don't understand that there could be a more conservative or traditional morality that actually answers the questions that they're raising better than the way that they are answering themselves.
And back to the smartphone conversation, this same conversation brings through.
My boy's 13.
He goes to a state school, but a trans teacher started.
And suddenly there are two trans pupils in my boy's class.
Really?
Yeah, suddenly.
A boy and a girl who now identify as the opposite gender.
And all the kids are compelled to write their pronouns on their exercise books.
And my boy came home and said, what do I do, Dad?
I said, what do you think you should do?
He said, well, I don't really want to get involved in that.
I said, well, don't then.
I said, but if I don't, they call me a transphobe.
So the de facto position is join in or be isolated.
Stigmatized.
And that's what all of this is doing.
The same as the smartphone stuff.
Yep, that's absolutely right.
And so the dean of this school was recently exposed by Project Veritas.
Joseph Bruno, the dean of students of Francis W. Park School, was out having a beer or a lunch with just some random person who was like, so what do you do?
Let's watch the clip.
I had like our LGBTQ plus health center come in.
They were passing around butt plugs and dildos to my students, talking about queer sex, using flu versus using spit.
Meet Joe Bruno, dean of students at the prestigious Francis W. Parker private school in Chicago, which happens to charge $40,000 per student.
They're just, like, passing on dildos, butt gloves.
The kids are just playing with them.
They're like, how do you, how does this book work?
How do we do, like, how does this work?
That's a really, like, cool part of my job.
Parents might be stunned to learn that Bruno's version of love and acceptance means handing out sex toys to underage students.
So I've been the dean for four years.
During Pride, we do a Pride week every year.
And I had, um...
I had like our LGBTQ plus health center come in.
They were passing around butt plugs and dildos to my students, talking about queer sex, using blue versus using spit.
Who is this?
This is an LGBTQ plus health center came in to talk to my high school students.
They're just like passing around dildos, butt plugs.
The kids are just playing with them.
They're looking at them.
In the school?
In a classroom.
Wow.
Yeah.
While I'm sitting there.
And we had a drag queen come in, pass out cookies and brownies and do photos.
It's amazing.
And everybody's cool with that, like the plugs and the dildos.
Nobody complains.
I mean, if the parents found out, would they...
No.
It's queer sex.
This is the drag queen that came in.
What's her name?
Alexis Bevels.
Alexis Bevels.
And just hung out in my classroom.
And was there...
Or hung out in my office.
You have so much freedom.
So much...
So much freedom, so much money, to do stuff.
They don't know.
They would.
It's like, I wouldn't even run it by them.
Like, why would I run it by them?
They'd be like, oh my god, that's wonderful.
Like, all with the kids that, with the classroom.
14, 18.
They're like, how do you, how does this fucking work?
How do we do, like, how does this work?
We'll stop it there, John, just so I think we've got the...
So yeah, that's a real...
These people should be jailed.
They are outright pedophiles.
They are child abusers.
They are indoctrinating children via their own perversions.
I might sound suddenly right-wing, but I'm a parent.
Well, I'm sorry, I don't think that's a right-wing position.
Surely any parent can be like, look, I'm not going to have some random guy in just some LGBTQ health centre come in and start teaching my children about sex toys.
And there's a long and illustrious and dark heritage and history about the liberal left and pedophilia.
Go back to the 1970s.
No, Pi, the Peter Marlowe, the FH exchange, the Labour Party.
Harriet Harman was it?
Yep.
Was one at the helm of that.
She was like the deputy head of that.
And that was mainstream Labour Party policies.
All of the prominent French intellectuals in the 70s also signed a letter trying to get it reduced to 13.
A bunch of them were apparently pedophiles themselves.
This has happened in Germany as well.
It is just one of those things about the left is that they feel it's acceptable to sexualize children.
Yeah, and it completely is not.
And isn't it funny how the extreme position now is to protect children?
Yes.
It's absolutely out of control, and this is taking hold in Britain.
All the bad ideas take hold in places like Brighton and Bristol.
This is coming to a school near you.
Like I said, it's at my boys' school.
The gender politics is now taught 15 minutes every morning, Cole.
They talk about LGBTQ stuff in a state school 15 minutes every morning.
It's completely out of hand.
Under a conservative government?
Yeah, and it's completely out of control.
The problem is fear.
People are afraid to question them in case they get labelled with all these things like, you know, you're a transphobe, you're a homophobe.
No, the adults need to come back into the room and this crap is going to be kicked out of our schools.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I mean, once this became public, the school just deleted their Twitter account.
Yeah.
So, you know...
If you delete the school...
If you're not ashamed of what you're doing, Why'd you do this?
What's the issue?
But then the school did issue a statement.
And we'll let James O'Keefe tell us about it.
We have a statement hot off the press from Dan Frank, principal of the Francis W. Parker School in Highland Park, Chicago.
This is in reaction to the latest bombshell report.
Let's see what it says.
Will they fire the dean?
Will they condemn what he said?
No, they're taking an interesting approach here.
Listen to this.
Last week at the National Association of Independent Schools People of Color Conference, one of our employees was targeted by the group and misled to believe he was conversing with another conference attendee over a copy.
He was filmed without his knowledge or permission while describing one example of our inclusive, affirming, and comprehensive approach to sex education.
This group, Project Veritas, So they're saying that we edited it with malicious intent, literally his words, There are no edits.
It's just him talking about dildos and butt plugs and spit and awful things with 14-year-old girls getting this information.
I don't know.
There's no edit.
What are they talking about edit?
Are they saying he didn't say these things?
Then sue me!
Sue me!
Otherwise, we never lost a defamation lawsuit.
That's because we don't edit anything improperly.
Earlier this week, the same group, Veritas, attempted to ambush our employee at the school and was escorted off campus without incident.
Well, we have that video coming tomorrow.
Your characterization is maliciously edited, by the way, compared to what we actually have on video.
It's always interesting how that works.
Well, we have no reason to believe there is a threat to the physical security of work with the Alderman's Office and Police that's implemented higher security measures.
These are underage children being given anal...
Alright, we'll stop that one there as well, John.
So, I just find this interesting.
We are sickened by this group's deceptive tactics.
Their invasion during a People of Colour conference and their attack on the LGBT community.
Yeah, it's utterly grotesque how they use every possible, you know, victimhood shield.
Oh, we're the victims here, people of colour.
No, it's not about people of colour.
You are perverts.
Yes.
And you're putting this to children, and that's inexcusable.
And in what world are...
It's like libs of TikTok.
Yeah.
They're just showing what people say.
And they're called the ones who are the hate.
Now, they're not doing the hate crime.
You said it.
You're hung by your own petard.
This is on you.
And if you're poisoning my child, then you are a problem.
These schools should be shut.
Just like we saw with the Trojan Horse campaign in Birmingham, where they're radicalising kids over Islam during the jihad years of ISIS. These schools should be closed down with immediate effect.
It's terrible.
If you can go to the next one, John, just so we can see the full statement in a second.
Can we get that, please?
So they sent this email around to everyone, saying, look, we're writing to let you know that one of our employees, while at a conference last week, was targeted by a right-wing, fringe group of individuals seeking to undermine and manipulate diversity, equity and inclusion in belonging work in schools.
It's like, yeah, okay.
Yeah, they are not in favour of where the die agenda ends up going.
It's right wing to not want your child to have a butt plug put in them.
Yeah, no, that's actually true.
Well, in that case, I'm a right-winger.
We all are.
Yes.
Apart from the pedophiles.
Yes.
And let's be fair, how many children do you think that Dean himself has?
He's probably single, childless, doesn't understand what the concern is.
But yeah, as you can see, they're doubling down on this.
They're completely in defence of the person who's like, yeah, 14-year-olds should know whether to use spit or to use lube.
I mean, what's wrong with you?
Yeah.
We've seen this with Jimmy Savile, with the Catholic Church, with Boy Scouts.
All these institutions were infiltrated by predators.
And I really do think schools are now becoming that battlefront.
It just seems to attract these absolute wrong-uns.
But not only that, they're being defended by the school.
As the people without the extreme opinionists, the world's gone insane.
But as we saw at the beginning, the school itself is woke, right?
So it's an institutionally woke school.
And so, of course, the people higher up in the institution, they don't see anything wrong with this.
The LGBTQ centre came in to teach 14-year-olds about butt plugs and sex toys.
Well, of course they did.
Because we agree with that.
We think that that's the right way to do it.
And so, of course, it goes to the principal who's like, yeah, no, there's nothing wrong with that.
You're wrong in trying to get us to stop doing that.
And it's just incredible that, like I say, it's now an extreme position to want to stop children being abused like this.
Preserve their innocence.
Yeah.
Is it wrong?
Well, apparently it is.
But the point is, this is not the first time that the left has arrived at the position where they're like, yeah, but we need to get access to those children and to indoctrinate them into various sexual practices.
It's like, right, why do you need that?
If that's what you need, then that's a you problem.
It's not what the children need.
It's because, you've probably talked about this a lot on the show, but wokery is now like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
It just is.
It's way worse than the Job's Witnesses.
I'm a believer.
You're a sinner.
I'm going to do whatever it takes to make you like me, even if that means butt plugs and saliva.
Well, that's how they recruit to their cause, isn't it?
I mean, they can't do it by propagation.
You know, they can't reproduce, because of course, how's the LGBT community going to have families and children?
And so they need access to yours, and that's what they're using this now.
Now, I'm sure there are lots of LGBT people who are like, you know, this was wrong, and it shouldn't be done.
But of course, they don't get to have a voice.
And when you get an account like Gays Against Groomers, who are like, no, this is for adults, this is not for children.
Children do not need to know about this.
Well, what happened under the pre-Elon Musk regime?
They got banned.
Yeah, exactly.
And back in my day on Loaded, we did a straight pride march, and it was a deliberate troll, and it still comes up on YouTube.
It was a really, really fun day.
It was actually the idea of a gay guy that worked in the magazine, because it said, I hate pride.
You know, I don't want to be defined by my sexuality, so let's do straight pride.
So we did.
We dressed as famous straight guys.
I was a caveman.
We had a Rod Stewart.
We had a snooker player.
It was just a bit of fun.
And the thing is, it's totally out of control.
And those dissenting voices, they're either self-censored or they're cancelled themselves.
That's what's happening.
Anyway, as much as this is annoying me, let's move on.
Let's...
God, the absolute state of the world, though, isn't it?
It's like, literally, you've got a bunch of groomers running schools.
Well, that's the word.
And they're trying to ban the word grooming, but it is grooming.
It is, yeah.
You know, if you're dropping these seeds into young minds, I don't care if my children turn out gay.
That's absolutely their choice.
But I don't want them to be told that's the best thing to do.
The children at my boys' school who come out as trans or come out as gay, they are treated like heroes.
Every child wants to be a hero.
It's perverse incentives by perverse people in order to pervert your children.
It's incentivised to be LGBTQ in British schools, even in state schools, let alone these fee-paying nonsense finishing schools.
Honestly, it's really disgraceful that we even have to have the conversation maybe we shouldn't be trying to overtly sexualise children.
They don't need to know about lubrication.
They shouldn't be having sex.
They're 14.
Anyway, let's move on to Oh god, this is Labour now.
I hate them.
This is my door.
I think I've brought them in.
No, no, it's fine.
Let's talk about the plan that the Labour Party has to finally finish off the United Kingdom.
Because, of course, they hate the United Kingdom and everything it stands for.
Because, well, it's not leftist, frankly.
Britain's quite a far-right country, in all respects, actually.
Yeah, well, we're very socially conservative, but we used to prescribe to good old-fashioned, you know, work-hard, working-class values.
I'm afraid they're gone.
No, they're completely gone.
Before we begin, though, if you want to support us, go over to lessees.com and go check out my book club on Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France, because that is what Keir Starmer is trying to do.
He, I just don't think, is...
Possibly well-educated enough to understand that this is what he's trying to do.
And because we know how this all turns out, we know that Keir Starmer's plan is going to fail, and it's going to cause far more damage than he thinks it could possibly bring about.
So let's begin with how we know that the Labour Party are going to win.
We'll just go down to the poll on this one.
Is this the right one?
No, this is for three years.
Let's go for the last six months, just so you can see.
Yeah, there we go.
So you can see the Conservatives are currently underwater at 27%.
Labour's on about 50%, 49% around there.
Reform are up to about 5%.
This is a poll of polls.
So I've seen polls that have put you on 9% and things like that.
But overall, about 5%.
And the Lib Dems, the Greens, is constant at their sort of 5% and 10% because...
You know, some people are middle class and live far away from diversity.
So basically, what we can see from that, let's go back to it, John.
You can see the Conservatives are about to get absolutely smashed in the next general election.
This is why all the Conservative MPs are saying we're not going to stand, isn't it?
Yeah, it's absolutely astonishing.
I mean, people aren't aware.
I stood as a Brexit Party candidate in 2019.
I was a Brexit Party MEP. I gave up a very comfortable life to go to Brussels and make sure we got Brexit done.
And after I lost in Ashfield to Lee Anderson, who's actually one of the good conservatives, he just got a Twitter account this week.
You should go to it.
Okay.
He doesn't give a shit.
Am I allowed to say that?
No.
No.
He doesn't give her monkeys.
He absolutely trolls everyone.
But he's very much in a minority.
And what's happening?
In 2019, when I went into Parliament in 2020 in January, they were so boorish, they were saying that the next Labour leader hasn't even been born.
This is Tory MPs saying that.
I couldn't imagine being that arrogant.
But to see this is absolutely astonishing.
And just a quick thing.
I mean, okay, I can't...
That's a statement of remarkable arrogance, considering that it was the party itself that backstabbed Boris Johnson, and then backstabbed Liz Truss, and went completely against the membership's wishes to install the WEF-approved Goldman Sachs banker Rishi Senak.
Yeah, and, you know, those of us who were saying that Rishi, especially Jeremy Hunt, you know, Jeremy Hunt wanted to cancel Brexit, wanted a second referendum, still wants to get us back in the single year.
All this stuff about the Swiss-style Brexit that broke a couple of weeks ago that we covered on GB News is completely true.
It's not conspiracy theory.
No, no.
And they have utterly betrayed the working-class vote.
The Red Wall is about just to go back to Labour.
Why would they stay?
How is Rishi Sunak in any way representative of their interests?
Well, they're actually all the same.
That's the biggest problem.
They all believed in lockdowns, which annihilated the country and damaged our children.
They all believed in vaccination and all that.
They all believe in the net zero madness.
I'm sure we'll come on to that in a minute.
They all believe in fuel poverty and bankrupting the working classes.
They all think everyone's racist.
They all hate Britain.
And that is why Labour are just the least bad option.
I think we're at that point again.
I hate to say it, but I don't think they are the least bad option.
That's the problem.
The only good option is one of the minor dissident parties.
I hate to say minor, but it's the fact of the matter.
Reform, Heritage, or some of the others.
These are the only parties we're voting for, because they're the only parties who actually don't hate Britain.
Yeah.
Yeah, and, you know, I knock around with Nigel Farage quite a bit.
Richard Tice is a good friend of mine.
He's the leader of reform.
And I think, I hope, that things might, the cogs might start falling into place.
I hope so, but the British public have to get out of this rut of being like, well, I'm going to vote Labour or Conservative.
Because it's up to them, ultimately, what politicians end up in Westminster.
And while we're so stupid as to continue voting Labour or Conservative...
We're going to be trapped in the same paradigm.
Yeah, it's a definition of insanity.
Repeat the same thing and expect a different outcome.
But I guess part of the problem is the first-pass-the-post system is so punishing.
UKIP got four million votes in one seat.
So the big issue, I think, is going to be apathy.
What's the point?
Everything's the same.
Why bother?
Well, the Labour donors certainly feel that they're going well, because the Labour donations have now overtaken the Conservative Party donations.
So you can see the Conservative Party is just shrinking, withering away, because they don't have support from their base, they don't have support from their donors, and that means we are going to get Keir Starmer's insane radical vision for common sense, which is how he's framed it.
We're going to go through a bit of the Labour Party manifesto that he's put out.
A new Britain.
Oh, brilliant.
That's exactly what I wanted.
The new Britain, built for the new man.
This is the same sort of rhetoric as the kind of Soviet Revolution.
Or new Labour.
It's Blairism again, isn't it?
Yes, but Blairism is sort of...
I don't want to sound extreme, but a kind of communism through incrementation.
As you can see, look at this.
A new Britain.
I don't want a new Britain.
I want the old Britain.
I liked the old Britain.
The Britain before Tony Blair.
That's what I'm after.
Yeah.
And I've been through this for my sins, you know, Gordon Brown's 40-point plan, and there are some good bits in it.
But on the whole...
Well, you've got 155 pages.
Yeah.
Can't all be terrible.
Well, it could, actually.
It's later.
But we'll go through the bits that I think are particularly objectionable.
So on page 8, he says this, right?
To ensure Britain can enjoy the system of government it deserves, we need radical change.
In this report, we set out a new vision of Britain founded on a new relationship between our government, our communities and people.
A new Britain that gives British people the power and respect they and their communities want and rightfully deserve.
Okay, so it's a radical change.
I accept that Labour proposes yet another set of radical changes.
But that's a kind of non-sequitur of word salads.
I mean, what's it mean?
Well, it's, of course, Keir Starmer's document.
I mean, if there's one thing Keir Starmer isn't known for, it's speaking sense.
But I hate, like, the socialists, oh, we need radical change.
So, look, radical means an extreme break from the existing order.
I actually don't want...
A French Revolution in my country.
You know, we got half of one with Blair and Keir is basically promising the other half, right?
So he carries on.
The individual changes that we recommend are, in our view, common sense reforms.
Right.
Radical common sense reforms, aren't they?
That's just an open contradiction.
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, exactly.
It can't be both.
It's either extremely radical or it's common sense.
You don't get to have both and make it sound like they line up.
Yes.
Anyway, so this is the, you know, taken together, they add up to a radical blueprint for the significant and serious change that people the length and breadth of the country, they told us they want to see.
Yeah, it's just kind of, you know, put you to sleep material at this point.
It's just droning on.
But anyway, this first one, I think, is, again...
More important than people understand it to be, right?
They say, first, the purpose of New Britain, of the New Britain, right?
So, the purpose.
Countries don't have a purpose, right?
Countries are there for you to live in.
You know, you live in a country and you want good governance.
What you don't want is to have an ideological goal imposed upon your country.
This is actually rather the perspective of fascism actually, where the goal is to become the great imperial state that outcompetes all of the other nations in a Darwinian contest.
But they say the purpose of New Britain should be grounded in the shared values and aspirations that unite the people across our country, that we need to make possible, that we need to build new constitutional foundations.
Okay, but we don't share values.
And there's lots of echoes, actually, in this language, as there was in the woke schools language, if you think about it.
It's the same doctrine of, you know, we need more diversity, except if you're white and work in class, except if you don't want to change.
What about if we quite liked our town when it wasn't overran by Albanians?
That was quite good.
Can we go back to that?
No, you're a racist.
Yeah, that's not inclusive.
No.
And so, grounded in the shared values, it's like, Kier, you're going to have to work really hard to explain to me what these shared values are, because I reject everything you're trying to do here.
But I'm just going to have it imposed on me, aren't I? This isn't going to be inclusive.
This isn't going to be democratic.
It's going to be top-down managerial revolution, which is all we've seen.
So, secondly, they say, at the centre of our reinvigorated democracy...
Oh, I'm so tired of the word democracy as well.
I'm just so tired of it.
It's ensuring that the right powers are in the right places.
I'm sure that Keir Starmer's the man for the job.
Best and brightest, I hear.
If you look into that, that bit is actually really interesting.
And what it means is more powers to the provinces.
What it means is more mayors.
Now, if you look at the mayors in Britain, I think there are eight mayors.
Out of 30 that aren't Labour.
Because guess what?
Towns tend to be Labour.
Cities tend to be Labour.
What this means...
More Sadiq Khans.
Yeah.
It means more Andy Burnhams, more Sadiq Khans, more towns and cities ran by Labour, even when they get kicked out of power.
This is devolution.
It's making Wales and Scotland the same as...
Birmingham, Manchester, and it means that Labour will ruin everything even when they lose their next election.
That's actually worth looking at because it's dangerous.
They know exactly why they're doing this.
That's what it is.
Because they know that they will lose in national elections eventually when the Conservative Party stop being a WEF woke party themselves.
And what they're trying to do is blind us with let's abolish the Lords, but that is the real power grab call.
Well, that's thirdly.
We want root and branch reform of the centre of our government.
That's what it means.
But if...
I mean, for me, Labour is the party of midwits, right?
The party of absolute morons.
And it's just, the only reason I say that is because I look at who's on the front bench of Labour, and I notice that not one of them cracks 100 IQ. Like, they're all really stupid.
Keir Starmer, you know, himself, and then maybe Keir Starmer's like 105, so he's capable of achieving, like, an English degree or something, whatever it is he got.
plebs and midwits, who I wouldn't trust to run a bakery.
And now they're like, okay, we're gonna have root and branch reform of this ancient institution that's inextricably complex because of the age of the thing.
And they're like, no, you're just gonna break it.
That's what we're gonna do. - If you're concerned about how Wales and Scotland were ran during the lockdown.
Yeah, that's how Keir Starmer wants the rest of the country.
He does.
And that actually is the thing that's really worth focusing on, because that giving away power to the provinces actually means giving power to Labour.
Yeah, to...
Even more midwits.
Even more people who think they know more than they actually know.
He says here, this is why we put forward detailed proposals for abolishing the current undemocratic House of Lords.
Obviously, it's a House of Lords.
Of course it's not democratic.
And he has called the House of Lords indefensible, which I find absolutely preposterous.
He wants to replace it with a democratic chamber.
Oh, brilliant.
More democracy.
That is permanently closer to the British people because it is more representative of the nations and regions of the United Kingdom.
But they haven't said yet who'd vote for it.
Yes.
Is it the public or is it the politicians?
I suspect it would be the politicians, which means it would just be stuff full of labour rights.
And it would be even less representative than the House of Lords is, right?
But the thing that they don't seem to understand is that...
Yes, it is useful.
What's the purpose of a democracy?
The purpose of a democracy is to have a responsive governmental system, right?
Because you know you personally probably won't be the guy in there making decisions, but you at least want them to be able to...
You have an avenue.
say, look, if you don't do what's in my interest, at least I can take some action to remove you, right?
But the House of Lords, okay, so we've got that in the Commons.
The House of Lords is a good idea in theory, actually, because it is useful to have a group of, say, say, elder statesmen who do not have to worry about the constant pressures of democratic reelection in order to take a longer view of how the civilization is going to be in 10 years time, in 20 years time, in 50 years time.
Those five-year increments that each modern democratic politician cares about, those people don't have to worry about that.
And so they can actually think in the much longer and broader view of where we will be in 50 years that the incrementalist five-year democrat politician doesn't understand and just isn't incentivized to think about.
Yeah, and this is red meat to the kind of socialists, the same anti-monarchists.
The red meat, they like all that.
But isn't it funny how Keir Starmer loved the House of Lords when all it did was block Brexit?
Yeah.
Suddenly he's again it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's insufferable.
And again, it just goes to show the lack of long-term planning that's gone into this.
The kind of short-term, midwip, managerial thinking that Keir Starmer is famous for at this point, right?
And the next one is, fourthly, the empowerment of our towns, cities, and regions.
There we go.
More, more, right?
And then, fifthly, a new voice, new status, new powers for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland as valued parts of the United Kingdom.
Why?
They've got devolved parliaments.
What more do they need?
These all should be abolished anyway.
Yeah.
There we go.
Empowering mayors, combined authorities.
This is basically more regional management.
A bit like France.
Well, what a great success France is when they can't run a bath in most of their towns.
What a great success the devolved parliaments in Britain have been.
Yeah.
Hotbeds of secessionism.
Yeah.
And that's all that will be fostered in this.
It will be secessionists who are like, yeah, we need to leave the United Kingdom, we need to leave the United Kingdom.
I mean, Nicola Sturgeon lost a vote on Scottish independence in 2014, and she won't shut up about it.
Yeah, and it's the same with Drakeford in Wales, and it'd be the same, I mean, you know, Sadiq Khan, you know, for me, is the worst politician, perhaps on the planet.
Sure.
Worse than Guy Verhofstadt, and I say that as somebody who gave up my entire career to go to Brussels, but he cannot ever and will not be voted out until he decides to go.
That will be the fate of Birmingham, Manchester, and everywhere that Labour put them there, because they know it's about grasping power, perhaps forever for Labour.
Yep.
And so this, on page 23, I think is incredibly indicative of the way that they look at this thing.
What is this?
What are we looking at?
Britain is falling down the growth league table.
Oh, Britain is part of a league table now, is it?
That's actually not how I view this country.
I actually view this country as an ancient inheritance, not a competitive sport.
Oh, we're below Canada, and we're below Germany and the United States in whatever arbitrary metric we've decided to put this table together with.
I don't care.
Well, the Labour Party will kill us with our heritage, they'll kill us with our history, they'll kill us with our culture, and they'll also kill us with our present performance whenever it suits them.
They hate Britain.
They do.
I mean, look at what Keir Starmer's presenting here.
I want radical change so that we'll be higher on this league table.
That's not what I'm up for.
I do not want radical change.
This is totally wrong-headed, right?
Let's give millions of pounds to mid-management halfwits in provincial towns.
Yeah, that'll get us at the World League table, won't it?
I'm sure that's going to reduce my taxes.
I'm sure that's going to reduce immigration.
I'm sure that's going to improve the quality of life.
Of me and my community.
No, obviously not.
This is insane managerial competitiveness.
And it's funny, Cole, because I come from a Labour background.
I come from Nottingham.
And I joke about Labour.
And I interview Labour ministers and politicians most days I'm on GB News.
And I'm filled with a sense of mourning for what the party's become and what it once was.
Well, it used to be patriotic.
Yeah, and we used to have an opposition.
Yeah.
We used to have some...
A group of people who actually fought on issues, whereas now we have a uni party.
And this doing down in Britain, I think, is tragic.
They should be saying, we should be back at number one, and here's how we do it.
Not look at it as we're a load of rubbish.
I don't even think we should be competing in this sort of way.
We should be looking at the quality of our country in human terms.
We should be looking and going, look, how do we feel about this country?
Because I feel terribly about this country.
I feel this country is being utterly abolished.
And I can't stand it.
So we should be looking, okay, what actually made Britain unique and good for the people who lived in it?
And actually, all of those things have been stripped away.
Yeah, these are deep-searching questions.
We don't feel safe in our own country anymore.
We don't seem to recognise the towns and cities up and down the country anymore.
Well, we had a report on GB again yesterday.
Mark White, our Home and Defence spokesperson, looked at the undocumented illegals coming in who are making Britain higher on the terror alert list.
And it's like, well, who didn't see that coming?
Yeah.
Because let's invite those people in without passports and take the leap of faith.
They might...
Well, let's hope they're not jihadists.
But the thing that I'm looking through is...
The lens I'm looking through is the sentimental attachment I can have to the country that I live in.
And it used to be that most people in Britain seemed to have a deep sentimental attachment to just their country.
And who can have a deep sentimental attachment to...
Sadiq Khan's London.
Or Birmingham.
The people who live there don't have a sentimental attachment to it.
And the media, the BBC in particular, tell us all the time how terrible we are.
And that is why, by the way, I'm so chuffed with what you guys are doing here.
You're a proper alternative voice, and well done, you're a huge success.
Thank you.
Right, so let's go to page 49.
From the Old Britain to the New Britain.
I just love this.
At the bottom of this page, it's got a statement that I'm just going to ring out.
Collectively, our shared identity, values and priorities provide a strong foundation on which a New Britain, distinct from the Old Britain underlying in the Constitution today, can be built.
I don't want a New Britain.
Nobody does.
We don't have any shared values, Keir.
Like, we don't have any shared priorities.
I don't have a shared identity.
When you say we, I don't think I'm included in that word.
Yeah, and also they say that we have too much red tape in Britain.
Okay, so let's introduce a load of mayors.
Yeah.
Because that will get rid of red tape, won't it?
Who brought the red tape in, Keir?
Yeah, exactly.
Is it the Labour Party, Keir?
But anyway, so the next page, we get Exhibit 24, which I think this is just...
This is the smoking gun, right?
To show you that what Keir Starmer is trying to do is turn this into revolutionary France or the American Republic.
What they're trying to create is a social contract nation in Britain.
Britain is not a social contract nation.
Britain is an ancient and settled nation, a commonwealth of nations, if you will, that came together as a united kingdom because one king became the king of...
Multiple different nations, right?
So we are not predicated on some kind of ideological premise.
Unlike the United States, unlike the French Republic, we do not have a single ideological statement from which we are trying to build the nation.
And so that's what Keir Starmer's trying to bring in, right?
So we'll look at these quickly, right?
So Britishness defined by how we are born, parentage and birth.
Yes, that's how the entire old world works.
And isn't it funny how, if you say Jamaican-ness is defined by where we were born, that's great.
Yeah, let's be really proud.
And that is great.
They should be proud of their heritage.
But uniquely, Britons are not allowed to be proud of their heritage because that is regressive.
It's old Britain.
It's like everything we understood and stood for and valued has to be thrown on the funeral pyre.
B.S. Being British, as in being English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish, these are ethnicities that are defined by your parentage.
Yeah, and what's clever about this though, and I hate to say it, but it is clever, because it appeals to people in the same way that Scottishness did.
This anti-Westminster, anti-Whitesall sentiment does work.
Mm-hmm.
And they know they're pressing the right buttons.
They're not offering a solution, apart from more mayors.
It's utterly nefarious, right?
Because what they want to do is Britishness defined by what we can do, citizenship.
It's like, okay, so what they're saying is, if some chap arrives from who knows where in the world, gets off the boat and gets his visa and a passport, he is as valid a citizen and has always been as valid a citizen as people who have always been here.
And that's just not fair.
It's not fair.
That's them selling your country out.
That means they can just literally replace the population and say, well, it's just as British as it ever been.
Look at the number of passports.
And yet, if you're a Briton and emigrate to Spain, you get treated as a second-last citizen.
You're sort of leeching off them.
You can't even speak Spanish.
The next one is British identity over all others.
Because, of course, British identity has some sort of cultural meaning.
When Brits go abroad, people go, oh, there's a British person.
You know, they know you're British, right?
But instead, no, they want to turn everyone into hyphenated Brits.
British identity resilient alongside regional, ethnic, national identity.
So, Martin, you'll be an English Brit, or a British English.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's divide and conquer, isn't it?
That's what this really is.
Get back to the school thing again, Cole.
My kids are taught about the importance of every religion on the planet, apart from Christianity.
They're taught about black history being great, but never, you know, white history.
Or English history.
Yeah, Churchill was bad.
And we did stop that Hitler guy.
And that's what this is actually about.
It's about focusing on all the bad things we've ever done.
It's about a levelling.
Yeah, denigrating, you know, our value.
And meanwhile, stand aside.
That's what it is.
It's stand aside and give power and give equality.
But why should British identity not be above all of the other identities?
Well, it should be if that's who you are.
For example, isn't it funny how every form of nationalism in the UK is celebrated apart from being English?
Well, that's exactly right.
And as I said, it's a levelling.
What they're trying to do is make some sort of...
British Pakistani is just as valued and level with being an Englishman in England.
It's like, sorry, is that right?
It doesn't sound right to me.
And also, if you ask a Pakistani guy what they value most about their heritage, they will say, well, I'm Pakistani.
And good luck to him.
No problem.
But if you say to me, well, you're not allowed to celebrate being English.
Stand aside.
People hate this sort of stuff.
But it gets in under the radar.
All this nonsense, as bad as it looks, sadly, is probably about to become true.
Oh, well, this is why I'm highlighting this.
Because no one's going to notice this.
Because, you know, buried on page 50.
Page 51.
Yeah, of a 155-page Labour manifesto that was written by, like, Keir Starmer and his lackeys.
No one's going to read.
This is the plan, right?
And then the next one.
A centralised state run by Whitehall and Westminster.
Yes, it's called Britain.
It's called the United Kingdom.
It's called Givening.
What we're going to have...
Exactly.
We're going to have a state of nations where communities can make their own decisions.
So, right.
So you want the American Republic in Britain.
We're not the American Republic.
We did not come about through a revolution.
But that's what he's promising to bring us.
Again...
Agnostic on the role of geography and family wealth in determining life chances.
Oh, proactively equalising opportunity for all citizens.
Nonsense.
That just means taking everyone's money.
That is just socialism in different words.
Yes.
Give us all your dosh.
Exactly what it is.
For there to be equality of opportunity, everyone would have to start at exactly the same place.
Yeah, and they haven't in the same way that Nigeria tends to be populated by their royal family who are black.
Yeah.
And the last one, redistributive model.
The wealth of the nation is invested to create wealth everywhere.
Well, who decides that?
Well, it's going to be a labour bureaucrat.
Yeah, of course.
Brilliant.
Yeah, the tax men.
Yeah.
So, this is never going to work.
It's going to turn Britain into an American or French-style social contract society, and it's going to destroy this country, because this is precisely, going back to Edmund Burke, what his criticism of this kind of French model of The sort of breaking apart of traditional bonds and atomizing into certain constitutive parts causes, what keeps them together?
Well, ordinarily, the people.
Yes.
But when you've broken everything up and devolved all the powers into these little things, well, why shouldn't they just start breaking away into their own little republics?
Why do they need the central government anymore?
Right.
You know, why is it a united people?
Which is precisely what we're seeing when it comes to questions of Welsh independence.
Yeah, or let's have a referendum so London can rejoin the European Union.
Yeah, it's mad.
So he can't actually say that, though.
That wasn't a joke.
I know, I know.
The capital city of the United Kingdom breaking away and rejoining the European Union would be madness, but then so is, like, Welsh independence.
Like...
This is crazy, right?
So this is an independent commission on the constitutional future of Wales, which is just like, what?
Which was set up as a part of a deal between Welsh Labour government and Plaid Cymru, right?
So, great.
What was the Welsh Conservative response?
Not, this is immoral.
Not, this is going to destroy the Union.
They said, quote, it's a waste of time and resources.
Brilliant.
Well, that's going to stop them, isn't it?
There's one thing that Labour and Plaid Cymru don't give a damn about, it's wasting time and resources.
Yeah, and it's funny how they've argued about 52-48 on Brexit all this time.
I think 51% of the Welsh voted to be independent on a 50% turnout.
So 25% of Wales want this.
Oh yeah, the average voting for the Welsh Assembly is something like 35%.
Yeah, no one cares.
Two-thirds of the Welsh just do not turn out for this, right?
So, you know, there's a pathetic response from the Conservatives.
They should be calling it out as essentially the French Revolution that it clearly is, right?
But they're like, oh, well, the way things are at the moment, it's just not viable.
It's like, I agree, get rid of the devolved parliaments.
So they've got what they call pressure points on the current system, which include, quote, an imbalance of power between the UK and Welsh governments.
Well, there's an imbalance of money.
And what I would like to do with all of this is end the Barnet formula.
Well, obviously, but like, just think about the way they phrase that.
There's an imbalance of power.
One of the problems that they have is an imbalance of power between the Welsh Assembly and the government of the United Kingdom.
Which they should be.
Yeah.
You are a subsidiary of the government of the United Kingdom.
Yeah.
Like, this province is like, well, why aren't I as powerful as the capital?
It's because you're a province.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like saying, why aren't Nottingham Forest as equal as Manchester City?
Yeah.
Where do we start?
Exactly.
And it's like, you know, there are less people, there's less money, there's less heritage, there's less power.
There's less authority?
Yeah.
Like, you are not, like, the government of the country.
And so they're sat there going, well, the UK and Welsh governments aren't equal.
Well, duh.
Like...
But anyway, so they've got three options they want to go through.
One, entrenching devolution, or the second one would be a federal structure, again.
Or the third would just be independence, which is just, I think that's brilliant.
I want Welsh independence.
I'm for it.
Good luck.
I mean, you were talking about the Barnett formula.
We wouldn't have to give them a penny, would we?
Yeah, I'm a big believer in allowing everybody to vote on this.
Let the English vote on Scottish independence too.
Because I think we're so bored of being abused by the spouse, we'd actually vote for divorce.
I think we would.
And then be careful what you wish for, is all I'm saying.
But no money, no maintenance.
Exactly, nothing.
Build a wall.
But the only people in all of this who aren't crazy are the Northern Irish, who, when asked, twice as many Northern Irish voters have said they want to remain part of the UK than join a United Ireland.
Because, I mean, look at the way Ireland's being run.
And that's part of the issue around Brexit, around the Northern Ireland protocol.
They know, everyone knows, that Northern Ireland is still intrinsically welded to Britain.
And that is why they have to throw it under the bus.
Twice as many...
We'd rather stay.
And, of course, the Irish are like, yeah, we want Northern Ireland, so of course you do.
But who cares?
But anyway, the reunification can only happen, of course, if a majority in both Northern Ireland and the Republic agree with it.
Yeah, that won't happen.
No, but the point is, the Labour government's next plan is going to result in the destruction of the United Kingdom.
Honestly, as an Englishman...
I think a lot of people are starting to feel the same.
When I was on telly during the IndyRef 1, I was a proper unionist.
Yeah, I was.
I'm a proper unionist.
But now it's getting to points like how long can we be told we're terrible while bankrolling all this nonsense?
Yeah, exactly.
There's a part of me that wants to be like, okay, we'll just start cutting the strings.
Sorry, Scotland, you've got your own problems.
Sorry, Wales, you've got your own problems.
We're not paying for it anymore.
Yeah, yeah.
And stand on your own two feet.
No sterling.
No more Barnet Formula.
Let's see how you get on.
Yeah.
Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
He's my mum!
All my uncles and my grandpa will be there in the forest.
Every year all the men from my family go camping.
This will be my mom's first time.
Or didn't I tell you?
My mom is a he.
My mom's name is David.
He used to be a she, but now he is a he.
Last year he did this thing called transition.
He took some medicine which made his voice deeper and started wearing different clothes.
I love you, mom.
Amazing.
Yeah, what do you say to that?
Again, it's back to that normalisation of alternative lifestyles.
God, get back in my cave, mate.
Honestly, I can't take it.
I'm just like, right, just reject it all.
It's incessant, though, isn't it?
It's literally endless.
Non-stop lies is what it is.
Sorry, should we go to the next one?
If the Twitter files teach us anything, it's that the rot in the media can be traced back, in large part, to Watergate.
Imagine being able to publish a story with such corruption and collusion from readily available files to make the case against and topple the president.
Since then, journalists and the media have craved the next gate scandal.
Yeah, I've got nothing to add to that.
That was exactly right.
Yeah, I mean, the kind of selective myopia and blindness on the Hunter Biden stuff, the Twitter files, by the left, by the liberal left, has been astonishing.
It confirms many of us, and I've been a journalist 27 years, Cole, that they've so utterly lost their way, journalistically, irrespective of who they want to back.
The pursuit of the truth is dead.
It's entirely agenda-driven now.
It's just openly and nakedly political at this point.
They know exactly what they're doing.
Specifically engaging in these kind of conspiracy of silence is to ensure that the public doesn't know what they ought to know.
Yeah, precisely.
And that affects it.
If you look at some of the Jack Posobics, you know, Biden getting in would mean no Afghanistan.
Yeah.
These proper wars and tragedies that occurred as a consequence of the silence around that.
Yeah.
And there was polling that suggested that if people knew about Hunter Biden's laptop, that he wouldn't have won.
Precisely.
And Trump would still be in.
And that is actually why they did it.
Yeah.
A conspiracy of silence to affect the outcome of democratic elections, which actually weren't democratic.
That's not a conspiracy.
No.
It's been proven to be true.
Well, that's what Elon Musk has shown us.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, let's go to some written comments.
George Hap says, I really appreciate Mr.
Dordney.
He's one of the few politicians who actually cares about men and boys and is brave enough to associate with men's rights advocates.
Thank you for your service.
Very kind, very kind.
And I still do talk about that a lot, especially around educational outcomes.
There was a report out this week about one in seven, I think.
Young people don't even want to go to work, and I've always been a huge advocate of the fact that white working class boys are the least likely to get to university.
Keir Starmer, if he really cared about the working classes, would be addressing that, but he can't.
He cannot address the real issues because it would be divisive and racist.
Lord Nerevar says, I just want to drop in and say I really appreciate and respect Martin Daubney.
I, for one, would be happy to have him on as many times as he likes.
Well, I'm definitely happy to come back.
Thank you.
So let's have a quick conversation about how you think Nigel Farage is going to take the current political environment.
I was out with Nigel for the USA-England game.
We managed to stay awake for that.
It was a terrible football match.
But he's certainly somebody who has a huge amount of leverage in terms of the spectre that hovers.
And I think he will come back.
And I think that's going to be precipitated by what's happening stateside.
So it's been a bad week for Donald Trump.
And it's looking less likely that President Trump will become President Trump again.
Ron DeSantis has, I think, most of the good ideas and less of the baggage.
It's a pretty obvious thing to say.
But that has a direct implication for Nigel, because I think Nigel would have been advising Donald.
And why not?
He'd get a lot of money from that.
So with that out of the way, and what's going on here, politics is all about timing, is what Nigel says.
And all these Tory desertions, or people who aren't standing again, people like Matt Hancock, Savvy Javi, they know they're going to get annihilated, so they're basically jumping off before they get shoved.
What we need to happen, though, are for a couple of defections.
So standing conservatives across the floor to reform.
Yes.
There is lots of backroom shenanigans going on.
I mean, that's been public knowledge.
It's been leaked out to the Sun, to the Mail.
Well, just before you carry on, I saw a graph, you know, the prediction graphs that they make.
And they were saying, look, if the election was held tomorrow with this sort of polling, the Conservatives would go from something like 380 MPs to something like 116 MPs.
Yeah, it'd be a wipeout.
But it's not just a wipeout, is it?
That is...
A catastrophe.
So many careers ended.
There are lots of conservatives, and I say that word as in true conservatives, who actually think it's so bad now, we need to have that forest fire.
It's got to be that bonfire, just to burn it back and absorb the pain.
But the problem is, as you just outlined there, Carl, power will be devolved to cities and towns, and the lords will go, and Starmer is clever.
On that front, because he would change the landscape, so even if the Tories get back in, it'd be too late.
The towns would be controlled by Labour.
Nigel knows that, and...
I know he's talking to donors, and if a good chunky donor comes in, and we have a couple of defections, and Trump doesn't stand...
Yeah, the momentum starts going.
There's nobody out there that can sort of calcify and unite the political right like him.
There's a lot of talk about alliances, allegiances on the right, heritage, reclaim, reform, UKIP. It won't happen.
No, of course not.
It won't happen.
And also, it's not the answer.
The answer is a Farage return.
And even though he's never succeeded in getting anybody elected, apart from that one UKIP in 2015...
Things are different now.
This time, it's different.
People are so sick of the establishment.
This idea of, well, if you split the vote, you let Labour in.
Who cares?
They're all the same.
They're getting in anyway.
They're coming anyway.
That's right.
So why not do something different?
I think he'll come back, and I think...
I probably will get back into it myself.
Well, I hope so.
Because we need people who are literally going to destroy the Conservative Party.
They deserve to die as a party for what they've done to this country and for the total betrayal of the patriotic people of this nation.
They deserve it.
And those of us who at the time were called brextremists, when we said fishing has been betrayed, Northern Ireland has been betrayed, so has the ECJ, the European Court of Human Rights, that's behind all the problems now with Albania and the illegals.
And they all knew.
They all knew that at the time, and we said that at the time, but if you're explaining, you're losing.
If you're into detail, you've lost.
That's exactly right.
But the Conservatives have this all in their manifestos.
Oh, we're going to get immigration into the tens of thousands.
We're going to leave the European Court of Human Rights.
It's like, okay, why have you done nothing?
Why have you done nothing?
It's because it's all lies.
The Conservatives are just full of it.
They want the Labour plan.
But I think enough...
The Brexiteers who voted for the Tories in 2019 now see the truth that they won't vote for the Tories again.
So all you've got to do is get a beachhead.
Look at the Green Party.
I mean, every party is the Green Party now.
But the Green Party only ever had Caroline Lucas.
One MP. Bryson.
Changed the landscape.
The Independent Republic of Bryon.
But if that could be achieved...
We need to find the most based and Brexiteer area of the country.
Skegness at the moment.
Get Nigel in there.
Skegness right now.
It's got hotels being closed.
Albanians dumped on it.
Locals can't get a doctor's appointment.
Places like that that were massive Brexit towns anyway.
Places like that, we can make a change.
It's exciting.
Someone's got to step up and try and help the country again because if...
Keir Starmer's Labour is the future.
Net zero madness where the working class are impoverished and called racist.
It's the abolition of Britain.
The complete destruction of this country and its traditions and history.
And to overrun the country with more immigrants.
I mean, like, come on.
Yeah.
And to be positive, there are a huge amount of people out there, ordinary people that we used to meet during the Brexit party that summer of 2019.
I interviewed hundreds of candidates.
We found incredible candidates, taxi drivers, dinner ladies, teachers, nurses, carers, ordinary citizens, veterans who were passionate about politics.
That's the political revolution we need.
Ordinary people, patriots, to stand up and be counted.
So if you're watching, just get involved and stay positive.
I think there is hope.
What do we do?
There's just despair.
There's hope, but it's really coming down to the wire.
We've got two years.
It's not long.
No, it's not long.
It's not long.
It's not long at all, especially in politics.
Let's go for some more comments.
The French says...
I love that your username is The French.
It's not that smartphones are addictive.
It's apps and websites built to keep you on them longer, manipulating you to do so.
That is true, but the problem with smartphones is the unlimited access to the internet.
If you had nothing to do on a smartphone...
Sure.
But it's also, you know, it's games, the internet, apps.
So they are essentially one and the same at this point.
Yeah.
It is true that algorithms work out what kind of porn you like and give you more of that.
On Instagram, or you like motorbikes, or you like whatever, it gives you more and more.
But unless you switch it on and participate...
Yeah.
I mean, you were never addicted to the old Nokia brick phones because they barely did anything.
Yeah.
But that's the thing.
We'd have to go back to the dumb phones, basically.
And honestly, I think that giving, having, like, the government saying, no, children can only have phones that don't have access to the internet, for example, would be a really good step forward.
Because then, well, what are they addicted to?
Yeah, well, certainly in schools.
My cousin's missus is a headteacher in London, and she won't allow any phones at all in school.
Good for her.
And she said discipline has improved, there's been much less drama, much less arguments, much less bullying, much less fighting.
It's really quite straightforward, but you've just got to put your foot down.
Totally agree.
Charlie says, anytime we go to a cafe, I'm always shocked by the number of people, especially the younger ones, at a table, on their phones, barely saying two words to each other.
Reminds me of the opium dens of 1800s China.
I actually wrote an article about this because I had to go and get a new phone for the office.
And I was in the local Vodafone store, and they had just this big poster on the wall being like, infinite social media.
I'm like, that's like going into an opium, infinite opium.
That's not good.
But that was the selling point, and it was just mad.
Yeah.
Colin says, I agree about smartphones.
An argument could be made for children of a certain age having a dumb phone, enabling them to contact a parent if needed, but that's about all in my opinion.
I think that's a really great middle ground.
Just don't, like I said before, just don't let them have them in their rooms.
My kids don't, and they won't have them in their rooms.
At the very least.
Just leave it there, where I can see it, charging overnight, and sod off.
Yeah, Omar makes a great point here.
Compounding the issue of smartphone and social media addiction is that most of the youth born today have no reference for a time without the internet.
If you've been drunk since you were born, how do you realise you're impaired?
Yeah, it's true.
That is entirely true.
And like I said, we were lucky, man.
We were lucky to come to this in our adulthood.
We have failed this generation.
No, I totally agree with that.
And when I was a kid, we'd sing hymns and we'd sing carols.
We weren't even Christian, but we had that unification.
We came around something, and it had a message that was true and about Christianity and the values that impaired.
And national identity has huge values, and that is British.
Or America, actually.
Any positive Western national identity has to be abolished.
It's just terrible.
I just can't get over it.
Anyway, America's in Hospice Care says, I send my kids to a private Christian school, which I work two jobs to pay for, and as much as I've been mocked by the few atheist friends I have for doing so, my kids come home with Bible homework in addition to their maths and science.
Yes, the bigoted type of science that says there are only two genders.
In addition, the school has a true open-door policy where parents are encouraged to come into the classroom unannounced and sit in on what's being taught.
The Christian school believes it must be held accountable and the parents and the church pastors are the best shepherds to help keep watch over all the students so it doesn't become infected with the woke world.
Honestly, I'm at the point where I'm like, yeah, I'd rather Christianity than wokeism.
Yeah, and another really interesting point about that, Cole, I looked into the curriculum, particularly things like the trans toolkits, which are now being mandated in places like Brighton.
All the worst ideas seem to start in Brighton.
But it's going to be rolled out from this academic year, and it will be a pilot scheme which will be rolled out everywhere.
And if you, as a parent, ask to see what's on the curriculum, quite often schools won't even tell you.
So I would encourage everybody out there, if you think...
Your child is being indoctrinated.
You have the power to ask them and demand, what are you teaching my child?
And they have to tell you.
And I think that's part of the revolution that we need.
Parents got to step up if they're concerned.
Like they're doing in America right now.
Precisely.
And I love all those videos of the school boards, the guys saying, I don't want to teach my child's black.
Stop telling him that he's oppressed.
He's not oppressed.
We need more of that in Britain.
So more access, but stronger voices.
And schools have to listen if you cause a stink.
Yeah.
The American parents, man, they've been doing the Lord's work.
They're fabulous.
Yeah.
George says, Well, that's the point, isn't it?
He didn't feel the need to go to any of the school donors or tell anyone that, actually, I'm going to give your 14-year-old a massive dildo to learn how to use.
He seemed pretty confident.
Well, the school came down in his defence.
He knew he was doing the right thing.
And they know that that's going to be the case as well.
They know that the school will take the position of fear and they will allow this to happen in plain sight.
That's part of the problem.
The minority interest is now the majority rule.
If you speak out, you get cancelled.
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?
The idea that...
It just sounds like a joke.
It sounds like a Monty Python skit.
It's like, well, we're going to teach children how to use butt plugs.
And if the parents complain, I know the school will back me on this.
That's madness.
It's got to the point where you could not have made this up, even five years ago.
No, yeah.
You couldn't have presaged this, could you, really?
Yes.
Anyway, let's move on to the plan to kill Britain.
Sophie says, British farmers are currently warning when it reloads...
Food supply issues.
Yeah, there's going to be a food shortage coming spring and summer.
Yeah, and part of this, by the way, is the supermarkets.
And they just annihilate farmers in terms of suppressing the price of their produce.
The egg shortage is all being, it's Brexit, or it's avian flu.
But the supermarkets are forcing the unit price of eggs down so hard that farmers are just leaving the industry.
When I was campaigning in North Shropshire this time last year, I heard this all over the rural communities.
Dairy farmers just jacking it in.
Hen farmers jacking it in.
Because people are so used to cheap stuff, the farmers are expected to lose money.
Well, there's no way to build an economy.
It's nonsense.
Yeah.
Who was it?
It was Gerry Clarkson the other day.
He said, well, food is actually too cheap in this country.
Yeah.
He is actually right.
And that, back to Brexit, that is why the industry was so reliant on cheap labour.
Now it's work-shy Britain.
Whereas we were saying, pay people a fair working wage to pick your stuff, to harvest your stuff.
That used to be a left-wing position.
Yeah.
Okay, fine.
Fruits may become more expensive.
Yeah, that will happen because the market has been artificially deformed by incredibly cheap imports and incredibly cheap labor.
That's not how it naturally would be.
And when all of these avenues, because of the deglobalization that's happening now with things like the Russia-Ukraine war and stuff like that, when this all happens, you're going to have to get used to it because it's going to happen inevitably anyway.
People are so used to getting raspberries in January.
Yeah, for a pound.
Yeah, for a quid from Morocco.
Yeah, it's mad.
That's become the norm.
Yeah.
Whereas we were much more in connection with the seasons.
Didn't have that when I was a kid.
Yeah, local stuff.
And we got by.
Yeah, of course we didn't die.
Summer stuff came in summer and the rest of the time you got by.
And that is what they don't want to break that cycle because it fuels the cheapness and it suppresses wages and it's bad for Britain.
Yeah.
Edward of Woodstock makes a great point about Keir Starmer here.
What the hell is a knight, as in Sir Keir Starmer, telling us he wants to destroy the House of Lords?
Sir Keir Starmer, the face of socialist Britain.
Yeah.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Oh, it drives me mental.
It really does.
Anon says, even in Labour's league table, something happened after the 1990s.
What happened?
This is an ongoing joke about...
What was it?
Tom Harwood's Something Happened in the 1990s and causes house prices to spike and wages to stagnate.
No one knows why.
It's obviously mass immigration.
Yeah, could it be Tony Blair opening the floodgates to the E8? Yes, it was.
And there were loads of papers written by Labour advisors at the time, and I bring this up all the time on telly, that that's when things changed.
And actually, Blair was the foundation stone of Brexit, which should make him have sleepless nights.
Yeah, no, no.
For anyone who doesn't know, basically, Nigel started with UKIP in, what was it, 1992 or something like that?
But it was on the back burner.
It wasn't something that, you know, the situation in the country was actually relatively stable and prosperous.
I mean, in 1992, like, Farage was operating from a point of principle, right?
Because, like, the average house price was only four times a yearly wage and things like that.
So things were actually going quite well.
But come the end of the 2000s, after a decade of labour, and the average house price had gone to ten times what the yearly wage was, and everyone was feeling the pressure, Brexit seemed much more imminent in people's lives.
And it kind of staggers me, Carl, that more young people aren't concerned about immigration.
They don't have any thoughts of their own futures at all.
Not from a kind of philosophical point of view, but a supply and demand point of view.
Oh, I can't afford to buy a house.
I can't get a job.
People like Tom, actually, who's now a colleague.
I say to him, why aren't you more concerned about the fact that if we import a million people a year, which we did last year, There's more demand for the house, so you can't afford to buy one.
Why aren't you peed off about that?
And if you're a young person, why aren't you annoyed that, like, your avenues to career development, which would have been going in at a sort of entry level in your early 20s, and then working your way up the career ladder, well, they're being occupied by foreign workers now.
Why aren't you worried about that?
And Keir Starmer, his philosophical opposition to private schools, he's going to remove the VAT. He probably went to a private school as well.
Well, how many Labour MPs' kids do answer quite a lot.
They all do, yeah.
The fact of the matter is, if you understand the public school system, I went to a comprehensive, but I'd like, c'est la vie, do what you want.
I talk in a lot of private schools, and I see hard-working Indian families, whatever, Scrimp together everything to get their kids into a good school.
And those people won't be affected by the VAT change, because it will still be filled with Chinese kids and Russian kids coming in, because that is the landscape of private education in Britain.
It will affect the hard-working aspirational...
They're addicted to foreign money.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the problem.
It won't change anything.
It will just allow the richest to buy the service still, and it will suppress the hard-working, upper-working classes, middle-classes.
And they used to be Labour voters.
The native, like, aspiring classes in Britain are being actively held back by this woke neoliberal paradigm.
And for some reason, they won't ever argue in their own interest.
It's like, no, you're okay to do that.
It's acceptable.
I mean, like, the French youth are massively anti-immigration because they can see what the problem is.
They can see, oh, God, all of this competition is brought in.
The house prices are through the roof.
You know, the country's going to hell.
Why can't we have Le Pen?
And in this country, they're insanely woke and left-wing.
It's like, well, then it's your future.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the same in Italy with Maloney, and we saw the same in Sweden.
And I think Le Pen will get in next time, or somebody like her will get in because the societal change has been so dramatic in France.
I mean, France has completely changed.
Things are getting so bad.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, you don't even recognise Paris anymore.
Same as London.
One last quick comment from catastrophic regression threshold.
Well, that's good, but the pressure will start piling on.
Yeah, and as I said, you know, it's one thing in a workplace, but this is happening in an ordinary state school that my lad goes to.
I have one of the school my daughter goes to.
And they're so concerned about being labelled as a transphobe, as a homophobe, as a racist, whatever.
They comply through fear.
Weirdly, my daughter seems to have embraced her.
Is that right?
Your daughter?
I thought she'd be the most immune to that.
No, no, embraced being a transphobe.
Good.
All right.
That's what I thought.
Someone called her gay and she's like, I'm straight in the pole your mum dances on.
Oh my god, okay, fair enough.
You taught her well, mate.
I didn't even mean to.
Anyway, Martin, where can people go to follow you?
So, I'm now presenting GB News Breakfast on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
That's 6 till 9.30.
I kind of staggered into that because I've always been the sort of bridesmaid from the pub.
No, I've staggered into that because I've known Eamon Holmes for years.
Eamon is physically not well at the moment.
He's got a bad back.
So I'm kind of covering for him.
That's been quite a leap.
They just chucked me in the other Sunday and I got on with it.
I'm now becoming pretty regular there.
So what I'm trying to do is just bring a bit of this kind of common sense, a bit more working class attitude, a bit of Brexit, talking straight about immigration, talking straight about...
The things we're talking about today.
Actually representing the issues that real people want represented.
Yeah, and I think that GB News will have a big impact on the next general election.
That is why people on the Liberal left are so against it.
Because when it first launched and everyone said, oh, it's going to be like Fox News in Britain.
Oh, God, please.
And I was like, yes, yes, it should be like that.
Yeah.
Of course we have Ofcom, so we have balance, so we have to, and that's normally somebody else sat next to me saying, well, hang on.
And that's fine, because that is balance.
And we get Labour ministers on, and we grill them, and we get Tory ministers on, and we grill them.
But what's missing, what has been missing, and the BBC and Sky, when it was sold to Comcast, changed beyond recognition.
It no longer represented Brexiteers and working classes, and net zero as the religion, woke as the religion, anti-racism as the religion, and...
Ordinary working people, taxpayers, hard-working people just lost their voice.
GB News has filled that slot and it's growing and it's doing great.
So Tuesdays, Wednesdays I'm on.
I might be on more often in the future.
Nigel Farage is on there.
He's the biggest rater.
7 o'clock each weekday.
So it's finding its way.
And I just about lost faith in journalism.
After 27 years, I qualified in 1994.
Just about lost faith, and I thought, what's the point?
And then this has come along and given me a bit of hope.