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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters for Monday, the 5th of December 2022.
	I'm joined by Kelly J. Keene.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Good afternoon.
	Hello.
	And we're going to be talking about how Scotland is trying to abolish gender, how the Balenciaga scandal keeps getting worse and worse, and we're going to take a trip down Canada's slippery slope into eugenics.
	Nice.
	Progressive policy in 2022.
	It's only one of the major pillars of the Western world.
	Just...
	Insane.
	Feeling depressed?
	Why don't you just kill yourself, says Trudeau.
	I'm joking.
	That sounds so frivolous, but it's not even a joke.
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	Anyway, let's get into it.
	It seems that Scotland is trying to abolish gender because...
	No reason.
	Well, wokeism.
	We all know.
	We all know that Scotland is just, it's unironically a woke tyranny at this point.
	And I've spent a lot of time thinking, why is it the Celts have become incredibly woke?
	Have you seen like Sinn Féin being like, we need to, we were fighting for transgender rights.
	I think it's just an extension of misogyny.
	That's why.
	And I think they were already pretty misogynist.
	And that's a terrible word to use, I'm sure, in this setting.
	It's not a terrible word to use.
	I think it's not as explanatory as it could be, possibly.
	Well, I just think if you really hate women so much, then of course you don't know what one is.
	And they can be discounted.
	They're just men without penises.
	But why aren't I joining them if they're all about misogyny?
	Maybe you're reformed.
	I don't think I am.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe you should.
	Anyway, the Scots have gone incredibly woke, and as everyone knows, there's nothing new to say.
	But they've brought about a bill called...
	What was the actual...
	Gender Recognition Bill.
	Which is ironic as it will actually lead to the complete dissolving of any boundaries between the genders at all, leading to what is essentially the abolition of gender.
	How do you feel about this?
	Well, for a start, I never use the word gender because I think it's a nonsensical word that doesn't really describe anything.
	So I always use the word sex.
	And then we all know what we're talking about.
	And that's the really interesting thing about all of these bills is they use the word gender.
	So gender recognition bill, there's no actual definition of the word gender beyond gender.
	The sort of switching between sex and gender, but then they'll say that gender is not the same as sex.
	And they always make the mistake as well, going, I'd like my gender on my passport.
	It's just sex on your passport.
	Yeah, of course.
	Gender is just ridiculous.
	Nobody knows what it is.
	It's either sex stereotypes, which is bonkers because then you're saying that somebody who's quite a masculine sort of presenting woman is no longer a woman, that her gender is something else.
	So, yeah, I think the quicker we lose the word gender, the quicker we'll all be in a much more sane and common sense place.
	Wasn't it coined by John Money?
	I think so.
	And it's been propagated by like academic feminists.
	So they will talk about the fact that the only reason I behave in the way that I behave is because it's a social construction, which is the most ridiculous idea.
	I behave like this because I'm both five foot one and a woman.
	I don't think if I was six foot, I would have quite the same personality.
	I think that's probably true.
	So I thought before we began looking at it, I would talk about my view on what a woman is.
	Because, of course, I know what your definition is.
	And this is, I think, the core of what it is to be a woman.
	So I wrote this long article, which I will summarize.
	I think there are at least four aspects to being a woman.
	I think there's the essential aspect, which is adult human female.
	And then you have on top of that kind of relational aspect, as in how that means you relate to men in society.
	And I think that actually you framed, you sort of pre-stated this for saying, well, look, I'm a five foot one woman.
	And therefore, like, there needs to be a set of expectations in society that are understood by both men and women.
	You know, so, you know, as you found at your latest attempt to have a speech in New York...
	You've got a bunch of transgender women crushing the hands or whatever it is of biological women, biofemmes?
	I don't know.
	And this obviously violates this kind of relational aspect.
	Men shouldn't be violated.
	Yeah.
	Because there's an inherent physical advantage to being a man that women don't have.
	And so I think that's definitely an aspect.
	And then on top of that, as I've just said, we move into sort of a normative aspect, as in what should be and shouldn't be done because of this relational aspect.
	And that means that a woman should do these things and a man should do those things.
	And these are all...
	Essentially traditional stereotypes, but they're there for a reason, because they actually have a necessary requirement in order to make sure that we live in a harmonious society where people aren't being mistreated.
	And then on top of that, I think there's, from all of this, you get the aesthetic aspect, which is wearing makeup, which is wearing earrings, and leaning, looking pretty.
	But conversely, as a man, it would be shameful for me to wear makeup and try to look pretty.
	The aesthetics of manliness are different.
	And so you can see how these things are built on top of one another.
	And so it is that the core of a woman is being an adult human female, but then also to behave in a certain way and then to have a certain set of ethics and then to have a certain set of looks.
	And as soon as you start expanding out that way, you can see that transgenderism is a kind of reverse colonization of womanhood because they always begin by dressing as a woman.
	And then they try to say, well, now you have to treat me as a woman.
	Now the normative aspect on me and on you is to treat them as a woman.
	And then it's like, right, now allow me into women's spaces, the relational aspect, because of the biological necessity that was already established.
	Now let me into the woman's space.
	And then, finally, and I don't know whether you've seen them talking about this, but we're going to have fake wounds.
	I have, yeah.
	So eventually they intend to drill down to the very biological foundations and a kind of reverse colonization of what it is to be a woman.
	So the final frontier of transgenderism is for a man to give birth.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I mean, at the moment, they like to try and lactate and breastfeed children, babies.
	So it's pretty gross.
	Yes, it is pretty gross.
	So that's my feeling.
	Because, you know, Matt Walsh was like, well, what is a woman?
	I was like, okay, well...
	Actually, I think conservatives or just non-WOCists need an answer to this.
	And I think that if you sort of lay all these things out, all these things are intrinsically connected and do derive from the position of the biology of it.
	It's got to be about reproduction.
	It's got to be an adult human female.
	And it all extends out.
	And then also it gives us a way of actually identifying what it is the transgender movement is trying to do, which is, again, essentially a form of colonization.
	I mean, it's very difficult, isn't it?
	Because if I just stick to a woman as an adult human female, right, that's it.
	Because there are plenty of women that are still women that don't behave in a stereotypical female way.
	I would say I probably don't behave particularly female or kind of...
	Submissive and feminine and some of those other associated behaviours, but then I dress very feminine.
	But there are many types of stereotype.
	One type is the Karen.
	Yes.
	You're saying I'm a Karen?
	Not 100% full-fledged.
	But there's definitely, and I think this comes from the normative and relational aspects of being a woman.
	The stereotype for Karen is a woman who's like, look, I'm a woman and I deserve and I need.
	And the only reason that they do that is because they know that other people in society recognize that as a legitimate expectation.
	Right.
	Because, I mean, what's this five-foot-nothing woman actually threatening people with?
	Nothing, really, other than social shaming that everyone knows you should do this because these are the way that things always work.
	And so it's...
	You can hear Daisy cackling in the background.
	I wonder if she's listening.
	But I'm not wrong, am I, Daisy?
	And so it's not that there's only one stereotype of what it is to be a woman.
	In the same way, there's not only one stereotype of what it is to be a man.
	There are lots of different sort of dispositions.
	And so I wouldn't say that you're unwomanly or anything like that.
	No, I wouldn't say that either.
	But even to be forthright is not unwomanly.
	There's a way in which a woman is forthright often.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	I mean, look, it's an uncomfortable conversation when I know a broad spectrum of women to start talking about women, a layer of womanhood is the way that we behave, and yet I'm fully aware, without seeing anybody's biological sex, when I'm in the company of just women or just men.
	Everyone is.
	So it's very...
	Yes, it's right.
	But there's something I'm uncomfortable with about what you're saying, and I can't quite pinpoint it.
	But as soon as I do, I'll carry it right out.
	I would love to hear it.
	Because I'm totally open for criticism on this.
	I'm trying to give a non-woke study on the thing.
	But I totally agree with you as well.
	As soon as you've got a room full of men, and a woman walks in the door, the atmosphere changes completely.
	And I'm sure it's the same way when you've got a room full of women.
	Yeah.
	A man walks in.
	So it is something instinctual.
	But this is what I'm talking about with the sort of relational aspect.
	It is there.
	There's definitely something there and you can feel it.
	You know, the atmosphere changes.
	Yeah.
	And you certainly can feel it when somebody doesn't adhere to those social norms.
	So when...
	If a man...
	If you saw someone in the street and a man's shouting or swearing at a woman, then that feels really bad.
	Probably more so if a woman was shouting and swearing at a man.
	100%.
	There's an implication there, isn't there?
	If a man's losing his temper with a woman, well...
	What's he doing at home?
	Exactly.
	You know, she's probably not.
	I mean, let's not say in all cases.
	I mean, there are definitely women who abuse men, obviously.
	But the...
	Not enough.
	No, I'm joking.
	I'm joking.
	I love that misogynists and misogynists sit down for a conversation.
	Anyway, let's get back on to how misogynies are a good thing.
	With the gender recognition bill in the Scottish Parliament...
	So this is the Scottish government's latest attempt to erase women.
	Now, you know, as much as I might hate women, I don't want them dissolved or liquidated like some sort of Kulak class, unlike the Scottish National Party, quote-unquote.
	So I read through this bill and it seems to me that it's point 17, which is where the major changes are coming from the existing law.
	So they say the key differences between the current grounds and procedure and those provided for in the bill are a reduction in the minimum age of applicants from 18 to 16, the removal of GRP from the process with applications made instead to the Registered General for Scotland, A reduction in the period in which the applicant must have lived in their acquired gender before submitting an application from two years to three months.
	Three months?!
	You've just got to wear a skirt for three months lads.
	I've had hairstyles that have had longer...
	Anyway.
	Anyway.
	The introduction of a mandatory three-month reflection period, which is a small barrier, and a requirement for the applicant to confirm at the end of the period that they wish to proceed with the application, and something else.
	But the important bit that I skipped over at the beginning there is the removal of the requirement for an applicant to have or have had gender dysphoria, and correspondingly the removal of the requirement for an applicant to provide medical reports with their application.
	Well, you can be a fully-fledged AGP, basically, autogynophile, which is the motivation for most men who claim to be women.
	And so, of course, they're going to remove it.
	Otherwise, how are these men going to get their rocks off if they have to pretend?
	They've got gender dysphoria, which again uses this word gender, which is nonsensical.
	Sure, but I think the American Psychological Association actually changed it recently, but I do believe it's still listed as a mental disorder in the British.
	And so they changed it due to activist pressure, if anyone's wondering.
	And so, it is a mental illness, and of course, anyone with a mental illness should be treated sympathetically.
	But this seems to be perhaps too sympathetic, as in, we're going to just let you do what you want.
	Well, look, most of these people don't have anything like a mental illness or gender dysphoria.
	They have an extraordinarily powerful fetish.
	And so, I mean, that's what it is.
	It's a paraphilia.
	And that's not necessarily women.
	It's just the way you frame it.
	I'm trying to be a bit more diplomatic about it.
	You're like, no, they're just fetishists.
	I just don't feel like being diplomatic about the erosion of women's rights.
	Sure, okay, but I've got to put this on YouTube.
	Well, okay, this is my personal view.
	This does not reflect the view of Lotus Eaters.
	I'm joking, we're not going to put this on YouTube.
	But, no, I think they have a fetish.
	I think they're very difficult to control.
	I think often we know that paraphilias run concurrently with another paraphilia.
	It's very rare that you have one.
	So these men are...
	Significantly less safe than other men, particularly to be in women's spaces.
	And the removal of the requirement for the applicant to have any kind of diagnosis It's just gross.
	It doesn't make any sense besides allowing people that have watched far too much content on particular websites, allowing those people to do what they want and have carte blanche access to women's spaces.
	Well, that's exactly it, isn't it?
	Because, I mean, I think, I don't know what percentage of people who call themselves transgender have autogynephilia and what percentage are people who are genuinely suffering under a mental disorder, right?
	And I think that is a fair distinction to make.
	There are definitely, you know, I don't know what percentage.
	Maybe there's a kind of self-selection bias with the, because, you know, you being a And I know this from my own personal experience.
	Being a controversial person online means that you tend to get people who self-select to come and engage with you who perhaps aren't necessarily representative of a broader community.
	Yes.
	So it could be our perception because we're confrontational on the internet.
	I'm going to say 95%.
	Of the people who talk to you are like me.
	No, no, no.
	Like in research and stuff.
	I just...
	Maybe, but it doesn't matter what the percentage are.
	No, it doesn't.
	Because, you know, there is a constituency of people who are in need of actual help.
	And, okay, you know, whether you agree with it or not, at least having lived for two years in the identity that you feel you want to move into, I mean, that's a commitment, right?
	There's at least some commitment there.
	Whereas at the moment, you know, three months, you know, that's hardly any time at all.
	But also to have it so that there's no external validation as in, you know, an autogynophile might go to a doctor and say, look, I've been wearing this dress for three months.
	Now, are you going to sign me off into the women's bathroom?
	People are like, no, you're clearly just a pervert.
	Well, that's gone now.
	And so, you know, all they've done is actually remove the barrier that prevented the perverts from getting access to the same spaces where also the mentally ill people, you know, could also get into.
	And so it's, you know, the people who aren't predatory.
	And, you know, there's another argument to be made there, etc, etc.
	Let's not worry about that for now.
	But, okay, fine.
	That's an argument.
	But at least the predatory people are being specifically kept out because of the requirement of a doctor to say, you are suffering from this disorder or you are not suffering from this disorder.
	And the SNP are like, yeah, no, they're all, you know, let the perverts in.
	I mean, I think there should be gender recognition reform, and that is to scrap the entire legislation and not let anybody ever change official markers of sex recorded anywhere.
	And no men ever in women's spaces.
	That's the reform I'm looking for.
	We'll call that the sensible centrist position.
	But I appreciate that's your position, which is publicly known.
	Yes, it is.
	And so, yeah, whether you agree or not, I think the main issue really is just, honestly, why would you allow any pervert who can just dress as a woman to enter into these spaces?
	Why would you do that?
	I don't know.
	And it's women often that welcome them in, right?
	I mean, they don't say, hello, pervert, you can come in, but they sort of pretend that the most lovely, you know, women have this currency of being nice, right?
	I think men use nice as a strategy, but I think women do too.
	And women present niceness as a strategy in order to get social kind of kudos.
	It's just so mad that women, I've met women, they go, I don't mind transgender women in my space.
	And I was like, but I don't want men in spaces with my daughter or me.
	But also this particular bill, going back to the bill, 16 years old.
	Yeah.
	I mean, 18, I think, is too young already.
	Why do you need to keep lowering this?
	It's just a bit mad to go down to 16.
	But what I do like is it's a nationalist party that is doing all this woke stuff.
	Well, there's a particular clip of Nicola Sturgeon from a few years ago where she's on a stage and someone's like, so why the Scottish Nationalist Party?
	She literally just says, well, I wouldn't have called it that if I was founding the party.
	It was just a vehicle.
	She's not a nationalist, obviously.
	She's an internationalist woman.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, the Labour Party is, of course, backing Sturgeon in this.
	Mm-hmm.
	I mean, obviously.
	Well done, Keir Starmer.
	J.K. Rowling is not backing this, as one might imagine.
	No.
	She had previously donated over a million pounds to Labour, but now she's like, nah, never again, basically.
	Yeah.
	That's why they hate her so much.
	Yeah.
	Because she was a lefty, or is a lefty.
	She is, yeah.
	And she's now their, what was it, their sort of turf wicker man, you know.
	We're constantly burning effigies of J.K. Rowling.
	She's done so little for kids in the whole of the globe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, just, it's mental.
	But Nicola Sturgeon is being accused of rushing this through, holy rude, which obviously she is.
	Yeah, you wonder what is going on behind closed doors that is making her do this.
	Because I don't...
	I don't think it's that simple.
	When she got challenged the other day, there was someone in a meeting who started saying, shame on you.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	Yeah.
	So I just kind of wonder what it is that has got her so trapped in this particular kind of nonsense.
	Oh, by the way, when Keir's standing at the next election, I'm going to stand against Keir.
	Starmer.
	Really?
	Yeah, I was going to go against Cithard, but he's not been selected.
	Yeah, he didn't get it.
	So I'm going to stand against Starmer instead and force the man to talk about this issue.
	I looked at the demographics of Central Sheffield.
	Probably not the kind of demographic you'd expect.
	You would vote for a man in a dress.
	Anyway, yeah, so Sturgeon's saying, no, no, no, we're not rushing this through.
	It's just, you know, we're rushing this through.
	And the reason they're doing this, obviously, is because once something is in law, it's much more difficult to remove than it is getting it there.
	But, yeah, why they're all trapped in this woke paradigm is just...
	I don't know.
	I can only assume it's something to do with the sort of Celtic victim complex, where they're like, we've always been the victims of the English, and maybe this is lined up with, oh yeah, and the trans people have always been victims of the cis people, the gay people.
	I don't know.
	I think you can only...
	I think you really can only do this if you don't see women as fully human.
	Because that's why we can be totally ignored.
	That's why our concerns can be totally ignored.
	And I know that sounds like a proper...
	Well, you're making the case for the SNP, I mean.
	I'm just these, I swear to God.
	But the...
	You know, I just think if you really considered women in any way, shape or form, I don't think you'd be able to pretend that you think somebody...
	Who's like six foot five with a penis and a beard is also one of us.
	It just doesn't seem to make any sense that you can both care about women, recognise what a woman is and not recognise what a woman is.
	I think it's the social constructivist aspect of their view.
	But I think they're just detached from reality.
	I think everything they think is detached from reality.
	You know, they're like, oh, well, I mean, like with their view on immigration, it's like, well, we can just bring anyone across the world and they'll live here in a tolerant multicultural society.
	It's like, okay, but where has that happened?
	You know, these people believe totally different things.
	They act in totally different ways.
	And you're living in delusion, you know, and then they're like, okay, the six foot five guy with beard, well, if he calls himself a woman and is wearing a dress, you know, what more do I need?
	It's like, yeah, but that's just delusional.
	Yeah, it's scary stuff.
	And I don't believe anybody who says that they think that men can actually be women.
	I think it's a power play as well.
	There's got to be...
	It's kind of a humiliation ritual, right?
	Yeah.
	Because this is what a lot of people...
	I see in mentions and comments being like, no, this is just...
	A way of humiliating women.
	It's kind of...
	They seem to have a point on that, actually.
	Yeah.
	In fact, let's watch this clip of the interruption of the Zero Tolerance Scotland meeting because...
	Watch the people around that is going on.
	Let's watch it.
	Shame on you.
	You've commented this culture in Scotland that basically tells women are bigoted for standing up for women's rights.
	I see you, and thousands of women around Scotland see you as well.
	And those of you who are sitting here, complicit, keeping your mouths shut, while women have actually been raped by males who have self-induced women.
	And that's got nothing to do with trans rights, and I support trans rights, and have done for three decades now, and I'll continue to.
	So look at the expression on the faces of the girls who are sat there.
	They're all quite young women and they're all kind of looking down and looking sad.
	And it's like, what's wrong with these people?
	Well, Orwell talks about young women being like the worst for going along with this sort of, they would inform, they're more likely to inform and go along with this sort of stuff.
	I don't know what it is.
	I don't know whether it's fear or needing to be accepted.
	I have no idea, but their time will come.
	Their time will come.
	I think it's, I saw a lot of people calling those young women handmaids.
	Yeah, I think it's a bit unfair.
	I mean, I've never minded being outside of social groups and disagreeing, but there's not a lot of women that can do that.
	It's not for everyone, is it?
	Well, no, you do get ostracised.
	Those young women, if they spoke up then, they'd probably have no social group left by the time they got home.
	So I get it, but, you know, it's going to take a lot of brave middle-aged women to sort this out.
	No, I think that's absolutely true.
	Nicola Sturgeon after that had the woman removed from the room and said, quote, I do not, as I know this organisation does not, seek to close down anyone's freedom of speech.
	Yeah, brilliant.
	Which is why she was removed from the room.
	Well, once you can say a man, once you can say a woman has a penis, you can pretty much say anything.
	Well, apparently not.
	You can't say women don't have penises.
	That's true.
	I guess you're ejected from the Roman Council from everything online.
	That's nuts.
	But, you know, the eye of J.K. Rowling was on this, like Sauron.
	I assume that's how they view her.
	In spite of all careful predictions, the First Minister has been accidentally exposed to some freedom of speech.
	Surely heads will roll.
	True, actually.
	Absolutely true.
	But they always give, you know, the...
	Can I call you Tufts?
	Is that a slur?
	Well, it is for some people, but I don't mind.
	I wear it with pride.
	Right.
	So, yeah, I saw you on Piers Morgan being like, well, yes, I am a transport.
	What do I do now?
	What do I do now?
	I'm off the rails.
	Anyway, I always see people from the turf position saying, well, look, this is going to allow men into women's spaces, and it is going to allow predatory autogynophiles into women's spaces, which is dangerous.
	And, of course, the sturgeon position is, no, you're a bigot.
	But the thing is, we have the examples.
	The one we always draw up, just because it's such...
	I mean, it hits every point, is the example of Karen White, who...
	Wore a dress, did a hair like that, raped some children, and then was sent to a women's prison where she sexually assaulted two women for being sent to the men's prison.
	Yes, he did.
	I noticed your use of pronouns.
	I can't do such a thing.
	But yeah, I did a talk in Hollywood and we had a call from inside a women's prison.
	So an inmate called.
	She's got a rapist in her cell.
	So he raped and then claimed to be a woman in prison, gets moved to a women's prison and he's in with those women and she believes it's as a punishment.
	And in the UK, we spoke to a woman and she got refused parole on the basis that she misgendered a man who was naked in the shower block.
	Excited by all accounts.
	And when she talked to the prison staff and said he, she got privilege taken away and probation refused.
	So the only reason I use the pronoun she is, honestly, because I'm lazy.
	Okay, that's fine.
	You don't have to justify it.
	No, no.
	I don't care about misgendering at all.
	But the thing is, I don't know.
	Sometimes a lot of people go to quite extreme lengths to look feminine.
	It's just whatever the eye perceives.
	Yeah.
	You know, even though if I were to take any amount of time looking at him, I'd be like, well, obviously.
	I am looking at him now.
	But like, you know, the hair, the makeup, and I'm just like, okay, that's a she.
	Because that's just, you know, natural trigger.
	You know, obviously, you know, I don't think that.
	You don't have to justify yourself to me.
	Well, you know, I'm not normally talking to a hardliner.
	LAUGHTER So yeah, Scotland appears to be well on its way to abolishing gender differences or sex differences between men and women, at least in law, of course not in fact.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	Let's talk about the Balenciaga scandal because it keeps getting worse.
	So gross.
	It's disgusting and it's been kind of a meme for the past year.
	I've been like, well, I mean, the world probably is run by satanic cult pedos.
	And it's like, ha ha ha, how silly.
	And then this keeps happening.
	It keeps happening.
	It keeps happening.
	And it's like, right, okay.
	I mean, it was a meme, but they kind of seem to bring it to life.
	Yeah, it's the baby, like the baby soaked in kind of red paint and being carried that looks like blood.
	I mean, look, it could be that they think it's really edgy.
	Oh, yeah.
	It could be that, but then it's a bit gross, however you look at it.
	And I'm surprised it's not as quickly a death as Ratna, right?
	I would have thought that when this came out, everyone would say, I don't want to stock it, I don't want to sell it.
	But I was in a store yesterday and there was absolutely loads of stuff by this brand.
	Really?
	So, yeah, apparently it's not yet a terrible thing to put bondage gear on teddies and give it to kids.
	And as we go through this, you'll find out that that is by far the least of it.
	Oh, come on, let's have a look.
	Yes, it's going to be awful.
	But before we begin, if you want to support us, go over to Let's Seize.com, sign up, and listen to this book club I did with author Alexander Adams, who is an artist working in the art world, and oh yes, it's as bad as you might think.
	I won't spoil any of it, though, but it is genuinely awful.
	Anyway, let's begin.
	So just as you were saying, this scandal kicked off because, of course, one of the adverts had a teddy bear in leather bondage gear being held by a child.
	Strange decision.
	My daughter got selected to do an advert, right, quite a long time ago.
	It was for a terrible toy that...
	Anyway.
	And when we got there, she was about four, and they were two very competitive.
	Oh, my daughter's been doing it three months, and oh, my daughter did this, and...
	And after about, my daughter was supposed to put this car on this thing and then move it like this and the director wanted it like that, like her arm in a specific sort of movement and he didn't explain it very well and he told her three times and the third time he's a little bit sharp and I just said, you talk to her like that again and we'll just go home.
	And so he didn't and it was fine and we never did it again.
	It was a horrible experience but...
	Some parents were there, right, watching their kids have a bondage teddy bear, as well as all the other adults in the room, the people that signed it off, the people who thought it was a good idea, the people that got there.
	There were a lot of people that could have said at one point, really?
	Many adults were present, presumably including the parents, and none of them were like, yeah, this is wrong.
	I know there's been other kids, there's been other dolls that you dipped in something and their bondage gear was revealed.
	The whole thing is just terrible, right?
	But I think one of the things I've noticed is these are very carefully laid out sets that they take the pictures of.
	And so it's interesting what they choose to put in the background.
	because there is some sort of signaling that goes on.
	One of the, one of a different ad featured an office, a woman just in an office with her legs up on the table.
	But in the background, there was a reference to a Supreme court case on child porn that had been like printed out and propped up.
	What?
	This was the Supreme Court case called United States v.
	Williams for an ad showcasing a $3,000 purse, and that ruling upheld the constitutionality of convicting people for spreading child porn.
	It wasn't free speech.
	That's the picture.
	And so it's just like, why would that be in the background?
	And who's placed it there?
	Is it the photographer?
	It's the set designer.
	They have set designers for this.
	Because these are works of art, as far as they're concerned.
	And isn't that just really weird?
	It's really weird.
	And then you look at who Michael Borman is.
	And all of these people who are artists who take very strange and perverse pictures of things all the time.
	It's their entire careers.
	And I'm not saying I know anything about any of this, really.
	It's just, why?
	Yeah, when something's strategically placed and is not accidental, then there's clearly a reason.
	Yes, there's clearly a reason.
	You don't accidentally print out the first page of the 2008 Supreme Court decision that banned child porn.
	Because raping kids is so edgy.
	Well, I think to these people, actually, it is.
	Yeah, it probably is.
	And as parents, obviously, this is disgusting.
	What are you doing?
	I feel murderous, to be fair.
	I wish I'd prepared the segment about the death penalty, actually.
	It would have been good to get your opinion on it.
	I'd do it with my bare hands if anyone came near my kids.
	In 2021, 56% of people agreed with you.
	Most people agree with the death penalty.
	For some reason the politicians don't.
	Anyway, moving on.
	So this caused a lot of trouble because they were like, oh, you know, people were really upset by this.
	But interestingly, this same brand cut their ties with Kanye West after he wore a White Lives Matter t-shirt.
	So saying White Lives Matter, you're gone.
	But putting up, you know, weird bondage things with kids, that's acceptable.
	Oh, yeah.
	But anyway, before we move on to this, John, they gave the first apology on the 24th of November.
	We sincerely apologise for any offence our holiday campaign may have caused.
	Oh, that's good.
	It's a holiday campaign.
	It's just a Christmas campaign, isn't it?
	Our plush bear bags should not have been featured with children in this campaign, but they were.
	And it went through a big process of decision-making to get from the concept to the product.
	Of course.
	So no one at that point, no one thought that was wrong.
	Is that a bag they sell?
	Is it the bear bag?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	You know, some bear in bondage gear.
	Something ridiculous like that.
	I don't follow all this stuff, so I don't really know.
	But anyway, the second apology came four days later when they were like, well, it was never our intent to include this in our narrative.
	What narrative did you think you were creating?
	It makes it so different now that I know that it's their product because it's their advertising.
	I thought it was just incidental that the kids, you know, they were advertising something else or even kids were.
	But if that's the, and then the, oh, how do we sell our bags?
	I know, let's get some kids.
	That's difficult to explain beyond when you put kids around this sexual crap.
	Balenciaga says that it takes responsibility for the series of grievous errors.
	Series.
	Series of grievous errors that led to this.
	It was only detected when there was a massive public outcry about the sexualization of children as well.
	Weird.
	But anyway, they put out a third apology on the 2nd of December with the creative director responding, I want to personally apologize for the wrong artistic choice of concept.
	It's just a kid with a bondage bet.
	What's wrong with you?
	It's just the wrong choice of concept.
	A series of grievous errors.
	God.
	Just...
	It's very...
	It's just pushing it, isn't it?
	It's just pushing this out as quickly as they can.
	And obviously they've been doing lots of subtle things, I would think, for years that we've all kind of not noticed.
	And now everyone's going to be pouring through everything they've ever done.
	Yeah.
	Well, let's get into that.
	People have been finding weird, creepy symbolism in other photos.
	I've actually got one on here that I think you haven't got up here, John.
	But there was another one of a boy advertising something in a bedroom.
	But the thing is that what's in the bedroom...
	Do they have a photo at the top of the page on this one?
	No.
	Okay, weird that they've talked about it, but they don't have the picture.
	But anyway, there's a boy with a drawing of the devil next to him, like a black cult hood or something in this video.
	And then you've got a roll of tape on the floor that's the Balencia tape, but it has balls spent with two A's.
	On the roll of tape?
	And it's like, what sort of...
	Like, this is the picture, right?
	And, you know, so what sort of...
	Like, again, they have professionals who design these sets before the picture is taken.
	As you can see in the bottom left there, you can see the Baal and see a tape that's strewn around, but it's Baal with double A. It's like, okay, but that's going to get the internet conspiracy theorists going, well, that's talking about the Canaanite god of child sacrifice.
	Oh, well, yeah, it is then.
	That's exactly what it is.
	But what else is it going to be?
	Like, why have you spelt your own brand name wrong with a double A to dog whistle to Satan worshippers or something?
	What are you doing?
	Do you think, I mean, do you think they're genuinely into this or do you think that they just, do you think they're childless people that just super, super, I'll let you carry on.
	We'll keep going, shall we?
	So the next one is just, you know, a guy at a fashion show, like one of the models at a fashion show holding a dead fake baby carried in a bloody towel in a bag.
	Why are you doing this?
	What's the purpose of this?
	It's so repulsive.
	Yes.
	You can see the bloodstains and stuff.
	So what are you doing?
	He doesn't look very comfortable either.
	No.
	No.
	Why?
	Why do you have a fake baby with presumably fake bloodstains?
	Are the clothes particularly bad?
	Is that why they need this?
	I have no idea.
	No, me neither.
	It's just disgusting.
	Anyway, you get people like Nicolas Desjardins, who is a set designer.
	And as you can see, a professional set designer.
	It's these sort of people who put the things in the background, right?
	But look at just the tenor.
	If you can scroll through some of these things.
	Look at the tenor of the arts they produce.
	And you think, right, okay.
	These are people who are living quite outside of the normal paradigm of a normal person.
	I mean, everything they show is debauchery or suffering, misery.
	It's nothing good and wholesome.
	Keep going, John, because that's supposed to say something, but I can't work out what it's saying.
	It's like hideous, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	And so it's all this sort of weird, again, just perverse is the only way I can think of it.
	It's like nothing that I would want to be involved in, basically.
	Yeah.
	You've got other ones.
	A person called Lotta Volkova, some internet sleuth, did some digging.
	And I don't know how much of this we can actually show, but this is the baby's covered in blood one.
	Yeah, she's the designer for that.
	And it's like, okay, this is fashion.
	Fashion?
	Are you selling me clothes?
	What are you selling me here?
	Baby-killing lifestyle.
	Yeah.
	That's what they're selling.
	So a couple of chaps, brothers called Jake and Dinos Chapman got dragged into this because they work in this arena and they got dragged into it.
	So brand ambassador Kim Kardashian was like, well, I have to rethink...
	My position on this.
	I was like, right, okay, you do that.
	But as Newsweek say, in their scrutiny of Balenciaga and entities associated with their brand, social media users posted images of the Chapman Brothers' art pieces depicted children with genitalia in places of their noses and mouths, among other features on the website Auction House Christie's.
	So Christie's is owned by Group Artemis, which is part of a holding company, and all of these things are basically owned...
	So the guy who owns that is the chairman of Kering, or the CEO of Kering, which is a company that owns Balenciaga.
	So the auction company Christie's is owned by the company that owns Balenciaga, basically.
	And so all of these things are very sort of tightly knit at the top.
	Well, I met some activists quite a long time ago who deal with the rape of children, like the wholesale rape of children.
	And they sort of seem to think that once you get on a certain echelon of society, that the final frontier is raping kids.
	And so they think it's really common in super, super elites.
	The reason, well, there are a lot of people who think that.
	I don't know or anything.
	I'm not making any allegations.
	No.
	I'm just saying, why do you have all this weird child bondage torture stuff in your adverts?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not about to name names.
	No, no.
	But let's go on to Jake Chapman, because Jake Chapman, working with Christie's, has some interesting opinions.
	Like, he really doesn't seem to think highly of children.
	Again, it's not a smoking gun or anything.
	But you start putting together these sorts of attitudes.
	He said, quote, it's a total waste of time taking children to art galleries because children are not human yet.
	Oh, he sounds nice.
	Yeah.
	What a way of looking at it.
	Well, I'm not asking him to babysit.
	Well, no.
	That's for sure.
	No.
	As a parent, I can tell you children are definitely human.
	Yeah, well, I just don't get people that don't like children.
	I've met quite a lot of women who say, oh, I don't like children.
	And one woman said it and she loved dogs and I was like, I hate dogs.
	Yeah.
	And she said, I can't believe you.
	I said, you've just literally told me I've got four kids that you don't like children.
	What a stupid thing to say.
	You were a child.
	My youngest son was two yesterday, and I got a video of him on his granddad's shoulders bouncing around with just the biggest grin.
	He's never done that.
	He wouldn't let me put him on my shoulders.
	But for some reason, he let him with my granddad.
	My granddad's running around bouncing, and he's just giggling and laughing.
	I was watching that video again last night, just thinking, someone who hates children has something deeply wrong with them.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Deeply wrong with them.
	There's a profound innocence in children that is just, it can't be captured anywhere else, you know, and it should be preserved where possible.
	I think with women it's often that it's like thou doth protest too much, you know, for women that haven't had children that don't like children.
	I sort of think, I wonder if that's just your mechanism.
	Maybe they're closing off their hearts or something, you know, to protect themselves from feeling longing.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, moving on.
	Actually, if you're watching on YouTube, this is probably where we're going to have to stop.
	Because this gets a bit vile, actually.
	So if you want to watch the rest of this, you can watch it on logistics.com.
	So yeah, let's get these pictures up, John.
	Turns out the CEO of Valencia's parent company, Caring, as we just spoke about, sells child sex mannequins.
	This is one example.
	This chap's name is Francois-Henri Pinault, who's Sam Hayek's husband.
	Oh my god!
	Look at the amount of money that costs.
	She's married to...
	This guy.
	Oh, my God.
	Look at the amount of 30 grand.
	I wonder if he had anything to do with Epstein.
	Well, that's a great question.
	There are loads of these, actually, if we get the next one.
	That's him, obviously.
	If we can get the next link, though, Dominique Samuels.
	Get these pigs up.
	You've got to see them.
	You've got to see them.
	Oh, my God.
	This is just...
	That's Cockroach Kid.
	Go to the next one.
	Don't even know what that's meant to be.
	What?
	Are these pictures or are they...
	These are mannequins.
	These are mannequins.
	Go to the next one.
	You can see...
	This one's called Two-Faced Seaward.
	Oh.
	All My Life.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is just genuinely monstrous.
	And so the people...
	I hear Daisy gasp in the background there.
	£91,000!
	But then, this is the guy who owns the company that owns Balenciaga.
	And so suddenly, the bondage bear doesn't seem so shocking.
	No.
	Putting the Supreme Court verdict against child pornography doesn't seem like an accident.
	I wonder who bought those.
	Exactly.
	The estimate is like 12,000 to 18,000.
	They're selling for way over that.
	27,500 someone paid for that.
	Yeah.
	And it's just...
	You can see why we can't put this on YouTube, right?
	Like, it's...
	It's...
	It's the most vile thing.
	If you were to, like Stephen King style, create the most degenerate, despicable comic villain you could think of, it would probably end up making things like that.
	Oh my life!
	Yeah.
	And so it keeps going.
	I mean, these people...
	Siamese.
	C-word.
	Yeah.
	And then you combine it with the, well, children aren't human...
	Is Supreme part of that brand?
	Oh, that needs to go out of my house then.
	Yeah.
	I'm so glad I've never bought a fashion label, to be honest.
	Well, I haven't.
	I don't wear Supreme.
	I'm a bit old.
	I get my shirts from LotusEats.com.
	AdultHumanFemale.store, just saying, just saying.
	We don't have anything like that.
	Yeah, no.
	So yes, this is...
	Yeah, this is absolutely grotesque.
	And so that's, I think, where we'll leave that, because...
	I don't even know what to say.
	There's only...
	There's no...
	There's no innocent, there's no accidental or subconscious messaging here.
	It's absolutely conscious, paedophilic, rapey kids, Satanism.
	I mean, to create a range of deformed, mutant child sex dolls with holes in that you can obviously have sex with, it's just like, that's a lot of work that's gone into that.
	Well, yeah, yeah.
	Where in one's mind, if one wasn't a paedophile, where would that exist in your mind?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Why would this even be...
	But it's just so demented.
	I just can't get over it.
	So anyway, I felt the need to inflict that all on you because I had that inflicted on me.
	me let's get something a bit more jolly which is the Canadian you've shared yeah let's get something more jolly which is Canada murdering people from yeah child rape to this Yeah, people always complain that, like, oh, God, you know, it's such a downer sometimes.
	Like, yeah, but look what's happening.
	Like, you know, sorry.
	You know, maybe we should have, like, a little clip of puppies playing in the sun or something in between segments.
	Yeah, so let's take a slide down Canada's slippery slope, because things are not going brilliantly in Canada, in my opinion.
	Frankly, they're looking a lot like Brave New World, which you can go to lowseas.com and check out our book club of, because this is the end state.
	Aldous Huxley could see that actually George Orwell was wrong, and in fact we'd get to a point where you would simply be medicated out of your concerns, and when you were finally feeling like you just didn't want to live anymore, you'd just kill yourself.
	Oh.
	And this is where we're at.
	Happy days.
	Yeah.
	Take, for example, the 71-year-old man whose daughter here explains that he had a fall at home, went to the hospital, and never left because they falsely diagnosed him with a disease that the autopsy showed he didn't have, but they could only do the autopsy after they'd euthanized him.
	Oh my god.
	He'd just fallen over.
	He'd probably got a broken hip or something.
	Like, right, okay, take these euthanasia drugs.
	What the hell is happening in Canada?
	It's so bad.
	Apparently the doctors didn't even go to and find his medical records from his own doctor.
	Just like, right.
	That's it.
	Yeah, but why would they do that?
	Are they getting money for euthanizing people?
	We'll get to it.
	Okay, thanks.
	The next one is this 54-year-old Canadian man who's got a bad back and we're in times of economic strife.
	So he's like, right, I think I'm going to have to kill myself.
	This is just normal in Canada these days.
	He says, I don't want to die, but I don't want to be homeless more than I don't want to die.
	Oh, it's such a lovely place.
	Such a lovely place, Canada.
	It's so progressive, you see.
	Well, Jordan Peterson says, what happens when the left goes too far?
	Well, they kill people.
	Yes.
	And they kill people for reasons of love and beauty, which is even worse.
	Can we get to the next one, John?
	Because if you scroll down on this, I couldn't extract the video.
	Scroll down a little bit more.
	This video was taken off of YouTube.
	So, in fact, we probably shouldn't play it if it's been taken off of YouTube.
	Well, no, actually, I don't think it was...
	No, no, we can watch it.
	I think they took it down.
	So let's watch this.
	Got any sound on that?
	Scrub forward a bit in the video.
	It can take dying to figure out what living is actually like.
	The End I spent my life filling my heart with beauty, with nature, with connection.
	So I choose to fill my final moments with the same.
	last breaths are sacred when I imagine my final days I see music I see the ocean.
	I see cheesecake.
	I see cheesecake.
	Even now, as I seek help to end my life, with all the pain, and in these final moments, there is still so much beauty.
	You just have to be brave enough to see it.
	We don't know if there's anything wrong with that one.
	No information about her medical position is given.
	But this was a 37-year-old woman called Jennifer who was euthanized.
	And then a couple of days later, a week or two weeks later, one of Canada's best-known fashion retailers, weird, this is fashion again, right?
	Quebec-based La Maison Simons launched an advertising campaign based on her wish to die and that's it.
	So vile.
	I think that's made me feel that the fashion label that was using kids is really gross and vile.
	That's just so disturbing.
	I mean, it all is.
	But there's something about the aesthetic of trying to create something beautiful out of something really profoundly dehumanizing and awful.
	Who does that?
	Canadians.
	Yeah.
	Progressive Canadians.
	There are going to be a bunch of Canadian truckers who are nicely traditional Canadians.
	Like, no, that's terrible, eh?
	But they're not in control of their country.
	No, well, they all got their money taken close down, didn't they?
	Absolutely.
	And I know people...
	So on my side of this whole debate, TERFs, there are women that have seen...
	How we are talked about and have seen what happens when the mob and government go against you and cannot see the humanity of those Canadian truckers.
	And I don't get it.
	So this stuff, there will be loads of people defending somebody's right to die.
	It's...
	But why make it something worthy of emulation?
	That's the question.
	There was a woman at a conference about transgender kids, like the vegan cat.
	So about kids that are trans.
	She described somebody walking in front of a train, a young woman, I think she's about 16 or 17, and she took the beautiful and courageous decision to stand in front of the train.
	That's hideous!
	Talking about, yeah, talking about a girl committing suicide.
	I genuinely kind of hate this sort of standing in front of the train thing because you're making other people complicit in your own suicide.
	This is a, like, who says brave and beautiful decision about a young person or anybody taking their own life?
	But even worse, like, you know, okay, the train driver's got to live with the fact that he could do nothing.
	And he just watched you smack.
	He's got a, he probably wakes up in the middle of the night, you know, with that image in his head.
	Of course.
	You know, and so to call it, like, brave and beautiful, it's like, that's awful.
	Anyway.
	Just all of it.
	Yeah.
	Jeez.
	I'm going to Canada in April.
	Yeah.
	Well, don't go, don't get sick.
	Don't go to a hospital.
	Turf are you?
	Have you thought about killing yourself?
	Well, I wonder if I'll get in, but yeah, I'm doing my speaker's corner.
	Let women speak stuff out there.
	It'll be great.
	So in 2015, where this all came from, right?
	In 2015, the Supreme Court of Canada revised 22 years of its own jurisprudence by striking down the country's ban on assisted suicide as unconstitutional, blithely dismissing fears that ruling would initiate a descent down a slippery slope into homicide against the vulnerable as founded on anecdotal examples.
	It's just those anecdotal examples just keep piling up.
	And so the next year, Parliament enacted the legislation allowing euthanasia, but only for those who suffer from a terminal illness whose natural death was reasonably foreseeable.
	And that's not an unreasonable position.
	If you are an incredible mass of pain, it's like, look, you've got a month to live, you're bedridden, you can't do anything.
	I can completely see the argument, and I'm sympathetic to that argument.
	But the problem is, who's paying for it?
	Well, who's making money out of this?
	Well, when the government bureaucrats are like, yeah, that is expensive, and we are under constant pressure for the healthcare, the NHS, or the Canadian NHS. But anyway, they carry on.
	It only took five years for the proverbial slip to come into view when the Canadian Parliament enacted Bill C-7, a sweeping euthanasia law which repealed the reasonably foreseeable requirement and the requirement that the conditions should be terminal.
	Now, as long as someone is suffering from an illness or disability which cannot be relieved under conditions that you consider acceptable, they can take advantage of what is euphemistically known as medical assistance in dying, MADE for short, for free.
	So, got a problem?
	Have you considered killing yourself?
	Says the Canadian government.
	Well, I wonder what the link is between all these sort of...
	Why progressive actually is really not progressive at all, but really authoritarian and fascistic and pretty dangerous.
	I wonder what the link is between that and transgenderism and surrogacy and all the kind of...
	Well, the link is that it's dehumanising.
	I can tell you.
	These are all connected by the belief that the will should be free of the constraints of the body.
	Notice how, under conditions that you consider acceptable.
	Like, well, I just found it, I consented, I thought it was okay, and therefore kill me.
	I consider myself to be a woman trapped in a man's body, therefore my will is being constrained by nature.
	Nature itself is the villain.
	Yeah, it's the individual will.
	It's just so...
	Well, I guess it's when the individual becomes more important to society, which society will break down anyway, and actually the individual will become more important than society because there will be no society.
	Yes.
	And not only that, think about the things they have to presuppose.
	Because most people think, well, my mind and my will is a product of my body.
	And so if I say I'm born in the wrong body, there's no such thing because, of course, my mind's a product of my body.
	So there must be something wrong with me rather than wrong with my body.
	There must be something wrong with my mental state.
	But instead, these people have gone, oh, you were born in the wrong body.
	Where was my will before it became...
	Part of my body.
	How is it adhered into my body?
	You get into a series of metaphysical commitments that are obvious nonsense that no one believes, and yet they're committed to saying, well, actually, there was the spirit of this transgender person that just for some reason went into the man's body, not the woman's body.
	It's like, well, why did it do that?
	How do you know?
	It puts them into a series of absurdities.
	It sounds like the spirit's a bit of a moron, if it couldn't even choose my body.
	Should I be sympathetic?
	No.
	No.
	Anyway, but we should be sympathetic to disabled veterans because, of course, this was another case where this woman was a veteran and former Paralympian, presumably injured in war, was trying to get the government to install a wheelchair ramp.
	And they were like, yeah, why don't you just kill yourself instead, though?
	And she was like, what?
	I don't want to.
	I don't actually hate my life.
	Because, I mean, there have been lots of studies that show people who are severely disabled, like, initially, they're very upset by their lot in life.
	But actually, their happiness level normalizes.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	And so it's not that these people are unhappy and want to die.
	Like, this is retired Corporal Christine Gauthier, who's been trying to get a wheelchair ramp installed in her home for the last five years, which shows you about government contracting.
	A caseworker told her that they could give her assisted dying.
	I don't want to die!
	I want to get up the stairs!
	It's so, I mean, also that, like, it's awful anyway, so I think we both established that it's a terrible thing to do, but then for people to act like an individual to actually suggest this, it's a bit like when Boris was found having that party, and then there was a nurse, and she said, I didn't let an elderly man say goodbye to his dying wife, and I was like, well, that's on you!
	You know, and this thing, that's on the individual as well as...
	Canada, which is, I don't know, hell.
	But saying to someone, those words coming out of anybody's mind is just, what on earth is the training that goes before?
	That's a great question because it's the view of a bureaucrat, right?
	Yeah.
	Someone who's just inhuman.
	It's like, well, look, the numbers on my spreadsheet aren't adding up.
	You're just going to have to kill yourself.
	You know, they say, is there like a training session where they go, right, what we'd like you to do is maybe 10 made equipment sent out to people this week.
	If you do that, you get a free lunch.
	Yeah, there's probably some sort of quota, right?
	There must be something, right?
	Universal healthcare is expensive, you see.
	Yeah, we've got to cut costs.
	Try and kill off about 15 people this week.
	I'm not even joking.
	We'll get to it in a second, right?
	But anyway, before we get to that, though, so euthanasia has become one of the leading causes of death in Canada.
	There were 10,000 of them in 2021.
	10,000.
	Well, 10,064 assisted deaths in 2021.
	But they say in this, quote, when all data sources are considered, the total number of made reported assisted deaths since the legalization to December 2021 is 31,000.
	So...
	It was legalised in 2016, and since then, you can see it's going up.
	It was 10,000 last year, 7,600 in 2020, 5,000 in 2019, 4,000 in 2018, 2,800 in 2017, and 1,000 in 2016.
	So now 30,000 people have been murdered by the Canadian government.
	It's so bad.
	It's unbelievable.
	But it does, it really goes hand in hand with all the other things going on in that country.
	With their lovely Prime Minister, who's obviously, you know, he's concerned about this, which is why he's doing a drag show.
	But it's, I don't even have words about this.
	It's so profoundly wrong.
	Yeah.
	I think the main problem is that when you've got decisions like this, there's no connection of care or sentiment between the people that are involved, right?
	It's just someone who doesn't know you, doesn't care about you.
	You are just an entry in their database.
	And it's like, right, okay, this person, right, well, just give them the maid...
	Death kit.
	And then that's a thing off my checklist.
	Maybe if this was talking to his friends and family, his wife, his mother, his children, and they're like, yeah, he's really suffering.
	We'd like that to be the case.
	Okay, fine.
	Maybe.
	Because at least you know there's love involved there.
	But when it's literally just a bureaucrat who's like, well, kill yourself, you're not getting that stair lift.
	And these aren't people believing in an afterlife, are they?
	These aren't religious people.
	So they literally, that's it.
	They're finishing their one shot.
	Yeah.
	And there are other things that they list in here, right?
	So only 15% of Canadians have access to what they call quality palliative care, which are treatments that can make the difference in wanting to live or die.
	So, you know, pain relief, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is.
	In Ontario, doctors have no conscience rights.
	So they must either kill qualified patients who ask to die or find a doctor they know who will.
	And this is called effective referral.
	Oh, my.
	Yeah.
	It just, it's too bad to be true, right?
	I mean, I know it's true, but it's too horrific that you can just see the...
	It's almost comedic.
	It's like Futurama.
	But you can see exactly how this would be abused.
	So I know people that really just are opposed to euthanasia on any level.
	And I think that the humanity of caring for somebody not to have to suffer, as we've both just discussed, is something that I think people should be able to take their own lives or be assisted.
	Because otherwise what happens actually is doctors withdraw food and water and you die slowly.
	So there is kind of assisted dying anyway in this country.
	That was my nan.
	Oh, did it?
	I'm so sorry.
	So I get it.
	But we know that the campaign is against all youth in Asia.
	We'll say that it will be used in order to do the things that Canada's doing.
	It'll be used to get around having to employ government contractors.
	Because you don't need that stair lift.
	But I know you just want to get to your bathroom.
	Oh, organ harvesting.
	Well, I was going to be like, yeah, do you want to make this worse?
	Yeah, I think I do.
	So apparently Canada then harvests organs from people who are euthanized.
	Mm-hmm.
	There's a big market for that.
	Yeah, which, of course, gives the despairing a reason to choose life over death, as they say.
	This has become the sixth leading cause of death in Canada, killing yourself because of the government.
	This is mental.
	It's genuinely mental.
	I realize I'm kind of half making light of it, but, like, what are you supposed to do?
	I went to China.
	So my parents lived in mainland China and I went to Macau in about 2003, where they were harvesting organs from sort of petty criminals.
	And then I won't name the person, but I went out with someone who I have no reason to not trust, who's a very respected person.
	Who said that in the war in Bosnia, the Bosnian War, there were so many soldiers just totally freaked out because they would find kids on the side of the road who'd had their organs harvested.
	So it's a really...
	I've met a lot of people who know about this and it's huge business.
	Huge business.
	Like stealing kids in war zones to harvest organs.
	That's just...
	Okay, let's move on.
	Yeah, sorry.
	No, I had no idea.
	Happy days.
	I thought I'd ruin your day.
	No, you're ruining mine.
	No, thanks.
	Sorry.
	I try.
	So the experts in Canada are like, should we be killing this many people?
	Maybe we're slightly troubled by Canada's permissive euthanasia laws.
	Like, you have the example here of Alan Nichols, who had a history of depression and other medical issues, but none were life-threatening.
	And when he was hospitalised over fears he might be suicidal, he asked his brother to bust him out as soon as possible, but instead, within a month, he, presumably, uncoerced, submitted a request to be euthanised and was killed.
	So, he's like, I've been taken to hospital because they're worried I'm suicidal.
	You've got to come and get me.
	And then a month later, he's like, yeah, no, I want to kill myself.
	Oh my god.
	And so they're like, yeah, here you go, here are the drugs.
	Oh.
	Despite concerns raised by his family and a nurse practitioner, didn't have any life-threatening illnesses.
	His application for euthanasia listed only one health condition as the reason for his request to die, hearing loss.
	Hearing?
	I've gone deaf, you better kill me.
	But there's loads of people involved in this, right?
	That's the thing.
	I mean, I know there's horrible people everywhere that don't have to see the front line of what their decisions may actually cause, but these are people working in healthcare who are administering those final drugs to people that they...
	No, don't have a terminal illness, but are depressed.
	This is what Hannah Arendt called the banality of evil a lot of the time in the modern world.
	Like with the Holocaust, a lot of people are just stamping papers.
	But what you're doing is facilitating the murder of millions of people.
	And in this, it's not millions yet, but it's only been a few years.
	It's just so depressing.
	Because it's also Canada, so it's done with this sort of love and kindness and compassion.
	And it's really anything but.
	It's just so bad.
	Alan was basically put to death, says his brother.
	And one woman, Marie-Claude Landry, the head of the Human Rights Commission in Canada, says, Euthanasia cannot be a default for Canada's failure to fulfil its basic human rights obligations.
	Well, it seems that that's becoming the case.
	100% that's becoming the case.
	I'm really not surprised.
	If you didn't head this up with Canada, and I had to guess what progressive company was doing this.
	Well, what progressive country, but progressive country, I think I could guess Canada.
	They take kids away from parents who won't affirm their gender nonsense.
	I guess, yeah, I mean, I'm sure China does it.
	I'm sure there's lots of countries in the world that do this horrible thing.
	But we appreciate that they're pretty terrible.
	Although Trudeau is very closely linked with Canada.
	He is also closely linked with Canada.
	You're not wrong.
	But even the New York Times wrote an article about this, going, look, this is actually really bad.
	Like...
	And the way they frame it is actually quite good.
	What if a society remains liberal but ceases to be civilized?
	What they're calling this is the liberal dystopia.
	Yeah.
	Which I think is a good way of framing it, actually.
	I do too, yeah.
	He says, this isn't the slippery slope argument.
	When 10,000 people are availing themselves of your euthanasia system every year, you have already entered the dystopia.
	I mean, it is, isn't it?
	It's like an episode of Black Mirror.
	It's crazy.
	And it also is completely validating the American arguments about a government-funded health service.
	Why are they doing this?
	Well, it saves a lot of money.
	This is a report from 2017.
	In which they were like, look, medical-assisted deaths could save millions in healthcare spending.
	Oh, yay!
	Because that's what the bureaucrats care about, right?
	New research suggests that medically-assisted dying could result in substantial savings across Canada's healthcare system.
	Brilliant!
	That was what I was concerned about.
	I was paying too much.
	Doctor-assisted death could reduce annual healthcare spending across the country by between $34 million and $136 million, says a report published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal on Monday.
	Well, I wonder what their birth rate is in Canada.
	I wonder if they're not actually producing enough population to afford everybody.
	Yes.
	Which might be why.
	People are living too long.
	Elderly expense care is costing too much.
	And Canada's hit on the perfect solution.
	Why don't we just kill them?
	Well, we did that.
	We just used COVID to do it.
	But we helped a lot of people along their merry way to heaven.
	The savings exceedingly outweigh the estimated $1.5 to $14.8 million in direct costs associated with implementing the Medical Assisted Dying Program.
	1.4 births per one.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, so I mean, it's a massive saving.
	There's no question of it.
	At the lowest end, it's at least like $32 million.
	At the highest end, it's at least about $120 million.
	Who really sits down in a room of bureaucrats and talks about, well, do you know what we could do?
	Why don't we kill off some people?
	Well, the Canadian Medical Association.
	They're the people who did that study.
	I just can't imagine in a country where it's, you know, there probably are people who are hungry, but it's not a third world country.
	It's a first world country.
	I don't know how buoyant the economy is.
	Probably not that great.
	I'm sure they're doing fine.
	But to do, to have, to sort of, $136 million is nothing, right?
	It's not even that much money.
	No, it's not even that much money, no.
	So to say that we need to do it to save that much money.
	It's probably like five minutes of NHS spending.
	I mean, I would hope that one person's life was worth more than $136 million, but yeah, it's crazy.
	You would think so.
	It's crazy to talk in those terms.
	But the thing is, this is on the CBC, which is the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
	So it's like their version of the BBC. And it's done by the Canadian Medical Association.
	So if this was like a fringe far-right outlet that was saying, yeah, I'd be like, okay, maybe I'm sceptical about your interpretation.
	But this is their mainstream.
	If this was in a far-right outlet, if this was being said by then, people would oppose it.
	Yeah.
	But because it's being said by the progressives and people who care, I mean, I guess if you cover everything in enough sort of loving language, you can really do some pretty evil things.
	The takeaway point is that there may be some upfront costs associated with offering medical-assisted dying to Canadians, but there may also be a reduction in spending elsewhere in the system and therefore offering medical assistance in dying to Canadians will not cost the healthcare system anything extra, says Aaron Trachenberg, an author of the report on Resident and Internal Medicine at the University of Calgary.
	Well, maybe within a couple of years they'll just do it with a brick.
	Really save a lot of cash.
	You just go to hospital and as you go in just like clobber.
	Yeah, I suppose so.
	Bricks are way cheaper.
	But however bad Canada is, things are always worse in Germany.
	This is just a profound rule of life.
	Things are always worse in Germany.
	To get to the next one, in Germany, they are going to offer you assisted suicide, but you have to be fully vaccinated.
	That's great.
	So they're doing that as well?
	Yes.
	The ironies of assisted suicide never end.
	Germany allows suicide on demand, including assistance, as a fundamental constitutional right.
	But now you must be vaccinated against COVID before the euthanasia group will help you kill yourself.
	How wonderful.
	Why is that?
	Because you might infect the doctors with COVID. I think you should infect them with something if they can kill you, to be fair.
	So that's that.
	We'll leave it there.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	The hips on the drag queen go swish, swish, swish, all through town.
	The hair on the drag queen goes up, up, up, up, up, up.
	The hair on the drag queen goes up, up, up, all through town.
	The shoes on the drag queen go stump, stump, stump, stump, stump, stump, stump.
	I mean, this is brilliant.
	This is brilliant literature, guys.
	Our kids are going to be so educated.
	I'm going to create a series of far right children's books.
	Really far right.
	So wrong.
	It's so wrong.
	But the drag thing is, you know, it's supposed to, the justification is it's supposed to help children not be constricted by sex stereotypes, but it's just bloody gross.
	It just really annoys me that drag is, I hate drag anyway, right?
	Yeah.
	I don't like it.
	I think it's a vile, sexualized parody of women.
	It's a woman face.
	Yeah.
	And it also talks...
	Those men talk in ways that no woman can, right?
	Which is fine, because I don't want to talk like that, but women who would behave like that would be ridiculed and castigated, and these men do it.
	So I really hate it, but that's why I don't pay to go to a drag club.
	Sure.
	But I don't think it necessarily, just because I find it offensive, I don't think it should be...
	Banned.
	Banned or whatever.
	I don't want to go and protest outside a drag club.
	And I'm too small.
	But introducing this concept to kids...
	Yeah, why do you need a children's book for it?
	Like, and this is the thing.
	Okay, fine.
	If you as adults want to go and have your drag queen club, okay, I don't care.
	You know, I literally, I'm fine.
	But why do children need to be involved in any of this?
	You know, that's the question.
	Why do you need an audience of children?
	Yeah, why are we trying to blur and erase the sexual boundaries between adults and kids?
	Or the boundaries rather, not just sexual boundaries, but all boundaries.
	I mean, for example, I wouldn't want children watching our podcast.
	Not because I... We try not to swear.
	I mean, today's episode has been obviously inappropriate for children.
	But not even necessarily that, you know, we don't normally swear or use offensive language or even cover particularly disgusting topics.
	Normally it's really a normal person.
	Is that just especially for me?
	Yeah, it was actually, yeah.
	But I wanted the take of a sensible parent on all this, actually, you know.
	Because a lot of these people in the office are a bit younger than us, and so they don't have kids.
	And so I'm like, no, no, no, no.
	We need some dadism and mumism here.
	It's disgusting.
	You don't need it.
	Get out.
	So yeah, that's why I saved something for you.
	But I was thinking about this as well.
	Like, just...
	Children don't need more choices.
	I do not think.
	I think children have more than enough choices.
	What they need is structure.
	You know, they need to know where they should be and what they should be doing.
	Yes.
	And so this constant, oh no, we're getting rid of all the boundaries.
	Okay.
	But you're going to make them kind of deranged, you know, and insecure.
	Well, when I went to the US, I don't know if I mentioned it, but when I went to the US and to San Francisco, I tackled, asked questions of a very tall politician called Scott Weiner, which is a great name for him.
	So he introduced men into women's prisons with the Bill SB132, and he had an event for kids that was a pumpkin carving that was drag queens.
	And all these men, the three drag queens and Wiener, which is the most aptly named human I've ever known, were all like six foot four around little kids.
	Now, little children, generally speaking, are more wary of men.
	And they're certainly more wary of men wearing costumes.
	It was just so bizarre.
	So I did run down the road and ask him some pressing questions like why he's...
	Yeah.
	All these parents taking their kids there, I think in America in particular, and we're trying to do it here, we've infantilized adults.
	And so they don't know what's good for their own children.
	Now I am my child's advocate.
	I am like, don't mess with my kids because I will hurt you.
	And so when it comes to that, I know best.
	I know better than anybody else about my children.
	But not enough people think like that.
	And my instincts, I'm quite attuned with my instincts.
	So when it comes to something that is not great, then I'm pretty good.
	For example, Friday night, I went out in Bristol to a club called Blame Gloria because I'm 48.
	Yes.
	And so I went to this club and we bumped into a girl and her friend who'd gone to primary school with my son.
	She was 20.
	Okay.
	And there were two quite dodgy blokes, and one of my friends thought that these dodgy blokes were after pinching our handbags, but no, they'd done a lot worse than that.
	They'd spiked one of these girls' drinks.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, and within 15 minutes, she was unconscious and convulsing.
	And so I did go and have a bit of a word with him, and we called the police, and I did tell him that I was going to ruin his life.
	But those girls had a feeling that they were dodgy because these men had followed them from a previous club and were, like, really looking.
	And all of us women knew something was up.
	Anyway, I'm just talking about instinct.
	But that's kind of...
	I think that's what's happened with...
	There's nothing wrong with trusting your instincts.
	No, but people don't.
	That's why they're there.
	But people want to be nice, which is why they often...
	People want to be progressive.
	That's what they want to be.
	Yeah.
	I'm basically totally against the concept of science at this point.
	Your instincts are the product of tens of thousands of years of trial and error.
	Yes.
	There must be something good about them.
	I'm more than happy.
	Mobile phones.
	I'm just a tyrant about mobile phones.
	No.
	My kids are not having...
	My wife's like, well, but she needs one.
	I don't care if she needs one.
	How old is your oldest?
	13.
	Doesn't have a mobile?
	No.
	Not even a brick?
	No.
	Because I'm a tyrant about it.
	And my wife wants it to have one.
	I'm like, no, it's just not happening because I've seen what happens.
	She had one when she was 12 and it made her depressed.
	It made her really sullen and she'd want to spend time away from us and stuff like that.
	It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
	You know, you can get a mobile phone when you can get access to heroin, which is when you leave the house.
	Right.
	Because that's what that is.
	And my wife says, all the other kids can be drug addicts.
	I don't care.
	It's not my kids.
	Right.
	We have a five second rule.
	And it's basically right.
	Five second rule.
	Not for my 19 and 20 year old, but to the other two.
	Five second rule.
	Your phone comes to me unlocked.
	And if you've deleted even a moment of history, I keep your phone.
	Good.
	But they are allowed their phones just not that often and I change the Wi-Fi code and that all the time and they don't want to use their data because they've got small data allowances.
	But I admire you for no mobile phone.
	I think it was Gwyneth Paltrow came out and said...
	Not Gwyneth Paltrow.
	It was some Hollywood actress.
	I was going to do a segment where other terrible stuff came up.
	But she was like, look, parents are intimidated by mobile phones because they don't necessarily understand them and they've got no way of controlling them.
	I'm like, well, there is a way of controlling them and it's a hammer.
	Pshh!
	Yeah.
	You know, just, no.
	And I honestly, I think the government should just come out and ban it like smoking, actually.
	Well, my daughter doesn't go on social media.
	I think for girls in particular, you're just reminded that you're not perfect all the time.
	Oh, it's terrible.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, God, it's so awful.
	But she doesn't really do that.
	There was a 14-year-old girl who killed herself because of Instagram.
	We covered it a couple of weeks back, where she was just on her phone all the time, just comparing herself to people on Instagram.
	And then she gets sucked into this rabbit hole of self-harm, and then she ends up hanging herself.
	It's like...
	Yeah.
	This is just the worst, you know?
	Well, when I was about 43, I think it was, you could change little bits of your face.
	It was like when they first started doing these tuning apps.
	And I don't particularly have a big nose, but I could thin it, right?
	Just because you could.
	I only did it for about four weeks.
	And then my nose in the mirror started looking like I had a big nose on my face.
	And I'm like 43, rational, understood exactly what the mechanism was.
	And I was just like, oh, I've just got rid of that app on my phone.
	Because then I was thinking, like, people would meet me for the first time and they go, oh, you look really old in comparison to how you normally look.
	You look about 59.
	So, yeah, it's, I don't know how I would have coped if I was a teenager.
	No, I don't.
	And that's why I'm just a total, I'm worse than China.
	In China, they restrict video game usage to one hour a night.
	And my kids wish they got an hour a night of video games.
	If my son is good all week, he'll get a couple of hours on Saturday and Sunday.
	And that's honestly to keep him quiet.
	Isn't that how you made your fortune though?
	What, being a tyrant?
	No, but weren't you a gamer before?
	Yeah, I was, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	You're just going to inhibit that revenue stream.
	Yeah, but the thing is, when I was like 13 or whatever, my dad got like an Amiga 500, and he wouldn't let me just spend all day on it.
	No.
	I only got a couple of hours at the weekend.
	And at least I turned out alright, I think.
	Well, I'd have to do about four hours of coding on my Commodore 64, just get a ball to bounce across the screen.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But that's the point.
	My dad was like, no, you're not doing it.
	Because he just felt instinctively, it's not right for you to just spend all your day looking at a screen or Yeah.
	Go out in the garden and play.
	And my wife's always like, oh my God, you know, my oldest son's got such a great imagination.
	I'm like, not really.
	He's just average for a boy.
	It's just all of the other boys around him are constantly playing video games and they're not stimulated to think about stuff and have to be creative.
	No.
	You know, and so like he's running around the garden shooting aliens with a gun or whatever.
	And she's like, that's so amazing.
	It's like, well, that's all I used to do.
	Yeah.
	And the little peaks of serotonin all the time makes you depressed.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And so I can see the benefit in them.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm never apologizing for this.
	Well, I agree with you.
	I admire you.
	Everyone does.
	Everyone always does.
	And it's like, actually, you know, we should all speak with a combined voice in this.
	Like, no mobile phones for children.
	Yeah.
	It would be the right thing.
	But anyway, let's go to the next video comment.
	Recently, Graham Hancock, a journalist, released a documentary on Netflix titled Ancient Apocalypse.
	I first became aware of Graham Hancock's work back in the late 1990s.
	His output seemed dubious at best even back then.
	In 1999, a two-part BBC Horizon programme examined his claims, the first part debunking him and the second featuring him.
	What was interesting about the first programme was the balanced and even handling of the history, explaining the archaeological record and findings to lay the case against him.
	However, this being the BBC, it was at the end of the episodes they invoked white supremacy.
	Okay, I haven't seen this program, but it's causing a lot of stir, because apparently this ancient aliens documentary this guy's produced of some sort, and it's just like, you know, someone who's even vaguely conversing with history, it's not aliens.
	There's no, like, you know, ancient apocalypse or whatever it is.
	People were really primitive 10,000 years ago.
	Sorry, what's he sort of said that there were aliens, like some sort of Ron Hubbard type?
	Yeah, yeah, I think, I don't think, like I said, I haven't seen it, but I think what it is is implying that there was some advanced civilization, like, you know, 12,000 years ago or something, that was wiped out in an apocalypse or something, but the thing is, there's no real evidence for it.
	No.
	And, like, for some reason now that's racist.
	What?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Who knows?
	Everything's racist.
	Yeah, let's move on.
	So since we're on this little white pill train, I'd like to add my own white pill.
	RazorFest did point out that we're currently in the Iron Age of media, and it makes sense because, I mean, for the left, all they've been doing is just indulging on old franchises, old dead corpses and all that, while everyone else has been busy building, and we've been building for a while.
	Now, obviously, creative endeavors do take time, and we probably won't see the effects of it until five years from now, but we're on the way.
	Yeah, that's some good news.
	It's an optimistic way of viewing it.
	The way that I've been looking at it is we know we've won when Nigel Farage becomes a lord.
	Oh, do you think he will?
	Yeah, and then Sir Tommy Robinson.
	Sir Posey Parker.
	Dame Posey Parker, I suppose it would be.
	Well, Sir Posey Parker, that would be a turn up for the books, wouldn't it?
	I'd suddenly transitioned.
	Yeah.
	But yeah.
	That's when we've won.
	The dissidents start getting accepted into the mainstream.
	That's when we've won.
	Well, yeah.
	We'll see about that.
	I definitely want to be a dame.
	I think so.
	Sir Tommy Robinson, Dame Kelly J. You keep putting that man's name next to mine, it will be the death of me.
	Well, I mean, this isn't going on YouTube, don't worry.
	But it's not that you're necessarily the same or anything.
	It's that you're unyielding dissidents against injustices that you've seen.
	Yeah.
	And in that way, you are the same.
	You've got different subjects and different approaches and different methods of activism and stuff.
	But you are both speaking about a major injustice in the regime.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, I have been to the House of Lords a fair few times.
	I feel it is my spiritual home.
	That's why I met you first, isn't it?
	Yes, it is.
	Yeah.
	I think you'd called me a name on your channel.
	You'd called me like an old something or a sour face or something you'd said.
	I don't think I'd call you sour.
	You absolutely did.
	Oh, no.
	I know why.
	It's because you were on some, like, Good Morning Britain or something like that.
	Yes.
	And you were very strict on that.
	You had this figured out.
	I was quite impressed, actually.
	You took them apart.
	Well, I've stayed consistent for all this time, and eventually people are catching up.
	Good.
	Robert says, Kelly J., I live in Kentish Town.
	If you're running against Keir Starmer, you've got my vote.
	Oh, thanks.
	So, you've just got that.
	AK says, Hi, Posey.
	Do you find you receive a backlash from socialist members of TERF movement?
	If so, how do you deal with this in terms of keeping unity in your movement?
	I don't know that I can keep unity in this movement.
	I just do what I know to be right and I do it confidently and truthfully.
	And those women are getting smaller in number and the backlash against them every time they come out and say the most horrific things about me.
	Their support gets lesser and lesser.
	So I think the only thing I can do is just continue.
	I mean, some of them do great work in other areas, right?
	I don't want them cancelled.
	But eventually they're going to make themselves irrelevant, which would be a terrible shame.
	George says, question for Miss Keene, what's a man?
	Well, an adult human male?
	Yes.
	I know what the answer's going to be.
	Yeah, anyone that's in my life.
	Ross says, it is a mental illness, though.
	We don't let schizophrenics who think they can fly jump off buildings, so why are we letting people mutilate their bodies and pump it full of the wrong hormones?
	That's true, although in Canada, if you're schizophrenic, I'm assuming you can just go and be euthanized.
	That's a great point, you know.
	We, not including Canada.
	Sir Olmey says, Kelly, the age limit is a trap.
	Once you start arguing whether 18 is a reasonable age for gender transition or not, you've implicitly accepted the premise that there is such a thing as gender transition or sex reassignment surgery.
	Look, I don't think it should be okay for anyone to do it, right?
	But I don't think anybody should be able to have their breasts enlarged to a point that their skin stretches or their implants in their backside, right?
	I think there's lots of things that we shouldn't do, but we also live in a society in which people do have free will.
	I just think First Do No Harm should be opposed to any surgery that doesn't result in anything true.
	So like the Chelsea and Westminster, for example, I had someone phone in who's done some Freedom of Information.
	Chelsea and Westminster is thinking within three years it's going to do 260 phalloplasties on the NHS a year.
	They are brutal as well.
	Yeah, and one of the people they will employ as part of that team is a nurse that specialises in wounds that don't heal.
	So they know they're going to do things to people that won't heal.
	So yeah, I agree that I'm a hard line on this.
	I don't think anybody should transition, but I also accept that we do have free will.
	Well, you know, it's an adult.
	What can you do?
	But, like, I mean, next time you're on, I'm going to get detransition stories and the results of transitions.
	I take it you've seen plenty of pictures.
	Oh, I know.
	There's a girl who documented it as a good positive story.
	She'd had 31 corrective surgeries after phalloplasty, including one of the side effects was urinating out of her anus was one of the things that had to be fixed.
	And she was euphoric because she then went in a toilet on the way home from hospital after a year of corrective surgeries and she peed standing up.
	And that was her kind of utopia moment where she arrived.
	Yeah, just absolutely insane.
	Social justice has been created.
	I can pee standing up.
	She could have just bought a she-wee.
	Yeah.
	Far cheaper.
	But the ones that they do on men as well are just the most brutal, brutal.
	I've seen so many people who've gone on Reddit and been like, look, I got this done.
	And oh my God, this is just monstrous.
	Well, your external skin, right?
	So we're very special, us women.
	We have lots of really wonderful parts of our body that do different things to yours.
	But this flesh on my hand, if I wear a plaster for too long, it doesn't like it.
	I don't know how it would then be tucked in my body and to sort of be dilated every day.
	It's just ridiculous that anybody would even think of doing this surgery.
	Yeah, and yet there are literally thousands of people a year who are getting it.
	Yeah, and for what?
	Well, I think, I don't know.
	I think that if you're getting the surgery, you're getting your penis cut open, split open and turned inside out and digging a hole inside of you.
	I think it's gone further than being such a fetish.
	Well, yeah, but a fetish can bed in in a part of the brain that it doesn't actually need the sort of the actual receptor of pleasure, right?
	So then your receptor is somewhere totally different and is linked to something totally different, which is why I say someone with a foot fetish might have I've squared that off as a kid, five or six years old, and they have a formative bond or memory with feet, and then that comes out as a fetish.
	But you've got people who go past the pleasure aspect where it's related to actual sexual acts, and then it just becomes the pain or the foot.
	You don't even need to be having sex.
	Or be sexually aroused.
	You just go part...
	You kind of bypass those.
	So that's what happens with people who have their penis sliced and tucked in.
	I just kind of feel these people are just mentally ill.
	Yeah.
	They're just really mentally ill.
	Yeah.
	I don't know the ins and outs of it.
	But like you were saying, a schizophrenic person who thinks he should fly shouldn't be pushed off a building outside of Canada.
	So, like, you know, people who think, oh, actually, I need a vagina.
	No, you don't.
	Well, you might need one, but you can't have one because we can't make them.
	Yeah, and it's still not authentic.
	Anyway, on that wonderful note, we're out of time.
	So, Kelly, where can people find you, if they can indeed find you?
	Oh, well, you can, look, I've got an official at Standing4XX account on Twitter that's run by somebody on my behalf called Iris.
	But, however, I'm hoping I'll be back on Twitter because I've been banned since 2018.
	Yeah, come on, Elon.
	You can also find me, Kelly J. Keene, on YouTube.
	And you can find me at adulthumanfemale.store, if you're in the UK, dot US, if you're in the US. And.shop if you are on.
	What a lovely photo.
	If you're on in Europe.
	But yes, that's where I am.
	Thank you.
	Thanks so much for joining us and we'll see you tomorrow, folks.

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