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Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eases for today, the 27th of October 2022.
I am pleased to be joined by my good friend, comedian and satirist, Abbey Roberts.
Finally, good to have you in the studio, Abbey.
It's great to be here.
Welsh comedian, no less.
Sorry, I should be speaking like that.
Yeah, we're really interested in representation on this podcast.
Yeah, tidy.
Yeah, so for those who aren't familiar with you, we actually have your getter up here.
Go and I'd really recommend the follow because you aren't on Twitter because you were kicked off.
No, I was booted off.
46,000 followers.
I was told too much of the truth.
Then I had another account.
I was booted off for that.
And I had another account.
I was still booted off.
I think I was hunted down by a cabal of sort of leftist nutters and taken off.
Not shocked.
And then the same with your unceremonious annexation from GB News, despite being there from the start.
Yeah.
Even over a fight that you didn't start with the wonderful John Gaunt.
The lovely, delectable John Gorn.
If you can track down the clip, it really is worth seeing.
Yes.
Because you got called a foul-mouthed yob live on television, and you were the one that wasn't invited back.
Yes, indeed.
I know, it's incredible, isn't it?
I just love the way that, yeah, women are being thrown under the bus.
How dare you speak about Eddie Izzard that way.
I know!
We'll get into that shortly.
So, alright then, we might as well start with jumping straight into news, shouldn't we?
So, the international financial institutions have successfully launched a cabal to install their preferred candidate, Austrian Central Bank Digital Currencies, into Britain and the rest of the G7. Probably wondering how we got here, as are we, because we have to live under it and pay for it.
Well, because there's a deficit of leadership, and in both the tenable opposition and in the ruling government, Conservatives and Labour, either side of Parliament.
Parliament truly aren't sending their best.
So I thought we'd just go through all of the examples recently as to why we're being governed by total idiots.
Before you do, we've got a little announcement, free for everyone, because we're that generous as part of our anniversary event.
At time of recording, this will be able to be watched on the YouTube.
It is a live book club of Frank Dicotta's The Great Tragedy of Liberation.
It'll be Carl and Callum going through another of Frank Dicotta's works.
So please go and watch that.
Also related, another piece of free content.
Just thought I'd plug it is because Rory and I went to the Conservative Party conference and this has pretty much aged like milk because Liz Truss was out before we could even post this.
But it is a wonderful insight into both the protesters on the outside and the Blairite managerial state on the inside of the tent.
We went so you didn't have to, so you can go and have a watch of that.
So let's kick off with our new Prime Minister, shall we?
We'll go to the first one.
First link.
The endorsement that nobody wanted.
Rishi Sunak is the only candidate to ever run for Prime Minister with an outward endorsement from the Chinese state media.
Woohoo!
Yeah, obviously Cameron and Osborne had the implicit endorsement because they said they wanted a new generation, a new golden age rather, of Chinese-British relationships.
But Rishi Sunak got an endorsement from the Global Times, which is the actual publication of the Chinese Communist Party.
And they said he had a pragmatic view on strengthening ties with China and And while most of the candidates hold a tough stance on China, only one of them, Mr Sunak, has a clear and pragmatic view on developing China and UK ties.
Great stuff.
I mean, when everyone was kissing his backside yesterday at PMQs about being the first Asian-British Prime Minister, I think they got the country wrong.
It wasn't India.
It was China, apparently.
So this has resulted in the BBC, for once, speaking the truth.
If we go to the next one, the BBC got in trouble because they did a word cloud and it included, well, two words, one of which rhymes with the surname of our current Chancellor.
And the other one rhymes with the word that you'd use to describe Therese Coffey's body.
The newly crowned Prime Minister met with King Charles this morning and is in the midst of building his cabinet.
He's currently done that at the moment.
But at 3.46pm, presenter Jonah Gosling, who has stood outside number 10, used the sample question, How would you describe Rishi Sunak in one word?
At this point, a word cloud created by Savanta Comrez, a polling research company, appeared on screen, which had compiled the nation's thoughts on the new leader of the Conservative Party.
The Anywhere presenter picked out rich, capable, OK, good and clever as standouts, but he was also referred to as a see you next Tuesday and...
well, a twat.
There we go.
Which...
Not inaccurate!
Also someone called him a snake, which is...
I believe one politician even tweeted out a Photoshop of Rishi Sunak's head on the body of a King Cobra outside Number 10.
That's pretty accurate.
Yeah, considering he'd sink his fangs into the prior administration.
I mean, I wasn't exactly upset with Boris Johnson going because the great white libertarian decided to imprison me in my house for two years.
Yes, what a wonderful man he was.
What a great principled leader he was.
Yes, all it took was him getting caught walking in on his fiancée being on her hands and knees in the office by someone who reported that to Private Eye and you wonder why he's on board with Net Zero and lockdowns.
I wonder what encouraged him to take that sudden policy position.
Carry with a whip.
You will say what I want you to say.
Get down on your knees.
Well, there was...
So I went to a speech at last year's Conservative Party conference where she thanked Mermaids and Stonewall for buying the alcohol.
Of course she did.
Curiously, they've since dropped the Mermaids endorsement after all the things that have come out from there this year.
But Stonewall is still in charge of the party.
And you can see Boris at the back of the room just grabbing a glass of red wine and raising it like a beaten down man.
Yeah.
It's the first relationship that you, well, would probably be sensible for you to walk out on, Boris.
On to the next one, shall we?
Another Chinese-controlled person.
So Jeremy Hunt, apparently, had a charity, and he paid 66% of the income to a chief executive.
So nice to know he can manage money properly.
A charity founded by the Chancellor paid more than £110,000, two-thirds of its income, to his former political advisor, Adam Smith, who lost his job over a lobbying scandal.
Patient Safety Watch set up to research preventable harm in healthcare...
Oh, the irony, which we cannot talk about on YouTube, of course, because everything is safe and effective.
Paid Smith, its sole employee and chief executive, about 66% of its income in the year ending January 2022.
Hunt part funds the charity, but also solicits donations from the public on its website.
It was established in 2019 to conduct research, but has produced no papers since.
Smith's $110,000 to $120,000 salary, first reported by the civil society publication, represents more than two-thirds of the charity's income of $164,000 for the financial year ending January 2022.
So, it just seemed like another slush fund.
Yeah, and Adam Smith, that name is pretty ironic, considering it's a so-called conservative talking.
Speaking of more so-called conservatives, shall we?
Michael Fabricant has decided to...
That is a Fabricant.
Yeah.
Or something else.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, we must not mispronounce it.
No, we must not.
Something...
Oddly mematic about the surnames of a lot of these politicians, isn't it?
It also only seems to be the BBC and LBC that seem to slip up and get it wrong.
Again, the one time they decide to tell the truth.
So, something as genuine as Michael Fabricant's hair.
Michael Fabricant says, Like all cats, Larry doesn't care who's PM as long as the PM feeds him.
So disloyal.
Frankly, I'm surprised he's been reappointed.
Obviously, this was a cheeky joke because Michael Fabricant supported the reappointment of Boris Johnson.
The funny part is, if we can just scroll down, John, he had a reply to this.
Where's the cat?
Oh, he's in there.
And he's got a video of Liz Truss going to pet Larry, and Larry just recoils.
That's a pretty telling fact about Premiership, isn't it?
It's like rising damp Vienna.
Oh, don't bend down.
Do you want me to be able to get up again?
I always used to think when she's bending down that she's just, oh, hang on a minute, my back's gone.
Yeah, she does look like a pigeon.
If rumours are to be believed, there might be a reason why Liz Truss walks so funny.
Yeah.
Anyway, speaking of...
Right, oh, tell me more.
Is that why she does this as well?
Well, she did...
Oh, no, that's the Britney Spears.
She did cheat on her husband with a sitting military member, the guy that grabbed the Greenpeace activist by the throat and forcibly ejected him.
Well, you know, who wouldn't find that sexy?
Yeah.
To be honest.
Blimey, Liz.
Speaking of terrible Boris Johnson allies as well, Nadine Dorries decided to step in for Piers Morgan the other night on Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Shall we take a clip of how our hosting skills went?
Yeah.
You can just play this, John.
Oh, Nadine.
Welcome to Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Coming up on tonight's programme, for a change, a man who is going to clear up a woman's mess.
That's Rishi's vow as he enters number 10.
As you were, soon as stability extends to the cabinet with the big B-stake and all her cages but Frapperman back at home in the home office.
Sorry, I'm just completely messed up.
They're in our studio, and we've risked them for a clue.
Stick around for Just Stop Oil Live.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I thought Liz Truss might have been, as Carl said, the first sitting MP with learning disabilities, but it turns out Nadine Dory's coming straight out of the gate.
I am reading the auto.
She kind of got more scouse.
She went along!
It was really, oh dear.
Yeah, the mudslide into illiteracy didn't bode well for her.
I did think, as soon as Nadine Dorries was originally appointed Culture Secretary, I did think we were going to have a bit of fun with it, because she was dim enough to maybe cause a bit of havoc.
And then she immediately, and I think this is why so many dumb politicians are being appointed, with Biden and Fetterman in the US, with...
about off air having no principles, Dorries, Hancock in many respects.
These people are being put in positions because they have no principles of their own.
They're ripe for ideological capture.
The first thing she did, online safety bill.
Yeah.
Online harms bill.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So rather than this, oh, Christian conservatism, which she tweeted out, she decides to make cringe TikToks and try and shut you all up on the internet.
Yeah.
So, can we just not have idiots in power, please?
Yeah, she just doesn't understand the principles of the online safety bill.
She doesn't understand anything about free speech.
No.
You know, the principles of it.
It's just very, she's literally, she's like, I've got my exams, I'm quite intelligent, I'm a Tory, I love Boris, and You know what I mean?
It's like, okay, Nadine, that'll do.
I mean, the level of politicians has dropped through the floor, you know, from when I was a young'un.
But it's just dreadful, honestly.
And I'm just sick of being forced to pay for it.
Yeah.
So you've preempted, actually, a piece from the BBC next.
3pm in two months is political chaos to the UK's new normal.
And it speaks about why there's such a deficit in leadership.
And these sort of things were touched upon in a, of all things, France 24 debate I did the other night, where they got some lefty professors on.
And they hit upon the same sort of problem at the heart of the Tory party.
But they just missed the conclusion.
So I'll see what you think about this.
Since the summer of 2007, there's been Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, and now Mishi Sunak.
In contrast, there were just three prime ministers in the 28 years before.
Thatcher, Major, Blair.
What is the cause of the revolving door at number 10, and could this trend be the new normal, I hate that phrase, for British politics?
Jill Rutter from the Think Tank Institute for Government believes the Brexit vote in 2016 has been the number one destabilising factor in British politics over the last six years.
We can attribute almost all of the instability to a fallout of the Brexit referendum and what it has done for the Conservative Party.
Now you can see the framing here, in that they want to blame the public for voting the wrong way.
Yes.
How dare they?
Democracy.
How dare they do their democratic stuff?
Yeah.
And that's the same thing with the membership picking Liz Truss over Rishi Sunak, because they weren't exactly enthused about Liz Truss in many respects.
They were a couple of years ago before she decided to get a more important job and open a big fat mouth.
Because I remember 2021 Conservative Party conference, the queue was around the block just to get into her events.
And I thought, yeah, she spoke about identity politics in a cogent way, because she had a better speechwriter back then, little did we know.
But she wasn't exactly mostly prime ministerial material.
No.
But people rejected Rishi Sunak, and he's still been appointed anyway.
So the idea there's a contempt for a particular contingent of the electorate that are more populist, more right-wing...
The British public are far right by any standards of the media and the Conservative Party itself.
So I do think they're right in saying it's Brexit, but I don't think they're right in saying that Brexit shouldn't have happened.
I think it's that the Tory party is fractionated because even the pro-Brexiteers of the Tory party, did any of them speak about national sovereignty?
No, I agree.
They never put that front and centre.
They literally could have just said, national sovereignty, and that's it.
That should have been their slogan.
Instead it was buses, wasn't it?
It was like, we're going to spend this much on a bus, or immigration, this, that, and the other.
And it should have been simple, a simple first principle.
Go back to first principles.
Have a whiteboard in whoever's in government and just write first principles underlined three times.
Yeah.
And then you'll be alright.
Yeah, well, the main thing was you saw, like, Gove and Boris and Rishi and Mordaunt, who are now WEF puppets by all...
I know we can't call them globalists these days, because apparently it's anti-Semitic, even though none of those are Jewish people.
Yeah.
But they were all talking about GDP go up.
They were talking about global Britain.
So, unshackled from the common market, we can be a global market, we can have global immigration.
And everyone was going...
No, no.
Less migrants, cultural preservation, national sovereignty.
And so they're right.
Brexit has shown bare the fraction in the Conservative Party, but it's not that it never should have happened.
It's because we've got Remainers and neoliberals who want more of the same, just a better mandate to do it.
So they've got no actual base there.
They've sold a library.
They've got no ideological roots, the people that are in charge.
And I would say that, and we spoke about this off-air, that the leftism, the ideology, not the nice cuddly left of Alan Johnson.
You know, the workers' rights, and what I think of as old-school Labour.
I'm talking about Foucault, Marcuse, all the French intellectuals.
That leftism has essentially impregnated politics as we know it.
We saw it with Blair and Obama, third-way socialism.
So it's basically communitarianism, collectivism through the back door.
Yeah.
So people are going to go, oh, all of a sudden, there's no individual sovereignty.
And that's been a deliberate plan, I would say, for probably about the last 25 years.
Yeah, the long march through the institutions is now produced in every single company's HR department, having a diversity inclusion department.
Everyone's bending the knee to everything.
Literally, the leftists running the Labour Party are bending the knee to BLM when it has no relevance to anything going on in UK politics whatsoever.
Yeah, yeah.
And given how much money BLM have swindled, that aged like milk.
Speaking of terrible left-wing remainers, let's look at Tobias Elwood.
Did you see this tweet by any chance?
Tobias Elwood?
As you know, I'm not on Twitter.
Yeah, well, I reposted it to Getter.
Let's have a read, shall we?
He deleted this.
The free market experiment is over.
It's been a low point in our party's great history.
The reset begins.
Time for a centrist, stable, fiscally responsible government offering credible domestic and international leadership.
Honoured to be the 100th MP to support Rishi Sunak.
Hashtag ready for Rishi.
Total mask-off moment.
Mask-off.
Reset.
Why not just write it in Chinese?
I mean, it's just extraordinary.
And you know something, though?
It's hiding in plain sight.
And all the people that succeed ideologically have always actually been pretty upfront about what they're going to do.
If you think about it, Stalin's five-year plan.
He didn't hide it away, did he?
He didn't go, I think I'm going to do a five-year plan.
They don't tell anyone.
He went, no, I'm going to do a five-year plan.
Yeah, I do love the idea that...
So when I was invited on Talk to talk about the Great Reset, they'd been calling people conspiracy theorists for ages.
Oh, yeah, with Mike Graham.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How terrible.
Yeah, and so when I went and talked to Peter about it, he was like, okay, can you explain it?
I was like, okay, here's the articles on their website where they're literally just laying out this is what they're thinking.
And so the idea...
I mean, he's only deleted this because of the optics, but 100% he's on board with it.
The idea...
He's literally saying in the first sentence, the free market experiment is over.
Right, so you want a planned economy where you can tell us what to do.
Great.
Thank you for saying that you're a socialist.
Brilliant.
But then we're seeing more and more of this in the Tory party.
Did you see Steve Baker the other day saying, I consider myself a man of the free market left?
Steve Baker, what a rhyming...
rhyming with Hunt he is.
I've got to be so careful!
Snakey...
Do you know what?
I met Steve Baker at an event, I won't say which event it was, the end of last year, and my blood ran cold.
It was like looking into the eyes of the snake in the jungle book.
You know, trust me!
And I was like...
I don't really want to shake your hand in case I... See, I was really disappointed because he'd...
Dreadful man.
He'd retweeted a clip from me before about Net Zero.
I believe he follows me on Twitter as well.
We ran into him at a Tory party conference and he thanked us for being lockdown sceptics as an outlet.
And then immediately comes out and does that.
And back soon, actually.
And it's like, okay, so there's faux libertarianism you purport to push.
Completely faux.
He's a traitor.
It's careerism.
Yeah, absolute careerism.
I wonder if that's why you have an archived but deleted profile on the World Economic Forum's website.
Nobody's ever asked him about it, but I would love to know.
Including the lockdown sceptics.
People that were aligned with him never asked him about that.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, Desmond Swain has come round to backing Rishi Sunak, and he was saying about all inflation is due to Ukraine the other day.
And then it turns out he was involved in inviting Bill Gates to Parliament.
Not great.
Yeah.
Not wonderful.
I mean, God almighty.
We literally have Christopher Chope.
That's the only person left.
Exactly.
God bless the Christopher Chope.
Yeah.
So if we can go to the next one.
The reason Elwood, he actually had the whip withdrawal as well because he was not showing up for a confidence vote for Boris Johnson.
But this was a little while ago.
he is actually saying we should rejoin the EU.
Given the gargantuan economic challenges ahead, we must dare to assess how Brexit, the biggest geopolitical decision of the generation, is faring.
So loaded is the B word, which I'd like to call you.
Many may prefer to steer clear of the subject, but this would be a dereliction of duty.
If an army general, mid-battle, is mature enough to finesse his strategy to secure mission success, then government should do the same.
Let's have the courage to dare to make operational amendments as we seek to leverage greater success.
Basically, reverse your democratic decision.
Here's my attempt of how we might alter the adjustment, Adjust the filter to better maximise our Brexit fortunes.
Political distance from Brussels has been achieved.
That's not up for question.
Yet.
However, economically speaking, there is vast movement for improvement.
As a recent YouGov poll indicates...
By the way, do you know who set up YouGov, by any chance?
No.
Nadim Zahawi.
Wow.
Yeah.
And isn't it funny how all of the COVID measures he pushed had a 72% positive response?
Wow.
Yeah, not suspicious in the slightest.
This is not the Brexit most people imagined.
With the majority believing Brexit has gone badly, there is appetite to make improvements, not U-turns, but course corrections.
In a nutshell, all these challenges would disappear if we dare to advance our Brexit model by rejoining the EU single market.
Leaving this aspect of the EU was not on the ballot paper nor called for by either the Prime Minister or Nigel Farage during the referendum.
This was, however, much of the discussion about returning to a common market, which is exactly what I propose.
Yes.
It's bean counting and graphs rather than discussing the actual cultural national identity reasons that people voted for Brexit in the first place.
That's why Georgia Maloney has gotten elected in Italy or the Swedish party that has been called far right have been elected.
Whether or not they've got the most right wing policies in the world.
Maloney is actually kind of soft on the EU, kind of soft on NATO.
When she was on the campaign trail, she was talking about family, country, normality in many respects and galvanizing national identity together.
but you never hear any of that language out the mouths of any of the Conservative politicians whatsoever.
No.
This is the one that he's cited in saying that it's the deficit of Brexit.
Okay, then clearly our policies require some adjustments.
Right?
Actual trade policies require adjustments.
But is it not up to the individual manufacturers to make things specification to export them?
Otherwise, we're just being punished by the European super-state for not agreeing with all of their political prescriptions for an army entering Africa, or rainbow Europe controlling the police, and things like this.
Yeah.
Yeah, so frustrating.
So, the backlash to this to Elwood, for example, being a managerial, as published in The Guardian.
Yeah.
I think perhaps we should have a pause, maybe, and leave this until Tuesday when we all return, because I do worry about where it's descending, Elwood had told Times Radio at the time.
The party in itself must work together what happens wherever the party goes, and it's important that we do remain civil.
But you can't get away from the fact there are genuine concerns which just aren't reflected in party members, but also in the polling and local elections, no doubt by by-elections as well, and these issues need to be addressed.
It's not just the culture of how number 10 was governed, but also the direction of the party, where we go to meet the very huge challenges that lie ahead.
Again, very disconnected from the base, because at the time, and I wanted Boris gone, I wanted him for a more conservative MP, but didn't really seem to exist, but the base didn't want Boris gone.
He was ousted by the internal MPs.
Yeah.
removing people that seem like a challenge even though Boris policy-wise wasn't even a challenge at all and also don't forget that if we're talking about um putting my conspiracy theory hat on even though I've been right about most things that are called conspiracy theories that the agenda for 2030 uh in has to include Europe uh and and us within it because the world essentially what these people want is to carve the world up into areas and we're Europe and you know
if Europe will be sort of area I don't know it's 51 or 52 to do whatever it is Airstrip 1 from 1984, yeah.
Airstrip 1 because that's genuinely what the plan has been.
Actually, to be honest, way before Brexit, And also, we haven't mentioned the 2008 financial meltdown where the banks were not punished.
Nobody really took any responsibility for it.
And we're seeing it now.
So we're seeing a kind of very strange culmination of some people waking up, like us, and then some people just still dozing and thinking, oh, it's all going to be okay.
We're going into, as a paradigm shift, huge change.
Well, in 2015, the banks, pretty much every major bank, including Goldman Sachs, which the former Prime Minister used to work at, and the UK Cabinet Office and the Australian government all coordinated on a consultancy for Blueprint for Digital Identity, which included a corporate identity and your ability to vote being tied to your citizen's ID and citizen's wallet.
And it's like, right, that's not concerning at all.
I didn't vote for that.
So after the banks just screwed up the entire economy and we paid tons in taxes to bail them out, Now they're talking about making us accord to a digital ID in order to vote.
How very democratic of you.
Fantastic.
It's almost like it's been planned.
Oh, you conspiracy theorist.
I know, terrible.
So then Mark Harper, a senior Conservative MP, who submitted a no-confidence letter to Boris Johnson at the time, said he categorically disagreed with Elwood and it was clear that Brexit meant leaving the single market and putting an end to freedom of movement at the end.
Now Mark Harper, if you remember, was again one of these politicians that seemed somewhat alright.
He led the COVID recovery group, he was coming out against lockdowns, And then he supports Rishi Sunak.
And you see a lot of them just falling into line with the uniparty narrative and political expediency.
So Parliament's just filled with disappointments.
How about we go onto the opposition benches?
Who have we got to look forward to with our first female leader of the Labour Party?
So Keir Starmer went on LBC with Nick Ferrari and a woman called in and said, I'm a lifelong Labour voter, but I don't want to be a Labour member anymore.
And the reason is I don't trust that you're going to do, first of all, all-female shortlists, which has resulted in excellent people like Claudia Webb.
But I don't trust that you're not going to bar Eddie Izzard from it.
So how are you going to protect women's rights?
And will Eddie Izzard make an all-female shortlist?
Let's listen to Keir Starmer's very clear and concise answer, shall we?
I think the important question for me and a lot of the women that I know and women within Women's Rights Network want to know is do you support all women's shortlists and if so would someone like Eddie Izzard have a place on those shortlists?
Well, Vic, let me just set this out as a matter of principle, starting with perhaps the obvious, that for 99.9% of women, everything is a matter of biology, and I'm very, very supportive of that.
We have been the party of equality for women for many, many years, and lots of the changes in the laws in relation to equality have been because of a Labour government.
I also believe strongly in the Equality Act, and that means safe spaces for women.
And I myself worked hard when I was director of public prosecutions on issues of violence against women and girls, so I've seen firsthand how important that is.
But, Vicky, what I wouldn't leave out of account is there is a small percentage, a small group of people who do not identify with the gender that they were born into, and they go through a huge amount of stress If you talk to some of the parents of teenagers who are confused and concerned and can't get the medical treatment they want...
I think that we should be compassionate and we should recognise that we already have a law in place for gender recognition.
That needs to be modernised.
So that's in principle where I am on it, Vicky.
Would Eddie Izzard qualify to be on the Labour all-women shortlist?
Well, Nick, I'm not going to discuss individuals.
Obviously, we'll look at each case as they come up, but I'm not going to discuss individuals on a programme like this.
Well, one of your colleagues has, Rosie Duffield, has said she would leave the Labour Party.
Quotes, I will not be a hypocrite.
I won't lie down.
I won't say that a man is a woman.
Eddie Izzard is not a woman.
I'm absolutely not the only Labour woman MP who will leave the party if Eddie Izzard gets to an all-women shortlist.
So I ask again, in the view of the Labour leader, you're the leader of the party, can Eddie Izzard be on an all-women shortlist for the seat of Sheffield Central?
Well, Nick, I'm not going to discuss individual cases.
I know Rosie Duffield's position.
My position is, as I've set out, as I say, for 99.9% of women, it's a matter of biology.
I completely support that.
There is a small percentage.
So Eddie Izzard could qualify.
Struggle with their gender.
I'm not going to simply put that on one side.
No, indeed.
And ignore that.
But Eddie Izzard could sit on an all-women shortlist.
Well, Nick, I'm not going to discuss individual cases.
You just won't give me a comment on that.
I'm not going to discuss individual cases.
Of course.
There we go.
You cowardly bastard.
Honest to God.
Actually, I saw Eddie Izar tweeted, he was on the long list, so I put underneath it, as an alter ego, do you mean the schlong list?
I'll tell you what, that got a lot of likes.
How terribly transphobic of you.
I do think it's hilarious how, definitionally, biology is a binary, and then he goes, So for 99%, and then for 1% of people have this magical power to outthink reality.
And so we must accommodate them.
The scary part of that, though, is that people brushed over, they didn't see much commentary on, was in his appeal to why we should be compassionate and understanding.
He said, you speak to parents of teenagers who are confused about their gender and they can't get the medical treatment they need.
So he just endorsed gender transitioning children.
Correct.
And if you look at mermaids and, well, the Tavistock Institute that was closed down, you bloody well could get treatment.
They were giving out, you know, they're giving out puberty blockers.
Breastbinders to children.
Breastbinders like sweets.
So he is a liar and he's a traitor.
Not just to women, to men.
And also this idea that 99...
He's lying.
99.9% of women, it's biological.
No, I think you'll find it's 100% biological if you're born a woman with large gametes.
Smaller bones, wider hips, all that sort of stuff, which you can see with your eyes.
Yeah, and it's not compassionate to people that do actually struggle to give them these irreversible surgeries.
Yeah, dreadful.
As Richie Heron, for example, at the LGB Alliance conference that we went to on last Friday told us, he said, I don't think it should be allowed for anyone because you're consenting to something you don't realise at the time when you might have something else going on in your life.
They've misdiagnosed it.
Yeah, precisely.
But he's currently leading in the polls.
What a depressing thought that is.
Christ alive.
By conservative incompetence, he's winning by default.
And he said, I'm going to criminalise misgendering and we should allow gender surgeries for children.
That's ridiculous.
Two sexes, two genders.
That's it.
Somebody should stand.
People would need to stand, you know, with, again, they can add that on the whiteboard.
Whoever, whatever the Conservative Party becomes, whether it's like an amalgamation of whatever, they can add that.
Yeah, it's basically GCSE revision notes on how to run the country.
How frustrating.
Speaking of Labour stupidity, if we can go on to the next one, I just really enjoyed the story.
Nobody's covered it yet.
Zora Sultana was complaining, she's a daft MP, about how to get to a protest she was going to.
She was travelling to a rally organised by Cost of Living campaign, Enough is Enough.
And she actually tweeted, if we can scroll down to the tweet, please, John, that's embedded in this article.
I'll read it out.
My train to Leeds for tonight's Enough is Enough rally has been stopped just outside London for the last three hours.
I'm sorry not to be there, Leeds.
Just another reminder that we need to bring rail into public ownership and make it fit to the future.
Just quite interesting, if we can just scroll down to the rail company's response.
I'm sorry for the delays, Ara.
This was due to damage to the overhead electric wires, meaning services could not move around Stevenage.
But services are now on the move.
On your other point, LNER is owned by the DFT after Franchise was handed back in 2018.
So they are publicly owned.
You silly cow!
Yeah, so the Labour fix-all solution, which you probably should have researched before you tweeted it, love, isn't going to work.
No shock that she hoped this didn't really make the rounds, but again, she is leading.
And this is the result of your all-woman shortlist.
We should absolutely have female MPs fighting for actual women's interests, but one, they have to know what a woman is first, and two, maybe select them based on merit, rather than being, I mean, their brains having absolutely no wrinkles in it.
So here's the problem.
Are there any alternatives at all?
And we go on to here.
Reform UK and the SDP have announced a pact.
And the SDP years ago was rising in the polls as a socially conservative alternative to Labour.
And Reform UK are marketing themselves as a fiscally responsible patriotic alternative to the Conservative Party.
But they've obviously lost Nigel Farage as a figurehead.
So that is a major blow.
So as much as they want to have an electoral pact, I don't see this lasting five minutes because they have absolutely antithetical economic perspectives.
Yes, I did think that.
I mean, and also Richard Tice is just, he reminds me of a bank manager, you know, in his suit and just quite very, he's beige, Richard Tice.
And whenever I watch him, I'm like, oh God, quite good looking.
I can see why Isabel Oakeshott wants a bit, you know, wants a bit of that chiselled face.
But...
You're going to get me so banned from top TV. But he's...
I remember someone telling me they went to one of the meetings, reform meetings, you know, I was going to say rally, that sounds a bit weird, but earlier this year, and when he was talking about Ukraine and literally going, oh, Zelensky, Zelensky, aren't you wonderful?
People were shouting, get off from the back.
There was proper heckling.
Animus, yeah.
Animus.
So Richard Tice, to me, is establishment through and through.
If you said to him, what do you stand for?
What are your principles?
He'd kind of go...
It would just be like a pause.
I don't necessarily dislike the guy.
He actually is in my constituency.
He's in Bexley.
And I think his re-nationalising the energy plan is stupid.
But I think the problem is he's utterly uninspiring compared to his predecessor.
And you do need Nigel Farage.
That's it.
He is the man of the moment.
He's probably the only person possible that can galvanise the patriotic right in the country.
I just wish he'd make his effing mind up.
Yes.
Like, stop, you know, ding this.
Am I going to go here?
Am I going to go out?
Am I going to save the country?
Am I going to do this?
You know, it's great, but he has to be decisive.
It's a bit like the mosque Twitter takeover.
Do it.
Just do it.
Don't sort of haver around, because then people get nervous.
That'll be interesting to watch how that plays out this week.
Although the markets get nervous as well.
Yeah, well, a lot of the markets are manipulation.
We know how BlackRock's behind the scenes and even the Chancellor.
So if we go on to the next one, our friend of the show, the wonderful Calvin Robinson, he has this on his channel.
He actually did a roundtable with some of the marginal parties.
David Curtin of the Heritage Party didn't show up.
The revitalised UKIP has shown up, but they've been, again, fighting like rats in the sack for the last few years, so they've sabotaged their chance in the polls.
Friends of the show again, Lawrence Fox showed up and decided to lambast people who showed too much ego to make an appearance, because as you alluded to, Richard Tice was not a member of this.
Even though the SDP weren't there in electoral pact reform.
And so good on Calvin, seriously, for trying to bring the marginal parties together.
It's just a very difficult uphill battle.
And so we come on to the one man who can do it.
We can.
Nigel Farage has basically said, I can't do this on my own.
Now, this was quite cryptically worded video.
We're not going to watch it.
Go watch it in your own time.
Also, turn your notifications off, Nigel, because you keep getting texts during the actual filming.
Ding!
But he's clearly alluding to the fact that he wants to do something here.
I'm just afraid that he's going to stay in his media role and be a backer rather than be the front man because, frankly, I don't think anyone else can do it.
Yeah.
He's...
The great thing about Nigel is he is not everyone's cup of tea, as in personally, you know, but you've got to have a spine of steel to be a political leader.
You cannot...
I mean, look at Margaret Thatcher.
That's the thing.
If she was all kind of, like, cuddly and nice and sort of like, oh, isn't that lovely and media savvy, like the Tice of this world, she would never have done what she did.
You have to have a certain element of, oh, blimey, you know, when you're around people like that.
Yeah.
So I agree.
And Farage needs to galvanise.
This is the problem, you see, with Clouston and people like that.
William Clouston, the SDP guy.
Again, leftist economic policy.
I don't really...
I don't get that.
I don't fancy sabotaging the country just for a convenient alliance.
No, we've had enough of that.
The Keynesian sort of mess.
We need people with...
Well, again, we're back to first principles.
There we go.
Full circle.
Good note to end on.
Yeah.
Wonderful.
Okay.
On to our next topic, I suppose, then.
I'm going to put you through...
Well, I suppose we've heard a lot about how leftists are practicing repressive tolerance.
You obviously already alluded to Marcuse in a prior segment.
It was his academic justification for hypocritical permission of left-wing violence but suppressing right-wing speech.
We've seen the result of all this tolerance now, the ubiquity of gender fluidity and drag basically everywhere.
Fortunately, at least in America, some of the Republicans have decided enough is enough.
And started the legislative fight back.
So I think it's worth going over it and seeing what cues we can take from that.
Indeed.
Yeah.
So if we go on to here, SpaceX have sponsored, speaking of Elon Musk, a drag event from a person named Harlot Hussey, who is spreading their legs and rubbing their genitals in front of children in Waco, Texas.
Keep your jokes about Waco to yourself, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah.
We won't say anything here.
But this is the kind of thing that's being opposed.
But it's being tolerated by the leftists and finally opposed by the quote-unquote rightists.
If you'd like to see more about repressive tolerance, we can go on to our next thing.
You can go and subscribe to the website and listen to Harry and I going through Michael Knowles' book Speechless.
And he basically lays out a framework of how the right wing can crack down on this kind of thing.
So it's a useful little road map.
So we've obviously seen a little bit of pushback being started.
And one of those is Kelly J. Keene.
Love her.
What a warrior.
She has had her Portland speech tour cancelled because she's been threatened with death.
We'll just listen to her apologetic explanation for something that she shouldn't really be apologising for, but she's meaning to fight on.
Special good morning to people in Portland.
Antifa are bussing in.
And I've been told by both locals in Seattle and in Portland that That Antifa have killed people and kind of got away with it.
I've also got communication from the police.
I will publish it but the gist of it is whilst you have the right to free speech we won't protect your right to free speech.
I feel really bad because I feel like we shouldn't be afraid and I feel like the public square should be safe for women but it's been really made very clear that it's not going to be safe.
And I know I say I always win, and I think winning actually is walking away from this alive.
Don't give in to fear, KJK. I'm not giving in to fear.
I'm actually giving in to my responsibility to my kids.
Whilst they probably think I'm an idiot most of the time, I think they probably are better off with me than without me.
So, look, Portland is not completely off-limits, but Portland is off-limits if I don't have a huge budget for security, or certainly to do something that would minimise the risk to myself and other women.
I promise you, I've got some fantastic ideas about what we can do.
It is, you know, everything that we do here has to be with a little bit of wit, and so there are some things that I really do feel will help the cause.
So I hope That you forgive me for not doing Portland and I hope that you will help me by donating to GiveButter or StandingForWomen.com forward slash documentary.
So there we go.
There's another one of the speeches as well where a stunning and brave trans woman sprinted over to assault someone and they had to be tackled.
So they're clearly happy to let women speak.
It's getting utterly ridiculous.
I'll tell you what I love.
One of my favourite moments was when...
Do you remember when the male won the women's swimming?
Leah Thomas.
That's the one, Leah Thomas.
How can I forget?
She'll be Thomas Leah.
And then Kelly was in, Keane was in the audience and she shouted out, you're a bloke!
Oh my God!
I was just like, that's the moment.
We have to be just completely disagreeable with this kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Intolerant of intolerance.
Exactly.
She's doing her best, but unfortunately, as we can see in the next one that Andy Noah's documented, this is the reason she's had to cancel it.
It's because people are literally threatening to throw pies in her face, the contents of which we don't know, because obviously Antifa have thrown milkshakes with ready-set concrete in them before, and bricks.
And of course, Andy himself is subject to a brutal beating, which left him with a bleed on the brain.
And now he's been exiled to London.
But it's always nice to see him at random events.
So we're kind of glad to have him in the UK.
Here's Antifa.
So yeah, I don't blame her for needing much more security.
But it's literally just a woman speaking about biological facts.
And now she's being hounded by people in black with delusional identity disorders.
That's the state the civilization is in.
The issue is, these people are acting like they're the resistance when they're sponsored, as we saw by the SpaceX drag event, and as we saw in a prior segment I did with Calvin Robinson, for example, the Vanguard sponsors stuff.
Every institution is on their side.
Yeah.
How are you some kind of political resistance when every major power structure is supporting your gender ideology?
Yes, correct.
In fact, this is a point that I made quite a lot of times on Free Speech Nation, you know, Andrew Doyle's show on GB News.
And I made it a lot when some of the argument on the left is that this is the equivalent of Mary Whitehouse, the sort of puritanical side.
Who wasn't wrong?
And the argument that I made was that Mary Whitehouse, whatever you think of her views, did not go into every single institution and be backed by capitalism.
This is...
Far more, I mean, this is like, this has spread its tentacles out into everything.
So I say again, and I used to just literally bang on about it and say, this is Maoist.
This is a sort of, this is just, yeah, I mean, there's going to have to be a big pushback against all this stuff.
Well, we're seeing it start, but let's look at exactly, as you alluded to, where all the tendrils are, shall we?
As we've covered, that's the SpaceX event.
If you can go to the next one, please, John.
So, I got my start in politics mainly, my political awareness, because I'm a gigantic nerd.
Like, I have an entire library of DC Comics, and they've corrupted that.
Oh, bless you.
Thanks, Mum.
I feel like I've corrupted you.
So, I got very upset when they decided to race and gender swap all my favourite characters and tell me I'm a racist, even though I gave them a job by buying the books.
There's Drag Queen Story Hour at London Comic-Con.
Why?
Why is it there?
It's everywhere.
Why?
Like, they recently lied to parents and said, oh, it's just pantomime dames reading to your kids to get them to stop protesting it, as we already covered.
This is being paid for by the taxpayer in publicly funded libraries, and now it's at Comic-Con conventions.
Yeah.
I've never seen a pantomime dame, when I was a kid, get their cock out.
In the middle of Cinderella.
I mean, seriously.
Oh, hello, Buttons!
What are you doing down there?
I mean, good grief!
Finished by midnight.
Is that a pumpkin?
Were you pleased to see me?
I mean, this is just all...
This is evil.
This is where me and James Dellingpole absolutely align.
This is evil.
Satan walks the earth.
Yes, well, speaking of religious zealotry, it's in the church as well.
We go to the next one.
Should we listen to how this transsexual vicar says homosexuality doesn't exist?
Let's play the clip.
Homosexual autism doesn't really exist, because it can only exist in a binary.
Right.
Okay.
Great.
You've got a transgender flag as your dog collar and you're saying gay people don't exist.
Oh, vile.
Yeah.
And this is the thing that is just extraordinary.
These people who are supposed to be tolerant and kind, they are actually trying to erase sexuality full stop.
Yeah.
Not just straight people.
Gay people.
So it's...
I don't know.
I mean, it's just...
These people used to be on the fringes.
If I met people like this, I'd kind of go, oh, thank God.
I've only met them once at a party and I'll never meet them again.
Yeah, they won't be invited again.
Don't we?
They won't be.
We invite again, exactly.
What are they doing?
Meet them in a kitchen and think, oh dear.
Now, they're actually throwing the parties.
I mean, they're in charge.
And that's weird.
The phrase that Callum uses often is, we live in a minoritarian society where we've got no real religious purpose to ourselves.
The new religion is exalting the oppressed to positions of power.
And so, rather than patriotism, rather than Christianity, our national sentiment is this collective project of upholding the least among us, like some sort of pity party.
And unfortunately, the least among us can be very malevolent and have some terrible ideas, like this person, who I would not go to for spiritual guidance.
And of course, the least and the most vulnerable children are being put on the altar.
They're being sacrificed for these people.
So we're back to the evil, back to the Satanists again.
We'll get to that at the end of the segment, because I've got something very dispiriting relating to the church and gender ideologues not protecting children.
I won't allude to it.
We've gone to the next one.
The healthcare system as well is doing the same thing.
So even though Tavistock Clinic has been closed down, NHS doctors are being taught about gender unicorns and gender F identities, according to leaked training to The Telegraph.
Dozens of healthcare service staff attended a session about gender diversity last week delivered by the Devon Partnership NHS Trust.
The two-hour session displayed a diagram of a gender unicorn with sliding scales of male, female, and other identities alongside spectrums of gender expression, sex assigned at birth, and physical and emotional attraction.
Later in the class, medics were shown 11 examples of gender expressions, including non-binary, agender, neutroid, demigender, polygender, androgynin, and fembutch.
They just played an episode of Orange is the New Black, I'm sure.
Attendees were left in visible disbelief when the NHS gender clinic worker leading the session introduced another identity, gender F, which they explained was when people don't give an F about gender.
Well, that's my political position at this point.
That's you and me!
Dox was told about kinks in another slide, setting out the LGBTQ umbrella, with BDSM also mentioned as a community closely linked to trans.
Specifically nooses.
Another PowerPoint on terminology mentioned TERF, trans-exclusionary radical feminist, considered a slur for those critical of trans activism, with authors J.K. Rowling and Jermaine Greer mentioned by a trainee as an example of this.
One NHS member told The Telegraph they went down a list of gender identities and talked about gender F. People in the audience were smirking.
They felt a bit uncomfortable.
It was almost Alan Partridge-esque.
Why did we need to be exposed to that kind of language?
So we all know it's ridiculous, but nobody's willing to stick their head above a parapet because, again, this person didn't want to be named.
And I understand why.
You don't want to lose your job.
But we are basically under the boot heel of an ideology of a couple of fringe weirdos who...
We'll not be exactly continuing the civilisation if we continue on.
But it's also, why don't people kind of like...
Are they sort of starting to think, well, hang on a minute, you're talking about unicorns.
Unicorns are imaginary.
Yeah.
They don't exist.
Why don't they choose an animal that actually, you know, exists?
The gender frog.
Exactly.
Mainly because their hair colour is the same as the poisonous frogs in the rainforest.
That would actually fit quite better, yeah, wouldn't it?
But we saw how changing...
And mermaids.
Mermaids don't exist.
Yeah.
No.
And also they haven't got a leg to stand on.
Thank you very much.
I love that.
I love that joke.
It's very clever.
I quite like that one.
So there's also schools.
So parents have been blocked from checking their child's trans sex education lessons.
Lovely.
The Information Commissioner has ruled that materials aimed at children aged 12 and above provided by the School of Sexuality Education includes links to Mermaids, the controversial transgender children's charity, and a seven-minute video urging students to become trans allies.
Last week, they ruled that parents at Haberdasher's Hatcham College do not have the right to see the content of lessons taught by external providers.
It's like the Biden administration saying, parents are not the primary stakeholders in their children's education.
It's like, so who is?
Yeah.
Who else would have more of an interest than their parents?
than their parents.
The SOSC, which provides workshops on consent, sexual health, porn, and positive relationships.
So teaching kids about porn, great.
Through the viewpoints of decolonization and inclusivity, was hired by Hatchim College to deliver relationships and sex education sessions.
SOSC's core principles include teaching RSE to include and aim to recognize and address the impact of colonization and focus on our commitment to equity and social justice.
So it's ideological colonisation from children and you don't get a say in it.
Yes.
Again, this is why this is imperative to fight back against it and the Republicans seem to have done so.
Brilliant.
So, Representative Mike Johnson has written the Stop the Sexualization of Children Act.
Perfect framing.
We'll see which Democrats vote against that, shall we?
As an attempt by the GOP to prevent taxpayers from funding events they say expose kids to sexualized themes and radical gender theory.
The Democrat Party and their cultural allies are on a misguided crusade.
I don't think it's misguided.
I think it's intentional.
To immerse young children in sexual imagery and radical gender ideology, said Johnson, a Louisiana Republican who is the vice chair of the House Republican Conference.
This common sense bill is straightforward.
No federal tax dollars should go to any federal, state, or local government agencies or private organizations that intentionally expose children to under 10 years of age to sexually explicit materials.
So that covers anyone that gets a federal grant.
Certainly includes something like SpaceX, for example.
So this is getting rid of the corporate-sponsored events that are in...
Parks, libraries, schools, all of that sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
It's still beholden on individual schools to, of course, ban the privately funded stuff, but you're never going to get rid of it anywhere.
We'll just keep exposing it on the podcast, I suppose.
Yeah, yeah.
State and local library systems, museums and other educational institutions that receive federal grants have purchased sexually explicit literature and materials that teach pre-adolescent children and teach them about concepts like masturbation, pornography, sexual acts and gender transition.
Private organisations, state government agencies and local government agencies have made the use of federal grants to host and promote sexually-oriented events like Drag Queen Story Hour and burlesque shows.
HHS and DOD funding should be used to keep our country healthy and safe, not to stay burlesque shows for children, Johnson said.
I don't understand how that's contentious, but apparently, because the Democrats...
We'll schedule a vote on this while they're still running the floor in the next week or so before the midterms.
It's probably going to be voted down, but it'll probably be resurrected after Republicans win the midterm elections in November.
God willing.
Unfortunately, over in the UK, we haven't really taken the lead on this because the incumbent government...
Labour, obviously, are supporting Mermaids and Munro Bergdorf.
Someone who said that if a white man was homeless, he'd still have more privilege than them.
Let's be polite with the pronouns, shall we?
Reminder, by the way, that one of the members of Mermaids had to step down, Jacob Breslow, because he gave a speech at a conference held by a group which advocates for paedophile acceptance.
And then their digital engagement officer posted images of himself in a schoolgirl skirt and posted naked with his bare breasts and penis for House magazine.
Lovely.
Child protection, eh?
Good God.
Fantastic.
So, what about the opposition in waiting?
That would be, if we go next, Reform UK. Now, the reason I brought this tweet up is from me, not to promote my own Twitter account, let it follow me, is because this article I tweeted out here, it was a drag queen who performed with the name Miss Rachel Rhea, and they appeared in court on charges related to the possession and production of pornography involving children, and Andrew Duncan, 24, is facing counts related to 17 pieces of child sexual abuse materials that they were found with.
Jesus Christ.
Right?
So I've tweeted out, if we go up, we'll just read this out very briefly, John.
Another one.
This is the reason why adult performers should not be allowed to interact with children.
Don't see the problem there.
Specifically, when LGBTQ plus acceptance is deployed as a rhetorical Trojan horse, not by genuine gay people, of course, to cause parents and educators to drop their safeguarding procedures.
It's to disarm you because you want to be inclusive.
Mm-hmm.
And so-called include people who have dark designs for your kids.
So jumping to the defence of this, if we go next, is this gentleman.
Max Windsor Peplow.
Now you won't know the name, I'm sure, but we'll find out who this is in a minute.
Still more people in the church have been charged for abusing children, so on that basis we can say no more children being forced to church as well.
What a stupid argument.
Because number one, the Bible says that if you abuse a child, tie a millstone around your neck and throw yourself into the sea, because you've got more likelihood of that doing well for you than being let into the gate of heaven.
Yeah.
Then there's also the fact that churches are not explicitly designed for sex, whereas drag, strip bars and burlesque shows are.
And also, the church doesn't promote the abolition of gender to confuse children, whereas these ideologies do.
But it's really weird that this guy's defending it, when if we can go to the next one, this is Bio, Reform UK, South West Area Manager.
Tice, Farage, Clean House.
Well, well, well.
Yeah, not great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you're meant to be a right-wing alternative, please make sure you get rid of these kind of people because we should be following the Americans' example and not allowing, I suppose, insidious, the word I nearly got arrested for, ideologues who have dark designs for their children to misappropriate the label of gay, lesbian, and bisexual to disarm parents of their moral prohibitions that keep children safe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's, I was just going to say, I was just thinking then that the, yeah, again, we're back to Mao because, well, I'm all leftist ideology, which is to remove children from their parents, from the family.
The whole point is you don't want parents getting involved because once, you know, we've got the children, we can indoctrinate them.
Yeah.
So you're not sitting around a dinner table discussing various topics.
Yeah.
You do that, you know, because that's the teacher's job.
So it is all very Maoist, all this stuff.
And also, Harriet Harman, I don't know if you know this, Harriet Harman back in the day, paedophile information exchange, they loved the pedos.
When her husband, the MP, died recently, he was giving a standard ovation from both wings of Parliament.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, as proven by abortion laws and gender ideology, the left don't have their own children, but they do have yours.
So let's get them out of the schools, please.
Yes.
Yeah.
I suppose on a lighter note, should we finish with this?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, feminism's pretty much done a really big disservice to women trying to have healthy and happy relationships.
It stigmatizes emotional attachment as a disease to be avoided.
I'm sure you've heard the phrase, don't catch feelings.
I think that's one of the most reprehensible things to tell anyone ever.
It encourages them to amass a body count higher than most serial killers.
And even when they settle down, they often rely on the Californication of, oh, we have to have relationship couples therapy, and if something's going wrong, it's definitely not my fault.
Today we're going to look at some of the worst dating advice given by mainly middle-aged women in press outlets in the UK who are just venting about their own failed relationships and just to say how not to love your husband.
And I thought, considering we have an authentic adult human female in the chair, I can't be accused of misogyny.
Great stuff!
Can't wait!
If you'd like to learn more damages the sexual revolution's done, you can go and subscribe to the website where you can listen to Harry and I going through Louise Perry's book, The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, and we will be getting Louise in the studio at some point to talk to her about these findings.
But I have found, specifically, that women talking to women about this issue It gives a lot more credence because, let's be fair, women will always say the men don't listen to us and we will always say our wives don't listen to us.
So there is a language barrier between the sexes.
So it's very useful for Louise to write about this sort of stuff, isn't it?
So let's go to the first one, shall we?
Don't follow this woman's advice, but it is popular on TikTok.
I'm dating so many men I need an Excel spreadsheet to organise my love life.
And I wouldn't mind, she's not exactly Cameron Diaz in the mask, is she?
A woman has gone viral with a highly organised dating strategy, creating an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of her love interests with detailed notes and photos of each of them.
A TikTok user, I'm not going to read her out, don't want the publicity, She had her dating tracker, as she calls it.
It's a detailed document stating, with a slate of checkable boxes, listing classifications from new to the mix, it's all over, all the way to we made it.
The spreadsheet also includes notes and stats for each guy, including name, insider nickname, phone number, photo, age and profession.
A red tab is used to keep track of her nose, all of the fellows she's totally rejected, while an orange tab keeps track of those that are, quote, just friends.
If she and a potential match have great conversation, she'll decide to meet up in real life, then after the date, she'll document how it went, with detailed notes on where the date took place and what she did and didn't like.
The video is striking a chord, raking in more than 2 million views.
My 61-year-old best friend did this 30 years ago and was dating 10 men at one point.
One user commented, such a queen.
Should we celebrate this complete detachment of emotional investment in someone?
Well, I mean, who's got the bloody time to do this?
You know, sort of back in the day when I was single, and by the way, what's interesting, just sorry while I remember it, is I've been married twice.
So I got married in my late 20s, and then obviously to my darling, my late husband, Terry, who passed away at the end of 2018.
A lot of people, women I know, who were sort of, you know, in my late 20s, there were a lot of people who were married.
Now, when I look at, especially comedians, especially people in the same industry, Not married.
Not in a long-term relationship.
I find that quite strange.
But I do think it's because of women like this.
And they're not helping.
Imagine having an Excel spreadsheet.
You go and meet someone and you think, right, hi, nice to meet you.
Before we start, can I just...
It wouldn't be a pad.
What's your blood type?
It would be an iPhone.
Look at me with my old school.
I do think...
In the fact that misery loves company, this is clearly someone who can't form a long-term attachment.
However, lots of women are being sold this grass is green and a lie of, oh, you can have all the men in the world, you can multi-date, you can enjoy this fleeting attachment to you while you'll get it.
The thing is, it's a long and lonely number of years if you haven't found someone.
If you've never had that love, whether or not it was unfairly taken from you, of course, it's very different to never be able to commit to someone.
And also, I'm sorry, but women nowadays are far too fussy.
I remember actually Terry saying to me, God, women nowadays, it's like, you're too tall, you're too short, your hair's the wrong colour.
You eat in a certain way.
You do this.
It's like this.
And it's like, guys, you are pricing yourself out of ever having a mate.
Did you see the Okie Cupid data where it was like 80% of women are only going for 20% of men.
So they say 80% of men are below attractiveness.
I do think the standards have been skewed by things like Instagram and things like that.
And also I hate the word, I really, I remember putting it on Facebook and getting a load of abuse for it, saying this term incels.
It's like there are guys who, how dare women sort of go, oh, who are you?
Why do you want to have a date?
Why do you want to have a sort of sexual, what's the word, life?
Why are you attracted to me?
Yeah, why are you attracted to me?
It'll go away.
And, yeah, and it's basically these guys who are sort of like Jordan Peterson says, sort of like, well, they're sort of confused.
It's like, well, hang on a minute, because I'm straight and I find that woman attractive.
Why wouldn't I... Or, you know, ask them out.
Yeah, it's not unfair to disenfranchise me just because I'm doing my best.
Like, some guys aren't putting the effort in, and you should, lads.
Go to the gym, you know, etc.
Make yourself someone worthy of dating.
But there are also women out there who are very conceited, very entitled, who lord their sexuality over other people.
And then, the unfortunate thing is, they wonder why they're very lonely and embittered and feminist down the line.
The interesting thing you say about that is, as well, the threshold for female investment and male investment of a date is completely different.
And that's why this approach doesn't work because most women I've found won't agree to a date unless they already have a sort of pre-existing attraction to the guy.
Like he's already auditioned well enough.
Whereas most guys will ask for a date at a lower threshold.
So he'll go, she seems pretty nice, I'll buy her a drink.
Whereas most women won't agree to a date until they go, he's in shape, he's got like nice wallet, nice car, he talks smooth.
And that's totally fine.
So therefore, if that's the natural disposition, why go on a million dates at once?
Yes.
It's not going to be conducive to a long-term happiness strategy.
Absolutely not.
It's very cold and calculating.
Like I said, back in the day, when things were, I think, normal, you'd be in a bar, you'd be in a club, you'd be in a restaurant, you'd meet friends of friends' parties.
Do people still have house parties?
Yeah, occasionally.
Not during lockdown, but yeah.
Yeah, well that's another thing as well, it's totally ruined the young people's, which makes me absolutely furious that people should have been out clubbing, meeting people at uni, doing enjoyable things, intimate things with each other, because that's what life is.
And also, to be honest, women are in competition with other women for men.
Sorry to state a biological fact, but it's true.
That's what I think a lot of this is, female, intrasexual competition.
I think a lot of it is, because the women that were writing Cosmo magazine, for example, telling loads of women to sleep around, have abortions, never get married, they're all married.
And so it's taking women out of the eligible dating pool.
I think it's a very snide strategy by some very insecure women.
Yeah, yeah.
Because women are, you know, we're crafty, you know?
I have unfortunately experienced that first hand.
If we go on to the next one, yeah, again, this is women not understanding why men, as you said with the incel thing, why men kind of give up after first chance.
We're kind of simple.
We kind of take you quite literally.
We kind of take you at your word.
Please don't play games because some girl tweeted out, no, the guy I kept rejecting me finally moved on.
There's a bunch of women in the replies going, That's how you know he wasn't serious in the first place.
Why did he give up?
If you repeatedly reject someone we're gonna take you at your word?
Yeah, I would highly recommend a film, Hollywood, before they became woke, called He's Just Not That Into You.
It is magnificent.
And if people knew that, if a man wants a second date, he'll ask you.
Or he'll sort of like, maybe, you know, like the next day sort of go, oh, you left, I'll tell you the other, the classic thing, little tip, if a man leave, you know, like you're out or whatever, and then leave something, He wants to see you again.
That's no accident.
Yeah, a girl stole a Santa hat at a Christmas party of mine and put a phone number in my phone.
And I was like, I'm not that bothered.
I'll let her take the hat.
So, it's true.
Brutal.
I'm sure she was nice.
I mean, it's like you just can't sort of mess, you know, you knew that that wasn't going to happen.
So, I love this.
It suddenly turned into the Abby Roberts and Connor Donaldson dating show.
Ah, you're familiar with the podcast, The Lotus Seasons, where we give sermons all the time.
Yes, wonderful.
People appreciate it.
We need it in this day and age.
People are too atomised.
Gen Z are having less sex than ever, so it's not exactly great, is it?
Yeah.
And those adverts, was it Lynx?
One of the ads where they basically had men looking at women...
Gillette.
That's it, Gillette, walking down the street and not...
It's like, that is absolutely outrageous.
Yeah.
Because I know there would have been men, you know, so maybe 15, 16, going, oh God, I better not look at her.
Because if I find her, you know, of course you might think I find her attractive.
I don't want to be accused of the wrong thing.
Precisely.
Yeah.
So you're neutering men's ability to engage in that kind of way.
Yes, and be biologically male.
Yeah, and you also should be allowed to make a mistake.
Like, if you make an awkward pass, okay, it's down to the woman to rebuke that and say no.
You should be allowed to be a bit awkward and learn and get better.
But we're not even allowing men to make mistakes.
And women, by the way, making awkward passes.
Oh, yeah.
Or doing, oh, you know, there was one time I was very drunk and someone said, I was like an octopus.
That my arms were everywhere.
You know, and you live and learn.
Yep.
When the lady petrol gets flowing.
So if you do find Mr.
Right, don't follow this woman's advice.
I tried to reboot my relationship in seven days.
Here's what's happened.
So this is very middle class.
And they actually pose for photos for this article, which I can't believe after reading it.
And he does look like a kept man.
He looks like a cock.
Yeah.
Is that Toby Young?
What, the dog at the front?
So I actually couldn't believe this article when I read it, so we'll go through some of it.
And this is like women, the modern version of Mrs Dalloway or a doll's house, basically just telling you all marriage is evil, okay?
My partner and I will never divorce.
We're not married.
However, as we stagger towards the eight-year mark, Terrence and I have been subjected to, if it's not a seven-year itch, then it's a certain energyless exasperation.
There's actually apparently an evolutionary psychological theory of if you stay with someone really long without actually committing to them or having kids, your body doesn't know the difference between won't have kids and can't have kids.
So you start distancing yourself from someone because your evolutionary drive is saying they might not be able to.
So that's quite an interesting phenomenon.
And if you're in a relationship and it goes on longer than, well, a long time, it's because the man isn't sure.
Yeah.
Sorry, ladies out there.
It's true.
But he's hedging his bets.
Yeah, that's why women should have higher standards for investment.
Don't stick with them on the first date.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I suppose I'm a misogynist for that.
Second is all right.
on our most recent holidays he was enraged by my spendthrift ways i spent eight pound 95 on a charity shop puffer jacket and i decided not to eat his student-style pasta every meal by occasionally dining out meanwhile i interpreted his attempts at non-stop micromanagement less less as the sharing of valuable life skills than as gaslighting so she's already writing about how Yeah.
Very scientific language.
Terence, last week, presented me with the American Psychologists' John and Judy Gottman's week-long Divorce Proof Your Marriage Project.
Presumably, the plan also works for us living in sin.
Accordingly, we'll be the first Brits to put the Gottman prescription to the test.
Over seven days, we'll ask you to learn seven new habits.
They'll be easy, quick, and fun.
All you need is the willingness to try.
So these seven habits are...
Day two, ask a big question.
Day three, say thank you.
Day four, give a real and genuine compliment.
Day five, ask for what you need from the other person.
Day six, engage in non-intimate touching.
So just like hugging and stuff.
And day seven, make a date night.
So does any of that sound particularly controversial or difficult?
No, not at all.
So she hates this all the way through and documents each day, right?
Day one, Monday, involves turning towards.
When one person attempts to initiate a small connection by making a bid, it could be physical or verbal, overt or subtle, then their partner responds in one or three ways.
They turn towards that bid, turn away, or turn against it.
And his example is, you know like the other day when you joked about when my friend Tom was my gay lover telling me you'd be fine with it without even looking up from your laptop?
She says, well, I should have made eye contact.
He goes, exactly.
The Gottmans are my people.
I've been begging for connection for years.
That's kind of sad.
You're belittling him and insulting him and saying, oh, I bet you're gay, aren't you?
You're cheating on me, aren't you?
You don't even look up from your laptop when you're degrading and he's saying, can I just have a conversation and look at you while you insult me?
Yeah.
So I wonder if she's contributing to the demolition.
She says, The 12 hours of turning that ensue are intermitable.
Terrence forever twinkling his eyes at me, initiating regulation's six-second snogs and pressing his clammy forehead against mine by way of dropping coins in our love piggy bank.
It's like going out with a needy 14-year-old girl, flipping him the bird deemed a negative turning only.
Finally, beaten, I agree to sit head-to-toe with him on the sofa, hound in the middle, maintaining physical contact with them both.
I continue to scream in horror every time I look up and catch him gazing concertedly back at me.
Again, she got paid to write this.
And they posed for photos after they wrote it.
Can I just say, Terence, if you're watching, that's the name of my late husband, leave.
Run, mate.
Leave.
Run.
Just run.
Do you know something?
When I was listening to that, I was like, this isn't a really...
I mean, this is a hostage situation.
Genuinely.
It's like, because my darling husband, Terence, from day...
You know, he always used to walk on the traffic side of the road.
I do that, yeah.
All the time.
Yeah.
And actually, I'd sort of go, and when I first met him, I was a bit like, oh, no, why are you doing that?
He said, because if a van comes, you're toast, basically.
And also, if we were staying somewhere, he would go on the door side.
And I used to go, why are you sitting on that side?
He said, because if somebody just happened to break in...
I'm there.
Yeah, I sleep on the outside of the bed.
If you're on the other side, I was like, oh my god.
So he was absolutely, you know, just like...
Yeah, but that's how you should think.
Put me first.
I would also say that then she is taking advantage of this by treating him with utter contempt when he seems genuinely concerned.
Yeah, and being a complete bitch.
Yeah.
But if you're making a joke about, you know, making a joke about, could you be gay?
I mean, the fact that she literally didn't even look up to have a joking, sort of like, oh, don't worry, I'm only rubbing you, that suggests that actually, I mean, how long have they been together for?
It's eight years.
Oh dear.
Eight wasted years, Terrence.
Yeah, it's contempt, yeah.
But you can still get out.
She can't.
By the way, they don't have any kids.
Right.
Well, even more reason.
Just go.
Find someone.
Find a nicer woman.
Yeah, find a nicer woman who will sort of look at you when she's accusing you of being gay.
And who also doesn't make money putting your miserable relationship out on the internet.
That's so awful!
So day two, Tuesday, still only day two.
He's still there?
Yeah.
hasn't killed her yet required to ask a big question please god no I catch myself musing Terence limbering up for some particularly platitudinous profundities what are your life dreams he demands direct from the government inventory I inform him that being English I choose not to admit these things to myself let alone other people it's an entirely internalised issue She's taking it on him.
It's a Black Panther.
Okay, if you wake up tomorrow with three new skills, what would you pick?
And you can see how he's doing, like, these first date-style fun questions, which are actually quite good.
And she responds with, We proceed to have an argument about why flight is inadmissible and his proposed ability to invoice not only dull but controlling.
God.
Psycho.
Absolute psycho.
She's an animal.
She's a cobra.
She's a scorpion.
Viper.
Day three.
72 hours into future-proofing our relationship.
Said relationship is at breaking point.
Wednesday's obligation to say thank you, aka turn yourself insufferably American, has escalated to the point of toe-curling sincerity, Terrence, and blistering facetiousness, me.
Apparently, couples are generally nice to each other.
It's just that 50% of the time, their other halves focus on the negative rather than the positive.
focus is the apocalyptic chaos that Terence creates a pool of festering dirt and debris he drags in his wake forcing me into a 50s housewife mode meanwhile he frets at my lack of financial responsibility when we in an old age supporting another pensioner with a Claridge's habit and only a Hermes scarf collection to her name so he might be right about your financial irresponsibility Yeah.
And while all the while, both of us are working our backsides off to keep the domestic show on the road.
Day four.
And yet, today is another assignment.
To follow each other around with notepads recording every positive thing the other does is the straw that breaks the belligerent 50-year-old camel's back.
The day starts with the discovery of a note expressing gratitude for the, quote, very you-ness of being you next to the kettle.
A little bit cheesy, but still he's trying.
An act that is simply too ghastly to contemplate before the day's protective caffeine shell has been established.
Worse so, nauseatingly in this project, is that Terence has got himself ahead and started incorporating Thursday's behaviours, giving compliments, and Saturday's non-sexual touch into his repertoire.
So he's hugging you and saying you look nice.
Oh, the horror!
Oh, dear.
Terence...
There are a few things that repulse me more.
The dog howls whipped into a green-eyed frenzy.
I feel utterly claustrophobic, stalked in my own home by a life partner turned dodgy uncle.
She's a psychopath.
Yeah.
He's mentally ill.
So they make it to day five.
I flash forward and ask what I need, since we all have valid desires, but we don't say them, we drop hints, we suggest.
We hope our partners will just know.
Terrence, I announce, we need to stop doing this anti-divorce course.
It is destroying me and thus us.
We then set up a date fortress Sunday's task, which Terrence takes to be some sort of boy's own adventure style den.
So we made a pillow for them, which sounds quite fun.
Childish, but fun.
And I understand to be a hot date with a Michelin star.
So she went to a restaurant alone and left them indoors.
Oh my God, when they could have just had great fun being kids, being childish and whatever.
Do you know something?
I haven't just remembered because obviously it's a lot in my head, but my husband, Terence, used to leave me little notes.
If I was coming to London, because we lived in Durham, I'd sort of leave and then open my wallet and go to pay for something and then there would be...
And he'd always do a little cartoon of him and really gorgeous.
So, you know, it's like those things, they're...
I mean, she clearly...
Yeah, they shouldn't be together.
That's my advice.
Well, she seems to suggest that in the final paragraph.
In fact, it's just more bloody talking, yet another investment in our mutual future, a future looking less likely by the second.
I pled for us to sleep together in sense, silently without eye contact or gratitude regarding the other's performance.
Have we grown?
Terrence has grown significantly creepier.
Are we still together?
Just.
Again, she got paid to publish and write this.
No eye contact ever.
Yeah.
Nothing says intimacy.
Like...
Don't look at me.
Don't look at me.
Yeah.
While I call you gay from over the room with my laptop.
And then hold up like an East German judge at the end of like a scorecard.
That was disgraceful.
Don't ever go in...
I was going to say something very rude then.
Yep.
And I stuck myself...
We're learning and growing on the podcast.
We are learning and growing.
She clearly isn't.
So, just a little detour.
This does remind me of a segment Carl did a little while ago, and it was talking about Katie Glass's articles, and basically a single woman who documented her post-divorce venture out into the countryside of The Telegraph, and how she...
Childless and spinster could not fit her way into a Cornish community because she was an outsider because she was clearly part of the London bubble.
And it's like, ladies, you may want to be able to establish an emotional connection with someone, dismantle yourself of your ego, don't always chase the vapid dream of doing social media or writing, and instead settle down with someone in the short time that we're given.
This didn't play out for another woman in The Guardian.
We'll finish on this.
Of course.
Why did this young man have such a hold on me?
How dating someone half my age rebooted my sex life.
Nothing says maturity like that.
So she's complaining about how she lived in California for a decade, moved back to Britain in 2018, and no man talked to her because she hit nearly middle age.
and her attention dropped off the map shortly after a divorce.
The move to London was preceded by Donald Trump being elected to office around the time my divorce was filed, around the time I turned 40.
His disgust at middle-aged women and the palpable loathing he and his wife exuded when pictured together alchemised a feeling I'd been marinating.
Having been sexually active since the age of 16, which is sad, Wow.
So from the moment Trump was inaugurated, I'd stopped having sex, like some kind of Democrat licestrata, and kissing and holding hands and swore not to relent until he was gone.
So you've politicised your sex life and wondered why you couldn't foster an intimate connection.
And throughout this, she talks about her ex-husband, who's also a Guardian writer, and she talks about him with sheer contempt.
So when she comes back to the UK, her friends convinced her to join a dating app.
When she first joined it, she had an image of herself accidentally from 20 years ago, and some man in East London called her up on it and said she was a catfish, and so she deleted the app.
And when she did an updated version, a younger gentleman who set his age parameters a little higher...
She says he was clever, fussy, English.
He made him smile and sometimes laugh.
I liked his profile picture a lot because he was standing behind a horse.
And her ex-husband decided to say, clever man, he's saying he's got horse-like features.
Yes.
Yeah.
So she said, first date, when he opened the door, he looked displeased to see me, and I thought, F you, now I'm going to kiss you.
An F you kiss is very different from a hate F. It's a means of taking control of a situation, not dissimilar to directing.
Right.
So you misperceived him as being contemptuous, and you thought, right, I'm going to be...
Very sexually forward in order to dominate you.
Do you not think, while politicising and interjecting power dynamics into your relationship, it might have been derailed in that way?
Again, ladies, don't take modern feminist dating advice.
Also, don't live in California.
Yeah.
Ever.
That's what most Californians are thinking now, hemorrhaging to Texas.
I can hear all the California stuff in her, in everything.
Like, I have you an FU kiss, or a kiss F, whatever.
It's like, what is that?
Yeah.
What happened to this good old-fashioned snogging?
Yeah, crass inflection.
So she then returns home after a night of, well, shame, and she ends up getting dressed to go out on another date, and her daughter turns to her and says, you look horrible, and you smell bad, and she's going, thanks, cool, and you're a very bad writer.
The children at school all laugh at your terrible writing.
LAUGHTER I love kids.
Space daughter.
I was touched by how much she knew my writing matters to me.
And it's like, well, actually, it's kind of a tinge of sadness here because the only way her daughter seems to interact with her is by insulting her mum because she feels neglected because her mum's going out on a series of One Night Sands.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also, when you said daughter, I was like, she's got a daughter?
Yeah.
That was the bit that shocked me.
Yeah.
Well, she says, single motherhood's very difficult.
So, skipping forward in this article, she basically says she keeps going out with this guy called Q, and then she realises he's emotionally unavailable.
That's because she put out on the first night.
She is much older than he is, so he's clearly using her for accessible practice.
So again, ladies, don't do this to yourselves.
I felt very sad once I accepted that I was falling in love with Q and he was not particularly available to me.
So I did what men often do when they're overwhelmed by the feeling of being blown away by a woman.
They have a one-night stand with someone new.
Oh, you cheat.
Great.
Well done.
So she goes on a date to the Karl Marx Memorial at Highgate Cemetery.
Oh, wonderful.
Guardian writer.
What a great day out, that is.
Yep.
And she said afterwards, we could only make it to the first landing before falling into each other.
Single motherhood is often hard and sometimes sad.
I wonder if you contributed to the situation.
And it was an enormous relief to be devoured.
I think it was because he was so hungry it spilled over, and the night and morning I was with him, I wanted to cook for him, which I never want to do, as cooking is tied to implications of being a domestic failure and the inability to be an obedient and successful housewife.
Was that in Highgate Cemetery, did it?
No, they weren't.
I was going to say!
I've had some experiences, but...
But I wanted to draw attention to that final part there is basically just admitting, yeah, I do have a biological drive to settle down, to have a wholesome family, to cook for my husband, to just be nice...
And so don't pathologise the ability of a man to protect and provide for you.
Have higher standards for the men you get intimate with.
And then you won't feel as concerned about being walked out on.
You might actually have a wholesome relationship.
Ladies, don't take middle-class paper dating advice.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, but lefty women are very unattractive.
Am I right in saying that?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
There's just, you know, I don't know, there's just something about it.
They take themselves too seriously, I think, as well.
There's a physiognomy spillover, though.
They have been relentlessly posting about how they find right-wingers very attractive.
Well, there's an upside, because you're thinking, hang on a minute.
Right, let's go to the video comments then, shall we?
Ironically, I think people would like Sunak more if he looked more like a kind of traditional Hindu man, you know, kind of stocky guy with a beard and a turban and everything.
Because people would generally view that as more relatable than this...
Schoolboy-looking guy who seems like he's never worked a day in his life.
I mean, even Liz Truss came from the working class.
Like, Sunak doesn't seem to have ever had any hardship his entire life.
Yeah, so the fun part you missed is he basically just said if he was one of the British Sikhs and he looked a bit more stocky, like an Indian warlord, basically, he would be more relatable.
But it's his background that means that people don't like him.
I think it's less his background than more his terrible policies, like digital currency and being WEF-countered.
Yeah, I don't really care that he's rich.
I just think because he's a globalist.
He's not a small-c conservative.
He's not anything.
He's got no principles.
Trump was wealthy, but he's on our side.
That's the difference.
Yes, exactly.
He was a patriot.
Nothing wrong with being wealthy.
It's not a sin, having money.
No, it's how you get it.
It is a sin being a lying bastard and pushing experimental medication.
Yeah, we can say that now.
We're on the website.
The vaccines have killed people.
Pfizer are evil.
I have another theory, one of which you guys would like.
I believe in the mid-21st century, woke ideology will reach to such a point that even left-leaning people will hate it and reject it in droves.
People will return to a classical liberal point of view, of which in turn will change society to somewhat resemble the 1950s conservatism.
Thus, we will no longer see girls wanting to look like Crusted the Clown, or people wanting to look like monsters from Resident Evil.
Um, I would correct you there and examine the contentions between the two philosophies, because he says classical liberal point of view.
Yeah.
Which is not conservative, because the classical liberals have a lot of false assumptions, as Carl's written about in his article on the website, as Will Noland, the fellow who got cancelled from Eton.
Yes, Eton, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's written about it on a website saying the universal acid.
Oh, there I am.
Yep, exactly, yeah.
My pronouns are tits slash art.
That's...
Yeah.
Something which most lefty men have these days.
Yeah, so the idea that we return to a classical liberal position when that is the whole reason for the abolition of boundaries.
I mean, the classical liberals basically said, we don't want to be incurred on by the state.
And then that got turned into the left-wing postmodern position of, we don't want to be imposed on by anything.
Anything that's constraining our will, including biology, is oppression.
So we won't return to classical liberalism.
We'll return to some form of actual conservatism, like proper patriarchy.
With, I think, with, well, I would say this, but libertarianism, libertarian stuff.
The way that we've been conceptualised is, like, so you're always going to get a class of elites, you just want them to be on your side.
So if you have a libertarian king, like Bolsonaro, or like Ronda Santis, or the king of Poland, they basically have all the power, but like George Washington, they go, and I'm not going to use it over you.
That should be the thing.
You should be almost an autocrat with restraint, in the same way that Jordan Peterson goes, you should be a monster with restraint, and that's what makes you a good man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There we go.
Okay.
Comments on the website.
So these are all for you.
Supreme Duck.
Missed the introduction.
Who is this incredibly based woman?
Abby Roberts.
Hi.
Yeah.
Well, we've got your...
Sorry, I'm not more Welsh.
We've got your getter and that and whatnot.
We've got your t-shirt as well.
Oh, actually, yeah.
Can I hold up my t-shirt?
Please do.
This is...
I've got a character...
Satire series.
A satire series that I started when I was thrown off Twitter called Kathy Crump.
She's a mainstream newsreader for BGBBTV News, which is a mix of obviously.
Easy for you to say.
Easy for me to say.
Can you see that?
Yep.
Here's the t-shirt, her face on it.
Cathy Crunt says, stay stupid.
Stay stupid is her catchphrase.
Hashtag stay stupid.
And you can get merchandise, mugs and t-shirts on CathyCrunt.com, which is up there!
It's almost like this is a very well organised show.
Yeah, well, we do have to pay John for being an excellent producer, don't we?
Thank you, John.
So, yeah, so I'm basically, I've started the kind of, I'm bringing satire back.
There aren't enough, there's too few people.
The thing with satire is that you can't be polite.
You can't both be in the establishment and do satire as a comedian.
You've got to be on the outside.
Yeah, what's the one with the big Pepe Mache heads, which is just unbelievably cringeworthy?
Spitting image.
Spitting image.
It's like there could not be more establishment if it tried.
Yeah.
Whereas actually, weirdly, the old school one was pretty...
Near the mark.
...odcore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same with Little Britain.
I didn't find Little Britain ever very funny.
No.
But they've really took risks.
Exactly.
And that's what Cornbury has to do in order to...
Well, you know, to have a sort of...
This kind of society that we...
Yeah.
That you're free in.
Yeah, it needs to be transgressive.
Many truths told a jest.
Yes, exactly.
That sort of thing.
There's also a lot of people like Lord Nerevar and Carl Dayton saying, oh, first time finding you, haven't encountered you before, but really switched on individual, please invite her on again.
So there we go.
It'll be a pleasure.
Also, Sophie, who often sends a video comment, she goes, as the accepted token female Lotus Eater, I want to thank Abby for pretty much saying everything I usually say today.
You rule girl would give you a high five if I met you in person.
So, let's go on to the comments for each segment, shall we?
For the Parliament isn't sending their best bit, I feel really sorry for poor little Larry the Cat.
With Rishi having all the Chinese politicians over, they might mistake Larry for a walking buffet.
LAUGHTER Poor Larry.
What's that?
Oh, it's my...
What's it?
Number 22?
Yeah, number 45.
Oh, 45?
Oh, I see the Chinese accent then.
That's terrible.
It's all right.
John will give you the card.
It's fine.
Get away with it.
Have you seen the Chinese Dogmeat Festival, which is the most barbaric thing ever in existence?
Oh no, I can't bear that.
It's in Yulin, and they basically fry dogs alive.
They just throw them into pats of boiling oil in the middle of the street.
Yeah.
It's genuinely the most, like, if ever there were a place you could drone strike, in Minecraft, of course.
Yeah.
If they could do that to human beings, the Chinese would.
I mean, they've sealed people in their houses.
Yeah, exactly.
And if they could, they probably will start doing it, won't they?
Well, they probably have in the week of concentration camps.
I can only imagine the horrors that are actually going on in there.
Yeah, but they make cheap shoes, so...
I suppose the NBA have to support them.
Black Lives Matter and all that.
Fuzzy Toaster.
Honestly, it's not the calibre of politician.
It's the blooming payload.
I don't care if you went to Eton and have an IQ over 200.
Are you going to have a spine and stand up for this country?
No?
Then bugger off.
Unironically, we'd better off from Baz from down the pub.
Yeah, I do want Wetherspoon's politics.
Like, Carl and I were debating the other day, and we got chewed out in the office for wanting a bit of populism, but we said, wouldn't it be really funny to replace the House of Lords with an elected jury system?
So every three months, you just get 12 members of the public that get to vote on the bills.
And so they're not captured by special interests, but you'd get, like, Nigerian grandad, West Country farmer, Northern working class builder, and...
East European...
Yeah, exactly.
Like Nigel Farad-style Kentmen.
And they're all just sitting there going, sorry, how many migrants are coming to the channel?
Sorry, they're breaking into houses.
Right, okay, where are the sea mines?
Where's the Royal Navy?
Immediately, overnight.
I know, I think that's a great idea.
I also think that within the House of Commons, within number 10, there should be a morality and ethics department.
Yeah.
Only for morality and ethics.
And they should have Roger Scruton, literally, just up on the wall.
And when they go over the line...
Then there should be punishment in a dungeon.
Put the stocks out and you can walk past and throw taxpayer-funded tomato throwings.
S.H. Silver.
These technocrats need to be reminded from where sovereignty flows.
They need to get huge beating in an election to show just how little power they have without the plebs to support them.
I suppose talking quite dispiritedly, I mean, there's going to be a Labour government, 100%.
It's going to be really fucking rough, considering that you're going to have criminalising of abortion critique and misgendering.
Um...
And economic.
I mean, do you think this one's gone far enough?
Yeah, the Tory's not horrendous, but they're going to collapse.
Do we think there's going to be any good come of it?
Do you think there's going to be a marginal party or do you think the Conservative Party will be able to be captured?
If the Conservative Party is going to be captured, it's got to start now.
People have got to start getting in there.
And the only way that the minority parties will succeed is if there's electoral reform, as Farage has suggested.
It has to be an easy-to-understand PR thing.
Otherwise, it'll be so confusing.
Like, 3,000 parties?
We'll turn into the Israeli Knesset, where they're just constantly squabbling over how many parties can be in government.
Precisely.
But in order to get plurality of views, I think electoral reform may have to come.
I think there's a perfect time as well, because, not being funny, I'm not afraid of it at all, because you know Labour's going to win.
So we may as well change the landscape.
The stakes are so high, aren't they?
The stakes are enormous now.
I don't fear a Conservative loss in many respects, because they've just committed suicide anyway.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
Agreed.
On the drag queens, then.
Lord Narrabot, the whole the way to have a tolerant society is to be intolerant of intolerance thing is not the way to go, especially when the definition of intolerance is just whatever we decide is bad today.
It's a way to get totalitarian society for the back door.
I'm intolerant of drag queens abusing children.
I expect to be allowed to express that opinion and to be tolerated despite holding it.
If that isn't the case, I'm prepared to defend myself.
So he's saying the idea of we need to be intolerant of intolerance isn't the phrase to go because there's always going to be a form of intolerance.
It's just talking about prudent intolerance.
Right.
It's like the idea of free speech, but do we extend that towards our enemies, for example?
So if a communist is saying we need to take away your voice, should we be as Chesterton says, there's a thought which stops thought and that's the only thought which must be stopped?
Yeah.
There's an interesting contention going on at the moment with that.
It is an interesting one.
Yeah, and also, like, yeah, and the free speech thing is, you know, the incitement to violence and that sort of thing is, the word, it has to be specific wording.
Yeah.
Which is difficult in itself to police, because I think you could actually make a cogent argument, but it's the same with the death penalty, right?
I think you can make a cogent argument for executing criminals.
Just like I think you can make a cogent argument for saying communism isn't of itself a call to violence because it is a revolutionary ideology which says it's founded on the murder of the bourgeois class.
And it always has been throughout history.
Yes.
However, do I trust the people in power to accurately police that?
No.
And it's really difficult to do.
Yes.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I think basically anything that crushes the sanctity of the individual...
Yeah.
Should be outlawed.
Exiled.
Yes, exiled.
Because what we're seeing now is collectivism is king.
And the little guy raising his hand has been under the thumb.
So that's what we need to return to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
Someone online, in public school 10 years ago, we had a ton of definitely inappropriate sexual materials shoved down our throats.
I actually had that as well.
They had a bunch of sex education people come in.
They had people coming in where, oh God, I remember this story, of where there was a gay, trans, and lesbian acceptance speakers that all came into the class and they were saying, oh, can you guess which of us is gay, which of us is straight, which of us is they, them, and all this.
And this was 2015.
Yeah.
Wow.
And they asked you at the start to vote.
They asked kids, they said, you're not going to be punished for this.
Can you vote on if you accept transgender people, if you accept gay people, this, that and the other?
And by the end of the class, everyone except one had voted on acceptance.
And there was one kid who didn't want to say his name that had voted, that he disagreed.
But then they still lumped them all in and saying, do you accept gay, trans, lesbian and all this acceptance all at once?
Yes.
And I'm like, at the time, I must have been like, oh, I wonder who that was.
Like, that's weird.
And I'm thinking, bloody hell, that kid was switched on, wasn't he?
Because you can accept gay and lesbian people on that, but when they try and use the Trojan horse for abolishing gender and sexualising kids, that kid must have known from the off.
And it's like, way back when?
Yeah, exactly.
And so that's the importance, as Jordan Peterson always says, that's the importance of...
Of the individual.
The individual voice can say, hang on a minute, that doesn't look right.
And we've seen the result over the last two and a half years of when individuals are silenced, what happens.
How do you feel about Peterson recently?
Because I think he's been quite disappointing.
Yeah, well, I mean, he's been disappointing.
Oh, yeah, over the...
Talking to Mohammed Hijab from Leicester and crying at the Quranic verses, and it's like, I know you want to bring everyone together, but there are certain people that are going to use you.
You know, be careful.
Yes, he's in some...
It's weird because he's sort of not based enough, having been...
Also, he was very, very late to the vaccine party.
Very late.
Even he admits he regrets that.
Yeah, exactly.
And to fair play to him, he is human.
He did admit that he'd made a mistake.
But I always get the impression with Jordan Peterson, sometimes he's trying to please too many people, rather than just having, these are my principles, I'm sticking with them, you can disagree if you want, but...
That's it.
I'm not going to waver.
There's a little bit of sort of...
Especially the things...
Because he didn't come to Christianity quite late as well.
First of all, he was like...
And then it was Russian Orthodoxy.
It was Orthodoxy that sort of got him back into the...
And his near-death experiences.
And some near-death experiences, yeah.
So I would say that he's someone who's not entirely comfortable with his own...
Conviction.
Yeah.
If that makes sense.
Yeah, that does make sense.
Does that make sense?
I think he's almost too agreeable for his own good.
We'll do one more from the last segment and then we're out of time.
Andrew Narog says, What a contemptible woman for the last segment and a despicable snivelling man in that relationship.
How travel for him and his earnest attempts.
Immediately followed by an admirable man in Abby Roberts' late husband's.
My condolences for your loss.
Oh, thank you.
That's very, very kind.
And thank you so much for letting me, you know, mention him.
Because, you know, I do as much as I can.
Because he's definitely, he's here with us.
Well, yeah, I'm sure he'd be incredibly proud about how outspoken you've been in the last few years.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, he'd love you.
He'd love this set-up.
He'd be over there.
Actually, he'd probably be outside having a fag.
Having a cig.
Outside!
On that wonderful note, thank you for finally coming in.
Train strikes derailed our last plan, but it was brilliant having you on and our audience very keen to have you back.
Yes, I'd love it.
Thank you for having me.
Wonderful.
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