Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday, the 16th of September, 2022.
I'm joined by Nick Buckley.
Thanks for joining me, Nick.
You're welcome.
And today we're going to be talking about the deep magic of England that has been revealed from the death of Queen Elizabeth, what the moderns are doing in response to this, the people who don't have the deep magic, and how we can look at tackling knife crime.
Because, of course, it's a plague.
Before we begin, after the podcast at 3.30 today, Harry and Connor are doing a book club called The Case Against the Sexual Revolution by Louise Perry.
Now, I've heard of this book going around, but I haven't been able to read it myself because I've been reading other things.
I've got a book club on the concept of representation in the works at the moment.
But this has been quite a stir, so I'll actually be tuning in for this live because I'm curious as to what The Case Against the Sexual Revolution is.
I've seen a couple of interviews she's done on it.
Has it been good?
Yeah, she basically says getting rid of marriage and downgrading marriage has been bad for women and turning women into promiscuous whores has also been bad for women as well.
Who could have imagined that reducing women to the status of prostitute wasn't good for women?
Common sense, but it takes someone to write a book about it.
Yeah, well, it takes 50 years of sexual liberation and then someone to write a book going, look, all the women are whores.
That's not good, is it?
To get to that point.
And again, there have been men saying the same thing, but I guess it requires a woman to tell women.
But anyway, let's begin.
So, like I was saying, the death of Queen Elizabeth II, I think, has revealed something that was otherwise buried.
We were talking before the podcast, just before this, about the kind of national sentiment in Britain that forms this kind of substratum of what Peter Hitchens calls the sort of deep magic of the country that holds it all together.
And suddenly, it's like a bunch of chains on the bottom of the ocean, right?
And over years, they get covered with silt.
But then when they get pulled, they just come straight back up and taut.
And all the silt falls off, and you can see them again.
And that's how I feel about this.
Like, suddenly, it's like the sinews of this sentiment are suddenly revealed.
And so all of the leftists whining and nagging, it all just, like, no one cares.
You know, it all feels...
There are no teeth to it anymore.
Everyone's like, no, no, no, no.
We're talking about, like, you know, the pillars of the earth here.
We're talking about the genuine...
That makes this country work as it does.
And the death of Queen Elizabeth has been impactful.
There's a danger here, as in we have to do the right thing in order to make sure that in a year's time you can still be sat in a nice comfortable office whining about racism or whatever it is you want to whine about leftists.
And so it shows that they are deeply reliant on this kind of deep magic.
And I think that this is a good time to compare it to a superficial magic, which I did a premium video on Lotus.com called The Secrets of Rousseau.
Now this, I think, is...
Honestly, I'm glad I did this Not realising how relevant this would become, because Edmund Burke said that he had spoken to David Hume, who had spoken to Rousseau about how, because Rousseau had to flee to England, because everyone has to flee to England, about how to wow the public.
And Rousseau was basically like, well, you need marvels, you need novelty.
And it's like, yeah, okay, you do that, and that is a kind of magic, but that's a very superficial kind of magic.
There's not much longevity to novelty.
And this, I think, is easily contrasted against the sort of deep magic of tradition that we're seeing at the moment, when everyone suddenly knows what to do.
Everyone suddenly falls in line and does the right thing.
And watching it, I've been watching it for the past few days, just like the live streams of people queuing to see the Queen laying in state.
And it's just amazing how this, the way everyone realizes, oh no, there's a way things supposed to be.
I'm going to be that way.
In fact, let's go and have a look at the queue.
So this is the British queue tracker for the Queen lying in state, which is something we have.
This was taken a couple of days ago when the queue was three and a half miles long.
But there is a live queue tracker on YouTube, which, as you can see, has been paused at the moment because it got to over five miles and 14 hours wait to see the Queen in state.
And so they've paused the queue.
Now, I didn't realize you could pause a queue.
Like, I don't...
And now you can jump a queue.
Yeah, you can.
Well, rude people can jump a queue.
But no true Brit would jump a queue.
And I've heard no reports of queue jumping to see the Queen, which is good.
But yeah, so this queue got to the point of capacity being reached, apparently.
If you can go to the next one, sorry, after this one, because things have happened since I put this all together.
If you can go to the next one, the capacity was reached.
And so they've asked people for at least six hours not to join the queue as it's at full capacity.
We are sorry for any inconvenience.
Please do not attempt to join the queue until it reopens.
Okay, well, there we go.
The Department for Digital Culture and Media and Sport have said, which is fine.
And so I... Loathe to feature someone like Tom Harwood on the channel, but he was standing outside talking to people in the queue, and I thought it was just very interesting why people were there.
What their reason for spending 14 hours maximum for the queue was.
So let's watch this first clip.
How long has he been queuing today?
Oh, since 7am.
And did you always know that you'd need to come and see the Queen lying in state?
Absolutely, yeah.
It wasn't even a question.
It just had to come, absolutely.
A feeling of compulsion almost?
Yeah, literally felt compelled.
Just got to come and say, pay our respects and say goodbye, basically.
See, I think that's interesting.
Literally felt compelled.
And I can really see it.
There is some sort of compulsive force, and this is what I'm talking about.
Again, it was Peter Hitchens who coined the term the deep magic of England, I think.
But I think that's what she's talking about.
There's just this unknown, unseen, but compelling force.
It's like, no, no, I have to.
I have to go and do this.
I think we've been told for that long that Britishness doesn't exist, that no one's patriotic, that it's a dirty word.
And it's taken something like this to remind people that it's not...
It's a bit like you don't tell...
Well, I'm presuming you don't tell your mum and your family that you love them every day.
Well, I don't have to.
No, because you know you do.
And we're not an overly emotional people, even though we have all the emotions everybody else does.
But it takes something like this for us to go...
I am British, and I do love this country.
I am proud of this country.
And because of this, those chains you talked about at the bottom of the ocean with the sediment, now they've become clear again because people have been rattling them because they're British.
Yeah.
And Sky put out an article featuring people's outfits, which I thought was nice.
If you can scroll down, you can see lots of Britishness.
If you scroll down, John, in this, you see lots and lots of Union Jack suits and things like that.
And that's just lovely, isn't it?
I think that's wonderful.
But what's interesting as well is that we've been queuing like this along the Thames when people are in state for generations, actually.
I didn't realize how old in a tradition this was.
This, as you can see from previous eras, has been going on for quite some time.
If you can scroll down, I think they've got Queen Mother, Winston Churchill, keep going, Winston Churchill, Queen Mary, and then...
But they've got like a...
Go down to the bottom, sorry.
Keep going.
Edward and William Gladstone, that was it, in 1898.
So again, hundreds of thousands of people go through Westminster Abbey Hall.
And so I just think that's important, isn't it, you know?
Tradition.
Yeah, it all ties together.
We've been doing this for a long time.
And so the royal family put out a picture of Queen Elizabeth's...
Is it casket?
I suppose it's...
The picture of a lying estate.
I've been watching this.
This is before people were allowed in and finally passed.
But you can see the set up there.
And I've been watching this just as I've been working.
I've had it in the background.
And it's been fascinating watching people walk in.
Because as Callum said, he saw the first ones go in.
And the first couple of people just kind of nodded to her.
And then everyone afterwards did that.
I don't think that's part of the tradition or the requirement.
It's just that nobody doesn't know not to do it.
And doesn't want to be rude.
And doesn't want to be rude.
Doesn't want to be out of place.
And I've been watching the changing of the guard, which is fascinating, because you've got eight guardsmen or something.
They march in, in a column, take up the positions behind the existing guardsmen, who then, upon a given signal, march off.
And then the other guys just step forward into their place.
And so these guys are basically always at that same thing.
It's like some sort of 19th century German clock.
You know, but with real people in, you know, their proper dress.
And you can compare this to, again, earlier times where, like, in 1936, a chap painted King George lying in state.
You can go to the next one, John.
You can even get this one up just so people can see.
Again, it's no different.
It's just the same.
And it's been the same for a long time.
In fact, this, as I said, is in Westminster Abbey.
This is an ancient building.
The building itself, Westminster Hall, sorry, the building itself was built in 1097.
By William II. William the Conqueror's son, I think.
So the building itself is nearly a thousand years old.
And the roof, the timber roof, was built in 1393.
So you can see the scope of this over time.
The tentacles of this go back so far.
Oh God, it's just so deep into the history of this country.
But again, you can't describe it in modern terms.
This was built when people thought God invested the monarch and we were a feudal country.
It's so old.
But anyway, so carrying on with the way people look at this then, this all gives the effect of magic, which is, I think, right.
This is Lieutenant Colonel Graham Jones talking about how he was part of the brass band rehearsing for the Queen Mother's Funeral, which was obviously a decade ago now or something like that.
But let's play this clip.
So again, the way he describes it, I think, is just fascinating.
I remember doing the rehearsal for the Queen Mother's funeral, and it's actually quite surreal because it's dark, and you're going through the streets.
Now, I remember the carriages, they all had lights on, you know, the candle lights, and it was just sort of strangely magical, but just very humbling to be actually a part of it.
It's interesting, isn't it?
The term magical just keeps getting brought up.
And as you were saying, it shows that actually, no, we are okay to say that we like this game.
Yep.
It's one of those things that people don't generally say, but I think is important.
I mean, this was from GB News, where, again, one of their presenters had been in the queue for like five hours, and she was just giving her experience.
And I thought it'd be interesting to watch.
And what was it like in the queue?
Because I've heard all these stories of people coming out and they seem to have just made friends and are holding hands.
Total strange.
I mean, what was your experience like?
Yeah, I feel quite emotional thinking about it now because you go in and it's just the most British way of behaving.
We all know what to do.
We were all in single file immediately at 5.25 this morning.
We're all walking along at a good pace and almost immediately you start talking to the people in front of you and behind you and Really, by the time, it took me five hours to do the entire queue.
And there was a lady from Australia there, a married couple from South London.
There was a boy from Clapham and myself.
And we all came together.
We were sharing our biscuits.
We were sharing stories.
We felt like friends.
And I joked, actually, as we came into Westminster Garden here, that I felt like we were a bit of a family.
And it did feel like that.
But there was a sense of camaraderie and friendship.
And it was wonderful.
It was a really, really nice experience.
When was the last time we felt this way?
It's almost been illegal to feel this way for a very long time.
Yeah, and it's hard to find where you would get such a narrative on TV. You would never be able to talk about this.
Because we'd have to talk about, oh, some minority is being oppressed because whatever reasons and blah, blah, blah.
That's all we get to talk about these days.
And so this is just a real breath of fresh air.
And there's a genuine depth of feeling here.
I don't think the people who are queuing up could actually explain really why they're there or why they felt compelled to turn up.
And it's not because an older woman's died.
It's not because a queen died.
It's because the old...
The old era has gone, and we're now entered a new era.
So it's a loss, but it's not loss of the Queen.
It's a loss of what we had before, because things have changed now.
We now have a King, and it's how we feel about the country.
Something has dramatically changed our country, and it's about acknowledging that and showing respect for that.
I think there's also an aspect of maintaining the continuum, though, as in you're going to go and see the guards standing there by Queen Elizabeth laying in state.
Well, that's the same as what your grandparents would have done and their grandparents would have done.
Things change, but in some way they also stay the same.
And I think it's them supporting that, because that's our system.
Yes.
Pete Hitchens had a great take on this.
Let's listen.
Also, I think over the past 50 or 60 years, attitudes towards death and mourning and funerals have changed completely.
And go to a funeral now, and you're quite likely to hear jokes being told at the event, which is unthinkable in my life.
And people are not really wearing black, necessarily.
Very little of that.
All the traditions of mourning have weakened immensely.
What do you do if you're standing in the street when a horse goes by?
People no longer wear hats, they can't take them off.
And quite often it's as if something is passing which is quite irrelevant.
Whereas, again, 30 or 40 years ago, people would at least have stood in silence by the road.
A bowed head, possibly.
But for anybody, not just...
And all these traditions have weakened, along with the religious tradition in the country.
People in many cases don't...
They may feel inwardly that they wish to show some sort of regret, but they haven't got any...
Any customs that they've learnt from childhood by which they can do it.
Which to me is a loss.
I think it's a great shame that we have so much less ceremony.
Yes.
Well that was why I found it rather comforting in a way to watch that rather obscure...
A sort of procedure that went on over the weekend, the accession...
Oh, these things are wonderful.
I mean, I didn't...
One, of course, I'd never seen it because nobody would have seen it.
No, you don't.
No one has seen it.
But I found it quite...
I couldn't take my eyes off it.
No, these things are marvelous.
They remind us of the deep magic underneath the whole very, very ancient country.
Yeah.
Which I think is just exactly right.
We are definitely losing something if we allow these traditions to wither.
We are tangibly losing something.
Even though you couldn't quantify it, it's definitely there.
Historian Tom Holland, I think, had a very nice and modern way of putting it.
If you can scroll up on this one, John, just so you can see the one above it.
Dr.
Paul Johnson here saying,"...in the eyes of the world we are possibly, appropriately, and certainly stereotypically being defined by Q." And Tom Holland's saying, yes, I'm so proud of this.
And I agree.
Because it speaks a lot, as he replies with this picture, to the British character, which can be summed up with patience.
And fair play.
You take your place in the line, and that's your place.
You do not try to take someone else's place, and it's a sense of fair play.
Yeah.
First come, first serve.
That's exactly it.
And so you can look at the response to this from, say, Owen Jones, who's not one of my favorite leftists, but he says, with Queen Elizabeth gone, the monarchy's magic may be fading.
And I don't think that's true.
I think it's the complete opposite.
I've been quite surprised at the outpouring and the public engagement in this.
It's been more than I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, me too.
I'm genuinely impressed, actually.
Which, again, just seems to be the sort of, oh, well, the leftist, the communist perspective, the materialist perspective.
If anything, it looks like the magic's surprisingly strong.
Yeah.
And you get other people who, again, I can't help but notice this guy's a foreigner.
We go to the next one.
Like, Ama Raman.
He's like, you have to wonder what Western media would say if people in the Global South suddenly started piling up sandwiches and soft toys as some bizarro shrine for a dead monarch.
And it's like, well, I mean, in Britain, I don't think we'd find that too terribly bizarre.
Sort of weird rituals we do.
Well, to answer that, in Red Square in Moscow and in Vietnam.
So in Moscow, I queued up and visited Lenin, frozen in his tomb.
And when I was in Vietnam, I visited Ho Chi Minh, frozen in his tomb.
That's exactly what we're doing here.
But I mean, it's not like people in the global south, don't they have their own strange traditions and rituals?
I mean, my favourite one, I think, is probably the Prince Philip movement.
Which is actually hilarious.
Go to the next one, John.
The Prince Philip movement is an indigenous religious sect from Papua New Guinea.
I think it is a cargo cult.
And they happen to have loved Prince Philip.
And the Wikipedia article on this is just fantastic, right?
They say this...
In April 2021, the sect mourned Prince Philip's death.
Village chief Albie said that he was terribly, terribly sorry that he died, and the tribal leader, Chief Yappa, sent his condolences to the royal family and the people of the UK. The union flag was flown at half-mast on the grounds of Nakamal.
A formal mourning period was declared, and many tribespeople gathered in a ceremony to remember the Duke, where men took turns to speak and pay tribute to him.
For the next few weeks, villagers met periodically to conduct rites for him, whom they see as a recycled descendant of a very powerful spirit or god that lives on one of their mountains.
They conducted ritualistic dance, held a procession, displayed memorabilia for the Duke.
While the men drank kava, a ceremonial drink made from the roots of the kava plant, The period of mourning culminated in a significant gathering where a great deal of yams and cava plants were on display.
Numerous pigs were killed for the ceremony, referring to the Queen.
Chief Jack Malia said that though the Duke is dead, they still have a connection with the mother of the royal family.
Many of the tribe's people believe that while his body lies at rest, the Duke's soul will return to its spiritual home, the island of Tanna.
So that's the kind of thing that people in the Global South might think.
And what do we do?
Well, we don't disrespect it.
Because at the end of the day, you know, they might not be our traditions, but they're their traditions and, you know, we leave them to them.
But anyway, let's move on to the moderns.
The pathetic moderns and their spiritual emptiness.
And I find this just remarkable because...
What have they got to say that even intersects with what we've been talking about?
In what way can Owen Jones...
I mean, even Owen Jones has to use the word magic.
He's a man who is a pure materialist, completely fixated on the French Revolution rights of man.
And...
In any other time and place, he's got nothing to say about any of this.
What are they going to say?
What are they going to say that even vaguely interact with the concepts that are at play and are clearly animating the country at the moment?
Absolutely nothing, right?
It's going against everything he's been talking about for a long time.
John makes a good point, actually.
This kind of magical thinking is completely normal outside of the West.
You know, national mourning in ancient China, the last few years, the moderns have no idea.
And he's exactly right.
We just assume everyone is an Enlightenment rationalist.
And the thing is, there are good reasons to look at that and go, hang on a second, maybe this kind of magical thinking, maybe there is something about it that is actually worth keeping.
And the reason I say this is because I've been doing this repeated series called Our Cyberpunk Dystopia.
I did part three the other day.
And it's just the horrific world we move into when we think that human beings are just measurable bags of meat.
It's a genuinely terrifying future.
We're like, okay, we'll just give you a palm stamp where we'll just read all of your biometric data and then have you in a database and millions of people will just be numbers in a spreadsheet.
What a terrible way of looking at the world.
But that seems to be the alternative.
We can have a country of magic and tradition or we can have the cyberpunk dystopia.
You choose.
They don't want this addition because...
It's hard to change people if they know their history, because they belong to something.
They belong to a family.
They belong to a nation, which is just a bigger family.
And if they can break that down, the left's really good at breaking down families and breaking down the monarchy.
And it's because once you belong to nothing, We want to belong.
So then they can offer the solution of then you wanting to belong to something because we've got rid of what you used to belong to.
Well, they can create the new man beginning at year zero, the atomized individual who's outside of space and time, who's, you know, self-generative.
He's not created.
He's not, you know, part of a culture or a country or, you know, a tradition over time.
There's no future for him.
He's always in the now.
Yeah.
Because it starts now.
Exactly.
And you don't have a future because tomorrow is day one as well.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And so this, I think, is just exemplified by a bunch of woke leftists on Twitter, like this Martin Durkin guy, who's just like, what are we doing?
This is the 21st century.
What the hell are we doing?
And it's like, sorry, Martin, we're doing something important.
Have you not seen the building?
The building's ancient.
You know, look at all those people there, and they all know why they're there, and you're the only one on the outside going, oh, I don't understand this at all.
It's like, sorry, man, we're actually, what we're doing is making sure that people in the future won't be embarrassed of us.
I know that's hard to believe, but in the same way that I just covered like, you know, you can go back to like King George or William Gladstone, you know, this is the same thing.
You know, we're making sure that we did our part.
And tradition is about passing on the lessons previous generations learnt the hard way.
That's what tradition's about, so you don't make the same mistakes.
We may not understand or he definitely doesn't understand why those people are in that hall.
But there's a reason.
He just doesn't know the reason.
That's very much Edmund Burke's view of tradition.
Actually, a lot of good things are built up in the traditions, and even if you don't understand why these things work, and often because they're the work of so many minds, so many hands of so many generations, you couldn't plan it out.
You couldn't even explain it.
But the thing has a life of its own and provides benefits of its own.
It's irresponsible not to be.
And the poor traditions or the things that added no value to society are discarded over time.
That's exactly right.
You know, they don't become traditions that don't have any power.
And that's the point, isn't it?
Because this is what keeps everything together.
You know, this is a genuine sort of spiritual locus of this country.
And so Martin here being, oh, I don't understand this.
I was born yesterday.
I've got no knowledge of the past.
Shut up, Martin.
Anyway, so the New York Times had a nice take on this, which is amazing.
King Charles is out of touch with the regular people.
He's a king.
I wouldn't expect him to know what the...
I mean, A, they really do us down here.
Oh, the public's using food banks.
A small portion of the public is using food banks.
Most people are not using food banks, just so you know.
Again, the British public is reliant on food banks.
Thanks, New York Times, for making us sound like we're an impoverished third world whole.
But of course, King Charles is not, you know, again, but look at the view.
Your king doesn't know what it is to use a food bank.
It's like, that would be embarrassing, wouldn't it?
You know?
Wouldn't that be humiliating if your king had to go to a food bank?
He's trained all his life for this role.
Yeah.
And everyone's been joking about how he's been waiting decades because Elizabeth lived to 96.
Yeah.
But again, look, the perspective is very much like the French Revolution perspective.
Why aren't we all equal?
Because we aren't equal.
No one's equal.
Anywhere.
Ever.
No.
And that's okay.
On many, many different levels.
Exactly.
In every conceivable way.
I'm not equal to a six foot six basketball player.
No.
You know, I'm not equal to someone who's been to Oxford University and had a private education.
No.
But in some other ways, I will be better than some of those people I've mentioned in other ways.
You've got different life experiences.
It's just the way of the world.
But again, like, you know, the revolutionary in America can't understand what it is they're looking at.
You know, it's like, yeah, but food banks, what about food banks?
Anyway, so speaking of food banks, in fact, I don't know, is this normal for, like, everything to close on the day of the funeral of the monarch?
It probably is.
I think it would have been 100 years ago, but because we're in a society now that's 24-7, we don't even respect Sundays anymore or anything, that seems a bit odd.
Yeah.
Now, I mean, I'm actually not against this, because I assumed that it was traditional, although I couldn't find anything on it.
But I assumed that this was something that was just done.
Probably done for King George or something.
And I think it's done for the people who work in those shops because rather than spending the day working, bringing money into the capitalist system, those people can now be with their family and friends and contemplate the change that's happening in the country.
Yeah.
John makes another good point.
All the closures are voluntary as well.
We'll get to the lockdowns in a minute, in fact.
But put a pin in that as well.
This is anti-capitalist, right?
This is very anti-capitalist.
It's capitalist to have them open 24-7, 365 days a year.
And so it's interesting how, again, you see the magic of the tradition imposing itself on modernity and saying, actually, no.
And again, it's all voluntary.
You can't be a capitalist without a secure, fantastic country above it.
Yes.
Because there is no capitalism if you don't have that country.
Yeah.
And so, essentially, everything's closing.
Now, people have been asking, well, are you guys going to be broadcasting on Monday?
Which is the day of the funeral.
I think we will, but obviously we'll do something appropriately sensitive to the occasion and talk about that subject.
But it was very interesting.
Again, Noah Robinson, just some modernist, who's just like, everything's closing in some way.
I mean, there are some odd ones, I'm not going to lie.
The Met Office decided to stop getting regular weather forecasts.
Norfolk City Council closed their cycle racks.
I mean, that's...
Okay, doing it wrong.
Bit odd.
Well, some of it now has gone into the realm of virtue signaling, hasn't it?
Yes.
Yes, it has.
CrossFit included a one-minute rest in silence and tribute workout.
Center Parks decided to kick all the guests out of a village.
I mean, I don't think the Queen would have asked for that.
Morrison's has turned off the beeps at its checkouts.
That's a bit silly.
Yeah.
And Wimbledon Food Bank has closed out of respect.
I was like, possibly didn't need to do that either.
But like you were saying about the capitalism, though, you would think if it was any other thing, any other day, somewhere like The Guardian would be like, yeah, it's great that these things are closing.
You know, it's an attack on the capitalist system.
It gives the workers a day off.
Yeah.
Those poor workers.
Yeah, there are lots of left-wing reasons to say, yeah, no, it'd be good to give them an extra bank holiday, you know, to get them off work.
Until, of course, it's for the Queen.
And then the Guardian's like, well, hang on a second.
There's a recession coming, don't you know?
I made one out of my soy milk.
It's not even that, actually.
There's a recession threat that looms as the UK grinds to a halt to mourn the Queen.
And it's like, you guys love recessions.
You guys love this.
You see this as a step towards the Communist Revolution.
Don't give me this absolute BS. Listen to this, right?
They don't want the workers sat at home.
With the TV on, watching the funeral of the Queen going, do you know what?
My country's amazing.
Look at what we do.
The world's tuned in for this.
The whole world is watching this.
That is honestly nail on the head there.
If it was for anything else.
If you go to the next one, you see The Guardian was completely pro-lockdown.
And they were like, yeah, the lockdowns are bad for you, but not to do it would have been worse.
We don't care about the economy.
We don't care about your mental health.
No, no, no, no.
Lock you down because that'll be good against capitalism.
But as soon as, like you say, it would be a benefit to the traditional structures of this country, they're like, oh no, we've got to go to work.
Get those workers out to work.
Can't have a day off.
Recession's coming, don't you know?
It's a paid bank holiday.
The left should be celebrating another free day for workers to relax at home.
I know.
No, no, you've got to go work for your capitalist masters, says the Guardian.
It's honestly just transparently disgusting, and I can't stand it.
Anyway, so moving on, we get a lot of losers posting their L's online.
Roughly every six days in the world, a country celebrates its independence from Britain.
I think we're meant to be ashamed of that.
No, I think the...
What's the word I'm looking for?
The dismantling of the British Empire was the safest, less deaf, most mutual beneficial dismantling of an empire ever.
And it was so successful, many of those countries then said, can't we start something voluntarily and let's call it the Commonwealth and let's all still be friends and do things together.
That's how evil our vampire was.
Yeah, and that is, honestly, that is exactly the right way to put it.
Like, you do not have a mutually beneficial Commonwealth of Nations That are on friendly terms for decades after the end of the Empire, if the product of the Empire was just purely negative.
Where's the French Commonwealth?
Well, that's a great question.
Where's the Portuguese and Spanish Commonwealth in South America?
Do the Haitians really want to have a commonwealth with France?
For anyone who knows anything about the Haitian Revolution, well, it wasn't pretty.
Yeah, exactly.
And Britain voluntarily decolonized.
And so this is not only not a point of shame, in my opinion, this is a win.
Yeah, you're welcome, world.
Then you get the absolute clowns.
You get people like this, like, anti-monarchist arrested after shouting, who elected him?
It's like, mate, you're a Monty Python character.
You're actually a character in a Monty Python skit.
Like, He is, but again, he shouldn't be arrested for that.
Of course not.
We always have fools, and there's fools in every society, in every community.
And if he wants to be a fool and shout that, then he takes that risk himself with the crowd.
But he shouldn't be arrested because, again, our police, again, overstep the mark all the time now.
Well, yeah, I was going to get into that.
So yeah, this guy, an actual clown from a Monty Python skit.
And also, you know, people elected Hitler, so calm down about being, like, elections are so great.
They elected Trump!
They elected Trump!
And I bet he doesn't like Trump!
It looks like in Italy and Sweden they could be electing more right-wing, so calm down about those elections, buddy!
Like, King Charles is a deep environmentalist, is he not?
You know, gives lots of money, does lots of charitable things, blah, blah, blah.
You know, calm down there.
But anyway, so going on to that, I meant to take out this John Oliver link.
John Oliver made jokes about the Queen's death, and so that was cut from the UK showing.
But, you know, he's not funny, so I don't know why they'd broadcast him at all.
But this is the thing, isn't it?
Who wanted the offence laws?
The left.
There we go.
Because at that moment in time, it suited them.
And that's what always happens when you want a sword for justice.
You always forget swords have two sides, two cutting edges, and it can be used on you just as easily when a table's turned.
And that's why I have absolutely no sympathy for this barrister who held up a blank piece of paper near the House of Parliament and was told that he risked being arrested if he wrote Not My King on it.
It's like, not my problem, mate.
Not my problem at all.
Like, there was a guy in Scotland who had written Islam is questionable on a wall, and he got arrested for this.
I was like, right, Islam is questionable.
No, that's offensive.
Everything is questionable.
Well, I would have thought so.
Everything.
You know, and I don't think these guys should be arrested, but then I don't think we should have offense laws.
No.
Because I'm an old-fashioned Englishman like that.
And this is one step further on that.
This is Minority Report.
This is...
I think you may write on that paper, then hold it up.
Yep.
So what's next?
You have a pen in your pocket...
Where does this start?
Exactly.
Can we agree with the leftists now who would like to be offensive during the transition to the new king?
Can we agree that we need to get rid of these offense laws?
Everything is offensive to somebody.
Exactly.
Everything is!
Exactly.
And so you just have to get over it.
It's actually your own personal method of dealing with it that's important.
But yeah, no, three arrests at least have been made on suspicion of breach of the peace and public law offenses because of anti-monarchical sentiments.
Okay, well, I don't think you should go to jail.
I don't think you should be arrested.
But I don't think people should be arrested for things they say on Twitter either.
So, you know, you made the bed.
Get effed in it.
Incidentally, there was a really funny event that happened in Mecca over this.
A Yemeni man published a video clip of himself on social media at the Grand Mosque in Mecca, where non-Muslims are forbidden, holding up a banner saying, Umrah for the soul of Queen Elizabeth II, we ask God to accept her in heaven among the righteous.
He got arrested for that.
Is this the same story or is this a different one where the man at Mecca was arrested for saying he's done his pilgrimage in honour of the Queen?
No, I'm not familiar with that one.
In this particular one, he specifically had a banner and he videoed himself doing it.
We don't hold the Saudis to any sort of standard, do we?
But that's the point.
Our offence laws have put us in the same box as the Saudis.
We're actually arresting people for the same reasons that the Saudis would do.
And if that's not a wake-up call to the Conservatives to say, well, hang on a second, maybe we should get rid of the Communications Act of 2003, particularly Section 127, and any other breach of the peace, like, you know, offence laws that we've got in the books, maybe we should get rid of these.
That would be a good idea, so people could have a bit of free speech in public.
Anyway, moving on, let's...
The Guardian published this particular...
View on the Parliament.
The Parliament shouldn't bend the knee to the monarchy.
The Parliament can do anything at once, actually.
So why do you need to start bigging up the Parliament?
Is this the time?
But that's the thing.
I noticed that this, again, just has no teeth.
There's no force behind this.
They can't...
I mean, listen to this from the end, right?
Who is the head of state does not matter.
Birthright is not the right way to choose one.
Parliament is the place to decide whether Britain needs a slimmed-down monarchy or not one at all.
There is an appeal to a sovereign to stand above the frame in the modern age of political populism.
But MPs should not bend the knee before inheritance and rank.
Modern Britain has little need for trappings and privileges that belong to another age.
It feels empty, doesn't it?
Two quick points.
The first point is these are the same people who won unelected citizens' assemblies.
Oh yes.
And they love the bureaucracy as well.
Yeah, so they don't mean what they say there.
And B, if you are an MP, You have to place your trust and your obedience to them on it because head of state, how can you have members of parliament who have not shown their fealty to the head of state?
It just wouldn't make any sense because then that person then is not head of state of the whole country, only the head of state for the people who support the head of state.
And then that's not head of state, is it?
Yeah.
Whose parliament are you a member of?
Yeah.
It's the king's parliament.
That's the whole point.
But the point is, modern Britain has little need for the trappings and privileges that belong to another age.
It's like, I don't see that at all.
What I see are literally millions of people who are suddenly moved by the ancient trappings.
Who are living in modern Britain and saying, no, I don't really like modern Britain.
I actually like the ancient trappings and the ceremony and the structure that's built up around that.
This Guardian editorial, it just felt like it was totally out of touch with the spirit of what's currently going on.
Literally huge numbers of people being moved by this.
And they're just like, yeah, no one needs this.
Nah, I think it does, actually.
Because it's our history.
It all means something.
We may not understand...
What any of it means, most people, but some people understand what some of it means.
But it's our tradition.
It's where we came from.
It's how we've got to where we are.
It's our story.
It's our story.
And that's the thing.
Stories are so important.
And in fact, I've got a great story that will come to nearly an end on this.
So you're aware of Afua Hirsch?
She annoys me all the time.
It's hard to find someone who's more anti-British than Afua.
And of course...
You know she moved to Africa for a couple of years.
And then got assaulted.
Got robbed, got sexually assaulted, came back and said, oh, I'm not too keen on Africa.
Yeah, I know.
And it was specifically Ghana where her mother was from.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly, yes.
And she's got a story from her time in Ghana that's pertinent now, right?
She says, I will never forget visiting Independence Arch in Ghana.
This was the nation proud to have been the first black African people to successfully break free from empire, and here was the first physical, focal point of that freedom, an archway bearing a symbolic black star.
When I looked inside, I found a reality check.
A plaque dedicated this freedom to none other than Queen Elizabeth II. Owned from beyond the grave.
Because the British Empire and the Queen were not hated.
No, they weren't.
They're like, thank you for decolonizing, Queen.
Yes.
And they put up a block to her.
And Afro Hirsch has spent her entire life demonizing Britain and the monarchy.
And gets there and realizes that the actual people from Ghana...
Like the Queen.
And they put up a thing saying, thank you, in honour of Queen Elizabeth.
And she just sat there like, I can't believe it.
And so she's like, I understood it as a lesson that even in our freedom, we are not free.
Oh, God, give it up.
You know, what more do you want?
What could we possibly give you?
There's no change in minds of people like that.
It's a bit like when you left home as a 17, 18, 20-year-old, you then automatically hate your dad because he was a tyrant who ran your household and now you've broken free.
It doesn't work like that.
No, no.
As you say, this plaque here that she is being destroyed by in her own article is exactly the proof that you need.
You know, oh, we were the first black African people to successfully break free.
And then we put a little plug saying, we love you.
Thank you, Queen Elizabeth.
Yeah, let's stay friends.
Yeah, exactly.
It doesn't make sense.
We're still connected historically.
We want to be connected in the future.
Yeah.
And let's carry on.
And she wants that country to hate the UK. And they don't.
Exactly.
But she does hate that country.
Because as you said, you know, when she went there, she got robbed and sexually assaulted.
And was like, oh my God, I can't.
Can't live here.
I've got to live in London.
Well, she thought she was going to be their version of the female Gandhi or Mandela.
Yes.
Welcome home, our lost sister.
Your trials and tribulations.
Tell us your stories.
You're with your people now.
I did a segment on this actually a while ago because in 2012, she'd come back and be like, I can't live in Africa.
Oh, where are you going to live then, Afua?
Oh, you're going to live in England, aren't you?
Hear them moan about it.
Yeah, exactly.
And be paid to moan about it the day after day.
Because we'll accept you moaning about it.
Yeah, exactly.
Most countries won't accept that.
Exactly.
Exactly right.
And so, yeah.
And what's funny is she ends this by saying, if it were possible to set all of this to one side, as in all of her hatred and demonization of Britain, maybe I would like to mourn the Queen.
It's like, well, then you could, actually.
You could get over yourself and actually mourn the queen.
But she's going, oh, I can't separate her from a reign that refused to acknowledge the reality of my lies.
And it's ironic because both of her grandfathers fled to Britain to escape tyrannical regimes.
Her grandfather from Ghana fled because he was being persecuted by the king of Ghana or whoever it was.
And her other grandfather was Jewish who fled from the Nazis.
They both fled to London.
It's like, yeah, that's because that's where people go.
What she's missing is some gratitude to this country.
Yes, indeed.
Just pure, old, simple gratitude.
Yeah.
And of course, just the final hater, I figure we'll go through here...
Kendi Andrews, I don't mourn the Queen.
Of course you don't, Kendi.
You can't.
You spent your entire life demonizing this country.
And the Queen, of course, is white.
I mean, he calls her the number one symbol of white supremacy.
Oh, God, Kendi.
Give it up, mate.
You know, no one is interested in hearing about your view of this anymore.
Unfortunately, some people are, though.
Well, there are, but this has not been...
I just don't see this being the focal point of the conversation now.
I hope not.
I hope this, with the Queen's passing, I hope this now changes the nation.
I hope people now start rejecting some of this and calling this out.
Instead of sitting there quiet going, I'll listen to you talk rubbish because I'm not that interested.
Instead of doing that going, no, you're talking rubbish.
I'm not even speaking about the Queen like that or the country like that.
And that's what it needs.
It needs people getting a bit of a backbone.
And the silent majority stop being so silenced.
Well, if we go to the next one, you'll hear that this is an uptick in racism.
And if you go to the next one, in fact, the Independent are like, oh my God, the Queen's death has unleashed a torrent of racist abuse.
No, not having that at all.
What she means is the Queen's death has unleashed a sense of Britishness and people are talking about being British and are pulling people like her when she's being anti-British.
That's what she means.
That's exactly right.
And they are very, very upset by that.
But I tell you, we'll leave that there and move on to how we can tackle knife crime.
Yep.
Knife crime.
I've been tackling knife crime for 20 years.
And today, driving here to talk about knife crime, we've got this story.
Two London police officers were stabbed this morning.
I think it's Leicester Square in the middle of London.
Male officer stabbed three times in the neck and a female officer stabbed in the arm.
Both are going to survive, so I'm really thankful for that.
But what is our country coming to and what's the capital coming to when even police officers are being attacked with night crime?
London Mayor Sadiq Khan branded the incident as just another day in London.
No, sorry, he said utterly appalling.
I'm joking.
Yeah.
But it's like, this is your London Sadiq.
Sadiq Khan came in saying, I'm going to abolish stop and search because it's racist.
Yep, and we're going to get to that.
And to be fair, it's not all just about Sadiq Khan as well.
You know, he's like that, but the Conservative Party are just as equally to blame.
The next story is from Wednesday.
You need to have a look at this, you won't believe this.
This is in Huddersfield.
Which is, you know, not London.
And we have video captured of the, he looks like a teenager, masked up with, they call it a kitchen knife.
If you zoom in, it's not a kitchen knife.
It's a Rambo knife walking up to this Asian guy and stabbing him.
How damaged that man is, I don't know.
Broad daylight, outside a church, people filming, people walking past.
It's not in the middle of the night.
This is not after the pubs are closed.
This doesn't look gang-related.
I don't know what's going on here, but every day in Huddersfield.
And this gent is walking around with a 12-inch Rambo hunting knife.
Disgusting.
Absolutely.
But this, like I say, this is not just London now.
This is in all our small towns, cities.
Knife crime has become an epidemic.
I saw machete attacks were on the rise as well.
Like in Birmingham, there are gangs of youths just attacking each other in the middle of the street in the middle of the day with machetes.
It's like...
Cultural, because where does machetes come from?
Africa.
So this is a cultural import of using the machete, which we've never had before, apart from in the Chinese communities.
The Chinese gangs have used machetes.
I witnessed once in Manchester, Chinatown, some guy getting chopped up.
Don't know what he'd done, but this was about 30 years ago.
If you click onto the next photo, so that's me 20 years ago.
I had hair and it was black.
Haven't aged a day?
What are you talking about?
So, like I say, I've worked with the police and worked stopping kids getting involved in crime for over two decades.
Not just professionally, but personally as well.
So, I've been robbed at Nightpoint when I worked in a shop in Mosside in Manchester.
A month later, they came back with guns, robbed me for a second time.
My schoolteacher, when I was 15, music schoolteacher, got stabbed 42 times in the chest by a pupil who stayed after school to get her.
And a friend, his brother, was jumped by some lads coming home from school, about 15.
And he ran all the way home.
It was only when he got home his mum realised he had a knife sticking out of his back.
It punched his lung.
The knife was still in his lung.
And that's what saved his life because they got him to hospital.
Then the surgeons removed the knife.
Otherwise his lungs would have collapsed.
So I've seen this sort of stuff, you know, first hand from the 80s.
And I've been working on the streets and employed people to work on the streets for last two decades.
And that's about speaking to these young people about crime and consequences.
Can you guess why you think young people carry knives?
I would have thought it'd be out of self-defense.
That's probably the number one reason we get told.
So you'll have the hardcore criminals involved in gangs, and we tend not to speak to them because they won't speak to youth workers on the streets.
But the kids who are low-level involved in stuff or just everyday kids hanging around, when we speak to them about the knife they're carrying, the number one reason is for protection.
And we say, why protection?
But because of social media and the media in general, they're terrified.
They read people being stabbed and people carrying knives.
And they've come to the conclusion, a bit like us with the nuclear deterrent.
If you have the bomb, we need the bomb.
And these kids are going, if these people have got knives, I need a knife.
And those kids are not the violent ones.
They're more likely to be stabbed by their knife because they don't have it in them to stab somebody.
So they pull it out.
And then the other kid goes, I'm not having that.
I'll take it off you.
I'll take it off you because I know you won't stab me.
But when I get your knife, I'm stabbing you, mate, because you've disrespected me.
So some of the knife crime is about that.
It's also about fashion.
We have kids showing us their knives.
Coming up and just go, look what I've got, I bought off the internet and we'll pull out zombie knives and pull out this and pull out that.
Weren't they banned?
Zombie knives?
I thought they were made legal.
You can't go into a shop in the UK to buy one, but the internet, you buy it off the internet.
They'll call it a fruit paring knife.
And you'll buy it online.
It comes as a zombie knife, so there's way around all this.
But it's a status symbol.
Look what I've got.
It's the latest thing.
Look what I've got.
The amount of knives I've taken off kids.
And I've done it in a voluntary way because I can't just grab them by the throat and put the knife on the hand.
I've got to say, When you leave this here and the police stop you in 10 minutes time, you know you might do time for that.
You scare them and they give you a knife and then we put it in the vehicle and we'll destroy it ourselves.
So I've taken dozens of knives off kids.
It's really, really frightening what they're carrying around with.
When we talk about Sadiq Khan, if we go to the next...
So there's Sadiq Khan.
2015?
Yeah, when he was running for mayor saying he's going to court stop and search.
Oh, it was so racist, Sadiq.
Yep, so racist.
You know, our people are so friendly and nobody hurts each other in London.
And what have we seen in the last six, seven, eight years?
Oh, it's been horrific.
Epidemic of knife crime and crime in general.
Well, more dangerous than New York.
Yes.
At one point.
And so it's just like, wow, well done, Sadiq.
And this is in the daytime.
This is machete fights between different gangs.
This is people now, you know, stealing your watches off you, walking down the streets, robbing your car, people being assaulted.
People always stop and film it.
But you notice no one helps anybody anymore now in London.
Why would you?
Not exactly.
Why would you?
Who are those people?
I don't know them.
Because there's no sense of community.
But I think pride would make me at least try to help.
I don't think I could live with myself if I didn't try to help.
But that's, you come from a different era.
I do.
I do.
You're not one of these atomized, year zero Londoners who just sprung out of the soil and owe nothing to anyone.
But even though I do not like Sadiq Khan for many, many reasons, if we go to the next story...
It really isn't Sadiq Khan's fault, because Sadiq Khan isn't in charge of the police across the country.
Theresa May started this in 2012 when she said, I'm going to reduce stop and search.
I'm going to get to a graph in a minute.
But Theresa May in 2014 publicly told the police officer saying, you're doing too many stop and searches, even though I've changed the law now, and a quarter of a million of them could be illegal.
And we wonder why the police go, well, I'm doing no stopping searching because even the Home Office are telling me I could be illegally doing this.
That is mad.
And that's because when Cameron came along in 2010 with his, when you look back now, it really was a woke agenda.
Oh, it was Blair.
With his hugging his hugger hoodie, going to the North Pole.
All this thing started there.
He brought in diversity quotas for the Conservative Party.
Gay marriage.
He was literally just a continuation of Blair.
Yeah, because he saw how you win, and he went, I don't care how I do, I just want to be Prime Minister, and carried on the winning formula.
So, never forget, it's the Tories who have ruined criminal disorder in this country over the last 12 years, and Theresa May was part of that in 2012.
Now, if you go to the next graph, this is the amount of stops and searches from 2001 all the way up to last year.
Yeah.
So we're going up, we're going up until about 2009.
No, it's Tony Blair and his Labour Party were happy to do it.
Yep, because they knew what the public want.
Even minority communities want tough crime in order.
Of course they do.
Because they're usually the biggest victims of it.
It was very similar to the Democrats in America saying, oh, we're going to defund the police.
And then they just polled minority communities and they're like, I don't want fewer police.
Like there are dangerous gangs going around.
I'd like more police, if possible, please.
I've knocked on thousands of doors in my old job when I worked for the council of police in the most diverse areas of Manchester.
So Cheetah Mill, Mossside, Hume, all those areas.
And what everyone says to you on the door when you're talking about this sort of stuff is, I want more police in my area.
No one has ever said to me, I want less police.
I would like more anarchy, please.
I would like shootings and stabbings and gangs driving around and killing each other and dealing drugs.
The second thing to say, the big, the second highest thing to say to you is they want more CCTV. Yeah.
No, why?
Because they want to be and feel protected.
And then Theresa May comes in with the new Tory government and look at that job.
From 1.2 million stops and searches all the way down to 2018, we've got a quarter of a million.
So almost a million less stop and searches.
You know, I bet the Labour Party were haranguing them the whole time.
Why are you doing so many stops and searches?
Why are you doing so many stops and searches?
Like, because A, it's your policy, and B, it's a good idea.
Yep.
For once, the Labour Party actually have a good idea.
But then they know that at the next election, the Labour Party are going, we can talk about crime disorder because look at the state of the country they're in.
So that's why we have a knife crime and a crime epidemic.
It's because people are not being stopped and searched.
Yeah.
I work with young people who don't know anyone who's ever been stopped and searched.
I got stopped and searched when I was a kid several times.
But they don't know anybody.
So therefore, you come to the conclusion, I can carry a knife as long as I'm not waver about.
Nobody will ever stop and search me.
And what we need is we need young people thinking, when I leave this house, I could get stopped and searched randomly.
And if I'm carrying a knife, I'm in big trouble.
And that's how we start reducing young people carrying knives.
Fear of consequences.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I'm in fist.
I'm totally in favour of it.
Press the young people.
If we go to the next picture, just to hold the screen while we're talking about this.
The issue, and let's be honest, the main issue with Stop and Search is it's politically awkward.
And it's because more black young men are stopped than anybody else.
And the reason for that is more young black men involved in street crime and violence than any other group.
And that's just a fact.
Go to the government website, look at the stats.
It's all there.
And that's not racist, that's facts.
That's like saying we don't have to investigate white Christians' parents for FGM. Yeah.
Because we know they're not going to commit FGM because crime is cultural.
So certain sections of the population are more likely to commit certain crimes than other.
And it's just, it's cultural.
It's like suggesting that, you know, tax evasion is racist against the white community.
Because most tax avoidance investigations are against straight white men or something.
It's just that's the kind of crime that community will commit because of their ethics and what they've got access to.
Yeah.
If you look at a basketball team, it'll be predominantly made up of young black men.
Do we claim that's racism because there's not enough Chinese people or Japanese people in that team?
Yeah.
But there's a particular kind of ethic in this particular community that facilitates young men forming gangs and stabbing each other.
Not worse.
Yeah, well, that's just the fact of it.
So part of the problem is, you're right, lack of fathers, lack of education, and a poor culture.
That's why the vast majority of ethnic minorities have moved this country in the first place, because their country was failing.
Why was it failing?
Because their culture was failing that country.
So we allow people to move this country and we allow them to keep their failing culture.
And then we're surprised when we have issues that are very similar to what they had in their home countries.
Well, we allowed them to keep their own culture.
We allowed them to fail.
We did them a disservice.
They should have landed here, lived here, and then we should have said, and we're going to help you be better than you are by embracing our culture, because our culture delivers this.
And you want this, and you need to be part of this.
And if you embrace our culture, you can contribute to all of this, and your kids will have a great life.
But that's politically...
Well, it's very politically incorrect.
Absolutely.
It is absolutely true that it's the ethics of the community.
Like you said, the culture is predicated on a certain kind of ethics.
I mean, you know, in this community, okay, well, the ethics are, you know, you stab someone for disrespecting you.
Okay, but that's not how it is in English communities.
It may have been 150 years ago.
If we look at things like Peaky Blinders, you know, the English were just as violent and just as stab friendly as some of these groups are today.
It takes hundreds of years to change a culture.
And we spent a lot of time and a lot of money, a lot of energy changing our underclass in this country to make them better citizens.
And then just as we got to a stage where it was having huge impacts and we were seeing the way, we imported problems from all over the third world and now we're going to have to do it all over again.
So I'm not saying this is a problem for foreigners only.
Crime isn't foreigners.
Everyone commits crime.
But we solved our problems over centuries and then we imported it all again to do again.
We did it by being honest about what the problem was.
This is the thing, like...
Like you say, it's politically uncomfortable to say, well, look, this community has a problem with this kind of crime, but it is the fact of the matter, and if you want to stop that, which, and let's be real, it's good for them to have someone intervene in this downward spiral that this community is involved in.
It doesn't get any better if you leave them on their own.
Their children are dying in pools of their own blood.
Yeah, in the middle of the day.
I've seen so many videos of just like, just gags of black kids chasing each other around with knives and stabbing each other literally in doorways and just in the middle of the street.
There's no benefit to them.
It's not a charity or kindness to be like, well, I don't want to be a racist and get involved and stop them from stabbing each other.
No, it's evil to allow them to continue doing this.
It is.
We're allowing them to fail.
So I'm one of these people who always likes to give a solution than just looking at that saying, oh, woe woes and look at what's happening.
We need to take on board the politicalization of stop and search.
But stop and search is the answer as well as family intervention.
But let's look at stop and search.
The answer is to give the power back to the residents of those neighbourhoods.
So we should look at each council ward, which is usually a couple thousand people.
They have elections almost every year to elect a councillor.
So we add another ballot with them.
So it doesn't cost the council anything because everyone's short of money.
And we give every resident in that area, every adult resident, a simple question to answer in their ballot.
Do you want more stop and search in this area?
Yes or no?
If they vote no, For whatever reason, then they carry on with the policing as it is at the moment.
If they vote yes, the police then have instructed to do more stop and search.
And when those police officers are accused of racism and targeted, we say, we're doing what the public in this ward asked us to do.
And we give the power and responsibility back to the people because that's where they always should reside anyway, with the people.
And some areas may say, oh no, we don't want it.
Well, that's fine.
Don't complain when your children are being stabbed to death.
And the areas that want more stop and search hopefully will have a higher quality of life and their children will be safer.
And the thing is as well, because if it's a yearly election or a vote, well, okay, you might not want it now, but after a few kids get stabbed, I mean, well, actually maybe I'll Yep.
Or have you seen the wards two wards down?
Yeah.
They've got heavy stop and search.
There's been no crime.
All the gang members now don't hang around in that ward anymore.
Now they go to other wards where they won't get stopped in search.
And we give the people the power because it's their children were policing and it's their children was trying to stop from dying.
Let's take the politics out of it.
Let's give it to the people and saying, this is where you live.
This is your home.
Your choice.
Your choice.
What do you want?
Because we're sick of being blamed and taking responsibility.
You just vote on it and we'll do what you do because we're the public service.
See, to be honest with you, I mean, I think that's a very, very good solution.
But I'm just thinking, you know, I'd just impose it.
We don't want stop and search.
That's not my problem.
You know, you're getting stop and search.
The kids in this country should live under a reign of terror when they see a couple of bobbies walking down the street.
Oh, my God, we're in But we haven't got the politicians who will do it.
I'm trying to find the way that can be acceptable.
But in my dream world, you know, it'll be like when I was a kid, if a couple of cops come around the club, they'll be like, oh God, I haven't done anything wrong, but I'm a bit worried that they might think I've done something wrong.
But like I said, from memory, three or four times I got stopped and searched growing up on my council estate, and it was all white.
Good.
Exactly.
I don't care about the race of the kids.
It's just that they are kids.
I want them living in fear of the police, like I did.
You know, that's the way things should be done.
But, you know, seriously, I think that's a good solution because, I mean, okay, well, all you can say is the diverse ward here that has voted for Stop and Search is racist against themselves.
Take the race baiters out of it.
Exactly.
That's the best they could argue.
And that's a silly argument.
We're doing what the people said.
Oh, you're racist.
Well, the people in Serbia voted for this.
We can't be racist.
Yeah.
Well, they're racist then.
That's what you're saying.
I also sent a good message to the children in those areas.
This is what our parents and this is what our neighbourhood wants.
So maybe we are doing something wrong.
Or maybe I'm a good kid, but I'll feel safe in that because my local neighbourhood is sticking up for my life.
They want tougher action because they're trying to save me.
I mean, the kids who don't want to get involved in this will have a place to go as well.
Those wards that are safer.
As in the wards that have heavy stop and search.
Well, I'll just go there because I don't want to get stabbed.
The good parents won't let their children out and play in some areas.
Oh, exactly.
Because A, I don't want my child being corrupted because children will make poor decisions and can follow groups sometimes and do want to fit in.
So children aren't perfect.
So I'm not putting my kid at risk of that.
So my kid doesn't play out.
He can bring friends into the house, but he doesn't play out.
That's not a great lifestyle for a kid anyway.
That's the opposite of what it was like when we were young, right?
I'd be out all day.
My parents wouldn't have any worries about it.
And I come back when it was dark with red cheeks.
And my mum, oh, your dinner's in the microwave or something.
You know, it was just fine.
It was normal.
No one was like, oh God, you might get stabbed.
Exactly.
But Knifecrown, we need to do something as a nation.
And that's the only thing I can think of that would be acceptable at the moment.
We need to make a start.
And the good thing about that is, as well, is that, I mean, you could have it almost like a scale, you know, how stringent do you want the stop and searchers to be?
You could get some communities, like, we want them all day, every day.
You know, we want every kid to be stopped and searched when they leave the house, you know, as far as we're concerned.
You know, you could have really quite, you know, the community being like, no, we want aggressive stop and search.
You know, and I'd definitely vote for that, actually.
Damn right.
But anyway, do we have video comments today, John?
I'm surprised that Carl doesn't know about the Last Church in the 40K series.
It's basically a short story about the Emperor going off to visit the Last Church on Earth before his Great Crusade, and basically has him debating the priest on the merits of, um, I'll
go and look it up.
Hey Carl, I just wanted to say thanks.
I have been happy with my new job doing web development, and I have enjoyed playing around with some of the AI image generators.
But just in one podcast, I now want to burn my computer, run away into the woods, and live by the words of Uncle Ted.
In all seriousness though, I really enjoyed these segments on technology and AI, particularly the philosophy and philosophical implications around the AI. I hope you'll be able to do more segments on that in the future, and I look forward to the next R-Cyberpunk Dystopia.
Yeah, the Cyberpunk dystopia podcasts are quite popular because basically what I do is every time in my timeline, something from a Cyberpunk dystopia, they're like, oh, you know, we can create babies out of nothing now.
We just generate a human baby and fabricate one.
It's like, right, okay, that's the Brave New World dystopia.
So I'll save it and then just go through when I've got like, you know, four pages of things saved.
This is the future that's being mapped out for us here.
And it is harrowing, to be honest.
It's like, oh my God, none of this is good.
Why would we want this?
You know, this is all terrible.
Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And so, yeah, I mean, but they're entertaining to do because by the end of it, it's like, you know, like you say, you know, King Ludd can make a return as far as I'm concerned.
Smash the machines.
That's good, thanks one.
Questions are inevitable about how long Charles III will last as king, but that's not as important as the trend in our monarchy.
Going back to the Kingdom of Wessex, King Egbert reigned for thirty-seven years.
The time of reign for monarchs shows no distinct pattern, but the cumulative average has declined to a minimum of around eleven years.
Fortunately for England, the cumulative average has been increasing since William I, and now stands at 17 years.
Even if Charles only reigns for 15 years and William follows with a reign of 30, that's still increasing the average.
I reckon he's got 20 years in him.
Yeah.
He's had the best healthcare money could buy.
Yeah, exactly.
Although, you've seen his sausage fingers, right?
No.
He's really swollen fingers, so maybe there's something wrong.
No.
Who knows?
Could that be stress-related?
No idea.
Water retention or something like that.
No idea.
But anyway, Bleach Demon says, it's absolutely tragic that only in moments such as the Queen's death bring national myths and the underlying culture to the fore.
I hope that maybe this will be Queen Elizabeth's final gift to Britain.
Well, I mean, we've been undergoing, like, a siege on the culture for decades now.
You know, the leftists have been constantly, every single day, a leftist, dozens of them, hundreds of them, get up and then write their Britain bad article.
Right, put that on the internet.
Brilliant.
I've done my part for the revolution.
You know, every single day, you know?
So it's not surprising.
What's surprising is just how strong the sense of feeling has been.
How little effect those leftists had.
Yeah.
And people like me and you were thinking they were having a tremendous effect.
Yeah, yeah.
And it turns out they weren't because being British is in us.
And it's very hard...
One thing I noticed when I was watching the procession of people walking by is that, obviously, you know, I'd say it was about 50% of people sort of 50 or older.
But the rest of it was younger, you know, like, not that many, like, old people compared to what I was expecting.
So that was a surprise.
It was good to see.
Generico says, I know you love England, Carl, but the thing is the history of England isn't yours alone.
Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and maybe even still some in the USA share that history too.
It wasn't so long ago that we were the same people.
Our ancestors fought side by side with King Alfred at Eddington, with King Henry V at Agincourt, and with Wellington at Waterloo.
Well, American ancestors didn't fight Wellington, did they?
Just teasing.
But this is why King Charles is our king too.
We must never forget that we're kin.
United we are strong.
Divided we will be destroyed.
Fair.
Ignacio says, I envy you, Brits.
If the King of Spain died, the voice of leftist Republican hate would be magnitude louder and the calls for a new republic would probably reach violence.
Have you been seeing people calling for a republic?
Yes.
How do you feel that has impacted the discourse?
I don't think many people in this country understand what a republic is anyway, because we've never had one and most people are not that political.
The closest is Cromwell maybe?
Yeah.
When we are talking about a republic, the question that jumps into my mind is, who would we have as head of state?
An elected head of state?
Fantastic.
Every five years?
Fantastic.
Who would we have?
We would have retired or failed politicians.
And how can...
Let's say we have Tony Blair, who'd be...
President Tony Blair.
Yeah, a very successful Prime Minister, even if you agree with him or not.
Oh yeah, he's a brilliant politician.
Very successful, very clever man.
If we had him as...
I've almost said prime minister then, but president?
Would he represent the country?
Because he's on the political side of only half the country.
Well, at least with the monarchy, they're on everybody's side because they're non-political.
And would we want...
You know, a David Cameron president.
No, I wouldn't.
It would be awful.
And they would spend all their time trying to feather their nest, knowing they're out in five years.
Yeah.
At least for the monarchy, it's service.
They're in it for life.
Yeah.
They're well off, so they're not feathering their nest.
It's duty.
And the train from birth, the duty...
And I've described this, like, I saw Harry gave an interview with Meghan Markle saying, I didn't realize I was in this kind of bubble where I was trapped, you know?
And I've described this as kind of like a golden cage, in a way.
Oh, yeah.
Like, the Queen is not free in the way I'm free.
No.
You know, I can just, you know, decide to go somewhere and have a beer, you know?
And I'm like, all right, I'm just going to go down to the local pub, hang out with a few friends, have a beer.
Okay, you know, I'm not living in the luxury that the Queen's living in, but she can't just do something.
Her entire day, her entire week is probably planned out long in advance.
Absolutely.
It was, sorry.
But she can't even express her own opinion.
Exactly.
She's probably got 10 people in the world that she could have a conversation with knowing it would be confident and confidential.
But she can't even just use a quip because how's that?
These people aren't really free.
No.
I'm not even saying it's a happy life.
They're born into it.
I can see why Harry escaped from it, in a way.
It is a duty that you have to take on.
And obviously, William's gone the other way and lent into it.
I don't know, man.
There's a certain level of unfreedom they obviously have.
I'm just like, I don't envy it.
I do not envy it.
I'd rather be the poor man of the shires.
Hammurabi says, I'm a filthy Yankee and I still wish I had the opportunity to pay my respects to Her Majesty.
She's more than just an old queen.
She's Queen Elizabeth II. May she rest in peace.
Omar says, queuing is the British version of the trolley problem.
That's a great way of phrasing it.
We know we're in a civilized society because people go through the effort of suffering a minor inconvenience for no other reason than maintaining a better community.
You aware of the trolley problem?
No.
Well, basically, if you go to a supermarket car park and you take your trolley out, the civilized man returns the trolley to the trolley room.
And queuing, that's the American version of the British queue.
When Brits see there's something on offer, well, you go and join the queue.
Yeah.
I mean, you just don't think about it.
Like, the incredibly rude foreigner who tries to jump the queue.
Scowl at that man.
Yeah.
Bilbo Bagains says, The queue is closed.
Please join the queue immediately behind the queue so you can join the queue when the queue reopens.
Basically, yeah.
It's just hilarious.
Rose says, I'm actually not familiar with what C.S. Lewis is referencing there, so I can't tell you.
Harry says, It punches through the miasma of reductionist cynicism.
The transcendental still lives.
I just hope it isn't a quick flash in the pan, but I'm probably wrong, unfortunately.
I don't know.
I don't see people being cynical about this.
No, I think it will...
Wayne, and it'll go back to being quiet and not talked about and discussed, but it sure knows that it's always there.
We're just not the type of people to wear our emotions on our sleeve.
Yeah.
And, you know, always having parades.
It's not in us.
Lord Nerevar, just to sum up your comment quickly, we are so back.
It's like, I hope so.
Kevin says, that's what I can never get my head around.
The social justice warriors are always defending black miscreants because whites don't understand their lived experience.
Yeah, and the social justice warriors don't accept, oddly, that the whites too have a lived experience, but they are not accepted.
Yeah, and I think the obvious unfairness of having consideration for one and not the other is something that eventually we'll have to resolve.
We can't just live in this constant state of unfairness.
There's another time that we do that and we accept it, and that's when it's adults versus children.
Yeah, that's the only time.
That's the only time we do it because their children, as an adult you should know better, they get away with a lot more and have a lot more freedom and love expression and leeway because they're children and they don't know everything yet.
Yeah, and they can't be expected to control themselves in the way you can be expected.
Hence why I think it's really, really insulting the way we treat some of these minority groups because we treat them like children.
Well, we do, and it's disgusting.
It is disgusting.
S.H. Silver says, The death of the Queen seems to have reignited a passion in the country that people have taken for granted, a sense of shared community that is particular to their country.
Yeah.
Robert Longshaw, to your point, says, Well, where's the Commonwealth of the USSR? Well, they all join NATO. Exactly, exactly.
They can't wait to join NATO, you know?
I mean, that's what the current war in Ukraine is about.
The fear of the ex-Russian...
Coming back?
...colony, yeah, exactly.
You know, going to the opponents.
So yeah, that's a great point.
Hammurabi says, I can't speak for all Americans, but our 4th of July celebrations are often less of a screw you Britain and more of a happy birthday America.
Celebrating independence isn't a sign of lingering resentment.
If anything, it's gratitude for giving our country a head start in developing.
Well, your country wouldn't be anything without a British colony.
And I've always looked upon the 4th of July celebrations as a celebration of their birth, and it's never come across as anything else.
Yeah, no, I never felt like it was resentment or anything.
No, I never felt any of that.
A celebration.
No, and Afua Hirsch must have been upset getting to Ghana and realizing they're not resentful either.
Honestly, that phrase, I was reading this article going, oh, go on, Afua.
I got to that and say, and what did I find in there?
Queen Elizabeth.
Thank you, Queen Elizabeth.
I was like, yes, just, you must have been so angry.
Even her people can't make her see she's wrong.
Yeah, exactly.
Nothing will make her see that she's wrong.
Ross says, The Guardian, do not bend the knee to the monarchy.
The Guardian, you must bend the knee to Black Lives Matter.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I just can't take it.
The left have to get rid of the monarchy because, again, that's our story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.
They have to get rid of it.
And it's literally the antithesis of everything they could want.
It's, you know, a person, a family that we use to tie ourselves all the way back to Alfred the Great and all the way into who knows into the future.
And they're like, yeah, but we want now and only now.
It's like, I don't care.
We want equity.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't care.
You get nothing from me.
I will literally give you just the cold face.
Free Will says they will only feel completely free when they have memory hold the whole of Britain in its history.
Yeah, that's how the left feel about everything.
Colin says, Nick has a good point here.
Some of the odd closures seem to suggest that some organizations are now so used to virtue signaling the latest thing that they're just doing it anyway.
That's a good point.
I mean, like, you know, I can understand, you know, certain things closing, but like, turning off the beeps?
What the hell's that?
Yeah.
Tristan says, I disagree that the guy heckling the funeral ought not to have been arrested.
He should have been arrested.
He shouldn't have been prosecuted.
If he was spoiling the event for others, that's reasons for moving from the premises.
Fair enough.
You know, for public disorder.
Public order offense.
Fair enough.
It's where did you draw the line?
Who gets to decide where that line is?
For me, it's a slippy slope.
I think Tristan actually has a very good point here.
If you want to stand there with your not-my-king son, okay, great.
But if you're yelling and interrupting and preventing things from proceeding as they should, fair enough.
Get out.
Let the crowd, let the people police their own section of the crowd.
Well, there was some kid who got punched for interrupting, wasn't there?
Well done, guys.
Casey says, Britain needs an indigenous pride movement.
Kevin says, perhaps if the parents did stop and search on their kids before they leave the house, police wouldn't have to.
Again, in many of these cases, the parents are just as likely to fall afoul of stop and search.
What do you make of that?
No, most parents of these kids wouldn't fall foul.
Some of them will, some of them will be criminals, but the vast majority are not.
And once you know your parents are searching you, leaving your front door.
I mean, I remember my sister hiding her cigarettes outside, not bringing them in the house because mum would go for her pockets and rip them up.
So it wouldn't work.
Colin says, I actually see a parallel here with the She-Hulk series.
There is a clip from the first episode when the heroine says that every woman lives in fear of being murdered all the time.
My question would be, well, what makes you think that?
And I suspect the answer is, as Nick suggests, the media.
Yeah, so tell me a bit more about the effect of the media that it has on these communities.
Yeah, so you've got mainstream media.
So that will, you know, when there's a survey of stabbing or something like that, that's on the news.
So then they're famous, right?
So they're famous.
The parents, you know, the parents are watching it.
They're worried about their children.
The children are seen on the mainstream news.
It's being clipped.
That's all over social media.
So they're sharing on, you know, Yeah.
Chats to their friends.
Then people, you know, their friends are filming people with knives.
It's going on TikTok and everything else.
They're seeing that.
There's lessons in school.
I mean, this is the worst thing.
We have anti-knife lessons in school, which is a complete waste of time.
Yeah.
Because the kids who are the most dangerous with knives...
And not in your school anyway.
You kicked them out a couple of years ago, so they're not even getting a lesson.
And the kids who understand about knife crime are not carrying knives.
And the ones on the edge, you've just pushed them over now because now you've spent 45 minutes.
Now they think knife crime's everywhere.
They're going home now to get a knife.
So anti-knife crime messages in school don't work.
Bad point.
JC says, stop knife crime, the right to bear arms, please.
Wow.
I don't think children should be bearing arms, frankly.
The problem is with young people.
And I do flirt with this sometimes.
I do flirt about should we arm the UK like we do America?
I mean, I would like to be armed.
Because citizens then can protect themselves, but then we're in that arms race where at the moment someone who mugs you in the street It's unlikely to have a weapon at the moment.
Some will have knives, none will have guns.
But when the robber then knows you may have a gun...
He'll get a gun.
He has a gun and he's more likely maybe to shoot you first because he can't wait till you pull your gun out.
It's that escalation.
So even though I can see some benefits to it, I'm still on the fence that we need to have as little arms and weapons in the country as possible, not more.
Fuzzy Toaster says, is there anything Sadiq part and parcel Khan has done well in his tenure as Mayor of London?
I can't think of anything.
He's become more divisive.
He's been...
I think people hate him more now than they did before.
But he won his second term.
Yeah.
It was more narrow, though, wasn't it?
It was narrower than anyone thought.
Yeah.
But the fact he won it shows that people are still willing to vote for him.
Or the percentage of people who just don't vote.
Yes.
That's what we've always got to look at, the people who don't vote.
Because the election I stood in Greater Manchester against Andy Burnham for mayor...
It was something like 65% of the voters didn't even vote.
Same in Wales, isn't it?
Where it's like 35% of people vote for the Welsh Assembly.
It's like, what's the point of even having this?
And then you get half, and you claim that a victory, and you've got 18% of the whole vote.
That's the same with the SNP. Half of Scotland doesn't vote, and the SNP get about half of that.
And it's just like, okay, so, you know, no wonder the SNP would just say, look, we're just going to shut up.
Well, can I say anti-monarchy stuff?
Because there could be this giant groundswell of counter-opinion that comes to bite us.
Just like the chip shop owner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Peter says, to kind of disagree with the narrative about the Hug a Hoodie campaign, as laughable as it was when we had the era of Chavs, it was an attempt at bringing a generation of young men back from the abyss by giving them a stake in society.
We laughed at the time, we're not laughing now.
It was more about the disconnection, and obviously we need to do this, but the problem is the phenomenon of the chav was something that Tony Blair's welfare state created anyway, because anything that incentivizes and facilitates the breakup of poor families is bad.
Yeah.
It's just end of story.
The phrase, oh God, it was terrible.
Yeah.
His pictures...
At the time, we're terrible.
Not one young person ever mentioned David Cameron or any of that to me.
So it didn't get down to that.
The only thing he did look at was the Troubled Families program.
And that's where we needed investment in.
And that didn't work that well.
Alexander says, everyone's filming.
No one is helping.
Well, your government has disarmed all of you.
You don't have guns.
You don't even have your own knives.
What are the people supposed to do?
Run up and get stabbed as well.
Yes, that's what a man should do.
That's what real men do.
Real men put themselves in between the criminal and the rest of society.
That's what men used to do.
That's how we got the grooming gang rapes, is because men went, I'm not getting involved.
Police men went, I'm not getting involved.
Other people said, I'm not getting involved.
And the reason why we have a worse problem now is you only tend to do that when you feel a kinship to the people you're trying to protect.
So when there's a community, because you do it and you're paying it forward hoping another man will do it when it's your mum being mugged.
So you do it to protect the community.
When there is no more community and you don't feel part of any section, then why would you put your life on the line?
For not only strangers, but for people who you don't really care about at all.
That's how we've got here.
And also, like, in previous eras, it wouldn't have just been one guy either.
Yeah.
and then it was a lot easier to you know one grabs you know yeah yeah yeah you know and so you know it's it's far less dangerous when you've got a you know like with the london bridge attacker in fact they had like the four guys yeah you know so suddenly you realize like none of them died you know um because actually when you've got a bunch of guys trying to disarm one guy it's a lot easier to do yeah actually um x summer says the demise of christianity means no more good samaritans
A specifically Christian ideal that made Europeans believe that it was a universal ideal.
What do you think about the decline of Christianity?
Well, that's contributed.
I don't think it's contributed to a decline in Good Samaritans.
I think that's the decline in culture and community.
But Christianity...
Again, community.
That's what Christianity was.
It's our fact now that nothing brings us together.
You know, we don't go to church together.
We don't see our neighbours.
We don't even know who our neighbours are next door.
And I'm as guilty as anybody else.
Yeah, me too.
But that's the society we've developed.
Yeah.
Casey says, as an American, I can't imagine how useless police would be without guns, even if they never used them, because you know every person killed would be another George Floyd, no matter the threat they posed.
Wouldn't it deter criminals looking stabbed if they knew they'd been shot?
What do your police do to threaten criminals?
Well, they do have pepper spray, hazers.
So they actually have ways.
But again, a criminal knowing that he's going to be shot by the police.
We'll have a gun.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, it's not like you're stabbing the cops.
You don't take a knife to a gunfight.
And Omar says, I hate it.
It's so condescending to treat minorities like they can't be held to the same standard as the rest of us.
If you don't reinforce laws and good community conduct, it's inevitable that people will fully operate within the allowed spectrum of behaviour.
We need to gatekeep morals again.
Hell, fandoms, communities, and borders too, we just need to gatekeep overall.
Honestly, Omar's comments are always brilliant.
I love his comments.
Like, he's got this brilliant way of summarizing exactly the problem.
And it is, unfortunately, for the people who are getting away with everything, not to let them get away with it, you know?
Whatever it is, we just have to be like, no, not accepting.
Stop making exceptions.
I've got a story from Manchester if you want to hear it.
Oh yeah, please.
So when I worked, I used to run Manchester City Centre in terms of crime and disorder.
And there is a canal that goes through the city centre, Rochdale Canal.
And at one point it goes underground and there's a footpath alongside it.
And that area historically has been used for...
Drug dealing?
Well, yeah, but mainly outdoor male sex.
So prostitution, but also men just hooking up who don't know each other for sex.
It's a seedy, dirty, smelly, awful place, as well as muggings and drug dealing.
But because it's a canal...
And a public footpath would get complaints in of canal barge owners going, when I took down there my two children watching four men give another four men blow jobs.
So we got complaints coming in and eventually we've got to do something about this.
So there was an action plan of what we could do.
First of all, we needed to engage the gay community because this is their lifestyle choice.
Not all of them, very tiny.
Most gay men think it's disgusting down there and would never go down there.
So we engage the community.
I funded and got some signs put up about public order.
80 pound fine can be arrested.
We spent a year engaging the community.
We had stalls on their community days and during Pride.
And just as we're about to turn to enforcement to go down there and start arresting people, We even got a CCTV camera with a speaker put down.
And the speaker could go, excuse me, sir.
And that didn't stop it.
CCTV operatives said, we get a sex show every night.
We get a male-on-male sex show every night in the way of us.
So when we got to enforcement, The day of enforcement, high up the chain, and the police said, we're cancelling it all.
We haven't got the guts to do this.
We're going to get criticized for being anti-LBGTQ. And it got stopped.
And that was the end of that.
So we just allowed them to carry on.
Breaking the law, upsetting decent people who want to use the footpath, and abusing people on canal boats who are driving through, seeing open sex shows.
And we allowed it to carry on.
Because we're afraid of what the media will say.
Yeah.
Omar, you're exactly right and that's a great example why.
It's like, no, you get the same standard as the rest of us and I don't care how bigoted you think.
And 99% of the gay men I spoke to on the consultation of that said, it's disgusting down there.
That needs to stop.
Yeah.
Well, it brings the entire community into disrepair.
You know, if it was my community, I'd be like, no.
It's a fringe element.
Yeah, exactly.
But then the police go, oh, it's represented, it's a lifestyle, the deal we got.
And it's like, it's illegal.
All the gays are like that, you know.
It's like, oh, come on.
Again, if I were one of them, I'd hate it.
But anyway, I think we're out of time there, folks.
So, thank you so much for joining us.
Nick, thanks for joining me.
Where can people find you?
I'm quite active now on YouTube, so find me on YouTube at Nick Buckley MBE. I've started a podcast, so on all the usual sites, so find me on there called Nick Talks.
And just, yep, find me everywhere.
I'm always talking.
Great, okay.
And if you want more from us, we'll be back on Monday with coverage of The Queen's Funeral and, of course, at 3.30 on lotuses.com, the book club of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution by Louise Perry, which should be very interesting.