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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #451

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	Music Hello and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eater's episode 452.
	I'm your host Harry, joined by our special guest Nick Dixon.
	Hello.
	Hello, and today we're going to be talking about the truth about 42% and transgender scientific studies.
	We're also going to be talking about how everybody wants to celebrate the women's football, at least that's as far as I can tell so far.
	And the San Francisco Monkey Pox epidemic and emergency.
	Before we get into any of that though, just need to make an announcement that we will have a premium live hangout later on today.
	It's going to be a book club talking about Fyodor Dostoyevsky's notes from the underground, which is going to be you and Connor, isn't it?
	It's going to be lit, bro.
	It's going to go off.
	In the words of Dostoyevsky himself, it'll be lit, bro.
	That was one of my favourite passages.
	Anyway, without any further ado, let's get into the news.
	So, this is one that I thought would be quite interesting, because for those paying attention, a few weeks ago you might have noticed that Josh and I got into a little bit of a spat on Twitter.
	With a bunch of trans activists, by which I mean belligerent teenagers, but one of the favourite tactics of leftist trans activists is to just send random studies at you to let everybody know that they have the science on their side, and they're much smarter than you could ever be because science agrees with me, bro, therefore you wrong.
	So I thought it would be interesting to maybe take a look at an article that I found recently that was talking about the actual methodology.
	You're on your phone there, Nick?
	I'm not.
	I was actually going to message John a technical thing really subtly, but you just brought it up.
	Just the thought, oh, it might have been boring you a little bit.
	I forgot what northern people were like, but I'm feeling like I'm back in the north.
	There you go, just start bullying you, that's fine.
	But yeah, so I found an article recently talking about the actual methodology and the effectiveness of these trans studies, and thought it would be interesting to read through and perhaps give you a little bit of ammunition to fire back at these activists when they start to do these sorts of things to you, because honestly, when you start to examine the studies, they're rubbish.
	And they don't actually say what the so-called experts say they do.
	But before we go into that, I'll just draw your attention to a premium video that you should check out on the website if you're a gold or silver or even bronze tier member.
	You can see me and Carl talking about Matt Walsh's What is a Woman?
	It was just a little review that we did for the premium content subscribers a few months ago, which I found really interesting.
	And of course, Matt Walsh has done a fantastic job in examining in this film a lot of the ideology that underpins a lot of this stuff.
	And, relevantly, he even speaks to a number of people who claim to be scientists, who claim to have the best interests of young children in mind when they're saying that we need to affirm their gender dysphoria.
	And it shows them to be a load of charlatans and frauds, as you would expect.
	Anyway, let's get into the article.
	So this is from a website called Reality's Last Stand.
	It looks like some kind of sub-stack article and it's by a man called Leo Sapir.
	I saw this on Twitter originally and checked out the article and thought it was very, very good and thought we could all learn something a bit from this.
	So they say, Because as we know, as you probably know from being able to see all this that's going on, what happens is you say, maybe getting a child to chop their genitals off isn't the best thing to help with their mental health, and they say, well, if you don't do that, they'll kill themselves anyway.
	Have you experienced seeing anything like that?
	Yes, I have heard that argument.
	And can I just say, it's great you've brought a comedian on to talk about this topic.
	It's right in my hit zone.
	Yeah, I've had that argument thrown at me live on GB News, and it's always seemed to me nonsense.
	It's far more likely that you have this problem, right?
	And so your life's going to be a bit hard, and therefore you're perhaps more likely to have mental health problems.
	But they always claim it's the other way around, that society's lack of accepting you is what gives you the mental health problems.
	It always seems very ropey to me.
	Yeah, they try and flip the argument, because one of the interesting things from people who have looked into this is they find that transgender, if you can claim that they are actually transgender, youths often suffer from about at least four to five other mental health conditions, as well as whatever gender dysphoria, and they would try and make it seem that the other mental health conditions are the symptom of the gender dysphoria, whereas Actually, it's more than likely the other way around.
	I'm feeling depressed.
	Go speak to my school counsellor, my woke school counsellor.
	School counsellor tells me, oh, have you considered you might be the wrong gender?
	Right, whereas many of them also, like you said, they have other mental diseases like liberalism.
	That's a big one, isn't it?
	That's a terrible one, yes, absolutely.
	Big epidemic of that over in California right now.
	I'll carry on with the article.
	As I discussed below, the claim is based on a handful of small and deeply flawed studies that at most find loose correlations between affirming interventions and improved mental health.
	Some find no reduction of suicide at all, and a new study claims to find that puberty blockers actually increase the risk of suicide.
	They carry on.
	Part of the problem is the vagueness.
	because this is what they refer to when they're saying that they're more likely to commit suicide.
	They refer to suicidality in the actual studies, which is different from attempted suicide or anything else like that.
	Basically just means I've been thinking about it.
	Which is all of us, really, isn't it?
	Yeah, constantly, nowadays, especially.
	And I think, I wake up in the morning, I think, bloody hell, I'm on the podcast with Nick Dixon today.
	Right, and that would count in this study.
	Exactly, it absolutely would.
	There's a difference between thinking about suicide, attempting it, and doing it, even when the first two categories, shades of grey, prevail.
	Suicidal attempt, for instance, can mean climbing to the roof of a building without actually stepping onto the ledge.
	And gender activists commonly argue that roughly 4 in 10 transgender identify youths, Which they say is T.I.Y. Attempt suicide when not socially and medically affirmed.
	Does the research bear this out?
	And the simple answer is no.
	And here I just wanted to take a quick side note onto something else talking about everybody else on our side tends to know the 42% statistic which is...
	Often used mockingly to say that those who are transgender have a 42% rate of suicide, and I just wanted to take a look at what that was about as well and see where it was coming about.
	And this is an article from 2018 from the Human Rights Committee, which I think is a leftist organisation who use human rights as a broad term to basically just mean trans rights.
	That's all they want.
	They just want trans rights, and we're going to manipulate whatever data we have to be able to fit our narrative.
	Hang on, are you saying there's an organisation that has a certain name but really is just a kind of front for woke ideology?
	Because I've never heard of anything like that.
	Neither have I. This is the first time I've ever encountered anything like this.
	I'm shocked.
	I'm shocked and appalled.
	I'm shaking and crying right now.
	Literally.
	They say, That means female to male, who would have thought that teenage girls, biological girls, would be the most at risk of attempted suicide, and non-binary youth, also meaning teenage girls.
	The findings attempt to emphasize the urgency of building welcoming and safe communities for LGBTQ young people, particularly for transgender youth.
	More than half of transgender male teams who participated in the survey reported attempted suicide in their lifetime, with 29.9% of transgender female teens saying they attempted suicide.
	Among non-binary youth, 41.8% of respondents said they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives.
	So if we go to the next one, I've actually got the study up from here, so you can actually read through this if you're a bit more interested.
	If you go to the website, you can check out the links below the video.
	So you can check that out if you're interested, because it does go into that.
	And I think that this is, as far as I can tell, this is where the whole 42% thing comes from.
	So once again, it's not even talking necessarily about suicide rates, because you could use that if you were a leftist as an alarmist way to try and tell everybody, oh, we need to affirm them.
	We can't say, no, you're not a boy, you're actually still a girl, now get on with your life like everybody else does.
	No, we need to transgender them, or else they'll kill themselves.
	That's where this is coming from, and that is coming purely from Qualitative data, just how do you feel about yourself?
	Have you ever tried it?
	And no inquiry any further as far as I can tell.
	Yeah, also non-binary youth I'm sceptical of since non-binary isn't a thing.
	That is also true.
	You know, some Leo claims it is, but I'm sceptical.
	And on that wider point, yeah, in general, I mean, we're both from the North.
	The whole attitude is just get on with it.
	We've all had problems, but ultimately I think that probably is better.
	You know what I mean?
	The old-fashioned way that was now so criticised.
	Probably it's better because if you indulge these things, they do tend to get worse.
	As we're seeing.
	Exactly.
	As we're seeing, yeah.
	For me, it's all just about being able to regulate your emotions and being able to recognize that no matter what's going on in your own personal life, the rest of the world is still moving forwards.
	So it's probably better for you.
	Yeah, because, you know, they didn't indulge things like depression or anything when I was growing up.
	Can I just also say, my cousin did kill himself at age 17, so he actually was at teen suicide.
	So if I do make light of it, I do take it very seriously, but I, you know, I make jokes from a comedian.
	Well, I'm sorry to hear that, huh?
	No, no, I just threw it in there because people might think, oh, Nick, just making jokes about suicide, which I'm not.
	It is very serious, but we're just talking about, we're a bit skeptical about the study.
	As you should be, because science is being used as this grand religious figure to say, trust the science no matter what the circumstances are, when the whole point of science, if you look at people like Karl Popper, is that you're supposed to be able to try and refute the findings of the study.
	That's how you know that something is pretty concretely known, as if you cannot refute it.
	Whereas this sort of stuff...
	I don't know.
	Teenagers telling me that they thought about committing suicide.
	Okay, I can believe that.
	But then the reasons that they may give me for potentially...
	I don't know about that because teenagers are very confused.
	It's a very confusing time of their lives.
	they don't necessarily know exactly why it is they feel bad about themselves beyond the typical thing of like, oh, these people don't like me.
	But what's deeper than that?
	It's a horrible time for anyone.
	You have loads of problems.
	You feel bad.
	You don't know anything about the world.
	It's a tough time for anyone.
	You've just got to try and get through that time.
	But the last thing you want to do is start changing your gender or whatever.
	Especially young girls.
	Until you're 18, especially.
	Especially young girls going through puberty when all of a sudden they're getting a lot of attention from men that they weren't getting before.
	Sadly, probably a lot of attention from pervy older men as well.
	And you think to yourself, I want to escape this, how do I escape this?
	I know, I just cut my genitals off and become a boy.
	That's a way to get people to stop paying attention to me.
	Which is true, sadly.
	Well, it's one method, but it's not the ideal one.
	It's not the first one you should go to.
	No, it isn't.
	It's an overkill, some would say.
	I would certainly agree there, but carrying on back to the original article talking about this, they carry on and say, in response to the study that I was looking at there, surveys of trans-identified-use suicidality rely on self-report and do very little to vet respondents when they say that they attempted suicide.
	Secondly, the studies purporting to show that the TIY are at elevated risk of suicide tend to compare suicide rates in TIY with rates in non-trans identified youth, which is a deeply misleading comparison.
	This is because transgender identified youth, especially among the new clinical cohort of rapid onset gender dysphoria, which is something that is not allowed to be discussed in the mainstream, of course, because the person who originally discovered that Was, I think, cancelled out of her scientific positions and professional positions that she was in because it makes it sound really bad if it just sounds like something that teenagers are doing because of typical teenage problems.
	But anyway...
	You're not allowed to say it's a phase anymore.
	Exactly.
	No, you're not.
	But rapid onset gender dysphoria is sadly quite close to saying it's a phase.
	Yeah, that's the medical way of saying it.
	Basically, yes.
	And the thing is as well, I know people related to me through family who are...
	Who consider themselves transgender.
	And even they have admitted to me and other family members, even though they still consider themselves that way, they're still like, ah, well, yeah, literally everybody else I went to high school with who said that they were transgender has come back and said, nah, actually, I'm not.
	It turns out my parents were right.
	It was just a phase.
	Which just reminds me of all the emos that were around 10 years ago when I was in high school.
	Yeah, good point.
	And also, it's because it's in the media.
	It is a fad.
	It's not a fad for everyone, but for many people it seems to be a fad.
	And it went up massively during lockdown.
	And a lot of people think that's because kids were consuming a lot more media and not at school.
	The numbers went up massively of people requesting surgery and all that.
	So, yes, to what degree is it actually just a fad in the culture?
	Sadly, that's what it seems to be.
	There's the social contagion aspect of it.
	But these rapid-onset gender dysphoria teenagers exhibit extraordinarily high rates of mental health problems, quite apart from their gender-related distress, and to the extent that proponents of the gender-affirming approach recognize these comorbidities, the other mental health problems, they regard them as the product of social hostility and lack of acceptance.
	Though oddly, the article says, they also claim that rapidly rising rates of transgender identification are the result of a society increasingly accepting of transgender identity, which is a good thing to point out because they're trying to have it both ways.
	Both we're getting more transgender youths now because society is more accepting of them, and also at the same time they're so depressed because society is so unaccepting of them.
	You can't have it both ways, you can't have your cake and eat it at the same time.
	Which one is it?
	They would not like to say which, because otherwise it might show their true intentions or just the inherent absurdity of their ideology.
	Yet no evidence supports this hypothesis and mounting evidence vitiates it.
	ROGD teens are known to have very high rates of anxiety, depression, history of sexual trauma, because of course the teenagers that this is happening to, oftentimes they are, if not the victims purely of this ideology, which if they get to the point where they're chopping off the genitals, they are absolutely victims of the ideology.
	but also potentially victims of sexual trauma as this is pointing out, which is just sad to hear.
	Anorexia and eating orders, all of which typically precede their gender-related distress.
	And as we've learned from detransitioners, many continue to experience these problems long after they've gone under the knife.
	That's the thing, man.
	I mean, the people who push these puberty blockers, to me, in many ways they're worse than pedos.
	Because, let's be really realistic, if you, as horrific as assaulting someone, a child is, you can still potentially recover from it psychologically with a lot of work.
	Whereas, you can never recover from this stuff.
	Yeah, I suppose the long-lasting effects, obviously you're going to have psychological trauma if you've been molested, but then you will still have the full function of your body, whereas this, you're going to have psychological and physical trauma to go along with it, so I get what you mean there.
	Yeah, according to the review of UK's Gender Identity Development Service, roughly one out of three girls seeking gender transition has autism, a significant finding considering that being in the wrong body might provide these teenagers with a convenient explanation for their social isolation.
	Regardless, each of these mental health conditions is a known predicator of suicidal behaviour.
	And then they also want to talk about the puberty blockers and other affirming treatments that they talk about.
	So they say the gold standard for finding a causal relationship between affirming medicine and suicide would be a randomized controlled trial.
	To date, no randomized controlled trial has ever been conducted to study the effects of puberty blockers.
	And I say absolutely rightfully so, because I don't think that it would be ethical for scientists to just be handing this stuff out to children like Candy's.
	Even in the name of science, but that seems to be sadly what we're doing anyway.
	We're doing an unofficial controlled trial on this, because the kids who are going into clinics like Tavistock, which, as far as I'm aware from what Josh covered the other day, is happily closing down, but this is the random controlled trial.
	In 10 to 15 years, possibly even sooner than that, we will see the mass effects of this, and we'll have all of the data you need to be able to say whether this was a good idea or not, although you should have been able to know before you got the data anyway.
	But yes, for this reason the FDA in America has never approved the use of Lupron, which is the primary puberty blocker, or other puberty suppressants for gender dysphoria, claims about the reversibility of puberty blockers which are essential to gender-affirming advocates, ethical case for allowing children to use them rely entirely on referencing the drug's original ethical case for allowing children to use them rely entirely on referencing the drug's original purpose,
	For those who don't know, precocious puberty is if, say, you've got a little girl, and she's like 6 or 7, and starts developing the sorts of things you would get in puberty, which is obviously too young.
	So there are some legitimate uses for these drugs, but that's not what these ones are being employed for.
	As for the safety, the risks of puberty blockers are not fully known, but are thought to include cognitive impairment and bone malformation.
	It's becoming increasingly clear that another major risk is eye...
	Let me try and pronounce this for everyone.
	Iatrogenesis.
	Iatrogenesis.
	Nailed it.
	There we go.
	Got it.
	Meaning that the use of puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria virtually guarantees the persistence of the condition and continuation of the patient to more extreme and risky types of intervention.
	And I've commented on this as well before.
	And then the article carries on.
	There's quite a lot more to it, so if you want to check that out.
	But one of the other things I wanted to point out, of all people...
	Of all people, I'm not too familiar with him, but I am aware that he used to, and still seems to be, very much on the leftist SJW side during the old Gamergate days and other such things.
	But of all people, Jesse Singal, or Singal, however you pronounce his name, has a very good substack article going through the methodology of a lot of these pro-transgender affirming studies and refuting them on purely scientific merits for the methodology has a very good substack article going through the methodology of a lot of these pro-transgender
	And he points towards, in this article of all ones, something referred to as the Dutch study, which is supposedly the gold standard for being able to show that transgender treatment has only positive effects on people who go through the treatment.
	They say these people were miserable and depressed beforehand.
	They go through the treatment.
	There you can see from our studies and our surveys and our reports that they all say that they have much better quality of life since then.
	But one of the interesting things is the study seems to be complete bunk, and I'll just go through the bit that Jesse talks about here to support that statement.
	So one of the genuinely impressive seeming findings is that the Dutch subject's high baseline gender dysphoria was alleviated at follow-up, but there is a catch there too.
	According to Lee Vine and his co-authors, the people who did the study, it involves the measure the researchers use, the Uttricht gender dysphoria scale.
	This 12-item scale, designed by the Dutch to assess the severity of gender dysphoria and to identify candidates for hormones and surgeries, consists of male and female versions.
	At baseline and after puberty suppression, biological females were given the female scale, while males were given the male scale.
	However, post-surgery...
	The scales were flipped.
	Biological females were assessed using the male scale, while biological males were assessed on the female scale.
	We maintain that this handling of the scales may have at best obscured and at worst severely compromised the ability to meaningfully track how gender dysphoria was affected throughout the treatment.
	So after the trans boys went on blockers, took testosterone, and had double mastectomies, they were given an instrument with prompts like, my life would be meaningless if I had to live as a boy.
	I hate myself because I'm a boy, and it would be better to not live than to live as a boy.
	It would be shocking if someone who put this much effort into transitioning to a boy-slash-man answered these questions in the affirmative.
	This seriously calls into question one of the best results that the Dutch team got.
	So once again, when you get people sending you these studies, maybe take a look in them just very briefly.
	It honestly won't take very long to see where all of the errors are, because as you can tell just from that run-through there, this particular study, despite being the gold standard, has some major issues with it, just in being able to say, well obviously this is massively biased, the results that you get.
	So, if you get those sorts of people sending them through, Just take a quick look and say the obvious thing, which is this study does not say what you say it does, and also just remember that things like the Tavistock Clinic going down, as far as I know, are only a good thing, because all of this is a gigantic societal experiment which will only have negative consequences.
	There we go.
	Yeah, I was going to say, it's great that the Tavistock's closed down.
	My only concern is that it's switching to local clinics, so I want to...
	I have heard that as well, so I am a little bit concerned.
	I also read an article, but Josh seemed to refute this, so I need to look into the information that Josh had as well, which was, I saw an article talking about how they only closed it because they said the extended long periods of waiting time was damaging to the youth, rather than any of the actual procedures that they were going through, so...
	I'm a bit worried, especially when you'd think that extended waiting periods for something as serious as, am I going to chop my breasts off, would be good, because they give you a little time to think about it.
	I'm hoping that was just the Tavistock saving face, because people like Kemi Badnock do seem to have done a lot of work on getting it closed, so let's take it as a white pill.
	Yes, fingers crossed, let's keep a hold of that white pill.
	Guzzle them down while we can.
	So, do you want me to move on to my segment?
	Yeah, we can move on to your segment, absolutely.
	In a seamless transition.
	Alright, so, I've called my segment, I support the current women, because...
	Are you a biologist?
	Do you know what those are?
	Oh, that's a good point.
	How can I even define it?
	How could anybody define that if they're not already a woman?
	And if you're not a woman, you can't do it.
	And seeing as you can't identify what a woman is, then nobody could ever determine what a woman is.
	I meant the feeling, Harry.
	I have a good feeling today that I understand what a woman is.
	I did the washing up last night and I felt quite emasculated while I was doing it.
	What are you saying?
	Does that make me a woman now?
	Are you saying that women wash up?
	I say they should.
	They never have.
	They should.
	No woman has ever washed up.
	They should, except my woman's rubbish at the washing up.
	You can tell it's two northerners on the podcast today.
	Going back to the 50s, lads.
	Someone said to me on GB News the other day, he goes, yeah, okay, Nick, going back to the 1980s.
	I went, oh, I was aiming for the 50s.
	We're not quite based enough, are we?
	Exactly.
	I want to go even further back.
	But you'll probably remember from a couple of weeks ago, so the Lionesses came out, then they won, and it's amazing, but it wasn't quite amazing two weeks ago, because the BBC, their initial response was that they were too white, and I think Callum played this.
	Let's just have a recap on it.
	An historic eight-goal victory for England last night as the Lionesses secured their place in the quarterfinals.
	But all starting 11 players and the five substitutes that came onto the pitch were all white.
	And that does point towards a lack of diversity in the women's game.
	And it's something that Alex Scott has been invested in.
	I mean, I feel like this isn't representing our beautiful country as it is right now.
	I know.
	If it's not 100% diverse, if it wasn't a number of women just running out on the pitch in full hijabs, then what's even the point?
	I know.
	So the BBC's immediate response was to be racist against white people, because that's what they love.
	That's the first response for everything.
	Exactly.
	Why not?
	So we immediately saw, OK, it looks like the football is now going to be the new site of the culture war.
	And that's really what's happened.
	But that one didn't go too well, by the way.
	The BBC received more than 200 complaints for that about racism, which was...
	Correct.
	The Telegraph also covered it.
	And it was actually 222 complaints, I think, in total.
	And then the presenter had an explanation about it on Twitter.
	Can we look at that one, John?
	Apparently not.
	No, that's the Telegraph one.
	Yeah, that's just BBC hit with racism complaints.
	So it's good that people complain about it.
	And then the presenter said, I'm glad this conversation is happening.
	Football is a game for all.
	It's never been about criticising this England team.
	It's about looking to the future and pathways so girls can all have the same opportunities to be a lioness.
	Everyone should be a lioness now.
	So she sort of tried to get out of it with that, but basically she was being racist.
	So that was the initial response.
	But then...
	It became the current thing.
	And suddenly you couldn't even criticise it.
	And even the BBC looked churlish because it was the current thing and everyone had to support it.
	And we saw in the Telegraph, Jane Chilling, the Lionesses aren't the same as male footballers.
	They are far better.
	And this is just people revelling and finally, finally people care about women's football.
	We need to milk this for all it's worth.
	Yeah, and that just seems like a sort of cheap clickbait headline.
	But to be very fair to her, I read the article and it's much, much worse than the actual headline.
	And it's so bad I'm not going to go through it because it's actually meaningless.
	There is nothing of substance in it.
	She admits, well, I have to admit that I lack interest in the sport.
	End of article, really, because you just say you don't know what you're talking about.
	I mean, I don't really care about football.
	You don't see me writing articles for newspapers about it.
	Why I don't care about football by Harry?
	It's like, cheers, mate.
	Yeah, so immediately it became the current thing.
	And even Google could celebrate the flag.
	And until the other day, if you Google lionesses, you've got an amazing animation with the St.
	George's cross coming up.
	Very base.
	Google going full deus volt mode.
	It was like...
	Because the lionesses are so great that they push Google to the far right.
	That's what happened, Harry.
	Yeah.
	I mean, thinking about it, last year we got the whole, like, diversity is our strength.
	If England wins the game, diversity will have won it for us.
	Then, of course, the diversity lost us the game, meaning diverse.
	So if these guys win, what does that say?
	A completely undiverse team wins.
	What does that say?
	What do we attribute that victory to, eh?
	It's a good point.
	It's a good point.
	There's a couple of variables.
	Either because they're white or because they're women.
	Let's not go into it.
	But it was just funny that even Google, because suddenly you allowed the flag again.
	It was not normally allowed the flag, but you could have allowed them...
	Well, it's a sign of fascist dictatorship, don't you know?
	I don't know if you can see it on there.
	It was a bit further down.
	But anyway, it was a St.
	George's Cross flag animation.
	Oh yeah, it's like a bunch of fireworks as well.
	It comes up and then goes, yeah, yeah.
	Because it's become the current thing, everyone has to now praise it.
	And even Gary Lineker was not reverent enough.
	He put this tweet out, the Lionesses have only gone and done it, and Kelly is England's heroine.
	Bra none.
	So this was a pun.
	Is she the one who took her top off in that picture?
	So he's going for a pun there.
	Gary's going for a pun.
	And to be fair, let's break it down.
	Bra none.
	It's not a bad...
	Let's explain.
	Let's explain the jokes.
	That always works.
	Let's explain the jokes because people didn't get it and it got him cancelled.
	So, sort of cancelled.
	You can't really cancelled Gary Linker.
	Too big to fail.
	But the Barnon, I mean, it's not a bad pun on the phrase Barnon, right?
	The problem is he shoehorned in the phrase Barnon.
	It doesn't really need to be there.
	If someone had said, a headliner that said Barnon and then he went Barnon, that would be clever.
	But he shoehorned in that so he can subvert it.
	He obviously was sat...
	Smoking a pipe, smoking something at home, I'm sure.
	And this popped into his head, and I thought, right, how can I absolutely grind this?
	How can I find a statement that this will fit in?
	To be fair, he's not a professional comedian, but he was a good goalscorer, and now he's become a sort of woke idiot online.
	So my only criticism of it is aesthetic, but he got, of course, destroyed for this, and he had to delete it, and there's a piece in the Daily Mail on this where he says that he's had to delete it, and he's John, do you mind moving along?
	Thank you.
	There we go.
	I can't really see the problem with the joke, but then again, I'm not a total idiot.
	I don't get where casual sexism comes into it.
	Well, he was condemned by a literal Karen, if we can see that one.
	Gary Lineker, this is from Karen Ingala-Smith.
	Gary Lineker, please apologise for and condemn the sexist responses to your now-deleted, badly-judged tweet.
	He's even got to condemn the responses.
	Everyone who's responded on Twitter, there's thousands of people, condemn them.
	I can't believe that I'm being made to feel like I need to stick up for Gary Lineker.
	I know.
	I feel dirty.
	I'm back to that corner.
	He says, it was just a play on words, given the celebration.
	I do rubbish like that constantly on here, and I can confirm that is true.
	I mean, he only ever spouts rubbish on Twitter anyway, so...
	I know, but now he's complaining about context.
	So, Paul Joseph Watson was having a bit of schadenfreude at Gary Lineker, hosted with his own petard.
	Gary Lineker currently getting cancelled by the same social media mob outrage mindset he helped create.
	Laughing face.
	And then he said, for daring to slightly undermine the latest current thing craze, women's football, with a not particularly funny joke, but it was word witty, but we've already...
	Well, we've already deconstructed the joke and said why it wasn't that good, but Nick Buckley was a bit more generous.
	He's gone with, you can never be woke enough.
	It's great until you cross the invisible line, then they come for you.
	Gary is an arse, but should be free to tweet any joke he wants.
	Correct, really?
	I mean, this is correct, but this is...
	I've got a video coming out relatively soon on this.
	Whenever, even for these minor infractions, what this is is basically just a signal...
	Sent out to the rest of the leftist verse to show everybody where the new line is that you're not allowed to cross.
	It's basically just rallying the troops for the next cause.
	And they presumably need to update that roughly every hour because it is so aggressively changing.
	I mean, this is why they're constantly cancelling each other, so...
	Yeah.
	And the trans rights activists suddenly got on board.
	Even they were celebrating.
	Even people like Tom Howard, who is a colleague of my esteemed colleague Tom Howard, so I can't criticize him too much.
	Your famous trans activist colleague Tom Howard.
	He's a great man.
	Supporter of trans children in Tavistock.
	Yes, he has always supported trans people's rights to be in women's sports, but suddenly he was on board with this effortlessly accessorised ensemble here.
	He's got the face paint on the one cheek, he's got the scarf.
	He probably wants to watch out for monkeypox as well.
	I was going to say, but I'm glad you said it and not me because I want to keep my job at GB. He would have no problem effortlessly contracting monkeypox death.
	It's a cover.
	He's a good looking guy.
	If you go up to just see what his tweet was, he just put, it was the classic two world wars and one world cut, but it added the one UEFA women's Euro 2022 final.
	You know that meme of the guy at the bottom of the podium, like, checking his medals real, spraying all of the champagne all over himself?
	That's what that feels like.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And Julia Hartley Brewer was not having it.
	You don't support women's sport, Tom.
	You'd be perfectly happy if the England women's team was made up entirely of 11 trans players who are biological men.
	That's the policy you support.
	You can't support women's sport if you believe men can play women's sport.
	Very good point.
	She said support too many times for me, but...
	That got 6,000 something likes.
	Tom's tweet was heavily ratioed.
	Tom came in with the reply.
	He said, when have I ever said men should be able to compete in women's sport?
	And like crazy face.
	And it's like, well, you have Tom, but in his world he hasn't because in his world...
	Trans women are women.
	Exactly.
	And someone just came back, kept the receipt on the 6th of April, Tom.
	This is when he said it.
	And they quoted Tom's tweet, and he says, I agree, biological men should be biased from women's sports.
	Some trans women, on the other hand, those who have sufficiently changed their biology, should be assessed on a case-by-case basis.
	That's individualism.
	That's compassion.
	That's pragmatism.
	That's the way forward.
	That's moronic, I would add.
	I can't add that because I might get it.
	You can't sufficiently change your biology.
	If there's a trans woman who is lithe and small enough to not absolutely beast all of the biological women, they were already a little manlet and deserve to be treated as such.
	Well, yes.
	They're going to retain the benefits of testosterone and so on.
	But if you go down...
	What's the next one we've got?
	Oh, yeah.
	Tom had sort of...
	He was heavily relying on his semantics.
	He basically said, when I've ever said it, he replied to that saying, that doesn't say men should compete in women's sports.
	Quite the opposite.
	So he's relying heavily on his definition.
	And then Julia's replied again.
	Oh, go back a sec.
	Because Julia's replied again.
	Can we just go back?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes, Tom.
	That's absolutely what you're saying.
	There's no surgery.
	No drugs can turn a man into a woman or a woman into a man.
	Biological sex is immutable.
	You're not stupid.
	You know that, really.
	You just pretend you don't.
	And Tom's just gone, I'm not going to get into this if you keep saying trans women are men.
	It's inaccurate, rude, and uncalled for.
	Heavily ratioed tweet.
	LAUGHTER And a funny one he had, and this is pure just banter, he replied to one person saying, do you overanalyse every major chant?
	And the phrase, I know you're not that familiar with football, Harry, but no one's ever used the phrase major chant.
	That's not a phrase.
	You know, there's two mores in one more cup.
	That's a major chant inside.
	My favourite chants, let me give you a list of all of the major ones throughout history.
	These are the groundbreaking chants.
	These are the canon of chants.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Absolutely mad.
	But anyway, that was Tom's Day because it's suddenly the current thing and you want to get on board and everyone wants to celebrate it.
	This is the correct opinion.
	I thought that showed great integrity.
	I'm saying absolutely support women's sport.
	Shouldn't have trans, shouldn't have biological men in women's sport.
	Support your right side.
	Not going to watch because it's a bit rubbish.
	Once again, this is a spectacular way to finally get people interested in women's football for a week.
	That's what this seems like to me.
	UEFA have done an amazing marketing job on this whole thing.
	Oh yeah, it's brilliant.
	And everyone is using it to project their own views.
	So everyone's got their own take.
	So Julie Birchall, to her, it's a gender critical triumph.
	She says in the mail, what a moment for women.
	It's an age where our very existence is being denied.
	The Lioness's glorious show of bold femininity is truly iconic.
	and she goes on later in the piece she says in an age when women's existence is being denied and we're being robbed of our hard-won gains from toilets to trophies by angry trans activists at a time when our bodies are commodified and picked apart like never before thanks to social media these bold young women have clawed out new territory their spirit signifies new freedoms new potential for women everywhere maybe a bit overstating it but i see what she's dominant A bit overstating it.
	I think the spirit of this comment I do agree with for the most part.
	In an age where they are being denied their own existence, it's good that they're going out and winning things.
	Yeah, I would agree.
	I'm not so misanthropic that I couldn't agree with that.
	This next part I thought was a bit of a stretch from Julia.
	She said,"'I wonder how many tomboys will now be stopped"'from taking the journey to the surgeon's scalpel,"'searching for a way to excise their shameful femininity"'now that femininity has shown us such a bold new way of being.' I mean, I hope that's true.
	I think mainly Tavistock closing is more to do with that.
	I don't know if that's true.
	It could be true.
	It'd be great if it is.
	I'll also say, I don't think sport activity in general is a feminine method of expression.
	I think all sports, for the most part, I don't know if you've got, I don't know, Olympic washing or anything like that.
	Outrageous scenes.
	Most sport is very masculine, and I think these women, it's fantastic that they've done it, but they've succeeded in a masculine area.
	Yeah, normally I come on a podcast and I'm the most misogynist, but Harry's absolutely blowing me out of the water today.
	Have you been on with Carl yet?
	So...
	She also had a pop at the BBC though, which I liked.
	She said, the Lionesses should consider giving their future matches to a commercial station, then the poor noble BBC won't have the awful lack of diversity on their conscience.
	So I thought that was lols.
	But yes, of course, some people didn't like her piece and saw transphobic dog whistles.
	Someone said here, of course the Daily Mail sent us transphobic dog whistles on its front page story.
	Julie Birch will can't just enjoy the England win without spitting spiteful rhetoric towards trans people and others.
	So...
	And if they'd won, your side would have been spitting hateful rhetoric towards biological women, so...
	Yeah, women's football is currently a Rorschach test for your politics, so Julie Birchall sees gender-critical feminist triumph, the BBC it's racist, of, you know, to trans people the response is transphobic, and me, as a classical misogynist, just won't watch.
	And if you don't know what a classical misogynist is, we believe in the free market, but women shouldn't be allowed in it.
	It's a classical misogynist.
	It's a completely legitimate group.
	Classic, but pre-women's suffrage.
	That sounds beautiful to me.
	Property-owning men past a certain age.
	That's who gets to say.
	With property.
	Yeah.
	And obviously politicians are jumping on the bandwagon.
	Liz Truss is going to channel the spirit of the lionesses.
	If we can see the video where she said that out of the hustings the other day, the one before.
	There we go.
	I will channel the spirit and I was at Wembley last night watching the lionesses.
	I will channel the spirit of the lionesses who fought bravely against the odds and got things done and delivered a massive, massive victory.
	And that's what we can do.
	That's what we can do for the United Kingdom as we unlock our potential against the plastic patriot Keir Starmer.
	So I love the idea they got things done, which just happens to be Liz Truss's campaign slogan.
	Did they really get things done?
	I mean, they won a match.
	It makes it sound like they were productivity ninjas.
	They won a football match or a few football matches.
	It's just funny.
	And then Richie, of course, jumped on a bandwagon.
	Fairly generic tweet.
	They haven't just won the tournament.
	They've won the hearts of the whole country with one of his classic, slightly cringy pictures.
	This obviously staged photo, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sticking his finger up slightly aggressively.
	So...
	And of course, the equal pay people came out as well, such as this lady who's a Cambridge barrister and a feminist barrister or whatever that is.
	She said, I'm absolutely loving women's football, but equality means they must be paid the same as men.
	Massive pay gap in football, less than 50k for women and millions for men.
	Hmm, could be some reasons for that we'll look at in a minute.
	But the NHS nurses said the same thing.
	They said...
	Now pay women the same as men and we can really celebrate.
	And I thought, men generate so much more money in the man's game, obviously.
	The only way you could possibly think that is if you're a socialist.
	But luckily, I went to their page and they say a group of socialist nurses working in the NHS. So they are literally socialists.
	Oh yes, at socialist NHS. Yeah, I realise.
	Okay, fair play.
	So I'm going to trust this person's opinion.
	Maybe not.
	But at least they've come out and said it, because the only way you can believe women should get paid the same as men is if you're a total commie.
	That's the only possibility.
	Because if you look at this article, men, just one small example, in the 2019 World Cup, oh no, sorry, 2018, men, there were three times more viewers for the men, and the men made 45 times more revenue.
	That's just one example.
	The Premier League made $10 billion from TV alone last year.
	A question, how many women do you see wandering about wearing football shirts with female football players' names on them?
	Good point.
	I think it's very new, to be fair, but it's absurd to say they should be paid the same.
	The Mirror has...
	Premier League made £10 million from TV. Do we have that one?
	Doesn't particularly matter.
	Yeah, there you go.
	And women's clubs, in fact, operate at a loss, it turns out, as well.
	Do we have that piece?
	It...
	There you go.
	FIFA survey reveals 70% of women's soccer clubs operate at a loss.
	So not much money in the women's game.
	And that's another critique of people who are getting really into the Lionesses.
	It's like, well, where were you when were you supporting the club teams?
	Because no one actually goes to watch women's club football.
	So actually, you should support it by going to that.
	Anyway, I know I'm supposed to like the women's game, and I'm sure it's great and amazing.
	I summed up my feelings here in this tweet.
	I said, this new obsession with women's football makes me sympathize with people who don't like normal football.
	I get it now, guys.
	And, of course, the phrase normal football was incendiary, frankly, wasn't it?
	Oh, dear.
	It was...
	Oh, dear.
	I feel much like Paul Joseph Watson here when he says me watching women's football in the re-education camp.
	And for the listener, he's got the classic clockwork orange eyes pressed open thing.
	So the only other thing I'd say is I was in the pub the other night after our five-a-side football game, or men's, sorry, I got into the pub and everyone clapped the women's game politely at the end because it was North London.
	And I thought, okay.
	And then I made a little joke about it to the football lads.
	And all my jokes were slaying.
	Because a table of normies is like an easy crowd for me.
	It was absolutely slaying.
	But then I made a joke about the women's football.
	Silence.
	And I made a joke about the keepers being rubbish.
	And one of them said to me, oh Nick, it's moved on so much from there.
	And I suddenly realised it was the current thing.
	I'm not allowed to criticise it.
	And I was like, oh, that's why I started thinking of this section.
	But I ask, are they keep us really that good, Harry?
	Because to turn this show into match of the day...
	I mean, you show me.
	You show me.
	Alright, go on.
	Let's have a quick look at this video from the semi-final.
	I mean, very clever backheel.
	It's a highly celebrated goal, but let's look at it again.
	Keeper's got to do better.
	Let's get that in slow motion here, John.
	Sorry to go Roy Keane on it, but the keeper's got to do better.
	Look, there's a defender in the way.
	Straight through the keeper.
	The reaction time there was abysmal.
	It's shocking.
	It's shocking, keeping.
	Great goal.
	But at the end of the day...
	Yeah, at the end of the day, fair play to her.
	The only thing I could, but the keeping is pretty bad.
	The only thing I could think of similar in the men's game, I had to go all the way back to 1974.
	And this is a pure bit of fun just for the end of the podcast.
	Dennis Law's goal against Man United.
	He was a famous Man United striker, one of the greatest of all time.
	But then he moved to Man City at the end of his career and he accidentally relegated Man United by scoring this goal.
	It turned out later they would have been relegated anyway, but they needed to win this match.
	It was a draw.
	Then he scores right at the end and he deliberately tried to miss.
	And I thought we'd look at it because it's a similar goal.
	...to Old Trafford at the end of the season to confirm United's relegation.
	Lee pulled across for Law!
	Dennis has done it!
	And no elation there at all from Dennis Law.
	I don't know.
	I love that bit.
	No elation there at all.
	He was absolutely gutted to put them down, or what he thought at the time was putting them down into the lower league.
	And if you see the rest of the clip, he says, he was like, I was gutted, I was happy with the draw, so I just backheeled it to try and miss, and it went in.
	So that's why he was so sad.
	Yeah, yeah, because he relegated his favourite team.
	But if you look at it compared to the women's one, he's right in front of the keeper.
	There's no defender in the way.
	It's still a much better goal, even in 1974.
	That's all I'm saying.
	And it was accidental.
	Exactly.
	To be fair, the women just could have been accidental as well.
	It could have, but just to reiterate, I support the current women.
	That's my bit.
	LAUGHTER And on that stirring message, let's move on, shall we?
	So, let's talk about Monkeypox and San Francisco.
	What do the two of them have to do with one another, and why is it that San Francisco has declared a state of emergency over Monkeypox?
	Well, if you know anything about Monkeypox, you will probably have a little bit of a guess as to what that is.
	Do you know anything about Monkeypox?
	I know enough.
	You know enough?
	I know enough to know I don't want it and how to potentially avoid it.
	You know, it doesn't actually seem that difficult to avoid getting, does it?
	Well, I've had to reduce a lot of my hobbies, Harry.
	A lot of your weekend orgies missed out on.
	I've had to tone it right down.
	Heartbreaking.
	Heartbreaking.
	So I'll just explain what monkeypox is.
	So the symptoms are monkeypox often begins as flu-like symptoms.
	It also appears as a distinctive rash or sores, or spots that can look like pimples or blisters, anywhere on the body, especially on the genital area, and that will be relevant in a moment.
	Spots can also be inside the rectum or butt, also relevant.
	On fingers or in the mouth of all eyes.
	Also relevant.
	Apologies to anyone having their lunch at the moment.
	No, you deserve it.
	You know what I'm like when I'm on the podcast.
	I torture everybody.
	Generally, the spots start as red and then become bumps, and when they're bumps, they become filled with pus, and then the pus bumps and breaks and cross over into a scab, and the scabs may be itchy.
	So not particularly nice.
	Doesn't seem particularly life-threatening.
	I think it is related to smallpox, and therefore...
	If you already have some pretty bad underlying health conditions, it can be potentially fatal, but it seems like we know enough about it to say that for the vast 99.9% of people, it's not going to be fatal.
	It will just be unpleasant.
	And how it spreads is Very important to the subjects that we're going to be getting onto.
	So, monkey's pox spreads through prolonged skin-to-skin contact.
	Contact includes sex, kissing, breathing at very close range, sharing bedding and clothing.
	And they make point on the San Francisco government website here, where I've got this information from, to say, if you have sex or close physical contact with many people, emphasis on many people...
	You have a higher chance of getting monkeypox.
	So we can tell by saying, emphasizing that many people there, that it might be targeting a particular community.
	Many people.
	And I'm sure many of them are fine people.
	And they say at the top of the page, Monkeypox local health emergency declared on July 28th, 2022, the San Francisco Public Health Director issued a local public health emergency for Monkeypox to harness resources, including efforts to obtain additional vaccine supply.
	This will allow them and other health providers to prepare for an increase in cases and direct resources to testing, treatment, vaccination, and community awareness.
	And why is it that they may need All of this preparedness?
	Well, it's because in San Francisco, Pride Month is not less a month and more a state of being that everyone is in constantly, 24-7, with all of the repercussions that may come with that.
	They've also had some issues with the monkeypox vaccine, which is...
	I think I pronounced that correct, vaccine, which is indicated for prevention of smallpox and monkeypox disease in adults.
	However, since no vaccine is 100% effective, they go on to say it's important for individuals to reduce their risk of potential exposures to monkeypox both before and after being vaccinated, which is going to be a fat chance as we go on.
	And they are having supply problems because it is very popular to try and get a hold of this monkeypox vaccine in San Francisco and other parts of California, even New York as well.
	At the moment, a supply dictates monkeypox vaccine is by appointment at clinics through the city, and as of 3rd of August, one of the vax clinics at 1001 Patero Building 30 is closed for walk-ins due to lack of supply, and it seems that this is something that might be affecting a few of the clinics around San Francisco. and it seems that this is something that might be
	So, with it being spread through skin-to-skin contact, and that's the way you transmit it, how is it spreading so fast, potentially, or creating so much worry as to beat out the supply of the vaccine?
	Because I think in San Francisco, I think there's 800 confirmed cases.
	Well, it's because it's horny gay guys who are getting it and refusing to stop having sex to avoid potentially getting it.
	So when you said that, a picture of Callum and Carl just popped up on.
	Is that coincidence?
	It may or may not be.
	Is there something I need to know?
	I'm kind of sad that you've chosen to use this image rather than the thumbnail, John, primarily because if I had to see the thumbnail, everybody else has to see it as well.
	Anyway, we did a video on this on my birthday of all days, so thanks for that, Carl and Callum.
	Good present right there, lads.
	But this is them talking about the monkeypox outbreak and some of the details around it, and in particular, looking at how it does seem to be pretty much entirely gay men who are getting monkeypox from the figures that we've been seeing, and also, one of the stories that went viral on Twitter from a man who then later protected all of the tweets on his Twitter account, explaining exactly how he got it.
	They read through it in this, but just as a pleasant reminder for everybody, I'll just go through the details, and I'm Sorry about this, Nick.
	If you start to go a little bit green, I'll get John to adjust the camera.
	I remember the thread well, don't worry.
	Oh yes, there we go.
	It's scarred on my memory.
	But for those of you who may not have seen it or may have just forgotten, here's a helpful reminder.
	So I finally got into the swing of things and attended a friend's birthday orgy.
	Great start.
	Is this the third now?
	Is this just you telling me something?
	We started the...
	You know, dealer's choice, really.
	Make up your own mind about that.
	I've been watching the news on Monkeypox, but the general feelings on it were, and still are, developing by the day.
	So I, nor anybody else, was especially worried.
	You know, I obviously casually just calmly go into many birthday orgies on the weekend.
	It's just what me and the lads do.
	So I attend the orgy.
	I mean, to be fair, have you seen women up north?
	I attend the orgy, have a great time, guzzled a metric F-ton of human piss.
	I'm sorry, what?
	You heard me.
	My problem there, just quickly, is when your metric is tons, you know what I mean?
	You don't typically measure liquid in tons, so this must have been quite a lot.
	An excessive amount.
	Yeah, I think I had sexual contract with around 15 men.
	You know, he's a bit unsure about that, you know.
	As you do, you're just not entirely sure.
	And it also does imply the possibility that he could have been more.
	It could have been any amount.
	I think he said 15 to 20 in another bit as well.
	Oh, did he?
	Yeah, he gives it range.
	Similar to the orgy on Saturday, because this is just a regular thing in some communities.
	Had a great time, met some great people, then stumbled my piss-drunk ass back home.
	What a wholesome story.
	My two cents...
	Of course, this man later turned out to have monkeypox.
	My two cents...
	It's reductive to tell gay men to not have sex.
	It didn't work in the early days of AIDS, and clearly it's not working now.
	But do your best to make educated choices.
	Check your county's case numbers frequently, and if you can, avoid groups and anon encounters.
	If you were making educated choices, you wouldn't be going to upwards of 15 men weekend orgies, I would say, or guzzling people's piss.
	Firstly, the word reductive is doing a lot of work there.
	It really is.
	I love the implication here.
	If it's like, if AIDS can't stop us, good luck with monkeypox.
	Reductive.
	But then the bit at the end, try not to have group or anonymous sex.
	That's decent advice at any time.
	Even if it's non-gay encounters, just like men and women or anybody.
	Women and women, just don't do that.
	Maybe know who the person is.
	Is that a reasonable baseline?
	Maybe we should have some standards for sex beyond I just want it right now.
	I know your name.
	Maybe not, even.
	Maybe not, because I think the implication, of course, is that the gays are going to form an ever-expanding orgy that will end up engulfing the world, although I do think that would be a good potential suggestion to block the southern border.
	Just a gigantic gay orgy.
	I hadn't thought of that.
	A big, beautiful orgy.
	It'll keep the Catholics away from Mexico, won't it?
	Great point.
	There you go, and it solves many problems.
	I mean, I only just found out the other day, and I don't know if you know about this, but I only just heard about the concept called cruising.
	You've only just heard about that?
	Harry, you've had a sheltered life north.
	Sadly, I mean, when I've been walking through parks and enjoying the beautiful Greenland we have up north sometimes, I've never stopped to think to myself, I wonder if there's gay guys screwing in bushes around here anywhere.
	I'm more certain you've been cruising.
	I mean, people have probably looked at you and They might have done, actually, yeah.
	But yeah, so for anybody who doesn't know what cruising is, you as a gay man go to a public park where you know other anonymous gay men, go around and you cruise out one another, and once you've determined that, yes, I am willing, you go into a bush and do the dirty deed.
	Someone once told me even a phone box.
	I can't say who that was.
	Was it Leo?
	It wasn't.
	We can rule him out.
	Was it Tom?
	I don't know Tom that well.
	There's many places.
	That's one of them.
	That's quite an old school one, isn't it?
	You don't have that anymore.
	Up north, all I see in the phone box is homeless crackheads smoking crack.
	At least that's in Manchester, anyway.
	Kind of the West.
	But yeah, so, it's very strange that people seem to be just approaching this from a, well, I might be putting myself in danger, but I'm going to do it anyway, especially given the past two years of being hysterically shrieked at to stay indoors or else you're killing people.
	It's very interesting to see those same people say, well, you know, just do what you want, who cares about personal responsibility?
	That bothers me a little bit because you can't imagine a lockdown suggested just for gay people.
	You know, people like Andrew Neil were saying, we need to punish the unvaccinated.
	Imagine all the same rhetoric, but just for gay people.
	Imagine the articles.
	Like, oh, we should have straight passports with QR codes.
	How well would that go down?
	It probably wouldn't.
	But, so just to confirm, I got this article from the Daily Signal, it's called Monkeypox Primarily Affects Gay Men, Why Are We Scared to Say It?
	And yes, among a lot of mainstream media outlets, it does seem to be breaking a little bit over the past few days, but mostly mainstream media outlets have been saying that it's something that anybody can catch.
	It's the sort of thing that you can go out just in the street and catch randomly, and then come home and give it to the rest of your family as well.
	And at that point, I question what you're doing with your family.
	You know, perhaps you're all a little bit too close.
	But it does seem to be primarily affecting gay men.
	As it says, Monkeypox has hit America particularly hard.
	Our nation has the most recorded cases on Earth, with nearly a third centralised in New York City.
	80% of those are the Liza Minnelli concert.
	No one knows why.
	Who...
	Who could ever guess?
	A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 98% of those affected around the world were gay or bisexual men who were having sex with other men.
	I mean, there you go.
	The World Health Organization chief, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said the stigma and discrimination can be as dangerous as any virus.
	Okay.
	And can fuel the outbreak.
	So if we tell gay people stop having sex, that'll just encourage them to go and have more sex.
	We're just going to create the problem.
	So the obvious solution is to just let them do what they want.
	I mean, I'm all for personal liberty, but I think that should come with a hefty dose of personal responsibility.
	And it seems that certain people are not taking that for themselves.
	As we've seen with the COVID-19 misinformation...
	This information can spread rapidly online.
	For men who have sex with men, this includes, for the moment, reducing your number of sexual partners, reconsidering considering sex with new partners, and exchanging contact details with any new partners to enable follow-up if needed.
	I love the implication of all of this, which is that all these gay men, and sadly it seems that in places like San Francisco and New York, it is the case, are just going out, having sex with randos, and not even exchanging numbers or names with them, so...
	Yeah, but we should say, just for a sort of health warning, the other way you can get it, apart from being gay, is being injected by Suge Knight.
	I just wanted to flag that.
	I'm so sorry.
	Only some people will get that.
	Yeah, well, but the fact they're going so lightly about it is they don't want to offend marginalised communities, because in the same way that you support the current women, this is...
	As always, the current thing, these are the protected class.
	You're not allowed to say anything disparaging about anybody within the alphabet mafia right now, because these marginalized people are, of course, the ones getting preferential treatment, which makes perfect sense that they can be both at the same time, I'm sure.
	And I went on Twitter and just typed in the search bar "monkeypox" to see what people were saying.
	So many people have no idea, they just think monkeypox is COVID 2.0.
	They think it is the sort of thing that you can just get if you just walk out onto the street and pass by people.
	Whereas they're completely fear-mongering, and instead of recognizing that it is one very specific demographic about this.
	Except for this, where the CDC confirmed the first US cases of monkeypox in children.
	And I thought, okay, maybe they'll have some exceptional circumstances for why these kids got monkeypox.
	Other than what I'm concerned it might have been, given the circumstances we've seen so far.
	No.
	No, it's exactly what I worried about.
	It says here, the US confirmed the first two cases of monkeypox in children.
	Why it matters, the CDC has said children, especially those under 8 years old, are among those at especially increased risk for severe monkeypox disease.
	So that's a bad sign in the first place.
	What she's saying as well, both of these children are traced back to individuals who come from the men who have sex with men community, the gay men community.
	That's quite concerning, isn't it?
	And it seems to be a little bit brushed over here.
	But happily, both children are doing well, and in a statement the CDC said that the cases are unrelated to one another, and that both are the likely result of household transmission.
	That seems to contradict a little bit of what was said before.
	Epidemiologists have warned that the risk isn't limited to any one community, and that somebody who's not gay can get it just as easily as someone who is gay.
	Presumably if you get stuck in your washing machine.
	Yeah, not just as easily.
	I mean, basically not.
	Not just as easily.
	No, and there was a Guardian article which I found hilarious from yesterday or the day before.
	Monkeypox is just the latest virus to threaten gay intimacy.
	Decades after the AIDS pandemic began, we still haven't learned our lesson- I mean, that's not where they're going with this.
	Game-changing drugs restored some peace of mind.
	Now I can have sex with all the anonymous men that I want, consequence-free.
	Oh no, but now Monkey Pox puts that progress at risk.
	Last week I went to my doctor's office for a long-scheduled sexually transmitted infection check-up and started to cry a few minutes into my appointment.
	Like many gay men, I'm on a daily drug called pre-exposure prophylaxis, or PrEP, which prevents me from being infected by HIV, even if I were to have sex without a condom or use injection drugs.
	I mean, as far as I'm concerned, as far as I'm aware...
	Generally, being in a trusting, monogamous relationship with one person who you trust to not have sex with other people tends to keep you safe from almost all STDs, as far as I'm aware.
	But that's outrageous, Harry.
	You're suggesting people just have loving relationships.
	What's wrong with you?
	I know, it's terribly reductive of me.
	At 44 years old, I am of the generation who knew about AIDS before we even knew about sex.
	From childhood, I conflated sexuality and fear.
	Prep was a game changer in taking that fear away.
	Dude, when I was growing up, I conflated sexuality with fear to a certain extent because all of the videos they showed us in primary school were don't have sex or you'll get pregnant.
	Don't have sex or you'll get pregnant.
	You might get AIDS and die.
	It's not just something that's explicit for particular communities.
	But last week, HIV was very much not on my mind, and almost as soon as the physician's assistant closed the door, I burst into tears.
	The PA very sweetly talked me through my feelings and told me that he didn't think I had monkeypox, but we could do a test if I wanted.
	He also kindly, but very firmly, told me not to feel bad about feeling bad.
	We're all on the edge, he said.
	Him, me, every gay man we both knew.
	It's been a lot for all of us.
	I realised in that moment how lucky I am to have a gay doctor's office to my body, To take my body and my feelings seriously and realise how angry I was that for the third time in my life, a viral pandemic was dictating my sex life, shaping my professional life, messing with my head, and keeping me from experiencing intimacy.
	You could have given me any random three words in the article and I'd know it was The Guardian.
	You really could.
	People crying and other people saying, it's okay, it's all good.
	This is all happening in a GP. Talking about people's bodies rather than them as individuals.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's just ridiculous.
	And also the idea that it's implying that intimacy is something only physical.
	Rather than metaphysical and emotional as well.
	The intimacy of having a quiet night in with your significant other and just watching a movie.
	I mean, that just seems to be completely alien.
	Netflix with no chill.
	Exactly.
	Listen, love, Daredevil is a really good show and you need to watch it.
	That's the only thing that's intimate about tonight, love.
	And if you don't pay attention to the action scenes, I will judge you.
	If you And also, try not to fall asleep immediately.
	You know what I mean, how women immediately fall asleep when you watch a film?
	Am I crazy?
	No, this happened.
	Recently, I watched, for the first time ever, what was it?
	It wasn't Pale Rider.
	It was one of the other Clint Eastwood.
	High Plains Drifter.
	Yes, High Plains Drifter.
	I watched it for the first time just a few weeks ago.
	I was enthralled the whole way through.
	And the missus was there, literally falling asleep.
	And I'm there, do you not understand what you're missing?
	Do you not get the tension?
	Oh, it's Clint!
	Boring, though.
	Do you not understand Clint's desperate stare?
	That's an instant breakup for me.
	If you criticise Clint Eastwood...
	Well, I mean, it's been five and a half over that years now, so, you know...
	And I'm single, so this may be a difference in approach.
	Perhaps.
	Perhaps, perhaps.
	Or perhaps I'm just in the sunk cost fallacy at this point.
	Who knows?
	Who knows what's going on?
	But anyway, this is all very, very much in contrast to the response that everybody got during COVID, where, you know, it's reductive to tell gay men to not have sex, but at the same time, two years ago now...
	Canada was advising people that having safe sex will be involving glory holes.
	You must use the glory hole to have safe sex.
	Or just avoid it altogether.
	That's when it was all the bad people as well.
	The straight white people and so on.
	Like you and I. Yeah.
	We should use a little hole.
	Oh, I can hear the fanfic scribbling right now.
	Just watching Netflix through a little hole in the wall.
	Yeah, and then as well, the funniest bit and the biggest bit of hypocrisy on the whole thing, even though these people don't understand hypocrisy, well, they recognise that it exists, but still, is the Daily Mail pointed out that Gavin Newsom declared monkeypox a state of emergency in California, despite the fact that they were still allowing, which they wouldn't have allowed two years ago for COVID, a gay leather kink festival to go ahead.
	You say they wouldn't have allowed it, but that was the other great exemption, wasn't it?
	The BLM riots.
	Oh yeah, that's true.
	In the height of COVID, it was suddenly like, yeah, but it's okay to go out and write, guys.
	And the hypocrisy and the insanity there, that's when you realise the left don't really believe any of this, you know what I mean?
	No, of course not.
	They believe in power.
	Right.
	Either they don't believe anything they said about COVID, or because they live in a purely semantic world, they couldn't conceive of the difference between their political concepts and an actual illness.
	You know what I mean?
	What did they think?
	I think they just thought, they exposed, they knew that COVID wasn't really that serious, and they just said, go out and riot.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, I think it just demonstrates, like I say, that it is purely about power.
	It's the power to tell everybody else that they're not allowed to do something while you blatantly throw it in their face that you're doing that exact thing.
	It really demoralizes a society, which we are definitely seeing.
	Yeah, I watched one comedian talking to another comedian about it, and one guy, it was Mark Norman, he said, it seemed a bit strange how we weren't supposed to go out, but suddenly you could go out and march for BLM. He was sort of just softballing it.
	He knew full well it was terrible.
	It seemed a bit weird to me.
	The other comedian goes, oh yeah, but that just shows how passionate they were that they went out anywhere.
	I was like...
	Really?
	That's what you've gone with?
	Oh, this is what we're going with, yeah.
	I'm never watching you again.
	You shill.
	That's disgusting.
	That's the right response.
	But, so, seeing as they can get away with this, the lesson that I seem to have learned is that if there is ever a pandemic again and we're worried about personal liberties and also, you know, just general civil liberties, the traditions that we're built on, just being able to go outside and have a nice day, really, if we're worried about that, we should just say we're all gay.
	And then, so technically, whatever disease is coming up is only affecting gay people.
	And then say we're being marginalised if public health officials try and lock us down.
	Problem solved, lads.
	Problem solved.
	And there we go.
	Let's move on to the one video comment that we've got for today.
	While I do believe in Bitcoin, one of the biggest issues it has right now is confidence.
	With the dollar or gold, people can guarantee that they'll be able to buy food, water, or anything else they want.
	With crypto, it's still a bit nebulous in people's perception.
	It doesn't help that the mainstream media is demonizing Bitcoin and crypto in general right now, focusing heavily on the crypto crash that happened recently, which happened exactly around the same time the stock market was crashing, but...
	You know, crypto is a little bit more interesting to cover, I guess.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	I don't actually know much about crypto at all.
	It's one of my big areas of just blank information.
	Do you know much about it?
	I'm not an expert.
	I mean, your man is Dom Frisbee, who you had on the other day.
	He's literally written the book on it.
	Oh, has he written a book on it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I'll need to get a hold of that.
	Referred to Mr.
	Frisbee.
	Yeah, I've got the Bitcoin standard, which I need to actually read at some point.
	I understand that it's massively valuable because of people just wanting to decentralize and deregulate currency, which is something I absolutely support.
	I just hear about the whole idea of blockchains.
	Sounds foreign to me.
	You might as well be speaking French.
	And then also the idea that some people...
	I think this is with NFTs and not crypto, although it might be as well.
	They say that NFTs are bad for the environment.
	Do you hear about that?
	I've not heard that one.
	I thought they were little pictures.
	That's the thing.
	I thought they were JPEGs, but I hear people saying that apparently blockchain...
	John, do you know anything about that?
	Yeah, why are they bad for the environment?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's the same as Bitcoin mining.
	Perhaps.
	I don't know.
	But Bitcoin mining is bad for the environment, of course.
	Fair put.
	Well, everything is bad for the environment, according to certain people, and this is why you should stop having children, according to those same childless people.
	So, there we go.
	But let's move on to the comments.
	Ron Swanzy, as a top comment here, says, Funniest show for a while, lads.
	The Nick-Harry combo is deadly.
	Yes!
	Northern boys bringing it in!
	Yes!
	Harry, there's no Olympic washing, but there is extreme ironing.
	And I reckon the men would still be better at that as well.
	The Truth about 42%.
	Chris Wolfe says, Sorry to hear about your cousin, Nick.
	People often overlook the fact that people joking about a tragedy have often been touched by that tragedy.
	Yes, it was a horrific thing and it's devastating for a family and you never recover from it.
	The only thing I'd add is I was thinking in my head about a contradiction in what I said because I said that it's actually better to not indulge things.
	And then I suddenly said, and that's better for your mental health.
	And then a few moments later I said my cousin killed himself.
	One difference I do believe, I don't want to say anything bad about his family or anything, but...
	They were much more indulgent than my family.
	And I always wonder, I had lots of problems with mental health stuff, but my family was so uninterested in it and so northern about it that I sometimes wonder, actually, was that better for me?
	Mate, my parents were the exact same with me.
	When I was a teenager and all this stuff started going around and I was like, oh, what if I'm autistic?
	What if I've got depression?
	They just went, no, you don't.
	Get on with it.
	And honestly, that's been so healthy for me.
	I do think it probably ultimately helped.
	Whereas, you know, his family, I don't know.
	But you don't want to blame anyone because there's no blame.
	It's just what it is.
	But yeah, it is horrendous.
	And thank you for that comment.
	Alex Ogle saying that girls may resort to gender dysphoria because of unwanted sexual attention from older men seems a bit trivial.
	What strikes me as far more likely is that girls have grown up surrounded by rainbows, unicorns, and a vision of the world as a paradise by parents that have coddled them, and then their surging hormones suddenly make them realize that they won't become a princess, they won't get the attention of that pop-slash-movie star, and that they live in a world that also contains grime and That is all true,
	and I do understand what you mean when you say it seems a bit trivial, but that is something, having looked into this, that does seem to be a recurring thing.
	There are quite a few in...
	With detransitioners and other such people, it does seem to be a thing that keeps popping up, that they start to get unwanted sexual attention from men, and especially older men, that they're not used to anymore.
	In fact, reading Irreversible Damage was quite eye-opening in this because Abigail Schreier, the author of that, even says that when she was a teenager, all of a sudden she started to get unwanted attention from men, from older men, like creepy older men who are like her dad's age, and it made her like creepy older men who are like her dad's age, and it made her want to withdraw herself from public eye, wanted her to be able to find a way to get
	So I can understand how something like that would potentially push you when it's shown as such an easy option nowadays to wanting to transition, even if it's just socially, just dressing in baggier clothing and other such things.
	If you socially transition, then maybe the hope would be that they would get their attention off you.
	And then if that doesn't work, then it would go even further.
	Yeah, it must be really...
	I can't imagine what it's like to suddenly have all the people latching after you and suddenly everyone looking at you and is into...
	You know, I'm used to being the creepy guy, so I'm not used to...
	I've got no idea what it's like.
	I mean, you can tell just looking at you.
	The other way around.
	Yeah, Baron from Warhawk says, It's just a phase, huh?
	I miss the days when the phase was simply just kids getting a mohawk or a belly button ring instead of chopping their dicks and breasts off while being pumped full of hormones.
	So do I. I mean, that's the weird things.
	It makes me look back on the weird self-harming emo days, even though they weren't good.
	At least they were better.
	At least if you were like...
	These people that I knew who were cutting themselves, at least then it's only like skin deep, quite literally.
	And you can heal from it, you can recover from it.
	Obviously, it's not good.
	It's not a good state of mind to be in.
	It's very negative.
	But still, it was less long-lasting damage to yourself than just chopping your breasts off.
	And it's ridiculous.
	There are actual clinics in Florida, and I'm shocked that someone like Ron DeSantis would be cool with it happening in Florida.
	But there is run by a crazy Irish woman...
	Who proudly displays on her website how she's performed double mastectomies on like 12 and 13 year olds.
	Wow.
	It's vile.
	The fact that you can just be proud and showcase that to the world that that's what you've been doing.
	Absolutely vile to me.
	Colin P. I find it telling that the default always seems to be to affirm the dysphoria and push the subject towards life-altering surgery.
	Does it never occur to these activists to perhaps help them to accept their bodies as they are?
	That would be the right approach if you were talking about people who don't have a political agenda that they want to push to destabilise Western society.
	But...
	And there's also a contradiction there with the whole body positivity.
	You know, fat is beautiful.
	It's like, bodies are beautiful.
	Accept yourself.
	Well, don't accept yourself.
	You need to change gender.
	What?
	Do you know what I mean?
	That's a contradiction to me.
	It is a bit confusing.
	One of the other things that I've seen, there does seem to be a case of it where a lot of people will be going onto online forums and there's a direct link that you can find on places like Tumblr between pro-anorexia sites and And pro-transitioning sites.
	And they'll speak to older people who've transitioned or other people who are going through transition, and they'll be kind of pushed into it by them.
	And I think there's two reasons for this, which is, one, people want other people to affirm their own decisions vicariously for them.
	If other people are doing it and I did it already, then that means I was right to do that.
	And two, the really, really insidious one, is I do think there is a massive element of sexual fetish On the online forums of older men especially pushing younger men into transitioning.
	It's really weird.
	It's really weird.
	But anyway, Brian Tomlinson says, From Communists in the UK, save vulnerable tranny kids use the full force of law that we want to defund onto those that attack vulnerable tranny kids.
	Vulnerability working class white English children being attacked by Muslim paedophile gangs.
	Tumbleweed.
	Very true.
	And yeah, that's the thing.
	When there's such a political animus directing the entire industry right now, it is very scary because with people like...
	I don't want to bring up Leo's favourite, but Blair White and other people like Book Angel, you can see that the transition has alleviated whatever mental health concerns they had before, at least for the time being.
	Book Angel's been that way for, what, like 20-30 years at this point?
	So there are people who it will have a positive effect on, but every single time you are kind of rolling the dice, you don't know if you're really getting to the underlying issues.
	And imagine the backlash when we look back and realise we mutilated all these people permanently.
	Everyone talks about the lawsuits.
	Imagine, it's just going to be absolutely horrific.
	I mean, remember the...
	I mean, neither of us...
	Well, I don't know how old you are.
	But remember the lobotomy craze of the 1950s and 1960s where it was just fashionable?
	Oh, your wife's being a bit crazy?
	Get a lobotomized.
	Yeah, that is before my time.
	But yeah, electroshock treatment, all these things we look back on now.
	And we look back and recognize that they were hideous, and even then when people say, oh, the science can't be corrupted, it's like, we all know and are very, very well aware of all of the doctors who were paid off by tobacco companies to tell you that smoking will actually fix all of your physical problems.
	So the idea that these people don't recognize this is absurd, and they do recognize it, but they want to push a political agenda.
	They want to upend Western society, and this is a very easy way of doing it, sadly.
	Bleach Demon.
	When will the public service announcement of abstinence for two weeks to flatten the monkeypox curve?
	I think this one was putting the wrong one, but anyway.
	Start.
	Will there be mandatory social distancing orgies?
	Think of others' safety.
	No, none of that, because they are a protected class.
	Andrew Narragh.
	Pro-trans activism is just population control, as is pro-abortion activism.
	As always, the left seeks to control all aspects of life, including the creation of it.
	Absolutely true.
	Excuse me there.
	Theodore Pinnock says, what's the statistic?
	98% of trans children, if nothing is done, simply grow out of it.
	I think it is between 88% and 98%, I think.
	Callum Dayton, question for Nick.
	What is a woman?
	Thanks, Callum.
	Great question.
	A woman's a feeling.
	I had it during my segment.
	I felt I was a woman there.
	And then in the third segment, I was a gay man and I accidentally got monkeypox.
	So, yeah, it's the sort of feeling that floats around.
	It's a vibe.
	Well, something floated around, certainly, to give you that monkeypox.
	I stand with Macy Gray.
	It's a vibe.
	Being a woman is a great vibe.
	I thought being hot was a vibe.
	That's the new standard, isn't it?
	Did you not hear Macy come on the telly and say it's a vibe?
	Everything is a vibe.
	I hate my generation.
	I hate my generation so much.
	That was her struggle session where she was, you know, she's not your generation.
	Don't worry.
	She said that basically she was on the gender critical side.
	Oh, okay.
	Not women.
	And then she got attacked and destroyed.
	So she came out and went, being a woman's a vibe.
	And she changed it to that.
	So I stand with Macy Gray.
	It's a vibe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Do you want to read out your comments?
	Okay, I'll go for it.
	Yeah.
	On set.
	Okay.
	Don't want to have a dry mouth while smashing through these in case we get more compliments.
	Okay, Edward of Woodstock, Harry and Nick, a pair of liberal progressives supporting association football.
	Now Leo is here on Tuesday.
	What did I say?
	Oh, sorry, I thought I said the wrong name.
	Oh, yeah, because Leo, the neo-lib wokester, yeah.
	We all know what Leo's like.
	Great guy, but very, very, very woke.
	Real football is played between two villages.
	The goals are the doorway of the pub, and if someone hasn't been seriously injured and half beaten to death by the end, it's not a real game.
	Bring back classic foot the ball.
	Yeah, yeah, I play five-a-side once a week, and I cut my head open the other week, and that's a proper game of football.
	So Henry Ashman, I'm kind of annoyed that the women won, which is frustrating as I actually like women's international football and have watched England regularly since the 2015 World Cup.
	I watch the men's more often and I'm well aware of the differences between the two sports.
	None of these people will ever go watch a domestic women's match.
	They'll all refuse to acknowledge that women's international teams have lost to schoolboys on more than one occasion.
	I forgot to mention that.
	The American team lost to some 15-year-old boys.
	Yeah, that was amazing.
	The ones where they were also whining about why they needed more pay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I've watched the rugby at the Commonwealth Games the other weekend where they had the women and men's matches on back-to-back.
	And the 100 cricket tournament has some back-to-back men and women's matches.
	You really see the difference between the two genders when you do that.
	So that's a very comprehensive sporting analysis there.
	Free Will to...
	Is it 2000?
	It's a reference to Rush.
	So I call him 2112, because that's the name of the album.
	2112, that's better then.
	He often comments or they...
	I'm going to assume he...
	He's based and he likes Rush.
	Probably a man.
	Does diversity mean a mix of backgrounds and ethnicity, or does it mean too many whites?
	The only criteria for picking a team should be ability and fitness.
	Yep.
	Absolument.
	Not anymore.
	How are you supposed to win without diversity?
	Well, indeed.
	Diversity naturally happened with the England men's team.
	I'm sure it all naturally happened with the women's team.
	I thought Gareth Southgate being...
	I think he...
	Claimed himself as a massive wokester.
	He's woke.
	I would imagine that he was probably trying to engineer the team to be as diverse as possible.
	Well, I wouldn't put it past him.
	I mean, in general, in football.
	It's a working-class game.
	It's competitive, so you get the best people, regardless of race.
	General Hai Ping, Chinese Internet Battalion.
	So, shame Gary didn't pull the race car to remind them that he's actually on the darker end of the progressives spectrum and thus outranked that of a paltry white lioness.
	That's true.
	He's...
	He should have pulled his race card.
	He's pulled the race card before.
	It didn't go that well for him, did it?
	He's in trouble, Gary, isn't he?
	He keeps getting cancelled.
	Poor lad.
	Hopefully his BBC money will make him feel a bit better.
	Generico101.
	What a pack of racists trying to praise the women's all-white team instead of the diverse men's team is enforcing white supremacy.
	Any message of support for the women's team is an admission of Nazism.
	That is true, and we did acknowledge that.
	And if anyone looks like a Nazi, it's Harry here.
	I am what Hitler was aiming for, sadly.
	Yeah, you're the dream.
	Free Will 2112.
	Again, perish the thought that a politician would jump on a sporting bandwagon to spout empty faux patriotism in order to con a voting demographic into thinking that this politician is not a weff stooge.
	Always think it's a bit harsh on Trust.
	Call me a weff stooge, but someone said to me, yes, Rishi's full weff and Morden's full weff.
	Someone said to me, who was quite smart, that Trust was just on the website.
	She's not as weff, but I don't know.
	I mean, I don't trust any politicians, but sadly, if I have to choose between the best of a bad situation, Truss does seem to be the one who is better than Rishi, certainly.
	If only because Truss is happy to give me a tax break or tax cut of some form, whereas Rishi thinks that that would increase inflation.
	And she said people shouldn't transition until at least 18, a woman is a woman, etc.
	And people always shout at you, they're all corrupt!
	I'm just talking about the difference between these two, okay?
	I know they're both bad, you know, you say, well, trust is better than Rishi, and people tweet me, how dare you?
	I'm like, well, I'm just saying in this particular context.
	I know, it's like the difference on a scale of 1 to 10, between a 0 and a 0.5.
	There you go, that's the kind of distinction we're talking here.
	George Happ, women's football is the perfect example of gynocentrism.
	You have to watch, enjoy and praise the women in spite of their quality of work.
	The trans lobby, sounds like Harry, the trans lobby also proved that the biology of a woman doesn't really matter.
	You have to worship the image of a woman regardless of what's under that dress.
	Yep.
	Seems quite fair.
	Ben van der Plaats.
	I'm glad you guys are talking about the football thing.
	This football thing.
	I happened to catch the last half hour of the game while at lunch at Texas Roadhouse.
	Sorry, I can't even read.
	These are quite dark.
	It was certainly fun, but I was also excited for all the political takes to come from it.
	As you've shown, they've been hilarious and worth the wait.
	Well, I'm glad you found them hilarious.
	Showing your age there...
	I know, I can't really read it.
	They're in dark.
	I know, I'm such a boomer.
	Although, Rory thought I was 28.
	Win.
	He said he thought you were 28.
	He thought it.
	Brian Tomlinson, I really enjoyed England women's team beating Germany on Sunday.
	Well, there is that.
	We did still beat Germany.
	I should have said that.
	The first time I'd watched them play, and in some ways it was better than the Premier League prima donnas.
	No knee bending, no spitting, no getting a tap on ankle, then rolling around like they had been nutted by Conor McGregor, with an added bonus of no Gary Lineker.
	And those are actually all fair points.
	I should have included them for balance, but I wanted to attack.
	Do you reckon nut from Conor McGregor would give you monkeypox?
	Probably would.
	Depends where he's been.
	What do you know about him?
	I don't know much about him.
	I don't need to know anymore.
	Depends how much you consumed...
	I'm not even going to say it.
	Carry on.
	Depending on how much piss I guzzle.
	Well, how many metric tons of the nut you ingested.
	On to the San Francisco Monkey Pox comments.
	BasedApe says, Can people stop blaming me for starting Monkey Pox?
	It wasn't me.
	This is very offensive.
	It's monkey racism.
	Thank you.
	Well, BasedApe, they did also originally say that they wanted to change the name of Monkey Pox because it was being associated with black people.
	I don't know who is associating it with black people other than the progressives saying...
	It's like the orcs, Warhammer, you know, where they're like, oh, these orcs obviously remind me of black people, therefore they're racist, and everybody else goes...
	Do they?
	I thought the orcs are like cockney working class white people, I always think.
	I mean, I just thought the orcs were orcs.
	Thought they're a fantasy creature.
	In the movies, they're like cockney working class.
	Oh, I'm talking about Warhammer.
	I don't know if there's...
	Oh, sorry, I thought you were talking about Lord of the Rings.
	There was that Warhammer film which I made sure to avoid.
	I'm talking about the Lord of the Rings movies.
	Yeah, Lord of the Rings, there's the one that they rip apart for the...
	Back on the Meggie, boys!
	He's definitely Cockney.
	S.H. Silver says, this is a consequence of the leftist belief in actions without the consequences of reality.
	They want society, the state, to be the controller of the consequences, thus any negative outcomes in society failing them.
	Yes, correct.
	Baron Von Warhawk says, honestly speaking, if you are dumb enough to go to a gay urine orgy with random strangers during an STD pandemic that seems to only target gay men, you kinda deserve monkeypox.
	I mean, thank you for saying it, because I was thinking it the whole time.
	And the funny thing is that they've had to reaffirm over and over again, they've had to keep restating, it's not an STD, guys.
	It's not an STD. It just keeps being spread purely by gay men at orgies, but it's not an STD. Which is true, but, you know, it certainly acts like an STD. Definitely a TD. Yes, absolutely.
	To Callum Dayton, when I said I was a positive person, I meant HIV. Frankie Boyle on Mock the Week when he was a good guy.
	He's always been a massive lefty, but he was funny back in the day.
	I just did an interview with Woke Leo Kirst for a weekly sceptic podcast.
	Is this his new prefix?
	Yeah, the weekly sceptic podcast which I'm doing with Toby Young, and we actually talked about Frankie Boyle and how he's such a hypocrite about cancel culture, presciently, and then that week he then got in trouble for saying he wanted to Rape and kill Holly Willoughby, I believe.
	It was the same set.
	I covered it on Tuesday with Leo, where Frankie Boyle, yeah, he was going on about how people, oh, people who say they've been silenced, oh, it's so ridiculous, because why can I still hear you?
	Because, you know, the only meaning of cancel means you get literally exiled from society.
	Sotskied out of the photo, anything less is not enough.
	Yeah, and in that same latitude set that he did, yeah, he made a joke about raping and killing Holly Willoughby, at which point he said, well, you've obviously just taken me completely out of context.
	Yeah, and we actually talked about it last night on Headliners on GB, and I ended up saying, you know, other people can't make that joke, and I ended up using the phrase, because you're not part of the rape joke elite.
	I might have said rape elite.
	I think I said rape joke elite, because Frankie Boyle can make that joke.
	I mean, there is certainly a rapey elite out there.
	There's a rapey elite, and there's now a rape joke elite, where if you're a mainstream comedian, woke comedian, you can say those jokes, and if you're not...
	Well, as long as you're making jokes about women being raped, because who knows what one of those is anyway.
	I was at my weekend orgy and there just happened to be...
	How was I supposed to know?
	Look at how horribly Carl was treated, our very own great leader, versus Frankie Boyle.
	There's an extraordinary difference in two rape jokes, very different...
	Now, he was going for elected office, but still, the harshness of it...
	I thought the rape joke was, like, years before that.
	I'm sorry, I've not looked far enough into the backstory and lore of our great leader.
	Yeah, they brought it out again, but the point is, some people can make rape jokes and some can't, and you have to be part of the woke elite.
	I mean, Carl's was like an anti-rape joke as well, because he said he wasn't going to.
	If Frankie Boyle is more than welcome to just say, oh yeah, I'm going to bloody rape you...
	And he can get away with it as long as he just says, ah, just think about the context, though.
	Grant Gibson, we had almost 800 cases in Canada before we had our first female case.
	Very interesting.
	Caught from a bisexual man, shocked Pikachu.
	Ardent Party says, but wait, it gets worse.
	Harry, here in Canada, our chief medical officer, told people that if they were going to have sex, they should keep their masks on to avoid getting covered.
	I think they were saying that over here as well.
	It's completely ridiculous advice they were giving out.
	Although in a gay orgy you might wear a mask as a kind of eyes wide shut sort of mask if you think about it.
	Oh yeah, yeah, I suppose so.
	Kevin Fox, monkeypox in Thailand is apparently xenophobic.
	A headline that appeared in my inbox about monkeypox here in Thailand and this was the view on the health expert here.
	A member of the Medical Council of Thailand has advised Thais to avoid sexual contact with foreign nationals to help contain the spread of monkeypox.
	This comes despite the fact that the disease can't be transmitted via sexual conduct.
	Another stick to beat the...
	You've made me a boomer as well.
	I can't read it now.
	Another stick to beat the foreigners here with, especially since most of the money going through massage parlours and to go-go dancers in soy cowboy comes from foreigners.
	That's a fair point.
	So it's...
	Thailand notoriously xenophobic.
	Let's go through some of the honourable mentions we've got here.
	So Colin P. What, you mean COVID can't differentiate between a good social gathering and a bad one?
	Never could.
	Never could, sadly.
	Free Will 2112.
	High Plains Drifter is excellent.
	Outlaw Josie Wales is even better.
	Not seen that one.
	Yes, and it was very cool the way I knew immediately which film you meant.
	Outlaw...
	I'm just praising myself there.
	Outlaw Josie Wales, my dad's favourite movie.
	Absolutely brilliant.
	It's a great revenge movie.
	Is it Eastwood?
	Of course.
	If you love Eastwood and you love Revenge, then you've got to watch it.
	It's great.
	And those are my two favourite things.
	Mine too.
	And the only one I say is perhaps even better is Unforgiven.
	And I know it's a reworking, a meta post-modernist Western, but it is very brilliant.
	I don't care if people want to say, oh, it's a deconstruction of the genre, therefore postmodern, therefore bad.
	It's an awesome film.
	Unforgiven is an absolute classic and deserves to be looked on as such.
	Well, if you look Unforgiven, watch Josie Wells.
	I will do in that case.
	Josie Wells.
	I've been trying to go through a bit of a Western binge recently, because Razor Fist did a video on Westerns recently that made me go, damn.
	Have you seen The Searchers?
	Yeah, I've seen the searches way back when.
	Have you shot Liberty Valance?
	The man who shot Liberty Valance, sorry.
	I haven't, actually.
	Okay, we're giving you a few here that spin to mind.
	Go on.
	I think that's it.
	But those are two.
	Shane, going really far back.
	No, I haven't.
	There are better ones than that.
	They're not spinning to mind right now.
	Of course, you've got the Wild Bunch.
	I've not watched that.
	So many, mate, on your list.
	I'll send you the syllabus.
	Yeah, send me the Western syllabus.
	We can do a premium podcast on it sometime.
	I have watched Fistful of Dollars and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, but never for a few dollars more.
	Really?
	Oh, it's really good.
	You should watch that.
	And have you watched Once Upon a Time in the West?
	Yes.
	Of course.
	That's an absolutely brilliant film.
	Bronson in that is awesome.
	You brought too, too many.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Catastrophic Regression Threshold says...
	I'm really sorry to hear that, but this is what...
	What I was saying as well.
	Sadly, it does seem to be a case where these girls who experience this stuff from a very young age want to get male attention away from them.
	And what's a better way to do that than to become a man, as far as they can tell?
	But that's really awful.
	I hope things get better there.
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Nick Croft says, Reminds me when I came back from sixth form sociology lesson full of Marxism and my mum just said, Forget all that claptrap.
	She was right.
	That's the proper, that's the stoic northern approach to it right there.
	Michael Magos says, Brewing alcohol is bad for the environment.
	You will own nothing.
	Eat Z-Bugs and be sober.
	I refuse.
	Charles Ellingdon says, Sorry to tell you guys, we still use electroconvulsion therapy as last resort for extremely depressed people who cannot be lobotomized by antidepressants.
	Yeah, and I almost said that.
	As soon as I said it, I was going to say, oh, and we still use that, but I didn't want to just fill the whole podcast with things I regretted to say.
	Things that are miserable, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's true.
	That honestly sucks to hear, because it doesn't seem...
	I mean, I would need to look into the efficacy of it.
	Josh will probably tell me.
	Josh wants to shock people's brains with electrodes anyway, so I'm sure he's an expert on it.
	He looks the type.
	He does look slightly evil, doesn't he?
	Anyway, that's all the time we've got for today.
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