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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #447

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	Good afternoon folks.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters for Friday the 29th of July.
	I'm Carl and I am joined by very special guests, Richard and Fred of Right Side Fred.
	Hello, nice to be here.
	How are you?
	I'm brilliant, thank you so much for joining us.
	Right, so today, before we go on, we've got the Gold Tier Zoom call for any of our It smells strong, doesn't it?
	Whoa.
	That's not bad.
	It's not bad.
	I know it sounds ridiculous to say, but you can taste the nettles, can't you?
	You actually can.
	You actually can.
	If it was really cold.
	Yeah, it would need to be really, really cold.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it has just come out of the fridge, but it's been sat here for five, ten minutes, hasn't it?
	I actually quite like it.
	It's quite fruit juicy, isn't it?
	It's quite fruit juicy, yeah.
	I wouldn't have known that was made of nettles.
	No, no, no.
	If your hand told me.
	Do they take the sting out when they make the wine?
	You know, I actually remember reading something about nettle tea.
	Oh, nettle soup.
	That's right.
	As soon as you boil the nettles, the stings are destroyed.
	Oh, really?
	So we're not going to suddenly...
	Not to my knowledge.
	It could be monkeypox.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	Nettlepox.
	Nettlepox.
	That'll be the next thing.
	Anyway, so let's crack on.
	So it turns out no one wants to talk about the VAERS numbers.
	Now VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
	And this is something we can't really talk about on YouTube because YouTube has editorial guidelines.
	So if you're watching this on YouTube, you can go over to lotusseeters.com and go over there and watch the rest of this podcast there.
	And while you're there, you can sign up for £5 a month and support us and watch premium podcasts like this.
	Again, things we can't put on YouTube.
	Pfizer's Dirty Little Secret, where Harry goes through the Pfizer documents that were leaked that Pfizer wanted locked away for 75 years.
	Again, can't talk about that on YouTube, so we'll see you over there.
	Anyway, for those people on the website, turns out that the coronavirus damages your heart.
	What a shock.
	So it's the spike protein in particular.
	Now, I'm no scientist, but I think this is very interesting.
	I'm just going to lay out a few things, and then we'll have a quick chat about it.
	So scientists think they've identified why heart damage is so common among COVID patients, because new research has found that the coronavirus spike protein itself is capable of causing heart muscle injury.
	And so that's really interesting, because what is the vaccine made from?
	The spike protein itself.
	Yes.
	And so this is very concerning.
	The one doctor, a Chinese name that I can't pronounce, Dr.
	Lin, says that we've discovered this happens, but we don't know the mechanistic details of how this occurs.
	And I think this is important because this is something that has always been the case.
	It's just we didn't know.
	It was always the case.
	And this is, in fact, my problem with making big moves based on science.
	It's like, okay, we've got a study that suggests this.
	Yes, you do.
	But in two weeks' time, you might have a study that suggests not even something else, that there's another thing that you were blind to.
	You were making decisions with all these blind spots.
	But they say that the spike protein has unknown pathological roles, but in their opinion, the data is that the spike protein is causing the heart muscle damage.
	And so let's go up to the CDC. And see what the mRNA COVID vaccines do.
	Because I think that this might be putting together the jigsaw puzzle of why all these heart attacks are happening.
	So they say, after the vaccination, the mRNA will enter muscle cells.
	Once inside, they use the cell's machinery to produce a harmless piece of what is called the spike protein.
	The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.
	You know, that one that we've just discovered causes heart problems.
	After the protein piece is made, our cells break down the mRNA and remove it, leaving the body as waste.
	Next, our cells display the spike protein piece on their surface.
	Our immune system recognizes the protein does not belong there and triggers the immune system to produce antibodies that will fight it off.
	I think that's probably going to be the reason.
	Yeah, I mean, what's interesting about this, I think, is that I'd never, ever heard of spike proteins.
	I actually had.
	I did A-level biology.
	Oh, did you?
	So I actually had this work.
	Oh, okay.
	And this is...
	It was all...
	You suddenly find yourself...
	I mean, I'm reading the Naomi Wolf book.
	I've just finished it.
	And you see names of drugs you've never heard of?
	Yeah.
	And you suddenly find there's a whole...
	Oh, there's a whole area of learning that you have no clue about.
	One of the things I think is interesting about the whole vaccine thing is, in a way, people's ignorance of medicine and ignorance of science was the weapon that they used.
	That's what they did.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Consent and information and all that stuff.
	And then they start talking about jabbing babies.
	Well, you know you can't talk to a two-year-old kid and get an informed choice decision on that.
	I mean, I think this shows that nobody was making an informed choice.
	I don't think they were.
	I think also they've exploited decades of trust.
	Absolutely.
	Because someone walks in the room with a white coat on and a stethoscope.
	I'm the same.
	You go, yes, doctor.
	What do you advise?
	And now I'm very nervous about people in white coats.
	Yeah.
	Because a lot of them have proved to be that reliable.
	And also any kind of medication.
	You know, you take ibuprofen or stuff you've been taking for years.
	And what I think of the trust issue is really interesting, I think.
	Because the trust in almost every organization or pursuit that you can think of has leeched away.
	So you start doubting your doctor.
	You start doubting the police.
	You start doubting the courts.
	Everything's Well, everything's becoming politicized, isn't it?
	So there's reason to doubt.
	I mean, especially the reaction to things like ivermectin.
	Ivermectin's an old drug.
	There's decades and decades of evidence of how it works because it's been used.
	And suddenly they're like, oh no, this is horse pacing.
	You're not allowed to use this.
	You've got to have this untested mRNA vaccine.
	I mean, you can't speak to the guy who invented mRNA vaccines.
	No.
	Because he's been taken off social media because he was skeptical of this.
	Yes.
	And suddenly the whole thing starts being like, right, okay, I just don't trust it.
	And so this I found just absolutely fascinating.
	And I think this gets even worse when you put it into the context of, well, COVID was probably made in a lab.
	Yeah.
	So this was probably designed.
	If we can go to the next one, John.
	Yeah.
	Basically think that the structure of COVID means it must have been made in a lab.
	They say that there are two key pieces of evidence to support the claim.
	The first relates to the nature of gain-of-function research, which makes it more transmissible.
	And the other is something called a double CGG sequence.
	Now, I'm no molecular biologist, so I don't know what that is.
	But what they say is that this has never been naturally found among an entire group of coronaviruses, which includes the COV-2 from which COVID-19 comes.
	And so this means what they call they call this a damning fact, as in you would have to explain why this thing is not found in nature and how it ended up being in COVID-19.
	OK.
	And so they say, well, look, I mean, they literally say, quote, it must have been engineered.
	Right.
	Okay.
	The interesting thing about this as well is that this is apparently against what would naturally happen as well.
	So this is the least likely thing to have come out of a natural evolution.
	And it's not been found in nature because it's unlikely.
	And so it's one of those things that has to be explained.
	And this is not something that Fauci himself wasn't aware of.
	Of course, as early as January 2020, emails reveal that he knew, that he had people warning.
	Yes, he did.
	And of course, he was funding gain-of-function research.
	Yes, exactly.
	Illegally.
	Yes, he was, yes.
	Wasn't the story that Obama didn't like the thought of the gain-of-function, which is why that research was going on in America?
	Yes.
	And then it was transferred to Wuhan.
	Yeah, and through Peter Daszak and his, I can't remember the name of his organisation now.
	But the money then gets to Wuhan and suddenly this novel coronavirus that appears to be engineered escapes, you know, somehow.
	And again, the concerning thing, if you put that, link all this together, it looks terrible.
	And then the fact that the spike protein of it damages the heart.
	I mean, they either engineered this unintentionally to damage your heart.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or there's an alternative, which is a bit concerning.
	Yes, it is.
	I don't know either way.
	No.
	I mean, you could also claim that the pharmaceutical companies didn't care.
	The only thing they wanted...
	All they wanted to do was, one, they had a guy, Dr.
	Fauci, in place who could sell this stuff.
	They were going to make billions and billions of pounds.
	Which they did.
	Which they did.
	And they didn't really...
	They really cared.
	I don't think...
	In a way, I don't think it was manufactured with a specific purpose.
	It was just manufactured to convince people, particularly if you had Fauci in place...
	To take it.
	Well, do no harm just went out the window, didn't it?
	Yeah, it did.
	Absolutely.
	Well, this is all about profit.
	Yeah, it is.
	I think the minute you mix medicine and money, you are really badly.
	Yeah.
	Last year, I was chatting with a guy on Twitter, and he was slagging me off, which is fairly cool.
	And he was a scientist of some description.
	And I said to him, so who's paying for your opinion?
	He just came back and said British Aerospace.
	He actually put it in a tweet.
	Didn't have a problem with it.
	He just admitted it.
	Well, I mean, to be fair, on all the American media, they do have sponsored by Pfizer.
	Yes, they do.
	So, I mean, I guess at least we know.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Somebody was suggesting with MPs in the House, they should all wear T-shirts like footballers.
	Yes.
	And with their sponsors on the back, so that we know who they're speaking for.
	I would prefer a bit more transparency, but it wouldn't matter, would it?
	Nothing had changed.
	No, that's the problem.
	I think their contempt for us is so huge.
	They don't care what we think or how they show themselves.
	I think we've gone past that point.
	Yeah, I think that's true.
	I think that's absolutely true.
	Anyway, so it turns out that almost all footballers are vaccinated, which is not good news if you've got a spike protein being produced by your body that may attack your heart.
	Right.
	Which may well explain where all of the heart attacks that footballers are suffering from comes from.
	If you go to the next one, we covered this in, again, another podcast we have to do on the website because you can't put this anywhere else.
	And again, that's another very suspicious question, isn't it?
	Why can't we talk about this in public, on the mainstream platforms, if there's nothing to hide?
	If there's nothing to hide, exactly.
	And also, if they are convinced of their facts, they should have no problem defending them.
	Exactly.
	But clearly they do.
	You would just have a normal person, a normal scientist who sits down and just openly just, you know, accepts the most rigorous interrogation from the expert on the other side.
	And again, the fact that there are no experts on the other side because they've all been depleted.
	Exactly.
	You know why.
	We end up with people like Dr.
	Hilary Jones.
	I mean, good lord.
	I mean, they've never once...
	He's on some morning show.
	I don't know which one it is.
	They've never once thought, I know, let's get in...
	Another doctor.
	Yeah, let's get in Dr.
	Sledger or Carl Hennigan.
	Let's get someone else in and have a chat against the two of them and see how it goes.
	I mean, Robert Malone, the fact that he got deprived, for me, that was just so right.
	When you read, as I've been, I mean, there's still loads to learn, but when you read the efforts that people like Peter McCulloch went to, To establish early treatment and to prevent hospitalizations and all that.
	And the wall they came up against, they weren't congratulated at all.
	They were just a problem.
	Well, I mean, and again, this brings back the ivermectin point.
	Okay, vaccines are one method of dealing with a problem, but for those people who have COVID and who are in hospital right now, wouldn't you want a treatment for them?
	And no, we can't talk about ivermectin.
	Ivermectin is now stigmatized in the media.
	Joe Rogan is a lunatic for his doctor describing him ivermectin.
	It's like, what the hell's wrong with you?
	It's a treatment.
	Exactly, exactly.
	So anyway, it must be money.
	Yeah, it was money.
	And the key thing was to the pharmaceuticals, the last thing they wanted was cheap repurposed drugs working.
	It's the last thing they wanted.
	They wanted all that to be shoved aside so that everybody would depend and demand their vaccine, which is going to fill their coffers.
	It's that simple.
	I don't see why people can't join the dots.
	I don't get it.
	Remember in the house when Matt Hancock said that vitamin D, we're looking into it.
	David Davis asked Johnson the question.
	I thought it was Matt Hancock who said, we're looking into it.
	No?
	It was Johnson, was it?
	He was looking into that girl's brows.
	Knickers.
	Oh no, it was up her skirt.
	Did you see that recent thing where Matt Hancock was being, he was in a very informal setting and he says something like, well, you know, I've been criticised a lot, you know, anyone with any questions and you want to criticise me.
	One guy just goes right in and says question one, question two.
	And the typical politician said, let's deal with question two first.
	Why can't you deal with question one?
	And basically, Matt Hancock can't deal with it.
	He's embarrassing and just basically shuts the guy down because he doesn't have the information because the information is not there, probably.
	I mean, Matt Hancock's a freak anyway.
	Have you ever seen him standing next to a woman?
	It's the weirdest thing in the world.
	It's like, Matt, do you actually have an erection?
	What's wrong with you?
	I've seen that picture.
	I've seen that.
	Very odd.
	So bizarre.
	Yeah, it's got a David Brent moment about it, doesn't it?
	Everything he does.
	And what's the stance?
	Have you seen that?
	They've all got the legs apart.
	Yeah, the power stance.
	Yeah, the power stance, you know.
	Savage Avid and one of the Miliband brothers.
	And they point with their thumbs.
	Well, that was the thing with Blair.
	To tell that Blair never meant anything he said, because when he banged the table, he didn't bang it.
	He did that.
	It was this, wasn't it?
	It was a girly thing.
	He never really did it.
	Yet another reason not to trust Blair.
	Anyway, so it turns out that there's a 278% increase in heart attacks among football players in 2021 alone.
	I mean...
	Like, I mean, you must have seen the memes going around.
	Oh, look, having a shower might cause heartache.
	Digging your garden might cause heartache.
	Tight socks.
	Tight socks.
	Playing football.
	It's like, sorry, are the 20-somethings getting heart attacks normally?
	I mean, if you scroll down just so you can see the graph, John...
	Right?
	It's just, come on.
	Oh my God.
	Look at that, look.
	Come on.
	So what happened in 2010?
	What that was?
	Well, that's a good question.
	Who knows?
	Oh, it might have been the, maybe the, no, 2008 was the crash, wasn't it?
	Yeah, no, I have no idea, but the point is, there's something fishy going on.
	Yeah, there is, yeah.
	That is odd, isn't it?
	In particular, 2020, almost the lowest on the ground.
	Well, that's no one playing football, is it, because of the lockdowns?
	Ah!
	But that's still trading, though, wouldn't it?
	No, we're not.
	Maybe not.
	I mean, who knows?
	But anyway...
	That's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	So let's go to the actual VAERS data, which is just...
	I mean, it's tragic.
	So, so far, this is in the United States.
	Right.
	Nearly 30,000 dead from the vaccine.
	30,000?
	30,000.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's...
	In any other time or place, that's a massacre.
	That's a war crime.
	Yeah.
	That's terrible.
	You know, 170,000 hospitalizations, 132,000 in urgent care, 200,000 doctor visits, nearly 10,000 anaphylactic shock, 15,000 belt palsy.
	I mean, really?
	I wonder what the normal figures are.
	Oh, much lower.
	In fact, John, if you click on the deaths, then we can actually, it gives you a graph.
	Just click on the deaths one for you.
	Oh, okay.
	Deaths reported to theirs by vaccines.
	These are vaccine deaths per year.
	Oh my god.
	Just no one dies from vaccines.
	And if you think about it, a vaccine isn't actually an mRNA experiment.
	A vaccine is a portion of the dead virus.
	Yes.
	These vaccines aren't vaccines.
	Well, exactly.
	It's something else.
	And it's an experiment.
	And so it's just very strange, isn't it?
	But if you can go back just to the main page.
	That's extraordinary, isn't it?
	Staggering, isn't it?
	Amazing.
	If you can go back to the previous page, John, just so we can see those stats again.
	Sorry, can you get up?
	There we go.
	50,000 myocarditis, 55,000 permanent disabled, and 15,000 just open heart attacks.
	This is bad.
	It is.
	This is really bad.
	I mean, they were talking about...
	I can't remember what the illness was.
	They were treating with the vaccine many years ago.
	And they had 50 deaths as a consequence of this vaccine.
	And they withdrew it.
	Yeah.
	As you think.
	But now we're still...
	And I was in a chemist the other day.
	Literally, just four or five days ago, and on the counter, they've got this NHS sticker, Get Boosted Now, with an NHS logo on the top.
	The NHS has been completely compromised by this government.
	It can't be trusted now.
	Whether I had COVID or not, I'm not sure, because I never had the associated taste thing and all that.
	But when I was in there, they could have given me...
	The jab.
	They could have done without me knowing.
	And so I'm very, very distrustful now of the NHS because it's become so politicised.
	And it's not unreasonable.
	There's so much money behind it.
	And it's not just money as well.
	It's also like...
	Kudos.
	You know, credit.
	Like Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock.
	What was the freaky looking guy?
	Chris Whitty.
	Oh!
	You know, the weird looking, you know.
	Yeah, the big forehead.
	Yeah, exactly.
	When does he ever get attention?
	Yes.
	Right?
	When does he ever get attention?
	Until now, the entire country is genuflecting before him.
	Oh, Dr.
	Whitty, please save us from this virus.
	And suddenly, he's incredibly important.
	And the media's getting clicks.
	They've got, oh God, I need to go to the BBC on Sky to find out what the latest thing about that.
	And so you can see how it's in everyone's interest that there is a pandemic.
	There's so much money flowing.
	There's so much kudos flowing.
	One of the most interesting things in America with private hospitals, the money that they were given, not only per COVID patient, but per ICU COVID patient.
	They were given money per COVID patient, but then if that patient was transferred to ICU, they got a bit more money.
	It's a totally perverse incentive.
	Back in the day in China, which I thought was way before Xi Jinping and all that nonsense, back in the day, you only paid your doctor when you were well.
	That's a good system.
	Isn't that a good system?
	That's a really good system.
	That's the correct incentive.
	Absolutely.
	That's exactly right.
	Anyway, so the vaccine injuries are being reported by doctors, but of course you don't get to see them, and so you have to rely on doctors just using social media.
	I forgot to clip this, John, but can we just play this?
	Just because you can see the...
	Did I clip it?
	Oh, okay.
	Can we play it?
	I thought I'd forgotten.
	It's dangerous, without a doubt.
	And just not being acknowledged.
	I know GB News did a thing on vaccine injury yesterday, but it's the first time, really.
	I can tell you firsthand, having spoken to many, many vaccine injured, you know, there's some horror stories to be told, some horror stories, and they're just not given a space.
	They're just ridiculed, shunned, put into the shadows of society as if they don't exist.
	Likewise, the doctors who speak out about it.
	So it really is dark, dark times.
	Yeah, just giving you this video to give you an update.
	So all the best, everyone.
	Take care and keep up the fight.
	Keep telling the truth.
	Exactly.
	One stop jab is worth all the effort in the world.
	So all the best.
	Take care.
	That's what it's come to.
	Just a regular doctor in a hospital.
	It's been like, guys, this is terrible.
	There's a friend, I won't say his name because he's a doctor, but he was in hospital with COVID. Felt rough, but didn't actually feel ill enough to be in hospital.
	And he's got a ventilator on.
	And some of them unscrew at the back, and you actually have to get someone else to do it, apparently.
	I've never had a ventilator on.
	No, no.
	Anyway...
	Certain doctors have access to an app called PubMed, which you can only get, apparently, if you're a registered doctor.
	So this guy's in hospital, the consultant.
	He's asking the consultant questions.
	The consultant's being very, very standoffish.
	So this doctor gets out his PubMed.
	And starts reading off it and the consultant says, how have you got that?
	I'm a doctor.
	He says, I'm a doctor.
	He said the ventilator came off in 20 seconds.
	He said his treatment and everything changed.
	Oh, within a minute, the whole thing changed.
	He was allowed to look at his notes, everything.
	So the consultant's body language, his tone, everything changed.
	And he was out the next day.
	That's very weird.
	It's very odd, isn't it?
	He knew the tea lady there, do you remember?
	Yes, yes he did.
	He knew the tea lady.
	Because that was the hospital he used to regularly work in.
	Yeah, because he knew her and she knew him.
	And as she's walking past, she says, you need to get out of here, they're going to kill you.
	She actually sent it to him.
	She actually sent them to Jesus Christ.
	Yes, she did, yeah, yeah.
	Anyway, let's carry on.
	So the German government has acknowledged that, according to Toby Young and Daily Skeptic, doing the Lord's work, Toby, that the COVID vaccines cause serious injury for one in 5,000 doses, but its own data shows it's one in 300 doses.
	Oh, my God.
	Whoa.
	So, yeah, I mean...
	Whoa!
	It's just...
	And you see these protests.
	I couldn't find the one in...
	I saw in France and Germany.
	There were...
	I couldn't find the videos in time for the podcast.
	But it's just regular people who have gone outside and posting, like, hearts, like, you know, on a thing for each person who's died.
	Oh, yes, I've seen them.
	And you see, yeah, the long list of them.
	Stuff like this.
	Yeah.
	And this is a protest that went on in London.
	That's right.
	We missed this because we were away.
	We were away, yeah.
	I didn't even know about it.
	Yeah, I knew about it the day before, but I was in Spain, busy packing my fat up.
	But it's just one of the, I mean, these are, you know, people who've, like, been impacted by this, which is the only reason you get out of it.
	Massive.
	No media coverage.
	No.
	You wouldn't have known about it.
	No.
	I think the degree to which the media has been complicit in this whole thing as a general rule is absolutely scandalous.
	It really is.
	I think the BBC is ripe for repurposing.
	I think it should be abolished.
	I haven't paid my license, which is the first time I haven't.
	My thing is, there are certain things for the BBC that I would pay for.
	Regional radio, I think, do a good job.
	And documentaries do it.
	But BBC Sport, I never watch it.
	BBC Politics, forget it.
	I'm not paying for this blanket fee so they can pay that idiot salesman for crisps, whatever his name is, you know, a million pounds a year.
	I think it's nearly 2 million.
	Is it really?
	1.7 million.
	Also, I think it's disgusting.
	The BBC ought to have the balls to say, if you want to work for us on Air Talent, this is what you get paid.
	You don't get more than...
	We cap it.
	Yeah, you cap it.
	And if you don't like it, go commercial.
	I mean, there's a part of me that wants to say, okay, Ham, we could do that.
	Or we could say, right, since everyone has to pay the fee, the license fee payers get to vote to who's going to be a presenter.
	Because imagine the presenters you'd get then if we democratise the BBC. I want the Tommy Robinson Sunday afternoon show.
	That's what I want.
	He pays his licence fee, I don't doubt, so come on.
	That would be interesting.
	That would be very, very interesting.
	Anyway, so it looks like no one's going to get compensation, unfortunately.
	I mean, this is a recent article by Reuters.
	In America, they have something called the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, which people who have been injured by the vaccines have been appealing to, saying, well, look, we need some kind of reference for this.
	They have denied about 90% of the petition since their inception in 2010.
	But the thing is, from like 2010 to 2020, they only had like 500 cases to decide, because vaccines were actually, before this new vaccine, They were pretty safe, that's right.
	You know, as you saw in the previous one with the vaccine deaths, there's virtually none because there was nothing weird going on about them.
	You know, they weren't pumping out a spike protein that attacked the heart.
	But now it's drowning in the spiking claims, which is interesting.
	How many claims now?
	Thousands.
	They've got 4,500 just pending with thousands more being alleged and things like this.
	By their calculation, it'll take 38 years to get through the backlog.
	No.
	It's a bit like trying to get a new passport.
	Yeah, it is, yeah.
	Christ almighty!
	And there's probably a reason for this.
	Did you ever see the alleged leaked Pfizer contract?
	No.
	Right.
	So this was from Albania and Brazil.
	There was an alleged contract that the government signed with Pfizer.
	I heard about it.
	I saw this on Telegram, I think.
	Now, we can't confirm the veracity of this, but when you actually look through the document, it looks like a real contract.
	Right.
	And it's long as well.
	So if someone faked this...
	Right.
	Okay.
	But, um, but here's a quote from it.
	The purchaser agrees, hereby agrees to indemnify, defend and hold harmless Pfizer from any and against all suits, claims, actions, demands, losses, damages, liability, settlements, penalties, fines, costs, and expenses.
	So do what you want.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And in fact, can you scroll down to the end of this article?
	Because they give us a really nice summary.
	To summarize, they acknowledge their product may not work, they might have harmful side effects, unknown side effects.
	They recognize that they're likely to be sued if that's the case, and it ensures the legal protection of their huge profits.
	I was like, sorry, it's disgusting.
	It is, absolutely.
	It's disgusting.
	It's extraordinary.
	Right from the beginning, I still can't understand why people couldn't join the dots.
	That, to me, still is a mystery as to why so many people can't see the connection between Fauci, Big Pharma, profits...
	Or government.
	Government, media.
	Yeah, it's all...
	Join the dots, man.
	I assume it's because there's so much information that's suppressed...
	Because we have to go out of our way to find them.
	The regular person is just making their dinner with the news on.
	They don't get to know them.
	Is it the case, do you think that broadcasters like the BBC, as an example, who apparently get money from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, do we think, because one of the stories I heard was that at the very beginning, Ofcom were instructed To tell broadcasters that if they peddled a story that wasn't part of the main narrative, they might lose their license.
	I heard that.
	That's what we heard.
	If Con could take away the BBC's license.
	If the BBC... So my question therefore is, why is the press being so compliant?
	There has to be a reason.
	And either it's because they're fearful of losing their license if they don't, or they're bought and paid for.
	It's something.
	I mean, it could be a combination of those factors as well.
	I think it's a combination, yes.
	I think there's another aspect as well.
	Because I've noticed that in the last, say, decade or so, and I think this is because of the rise of social media, essentially journalism has become the parroting of the government's own press releases.
	Very much so.
	And so it's very easy for them to just knock up an article, include a couple of tweets, put the government's press release in it, I haven't even left my office.
	Am I a journalist at this point?
	And I think they were essentially trained into that, into the accepting of authority as the source of truth and legitimacy, which is the opposite of what a journalist was.
	A journalist used to go and actually do some investigating.
	He was sceptical of the power.
	Also, what we found, we did a little experiment going back about 2015.
	What was when we did those acoustic shows?
	Oh, about 15 years.
	Yeah, 2015.
	So we were doing some acoustic shows.
	And we had some new management and some...
	Anyway, what we thought was we'd introduce I'm Too Sexy and we did it as...
	It's been proved by The Lancet that after peer-reviewed studies and years of data, I'm Too Sexy is actually the greatest and most perfect pop song ever written.
	It's proved by science.
	Who can contest that?
	Right.
	And it's been proved by science.
	We had people coming up in their droves saying, have you got that article?
	Where's the article?
	Where's the article?
	Honestly.
	I'm serious.
	Our manager.
	We had people...
	I'm absolutely serious.
	Because we said it, because we said it, they believed it.
	And we used the word Lancet.
	And we used the word Lancet.
	We said peer-reviewed and scientists.
	It's like dog whistles.
	It is.
	Dog whistles.
	I heard the good words.
	It's extraordinary.
	One other thing on that note.
	We've done a few corporate shows because it tends to fund tours because corporates are very well paid.
	Were.
	Yeah, were.
	And we did one for a company, and I actually can't remember the name.
	Oh, they're called Lioness.
	Lioness.
	And the guy who owned it, he was there, and it was one of the best and biggest corporates we've ever done.
	And he said, would you mind just doing this in between shows?
	Which is the L. Which is the L song.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So Richard said, he asked Richard, he said, yeah, sure, there was about 4,000 or 5,000 in the hall.
	And so after whatever song it was, Richard went, hey, it's great to be here, part of Lioness, and just did this.
	They all stood up.
	It was a rally.
	It was like a cult.
	It was extraordinary.
	I kept doing it.
	I couldn't stop it.
	Not a single person didn't do it.
	Were you like...
	Yeah.
	It was wild.
	The power was absolutely staggering.
	It really caught us by surprise because we've been asked to do loads of these different things and they say, oh, can you say happy birthday to John?
	And you'll get people going, oh, yeah.
	But...
	Did this sign and without failure, everyone did it the whole time.
	It was like something, it was like a cult rally.
	It was extraordinary.
	Just to treat the triggering of people was surprisingly easy.
	And the thing that's also surprised me through this whole affair has been artists and performers that I've grown up with thinking they were really cool.
	You realise they're actually a complete twat.
	Just fake twat.
	You realise that Paul McCartney, as talented as a songwriter he is, he's actually a bit of a twat.
	Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, they're all twats.
	Because they bought into this without really questioning and thinking for themselves.
	I thought you were going to say Bono.
	He's been a twat forever.
	Yeah, he has.
	I think he was born a twat.
	My position with it is, with the Stones, they said, we've been vaxxed, in our opinion, that's the way to go.
	Don't tell Charlie that.
	I don't recall them ever saying, you get vaxxed.
	But Paul McCartney said, be cool, get vaxxed.
	Now, I think that's where the line is crossed.
	Be cool, do what the government tells you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, sorry, watch it.
	It was like Rage Against the Machine.
	Oh my God!
	Oh my God, don't even get me started.
	See, I used to love Rage Against the Machine.
	You know, like 20 years ago, I'd be in the clubs, dancing always, Rage Against the Machine, thought it was brilliant.
	And now watching it, it's just like, this is embarrassing.
	It is, isn't it?
	Really embarrassing.
	$200 for a concert ticket and do what the government tells you.
	I was a big fan of Tom Morello and his Nightwatchman project as well.
	And now I'm just looking and thinking, you are such a fake.
	What a shill.
	What an absolute shill.
	Of all the bands though, it's one thing like non-political bands being a bit establishment shitting.
	I can understand that.
	I'm raising his machine.
	I know.
	I mean, look at the name.
	Exactly.
	It's just, oh, it's such an embarrassment.
	I saw posters of The Damned, I think it was, last year, and they were wearing masks on the poster.
	And I just saw, what are you clowns doing?
	Honestly, I'm just pleased that Johnny Rotten's still like, nah, fuck him.
	Yes, yes, yes, exactly.
	The one guy.
	I agree.
	I completely agree.
	No, more power to him.
	Absolutely more power to him.
	And in all fairness to Clapton and Jim Core and Van Morrison and there's Five Times August, Matt Hoy.
	There's quite a few out there who have been speaking their mind.
	Yeah, Busta Rhymes and they're just saying, this is crazy.
	Yeah.
	Shite.
	But we get, also we get on the socials and stuff, we get other musicians saying, you know, well done for speaking out because I can't.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But it's that attitude that makes it happen.
	Yeah, it is.
	You know, if you all stood up at once, that's it.
	Well, that's exactly right.
	One thing that really surprised me when we did the marches, there was no, the MU wasn't there.
	No.
	Equity.
	Equity weren't there.
	Now, I think, given the number, in terms of MU, given the number of performers, MU performers that have been badly hit in the last two years, they should be out there with a huge MU banner walking down the street.
	I couldn't understand it.
	I couldn't understand why they weren't there.
	I sent them an email, and they said, yes, we understand what you're saying, but we're working behind the scenes.
	What does that mean?
	And equity didn't even get back to me.
	Well, you know what that means.
	That means, look, you're right, but come on, guys, I've got a tour of money and I don't want to get in trouble.
	If I just do what I'm told, they'll leave me alone.
	They will never leave you alone.
	No, they will never leave you alone.
	Exactly right.
	Anyway, let's move on to everyone's favourite clown.
	Boris Johnson.
	Boris!
	Before we start, if you'd like to come and work with us, we're actually expanding.
	Hey!
	Yeah, I know.
	Being dissidents is actually something that's...
	Paying off.
	Yeah, it's actually working until we get deplatformed, of course, until we get cancelled.
	But until then, if you want to come and work with us, go to lodacies.com forward slash careers, and we would like talented and intelligent and...
	Well-read writers and presenters to send us emails with job descriptions.
	I don't think we should bother, Fred.
	No, we shouldn't.
	You can't put a price on charisma.
	That's what I always say.
	Thank you for that.
	So let's begin with Boris.
	So the interesting thing about Boris's downfall is that it wasn't a popular downfall.
	No, not amongst the members.
	It was an inside coup.
	It was almost like Caesar getting stabbed in the Senate, wasn't it?
	Yes.
	The only thing I would say about that is I agree that obviously it would seem that Rishi Sunak has been working behind the scenes.
	It seems that way.
	Yeah, but having said that, if Johnson had been true to his former self, he would still be in number 10.
	I think so.
	The problem is he brought his own demise upon him by being a liar.
	by being chaotic and weak and weak and not standing up for fundamental principles that I thought a conservative prime minister should absolutely do he never once talked about bodily integrity he never once talked about you know the right to dissent he never once talked about you know a broad spectrum of opinion let's ask these two guys next slide please No time for it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because you know, he's been in politics a long time.
	We've got to read all of his articles that you've had in The Spectator and The Telegraph.
	So you know what his instincts are.
	You know his instincts are fundamentally in our camp.
	Exactly.
	And it's like, look, Boris, the fact that you bent the knee on all of this, you knew that was wrong.
	You knew it was wrong.
	And so I'm not even angry, I'm disappointed.
	Yeah, no, I agree with you.
	I agree.
	It's sad.
	It was sad.
	But the point is, Boris was ousted by an internal coup.
	Yes, yes.
	And this is very interesting.
	And so people have been approaching people like Rishi Sunak saying, well, you stabbed him in the back, didn't you?
	It's like, yeah, you did, didn't you, Rishi?
	We'll get to the next one.
	Rishi was accused of stabbing Johnson in the back as he was grilled by voters at the first official hustings with Tory members in Leeds, which must have been unpleasant for Rishi.
	Oh, horrible.
	Yes.
	He's got to meet ordinary people.
	It must be ghastly for him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, The thing is, it's the Conservative Party.
	Of course they don't hang out with working class people all the time.
	No, absolutely not.
	But with Rishi Sunak, it just becomes so palpable that he is from somewhere else.
	He is, yeah.
	He's from a very, very posh place with lots of money, and he doesn't have your problems, your common person problems.
	He also doesn't care.
	I think David Icke knows where he comes from.
	Yeah.
	I think he does.
	The outer ring of Saturn.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, no, this member said, look, many people see that you stabbed him in the back, which you clearly did.
	And so they don't really want, you know, the Brutus of the Conservative Party in number 10, which is fair.
	Do you think that they're even going to get their say if you go down the route of the WF? Or do you think WF have got it covered because Liz Truss is one of them as well?
	Well, that's the point, isn't it?
	I was going to come on to that, but yeah, I mean, like, the problem is the Conservative Party is a WEF-compromised party.
	Yeah, they are.
	There's just no getting around it.
	It's terrifying, to be honest, because, you know, here's your choices, Rishi Sunak or distrust.
	I know, I know.
	But I think what it seems to me, if you...
	Politics in this country has become such a shallow version of what it was, and we did used to have in this country some really profound thinkers.
	We really did, before Blair.
	John Smith, actually, is a good example.
	Peter Shaw.
	Peter Shaw.
	Tony Benn.
	Enoch Powell.
	Enoch Powell.
	Brighton.
	You watch the debates with them, and whether you agree with them or not, the quality of conversation, whether you agree with them or not, they can at least make their arguments.
	Boris Johnson signs off his resignation in the House by saying, hasta la vista.
	He didn't.
	Yes, he did.
	We'll talk about that, actually, because that's the purpose of this segment.
	Oh, gosh.
	I didn't know that.
	What a twat.
	Well...
	It's interesting because Hasta La Vista means I'll be back.
	It does, yes.
	But what he thinks he's doing, like when he said oven ready and all that, you know, flatten the sombrero.
	He thinks he's connecting with ordinary people.
	I'm a Bullingdon Club guy and I know how to talk to ordinary people because I know what a microwave is and I know what a sombrero is and I know how to quote popular films.
	He's just faking it.
	It's a complete fake.
	I'm sure it is, but you can't deny that it worked.
	Well, it worked.
	It got him into number 10.
	Yeah.
	But what we need in number 10, and Sunak's not going to provide it, nor is Truss, nor is Johnson.
	We need somebody who stands up for really important, fundamental democratic principles.
	Yeah.
	With no shimmy-shamming around, no equivocation, absolutely.
	And if anything comes across that threatens those principles, you say no.
	It's really simple.
	It's not...
	To me, there's a set of traditional British values, moral values, that are actually completely at odds with the way things are going now.
	Criminals should be punished.
	Really, they should be punished.
	Obviously, we should defend our borders.
	We should enforce our laws.
	Laws should be made in this country.
	And this sort of set of values, you can commit to this and know that at least Macron's going to hate you, Merkel's going to hate you, Joe Biden's going to hate you, Trudeau's going to hate you, but the British public will love you for this.
	And that's what Boris was appealing to and totally reneged on.
	Yes, he did.
	It's just like Boris.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Boris.
	I agree.
	We've only got to listen to his dad to know where he comes from.
	That doesn't fall, the fruit doesn't fall from the trees.
	His father lives in France now.
	He's exchanged his passport, hasn't he?
	Yeah, he's in French.
	I did not know that, but I'm not sure.
	I think he does.
	I think he does, yeah.
	And he's horrible.
	He's horrible.
	Anyway, so it's interesting how you've got people like William Hague who write articles in The Times saying, well, Boris is going to come back for revenge.
	And to be honest with you, I kind of hope he does.
	Like, I don't like any of the Tories at this point.
	No, not do I. I think he might do the, what's that Chinese saying, hide and bide, where he lets Truss or Sunak just weather the storm for the next 18 months, and then come to 2024, he'll be back in.
	Maybe.
	And it's one of those things where it's like, look, you guys did this and it wasn't in the sort of popular will, you know, because whether we, you know, people who are very engaged in politics have opinions on Boris and they're not good opinions, but the regular person who just sees him as being an essentially sort of pro-British conservative...
	I think he's still popular.
	Oh, he is.
	Absolutely.
	That's the thing.
	And so it's just like, this feels like a betrayal from the people who are the regular people who aren't invested in this every day.
	But anyway, so William Hague says, well, look, essentially, if the collective wisdom of British PMs is to be believed, every single one of them condemns their predecessor, which implies they're all getting worse as time goes by, which is a great point by William Hague, actually.
	But he says that the Conservative Party had no choice but to remove Johnson because, you know, he was terrible.
	But Johnson's the kind of person who he thinks is going to nurse a grudge over this.
	And I think he probably is.
	Like Heath.
	Yes.
	I think he probably is.
	And I think that's what was behind him saying, has still a vista baby when he was in the parliament.
	We'll go to the next one.
	He gave his little speech at the end where he was saying, well, look, you know, stay close to the Americans, stick up for the Ukrainians in this...
	I mean, that's a good example, I think.
	Do you remember the time, Fred mentioned this to me, when David Cameron was PM, or when he was...
	No, he was campaigning.
	And he chained up his bike to a bollard.
	Right.
	So, which means you can just simply lift the bike up.
	What that tells you is he's got no street now.
	He doesn't understand.
	He doesn't understand the street.
	Or common sense.
	Or common sense.
	He doesn't get it.
	And that's true of Johnson.
	I truly think.
	He thought that all his game playing when he was London Mayor would work in number 10.
	Running a city is not the same as running a country.
	And when you're running a country, you've got to be serious.
	You've got to be serious and thoughtful and consistent and brave.
	And he's none of those things.
	Yeah, that's unfortunately true.
	He's got a good facade.
	Like when you talk to him, he's a charismatic guy.
	He's entertaining to listen to.
	But as you say, you know, like underneath, you know, lift up the hood and he's just absent.
	Yeah, there's not much there, is there?
	No.
	There's an element of the Trump about him, I think, which is...
	He should have leant into it.
	Yeah, when I'm looking through speeches to watch, I mean, there's a few speeches by Biden, but they're usually just funny.
	And because he falls over and misses...
	But if you want entertainment, it's Trump you go for.
	Now, Trump's made some really bad decisions when he was president, particularly the withdrawal from Afghanistan and all that stuff.
	But what I think a lot of the American people, he appealed to the fact, it's what you were saying earlier, you want a British politician that appeals to the fundamental rights and British people.
	It feels like he's on your side.
	Yeah, it feels like he's on your side.
	And in the end, I didn't think he was...
	No.
	Well, clearly he wasn't.
	No.
	The lockdowns, he should have just come out on day one and be like, look, everyone's telling me I've got a lockdown, but I can't.
	Yeah.
	I'm the Prime Minister of Great Britain.
	I'm not the Prime Minister of China.
	No, exactly.
	You know, there's no way an Englishman would ever accept me locking down the country, so I can't do that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, that's what he should have said, and he should be like, look, so, you know, I mean...
	You make the decisions for yourself.
	We'll make it so that you can't be fired if you want to isolate or something like that.
	You could have put in a bunch of different things, so it's your choice as an individual, which would have been the right and British thing to do.
	But no, he went for lockdown.
	Sorry, but that steps into the whole thing.
	If it's globalism...
	Which, it feels like it to me, then his loyalty is with the globalists and not with the people.
	And what we were talking about earlier, if you imagine yourself as a tyrant, that's what you do as a tyrant.
	You lock your country down.
	And also, even if we assume, let's assume for the sake of argument that he's not, If he was more familiar with some of the early research done by people like McCulloch and Dr.
	Rich and all the others, he would understand that lockdown is about the worst thing you can do.
	Well, yeah, I mean, history showed that was a bad move.
	He was so ignorant and so obviously hypnotized by SAGE or whatever.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Oh, man, now you've got me standing on SAGE. SAGE is a communist group, literally run by communists.
	Yes, Susan Litchie.
	They're now working at the WHO as an accountant.
	Multi-millionaire communists.
	Yeah.
	Who have got mansions and estates, and they're like, right, so you now, single mother in your one-bedroom flat, you've got to stay in your house for six months.
	Yeah, with your autistic child.
	Yeah, you don't know how awful that is.
	No, exactly.
	And they don't care.
	No, it's not their problem.
	And if you go back to they actually want us vulnerable and needy and poor, well, that's what lockdowns do.
	Yeah, I mean, if you want to funnel money from small business owners to mega corporations, This is what you're doing.
	You tell the small business owners they can't trade.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	How else would you do?
	Yes, exactly.
	You leave Walmart open.
	Exactly.
	I'm much more aware now when I order from Amazon.
	I think about it much more now.
	I'm thinking, actually, I could get that from retail.
	Yeah.
	The problem with retail is we went into JD Sports.
	It's bloody awful.
	Some retail experience is absolutely awful.
	Horrible.
	We have to queue up for about half an hour to pay.
	Yeah.
	You know, and it's just, and there's nobody to ask.
	They're all walking, they're all on their headphones and talking to their mates.
	There's a reason that Amazon's cleaning up.
	Exactly.
	It's a good service.
	It's a great service.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I was in boots the other day.
	There's new boots.
	You look better in high heels, I think.
	Thank you very much.
	And the prescriptions are on the first floor.
	So you have to go up an escalator.
	So a little old lady was in front of me on her walker frame.
	She went up the escalator.
	And the only way down is a lift, but the lift was broken.
	So they'd really thought this through, hadn't they?
	Well, she's supposed to.
	Exactly.
	Weirdly, I went up to her and I said, can I give you a hand to try and sort this out?
	And she was actually quite rude.
	So I looked at her and thought, well, screw you, lady.
	No good deed goes unpunished.
	So anyway, the interesting thing about Boris here is saying, has still a vista baby, which means I'll see you later.
	Implying that he...
	Thinks he's coming back, which maybe he will.
	I think he will.
	His ego won't stop him.
	Yeah.
	And the thing is, again, if he was actually going to lean into sort of the Trumpism, you know, be like the...
	Because remember when he first came in, they were like, oh my God, he's going to be the British Trumpist.
	Oh God, please.
	You know, let's have a British Trump, you know.
	If that were the case, I'd be like, brilliant, you know.
	And if he got screwed because he was doing the right thing, rather than doing essentially nothing, then I would have been totally behind him on this, you know, because I'm totally behind Trump, you know.
	God willing, 2024, he smashes him, you know.
	Well, I think mid-sermons will tell us.
	Yeah, I think so, yeah.
	I think so.
	But anyway, I think that the fact that he's been tipped to be the next Secretary General of NATO is kind of an implication that whoever, you know, the power structure behind the scenes is essentially going, right, we need to get rid of him.
	So if we offer him a nice duty, I mean, he's going to be paid really well for this.
	He's going to get to go around to the Ukraine and everywhere else and be very well loved.
	There is grit in this Vaseline for Johnson because there's a retired Army General.
	Who won't support his nomination for the UN because he says he doesn't...
	Is that Lord Danat?
	Yes.
	Yes, I actually have that here.
	You have that there.
	Sorry, sorry.
	No, no, no.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	But yeah, Lord Danat, former head of the British Army, said he wouldn't support Johnson because of his character.
	That's right, yeah.
	And he's like, well, look, he's done lots of good things and he's in full support of Ukraine, but he's also a national embarrassment.
	And it's like, well, to some, you know, to others, they like him.
	I was watching a thing the other day on the...
	It was a lawyer.
	Who was defending some of the detainees in Guantanamo.
	He got a lot of flack for it.
	And he got so much flack in the end that he resigned his job within the army as a lawyer.
	And he's been asked to explain by friends why he did that.
	And he said, I had to decide between being a good person or a good lawyer.
	And I decided to be a good person.
	And he did the right thing.
	And that's why I think politicians need to decide whether they're going to be a good politician or a good person.
	Blair made that decision many years ago.
	He decided to be a good politician, not a good person.
	A brilliant politician, unfortunately.
	And when that lawyer said that, it made me think that that's the fundamental decision you have to make when any difficult decision is put in front of you.
	What do I do?
	Am I a good that or a good that?
	I think things are actually quite simple.
	And in a way, I think we've got...
	We talked about the spike protein earlier.
	We've got a little bit bedazzled by science because I think underneath all this, fundamental principles are really simple.
	Yeah, a lot of them are moral questions.
	Yeah, they're moral questions.
	They are.
	Absolutely.
	And I don't think...
	I think the science of it all has bedazzled us.
	Also, the science of it all can't be trusted.
	No.
	We've discovered that.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, it's...
	Not set.
	That's the thing.
	Not enough time has passed.
	That whole expression, follow the science.
	Well, when Fauci said, I'm the science.
	I know.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, that's literally Emperor Palpatine saying, I'm the Republic.
	Anyway, let's...
	Before we get...
	Delete it off YouTube.
	Let's carry on.
	So Boris has been, we've been told that he wants to carry on as PM, which is obvious because he didn't want to resign.
	But Lord Crudus of Shoreditch says that he wants to fight the next general election as the leader of the Conservative Party, which is hilarious because, I mean, he's the only guy they've got.
	He is.
	Yes.
	Can you imagine Rishi Sadak in a general election?
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	Let's trust in a general election.
	I think in a way, the only thing I'd say about this, people are talking about winning elections.
	He's the only guy that can win elections.
	He's the only...
	And I think if that's our priority, if that's the only thing we measure him by, then...
	What are we doing?
	Well...
	What we actually want is we want men or women of stature, men or women of character and conviction.
	I think Kemi...
	How do you say her?
	Kemi Badenoch, yeah.
	She's the only one I like.
	Absolutely.
	And the Tory party, I think, missed an opportunity with her.
	Absolutely.
	You can see why.
	Because, like, I mean, if Kemi Badenoch will say the sort of, you know, the right-wing things she'll say in public, imagine what her actual opinions are in public.
	So I get the feeling that a lot of the Conservative Party are looking at her going, okay, well...
	I mean, she may have electoral success, because I bet that if she was going around and being like, look, this is what Britain needs to do, because this is what Britain should be like, then everyone would be like, great, okay, brilliant, let's crack on.
	And the Conservatives are going to be like, well, hang on a second, but what about our globalist plans?
	You know, the shadowy Conservatives in the background.
	So I think they're all just like, no, we can't, you know, we can't have her.
	I wonder whether it was just, my instinct was because she was too young, And I don't think her being black was not an issue because I think that would have been perfect for the Tory party.
	But I think too young.
	You might be right.
	The globalism thing might be an issue and her lack of experience for some people.
	But I thought she was great.
	I thought she spoke really well.
	And when she was talking about when she did a public address, you were saying people are sick and tired of lies.
	And it's a really simple thing to say, but it's absolutely true.
	We're tired of it.
	Well, you could see that she was the only person that people actually liked from the results of the actual debate.
	When they all spoke, their approval ratings went down.
	When she spoke, hers went up.
	It's like, well, there we go.
	We've got a person's conviction there because you can always tell authenticity.
	Yeah, you can.
	You can always tell.
	Also, they have to accept the fact that that whole thing is that people aren't elected, they're selected.
	And I think that's what went on here, you know.
	I mean, that's exactly what's gone on.
	Boris didn't get knifed by the public.
	No, no, no.
	Exactly.
	But anyway, so there was a petition that was started by Conservative members and the senior Tories, quote-unquote, whoever they are, at CCHQ, have just been like, no, we don't care.
	So...
	That's it.
	Don't care.
	That's it.
	They just don't care about your opinion, guys.
	So this petition was amongst Tory party members in the country at large?
	Allegedly, yes.
	Right.
	Allegedly.
	Because I always think, I think both parties have done this.
	There was a time when it was just the MPs that voted, wasn't there?
	Yes.
	And I personally think that's a much better system.
	I don't think Tory, just because you're...
	We were talking earlier, you could be a Tory party member, not have a British passport, not live in the UK, not pay British tax, and vote.
	We've actually got that.
	John, do you want to just switch to your tweet quickly?
	There we go.
	Yeah, John actually went and checked this on their own website, which you don't have to be a voter or a UK citizen to vote for the election of the party leader.
	Can you get the head around this?
	That's insane.
	It's insane.
	Nonsense.
	I can't understand how that's legal.
	No.
	It probably isn't.
	Yeah, it probably isn't.
	Who's going to enforce it?
	You don't have to be...
	But in a way, that harks back to what you were saying about criminals should be punished and this kind of fuzzy area of what the legalities of everything are.
	Yes.
	But the morality of it, every British person is like, well, that's wrong.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's wrong.
	It's like the word mandate.
	The word mandate gave everybody the impression it had been voted through in the House and it was law.
	It never was.
	No.
	It never was.
	I was on Twitter and Julie Hartley Brewer had a go at me and she thought masks were law.
	She said, maybe you're happy breaking the law, not wearing a mask.
	And I said, it's not the law.
	And I don't wear a mask.
	And I don't wear a mask.
	And I've done nothing wrong.
	Yeah.
	I mean, don't get me on Julie Hartley Brewer.
	Dreadful.
	I don't dislike Julia.
	I just think the problem is she's in London.
	I think there's an atmosphere in London.
	I think that's true.
	I think that if you were to talk to Julia and she spent some time out of London, she'd be like, oh no, I was wrong on that.
	Because she's not an unreasonable woman.
	No, no.
	We have to disagree on that.
	But she didn't attack me on Twitter.
	But anyway, going back to the Tory leadership debate, I watched a few of these.
	Is this the one where the interviewer waits?
	I think this was the one before that.
	But maybe it's the one.
	But there was one the other day that I was watching, and I can't even remember if it was this one, actually.
	But one thing I noticed throughout the whole thing is that the audience that were apparently made up of Tory party membership had no enthusiasm for either of these.
	And the only round of applause that anyone got was when Rishi Sunak said, well, Boris Johnson did a good job on this.
	And it's like, Boris Johnson is the only guy who gets a round of applause.
	And so that's really revealing, isn't it?
	Yeah, it is.
	Look, he's got his tie off.
	Yeah, like a Blair right here.
	I'm a casual kind of guy.
	All right, Tony.
	What they've also said is that that's what Margaret Thatcher used to wear.
	Yes, yes, she dressed exactly like that.
	She dressed like Margaret Thatcher, yeah.
	But that's the thing, isn't it?
	It's like one guy's cosplaying as Tony Blair and the other guy's cosplaying as Margaret Thatcher.
	It's tragic, isn't it?
	It's embarrassing.
	65 million people and we've got these two clowns.
	Also, there was this thing where the interviewer, in one of the debates...
	The Iron Nanny.
	The Iron Nanny.
	The Iron Nanny, yeah.
	Now, the interviewer passed out.
	Yes, yes.
	And Liz Truss froze.
	What?
	To me, it's pretty surprising.
	Yeah, it is.
	But what's interesting about that, I saw a similar thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Great point, actually.
	That's not leadership.
	No, it's not.
	What you do is you go, oh, my God.
	And you move in.
	You help.
	She showed herself to be indecisive and weak.
	And I saw a similar thing with Obama giving a speech.
	And he was at the lectern.
	And behind him, a girl.
	She was wobbling.
	It must have made the heat or something.
	She was wobbling.
	And then she started to fall over.
	He turned around and grabbed her and held her.
	He took control.
	Yeah.
	And she didn't.
	I mean, I always think about the Ronald Reagan thing, where he's giving a speech around, a balloon pops, so you hear this, and he's just like, you missed me.
	And then carries on, you know.
	Does he?
	Yeah, I've seen that.
	He doesn't miss a beat.
	No.
	And it's just like, you know, that's the kind of politician I want back.
	Someone who's actually elite.
	Absolutely.
	It's that whole thing about the age thing, when he was with Walter, was it Walter Mondale?
	I can't remember.
	Was he all talking about?
	And they were saying, are you too old to be president on the second term?
	Oh, right, right.
	And he said, well, big people say that, but I would never hold my opponent's youth against him.
	Yeah, brilliant, brilliant.
	Just a brilliant comeback.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So, is Boris planning another run?
	The Times have been speculating about this.
	And what's interesting is a bunch of the Red Wall MPs met in the House of Commons, and some were saying things like, is it too late to withdraw my resignation?
	Shouldn't we just bring back Boris?
	Since we've got no one better.
	And so, another one says, I think we may have effed up.
	It's a yes, because Labour are now soaring in the polls.
	13 points up.
	Imagine thinking Starmer's any good.
	I know!
	It's Starmer!
	It's an embarrassment.
	He's got all the charisma of paint.
	I'd rather vote for a used condom.
	I mean, it's just...
	If you're losing to Keir Starmer, then you're not doing this right.
	Personally, if Johnson came back, I'd be more than happy with it, but stick to your beliefs.
	He hasn't got any.
	Well, he did do when he started.
	Yeah, he does.
	He's just a weak man.
	When he was London Mayor, there were lots of things.
	The smoking ban was going to be lifted.
	I'm going to lie down in front of the bulldozers at Heathrow Airport.
	And the ID card.
	Cut it up.
	Cut it up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Come on.
	Let's have that ball.
	If that guy comes back to number 10, I'm more than happy with it.
	But he won't.
	But he probably won't.
	No, he won't.
	But this is what I was saying, Wayne.
	You know, his instincts are in the right place, but he's just too weak to follow through on.
	Do you think it's Carrie?
	Maybe.
	I'm wondering whether.
	Maybe.
	I certainly would say no.
	But if you're a weak person, having instincts don't matter, do they?
	Because you're too weak to see them through.
	That's totally true.
	He was heard talking about buyer's remorse.
	Was he?
	At a private party some months ago.
	Oh, for God's sake.
	Let's move on to our...
	Moving right along.
	Speaking of buyer's remorse, in fact, Britain has joined the enviable ranks of countries that have Drag Queen Story Hour for kids in their local public libraries.
	Oh, God almighty.
	I knew I'd get that response.
	Yeah.
	But before we go on, if you want to support us, you can go over to Lotuses.com and check out my latest Deep Think, which is about Rousseau Savage.
	And you might think, well, hang on a second, what's that got to do with this?
	Well, this is actually connected to why liberalism has produced Drag Queen Story Hour.
	Because you'll notice it's not like Russia that has this.
	It's not Saudi Arabia that has this.
	Oh no, it's the liberal West.
	And it all comes from the total need for the absolute freedom of the will.
	Which is what Rousseau was aiming at.
	So we are living in Rousseau's world now, and Rousseau was an absolute bloody nutter.
	And a terrible man as well.
	So if you want to know more, you can go and sign up and support us for a fiver a month.
	But in the meantime, let's go over to America, where they have...
	Oh, I saw this.
	It's disgusting, man.
	You know the thing.
	This is just...
	And also, what's interesting...
	How to frighten the children.
	Yeah.
	Also, what happened to children's entertainers?
	Oh, look, look, look, look.
	I mean, look at this.
	Yeah, twerking in front of children.
	That's pathetic.
	It's disgusting.
	What we were talking about earlier throughout this whole joining the dots thing is a sickness of mind.
	A spiritual sickness, if you will.
	And we were talking about Father Augustine and his position that he believes this is a black and white issue, a spiritual issue.
	And this is, for me, this is probably the most, the plainest example of a kind of sickness that I've ever seen.
	Our father died in 1988.
	Yeah.
	If he came back and saw this, he actually wouldn't believe it.
	The way we were sexualizing children.
	How could you explain that?
	I mean, what is it?
	What's interesting, though, is that Richard's partner, who died in 2010, worked at Madame Jojo's and cross-dressed for that job.
	I worked in loads of gay clubs.
	Lily Savage and different people would turn up.
	And drag was a very respectable, if you like, and accepted profession.
	Because it was for adults.
	Yeah, because it's for adults, exactly.
	The reason it's on at midnight in a gay club is because it's that demographic.
	You know, the kids are tucked up safely in bed, hopefully.
	And so we grew up in...
	Well, not grew up in...
	We worked in that sort of marginalised world for quite a long time.
	And this is not it.
	This is politicised BS. It is, it is.
	Absolutely.
	And I think sexualising children in this way...
	I think the performers are actually...
	I wouldn't be cheeky enough to say they're paedophiles.
	It's okay.
	I've actually got some examples.
	But I think that there's something profoundly sick about people that want to do this in front of children.
	Now, that's always the question.
	See, now, I'm glad you're hitting that, because a lot of people are like, oh, what's that going to do to the children?
	It's like, yeah, that's a great question.
	We need to ask it.
	Well, why does that person want to do this?
	What's motivating them?
	So, if we go to the next one, you do absolutely get some weird nonsense.
	Oh, no.
	Suck my dick, shamed at Stuart.
	Oh, my God.
	So, this is a – this was – again, we're still in America here, but we'll come over to the UK very shortly – This was Panda Dolce, who hosts Drag Queen Story Hour to children, where she sings songs about children performing oral sex on them and saying, suck my dick to them, which a group of alleged proud boys objected to because they're Nazis.
	And that's the only reason you would ever have an objection to this, because you're a Nazi.
	What on earth are people...
	I don't get this at all.
	It's so beyond my experience.
	Yes, it's disgusting.
	It's just so disgusting.
	And I can't...
	I mean, my partner...
	I was with Stuart for 28 years.
	And he did...
	He was, as Fred said, he was a man of JoJo's.
	He used to wear stockings and the whole...
	Looked fantastic.
	Great pair of legs, I've got to say.
	Fantastic pair of legs.
	But if he was sitting here now, he would not understand this.
	No.
	He understood very clearly what he was doing and where it belonged.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Where it belongs.
	That's a great way of framing it.
	Because it belongs in a particular place and it's in a time for a particular audience.
	And that's adults in a particular club where it's an understood and agreed thing.
	It doesn't belong in a public library with children.
	No, it doesn't.
	That's the thing.
	And the thing is, though, okay, so this person just sings about being a nonce and getting sex acts done by children.
	Really?
	Oh yeah, they just sing about it.
	But there are examples of actual nonces.
	This is great.
	This is Snopes.
	Did a convicted sex offender read to children at Houston Public Library?
	Do you want to scroll down a little bit?
	Yeah, they did.
	Oh, for heaven's sake.
	Even Snopes has got to be like, yeah, Albert Alfonso Garza was convicted of sexually assaulting a boy before taking part in the drag queen story time.
	It's like, then why was he allowed?
	Exactly.
	Exactly, right.
	What is...
	So Gar's a 32-year-old child sex fan in 2008.
	He was convicted of assaulting an eight-year-old boy.
	But it's okay if we just allow him into the library to reach children.
	If he's part of the drag queen story time.
	Makes it look like a...
	As you say, I'm just trying to think, because we've done shows since 1978, but I'm just trying to think...
	I was only born in 79.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm old.
	Be quiet.
	We've been doing this for a long, long time.
	And when I think about all the shows we've done, if we were ever asked...
	Well, we have.
	In fact, we were...
	Excuse me, sorry.
	We used to go to the Great Ormond Street Hospital.
	And we used to go and visit young kids who had gone bald through chemotherapy.
	And they started a thing called Fredhead, which is so we went in to try and make the kids feel better about themselves because they had no hair, we got no hair, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm just imagining going into that situation and trying to sexualize it.
	You didn't twerk in front of me.
	No.
	No twerking.
	No.
	I think you've got to be a really, really damaged individual to do that.
	I really do.
	I agree.
	I think, as you say, the big question is always, what's it doing to the kids?
	I think a bigger question is, what motivates these people to do that?
	And I think we know.
	I think that there is, I mean, I'm not saying that every single one of them is like this, but it's very clear that there is a subsection of the drag queen storytime community that is doing it to get access to children.
	Because otherwise, how would this person have access to it?
	And also, who's rubber stamping this?
	Well, that's...
	Local authorities.
	White liberal women.
	Yes.
	Again, it's very liberal that this is happening in liberal states.
	Right, right, right, right.
	Let's come over to the UK. So we've seen it.
	This is the latest disgusting import from America.
	In 2013, this Robert Clothier, who goes by the name Lady James, turned up for a liaison with Mark and his 8- and 11-year-old, but it turned out to be a police thing.
	So, another nonce playing at this in the UK this time.
	What's the matter with these people, man?
	I think it's literally a way that they get access to kids, because they are nonces.
	He was arrested at Wimbledon train station, along with a box of chocolate flavoured glow-in-the-dark condoms and pink children's underwear from Primark.
	Oh dear, oh dear, what a twat.
	What I find fascinating in a way, when I first moved to London, which was in the early 80s, And I met Stuart in a gay bar in Ells Court.
	So we went to those bars all the time.
	This never happened.
	Ever.
	It never happened.
	Drag queens were never like this.
	There was never that kind of underbelly that you associate with this stuff.
	But they didn't call themselves LGBTs.
	No, it was just the gay scene.
	Yes, it was.
	Because this is, I think, a new thing that's come in as a political angle.
	And hiding behind this, I think, are people who are predatory.
	I don't think this is the gay community.
	I think this is the political community.
	Yeah, no, I think that's true.
	Entering and using the gay community essentially as a shield.
	You hate gays, don't you?
	It's like, no, I hate nonsense.
	Yes.
	I know lots of gay people.
	They're all nice.
	And I know lots of gay people who don't want nonsense around them.
	There's a bit of a gay kickback, isn't there?
	Against Stonewall.
	Yeah, there is.
	As well now.
	It's gone woke.
	Yeah, it has.
	What's interesting, I think, about a lot of lobby groups, when it takes off, the people at the top are all making money because of the subs and everything else.
	They achieve their political aims.
	So theoretically, you disband that lobby, but oh no, I need to make a living.
	I'm invested in this.
	I've invested in this.
	What's the next thing we can have around?
	Oh, trans.
	That's the next thing.
	That's all it is.
	It's just to keep the wagon moving.
	And then it expands into this giant monster, doesn't it?
	So you've got all of these different interest groups that are just fundamentally invested in this overarching thing.
	I mean, you can't stop it.
	No, you can't.
	Anyway, let's carry on.
	So this is...
	Drag Queen Story Hour UK. First summer tour.
	How long has Drag Queen's story been going?
	Does anybody know?
	In America, quite a long time.
	But in Britain, it seems to be fairly new.
	Sorry to interrupt you.
	What were they doing before they turned up at kids' gigs?
	That's a great question.
	I actually don't know.
	I've no idea.
	But this is coming to a town near you, if you just go to the next one, John.
	Just so you can see that this is...
	Sorry, this was in 2019.
	This was first...
	Oh, I see.
	They're still doing it, and it's kicked up a bit of a kickback recently.
	It has, I know.
	Because it's become a bit of an issue.
	Yeah.
	But you can see that you've got various libraries.
	And again, I mean, look at this.
	So why are you doing this?
	I mean, this one isn't as overtly...
	Teaching inclusivity.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Inclusivity.
	This is a dog whistle for left-wing activists.
	So, but why?
	Why not just dress normally?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's fine to teach kids, obviously, but why do you have to do it like that?
	And so it shows that it's not about the children, it's about the person doing it.
	It's about the adult.
	It is, it's about the adult.
	And maybe some of the parents get a kick out of it, I don't know.
	Undoubtedly.
	Yeah.
	Undoubtedly.
	But as Rochdale Library show, they've got it coming to their library.
	This whole, you know, whole tour.
	The people in Rochdale won't be happy with that.
	I'm sure the people of Rochdale are very progressive.
	I don't know what you mean.
	The further north you go, the more sensible people get.
	That's very true.
	But yeah, so this is Ada D, whose real name is Seb something.
	I can't remember off the top of my head.
	But Seb Samuel, who is doing this.
	And again, it just makes you wonder why?
	Why do you need to talk to children?
	Dressed like that.
	Dressed like that, yeah.
	But it's just like what you were saying.
	There are children's entertainers.
	Yeah.
	We've had them for years and years and years.
	And they're not weird.
	And that's all it is.
	They have to go through checks.
	And they have to go through checks.
	Criminal criminal background.
	I bet these guys haven't.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so let's have a look at the kind of books they're reading, shall we?
	And you'll notice...
	It's not a problem.
	These books, we've got a quick description, but the description alone shows you that this is a form of political activism.
	So Emma and Rose are two hedgehogs in love who live in the ground by a bluebell hedge.
	But when Rose runs away, she gets lost and finds herself in a sticky situation.
	It's a story about listening to the experts.
	What?
	Teaching children to uncritically listen to experts.
	Whoa.
	And snot.
	Yes, but I don't really...
	Uncritically listen to experts.
	Uncritically.
	That's the solution to the story.
	They have to learn to listen to the experts.
	Does it say uncritically, does it?
	Well, it doesn't say uncritically, but it's a story about listening to the experts.
	It's like, sorry, I don't actually want to teach my children to rely on authority to pass right and wrong.
	But the next one I think is even more interesting, which is Three Goats United, right?
	When a brown, black, and pink goat tried to cross the bridge to get to the other side, a horrid white beast called Wolf appears to cause trouble.
	Now that is very interesting, because that sounds a lot like intersectional propaganda to me.
	It sounds like a...
	Honestly, the sort of coalition against the white beast.
	Also, you could just say a horrid beast.
	You could.
	The fact that the colour is...
	The colouring is a dog whistle.
	Yes, dog whistle.
	Exactly.
	And that's interesting, isn't it?
	Well, even using brown, black, and pink, you could say, with three goats, John, Paul, and Dave.
	And a normal person would.
	A normal person would individuate them, pick names.
	But in this note, they're classes now.
	Yes.
	So it's the browns, blacks, and the pinks, as in, like, Black Lives Matter, the gay community, and, you know, Muslims or something like that, against the white.
	Yes.
	That's the implication from this.
	And it's like, okay, well, that's interesting.
	But anyway, let's go check out their Twitter account, because, of course, they have a Twitter account.
	Yeah.
	Not a very popular Twitter account, but they do post some interesting things, such as, they say this, the steps LGBTQ people take to become their true selves can be difficult steps to climb, but by the end, we'll be stronger for it.
	If you can go to the next one, John...
	And I find this fascinating because, like, there's nothing authentic about this.
	Like, it's fine if you want to dress up, do all this makeup, but is this your true self or is this, like, massively artificial, hence all the makeup?
	Yes.
	And it's fine if you want to do it.
	I'm not even angry that you do it or anything like that.
	It's just the fiction of it.
	It bothers me.
	Yeah, the whole gay thing, I have never in my life understood why it's such an issue.
	No.
	I've never understood it.
	It's almost as if all straight people think that gay sex is absolutely fantastic and they're jealous and they just want to have a go.
	Gay sex can be pretty rubbish too.
	So I've never understood it.
	That's the side of the narrative you don't hear anyone else, is it?
	I had a friend who was trans, actually.
	And when I met him, he was a sort of six foot one, a very attractive male, and he's now transitioned into a female, and he's married.
	When that happened, this goes back about 15 years, when that happened, it never struck me as being odd.
	We just hooked up for a drink, didn't we?
	We hooked up for a drink.
	It was his decision.
	It was a private decision.
	He's an adult.
	He's an adult.
	He's made his own decision.
	And I completely supported what he wanted to do.
	It never crossed my mind that it should be some kind of quasi-political thing.
	And so to me, being gay has never been particularly interesting.
	Being trans has never been particularly interesting.
	That's a great way of framing it.
	It's just not that interesting.
	It's not that interesting.
	I just get on with blokes better.
	That's it.
	It's not...
	It's not some kind of weird thing.
	It's just, you know, it's actually quite mundane.
	I'm not sure about the use of pride.
	I mean, we've played pride games.
	It's ridiculous.
	You know, and it's like being proud of being straight.
	I'm just straight.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's like being, I'm really proud.
	I'm five foot ten.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know.
	Don't think about it.
	No, it is what it is.
	Gay pride means nothing.
	And so...
	It means nothing.
	The word pride is a very weird choice of word, I think.
	I mean, I think if you go back to the day, the early days of Stonewall, you can imagine that it made some sense there.
	Yes, I'm talking about now, though.
	Yeah, but now it doesn't make any sense.
	Then, of course, being gay had shame attached to it.
	It did.
	And so I can understand the word pride from that point of view.
	But now it's a nonsense, I think.
	Yeah.
	And I went to a gay pride thing when I was living in London.
	I went to a gay pride march.
	I'd never been to one.
	So I just wanted to see what it was like.
	And it didn't speak to me at all.
	Really?
	No.
	Not for a single...
	Lots of coppers in multicoloured hats.
	Oh, God, I can't stand it.
	And BA with their gay...
	Corporate gay pride.
	Yeah, corporate.
	It is gay.
	It is corporate.
	Very subversive.
	Yeah.
	And also, for every single person that was a gay guy or girl that was there, there's another 10 gay people at home across the country looking at that thinking, I don't know what this means.
	This is embarrassing.
	This is not what we are.
	I used to work in gay clubs because...
	People knew my brother was gay, and we worked down the gym a lot, quite beefy at that time.
	I used to get asked to work in gay clubs because they thought I was gay friendly, which I am.
	But it was never, you know, it was never a big deal.
	It's just, here's a bunch of blokes who are coming into a club because they don't want to go to a regular club.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't politicised.
	There was no mistake.
	It was just an event.
	Well, there used to be a gay club not so far around here, and it was just part of our pub crawl.
	Yes, exactly.
	Because no one cares.
	No, no, no.
	Who cares?
	But then the weird thing is, I went out with a guy for about a year after Stuart passed, and he worked in a gay club, and it was open to everybody.
	So straight couples would go in.
	Well, they didn't check you.
	They never used to check me anyway.
	No, but the only people who complained about straight couples going in were gay men.
	Presumably because they were wasting their time having a crack.
	Because we don't want to watch straight people snogging.
	That's a bit weird as well.
	It's like being a Jewish Nazi.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Anyway, let's carry on quickly with the drag queen story time because this was very interesting.
	Love has no age.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	There's a very...
	I mean, they deleted this.
	That's a bad mess.
	I mean, in a way, they're right, but the underbelly, the...
	Subtext.
	The subtext.
	It's weird, isn't it?
	I mean, if you were a paedophile, that's what you'd say.
	Yeah.
	Yes, you would.
	Isn't it maps mutually...
	Yeah, mutually.
	Minor attracted people.
	Minor attracted people, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I watched a thing on TV some years ago about a pedophile, like an operation, a police operation on pedophile.
	And what was interesting with one of the guys, his whole thing was, I don't know what the problem is, because they're tempting me.
	It's their fault.
	It's their fault.
	I don't know why you're going after me.
	It's their fault.
	The whole thing for him was...
	It's interesting, isn't it?
	Because if you go, if you look at a broader view and you buy into the satanic child ritual sex trafficking as an umbrella.
	Jeffrey Epstein thing.
	Yes.
	Jeffrey Epstein and what we're told about some of the elites.
	What was the Temple on His Island about?
	Well, yes, exactly.
	And then you see this, you think, well, maybe with globalism comes this.
	Yeah, maybe.
	You know.
	I can understand why there are lots of people who feel that these things are connected.
	Yes.
	But the point is, you know, they had to delete this because, I mean, it's just a really bad look.
	They did delete it.
	Oh yeah, they deleted this tweet.
	Because it looks terrible.
	And they called it an accidental tweet.
	And it's like, yeah, okay.
	Yeah, of course it was.
	It looks really accidental.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm very persuaded.
	But anyway, so people have been objecting to this.
	People, you know, complaining in Wales, posting leaflets.
	Why are they always far right groups?
	To be fair, in their defence, this actually was.
	It was, was it?
	Okay, I take that back.
	But you are right to say, you know, because, like, in every other case, it's a normal group.
	Yes.
	But this actually was a far-right group.
	But, I mean, it's not wrong to say maybe we shouldn't have this stuff for children.
	I mean, you know.
	Right, right.
	Is that what their leaflet was about?
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	It was just about this, as far as I understand.
	Right, okay.
	I mean, the leaflet read, Drag Queen's Story Hour is yet another attempt to sexualise children.
	Subjecting children to these lessons and forcing them through LGBT indoctrination sessions is nothing short of child abuse.
	Right.
	They're not wrong.
	Right, right.
	They might be a far-right group, but they're not wrong on that.
	Right, right, right.
	Okay.
	But anyway, so three days ago, in fact, there was an event in Reading, and people decided to storm it.
	I think I saw this, yeah.
	Yeah, these weren't the same far-right group.
	These were different people, as I understand it.
	They appear to be mums from Mumsnet.
	Oh yes, that's right.
	Typical far right.
	I mean, it's probably quite far right.
	But yeah, it got quite rowdy apparently.
	And Mr.
	Samuel was escorted out of the event as demonstrators chanted paedophile.
	I mean, I don't know that Mr.
	Samuel is a paedophile.
	I've got no proof of that.
	It's just that he appears to be wearing a paedophile's costume.
	Pedophiles have costumes now?
	They should be easy to spot.
	They wear drag in libraries.
	Oh, I see.
	And if he didn't wear drag in a library, then...
	And he tweets out things like, love is love and love has no age.
	And it's just like, yeah.
	It just looks bad.
	Yes, it does.
	And so, I can understand the mothers who are like, look, you're grooming the child.
	This is disgusting.
	You know, you're doing it for you.
	Like, she accused them of essentially being an autogynophile, which maybe, you know, this isn't about the kids, is it?
	If you want to teach kids, you just sit there normally.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And teach them normally.
	No, you're doing this for you.
	I mean, if you wanted to play devil's advocate, what you would say...
	Is that you're trying to accustom children at a very young age to the reality that some people want to dress like that.
	To the diversity.
	To the diversity they want to...
	But that never happened with you.
	You were fine with it.
	I was fine with it.
	No, I mean, I agree with you.
	It's...
	If, for example, in this situation, it was a children's entertainer with these three ladies, and then the drag queen came in, whatever this guy's name is, and comes in, and they say, this is a drag queen, he's a man who dresses up as a woman, and that's his profession.
	I have no problem with that.
	But twerking and sexualising the performance, I have a...
	My daughter's 24.
	If this just happened to her 15 years ago, I'd go in there with a bat.
	I would, seriously.
	Well, it's much worse than America.
	Now, in Mr.
	Samuel's defence, he doesn't do any twerking.
	No, I didn't say he did.
	That I've seen.
	Yes, okay.
	And I've seen a few videos, and he is just dressed up.
	But the problem is, in America, they didn't begin by twerking either.
	No.
	But that's how it got.
	Yes, yes.
	And it began maybe as something that maybe Mr.
	Samuel is being completely innocent about all this.
	Yes.
	But then maybe a pedophile will see that and be like, oh, if he can do it.
	Yes, yes.
	Like the other one you showed.
	Exactly.
	The one who was arrested at Wimbledon Station.
	Absolutely.
	And the other one that Snopes had to admit in Houston.
	Yeah, that was a nonce.
	Yeah.
	So it's like, okay, well, you know.
	And so I can understand why the mums are like, look, we think you're grooming our children to accept things that I don't think they should be accepting.
	Yes.
	Throughout this conversation, right the way back to Spike Proteins and Boris Johnson and the drag queen thing, The whole thing is about division.
	The underlying, the one common denominator throughout all of this is turning one person A against person B. I think that's what it's about.
	And I think this thing is sad because it gets people that reading children's stories should be a pleasant and easy thing.
	It should be wholesome.
	And it should be wholesome and kind of Kids of that age, they're going to have sex problems throughout their entire lives.
	They don't need it when they're five.
	Yeah, they don't need to know.
	They don't need to know.
	And also growing should be organic, so you can't force information.
	Well, you can, but you shouldn't.
	I mean, my youngest is nearly two, and my middle one's seven.
	My oldest is 12.
	With a 12-year-old, I'm desperately trying to stop her from finding out about anything at this point.
	Isn't it a weird age?
	Oh, it's very strange.
	I remember my daughter, 12 to about 14, you've got this weird transition.
	One minute she's on some really childish computer game.
	And then she's doing her makeup.
	And the next minute she's an adult.
	But it goes back and forth too.
	It does.
	It's very peculiar.
	When we were kids, just very, very quickly, as an example, where the trust thing has gone.
	When we were kids, we went to Ibiza with mum and dad.
	And mum and dad were a young couple then, although I thought they were probably nearly dead, but they were probably quite a young couple.
	And they wanted to go to San Antonio where there were some nightclubs.
	And they put our waiter, who we'd only known for about three or four days, I can't remember.
	Carlo.
	No, I can't remember.
	He was looking after us.
	So we spent the day with him.
	I was probably about nine, Fred was about six.
	And we spent the day, he took us to the seaside and we went swimming together.
	You would never do that now.
	You would never do that now.
	No, because the trust at all sorts of levels has completely disappeared now.
	And the minute I saw coppers having to wear cameras, I didn't think that was a good thing.
	I thought that was a really bad thing.
	Because what that tells you is nobody believes what you say.
	And it's not a good thing.
	Just go back to this.
	It says the group which says its performers are DBS checked.
	Is that database security or something?
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Right, okay.
	So it says they're database checked.
	What does that mean that they are?
	Well, I mean, they claim it.
	I mean, I'm not going to say they're not.
	But again, the problem is this is yet another American import that didn't end well in America.
	And people are objecting to it and actively protesting it.
	There was another one in Bristol that happened, but we'll skip over this quickly.
	What on earth?
	Again, this in and of itself is not actually terrible, but the problem is this isn't isolated.
	It's not in a vacuum.
	It appears to be one stage on a process.
	But also, like, sorry, what, as Fred was saying, if you had the drag queen sitting there, and one of the teachers sitting there reading the story, and then introducing the guy, and saying, this is Carl, this is David, whatever, you know, and this is how he likes to dress, and this is what he does, you approach it in a non-sexual, educative kind of way.
	This is all a bit...
	I don't know, it's just not right.
	Yeah, there's something about it, right?
	I can't put my finger on it, you know?
	But it feels a bit sinister, that's the thing.
	Because, again, it feels like, okay, but even if you are a drag queen, right?
	And, you know, I don't care, you know, I literally...
	No, my other half was a drag queen for years.
	Yeah, I don't care.
	I'm happy for you to be happy and go and have fun in nightclubs and stuff like that.
	Why do you want to do it to children?
	Why do you want this audience?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's the thing that makes me incredibly sus, right?
	Unless they believe that if you get the kids early to accept what they are, they will grow up being much more ready to...
	But we've got a tolerant society anyway.
	I would have thought, you know, I would...
	Where was this?
	Was this Reading?
	This was in Reading, yes.
	This was in Reading.
	Okay, okay.
	Right, right, right.
	And then, you know, there's more protests and things like that in Bristol.
	We're running out of time, so I'll have to stop.
	Okay, okay.
	Right, should we go to the video comments?
	I think we have a few questions for you chaps.
	Oh, okay.
	Goodness me.
	This is very, very, very pro.
	I like this.
	Banded Hands has a new release coming out July 29th.
	Available on Spotify and Audios.
	You know this is some guy advertising as Spotify?
	That's fine, he pays us for it.
	I like that.
	Nice kick drop.
	Available on Audios and Spotify.
	Come join the STOA. And endorsed by Right Side Front.
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	I've been having thoughts regarding the Ligbit movement's rhetoric around coming out of the closet and the mean right-wingers wanting to put them back in the closet.
	You've all seen the Twitter pastas about those mean Christian parents.
	But I'm beginning to wonder if all these people being disowned by their parents isn't because they're gay, but because they're radical American hating Marxists who want to push pedophilia ideology at the dinner table.
	That's a good question.
	That's a very good question.
	It's a very good question, yeah.
	I mean, some parents definitely have a problem with it.
	They absolutely do.
	But I guess also if you were a parent and you had a particularly strong political opinion and you knew your kid was growing up as some kind of fundamentalist Marxist or whatever, then that split happened within the family unit and The child leaving or you actually ejecting the child doesn't become such a big deal.
	But I think if you can imagine some fundamentalist Christian families, for instance, if they were growing up with a son or a daughter that was gay, that would be a major difficulty for them.
	I think that's the real sort of...
	I think that's the heart of it, isn't it?
	Yeah, when the Americans talk about it, because we don't really have that yet.
	No, we don't.
	And so it's just not an issue here.
	But if you were in America and you had, yeah, very God-fearing Christians, I can see how that would be.
	Well, do you remember that hotel thing when the two people, they wouldn't allow the two gay couples, the gay couple, to stay in there?
	No, no.
	Okay, it was a Airbnb, I think.
	Oh, yeah.
	You remember this?
	Bed and breakfast thing.
	Yeah.
	And the husband and wife were very strong Christians and they wouldn't allow, they were renting out their rooms as they would normally do, but on this particular occasion, a gay couple wanted the room and they wouldn't do it.
	because it was under their roof and they didn't approve of gay behavior.
	And there was a huge outcry about this.
	Oh, how terrible.
	This couple are disgraceful.
	I actually thought they were fine.
	It's their house.
	Yeah.
	If they were, if it was the Hyatt, you know, and the Hyatt said, we're not going to let a gay couple stay in it.
	Then it's a corporation.
	It's a big problem.
	But this is their private home.
	And they have a right to...
	It's the same with the cake thing.
	People have a right to make those decisions for themselves.
	We had a kickback.
	We got cancelled by Rough Trade Records doing some installs.
	Agreed to do it.
	Same with HMV. Agreed to it.
	Then changed their minds.
	And we have people saying to us, yeah, but you said this about people having the right to make their own decision.
	The trouble is that with us is that Rough Trade and HMV made the decisions based on lies said by the mainstream media about us in the press.
	They didn't come to us and talk to us.
	They made their decision based on lies.
	It was clearly political.
	Yeah, completely.
	That's right, Sir Fred.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Yeah.
	That's the video.
	That's right.
	Right, it is, yeah.
	I've just noticed.
	We can get it wide.
	Right, dead, great.
	Both of us together.
	One each end and steady as we go.
	Given recent events and for 20% of the marks of this exam, would the Brothers Fairbrass discuss?
	Adios.
	I had a competition.
	Thank you.
	So why Right Said Fred?
	Oh, I see.
	That's really, really simple.
	Bernard Cribbins died yesterday.
	Yes.
	93.
	Who sung Right Said Fred.
	We called the band Right Said Fred based on his song.
	And how that happened was back in the day, we used to change our name a lot.
	We were going, you used to have to get your gigs into time out to register, to advertise the shows.
	We didn't have a name.
	A friend of ours heard Right Said Fred on the radio.
	She came banging on our door.
	She said, you've got to call the band Right Said Fred.
	Because his real name is Christopher.
	Because my real name is Christopher.
	But I've been called Fred since I was about five.
	Right.
	And so we just, yeah, we didn't think about it.
	We just went, all right, that's a good idea.
	And it stuck.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if we hadn't made it, we would have changed the name again.
	Yeah, exactly.
	We changed the name all the time.
	Geoffroy Tull used to do that.
	If they had a bad gig, they would just change the name.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So that you couldn't, the same people wouldn't come back and...
	Same with Deep Purple.
	Yeah, Deep Purple.
	You just have to keep running.
	You can't hit a moving target.
	Who's this lady here?
	She's one of our sponsors.
	So the way that everything's funded, we don't do any corporate sponsorship or anything.
	Right, right.
	Because then it's just easier so we don't have to worry about getting cancelled.
	It gives us a kind of freedom to say what we like.
	And so it's just regular people who give us money everywhere.
	Right, right, right.
	It's great, isn't it?
	And we've got certain tiers.
	So the people who give us £30 a month get to send us video comments and questions.
	Oh, okay.
	Which we go through at the end.
	Okay, cool.
	Let's go for the next one.
	You guys are really bashy on Californians lately.
	I mean, not all of us are bad, although I'm not Californian anymore, but I am one of those fleers.
	But, you know, I come back to visit California, and then it's like I see the local news, and then it's like, oh, you know, healthcare is a human right, and, you know, disinformation is evil, and the Democrats are looking to do, like, lower inflation.
	You're right.
	And then also the whole, like, oh, the higher interest rate isn't bad for homeowners.
	Like, I don't...
	I can see why everyone hates us.
	In your defense, you're not moving to a red state and voting Democrat.
	We were complaining about Californians, they're all fleeing California, but they're all going to arrive in like Texas or Florida and be like, oh, I need to vote Democrat.
	It's like, you idiots.
	We were working with two people in California, two writers, two musicians, And they sent us an email after they said, we've seen your position on masks.
	We no longer want to work with you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And the guy said, my mum's ill.
	She's having to wear a mask.
	So how's that my fault?
	What has that got to do with me?
	I mean, I'm about 7,000 masks.
	Freaking hell.
	I know.
	Anyway, unfortunately, we've run out of time there.
	So where can people find you, ChapsOnline?
	They can find us on Twitter.
	We're at the Freds.
	Same on Getter.
	Facebook, it's writesaidfred, and there's writesaidfredofficial.com.
	That's pretty much it, really.
	And the Unemployment Bureau.
	Well, there is that, too.
	Yes.
	Haven't we all been there?
	Yes.
	But anyway, so thank you so much for joining me.
	It's a pleasure.
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