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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 19th of May 2022.
I'm joined by Zuby.
What's up?
How's it going, man?
All good.
Today we're going to be talking about Posey Parker stumping Piers Morgan, disinformation, as I think we all should, and also BLM's tax returns aren't very pretty, that's for sure.
Otherwise, just a quick announcement for the video commentators as well.
Please don't send any copyrighted music in with the video comments because we can't play that.
So we end up having to work around it or just not playing it.
So just a warning for that.
But otherwise...
I don't know if we want to do like a, just for people who might not know you, if you want to talk about yourself.
Yeah, sure.
I'll do a quick little brief intro.
So I'm Zuby, independent.
I'm an independent rapper, author, host of the Real Talk with Zuby podcast, public speaker and coach.
Originally born in the UK, grew up in Saudi Arabia, family background originally from Nigeria.
Also went to an American-slash-international school for several years, so if my accent is confusing you, as it does with everybody, then that is why.
But yeah, lots of people know me for lots of different things.
Although I'm annoyed you didn't put in the best thing there, of course, which is being the world record holder of?
Remaining British women's record holder in the deadlift and bench press, actually, as well.
Set those records just over three years ago now, and we still live in this continuation of clown world, so they still stand.
And speaking of that continuation of Clown World, that's exactly the topic of today for Posey Parker stumping Piers Morgan.
And as a member of the transgender community, or at least briefly, you'll be very interested, I'm sure.
So to start off, of course, I have to start with the shill.
So to start with the shill being the book club Abigail Schreier's Irreversible Damage that Harry did, which I'm getting a lot of work out of because it is just obviously relevant.
So this is the obsession with trying to convert kids, and then the irreversible damage these people cause.
But I suppose we want to move to the adults.
So I've not been that impressed, I'll be honest, with the Piers Morgan setup on his show.
I just not really found it that interesting, personally.
And if we go forward, I just wanted to mention some of the weird stuff I found.
So if you click on this image here, the first one...
See, I remember this was his opening show, and there's a lot of Piers Morgans there that made me laugh, at least.
If you go to the next one, the funniest one is just, like, he has, like, a screen showing the thing on the roof as well.
So for the opening show, of course, they just had his logo, so it was just Piers Morgan uncensored on the roof as well as everywhere else, which was strange, to say the least, from my perspective.
If we go forward, we can also see that there are some memes that did come out of this, or at least some Alan Partridge-level memes that I found funny.
I don't know if we can play the first one, just in the...
You heard the man, fun police.
Good stuff.
I'm sorry.
But then if we go to the next one as well, there are some disappointing news for him, which is just that the viewing figures apparently are doing very good.
So this is Lawrence Fox making fun of it, of course, because I don't think Lawrence is very, very happy with Pierce.
And if we go to the next one as well, there's also just the weird notion that all the advertising is about.
Piers.
Morgan.
I feel like I've said the word Piers already like 20 times.
But I suppose that's the point.
But anyway, we shall get into the debate between Posey Parker and Piers himself.
So, there was an event in Manchester.
I presume you saw it.
I actually didn't know.
Okay, so Posey Parker went to go give a speech in which he was going to say that women exist.
Do they?
That was about it.
What is a woman, though?
So, a bunch of black block petty terrorists.
Oh, yes, I did see this.
Okay, yeah, I saw some videos floating around Twitter, but I didn't know exactly what the event was, and I didn't know it was in Manchester.
But that's the thing, it was so surface level.
It's literally just Posey Parker coming up to talk about the fact that women exist, that they have rights, and that was enough, of course, in the clown world in which we exist.
Yeah, this whole thing is so misogynistic, it's amazing.
Dude, it was brilliant.
I mean, you've literally got men clad out in black outfits, physically pushing around.
And, you know, I mean, I saw one a couple years ago.
Do you remember that one where the guy...
I think it was something slightly different, but the guy actually kicked a woman.
And you've got this.
And then, of course, you have all this weird online activism and people...
Calling these women really, really nasty things and slurs and whatever.
And I can't help but notice it's primarily dudes.
It's primarily men who are doing this.
It's primarily left-wing men who are reveling in this weird misogyny that's allowing them to essentially defend men against women's rights and demonize and make really misogynistic attacks and comments on women.
Yeah.
The men doing this, of course, will be the type of men who call themselves feminists.
And the whole thing is just so backwards and insane and hypocritical that it's hard to believe that this is the real world.
It's very odd.
This is where you get this strange narrative, I would say, at least from the...
Well, they're not feminists.
They don't call themselves feminists, but the women's rights advocates like Rosie, for example, who see the whole transgender movement as, like, men's rights advocacy.
It is.
But, like, the MRAs of old are like, what?
No.
Yeah, it's all convoluted, you know?
We have nothing to do with that, guys.
The whole thing is weird, and, you know, it's deranging because we live in this weird time where you're meant to believe simultaneously.
It's like 1984.
You're supposed to simultaneously believe multiple conflicting and mutually exclusive views.
So at the same time, you're supposed to believe that men and women are completely the same and absolutely equal in every sense.
Like men and women are just the same.
They don't even have different preferences or interests or whatever.
Men and women are the same.
But you're also supposed to believe that we're very different.
And of course, there's this thing called the patriarchy and women are essentially oppressed.
There's the wage gap and so on.
So you also have to recognize this.
But also, they're completely interchangeable.
And men and women are actually social constructs, which cannot be defined.
You're a woman if you say you're a woman.
You're a man if you say you're a man.
And so you're supposed to simultaneously believe all three of these things – Men and women are the same.
They're completely different and neither really exists and they're just social constructs and you can switch from one to the other.
And this is why you get – end up in these weird situations.
But it's all obviously mad.
I mean, this is why before I was asking you a lot about Saudi Arabia.
You're growing up there.
Because, like, it's weird enough living here all your life and realizing, like, something's gone deeply wrong.
But to come from a society where, in this regard, sex still exists and works, and it's fine, even though, you know, it's God's thanks, but whatever.
And then looking back on the UK and the United States and just thinking, what the...
It's really weird, man.
I mean, the past 10 years in particular have been very weird.
Because, I mean, we were having this discussion before.
I mean, none of us are, you know, we're not old people talking about, oh, you know, back in my day, many, many decades ago or something, literally 8, 10, 12, 15 years ago.
We need to return to a traditional 2010 society.
Yeah, like, we're just normal people from 2010.
Yeah.
I haven't drastically changed my views on any of this stuff my entire life growing up and now it's always been, yes, there are two sexes.
Sex and gender are basically interchangeable terms.
You have men, you have women, you have boys, you have girls.
We're similar in many ways as human beings, but we are also different, and that difference is important.
You feel like you're talking to a baby, don't you?
Yeah, and the thing is, babies even understand this.
Like, a baby who cannot even speak can tell the difference between a man and a woman.
But speaking of the fact that this conversation is just insane on the face of it, we shall get into the interview itself, which is also just insane.
So this is the first one here.
We have one of the ninjas turned up named Jane.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
What do you think it is?
And we'll play the first clip of Jane's version of debate.
Let's play that.
There's no point swearing.
I apologise to our viewers for your bad language.
This is a chance for you to present yourself in a way where we can have a proper debate.
If you've got no interest in doing that, that's fine.
But I'm just going to say to you that I've always supported trans rights to fairness and equality.
My issue with the way this trans debate is going is in issues like sport, for example, where I think it's...
What is your problem with my position?
I don't really know.
I'm going to leave the interview now.
I kind of only came on here because I thought it would be kind of funny.
But I want to say you're a f**k and you're a f**k.
So there you are.
That's the level of debate.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, I cut it there just because he went on to talk about, of course, the obvious things, which is, you know, bathrooms, sport, goes on.
And they had nothing.
They're just not interested.
See, one of the biggest problems in the modern Western world is you've allowed people like this weirdo on the right to set the rules.
So that's someone who should just be laughed at and mocked.
Like, nothing that that person is saying with their complete level of immaturity and stupidity and foolishness and just being so disingenuous, people like that shouldn't be taken seriously.
Like, yes, they have a right to voice their insane views, but they should be laughed at for...
The insane views that they are.
But instead people are like, oh wait, okay, let's set policy around that.
Let's set all the rules around what these fringe weirdos are saying.
And they've done this on every single subject.
Instead of laughing these people out the room, it's like, yeah, let's use this.
It is easy to say those people should be out selling pencils from a cup.
And yeah, I agree.
But at the same time, they end up as MPs.
I mean, we have at least 100 old MPs who believe in this crap.
Nobody believes it.
They're cowards.
That's all it is.
I find that hard to believe.
It's cowards.
It's pure cowardice.
This whole thing is based on cowardice.
That's all it is.
Even the activists.
They're all cowards.
If you are an absolute coward, you know the best thing to do is to actually adopt – pretend to adopt the position and accuse other people because then you feel indemnified.
This whole thing is based on cowardice.
There's nobody out there who believes that biologically you can actually magically change That is not a thing.
A man can't give birth.
No man has ever menstruated.
No man has ever given birth.
It's not a thing.
Not just within the human species, within the entire animal kingdom.
We are sexually dimorphic mammals.
Every single person listening to this, every single person here on this planet was birthed by a woman.
Right?
I still love it because we said earlier, you were saying sometimes I tweet things and think, why the hell am I... I'm getting that.
Yeah, dude, we literally, I mean, and it's so misogynistic.
Like, I'm not a fan of feminism.
But, like, it's...
Not that I even know what feminism means right now.
No, it doesn't mean...
Because if you can't even define what a woman is, how are you talking about women's rights or male and female equality or whatever?
Like, if we can't even determine what these words mean.
But it's so incredibly misogynistic.
I mean, because all of this stuff, it always targets women.
All of the fallout of all of this trans nonsense...
Yeah, well, it always affects women.
If you're talking about the sports, are there male athletes who are worried that females are going to transition?
No, because they'll lose.
They'll get smashed.
Like, there's not even a chance.
So it all affects women.
Are men worried about females entering their prisons or entering their private spaces and their changing rooms?
No, it's not.
Because we're still stronger.
Of course.
I mean, that's the fundamental thing.
Yeah, exactly.
If this thing even made any sense, then all of these issues would be two ways.
Men would also be concerned about the fact that, oh, well, you know, there's going to be an unfair advantage here or there.
But men are not worried.
It only impacts 50 percent of the population who are female.
I mean, even even the language, right?
Instead of calling people mothers, calling them birthing people or birthing bodies, person who gives birth, vagina owners, menstruators, all of this.
They're called women.
Like the most traditionally misogynistic dude in the world will still call women women like.
Like, you won't start, like, calling them.
But anyway, I was just going to mention that, like, you're saying the person, the, you know, insane person is really the problem here.
To be honest, I find peers there more of the problem, because his response was to say to the person, oh, look, I believe in trans whites, fairness and equality.
And I'm always left with a question, a trans right to what?
Yeah.
Exactly.
And he, again, he's trying to protect himself.
Because these people are so vicious that if you just call it like it is, you get called a trans.
They're going to call you a transphobe regardless.
And that's exactly what leads us to the next clip.
Yeah, so you can't just be trying to couch this thing and use all these caveats or whatever.
It's a given.
If you support human rights and equality on a basic level, that encompasses everything.
It encompasses everything, right?
So when people even say, I support trans rights, I was like, what does that even mean?
Well, that's the thing.
There are two different rights here, and they are in conflict.
And we're going to see, you mentioned, just call yourself transphobic anyway.
We'll see Posey Parker do exactly that, because she just does not care.
Pierce is like, are you transphobic?
Thinking, ha ha, you know, we'll laugh.
And she goes, nah, sure, why not?
So, let's play.
I'll talk to you about...
This issue, because you were on the receiving end as a group there.
You were trying to speak at Emmeline Panker statue.
I've just had a pretty unsavoury exchange with one of those protesters who probably thinks that they've had that little moment with me and they'll get that little viral moment.
I actually think it's indicative of actually how awful their behaviour has been throughout this episode and the way they've dealt with it afterwards.
But let me ask you, you're very...
Strong about supporting women's rights to the point where many say that you are transphobic.
Are you transphobic?
Well, I think in 2022, transphobic really just means I don't think women have penises.
And so, yeah, I absolutely am.
Tell them, Posey.
Chad, yes.
Not going to waste my time.
Don't take the bait.
She's absolutely right.
It's the definition.
And the definition there is, okay, we don't believe men have penises.
The definition is you acknowledge reality.
Absolutely.
And penis doesn't seem to take that very well.
So let's play the next clip.
So you're proud of being transphobic?
Yeah, I'm proud of standing up for women's rights and making the word woman completely exclusive to just women.
How do human females?
100% Here's my problem with that because whilst I have a problem with the last guest who chose to be abusive and unpleasant and wasn't listening to a word I said I've always supported trans rights to fairness and equality I don't see a need to say I'm transphobic towards them or to alienate them in any way at all and I have a problem when you proudly boast of being transphobic
I can see why, on the other side of this argument, that kind of rhetoric would be very unhelpful to people who are trans.
Right.
Well, I guess we have a little bit of an issue with definitions.
But when it comes to words like transphobia, it's simply used to silence women, like myself, who are trying to protect women's spaces, language and rights.
And so, if I have to wear that label in order to speak the truth, then I'm happy to do it.
There is nothing that can stop me from speaking about what harms and danger there is for women when we try and dilute what the word woman means and we allow that language to be used for men.
I mean, just very simply.
Straight up.
She's telling the truth.
That's all.
But I love how she doesn't waste her time at all.
Like, she's very much just like, look, I'm not even going to sit there and be like, yeah, trans rights, fairness and equality.
Okay, so women's rights.
In this instance, a women's right to what?
Okay, well, to have a sex-segregated space.
Very simple.
That's my right.
And you can have it for men too, of course.
I think, you know, before even getting into the weeds, I think the most basic right is to be recognized as what you are.
Right?
A right to the word woman.
Right?
Like, that's before anything else.
I think that's...
I don't want to put any words in Kelly J. Keene's mouth there, but that's like the fundamental thing, right?
You are...
Half of the world, half of the adult population are women, adult human females, and you have the right to be recognized by what you literally are and not have men, regardless of how they feel.
Or what hormones they want to take or how they want to dress or whatever to make a claim that they are what you are.
I mean, that's offensive.
That's like gender blackface, basically.
My feelings don't care about your facts, though.
So, I mean, that is literally the inverse.
Yeah, that's what it is.
And, you know, I understand.
I do think...
I think Piers is trying to kind of dance this line between not getting stuck with the transphobic label But also somewhat stand up for reality and you can't really do that dance because you cannot appease vipers and these activist types.
And this is not saying trans people in general because a lot of trans people in general do not like these activist types who are actually just making things worse for them.
Most people – let's be real.
Most people don't actually know a transgender person.
Most people don't know anyone who's trans.
This is not some huge section of the population.
But what people end up seeing is this.
They see the activists.
They see the noisy people who are screaming all this stuff.
And I think, if anything, they're doing a massive disservice to people who are trans and who just want to be left alone, who don't want to be treated badly.
Well, they're not real trans, are they?
Yeah, well… At least according to the activists.
According to the activists, yeah.
But these are the activists who don't think people like myself are actually black because we're not left-wing and we don't play the victim card and we don't align to all of their views.
I've had white people, white lefties have the audacity to tell me that I'm not really black or to call me a white supremacist and stuff like that.
right like what kind of clown world are you living in where you have the freaking audacity do that but this is why i have a problem with peers here in this regard because there's a reason i brought up his viewing figures not just to be mean or anything but there have been a significant say backlash from let's say right leaning people who watch stuff and engage with things and make things against uh him and his show and it's not just because of his covid switch yeah but because of still stuff like this but you can see he's definitely just confused or doesn't really understand that he's got to stop playing the game he's got to stop playing the game
I don't think he's confused, man.
man.
I just think he lacks the moral courage...
Because he's still in London.
Look, no one wants to get stuck with a label.
And this is how the woke side of the left side of the aisle in many countries has gained so much social power.
It's through labeling, being able to call you racist, call you misogynistic, call you a transphobe, call you whatever type of bigot flavor of the day to stick anyone who goes against them with that label.
It's their only argument.
The only argument about why males should be allowed to compete with females in sport is if you don't like it, you're transphobic.
That is the only argument.
There's no coherent argument.
It's just, oh, well, you're a transphobe.
You're a transphobe.
And no one wants to be called that, so then most people start playing defense.
What I love about what Posey does is she doesn't play defense.
She doesn't take that bait.
She's like, all right, you can call me that.
Now let's have the conversation.
But that's why I'm saying...
And then they have nothing left.
Piers just isn't either standing up or isn't getting it.
He knows the truth, man.
Yeah.
He has to.
But there's the thing.
The truth is the fact that women's right to what?
Well, sex segregates space.
Okay, so a trans right to what?
To violate that space.
You don't have a right to violate someone else's rights.
No.
Very simple.
So if you believe in the first right, you can't believe the next one.
So when he says, I'm up for trans rights of fairness and equality...
It doesn't mean anything, man.
It's nothing at all.
Everybody is.
It's like, if I say I'm up for, you know, I support a...
Any demographic could be.
It's like, well, what does that mean?
Like, if you support human rights in general and you support equality, then whether you're going down a so-called gender identity line or a sex line or a race line or an ethnicity line or a religious line or whatever, it doesn't matter.
You don't need to go into any more detail.
It's like, look, I believe all human beings...
All adult human beings, for sure, should have the same right, should be treated fairly under the law, should not be discriminated against, should not be physically hurt or threatened or anything like that.
Exactly, right?
Exactly.
I just live that.
That's all it is.
I don't need to, oh, it's June.
Let me go throw a rainbow flag in my bio.
Oh, something just happened.
Let me put the hashtag BLM. Let me put hashtag I support women.
It's like, dude, I support people.
If you are a human being, Then I support your rights.
Period.
Right?
Like, it doesn't mean I need to jettison reality.
It doesn't mean...
If you're going to support their rights...
Yeah, they want you to throw away reality.
And I'm not going to throw away reality.
Right?
Like, if someone is trans...
Like, I know way more...
I know and have interacted with far more trans people than most people.
Or just as a nature of me interacting with so many people, right?
I meet so many people all across the board, all across the world.
I have people who are trans who follow me on social media and whatever and, you know, might be even listening to this podcast and so on.
And it's like, look, I'll treat anyone with dignity.
I'll treat anyone with kindness.
I'll treat anyone as a human being.
But I'm not going to cede the ground of reality itself.
Like, that's very dangerous because if you can cede that reality...
Then you're on an ultra-slippery slope.
Anything else goes.
And Piers, I don't think, really gets that point.
And that's why I'm hoping he will.
But let's play the next clip in which they continue to argue about, well, why are you not for fairness and equality?
Listen, I agree with a lot of what you say.
I've talked about this a lot, and I think there are serious issues about the infringement on women's rights as people try and progress trans rights to where they want to get to, which is fairness and equality.
You can't create...
A new unfairness, a new inequality.
But I don't think it's helpful to the debate for you to say, I'm transphobic, because that means that you are, by your own admission, hateful towards the trans community.
That's what it means, transphobic.
It's not a word.
It's not even a real word.
I think that's such an important point, is that it's not even a real word.
No.
To be irrationally afraid of trans people, if you're reading it literally.
It's not a word, right?
So they literally will make up words to go along.
It's like...
It's all just a game, man.
And it's tiring.
I'm really tired of just people being disingenuous and dishonest and strawmanning all the time, which is what Piers has done there.
She didn't come out and say, I am transphobic.
He jumped on with the allegation that you are transphobic.
So now here, you defend yourself.
She even made the effort to define what transphobia is, which is believing that men don't have penises.
It's not a word.
It's not a word, but it's just this annoying, disingenuous tactic of, you know, it's the, oh, you know, have you stopped beating your wife?
Right?
It's that one.
And now someone's like, wait, what?
Someone's there defending themselves about not beating their wife when it's like, oh, no, well, when are you going to stop beating your wife?
And it's like, well...
You know, it's disingenuous.
It's this rhetorical tactic that is often used to put people on the back foot.
And that, to me, I think it's number one, it's disrespectful.
It's dishonest.
But also to me, it means you're not really trying to have a real conversation.
If you're just there throwing these labels out at people.
I think he's fallen into that problem here.
We'll go for the next one.
Let's go for the next one.
Yeah, but it doesn't though, does it?
Because that person just called you transphobic.
And I think you've said numerous times, even this evening, that you are pro-trans rights, whatever that means.
And so if you give an inch, I feel, then we really do give everything up.
So I'm just, look, it's just a word.
It's just transphobic.
What is that?
I've never assaulted anyone.
I've never incited violence.
I don't even know what transphobia means besides refusal to submit to this ideology.
And I just won't.
I think there needs to be a better consensus between the two warring factions on this, because I have a lot of sympathy for all of what you say.
I also have sympathy with the trans community who do feel that increasingly a lot of the rhetoric about them is transphobic.
I don't think it really helps to debate if you say, I'm transphobic, because you know that will...
And why play that game if you feel that they are playing a game with you?
Why not be the bigger person in the debate and say, alright, how do we get to a place of genuine fairness and equality for all?
I mean, it's just, again, like, what are you doing?
We've...
It's so frustrating because we've been there.
Like, what is the goal?
Okay, so all these activists, even Pierce himself, when he's saying we want to get to fairness and equality, what does that mean?
Tell me what you would like it to look like.
Well, that's the thing.
Pierce can't define.
Right?
Because he's like, you shouldn't be in the bathrooms, but also, why don't you just give in and do what they say?
I was like...
Yeah, so this is the thing.
So if you look back at genuine civil rights movements of the past, real ones, right?
You could point out very specifically and explicitly what the goals were.
Look, okay, this segment of the population is not currently being – their right to vote is being infringed upon.
Look, these people are being enslaved.
These people are being paid less for the same work.
These people are not being allowed to use the same services and amenities as other people.
These people are being – right?
Like there was always – it's clear cut.
They can do that.
They can say, well, these people are not being recognized as women, but...
That's not a right.
It's not a right, absolutely.
They're being recognized as human beings who already have the same rights and equalities that all these other real activists fought for back in the day.
And there you go.
You've got fairness and equality.
You've got it, right?
If there's a situation where somebody gets attacked based on their identity or something like that, then yeah, we can jump on this specific issue and work to sort that out, right?
Because you don't have a right to assault anybody.
Whether you agree, you disagree, you like the way they look like, you don't, whatever.
You can't just see someone on the street and physically attack them or whatever.
So if there is some huge spate of that happening, then I'm not aware of it.
Someone can make me aware.
But we live in such an incredibly, as far as human history goes and as far as the world goes, We live in such a magnificently, incredibly tolerant society.
I could put on lipstick and a dress and high heels and have my freaking beard and my muscles, and I could walk down a high street in the UK and probably nobody would say anything to me, let alone me be attacked or assaulted.
I mean, I'd put money on it.
I think I could do that on any high street in the UK. I don't think anyone would say anything.
I think people would give me some odd looks.
I think people would think things.
I don't think anyone would say anything.
I think people would mind their business.
And that shows you.
I mean, man, try that in most of the world.
Try that in most of the world, right?
You can't.
So, people are pushing for this, like, unicorn land, which does not exist and cannot exist, where, and you've got this situation where you've got, you know, like you said, you're infringing upon the actual rights of half of the population.
Yeah, that's also for men as well.
Men deserve their own places as well.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I don't actually want women in the men's changing room either, right?
Is it a physical threat to me?
No, but...
It's weird, and it's uncomfortable for people.
And this has always been fine.
It's never been a big issue.
With these weird things like bathrooms, I mean, you can have, you know, a gender-neutral bathroom or a disabled bathroom or an everybody-used bathroom, if that's such some huge issue.
At my university, that's what we did.
Like, all the disabled bathrooms were also gender-neutral.
Sure.
And it worked.
Yeah, okay.
So the three people who this is a big issue for, you can use that one.
You've got an unlimited amount of bathrooms just for you.
There you go.
Anyway, we'll have to skip over the last clip because we don't have time for it.
But basically, Posey just says that she feels sorry for the clearly confused children.
I don't know if we can skip over this one.
But those guys in the black block who were also clearly trans, they're probably going to wake up about 15 years and realize, yeah...
I don't really know what I was doing with my years there, and I think she's probably correct about that assessment.
But otherwise, I don't know if we can get the last link on there, which is the only news in regards to Piers Morgan's show.
The only other news on the show of Piers Morgan was the fact that the bad man, as I have to call him, because we can't literally mention his name without getting flagged by a bot, apparently.
So the bad man actually threatened Piers Morgan to a debate as well, because I don't know if you remember the last interaction these two had.
I actually don't.
Oh, right.
So the bad man went on Piers Morgan's show on Good Morning Britain to debate the fact that there's a disproportionate amount of Muslim men being arrested for certain crimes, and he held up the Koran Oh yes, I did.
Oh, this was years back, right?
Yeah, to say, look, I can literally quote you the passages, I've got them memorized, and Piers Morgan's response was, take that book down, you're offending religion.
Yeah, I remember that.
So, the bad man's point being, well look, if you're truly uncensored, allow me to do the blasphemy that you didn't allow last time, and let's have the discussion.
So, it'll be interesting to see if that happens at least.
I doubt it.
But otherwise, let's move to dissing information itself.
Okay.
So I thought we'd talk about disinformation, as in, like, diss it, because I really like Elon Musk's tweet about that, if nothing else.
This is, of course, about the disinformation, or truth unit, I'm sure they call it, that they've set up, and I'll show first the Active Measures book club that me and Carl did in regards to the KGB, MI5, and all the rest of it, with their literal information, psyops, in which they would literally create disinformation for fun, for the purposes of helping the government, and I'm sure the US government would never do the same.
Let's make the next one, because then we have the fact that the board is now dead.
Fantastic.
I mean, this actually chewed me up this week, seeing it genuinely.
I love that you have a professional doxer, Taylor Lorenz, having to report on it as well.
Oh, no.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
If we go to the next one, we can see how this is being reported, at least the headline here, which has also been screenshotted here, just as brilliant.
How the Biden admin let right-wing attacks derail its disinformation efforts.
Chad, yes.
God bless the right-wing sometimes, and this is one of them.
I love how in the USA, it's always the conservatives pounce.
Anytime, like...
The other side of the political aisle does, like, something stupid or has some horrendous idea, and conservatives or just normal people have some backlash against it.
That's always the headline.
It's always, you know, the right-wing attacks, conservatives pounce, you know, far right.
It's like, okay, so you don't want to frame it as in, oh, maybe the other side, like, maybe this was just a bad idea.
I'm kind of proud of it, though.
Like, every time they say, did you know those dirty rightists are trying to stop us from perverting kids?
How can that...
How come no one uses that word?
What, rightist?
Yeah, is it because it sounds like rightist?
I don't know.
In English, I mean, it's a perfectly good word.
We use leftist all the time.
Yeah, we use leftist, but no one uses rightist.
I got mostly into using it.
We did a book club on Mel's Great Famine, and Mel would continuously just be like, yeah, the rightist needs to be destroyed.
Oh, interesting.
So I got the habit of using it from there.
Yeah, you're the only one person I know.
Like, I know it's a real word, but no one seems to use it.
We should use it more, popularize it.
But yeah, the rightists, they're horrible because they're trying to shut down the Ministry of Truth.
God bless the American right, you guys are golden girls.
How is this real?
They say, Jankiewicz, again, you have an Eastern European name and you're pro-truth department.
I'm sorry, but she says she was the victim of a coordinated online attack as the administration struggled to respond.
Victim, of course, woe is me.
People love, they love that one.
Put a terrible idea out into the ether.
You see this on Twitter all the time.
Someone will put up the worst, most horrendous, most immoral take in the world.
And then people will rightfully respond to it, like not being very pleased.
And then it's like, I'm being attacked.
And then they'll protect their account.
And I'm just like, these people are...
Clowns.
Yeah, and if we go to this clown herself, she has her article, I thought we'd just go through a little bit of it, because it's hilarious, and also I enjoy the fact that she was probably crying as she wrote this.
So on the morning of April 27th, the Department of Homeland Security announced the creation of the first disinformation governance board, with the stated goal to coordinate countering misinformation related to Homeland Security.
Great.
Literal.
I mean, you really wonder why people started calling it the Ministry of Truth.
The Biden administration tapped Nina Jankiewicz, a well-known figure in the field of fighting disinformation and extremism, as the board's director.
Keep that in mind.
She's well-known as an anti-extremist.
In naming the 33-year-old Jankiewicz to run the new curated board, just gonna stop there, unlike the author who is 39 and really doesn't like it when anyone mentions that, so I thought I'd mention it, the administration chose someone with extensive experience in the field of disinformation who has emerged as an urgent and important issue.
Within the small community of disinformation researchers, her work is well regarded.
Yes, I'm sure all 12 people who do this love her and her work.
I was a big fan of that book, How to Be a Woman Online.
That was actually my inspiration for the deadlift.
So thank you, Nina.
I loved your book.
Yeah.
They say after the announcements, it's been paused, according to the Department of Finance and Security, after the back-and-forth stories on what it was going to do, which I love.
It's literally been destroyed by quote-unquote disinformation as well.
Beautiful.
Also, nothing of value was lost in the slightest.
But then they say that it's up for review.
She's resigned now as well from the board, and it's up for review.
So it may even come back, and I bet they will bring it back.
And I also love that they say she was working with groups within the Homeland Security Department focused on mis, dis, and mal information.
Bit of a self-report where you're just like, yeah, we're just going to label anything.
Some kind of wrong thing.
They also say, Jankiewicz's experience is a prime example of how the right-wing internet apparatus operates.
Where far-right influencers attempt to identify a target, present a narrative, and then repeatedly mischaracterize the situation across social media and websites.
I've never seen anyone on the left ever do that.
No.
Her herself, the author, Taylor.
You must be familiar with Taylor, right?
Unfortunately.
Professional doxxer.
It's just like, did you know the right are terrible?
Why?
Because they do things and then try to defend it with nonsense reasoning.
It's like, bro, you literally doxxed a woman because she exposed the left.
That's why you did it.
Everyone knows that.
And also just the smear of everyone who disagrees with me is far right.
Of course they are.
But you think I was on to say that this is all Jack Posobiec's fault?
Oh yeah.
Of course it is.
Of course many things are.
Just hours after Djankovic tweeted about her new job, far right influencer Jack Posobiec, yeah because the Navy's far right, posted tweets accusing Biden administration of creating a ministry of truth.
Posobiec's 1.7 million followers...
Let's get that higher, boys.
Quickly followed and sprung into action.
By the end of the day, there were 53,000 posts about the disinformation boards, and in the following days, that number skyrocketed.
Yeah, why is that?
Why did it skyrocket?
Because it's a terrible idea.
Terrible idea.
Let's install a Ministry of Truth in a country where the First Amendment is freedom of speech.
And Americans took that personally, and I don't know why.
I'm like, I think this is why I'm at the moment of just being like, God bless the United States and their people.
Because we have polls in this country of, do you value free speech?
And disappointingly, we get like 50-50 results.
The USA is the bastion for that.
I mean, the USA is...
I love that country.
It's very nutty, as we talked about prior to the show in many ways.
But it's such an important country when it comes to things like freedom of speech.
Because that is the...
That is really the bastion.
They're the only ones really defending it.
Yeah.
If the USA starts embracing all these type of so-called hate speech laws and disinformation laws and, you know, censorship and, you know, imprisoning people or fining people for saying things that people disagree with, then...
It's over.
The world is toast.
I mean...
I mean, the last things that the West has right are definitely gone.
Yeah.
Just in the same way, I'm actually...
Over the years, I've really become like a strong Second Amendment supporter as well, not because I like just love guns.
But because it's the first.
Yes, right?
Because like – and the US is the country that has that and it's the biggest country in the West and it's the most powerful.
So it's like if you guys lose that – I mean here, I'm going to throw out an idea here.
I think that the USA's Second Amendment has protected the world over the past two years.
Yeah, 100%.
I don't think many people kind of draw that line, and it might seem kind of weird to people to connect those dots.
But I think that, firstly, it prevented them from falling into total COVID tyranny in the way that places like Australia, New Zealand, and Canada did.
I think they realized, okay, we can't push the whole of the United States that far because they have got that.
Final break glass in case of and I think that goes on a worldwide basis as well because if you could completely – like if the USA had completely gone the way of Australia or Canada or something with the full intensity of that, then like again, what hope does anybody else have?
I mean that's just a wrap.
Like they can just do whatever they want at that point.
I remember, I keep bringing it up because it's just horrific, but the Australian police went to a puppy shelter and then the guys who owned it said, okay, we'll come out and get the puppies and make sure they're safe and we're all isolated.
And the police just said no.
No, they killed them.
Gunned them down.
They killed them, dude.
They let some newborn babies die in Australia because they wouldn't let them go across the borders of the province because of the lockdown rules.
So they needed to get these babies to a hospital in a different province to give them the emergency care they needed.
And they just said, no, you can't cross this border and the babies died.
Like, could you imagine if Australians were as armed to the teeth as Americans are?
Well, they don't even want to be.
I mean, they cucked away their guns.
I mean, what would have happened, you know?
If you're just like, yeah, I'm just gonna let your kid die.
Yeah, dude, it's...
Man, I don't know, man.
Americans, if you're listening, keep your straps and keep your ability to speak.
Don't give that up on any circumstances, however they try to sell it to you.
Whereas the professional harasser doesn't get that.
It doesn't learn that lesson from this.
If we go to the next one, I just wanted to give an example of what they think, which is literally just now.
I tried to serve a disinformation ministry of truth, and people didn't like it.
Am I wrong?
No.
Of course, you know.
I also, I love Douglas Morris' point, which is they think they're up there with, like, the fire service.
You know, these journos.
With what service?
The fire service.
Oh, okay.
Like, they're off in a public service.
Oh, no.
Like, you're scum.
If we go to the next one, we also have another quote from here, which he references the fact that everyone's called the Ministry of Truth.
Unlike the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's 1984 that became a derogatory point of comparison, neither the board nor Jankiewicz actually had any power to declare what was true or false, or compel internet providers, social media platforms, or public schools to take action against certain times of speech.
BS. I'm calling it 100% absolute BS. And I can prove it as well.
Because we have the goddamn clip of her talking about it.
I'm sorry this annoys me.
But this is her, the Jankowitz lady.
I can't believe they're wearing masks on a Zoom call.
Embarrassing.
But she says in here that the way Twitter works, or at least her vision for it, is that verified users should be able to decide the context underneath those posts.
You know when you see someone that's got this stupid warning?
Apparently some Twitter user who's verified gets to do that for you.
Oh, interesting.
Or at least she thinks they should be able to.
And let's play it.
And I am eligible for it because I'm verified.
But there are a lot of people who shouldn't be verified, who aren't, you know, legit, in my opinion.
I mean, they are real people, but they're not trustworthy.
Anyway, so verified people can...
Essentially start to edit Twitter the same sort of way that Wikipedia is so they can add context to certain tweets.
So just as a easy example, not from any political standpoint, if President Trump were still on Twitter and tweeted a claim about voter fraud, Someone could add context from one of the 60 lawsuits that went through the court or something that an election official in one of the states said, perhaps your own Secretary of State and his news conferences, something like that.
Adding context so that people have a fuller picture rather than just an individual claim on a tweet.
Just to open admission, yes, I do want to completely distort the public square and what everyone able to say.
Also, I'm the head of the Ministry of Truth.
Those things aren't connected at all.
You're verified.
Should you be?
Absolutely.
I've got the best account on Twitter.
But if we go to the next one as well, we can also see the fact that there's her talking about she also wants verified users to be able to edit other users' tweets.
What a terrible idea.
All they have is bad ideas.
This is the person you put in charge of the Ministry of Truth.
Who is she?
We were having this discussion before about just democracy, and it's like, how are just random people...
You've never heard of.
You've never heard of, just come out there, and all of a sudden they're supposed to just have all this massive power over hundreds of millions or potentially billions of people.
Oh, these are just here, a random woman who has proven herself already to be...
To speak a lot of nonsense, we're going to give this woman...
You didn't elect her, and you didn't want this, but we're just going to give her the power over all of this stuff.
She gets even worse.
I don't know how much you looked into her.
Oh, I saw it.
Was it the video where she was singing?
Yeah, but that's not really the worst thing.
The worst thing is being a sympathist for neo-Nazis.
I'm not joking.
Let's go to the next one here.
Again, this is the lady who's going to decide whether or not what you're saying is true.
So she, remember, was a well-known anti-extremist.
Jankiewicz's experience as a disinformation warrior includes her work for Stop Fake, a US government-funded anti-disinformation organization founded in March 2014 and lauded as a model of how to combat Kremlin lies.
Four years ago, Stop Fake began aggressively whitewashing Ukrainian neo-Nazi groups with a long track record of violence, including war crimes.
They were killing gypsies.
Oh, wow.
And she and her organization were like, what?
You know, they're pro-Western, so they're good boys.
Today, StopFake is an official Facebook fact-checking partner, which gives its power to censor news whilst Jankiewicz is American's disinformation, sir.
Oh, dear.
I mean, that's what I mean.
You could not get a worse person who's just like, yeah, well, the neo-Nazis did nothing wrong.
Why?
Because they're on my side.
Okay.
They're literally committing war crimes, but Serbia's strong, I guess.
And she has the power to censor things on Facebook through that role.
She has the power to censor things on Twitter through her role, as she argued there.
But no, don't worry.
She wouldn't be able to touch anything.
She's also a laptop denier.
If you're the next one, I just love that headline.
Yeah, Hunter Laptop Denier.
Doesn't believe it exists.
Laptop denier.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
These terms.
Is that like the...
I've heard the term climate denier.
People who deny the climate never met one of those, but I didn't know there was a laptop denier.
Completely, though.
She didn't believe it was a real story.
It's all Russian misinformation.
It's like, okay, so this again is the person you want in charge.
If we go to the next one, we also have the fact that she's a Russia-Trump person as well.
She's obsessed with that.
It's the third image there.
She's like, yeah, basically the Russians own Trump.
Great.
And while this...
S-show, I don't know what else to call it, of a pic, obviously led to backlash.
And if we go to the next one, we can see the fact that the Ministry of Truth popped up, this account, a quarter of a million followers there.
I'm sure to increase as time goes on, in which they just follow your tweets and just be like, actually, this is wrong.
Let me tell you why.
If we go to the next one, we have the New York Post reporting on this.
Because the question came to mind, which is just, well, why did they actually pause this?
Like, what convinced them?
Because it's clearly not principle.
They weren't like, oh yeah, we actually love liberal values, so this is a bad idea.
No, of course it wasn't.
Following the backlash from Republicans and some liberals who likened the board to a Ministry of Truth, the Department of Homeland Security decided to put it all on hold.
Also, they did not respond to comment from the New York Post asking them about it.
So it's literally just pure power calculus.
And we have this confirmed by the diversity hire, the new lady who's the press secretary.
And I'm not going to learn her name because she was literally picked for diversity.
And so she can live with it.
And let's play her response.
Do you think the board was mischaracterized?
Then the disinformation board is being shut down because of disinformation?
Is that what's happening here?
Look, I mean, the board was put forth for a purpose, right?
To make sure that we really did address what was happening across the country when it came to disinformation.
And it's okay right now?
75 days?
It's going to pause.
There's been a mischaracterations from outside, outside forces.
And so not where we're going to do is going to, we're going to pause it and we're going to do an assessment, but the work does the work doesn't stop.
We're still going to continue the work.
The DHS is still going to continue.
Okay.
So let's talk about just psycho babble, It's so painful to listen to these people talk.
Like, they just lie.
I can't stand people being disingenuous.
Like, I hate lying.
I hate dishonesty.
And there are people in this political, social, cultural world who just...
All they do is lie.
Non-stop.
And then you're there doing this and you're accusing other people of disinformation.
Right?
And you have a right to lie.
I don't like it.
I don't like the fact that every single...
Word that's come out of these people's mouths is nonsense and is not honest.
I'm not even trying to censor them, though.
But they're the ones who have the audacity to think that you are now the arbiters of truth.
All you do is lie.
You're the press secretary.
Your job is to lie.
It's painful.
I think actually it's an embarrassment.
I've actually been in that room.
I've got a photo standing right where she is.
I say as someone who loves the United States of America, I think actually it's a really bad look for them to just have a liar.
And the liar changes every couple of years who just stands in front of the American flag and the White House symbol and just lies to the public multiple times a week about a host of different issues.
And it's not even like outright lying.
Like Jen Psaki, like her – Just every time, you're just standing there lying, just telling bold-faced lies.
And I'm like, man, this is not a good look for your country.
This is not a good look.
I can't get over the transition as well.
I mean, I mentioned earlier, but the fact that they brought her out, gender, and then she went, yeah, so she's black and gay?
Yeah.
And that was basically the introduction.
Oh, and female.
Oh, yeah.
And a woman.
We forgot what a woman was.
We forgot what a woman was, but yeah.
Remembered it now.
And then, yeah, there you are.
So that's why I'm not learning her name, Diversity Hire, along with the Supreme Court.
Do you know what?
I don't think...
I think Jen Psaki was like kind of – I think she's a sociopath, right?
I think she's able to lie.
She moved on to MSNBC. Yeah, well, I think she's the kind of person who's able to just lie that much and be okay with it.
I think the reason this woman is struggling to even do this role – because I've seen a couple of clips from her and she struggles to get the words out.
I don't think in her conscience – I think she has a conscience.
And I think the reason why she's not very eloquent here is because she knows she's talking nonsense and, like, there's this conflict within her brain or in her heart which is making her kind of, like, fumble basic words because she knows she's lying.
Like, I think you can get these people who are- She knows it's wrong.
Yeah, and she knows it's wrong.
You can get people who are so sociopathic that, like, they will just stand there and they will just lie and lie and lie and they can sleep well at night.
They can go home and they're okay with it.
I don't think she's like that.
I'll be surprised if she lasts long.
I mean, I guess we'll see.
If she stays in the role and gets better at it, that'll be why she's changed.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see.
I'm going to make a prediction that she won't last in this role very long.
I could be wrong.
I think you might be right.
That's my guess.
Yeah.
Anyway, we'll end this off.
We go to the next link here, just to end it off, which is the point I saw.
Very funny from Matt Walsh, at least.
Matt Walsh is a G. Yeah.
All we had to do with the disinformation board was just point at it and say, look at this thing they're doing, and the whole thing collapsed.
And that's just so true.
Like, all the rightists in America had to do, they're making a ministry of truth.
That was it.
I can't tell what she's saying, but I can tell she's crazy.
Just like, I don't even need to hear her.
And I can just see by her face.
I'm like, she's crazy.
Weird high-pitched screeching.
And this is what I kind of love about the American right, to be honest.
In a large part.
Because we did a segment earlier about Tucker Carlson and his reporting on their speeches about migration.
I love it when he does that face.
Yeah.
It's gold.
Like, all you have to do is just point at the left.
Like, you don't have to do much.
By the way, I've met Tucker multiple times.
I like Tucker.
When you talk to him at a party, does he call that face as well?
Tucker's cool, man.
Like, when you're drinking with him, and you're just like, oh, yeah, you're saying a thing.
Does he look at you?
I haven't been at a party, but yeah, when we talk and I'm saying something profound, he does the look.
But yeah, no, because he's someone who, like, man, people say the wildest I don't know him that well, but when I met him, he's been very kind.
He's been very gentlemanly on and off camera.
Like all of these people, he's not this...
Monster.
No, I mean, I've seen people walk up to him filming just out of, you know, TV live, right?
Okay.
And he's, like, fly fishing, and he just goes, well, why are you filming me?
And they say, oh, I just film vlogs.
And he goes, oh, cool.
You want to talk about fly fishing?
It's just, it's so human.
Yeah.
Anyway, but that's, that's that, with all the disinformation, and continue, Americans.
Can I hear what Matt's saying here?
I'm curious.
Or do we, have we got time?
We don't have time for it.
Okay, okay.
We'll have to move on to BLM. Oh, yes, favorite topic.
Yeah, let's go to BLM now.
So, BLM's tax returns got released, and I thought we'd have fun.
So, let's take a look through that, at least.
And to start off, I'm going to show this video.
This is one we did a while ago, which I think you made the point earlier.
You said, why the hell are we talking about BLM in Britain?
I've got to one-up you.
BLM in Barbados.
Oh, wow.
90% of the population are black.
100% of the parliament are black.
Every leader is black.
100% of the seats were also in the Labour Party.
There were zero seats held by rightists in their parliament.
And yet, there was a march in Barbados of a load of people screaming, end white supremacy.
In Barbados?
Yeah.
Riddle me that.
Interesting.
So go give that a watch if you've got the time.
It's unbelievable how even Barbados has a BLM problem.
And moving forward, we will go to Jabba the Marxist herself here.
She sits around getting away with her $6 million mansion.
I don't know if you've seen this footage, so I included it, because you definitely should.
This was from a video she uploaded to her YouTube channel, in which they sat around and gloated that they got away with it.
Oh, wow.
It's her private YouTube channel.
And then she's taken it down since.
Because, well, people pointed it out.
Okay, no, I haven't seen this.
Let's play the clip.
I'm so glad to have the both of you here.
And in person.
Yes!
It's been a really intense year and a half.
That was a nice one to talk about.
Right.
And I look up to the both of you so much.
You know, you're big sisters to me.
You're movement leaders.
You're gangsters.
You're...
The portal opened, right?
And how the whole community had to rush in to save D, right?
To save our black future, right?
Like, that's what was happening.
But it wasn't Hippolyta.
It's George Floyd's spirit holding it open.
Remember, we used to pretend like we weren't.
Had to pretend like we weren't.
Defund the police.
This is a budget issue.
And now we are talking about abolition.
Yeah, we kind of just mean abolition.
Why did they film this?
I don't know.
It's the dumbest thing.
I think they wanted to show off, or at least Patrice is the one who's on our channel.
I think they filmed it to show off the wealth.
I don't know what other motive they had at all.
It's so weird.
Like, they sat around sipping champagne, and there was more footage, but we don't have time for it, in which they're just talking about the fact that they got away with it.
And openly saying...
The George Floyd spirit thing made me cringe.
It's weird, isn't it?
It's like, he died and he opened a portal for us.
Remember when Nancy Pelosi said that thing, and she was like, thank you, George Floyd, for dying for...
Like, these people are...
They're so warped.
Like, I don't...
Dude, I have a general thing.
I don't like talking bad about people, in general.
Like, no...
We can literally say, like, yeah, we're deceitful, evil people.
Yeah, I'm just like, what is wrong with these people?
Like...
I try to generally live my life assuming most people have good intentions and that most people are at least decent.
And I think maybe that's why stuff like this bothers me so much when I'm just like, man, you are – these are bad people.
Like these are not good human beings.
Like it's frustrating and you've literally capitalized off of unfortunate deaths and tragedies of black people in America to grift hundreds of millions of dollars, raise money for your activists in the Democratic raise money for your activists in the Democratic Party to buy mansions, buy stocks, send millions of dollars to your baby father and your brother and your cousin and so on.
You've done nothing tangible.
To help black Americans or in inner cities or anything else.
There's drinking your champagne, talking about abolishing the police.
Like, you want to talk about champagne socialism?
This is literally, right?
Like, you're literally...
You got your little fancy finger sandwiches.
Oh, you saw the thing, you know, and they said they needed to spend over two million on security because they can't trust the police.
So we spent two million on security in 2020.
Whereas the average person, they usually have to rely on the police, so we'll abolish the police.
Yeah, of course.
We'll chill in our $6 million mansion with our private security guards, and we're good.
Like, I despise this.
Like, this is...
Oh, man.
I'm actually kind of biting my tongue a little, because this is so...
It's like this is everything wrong.
This is like every...
This is why I want to show you the footage.
Yeah, this is like every issue people have with this type of...
Performative, disingenuous...
You know, this is not leftism.
These people call themselves Marxists, right?
And it's like, you've become a multi-millionaire off of...
Capitalizing off of black people's deaths.
Yeah.
You've literally...
A six million dollar...
A six million dollar mansion, that's not like a...
That's not even a one million, like a six million dollar mansion.
Oh, that's just one of them as well.
And you've...
The whole thing is – it's just gross, man.
It's like, look, if you want to be rich, be a capitalist, start a business, become an entrepreneur, make some money above the board in a decent way by providing a product and a service that you want.
I'm big on people.
I'm big on capitalism.
I'm big on entrepreneurship.
I have no problem with people making money.
But when you literally scam people.
It's just gross, man.
To make money.
You capitalize off something.
Imagine someone starts a GoFundMe, right?
Someone starts a GoFundMe and says, oh, it's for- For BLM to fight racism.
Yeah.
Someone says, we're having a GoFundMe to help children with cancer and our goal is to raise a million pounds.
And then they raise a million pounds and they take that million pounds and they go and they start buying Rolex watches for themselves.
I was a Lamborghini or whatever.
Like, that is disgusting.
That's despicable.
You joke, but Biden actually did that.
Biden?
Yeah.
We did a story.
It's ages ago.
I don't have the links because I wouldn't think it would come up.
But yeah, he ran a charity for kids with cancer, did a bunch of fundraising dinners, raised I think it was about $10 million.
97% of the money was spent on salaries and all of the staff were literally his friends.
It's so wild, man.
It's unbelievable.
But I also think your advice about making money is terrible advice.
If you want to make money, become a Marxist.
I'm sorry, but every Marxist we ever talk about on this show, it always turns out to be a millionaire within the week.
It's unbelievable how fast this seems to happen.
If we go to the next one here, we also have some other clips I thought would be funny, because Candace Owens decided to release this footage of going to one of the mansions, presumably maybe the $6 million one, maybe another one, who knows.
And tried to talk to them back in the day, and yeah, Patrice decided to then lie about the whole thing, because of course she did.
Let's play this clip.
This morning I woke up to Candace Owens being outside of my house with a news crew.
She was demanding that I come outside.
Hello.
Um, I was just looking to speak to whoever is at this property because it's listed as the Black Lives Matter property.
Sir?
Hello?
The fact that she's came outside my house and demanded things harassed me is unacceptable.
We're not trying to harass you.
We'll gladly leave.
We're just wondering if we can speak to anybody?
Y'all, I really need my family to be safe.
I need to be safe.
I need my child to be safe.
And this, what happened this morning is not safety.
Thank you, sir.
Have a great day.
Oh, my gosh.
I've got the tears.
My family needs to be safe.
Just go to one of the other mansions then, if you're so scared of Candice.
I don't think Candice is going to harm your kid.
I really don't.
I don't think she gives a s*** about your kid.
Unbelievable.
Absolutely liars.
Like, pathological.
Real insane.
Not just liars, criminals.
Yeah.
This is criminal.
Like, I mean, I don't know all the laws of the United States, but I'm pretty sure it's not legal to run a non-profit and take donations that are supposed to go to a certain place and then just, like...
Embezzle them and use them.
They're running expenses.
I'm pretty sure that that is not allowed.
I really hope not.
Because we're not talking small sums of money either.
Does anyone know how much BLM has raised over the years in total?
It was 90 million.
Wasn't that just 2020?
Oh, it's just 2020.
I think that was just 2020.
I don't think the 2021 numbers are even in, and that's going to be another like 100.
I think it's like hundreds of millions.
I think it's fair to say hundreds of millions.
I think I'm probably right.
Right?
Where has that gone?
Like...
I mean, guess.
I mean, this is not a complicated question.
If you're running a charity and you raise $100 million, it's a fair question.
Where did that money go?
Look, it was a good portal, alright?
Don't ruin a good thing.
Yeah.
That's the argument.
That's a lot of money.
money, you should be able to tangibly show what you've done with that.
If I say I'm raising 100 million pounds to help orphans or to help the homes, I should have some receipts.
I should be able to show, okay, look, we have helped to house X number of people.
This is who they are.
This is where they are.
This is how the money spent.
Yes, this much went to salaries and expenses and travel, this small percentage.
And then this went here.
This went there.
Well, that's the thing.
We have the tax returns.
We have the receipts.
They're just not really evident on actually helping anyone, except themselves.
We've got the next one.
This is the $6 million home I was mentioning earlier.
This is where they defended it and said, oh, it's a campus.
I don't know if you can play this clip here, John, without the audio, just because it's like a real estate movie, where they're just like, look at the place.
It's got all its pools, and they had parking for like 23 cars or something.
Stupid.
This is on top of all the ones she got for herself.
Remember, she's got five homes just for herself.
This one was in her name as a director of BLM, which is totally different than owning it herself, I'm sure.
They raised it so they could use it as a space for videos.
They used it all of twice for that purpose in a year.
It's a real worn-out place being used for its purpose, I'm sure.
It's a nice house.
Yeah.
It's very nice.
I'm sure her and her kids love it.
Anyway, if you want to pause that video just so it doesn't auto-play anything.
Black Joy Creators Fellowship.
Yeah, it's such an obvious BS. I mean, they're creating Black Joy just for a very small number of people.
Look, you know, Black Joy for a very small number of people.
Still not Joy.
I mean, that's what it was about.
We go to the next one, we then have the money she's siphoned off to her wife, girlfriend, I'm not even sure.
This is in Canada.
I didn't know about this one.
This was another...
What was this?
This was $6.3 million on top of that that she siphoned from the main group off to her wife's group of BLM, which is totally different and not connected to her, even though she's married or pegging the woman.
And she spent it on this building here.
You want to know the history of this building?
It's very curious.
Black Lives Matter transferred millions to a Canadian charity run by the wife of its co-founder who had purchased a sprawling mansion that had once been the headquarters of the Communist Party.
Oh.
I love that as well.
Just the Communist Party also used to- Oh, right.
Okay, wait.
So they got the $6 million in mansion in Los Angeles.
They had the $6 million in Toronto, $3.2 million on homes in Georgia on Los Angeles- So that's four at least.
So we're counting up those 90 million.
We're getting where they're going at least.
I read yesterday that they spent 32 million on stocks, buying stocks.
We'll get into that in a bit, but it's just the fact that they, I love how it's like rightist fanfiction, which is like, did you know that BLM are buying the Communist Party headquarters in Canada?
No one's gonna believe this.
I was like, no, it's actually real.
It's too good.
It's too good.
It sounds ridiculous.
But yeah, there's that.
Very on the nose.
If we go to the next one, there's something I wanted to mention because I saw you tweeting about it, which is that you back in 2020 said you don't support BLM. And then I saw you retweeting it.
And then I got killed for this.
Yeah, I saw you retweeting it and you said, it's funny to go read some of the responses.
I didn't get a chance to go through it, but I wondered, what's the funniest one you found looking Dude, this wasn't funny.
I want people to know how serious this was.
I have over 130,000 tweets.
I've been on Twitter for many years.
I'm pretty vocal.
And a question I get asked by people is, have you ever had any issues in your personal life from being so outspoken or whatever?
The answer is typically no.
This, of all my tweets, this one is the exception.
This is the one that, forget just people on Twitter, like, this caused a lot of personal strife for me.
In your family?
Yes.
Wow.
Family, close friend, like, people I genuinely love and care about, and, you know, I don't want to go into it in too much detail, but, like...
This, like me saying I don't support the Black Lives Matter organization – by the way, in the second tweet, I clarify – I think the capital B, capital L, capital M in the quotes is quite clear that I am talking about an organization or a specific movement, not the statement.
I clarify that in the second tweet, which follows up, saying specifically I am talking about the organization.
To be super duper clear, I am talking about the organization, not the statement.
Obviously, I am a black guy from a black family.
I am very well aware before 2020 that my life matters and my parents' life and my family and lots of my friends and so on.
But yeah, this was...
It was nasty.
I mean, you can see...
If you look at the quote tweets and some of the...
You can see all kinds of nasty comments aimed at me.
But that's the thing.
I remember back.
This was very serious.
I was too early.
I was just too early.
That's all it was.
But people were just walking on glass.
And yeah, I mean, especially...
People were so jacked up in their emotions.
You have to remember, this is June 2020.
Jacked up on emotion people were at this point.
This is – like the lockdowns have been going on for a few months.
There's the whole corona panic.
George Floyd dies, what, a couple weeks before this and everyone around – so many people around the world are just like inflamed in this.
You've got cities burning.
You've got people rioting, protesting.
All this BLM stuff is flowing through the world.
So for me to put that up at that time, like looking at it in hindsight, people are like, yeah, fair enough.
I'm like, dude, you do not know.
This was like going completely against the grain at this point.
And I knew I was going to get some pushback, but it blew up like completely in my face.
I didn't take it down because I stand by this 100% and I was like, I believe what I'm saying.
As you're saying, it certainly paid off.
Two years later.
Yeah, but nobody's apologized.
Nobody said, you know what, Zuby, I'm sorry for what I said to you.
Or I'm sorry that I see what you were getting at.
Well, that's dumb.
Hopefully they can see the reality.
Yeah, I'm not one of those people who's like, yes, I must be vindicated.
By the way, I've been vindicated in all the COVID stuff as well.
Because again, my takes on this were not popular in early 2020 when I was saying that this lockdown is a terrible idea and is going to cause...
Lots of long-term damage and it's going to be worse than the virus itself and none of this is making sense and we're overreacting.
None of that was popular.
But now people are like, oh, maybe we overreacted.
Maybe this inflation and mental health issues and childhood development issues.
This isn't good.
I'm like, oh, if only someone maybe suggested that maybe we shouldn't shut down the world for like years.
Simple things.
Yeah, maybe we shouldn't.
Just do all this nonsense.
So, yeah, I like being right, but both of these two kind of, the I told you so doesn't even feel all that great.
No, it never does.
Because I'm just like, man, the damage was done.
But did you get any, like, because you said this is very personal, but did you get anyone who ever at least even said, okay, maybe I was wrong?
You see them flip on it?
No, nobody saw my perspective.
The thing is, the thing with 2020 is it was weird because a lot of people didn't know anything about BLM. Like, a lot of people think BLM started in 2020.
My main knowledge was about the Dallas shooting, frankly.
Yeah, BLM's been going on for many years.
Yeah.
Right?
And it's been...
And I looked into it early.
I looked into it, like, in mid to late 2010s.
So, like, this wasn't some new organization or movement to me.
They got really popular, did their thing, and then Dallas happened in which a black supremacist shot a bunch of white cops.
I think that was actually some Asian people.
I mean, that was under Obama.
That was in the Obama era.
And then it just disappeared.
Yeah.
So it's been going for a while and I looked into it.
I knew it was run by Marxists.
I knew that it had like – it's got this whole like LGBT thing attached to it which has nothing to do with black lives.
They talk about overthrowing capitalism and abolishing the police as those women were saying and – You know, they've got the whole, like, everything is white supremacy mentality and black people are victims.
They're against the nuclear family.
They're very pro-abortion.
They're in favor of, like, a lot of stuff that I'm not in favor of and that I directly oppose.
So, despite the fact of the name, I was like, well, this is not, this thing is not legit, right?
And I've known that for years.
I love puppies, but then, I don't know, you go out murdering people.
Yeah.
You're not a good guy.
Yeah, and none of these conversations would be happening if it were not for the cement.
I must say, to give them some credit, it probably is the smartest named entity ever.
Because if it was called anything else, if it was called anything else, we wouldn't even be having these conversations.
If the organization was called Black Marxists of America, BBMA, Right?
And I wrote that tweet and I said, I don't support Black Marxists of America.
You'd be like, duh.
Right?
No backlash, whatever.
It's just because they picked the name of a phrase that you cannot disagree with.
Okay.
And a phrase which I do agree with, but it's semantically overloaded.
So if you say, I don't support Black Lives Matter, people are like, what?
You don't believe Black Lives Matter?
You don't support black people?
It's like, dude, don't be freaking stupid, right?
You know that, like...
But that's the thing, you know, we had the similar thing in the UK. I mean, there was that kid who wrote, what was it, White Lives Matter?
Like, he flew the plane over?
Oh yeah, and that was controversial.
His whole life has been destroyed by that.
Yeah.
And this shows how dumb our society is at this point.
Right?
Like, look, I have a general rule that if you can say something...
I just have like a replacement rule.
Right?
Especially applying to racism.
Okay?
So if you replace the word black or white, whatever, with...
Just replace it with any other word.
Okay?
And see how it sounds.
So if someone says...
If someone goes on Twitter and is like, white men are trash.
It's like, okay, replace the word white with any other race or ethnicity.
I love doing it with Jews because you end up with literal Hitler quotes.
Yeah, with anything.
You can just switch it.
And it's like, okay, so Black Lives Matter, someone's saying that's fine.
It's like, okay, so Asian Lives Matter.
Are you okay with that?
All right, what about White Lives Matter?
And people are like, no, that one's triggering.
It's like, why?
All right, we're supposed to have this equal society.
We're supposed to have this society.
So if it's problematic in one way, it should be problematic in any, right?
If someone says, if I stand on stage and I put a fist up and I say, I say, black power, right?
And then someone says, Asian power, Jewish power, white power, like it gets kind of so, and people should maybe reflect on that and be like, hmm, okay.
If it sounds really weird and uncomfortable and even outright racist in some ways, then maybe there's something weird about this here.
You know, there's actually a Google plugin that will do that for you.
Oh, okay, great.
It changes, um, what is it, whiteness to Jewry and, like, white to Jew on every page.
Oh, good grief.
But then, like, you install it and you think, ah, it can't be that bad.
And then you, like, go to Vox.com.
Horrible.
Horrible.
Like...
Horrible.
Literally, like, Nazi vibes.
It's like you're reading the Daily Stormer on everything in the lab.
Yeah, it's terrible.
Yeah, people say things like, you know, whiteness is violence.
We need to abolish whiteness.
Whiteness is a demonic force that must be destroyed.
It was the most recent one.
Like, again, again, replacement rule.
Yeah.
Replace that with...
Black people.
Replace that with Jewish people.
Replace that with Asian people.
Replace it with Native American.
Any other group, you sound insane and genocidal.
I can't just did it once, didn't you?
She retweeted someone and said, why just be destroyed?
I think it was black people instead, and she got banned.
I'm not surprised.
And then they had to reinstate it because they were like, oh, wait.
This is the exact point, you know?
And that's, again, this is why these people get on my nerves so much because it's so frustrating.
It's like, look, I have just certain values and principles and they operate in all directions.
Okay?
So, I think racism is bad.
I think it's wrong to...
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's 2020.
It's 2022.
That is a divisive opinion.
It's 2022.
So, just like I need to say that men can't get pregnant, we need to say some things very explicitly and clearly, right?
And when I say that, I mean by the notion that you hate someone or unfairly discriminate against someone or segregate them or enslave them or commit violence against them...
Based on the immutable characteristic of their ethnicity or their race or their nationality, this is a terrible idea.
But it's okay to do to white people.
But if it's done, it's like no, period.
That's it.
Whichever direction it flows in, I don't want someone saying like this about black people.
I don't want them saying about white people, Jewish people, Asian people, whatever.
And you so-called super woke progressives who claim to be all anti-racist.
These are the most racist people in the West right now.
These are, they're the worst.
Like, there are people who mean well.
There are, within that, some people who mean well.
I don't know what the percentage is, but...
But, like, it's so maddening.
I'm just like, you're making everything worse.
You're literally moving society backwards.
We got to this nice, like, it's only been a few decades where actually society has been as tolerant and non-racist and non-homophobic and non-sexist and whatever.
Like, it's only been a few decades that, like, that's been achieved to, like, a real, you know, good degree.
Right?
Like, you can just go back to, like, 1950s, 40s, 30s, 20s.
Like, yeah, the world was pretty nasty back then, right?
Like, if you were, you know, we wouldn't...
But also, it's not all the...
80 years ago, we, you know, wouldn't be in this room having this conversation.
Like, it would be, you know...
No, you know, like, that's not allowed kind of thing, right?
It used to be illegal for people to freaking go on dates or get married with people who were from...
In the United States, yeah.
Yeah, literally, anti-miscegenation.
Like, that's not that long ago.
And it's like, it's a great triumph that we've gone past.
So let's not go back to it.
The great triumph is making all this damn money.
So we'll end this off.
We're over time, but let's go to the next one.
If we just read some of this, which is the fact that she gave, as you were referencing, about a million dollars for her baby father for his creative services.
Creative services, I love that.
That's one way of putting it.
$800,000 to her brother for security.
I'm sure he's very good at his security.
A fellow director got $2.1 million.
And also, she repaid to the organization $70,000 for a chartered flight.
Well, thank you.
She repaid for the flight.
They also say in here that the filing also received the colors reimbursed for the flight and paid the foundation $390.00.
Not $390, no, $390 for the use of the private mansions that were $600.
So she brought the $600 mansion with the BLM money.
$6 million.
Sorry, $6 million.
Sorry.
She brought $6 million with the BLM money and then paid the organization 300 buckaroos to be like, thanks for letting me stay in it.
Oh, good.
Oh, wonderful.
It's not hers at all.
Very generous of her to pay for that, in fact.
Creative accounting.
Real creative accounting.
There's also the $32 million in stocks that they brought.
$32 million in stocks?
For sure.
I thought they brought some Bitcoin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So wild, man.
There's also the fact that she has the whole company registered in Delaware because it's a tax haven in the United States amongst the states.
There's also the fact that she is the only member on the board for quite some time, which is beautiful.
Apparently that's allowed under Delaware law, so fantastic.
However, the board members allege that's not true.
$42 million in net assets.
Yeah.
A lot more houses is what she's done there.
I mean, it just goes on and on.
We don't even have time for it.
Yeah, look, look.
$90 million received in donations in 2020.
That's it.
In 2020.
That's a lot of money.
A lot of McDonald's money.
But then just the quote from them in response to all of this information coming out.
So there's some lady, something gay, which makes me laugh, but whatever.
She says, quote, we are decolonizing philanthropy.
So I'm sure someone's already done this.
But if not, someone should just make like a lefty buzzword, buzzphrase generator.
Yeah.
Where like they just mash these because they just speak in psychobabble now.
It's ridiculous.
But she goes on to say, as a board, we have been charged with disrupting traditional standards of what grant-making and philanthropy looks like.
It means investing in black communities and trusting them with their dollars.
But the thing is, like, what she's saying there is we've gotten rid of the checks and balances you would usually put on a loan, and that's decolonizing the philanthropy.
It's like, no, you're going to end up putting them in bankruptcy because they can't pay back the loan, presumably, unless you're just handing out money because whatever, which, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised by either.
But anyway, if we go to the next link here, we just have Nigel Farage, who is also an individual who is not really smug, but sort of just, you know, I was right, screw you, because I don't know if you know, but he lost his position at LBC because of this.
Oh, it was because of criticizing BLM? Yeah, he wouldn't go along with it.
Oh, you know what?
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that was the reason.
But that was the reason he didn't get his contract renewed, because the backlash to him being like, how dare he?
I know someone who got, oh gosh, what's his name off the top of my head?
There was the guy in Manchester.
I had him on my podcast.
Oh, no.
I don't want to forget his name.
Nick Buckley, who ran this charity in Manchester.
Great guy.
Yeah, and he got pushed out of it because he – and his charity was literally helping – The homeless.
Helping homeless people, including a lot of minority people up in Manchester.
And he got pushed out because he was not a fan of BLM. No.
He also doted that.
But if he's not the only one, Nudge Paras also lost it.
Interesting.
We skip on this.
If we go to the next one, just remember this crap from the police.
Yep.
Oh my gosh.
It was so embarrassing.
It was terrible.
There's that picture of Keir Starmer and that lady as well.
But we don't have time for it.
So it's just the last one here, which is about the Marxist matter.
Remember Nancy Pelosi and them in the Kente cloth?
Yes.
But remember you said earlier about if you want to make money, become a capitalist?
Big no.
So this is just JREG's meme about it, which is like, oh, I'm a humble left-wing YouTuber.
Please donate to my Patreon for my one-bedroom apartment.
Here we go, the next one, one year later.
I'm now a libertarian.
Except it's not kind of true, to be honest.
I feel like if you want to make money...
Yo, he's killing it.
I'm thinking on the...
100%.
For being a quarter million dollars a year.
But there are people who make that money.
There are leftists who make that money, who endlessly whine about socialism.
So there you have it.
There's BLM's tax returns.
They ain't pretty, that's for sure.
Let's go to the video comments.
There's also the fact that Nick Buckley will be at the Free Speech Matters event on the 30th of July in Manchester, in which Carl will also be speaking.
I see John writing out.
We interviewed Nick.
He's a great guy.
Let's go to the video comments.
Regarded as the founder of modern Japanese management, Konosuke Matsushita founded his business in 1918 and its corporate mission in 1932.
Not for Bread alone outlines his ethical insights into the leadership of a company that encompasses brands like National, Technics and Panasonic, for whom I helped develop mobile phones in the UK. Published in 1984, he warns against leadership diverging from the main purpose of industry, to help bring happiness by reducing poverty.
Woke CEOs of today might do well to acquaint themselves with his teachings.
That's a great point.
I mean, we did cover this with the ethical companies thing.
I don't know if you heard the term stakeholder capitalism.
I've heard the term.
I don't specifically know.
I despise it.
So Milton Friedman gave this argument against it back ages ago, like decades ago, which is like, no, the purpose of the company is to make money.
Go there and make some goddamn money.
Because the way you'll make money, if you're honest, is you'll help people.
Whereas stakeholder capitalism is like, oh, we have to take into account all the different people affected by the company, which then means that like the local bakery in Swindon owes a duty of care to like the Vietnamese farmer because we share the same climate.
Gotcha.
It leads to all kinds of nonsense conclusions, and it's very much in the vein.
Let's go to the next one.
Regarding the Handmaid's Tale segment we did yesterday, I'd like to point out that the state actually does pay women to have more children under what the U.S. state does.
And the fact that for every child they have, they get more money, it's very much a thing.
I suppose that's technically true.
Yeah, it is.
It's our resident doctor who keeps us informed on anything.
Let's go to the next one.
On the subject of pizza nationalism, did you guys have Discovery Zone in such places when you were kids?
I mean, they're basically just a really big version of Chuck E. Cheese, although they had laser tag and weird rubber band crossbow courses.
Although that sounds actually very dangerous in hindsight.
It's one of the many things lost with the 90s.
Concurrently, does it feel like outdoor playgrounds have been getting worse and worse?
Like, when I was a kid, this is what I grew up with, but in the 2000s, it got torn apart and replaced with some multi-colored metal monstrosity that kind of looks just generic and mass-produced.
Kind of reflects why no kids want to play outside anymore.
Well, in the UK, they've replaced them with those weird exercise machines that are meant to be part of the park now, which don't really work as a park.
So, it's all real dumb.
I don't know what the hell Discovery is.
Do you have that?
No, not Discovery Zone.
In Saudi?
In Saudi, there was a place called Fun Zone or something.
It was actually really similar to that.
I don't think it was that brand, but there was something very similar.
I never had that.
Pizza Hut Nationalism.
The ball pits and slides and stuff like that, yeah.
He was referencing Pizza Hut nationalism.
I don't know if you've seen Jack Posobiec talk about this.
Talk about?
Pizza Hut nationalism.
I haven't, no.
So basically, he's looking back at the old Pizza Huts, where they used to put a tablecloth out, and the chair would have a cushion in it, so you were comfy, and they'd care about you.
Whereas now, if you go to a restaurant, it's like a prison building, where they just want you to get out.
The chairs are all just pure plastic, all that crap.
Yeah, we've gone – I think society is always moving both forwards and backwards, which is interesting.
We've moved forward in many ways, some of which we've discussed, but then also things simultaneously regress in other areas.
We can't sit in a McDonald's for more than two minutes before getting hurt.
See the next one.
So Kyle, you probably should watch Time A's Tale.
I had to because I was with one at the time, but two things that I draw from it are – Deferred it in me thinking that this feels very 50-50, it's just a greatie.
And the second one being that the author seems to at least understand and know that women abusing their privileges is going to lead to a lot of trouble.
The results will probably be different than the clues that she thinks it is going to end up being, but there will still be trouble though.
Those are my thoughts.
I didn't really understand you very well.
I didn't catch that one.
But in regards to women abusing their privileges, yeah, definitely is true.
You can see it in many workplaces, which is women have a power that men don't about sex.
Speaking of which, do you see that clip that went, I think it was yesterday, some OnlyFans thought, went on a podcast and just openly said, yeah, so I got banned from Instagram multiple times, but she would just hook up with people who work at Instagram in their integrity board and would just Integrity board.
Does anything mean what it's meant to?
She would have sex with these integrity people who had such integrity that they would get her ban overturned when they did.
Men can't do that.
You could, but you'd need some serious game.
Yeah, which I don't think we have the same advantage.
Let's go to the next one.
Okay.
Probably what we had to change.
Yeah, definitely.
Basically just a bunch of people listening, a bunch of North Vietnamese war crimes.
And then the point just being, America did nothing wrong, which I'm very much on board with.
Especially, I've studied a lot of the Korean War as well.
And people like to argue that the Americans committed all these war crimes, especially the North Korean government, of course.
And there's not really anything except the Bonning campaign, you could argue.
I'll be honest, I don't know very much about the Vietnam-Korean Wars.
Don't worry about it.
But it's just like, you know, there'll be some communist revolution and the Americans will go in and put it down.
And they'll be like, that's a war crime.
No, it's not.
Like, they were literally shooting at the local administration.
The next one.
Yeah, I just have to agree with what John said yesterday.
Autism is not a superpower.
Please stop romanticizing it.
I'm autistic myself, so believe me, if there was a magic pill I could take that would just cure it, make it go away instantly, you couldn't stop me from taking it.
It's almost as if the price is not too high or something.
It really is.
It really sucks.
Yeah, I would say on most cases you're probably right, but there is a certain instance, like a kind of weird obsession that people have.
I don't know if it's autism or Asperger's or something.
We were talking about, you know, like 4chan's or weaponized autism.
How they're able to, like, you know, harass Shia LaBeouf into early retirement by figuring out where flags are and stuff like that.
And there is value to that.
I don't know if it's correct to call autism, though, but that's just the internet term we ended up using.
Let's go to the next one.
If our enemies cling to books, why, we should as well.
What are they talking about?
Now then, I need to get to organizing all these wires.
What?
I'll have to give some more Highline a read.
I didn't know he wrote that.
That sounds fun.
But yeah, he's got like a big-ass mech that he walks around in and keeps showing us updates on.
So I guess if the state ever annoys him, he's going to do a killdozer on them.
Yeah, okay.
That seemed a bit concerning there.
Go to the next one.
Hey guys, calling BS on the notion that programming is such a difficult and taxing job that it can only be done four hours a week?
Bullshit.
I've been able to code for sometimes up to 15 hours straight.
The problem is, you have to actually give a s*** about the project that you're working on.
Yeah, that's definitely true.
I can't imagine many of the people at Twitter care.
There was a leaked footage of a guy who said that he worked four hours a week for Twitter.
Good hustle.
A real good hustle.
I mean, he did nothing, but...
Well, except leaking that apparently they're all extremists, which was nice of him to do.
Everyone's the communist when they...
Go to the next one.
I think people are missing a very important detail of this Project Veritas stuff.
If you want to meet a very attractive, based young lady, get a job at Twitter.
We targeted within the week.
I suppose there we are.
Project Veritas Honeydruck.
If you're in Los Angeles or whatever and you want to find a base girlfriend, go work for Twitter.
Let's go to the next one.
Tony D and Little Joan with another legend of the Pines, the Gloucester County Courthouse in Woodbury, New Jersey.
Built in 1885, the courthouse is still in use today.
It used to have a jail, and in that jail, a prisoner hung himself.
When crews were remodeling, they saw a man in prison garb.
Skulking around, he was in the kitchen area where the prisoner used to work, and they felt cold, and they saw strange glowing orbs.
Even in the afterlife, they don't let you out of jail.
This is the chap who keeps telling us, like, endless ghost stories, and I really do mean endless.
Like, he's shown us the list.
He started doing ones for Swindon, and I had to ask him to stop, because he'd been getting a bit close to my house.
And I was a bit like, please, I don't want the...
He's good on the way to work.
Let's go to the next one.
Oh, wait, no.
I think that is the answer.
We have the written comments on the site.
So, first one here being from Theodore Pinnock.
Really enjoying Zooby being on.
He has something substantive and substantial to say between every bit of content.
So, on Posey Parker's section, General Hyping says, Do we have any evidence that Posey is not a feminist other than her saying so?
As always, a person's views can change, but most of her arguments used to devolve into something just being the fault of men, women's clubs great, but men's clubs not allowed, etc.
I'm just not convinced that she's not just rebranding because the word feminist became so unpopular.
Other than her pushback against the trans lobby, her ideals seem to align with feminism.
Zuby, you're also a woman, so what's your view?
I don't like that.
Because you get privilege on this.
Yeah.
I mean I think I've spoken to her about this.
I mean she considers herself a women's rights advocate and I think she recognizes the word feminism has been hijacked and it no longer means what it was originally supposed to.
I think she'd probably call herself an old school feminist or perhaps a radical or first wave feminist depending on the terminology.
But – I mean, what does the word mean in 2022?
Well, it means those who accept trans ideology.
Exactly.
So, no, she's not that.
So, I mean, women's rights advocate is totally fair.
It says what it does on the tin.
That's what she does.
That's what she spends her time doing.
That's what her merchandise is about.
I think that's who she is.
I think it is right to say she's a bit obsessed with the women's perspective and everything, but that's not really unjust, considering that she's leading a women's rights organization.
She's obsessed with this topic.
It's her specific...
She's an activist-slash-advocate for that particular issue, and that's what she's chosen to spend the last several years raising awareness about.
But correct me if I'm wrong, though, because I remember, or at least I remember her discussion with Carl, there's an interview she did on those years, where she, they did have the argument about men zoning spaces.
I think she did concede in the end, but yeah, it's probably a good idea.
Yeah, I don't know on that.
I can't speak for her.
I think that she might have.
So correct me if I'm wrong.
But let's go to the Taylor Lorenz stuff.
So Andrew Narek says, What a barefaced lie by Lorenz.
What powers would the disinformation board have if not the power to declare what is supposedly true or not?
It's blatantly implied in the very name of the organization.
It's ridiculous.
It's like fact checkers.
And we'll end on this from Kevin Fox.
Kevin Fox says, Yeah, I can't remember the guy who got shot.
It was some other BLM martyr where he died and then the mother held a thing.
Her name's Simpson.
I don't know if that rings a bell.
But she was literally joined by members of BLM Global Fund or whatever.
And then she had to do a GoFundMe for five grand to just get her son buried at the funeral.
And the person from the organization that got 90 million turned up and was like, please donate to her funeral, and then left.
Oh.
You got 90 million.
If anyone should be donating that five grand, it's you guys.
You could do that for them.
And didn't even do that.
Didn't even do that.
It's ridiculous.
Anyway, we'll end up on some last ones here.
So Svidan says, Zuby, do you have a voice like a cup of...
Sorry.
You have a voice like a cup of Horlicks, warm, rich, and censored, rather creamy.
I don't know if I wanted to read that one.
I've read it now.
Thank you.
And we'll end on something that was probably less creepy.
Lord Naravar, so you were talking about BLM on GB News earlier, Zuby, and the way you handled it was flawless.
Much respect, dude.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
That's also less, like, sexual harassment.
So, we'll end on that.
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