Good afternoon and welcome to podcast episode 323 of the podcast The Lotus Eaters I'm your host Harry, joined today by my guest Carl.
Hello!
And today we're going to be talking about a few things.
We're going to be talking about how Joe Rogan is definitely a racist and deserves to be cancelled.
About Jimmy Carr being the free speech preserter.
Also a racist and needs to be cancelled.
Yes.
And how all of the honkers over in Canada are all racists and need to be cancelled.
I'm noticing a pattern here.
Yeah, we've got quite a thematic through line going through this podcast.
But before we get into any of that, I've got some announcements to share with you all.
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You wouldn't expect from the YouTube comments on that interview that he did, but he's been with us a long time with his latest article talking about the fall of the Shires, which I believe he's spoken to me about.
It's talking about the...
The rewilding efforts that are going into the UK at the moment, which are not really in keeping with the history of the English countryside in the slightest, where they're trying to reintroduce, like...
Dangerous animals.
Yeah, I don't want wolves in the woods, no thank you.
Exactly.
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Now I've gone through all that, time to get into it.
So, when all else fails, call your opponent a racist, is the tactics that's being applied to Joe Rogan at the moment.
So you may be aware that we've covered this quite a lot.
You can go watch our previous coverage on YouTube or on various podcasts, where he was accused of spreading disinformation, and Rogan put out a confident video dismissing their concerns.
And Spotify decided, well, let's put up some disclaimers on the COVID podcasts.
And the leftists who have tried to topple Rogan have been quite frustrated.
None of them have been successful so far.
There's a surprising paucity of people who have actually pulled their stuff from Spotify.
So The Sun has done a quick list here.
Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Nils Lofgren, India Ari, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Failure.
Well, to put a bit of musical knowledge in here, Crosby, Stills, and Nash were associated with Neil Young.
They were part of a big group together.
It was Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.
So they might just be sticking by him.
Even though, as far as I'm aware, they all hate each other fiercely, as most bands do.
Yeah, there were some other people who were apparently notable, like authors and stuff.
Brené Brown, Mary Trump, and Roxane Gay.
Now, Roxane Gay was the only one of these I'd heard about.
I'd have heard of.
She wrote a book called Bad Feminist.
Well, do you not know Mary Trump?
No.
She's Trump's niece, whose entire career so far has been built off of writing books.
Yeah, whining about him.
Right.
But anyway, so the New York...
No, sorry, Rolling Stone did an interview with her and talked about this.
And she was just tweeting out, well...
And it was really, really sad, to be honest.
It was kind of sad and pathetic because she realized that this is not going to actually be any part of the decisive movement.
As she says, it's not going to move the needle in any way.
It's like it's not.
And then she also says, I'm not trying to impede anyone's freedom to speak.
Joe Rogan and others like him can continue to proudly encourage misinformation and bigotry to vast audiences.
Great.
What are you whining about, then, if that's fine?
Great.
They will be well rewarded for their efforts.
These platforms sharing these rewards can continue to look the other way.
But today, at least I won't.
Self-cancelling feminists.
Love it.
Love to see it.
But anyway, then it got a bit more extreme when the White House decided, actually, no, Spotify should do more about Joe Rogan.
Jen Psaki, after they put out the information they're going to put up, the COVID warnings, they were like, great, but you should do more.
Not exactly specifying what more should be done or more could be done actually means.
But yeah, so presumably the implication is Joe Rogan should probably be censored, which of course would be a violation of the First Amendment.
So they're just using their bully pulpit there to pressure them, but they can't really do anything.
I mean, she said that the company could take steps if it wanted to, to actively prohibit content.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Thank you, Jen.
And then you've got this really gross, shaming tactic that came out.
And this is an example from the Washington Post, where this person...
I can't remember the name of the person who wrote it.
Just scroll down a bit, John, just so we can see the author.
Some gross journo, basically.
Margaret Sullivan.
There we go.
She says, I'm disgusted by Joe Rogan's weak apology.
My former colleague's death at 47 makes it worse.
I don't think Joe Rogan held the cushion over your colleague's head, personally.
Well, we know he didn't.
Rogan's non-apology made me furious, probably because I've been spending a lot of time this week thinking about Miguel Rodriguez, a former colleague of mine.
It's like the Mexican equivalent of John Smith, who died of COVID last week.
He was overweight and asthmatic, in other words, very much at risk, and he was unvaccinated.
What's it got to do with Joe Rogan?
Yeah.
He made his own decision.
The results are what they are.
I mean, that was his decision.
I don't know for sure whether getting vaccination and boost shots would have saved his life.
I have no idea whether he'd ever listened to Joe Rogan's podcast or what his precise reasons were for not being vaccinated.
But it's still Joe Rogan's fault.
Why are you bringing Joe Rogan into this?
Anyway, on the other side, there are a bunch of celebrities who are supporting Joe Rogan.
So you've got a bunch of people that I've basically never heard of.
Kevin James, Jewel, Kat Von D, Troy Aikman, Jamie Kennedy, Andrew Schultz, DJ Cascade, Andrew Dice Clay, Michael Yeo, Jenny Farley, Kelly Slater, Marianne Williamson, and Tulsi Gabbard.
The last two were Democratic primary candidates to try and be the presidential candidate.
So at least I know who they are.
Um...
And one other notable on that list was The Rock.
That's right, Dwayne Johnson.
No, was.
Was on that list.
He had also, after Joe Rogan put out this first video, he'd said, Great stuff here, brother.
Perfectly articulated.
Looking forward to coming on one day and breaking out the tequila with you onto his podcast.
That's lovely.
And then this mysterious video showed up.
A mysterious N-word compilation of Joe Rogan saying the N-word.
It just came from nowhere, apparently, and it sort of rose to prominence when musician India Arie, one of the people who pulled their podcast from Spotify, posted this compilation to her Instagram story.
Now, she obviously didn't make the compilation.
She obviously found it somewhere.
Where'd it come from?
Well, this is where the opposition research comes in.
It apparently came from a Twitter account called Patriot Takes.
Yes, I've been seeing this being passed around on Spotify for a good few weeks at this point, and it seems that after the initial attempts to cancel Joe Rogan failed, all of a sudden, because this had been sort of in the public consciousness, they just picked up on this and went, well, this has just sort of been in replies so far.
Can't get him for COVID misinformation?
We'll get him for the N-word.
Yeah, so we're going to take these clips of him completely out of context, saying it, and then just say, obviously, this just means he's a racist.
Exactly.
So now, we already know from this who or what kind of people are behind this, right?
Because compilations of the N-word are like the nuclear button when it comes to progressives trying to get someone cancelled.
It's like, look, we were playing nice, you were just spreading COVID misinformation, but now you're calling all black people everywhere the N-word, as far as we're concerned.
And so, I love this, this is who the right is defending.
It's just like...
Yeah.
You believe in free speech.
Yeah, exactly.
And also, they've combed through so much, because Joe Rogan's got almost 2,000 podcasts.
You can see from the setup there, he's still got a full head of hair in some of these pictures, and a full beard, and he's sat on his couch in his living room.
These are from, like, 12 years ago at least.
Exactly.
You can see how old some of these are.
So who are Patriot Takes?
Who are they?
Where did they come from?
Well, if you get to their website, they claim that they're exposing right-wing extremism.
They say, our mission is to research, monitor, and expose the extremism and radicalization of the far right across the darkest parts of the internet.
So they're basically like an American version of Hope Not Hate.
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it?
And so they take on the far-right disinformation machine.
Your donations allow our researchers to stay vigilant and monitor far-right platforms.
They're a leftist advocacy group.
And in their Twitter bio, they say they're partnered with Midas Touch.
Well, who's Midas Touch?
Well, we'll get to the next one.
Midas Touch is, as you see, like all of these GOP hashtags, they're an active advocacy group against the Republicans.
That's what they are.
They are also a pack, a super pack, right?
They say, created in quarantine by three brothers, Midas Touch is a pro-democracy next generation super pack founded by three siblings and lifelong Democrats with the primary goals of protecting American democracy, defeating Trumpism, and holding Republicans accountable.
Right, so Democrat opposition researchers.
This is a transparent political hatchet job.
And we get some information about the actual guys.
One of the brothers is called Ben, and he represented Colin Kaepernick in his highly publicised lawsuit against the NFL, and led a class-action lawsuit against Billy McFarlane and the Fyre Festival.
Do you remember the Fyre Festival?
I remember the Netflix documentary being quite well-known about it.
I've not watched it, though.
I've got tangential details.
Don't worry, you don't need to.
But you can see the...
The waters in which they're swimming.
I can see the aura of soy emanating off all three of them.
There is also that.
Brett is a two-time Emmy Award-winning video editor and digital media strategist.
He was a video editor for The Ellen DeGeneres Show for over five years and ran a digital media and sports organization, blah, blah, blah.
OK, so he's the video editor for Ellen DeGeneres.
How did that all end up?
Well, it came down in flames, didn't it?
And Jordan is a marketing account supervisor based in New York City, responsible for running campaigns and activations with some of the world's top brands, including HBO, the NFL and AT&T. Corporates.
That's who these are.
Think cyberpunk.
Think the cyberpunk corpos.
That's what we're looking at here.
Partisan democrat corpos.
And they compiled this smear job against Joe Rogan, put it out on the internet, and now poof.
This is the scandal.
And so this came to The Rock's attention, of course, because why would The Rock have known anything about Joe Rogan prior to supporting him?
And so this is an author called Don Winslow, presumably also in the same circles.
Dear The Rock, you're a hero to many, and using your platform to defend Joe Rogan, a guy that used and laughed about using the N-word dozens of times, is a terrible use of your power.
Have you actually listened to this man's many racist statements about black people?
Could you provide any examples of them?
I mean, there's a compilation of the N-word.
That's not...
I agree, that's not proof that Joe Rogan's a racist.
But The Rock was like, oh, I see the hatchet job.
I may be ten foot tall and able to literally lift a house, but I'm also going to back away from this slowly like an absolute coward.
Thank you so much for this.
I hear that you, as well as everyone in here, 100%.
I was not a word of his N-word use prior to my comments, but now I've become educated to his complete narrative.
Learning moment for me.
God damn!
How can such a huge, strong, famous guy bend the knee so submissively?
It's so disappointing to see the rock of all people be so cooked.
All that trash-talking turned out...
It was all fake!
Your name is literally...
Well, your stage name is literally The Rock.
I think you'd be a bit more solid in your support, sorry.
Actually, The Play-Doh.
Anyway, so who's Don Winslow?
Well, he writes books.
Was he writing his books?
The N-word.
A lot.
Well, it's just constant use of the N-word.
Way more than Joe Rogan used it, but it doesn't matter, right?
Because that's not what this is about.
This is about repressive tolerance.
This is a blade that only cuts one way.
It doesn't matter that someone who has used the N-word in his writing over and over and over is going after Joe Rogan for saying the N-word occasionally in the last, like...
12 years or something, when it's in a particular context where they're talking about that offensive word.
Not calling a black person it, obviously.
But this doesn't matter.
And we explain why in the Repressive Tolerance podcast that we have on Lotuses.com.
So if you'd like to support us and find out what Repressive Tolerance is and why this blade only cuts one way, you can go sign up and support us and check that out.
But anyway, so after that, a compilation came out from The Young Turks, because people were like, well look...
It ain't just Joe Rogan who said the N word a lot.
Turns out like literally everyone on the Young Turks has said it.
Cenk, Anna and Hassan have all said the N word.
Not against black people, of course.
Just, again, in context, it's not that radical.
And you can see that a lot of these are quite old clips.
Again, just like the Roman.
Because if you go back, say, 10 or 15 years, if you were just saying it, like you weren't screeching it at a black person, if you were just saying it, it wasn't, like, verboten in the way that it's become now.
It's just having had said it means that that's an...
It's an irreparable stain on your reputation and will be for the rest of time.
And so this was going around, and as you see, quite a few people saw this.
And so Anna Kasparian basically had to come out and be reasonable for once.
Surprising.
That's a shock.
Back in the day, we had a policy on TYT when covering gross statements made by racists.
Instead of sanitising their quotes with the N-word, we would read the quotes verbatim.
Context does matter.
Cancel me if you like.
Don't care.
Well, you have to say that, really, when there are loads of clips of you going around saying it.
But at the same time...
It is true, yeah.
I am happy to see that she's at least standing by their former position and being reasonable about it because it could be very easy for her to just try and do the same sort of thing that a Don Winslow would do, which is either ignore it or come out and try and recontextualise it with, well, it's different when I do it, you know.
But again, the blade only cuts one way.
She's not under the cutting edge of the blade at the moment, so she can just stand elsewhere going, blah, blah, blah, cancel me, I don't care.
Well, she would care if the blade were to turn back on her, but of course she's a left winger, so it doesn't affect her.
Not that Joe Rogan is a right winger or something, but like, you know what I mean.
He's a Bernie bro.
Yeah, but he's also not part of the team.
There are people who are part of the team who spout the official gated narrative, and Anna Kasparin is one of them.
Joe Rogan is not one of them, and that's how this works.
And of course, Joe Biden has been saying the N-word in Congress or wherever, in the Senate.
And does it matter?
Of course it doesn't matter.
Why would that matter?
What difference does it make?
He's not the one in the line of cutting.
But anyway, you get other people like Bolsonaro, who's pro-N-word...
I'm not saying the ears are actually pro-N-word, but it's funny.
If freedom of speech means anything, it means that people should be free to say what they think, no matter if they disagree or agree with us.
Stand your ground.
Hugs from Brazil.
That's nice, isn't it?
But anyway, so what did Joe Rogan do?
He did the absolute wrong thing, sadly.
He did the worst thing, and he bent the knee.
Let's play the clip.
There's nothing I can do to take that back.
I wish I could.
Obviously, that's not possible.
I do hope that, if anything, that this can be a teachable moment.
Because I never thought it would ever be taken out of context and put in a video like that.
And now that it is, holy **** looks bad.
And it's part of also me doing this podcast for thousands of hours, thousands of episodes, over 12 years.
I said a lot of f***ing stupid s***, which is fine when you're talking about most things, but not when you're talking about race.
Right, so there we go.
He understands, oh my god, it's been cut up and it looks bad.
Yes, it looks bad.
That was going great up until that last bit.
Yes, when he totally concedes their point, which leads to a collapse of his ability to defend himself, and instead he has essentially embraced this smear as being legitimate.
When it's not legitimate, this is a political hack job done by a bunch of corpos who are Democrat fundraisers.
And as I understand it, they've raised millions as well.
It doesn't matter.
This is obviously something that's just been done to attack your character.
As if you haven't had loads of black guests on and whatnot and they don't think you're a racist.
No one up until this moment was saying Joe Rogan is a racist.
One of the most recent ones that I listened to was him talking with Snoop Dogg.
And they were getting on just fine.
Of course they were.
They were smoking a joint together in the...
In the studio, because of course they were.
Of course they were, because nobody thinks that Joe Rogan's a racist.
And so compiling all of his uses over the last decade or so of him saying the N-word, it looks bad, and that's why they did it.
And so what Joe should have done is attacked whoever made the smear job for producing the smear job, and for those people pushing the smear job, for pushing a smear job.
Because it is the act of pushing a smear job that is in and of itself morally reprehensible.
This would have given Joe a good place to push back from, because...
As we all know, there is no apology that is enough for these people, as CNN went on to beautifully demonstrate for us.
Let's play the next one.
There are reasons why Rogan has lots of fans, millions of fans.
People want to hear his candid conversations, but there's a difference between that, between candid, in-depth conversations, and the kind of vile that's in this compilation, Jim.
Right.
And it's not just like it happened one time.
It has happened repeatedly over the years.
And, you know, it seems to me he's going to have to do more than put out an apology video, a profanity-laced apology video, to put this matter to rest.
Then what's he going to have to do?
Grovel?
Eat dirt?
Cancel himself off Spotify?
I imagine that's what they want.
Exactly.
The whole not apologising thing is that by doing so, you're showing that in your own standards, you have done something wrong.
Yes.
And if you accept that you've done something wrong, then they're just going to go, right, so we were right to cancel you in the first place then.
Exactly.
It justifies everything that they've done up until this point, including the deceptive hit-piece smear job that they have clipped together to make you look bad, when in context none of these things were as bad as they're claiming, if bad at all.
And again, this is not a standard I particularly hold.
I don't think the use of the N-word is evil in every context.
I'm sorry, but then I'm not an American, so what do I know?
But of course, it goes on.
I mean, Spotify, now that the knee has been bent, the beatings will continue until morale improves.
They've pulled 113 episodes of the Joe Rogan podcast now.
So where does this end?
And it's a really bizarre list as well.
People like Kyle Kalinsky, Gadsad.
Well, do we know if every single one of those were ones where it was like he said the N-word or something?
Because I put that forward as a joke when we were discussing it at first, and then it was like, well, it looks like it might be, but I do also think some of them might have been guests who have gone like, well, I don't want my name associated with them anymore, potentially.
It's possible, but I haven't heard any reason to think that.
I've never heard anyone saying that.
It is very strange, and you are right, of where does this go?
Where does it stop?
Is 113 enough?
Is everyone happy now?
Until the next time, and now more have to be pulled.
But they make a point in this Forbes article that all except one of the episodes were recorded before the coronavirus pandemic, so it's unlikely that their removal was linked to his claims about COVID-19.
And this was Gad's sad story.
He's like, well, maybe it's the N-word that got these episodes pulled.
And it's like, okay, maybe.
And apparently they say it was Rogan's decision to remove the episodes after consulting with Spotify Bloomberg Reports.
So it seems that these may well be the episodes where the N-word is said in some context.
And Rogan, having conceded the point completely, just collapses entirely.
And the Spotify CEO is like, look, This is a slippery slope.
We sure we want to be on it.
It's like, well, you guys agreed to any of this.
You didn't have to agree to any of this.
Or if someone was coercing you, maybe you should have said so.
You know, if someone was holding something over you and your company.
So Spotify chief executive Daniel Ek has written a note to the company's employees stating that cancelling Joe Rogan was not the answer.
And remember there are a lot of people in Spotify who are leftist lunatics who want him cancelled.
Who never wanted him on there in the first place.
Exactly.
And they've had protests and things like this.
While I strongly condemn what Joe has said, and I agree with his decision to remove past episodes from our platform, I've realised some will want more.
And I want to make that one point very clear.
I do not believe that silencing Joe is the answer.
Well, you have paid 100 million for him, so I bet you don't think that's the answer.
We should have clear lines around content and take action when they are crossed, but cancelling voices is a slippery slope.
Looking at the issue more broadly, it's critical thinking and open debate that powers real and necessary progress.
Yeah.
Of course, this is your $100 million golden goose, but where is the line and why does it keep moving?
How are you going to draw a firm straight line?
If you can't do it with Joe Rogan, who can you do it with?
And remember, these people are not above cancelling anybody.
The council's sitting president, for Christ's sake.
There's absolutely no way they're going to look at another person and be like, well, that's definitely not a person who can be cancelled.
Anyone can be cancelled for opposing the institutional gated narrative.
And you've already given a lot of ground anyway.
And also, Eck also said he would commit $100 million to license and develop music and other audio projects from the historically marginalized communities.
So here's the tithe.
100 million.
I gave 100 million to Joe Rogan to be a normal person.
I'm going to give 100 million to radical leftists to promote that absolute garbage that nobody watches and is interested in.
This is literally a...
What's the jizia that the non-Muslims have to pay?
This is a non-Muslim tax, a non-progressive tax.
Just from a business perspective, that's a terrible idea.
Because you said to yourself, nobody watches this stuff.
We see from all the leftist media on HBO and Netflix and all that sort of stuff, you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on it, and nobody watches it, and you've tailored it specifically for these people who never watched it in the first place.
When you change all the superheroes, when you change all of the legacy media, these people don't care because they just wanted it as an act of submission.
Yes, that's exactly right.
And the thing is, and the worst part about all of this, is that Joe Rogan himself knows this.
As he said previously.
You made a really good point.
You said, the thing is, if you censor yourself just 1%, you say, I'll just censor myself 1%.
That's what they want.
I'm going to make them happy.
And then they're just going to keep moving it.
They're just going to keep moving it forward, moving the goalposts and providing you with more money and giving you more things, but keep moving it in a certain direction.
And if you keep giving into it, they're going to have a hold of you and they can control you.
Great point.
That's what they've got of Joe.
He's fallen exactly into that trap.
Yeah, he already knows they've lied about him, CNN lying about him in the past, they're just going to keep lying about you until you get what you want, which is why you do not give in.
Alright then.
So, Jimmy Carr has gotten himself in a little bit of trouble, telling some very naughty jokes recently.
Not even that recently, to be honest.
They've just come out in the past weekend, and it's become a huge thing that's a cultural turning point.
So this is where I first heard about this.
A gypsy author called Mikey Walsh, who I've never heard of before, who's got books called things like, I don't know, The Gypsy Who Rode the Bike and stuff like that.
presumably self-referential stories about him being a child, that was attached with this clip being very offended at a joke that Jimmy Carr said.
And just so that we can get the context out of the way, let's play that clip so we can hear what Jimmy said.
When people talk about the Holocaust...
Dangerous start.
When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine.
But they never mention the thousands of gypsies that were killed by the Nazis.
No one ever wants to talk about that because no one ever wants to talk about the positives.
It's a pretty spicy...
That is a very spicy joke, and for any law enforcement that's watching, we disavow that entirely.
We do.
But how long have you been watching Jimmy Carr?
I've known about him for probably about 15 years at this point.
I've seen him on all sorts of shows.
He shows up on all of the classic British panel shows.
He's been the host of 8 out of 10 Cats for who knows how long.
And I think one of the most notorious things about Jimmy Carr that everyone knows is that he's very spicy, very edgy, and he will do it all with the perfect deadpan straight face.
Just like you saw in the clip.
His entire shtick, really.
He's saying the most offensive things in the most understated and normal way in order to get the laugh from being as offensive as possible.
That's how he became famous.
This joke is not out of character, is what I'm saying.
Yes, exactly.
If we go back, Mikey Walsh, to that original tweet, yeah.
He says here, I don't know what I should be more gutted or disgusted by here.
The kind of racism that us GRT people are forced to live with every day.
You heard that right, GRT people.
That's still absolutely okay to demonize us and our demise as a joke.
All the reactions of whooping and cheering from the audience.
It was a joke.
That's what it was.
It was a joke.
But it's very interesting.
I'd never heard of this before, because it's the GRT people.
Which is very strange, because I understand that this guy, Mikey Walsh, is also part of the LGBT community.
I believe that he's gay.
Just to be clear as hell, I suspect that the audience are whooping and cheering because of the extremity of the joke.
Absolutely.
Like, this is not unusual, again, for Jimmy.
I mean, what would you expect going to Jimmy Carr?
You go to expect to be shocked.
Yes.
And the, I mean, just to put some context behind it as well, the special that this is taken from is literally called Jimmy Carr, His Dark Material.
What did you expect?
He prefaces a lot of these jokes by saying that these jokes are my career enders.
He even gave a weird trigger warning at the beginning of the special, so if you watched past that point, you know what you're getting into.
Everyone is open ground.
But it's very strange to see the gypsy Romani traveller people trying to organise themselves into a political lobby.
I mean, this guy, if he's part of the LGBT, has probably seen how effective it's been for other communities, and they've just decided, well, if we can get some political power from this, let's go ahead with it.
And we can see that it is working and drawing a lot of attention to this evil, nasty joke that's been told.
So if we move along...
The Traveller movement don't like it.
Hi Netflix, we asked you to remove Jimmy Carr, his dark material, from your platform.
Once again, what did you expect watching this?
Joking about the genocide of an ethnic minority is not funny.
It can be.
Well, it depends on the joke.
It can be.
If the joke is funny, yes, it can be.
We've got more groups trying to cancel him as well.
Basically, everyone's decided to come out of the woodwork and use this as some kind of way to prop themselves up on the cancel culture bandwagon.
Move along.
We've got the friends, families and travellers.
The murder of 500,000 Romy and Sinti people is no laughing matter.
Until you tell a joke about it.
Yeah, until you joke about it, and then it can be, but this is putting limits on comedy, which has been happening for years at this point.
Leo comes in, Leo says about himself that people are being censored, and there's a reason that people might find this funny, not justifying the actual atrocities that happen.
Obviously, but that's why it's a joke.
Yes, but the reason that he was able to frame it in the way that he was is because of the fact, John, if you'd like to move to the next link, a study's actually been done.
If you just scroll down to page six of this, gypsies and Irish travellers are the most hated group in the UK. I can't have a note, the University of Birmingham is represented by Islamic iconography there.
Mmm.
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
I wonder why that could be.
But yeah, they've got on page six here, Muslims are the UK's second least light group after gypsies and Irish travellers.
25.9% of the public feel negative towards Muslims, whereas only gypsies and Irish travellers are viewed more negatively by the British public, with 44.6% of people viewing this group negatively.
So almost double.
Almost double the amount of people hate gypsies and Irish travellers.
And tangentially, if they're going to connect themselves to the Romani travellers as well.
Even though they're not the same, are they?
Even though they're not the same, no.
They're sort of tangentially related, but in the same way that the T doesn't really connect that well to the LGBT. These political groups don't have to make sense.
But yeah, there's a reason for that, probably, which is that in England and the UK and across a lot of Europe as well, we know the kind of issues that gypsies and travellers bring with them.
This is not to condone any sort of hateful action towards them.
I have gypsies in my own family, and Gareth, you still owe me a bass guitar.
Oh, really?
Yes.
That's to say, I mean, I know...
You stole one.
Whenever the caravans show up, they always bring trouble with them.
All of a sudden you'll get rowdy people, you'll get a mess, you'll get things being stolen.
I've got a friend who left a bicycle tied up next to a gypsy caravan, and of course he comes back after five minutes, literally just five minutes, and they hadn't stolen it.
They had taken all of the nuts and bolts off, stolen those, and left the parts piled up very neatly.
Oh my god.
So this is the sort of thing, and if you're going to start getting offended at people not liking your people, maybe you need to do some community policing for the behaviour before blaming everybody else for hating the worst parts of your community.
But that's just my thoughts there.
If we move along, there's been everybody else has decided to jump on this, including Judge Reinder finding Jimmy Carr guilty of wrong-think.
Jimmy Carr's joke suggested that the systematic genocide of gypsies during the Holocaust was a good thing, is breathtakingly racist.
Yeah, but that's why it's funny, because you don't expect anyone to say that, because it's such an obviously horrible thing to say.
I can't believe we have to explain comedy to these people over and over and over again.
The secret of comedy, Judge, is surprise.
You don't expect to hear a thing, and it tickles you, and you end up laughing.
Is that the end of your testimony, Mr.
Benjamin?
I'm afraid it is, yeah.
The truly disturbing thing isn't just the gag.
It's that on hearing it, instead of leaving, the audience clapped, whooped and cheered in approval.
Once again, we have to explain this.
The people, other than maybe those two fat wokists we saw in the Chappelle audience, people don't go to comedy shows to get offended on purpose.
They go with the understanding.
What's being said on stage are jokes, and the people saying those jokes are probably playing a weird caricature character of themselves.
In a way, they kind of do go to these comedy shows to get offended on purpose.
I suppose so.
In a way, that's deliberate.
They know that they're going to hear things that are just outrageous that they would never say in their own lives, you know, or in the office or anything like that.
And that's what's so funny about it.
It's like, look at this ridiculous stuff we're hearing.
So, yeah, I'm not surprised the audience clapped because it's the extremity of the joke that they're approving of, not, like, the implications of each individual joke.
Yeah, and let's just do a quick-fire round of randos getting annoyed at this and saying that we should cancel Jimmy Carr.
So if we move along, we've got this guy, Alfie Best, whose statement here on his Facebook post says, Really goes to show what some people think.
I have one thing to say.
Thank you for sharing your views on Jitsis as this spreads hate.
And it shows how the world, the abundance of abuse we take as gypsy people.
Glad the audience found it funny.
Looking forward to meeting this comedian soon at Jimmy Carr.
Sounds a bit like a threat, doesn't it?
Well, I would be shocked if it wasn't.
This guy is a gypsy Romani who's made quite a good money for himself as a businessman, but that threat at the end, kind of not helping the stereotypes.
Nope.
Just throwing that out there.
Yeah, you do this to yourselves.
Yeah, move along, and we've got this guy.
How confident is Jimmy Carr that the audience is on board with the idea that his joke was ironic?
So another attempt to try and condemn the audience for laughing at the obvious joke.
Oh, that's fine.
Yeah, we've got another one.
Ash Sarka decided to wade into this.
Gypsy Roma and Traveller people are so demonised that many people, including, unfortunately, on the left, don't even see them as victims of racism.
Well, they're white.
Yeah.
Yeah, they are white.
And many of those people on the left might have been victims of gypsies.
Can we get Whoopi Goldberg's opinion of this?
This is more white-on-white violence, is it?
Yeah, and we've got more people.
Martin J. Docherty, whoever this guy is.
SMP lunatic.
As the co-chair and as a human being, I'm utterly speechless at this disregard for the horror of the Holocaust and its impact on the gypsy community.
A community butchered by the Nazi regime.
Netflix care to comment?
I hope they don't.
I hope they can't just lol.
Yeah, actually, that would be better.
Zara Sultana, of course, wants it taken down.
Jimmy Carr's joke.
Look at these llama-leftist infiltrators.
Like, oh, you laughed?
How dare you?
Yeah, this is unacceptable.
This is unacceptable.
I mean, look at the joke.
Oh, no, no, it wasn't a joke, Zara.
What it was, it was actually a subtle treatise that Jimmy Carr was advancing, that Hitler didn't finish the job.
That's really, you got it, you got it.
It was a joke.
You heard the dog whistle, but if you can hear the dog whistle, what does that say about you?
Yeah, exactly.
Nadia Wittem.
Let's go back a second.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's what I said.
Look what she's saying.
Jimmy Carr's joke that a positive of the Holocaust, quote-unquote, was the slaughter of half a million Gypsy Roma and Sinati people is disgusting beyond words.
Well, you didn't have to go to the show.
You don't have to watch it.
It's amazing.
Netflix has this excellent feature where if you don't like what you're watching, you can just turn it off.
Yeah, but the thing is, what's she appealing to?
I'm disgusted.
Yeah, well, I'm disgusted about you too.
What do you want?
You know, I'm genuinely disgusted about the crap you post on social media.
Okay, what now?
Disgusting beyond words.
What now?
We're both disgusted at each other.
Brilliant.
Speaking of other disgusting people...
I call on Netflix to remove this grotesque material.
Sitting politicians in this country are demanding censorship of private corporations.
A US corporation as well.
I get a foreign corporation.
I'm not surprised that this communist thinks this way.
Yep.
We've got Nadia Wittem.
Basically all the usual suspects.
This is somehow anti-Semitic.
I don't think he mentioned Jews at any point, but go on.
He said that the murdering of the Jews was bad.
Yeah, that's true.
So that's anti-Semitic now, somehow.
We've got David Lammy.
Oh, good.
Moulding about it.
It's utterly despicable.
It was only last week that we commemorated the Holocaust, which makes this even funnier.
David Lammy's fat, racist opinions.
Let's just say, that's a pointless thing to bring up, because the series has been out since December.
Oh, has it?
November as well.
Literally, this had just been sitting around on Netflix for a few weeks, and then somebody decided to just watch it and get angry at it a few months down the line, so that doesn't even really matter.
And if we move along, a supposed friend of Jimmy Carr's, David Baddiel, has decided to try and cancel him as well.
Et to David!
If we just click on this, I just want to read this little bit that he's got here out.
You can obviously tell a Holocaust joke that's cruel and inhumane and mean-spirited and racist.
Well, thanks, David!
They've got the permission now.
Or you can tell one that targets the oppressors, or draws attention to the fundamental evil of it, or shines a light on the humanity of the victims.
Why?
If I were to just interpret it differently, I could say that's what it was doing.
Well, yeah, exactly.
That's a great point.
But why do I need to tell jokes about, like, you know, things that are obviously bad?
Oh, by the way, guys, we're a bit up in the air about the fundamental evil of the Holocaust.
Quick, tell a joke at the expense of the Nazis, or else people might not know.
What a stupid statement that is, David.
This is the clafter that Leo talks about.
The new comedians aren't looking for laughs, they're looking for claps.
Approval, yeah.
But that's just the leftist comedy.
You can't punch down only up.
And it's why leftist comedy isn't funny, because you need a sociological dissertation to make sure that you're allowed to make the joke before you actually even say it.
Thankfully, there have been some people talking since.
Once again, the usual suspects.
We've got Julia Hartley Brewer saying, does anyone actually believe that Jimmy Carr thinks it was a positive thing?
The Nazis murder gypsies?
No, of course they don't, and of course he doesn't.
It's a joke, it's funny, because it's shocking.
That's the point of the joke.
But the point is, we're all dancing to their tune now, right?
There is no defence against this, because we're accepting the premise that we should be interrogating whether this was good or bad.
It's like, look, if you're going to sit there and whine about a comedian leftist, I just don't care about your opinion, and I'm not obligated to listen to it either, incidentally.
Yeah, and the best thing about this is that even before this all came out and happened, before the special even was released, Jimmy Carr has addressed this sort of stuff before and said that he hates cancel culture and that he won't let it affect his comedy, which, respect to him, he hasn't and doesn't seem to be so far...
So James Bookley, in this article, claimed a fondness for being offended was killing comedy.
Chris Rock said comedians are scared to make a move.
And Shaparak Korsandi said the fear of being cancelled is real and will be the death of stand-up comedy as we know it.
So this isn't just Jimmy Carr.
Loads of comedians know that this is a problem.
Loads of comedians know that this is killing comedy.
And the mainstream is just going along with it anyway.
Speaking to Ladbible to promote the release of his new book, he said: "It used to be if you didn't like a comedian that was on telly something, you'd tut and switch the channel.
Now you can go on social media and go: 'This effing guy.
I've never liked this guy.
I think it's good that everyone's got a voice, but it doesn't mean that just because you don't like it, we should get rid of it.
I don't like people being deplatformed.
I don't like people being cancelled.
I kind of think everyone's got a right to do their thing.
If it's not for you, it's not for you, and it's fine.
Once all very reasonable." Yes, I've got a piece at the end of the tour which is called Career Enders, which is a sequence of career-ending jokes.
I've got like 15.
Potentially any of these jokes could end my career.
I wouldn't be surprised if any of those jokes ended up on the front page and caused a problem.
So you predicted all of this!
You've played!
Read right into his hands, you fools!
So I kind of do those at the end of the show, and it's a nice build and a nice thing, but that's quite sort of tongue-in-cheek, really, because you go, it's a comedy show, people are cool with this stuff.
People that have real problems in the world, they're not fussed about some comedian making a joke, which is an Excellent point.
And once again, everybody knows that this is a joke.
Everybody knows that he's not actually saying it was a positive thing.
These people have just latched onto an opportunity to create a political lobbying group through which they can try and gain benefits.
That's why this GRT thing has seemingly popped up out of nowhere.
I'd never heard of this before.
Correct me, of course, if it's been around a bit longer.
And also, what's the headline going to be?
I always feel like I've been grandfathered in.
I've been doing this so long.
What's the headline?
Jimmy Carr tells offensive joke.
Shock!
I mean, they're going to struggle saying there's a shock.
Another excellent point.
Again, he knows that his entire career is built on just telling offensive jokes.
Yeah, and to reinforce that, I've got a list here because you can make up lists of Jimmy Carr's most offensive jokes.
Go to the next link, please.
Yeah, the 11 most controversial jokes Jimmy Carr has ever had.
And I'm sure you could get this list going on forever and ever if you wanted to.
Just a little hint of some of the ones that we've got in here.
So I saw a charity appeal in the garden the other day and it read, Little Zuki has to walk 13 miles a day just to fetch water.
I couldn't help but think she should move.
And why would you become an Islamic fundamentalist suicide bomber on the off chance that you might get 72 virgins when you die?
Become a Catholic priest and have them now.
That's excellent, but you can see he's just targeting everybody.
That's the whole point.
Nobody is off-limits, and nothing is off-limits.
And it's always been like this with Jimmy Carr as well.
And this is why I like Jimmy Carr.
Yeah, I don't really know anything about his politics, but I respect all of this that he's got going.
And unlike Joe Rogan, where we can see the dividing line between someone like Jimmy Carr and sadly what Joe Rogan has done this time, Jimmy Carr has not apologised for it.
So, Jimmy showed up as planned for a performance at the Whitley Bay Playhouse near Newcastle and let rip about cancel culture.
One heckler in the audience was keen for him to address.
The disastrous Netflix show called out, Are we going to talk about the Holocaust?
Oh really, you want to, right now.
A comedy show.
Great job.
Only for Jimmy to respond, we're going to talk about cancel culture, the whole thing.
We're going to talk about effing everything, people.
Relax.
He then chose to interpret the outrage at his offensive joke as symbolism for the end of freedom of speech.
I mean, seems pretty reasonable interpretation to me.
What else could it be interpreted as?
Also adding that the backlash he'd received about LGBT jokes to the mix, he commented, We are speaking, my friends, in the Last Chance Saloon.
What I'm saying on stage this evening is barely acceptable now.
In ten years, effing forget about it!
You're going to be able to tell your grandchildren about seeing this show tonight.
You'll say, I saw a man, and he stood on stage, and he made light of serious issues.
We used to call them jokes, and people would laugh.
He added ominously, The joke that ends my career is already out there.
Which is probably true.
He's got decades of material.
Someone's going to pick up something eventually that's going to make everybody, all of these people that we've seen, just completely drop him and try and put him in prison.
But isn't that amazing, though?
Now you've got the beast of social media that is patrolling and it's currently hunting.
And the comedians themselves are like, yeah, well, the joke that is going to end me has already been told.
And so in his opinion, he's living on borrowed time.
And that's what happened with Rogan.
Some of those clips that we were looking at were ten years old or more.
And this is what we're doing to our cultural stars.
So why are we allowing this to happen?
Or we could just ignore what's happening on Twitter.
I think that would be the most productive thing that we could do.
I think that's correct.
And they go on to just talk about some other people commenting on this.
While Jimmy perceived himself as a brave and courageous comic fighting against cancel culture, which...
Sad to say, yeah, he absolutely is.
When he's on stage talking about this sort of stuff, he is kind of like the heroic warrior taking the last stand against the establishment.
Good on him.
I mean, he's made his money, so he's fine.
Yeah, but still, it still helps the rest of us for someone to stand up for it.
My big fat gypsy wedding star Paddy Doherty felt otherwise, branding him no better than Jimmy Savile.
Sorry, did you tell an offensive joke?
You're basically a kiddie diddler.
Are you really making that comparison?
Jesus.
How is he anything like Jimmy Savile?
That wasn't a joke he blasted, arguing that he should be investigated by the police.
He's talking about mass murder being a positive.
Would he be allowed to say this about black people being killed by the KKK? He probably already has some jokes about that, to be fair.
And if he hasn't, you're giving him just ideas.
He's going to go, oh, that's a great idea, actually.
If I'm not cancelled yet, I will be soon.
And then this is moving past the social realm of social media, trying to cancel him, as we've seen from MPs to the political realm.
And it's not just the leftist ideologues that you're expecting.
Sazid Javid has been saying that people should boycott Jimmy Carr in a new interview.
Move along, John.
Yeah, in a new interview with Times Radio, Javid said the joke was horrid, adding, I think we should all have a right to react to that, and one of the best ways anyone can react to that is to show these platforms what they think about Jimmy Carr by not watching or listening to him, and that will send them a strong message.
A cabinet member has joined the Islamo-leftist infiltrators in the opposition for calling for Jimmy Carr...
You almost did it.
I did.
...to be deplatformed from a foreign company.
Wow.
And to be fair, I know this is not the way that Sajid intended it, but there is some sense to it, which is, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
Great advice, Sajid.
I'll take that from it.
The SNP, of course, wants to ban jokes.
Anne McLaughlin, SNP MP, the gypsy and traveller communities have enough to contend with, with forthcoming legislation attempting to criminalise who they are without this disgusting joke being called.
I think it's the next one, John.
Yeah, yeah, being called mainstream hatred of them.
I don't believe in cancel culture, but he didn't do this accidentally.
I don't believe in cancel culture, so cancel him.
Yeah.
But also, we're going to make it criminal?
And it's not just the SNP who want to do this, it's the Conservative Party!
Nadine Doris has come out and basically gone, yeah, we're going to start banning jokes if you commit wrong thinking, if you tell jokes against the wrong people.
That's verboten.
That's not acceptable.
Culture Secretary Nadine Doris has suggested new laws would hold to account streaming sites from airing jokes such as those made by Jimmy Carr.
Carr issued a trigger warning to the audience at the beginning of his one-hour Netflix special, so anybody who stuck around past that, you knew what you were getting in for.
But how are we going to know this in advance?
Mm-hmm.
You know, we don't know what was highly offensive until the outrage has hit social media.
And the classic statement, offense is taken, not given.
Yes.
Speaking on BBC Breakfast, she said, we are looking at legislation via the media bill that would bring into scope these comments from other video-on-demand streaming outlets like Netflix.
So it's interesting that we're already looking at future legislation to bring into scope these sorts of comments.
Why?
Why are you doing what the Islamo-leftists want?
Why?
Is Britain the country?
Is Britain the nation that you want people to walk around on eggshells constantly worried that the next thing they're about to say will literally get them thrown in prison?
I mean, we already are.
Yeah, we already are, and this is where it's going.
This is just making it worse.
And it's also trying to censor the actions of a foreign company.
As we've said, if we make it too hard for Netflix to do business over here, they'll just pull out business over here.
And any films, any TV series that will be done in conjunction with us are out the window, so that's not going to help anyone.
Yeah, ruining British talent's ability to actually get a platform, the Conservatives.
Mm-hmm.
Ms.
Doris said the comments were abhorrent and shouldn't be on television, which is why they were on Netflix, but it was put to her that in a tweet in 2017 she'd claimed that left-wing snowflakes are killing comedy.
What?
Then you're one of those snowflakes now, aren't you?
I'm starting to really hate the Conservatives.
Oh, you're only just getting there?
Yeah, no, but I... But look at that.
She says, well, that's not comedy.
Yes, it is, Nadine.
Stop being a leftist.
You're meant to be a conservative.
Stop listening to them.
Block them all and do what you think is right, like you said in 2017.
Here we go.
You know, I'm no angel on Twitter.
Nobody is.
But I'd just like to say that nothing I've ever put out on Twitter has been harmful, abusive.
Right now...
Oh, I can see Owen Jones tweeting, you know, I always thought Nadine Doris was an even conservative, but actually I've changed my mind.
And that's such a relative term as well, because the stuff that you've put on that may be acceptable now, Nadine, ten years down the line, what's going to happen?
But that last night, Jimmy Carr's comments, no one can call that snowflake a wokishness, it was just appalling.
So she'll posture like a conservative on Twitter when it benefits her, but the second it becomes inconvenient, she'll just pick and choose which side.
She'll just become a full-on, full-throated, leftist, cancel-culture maniac.
That's what she's booking.
And she also makes the statement that it's not restricting free speech because she's a conservative and she's very careful about that.
Oh, shut up.
Yeah, which just means that you're a liar, Nadine.
And good on you, Jimmy, for standing your ground and not apologising.
Hold strong, friend.
Hold strong.
Absolutely.
Make them do their worst.
Which is, incidentally, what's going to happen in Canada as we go on.
We're a bit over time, but we'll get through this because this is worth it.
Right, so let's talk about what's happening with the truckers, another trucker update, because this is getting interesting.
The battle lines are massing in Canada.
Canador.
Canador, yeah.
It's turning into sort of like Gondor calling for aid, frankly, and the fellowship of the honks, because these protests are now, of course, in their second week, with the trucks clogging the streets of the capital and large groups of protesters who have settled in for the long haul, as it were.
The Canadian standoff against the restrictions has paralyzed Ottawa.
It's become a big focal point for the online cultures.
But again, all of this is connected.
So the same people who are opposing Joe Rogan, who are opposing Jimmy Carr, are opposing this convoy because this is what it's all about.
It's about do you have a managerial elite that can tell you how to act, how to think, how to be as a human being, how the entire country, entire world is going to be run, or are the people going to be able to make their own decisions?
That's the question.
And that's why the right people are on the trucker side and the wrong people are against them.
And it's constant.
And so you've got, of course, the managerial elites, like the mayor of Ottawa, who are like, oh, we need this state of emergency.
This is out of control.
It's like, good.
I'm glad it's out of control.
And that's really interesting, isn't it?
Because it's all about control.
All about it.
So this is Jim Watson, the mayor of Ottawa, saying, oh, someone's going to get killed.
We're in the midst of a serious emergency, the most serious emergency our city has ever faced.
We need to get moving much more quickly and much more proactively.
Someone's going to get killed or injured because of the irresponsible behaviour of some of these people who are honking their horns.
We'll get to this.
And destroying the fabric of the neighbourhood.
Imagine living through that hell time and time again for ten days.
The police are going to take a more aggressive stand and he supports them on that.
Really?
That's very interesting.
Now the velvet glove comes off, and you're going to get the iron fist.
So I hope the truckers are prepared for this, because they don't have any sympathy for you at all.
Unlike the farmers of Canada, who have turned up with their farm implements.
Tractors is the word I'm looking for.
Look, I'm not saying that I'm a working man, but I'm a friend of the working man.
But yeah, the farmers have joined the truckers, so out of the shires, I suppose, and into the streets.
And the cowboys have also joined!
Oh, yeah!
Like, was this the Rohirrim?
The cavalry are showing up over the hill.
Yeah, it really is!
Like, this is starting to take on genuinely mythical aspects.
So, yeah, Rohan has answered, which is excellent.
And, of course, the legitimate king supports the truckers, as it were.
Trump put out a statement saying that Trudeau is a far-left lunatic who's destroyed Canada with his insane COVID mandates.
We've heard word from the emperor.
Basically, yeah.
Excellent.
The king in exile has come out and said, yeah, I support them, which he does.
And so this can all be summarized with, I think, this next meme that I post on my Getter account.
A year ago.
Not even a year ago.
All we were hearing was make life as difficult for them as possible.
You've got Trudeau saying the same thing.
You've got Macron saying the same thing.
You've got Biden.
Ardern literally saying with a big smile on her face, oh yeah, we're creating a two-tier society.
Isn't it great?
Yep.
Make life as difficult as possible for the unvaccinated.
Don't let them go to work or go out in public.
Make them feel pain.
That's a very accurate summation of what it was like just a few months ago.
And now, why won't they stop honking?
Big crying face.
Exactly.
You get what you deserve.
You wanted war.
You declared war on these people.
And they were like, okay, we're going to take the first...
Well, not even the first step.
You started with the vaccine passports and stuff.
This is them retaliating.
And it's driving them crazy, right?
It turns out these people have much stronger constitutions than these people.
Yeah.
There are videos of them literally going crazy just because of the honking.
I've not slept in days!
Well, we'll get to all of this.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, we've covered this previously.
Anyway, so you get this basically city-dwelling cosmopolitans have been BTFO'd by this.
The Oswald residents are not happy about it.
You get people...
A city councillor saying things like, I'm receiving hundreds of emails telling me we went to get our groceries.
We got yelled at, got harassed, got followed down the street.
I'm so afraid I can't go out.
The residents in this downtown have just been completely abandoned during the national crisis and occupation of our city.
And that word, occupation, is the one they're using.
There's just no urgency from the federal government, the provincial government, quite frankly, even our own police.
The horn blaring is really meant to terrorise this community and it's working, says someone who's reported to be called Mix McKinney, who will be running for mayor later this year.
This is why you're asking about the MX. This is why I had to go look up what MX meant, right?
And obviously, I should have just guessed, really.
This honorific functions as a gender-neutral alternative to titles like Mr.
and Ms.
Mix.
Good.
Good.
Sorry, should it be Mix Master?
Are they a DJ? No, no, no, it's a gender neutral Mr or Mrs term, right?
And the great thing about this is the truckers are getting to the right people.
Oh yes, it's those cosmopolitan leftists in the cities who are sat there calling you a racist and call themselves Mix This and whatever, gender queer that.
Like, these are the people you're getting to.
It's good to know.
They were older guys.
They have families.
They like seeing my baby, said one resident.
These are not the dangerous elements we need to worry about.
I just asked them to please leave and told them that they were driving us crazy with all the honking.
And they say at the bottom, although many of the truckers he spoke to apologised, none of them took up his offer to leave.
I'm sorry, eh?
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Yeah.
And so, of course, you get progressive media outlets in Canada who are now just openly demanding that Trudeau crack down on the protesters.
Like this, okay, Trudeau, time to shut down the mob.
Who are you?
Just some Canadian leftist blogger.
Time to bring in the stormtroopers.
Listen to the rhetoric that he's invoking though, right?
It is apparent to many of us that the occupation of Ottawa by a lawless and threatening mob needs to be brought to an end forthwith.
No country worth the name would allow its national capital to be seized and held by insurrectionists without a decisive reaction.
There we go.
Occupation by insurrectionists.
The nationalism rises in the Canadian left.
The national socialism becomes apparent, doesn't it?
It's like, what are you talking about?
You're pro-Canada now?
No country worth its salt or whatever?
Bollocks.
You don't believe in any of that.
You're for open borders.
You're for all this progressive nonsense.
Don't give me this, right?
And so, it goes on.
There are certainly many as yet unknown organisers and influencers, not to mention funders and strategists, many of whom are not from Canada, or not Canadian, or even in Canada.
It's like, oh god, now we're parochial nationalists!
Not foreigners!
Not dirty, stinking foreigners!
God!
This is going to come down to something like, oh, it's the Koch brothers funding all this, or something, isn't it?
And so they say the first thing that needs to happen is the federal government needs to bring an immediate halt to the insurrection and occupation of Ottawa.
That can start with the establishment of a perimeter around downtown, with all supplies of diesel-fueled vehicles inside that ring blocked immediately.
Since the police are incapable of doing the job alone, the armed forces should be brought in to assist.
So they're suggesting Chaz.
They're suggesting military come in and basically deal with the citizens who are protesting.
Not even Chaz, like a siege.
It's like Julius Caesar's Siege of Elysia, basically.
And so hopefully the truckers have a Caesar among them, because they're going to have to build a double wall, basically.
But anyway...
You can see this in, like, the local residents talking on Twitter, because, of course, a lot of them use Twitter.
And apparently in Ottawa, Ottawa has a particularly weird high incidence of people using Reddit as well, apparently.
Oh, God, it must be an awful city.
Exactly.
Ottawa is one of Reddit's capital cities, apparently.
But you can hear in these sort of the Twitter rooms or whatever, where people can join and listen to conversations that are happening on Twitter.
And let's just play a clip.
So if you drive a bunch of big rigs in the downtown core, what are we supposed to do?
And I mean, this is war.
This is not a peaceful demonstration.
If it was peaceful, it'd be quiet.
It's very loud.
And loud doesn't equal violence.
But it is a very troubling example in this country that you can actually occupy.
And I would like, I mean, I don't know who's listening and able to talk about it, but I'm just a teacher and sometimes politician.
But what I want to know is, what can I do?
Because I think there is a point in time where you take up arms.
And I know that sounds aggressive, maybe, but I want to know, what can I do next?
You can hear him stretching the definition of violence.
He's like, they're honking, you know, it's like, not maybe, but you know, we should take a bump.
And also just saying, like, oh, it's not peaceful.
Sorry, they've not burnt any businesses down.
Would that make it peaceful?
Well, yeah, exactly, yeah.
If they got Black Lives Matter flags and started burning things down, then it'd be very peaceful all of a sudden.
But that's the point.
This guy is a teacher and attempted politician, failed politician.
And he's like, right, we're going to have to take up arms against the truckers.
It's like, well, who the hell are you?
I listened to the second part.
It turns out he's an immigrant from England.
He's not even a Canadian.
So he's probably just faking the accent as well.
Oh yeah, exactly.
And he calls the natives ne'er-do-wells.
But anyway, moving on, right?
So the counter-protesters are just lefty loons.
They're all the same people.
Look at their stupid signs.
Oh yeah, I saw this clip where they're all chanting trans rights are human rights.
Like they don't even know what they're counter-protesting.
They just showed up.
Let's just do the typical slogans, guys.
Exactly.
We are the globalist goblins who have come out to oppose the armies of, you know, the realms of men.
You know, the allies.
And the fellowship, as it were.
And they're all the same people.
They're exactly the same people.
They live in these cities, and the truckers have really hit them at exactly the right point.
And so things started getting violent, but not from the truckers, of course.
There was a video of this, but this chap has locked his Twitter account, so I can't get at the video.
But we probably shouldn't play it anyway, because it's a video of three people being rammed by a car.
ISIS style.
Which is what these people in Ottawa have decided to resort to.
Weaponising trucks and vehicles.
And this came a couple of days after a journalist had posted this.
We can go to the next one.
Just days before people run over at the Freedom Convoy in Winnipeg, Canada, journalist Brian Walton wrote, if you see Nazis on the side of the road, do the responsible thing and run them over.
Wow, but there's no consequences to the leftist rhetoric whatsoever, is there?
So let's take a look at these Nazis then.
What do they look like?
Well, if you can go to the next one, you can see they look like families of regular Canadians having a laugh as they engage in political...
Peaceful political activity.
The fun thing as well, you can see them all dancing.
I think they've got a stand-up right there.
I think elsewhere, they've got slides.
They've basically made it a fair.
Look at this violence that they're committing.
Where?
They look terrible.
Absolute Nazis.
I can see why you need a crackdown.
Yeah.
If you just go to the next one, we can see more people just pratting around in the street, just having some fun.
It's great.
Yeah, it really looks wholesome, doesn't it?
This is what Extinction Rebellion wish they were.
Yes.
If you go to the next one, there's again just some more normalcy of just people just being normal and just being decent.
Yeah.
And the leftists are just screeching.
Like, how dare you be decent and normal?
I'm going to run into you with a car.
It's so wholesome to see.
Yeah, but you can see that the narrative that the left are concocting in their little echo chambers doesn't match the reality.
And they're not interested in the objections.
They're not interested in the fact that these people have been tyrannized.
Like, they're in defense of tyranny, of COVID passports, of Trudeau being like the sour man of Canada.
You know, they don't care about that, though.
And so the police are now beginning to cut off fuel supplies.
So this is not good news.
Don't know what this is going to mean in the long run, to be honest.
But look at the Gestapo.
You can see it a second ago anyway.
You know, the masked police officers.
Look at the...
Who are they?
Just the stormtroopers of the regime.
That's who they are.
They're not like local cops, aren't they, we used to get.
But yeah, so anyone bringing in fuel will be charged with assisting in illegal activity.
There is an interesting point to bring up here.
I saw Dank post it on Twitter, which is, if you want all of these guys to go, surely cutting off the diesel supply and the petrol supply is not the best idea.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how that's going to work either, and since the tow trucks won't come and tow them away, I don't know what they're going to do.
But anyway, so this is full-spectrum attack by the regime, of course, because not just are they going to prevent them from getting fuel, they're also going to prevent them from getting money.
This is what happened with GoFundMe.
They posted this on their blog, saying, look, we support peaceful protests, and we think that that was the intention of the convoy fundraiser when it was first created, but we now have evidence from law enforcement that previously held peaceful demonstration has become an occupation with police reports of violence and other unlawful activity.
It's like, Really?
Using the same language that everyone on Twitter is?
Yep.
So the authorities have gone to GoFundMe and said, could you please take this down?
And they said, well, following a review of the relevant facts and multiple discussions with law enforcement and city officials, this fundraiser is now in violation of our terms of service and has been removed from the platform.
Given how this situation has evolved, no further funds will be directly distributed to the Freedom Convoy organizers.
We will work with organizers to send all remaining funds to credible and established charities Verified by GoFundMe.
So all that money that you guys raised will only go to money to...
Black Lives Matter and LGBT. That's where it's going to go.
And everyone knows that's where it's going to go.
That's a really weird thing for them to do.
Because I would call that theft.
I would say that you don't have a right to that money.
And I'd say you should give that money back to the people who donated it so they can donate it through other methods.
Yeah, and interestingly, and again, this is in direct collaboration with the mayor and law enforcement in Ottawa.
As the mayor just comes and posts on Twitter, like he shouldn't have said this and we'll get to the next one, I want to sincerely thank the team at GoFundMe for listening to the plea made by the city and Ottawa police to no longer provide funds to the convoy organizers.
So you went and lied about these guys doing violence And you were like, well, they're engaging in a democratic protest.
Please stop them getting money.
And GoFundMe were like, yeah, okay, we're going to give this money to leftist groups.
GoFundMe, just so you know.
Have the headquarters in San Francisco.
What a shock.
Don't use companies that are in San Francisco when you can avoid it, I would suggest.
But yeah, these protests have been holding our city hostage for a week now, and I'm hopeful that limiting their access to funding and resources restrict their ability to remain in Ottawa.
I'm imploring similar crowdfunding platforms to take the same position and not enable this group in its fundraising efforts, which would deal a blow to our efforts to put an end to this occupation.
Of course, Jim Watson, the mayor of Ottawa, is a member of the World Economic Forum.
You can scroll down a bit just so you can see it.
Look, right there.
What is he doing there?
Oh, big shot.
Yeah, he gave a speech to them as well, but don't worry, he's literally from Mordor.
But they don't de-platform leftist causes, because as we've spoken about before, the blade of tolerance only cuts one way.
They, of course, promoted the Capitol Hill-occupied protest.
What's the difference?
The only difference is scale.
I mean, these people literally declared themselves not to be a part of the American Republic.
You know, that they've occupied a part of the capital and that's it.
A bunch of people died in there.
And were raped.
Has there been anything like that so far with all of these freedom-loving Canadian protesters?
Of course not!
No reports so far.
But as you can see, it's literally exactly the same thing, exactly the same principles.
The only difference is scale, and these people are embarrassing and stupid.
But the main difference is they're doing it for Black Lives Matter.
They're doing it for Antifa and all this.
Okay, fine.
So what about violent extremists?
No, GoFundMe are okay with violent extremists.
This was a person who, Alyssa Azar, who had been videoed attacking people, and she had been indicted on a felony, and GoFundMe...
Leave that up.
No problem.
100,000 to a violent criminal.
Because she's Antifa.
Right.
What about even more violent extremists?
Do you remember the group Riot Kitchen?
No.
Right.
The group Riot Kitchen, they went and handed out food at Antifa riots.
Ah.
One of these ones.
Yeah.
Black Lives Matter.
Sorry.
Hurting people is hungry business.
Yeah, yeah.
But the thing is, they had been arrested in Kenosha by US Marshals while planning attacks in the city and filling fuel cans.
Hmm.
Their account's still up.
Nearly 60 grand.
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
So you can see, this is entirely about leftist repressive tolerance at play.
But the worst thing about this is what they will de-platform.
There's one thing de-platforming the truckers, the expense, the insistence of the authorities in Ottawa, there's one thing.
But if you de-platform a dying man to be able to crowdfund because his wife had posted about horse paste, I mean, come on.
You couldn't make it more obvious that there is one unifying narrative that connects all of this, and that GoFundMe adheres to one narrative and repudiates the other.
But anyway, politicians then begin getting involved, because GoFundMe is an American company, like Netflix, incidentally, with Jimmy Carr.
It's like, well, hang on a second.
You actually can't just take a bunch of people's donations and then send them where you want them?
You actually can't do that.
That's actually illegal.
And so the West Virginia attorney, Morrissey someone or other, Patrick Morrissey, sorry, urges West Virginia to contact his office that they believe they've been victimized by GoFundMe.
And of course, based Florida man got involved as well.
It is a fraud for GoFundMe to commandeer $9 million in donations, sent to support truckers and give the cause of their own choosing.
And he'll work with Attorney General Ashley Moody to investigate these deceptive practices.
These donors should be given a refund.
And you can imagine Imagine the scenes in GoFundMe's offices.
Like, oh my god, we've finally got a reason to get rid of these truckers.
Brilliant, what are we going to do?
We're going to send to Black Lives Matter.
Yeah, yeah, put that statement out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait a minute.
Oh my god, laws exist.
We can't actually just steal their money.
What, these people can take us to court?
Quick, quick, write an update, write an update.
Quick, establish an autonomous zone that we're based in.
I'm surprised they didn't do that, actually.
But yeah, so GoFundMe just posted out on their Twitter account, actually...
We're going to refund everyone instead because that would be theft and we'd be in a lot of trouble for just redistributing as we please.
To simplify the process for our users, we'll be refunding all the donations to the Freedom Convoy fundraiser.
This refund will happen automatically.
Update we issued earlier enabled all donors to get a refund and outlined a plan for distributing remaining funds to verify charities.
However, due to donor feedback, we are simplifying the process, simplifying the process, and automatically refunding donations.
Donor feedback.
What, dude, you're going to get sued to hell for this?
You'll probably go to jail, your company will be over.
Good point.
Good to donate feedback.
It took this massive backlash for them to even maybe acknowledge.
I mean, they've not acknowledged that it was wrong, but to go like, well, we'll just give you the money back.
Not that we've done anything wrong.
Exactly.
No admission of guilt here, even though what they're...
It literally is fraud, you know, and it would literally destroy them.
But also, people could have done the chargeback thing that people were doing with Patreon as well.
But if you can go to the next one, John, you can see that basically some people, and I saw a lot of people talking about it, saying, well, hang on a second.
I can actually tell my credit card that essentially they can do a chargeback.
I don't have a credit card, so I don't know what that really means.
But apparently it means that GoFundMe would have to pay $10 to $15 per donation.
For their illegal theft that would be recharged by the credit cards.
And so it would have cost them millions of dollars.
So GoFundMe, yeah, we'll just refund.
Let's not bankrupt ourselves, lads.
Yeah.
GoFundMeCO locks his Twitter account, of course, because why wouldn't you?
When you've been exposed as a criminal and progressive talking head.
They all look the same, don't they, these types?
There is a physiognomy about it.
And the truckers have gone to Give, Send, Go.
If you would like to support them, as you can see, the number one free Christian crowdfunding site.
And you can see that there are Trucker's fundraising campaigns on there.
I couldn't actually get any up for this because the site was under a DDoS attack, it seemed, when I first...
Oh, really?
Can we get another...
Oh, right.
We actually got it up.
Right, okay.
So they've raised $4 million on this so far, which is excellent.
Go and give them some pennies if you want to support the attack against Mordor, because that's what this is.
But like I said, I'm pretty sure they were subject to a DDoS attack.
Now, it might be that it was just overwhelming demand.
Potentially.
But I find it unlikely.
I think that it's actually, if I'm going to impugn bad faith, which I am going to because I think these people operate entirely in bad faith, I reckon there was a DDoS attack on this crowdfunding platform because they knew what was going to happen.
GoFundMe is not the only crowdfunder on the internet.
Other people can do it.
And will.
Which is good.
And just so you know, it used to be illegal to DDoS places.
They used to, you know, look for who was committing the DDoS and arrest them.
We can go to the final one.
There are people in 2011 from Anonymous who got arrested, given federal charges for DDoSing, but now it seems that DDoSing is just a weapon in the arsenal of the regime.
Mordor will DDoS you if it comes to it.
So the war is on, as you can see.
The Fellowship better be prepared for the crankdown that is going to come.
It's going to be brutal.
The armies of Mordor are not known for their compassion.
Dour note to end it on, but okay, let's move on to the video.
No, it's on.
It's absolutely on.
They better be prepared.
But at the same time, I think this ground-swelling support does show that we can make a difference if we all just come together.
All it takes is a few honky boys showing up on the doorstep and they're going to DEFCON, whichever is the worst one, going like, we need to bring in the army!
Oh yeah, they view this as a full-on revolt.
And it is, so be prepared to stick it out to the bitter end, lads.
Yeah.
Keep going.
You're doing good work.
But yes, let's get on to the video comments.
At this stage, everybody who isn't vaccinated has had coronavirus at least once or possibly twice.
There's hardly anybody who hasn't had it at all.
Just want to repeat that.
I'm looking at numbers on wildermeters.info slash coronavirus.
The UK is there at number five on the leaderboard.
We've got 17.6 million recorded cases out of a population of 68.4 million people.
Which if you do the maths, that's only 0.257 or 25.7%.
As we know, people typically get COVID more than once.
So how many people have really had the disease in total?
Dunno.
I saw a study that suggested 95% of people have got COVID antibodies.
That's probably true.
I mean, I understand the point that you're trying to make, but there's two problems, which is one, not everybody who's had COVID will report it.
I know I didn't.
Yeah, I made sure that I had it over Christmas, and then I was just sort of like, why would I tell the government about this?
They're just going to tell everybody that I know to stay indoors, and I don't want to put them through that.
And there's also the fact that Leo's point was also, if you've not already had the jab, then you've probably already had it at this point.
Well, like I said, there was a study that suggested that 95% of the population in the country have had exposure to COVID, not necessarily reported to the government.
So that might be the government's official figures, but...
Asymptomatic is still a thing.
Oh, absolutely.
Also, just no offence to anything, but next time you do anything like that, maybe pull the mic away from your mouth a little bit, because we were really picking up the peas in my ear right there.
Right, okay.
It wasn't too bad for me, so...
Well, it was noticeable to me.
Gentlemen, we all want Trudeau gone, as much as the next person.
But I would caution you, you should look into who the Deputy Prime Minister of the Liberal Party is.
Her name is Chrystia Cottage-Cheese-Legs Freeland, and she is an absolute c**t.
Seriously.
Careful what you wish for.
The whole Liberal government needs to go.
All of them.
And I think the quickest way to achieve that is to put their worst person right at the front.
I mean, Trudeau, for all of his faults, he's at least a well-groomed member of the World Economic Forum and has been sufficiently trained in dealing with the sort of platitudes that the average person will accept.
He puts up a good front, and I've seen devs done many clips of him where he's asked a question and will completely sidestep the question, but in such a way that the audience that he's speaking to will just go along with everything that he says.
No, I think the only solution to the problem that Canada has, and frankly a lot of places have, is get the worst of it right up front as quickly as possible.
Make them show their hand.
That's what I would say.
I'm sorry for everyone at the Lotus Eaters who's seeing this, but I just have to make an announcement to the Sultans of Shadley.
Okay, the Harry fan wiki is one thing.
I guess I'm just going to be a celebrity of the group.
It's a bit creepy, but okay.
And now you turn the whole server into...
The Collective Harryverse, as you've called it?
Yes!
And a Harry cult.
Yep, nope, that's another holiday where I'm going to be away from the server for a bit.
Start behaving and I'll come back again.
Bye, guys!
No, you must lead our chosen people.
I have to say, I think you did this to yourself by sending us the video comments.
Yes.
The Great Harry Strong.
The Harry Collective, that's great.
I like Alex's idea of recommending books for this podcast, and I thought I'd do the same here.
I recommend you guys read this book.
Yami Harari's Sapiens, A Brief History of Humankind.
The book tells us about how we became who we became from our Stone Age ancestors all the way up to modern times.
It's a good read.
I bet it is.
I watch a lot of videos about this sort of stuff.
Yeah, I've heard some mixed things about it and elements of some of its accuracy, but if we're getting recommendations for it from our audience, it can't be that bad.
I mean, and just a quick thing.
Thank you, Johnny, for sending us in the Solzhenitsyn two volumes.
We've got them right behind me.
Yeah, they're behind Harry on the thing.
I almost forgot to say thank you, so thank you very much.
Yes, very cool to have those old copies of it.
Just a quick aside, just because this is kind of interesting.
This is the remains of the student section of a basketball game.
Very tidy.
And on the other side, we see the away team's remnants.
Quite a lot less, if you ask me.
There's still a bunch of trash on the floor, but I think it's quite interesting how the student section sucks.
Yes, students do suck.
I agree.
I mean, we're all students once.
Yeah.
How's it going guys?
Doing my first pop-up at a mall.
This is a very new experience for me, very exciting, and I've already made a bunch of sales.
That was a great day.
I made over $500 in sales and I turned a profit.
But it was great because, well, I wasn't wearing a mask.
Everybody else in the shopping centre was, but nobody seemed to be bothered.
It's not even security, except one guy who kicked up a stink.
And he literally looked like this.
I bet he did.
Congratulations on doing well.
Yeah, that's excellent to hear, man.
It's always wonderful to hear people doing well.
Yeah.
An off-the-cuff trucker protest sprang up in Winnipeg, Manitoba on Friday.
Now, fair warning, this video gets ugly with some horrible bigotry that only the truckers could muster.
The poor lady in this must have felt so unsafe.
This is just amazing to see, guys.
All of the Canadian flags and people out here in support.
It's getting bigger and bigger.
There we go!
Smile!
Uh-huh.
Absolutely.
What has this got to do with fascism, lady?
This is protesting would-be fascism.
Come on!
But that's the narrative, isn't it?
It's the universal narrative.
You know, the left and then freedom.
It's great to see almost small cells of this popping up in other cities as well.
People are being inspired by this.
It's great to see.
On my way to Ottawa.
Don't really have a plan.
Just want to see what's going on.
Getting pretty close.
I can't hear any horns yet, but I've passed a lot of cars on the highway with Canadian flags and F Trudeau signs.
Here we are.
I can hear the horns in the distance.
That's awesome.
God, I wish we could just pop on a plane and just go take a look.
It'd be great.
I mean, that fare looked fun, to be honest.
It's great.
I tell you, the only thing that puts me off is, A, I'm not getting bloody COVID vaccinated or tested, but B, the cold.
I'm just not prepared for it, man.
Yeah, I've heard of Canada.
It can be very, very cold.
Have you seen those videos of Alaska where they'll just throw water out into the open air?
And it'll freeze before it hits the ground.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Tony D and Little Joan, to answer Callum's question, the site I used was NewJerseyHauntedHouses.com and Field of Screams was one of the many independently produced haunted houses listed on the site.
They are open, some of them, year-round.
Most of them are open at the fall, around September to November.
They have haunted hay rides, haunted houses, corn mazes.
We love Halloween in South Jersey.
I do wish we could travel.
I know.
I'd love to go.
So do I. For
those just listening, this is just a clip of people wandering about with all the horns in the background.
To be fair, you listen to that noise, and you just think, if you were Trudeau, hold up wherever you are, and you hear that approaching in the distance.
Well, he fled pretty quickly, didn't he?
Oh, yeah, but it...
Oh, okay, uh...
John's just put...
Yeah, John's telling us they're actually Freedom Trucker convoys into London over the weekend from around ten locations like Scotland, Wales, Weymouth, etc.
Good.
We need to check that out next time it happens.
It...
It's still ongoing, so there's still stuff going on.
Yeah, but the thing is, though, we don't have any restrictions in England.
You want to go to Edinburgh or Cardiff.
Yeah, that's true.
And don't get me wrong, I'm all for protesting the Conservative government, but no vaccine mandates.
And they're like, well, we don't have any.
Yeah, it's one of the few blessings that we've got here.
Yeah, but anyway, is there another video coming?
Some Polish words might look like an abomination, but in fact the sounds are similar to English.
So CZ is an equivalent of CH and SZ is an equivalent of SH. So we would read this word as CH, A, SH, K. But why?
Because they're not English!
But why are you not English?
But why are you Z instead of H? I don't know, to be kind of funky like that.
I don't know, anyway.
It's interesting though, thank you.
Foreigners.
So Carl, about that thing with the sex workers and all that and the violence.
Well, of course there's going to be violence because there's basically polygamy that they're engaging in.
Polygamy always leads to violence.
It just ends up being that way.
And it's not much of a stretch to even say that prostitution is polygamy too because you're involving multiple partners and sex is a lot more than just a physical thing despite the denial that people are in.
Did he mean polyamory when he was saying polygamy?
I think he might have meant, yeah.
I kind of...
The accent was difficult to pick up what he was saying in the first couple of seconds, but...
I mean, you could make the argument, I suppose.
But anyway, let's carry on.
Edward says, Never bow, they'll ask you to genuflect.
Never genuflect, they'll just ask you to kowtow.
Never kowtow, you're baring your neck for the axe.
They're all grinding long before they ask you to bow.
Great point.
If they come to you that fiercely, it's not because you did something wrong.
It's because now they have an excuse to do so.
It's not your mistake to them.
It's their opportunity.
That's exactly right.
It's about breaking you.
It is not about restoring cosmic justice or anything like this.
It's about being able to take you out.
Free Will says, anyone even slightly to the right of Pol Pot is now literally Hitler.
The idea that a world run by these people will have any civil liberties, freedom of speech or accountability of power is as ludicrous as a paper fire guard.
Completely agree.
Dave says, according to Joe, we can't be wrong when we talk about race.
We can't be wrong when we talk about race.
Well, we shouldn't be, I suppose is what he means.
How the hell are we supposed to figure out anything if we can't risk being wrong?
Joe's falling into leftist thought traps.
Maybe too much California followed Joe to Texas.
Well, it's about being trapped in the progressive narrative, isn't it?
As soon as he consents to any of it, then he's got to consent to all of it.
I mean, being friends with Alex Jones and appearing on the Tim Pool podcast recently with Alex Jones, Blair White, Michael Mallis and all of them, I do genuinely think that Joe is out of that progressive bubble.
I agree, yeah.
But I can't help but feel there probably is some backstage shenanigans going on with Spotify saying, Listen, you need to at least give them something.
And Joe seems like a very reasonable and polite guy, so probably for the benefit of whatever business partners he's got going on in the background.
I don't think that makes it right.
I still don't think he should, but I can see this probably to do with him just being like, I'll be nice for the guys I'm working with at Spotify.
They put a lot of money on me.
But I agree with you.
I think they're probably saying, look, you've got to give them something.
So I mean, why?
Why do you have to give them something?
What are they going to do?
Well, because Spotify are a bunch of...
I assume they're based in California.
I'm not sure there are.
I think they're Swedish.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, they've still got plenty of leftists in there, so...
So Thane Scotty of Swindon says, this is who the right are defending.
Those in glass houses, pedo protector.
Yeah, exactly.
Any day of the week I'd defend Joe Rogan over saying the N-word than I would you guys defending pedophiles.
Don't know why I have to say that.
Josh sent me another article today of something else and it's just like...
It's disgusting.
Argued, this leftist has argued for lowering the age of consent.
Check.
Children should be allowed to have sex.
Check.
You know, all the talking points.
It's becoming a genuine just bit of talking points for certain leftists now.
And it will eventually just get out into the mainstream beyond what it's already sort of pushing out to already.
They're totally normalising it because that's where they're going.
And, like, the slippery slope is just a death slide at this point.
Anyway, um...
I'll get on with the Jimmy Carr comments here.
Andre Mesquita says, During the special, Jimmy Carr made fat jokes, rape jokes, pedo jokes, anti-feminist jokes, dwarf jokes, and a joke about Islam, and they chose to go with the gypsy one.
Because it was tied to the Holocaust.
Yeah, because it was tied to the Holocaust, but because I also think now they're trying to create this political lobby, the gypsies and travellers saw, aha, there's something we can latch on to!
But the reason I think it was important is the Holocaust.
I think that's the key component of the whole thing.
If it wasn't about the Holocaust, I don't think anyone would have cared.
That's probably true as well.
Freewill says, "The Conservatives have sold out but then bar a few notable exceptions, they were always spineless jellyfish with no regard for their supporters, supporters who will support them forever in the vain hope that they will someday be the Conservatives will make a good on their promises and be forever disappointed." Yeah.
I think we need to get outside of the Labour-Conservative paradigm.
I won't be voting for either of them next time.
Just vote, like, Reclaim or something.
That's where I'm probably going.
PirateSkeleton says, A long time ago I actually worked at Disney World's Jungle Cruise ride.
Some of my co-workers used all of the N-words.
All of...
There's more than just the one?
Okay.
What is that?
And other race-related jokes for shock factor for their very exclusive skipper-only cruisers.
These people are now radical leftists, willing to disown you if you hold any political position outside of the complete hatred of Trump and Republicans.
The irony is rich.
That's true.
I mean, hypocrisy isn't even a word in the leftist dictionary.
They've joined a cult.
That's what it is.
They've joined a cult.
Lord Nerevar says Jimmy Carr's joke was funny.
We can agree with that now that this isn't going on YouTube.
Because the joke was funny, he was doing his job correctly.
In what way should you be doing your job correctly be grounds for firing?
When you logically deconstruct the circumstances around this and most cancellations, it just makes them look ridiculous.
That's because they are ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're holding everybody to massive, huge standards they would never hold themselves or any of their favourite political or social personalities to.
It's because everything's political.
And if every statement is a political statement, then Jimmy Carr making a joke about the Holocaust and Gypsies, that's a political manifesto, in their opinion.
That's like a desire for a future state of the world.
Yeah.
Oh, and John's also just added a link just as another example of why most people in the UK and elsewhere don't really like travellers or gypsies.
We've got this Daily Mail article about two travellers who wrecked Historic Threats Brewery with 100-strong mob after the owners rejected 20 grand demand to move their caravans.
And they got eight years in jail for that.
This is why people don't like travellers and gypsies.
Before you blame us for not liking you, blame these people.
If you say, well, we're not all like this, well then try and maybe separate yourselves from them.
It's been a long time that this has happened.
Anyway, let's go on quickly because we're running out of time.
M1Ping says, GoFundMe would have taken the side of the tanks at Tiananmen Square.
That's true.
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly why we're so insistent.
They are going to come down on you hard, and we have to support them.
We're going to keep covering it, obviously.
You guys keep doing whatever you're doing.
We have to all be in this together.
We can't back down.
Yeah, yeah.
AlphaTheBeta says, there are only two options for Trudeau, suffer and face the music, or go nuclear.
Since I believe Trudeau and co.
are complicit in the Globus plan, well, they absolutely are.
They cannot surrender.
Not only will Trudeau's humiliating defeat derail Agenda 2030 in Canada, it will pour fuel on the fire for global resistance.
They have to escalate.
They need to flip the narrative so the truckers are the villains and time is running out.
Yeah, it is running out.
This is why occupation and insurrection are being used.
But the thing is, if the government is democratic and it's by the people for the people, how can you complain that the people end up occupying the capital city because they're unhappy with the government?
How can you complain about that?
That's democracy in action.
Exactly.
Kevin says, so Ottawa will send the riot squads into the protest, hospitalise 40 or 50 truckers and supporters, but the media will report that two officers were hurt.
They will end up doing that, yeah.
This is what I'm saying.
Truckers, you guys have got to be ready for it to start getting rough, because these people are playing for keeps.
They want it all, and you're standing in their way, so they're going to hit you with everything they have.
And Callum says, this is the damage that the Soviet indoctrination has done to the West.
What Russia has done to us, I don't even think this is Russia, to be honest, that's the thing.
At once I feel the need to deal with the, we need to deal with the useful commie idiots, but I also can't help but look at Russia and think, you made and developed this mess, fix it, you grass-eating dirt-eaters.
I don't think Russia did this, I think we did this to ourselves.
And Alcibiades says, out of the shire and into the fire, the freedom convoy awaits.
That's a great way to end it.
Great, and I think that's about all we've got time for.
Thanks very much for tuning in.
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