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*Music* Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 24th December 2021 Christmas Eve Special.
I am joined by Thomas.
Hello.
And today we're going to be talking about...
We'll start the holly jolly Christmas season off by talking about Don't Offend the Bestiality Nonce.
So this is a nonce who also decided to have sex with a dog.
And everyone is very, very upset about this.
Because of the noncing, or the dog?
No, because we might misgender her.
Ah.
That's the concern.
Priorities.
Right.
Right.
Anyway, also John Snowflake retiring from Channel 4.
Yes.
I quite like the pun there.
And also domestic Democrat refugee crisis has been confirmed by the census, which is that the Democrats are fleeing en masse from the heavily blue states.
And where are they going?
Overwhelmingly to the heavily red states.
And it's like, hmm, interesting that.
It is.
Interesting I don't want them in these crap holes.
Anyway, so some stuff to mention first on the website.
The first thing we have up here is a republish here.
So this is Roy's article on the condemnation of England along racial lines was inevitable regardless of the Euro's results.
You may remember, of course, the, you know, we were winning because of diversity and then we lost.
Well, now what?
No one can finish that sentence without losing their agent, apparently.
Yeah, and the winners who won it, Italy, apparently didn't deserve it because they weren't diverse enough, according to The Economist.
Italians, white...
Anyway, sorry.
There's an audio track on there for people to go and check out his article as well now for silver and gold tier members.
But anyway, moving forward.
So let's go to the next one, which is Critical Race Theory Explains, number three.
So this is a video from Carl in which he's talking about critical race theory in his series in which he's trying to explain all the nonsense that he has read out of it, which is always good.
And there's a lot of nonsense.
Anyway, let's go to the last thing here, which is a video coming out at 3pm after the podcast, which is the feminist argument for abolishing the family.
Spicy.
I don't know the details on that one because, of course, it's not even published yet and I haven't had a chance to watch it, so we'll have to leave that there.
But anyway, let's move on.
So, let's get into the nonce.
Fantastic.
I need to start thinking before I speak.
Do not clip that.
Ugh.
Let's condemn the nonce.
Well, the nonce isn't even the story.
Anyway, so...
Everyone is very afraid about offending the bestiality nonce, and this is not a nonce who nonces on puppies or something.
No, instead, this is a nonce who also engages in bestiality.
And you can see the dispatch here from Rory, because we have the dispatches on the website for sort of breaking news, and the headline being, woman, in quotes, 60 jailed after raping Alsatian.
Yeah.
Um...
I'll be allowed to swear.
We'll try and keep it to a minimum, I suppose.
But anyway, a biological Cheshire man, identifying as a woman, has been jailed after taking part in what prosecutors called a "cocaine-fuelled sex orgy with an Alsatian".
Transgender Cheshire man Claire Goodyear, formerly known as John, was convicted for the possession of child pornography in 2006/2009, and has been visited by the police at his home at July 19th, 2019, who carried out a routine sex offenders register check.
According to Cheshire Standard, officers took a laptop that contained evidence that Goodyear had secured...
Sorry, had scoured the internet for bestiality content.
A full analysis conducted by the officers later found hidden folders on the offender's laptop containing some 31 indecent images of a sex act with an Alsatian dog.
Upon being arrested on June 17th this year, police reportedly found in Goodyear's handbag a USB containing the same images and 3.5g of cocaine.
I mean, what a story.
Yeah.
I mean, the cocaine bit is by far the least bad.
No, but I mean, could you get a worse human being doing worse things?
I mean, no.
No.
I mean, maybe if they were physically noncing instead of collecting images and raping a dog, quite frankly, maybe.
But that's about it.
I mean, this is one of the scummiest people on the planet.
Anyway, in the trial in Cheshire Crown Court on Wednesday, Paulinus Barnes, prosecuting, said that Goodyear had admitted to the possession of the images.
So he just said, you got me, governor, which, yeah, they do.
And the quote from the prosecutor here.
Who was this stone wall that she met with?
The prosecutor is Stonewall, they're using the pronouns.
I don't want to offend the defendant, who is charged with being a nonce, well, convicted of being a nonce, and charged with raping a dog.
No, no, no.
We'll make sure we use the correct pronouns, shall we?
Yes.
Right, okay.
But also, it's disgusting to see that apparently there is some kind of dog trafficking in the UK. Well, the sad thing is that this is perfectly in keeping with the genderqueer theory of sexuality, isn't it?
Nothing is off limits.
Everything's gender.
Oh, do expand.
Yes.
Well, think about it.
If you negate biological sex as a reference, then there's no limits to what you can interpret as masculine or feminine or objects of attraction.
Anything that expresses itself in a certain way, if you see an attraction in that and you see something performative, That stimulates a sexual attraction, then you are oppressed if you are not allowed to pursue that.
So there is actually intrinsic to intersectionalism is an argument that this is fine.
No, not even fine, but she is an oppressed minority of dog ether.
Yeah.
I really want to swear in this one, but I'm going to try not to.
Me too.
Hell, man.
Anyway, yeah, that's why queer theory is garbage.
It also goes for the nonce stuff as well.
Burn it.
Burn it.
And as I've mentioned before, I mean, this is why the queer wars are a thing as well in the alphabet community.
So they also continue.
Simon Mills, defending, said his client had always been frank and honest before calling on the judge to consider another suspended sentence.
So apparently, the child porn stuff, they didn't go to prison for it.
And then this one is like, well, this time we've got to send you to jail.
Nice.
Why didn't they go to prison the first time?
They've got a suspended sentence or something.
I don't know what the argument is.
Frankly, it sounds like some of the other cases we've seen in which they're just like, yes, well, you know, the defendant may be a nonce, but they are transgender.
Because I remember there was even a case of that in Swindon.
The local court, someone went down there and was like...
I think they were, I want to say something that's wrong, but they were charged with something noncery, either being a nonce or having nonce images.
And then in court they were like, yes, but if I go to prison, I'm transgender, I could be abused.
Oh, of course.
And then the judge was like, well, fair enough.
And that's hence the suspended sentence.
Yes, I see it now.
I don't know about this case.
I assume the same, but I don't know.
So the quote from there, this incident took place some three years ago.
The picture is now one of sporadic offending.
This is not a case where the offending is getting more and more serious.
She will do everything asked of her by the court and there are tentative signs of improvement in her attitude and approach.
I don't believe it, but also the her, the she's mentioned throughout in these quotes because the court case was done in a foreign language apparently in which we don't recognize the reality and instead recognize the political correct reality, which is that the nonce dog rapist is an oppressed minority which is that the nonce dog rapist is an oppressed minority and therefore deserves special treatment about how we refer to We should all be very careful about such things.
And as you can see with Rory there, not having it.
But we go over to the other media outlets, and we can check GB News here, who did a, what's the standard thing here, which is saying trans woman jailed for cocaine-fueled sex with a dog.
I say the standard thing as if this is a standard headline, but whatever.
But trans woman being the argument of, you know, a man who thinks he's a woman, wants to be a woman, and therefore is referred to as a trans woman.
Okay?
They mention here, of course, that Claire was previously known as John, so making it clear that this is a transgender person, or someone who says they're a woman.
And, well, that's not how the rest of the media report it.
I'm saying left or right as well, apparently.
So if we go to the Mirror, so the Mirror, being a socialist left-wing outlet, I mean, just openly, they've always spoiled the Labour Party whenever they can, except when things get way too bad, and they're like, hang on a second, I made him up poor.
Going back to old history there.
But anyway, what did they go with?
They went with the headline, Woman jailed over cocaine-fuelled sex with a dog in disgusting incident.
No quotes.
No little quotes around the woman part, or trans woman.
No, just a woman.
How good are them for at least thinking to include the word disgusting in it?
You'd almost think that would be crossing a line for the mirror, wouldn't you?
Yeah, they'd be like, well, you know, it is an oppressed minority group.
If you could scroll back up just to the face, I'm sure people have seen, but yeah...
I don't know how you publish this with a straight face and not just think about what you're doing with your life.
They haven't even tried to compromise the resolution so they can at least cover up the beard.
Anyway, you can see the stubble in HD, which is evident.
Anyway, moving down.
So let's go for just some of the random quotes out of here, which I picked out to make the point that they not once even admit that this person is transgender and all the rest of it.
Not even once.
So, some other quotes.
Claire Goodyear of Norwich, Cheshire, was described as manipulative and deceitful by a probation officer.
She took part in a sickening act with another adult.
The judge said she had been astonishingly lucky to avoid previous spells behind bars.
Pauline Barnes, prosecuting, said the police had called her home to carry out routine checks.
Again, her home.
The fact that she's a sex offender.
She.
See, even I'm falling into it now.
She.
When she committed the Sex Act between the 15th and 16th of December, Goodyear had also been in breach of her suspended sentence order.
Judge Evert told Goodyear that he did not agree with the probation service assessing her as a low-risk re-offending prisoner and sent her to prison.
He told her, you're a long, long way from changing your life.
Goodyear sobbed in the dock as she was sentenced to Cheshire Crown Court on December 22nd with the judge jailing her for 20 months.
Her, she, she, her, her, her.
It's almost as if they're actually trying to break the world record for how many pronouns you can actually fit in a paragraph.
Yeah, I mean, how polite can we be to the nonce rapist of a dog?
Why?
Why bother, frankly?
You know, questions have to be asked.
Why are you so concerned with this?
Well, of course, it's because of their ideology.
If we go back to the mirror, John, just to make the point as well, if you can scroll up and down on that, just so people can check out for themselves.
I didn't find a single reference in there to the point that this person is transgender as well.
Not one.
Not even just trans woman.
No, not even going to do that.
Just woman.
Just woman.
Yeah, to transmit the idea.
This has nothing to do with the intersectional ideology, which, as I tried to explain, it does.
Yeah, but even to the point of, you know, you could read GB News and I could see why some people would be annoyed at even the phrase trans woman.
They're just like, no, it's bloke.
Stop pissing around.
And I get that argument.
But, you know, at least they're making it clear that you can see that this, okay, yeah, this is not, well, don't piss about.
But with the mirror, the mirror went just nothing, no information whatsoever except the image.
They're not even going to admit to themselves that this is clearly a farce, and instead just make you try, or at least make you try and believe the absolute nonsense that this is definitely a woman, 100%, zero mention of her penis, presumably.
I don't know how the dog was raped either, but I don't want to know, so only that.
But again, how do you rape a dog?
As a woman?
I don't know.
There were some responses I saw.
Some people were saying, like, this is why men are scared to walk the streets at night because of women like this.
I'm not sure.
I did hear this from someone.
But isn't it actually...
I mean, can you be charged with rape as a woman?
I don't think so, no.
I don't think you can.
I thought you could, and then when I go and check that some people corrected me, apparently in British law, nah.
Yeah, because I heard that from a lawyer as well.
Which, um...
And it's, well, needless to say, they haven't mentioned this once either.
Don't worry, you can rape a dog as a woman, apparently now.
Oh, now it makes sense.
Yes, anyway.
But there's also the point that was raised, I saw some people joking, but half-joking, about the fact, well, if he had just come in and been like, you know what, I identify as a dog...
Could he claim that this wasn't bestiality?
Is the court going to play along with that and give the correct pronouns for this trans-species human?
Well, by extension, it would fit within the ideology, wouldn't it?
And we can all say, obviously, that's ridiculous.
But yeah, we all accept that the judge and the prosecutor and the defending lawyer and the media here.
And if one identifies as a dog, one can also lay claim that the dog consented.
God, this is getting dark.
But this is the thing.
You know, this is why I wanted to cover it.
Because, I mean, just look at the logic you're running into.
And this is a real current case in the UK that went to court.
You know, educated people, not idiots.
People who have gone through to the point of being a judge or a lawyer.
You know, they spend all their time.
And they come out into the courtroom.
And they're looking at this dog rapist.
And being like, Yes, so she is very sorry for raping the dog.
And everyone plays along with it.
I mean, I can see why the Eastern Europeans just look at us and just think we're mad.
And quite frankly, you should build a lion curtain to keep out the West at this point.
Which, who can blame them?
Yeah, and some have even made the case, and it seems more compelling every day, I'm afraid, to say that this is perhaps why Muslims hate us so much.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, what happens in the West doesn't stay in the West.
They see what we're up to and they cringe as much as, say, we do.
Except they then start thinking, yeah, there's something wrong with the West.
Maybe they deserve X, Y, or Z. I should say that's why the terrorists hate us so much, not the Muslims.
Honestly, I think average people in Arabia also look at this and just think, well, what is wrong with the West?
And, well, they're justified in thinking that, at least.
Anyway, moving on.
So let's go to the next one as well, which is The Sun, which is purportedly some right-wing outlet.
I think they're just a corporate outlet, quite frankly.
But as you can see, The Scottish Sun here.
They also went after Dankula a lot back in the day, because they're scum.
And they, again, also went with the idea of, if you can scroll down on this, John, for the headline, just pedophile, just trans woman.
No, no, no, no, I mentioned that.
Claire Goodyear, 60.
Yeah, yeah.
Her, she, again, all the way through, just her and she.
No quotes, no pointing out the realities.
No reference to the likely source of the mental instability that has caused all of this.
Except the image.
You can look at the image.
But it's like weird Soviet propaganda, where they're saying things, and they're providing them with an image that obviously contours what they say.
You know, the she, her, she, her, she, her.
And they just expect you to believe it.
I mean, it really is something insane when we are presenting with the image of the reality and all the text around the image contours reality.
And they expect you to look at that and go, oh, rightio, fair enough.
Yeah, the rising female rapist and dog rapist is just skyrocketing in the UK at random.
I suppose.
What you just described was the phenomenon of reification.
There you are.
Anyway, so let's go to the next one.
So we have some random retards on Twitter as well, of course, who are all upset about the fact that GB News even dare said that this was a trans woman.
It is.
It's a dude who thinks he's a woman.
Anyway, we can click on some of these just to make a point.
These are just random retards.
But, you know, that's twitter.com for you.
Hammer and Sickle and Bio.
Again, always.
And them being very mad, they're like, this is a campaign to make people think trans women are rapists.
I was like, why would you need to do that?
Also, if a man had done this, or a normal woman had done this, you'd still run the story because it'd be insane.
But if a man had done this, no doubt they would have jumped on this, like they did with the Sarah Everett case, to claim that this is an expression of patriarchal tyranny, whilst also claiming that, well, anyone can identify as a man anyway.
I'm sure some of the radical TERFs will definitely be doing that, which is, you know, look at this male rapist.
Yes, and, well, in this case, they would be right.
In this particular individual, yeah.
What the hell?
Anyway, if we just skip through these so you can just go through the images to show that there are multiple retards.
There are always retards on Twitter, isn't there?
I'm going to keep using that word for these people.
Come on.
Come on.
They're looking at this and being like, you know what the real problem is here?
The TERFs.
Misgendering the dog rapist.
What's wrong with you?
Anyway.
So let's go to the next one here, which is the Daily Mail.
So the Daily Mail actually did have a little bit of a leak out of this, so they spoke to someone from the court system, and they found out where they're going, which is female prison?
No.
Apparently we learned that lesson.
They're going to male prison.
They're going to male prison.
So in here, transgender paedophile, 60, who was jailed for 20 months for having cocaine-fueled sex with a dog, is sent to male prison because she is not legally a man.
Sorry, not legally a woman.
It's like...
Is that the language used?
Again, I don't know why they used she there, but whatever.
At least they mentioned that the person is transgender.
Because she is legally, yeah.
The bare bloody minimum, I guess.
Anyway, so in here they say, The Mail Online has learnt that the defendant, twice convicted of possessing indecent images of children, has been sent to HMP Old Course.
Sorry if I'm saying that wrong.
It is a Category B men's private prison and young offenders institution situated in Liverpool.
A source told the Mail Online, prisoners go to whichever prison matches their legally recognised gender.
This defendant is in a male prison HMP. The jail is where Man City star Benjamin Mendy is currently being on remand ahead of his multiple rape trial next year.
So they could be bunkmates or something, I suppose.
I'm sure they'll guess along.
Yeah.
But there's also just the point there made by the source, which is that they're meant to go to a legally recognised gender kind of prison.
So they're legally recognised as a woman, then they can go to the woman's prison.
And this is all just a bit of paperwork.
So the only reason this man has been sent to a male prison is not because he's a man, but instead because he's legally a man.
But he can legally change that to being a woman if he just files the Gender Rationist Act and gets the verification from the government.
Still nothing technically stopping the dog rapist.
Right.
Right, and should that happen, they'd be transferred to another prison?
Presumably a woman's prison.
God knows what's stopping them.
Goodyear was identified in the court listings under the male name, but was added with a note saying that they would be addressed in the hearing as Claire.
A sexual harm prevention order was issued under that female identity.
Not under the male one.
Even though I've sent him to a male prison.
What the hell?
Like, what the hell is intersectionality done to our justice service?
Anyway.
The Gender Recognition Act 2004 allows people to legally change their sex and obtain gender recognition certification, proving it.
Which isn't correct.
Again, bit of fake news by the Daily Mail there.
It's legally changing your gender, not sex.
You can't change your sex legally or physically.
Can't be done.
Anyway.
But at least, I suppose, on this story, we do have a little bit of a partisan difference to some extent, or at least a measurable one, let's say.
So if we go to the next link here, you can see Joe.
Joe.co.uk.
For people who don't know or don't follow it enough, Joe is just an openly leftist outlet and they promote absolute crap from the Labour Party.
And this is an example of it, in which they got an exclusive interview with Lisa Nandy.
I can't wait to see this.
The question on his mind is, should rapists, male rapists, who believe that one, be sent to female prisons?
You'd think that would be an easy question to answer, wouldn't you?
I'm going to go with no.
I don't know what your opinion is on this.
I assume no.
And that's not Lisa Nandy's.
Let's play the clip.
Someone stood up and asked you a question and they asked you about the case of a person who had raped a child and then since self-identified as a woman and whether that person should then be imprisoned with other women.
You said yes.
Can you explain why?
I didn't say that he should be or she should be imprisoned with other women, but the question was, does a person who self-identifies as a woman have the right to be accommodated in a women's prison?
And the answer to that is yes.
Not with other women.
We would never accommodate violent offenders alongside other prisoners and other non-violent offenders.
There are serious questions about safety in women's prisons that go way beyond this issue and they're some of the things that we really ought to be talking about and ought to be tackling and haven't had enough attention in recent years.
And actually one of the positive things about this leadership campaign is the fact that Keir, Becky, me, Emily, Jess and Clive All say the same thing.
Every single person who stood to be leader of the Labour Party believes in that principle.
What principle?
That rapists should be in female prisons, but that females shouldn't be in female prisons.
I don't even know.
That's just a transgender prison, then.
That's just the most ridiculous exhibition of intersectional Olympics newspeak that I've ever seen.
It's almost as bad as, what was it, Joe Swenson being asked what woman is, and she's like, well, women use to lose.
Okay, that's a start.
There's no forward on that.
What a mess.
Again, you also saw at the start there.
Lisa Nandy goes, he, oh sorry, she, again, we're talking about nonce, and you're like, I don't want to offend them, I don't want to misgender the nonce.
What's wrong with them?
And also the point, of course, that everyone in the Labour Party agrees on that.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who is arguing for why male rapists should be emancipated in female prisons is in no position to speak on the welfare of women whatsoever.
No, they should not exist.
The Labour Party are an insult to humanity on this.
They really, really are.
And I am mad, as most people should be, that the prison service run by the Conservatives, I don't know who the Conservative prison minister is right now, but they ought to have this solved and I should have solved it ages ago, which is just, no, prisons are done by sex, not gender, go away, go to hell.
Wouldn't be difficult to impose.
No, same thing with the passports, you may remember the recent passport case.
Sex on your passport, not gender.
So, get lost, was the conclusion.
But we do have some, let's say, sanity, at least from Priti Patel on this.
So, Priti Patel, been criticised for a lot of things, fair enough, but on this, she is correct.
Home Secretary Priti Patel orders woke police forces to stop recording offences as female crime statistics.
So, if a man who says he's a woman rapes someone, the police are instructed, at least in England, I don't know what's happening in Scotland, to say, no, that is a man.
We're not having this crap.
Well, that's a good start.
Yeah.
I mean, you can see at least the right opinion being there, which is that, no, we're not messing around with this.
I don't care if you misgender the rapist.
They're a rapist who gives up anyway.
I mean, I... Yeah, I mean, they still wouldn't have any weight if they, I don't know.
Again, I mean, how would this work in practice?
In order for them to be recognised as a woman raping another woman, they would need to have that backing from the health services.
But it reminds me again of one of the various problems within the grooming gang scandals in the UK, which is that they don't want to imprison Muslim rapists because, well, they were Muslim, and therefore it would be politically incorrect because, well, we'd be arresting brown people, and that would be racist.
I don't care.
I don't even care if you get called a racist or look like a racist.
The dude's a rapist!
A nonce rapist!
And instead, no, not even going to do that.
They let it become worse and worse.
Apparently still are.
And at least this problem is slowly being solved.
What a story.
Slowly, but no.
Right, well, I would like to brighten things up just a little bit.
In the spirit of Christmas, by talking about snow and snowflakes, Jon Snow to be precise, though it's probably not the Jon Snow you were thinking of at home, it is this Jon Snow.
The newsreader at Channel 4 who has decided to call time on his career after 32 years.
This article reads, The 74-year-old who is one of the UK's longest-serving TV news presenters told BBC Radio 4's media show last week that his departure would be like leaving a marriage.
He presented Channel 4 news for the last time at 7pm last night.
Co-presenter Krishnan Guru-Murthy described Snow as the most energetic, enthusiastic, committed and questioning TV journalist who brought compassion and humanity to his reporting, whether in the studio, war or disaster zone.
He added, It is no wonder viewers love him or that politicians who get angry with his questions respect him.
His last day has been an emotional one for the whole newsroom.
We knew it was coming, but can't quite believe it is happening now.
Now, Channel 4 gave him a send-off by putting together a compilation video of the 32 years that he worked for the broadcaster, if we get the next one up here.
I'm not going to play the video because it's a bit long and a little bit cringe, but you can basically see him posturing a very embarrassing hairstyle, obviously because he started in the late 80s, having a famous showdown with Alistair Campbell, interviewing Nelson Mandela, carrying the Olympic torch for the London 2012 Games, covering several stories in the third world, having an interview with the actual Jon Snow, taking part in Channel 4's pretty pointless live marijuana trial, if you had the displeasure of seeing that, because he was a notorious stoner in his youth, I'm led to believe.
He was wearing all sorts of eccentric ties, singing with Catherine Tate, and of course, covering the EU referendum, Trump and the Brexit fallout, where he rose to a whole new level of prominence.
A whole lot of people have offered tributes, of course, as you'd expect if we move on to the next one.
So if you scroll down, you can see that they ended with the credits entirely attributed to Jon Snow.
Yeah, just if you scroll a little bit more to the picture.
He was credited for voice, mentor, leader, inspiration, driving force, moral compass and friend.
It's, yeah, this one here.
So there we are.
This is Channel 4's moving tribute.
He is a god.
He is literally a god.
Yep.
And other tributes included Channel 4 News' correspondent Kieran Jenkins, who shared a video of Snow performing a sea shanty that went viral on TikTok earlier this year.
I've no idea.
I don't use TikTok.
And the ITV news presenter, Lucrezia Milenaar, I'm not going to read that out, described Snow as a legend, adding, Wow, a constant on-screen presence in my household growing up.
Then I was lucky enough to work in the same building.
So I've got to mention just how crap we are with, like, names we can't pronounce.
I know, no, no, I can't.
I can't put my hands up.
Like, all of us on this.
But yeah, he's particularly popular among leftists, such as Dawn Butler, if we get the next one up here.
So yes, we will miss you, John.
Because John and Channel 4 being a hive of leftism.
I mean, I just remember that name of the presenter who I can't fully remember.
Now the one who was first mentioned and giving such a roaring ovation to Mr.
Snow.
I don't know if you've seen, he interviewed Nezrin Malek a while back.
I haven't seen that.
But anyway, just propping up fellow leftists, and she's a nutcase.
And in the interview itself, she's just running apologia for Charlie Hebdo's killers.
And it's just like, what the fuck?
like and she does this in front of him and he's like oh interesting points keep him yeah he didn't actually push back on the justification no of bliminek nonetheless it seems to be in keeping with the way channel 4 like to do things um i suppose given that john snow has served 32 years at channel 4 as a newsreader i guess he deserves some tributes
i mean that that is an awfully long time but i think it's fair to say that he also deserves to be remembered for his pretty naked biases which he's exhibited in the last five years especially since the eu referendum I mean, to be perfectly honest, I don't know about you, but before the build-up to the EU referendum, I'd barely even taken notice of Jon Snow.
But he has, in short, well, proved himself, particularly in the referendum's aftermath, to be a pretty ardent Remainer, which is in keeping with the rest of Channel 4.
But anyway...
He moderated a debate on the 10th of January in 2019 called What Young People Really Think, which, as suggested in the title, is comprised of young people who couldn't vote at the time, but can at the time of the debate, and who...
And they were basically rounded up to basically have it out as to what the future of Britain should be in or outside of the European Union.
And he found himself to be...
Asking people who can't vote because they're so young, they're not even given the right to vote.
Yeah, and he found himself...
He found himself to be rather surprised, basically, by how articulate some of the young leavers turned out to be.
So if we play the first clip...
Yeah, let's hear from you.
I think the whole campaign actually patronised young people, and still is, especially the People's Vote campaign.
Because they've been trying to sort of buy people off, buy young people off, especially with things like cheap holidays, and they're not talking about the real issues, about the way our country has gone for the last 40 years, austerity in Greece imposed by the EU, all of these really important things.
And Parliament has completely missed the point as well.
The EU imposed austerity on Britain?
No, on Greece.
But the EU locks us into a neoliberal straitjacket.
I thought you were implying that Britain had its austerity imposed by the...
No, but it locks us into a neoliberal economic model.
And if we want to make real change in Britain, which is what is needed after what we've seen, the complete rejection of the status quo that was the Brexit vote, we need to leave.
Yes, as you can tell, Jon Snow...
Was that a Joe Biden moment there?
Almost.
Well, you could say like for like.
But he's attacking a straw man here.
The young lad has made a perfectly intelligible point about Britain perhaps not wanting to be a part of a neoliberal project, that it doesn't have any democratic vote over.
And he immediately jumps to the assumption that he's talking about.
He quite clearly heard that he was talking about The EU imposing austerity on Greece.
He never once mentioned the EU imposing austerity in Britain, but he's looking for cracks nonetheless, because obviously he's come to this debate assuming that these leavers, these awful leavers, don't know what they're talking about.
Or you could just make up what they're talking about.
Or you could just make up what they're talking about and everyone else would buy it.
But his point was that Britain, what obviously was being subsumed into a neoliberal framework and that it did not consent to was the reason why a lot of people needed to leave because the Brexit vote was a rejection of the status quo based almost entirely around It's subsumption into that framework.
This was the centre point of the Leave position, if anything was.
Both Corbyn's camp and hardline Eurosceptics was united in this content of neoliberalism.
They, of course, had a very different idea of what they'd put in its place.
But Corbyn voted against the Maastricht Treaty with many other Tory rebels.
So if anything is a staple Brexit position, it is that.
But the funny thing is, Jon Snow continued to look around the room, and he kept picking out more and more levers, all offering different reasons as to why stopping Brexit is a bad idea.
Most of them, in short, were not out-and-out Brexiteers, but rather defending Theresa May's deal at the time, on the pragmatic grounds that it's perhaps better to have a compromise than to end up staring down the barrel of a political crisis or leaving without a deal.
deal.
I mean, I would argue that deal was not really a compromise at all, but anyway.
Jon Snow proceeds to pick out a young man who is a member of Wakefield's youth parliament, Labour, and the young man argues for a left-Ur sceptic position and leaves Jon Snow almost speechless.
And Snow basically cries out to the room in a desperate attempt to find a Remainer or an advocate to stop Brexit, only to then find another person advocating for the respect of the referendum.
So let's get this up.
So I'd just like to come in on his neoliberal point, really.
I'm actually the member of Youth Parliament for Wakefield, so obviously Jeremy Corbyn spoke in my constituency yesterday.
Really, in terms of neoliberal policy, the EU actually makes different member states privatise different public sector industries.
So you feel basically we should leave?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, there's an interesting number of leaves.
Clearly the Remainers don't feel very strong-voiced tonight.
Anybody got anything you'd like to say?
Help.
I feel like having a second referendum is quite dangerous as an idea.
I feel like once we were told that, people were told it's a once-a-generation thing, and then suddenly people are now asking for a second vote, although I would have voted Remain.
I feel like it kind of devalues a vote and that you've now set a precedent that what should be a final say, imagine like in the 1970s when they were voting on the common market, if people who are our age suddenly said, well, we don't want it, can we have a second vote?
You kind of mess around with the actual idea of democracy.
So here's an appointment of a second referendum.
How many of you actually want the opportunity to vote?
Yeah, I mean, of course, the Remainers revealed themselves there.
But Jon Snow clearly turned up, expecting the youth to be a united front on this subject of the European Union, or maybe there to be about two or three deplorables, expecting to hear a chorus of support of how it's literally going to be Armageddon, a chorus of support for a people's vote, how all the old basically stole the young's future, etc., etc., etc.
And that was all in the first five minutes.
I mean, that must have been a massive shock for him, but clearly he's...
If you're working for an organisation like Channel 4, you're immediately almost going to assume that it's as clear-cut as is being presented.
Do you remember the election results?
When they came through the snap, what was it?
The polling for Boris Johnson and the groans for Channel 4.
A lot of people just have that clip that's saved in their computer because it's wonderful.
It just says everything.
He basically almost went into that, moderating it, not looking like a moron necessarily, but looking a little bit like a headless chicken, anticipating something entirely different.
Anyway, I must move on to his most mask-off moment, if you like, which occurred during his coverage of a pro-Brexit protest organised by UKIP in 2019.
Now, we of course have to put this into perspective.
The day that this occurred was the 23rd of July, stated repeatedly by Theresa May as the day we were supposed to leave the European Union, Brexit Day.
And while it didn't happen, because she couldn't get her deal passed through the House of Commons, at this point the People's Vote campaign was gaining traction.
In the same month, one million people took to the streets of London to campaign for a second referendum.
Corbyn had finally capitulated on a second referendum, not officially, but we could tell it was leading that way because Keir Starmer was gaining in confidence.
Well, Theresa May's deal was pretty much dead.
And it really did feel like the Remainer coup was working.
So there was a lot of anger from the Brexiteers' side.
It was starting to boil over a little bit.
And to be honest, a betrayal seemed to be happening in front of the very eyes of everyone who voted Brexit.
So many of these Brexiteers, mostly ordinary, I would say, working class people, turned up to this protest organised by UKIP. And the point of the protest was basically to illustrate the utter farce that is happening in Parliament.
And this is how Jon Snow covered the matter.
It has been the most extraordinary day.
A day which has seen...
I have never seen so many white people in one place.
It's an extraordinary story.
There are people everywhere.
There are crowds everywhere.
This actually reminds me of a video that went viral about a weather woman commentating on rain, if you've seen that.
She literally looks like she's acting in the day after tomorrow.
I just remember, I think, John, weren't me and you actually at that protest?
Were you?
We're the white people.
No, he's literally reporting as if an insurrection is about to happen, which of course it didn't, because it literally looks like...
But the insurrection was coming from the guys arguing for a second referendum!
Yes, precisely.
I didn't even vote for Brexit!
They were literally protesting the insurrection, and as you can see, there were as many police dressed in riot gear as there were actually people at the protest, but it's just utterly absurd claims.
I mean, the person who uploaded that video that we just saw actually refers to the 2011 census, which shows 87% of people in the UK at that point were registered as white.
And having made this remark, we can only assume that he's literally never been anywhere outside of London in the United Kingdom.
I mean, what else could the conclusion be?
Yes.
Oh my god, white people.
How has that happened?
You must only live in London if you're so shocked by that.
Yes.
But anyway, he was actually investigated by Ofcom for this remark, if you recall, because of the level of complaints received, if we get this up.
Yeah, just imagine the reverse.
I know this is a bit of a meme thing to do, but like, oh no, I've never sued so many brownies before.
Yeah, oh god.
Instantly fired.
Yeah, instantly fired.
You probably would have had, I don't know, ten times, if not more than that, by the way of complaints.
This received 2,717 complaints after Jon Snow said that.
Channel 4 did actually release...
He was found to have been not in breach of Ofcom's code, as his comments were apparently factually accurate.
Sorry, no, we checked.
We brain-scanned Jon Snow to see every memory, and he had not seen so many white people before.
Therefore, what kind of statement is that?
I know, but they continue to say, they judge that he did not use negative or pejorative language, tone, intent, or implication.
Why did he say it?
What was the implication of him saying it?
Yeah.
There's lots of white people at this protest.
Oh my god, it's Armageddon.
But also, it must be bad.
Why?
Why is white people being in a protest bad?
The reverse argument is like, well, there's a lot of black people in this protest, therefore...
Right, okay, that person is instantly fired, instantly just kicked out of the mainstream, not allowed to even be on any kind of television show, never mind an Ofcom regulated one.
And no, Jon Snow just gets away with it.
Yep.
Well, Channel 4 did try to alleviate this by issuing an official apology by saying John has covered major events such as this over a long career and this was a spontaneous comment reflecting his observation that in the London demonstration of that size, ethnic minorities seem to be significantly underrepresented.
Well, No offence, John, but you were there.
But also, according to the country's census, no, as well, as you were saying.
Like, the country is overwhelmingly white, therefore the protests being overwhelmingly white, why would that be a shock?
Also, that doesn't even make it underrepresented.
It's only underrepresented if you compare it to a London borough.
Yes.
And more to the point, why does the bloody demographic even matter?
Yes.
This is not an issue about race at all.
It's a matter of British sovereignty.
It doesn't matter that the skin colour of those people does not matter.
It is what they're acting in virtue of that matters.
But anyway...
That's not the news.
We have the racial forecast instead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Collapsing that into whiteness is kind of just as bigoted as if you'd done that with any other race.
But anyway, I would like to end in an attempt at good spirit by giving Jon Snow some places to avoid for his well-deserved retirement.
He doesn't want to see any white people.
Because he doesn't want to see any white people.
And all of these places are at least, was it 98% white?
I mean, we can actually sort it if you click on the percentage bit.
And the next, yes.
So John, avoid Allardale, Eden, the City Isles, Mid-Devon, Rydale, Staffordshire Moreland, Torridge, Derbyshire Dales, North Norfolk, and so on.
Shall we actually take a...
I picked out one of these.
Rydale, in fact.
Shall we have a look at how awful Rydale is?
Oh, God.
Oh, dearie me.
Oh, no.
John, keep away.
John, don't move there.
You'll literally die.
Oh, look at that protest.
Oh, my God.
Oh, that looks lovely.
It does look like the sort of place where Midsomer Murders would be filmed.
There might be some white people there, John.
Better stay out.
Oh my god, never go there, John.
An insurrection is happening!
Some people talking about what is that?
Yeah.
Instead, John, maybe you should try holidaying in, well, the least white places which are Newham, Brent or Harrow.
Oh no, wait, that's all London.
Hmm.
You're already in London.
Yes.
You'll be fine.
Jon Snow, thank you very much for your service.
Have a happy retirement.
I thought we'd end this off with a section talking about Democrat refugees.
Oh, fantastic.
Democrat refugees are becoming a serious crisis, especially within the United States.
And there's been a bit of a meme, let's say, in political circles for a small amount of time, which is that a lot of Democrats keep fleeing the blue states and they're going to the red states.
And then what do they do?
Well, they vote blue and the red states become blue and then they ruin the whole place again.
And then they move on to another place and ruin that one and so on and so forth.
And this has been a bit of a refugee crisis of people who are Democrats fleeing Democrat places, going to Florida and then trying to elect Democrats.
Again, that's because they haven't learned the lesson.
And it's always been a bit of a joke, but now we have the confirmation of it, which is the US Census.
So the Census results have come out, and as you can see here from Breitbart, reporting on the situation.
Census.
Democrats, sorry, Americans flee left-wing lockdown states for open red states.
And this has obviously been exaggerated.
Like the movement has obviously been a thing and has now been exaggerated because of the, let's say, response to COVID from Democrats, which has been to lock their places down and enforce vaccine passports or whatever the hell else.
Blue states that have repeatedly imposed mask mandates, vaccine requirements and lockdowns over the last year have lost a population to red states that have done away with such policies.
Newly released data from the United States Census Bureau reveals that while blue states like California and New York have increasingly lost their population from July 2020 to July 2021, red states such as Texas and Florida have seen their populations increase.
33 states saw population increases over the last year, while 17 and Washington, D.C. saw their populations decline.
New York has suffered the largest numerical population decline with roughly 319,000 fewer residents today than a year ago.
How many of those died under...
Under the, uh, well, as a result of coronavirus.
None of them, because the rule moved to Florida.
Oh!
So they've all left New York and gone somewhere else.
No, no, I understand, yeah.
Yeah, New York, especially New York City, has imposed school closures, business lockdowns, vaccine requirements, and mask mandates sporadically over the last 12 months, and is doing so again, as we have seen the news coming out from there, and people being kicked out of Applebee's, the heroes of Applebee's...
I don't know what to call them, like the Martyrs of Applebee's or something, because I just find it really funny.
It's like, I just wanted to eat some food.
Yeah, well, you go to prison.
Okay.
That's Australian-style policing for you.
Anyway, so, yeah, everyone fleeing New York, and also because of the various other problems that these cities have, the endless crime and so on and so forth.
Simultaneously, Texas, which has not had any statewide Chinese coronavirus-related restrictions since March, has gained population to the sum of 310,000 residents.
Florida, with a similar ethos of remaining open, with little and no restrictions, saw the second largest numeric population gains after Texas, with more than 211,000 new residents.
California and Illinois, oppositely, saw the largest population decreases after New York.
So the states that are the worst are the ones that are the bluest and are losing all their population.
And the states that are doing the best and attracting the most domestic immigrants, because we love our immigrants, are all going to Florida and Texas because they're free.
They're free states instead of slave states.
Biomedical slave states.
Anyway.
In California, where mask mandates and vaccine requirements remain a policy in major cities, there are at least 262,000 fewer residents than there were a year ago.
In Illinois, with similar restrictive coronavirus-related policies and a statewide mask mandate, there are 114,000 fewer residents than a year ago.
Goodness.
Just fleeing.
I mean, this is, even in taking into account births, deaths, the immigration coming from outside the U.S. coming in, there's just people just being like, nah, I'm leaving, bye.
It's striking.
What the hell?
Anyway, so if we go to the next link here, we have the map itself.
And how does your state compare?
And you can go and see your state and compare it to, well, the S-hole states.
I know Trump used S-hole country, but the S-hole states is also a thing.
And as you can see with New York, California there.
Yes.
And then everyone moving to the other places.
I still can't get over how Montana really does look like Joe Biden's face sniffing the other state next to it.
You see that?
You see his little face on Montana there?
You get it?
No?
No, not quite.
Okay, some people will get it.
I never saw it before, and every time I see a map of the US states, I always see Joe Biden's face poking out there now.
Can't get rid of it.
Yeah, I'll have to look at that a little closer, I think.
Anyway, so this is population change.
This is before we even consider mass immigration to the United States, which still takes place.
I believe it was 700,000 people came to the US during the coronavirus season of 2020.
Wow.
Okay, mass lockdowns, foreign travel not really possible, but yet, you know, we go from a million a year to 700,000.
What?
Like, even with all that going on, you only reduce it by a third, but fine.
Anyway, so if we go to the next link here, there are some graphs we can also consider, especially in California's current situation, which are stark.
So as you can see here, California's population growth continues to slow in the first graph, and you can see that it's been shrinking over time.
Let's say since the 80s or since 1990 there, with a spike there.
But especially during recent years, from like 2010 to 2020, just flatlining.
Just going to zero.
Which, yeah, just people leaving, people not having kids there, people don't want to live there.
It sucks.
What can you blame them?
If we go to the graph too, we can see net migration, which is for California here, which is negative for the last three years alone.
pose lockdowns huge tax rises you know mass mandates all that even before you get to just openly tyrannizing people's day-to-day lives people like i'm leaving god i'm out of here and that's immigration even including the immigration from foreign places into california wow so if we go to the next one we can see uh migration within the state itself so So sorry, if we can go back and scroll down for the last graph, you can see the migration within the United States, which is just constantly people leaving.
So the domestic people of California, just constantly leaving.
I mean, since what?
2000?
Since 2000, we've got people leaving.
That's stark exodus.
Getting worse and worse since 2014, which, eh, can't blame them.
No.
If we go to the next article, there's some cope I thought we'd look at.
Oh, fantastic.
The San Francisco Chronicle, who's trying to have a bit of cope about this, which is they've got to report the facts, but then have to try and cover it up, being like, well, it's not a problem, we swear.
Yeah, no one else believes you.
They say in here, so they give some statistics, and they say there's a 4% decrease in births and a 22% increase in deaths, with 88% of those increase in deaths apparently being COVID. Well, I should say with COVID, not from COVID, because that's how the data is recorded.
And in here they say California is losing a congressional seat for the first time due to a slowing population growth in the prior decade, which...
At least there's some justice there.
Because, of course, the seats are decided by what the population of the state is.
Of course, yeah.
Yeah, at least they'll lose one seat there, which is neat.
And then Walter Schwamm, the state demographer...
demographer?
Demographer?
I can't read English.
The Department of Finance expects fewer deaths and more international immigration in the coming data sets for the second half of 2021.
Good luck with that.
Which could boost the state from going negative to flat All positive growth in the next six months.
I mean, being flat, just keeping people in the prison would be enough for them.
Quote, I do not believe we'll see things this negative, he said.
I was like, I do.
Also, I hope, because quite frankly...
You're going to need to build a wall to stop people from leaving.
Yeah, the Democrat refugees are going to be pouring out.
Well, they already are.
So, I mean, if you're a red state, be prepared.
And have a stern warning with the neighbours who just moved in from California.
Not vote in blue here.
Whatever you do, I don't care if you have your parties late at night, you know, make all the noise.
You like this community?
Great.
Then vote to preserve it, not destroy it.
Don't have to come to church.
Don't care.
Just don't vote blue.
Simple as.
Respectable condition.
I actually agree with that.
I think it was AA's solution on this, which he came up with a two-state solution at first, which was just like breakaway states.
It was like, okay.
And he's like, all right, no, we'll have immigration between the states, but just a 10-year memorandum where if you move to a state for 10 years, you can't vote because, you know, you're moving from a red to a blue state and you're going to bring a hellhole with you.
Anyway, well, bringing blue to red.
Anyway, so in here it says all nine Bay Area counties saw a drop in population for the first time on record between July 2020 and 2021, ranging from 0.19% loss in Solano County to a decrease of 1.77% in San Francisco.
So San Francisco being the most exodus place in the United States.
Unsurprising.
It is an absolute dive.
Yeah.
I mean, to lose 1.7% of your population in a year, just gone.
Isn't that Nancy Pelosi's statement?
Yeah, it's just everyone leaving.
It kind of reminds me of, not Meghan Merkle, Mama Markle instead.
Mama Markle.
Yeah, you remember she said that everyone could come to Germany and just, we're not going to check if you're ISIS. I remember it very, very well, yes.
Or a cologne harasser and all the rest of it.
I think Germany's population, what was it, was like 1 or 2% in that year?
Yeah.
Just one year, just 2% of the population.
Such an act of sadomasochism.
Well...
let's not talk about how the Germans hate the Germans.
And I think she's an avatar of that.
At least trying to destroy Germany.
Anyway, so if we move on, we of course have the problems with California as a specific place for this, which is why are people leaving California from some travel website, which I just love how they just list them all.
And if you can scroll down, you'll see just the headlines.
I'm just going to read the headlines of the points of why they say people are reading, which is rising state taxes, housing crisis, political problems, as if these things are disconnected, social and economic problems, Polite way of putting it.
Filth.
That's got to be the best word.
Filth.
As they say, San Francisco winning an award as the most doo-doo capital of the United States.
And is also the place where the most people are fleeing en masse because they can't stand living there, as seen by the previous statistic.
And where are they going?
Texas and Florida.
Unironically.
By the data, the census is in.
You have Democrat refugees moving en masse to your states.
Be on guard.
I don't know what else to say.
Filth.
The place is covered in poo.
That's what they're saying.
And syringes, yeah.
And they move on and they say insecurity, which is a very polite way of saying just crime constantly, which has been legalized by the state, again, by the politicians in that state.
I did love, a friend of mine living in Florida sent me a message, and there's some guy in charge of, I think it's her local police department or the county or whatever, and he says, if you want to go looting, move to California.
We won't allow that here.
Like, that was his statement on Christmas.
Like, you want to steal anything?
Go to California.
Don't worry, they've legalized it.
Go on.
I don't even care.
Run away!
Like, encouraging people to move to California to rob things.
It's just extraordinary.
Which, he's not even, you know, unwise in doing it, because it is good burglar advice.
What are the rates of businesses moving out in comparison?
I don't have those.
I really should.
Because I imagine those would be stark as well if it's quite literally legal to just loot.
I just love the legal advice.
Like, not even from the letters, but from the police.
The police advice is, if you're a burglar, we've got some advice for you.
Go and burgle California.
We've got many more profits.
Because if you burgle Florida, we're going to shoot you.
So, anyway.
They also say, devastating wildfires and ease of working from home being a new thing that people don't need to be in a...
Incredibly expensive hellhole and instead can move somewhere and just work from home because that's better.
And of course we have the examples as well in the major stars.
So we have Joe Rogan, as we have mentioned before, but I thought it's worth mentioning again, saying he's moved to Texas for the freedom and seems to be loving it.
I never see him say a bad word about it, so it seems to be alright.
We go to the next one, we also have Elon Musk who moved his factory out there and is trying to move himself, I believe, because while also the Democrats hate him, Did you see the most recent thing where he released how much he was paying in taxes?
Yeah, wasn't it like 100 billion?
No, no, it was 11 billion dollars.
11 billion, sorry, yeah.
But he's just like, I just brought you a new aircraft carrier.
I mean, that's what he's done.
He brought the country a new aircraft carrier with his taxes alone in a single year, and yet Elizabeth Warren is like, you're a freeloader.
You're freeloading off the United States.
I mean, could you think of a better way to have your geniuses leave your state and go elsewhere?
I can't believe she actually had the nerve to say that.
Anyway, moving on, we also have Ben Shapiro, who I didn't know actually, but apparently he moved to Florida as well.
So he moved the company, Daily Wire, to Nashville, Tennessee, and they operate from there.
But he personally moved to Florida, and there's like a 10-minute video I watched before we went on of just him being like, yeah, it's just better, and all the reasons why.
And one of the most interesting, which I don't think really gets enough credit, and Ben Shapiro brings it up constantly, but should be mentioned more, is the intolerance.
So, living in California, it's a Stalinist state.
Yeah, I can imagine.
In effect, which is that you're either blue, or you shut up.
And you never talk about it, and you don't go open about it.
And he's interviewed many, many a celebrity who worked in Hollywood, who were like, I just have to keep my mouth shut, because people are so intolerant here.
Apparently in Florida you can be a Dem or a Republican publicly and people are just like, I don't give a toss.
There are many cases still going on today where if you basically wear a MAGA hat, it's just normal for you to be attacked for it.
Or, you know, the mega hats come out and say, this is MAGA country.
There's fake hate crimes going on left, right, and center as well, which, yeah, there's no problem with blue states.
There's also one other mention in here that I have to mention because I just think it's a really horrible story, but kind of funny, which he mentioned that you've got Hollywood Boulevard, you know, on, like, the stars, and people are going to smash up Donald Trump's star because, you know, he's a bad man now, but he wasn't 10 years ago, even though his opinions haven't changed.
And there was just the promotion of poverty within LA specifically, and one incidence being that that entire area apparently has been taken up essentially by homeless people, and there was one incidence where a woman was walking along the boulevard, and some guy came up to her with a bucket full of feces, and threw the feces over her.
It was like, this used to be a Taurus zone.
I mean, like, you know, I play GTA 5 and you go and look at it and be like, oh yeah, the thing from TV. And then I remember what Ben Shapiro said about it and the reality of it.
I go, oh, how do I leave?
I'm going out to the countryside with Trevor because to hell with this place.
But anyway, that's the Democrat refugee crisis in the United States.
You don't have to worry about the crisis on the US border, quite frankly.
I think the more pressing one and the one that will do more damage to your country is the one from the inside.
Yeah.
Yes, 100%.
The ones coming to a state near you and really do have a firm talking with your new neighbours from California.
I think that's good advice.
Yes, I think so.
Let's go to the video comments.
I just want to wish everybody a very Merry Christmas.
Thank you for a bit of sanity here in Clown World.
Looking forward to next year.
I hope this isn't too cringe.
We wish you a Merry Christmas.
We wish you a Merry Christmas.
We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Very good.
Thank you for that.
That was nice.
Anyway, but also Wyss.
I love Scandinavian accents.
They're a funny thing.
She's not Swedish, is she?
No, she's Danish.
Oh, fair.
They're the ones who sound a bit more guttural sometimes.
The Swedish are like sing-songy sounding language, which is also something.
But there was something about those ships.
I'm on guard against the Swedes.
Thank you very much.
That was very nice.
Let's go to the next one.
This is going to be my final video for the year and for a while.
So you don't have to put up with any more of my Quincy videos for at least a couple of weeks.
Just wanted to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, not just to the Lotus Eaters crew, but also to the people who watch the Lotus Eaters.
Aw.
Nice garden.
That's perfect grass.
I don't hate your garden, but I hate gardens.
Really?
I'm actually looking about whether or not I can buy a place, and one of my requirements is basically no garden because I hate it.
Or, what I was thinking of doing is just replacing it all with astroturf.
Because the thing I hate the most is gardening.
Oh, okay.
I like the gardens.
I like being in a nicely kept garden, right?
But you don't like cutting the grass, maintaining the bushes, stuff like that.
I can't be done with it.
I don't get enough enjoyment out of it to be worthwhile.
No, I'm sympathetic to that.
Yeah, so John says my garden at home has bricked up floors.
So is mine, actually.
Yeah, but it's not like I don't get enjoyment out of a nice garden as well.
So if I was there visiting, you know, you could sit in that grass and have a good time and appreciate the beauty.
So I do, you know, if I could, I'd have something.
Buy and keep it.
So it better be made out of plastic.
Especially if it's a massive garden as well.
I mean, if you could afford to pay someone to look after it, then it wouldn't be a problem, but...
I suppose so, but then, you know, that's why you're hiring a maid to wash your clothes as well, because quite frankly, that's a pain.
Yeah.
He's got money for that.
Anyway, so, yeah.
Also, Merry Christmas to you.
Sorry.
Yeah, it's Merry Christmas.
You said I'm chatting about your garden instead.
Let's go to the next one.
So this Holocaust School segment really reminds me of a story called The Wave or The Villa.
It's about a teacher who tries to teach his students about the Holocaust and they're not really taking it seriously because they're like, oh, it was a long time ago and Hitler was just some psycho.
And the teacher wants to try to convince them, like, no, if under the right circumstances, if this happened today, you would also go along with it.
And he does this by getting the students to act out Thank you, Bay State.
Thank you very much.
I'm going to look that movie up.
I assume it's the 2019 one I found here, which I'm going to go and watch.
Yeah, I assume it's also based on Holocaust School.
Do you remember the Holocaust School segment?
No.
There was a highly leftist lady who had strong opinions on the Jews, and she was a teacher, even though she shouldn't have been.
She submitted a lesson plan for teaching the kids about the Holocaust, and then just threw that out the window, and instead had the class divided up into Nazis and Jews, and had one of the kids made Hitler.
Apparently it was a Jewish kid that made Hitler as well, but I haven't got that confirmed.
Oh my god.
And then they made the Jewish kids dig their own graves.
They gassed them in a gas chamber, you know, in a play sense, so made them choke themselves or pretend choke.
And then they had the Nazis shoot them all.
The Nazi kids shoot their classmates who were designated the Jews.
Why did she think this was a good idea?
Um...
And apparently she was also shouting hate speech, so presumably she was just shouting K-word at the Jewish kids, and has been put on leave.
Only on leave?
On leave, yeah.
I presume going to be fired, and hopefully some...
American justice, at least, there.
Yes, let's hope.
Yeah.
I mean, I assume he didn't try that in the movie, which you say he set up a fascist movement within the school.
And I'm half expecting a school movie, high school musical, except half the kids got armbands now or something.
Oh God, the music's going to be marching music as well, isn't it?
Yeah.
Actually, that would be a funny spectacle.
It probably would, yeah.
Well, maybe that's what the movie is, so I can't find out.
So, yeah.
Thanks, Base Ape, and happy Christmas.
It's got a nice one.
So, I received this when I got to bed.
Well, when I came up to go to bed.
And I can't help but feel this is a sick joke at the idea of me wanting to become a firefighter, because I have no f***ing training in axes yet.
Bit of a dick move, but, uh...
Okay, this might be my last video message.
Wish me luck, everyone.
F*** me.
What did I do to be on the naughty list?
Sorry, is Father Christmas threatening you with an axe?
Well, I guess you'd better take up firefighting, like, join the volunteer service or something, then.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Hey there, Lotus Eaters.
I thought I'd show you the outfit that I'm going to be wearing for Christmas tomorrow.
Very nice.
I'm going to my parents house and I'm going to be way overdressed.
They're probably all going to be in their pajamas and only my oldest little brother knows my plan.
It's going to be really funny.
To answer Callum's question from yesterday, this here is an electric baseboard heater.
I have them all over my house to provide heat for my place.
There you go.
I didn't know they existed.
Yeah.
Because there was one other type of heating that...
I'm obsessed with heating, but I got obsessed with it.
I was reading in one of the North Korean books about this Korean thing where you have underfloor heating and then the floor is warm.
And I was like, that's some wizard magic.
And then I found out it was real and it can be done.
So if I ever build a house, I'm definitely putting that in, which would be great.
But I could just buy those electric ones either.
It's an option.
Probably cheaper as well.
But yeah, thanks.
And yeah, good dress sense as well.
Yeah, and I hope you're well received tomorrow.
You ever watch The Pianist?
No.
There's a movie about the Holocaust where the main character plays a piano.
Oh, I've heard about it, yeah.
He's a Polish Jew.
I heard about it from Pitchin and WebSketch.
I was about to say The Pianist.
I was watching it yesterday, and I realised just throughout the entire movie, everyone's wearing three-piece suits constantly.
And of course, I get that it's a movie, so all the dirt's not on there, which should be in reality.
But there is something definitely set for the fact that we've lost the wearing of smart clothes more often than we should.
So, good that you made the effort.
I give you the first holy relic of dadism.
Sardong, the progenitor.
You know you want one.
I disavow.
Isn't Big Base Ape the dildo's guy as well?
Isn't that his job?
Yeah, same guy.
Yeah, but I'm just making sure he doesn't have any ideas for new merch on his store.
We'll sue you for that one.
Actually, I don't think we...
No, we couldn't, could we?
Because the face is owned by the original mask.
Just please don't, because...
No.
I'm not putting on a shirt either, John.
Anyway, moving on.
Tony D and Little Joan with the Feast of the Seven Fishes.
This is celebrated on Christmas Eve by Italian Americans.
It stems from the idea that the Catholics would abstain from eating meat or dairy the day before the big feast on Christmas Day.
But in some ways, I think the feast has overshadowed the Christmas Day dinner because it's all seafood and really any seafood would do.
Would you rather eat a big thing of shrimp or turkey?
Turkey, I think.
Yeah, absolutely.
What's happened to Joan there?
Is she right?
She's just asleep or passed out on you there.
The dog.
Alrighty.
I didn't know that.
Italians, they apparently have more culture than Chris Cuomo lets on.
Interesting stuff.
Really excited because I noticed you guys finally put in a merch store, which means I can finally get a Lotus Eater's t-shirt.
But then when I went to go...
Check it out.
The shipping, it was twice as much as the t-shirt.
I love you guys in the most heterosexual way possible, but $118 is a lot to be asked for a t-shirt.
Is Calum sewing these things himself?
Calum?
No, I'm not.
I don't own the business or run it, so I can only just pass that on to Cal because it's not a thing I'm involved with, but I'll let him know.
There have been discussions to try to solve this, because it is an extraordinary cost, but it's nothing that I have anything to do with all.
I'll just pass it on to Carl, there's nothing else I can do.
Sorry.
And, yeah, I have to sympathise.
This is for Callum.
Didn't know a better way to make you aware of this, but there's ten days left, and I figured, considering you're a fanboy of North Korea, you might want to get in on this makeshift campaign.
the website is right here well they don't do a very good job on advertising what they are but it's makeshift anyway I appreciate the recommendation, but no.
I think I'll probably politely pass on that.
Yeah, I mean, my interest with North Korea is largely actually around the state ideology, because people should really go and read more about it, and it is the, you know, an evolution.
You know, that evolutionary graph everyone has, you know, the little monkey, and he stands up a little bit more, and then you end up an upright human.
And there's a lot of comparisons, and we've done them, and part of the book club we've gone through, of how you can obviously get from socialism to national socialism, and it is unbelievably easy, and unbelievably bloody obvious, but people don't.
You should really check out North Korean state ideology.
And if you think it's Juche, you're really missing out.
You should really go and look at some other stuff about what they're teaching to their own citizens instead of propagandizing to the world as their state ideology.
Because it is the missing link, I would say, or at least a very, very good example of the missing link.
Yeah.
Victor Char actually released an incredible book on North Korea.
I think it's called The Impossible States.
If anyone wants to know more about that, I would strongly recommend it.
Yes, a long time ago.
I need to reread it, but it was excellent.
Really eye-opening.
I'll go about that after.
I'll leave that there because I've got nothing more to say on that topic and trying not to.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's go to the woodchipper fuel section.
I love how Vicky renames these.
This is on the nonce bestiality man.
Anyway, Awkward Motion says, I think it's safe to say that Cocaine Man made roots...
Sorry.
I don't want to read this in case it's messed up.
Made him brute an Alsatian.
If he was sober, it would have been Chihuahua.
Why?
I don't know.
Well, I suppose, I think this might be a play on the intersection of ideology.
Because if that dog happens to be, which we recognise as an Alsatian, is something other than an Alsatian...
Well, I'll restart.
What that object is, is entirely at the discretion of the attractor, right?
Or the person who's attracted to it.
So if he judges that to be an Alsatian under the influence of cocaine, it could be another dog if he was under the influence of something else.
I'm trying to make sense of what this comment could be referring to.
Are you arguing that he had the chihuahua fetish and just mistook the dog because he's on coke?
What the intersectionist could claim that?
I don't even know.
I'm just leaving that there.
The hell's wrong with you?
Anyway, moving on.
71% says, nothing better on Christmas Eve than a good old non-speciality banter story.
Yeah, um...
Don't worry, the segments we're putting up on Christmas and Boxing Day, we made sure to try and keep them light and fun.
John did say on the previous comment that he wouldn't have been as brave if he was sober.
I think that's what the previous comment was about.
Did you?
What?
Yeah.
That makes even less sense to me.
Whatever.
Well, I'm not dwelling on that crap.
Not necessarily you commenting on it, but just the story.
I hate this.
Captain Charlie the Beagle.
Oh, not that name.
Regarding the nonce, does this mean that if David Cameron wore a wig and identified as a woman, the whole pig-gate thing would have gone another way?
Yes.
Yes, it would.
Under intersectional logic, yeah.
He's an oppressed minority because he's got a fetish for pigs, allegedly.
Um...
You know what, David Cameron?
Please shitpost about this.
Please do it.
It will be the best spectacle we've ever seen.
I think he kind of did.
At least not him.
Some members of the Tory party were making jokes about it constantly.
What about him being identified as a woman as he was doing it?
No, no, identifying that he loves effing pigs.
And the joke is that he would identify as a...
Wait, no.
Yeah, no, he'd have to identify as a pig for it to be okay.
Oh, no.
Either way, he's a victim.
No, you could extend that to him.
Within intersectional logic, if he identified as a pig, then you could lay claim to it, to the pig consenting to the act.
I don't think they have any works that articulate this point.
What's he going to do?
Sell merch that just says the pig consented or something?
You know Charlie Brooker?
Yes.
You know the story about how he made some series in which some terrorists take over the country or something, and they make an ultimatum to the Prime Minister.
That's the first episode of Black Mirror.
Yeah, you'll probably be able to tell the story better than me, but he...
They issued an ultimatum being like, you have to F a pig on camera, or we're going to blow something up, or whatever.
Yeah, something like that.
And then the story came out of David Cameron doing that to get initiation into some club.
That was long before we even knew, by the way, about David Cameron's actual act.
Alleged.
Alleged act.
I don't know if it's been confirmed, which...
Oh god, can you imagine if that goes to court and they actually have to have that comment?
Whatever, I'm leaving this story.
I don't even like this conversation.
No, no.
It's Christmas.
Chris Wolfe says, I guarantee you the only aspect of the non-story that offends the left was the dead naming in the article.
Yes, which is why the Mirror made such an effort.
And I don't know why the Sun made such an effort.
Let's just...
What the hell's wrong with you people?
Just call the pig a pig.
Anyway.
M1ping, the dog nonce is more screwed up than the woodland critter Christmas.
Actually, yes.
I could, you know, I'm going to make a reference to the scaven, but that won't work because you don't know 40k or whatever.
But, you know, the Woodland Critter Christmas characters get more love from me than the nonce dogger.
Anyway, Kevin Fox, not only using the correct pronouns to avoid offence, but also changing the dog breed name to not upset the Germans in case they've changed their stance on die ideology.
No, I like the reference, but yeah, because it's not a German shepherd, it's an Alsatian, I swear.
I'm not a German.
Okay.
Alpha of the Bayless says, trans woman jailed for cocaine-fuelled sex with a dog is the least surprising headline of 2021.
There's actually a case that can be made for that.
No, I think the worst one is from the Mirror, which is like, yeah, woman.
Woman charged with raping dog cocaine-fuelled non-sorry.
Yeah, but I suppose you could...
That one is kind of...
If you actually use the real terms, it makes it more meta in a sense, I guess, but...
Carbohydrate Crusader says Christmas trans dog noncing.
What a bizarre new tradition of our degenerate society is creating.
Merry Christmas, fellas.
Enjoy it.
Thanks for all the good wishes.
And sorry, thanks for all the good wishes on the pregnancy news too.
I appreciate it.
Well, you know.
We've got to fix this world where you're bringing your kid up in some weird world.
That's for sure.
Raising a child in clown world is, of course, a very, very uphill task.
Good luck to you.
I'm sure you do a fine job.
Merry Christmas to you too.
Just keep it away from her.
Even I'm falling into it.
Him.
Him.
John.
Taffy Duck says, the dog nonce isn't a woman, it's a womixin.
Because you need to use the X. But again, I love how that instantly became transphobic, because it was like, well, why are you putting all the trans women with an X and women with an O? Why are we calling them trans women?
Come on, get the cogs turning.
Omar Awad said, if you affirm mental illnesses, you get more of it.
We are doing the equivalent of telling schizophrenic that the voices are real, and we need to treat them as if they're true.
These idiots are then surprised that when Napoleon tries to invade and conquer England in his underpants by throwing feces in the local Tesco's.
Is that a real story?
I mean, part of my head's thinking that is actually something that's probably happened in the news like 10 years ago.
Like some guy being like, I'm Napoleon.
It does sound like something that could have happened.
It sounds somewhat familiar.
I'm not reading that name.
If you can identify a dog, you can identify as a child.
So if an adult trans person rapes a child, kids will be kids.
Nothing to see here.
I had a similar conversation with the whistleblower from Facebook we spoke to, Ryan Hartwig, who's a great guy.
And we had a conversation about the fact that female nipples aren't allowed on Facebook, because he was a content moderator.
He was paid by Cognizant to do that job, and that's part of the guidelines.
And so if it's female nipples, you've got to delete the image, they're not allowed.
And if it's male nipples, then it's allowed because of social differences.
And then, well, you ran into the argument of, like, what if they identified as a woman or identified as a man?
Would the nipples be allowed?
Would the nipples not be allowed?
You know, what goes on there?
And, well, they ended up running the logic, and it ended up going into the section about talking about kids and what's allowed there as well.
Oh, God.
And, yeah, you could justify noncery through all of this, you know, and it's just like...
Easily, yeah.
When your ideology is constantly having debates about whether a noncery is okay, cut it off.
Perhaps you should bend it.
The whole thing.
The whole cake's got to go.
Even the plate and so on has to go.
Callum Dayton says the only thought I have had in my head about this segment is what dog's rights or canine rights have been violated or abusing the trans person.
They're not even considered really, are they?
I just don't like any of this conversation.
I wonder, considering how stupid the Wokists are, if this is the chink in the impeccable armour we can use to root out the cancer of their ideology.
Wokists, defenders, dog rights.
Stupid, but yeah.
They will.
I mean, they're already doing it with maps, so...
And they're already opting to defend male rapists like that who are being misgendered as opposed to the actual women who are the victims in rape cases.
And the TERFs are doing an excellent job of showing that the extraordinary rate of apparently female rapes has actually got nothing to do with actual women.
Moving on.
Baron Von Warhawk, this story about a trans freak reminds me of when Chris Chan raped an 80-year-old mother and people started discussing whether or not he should be classified as male or female.
This is just madness.
Yes, it is.
And if anyone is even discussing having that conversation in a situation like this, you're going to wonder what the hell is wrong with them.
So Tish Potato says, The more awareness about the crap that happens in prisons and the good that happens in prisons, especially the better.
It makes it worse that Dominic Raab, the current Justice Secretary, is in a position because of party politics and not because of competence in the field.
He's as blind to your average joke.
I would push back on the first part of that, because if they were exploiting intersectionism to actually pursue an end that they want, the intersectionists have had plenty of opportunities to actually stand up and say, this is not us.
Like, stop doing this.
Stop abusing kids.
Stop raping dogs.
I mean, no, seriously.
Since when have they ever done that?
You're right, but I just...
It's like the communists being like, could we stop genociding everyone, folks?
This isn't real communism.
They have had plenty of opportunities to distance themselves from this and to explain how this is not an extension of their ideology, but they haven't, and they haven't because, I'm sorry, it is.
There are no limits in the intersection or the genderqueer worldview as to what can be an object of attraction.
The second that the majority of people who support this realise that, we can supersede it.
Yes.
I think the chink in the armor is definitely a nonce one, if not the dog bugling as well.
Just wanted to mention on his point about there's a lot of prisons that are outside, out of mind, all of that.
Definitely true.
I remember we did cover a story a while back, just the state of women's prisons in general.
there was a lady who was pregnant in prison current in World War 4 and she got into labour no one came to her prison cell she ended up giving birth to the kid in the prison cell on her own no out of state no help whatsoever the kid came out she had to cut the umbilical cord with her teeth oh my god Oh my god.
Prisons are...
Really in need of reform, and moving rapists into the women's wands isn't one of them.
No.
My God, that is grim.
Anyway, we're going to move on to The Snowflake Is Gone.
Canham Dayton says, It's quite strange for me to encounter or see footage of youngest being part of the Leavers and pro-Brexit.
It's quite sad to know Britain has its own Joe Biden, i.e.
John Fake Snow.
Yeah, well at least he's retiring now.
And at least, well, he never actually assumed serious political power.
And, well, there have actually been arguments, and I think I might actually have heard this from apparent insiders of Channel 4 themselves, that he was actually among the least bad Jon Snow of the presenters.
I mean, yeah, I mean, take the Asian chap I mentioned.
He was just sitting back being like, hmm, yes, maybe Charlie Hebdo did have it coming.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Mainstream TV. Channel 4.
Not channel like 600.
Yeah.
Four.
But no, that was very much a red pill moment for Jon Snow, that debate.
Lord Narva says, I remembered a clip of Jon complaining that he'd never seen so many Hugh White people.
White.
Yes.
Jon, I don't know how to tell you this, mate, but you are also a Hugh White person.
Yes, quite.
That's quite.
Quite.
I just emphasised the W on quite.
Yes, quite.
Yes.
But of course, he's the right type of white person, obviously.
Yes.
Right, so, moving on, Robert Longshort says, Why would white people being at a pro-Brexit process be a problem or racist when the majority of Europe is also white?
Also, if you look at MEPs, or just people in power in the EU, holy crap are they white.
And of course, not a surprise when you think about the fact that the majority of Europe is white, as mentioned, except it's so disproportionate that, you know, people always said, oh no, the Brexiteer is racist because not enough brown people, if that makes sense.
And it's just like, okay, well look at your MEPs and your Council of Europe and all that.
Yeah.
Nah.
Yeah.
Find the guy who fits into the main category except the Italians.
Which, uh...
Yeah.
I'm just messing with you.
Omar Awad says, In the same way Romanians claim old people stole the future from the young by voting to leave, Can't we also reverse that logic and note that the EU was stealing the future of Britain's young?
Yes, absolutely.
Doesn't matter which is true, however, Having a second vote would set a precedent.
That means you can keep voting until you get what you want.
Unlike what Remainers believe, if democracy is to work, the only correct result is the first one.
No regrets.
You made your choice and so did everyone else.
And I think the thing that frustrated me the most about the Remainers is that they would make the case for the people's vote on the grounds of why are you so scared of democracy?
Without...
As in that they would make that case repeatedly.
Yes, you could...
I mean...
You know what real democracy is?
Voting again and again until you get the result you want.
Yeah, pretty much.
The thing is, you can see why this was an effective political strategy, because when someone makes such a stupid point like that, where do you turn?
Did you ever see Sargon's debate with EU Supergirl?
No, I did not.
Oh, I saw EU Supergirl in Daily Politics, but not with Karl.
She's quite a nice lady in person, but, you know, the rest of it.
But she was wrong on this point.
And she did a little debate with Carl outside Parliament.
John, were you filming it?
Probably.
Yeah.
And Carl's just like, look, if you got the other result that we'd remain in you, you wouldn't want another referendum.
So you're only doing this because you want to subvert democracy.
And she just goes, yes.
That's my point.
Yeah, and?
If you can't get through at that point, just give up.
Yeah.
You can't preach democracy if you're not a Democrat.
End of story, really.
Student history says so many white people.
Yup.
Be gone.
And good riddance.
Again, happy retirements, Jon Snow.
Did you know that Snow is white?
Might have to change your name.
Yes.
So, let's go for the Democrat refugees.
So, Chad Koala says, I remember hearing how centuries ago, Native Americans fleeing areas devastated by diseases brought by Europeans would unwittingly bring those same diseases with them to other areas infecting the new native populations, and increasingly increasing the scope of the problem.
Could we soon see an analogous problem with the people fleeing woke coastal hellholes, carrying their ideas that they believe harmless, but are in fact the very cause of the problems they fled?
No, because I think that red state constituents are far more resilient than that.
It's just votes.
And I've met a few guys who know people who have neighbours who have moved in from New York or California especially.
And they even took up the advice and they went round and they had a word.
They'd just be like, why are you here?
Oh, you fled New York.
Oh, all the crime.
Oh, yeah, it's a shame about...
You know where that was, right?
And then they go through just, yeah, our people here don't tolerate that crap.
And that's why you vote red here.
You don't vote for the same morons that legalized robbery.
Couldn't get through, apparently.
Consistently.
I've heard about four or five stories now.
And brick wall.
Well, that is depressing.
I sincerely hope that is not the fate of the red states that these people have migrated to.
You know, brick will erode.
Get your water cannons out and keep hitting at the brick wall until it's gone.
Omar Awad says, fleeing...
Oh, wait, have I missed one?
You missed Justin.
Yes, I missed Justin.
So Justin said, this Democrat refugee crisis is almost like a plate of locusts from the Bible.
Disavow.
They flood an area and destroy it and then move on to another.
Yeah, I mean, this is the meme from South Park.
I don't know if you remember the episode.
I'm not familiar with it.
There's some, like, Hollywood coastal types who turn up in South Park, the little mountain town.
They're like, ooh, how quaint.
Oh, everything works.
How wonderful.
And then they set up, like, a film festival.
And then loads of people come in, and it becomes overpopulated, noisy, pollution, crime-widden, hellhole.
And then they're like, well, this place is crap.
Let's move on.
So, you know, it's an old, at least South Park, problem that people have noticed it.
Surprisingly based.
Omar Awad says, Fleeing Democrats sounds like a literal plague.
I'm not going to say those words because that's dehumanizing.
We won't do that.
I would put some kind of 10-year memorandum on the voting of new residents.
That's the AA proposal.
Why should transitory citizens be allowed to influence local elections if they don't have to stick around for the consequences?
Hell, I'd even say let the current residents vote on whether the new residents should have the right to vote there at all.
It's not a bad idea.
It's an idea.
Certainly...
On local elections, I can definitely see that because they're the ones fundamentally that do seem to matter the most.
I don't know if I mentioned to you, but there was a Johnny Harris.
Do you know who Johnny Harris is?
He's a guy who used to work at Vox.
He made the Borders series.
If you ever watched the Hong Kong series, they did.
Very popular.
He's the guy behind that.
And I watch him.
He's like a center-left Democrat.
He's not too crazy.
And he did a video with the New York Times recently in which they look to blue states where the council's blue, the mayor's blue, the state senators are blue, the state constituents are blue, the presidential election results is always blue.
Blue as you can be.
What do they do on a local level when it actually affects them?
So on issues such as affordable housing, he looked at some examples.
In the bluest places, whenever it was proposed that we build a huge high-rise because it's affordable housing, a bunch of flats with people, every single time the local Democrats were like, nope, they'd always be the most conservative when an issue directly affected them in their local community.
Oh, funny that.
Yeah, even the elected representatives.
That's interesting.
Captain Charlie the Beagle says, And surprise, surprise, when all these Dems move to a red state, they vote in Dems, which then turn the states destroying them, that they've moved to, thus forcing out Republicans into other states and starting the cycle all over again.
Probably Dems never learning.
Yeah, I'm still amazed to learn that California used to be a red state back in the day.
Yeah, it's hard to imagine now.
Duffy B says, these Democrats are storming across state borders in their little rubber dinghies.
The worst part is the Democrat...
No.
Not making those comparisons.
I'm not doing that here.
Sorry, my throat's getting rather dry.
Alex Ogle says, blue voters moving to red states haven't failed to learn their lesson.
They don't know there is a lesson to be learnt.
Quite true.
That's why friends I've spoken to have spoken to brick walls.
because they don't get it they move in as part of a first wave to escape the failure and see the new place that works well they do not associate their attitudes with the failure so they impose them slowly and steadily and everything continues to work then a wave of people come in to take advantage of the new rules uh these are the ones who that ruin the locale the The original Blues then see the failure associated with the new arrivals, not their rules, and seek to move on and escape them.
This leaves behind people with strong ideas to clean up the mess, which eventually causes the internal troublemakers to move on and follow the Vanguard Blues.
We did cover a story like this once in a neighborhood.
I can't quite remember.
I think it was outside Chicago, where it was hugely, I think it was a Jewish community, or at least there were a large amount of Jews.
And the community worked well on all this, and the guy writing the article was a black guy who moved there.
And he just noticed small things, like if you left your car at a place you weren't meant to, someone would come out and be like, move your car.
Can't leave it there.
You're blocking me in or whatever.
And then more and more people started moving in from outside, and slowly and slowly and slowly it hit a tipping point where people wouldn't come out and tell you off for something you'd done wrong, and then it had turned into a ghetto neighbourhood within 10 years.
The fabric just completely dissolved.
Yeah, it wasn't just the people moving out.
It was that crisis moment where it hit peak, and no one made an effort.
Well, it seems like an obvious solution.
I'm not sure if some states apply this or not, but surely...
What would solve this problem is if you actually had a very conservative time limit on how long you have to live in a place before you can have any say on its affairs.
Because at least then, for let's just say five years, you've actually got some objective proof of you being attached to the community that accommodates you.
And so you're not going to be acting on showing the rationalistic principles that Made you decide to go to a new place, but you actually have some ties to the sentiment of that culture.
That would stop this influx of, shall we say, blue citizens from being an existential threat to the red states, because by the time they have the right to vote, they will probably be more conservative by disposition.
We have this in minor villages within the UK. I've spoken about it before.
I still haven't found the bloody clip.
I really want to.
In which there's this local community and there's one pub and there was a duck in it that was drinking beer and it's just funny and cute and everything there works.
Wholesome.
Yeah, very wholesome.
But the guy visiting was staying in the hotel that has two rooms.
That's it.
That's all the capacity to have.
And if you want to buy a house there, the person who owns the house, let's say you live there, and you want to sell the house and move somewhere else, you can only sell it to other residents of the village or their kids.
I think that's a great idea.
Which, you know, it's a restriction on the market and all that, but it really keeps the place.
This is why protectionism has a place in conservatism.
I think as a last resort, you had to have it on the market for five years or something.
Maybe you could sell it to an outsider after other people have agreed that an outsider can move in.
People are not interchangeable products.
I would take a leaf out of that book, happily.
Anyway, so we'll just finish off Alex Ogle's comment in which he says, it is not the vanguard blue voters, but, you know, the new ones who turn up.
Socialist ideas have a half chance of working if they are imposed with an attitude of conservatism.
This is the point made by Igor Sharofich in his book The Socialist Phenomenon.
And we can see some of that, as I mentioned, in the blue states.
Yeah, economic socialism, yes, not the liberal side so much.
Well, you see these heavily blue areas that are leaning more left and left on these things.
But when it comes to their locale, they're incredibly conservative, and that keeps property prices high.
Shaker Silver says, California is building a wall to stop people.
The wall is an exit tax on the wealth that extends back 10 years.
Yet their crazy policies aren't actually stopping people of means.
It's just stopping poorer dependents.
Yeah, I did hear about that.
I have no idea how that's constitutional.
Whatever they do there, surely that's going to get overturned.
It's got to.
Let's move on to some of the general comments for the last couple of minutes.
Paulie P says, Thank you.
That's very wholesome.
And also Diana saying you both look great.
Merry Christmas, guys.
Thank you.
A lot of them Merry Christmases in there.
So I think we'll probably end that on that because I do appreciate them all, but I feel like we're repeating ourselves.
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