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	Hello and welcome to the podcast The Lotus Eaters for the 17th of December 2021.
	I I'm joined by Harry.
	Hello.
	And today we're going to be talking about why not dating women over 35 is ageism, according to one dating expert, as she calls herself.
	The schools are grooming your kids, because they are.
	Big surprise.
	Yep.
	And also, gulags are good, actually.
	I thought I'd throw in a spicy title to make people mad, but they are actually good for the local community.
	And that's a hot take, but...
	Unironically, though, like, we all look into the data.
	Yeah.
	I think it was Leo actually mentioned it first, but I found the article.
	I'm like, all right, yeah, let's make a segment out of that.
	That'll be fun.
	Nice.
	Anyway, so some things to mention first on the website.
	So the first thing here being what Brexit was really about.
	This is a video from Carl in which he is pointing out what Brexit wasn't about, which is economics, and instead what it was about, which is about sovereignty and independence and all the rest of it.
	So go and check that out.
	The next thing to mention is a republish of an old article, What Happened in the Chaos in South Africa, from Josh.
	And we have a republished version here because, of course, we've added the audio track there for Silver and Gold Team members to go and check out and listen to in case you didn't read it the first time or hate reading, as I always say.
	I sympathize.
	Anyway.
	And the last thing to mention is something I'm quite proud of, which I think is going up after the podcast, which is 3pm local time.
	Germany Must Perish, which was the second day speech of the live event I did.
	A strong statement.
	Yeah, the first day of speech, the Feminist Immigration Policy, will be published whenever it's finished editing, but the second one's done.
	And we can take a look at the book, Germany Must Perish.
	So it's also a book club, which is good fun, which is essentially, I won't ruin it, but a man has a permanent police plan for Germany, and the New York Times...
	A particular man?
	Yes, Theodore Kaufman.
	And the New York Times even signed on and said, yeah, okay, that's a great idea.
	Sounds great.
	What could go wrong?
	Yes, the quote-unquote final solution for the Germans...
	Right, anyway, moving on.
	Oh, good.
	Oh, spicy.
	And ironically, he does actually use that phrase in his book, and the book's written in 41.
	Oh, okay.
	Go watch that.
	That's going to be good fun.
	Anyway, let's get into the dating advice.
	So, not wanting to date women over 35 is ageism, according to one dating expert or dating advice giver.
	This is a lady called Jana Hocking, I presume that's how you pronounce it, on an Australian website here.
	So she publishes loads of articles that are just like, you know, I went on this date and this was bad because of this.
	Or, this is my dating advice for this, that and the other.
	So, a public figure who spends a lot of time doing this sort of thing.
	Oh, this looks like great dating advice.
	Sure sign, you're about to be dumped.
	Yeah, so...
	If you can recognise the telltale signs, you may have been dumped once too often.
	Yeah, but anyway, she does a lot of this kind of stuff.
	As you can see, seven odd pages of things like that there.
	I'm going to assume that she's single.
	She is.
	What a shock.
	According to herself.
	Always take dating advice from single people.
	And here's the thing.
	Like, if she wants to live her life how she wants it, whatever.
	But she has some opinions, and I thought those opinions were interesting.
	Of course, this kind of tags on with Dalism in a weird way, but then everything does in this regard.
	Anyway, so moving on, if we go to the next one, there was a point in here in one of her articles in which she says the half-truth about why I keep dating duds.
	And she says in here, I've always appreciated a no-nonsense, give-it-to-me-straight kind of person.
	Nothing snaps me out of my lovely comfort zone, often referred to as denial, quite like some rock-solid hard truths.
	So, I mean, setting herself up...
	Is that all the rock-solid hard stuff she's after?
	Dad jokes.
	We're getting into dadism.
	Yeah, so there we are.
	Okay, dadism does need dad jokes, I suppose.
	There you go.
	But the point there being that she's looking for hard truths, and she set herself up, obviously, for people telling her some.
	So let's move to the next one, in which she mentions her situation in life.
	And, um, it's a little bit tragic.
	And, you know, how can you not sympathize with her?
	And she says in here, uh, talking about why there are bad reasons to get a divorce.
	Now listen, I'm not gonna lie.
	I got a bit suki, uh, there for a while about being stuck in lockdown as a singleton who lives on her own.
	Yep, waking up to an empty bed with a long stretch of day.
	Got real groundhog day there for a second.
	So she's a single person.
	Went through lockdown as a singleton in her mid-30s, thereabouts, I believe she ends up saying.
	It is difficult for me to not feel some pity at a statement like that.
	But, I mean, who hasn't been single and been upset?
	No, it's true.
	Who can't sympathise?
	Anyway, so if we move on to the next one, this is the main article, and this is an opinion which I think is just nonsense.
	So she says in here, the title being, Jenna Hocking on why men won't date women over 35.
	And she ends up basically boiling it down to, it's ageism.
	Pretty sure there's more reasons than that.
	But also, even if it is, I mean, sort of Chad, yes.
	Everyone has their age groups they're happy to date in, and age groups they're not happy to date in.
	And that's their choice.
	They can do what they want.
	I mean, this is just compartmentalizing particular things.
	It's like, well, women, you could easily have a man going, like, why won't women date really ugly fat guys?
	This is fatphobic.
	Yes, I mean, the fat positivity movement is exactly that.
	Yeah, you can always attach a label to these things.
	But anyway, so let's move into this.
	What does she have to say?
	I remember exactly where I was when I had my first, oh, that's what they mean when they say over the hill moment.
	It was New Year's Eve, and I was in Byron Bay on a girl's trip.
	A male friend of mine had spotted one of my friends in an Instagram story and asked me to set him up with her.
	I checked if she was interested and sadly for this Cupid it was a no.
	I tried to soften the blow and said, "What's all good cupids say in a crisis?
	Sorry, she's just started seeing someone." So she lied and said, "No, no, she's seeing someone else." Okay.
	And she says, now let me give you some background here.
	She's 37.
	He's 45.
	When I responded with a, excuse me, what?
	He replied, like I said, she's too old.
	I want kids one day.
	And that's kind of fair.
	It's a biological reality, of course, that she has run into the empty egg carton memes, as Stefan Molyneux would always put them.
	And I suppose obligatory here.
	You haven't got the link, but if we can load up the link here, which is a British fertility graph here, John.
	So, if we can load up the link, that's not there.
	Anyway, but it's just the fact that he's 45, okay?
	He's much older than her, obviously.
	But, of course, fertility is not something that lasts forever.
	It's something that comes up a lot as well.
	Men, as they get older, generally they're able to accumulate more capital, and they get a better place in the hierarchy, therefore they have a better pick of people that they could potentially date.
	But in case someone has joined who doesn't know what the empty egg carton meme is, I mean, here's a graphic version of it, let's say.
	So as you can see there, fertility between men and women.
	Men lasting long, long time, like over 50, still going.
	Women's going to about, what is it, 30, and then it's going down.
	It's still striking.
	Very striking.
	But then, you know, it's still possible.
	I'm not saying it's impossible, of course, but getting to 40 and then menopause happens.
	Yeah, I mean...
	Reality.
	For contrast, there are men who, like, you're not going to know anybody, but...
	I've forgotten his name, the guitarist.
	One of the guitarists of the Rolling Stones, he ended up having kids, like, more kids when he was, like, in his 60s because he got with a very young woman, which is kind of what you expect rock stars to do, right?
	But he's in his mid-60s and he's still able to pump them out, you know?
	But we've mentioned this many a time, of course, that this is a biologic reality, but again, it is strange to always see people so surprised by this sort of reality.
	You would have thought most people would have been shown it.
	I mean, it's not like people aren't denying reality enough as it is at the moment.
	But anyway, if we can go backwards to our article here, because she continues after she got extremely mad that he said this.
	Now imagine one of those cartoon characters that's so furious that smoke literally starts coming out of their ears.
	Yeah, well, it's safe to say that was me.
	I was like, why are you so mad?
	Like, it's a pretty simple argument.
	He's 45.
	You know, girls his age are getting menopause, so why he wants to date younger is so he can have a kid.
	Do we know how old she is?
	I don't think she's so specifically, but I believe she's in her 30s.
	Because if she's over 35, then I can imagine that it would hit home for her.
	That might be why she got so angry.
	I believe this is what spurred it.
	Anyway, she continues, I text back furiously that one, she had frozen her eggs years ago, so joke's on him.
	Sadly, joke is also on her.
	Apparently that's not as perfect as people thought it was.
	Yeah, so a little bit unreliable.
	And two, she's not actually seeing someone else.
	She just thinks you're a flog.
	And she doesn't write what the dude's response was.
	But quite frankly, I imagine the dude being like, LaBelle, okay.
	Fair play.
	Okay, if she's not interested, whatever.
	But his point still stands that, well, okay, I wanted someone who was younger.
	And I was like, well, that's his choice.
	You can go for it.
	That's fine.
	Interesting that he would ask in the first place if that's the case, but...
	They didn't know the age.
	Oh, yeah, that's fair then.
	So anyway, she continues, Okay, so I may have been a little brutal, but seriously, not today, Satan.
	I was like...
	Where's that come from?
	He's not done anything unreasonable.
	He knows the biological reality, as most people should, and has assessed his dating prospects on that.
	I'm sure John will have some very many things to type in here as well as some advice.
	I gotta see him sniggering.
	Anyways, I had another experience recently when some bloke in the US came across one of my articles and shared it on his YouTube channel with his thousands of followers.
	Under the title, Jana Hocking Shows Why Women Are Shocked When They Hit The Wall.
	Yep.
	For 27 minutes, he discussed at length why someone my age has left it too late to find someone special and should basically settle for what I can get.
	No, that's not the message.
	If we can go to the next one, I actually found the video she's talking about.
	I watched most of it.
	And, um, no, that's not the argument.
	It's not that you should settle for what you can get.
	It's just, do you want kids?
	Because she seems to make it out that she doesn't want kids.
	And if that's her future, and she's chosen that, fine.
	Yeah, fair play.
	I'm all for people making their individual choices, just recognise when you're a certain length down the line, you know, there are going to be consequences.
	But it's also the difference, obviously, in veneration.
	So should you venerate that as a gold standard?
	Well, if everyone does that, then we don't have a society.
	So, you know, free choice.
	Go for it.
	But veneration, no.
	Because, well, if we do that...
	Well, people should be having kids.
	We don't have society.
	Anyway.
	But it's also just strange in here.
	So he's mostly talking about why he's surprised that she goes on so many dates and writes about them, about how they're all terrible as well, and then says she's a dating advice person.
	Why would you want to date this woman if she's just going to write you up about it afterwards?
	Yeah, I mean, as soon as you find out what she does for a living, it's going to be difficult.
	But also just the point of like, well, how do you keep going on so many dates and they all keep failing?
	And then you're standing there like, I'm the dating advice person.
	It's a bit strange.
	And then she's there pointing at all the men going, it's you who's the problem.
	It's like asking a Marxist for economic advice.
	It does come off odd.
	Just don't do it.
	But anyway, I mean, she has the experience, at least, of lots of dates.
	So she has advice on that, let's say.
	Anyway, she also makes the...
	There's a comment underneath here which I found something I wanted to comment on, which is someone...
	I think it was the top-rated comment.
	Society will shame 25-year-old men for not having his life-slash-care together, but a near-40-year-old woman acting like this is okay.
	And I don't agree, to be honest.
	I don't think it's society that's allowing this to be okay or saying that women shouldn't have their life in order.
	I think most people in day-to-day life actually do think about these things.
	And it's the media who have a different perspective and think that, well, there should be a double standard.
	Anyway, so if we go back to the article, she continues.
	I was then inundated by his followers on my Instagram account, with messages telling me I'm washed up, I'm too old, a waste of space, I'll be single forever, and worse, much worse.
	It's like, yeah, okay, that's horrible.
	I don't know what kind of loser does that.
	It's just like, how do you not have sympathy for this woman?
	Even in that guy's video, I know he's a bit ripping on her.
	Whether or not it comes from a delusional mindset, I just can't help but feel bad.
	Hmm.
	You know, she's trying to make her best of life as well, and she's learning as she goes, and she learns in this article, as you can see.
	So, she continues, Now, bless their cotton socks, they really helped with my page engagement for a week.
	But, of course, not one of them used their real name and had their real picture on their profiles.
	For blokes with such strong opinions, they sure do like to hide behind fake Instagram accounts.
	And to be honest, kind of yeah.
	Yeah, fair play.
	I get online anonymity for political reasons because, of course, people can lose their jobs or all the rest of it, but just, like, talk S online.
	Who cares?
	I think we can all acknowledge there's a lot of pathetic men out there, you know?
	Yeah, and they hear the message and get given the message of, sort yourself out.
	Absolutely.
	And the same is also true of everyone else.
	They should be able to sort themselves out.
	And yeah, sending hateful messages to someone because they're having a bad life and writing about how they're having a bad life.
	I don't know why that's your response to that, but okay.
	Anyway, I'd like to say that I had a little lull and moved on, but upon reflection, I think I may have taken it to heart.
	Over the next month, I lost interest in dating apps, couldn't really muster up the courage to go on a date, and in a rather dark moment, scheduled an extra dose of Botox.
	Extra dose?
	So you already have one.
	Okay.
	But also, that doesn't seem like a solution.
	I mean, surely the solution is becoming more comfortable with your life and living as you are, and therefore finding someone who can accept you as you are.
	Yeah.
	Doing fakeness, but whatever.
	Anyway, yeah, not a smart move.
	I had an awful realisation that many men have a cut-off age of 35 years old on dating apps, despite their own age being significantly older.
	You only discovered this now?
	Yes.
	We've been over this before, but I do find it amazing that Carla's right.
	There are a lot of people who don't know the empty egg carton meme, apparently.
	And she found out.
	So, when my lovely mentor and maths expert Mel Schilling came on the Kind of Sorted Dating podcast this week, I had a bit of a souk about my current dilemma, and she is having none of it.
	Yep, she really fired me up and snapped me out of my pity party for one.
	"Block and delete!" she screamed.
	"That's not all blokes, Jenna.
	Do you really feel or care about what those ageists think?
	There is no room in our lives for those outdated attitudes." Of ageism.
	Of wanting to have children.
	I mean, number one, ageist, as if it's some kind of, you know, un...
	you know...
	Disgusting bigotry to decide that you have certain age range.
	The thing is, there are guys out there, I would consider them a little bit weird, personally, but there are guys out there, like the guy who played Kick-Ass in the film, his wife is almost 20 years older than him.
	There are people out there who are going to be happy to go ahead with that.
	I think it's Macron who married his teacher or something like that.
	Oh yeah, Macron's got an older wife as well, hasn't he?
	Yeah, that sort of stuff comes across a little weird to me, but there is a very small percentage of men who are more than happy to get with older women.
	Yeah, sure, but also just around that age.
	It's what you're looking for, obviously.
	Yeah, obviously.
	And her friend was looking for kids, so he was looking for fertile age range.
	And yeah, anyway.
	There's also just the block and delete strategy, which, to be honest, probably is a good strategy in her position, because she's looking for that group of men that will date her and be happy.
	And if it is bringing her down, then it's not a good thing for her day-to-day life.
	Sure, and she's free to do it.
	But also, you can't really block reality, which is a lot of the point.
	Like, she has learnt the point, thankfully, as she points out that, well, okay, people have an age limit, let's say, especially when it comes to female dating.
	So she says, quote, Well, yeah.
	They're not dating you.
	I mean, this is why I've always had a weird relationship with the idea of cyberbullying.
	I'm like, you're not my wife, so what do I care?
	You know, someone calls you a name, it's just like...
	I only care if you're my wife.
	Yeah, like I made a video recently about Serbian war music, and of course there's a lot of war crimes in there, and them being proud of the war crimes.
	So there were a lot of Serbians who were upset that I said that that took place.
	Of course, everyone else also made those kinds of songs, but it was investigation.
	Serbian music.
	So there are loads of Serbians who are just like, how dare you say this about Serbia?
	Why not Croatia?
	I'm like, because I'm talking about Croatia.
	But also, I don't care.
	It's a random guy.
	Ah, if I'm not sleeping, why should I bother?
	I mean, kind of.
	They're not part of my family.
	They're not part of my friends group.
	Who cares?
	Like, just some guy halfway across the world.
	And that's why I find it weird her being so upset about the Instagram messages.
	It's like, who cares what those losers think?
	But right.
	Anyway.
	So, and it turns out I'm not the only one having these feelings.
	New research commissioned by eHarmony found that over 35s are holding back more than Gen C, with 69% mistakenly believing they're too old for love.
	Well, no, that's not the debate.
	No one's too old for love.
	The debate is whether you're too old for kids.
	That's why the age limit is 35.
	I'm sure as you carry on, if you keep looking in the right places, you'll find someone eventually.
	If you're looking for love, you can look at that when you're 90.
	There's nothing stopping you there.
	But the point is more about kids, of course, and that is why the female one is much lower than the male one, because, well, differences in fertility.
	So, what was her advice?
	If you are in a space where you are saying to yourself, I'm actually ready for something serious, and I'm looking for someone at the same point, the first thing is to do and block everyone whose values don't align with yours.
	Which, I mean...
	Probably.
	I mean, if you're speedrunning to try and find someone, I guess that's one strategy for doing it.
	They're taking up energy that could be used on someone else who deserves it.
	Okay, sure.
	But it does very much remind me of the I've never kissed a Tory people.
	Yeah, this is starting to read more like Cope.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, let the blokes out there have their midlife crises, with their terrible new haircuts, tragic sports cars, oogling at young women, and let's find ourselves someone with a little more maturity, with a personality that matches ours and core values that run deeper than appearance.
	I was like, okay, I do have to wonder for a minute, what is the female midlife crisis?
	Whatever this woman's going through.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	I mean, I'm sorry to be rude, but yes, that is exactly it.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Which is, you know, worrying about, do I have the kids and the family sorted out?
	Which is, you know, of course unfair as well, but biology is unfair.
	So, that's part of life.
	So, whatever.
	So she lends with, now, wouldn't that be a lovely relationship to find yourself in?
	Let's aim higher, ladies, and don't let a few duds get you down.
	Note to self.
	Sure.
	I mean, for her, yeah, sure.
	She should focus on the people who are going to make her happy.
	Yeah, this is all relatively good advice, to be fair.
	You just need to apply it to yourself when you are younger than whatever age this woman appears to be.
	I also just found it very interesting that she's like, yeah, people who don't want to do that are ageists, as if it's some kind of racial bigotry or something.
	In the same range, it's undue bigotry.
	No, it's biological reality.
	I also...
	John's written something, as he usually does in these segments.
	Aim higher, price yourself out of the market.
	That is...
	Yeah, don't overvalue yourself, to be fair.
	That is one way of looking at it.
	Anyway, but this also combines with a clip I found from Jordan Peterson on New Zealand TV. And this is just a really interesting clip, and I just wanted to play it because, wow, it's been sitting on my list of links of things I can make a segment about.
	And so I thought, why not now?
	So anyway, let's play the clip.
	We have a prime minister who is in her late thirties.
	She's just had her first baby and she's running the country in her first term.
	Do you think that she comes up against different pressures?
	Of course.
	It's very difficult for women who have young children to balance career with a young family because they're basically guilty no matter what they do.
	If they're guilty when they're working because they're not with their children, and they're guilty with their children when they're not working.
	And so that's a very complicated thing to arrange.
	And it's not surprising because, of course, one of the most complicated things that people have to do is to have children because they take a lot of time and a lot of energy.
	A lot of commitment, and they particularly need a tremendous amount of attention in the first three or four years, and so getting that balance right is hard.
	And women are also often shocked, especially the ones that are more professionally oriented, with just exactly how much they end up liking their children, loving their children, you know, because Most young women are taught badly that the most important thing that they'll do in their life is their career.
	And that's simply not true.
	It's not true for most people and certainly not true for most women.
	I certainly wasn't taught that myself.
	I feel like I'm doing quite well in my career, but I still have pressures.
	People who are saying, you know, when are you actually going to succeed properly by having a baby?
	I kind of find that slightly offensive.
	I'm 38.
	I feel like I've got through my early 30s without, almost luckily, when I look at what my friends have to deal with with their children, I almost feel a little bit blessed.
	What do you say to that?
	Well, I would say that it starts to get pretty lonesome in life after 45 if you don't have a family, you know, and so it's easy to consider the utility of an intense career and like you have a very high quality career too, you know, that's something that marks you out from Maybe from, let's say, more typical people.
	And perhaps that's worth more of a sacrifice.
	But, you know, you're going to be, you're going to live till you're 90 in all likelihood.
	And it's not easy to consider your life across its entire span.
	And there's something to be said for...
	Developing a very close-knit, intimate community around you if you can manage it.
	You have children and you have grandchildren.
	To me, what I've experienced in my life, although I've had a very productive career and a very interesting career, it's definitely been the case for me that my family has been more and more important to me as I've got older.
	And I don't think that that's an uncommon experience.
	I mean, you've got to appreciate how polite Jordan is.
	Yeah.
	If nothing else.
	I mean, she's exactly the sort of woman that he was just referring to in that statement as well.
	But it's, you know, if she wants to not have kids, if that's not fair, fine.
	But it does get lonely, as he says.
	And there's also...
	After 45, you've got a lot of life left.
	It's not just lonely, it's like, what are you leaving behind?
	What meaning have you contributed to the world?
	Sure, but even if you don't care about any of that, It's just a point for yourself.
	I mean, what really matters to you in your life?
	And if you sit back at home one evening and think about, you know, what have I done with my life?
	You don't think about all the hours you put in at work.
	No, you think about the relationships that you've formed and some of the most important relationships many people have are with their family and their children.
	Hmm.
	It's exactly that.
	Anyway, so I thought that was very interesting.
	There was also a point in there, which I don't really know what to do with, but I have the notice on it, which is that she says, well, here we have a prime minister who's a woman, she's a working mother, and therefore Jordan points out, well, yeah, it's a tough situation to be in because you're guilty when you're working because you're not spending time with the kid, and you're guilty when you're with the kid because you're not working.
	Why do we never have that thought about men?
	Well, because traditionally speaking, the role of the man is to work and provide.
	Yeah, I mean, as the Eton professor put it, what was it?
	Protect, provide, and procreate.
	We've already done the procreation, so you've got the protecting and providing to do.
	Yeah, that's the rest of your work that you need to get up to, son.
	Yes, but also something we don't usually think about.
	Not to say that men should work all their lives either.
	Kids are important too.
	I do think there should be less of a stigma put up nowadays.
	I mean, obviously, this is wishful thinking on my part.
	Less of a stigma on women not working and just raising the kids if that's what they want to do, because I can't imagine anything that's more fulfilling.
	I don't see that stigma in society.
	I generally just see it in the media.
	It's the kind of people who work in the media.
	The people in our generation, though, are the ones who are getting all of this media and taking it on board and pushing it later and later in their lives.
	That's how you end up with that kind of woman.
	I thought I'd just end this segment on an email from a viewer who I've interacted with before.
	He sent me an email when we were talking about fertility last time.
	I have to share it because it's powerful.
	He says, your recent episode about Cambridge University raising awareness about women's fertility prompted me to catch up with you.
	I am tens of thousands in the hole, and the IVF industry is predatory.
	The NHS can go F itself, it hasn't lifted a finger to help, and is basically sitting out the clock on this point.
	I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy.
	My heart weeps for all the young couples, especially women, being foolish and clueless enough to leave things too late.
	Yeah.
	Not great.
	I hope you're doing well, by the way, and I sent you an email.
	We'll meet up for a beer and a meal.
	Yeah.
	I do all just also want to put a point on this, that we've mentioned the men before, but that whole point of provide, protect, procreate, I think one of the other problems is that there is kind of a dearth of men around our age, and carrying on into, as we'll all get older, who are taking on those roles, and women are noticing that.
	And it's all a symptom of the same thing.
	It's certainly true that men and women can become more men and more women.
	Yes.
	Anyway, thought I'd end up there.
	Alright then, let's move on.
	So, the schools are grooming your kids.
	Sorry, just gotta put it out there.
	Burst the bubble.
	Yeah, burst the bubble there, just get the needle and pop it right there.
	Yeah, it's not looking good, to be perfectly honest, especially if you're living in California, although, why are you living in California?
	So here we've got David Atherton posting an Epoch Times article on Twitter talking about in Salinas, California, an LGBT school group was caught grooming children to come out as trans.
	The teachers ordered her mother, Jessica Conan, to use male pronouns on her 12-year-old daughter, and when confronted, the teachers called child services on her.
	Now this is part of a larger overall story which has come out to kind of a boiling point last night when there was a parent-teacher conference.
	With, obviously, the parents of all these children and the teachers who are doing this to them.
	But just to get a little bit of the lead up first, we've got this information.
	So if we go on, we've got Epoch Times.
	Never heard of them before, but they've got some good information on all this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's good articles, so check them out.
	Talking about the leaked audio from a California Teachers Union Association meeting.
	Revealed how California teachers recruit kids into LGBTQ clubs.
	The two teachers in question, just because I don't think their names are mentioned in here, or at least in the stuff that I've got excerpts from, are Laurie Caldera and Kelly Baracki, just to know that for when the clips show later.
	So, a leaked audio recording reveals two teachers at a recent California Teachers Association conference mocking parents over their concerns about homosexual and transgender indoctrination at schools, says a source who attended the event in Palm Springs, California.
	So I can only assume this source is another teacher, so it is good to see that there are teachers who are in the middle of this and going, hold up, this is nonsense, this is dangerous, we need to get the word out there.
	Salute in the chat.
	Yes, God bless you to whoever leaked all of this.
	The recording obtained by the Epoch Times captured two 7th grade teachers employed by Buena Vista Middle School in Salinas, California, telling other teachers how to recruit students into these clubs, known as Gay Straight Alliance Clubs at school.
	It was horrifying to listen to not just one teacher, but really all of the teachers, I mean, that title just says it all, really, doesn't it?
	isn't it?
	I mean, it literally says it all because it just keeps going.
	I think it was the Biden admin who recently said that, what was it, parents are to be considered...
	Terrorists?
	...stakeholders?
	No, no, no, not just the terrorist thing, but also just stakeholders in their child's education.
	So it's just like, you're just part of the pie.
	You're not the main part either.
	You're not even a majority.
	You're just part of it.
	No, your children are state property now.
	And that is the way that these sorts of teachers are approaching it.
	And they're approaching it not just from the perspective of state property, they're approaching it from the perspective of my property.
	These aren't your kids now, these are my kids and I get to raise them how I see fit.
	Yeah, I know, right?
	Well, there's more on that, just how explicitly it lines up with grooming techniques in a little bit.
	But yeah, the CTA has hosted similar sexual orientation and gender identity professional development training for at least two years.
	According to an event notice posted on the UTLA website, which asks teachers, And now, middle school, from what I'm aware, starts when these kids are about 11 or 12, because obviously it's different over in America.
	What does exploring these kinds of sexual themes mean for an 11-year-old?
	It just sounds wrong to me, and I think most people as well.
	Teachers at the conference also suggested that parents who refuse to call their child by pronouns of the child's choosing should be arrested and charged with child abuse.
	The two teachers from Buena Vista led a workshop called How We Run a GSA in Conservative Communities.
	So all this is being set up specifically to subvert the wishes of the parents.
	That's a direct attack.
	It's like, how do we operate this in a conservative zone?
	Yeah, how do we turn their children into people they will hate?
	We've mentioned Peterson, that's the exact opposite of his advice.
	The steel man would be, of course, that, oh, well, we're just trying to create a space in which gay people in, let's say, like, Westboro Baptist Church neighbourhoods can be alright.
	And I'm just like, yeah, I don't trust that that's the case.
	Well, that's the thing.
	I've got a note saying they are trying to treat it like it's still, like, 70s and 80s conservative parents who have still got the gay panic going on.
	But no, we're in 2021.
	People don't really care about being gay as much.
	There was an interview with Trey Parker about South Park recently I listened to, and it hits that point perfectly.
	Oh, yeah.
	He mentions, okay, people have wondered why is South Park not cancelled when we're saying all this stuff about, you know, obviously trans women are biologically men, or all the rest of it.
	And he's like, dude, we thought this was going to happen years ago when we made, like, Stan's dog gay.
	Like, that used to be the taboo, and these days, no.
	It is instead pointing out that there are different kinds of groomers in the room.
	Yeah, the taboos have changed.
	People don't really care if you're gay anymore.
	It's more just they recognize and can see from experience, and the sort of stuff we're going to go on to, that this is being pushed onto their kids when it's not rising up naturally.
	The kids aren't just turning to them and going, I'm gay.
	They're turning to them and going, well, my teacher told me that I have these particular preferences, so therefore I'm a boy now.
	You know, it's that sort of stuff going on.
	"They described obstacles they faced as activist teachers, very specifically activist teachers, in concealing the activities of these clubs from parents.
	In the audio clip, one teacher advised other teachers who led these groups to maintain an air of plausible deniability so they can play dumb if they're questioned by parents." And this just sounds like they've taken it straight from the groomer handbook, doesn't Because we are not official, we have no club rosters.
	We keep no records, said the teacher, who is an LGBTQ club leader.
	In fact, we sometimes don't really want to keep records because if parents get upset that their kids are coming, we're like, yeah, I don't know.
	Maybe they came.
	You know, we would never want the kids to get in trouble for attending if their parents are upset.
	This just sounds like they know what they're doing is wrong, to a certain degree, or at least they know that it's against the parents' wishes and they are trying to subvert it.
	She avoided naming her club a GSA. Instead, she called it an equity club and later changed the name to a UBU club, further going ahead to try and hide what they're actually doing.
	Teachers bragged about spying on students' online searches and activity as well as eavesdropping on their conversations to identify and recruit 6th grade students into these Stasi?
	Yeah, I know, right?
	We totally stalked what they were doing on Google, one of the teachers said.
	I'm pretty sure it's illegal for Google to do that, isn't it?
	Like, to kids.
	Like, I remember Facebook getting in trouble because they were trying to advertise to below, what was it, 13?
	Something like that.
	Well, this originally, I'll go on to that in a sec, but this originally came out through Abigail Schreier, who's the woman who wrote Irreversible Damage, which was a big controversial book earlier this year, talking about the trans social contagion, I think is probably the best term for it.
	And I think what they were saying was that it's during IT classes, when they have access to see what the kids are doing while they're on IT to make sure they're doing their work, they'll actually just keep an eye on what they're Googling to see if they Google anything that's even remotely related to the alphabet soup people.
	So, very, very immoral.
	After information about the leaked audio was made public this week, Superintendent Tarallo, S-U-S-D, President McDool and Kate Parag...
	Sorry, they've all got American names...
	Kate Pagaran, the principal at Buena Vista Middle School, issued a letter on November 19th addressed to the SUSD community that the UBU club had been suspended.
	Thank God.
	SUSD states clearly teachers are prohibited from monitoring students' online activity for any non-academic purpose.
	Now, I understand at least they've said something about it and done something about it, but you need to fire these people.
	You absolutely need to fire these people who are spying on kids and trying to subvert them against their parents' wishes.
	This is absolutely disgusting behaviour and should not be acceptable in any school district anywhere.
	Yeah, as I said, if we move along, Abigail Shryo is the one who talked about this originally.
	She got the information sent through to her, posted this big article on Substack.
	What she means with the social contagion of the trans stuff is how it's becoming more and more noticeable.
	Like, you'll get a group of friends in a school, one of them will come out as trans, and all of their friends will see all of the positive response they get because of the affirmative care that they get from the teachers, and then they'll all go like, oh, I guess I'm trans as well.
	Like, 90% of their French group will all come out as trans at the same time.
	And there's also a startling overlap between young girls doing this and also autistic girls doing this.
	So very much taking advantage of people, sadly.
	This is also a criticism we've had in the UK, especially from Douglas Murray and whatnot.
	Yes.
	Some kids are gay.
	No, you're not.
	You're trans.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	They just see something...
	It comes from what 20 years ago would have been considered some very sexist ideas about gender and stuff like that.
	They're like, oh what, you're not the girliest girl imaginable?
	Turns out, you're a boy.
	Yeah, that's the logic they're going with right here.
	So they've gone all around.
	Yep.
	But she's got some more information in here that's quite interesting that I'll go through.
	So there's other subversion going on.
	It's not just in the classrooms that this is going on.
	Caldera, one of the teachers that I mentioned, says,"'I'm the teacher who runs our morning announcements.'" That's another type of strategy I can give you.
	I'm the one who controls the messaging.
	Everybody says, oh, Miss Caldera, you're so sweet, you volunteered to do that.
	Of course I'm so sweet that I volunteered to do that, because then I control the information that gets home.
	And for the first time this year, students have been allowed to put openly LGBT content into our morning announcement slides.
	Three of the kids on the team, two of them are non-binary, and the other one is just very fluid in every way.
	She's fabulous, so it's actually a nice group.
	And the principal, she may flinch, but she flinches privately.
	So there's no true pushback from the higher-ups, and they're allowing these people...
	But she's talking like a mobster.
	I know, right?
	No, she's talking like a member of the commissar or something.
	We control the information that gets to you.
	They are propagandising daily.
	She's, like, made the principal into someone who is fearful of this individual.
	Well, she's probably afraid that she'll get cancelled if she says anything about it.
	Yeah, so that's how the mob works.
	Yeah, no.
	I mean, the student union seems to be a bit of a mob at this point.
	Well, not the student, I should say the teacher's union, from what I can tell.
	One parent objected so strenuously that the principal invited them to take their child to a private school that more aligns with them.
	So we're not going to solve any problems, just go away.
	Get out, is the tactic.
	Caldera can be heard to say, so that was a win, right?
	We count that as a win.
	Then Caldera added, plus I hate to say this, but thank you CTA, but I have tenure.
	You can't fire me for running a GSA, and so you could be mad, but you can't fire me for it.
	CTA has made it very clear that they are devoted to human rights and equity.
	They provide us with these sources, these resources, and these tools.
	So the California Teachers Association is knee-deep in this sort of stuff.
	They are 100% for the diversity, inclusion, and equity-die ideals that they're trying to go for.
	I'm just thinking in my head, I can't remember the last time I've ever heard anything good about Teachers Union in the United States.
	I don't know what the hell's wrong with them, but they seem to be particularly poisoned.
	They're all completely subverted and infiltrated.
	And now, they know they can get away with it with no consequences, and they're laughing at us.
	Which is great!
	At least we have an admission, I guess.
	Yeah, I know, right?
	If we move along, we can see some of the training documents.
	If you want to click on some of these, there's some highlights.
	So from this first one, you can see it's the Gender Sexuality Alliance.
	It is student-led and student-organized.
	Doubt.
	Which is not true.
	Yep.
	By the own admission.
	LGBT students in an elementary school setting.
	Once again, elementary school goes up to 11 to 12 years old.
	What on earth do you have to do with teaching that sort of stuff to children that young?
	It shouldn't have anything to do with their education.
	Moving along, if you want to scroll along, let's see, yeah, here we go.
	Proactively thinking about potential concerns and pushbacks from parents, caregivers, and community members.
	So we know people aren't liking what they're doing, but we also need to think proactively about how we can head all this off.
	We're going to groom kids, and we need to proactively think about how we're going to stop people complaining about that.
	And what we're going to do is we're going to accuse them of being homophobic or anything else.
	Yes.
	Just a shout-out as well, a lot of this information that we're coming up to now comes from Libs of TikTok, who posted a big thread about it that you can access in the reading list.
	They do fantastic work.
	She's an absolute star.
	As always, yes, she is.
	If you move along again through these images, you can see they say parents are not allowed to attend these club meetings for privacy issues.
	You can go to the last image on here, John.
	You can see having backbone.
	So this is a well-regulated operation that's going on.
	They know all the tricks in the book to be able to head any of this criticism off at the pass.
	It's pretty sketchy, to put it lightly.
	If we move along again, you can see The Spreckles Union School District, which is where all this took place in, released a statement saying that they will conduct a thorough investigation that will be completed by an independent third-party firm.
	This is what came out on the 19th of November after all this came out, and then they released another one.
	If you scroll down on the 23rd, which is where this comes from, they're saying that following investigative practices, the staff involved have been placed on administrative leave.
	the district's commitment to inclusion and the support of all students is still among our top priorities.
	All students, including those in the UBU club, are encouraged to visit Buena Vista's middle school's wellness center on Wednesdays and Fridays during lunch.
	As if I don't believe that that wellness centre is not also completely infiltrated by this garbage.
	They put the staff who have done this on leave.
	By the sounds of it, yes.
	So that's at least something.
	Because that's the thing.
	We've seen this.
	There was the horrible situation in Virginia.
	There have been multiple situations in other states as well.
	I mean, you hate to think just how widespread this stuff is.
	It's been going on for years, and finally, the district's getting to the point where we're at least removing teachers.
	But how deep does the rabbit hole go is what's going on in my mind.
	Well, that's the thing.
	I mean, if you move along, oh, it looks like the link isn't in there, but there's an article that I included in the reading list, which is the Teachers Union wants kids to pursue gender transition without parents.
	So that's fantastic.
	And that was from the beginning of last year.
	And it was back in 2013 in California under Democratic Governor Jerry Brown passed a bill that allowed kids in schools to be able to attend sports clubs and use bathrooms dependent on their own self-identified gender identity.
	Yes.
	So, California's a hellhole.
	News just in.
	Breaking news.
	I know.
	Yeah, so here's the article of California teachers.
	Yeah, and it's got loads of information about that.
	If you move along to that next link, John.
	Yeah, this all led up to last night, where there was a parent-teacher meeting about all of this situation at the Buena Vista Middle School, I can only assume.
	And you can see lives of TikTok posted a photo from it.
	It's a bit packed.
	Much better attendance than you would expect from most parent-teacher meetings, where most parents are bored.
	So this is another Virginia situation.
	Yes, basically.
	All of the parents are absolutely furious.
	And if you move along, you can see here, this is the start of the thread from Libs at TikTok.
	Two teachers at California school reportedly coached a 12-year-old into a trans identity behind her parents back to school, so changed their name and pronouns without informing the parents.
	And let's take a look at some of the clips from this mother going absolutely sick at these teachers, if you want to play this.
	They didn't tell me that my child...
	Oh yeah, a warning on the audio there.
	You allowed these teachers to open their classrooms teaching predatory information to a young child, a mindful child that doesn't even know how to comprehend it all.
	How do you not know what was going on on your own campuses?
	Do you think that no parent would ever come forward?
	You will not quiet me today.
	I will stand here today and protect my child along with every other child who has not come forward yet.
	Do they have psychiatry degrees that I was unaware of?
	Because I didn't hire them.
	I did not hire them to sit there and nitpick my child's brain.
	You took away my ability to parent my child.
	Even before I had any knowledge, I didn't even get to show support.
	You asked for support, I didn't get a chance.
	You planted seeds, Ms.
	Caldera, and Ms.
	Baraki, Mr.
	Baraki, and you, Ms.
	Pagarin.
	Your job was to educate my child in math, science, English, etc.
	Do your job and let me do mine.
	Yeah, so all the rest of the parents start applauding there, understandably.
	She's probably just vocalising everything that they're feeling, very powerful.
	Calling out the BS on them, saying, like, doing the playing dumb technique of, like, oh, I didn't know anything that's going on.
	She's like, do you expect me to believe that?
	What kind of idiot do you think I am?
	very much reminds me of Rotherham in a weird way the fact that like these days people ask the people of Rotherham and you know older folks they're just like how the hell did this go on and no one complained or whatever and I feel like there's a similar situation with the obvious distinction between gays and queers of course as Douglas Murray makes it there's gay people like Douglas Murray and all the rest of it which live their lives and then there are queer types who are always a bit suspect because their entire lives revolves around them being queer Yes, and the politics that involves being queer.
	Yeah, and the fact that we as a civilisation, or as the West, let's say, have allowed this to get, especially in the United States, this happened in the UK to this extent, of course, that there, you know, when you see pictures of those, like, a million different kinds of progressive flags in the classroom, the teaching and whatnot, you see the sort of...
	30 years from now, we're going to be asking people, you know, well, the other kids are going to be asking people, how the hell did all this go on and you guys didn't kick up a fuss?
	I know, and then you see the reading material that was available to the kids in Virginia, where it was stuff called genderqueer, where they could just open it up and, oh, there's a picture of a lesbian sucking on a strap-on.
	It's like, this is not appropriate material for anybody in school.
	This should not be in a school.
	I'm converting to Islam at this point.
	I know.
	And also, just as a warning, teachers, don't piss off the mums, for the love of God.
	Like, the mums protect their children.
	And it's good to see women like this coming out and just being like, no, screw you, get lost.
	And if you want to play the next clip, John, there's a bit more from there.
	You sat there and told me how my child was going to be.
	And then you wrapped your hands around her while I sat across the table and cried.
	Because you thought you could be there better than I, and I never got a chance.
	She was scared to even say anything!
	Your guys' voice were heard, not hers!
	Yeah, so it does just sound like straight-up grooming right there.
	Gaslighting the mother with her own child.
	There is some more stuff, some more clips.
	There was another dad who spoke, but the audio was absolutely trash.
	I didn't want to subject everybody to that, but he basically just said that they didn't mention anything to him when they first started telling him about all this stuff, about the suicide rate of trans people, because if he'd known about that, he would have been very worried to hear them talk about his daughter in that way.
	Okay, so you're pushing my daughter onto something that is very, like, still up in the air about how successful this is going on.
	He tells them to resign or repent, invoking the word of God right there, so good man.
	And then if you want to move on again, there is another dad who just says something quite profound in terms of the tactics they are using, if you want to play the clip, John.
	These were teachers that we knew and supported in the classroom, and their actions have gone too far.
	They've used predatory tactics to push political activism on our school grounds to our children.
	How do I know they're predatory?
	As a volunteer in youth activities, you go through a lot of training.
	They train us exactly what to look for.
	You look for people that use their power of position or authority, which teachers in a school environment are in a power of position and authority.
	They single kids out.
	They look for kids that don't fit or different or need attention.
	They did internet searches.
	They listened to conversations.
	And they looked for kids that were different.
	And they exploited them.
	They gave kids extra attention.
	They gave personal invitations to their club.
	That was the extra attention they needed.
	They allowed kids to do things maybe that their parents weren't particularly supportive of.
	Lastly, they withheld information from parents and they created a system that didn't allow parents to check in on things.
	Yeah, so that's pretty powerful.
	Kind of difficult to listen to purely because of how you can hear his voice wavering as he's saying all that.
	But, demonstration, this is textbook grooming.
	Like, everything is there.
	You're exploiting your position of power, exploiting the vulnerable children, breaking it off from the parents so they don't trust the parents anymore.
	Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
	And another call later on in that clip for the teachers to resign, which is good to hear.
	I'm glad to see that these parents are all standing up and looking to protect their children.
	Excellent work there.
	There's a lot more as well that I included in this, but...
	We're starting to move along a little bit of time, so I'll end it there.
	All I can really say is that make sure to protect your children.
	If you can, maybe try and get them out of the state's hand at this point, because let's be perfectly honest, nowhere is safe.
	Find out what's happening in the school and if that kind of thing's happening.
	Yeah, get them out of there.
	And most of all, any teachers or any members of the teachers' associations and unions who are like this, you should get fired.
	Good.
	I don't know what to say.
	I mean, I'm just reminded of that clip we did.
	What was it?
	We're coming for your children.
	You remember that?
	Oh, yeah, I remember that.
	Two of them turned out to be nonces as well.
	No surprise.
	I mean, just saying the quiet part out loud, really.
	I hate those segments, but we have to do them.
	Anyway, let's do something that's a bit more funny.
	Yes.
	Gulags are good, actually.
	This is not some cry of some autistic commie who thinks that, actually, no, of course, we're just getting rid of the bad guys or something like that.
	In Soviet Russia, gulags are good for you!
	Anyway, I wanted to get this first image up here.
	So this is the museum, the Gulag Museum in Moscow, which you can go visit.
	And I didn't get a chance to see last time I was there, but it looks like...
	I was going to say good fun, but no, that's the wrong word.
	Yeah, maybe not that.
	Educational, of course.
	Educational.
	Anyway, but the funny thing is, of course, the Soviets and all communist regimes that have their gulags end up deporting to them the most interesting people in the country and the smartest people in the country.
	Yes, the people who misbehave or don't fit in with the norms.
	So obviously you're going to get the cool people.
	So I think it was Leo who might have mentioned this article, but it came out...
	Sorry, the Gulag's Cool Kids Club.
	Yeah.
	I mean, unironically, though.
	So if we go to the next thing here, we have The Economist, who...
	There was a study done into, well, what actually happens with the people who are in the Gulags, who are all the most interesting and most intelligent people in the country, after the Gulags ended?
	And, well...
	Well, they were all concentrated in small areas...
	Yeah, so this is the headline.
	How regions near Stalin's gulags benefit today from his victims.
	And, well, they've actually got an argument in here.
	So they start off with a quote from Solzhenitsyn.
	The bedbugs infested the board bunks like locusts.
	In the autumn, the typhus arrived.
	We crawled to the fences and begged, give us medicine.
	And the guards fired a volley from the watchtowers.
	In the Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn chronicled the soul-crushing torment of Soviet prisoners.
	Jailed for criticising the government, Solzhenitsyn was one of the 2.65 million people from 1921-59 arrested for counter-revolutionary activities and labelled enemies of the people.
	Not all enemies of the people were dissidents, simply belonging to the petty bourgeoisie, so that's someone who owns two cows instead of one.
	I mean, again, like the rich peasants.
	Think about that.
	This is an oxymoron.
	Rich.
	Peasant.
	Peasant.
	No.
	I see you have an extra glass of milk for the evening.
	Off to Gulag.
	Often led to a trip to the Gulags.
	As a result, enemies of the people tended to be well-educated.
	In 1939, 1% of the census respondents and 2% of Gulag inmates had university degrees.
	So an over-representation of 100% there in the gulags in 1939 alone.
	Among the enemies of the people from 27 to 53, the rate was 15%.
	Incarcerating enemies of the people thus entailed relocating much of the Soviet intelligentsia, and now a paper by Gerard Tolles of the New Economic School in Moscow and Pierre-Louis Vinzada of King's College London shows that the regions where the enemies of the people were jailed still wreak economic benefits from the forced migration.
	So if we can scroll up on this, John, just so you can show people the first image there, just to make sure people can see it.
	So keep going to the first image, so right at the top.
	Oh, there's not an image.
	There should be an image there.
	So you can see that there's like a graphic that's not working there.
	Damn.
	Oh well.
	Anyway, there's meant to be a big graph there of the Soviet Union and of course all the different...
	And the percentages of which are enemies of the people in those camps are percentages of numbers of people in there.
	And you can see that the enemies of the people camps, the ones that have more of them, have more economic growth as well.
	And that's what their study found.
	The study began with data on the share of inmates in each of the 79 prisons in 1952 who were enemies of the people.
	Save for nine special enemies of the people camps, political prisoners were mixed in with common criminals, aside from a few patterns.
	Enemies of the people tended to cluster in big prisons in thinly populated areas with weak transport links, and the choice of camps they were, were just at random, the ones they were chosen for.
	Next, the paper measured current levels of economic development within 30km of these prison sites.
	It found that the greater a camp's share of enemies of the people, the richer and better educated the people living there are today.
	Nice.
	I mean, that's kind of hilarious.
	That's one in the eye for Stalin right there.
	Yeah, but it's also just a sort of big dunk on the communists as well, of course, that you guys were just killing all the best people in the country, and that's why all your stuff sucks as well.
	I mean, this is a joke they make in the death of Stalin.
	It's like, oh, call the doctors.
	We need the good doctors.
	What did we do to the good doctors?
	Oh, we killed them all.
	Yeah, there are no good doctors anymore.
	We have the ones who are just cowered by Stalin.
	Yeah, we have the mediocre and just bad doctors.
	Yeah, anyway.
	I don't know if there should be some more graphs later on.
	I don't know if we can get those up just for some better visuals than me just reading this.
	But even after accounting for regional differences and factors that were affected by enemies of the people where they were sent, a 10 percentage point increase in the share of inmates who were enemies of the people corresponded to gains of 8% in wages, 23% in profit per worker, and 23% points in share of firms at which an average worker went to university.
	And 21% in the strength of the light emitted at night per person.
	So, a measure of economic success.
	Yes.
	And I think that's fantastic.
	I don't know if you can reload this, John, in some way to try and get those images up, because I really do want to show the first image on there, because the graph is something stark.
	But anyway, so they go on to explain, of course, that if you go through and check what happened to these people after the camps ended, you can see that they had no real choice.
	Is that the image?
	Yeah, so that image there at the top.
	At the top, John.
	At the top.
	That's fine.
	I just want to show the top one.
	That's all.
	So the one at the top just shows the big graph of the Soviet Union.
	And as you can see, the little clusters of the different camps.
	And the blue bubbles being a higher percentage of enemies of people.
	So those are the ones where all the intelligentsia and interesting people went.
	And the funny thing, of course, as well, all the interesting people who are on, like, say, YouTube and Twitter and whatnot have all been banned.
	They know our cluster on alt-tech.
	So if you go on these little alt-tech gulags, you can find all those people.
	As well.
	That's what we are.
	Yeah, you can also find, like, uh, Robin Tomlinson, or the Bad Bad Man, as he's known, of course, on Gedder, or, uh, Milo and Gab, or all the rest of it, anyway.
	And so they finish off here saying, to explain this trend, the author studies where the enemies of the people went after being freed.
	Until 1959, enemies of the people were not allowed to go home.
	Their wolves' passports stopped them from living in big cities, as prisons became company towns.
	Managers at state enterprises recruited ex-cons, who often stayed where they had friends, our family.
	So they just stayed around where they were.
	And then, of course, the little towns have been brought up, which...
	I just think it's just a big dunk on Stalin from a long historical perspective, as you were saying.
	Like most things the Soviet Russia did, it's a complete cell phone.
	Yeah, it's such a backfire.
	And it also just shows how nonsensical their policies were, which I think is great.
	Anyway, so moving on from this, they found that most respondents are also now living there with relatives still, and he ends it with, Joseph Stalin did his best to wipe out perceived enemies.
	It might have comforted those enemies of the people to know that their human capital has outlived the gulag system by six decades.
	And the funniest part of all this, because, I mean, this is a nice story in a horrible sense, in the fact that, of course, these people...
	Success in the face of adversity.
	And horrible evilness and cruelty.
	But there's also...
	The Marxists are still seething.
	Good!
	So, you know, I mentioned that Gulag Museum, which you can go to in Moscow to learn about all this stuff.
	So, the local communists are still super mad, and this is what they did with an effigy of Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
	Revolutionary Youth Group hangs Solzhenitsyn effigy on Moscow Gulag Museum.
	I mean, rent-free, am I right?
	Yeah, can we scroll down and show the image here so you can see Solzhenitsyn's effigy there with a rope around his neck.
	And then just some message they've plastered on being like, he's a liar, nothing happened.
	So I'm just imagining his estate just, like, counting the money they get from book sales.
	It's like, huh?
	Okay.
	Yeah, but also just, I mean, we count the corpses as well.
	I mean, this communist group are just trying to deny everything he ever said and be like, well, it's all just lies.
	Oh, of course they are.
	I think there's a quote in there later on when they say it.
	I've met people from Russia who've been like, I just shone light on the dark parts of Soviet Russia.
	Don't you understand how clean the streets were?
	I don't...
	No, I don't care.
	I don't care.
	If you hit the hat off a police officer, you'd get in prison for five years.
	It's like the Christchurch shooter's argument, almost.
	Yeah.
	And he's just like, yeah, I may have done horrible things, but look at this one nice thing that's happened.
	I don't agree that's a nice thing either, you lunatic.
	Whatever.
	So, revolutionary communist youth group hung an effigy of writer Alexander Scholzenitz on the gate of the museum, and the owner of the museum, or at least the manager, Roman Romanov.
	Oh my, that's Barry Barryson.
	No, but also Romanov.
	You know, the Romanov being the royal family.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	You know, it's probably just pure coincidence, of course, but I just find it funny.
	Director of the museum told Moscow Times that the guards spotted it and took it down within a few minutes, so no one got to, they didn't get to have much of a laugh about it anyway.
	They also tried to investigate the youths because they've got them on camera, so they tried to hunt them down, but I don't know what happened with that.
	But I just thought I want to cover that because it's kind of a neat historical fact that, well, of course, all the best people being sent to all the gulags means that all the best people and their families stay around that area and actually do produce good stuff.
	Yeah.
	Capitalism works.
	Yes, even in the gulags.
	In the gulags, yes.
	It's going to be video comments.
	The Martini Henry came up in yesterday's podcast, so I figured I'd show off my example.
	From the markings, this one saw native service in Nepal and was made about a month after the gunfight at the OK Corral.
	It shoots pretty well, given its age.
	God damn.
	Nice.
	That's awesome.
	God, I wish we could just go to a gun range and have fun like that.
	I think you can with some shotguns.
	I've been with a shotgun, but it's not that fun.
	Yeah, it's difficult to get a license and you need to be a member of a good club or something.
	You just pay for a day to do it.
	Oh, fair play.
	But I do love historical weapons, so it's fantastic.
	I'm sure everyone knows forgotten weapons, for example, in that community.
	Yeah.
	Thank you so much for the birthday song.
	I actually really needed that.
	I had an awful morning.
	And now I can't stop smiling.
	And Carlum pronounced my name correctly.
	I can't believe it.
	I never tried that before outside of dinner like nobody ever pronounced my name correctly.
	Good job, Carlum.
	Well, I'm headed out to eat dinner with my parents and then my friend is going to take me to Spider-Man.
	And look, look, look.
	I'm going in cosplay.
	I'm Mary Jane Watson.
	See you later, Tigers.
	Not in the new films, you're not.
	Sorry.
	Anyway, it's good to see that you're happy and cheerful after your week and a half or whatever it was of alphabets to deal with.
	Callum got your name right completely by accident, but good one.
	Nice.
	Tuck.
	Let's go to the next one.
	My 95-year-old grandmother, who has no particular love for the way the world is progressing, finds David Baddiel sneering and nasty, and so his complaining in his social media programme rather rich.
	I constructed this chart to show that the actions taken regarding others or the self are easily split, but distinguishing between 'for' or 'two' is more difficult and consequential.
	Outwardly, people like to think of themselves as altruistic, but the online world traps them in the world of activism.
	Inwardly, they like to say they have interests, but Twitter bios exclaiming their sexual proclivities and pronouns show where they are truly trapped.
	I haven't taken all that in.
	It was a bit fast.
	Sorry.
	It sounded very interesting, though.
	I'm going to have to go back and listen to that a couple of times, I think.
	I would need to see more examples before I took all of that as a hard and fast rule, but it sounds like an interesting theory to put forward.
	But yeah, I'll listen to that afterwards.
	Thanks, Alex.
	And also, David Baddiel, who's he?
	Was he that guy in the picture?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What was he famous for?
	He's a comedian.
	Is he one of those comedians?
	Um, he's...
	He defended Dan Killar.
	Oh, that's alright then.
	Fair play.
	That's usually a very good benchmark for...
	Oh, okay.
	...knowing, actually.
	It's a public meeting.
	Everyone has the right to speak by law.
	I'm going to hold on with my comments here.
	I'm not going to wear the mask.
	Why are you leaving when a citizen is speaking?
	I support these actions.
	Would you be willing to listen to a few people?
	Maybe not 30 minutes, but how about 10?
	Anything that destroys the productivity and efficiency of local government, even more so than local government already does, is fine by me.
	Did they really run out because a guy got up and took his mask off?
	I know, he might start spitting at us.
	Across the room?
	The dude's like, what, 20 metres away?
	I don't know.
	It is absolutely pathetic, though.
	His sphere of influence just engorges the moment he takes his mask off.
	Is that Chad?
	Yes.
	Anyway, good next one.
	On the topic of languages, I just want to bring some attention to the language of the highly intelligent Earth species of dolphins.
	The foundation of their complex languages is similar to patterns of human beings' languages.
	A scientist named Bateau worked with dolphins for the US Navy in the 60s.
	He died before he could publish his research.
	In 1984, scientist Lois Herrmann studies cross-modal perceptual ability of dolphins, and after some publication, his work becomes a black project.
	Luckily for me, I don't need any translation because I speak dolphin fluently.
	Okay.
	How far did they get with that though?
	Because I know for, I think it's meerkats, they've managed to translate quite a few sentences at this point.
	Oh, have they?
	So, the different sounds they make alerting everyone else to if there's a threat and what kind of threat.
	Oh yeah, that makes sense.
	They even managed to translate, I think the phrase was, a man is coming with an orange shirt.
	Well, they can get it that detailed?
	I think it would be more roughly translated as like, orange human is coming or something like that.
	But it's just the fact that they do have specific things and we have scientists who have been able to get it to replicate that consistently.
	I always just thought that the various sounds were basically just variations on, like, danger, danger, someone's coming.
	Yeah, well, I mean, that is...
	I mean, obviously, taken broadly, but...
	I don't know about with dolphins, but I always wondered if you could freak them out.
	Well, speak their language back at them.
	Yeah, yeah, I know it's very, like, Cole Pilkington's response to the interesting fact, but, like, you know, we found this knowledge, alright, well, how do we mess with them?
	How do I talk to them?
	Like, set up some speakers around the meerkats and just give them, like, misinformation.
	Just watch them freak out.
	You know, is the leader of the group going to be deposed because he's unreliable or something?
	He just starts crying.
	Anyway.
	Here goes.
	Only our Australian friends in New South Wales are free from restrictions, for now.
	Norn Territory has their concentration camps where you detain hundreds of Aboriginal close contacts and hard lockdowns where you can't even leave home to buy food.
	South Australians restrict their Aboriginal community to 20 liters of fuel so they can't leave and turn off cash machines with zero cases just a waste of water protection.
	And as New South Wales is getting rid of them, Queensland is implementing vaccine passports at 5 a.m.
	local time.
	That's from an Australian friend of mine after the fellow said Australia is opening up.
	So, yeah, you're in the shitter.
	Yeah, we actually got one of those yesterday, didn't we?
	Someone saying that Australia was opening back up again.
	And I thought to myself, I've not seen anything about it.
	I believe it was C.S. Cooper and it's his local area.
	If it's his local area, fair play, I'm aware that Australia is split into different states who will all operate differently on this.
	But it isn't looking good.
	I think it's the...
	Hargrove, something like that, camps that you've seen up there.
	You've probably seen the images and videos where, what was her name?
	Claire Lemon, the Quillette woman, was posting like, oh, see, this is the concentration camps you guys are all worried about.
	It's like pictures of random fit people taking selfies in the camps.
	It's like, well, this just looks like propaganda to me.
	What do you want about?
	And then you see the videos of people who are like, I just want to go out of my square.
	You can't go out of your square.
	Please, I just want to get out of my square.
	Mask on.
	$5,000 fine.
	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
	I do like that Australia has become a synonym for tyrannical now.
	So, New York started instituting new regulations.
	Apparently, if you try to go to a restaurant without a vaccine...
	Yeah, Bill de Blasio's big on all the new mandates.
	There were some guys who went to Applebee's or something, and they all got arrested for it.
	And I saw everyone posting that story and being like, man, New York's gone full Australia.
	Yeah, I mean, it's a good one to point to.
	It's a great example right now.
	But also, solidarity with those gentlemen.
	Always Applebee's.
	I know a guy who works there.
	I'll get you a discount.
	Anyway.
	Oh, nice.
	It's a joke.
	Go to the next one.
	So, I finally did it.
	I finally got in trouble on YouTube.
	For using a clip from the Joe Rogan experience, it suggested there may have been a suppression of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment, which is why it has to be suppressed.
	Because there is no suppression.
	That's medical misinformation and lies.
	That's why we have to suppress it and ban it.
	Because there is no suppression.
	Go suck a chimp dick, Susan, you censorious bitch.
	That's sweet.
	For people listening there at the end, his cat froze, and it was a bit weird.
	Yeah.
	Also, yeah, there is no alternative treatment, because if there was an alternative treatment, then we wouldn't be able to have these emergency vaccines.
	Should we just start describing the vaccine as treatment?
	This is COVID treatment.
	I don't know what the right word is.
	It's basically what it is, and it doesn't function as a particularly effective vaccination against it.
	Like, if it didn't come in a needle and you took it in a pill, would people really call it a vaccine?
	No.
	Because you've got to take it every six months.
	You've got a point.
	Yeah.
	I don't know what the right word is.
	I don't know.
	COVID supplements?
	COVID vitamins?
	COVID suppository?
	If you took anal is still a vaccine?
	See, people wouldn't be as enthusiastic if you had to take it that way.
	What was it?
	The Chinese were trying the anal swabs out.
	Let's see if they could...
	Do you remember that?
	No, I don't remember this.
	No, they invented a COVID test where they took anal swabs and it would tell you if you had COVID. What, you got arse COVID? I don't know.
	It's diarrhea, bro.
	You know, there's always weird inventions from China, and that's one of them.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Alright, chat, all together now.
	Have a...
	Simp!
	Alright, so guys, I hope you don't mind me just joking at your expense, but now that I've done my warm-up, I'm going to head off to the gym.
	Also, as well, here's the thing.
	If you don't look like this, just by a warm-up, it's not a real warm-up, as far as I'm concerned.
	Do you have anyone else talking about it?
	You go to the gym, I don't.
	Well, I mean, it depends entirely on what you're going for.
	I mean, if you want to build up a sweat, get your heart pumping, I mean, that's good, but people sweat at different rates.
	I'm a pretty sweaty guy to begin with, so I don't need to warm up that hard to get that sweaty, so...
	You're walking into the gym and it's just drenched.
	Pretty much, man.
	I'm ready to work out now.
	It's just like flowing water.
	Hey, man, that walk there is pretty difficult.
	It's like ten steps.
	Yeah, man.
	That's hard.
	No, and then from that point, I mainly focus on strength and stuff like that.
	So, you know, stay in the five to six rep range and you don't get particularly sweaty when you're doing that.
	Already?
	Just in case you wanted that mental image.
	I've got it now.
	You're welcome.
	See you at the next one.
	A midpoint mindset.
	Here's a word for you to consider for your project.
	Try fascism.
	Pretty sure that the definition has changed drastically from the 20s and 30s to today.
	That's true, but as Orwell points out, even in the 30s, it's already been used for everything under the sun.
	I think one of the funniest ones was the Boy Scouts' fascism.
	A voluntarist organisation where boys get together and learn how to make fires.
	Right.
	Yeah, I mean, I think maybe just go back to calling people national socialists, but people probably won't be as familiar with that term, sadly.
	I do prefer that term.
	It's more accurate.
	It's interesting, I'm currently reading The Road to Serfdom, Hayek, and it's from 1945, and even back then he's already having to head off the pass of all of the, like, listen, okay, the Nazis are not right-wing, okay?
	They don't like free markets, and he just points out national socialists are just another faction of socialists who are infighting with one another.
	That's all it is.
	Do you know about the Nazbols?
	I've heard the phrase...
	Yeah, it's a national Bolshevik.
	Oh, really?
	It was, uh...
	Like, for everyone outside of, like, Russia and Germany during the 30s, it's a meme.
	It's like, ha ha ha, communists and Nazis unite, what a funny idea!
	But there were actually people, and a lot of people in Russia as well, who took this very seriously, and it was a real thing, like a real movement.
	And I imagine it probably just looks the same as Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia anyway.
	Yeah, so their flag is, what is it, it's like the Soviet symbol in the middle of a swastika flag, but get rid of the swastika, take that out, you know, the white circle, just put the hammer and sickle in there, you're done.
	That's it.
	But the funny thing is, it was a movement that propped up after the fall of the Soviet Union in Russia until it was banned because the guys organizing it were all trying to commit terrorist attacks.
	Big shock.
	What a surprise!
	Anyway, so they got banned.
	But there is actually an ideological vein in there, of course, that unifies the two.
	And there's a bunch of, like, Strosserists and whatnot.
	And it's such a thing that we don't talk about, but it also is another pin in the argument of, well, of course these two groups are far more in common with each other than the right-wing conservatives.
	And that's the thing, socialists have always in thought about the tiniest little difference, like the white and red armies and shit, and stuff like that, you know.
	White and red armies?
	I might be getting my history wrong.
	They're completely on the other side.
	Yeah, I was going to say, I've probably got that completely wrong, but ever since the beginning, the Bolsheviks and all the other kinds of socialists, and the Mensheviks, they were all just infighting over small differences, and basically who gets to be at the top of the pie.
	I've always wondered why if Hitler died and the Strosserists took over Germany, because they're more economically left, as they've been described.
	But it's so blisteringly obvious that these two groups have far more in common, and they're so easy to cross over between each other, because they're basically the same thing.
	I'd like to welcome our witnesses from the Ministry of Finance.
	We will have with us...
	How is the government paying the $7 billion bill associated with this proposal?
	Good question.
	That question is directed to who, Mr.
	Poliev?
	Anyone who wants to answer it.
	If they have one, anyone over there that is concerned about where the money comes from, that person could speak up.
	Thank you.
	God help us.
	Please dissolve our parliament, somebody.
	Thank God you've got someone asking that question in the first place.
	That whole room has one man more than everyone else.
	That's all the difference, mate.
	That was fantastic, thanks.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Ah, women.
	Women, women, women, women, women, women, women.
	For you young fellows, fresh on the cusp of a blooming manhood, the questions abound.
	What are women like?
	What do women want?
	How should I treat a woman?
	Perhaps the thorniest problem facing any young man is finding a woman in the first place.
	It turns out to be...
	nearly impossible.
	Where the hell is that from?
	I think that's Mystery Theatre 3000 or whatever it's called.
	Oh, okay.
	That's pretty good, though.
	Yeah, that was good.
	I might put that out, but not on mainstream social media, because that'll get banned, won't it?
	Let's go to the next one.
	You guys should really do a book club on Fahrenheit 451.
	If you're not aware, it's a world where just all books are burned.
	Every single one.
	And the writer actually stated that the in-universe reason is minorities getting offended by the subject matter in the books and that he completely believed this was going to happen in real life.
	So, with that in mind, you should check it out.
	Very prescient.
	Well, that did happen in Afghanistan when the Taliban took over.
	They actually did take every book that wasn't Islamic and destroyed it, along with every cassette tape, fashion catalogue, you know, I could go on and on.
	Basically, anything that's music or art has to be destroyed.
	You know, they're just the majority there.
	I mean, I've never read Fahrenheit 451, but I'm aware it's a classic, so I might give it a read at some point.
	Yeah.
	I know it's associated with conspiracies as well, but I don't know why.
	Because I thought it was just a...
	Lots of old classic books like that have some conspiracy attached to them somewhere down the line.
	I might be getting confused.
	Thanks.
	Let's go to the next one.
	This is Art Gaines, just sharing some of my artwork today.
	This is an illustration for a novel I'm writing called Redeemer's Landing.
	Anyway, I'm looking forward to my Christmas vacation, where hopefully I'll be able to get a lot done, both on the novel and on the accompanying illustrations.
	Funny story, this character is supposed to look a bit more like a bat, but bat faces are hard to draw.
	Check out AutarkBooks.com for a chapter from the novel.
	Alright, cool.
	Looks good!
	I'm liking all the different artists while having something in videos, to be honest.
	Yeah, the artworks I'm very happy to see.
	The only thing I've got in my mind is the closest thing I've ever got to doing anything like that, because I can't draw for toffee, is false colouring.
	So if you take an old-timey image that's in black and white, you can sit there on MS Paint and just put in some colours, right?
	And then lower the opacity or mess with it.
	Make it look more authentic.
	Yeah, and you can actually, just someone who knows skill, you can end up making things that you're actually quite proud of in the end.
	Oh, nice.
	I've never tried my hand at any of that, and I'm a terrible drawer unless you're looking for some pretty high-quality stick figures.
	I'll show you some crap I made afterwards.
	Yeah, go for it.
	Tony D and Little Joan with another Legend of the Pines from SeatGhost.com.
	It's the story of the Hindenburg Ghost.
	The Hindenburg disaster took place in 1937 in Lakehurst, New Jersey.
	36 people died in a fiery explosion.
	Their bodies were stored in Hangar 1, the hangar where the Hindenburg was supposed to dock.
	And it is said that at the now active Naval Air Station that there are ghosts wandering the hangar, making noise, and on some days you can still smell the burning flesh of the victims.
	Why did they actually crash?
	I'm sure I watched the documentary for it when I was like eight, because it was just on on the TV, but I don't remember.
	I think it was something to do with the gas they were using to get a lift or something and ignited because of some technical error.
	Okay, but I'm just thinking, like, you know, I've loads of people who love these trips.
	I know there is some danger involved.
	I don't know what the specific reason for the disaster was.
	Yeah, I mean, Hindenburg looked like a Titanic sort of situation to me, where it's like the biggest and most ambitious version of this thing done yet, and it just failed.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, we don't have any zeppelins anymore, do we?
	No.
	Thanks for that.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Talmud asked earlier in the week about the COVID boosters and if they're different from the initial vaccines, and the answer is no.
	They are identical.
	It is the same string of mRNA being delivered, which results in the production of the exact same spike protein, the same spike protein that is not on the Omicron variant of COVID. Oh.
	Oh.
	Is it not?
	I didn't realise that the Omicron variant didn't have that spike protein.
	I was about to ask, is there any evidence that it works at all?
	And then I realised, well, there's not even any evidence about how effective it was until like a week ago.
	And then we found out it was less.
	So, yeah.
	I'm just depressed about this topic.
	I don't want to talk about it anymore.
	If you want to learn more, take a look at mine and Carl's video, Where Are All These Heart Attacks Coming From?
	Cheery viewing.
	Yeah, I feel like we're being sold down the river and it's all happening before our eyes and there's nothing you can do about it.
	Oh, we absolutely are and there's a shockingly high proportion of the population who are happy about it.
	Anyway, take your COVID medicine.
	No.
	I refuse.
	The reason why I think that globalism is eventually going to fall apart is because it's built on the idea that science is eventually going to discover the ideal way of life for all people, for all time.
	The problem is that no one actually believes that there is just one ideal way of life anymore.
	Not even the globalists.
	Yeah, there's the socialist one-size-all-fit-all mentality.
	I mean, you don't own me.
	You don't get to decide what size pod I live in or the bugs I eat.
	And obviously, when you're trying to come up with a coalition of people from literally all across the world, there's going to be so many competing interests and motivations going between all of them.
	Well, they just don't care about that.
	They don't care about what your desire is.
	You're going to do this?
	And it's like, well, no, I'm not.
	Well, yeah.
	It's that simple.
	But even within those groups of people who are trying to get that, then there's going to be infighting that erupts eventually.
	There always is.
	Anyway, I think we're out of video comments.
	We'll go to the written comments on the site.
	So, on the women over 35 part.
	So, Serevan Nox says, I just read that low fertility is due to climate change.
	Not that women...
	Sorry, what's written?
	Not due that women try to have their first kid at 60.
	Where the hell have you read that?
	I think there is the one story that I saw years and years and years ago that was like a 63-year-old woman who managed to get pregnant, but it was with a hell of a lot of medical assistance.
	So people might have just seen that, seen the headline, and gone, ah, women are fertile into their mid-60s, and just got operated from that information from that point on.
	A student of history says...
	Which...
	Yeah, it kind of is.
	I didn't want to be too cruel to her because it's just like, what's there to be cruel for?
	Yeah, it would be unnecessary.
	Also, she's learning.
	Like, you can see in the article, I mean, sure, she's having a tough time, but she is slowly learning there.
	She did learn a thing as she writes in the article.
	Oh, wait, there is a wall thing.
	And I was like, yeah.
	Empty egg carton memes is where everyone else learn this, but you learn it at your dating conversations.
	Anyway, freewill2112.
	Of course, these teachers know better than the parents.
	The teachers are Bolsheviks and the revolutionary vanguard of the glorious new society.
	All they do is subvert, destroy, and repress and corrupt as they create the new evil dystopia.
	I think that one was for my...
	Yeah, she's put it in the wrong section.
	...segment.
	Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
	They are seeing your own children as their property.
	Ryan Steely says, have people forgotten that dating apps are supposed to be a means to an end, as opposed to an end in and of itself?
	Dating is having a family, what driving is to driving to work.
	That's a good point, actually.
	I see so many people put all the emphasis on the dating part rather than the, okay, if I find someone ideal, then what?
	There is a conspiracy theory around dating apps, and there's no way of proving it, of course, that secretly the guys who write the dating apps and the matches orchestrate all this, they're making it so you have bad matches, so then you stay on forever because they need you on the app to make money.
	That's not evidence for it.
	It sounds like a bad episode of Black Mirror.
	Yeah, but quite frankly, it's also just, you know...
	I think it's much more likely just to be down to people's bad decisions.
	I see John typing something, so I'm sure we'll get some wisdom in a minute.
	Here we go.
	So Bob Bobson says, I'm sure she is only currently being rejected due to her age.
	There's nothing in her attitude which would have led a man to be very aware of her even back in her 20s.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, you don't get to see much of her attitude.
	I just think it was the ignorance I found strange.
	I mean, then trying to blame everyone as being ageous is the attitude part you could point to, which I did.
	Yeah, I would need to see more of her behavior before I could make any claims on her attitude.
	It's John typing out here.
	So, they give you more matches the better you perform to get you into a loop of dating cycles.
	Free premium accounts.
	They keep you trapped in the dating cycle, John says.
	Yeah, there actually is them trying to keep you in there, so it's not so much a conspiracy theory.
	I mean, it's kind of the same sort of cycle that they want to get people on all social media apps.
	I wouldn't be surprised.
	Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
	Anyway, Brad Ayo, I do feel sorry for the woman in the interview.
	She looks like she's about to cry while coping hard.
	When Jordan speaks, she realizes everything she was told by her peers was wrong, and it's too late to go back.
	What can she do except keep calm and carry on?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know the lady, of course.
	Maybe she is happy having no kids.
	You know, she'd call it a blessing.
	But you can really hear in the back of your head the music playing Hello Darkness My Old Friend.
	As Jordan very politely points out, you don't die at 45.
	Your life goes on.
	You probably end up living to 90.
	And if you do, you've got to think about that.
	You're probably going to end up in an old folks home by yourself being looked after by apathetic care workers.
	But if you do live to 90 and she reaches 45 or whatever, you're only halfway there to death.
	Yeah.
	Everything you've done is only half of the journey.
	You've got all of that to do again, except now...
	What now?
	The number of people you can have in your social life is shrinking slower and slower.
	Although I do respect if that was what was going on in her head, I suppose.
	All you can really do at that point is just sort of like...
	Hold your head high and try and live whatever best life you can have.
	She can still go and get kids if she tries really hard.
	I mean, I don't know if she has a husband or whatever.
	But then again, this is all speculation on some women on TV. So Sophia says, once again with women like this, do they ever ask themselves what they have to offer aside from sex?
	They grow older but insist on acting like 19-year-olds.
	This is a great point, by the way.
	There are ways to age gracefully and be very attractive as you get older, but it requires actually maturing as a person.
	Be responsible, learn skills, and be responsible but interesting.
	These women are just hollow and deeply insecure, basing their worth on how attractive they are to a man.
	But yeah, when you lose your youth but fail to gain maturity or any sort of skill or insight, you're kind of screwed.
	I mean, yeah.
	I always find women are far more brutal in these conversations.
	Yeah, no, they are.
	Women patrol women much better than men do.
	Yeah.
	But I will say, you've brought something good in terms of the maturing as a person.
	I've met, I don't know about you, I've met so many people who have women who have been quite young in relationships with men who are significantly older, and the only reason they assume that that has ended up that way is because women just are so much more mature than men at any age.
	Women just mature so much faster.
	It's like, no.
	You're young, therefore desirable to older men.
	Also, men kind of reach a glass ceiling of maturity and are like that for the rest of their lives.
	They're not getting any more.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	But those women at the same time, in assuming such, sort of put themselves at a glass ceiling where they're like, well, I'm attracting all the older men.
	I don't need to do anything now.
	Yeah.
	A lot of my male friends I've made throughout my life have always been a lot older than me because, I don't know, it's just more fun.
	It's just the funny thing.
	I always hear people be like, oh, men will get more mature.
	No, they don't.
	The men in the 60s are just as funny as the guys in the 20s.
	They don't change at all.
	Good.
	In regards to having fun and all that.
	So Henry Ashman says, That's a very good point.
	Yeah.
	If you want to spoil it into what the next 50 years of your life are going to look like if you spend it alone, just look back on the past two years.
	So George Windsor says, in regards to dating, Harry as a really...
	I'm not reading that.
	That just sounds mean.
	I think he's describing himself, not me.
	Oh, right.
	Okay, so...
	I thought that for a second as well.
	So, Harry is a really ugly fat guy.
	I can tell you dating isn't a challenge.
	Finding someone worthwhile is...
	I'm getting very much like North FC vibes from this.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Just like, I've eaten all the chippies.
	I'm 45, morbidly obese and unemployed, thanks COVID. I can still go out and get a date, but finding a mate is much more difficult.
	As the old saying goes, all the good ones are taken.
	Actually, maybe we shouldn't have read that.
	That was just depressing.
	I don't know.
	I kind of find there's a weirdly Chad energy to that.
	Do you know the British meme of the really fat football guy?
	He has a song where he's like, I've eaten all the chippies.
	I don't think I've seen that, no.
	What was it?
	Peas and mash and gravy.
	I've ate the fucking lot.
	I might have to look that up after this.
	It's a great meme.
	But he's just proud of himself he is and he doesn't care.
	Yeah, I'm fat and I'm ugly.
	I still fuck, though.
	Away, away, away!
	Free Will 2112.
	Why should we be interested in what this person thinks?
	I know a lot of single men who wake up each day and I don't hear them whinging online about it.
	Myself included.
	Get over it.
	It is a sky-high expectations that have led to this toxic situation, along with a lot of woke ideology telling us that all men are toxic.
	And where does she get all these statistics?
	I have never answered one of these so-called representative polls.
	I imagine the interest I have in this especially is, of course, that we don't...
	There's not enough empty egg carton memes.
	Frankly.
	Not enough people are seeing the empty egg carton memes, and they should, because it's a reality and something that isn't taught to people.
	I mean, this is why the Cambridge University teaching that to their students was such a shock to everyone.
	It's probably a good thing, to be honest.
	It's not even that they need to know.
	They deserve to know!
	Why would you want this information kept from someone?
	It's vitally important to your wife.
	You and Carl have covered it before, where the women will hit their late 30s and they'll be like, oh wait, what, I can't have kids now?
	Well, also this lady who was shocked to find out that, you know, the wool thing is a thing based on fertility.
	Of course it is.
	Who hasn't told you?
	I'm just playing empty egg cotton music songs in my head at this point.
	So I won't repeat them, but let's go on to the school.
	Adriano P says, Sorry, I'm laughing because that term, the next generation, has been poisoned by Tanamongu for me.
	Wait, what?
	Do you know my iDub's having a fight?
	I know, I know, I know.
	It's just the point of having a croaky-ass voice where she goes, we are the next generation!
	Oh, God.
	Sorry.
	Keep her away from children, for the love of God.
	She might say the M-word, anyway.
	Yeah, no, but yeah, no, I agree.
	I mean, if you want to get theoretical about it, it's kind of exactly what Gramsci told all of the communists to do, infiltrate the institutions, brainwash the kids.
	Jobs are good.
	Kevin Fox says, I only read it as I was saying it out loud.
	Well, I mean, there is a shocking amount of map rights being advocated in the universities, so there is definitely some truth there.
	Henry Ashman says, over 35 with an empty egg carton and want...
	I think this is your comment.
	Want children to call your own?
	Easy!
	Become a teacher in...
	Oh, here you go, actually.
	And claim that other people's children are your own as a teacher.
	I wonder if we should get a little bit French about the English language and ban non-parents or legal guardians from referring to other people's offspring as their kids.
	I'm not for banning language, but at the same time, I do find it insufferable when these teachers, you hear them saying, oh, these are our kids, these are my kids.
	No, they're not.
	You're there to teach them.
	Those kinds of people do exist.
	There's a really horrible story.
	Oh, here we go.
	I can't remember the wives' names now.
	It was a lesbian couple.
	I'm sure someone will say it in the chat, the name of the family.
	They were campaigning for equal marriage, and they were big on that, and then it happened.
	So they got married, and then they wanted someone else's kids, so they went out and adopted a bunch of kids.
	It sounds like a cheery story.
	They took care of five kids or something.
	And they're all of varying skin tones as well.
	Of course.
	Gotta signal them virtues.
	And then they went out to Bernie Sanders campaign rallies and there's loads of images of them taking the kids and all the kids are wearing Bernie merch with Bernie signs.
	There's a very famous picture of one of their kids holding onto a policeman during the BLM riots that went viral.
	Oh really?
	It's like a very famous photo of like, oh look, the police taking care of the brown kid.
	And then they presumably didn't get the kind of clout they wanted and then took all the kids, put them in a van, drove the van off a cliff, killed all the kids and themselves.
	Moving on!
	There are people who go out there to get other people's kids and there's something wrong with that kind of person.
	Yes, I agree.
	Not that I'm saying adoption is bad, just that kind of obsession.
	Another uplifting tale from the podcast of The Low Seaters.
	Make sure to tune in every weekday at one o'clock for these kinds of...
	Yeah.
	Spooky stories.
	Spooky, scary stories.
	But they're actually real.
	I can't remember the name of the family.
	I've got to find it now.
	Well, let me just read this comment before you depress us any further, for the love of God.
	Right, you at home, put the knife down.
	Okay, finally, Lars Peter Simonson says that the grooming teacher may have tenure, but is she woodchipper-proof?
	Sounds like an interesting hypothesis.
	Needs testing.
	We'll let people decide for themselves.
	No comment on that.
	And Callum Dayton says, I wonder why...
	People wonder why the literacy levels are going down in the Americas.
	I wonder if the numbers of homeschool are also going up because of this.
	I can only hope so.
	We're about out of time, Callum.
	Do you want to...
	Do you want to stop searching?
	I found it.
	Oh, we got there, folks.
	Sarah Hart.
	I think it'd be a little bit gross for us to put the picture up, but it's just...
	When you Google Sarah Hart, you'll find the images, and them with their kids at the Bernie rallies, with, like, Embrace the Revolution on the placards.
	Good God.
	It's just like, you people are fucking scum.
	I'm glad they took themselves out.
	They didn't have to do it with the kids as well, though.
	Yeah, murdering some poor orphans that you've used as political props.
	I mean, the worst people.
	I mean, really, the worst people.
	But, yeah, anyway.
	So, it's also a heart spelt H-A-R-T. But I guess we'll end on one comment.
	So, Chris Wolfe, watching the death of Stalin was a great way to make me despise communist systems.
	Soldiers capping other soldiers left, right, and center, like the opening to Dark Knight.
	Yeah, it's a little bit exaggerated, but...
	No, it's a bit...
	No, because the time period is like a few weeks.
	Yeah, obviously they condensed it.
	But the director has said that he toned down a lot of elements from real life because he thought it would be too ridiculous and people wouldn't believe it.
	Because when Stalin dies, you're not living in the perch that's happened 20 years ago.
	But that period is mad.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so I think it's justified.
	I created liberties there.
	But anyway, go watch The Death of Stalin or go and check out my speech about the German question at 3 o'clock on notacenters.com.
	The German question.
	We'll be back on Monday, 1 o'clock.

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