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Nov. 26, 2021 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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- Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the podcast of The Loaded Eaters for Friday, the 26th of November.
I'm joined by Josh, and thank God it's Friday.
Yeah, thanks for joining us.
We've got loads of great stuff that's coming up.
Some really entertaining bits, actually.
We're going to be talking about Stella Creasy taking her baby to Parliament because she's an insufferable feminist and doesn't understand where the boundaries are.
We're going to be talking about the deification of George Floyd, literally replacing Jesus.
Which must go down well with the Christians.
And we will be talking about the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.
It's going to begin on the 29th of November, I think.
So basically, sort of like what you can expect, really.
Is the cover-up in?
Yes, the cover-up's in.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But before we get on to that, we've got loads of great stuff on the website, so I'm going to tell you about it.
Today, this morning, me and Thomas and I, I should say, recorded a new book club for The Communist Manifesto.
Dun-dun-dun.
It's a really good one, and you're really going to enjoy it, because we are very adept at getting to the bottom of all this communist nonsense, because we've been studying it for a long time.
But in the meantime, you can go watch our last one on Niccolo Machiavelli's The Prince.
This one should be out next week, so if you wanted to read The Communist Manifesto in advance, you can do that, and then join us for that.
It's not very long at all, so it's easily done.
Yeah, it's only 40 pages long, something like that.
It's a pamphlet, basically.
But honestly, it's quite interesting being read in retrospect at this point.
But we get into that another time.
We also...
Following on basically from that, we've got a premium video on repressive tolerance, which isn't getting as much love as I want it to get, because Thomas and I went through this in, again, autistic detail.
But this is important to understand why the left is censoring absolutely everything and what they think they're going to achieve with that.
I'm not going to spoil it because it's a really in-depth look into it, and I think it's really worth your time.
But on the flip side of all of this communist nonsense, I had a chap called Luke Avery into the studio.
He's a Christian advocate.
And he came in and he wanted to talk to me about the sort of daddest wisdom in the book of Proverbs from the Bible.
So I was like, right, okay, as long as we don't have to mention God, I'm prepared to talk about this.
And it was actually really, really good.
And I'll probably get him in for another one because there are more in there that we didn't go through.
But this was really, really worth your time, I thought, because, like, again, it's not like religious proselytism.
It's ancient wisdom that has been passed down through the generation about, look, you need to, you know, don't marry your slave girl.
You know, she's, I mean, it's a problem we all face, right?
I mean, it's the problem of the modern age, isn't it?
Yeah, it's exactly what your mum told you when you left home, I'm sure.
But it's really, really good, and I really enjoyed doing it.
I found listening in from the other side of the curtain that I quite enjoyed it, actually.
Right, okay.
Yeah, because, I mean, we're atheists, but, like, you know, we're not...
I don't hate Christianity.
Well, there's obviously some received wisdom there, isn't there?
Exactly.
It's not entirely worthless.
Exactly.
Anyway, we also have a new article by Philip Tanzer.
Philip came in for a couple of interviews, and the reason that the second interview was delayed is because he got stopped by a counter-terrorism unit.
What?
Exactly.
The counter-terrorism unit stopped this German gay porn star and demanded to know where he went.
And so he decided to write an article explaining what had happened and why this is not really on, is it?
You know, I don't think it is.
But this is a really entertaining article because he's got nothing but dripping condescension for these Like, bureaucrats who are running these government organizations.
This is not a premium one, so you can just read this in your own time and share it around if you'd like.
Also, follow us on Getter.com.
We're now up to 15,000 followers on Getter, which is not bad for an alternative media platform.
But of course, we want more.
Of course we want more.
So go and follow us on there, because honestly, I use Getter all the time.
We use Getter constantly.
I'm really enjoying it.
It works really, really well.
Also, we've been invited, or I've personally been invited to speak at the Getter Counter Conference, which is on the 8th of December in London at the Indigo at the O2. It's going to be really good.
We're going to be talking, as Jason Miller puts it, a defense of Western civilization.
We're going to be talking about the various problems that are Incumbent and all around us in our societies and what we can do about it.
Nigel Farage is going to be there.
Lawrence Fox is going to be there.
Jason Miller is going to be there and I'm going to be there and a bunch of others.
I believe Andy Ngo is going to be there.
I think Andrew Doyle might be there as well.
So it's going to be big.
So come down to that.
And finally, the last thing, after the podcast at 4 o'clock this afternoon, we have the Zoom call, the monthly Zoom call for the Gold Tier members, where myself and someone, I think I'll probably rope in John for this, will sit down and just chat to you guys and hang out for an hour, because that's fun, frankly.
But anyway, so without further ado, let's get into what happened in Parliament with Stella Creasy.
Okay, so she basically has kicked up a massive fuss because she was told off for bringing her baby into Parliament.
And we can see that this is so important that apparently the BBC and lots of different news outlets seem to think that this is newsworthy.
So you might be asking, why on earth are you covering it then, Josh, if it's so kind of incidental?
And there is a good reason for this because it is a good kind of Insight into the psychology of people in labour and what goes through their minds and also their...
When we say people in labour, we mean people in the Labour Party.
Yeah, not literally in Labour.
I'd be more willing to forgive that if they actually went into Labour.
Honestly, so would I. Just to give us some background quickly, Stella Creasy is a Labour MP who's a radical feminist, and she famously came out and said, look, feminism isn't about helping women, feminism's about power.
That's very, very cynical, isn't it?
It was a total mask-off moment where it's like, no, just grasping for power.
It's like, right, OK, well, now I don't want you to have any.
But sorry, carry on.
So, I'm reading directly from the BBC article here.
An MP has said it has to be possible for politics and parenting to mix after being told she cannot sit in the Commons with her three-month-old son.
And, of course, it's not as if any other person in Parliament isn't a parent.
I think this is something that every single other person in Parliament, all 649 of them, are able to manage, and apparently she cannot.
So, Labour's Stella Creasy was informed it was against the rules to bring a child to a debate at Westminster Hall after doing so on Tuesday.
Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle has asked a committee of MPs to review the rules, which seems a little bit much, in my opinion.
What's wrong with the rules, though?
No children in Parliament.
That seems like a sensible rule.
I mean, they already behave like children often enough.
We don't need any more encouragement.
Yeah, we don't need literal children.
So, Miss Creasy said that she was pleased to hear this, as rules meant that she could not be in the Chamber for his statement.
Miss Creasy told the BBC she had regularly taken her son, whom she is breastfeeding, and before him, her daughter, into the Commons Chamber.
But after appearing with her son at the adjoining Westminster Hall on Tuesday...
She received an email from the private secretary to the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, which is a really cool title, Dame Eleanor Liang, I don't know how to pronounce that second name, doesn't matter, which said this was not in line with recently published rules on behaviour and courtesies.
So she's literally sat there going, breastfeeding her child, going, order, I have an objection to this statement, Mr Speaker.
Thank you.
Come on!
I don't know whether she was literally breastfeeding a child.
I think it was asleep.
But even so, you don't want a baby making a racket in a place that is meant to rule the country.
I mean, a baby isn't exactly going to be able to sleep in the House of Parliament either.
Well, I mean, at least take it to the House of Lords.
They seem to do all right.
Yeah, exactly.
Right, okay.
The Deputy Prime Minister, Dominic Raab, said he had a lot of sympathy for Miss Creasy...
Thanks, Conservatives.
Rob, you were like a strident anti-feminist a couple of years ago, and you were like, no, these feminists are wrong, and they're basically a bunch of sexists.
Don't have sympathy for one of their lead cheerleaders.
Yeah, I don't know why he said this, but apparently Conservatives love shooting themselves in the foot.
And he said, politicians needed to make sure our profession is brought into the modern world so that parents can juggle the jobs they do with the family time they need.
Why can't she take maternity leave?
Well, we'll get on to that in a second.
She's had basically the entire parliamentary system bend over backwards for her, and she's still not happy for some reason.
Why does she deserve that?
Also, to make matters worse, not just the Deputy Prime Minister, but a spokesperson for Boris Johnson himself said they wanted to see further improvements on making Parliament a family-friendly environment.
Why?
It's just ridiculous, isn't it?
Why does Parliament need to be a family-friendly environment?
And, surprisingly, Keir Starmer actually had the most reasonable comment here.
He just said, it says here, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer's spokesperson said it would be inappropriate to comment while the Procedure Committee considers the matter.
So he's just said, yeah, I'm not really interested.
It's for the Commons to decide.
But the fact that he didn't come out and start, you know, thumping the table on feminist issues is quite telling, isn't it?
Yeah, it's interesting.
Keir Starmer's becoming the most base person in Parliament.
I can't believe it.
Weirdest turn of events so far.
God damn it.
So it's also worth pointing out, I haven't got an article to show this, but she went to a Spectator Parliamentarian of the Year Awards, amazing she even had to attend, which finished at 11pm last Wednesday.
Oh yeah?
With her baby.
So she was out at some award ceremony until 11 o'clock at night.
She's using this as a political tool, her baby as a political tool.
Well, of course, yeah.
That's the entire point of me covering this, that people in the Labour Party seem to be willing to use their own children as political props.
To push their own agenda.
And it all makes sense when her approach to feminism is just power.
I love the way she's saying that.
My well-behaved three-month-old baby.
There's no such thing.
Yeah, when they're three, well-behaved implies they can be not well-behaved, because a three-month-old can't do anything.
They're incapable of moving under their own power.
Well, apparently her children are just so great that at three months old they're already completely able to have self-control.
Yeah.
Can't cry.
Worthy of being in Parliament, incidentally.
Apparently, yeah.
Not even elected and already worthy.
God damn it.
Okay.
So, as you alluded to, there's this tweet here where she's whinging about the letter that she received, which was relatively polite, actually.
John, if you could scroll down a little bit, we can see the actual letter.
It just says, I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that it also applies to debates within Westminster Hall.
Please get in touch whether you'd like to discuss this further.
Instead she went to the media.
Yeah, well, it seems very convenient, doesn't it, that she did this.
Yeah, but instead she made a big public stink about it.
But no, that seems to be a totally reasonable rule.
You shouldn't be in the chamber when you're accompanied by a child.
Yes, entirely obvious.
Totally reasonable.
No reason to kick up a fuss.
And Scott Benton, who is a Conservative MP, pointed out the common sense view as I see it.
Parents who get paid a fraction of what you do pay for childcare and juggle responsibilities so they can go to work.
What makes you so special?
Yes, good question.
That's exactly how I put it.
Good question.
Well, that's a great point, as in, you get 80 grand a year, Stella, and, you know, I don't know how much your husband makes, but on 80 grand a year, you can certainly afford childcare.
Well, it's worth pointing out that she doesn't have a husband because she's in the Labour Party.
Okay, yep.
I should have guessed.
She has a partner, but they are not married.
Of course.
Of course I walked into that.
So, I wanted to talk about what makes her so special.
Well, she's had a special rule kind of put in, especially for her.
So, Stella Creasy was the UK's first locum MP to cover maternity leave.
What does that mean?
What does this mean?
Yeah.
So, she had a child relatively recently, this article's from October 2019, and she is the first...
Hang on a second, so she's had another child, then?
Yeah, she's...
Because this child will be two years old now.
Yeah.
Current baby's three months old, right, okay.
So, someone's looking after that two-year-old, but...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where's the two-year-old?
The two-year-old isn't in school yet, you know, so where's the two-year-old?
Well, that's mysteriously gone by the wayside.
You're pumping out children out of wedlock, and this two-year-old's just disappeared into thin air.
Got another three-month-old.
Weird.
Carry on.
Sorry.
So, this deal that she has struck means that she is the first MP to hire a surrogate MP to manage her constituency for her, and An advert says the role has an annual salary of £50,000 pro rata.
Oh really?
That's generous and stellar to give up £50,000 of her own wages to hire somewhere else.
Oh yeah, I knew you were going to say that.
I'll get on to that.
The locum MP will cover constituency work over seven months and will not sit in the Commons or vote.
So it's just her representative in her constituency.
IPSA, the body which regulates MPs' pay, says it will provide extra funding for all MPs' offices to cover absences.
Well, that's generous of them.
So...
It's actually paid for by the taxpayer.
Goddammit.
Not only that, but she also gets paid in full for her leave as well.
So the taxpayer gets to cover this.
So she's just a massive burden on the taxpayer?
Yes.
I'm not making any comment about women in politics.
I'm not doing it.
I can't see the chat, but I know that's what you're thinking, chat.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not saying a thing.
I might have to say it for you in a minute.
But...
Of course, most people can't actually use taxpayers' money to have someone cover for them at work whilst they're receiving their full salary sat at home.
Yeah, weirdly, most people don't get that privilege.
And she's there whinging about how disadvantaged she is.
Oh, give over!
I know.
And to use the words of one of her idols, Greta Thunberg, how dare you...
Of course, she has the nerve to complain about receiving all this taxpayer money.
What are you complaining about?
And to use the words of other left-wingers, check your privilege.
So, it's also worth pointing out that the House of Commons has a nursery.
Oh, of course it does.
And it's publicly available.
That's what the other MPs do.
It has information about how much it costs because it's not covered by their expenses.
So, for five days, a child under two years old costs £295 for five days, which would be her working week, I would imagine.
So...
The basic annual salary for an MP as of the 1st of April 2020 is £81,932 plus expenses.
So even if you paid...
And just to be clear, Labour MPs claim a huge amount of expenses.
Oh yes, they love their expenses.
The Conservatives actually claim a surprisingly small number of expenses, especially when compared to like...
Jess Phillips one year claimed £200,000 worth.
Blimey.
How does she even spend that?
What's she doing?
Well, that's a great question.
Driving around in a gold-plated limo drinking champagne all the time.
We should go through it sometime, but Labour is notorious for claiming literally hundreds of thousands of pounds in expenses.
So, with her salary and the cost that we've established, even if she paid for childcare five days a week, every week of the year, it would be £15,000, £340,000.
So she still has £65,000 left over.
Yes.
To struggle on.
And there's the obvious fact that she isn't in Parliament every week, five days a week, because she's in Labour.
She slacks off, of course.
So, yes, obviously she can afford this, but her excuse, which I suppose is relatively reasonable, is that the baby is still too young to use at 13 weeks old.
Okay.
Which I can kind of sympathise with.
If only working women got maternity leave.
Yeah, I know.
If only she could get some sort of surrogate MP that was paid 50 grand a year by the taxpayer to take over her duties while she was at home enjoying being a mother.
I mean, oh my god, you've got every opportunity here and yet your baby is still in the parliament and you're still kicking up a fuss.
This is not because of any disadvantage on your part, is it, Stella?
Yeah.
The system has done literally everything to accommodate for her.
You couldn't ask for more, and she's like, well, actually...
Never mind the cost of actually running this parliamentary creche, which is used by a very small minority of MPs in the first place.
Unbelievable.
Which is paid for by the taxpayer, the actual running costs, although they do pay a fee which contributes to it.
So, I also wanted to draw attention to some of the reactions.
So, here is...
Alex Phillips from GB News saying, why can't Stella Creasy bring her baby to Parliament?
Because you're not allowed children in there, Alex, you bloody idiot!
They roll out women to win, but then reinforce that women must choose between motherhood and having a career.
Oh, thank you from the Labour Party perspective, Alex.
I'm so glad you're occupying a position on GB News.
And saying, it's 2021 and women are still excluded from the workplace based on the biological fact that they carry and feed children.
Yes.
Yes.
No, Alex, that's the Labour position of progressives.
Are you a progressive?
Are you an infiltrator on GB News?
Is it left-wing news now?
Cough, cough, controlled opposition.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like, embarrassing.
She did an interview with someone talking about critical race theory, and she knew nothing about it, and she didn't challenge the critical race theorist at all.
And so there's literally this critical race theorist just saying, no, no, it is good.
And she was like, yeah, but does that mean everything's racist?
And the critical race theorist says, yes.
Yes.
That's so easy to challenge.
I know, I know she didn't.
She's an embarrassment.
So, not only that, but she doubled down, sharing her own tweet, saying, lots of men seem to have opinions on this.
Yeah, lots of women seem to have opinions on this as well, Alex, and I'm not interested in them.
Be quiet!
And then she has an emoji with some rolling eyes.
By 2021, we should have normalized hybrid workspaces with crushes so 50% of the population can reproduce necessary for the human race.
No, 100% of the population needs to reproduce.
Like, women don't reproduce asexually.
Like amoebas.
All women as well in Parliament, apparently.
And have jobs, not be treated like a pariah for having the audacity to give birth.
Okay.
So, apparently, there is no right-wing media in the UK, so allow me to correct this.
She's an unmarried member of the Labour Party.
Where is her partner?
That's insulting.
Unmarried member of the Labour Party.
That just seems like an insult.
Where is her partner?
What is he doing?
Why is he not picking up the slack?
Parliament is suffering.
Why can't he look after the baby for a bit?
Surely there's like...
Do fathers get paternity leave?
I think so, yeah.
And I'm pretty sure she could be taking a maternity leave anyway.
Surely she could hire someone to look after the baby while she...
And again, just for a couple of hours while she goes into Parliament.
She didn't spend all day in the Parliament.
It's not like an eight-hour, like, sat at a desk or something.
There is no excuse for this.
No excuse for that at all.
There is also the fact that it is the current year.
Yeah, exactly.
There's nothing stopping a man from looking after a baby.
I'm sure all the people whinging about this...
Apart from his pride.
Yeah.
There's nothing stopping them.
So why can he not do it?
Well, apparently they're now reinforcing traditional gender roles in saying, well, only Stella can look after her baby.
It can't be her partner.
Why should women with babies be in the workplace?
Why does that make any sense?
It's not good for the baby.
It's not like it's a standard applied anywhere else either.
Like, if a female police officer turns up and she's got a little baby on her back...
It's like, what's going on?
It's 2021!
There's a female firefighter running into a flaming building, baby on the back.
Yeah, female soldiers on the battlefield with their babies.
God, this is so dumb.
Oh dear.
Anyway, I had some other stuff, but I'm going to skip over that because I think you get the idea by now.
Let's go back to that previous one.
Okay.
Parliament is stuck in the dark ages when it comes to maternity rights.
Oh, cry harder.
I should have actually mentioned this.
Kathy Newman!
Yeah, Kathy Newman of all people.
So what you're saying is, Kathy, women should be back in the kitchen.
That's actually what I've got in my notes.
I didn't even know.
Great minds think alike.
They do.
So anyway, you wanted to talk about how George Floyd has literally become Jesus.
Yes.
I'm not even joking.
So, you and I both know that wokeness is a religion.
And it's not just us, the people who are concerned with the damage that wokeness is doing to our societies.
People beyond that have noticed, such as Christians.
Christians have become well aware of this.
And this is, you know, a website that's just a blog called Pulpit and Pen.
Well, I happened to find an interesting article from last year where they're like, hang on a second.
This is looking a lot like a replacement religion for Christianity.
And so I'm going to just give you a few.
They're framing.
I quite liked it, to be honest.
As a student and teacher in the counter-cult movement for many years, I've both studied and taught how new faith systems spawn from infancy and grow into full-fledged organized religions.
It is my assessment, in no uncertain terms, that what America is witnessing is the birth of a new religion that will dwarf all other forms of religion in just a decade.
The traditional prominent faiths of the United States, Protestant evangelicalism and Roman Catholicism, nice sneaking in of Catholicism there, will soon be replaced by an altogether new religion that we are watching being born before our eyes.
It is my belief that the rallies and protests we are seeing happen in major cities are in fact religious gatherings.
Very true.
I agree.
So what's the psychology behind this?
I mean, the psychology of religion in general.
You know, the sort of Black Lives Matter protests.
I mean, they look like religious organisations.
Well, I think they must be people who clearly don't have very much meaning in their personal lives, right?
They're not exactly the cream of the crop as...
I mean, I would describe them as scum of the earth, but that's only because there's a remarkable number of child rapists in their ranks.
So I think in the absence of any meaning they want to come together with other people who have similar beliefs that they do and kind of unite around some animating principles because it provides them with meaning that's absent in their otherwise degenerate lives.
But notice how it's very transcendental as well.
It's like, oh, well, it's the white supremacy that we're fighting, the evil demiurge of the universe that's out there somewhere.
Like, institutional racism and white supremacy are basically the original sins of Catholicism, aren't they?
But they're also nicely intangible as well.
Like, you know, Larry Elder can be the face of white supremacy.
It's like, what?
It's something that you can't put your finger on, and so it can never really be disproven.
That's the point.
Absolutely, yeah.
So, if Christians are to survive in America, we must, as soon as possible, properly and accurately classify the social justice movement as a religion.
So as to receive the protections afforded to us in the Establishment Clause of the US Constitution.
If not, we will soon find ourselves to be the victims of state-sanctioned religion that uses the power of bigotry against our more traditional Christian faith.
And I agree with that.
I mean, they are absolutely going to do everything that they can.
This is why I recommended watching that Repressive Tolerance essay by the video that we did about Herbert Marquise's essay, because they absolutely will do everything they can to censor and erode the concept of traditional religion, because that to them is counter-revolutionary.
Well, it's a competing religion, isn't it?
You only need to see, you don't even need to go to modern religions.
I mean, religions are hostile to ones that are rivaling their own narratives, aren't they?
Absolutely.
But the religion of social justice has a particular sort of apocalyptic end times that they're trying to bring about.
And they view traditional religion as inhibiting that.
So they'll do everything they can, just shear it away bit by bit.
The characteristics of religion.
So, again, they're not just saying this, right?
They've got a series of characteristics they lay out.
And once you hear them, you're like, okay, yeah, that does sound a lot like it.
So they've got the sacred literature.
Feel free to check out any of our premium podcasts on critical race theory or critical theory.
Identifying doctrine, intersectionality.
Strong opposition to the cultural status quo, of course.
Totally religious, totally radical and revolutionary.
Characterization of non-adherence as lost, damned, or evil.
Right supremacists!
Acts of worship that include singing, prostration, kneeling, or chanting, fervent proselytizing, and public demonstrations of worship, some form of confession and penance, and messiah figures or figures, usually martyrs, who are elevated as either saints or saviors.
Now, social justice does all of these things.
I mean, we've seen, you know, what were the chants?
They've got...
No justice, no peace, things like that.
Yeah, stuff like that.
You know, they've got loads of these weird chants.
They, of course, do the public kneeling that we saw in the picture at the beginning of this.
They do various sort of singing and chants, stuff like that.
Fervent proselytizing.
They do nothing but proselytize.
They sit there and go, oh, well, you know, They're constantly proselytizing social justice in absolutely everything they do.
They do their public demonstrations of worship, and they have their Messiah figures.
We can go to the next one, John.
If you can scroll down a little bit, just...
I mean, I think George Floyd is an angel forever breathing in our hearts, as the halo says.
Angels, armed robbery, go hand in hand, don't they?
Yes, they do, you know.
Doing his little jig with a fake $20 note to buy a banana.
Which he literally did.
Like, I'm not joking about that.
That's literally what happened.
But I love the halo.
Forever breathing in our hearts.
That's weird, isn't it?
That's weird.
A bit creepy, yeah.
That's exactly the word I would have used.
It's totally creepy.
But yeah, so George Floyd and an angel, and he joins a literal pantheon of saints, if we can go to the next one, John.
Literally, the saints of Black Lives Matter.
Follow me on Getter, by the way, because I really enjoy the platform, but...
Literal canonization of saints.
You can see Colin Kaepernick doing the obligatory kneeling.
This is a religion.
This is what this looks like.
This looks like it could have been painted on the inside of a cathedral.
I mean, there are literally faces floating in the sky.
Yeah, yeah.
They couldn't have made it more on the nose if they tried.
With the religious leaders taking the knee and showing others what to do.
I mean, they've even got people on horseback down there.
Yeah, and the apocalyptic end times where it's burning and the horsemen.
And, of course, they've got the catechism of faith.
We can't breathe.
So they've got a unifying doctrine.
They've got everything about religion laid out there.
It's like, okay, I agree.
It is.
And so there is just one thing missing from this.
Well, it's not really missing.
It's just not properly codified yet.
But as you can see, George Floyd is in the middle.
Why is George Floyd in the middle?
Because he's the son of God.
That's why.
Literally, the effing son of God.
Because a Catholic university has actually decided to start hanging up paintings of Mary, who is now black, holding George Floyd, who is now Jesus.
It's beyond ridiculous.
Yes, it is.
But here we go.
There's the picture.
You can tell that he's Jesus because he's got the sort of orthodox, you know, the halo around him.
The lettering in the halo is what the lettering Jesus normally has around him.
And of course, Black Mary is holding him.
It's not even very close to his likeness.
He's a lot skinnier there than he was in real life.
Yeah, he was quite a big guy.
But there we go.
Literally, Lord Floyd.
Son of God.
The fact that in the trial, the Chauvin trial, the prosecution were banned from comparing George Floyd to Jesus by the judge because it was coming up too often.
This is the martyr.
This is the holy martyr of Black Lives Matter.
I don't know why.
In the same way, literally, Jesus is nailed to the cross, George Floyd got his neck knelt on for your sins, in order to absolve the sins of mankind.
I don't remember the part in the Bible where Jesus refused to get in a police car and said, I'd rather get on that cross.
Well, you know, Jesus just scoffed down his fentanyl, and I don't know when George Floyd's expected to return from the grave, to be honest.
But anyway, as I think it was the Washington Post, one of them, put...
The Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. has reportedly displayed a painting that depicts George Floyd as Jesus Christ in two locations on the campus.
The painting is titled Mama, which references the cries for help Floyd made while being arrested by Derek Chauvin.
But the thing is, Mama was his girlfriend.
Mama was not his mother, it was his girlfriend.
How dare he vindicate Freud?
This is not good.
One of his worst crimes.
That's a great point, yes.
Yes, Freud, you all want to sleep with your mothers, or you just don't know you want to sleep with your mothers.
So the piece was painted by an artist called Kelly Latimore, which, Kelly being a woman's name, this is a man, which shows Floyd being held by the Virgin Mary, similar to religious depictions of Christ being taken down from the cross.
Kana Lozoya, the Vice President for University Communications, said, Jesus, as well as Floyd, is shown in the painting.
You can identify Jesus by the marks on the halo.
A description posted with the painting says the artist completed the work following the death of George Floyd.
The image is evocative of the Pieta, the mother of sorrows.
The description continues.
May Mary, the mirror of justice, hear the cry of all who have known the sorrow of losing a loved one to violence and injustice.
Amen.
Some students aren't on board with this at the Catholic University.
I never would have guessed.
I mean, isn't this blasphemous?
I mean, yes.
Deeply, deeply blasphemous to depict a criminal as Jesus.
I mean, he was put on the cross with criminals, so there's at least some kind of tenuous link, but that's obviously not fair.
Yeah, I mean, Jesus wasn't a violent criminal who robbed people.
No.
Not to my knowledge, anyway.
Anyway, not on my reading of the Bible, but what do I know?
"The icon has no place at the Catholic University of America.
It is blasphemous and an offence to the Catholic faith.
But it is not surprising at all that it was put here," said one student.
"It is just another symptom of the liberalization and secularization of our campus." Good points.
And presumably those people subscribe to our podcast because that sounds like something I would have said.
But a remarkably based take from one of the Catholic students.
This is a symptom of the secularization of your campus.
And in fact, it seems that it's worse than that.
It seems that a rival religion is subverting the Catholic faith in your university.
How awful is that?
I mean, like, I'm not a Catholic, I'm not a religious person at all, but if I was, I'd be a Protestant.
But either way, I don't want to see the Catholics subverted by the Communists, weirdly enough.
There are many students, faculty, and staff who are concerned about this, but there is nothing we can do.
If we sound the alarm, we will be labelled racists.
I'm sure there's a word for something you can do.
It's called, what is it, direct action?
Isn't that what the left say?
Is there any direct action you can take?
They're all for direct action.
I don't know what that might involve, and obviously I'm not advocating anything in particular, but I think they do have theories in their new religion.
But of course, if you sound the alarm, you'll be labelled as racist.
I think it's too late for that.
I think they already think you're racist because you're part of the white supremacy.
I mean, remember, they've called your entire country a racist country.
So you don't have to really worry about being labeled racist.
They've already done that.
Anyway, so moving on.
They released the Catholic University.
This is in the wake of them releasing a report on racism.
Great, that's what everyone looks to the Catholic University for.
Yeah, exactly.
You send your kids to a Catholic university to be indoctrinated into social justice.
That's what you do.
But to be fair, though, the Catholics actually coined the term social justice, so maybe this is the chickens just coming home.
Ah, a little bit of karma.
Yeah, you get what you deserve.
Anyway, so they released a report examining the university's culture and practices on matters of diversity and inclusion.
I mean, it's called the universal religion.
That's what Catholic means, universal.
So how much more inclusive do you want?
Anyway, so there were many voices that went into the icon, apparently, in the black community, blah, blah, blah.
So we get some information from Lattimore themselves.
This was done as a way to mourn George Floyd, the mother with her son of colour who is unjustly murdered by the state.
I'm not sure if I agree with that characterization, but then I didn't agree with the verdict.
So, moving on.
In the black community, there's a dialogue about whether continuously showing dead black bodies is healthy.
No, probably not.
No, but I mean, let's be fair.
Look at Christian iconography.
It is a bit of death cult.
I don't know.
I mean, it's something I remember hearing.
Their iconography is literally a murder weapon.
I remember hearing Japanese accounts of Christianity and seeing their symbols and they're like, it's a bit morbid that they have this, that their saint depicted as being on a cross, basically tortured to death.
I mean, that's what the pagans thought as well.
They were like, this is a bit morbid, isn't it?
When the pagans are judging you for your morbidity, you've got to question it a bit.
But several black friends of mine told me this was needed.
So it is healthy to see dead black people around everywhere.
God being present in the dead black body as a way to respond so this doesn't keep happening.
Right.
I don't think this has prevented any deaths, by the way.
I'm not aware of any.
But, again, I hate the way they frame it.
Dead black body.
Isn't this dehumanising, isn't it?
It's totally dehumanising.
It's the same way I'd describe, like, oh, we saw a dead fox on the road or something.
It's like, yeah, it's just a dead black body.
It's like...
If you're going to paint George Floyd as being a sacred saint and saviour of black people, can you at least use a bit more respectful language to refer to him?
I mean, the only way they could be more disrespectful is if they just called it a cadaver or something like that.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Anyway, so Lattimore said he has received death threats and spiritual denunciations over the painting about once or twice a week.
Many of these come from the Eastern Orthodox individuals in Russia or Ukraine.
The common question that people asked was, is it George Floyd or Jesus?
And the fact that they're asking the question is part of the problem.
I agree on that part.
It is part of a problem.
But the fact that you're asking, is that George Floyd or Jesus, is part of the problem.
Because apparently his answer was just yes.
It's like, right, okay, so George Floyd...
Yeah, exactly, George Floyd and Jesus have synonymised into the same figure.
So is he actually seriously claiming that George Floyd was some kind of reincarnation of Jesus himself, or just that's in the painting?
I mean, what am I supposed to take from his answer?
Is it George Floyd or Jesus?
And he's like, yes.
So they've synonymised them to the same syncretic character.
Oh dear.
This is how they subvert your religion, Catholics, just so you know.
I'm not even religious and this is really annoying me.
Yeah.
Latimore called this a non-answer and said it frustrated the hell out of a lot of people.
Yeah, I bet it did.
Again, it's them trying to protect God, which we can be pretty sure that when we try to protect God, we're creating an idol.
You seem to be in favour of idols.
Like, you're literally...
Painting one.
Yeah, exactly.
So, is that wrong?
I mean, does Christianity despise idols in the same way sort of Islam does?
I think you're not meant to worship false idols, right?
As long as it's idols within the religion, that's fine.
I mean, like, you know, pictures of Jesus are everywhere.
I went to Greece and I wandered around the countryside and we found, like, a small chapel.
It's lovely.
It's got, you know, gorgeous iconography of Jesus and, you know, people prayed to it, prayed in front of it.
You know, it's like, it's not a false idol from a Christian perspective.
So anyway, you know, like we're creating an idol.
Well, that seems to be what you're doing with George Floyd.
But anyway.
One of the students has called for the immediate removal of Mama and said the university's decision to include blasphemous portrayal of Jesus is irresponsible.
Replace it with a photo of Floyd.
They say I can care less because they're American.
What you mean Americans is I can't care less.
But to put up something clearly blasphemous defeats the mission of the university.
Well, yes.
One would expect at a Catholic university to have Catholic iconography around, not George Floyd!
It's amazing how the students seem to be the ones who are more switched on than the actual faculty.
Well, actual Catholics.
Yeah.
The students are actually Catholics.
The faculty are woke.
Apparently, the students should be the ones teaching the staff, in this case.
It...
I hate to advocate that, but yes, it seems that the staff have become adherents to a new religion.
Anyway, so the students have just been calling this blasphemy, basically.
Why is it there?
Well, simply those in the school's administration are woke liberals.
They also added that the chaplain and the rest of the campus ministry seem to think their liberal version of social justice is the highest virtue, even more important than authentic expressions of the Catholic faith.
This is the same campus ministry who has a pride flag in their offices and allies themselves with every liberal cause that comes along while bullying conservative Catholic students.
This is the same chaplain who marched with BLM and barred Abby Johnson from speaking for Cardinals for Life, which is a pro-life club on campus.
So yeah, it seems that the administration of this university, ostensibly Catholic, in reality, essentially communist.
So a bunch of the students are petitioning to get this removed, as you might imagine.
Good luck to them, basically.
They want this, and I love it, heretical painting.
It's just in scare quotes by the Times.
This painting was called Heretical.
It's like, yeah...
I mean, it is.
It's not Jesus.
Yeah, why is that even in quotes?
That's just self-explanatory.
Exactly.
That's a demonstrably true statement.
But Blaine Clegg told Fox News had been shocked to see the work outside the chapel in the law school.
There's a fine line between recognising the innate dignity of righteousness of human beings that are made in the image of God and embracing brazen, progressive politics.
It's not even a fine line.
It's a giant chasm.
He said that the response from the students had been universally negative and described as heretical, blasphemous idolatry.
It's based.
Okay, look, I don't really mean that Catholicism is based, but that's a baseline.
I like that.
The university defended the work and said it represented a good faith attempt to include religious imagery on a campus that reflects the universality of the Catholic Church.
What nonsense.
How is that a good faith attempt to do anything?
Good faith as well.
Those words in particular.
Good faith.
Coming from social justice advocates.
Oh, this is good faith.
Yeah, why?
We've swapped out Jesus for George Floyd?
That's good faith, isn't it, lads?
No, it's not good faith.
That's evil.
That's evil!
The forces of chaos, of Satan, are subverting your religion.
Anyway, that's about it for that.
George Floyd has become literally a martyr for the social justice religion, which is a religion, and they're subverting Catholicism.
I'd even call it a cult.
I think religion is too complimentary.
No, no, no.
I think cult is when the person is alive, and once a person is dead, it's kind of morphed into a proper religion now.
Yeah, I concede that point.
I think it's a genuine religion, and the Catholics...
Well, just remember that you've done crusades in the past.
It's part of your tradition.
Anyway.
Honestly, as an atheist, I'm like, yeah, okay, I might sign up for that.
Dominus.
Take back Constantinople.
Yeah.
Anyway, I want to talk about the upcoming trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, as there's lots of interesting information that you may have missed, because the media has reported on it some of the time, but is a little bit tepid in how it's approached it.
I've noticed that the reporting on this has been very much like, right, we'll put out one article on it, and then that's gone.
And that's it.
We did our article.
You can't criticize us for not reporting on it.
But we're not going to make a big deal out of it.
We're going to make a big deal out of whatever it is that is irrelevant.
You know, this is important stuff, and it's not being given the coverage that it needs to be given.
I think they've given me the impression that they're stood on eggshells.
Oh, yeah.
They've implicated themselves just by the absence of, you know, surely everyone's interested in this.
Well, everyone is convinced that...
I mean, literally, didn't they do a survey and found something like half the public didn't think that Epstein killed himself?
Good.
It was a massive percentage.
Well, I mean, as far as conspiracies go, that's going to be the one that most people are going to believe, right?
Well, it's the one I believe.
Yeah, I mean, so do I. Yeah, I don't think he killed himself, but anyway.
Yeah, all the details behind it are ridiculous, how everything conveniently just stopped working.
Yeah, all these security cameras are off.
Even though he's in a cell with a specific kind of paper clothing and bedding that means he can't kill himself, he still managed it somehow.
And, you know, it's just convenient that he died as well.
There's so many people who thank God he killed himself.
But, you know...
So, the trial begins on the 29th of November, so that's in three days' time, and I'm going to read just an extract from this Vanity Fair article.
So, Maxwell was being tried on six counts, including conspiracy to transport underage girls to engage in illegal sexual activity.
The indictment cites four victims whom prosecutors say Maxwell grew between 1994 and 2004, when the women were minors, some as young as 14 at the time.
Prosecutors allege Maxwell befriended the girls took them shopping and to the movies and delivered them to Epstein to be abused often in Maxwell's presence Maxwell vehemently denies the charges Yeah, so when Epstein didn't kill himself, I wrote an article which I turned into a video about this at the time.
And so I ended up, I'd done a lot of digging into this.
And I read through the sort of 600-page deposition of Virginia Guffrey on it.
And so basically Maxwell is alleged and implicated in all of this.
Apparently she would take part in the sexual behaviours.
And she was the one, like, literally was going out and getting the girls.
But they would have a sort of hierarchy.
So she would groom slightly older girls, like 20 years old, to then groom the younger girls as well.
And she would drive out and collect them and then bring them back to Epstein's Florida mansion.
It's really sickening, isn't it?
Yeah, it's like a weirdo pyramid scheme.
So, I'm going to read from your article that you mentioned.
It's going to feel a little bit strange reading your own words back to you.
Do you want me to read it?
Do you want me to read it since I'm the one who...
Yeah, you've got to take credit for it, I think.
Right, if you want to go to the next one.
So, Gizé Maxwell began dating Jeffrey Epstein in the 1990s.
She was profiled in the New York Post, a piece in 2000, which implied Maxwell had used her friendship with Epstein as a strategic move to guarantee her financial prospects and propel herself higher in elite circles, although she was still a member of the elite anyway.
By 2003, the relationship had ended, but they remained best friends, according to one article.
In the article, she was portrayed as Epstein's personal assistant, who organised much of his social life.
This allegedly extended to procuring young girls, mostly from disadvantaged backgrounds, for Epstein and his friends to molest, as claimed in multiple civil suits brought against Epstein and his associates, such as celebrity lawyer Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.
These allegations have been consistently denied, of course, but many of them were settled for vast sums of money, except for that one, which was ongoing at the time.
I don't actually know.
No, Virginia Guthrie took a settlement as well.
Yeah, she did.
Yeah, so none of this ended up going through the courts.
Maxwell is alleged to have lured girls into the sex trafficking operation with offers of modeling and fashion work offering to pay for their education.
She apparently kept photos of girls which Epstein is alleged to have wired up his properties with secret cameras in order to record his friends in the act.
Maxwell denies all of this, of course.
In 2005, a distraught Florida woman contacted the Palm Beach Police Department claiming her 14-year-old stepdaughter had been molested by a wealthy grey-haired man called Jeff, who had paid the girl $300 for a massage.
The teenager in question had apparently been groomed into the task by one of these older girls.
Police raided Epstein's Palm Beach mansion and discovered evidence to support the allegations.
In addition, they found various sex toys, lubricants and receipts for books with names like Slave Craft, Roadmap for Erotic Servitude Principles.
It's not the kind of book an innocent person would own, is it?
Well, I mean...
I mean, in abstraction, if you had that, you'd be like, yeah, I had that for curiosity's sake, maybe.
But when you're under a bunch of allegations of running a sex trafficking ring for children, probably not.
It's not a good look.
No.
But 40 girls gave testimony against Epstein in accounts that broadly mirrored each other.
A young woman would offer girls money in order to massage Epstein.
this would lead to abusive sexual encounters and some kind of pyramid scheme, it seems.
And often Epstein would offer the girls to his friends.
And in 2009, Virginia Guffrey filed her lawsuit claiming the pair had recruited her at 15 while at a position at Mar-a-Lago as a towel girl to become a sex slave in Epstein's trafficking operation.
This is Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago, where he banned Epstein from going there, incidentally.
She told the Daily Mail, basically, I was training to be a prostitute for him and his friends who shared an interest in young girls.
She laid these allegations against Epstein, Maxwell, Dershowitz, and Prince Andrew, claiming they all sexually assaulted her when she was under Florida's age of consent, and they, of course, all denied it, and this was all settled, and the file sealed.
There was something else I was going to add on that, but I can't remember if it was offhand, so never mind.
So that's basically the background.
Yes.
Epstein was convicted for trafficking underage children for sexual reasons or something like that.
I can't remember exactly what the charge was.
But basically he was convicted for being a child trafficking pedo.
And then he was arrested again and then apparently killed himself.
Killed himself.
Yeah.
But anyway, I wanted to get on to what seems to be something very suspicious.
Some might say laying some kind of groundwork for a cover-up.
Although, I mean, I wouldn't want to say anything too declarative.
Oh no, I'm going to say it.
Okay.
I'm going to say it.
Look at that headline.
Transcripts from Ghislaine Maxwell's case, quote, too sensational and impure for the public.
It's the public that are currently marching down the street in a pride parade listening to WAP by Cardi B. But these would be too sensational and impure.
Are you kidding me?
We've been sufficiently debauched.
I mean, there's pornography everywhere.
What are you talking about?
Like, you're doing this because you don't want people to know.
That's why.
You're doing this because it would make the people involved, who are rich and famous and important and powerful, they'd look really, really bad, wouldn't they?
That's why you're doing it.
I've never heard of anything like this before, either.
It's really suspicious.
It's just like...
Oh, not the public's ears.
They're too pure and it'd be too sensational for them to hear.
Now here's Cardi B. It's so ridiculous.
Rapping about her wet hole.
Gosh, gosh.
Maybe in the 1950s this would have stood up.
Yeah, well, I don't know how any reasonable person...
Like, this is obviously some...
There's something else going on here, right?
Obviously.
So, the article says, A federal judge in New York has granted requests to redact segments from Ghislaine Maxwell's case file last month, when this was written, ruling some of the details were too sensational and impure to reveal.
How about zero of it?
I'd like to see it all.
So, US District Attorney Judge Alison J. Nathan on Thursday adhered to most of the redactions filed by the US government on its case and added several redactions of the transcript interviews at Maxwell's request for some reason.
Why?
Who gets this kind of privilege?
Did Derek Chauvin get this privilege?
Society's elites did.
Exactly.
One rule for them.
The reason for the judge, apparently, is citing privacy interests.
The judge, Nathan, ruled that the disclosure of certain portions of the transcript would merely serve to cater to a craving for that which is sensational and impure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
That's what it is.
It's not that it's going to implicate a bunch of really important people as being kiddie diddlers.
It's just so transparent.
It is.
It totally is.
And the New York Times clearly must have some skeletons to hide because they are going out of their way to claim that Epstein didn't kill himself.
Yeah, I saw this.
I haven't read through this, but I don't care about the detailed look at his final days.
Because, A, we've already seen it.
That came out at the time.
Because, you know, that's how we know that all of the security cameras are off.
And all of the, you know, the guards didn't sign in properly or something like this.
They basically did everything possible.
To create a corridor of darkness in the public record for a period of about an hour or something like that.
So that if someone wanted to go in and come out after doing something, they'd be able to without being caught.
That's what happened.
And it's like, oh, these coincidences.
And the New York Times just like, oh, well, actually, actually, I mean, this is an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe you.
I don't trust you.
So I want to just read a few of the things that they mentioned on their thread here, but not go into the actual article because, you know, it's a load of rubbish.
But they say, um, exclusive newly obtained jail records do not support the conspiracy theory that Jeffrey Epstein's death was not a suicide.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe these things that could be easily fudged after the fact don't support the narrative that Jeffrey Epstein was killed by some elites to hide the fact that they were in his black book.
That was lucky.
Another coincidence on the pile of coincidences.
Sorry, go on.
The New York Times goes on to say that they provide the most detailed look yet at his final days and show mistake after mistake made by the jail officials.
Just mistakes!
All these coincidental mistakes, guys.
The records, which we obtained from the Federal Bureau of Prisons after filing a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, show Epstein repeatedly telling correctional officers, counsellors and inmates he had much to live for, whilst also hinting that he was increasingly despondent.
Because Epstein basically got away with it the previous time.
He got the conviction, but he didn't do any jail time, if I recall correctly.
And of course, I'm sure he greased a few palms in order to make that happen.
That really wouldn't surprise me.
When he died, he had something like $600 million in assets and $60 million liquid capital in the bank.
So the idea that some of that wouldn't have gone somewhere, I find hard to believe.
But yeah, unbelievable.
So, they go on to say...
Oh, yeah?
How do they know that that was Epstein?
Well, they don't.
Yeah, they just heard the noise of ripping up sheets.
Exactly.
And this is the evidence, is it?
If someone had been allowed into the cell with all the cameras off, well, why wouldn't they be like, yeah, well, if we tear up the sheets and make it look like he's killed himself, then they'll just believe it.
Exactly.
And then we'll have a corroborating witness, even though they didn't witness anything.
It's so ridiculous that they're acting as if this disproves anything.
Yeah, I don't believe any of it.
No.
So, this next article I thought was very interesting, because it's from the Rolling Stone, which, the namesake, I mean, they've got some questionable history themselves.
Yes, they do.
But it's called, High Society Bracing Itself for the Fallout of Maxwell's Trial.
Everybody is absolutely horrified.
What, all of you pedos?
All the pedos are like, God, is everyone going to know that we're pedos?
Yes, we know you're pedos.
So it starts off in the byline.
What will be revealed?
Who might she name?
Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand woman.
They're all trembling!
Epstein's right-hand woman is going on trial about their alleged crimes.
Alleged, really.
And those who used to know her can't stop talking about it.
Okay, well that just makes me think that a bunch of people are guilty.
I mean, at the end of the day, Epstein was trafficking these girls to someone.
The question of how he made his money is very interesting.
Because no one can quite say.
Wasn't he a physics teacher?
And then he mysteriously just made lots of money basically overnight.
Yeah, basically.
And he ended up as some sort of financial advisor.
And he ended up taking on clients who were only billionaires.
It's like, why him?
Why would you choose him?
Of all people, yeah.
Of all people.
Some guy with no history or knowledge of the subject.
He's literally just a physics teacher or something.
And then suddenly, he's a billionaire with islands and, you know, jet planes, and he gets convicted for child trafficking among the elite.
It's a very interesting background, isn't it?
Come on, it's transparent.
And now they're all like, well, I mean, this is going to make us all look guilty, isn't it?
Yes!
Yes, it is!
And there's also something, this is a little bit of an aside, but listen to this.
When she walked into the court on Monday morning for the penultimate pre-trial conference before she faced what will amount to the fight for her life, Ghislaine Maxwell looked like she did ten years ago.
In fact, she looked better.
We're complimenting on her looks now.
It will get better, don't you worry.
I mean, she's a child trafficker, and Guffrey alleged that she raped her as well.
So, okay, high society's like, yeah, but think of Roman Polanski.
It gets better.
Thick black glossy hair, a black turtleneck sweater, grey slacks, a bottle of Poland spring in her hand, no cuffs anywhere, a smile even as she talked and shared a laugh with her lawyer, who were clearly fond of her.
One brush at the back of her hair.
Another rubbed her back and shoulders, a gesture of sympathy.
What?
This sounds like something that the Daily Stormer would have written about Anders Breivik.
It's trying to paint her as sympathetic as possible, isn't it?
Oh, totally.
Like everything's going her way.
And wait for it, this next part.
It gets much better.
Everyone loves Ghislaine, I mean, you know.
I knew Maxwell slightly because I'm part of the expat British community in New York, so I ran into her from time to time over the years.
At various pedo conferences, yeah.
I can't see why they're being complimentary about her.
Why would you do this?
I don't know.
And I know a good number of her friends, or former friends I should say, so...
What are they saying amongst each other as she heads to trial?
In the past year I noticed something as I was reporting on Chasing Gislaine, an special and audible podcast of the same name.
Hardly any of the people who went to drinks at her house or to dinners for Prince Andrew, many of them members of the British upper class or American plutocracy, wanted to talk about Maxwell on the record.
Oh really?
Oh really?
That's really interesting!
Many of them professed that they were horrified, disgusted at the allegations she is charged with.
Oh yeah, I bet Prince Andrew is just like, oh, this is terrible, terrible.
It almost made me break into a sweat.
Oh, you beat me to it.
Sorry.
One person who went to dinners that included Maxwell, Epstein and Prince Andrew told me, I can't remember the last time I heard anybody say, poor Ghislaine, she should be allowed to say her story.
I think everybody's absolutely horrified.
Everybody's embarrassed that somebody in our broader circles, Could have been behaving in such a terrible way.
Ah, that's what it is.
Behaving in such a terrible way.
When you're trafficking and raping children, it's just behaving in such a terrible way.
And none of us had any idea.
Oh my goodness, they're trafficking children.
Unbelievable.
Surely, they should be kind of...
Really enthusiastic about testifying, because then if they testify against her, like, yep, I've washed my hands, I've done my bit, I'm not implicated, but they're all keeping their heads down, aren't they?
Exactly, and the thing is, there are loads of stories from the Guffrey depositions that were basically things like, where it's someone who wasn't part of this, obviously.
And they'd gone into Epstein's mansion, and there was one that stuck out in my memory, that Epstein and Maxwell were in there, and there was this teenage girl who was just sat at a table like this, and they were trying to talk to them because they didn't know who they were.
So they were like, who are you?
What are you doing here?
And they were basically just not responding to anything, and it's just like...
No, that's awful.
What, they were just sitting and not even engaging?
Yeah, just sitting at a kitchen sort of counter, just sat there like this, just not talking and just barely responding, and it's just like, just random teenage girl in Epstein's place won't respond, and you're just like...
Okay.
That's perfectly normal, yeah.
Exactly.
There's something, that's an abused child that you're talking to.
And that's the, I can't remember who it was, but they had given testimony.
And clearly they'd come across with that, come away with that impression too.
And it's like these people, I've never heard of anything.
Bollocks.
Bollocks.
So I'm aware that I'm almost running out of time, but I'm going to try and continue through.
So this next article from Metro kind of suggests that Maxwell is in pretty high spirits without her chances.
So it's titled, Ghislaine Maxwell laughs, hugs, blows, kisses in court amid jury selection for sex trafficking trial.
It's like she doesn't think she's going to be found guilty.
Yeah.
It's like she doesn't think she's going to be goddamn or punished.
It's almost like she knows the outcome before the trial has even happened.
It is, isn't it?
Unbelievable.
Can you imagine having this level of privilege and protection?
You're being accused of raping children and you're in the trial, the jury selection, you're like, ha ha ha, this is going to go great, isn't it?
Unreal.
Unreal.
So, I'm going to read...
This is the same hearing that the sycophant at the New York Times was talking about.
So, Maxwell, 59, wearing a black turtleneck sweater and grey pants...
Looked great.
Lush hair.
Beautiful makeup.
Oh, she's so wonderful.
Converse with her attorney in a New York courtroom on Thursday.
The third day of jury selection, the British socialite even turned in her seat and blew multiple kisses to her sister, Isabel, who watched from the gallery...
The Daily Beast reported that.
And I hate to give the Daily Beast any credit, but their coverage of the Epstein stuff has been fantastic, actually.
The Daily Beast, in all other respects, and in every other subject, is woke cancer.
But on this, they've done a great job.
So, another thing, if we go to this article by Fact Check AFP... Despicable Outlet otherwise, but they have drawn attention to the fact that there are no cameras at the trial.
And they explain this by contrasting it to the Rittenhouse trial, so I'm just going to quickly read all this out.
Of which every second was broadcast.
Yes.
And obviously it was very important because we got to see lots of the details of the case and actually understand the final outcome much better because of it.
So, Rittenhouse, an American teenager who shot dead two men during a protest and riots against police brutality in Wisconsin, was acquitted of all charges after a politically divisive trial that was live-streamed and televised by several news outlets.
But cameras' access rules differ only because of the courts where the trials are taking place.
According to the United States Courts website, federal rules of criminal procedure 53 states, except as otherwise provided by a statute or these rules, the court must not permit the taking of photographs in the courtroom during judicial proceedings or the broadcasting of judicial proceedings from the courtroom.
In contrast, cameras have been allowed in Wisconsin at the judge's discretion since 1979 and the Rittenhouse trial was held in Wisconsin.
And you get the idea.
So that's the line in which they're taking.
Well, that's lucky for Maxwell then, isn't it?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
You know, oh, I'm going to be tried in New York or whatever it was.
Well, that's lucky for you.
And the final thing I wanted to touch on, because I'm going to skip over some of the stuff because we don't have time, is that Virginia Gruffrey is absent from the trial, which implies that perhaps she is not a credible witness according to Prince Andrew's...
Teen.
Convenient, isn't it?
I'm sure Prince Andrew would love to be able to assert that.
Because there's a picture of him holding Virginia Guffrey by the waist with Ghislaine Maxwell in the background.
And this girl, I mean, she's literally like, you can see she's a very young woman at the time, a teenager at the time.
And she's the one accusing them, saying that they raped her and all this sort of stuff.
It's like, yeah, I'm sure you would say that.
You would absolutely say that.
So this Telegraph article says, the decision will spare Prince Andrew, who is fighting his own civil case brought by Miss Guffrey, the uncomfortable scrutiny he had feared at the highly anticipated trial next week.
Prince Andrew's team claimed she is a less-than-credible witness who has changed her story over the years.
As the most high-profile and vocal accusers against Maxwell, Epstein and individuals like the Duke, one might have expected Miss Guffrey to be the star witness sources close to the Duke.
The Duke's camp have said, sorry.
However, the fact she is not to be called can only lead one to conclude that her increasingly inconsistent accounts make her a less than credible witness, they told the Telegraph.
That's the only thing we can conclude.
She hasn't been called by the prosecution or the defence, and therefore that means that she's not a credible witness.
It doesn't mean that there's a fix in, or anything like that.
What it means is that she's not credible.
She's also received sums of money, hasn't she?
Yes.
She's been paid off.
Yes.
She's not paid off.
They've settled with her.
But the fact that they didn't call her, well, does she get to choose to be called?
Could she go up and say, excuse me, I'd like to give evidence, please?
Or does she have to be asked by them, and they're not asking her?
I know I said that would be the last thing, but I've realised that I've got to mention Epstein's Little Black Book before ending.
So supposedly, according to this article from Insider, Ghislaine Maxwell doesn't want jurors to see a copy of the little black book Jeffrey Epstein kept in his mansion that lists contact information for rich and powerful people.
In a partially redacted court filing from the past several weeks, federal prosecutors and attorneys for Maxwell have juked it out over whether a copy of the book, referenced in the filings as Exhibit 52, can be entered into evidence so that portions of it can be shown to the jurors in the British socialite sex trafficking trial which is scheduled to begin on the 29th.
Ms Maxwell requests that the government be precluded from discussing the book at the trial prior to proper evidentiary foundations being established.
However, the book has been published online by Gawker in 2015.
Again, another leftist outlet that's actually done some good work, including the names and contacts information of powerful people, including former President Donald Trump, although obviously he's been against Epstein for quite a while before the accusations came out.
In 2002, he basically said that Epstein was a pedo.
Well, yeah.
I mean, if he was implicated, I don't think he would be dragging himself down one day.
And it's important to note as well, Bill Clinton's heavily implicated in this.
Virginia Guffrey didn't lay any accusations against Clinton or Trump.
That's true, yes.
Also, Victoria's Secret's founder, Les Wexner and Prince Andrew, of course.
However, if you do want to read the full black book, you can find it on the internet.
Well, you can find it in our reading list on our site, which is linked down below.
And you can read this version, which is the redacted version, because it's got the details, phone numbers and stuff.
Although I do know that there is an unredacted version going around.
But obviously I can't tell you to seek that one out.
No, no, no.
But you can find the names of the people in there.
If you want to scroll down, John, you can just see that it's like, you know, loads and loads of rich and powerful people.
And this just, you know, someone scanned the book, clearly.
And so here's 92 pages of the people who are hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein.
So this is supposedly the kind of menu of people who could potentially be implicated if this wasn't a farcical trial.
Stop there, right?
So notice how the, you know, Arkel, Busson, you know, Charlie Butler, Robert Bryan, and then you just get Cammy.
Oh yeah.
You get this series, they're individual women's names.
Everyone else is dual named, but then just one woman's name.
Naomi Campbell is the next one.
Cammy.
Interesting.
One number with one girl, because all the other ones have multiple numbers, multiple ways of contacting them, but just one word, one thing, that's a victim.
There's also the fact that the more numbers is normally a good indication of how elite they are.
There we go, Carmine.
Who's Carmine?
Well, it's clearly the names of the people who he was trafficking, right?
Yeah, it's a girl's name.
I'm sure that that's what that is.
I think I'm pretty much out of time, but hopefully I've given you something to look at, at the very least.
Yeah, well, that's what's happening with the Gislaine Maxwell trial that's going to be starting soon.
Let's go for the video comments, John.
There is a difference between singular and ensemble that necessarily involves nonlinear system dynamics.
Neither the bird nor the flock are independent, both are codeterminate and inseparable.
The result of the interaction of a macro scale and a micro scale ensemble is necessarily deterministic, but not predictable.
The perception of free will is then a result of motivation circuitry.
Iteration deselects other possibilities because they end up being less motivated with respect to similar scale action.
It's a necessary approximation sensation.
The how part of all the options in an ensemble are not equally possible.
We act within a relatively linear basis dimension, so the assumption of free will is appropriate for everyday life.
This changes when we consider the ensemble because the assumption of linear basis dimension no longer necessarily applies.
Non-linear determinacy matters because the interactions between individuals and society, how we orient within and as a culture, are non-linear processes.
A philosophy or calculus that doesn't have a basis in reality will break when applied to reality.
This often leads to the assertion that reality is broken and that we have the power to fix it, rather than acceptance that the philosophy is broken and needs to be reworked.
Yes.
But also, yes, because what he's doing there is kind of synthesizing the two points together.
And it occurred to me as well, essentially we're discussing two different subjects anyway, because you're speaking to like an objective outside perspective.
Well, you know, people's need for food is determining their desire to eat and their choices.
But that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the moral assessments we make about the world, and that begins from a personal perspective.
And so we're not even talking about the same subject, really.
But in summary, Josh is wrong.
Okay.
No, I've been doing lots of thinking about that discussion.
And there are a few things where I think that we could have approached things slightly differently and more constructively.
And I don't know whether you would want to do another one in the future where we can kind of work together a bit more rather than talking...
We'll definitely talk hard to each other.
Yeah.
Because we won't...
Yeah.
Yes.
But we will continue to discuss free will.
I'm sure we'll figure it out.
I didn't want to kind of just flesh out the conversation and then it'd be inorganic.
I wanted to have the final discussion because we've discussed this in the office before, just informally, but we never actually sat down and had a proper discussion about it.
But I thought it would go slightly differently.
No, no, it's fine.
Hello, audience eaters.
I finally decided to get a proper subscription because of all the new philosophy content from Carl and Thomas.
I have a philosophy background myself, and I look forward to chipping in my two cents.
I really appreciate you guys doing it.
In the meantime, I thought I'd share my hobby like everyone else has.
I am an avid motorcyclist.
This one behind me is a restoration project.
I remember Carl used to shout at motorcycles as it would drive past and interrupt his screams.
I wonder if...
Y'all's opinion on these has changed at all as we've kind of started to study some of the more emotional sides of the human experience.
I know it's changed mine.
I look forward to your thoughts.
In the meantime, it's pronounced Waukesha.
Steady on.
Yeah, it might be pronounced Waukesha in America.
But in English, it's pronounced Waukesha.
We invented the language.
We can say it how we like.
Thank you very much.
But no, I don't hate motorcycles or anything like that.
I was just annoyed that my streams were being interrupted by a loud guy going past.
But thankfully, I don't live in that place now.
So it's not a problem.
No, I love when people tell us about the hobbies and stuff, man, because it's like, look, you've got something that genuinely brings you pleasure, and you can invest yourself in it, and you get a demonstrable art.
I'm looking forward to...
Hopefully he sends us the restoration project in its stages, so we can see how it gets better, because I love watching things improve.
Motorbikes are fun, but they're only fun...
Josh, motorbikes are fun!
Yes, but only if you're driving them before 10 o'clock.
After that, they're too noisy and give it a rest.
That's my two cents.
Josh's fun within the boundaries.
Very controlled fun.
After that, it stops being fun.
Then you become a horrible person.
Yes.
Let's go to the next one.
Hey guys, what's going on?
Fellow Gold Tier member here.
Just wanted to say thank you to all the Lotus Eaters and Carl for all you've created, all of the inspiration that you guys have given all of us here, just as listeners, as Tier members.
It's amazing what you guys have done.
I truly appreciate it.
I definitely want to get into a little bit more of what you guys have helped motivate me to create and do.
That is such an awesome comment.
I know, that was great, yeah.
Awesome setup as well, the music gear.
That's the kind of stuff that I don't have yet.
Yeah, you're a musician as well, so this is your sort of stuff.
But honestly, these are such nice comments.
Thanks so much, guys.
I really appreciate it.
It's so kind.
I was in a bad spot in my life when my friend recommended me your episode of Joe Rogan.
I grew up in a very woke community, and this is the first time I really got to hear someone who sounded like me talk.
My relationship with my family was always strained, but thanks to a heartfelt letter and your Black Fathers Matter shirt, I've been able to grow closer to my family.
I'm currently working on starting up my own business now.
Your advice and wisdom has been super helpful through my life, so when I found out Lotus Eaters were going to be fan-funded, I had to jump on it.
Being able to give back means so much to me.
Thanks for everything, man.
These are such nice comments.
I wasn't expecting all of these lovely comments.
And that looks delicious as well.
Yeah, that's great.
I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying the platform.
Obviously, I can't take any credit for all of that stuff.
That's all your hard work.
No, that's the point.
This is a team effort.
Everyone here is doing amazing work.
Everyone works really hard, and I'm very proud of everything that we do.
So thank you.
Really appreciate it.
Arguably, the awakening is worse than the Starlight the awakening is worse than the Starlight Lancer for anime style.
However, clearly, Mr.
Cooper has an infectious fondness for Asian cultures.
By the end of this book, I was enjoying the characters actually failing and learning, even if they were described as striking poses all the bloody time.
That's a very backhanded endorsement, actually.
Oh, makes me feel nice.
See you around.
That's the way it should be.
I'd like to see.
Thank you.
The whole world is smiling with me.
Don't look older as life.
Have a flight and make...
Judge Schroeder.
Smile.
Awesome.
Notice how there weren't any protests in Kenosha, though.
After the verdict, no one was out in Kenosha protesting, burning stuff down.
That happened in Portland and Seattle and New York and San Francisco.
Yeah, I didn't really think about that.
Karin has his free and he has his AR-15 and it's legal for him to have it.
They didn't come back.
They got the message.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I posted something on Getter the other day, actually.
It was a Reddit post in some leftist sub-forum where they're complaining, oh, this trial has already had ramifications in the protest community because now everyone knows that we can just be shot if we attack people and so nobody wants to go out and protest.
It's like...
Good job.
Yeah, good.
Yeah, exactly.
Is that meant to be a bad thing?
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly what I want to hear.
So yeah, the moulding was intense and I enjoyed it.
Let's go for the next one.
Also leftist.
Everyone's racist except me.
Do these people hate themselves?
I love bass tapes.
Yeah.
The next day...
How does one get an education grade low enough to write for leftist media?
Wow.
I like you, Lloyd.
I always liked you.
We should work together.
Yeah, go give Bassnap a subscribe.
There was a question yesterday about 3D printed Gildo.
Oil guy asked me to show you this.
Oh, right.
3D printed Dickasaurus.
It's on eBay.
Thank you for lowering your tone.
Useful information.
Thanks for that.
Yeah.
So I did my stand-up show and a fellow launchers eater did me love!
Ah!
It went...
Well, which is why we're not showing any clips.
Hey, the fact that you did it for the first time is the important thing.
No one succeeds at anything on their first time.
I've heard loads of stand-up comedians talk about their early career, and basically it's just them getting heckled for like...
Months and months, yeah.
And then eventually they realise, okay, I can get used to this now.
And then they finally kind of come into their own.
So it's a lot of hard work, but well done for actually going out and doing it.
Two things.
Yesterday's discussion on the UK migrant crisis, perhaps the Lotus Eaters could do some short, pithy documentaries interviewing some of the migrants who came to the UK and regretted it and why they regret it and why it's such a bad idea and they're not really getting what they expected.
And the other thing, most important, the best part of Thanksgiving is the post-Thanksgiving Day turkey sandwich.
Do Americans not have turkey at Christmas?
It must do.
I thought it was, like, a universal thing.
Well, I mean, maybe they don't, I don't know.
But, uh, yeah, we have that on Boxing Day.
Yeah, we normally get it turned into a curry, the national English dish.
Yeah.
Okay, so this plug in my bedroom is original to the house, and it's gotten dangerously loose.
When you plug things in, it has a tendency to let them sit loose so that it exposes the live metal prongs.
So, I'm going to replace it.
My new plug has USB ports built into it so I don't need to use those USB bricks.
And it's also tamper-proof.
If you would like for me to give a more technical explanation of what a tamper-proof plug is, then I'd be happy to.
I mean, I'm curious.
I've actually, in my house, we got USB ports plugged into some of the things in the wall.
They're really useful.
Really, really useful.
Yeah, that's the future right there.
I didn't even realise they're a thing.
I need to get some now.
I feel a bit jealous.
How's it going, gents?
I'm on the plane and I'm going to San Diego Comic-Con.
I'm going to be selling all my books there.
I'm going to be driving on the opposite side of the road now.
Backwards.
Barbaric.
What?
Progressive.
That is awesome, man!
So if there are any guys who live in San Diego and are going to be there, look forward to seeing ya.
Yeah.
That's cool, man.
I hope you meet up with a bunch of people.
I love that guy on the Mario Kart.
He's living his best life.
Hey, awesome.
Thanks, man!
Hello, fellow Lotus Eaters.
Greetings from what is now, at least to Hamza Yusuf, the most racist country in the world, because it's all white.
That's a driven snow.
Just saying, I'm looking forward to the Zoom call today, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
Also, a friend of mine been to Kenya recently, and I got a shield.
Oh, nice.
That's an actual shield from Kenya, handmade and everything.
Pretty cool, huh?
As usual, the white man keeps taking more.
Have a wonderful day.
You too.
Yeah, my dad actually, when I was, I don't know, about 14 or something, he was in the RAF, he had to go somewhere, and he went somewhere in Africa and brought me back Spears and Shield.
I'm like, how the hell did you get this bag?
That's like the best present ever.
Yeah, yeah, it's currently in my parents' house where they live, in Cornwall.
But no, no, that's cool.
Yeah, the Zoom call will be at 4 o'clock, so we'll see you there.
That'll be cool.
Right, so, Paulie says, when I was touring the House of Commons, our guide warned us that sitting on the Commons benches was illegal unless we're an MP, so Stella Creasy's baby has no place there.
Yeah, Beau pointed that out as well.
Well, they're not allowed, only MPs are allowed in Parliament, so the baby isn't an MP. Even the Queen isn't allowed in the Commons.
Yeah, the Lords and the Queen aren't allowed in the Commons.
So, conversation over, you know.
And she can afford childcare, of course.
She's using her baby like a fashion accessory.
Yes, she is.
Heathcliff says, maybe bringing babies into Parliament will actually help normalise families' motherhood and general roles.
Well, it would if she was married.
But instead she's living in sin.
Reminds well as reminding us that MPs do have a responsibility to keep the country future generations instead of ravaging it to fill their pockets.
No, she's ravaging it to fill her pockets.
Base tape says, "There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that she brought the baby as a passive-aggressive provocation." Yes.
That's exactly why I covered it, yeah.
"She took in her baby and sat there waiting for her baby." Completely true.
Completely true.
It's insufferable, isn't it?
David said, "Political privileges, in my eyes, mums across the nation who don't take kids to work because they're going to work to do work.
I'm sorry, but why would we want the Commons to be interrupted by crying babies?
Like sitting in a daycare centre, surely they are there to represent us and should do so without constant distraction.
Besides, do they really have that much time on their hands that they are about as busy as a housewife/husband about a house with work to contend with?" Exactly.
Like, you know, sorry, this is just unacceptable.
It's a deliberate erosion of standards by a feminist.
What a surprise.
To be fair, I do disagree with Commons being interrupted by crying babies, because people did elect Nadia Whittam, and...
I think she has a right to at least speak.
And Zahra Sultana.
Yeah.
And a lot of other Labour MPs.
No, they actually should shut up.
Please do.
Yeah, no, they really should.
But hopefully people just stop voting for them.
Elliot says, check out Stella Creasy's wiki page.
Can we do that, John?
Her photo you can see at the top of her baby's head, even using that poor thing in her official photo.
God, I hate this stuff.
Like, what are you doing, Stella?
Stella Creasy.
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Look at the state of her as well.
I mean, Jesus.
And you wonder why she isn't married.
That's a low blow.
That's a low blow.
Talking about, Taffy says, talking about elected representatives, lol, they are selected, not elected.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
They're a big board of political elites who are deciding on what shortlist and who gets to stand for election.
Smaller parties with views not approved of voting.
Elites simply aren't allowed to be a party.
Well, they are allowed to be a party, but for some reason the British public just refuse to vote for anything that's not Labour and Conservative.
I don't know why.
It's also worth pointing out that she was elected on an all-women shortlist as well.
Of course she was.
Of course she was elected on an all-women shortlist.
She's a feminist.
Will says, Good point.
Edward says, Dear Miss Creasy, your sprog is unelected.
Considering how loud Parliament can get, and if they are, in fact, the perfect Christian ideal, mild, obedient, and good as he is, I suspect they will wake up when the jury begins, and it will, in fact, be disruptive.
Surrogate MP? Why not?
I don't know.
Hire a nanny?
Why is it less acceptable to hire a nanny than it is to have an unelected rando standing in your place?
Good point.
Drew says, Carl, all politicians are tax burdens.
Based.
Good point.
I'm going to move on slightly because there are other subjects.
St.
Floyd.
Thomas says, Yeah, exactly.
No one ever got to hear about George Floyd's girlfriend because she's white.
And, of course, that's the wrong race.
But again, when he's like, Mama, she was like, yeah, that's his nickname for me.
Weird.
Yeah, because his own mother had died like ten years earlier or something.
So, like, he's not crying for...
He's more likely he's crying for her rather than his own mum.
But there we go.
Kyle says, Our Floyd, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily fentanyl, and forgive us our knee presses, as we forgive those who press knees against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil police.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, forever and ever.
Our men and our women.
That's spectacular.
That's great, yeah.
Kyle, that is the best comment I've ever heard.
And yes, we now have the Floyd's Prayer.
Chet says, George Floyd, the patron saint of narcotic and the kindest man of vile repute.
George says, the Floyd imagery is the highest form of heresy and no Games Workshop doesn't own the word.
Although he did have to die for the sins of BLM, so there may be something to it.
Charlie says, regarding St.
Floyd, I know they say every saint was once a sinner and every sinner has a future, but at least they did some good to justify their elevation sainthood.
Exactly.
What did George Floyd do?
Nothing.
He bought a banana and did a funny dance and then scoffed a bunch of fentanyl and died and got loads of people killed.
30 people died in the George Floyd riots.
Everyone overlooks the fact that they just tried to ask him to get into the back of the police car and he asked them to put him on the ground and then when he was on the ground he was kicking them.
It's so ridiculous.
Duffy says St.
George of Fentanyl has performed miracles.
Cleansed cities with fire and brick.
Changed respiratory distress into a higher form of existence and sainted violent nonces.
Heaven's Gate seems reasonable compared to the Church of Floyd.
Justin says work does sound right like a religion.
It has the same thing that I don't like about any organized religion.
This is how things are.
Don't question it or else.
Yes, it does.
David again says that BLM mural could be a police line-up.
It was a police line-up.
Just at different points in time, but yeah, if it all lined up.
Henry says, air in your heart is a serious and deadly condition that can cause an embolism.
BLM should probably consult their local A&E if Floyd is breathing in their hearts.
But I think, isn't it?
I'm breathing in your heart.
It's like, what?
It's just a weird thing to say, isn't it?
It's cringe, isn't it?
Anyway...
Robert says, Communism, Nazism, Wokism are all bastardizations of Christianity.
Historian Tom Holland has a very good view on this subject.
Wokeness has inherited so much from Christianity, a spirit that descends and opens people's eyes, the denunciation of sin, raising the oppressed, but what it lacks is forgiveness and the fact that we're all sinners.
That's true.
Justin says, It doesn't matter when St.
Floyd is supposed to rise.
Timekeeping is white supremacy so he'll turn up when he feels like it.
Good point.
Carbohedric Crusader says, My favorite part of the Bible is when Jesus held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.
Yep.
In all honesty, though, the deification of scumbags is bizarre.
Seeing people giving pet names to nonces and being this way of actual scum of the earth is the literal embodiment of clown world.
Yeah, well, this is their primary constituency, the lumpenproletariat, the scum of the earth, who are willing to be the useful pawns of idiots.
Kevin says, George Floyd was Jesus.
In the case of Jesus, he died to forgive your sins.
George Floyd took the 21st century approach.
He committed all the sins so there were no sins you could commit.
These are great comments.
These are such good roasts.
Drew says, I was raised Catholic and still even follow some of the practices.
I've seen how the woke act.
This is a religion whether they want to admit it or not.
That's correct.
Chad Kuala says, I'm hoping Ghislaine Maxwell starts dropping the names of VIPs like bombs on Dresden.
She won't.
She won't.
She's expecting to get away with this.
If only to watch scores of moralising elites get knocked off their high horses and into the gutter.
I mean, that would be lovely, but it's not going to happen.
Although, with so many of those powerful people with a vested interest that is not happening, I'd be surprised if she lives long enough for that to happen, even with the added measures to protect her.
Oh, I think she knows she's going to get away with it.
She'll claim plausible deniability.
She'll say something like, Epstein made me do that.
The allegations are false, and then everyone will want that to be the case, everyone around her in high society.
Palms will be greased, and she'll be off memory hold.
I think at worst, for her, that is, she's going to get maybe a few years in prison and name no one.
Possibly in a suspended sentence of some sort, you know?
Anthony says, not many people know that Maxwell's father pushed peer review on scientific journals that didn't have it before.
Scientists used to work very differently before he got involved.
Epstein was funding scientists the old-fashioned way.
I didn't know that.
I do know that he was an Israeli agent.
He was a Mossad agent.
He slipped into the sea.
Ah, right.
One of those Epstein-style occasions.
Lots of people didn't kill themselves around this group of people.
It seems like it.
Excuse me.
Carbohedrit Crusader says, they've spent months dragging a 17-year-old's name through the murder of a public trial.
They don't care about the impurity of the case.
Social life is becoming rapidly more degenerate in just my 30 years.
That is the most BS excuse ever.
Yeah, again, just like, you know, Hollywood is the most disgusting, degenerate, porn-flooded, paedophile-flooded place in the world.
And they're like, oh, but the public's impure.
You know, the purity of the public's, I'll get out.
If the devil exists, he probably lives in LA. Doubtless.
Like, absolutely.
HR Slave says...
If the devil exists, he lives in LA. That's a good point.
Good line.
HR Slave says, one good aspect of the Epstein stuff is I like to think it woke up an awful lot of normies to the fact that the elites and their media friends are not to be trusted.
Hopefully.
David says, I want to see all the transcripts.
Elite cover-up in broad daylight.
I'm sure I've heard of former Vice President Biden promoting the judge just before the trial as well.
This will be a grave injustice if they get away with hiding all their comments.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah, the judge was up for promotion.
So it would have been Biden who did this.
Really?
Yeah.
That's really interesting, isn't it?
And interestingly, this can cause massive delays, because this is what happened in my case with...
I forgot her name.
Akilah.
That's it, Akilah, yeah.
Sorry, Akilah, you are important to me.
I didn't just forget you.
But yeah, this is what happened to the judge, and this is why it took so long, because the judge got promoted or something.
Anyway, and he took that case with him as well.
David says, am I cynical to think that anyone's sticking up for a child trafficker has something to hide?
No.
But then, protesting too much may look as such.
I bet all these people with more money than principal are absolutely terrified of being discovered.
Yeah, but they all know the fix is in.
That's why they're all like, oh, Ghislaine's so wonderful.
She's not going to dob us in.
And Ghislaine's like, hi, dearies.
And no one cares.
No one cares.
Saying Epstein killed himself because there's no video or logs is like saying Hillary did nothing wrong because of 30,000 emails she illegally kept on a private server were accidentally deleted.
Exactly.
Literally, oh well, I mean, if you don't have it, then it couldn't have happened.
It's like, really?
Oh no, I tripped and installed my obscured data-wiping software that specifically removed anything incriminating.
Whoopsie, my bad.
We see and remember what they're doing.
Just because we don't have the power to do anything doesn't mean there are five lights.
Good comment.
Yeah, good point.
Yeah.
And George says, regarding Carl's atheism, I was raised Anglican and went through the angry atheist period, which many on the left seem to be stuck in.
I'm curious if you were raised atheist and never experienced that emotional upheaval...
Related to the discovery that you've been lied to, a personal observation on objective truth claim.
Yeah, well, just finally, yeah, I was raised an atheist.
My parents weren't religious, and I don't think they were raised in a particularly religious way either.
So I never actually went through the angry atheist period.
It's just logically coherent that the Bible wasn't the received word of God and, you know, various inconsistencies and stuff like that.
But in my more mature years, I've come to realize who cares.
I don't care.
You know, this isn't a literal word of God, no kidding.
But there is still some use in it, as you can go and watch with the Wisdom of Proverbs podcast.
It's about retaining moral traditions rather than the literal truth.
And so that's why I'm no longer someone who wants to undermine religion, frankly.
And look where it got us.
A new religion popped up, because I think maybe humans are just religious creatures, whether they like it or not.
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