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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #146

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 3rd of June 2021.
	I'm joined by Carl, and today we're going to be talking about how Andy Ngo has been attacked in Portland by a group of, you guessed it, Antifa.
	The COVID fear-mongering has finally been exposed, and also that Darren Grimes smashed Paul Mason on LBC, which was good to watch.
	Yeah, you've got to give him some props, because he did a good job.
	Yeah, good guy.
	Anyway, first thing I wanted to mention here was an article from Josh that he's written on lollies.com, which is Bill Gates from Saving the World to Worldwide Infamy, because it's interesting, isn't it?
	Like, Bill Gates was Mr.
	Perfect right up until he got divorced, and now all of a sudden everyone's like, yeah, you know that relationship you have with Jeffrey Epstein?
	Yeah, he got thrown under the bus really, really quickly.
	I'm genuinely surprised how quickly.
	It's not like he still doesn't have billions and billions of dollars.
	So why would you want to alienate such a powerful and influential person?
	Almost instantly.
	And yeah, Jon's done a great job there, so it's a good premium analysis that's worth checking out.
	But also we recorded the Things Alex Jones Was Right About podcast, and that'll be up fairly soon-ish, I guess, whenever Jon's edited it.
	And that's another good reason to sign up and support us.
	Yeah, surprisingly quite a lot from Alex Jones turned out to be true.
	Disappointing, to be honest, because a lot of it was gross.
	Yeah, things you really didn't want to be true, like babies being brought by the US government and turned into organs for research.
	Yeah, not great.
	Anyway, so...
	Moving on to something...
	Well, it's not exactly a white ball.
	No, it's not good either.
	So Andy Ngo has been attacked in Portland, so he came over to the UK, essentially playing it, and also trying to set up somewhat of a life in the UK. I don't know if he's moving here or thinking about it or whatever.
	But he went back to Portland to go and have a look at the state of it and also to do some underground reporting because he is a journalist.
	This is his date job, you know.
	And he got attacked by them, Antifa, because, well, yeah.
	So you can see here him giving a statement.
	so statement on may 28th 2021 antifa assault no journalist in america should ever face violence for doing his or her job yet on friday may 28th antifa tried to kill me again whilst i was reporting on the ongoing protests and riots in portland oregon for a new chapter of my book antifa inside antifa's radical plan to destroy democracy in case you're wondering previous book I don't know.
	Antifa Unmasked.
	We did a book club on this.
	Andy came into the studio to do a book club with us.
	A piece of premium content.
	People should go check it out.
	Otherwise, you should buy the book and give it a read if you want to know anything about Antifa and their inner workings.
	One of the most interesting things, because this is essentially a journalistic piece that Andy wrote, in which he documents their beliefs, their actions, so on and so forth.
	And the interesting part about their belief section is that...
	They honestly know that the people they're attacking are just liberals.
	They know they're not fascists.
	They know they're not Nazis.
	They point it out in their own internal texts, which they have for required reading at, like, level 3 or whatever it is.
	And they don't care.
	They're just open liars.
	Sure, but you've got to remember that the communists hate liberal democracy as much as the fascists hate liberal democracy.
	So anyone who's supportive of liberal democracy, like Andy Ngo, is treated much the same as any other enemy.
	Sure, but the point of that being that when they say to a liberal, you're a fascist, you're a Nazi, it's not just they're morons and they're like, yeah, everything to the right of me is Nazism.
	They understand the differences and they just lie.
	They're just open liars.
	Anyway, go and give it a read if you haven't.
	It's a great book.
	Someone I was speaking to yesterday actually said he gave it to a police and crime commissioner in the Conservatives, and it flipped him and made him much more base and red-pilled on the issue of Antifa, so good work there.
	Anyway, so Andy says, I was chased, attacked, and beaten by a masked mob, baying for my blood.
	Had I not been able to shelter wounded and bleeding inside a hotel while they beat the doors and windows like animals?
	There is no doubt in my mind that I would not be here today.
	Antipar wants me dead because I document what they want to stay hidden.
	The attacks against me and threats on my life are retribution for my work as a journalist, recording the tactics and true ideology of the extremist clandestine movement that relies on deception and regards the truth as the greatest threat of all.
	Certainly do.
	I mean, correct analysis from Andy there.
	Yeah, I mean, they're domestic terrorists and they've just assaulted a journalist and that's...
	Well, you don't need any more proof of it.
	No.
	If you do want more proof of it, some black and white, you can go give it a read.
	I mean, there's plenty of video evidence as well.
	Anyone still saying that anti-fart just means anti-fascist and whatnot is just being dishonest.
	Wasting your time.
	Well, they might be an idiot, but either way...
	A real level of electricity required.
	Yeah.
	So, the story in and of itself, I don't know which link we're on here, but the story is him saying, shortly before midnight, anti-fire attacker John Hacker, who assaulted me in 2019, began asking me questions.
	So, Andy went down as a journalist with a mask and whatnot to spare his identity just to get the details for his new journalist.
	Can we scroll down and see that guy's face, John?
	Yeah, he's not winning the lottery of life.
	Jesus Christ.
	That chap.
	So this is the guy who assaulted Andy in 2019 and then was questioning him, as he says.
	Okay.
	So after he refused to answer the questions, he says, I didn't answer and attempted to walk away, but a group of masked people in black followed and surrounded me.
	As they interrogated me, one managed to pull off my mask and immediately yelled, That's Andy!
	Get him!
	Get him!
	Hmm.
	As I sprinted through downtown Portland trying to flag down help, there was no visible police presence.
	At Southwest 4th Avenue and Southwest Morrison, one of the black-clad antifa members tackled me to the ground in front of the Pioneer Place Mall, punching me in the face and repeatedly, whilst I pleaded with them not to kill me.
	All the time I could hear angry cries and footsteps of the mob approaching.
	In the chaos, I managed to seize a moment when my attackers were distracted and crawled away.
	As soon as I could get to my feet, I sprinted inside the only business I could see that was open, the Nines Hotel.
	And we have video evidence to back this up, and he's not just spinning lies as Antifar would have you tell, because we've got the video evidence from them, Antifar filmed themselves, being awful.
	Yeah, because they're proud of this.
	Yeah, I mean, this is their glorious revolution.
	So we go to the first clip here.
	This should just be the hotel footage, so we can see all this.
	No idea what's happening.
	You need to get off my property right now.
	Okay, Holocaust tonight.
	I can't wait for you to come out, Andy.
	You thought the milkshakes were bad last time?
	We're gonna beat the out of you.
	Y'all, Andy knows here at the Nines Hotel.
	Nazi, stop!
	You see that face, Andy?
	Andy!
	You see my face?
	You see?
	My face!
	Come on Andy!
	- You guys are hiding behind the door. - Oh, you're going to be a f*ing hell. - Fuck you! - You're going to be a fing hell. - You're going to be a fing hell. - You're going to be a fing hell. - You're going to be a fing hell. - You're going to be you're going to be a fing hell. - Fuck you! - You're going to be a fing hell. - You're going to be a fing hell. - You're going to be a f**ing hell. - You're going to
	So terrorism by communist radicals who are doing it openly on the street because they know that there will be no consequences for them doing this.
	They even take their masks off, they see our faces, they are people who literally want to kill him because of his political beliefs.
	This is what Portland has allowed to become radicalised in their city.
	I mean, even in this instance, it's not even his beliefs.
	Sorry, I can't bring it up, but it's important.
	In here, he doesn't actually note his political beliefs.
	He essentially puts down, this is what they've done, and tries to detach himself as much as possible because he wants to be a piece of journalistic work.
	And these chaps here, I actually recognize a few of them from when he was launching his book.
	He went down to the local bookstore and made sure the bookstore closed.
	They terrorized them because they printed a book that they didn't like and then had it canceled from that bookstore.
	A real communist terrorist.
	And the police seem to do their jobs in arresting them, but when they get to the police station, they get released with bail that's paid for.
	My organization's like the one Kamala Harris retweeted.
	Or they just let go because the people in charge of law and justice in Portland, I don't know, were smoking crack or smoking Democrat propaganda.
	Anyway, so Andy says, God, you love COVID, don't you?
	I insisted, reminding them that there was a violent mob outside seeking to kill me.
	So you can see those clips where the security there had their phones out.
	Presumably they realised, yeah, there's a mob of terrorist communists outside.
	I then did call the police.
	And then we can see the police turning up.
	So if we can get the next clip, it's just the police turning up and protecting Andy.
	Stay back!
	Back up.
	Come on, big boy.
	Which one of you guys are going to say, I'm here to protect Andy?
	No.
	Say, I'm here to protect Andy.
	No.
	Say it!
	You already hate the cops.
	This is not a secret.
	Like, you know, cops turn up and Andy fire like, oh, thank goodness.
	Yeah.
	One of the interesting things, he went on and on there.
	I've clipped it down because of the repetitiveness of him shouting, you want to protect Andy?
	No.
	But one of the cops actually just starts laughing.
	Because it's just like, I'm so sick of you people.
	I mean, if you work in the Portland Police Department, oh, good God.
	I mean, you must have the patience of a saint to keep doing that job.
	I mean, after the last two years, especially.
	I mean, the last four, considering Portland, to be honest.
	So, the Portland Police Bureau has a long history of protecting fascists and right-wing extremists and making up lies.
	Ah, yes.
	It's certainly not the fact that communists are just threatening everyone and they're definitely telling the truth.
	Like, you guys tackled Andy, beat him up, he managed to get away, gets into a hotel, you're banging on the window saying, we're gonna effing get you, we're gonna beat the shit, the S out of you, Andy, no.
	And then the police turn up to stop you from engaging in murder.
	And you're like, yeah, you're the fascist, the police here.
	It's so comical.
	I know it's a bit repetitive with Portland, but...
	Well, this is just how bad it is, though.
	They're just on the streets, literally saying that they're going to kill someone, and it's just not dealt with.
	No.
	I mean, Andy has done nothing wrong.
	His crime is literally just documenting what Antifa believes.
	He has primary documents and says, here it is.
	This is their beliefs.
	This is what they hand out at the internal meetings.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's all he's done.
	Yeah.
	Showing them what they call themselves.
	Anyway, so if we go to the next link, it should be Andy Ngo saying he was treated in the ER for multiple injuries, as he'd done previously.
	As you can see from the pictures there, again, not lying.
	I mean, Andy consistently truthful, Antifa consistently liars.
	You can see the blood from where he's been punched.
	You can see his eye there.
	Yeah.
	Blood net, bruises.
	Yeah, I mean, the story checks out.
	Surprise, surprise.
	Sorry.
	He's only lucky it wasn't worse.
	Andy, if you're watching, this is horrible to see.
	I hope he's alright.
	I'm sure he's out of Portland now.
	This is what happens if you're a journalist and you cover Antifa.
	They will come and attack you.
	But only if you're a certain kind of journalist.
	Sure, but I think that Andy has pretty much got to admit now that he's too famous to be doing this.
	He's recognisable.
	They've recognised him.
	They keep mistaking other Korean men and East Asian men for him, and he's going to have to get agents to act on his behalf and go in there and record and document instead of him.
	He's too obvious a target for them now.
	Yeah, I mean, he notes in here, I think, during the same time period, some other Asian journalist was also assaulted for being Asian, and therefore, I don't know, he was killed by association to Andy.
	Yes.
	And apparently that hadn't been the first time this had happened to him.
	Poor guy.
	No.
	Although, Andy's got a history of, you know, running towards the fire, so to speak.
	Like, he wants to find the truth.
	I mean, it's really admirable.
	Like, for example, one of the scenes in the book is...
	What is it?
	Chaz in Seattle?
	I think that might be the right one.
	Anyway, it's one of these autonomous zones, the big one, and he goes up and he masks up, makes sure he's all covered, and then spent time there filming after being told by the police department if you're in trouble there, we're not going to come in.
	Like, you have to leave and then we'll assist you.
	But if you're dead...
	I mean, it's very brave, but it's also a bit foolhardy at this point, I think.
	It's just too dangerous.
	They did find him.
	So he notes in here that he found one of the anti-fire people there who had previously given him a death threat when he was covering Portland, and they were walking around with a rifle and a pistol, and he was like, right, okay, I'm going to screw it up.
	And then eventually, at one scene, his mask gets torn off, and then they realize it's him, and he just sprints out of there.
	Because, I mean, you're a dead man if you don't.
	What are your options there?
	Yeah.
	So, but as I mentioned, this only happens if you're a certain kind of journalist.
	A journalist journalist.
	Not a journo.
	Not these scumbags who just write articles attacking people every day for being politically incorrect against the left.
	So, this is an example of this here.
	So, if you can click on the first image here, this guy, Aaron Gupta, is a perfect example of this.
	Portland's Andy Ngo is the most dangerous grifter in America by Aaron Grupta for Jacobin Magazine, in which he just winds on and on about how anyone who says that communism's bad is far right.
	And if you go to the next link here, this is him talking about it.
	Andy Ngo effed around and found out after him being beaten up in Portland.
	What a great guy.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Definitely not the sort of people who are a threat to democracy.
	Yeah.
	From an operational standpoint, how do you let Milkshake Andy escape after you've tackled him and have him to the ground?
	So he's disappointed that they weren't able to murder him?
	They only managed to beat him up, they only managed to give him some bruises.
	Why not kill him?
	And Amy's right, this is unconscionable.
	They're not messing around.
	They are literally dangerous communist revolutionaries who will kill their political opponents.
	I mean, when they tell you, believe them.
	Yeah.
	It's not difficult.
	I mean, Andy notes as well on a different slide I didn't actually have up, but it's the thumbnail for this stream, in which people have written, you know, murder Andy Noe, kill Andy Noe.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's graffiti all over the place, because he's dead to point out what they are.
	So, as you can see here, beacon of weapon of mass destruction, coming to the new press, words, writes for Washington Post, Daily Beast, Guardian, Intercept, Roll Story, Yes, The Times, Progressive Jackman.
	Exactly the kind of places I'd expect him to write for, in fact.
	Yeah, these disgusting communists.
	It's really evil.
	I mean, to watch someone be beaten in the streets...
	I mean, you're a...
	I was about to say your own kind as in a fellow journalist, but he's not, is he?
	This is a propagandist.
	Andy's a journalist.
	Yeah, these are communist agitators.
	These are revolutionaries, and they know that they're revolutionaries, and they're very proud, and they always say revolution, revolution is just the word they use the most.
	They hate liberal democracy.
	They hate anyone who doesn't agree with them, and if someone goes to the extent that Andy has of exposing what they are, then they'll pathologize them and treat them as if they deserve to be killed.
	Yeah.
	Some of the most pathetic things I've seen as counters to Andy, most of his Twitter account these days, this is probably his work that he's most proud of, in black and white.
	But his Twitter account is a fantastic account, and his other social medias as well, in which he just documents, like, someone's taken some footage down in Portland, and he just retweets it and says, this happened, right?
	Yeah, it's just a factual statement, all of his tweets.
	It's not like me, I editorialize all the time.
	Yeah, leftist scum do this.
	Exactly.
	Not Antifar do this.
	He doesn't do that.
	And I've seen people in the comments, like leftists, saying, man, I wouldn't trust this propaganda footage from Andy Ngo.
	And it's like, what do you mean?
	You took it.
	But it's like, it's video footage of a man who's covered in communist symbols beating up man who is, you know, not covered in any political symbols.
	And you're like, yeah, that's propaganda footage.
	Yes.
	This makes us look bad.
	Yeah, this was staged.
	I don't know, they're all crisis actors.
	I mean, is that their opinion?
	It's utterly pathetic.
	The people in Portland who have been able to get away with this for years now is unconscionable.
	And I really hope Mandy's alright, because that's absolutely horrible.
	And it's not like there haven't been other Antifa shootings and attempted murders.
	Well, successful murders.
	Yeah, actual murders and attempted murders.
	The worst one being the Trump supporter.
	Yeah, Daniel Aronson.
	Trump cap, Antifa guy, came out with a gun, shot him, killed him.
	Then, immediately after, Vice was like, would you like to do an interview?
	Would you like to come tell your side of the story to the killer?
	And then he gives an interview in which he's like, yeah, it's self-defense.
	And this is why Kyle Rittenhouse is being treated as if he's a villain, because he was being attacked by a group of Antifa paedophiles.
	But yeah, you have an example of the killer in Portland who was hiding behind a pole, came out, shot the guy, and was like, yes, but I'm the victim.
	I was acting in self-defense.
	It was like, right, why does none of the video evidence show that?
	And then he ended his life in a shootout with the police a couple of days later.
	The police dragged him down, he pulled a gun, so they shot him to death.
	There we go.
	Okay, maybe, but it seems that we've really solved the problem of the coronavirus here.
	So this is just the latest COVID data.
	660,000 tests a day, with 4,000 positive results a day.
	So an absolute tiny fraction of the people being tested are being tested as positive, with 120 patients admitted to hospital a day.
	So in the last week, it's not even 1,000 people in hospital because of COVID. And there have been 46 deaths in the last seven days.
	And in fact, this meant that on one day a couple of days ago, there were zero COVID deaths in all of England.
	So, like, 50, 60 million people, something like that, living in England.
	Zero people on Monday died of COVID, I think it was.
	Well, the 2nd of June, so Tuesday, I think, on the moment.
	So yeah, this was, you know, on the same day, Wales announced four deaths.
	So it was a slight increase over the two deaths that were recorded the previous day.
	But as you can see, this is, you can see by the graphs here, this is just over, right?
	And if we can get to the BBC one, they've got the graph, you can scroll down a bit, John, so we can see the COVID levels.
	So here we are.
	So stage of outbreak.
	Risk of healthcare services being overwhelmed?
	No.
	So transmission is high or rising exponentially?
	No.
	Viruses in general circulation?
	No.
	Number of cases and transmissions is low?
	Yes.
	And COVID-19 is no longer present in the UK? Well, nearly, very nearly at that sort of point, actually.
	So we can see that this is just...
	You know, I'm not trying to take a side, but it seems like the vaccination program worked, right?
	It seems like millions of people got vaccinated, COVID just fell off a cliff, problem solved.
	As you would expect.
	As you would expect if the vaccine works, which it seems to have done.
	You've got the stages of outbreak, and then you've got the government's own recommendations of what should be happening.
	So, I mean, what are we still at?
	I think extremely strict social distancing.
	I mean, we're still doing that.
	We're still wearing masks.
	There has been a gradual relaxation of restrictions, but I don't think we're actually at stage two yet.
	We'll get to that.
	More social distancing.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, so there was an interesting article in The Telegraph that went through the Office of National Statistics data and discovered that nearly 40% of recently registered COVID deaths in England and Wales were people who died primarily from something else.
	So they're people who merely tested positive for COVID, which means presumably they were kind of asymptomatic or this was not the primary means of them dying.
	So it wasn't the lethal factor.
	So out of 107 COVID deaths in the past week, 66 of them had coronavirus recorded as the underlying cause of death.
	61%.
	So for the rest of them, it was just other cause, which was the major cause of death.
	And this is the lowest number of deaths since March 2020.
	This is unbelievably good news.
	Almost half of the coronavirus deaths aren't from the coronavirus.
	Even less scary, isn't it?
	Yeah, it's good news.
	Yeah, it's good news.
	It seems to be, you know, very, very...
	It wasn't as bad as we thought.
	Yeah, as Professor Kevin McConway, the emeritus professor of applied statistics at the end of university said, it's very positive.
	In most recent week, you know, almost half didn't have the underlying cause of death as COVID. I just noticed something there.
	If you can scroll back up to just above there, you can see the ONS continues to include those who did not primarily die from COVID in official statistics, even though the World Health Organization has issued guidance that they should not be classified as COVID deaths.
	Yeah, I was about to get to that.
	In fact, yes.
	So, yeah.
	Because I have to wonder where social media stands on this.
	Yes.
	Because they have a standard, which is you can't contradict your local authority or World Health Organization, but what if they disagree?
	Well, exactly.
	Exactly.
	And what's interesting as well is that the government is recording flu deaths as well as COVID deaths in the same category.
	So there might not be COVID, there might be flu as well.
	I assume the WHO there also says don't do that.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to check.
	But that's the point.
	They're not following the World Health Organization guidelines.
	Don't know what we're supposed to take from this.
	But anyway, this doesn't matter because the media has decided, well, actually, we were getting a lot of clicks out of COVID. We were getting a lot of respect.
	People were paying attention to us.
	And so zero deaths but warning signals, say The Guardian.
	Warning signals.
	Warning signals.
	Everything's going great.
	Nobody's dying.
	That's worrying.
	Here's why you should be afraid.
	They say the COVID dashboard may be flashing zero deaths today, but it's also flashing warning signals there may be trouble ahead.
	The number of COVID infections is always the first figure to rise.
	The COVID infections have risen by about a thousand.
	Over the entire country.
	That is, I guess, a warning signal, but it's a very, very small warning signal.
	An incredibly tiny warning signal that doesn't really warrant an article about it, especially when the deaths are going down in comparison.
	But they say, you know, the rollout of the vaccine programme may have severed the link between infections and deaths.
	In theory, it could, and that's the hope.
	Once enough, people are vaccinated.
	Scientists are warning of a third wave already.
	There may be reasons to be seriously doubtful that there won't be.
	Seriously doubtful that we should be optimistic, is what they're trying to say.
	Because Public Health England found that one shot of the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine is only about 33% effective against symptomatic disease from the Delta variant.
	Oh yeah, by the way, they've stopped classifying them as the names of the places where they originate now.
	Is that the Indian one?
	I don't know.
	I didn't bother memorising them.
	Or is it the Chinese one?
	The Chinese one is the Alpha variant.
	50% effectiveness against that.
	I assume the Delta variant is the Indian one.
	Oh, yeah, no, it is.
	In fact, I've got it in my notes just here.
	And so, yeah, we'll go to the next part.
	A bunch of pathetic individuals.
	Yes, because now we're talking about the Indian variant, otherwise known as the Delta variant, which accounts for at least half of the cases in 67 of England's 315 local authorities.
	But it's not killing anyone, as far as we can tell, and not significantly any more than the other variants anyway.
	But that doesn't matter.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Is a third wave underway in the UK? See, there's this spamming constantly to make you think that there's some dramatic third wave going on, but the evidence doesn't imply that at all.
	Boris Johnson is under increasing pressure to delay the final easing of lockdown restrictions in the UK on the 21st of June amid mounting concern over the spread of the Indian variant of the coronavirus.
	Excuse me, that's the Delta variant, you racist.
	What about the Kent variant?
	Are they still calling it the Kent variant?
	Oh, that's very anglophobic.
	The new strain of COVID-19 causes cases to uptick in the northwest of England, parts of the Midlands and London during May, prompting fears of the Prime Minister pressing ahead with his roadmap to bring an end to precautionary measures could have disastrous consequences.
	You may well be afraid of that, but it doesn't really look like that's going to happen.
	Third wave could delay reopening, say, sky.
	It's every single one of these media outlets.
	Scientists warn that there could be a third wave that would be substantially larger if variants of concern comparable to the Kent one emerge.
	So they are still using the Kent.
	They are still using the Kent one.
	But the Kent one didn't have a massive body count attached to it.
	It was just more infectious.
	It was no different to the other variants in its lethality, though, as far as we can tell.
	But a third coronavirus wave could happen in late summer or autumn if the next step out of lockdown continues planned.
	Scientists advising the government of Ward don't care.
	Just don't care.
	Modelling by Imperial College London's COVID response team found there could be a small wave of hospital admissions, about 9,000 additional deaths by June 2022, if steps three and four of the roadmap continues planned.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	That seems within reasonable levels of tolerance.
	Like, the whole point of lockdowns is to not go over NHS capacity.
	Yes.
	It's nothing else.
	And the NHS is way below capacity.
	Exactly.
	If they're saying it's a small wave of what would be within NHS capacity, then there's no argument.
	There's no need to restrict anything.
	Yeah, this was in the 13th census.
	Yes, that's true.
	They've been doing this for a little while now.
	But yeah, like I said, 120 patients admitted to hospital.
	This is just not an issue now.
	But yeah, anyway, so given the high vaccine uptake, most deaths are predicted to occur in vaccinated individuals because of imperfect vaccine efficacy.
	So you'll be getting your 300th shot of the vaccine by the end of this.
	Well, it's not 100%, so have another one, have another one, have another one, because you just don't know what else to do.
	The idea of just living with it because it's just a part of life now is, I guess, off the table for people who feel that they have control over everything in the world.
	Last I saw, we had 55% of this country is vaccinated.
	Yeah, it is some of that.
	But you'd think they'd have more pride in this, wouldn't they?
	Yeah, you'd think they'd be like, look how good this is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	England, Britain has conquered the coronavirus.
	Is the other way of looking at this?
	Or be afraid of what might happen in the future?
	Yeah, well, that's...
	They're constantly afraid of what might happen in the future.
	And I do think it comes from a position where they literally think they are the masters of the universe.
	They come from a position where they think, well I'm a scientist, I've got control over nature, and therefore everything should be in my control.
	And if I don't have control of it, I'm deeply afraid of it.
	But anyway, the next one from Guardian.
	If a third wave happens, we'll have to remain logged down.
	Say experts.
	Don't care.
	No, don't care.
	You literally just said in the other article that it would be a small wave.
	Yep, don't care.
	And then the next one on Sky.
	Oh, we'll have to change the travel list.
	You know, you don't know where you'll be able to go.
	Yep.
	Except for anyone who knows where they're going at the moment.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, I have no idea.
	The list keeps changing and things keep added and removed and I just don't care.
	Okay, I'm not going to leave.
	I understand that I'm a prisoner in this country now because you're afraid.
	I get it.
	The NHS is under no particular danger.
	All of the vulnerable people have been vaccinated.
	Most of the vulnerable people have been vaccinated twice now, but you still live in complete and abject fear.
	And it's fear, if we can go to the next one, of foreign variants.
	The Indian variant is apparently spreading more rapidly than the South African or Brazilian variant.
	Don't care.
	Scroll down a bit if you want to see the graph, John.
	A bit more, a bit more.
	There was a graph, I thought.
	Okay, I thought there was a graph, but maybe it's that picture that hasn't loaded.
	But anyway, the Indian variant apparently came from people travelling from India, and the hilarious response from this, from the left, was, I can't believe Boris Johnson's left the borders open.
	I can't believe you want closed borders.
	Carry on.
	That's right, yes.
	WTF, I love that.
	Yes, as far as you're concerned, the Indians are diseased and we should close the borders.
	Or coronavirus just isn't that big a deal now.
	We've conquered it.
	We've solved the problem.
	But anyway, yeah.
	So the Indian variant, they think, is going to essentially conquer the other coronaviruses in the country because it's just more transmissible.
	And experts have already said that it's a straight race between the speed of the spread of the variant and the speed at which the UK is vaccinating people.
	But the UK has vaccinated all of the vulnerable twice.
	I thought the vaccines worked, you bunch of anti-vaxxers.
	But anyway, as you can see, the papers the other day were just spamming this crap.
	If we can get the next one up, John, we can just scroll down and you see all the headlines.
	And this is, the reason this is important, because this is what people see in the newsstand.
	So they're not necessarily reading the news, but they'll walk past the newsstand and see the headlines.
	And that is the general impression they'll take away.
	Yeah, you glide your eyes over and look at that and go, oh no.
	And so the Telegraph give third world extra jabs to the hot variants.
	But if you go down, you see the left wing papers.
	Scroll down a bit more.
	Third wave alert from Metro.
	Thank you.
	That's responsible.
	That's the free one as well.
	That's not wild fear-mongering.
	Scientists demand rethink on June 21st to end lockdown.
	Don't care.
	I don't take orders from scientists.
	You know, what are you talking about?
	Who gave these people authority?
	Go get your jabs from the sun, which I guess, to be honest, is probably the most responsible one at this point.
	If we can go down, is there another one below?
	Yeah, Daily Mail.
	Now end the holiday COVID test rip-off.
	Okay, good.
	Daily Mail doing something useful for once.
	But yeah, so let's go on to the vaccination percentage.
	If we can go to the next one.
	So far, over 39 million people have had their first dose, which is 75% of the adult population, and 26 million have had the second.
	So everyone, everyone within the range of, within any state of risk, the delivery of the second doses to over 50 has been accelerated in response to the Indian variant.
	The problem now is, as you've probably experienced in the United States and Canada and elsewhere, is people just not wanting the vaccination because they don't feel that they're personally at risk.
	Because they personally might be quite fit and healthy and maybe they have had a COVID or something like this.
	And they're just like, well, I'm just not that bothered about it.
	It's not going to be a threat to me, so I'm not going to bother getting the vaccine.
	And that's why you've got Bill de Blasio sat in there going, well, if you get your vaccine, you can have a free McDonald's with it and stuff like that.
	It's like, really, we're promoting McDonald's now, are we?
	It was Shake Shack.
	Oh, sorry, Shake Shack.
	It's so dumb.
	It's like the number one thing everyone suddenly realizes, hang on, like being obese is the worst thing you can have in relation to the coronavirus.
	Yeah, so have junk food.
	Get the vaccine and have some junk food.
	Wow.
	Americans.
	Like, there's something beautiful about them.
	Yeah, but I mean, it was also...
	So irresponsible.
	It was also so cringe as well.
	It was such hello fellow kids.
	I'm just going to sit here eating my burger to try and get you...
	And that's putting me off.
	And I have to say, I mean, if you've got 75% of the population here vaccinated, I mean, what are you down to?
	20-year-olds?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, 30-year-olds now.
	30-year-olds and above.
	Exactly.
	I mean, no wonder you're having a tough time.
	Yeah, because they don't need it.
	They're not at any risk from the coronavirus.
	There are more risks probably going and driving to the place to get the jab than they are from the coronavirus itself.
	The journey there is probably more dangerous.
	I don't know the numbers, but if you're, you know, in your 80s, 60s, we've seen the statistics, it's like 20% chance of death, right?
	Yeah.
	But you get down to the 20s, it's like...
	Well, when you're in your mid-80s, it's 20% chance.
	Yeah, something like that.
	But when you get down to, like, your 20s and whatnot, it's...
	0.001 something.
	It's like, well...
	And the thing is, though, the way...
	The problem with looking at statistics and things like this is it gives you a faulty map of reality as well.
	Because if you go, well, if there's a 1% chance that 50-year-olds can die from the coronavirus, yes, but who are you?
	You specifically, are you someone who's fit and healthy and you've got a good immune system?
	Then you've got a 0% chance.
	So you can't just be like...
	Well, not zero.
	Well, you know what I mean.
	Essentially a 0% chance.
	But the point is, the chance becomes so negligible, you may as well worry about falling down the stairs or something.
	That should occupy more of your time because it's more likely to happen to you.
	Getting struck by lightning becomes more likely to happen to you.
	And so it's, you know, if you're a healthy person, don't worry about it.
	And if you're not that healthy, you don't have to be like, you know, an athlete.
	But anyway...
	So, yeah, so an average of more than 350,000 second doses now are being given today.
	So good.
	I guess the vaccine rollout worked.
	Everything seems to have worked.
	Unbelievably, this did well, as we've spoken about before.
	But for some reason, and I think this is down to the hysteria in the media and the hysteria in Westminster, the sort of Westminster bubble hysteria.
	That has been gripped by the fear and this is being pushed by the media and the scientists who I think really are acting from a position of this gives us authority so we don't want to give it up.
	They've persuaded NHS staff to beg for better protective equipment.
	Now I find this amusing because it kind of dovetails in with Fauci going well masks don't really stop it from transmitting.
	The more than 20 healthcare organisations representing doctors, nurses, surgeons and therapists are meeting officials from all four UK nations to plead for better protection from coronavirus.
	Why?
	What's the point?
	No one's dying from it.
	You're not at risk.
	Very.
	Are they also asking for better protection from the bubonic plague?
	No, no, which is presumably scarier.
	They say that current guidance on kits leave them vulnerable to infection through the air, particularly new variants, and want better masks that can filter out aerosols carrying the virus.
	It's not because the NHS staff are dropping like flies.
	They're not.
	It's just, I think, out of fear.
	I think this is all in their heads.
	All from the media, all from the current environment they're in.
	When you're in the NHS and you've got these signs all over the place, be wary of COVID, be wary of COVID, COVID this, COVID that, COVID the other, that's all they think about.
	I think it's doing this to them like that.
	But the government, of course, has to do something, and so they're like, oh, maybe we can make vaccinations compulsory to work at the NHS. NHS staff could legally be required to have a COVID vaccine under plans to crack down on transmission of the virus within hospitals.
	If you want to work as a nurse, and they've got a nice monopoly on this, they're going to force you to have the vaccine.
	Boy, I love government control.
	I love government control.
	As the government also prepares to press ahead with plans to oblige care home workers to be vaccinated, again, oblige them.
	Force them.
	You either get vaccinated or you get fired.
	Ministers are understood to believe that changing the law to apply the requirement to doctors and nurses as well would save lives.
	How do they believe that, do they?
	Which lives?
	Whose lives?
	Zero people died in England the other day.
	Lives saved.
	God damn it.
	Lives saved.
	Like, this is...
	I should have got people dying on the toilet or something.
	Those statistics.
	How many people a day die in the shower?
	You know?
	Because I bet it's a couple.
	I bet it's a couple of people every day slip and fall and crack their head in the shower.
	Any other disease?
	Yeah.
	I don't want to even talk about any other disease.
	Because apparently...
	Did I skip over that?
	I think I might have.
	I must have skipped over it, but right, so, oh yeah, I did, right.
	So, don't worry about getting the link up, John.
	I'll just read from the standard.
	So, at its peak, right, the deaths from COVID, at the peak of the second wave in January 29th, 2021, it was 45% of deaths were considered to be primary cause COVID. That is now 1.1% of deaths registered in the week.
	1.1 are primarily COVID. 1.1 deaths in any given week right now.
	Percent.
	In the weekend in 21st of May, out of the 107 deaths.
	There are a lot of other things killing people.
	Yes.
	1.1% of things are killing people as COVID. Yeah, 98.9% of deaths are other causes.
	At the peak it was 45%, now it's 98 knots.
	So it's one of those things where it's like, okay, so this hysteria is just not justified by the statistics that we have.
	It's not.
	And then going, well, we need to compulsorily vaccinate people to save lives.
	The lives have been saved.
	The people who are vulnerable got their vaccinations and their lives have been saved.
	You can calm down.
	De-arm, de-escalate.
	You don't need to consider yourselves to be at war with the virus now because you've won.
	This is what a victory looks like.
	Under the plans, having the COVID vaccine could become a condition of employment by the NHS. Mad.
	Absolutely mad.
	And apparently we hear from YouGov a lot on whether people are in favour of vaccine passports or not.
	Now, I just want to preface this by saying YouGov is an online polling site, and it means that it gets a huge amount of self-selection.
	And my wife signs up for this, and she gets some very interesting requests to do polls, but she never gets anything political.
	And I'm guessing it's because she once did a political one, and it wasn't very favourable to the left.
	I'm signed up as well.
	I think most people should sign up because this is what gets put in front of MPs and actually does convince them of things.
	So if we could rate it.
	Go sign up to it.
	Go and make sure that you give them the red pill dancers and hopefully this will start changing because apparently 71% of Britain's support This was a survey of fewer than 2,000 people.
	Again, all self-selected on YouGov, which seems to have a dramatic left-wing bias and sort of like organizational control bias, I guess we can call it, the sort of managerial bias.
	Just go out with a clipboard and ask that question.
	You won't get 71%.
	Exactly.
	I'm telling you, I'm tempted for us to do that in town.
	Are you in favor of mandatory vaccine passports?
	Yes or no?
	Just any vaccine passports.
	However they framed the question, we'll find out and we'll go and ask people.
	But anyway, yeah, So this is something that YouGov's polls always come out with.
	Findings from YouGov, one of the UK's large pollsters, which is founded by a now-conservative vaccine minister, has consistently found in its polls that people in the UK support more and harsher coronavirus lockdown measures.
	I mean, I don't see it in my daily life.
	I don't know anyone who's in favor of harsher lockdown measures.
	I've never met anyone who's like, yeah, oh, God, we have to lock down or else.
	But the polling is...
	You don't see any of the chat online.
	You don't see it on the media from people calling up.
	You only see it from pundits.
	And the sort of, like, swarm of little Twitter followers that they have.
	But that's a very, very small, self-selected group of people.
	They're all activists.
	So yeah, so just to summarize, I don't think that the current fear of the coronavirus is warranted at all.
	It seems that the vaccinations have done the job, and there appears to be no particular indications other than a mild, and it's such a mild increase in the raw number of people who are testing positive.
	I mean, it's less than 5,000 people.
	It's such a small number.
	Zero people died.
	It's just not justified.
	And yet they've got to the point where they're like, oh, we're going to have mandatory vaccinations for people and vaccine passports and all this sort of stuff.
	We need a third lockdown.
	I mean, that's the worst thing.
	There's a third wave coming.
	We need another lockdown.
	Exactly.
	The scientists are taking advantage at this point.
	I can't remember the chap's name, but I think it was High Court Justice who just likes to go on Julie Hartleyborough and talk about this.
	And he's absolutely right, because he keeps bringing up, remember what the whole point of the lockdown policy was.
	Protect the NHS. NHS. Capacity's going to be overwhelmed, and we'll have unnecessary deaths.
	So we'll lock down, and we won't get to that point.
	And now they're like, yeah, we'll have a rise.
	It won't overwhelm the NHS, but we still need to lock down.
	Why?
	What's the argument?
	Zero people died.
	Protect lives.
	Well, we are.
	Zero people died.
	You couldn't get any more successful than zero.
	I mean, Scotland yesterday had zero deaths.
	Yeah.
	I'm just checking through the figures.
	It's literally single digits in England and Wales for the past couple of days.
	And then on Monday, I think it was zero deaths.
	It's just like, okay, you've done it.
	You've won.
	And the other variants of the coronavirus are obviously not so dramatically different that the vaccines aren't producing antibodies that can deal with them.
	Just accept it.
	Anyway.
	Let's go on to Darren Grimes.
	Yeah, okay.
	This was a bit of fun that I wanted to cover because I'm not generally a fan of the sort of what I'll call Prosecco Tories who live in London.
	I find them...
	I don't think Darren Grimes lives in London, actually.
	He used to.
	Did he?
	Yeah.
	The sort of...
	But I wouldn't really...
	So I want to say something.
	I wouldn't put him in the same category as Tom Harwood or anything like that.
	Well, no, he's not.
	Like, I know he's...
	But Tom Harwood's a Tory.
	I think he's a Tory party member or something like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, that's what I think of when I think of Prosecco Tories.
	He's a Tory, yeah, yeah.
	He's the sort of person that believes men can have vaginas.
	But Darren, you're right, it's not fair to put Darren in exactly that category, but it's the kind of circle that the sort of Prosecco Tories in London have.
	And I find them way too close to the politically correct left, and I don't like it.
	And so I was quite surprised when Darren Grimes came out and absolutely smashed Paul Mason.
	In a really effective manner.
	Now, this clip's a bit long.
	It's three minutes, but it's actually really interesting.
	And so pay attention to how aggressive Paul Mason's trying to be with this man who's literally half his age and how well Darren defends himself.
	Let's watch.
	But I think for a lot of people around here, right, there's this idea that the Labour Party not only doesn't like its country, it actively hates it.
	It sneers at those who quite like the flag.
	It sneers at those whose values...
	Sorry, that is going way over the top.
	No political party hates its own country.
	What's the evidence for this?
	Or is it just another piece of disinformation from the Donald Trump-loving turning point?
	I'm not involved with turning points.
	I don't know where that's come from, Paul.
	It just shows you've got your facts, right?
	What is the evidence?
	The evidence is that you all sneer at the flag.
	Give us a name.
	Momentum.
	Do it all the time.
	Sneering at the flag.
	You're heavily involved with that lot, aren't you?
	More commie than Corbyn.
	What?
	Say again, please.
	More commie than Corbyn.
	Yeah.
	What's that mean?
	It means you're communist!
	What does it mean that I spread disinformation in a Trumpian way?
	These things are...
	Well, you just did it again.
	...and nonsense.
	So, Luke, give me the name of somebody in the Labour Party with authority.
	Who has in any way sneered at the flag of the United Kingdom?
	Well, now with authority, look, you had the MP for Brighton, I can't remember the name of the constituency, who, when Keir Starmer had the Union Jack behind him, sneered at the fact that he was doing that.
	It's seen as the Labour leadership, it's seen as pandering to...
	We've got jingoistic tendencies up and down the country.
	This is nonsense.
	When Robert Jenrick had the monarch behind him, there were, of course, Labour activists and all the rest of it saying that this is ridiculous.
	The most popular monarch in goodness only knows how long.
	Hold on a minute.
	You are allowed in this country to be a Republican.
	I am a Republican.
	Right, so I didn't say you won't.
	No, I am a proud British citizen, but I wish this country was a republic.
	But that doesn't mean I'm unpatriotic.
	Yeah, but most people disagree with you, though, Paul.
	No, but we're not talking about disagreement.
	We're talking about sneering.
	And so the point is, it's not unpatriotic of me to say I would prefer that we had an elected president rather than a majesty of the queen.
	It doesn't mean I don't stand up for the national anthem.
	It doesn't mean that I would in any way sneer at calling, for example, the royal yacht after the Duke of Edinburgh.
	I'm in favour of all of that.
	So what I'm trying to track down is you make an assertion, and it's an assertion that you throw in, and you call us the media class.
	But really the assertion has no basis, in fact, does it?
	What?
	Unlike your assertion that the Tories are for the rich, when actually 14 million people voted Tory in 2019, and let me tell you, this council house that I'm in right now, that my man bought under Margaret Thatcher's right to buy, is not the sign of someone who is for the rich, or voting for a party that is for the rich.
	That was a ridiculous thing to see.
	The party's historically represented big business in Britain.
	And the Labour Party now represents middle-class activists like people.
	There we are.
	That was good.
	That was very good, Darren.
	Very impressed.
	One thing I liked about it, to go through that very quickly.
	Darren makes the claim that the general perception is that the Labour Party hates the country.
	Now, he doesn't have to say that that means he agrees with that perception.
	And so he doesn't really have to do much to substantiate that other than saying, well, look, I live in the north, I moved out of London, and I speak to people around, and their opinion...
	Is that Labour hates the country, and it seems to me this is a fairly widely held opinion.
	But Paul, you know, he's like, well, where's the thing?
	But Darren takes on that position, which is not an unreasonable position because it's obviously provable, as we'll go into it in a minute.
	But then Paul starts to say, well, hang on a second, I'm the part of Momentum and I don't hate the country, but...
	Bull.
	You're a Republican.
	Britain doesn't exist without the monarchy.
	Britain is the monarchy.
	It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
	Without the monarchy, you can't have a British Republic, because obviously the constituent nations will go their own separate ways.
	So this is, to be a Republican is to be against the constitution of the United Kingdom.
	Paul Mason, Oliver Cormorant did nothing wrong.
	That's an interesting take.
	Yeah, based.
	But this is the point.
	He's trying to say, well, look, I hate the hierarchical construction of Britain, which they do, but I don't hate the people of Britain, which maybe they don't.
	But, Paul, have you noticed that the people of Britain are rather far-right?
	You know, the proletariat are not a revolutionary organ.
	But anyway, so this was really good because Darren holds his ground very well.
	And what I found really annoying about this is that...
	Darren Grimes is pretty much the only, like, conservative left on Twitter, right?
	And so this opened him up to the licentious cruelty of the Twitter mob.
	And they were just awful.
	I mean, genuinely awful people.
	Darren didn't say anything wrong, but all of the horrible smears and slurs, and just calling him a bad person for holding his own political convictions and saying, well, look, I'm telling you, outside of London, this appears to be the case.
	It seems that people think the Labour Party hate them.
	Britain.
	Off Twitter.
	Yeah, off Twitter.
	And you'll notice how defensive Paul Mason got about this.
	Not me, not me.
	Yes, you.
	All of you.
	Momentum.
	You hate the United Kingdom.
	You hate Britain.
	You hate its empire.
	You hate the Gammons.
	You hate the regular people of the country, the Patriots.
	And who uses that term?
	Exactly.
	Who uses that term?
	Where did that come from?
	Who do you think it describes?
	You know, oh, no, it describes Jacob Rees-Mogg.
	No, it doesn't.
	Shut up.
	You know, you know it doesn't.
	But anyway, we're here to help you out.
	So Owen Jones, of course, saw this and was like, oh, Jesus, this looks bad.
	I mean, Owen does, Owen.
	I mean, you have spent your entire career basically saying Britain's evil, Britain's racist, Britain's this, Britain's that.
	We need a revolution.
	It's like, no, I don't want a revolution.
	Only someone who hates the country wants a revolution, surely.
	But he's like, it's a myth that the working has been allowed to take hold.
	The Conservatives are now the party of the working class.
	It isn't true.
	Labour won the support of working-age Britons and low-paid workers alike.
	It's pensioners who handed the Tories their majority.
	Yeah, okay, and what do you think of them?
	What do you think they are?
	They're just people who live around the country.
	And so the question, I guess, that Paul was asking for is, where's the evidence that the people of Britain think that the Labour Party is kind of anti-British?
	And I would suggest it's in the electoral results, Paul.
	If we can scroll down there, just see the map, just to make the point crystal clear for Paul here.
	How much red is there?
	Yeah.
	Seems to be, and we in fact should have got the previous maps up to show the previous year and see the recession of the red in the heart of the country where the red wall, the Labour safe seats are.
	Now it's just clustering around Liverpool.
	England is a conservative country.
	They are not revolutionary socialists.
	They will never be revolutionary socialists.
	You've lost.
	And it's because you appear to be distinctly anti-British.
	And you found a bunch of stuff about this, didn't you?
	Yeah, because them being anti-British is pretty easy to find.
	So Paul himself actually has a stated preference for what kind of flag he likes.
	It's not a British flag.
	Oh, really?
	You can see here him tweeting.
	I just typed in his name and then the flag and just see what came up.
	If so, if you scroll back up to the text so I can read it, so you can see him there with a red flag.
	Then he writes, If I had an indoor flag, this would be it.
	The La Vignette Battalion of the National Guard, France, 1871.
	But it's at the Fenterali Archive in Milan.
	I can only dream.
	Paris Commune 150.
	So yeah, he's fetishising the Paris Commune, which was a dramatic failure, got like 30,000 people killed.
	Again, another massive French failure.
	But, Paul, and I can't help but notice, is that you are using French words to describe that.
	You are speaking in French.
	You are describing something that happened in France, a foreign country, not in Britain.
	Not particularly patriotic, I would...
	Venture to state.
	But that's okay, Paul.
	That's your favourite flag.
	Not the British flag, not the English flag, not the Welsh, Scotch, not the Irish, no.
	Not Cornish, not like, you know, the Wessex flag, not the flag of Mercia or Northumbria.
	No, you've chosen something in France, but you're a patriot.
	Sorry, carry on.
	Yeah, he chose a communist flag as well.
	A communist French flag.
	Yeah.
	You're the patriot, Paul.
	Yeah, I can see how you guys love the country.
	Yep.
	Anyway, so if you also just Google Labour Party British flag, do you know what comes up?
	This.
	Just hordes of people with Palestine flags.
	An EU flag.
	At least the Jeremy Corbyn with the hammer and sickle flag isn't there, I suppose.
	It's one saving grace.
	Because I don't know if there's any images of them with British flags.
	You can't find them.
	If you Google it, you just find them with Palestinian flags.
	You remember at the Labour Party conference, did they have a British flag?
	Not that I remember from watching it.
	Not on the stage.
	It was all just red.
	Keep the red flag flying here, I guess.
	Soon we'll be replacing the black flag.
	Anyway, so we get to the next one.
	So it turns out, as this guy points out, it turns out that Labour do like flag-waving after all, just not the British one.
	As you can see, Zahra Sultana going down to the Palestinian march.
	Plenty of Palestinian flags, which, you know, if you want to do that, okay.
	But they would never have a march for Labour where you can see British flags flying left, right and centre.
	Never going to happen.
	But you do have a bunch of Islamo-leftists who are talking about a problem that's happening like 6,000 miles away.
	What's our connection to this?
	Islam.
	Allahu Akbar.
	Very British.
	Very traditionally patriotic British.
	Yeah, anyway.
	So, this I think all stems really from Corbyn, who I think we can accurately describe as an anti-patriot.
	Corbyn, and just to be clear, my opinion of Corbyn, is that he spent his entire life sympathising with every enemy of Britain and trying to do everything he can to denigrate Britain's power as a country.
	I mean, this includes, after an IRA bombing, trying to invite the IRA to Parliament to give their side of the story in the terrorist attack they had just committed to try and kill Margaret Thatcher.
	But, of course, Corbyn probably would have killed Margaret Thatcher himself, given the opportunity.
	But this is something that even The Guardian can...
	Even The Guardian authors and article writers can point out, right?
	This is what they say.
	This is what Pat McFadden says.
	In The Guardian.
	Again, not some sort of right-leaning, sympathizing rag.
	You know, The Guardian is...
	the most popular communist paper in the country, right?
	Corbyn's anti-Western worldview, shared by his most senior advisors and cheerleaders, goes to the core of his political identity.
	Not my description, a Guardian writer's description.
	It separates him from every post-war Labour leader, and as we saw in the election, from millions of Labour voters.
	Not my opinion, a Guardian author's opinion.
	This view holds that most of the world'sills are down to Western imperialism, and that if others commit a reprehensible act, we probably left them with little choice.
	It sees NATO as an aggressor.
	It is instinctively anti-American, long before Trump, and holds up Israel as being uniquely evil.
	Is any of this ringing untrue to Paul Mason specifically?
	Is this not true, Paul?
	It loudly condemns any Western use of force and is usually silent or Russian or non-Western-backed military action.
	It infantilizes terrorism, denying the power of human agency or any dynamic of its own and seeing it as only a reaction to what we do.
	Is that in any way untrue?
	I didn't write it, but I sign off on everything about that.
	Everyone can tell that Corbyn does everything that he can to oppose Britain, and it's because Corbyn is trapped in the world of abstractions.
	He is sat there going, well, social justice, socialism.
	You know, we need, like, these weird, like, very intangible abstract things.
	This is why he can call Fidel Castro a champion of social justice.
	How you can be a cheerleader for Fidel Castro and then be like, yeah, but I am a patriot for Britain.
	No, you are absolutely not.
	And again, this is not the only place.
	I mean, there are loads of these.
	Let's go to the next one.
	It's politics.co.uk, where a YouGov poll in June 2020 showed the majority of UK citizens are actually proud to be British.
	Making this seem like the natural place for a party hoping to win to put themselves.
	But patriotism is a constant issue for Corbyn to grapple with.
	Indeed, he never really did.
	Polling by Lord Ashcroft around the general election revealed a perceived lack of patriotism was one of the major factors behind Labour's defeat in 2019.
	Paul, you could have googled this yourself.
	But you didn't want to because you know that that's the case.
	You know you're not a patriot.
	You know Corbyn is a patriot.
	You know Momentum aren't patriots.
	You know you're communist patriots.
	You are, as George Orwell would say, nationalists for communism.
	That's what you're doing.
	Is there something you want to say?
	Just exactly what Darren Grimes pointed out by saying you guys are more commie than Corbyn.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, Corbyn is the acceptable face of communism in this country, and communism by its very nature and definitions is anti-British, and you know it.
	Anyway, they say what it did carry, however, were narratives that perpetuated the idea that Corbyn was unpatriotic.
	The most prominent example being the accusation of him being a terrorist sympathiser, a narrative that damaged his personal image.
	Well, it's only because of all of the terrorists that he sympathised with.
	Our friends in Hamas and Hezbollah, I'm sure, gave him a very warm reception when he was laying wreaths at the graves of dead terrorists, or with the IRA and various others.
	What a weird version of Cope there.
	Like, the narrative that he was sympathetic for terrorists is what harmed him.
	Not the sympathy for terrorism.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The narrative was the problem.
	It's unbelievable, right?
	And so this has become a widespread meme.
	Everyone knows that Corbyn's Labour Party, the left in this country, hate Britain.
	They're not shy about it.
	They're the ones saying it's a racist, sexist, imperialist, white supremacist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Everything about Britain's bad.
	Everything about Britain's history is bad.
	Anything that happens in a foreign country, Britain's fault.
	Every statue has to be taken down.
	Everything about Britain has to be decolonized.
	It's obvious you hate this country, right?
	And so the Daily Mail have...
	This is a hilarious article, to be honest.
	Jeremy Corbyn finally reveals his patriotism by declaring that English cheese is better than French cheese.
	That's the closest that people can find to Jeremy Corbyn's patriotism.
	He says that he prefers English cheese because it's sharper.
	Well done, you patriots.
	So this led Lisa Nandy.
	I know we're going to run on about here, actually, but there's a lot to do here, and it's important, right?
	So Lisa Nandy, when she made her bid for Labour leader, in 2017 it was, she was like, look, we need patriotism, not placards.
	And she's right.
	She says that Labour's never going to win power under Corbyn until it starts listening to Brexit voters and stop being the party of placards and protest.
	Because the placards are all appeals to abstract concepts.
	They're not appeals to the real people, the real world, the real grounding of the country.
	They're appeals to ideals.
	And if people don't actually follow those ideals, then they're not going to vote for you.
	But I'll skip over most of what she said here, because essentially we've covered it already.
	But she's really giving them a good grilling on the idea of patriotism, because, I mean, she says here, the left has found itself almost unable to comprehend that we have accepted this idea that we are all rational, calculating human beings who do questionnaires and think, well, Labour fits my policies best, therefore I'll vote for them.
	That's not how politics works.
	Politics works from the gut.
	Who's working in my interest?
	And when you guys are like, you know what, Britain's evil and British people are racist, that's not winning.
	That's not patriotism.
	The placard she gives an example of, you can see just in that picture below there, socialist workers dump Trump.
	Fight bigotry.
	And you can see there, stand up for racism.
	It's always the same goddamn placards.
	It's always the same communist agitation that is not a form of patriotism.
	It's a declaration that the country is bad.
	That's what this is about.
	And then you've got this next one.
	I just found a few Labour defences.
	Labour should be cautious to embrace patriotism.
	Why?
	Is that what a patriotic party does, is it?
	They have activists that will be like, well, I mean, slow down a bit.
	Labour doesn't hate the country, but also we don't want to love the country.
	Yeah, we don't love it.
	I mean, Christ.
	In Britain, our patriotism is a deeper, complex integration of culture, history, and ethnicity.
	Ours is not a cosmopolitan nationalism, nor is it a value as heavy as in other liberal Western democracies, such as America.
	The cosmopolitan nationalism, they're talking about France.
	This is because our spirited expressions are so dogmatic and tied to history, be it false or not, this presents an enormous challenge for left-wing groups.
	Why do you hate the history of the country you're claiming to not hate?
	It's really hard to not paint you as people who hate Britain.
	Flying a Union flag echoes difficult imperial memories of intolerance and exploitation around the world.
	You see, where we're already off into the land of abstraction, If Labour wish to embody the flag, fly it high and wave it for all the country to see, they must pursue a deeper line of constructive review with our past, seeking to represent people of colour in every way.
	Right, so people outside of Britain.
	People outside of Britain are where Labour's patriotism lies.
	They can't describe anything about Britain on the flag without saying, well, this is an imperialist flag and we hate it.
	The only version of the flag they probably could endorse is if you put the racial pride flag over it halfway.
	You know, with the rainbow colours and then the black and brown stripes.
	I guess so, yeah.
	And then you get other ones.
	So Labour needs an honest history of the British Empire in schools.
	Why?
	Because they hate the British Empire.
	The problem that they have is the public don't.
	The public like the British Empire.
	Overwhelmingly, I saw that 55% in the last poll, people were like, yeah, British Empire was great.
	And it's like, what about the people who are just au fait about the British Empire?
	It's ambivalent about it.
	Well, they're about 30%.
	There's about 18% of people who hate the British Empire.
	There's your core constituency.
	The people who hate the Empire are the core constituency.
	But, I mean, the party plans to ensure that it will teach historical injustices of colonialism and the role of the British Empire is properly, you know, integrated into the national curriculum and teach powerful black history.
	It sounds like you hate Britain and you're resentful.
	And of course, this doesn't stop Labour from saying, hey, what we need is reparations.
	That's patriotism.
	An official Labour Party report said the Labour government should make woke payments to countries once ruled by the British Empire to apologise for colonialism.
	Patriotism.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Let's just get to the socialist worker, just to get to the very far left of what's going on, socialist worker being a communist paper.
	They're just complaining here, Keir Starmer wants Labour to be patriotic, pander to racism and support cuts.
	There we go.
	Now we get the mask off, the unvarnished.
	No, patriotism is racism.
	That's where we're at.
	That's what they're saying.
	Anyway, let's go on to Emily Thornberry's wonderful image from Rochester.
	This is still up.
	So this is what lost her a job under, I think it was like Milliman or something.
	She tweeted out just an image of someone who was flying the English flag, and the word being image from Rochester.
	Obviously to be like, a white van, English flag, God.
	Isn't that racist?
	And therefore she was kicked out from the shadow cabinet.
	She's back in now.
	She was under Corbyn as a simp for the EU, and now she's under Keir Starmer to do Who Cares.
	Because they're not getting anywhere.
	Sorry, the next link I have is just a poll on how do people feel about flag-waving as well.
	And if you scroll down, you'll see that Conservatives, great.
	Average people, think it's great.
	Labour voters, split.
	50-50.
	On whether or not it's horrible.
	Somewhat and strongly disapproved, 36% of Labour voters.
	Of the union flag being thrown on government buildings every day.
	It's madness.
	Yeah.
	So we go to the next one.
	This is just Labour defends their strategy on this whole thing.
	Which, I mean, that's the thing, fundamentally, Paul.
	This Guardian article, Labour defends new strategy to focus on patriotism and union flag.
	Defends it from who?
	The Conservatives criticising them?
	The far-rights?
	No.
	As they say, left-wing MPs say plans risk alienating.
	Momentum.
	It was momentum, Paul.
	Yeah.
	You, your group, the communist...
	Well, I would say infiltrates into Labour, but you've always been there.
	Well, you don't even have to say momentum.
	I mean, he said, name people with stature.
	Well, MPs.
	MPs, there we go.
	The document had been criticised by a number of left-wing MPs, including former Saudi Shadow Cabinet Ministers, Clive Lewis and Richard Bergen.
	Both Corbynites.
	Communists.
	Yeah, both Corbynite communists.
	There you go.
	There's your people of note.
	It's the MPs in the party who say, wave the flag.
	Yeah, I mean, it's literally, you know, the Zahra Sultanas, the Richard Burgons.
	I imagine Diane Abbott has come out and said something, and what's her name?
	David Lammy.
	Yeah, Lammy.
	What was the, I mean, God, ask Lammy his opinion on Britain and the Empire.
	You know, you're going to get a long diatribe on it.
	But, yeah, anyway, let's carry on.
	We'll skip over the insti-racism thing, probably.
	Because it's essentially just...
	I mean, remember the race report?
	Like, the race report came out, and what was the response from all the Labour MPs?
	This is gaslighting.
	This is false.
	Britain's a racist country.
	Saying Britain is a racist country.
	Also, we're patriots.
	They can't be in the same realm.
	I mean, evidently, by MPs' own actions, saying, Keir Starman wants to wave the flag.
	Not on my watch.
	Not today.
	Socialism prevails.
	There you go.
	So, Darren Grimes, good job.
	You are patriotic to socialism.
	You are anti-patriotic to Britain.
	Paul Mason, you liar.
	That was fun.
	That had to be done.
	And again, good job to Darren for holding his ground and getting Paul to overextend to the point where it's like, well, name the people who hate Britain.
	Oh, God, they're everywhere, Paul.
	You know, they're everywhere, infesting the Labour Party, and somehow they get elected.
	The MPs?
	Like, we literally have their names.
	Richard Bergman, Clive Lewis, Nadia Whittam, Diane Abbott.
	We have...
	We have all of their statements, and then when one of your MPs comes around and goes, maybe we should have patriotism and fly the flag, you turn on them like a pack of hungry wolves.
	You can't believe it.
	How could you say that?
	We've already told you the British Empire was a racist, imperialist, white supremacist project.
	You can't support Britain, and there we go.
	Point proven.
	And the regular public can see all of this, they see you doing all of this, and they're like, yeah, okay, so the Labour Party seems to hate Britain.
	We've got it.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	Hey guys, I don't know who it was, but a while back someone made a video comment, talked to Callum, saying, uh, I don't understand why people at work just obey the rules because they are the rules, because the government said so.
	And he said he didn't have a word for these people, it was very disturbing to him.
	I have a perfect word for it, and I've been discussing this with friends before.
	Those people at your work, they are called slaves.
	Their chains might not be physical or legal in nature, but they have enslaved themselves to the mainstream media and the government and just obey that question or thought.
	Yeah.
	Good answer.
	I agree.
	Hi, guys.
	Also in the future, at some point, I might need to make a series of continuous...
	Video messages over multiple days explaining my thoughts on something, because in the past, Carl has essentially mentioned how much he dislikes anime, and has also complained how woke every form of media in the West is going, and his solution to this problem is anime-BTFO, and that's about as helpful as people who say, but my private platform can censor whoever they want.
	I wouldn't take that seriously.
	It's just a meme.
	Also, I'm not entirely convinced that anime is going to save the West.
	Yeah, no, I'm not convinced by that either.
	Hence the meme.
	Anyway, let's go for the next one.
	So I know you guys are probably tired of my dumb jokes, but I'm only half-joking when I say this.
	How hilarious would it be if somebody went to an Antifa rally and instead of using mace, they used a glitter gun and sprayed everybody in Antifa with red, white, and blue glitter?
	Because you're never getting rid of that shit.
	Not a bad idea.
	I love the Israelis or whatever, someone made a spray you use at Riot Control where it stains someone, and then the stain is just on there forever.
	It's really hard to get rid of, so if the police see them, they can arrest them.
	Something like that.
	Maybe red for communists.
	Dr.
	Fauci is not what he seems.
	He's working for the Chinese regime.
	Dr.
	Fauci is not what he seems.
	He's serving the Chinese regime.
	Very true.
	That kid's never going to live it down.
	I wonder where he is, the one who did the song.
	Man, I feel bad for him because I assume that he's just a well-meaning person, and then all of these emails come out where it's like Fauci's been lying, Fauci loses his book deal and stuff like this, and this is like, oh God, I venerated this man.
	It'd be like being a big fan of Jimmy Savile, wouldn't it?
	Well, no, you laugh, right?
	But when I was a kid, Jimmy Savile was on TV all the time, and he seemed like a decent dude, right?
	Because you didn't know anything about this.
	So I liked watching Jim Will Fix It.
	You know, this was a nice thing to watch.
	And looking back on it now, it's like, holy crap!
	Yeah, I've seen, like, some people on TV talk about it occasionally, but they're like, yeah, I wrote a letter to Jimmy Savile when I was young, and he didn't write back.
	And then you can see them go, probably for the best.
	Yeah, you're lucky!
	Anyway.
	Afternoon, gentlemen.
	Carl, you said a while ago, name a good movie that Hollywood has produced in the last couple of years.
	Ford vs.
	Ferrari was really good.
	Before I even watched the movie, I looked at the cast and went, huh, it's almost exclusively white and male, therefore it's going to be a good movie.
	And I was right.
	I'm not saying that the whiter the brighter, but Hollywood box office is pretty much doing that one for me.
	A part of the long YouTube link, Callum, I'll post it in the comments as well.
	I usually write on Substack and narrate books, but if you guys would like me to YouTube my writing, or you guys have something you'd like me to narrate, I'd be honoured.
	I do have a two and a half minute creative piece that I did on classical liberalism I'd like your permission to upload.
	It's a bit long, but I promise you guys will like it.
	Cheers, chaps.
	I'm still sceptical about Hollywood's capacity to produce good films, regardless of the cast, to be honest.
	I think the problem is ideological.
	What was the name of the film?
	I didn't hear it.
	Fast and the Furious.
	I don't know.
	I was typing out a link.
	But yeah, well, I know that's not going to be good.
	But anyway, I was more saying if you have some commentary on something, his banter's good as well.
	So you should make just short videos if you find something funny in the news.
	I'd watch that.
	I want to be clear.
	We are not doing gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
	We are not doing it at all, and if we are doing it, we are doing it in North Carolina and not Wuhan.
	I am not lying to you.
	I'm a very honest scientist, and if I am lying to you, I am lying to you following the CDC guidelines on lying to the public for the sake of public health.
	That's a great impression.
	It's good.
	A problem that a lot of governments have is that they tend to approach issues from a position of ignorance.
	An example of this would be how almost all gun laws are written by people who couldn't identify the problem with what I'm showing y'all.
	And given the reliability of experts, is there an actual solution to this problem?
	I don't understand.
	Is there a problem there?
	Well, I'm guessing there is a problem.
	Is the amount of bullets in the magazine?
	I don't know.
	It's a fairly low-quality image, so I couldn't tell.
	And I'm no gun expert.
	Well, even if it was high-quality, I'm not going to tell.
	Yeah, I'm no gun expert.
	But yeah, he's doubtless correct.
	I mean, watching the Democrats talk about guns is insufferable.
	It's like, oh, we want to ban semi-auto assault rifles, semi-automatic weapons or something.
	That's every weapon, practically.
	I think it was Governor Rubio?
	I think it was Governor.
	He went to some town hall after a shooting, and I don't know why he agreed to this, and they were going to have to debate about guns, so of course it was going to be You know, emotionally driven.
	And one of the people in the audience screams out about we need to ban all semi-automatic weapons.
	And Rubio just collapses because he's bad with an audience, I guess, that's hostile.
	He wasn't able to stand up on his convictions.
	And he just ends up agreeing and saying, I understand, I agree.
	And it's like, right, so we're going to ban all the pistols then as well.
	I mean, muskets are banned by that standard.
	Hunting rifles, like everything.
	I mean, we actually would have more permissive gun laws in the UK. It also just doesn't make sense.
	I think Stephen Crowder's made some videos about this where it's like, you know, semi-autos, fully autos were even allowed by the Constitution.
	The founders were even asked about, like, puckle guns and whatnot.
	And they're like, yeah, go for it.
	Some guy wanted to put cannons on his ship.
	He was like, yeah, does the First Amendment give me that?
	And they were like, go for it.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Wasn't it that the people should be able to be armed with anything the government can have, basically, the ethos behind it?
	Which means, you know, get your tanks.
	Well, people can.
	It's a lot of hoops.
	It's a lot of money.
	A lot of hoops to go through.
	Well, legal hoops, really.
	Which are unconstitutional.
	Get rid of them.
	That's a good point.
	Shall we be infringed?
	Good afternoon, gentlemen.
	Hopefully this will make it on the 3 of June podcast.
	If not, it'll be on the 4th of June podcast, I hope.
	My question is this.
	Given the damage that Anthony Fauci has done to the world and to the U.S. in general, do you think it's acceptable to maybe make a special case for this gentleman and instead of just throwing him in prison, banish him with a two-thirds vote of Congress and a conviction in the courts to some god awful place where he can't hurt anybody else?
	Because this is bullshit.
	Dude, we'll send him to China.
	Where else are you going to send him?
	Well, yeah, but if you banish him, he'll go to China and get a few more stacks, won't he?
	No, the Chinese won't be able to use for him ever, though.
	Well, maybe.
	That's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	So, yeah, make him go and live in what he wants, and then he can go and enjoy it, can't he?
	Anyway.
	So, let's go to the comments.
	So, yeah, according to Richard Ebb, Beijing Biden says that Andy Ngo is attacked by an idea.
	Yep.
	Carpatrick Crusader says, I feel so bad for Andy Ngo, one of the last actual journalists actually exposing modern leftists for being violent, middle-class midwits, and the poor guy's been left with irreparable damage from it.
	Very courageous fella.
	Yeah, we really like Andy here, so we hope he does well.
	He's a brave guy, he's an honest guy, and he's done good work.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, half on a minute.
	Yeah.
	To Antifar, anyone who's not part of Antifar or sympathetic to them is a fascist.
	Therefore, it is okay to attack that person.
	Antifar, the living embodiment of George Orwell's boot stamping on a human face for eternity.
	Honestly, I think you give them too much credit there.
	But they are evil, frankly.
	Student of history, Antifar attacks random Asian guy, got lucky, actually got Andy Ngo.
	It could well be that that's the case.
	It's happened multiple times now.
	It has.
	It's not a one-off.
	Multiple times they've attacked random Asian people, screaming, that's Andy Ngo.
	And the Asian guy's just like...
	Don't know who you are.
	Don't know who Andy knows.
	Yeah, so Joe Rittenhouse says, Tim's not a coward, so I don't think he comes from a place of cowardice, But his take is what purpose is served by trying to infiltrate antifa?
	Some journalists can't cover certain topics.
	Women were barred from reporting from Tahrir by some outlets due to violence against women specifically.
	This is pointless and stupid.
	And conservatives using woke leftist arguments to justify Andy Nair doing something stupid.
	Journalists have limits.
	If you can't properly report due to risk, don't go.
	Assign someone else.
	To be honest with you, I do actually kind of agree with Tim's point.
	And I don't begrudge Andy Ngo for wanting to do what he does, which is be a journalist and go and investigate things.
	But unfortunately, he's too famous.
	He's got to accept it.
	I don't like the wording there.
	Journalists have limits.
	Journalists have risks.
	I mean, Andy will have been aware of the risk.
	He's done it anyway.
	He's, you know, taken the battery.
	Yeah, but I mean, there are a few ways to approach this, I think.
	I mean, like, personally, as someone who cares about Andino's safety, because I'm friends with him...
	Yeah, I wouldn't advise him to go.
	I would very strongly advise him not to go because of the danger that is involved.
	And aside from that, there's also the sort of more practical point that Tim's making, which is a valid one, is that, look, if you get beaten up and chased out and hurt, and possibly worse, then you can't even do your job.
	For Andy, I mean, I imagine from his perspective, give his side of it, which is, if he's doing this, which is that, well, you know, I understand, that's the risk, and I'm going to go there, I'm going to do it anyway, because it's important.
	So, I mean, that's why he went to Chaz, even though he knew he was known.
	He saw someone who had given him a death threat in the past.
	He knew he was in a very risky place.
	And did it anyway because the journalism for him was worth the risk.
	And I'm very impressed at his bravery.
	But there is also the sort of practical argument that I think Tim's presenting, which is like, look, send agents in your place.
	Two things can be true.
	That can be the advisable thing to do, and then he can say, nah, screw your optics, I'm going in.
	He can, but I don't want him to get hurt.
	I don't like to see him being beaten.
	And I think that his work is valuable and that there is a value beyond that that he could be also taking ownership of.
	You know, like sending unknown agents in to gather the information that then he can compile into books and promote, I think, reaches many more people and is much more persuasive to many more people.
	And I realize it might be, you know, out of character for him to be like, well, I expect to go in myself.
	I expect to do it.
	Tim Pool's right where he's like, you have limits, and one of those limits is your fame, unfortunately.
	You've been very successful, and this means that the people that you're trying to report on are too aware of you, are constantly on patrol for you, and they're going to kill you if they get the opportunity.
	So don't give them it, unfortunately.
	I can't just go down to a leftist gathering and just ask them questions and stuff like that.
	They won't do it.
	I'm too famous in their circles.
	Andy's too famous in Portland's Antifa circles.
	Depends on the area, but we can do it with the less violent groups, yeah.
	Yeah, but otherwise, it's just not possible, really.
	Which is a shame, because it's fun to do, but you just can't do it.
	That's the thing, I think I could probably take Andy to the Antifa pub in Reading and show him that stuff, or something like that.
	I think they'd probably know who he was still.
	Oh no, you're not going to go in.
	You see the thing.
	It's about an asshole anyway.
	But going to Portland, big risk.
	Yeah, it's not possible in my opinion.
	Anyway, HR Slave, pretty sure one of those communists threatening Andy Ngo is wearing a Gucci jacket that retails over $1,000 owe the irony.
	They can't help but be the stereotype, can they?
	Socialists are always rich.
	Always.
	Always they end up in charge of everyone's money, so...
	Yeah, and they end up taking it from everyone else.
	Ryan says, can we get a moment of silence to honour the sheer size of Andino's Balls of Steel?
	Yes, we can.
	God bless that man.
	Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's incredibly admirable.
	But I think it is getting to the point now where they're obviously at war with him.
	Admirable, not advisable.
	Yeah, admirable, but not advisable.
	And I wish he would take a little bit better care of himself, because I think what he is doing is very valuable, and I want to see him do it for many more decades.
	You know, I want to see him continue to succeed.
	COVID stuff...
	David Edwards, scientific question, does a virus exist?
	Non-scientific question, what should we do about it?
	No policy can be defended merely by the science.
	This will be David Hume speaking through David here.
	This hysteria is unsustainable and people need to wake up and embrace the danger inherent in living so they're not so gullible next time.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is why I was trying to say, look, you know, the journey to going to get the COVID vaccine is probably more fraught with risk for the average person under 50 than the actual disease itself.
	Adria De La Fuente says, God, I can see the fear gripping everyone.
	Despite not killing a 0.05% of the population using Google's numbers, everyone is afraid.
	I think a bit of stoicism would do everyone a lot of good, as it did for me.
	Exactly.
	I totally agree.
	This one, memento mori.
	And I'm still very proud of the article I wrote about that.
	It'd be a premium thing.
	That's why you should sign up.
	Omar says, when it comes to the constant government fear-mongering, I wonder how much of it is them riding the tiger and unable to get off.
	We passed well over a year ago the point of, oops, this is embarrassing, but we were wrong.
	All I know is that I've lost all trust in the government, and that might be one of the best outcomes of COVID. Yeah, that's a great point.
	And I think that they have been trapped in a kind of bunker mentality because of their scientific advisors who are all left-wing, because of the media, which is predominantly left-wing, and the fear of not knowing what to do but feeling you have to do something.
	So I think they've been trapped in this bunker mentality, but you can look at the numbers now and be like, look, you've done it.
	Take the win and just go out and say, no, look, we've won.
	Everything's fine.
	Go back about your lives as normal.
	Texas has opened up.
	Florida has opened up.
	There's loads of other examples of places that are doing great.
	We're doing great too.
	Go about your lives and then there will be no choice but for this to fade away.
	Disband the government advisory board.
	You don't need an advisory board over a virus you've conquered.
	Well done.
	Power over the plague is the property of a deity.
	As an atheist, the idea that we can control a virus is insidious.
	Yeah, and I said this from the word go.
	You know, control the virus, you know, do this, blah, blah, blah.
	And it's like, we don't control the virus.
	Governments control people.
	You know, the virus does what it wants.
	We're not in control of that.
	But you can control the people, and that's what this is being used for.
	The reason COVID cases are going down is because flu season is over and we will have a new wave in December because that's how seasonal viruses work.
	Doubtless, that's going to be something that happens.
	But I do think the vaccination program probably has had an impact on this.
	Alistair Crowley, please stop saying died of COVID. Yes, it is died of COVID within 28 days of a positive test, in fact.
	Yes, and we did make sure that we specified that it wasn't people who died primarily of the primary cause of being COVID, as we talked about in the segment.
	But yes, you are right.
	I should be more disciplined there.
	Luke says, the UK COVID death figures have always included cases where the patient died from other causes, but who happened to have tested positive in the 28 days of death.
	Without clearing the figures to see which are the pure COVID deaths, then the data is meaningless.
	It's certainly massively overinflated by their own admission.
	There's just no question of it.
	The Office of National Statistics has just confirmed this.
	Ryan says, hey lads, is it just me who has somewhat lost faith in the scientific community after the COVID pandemic?
	I know good science is important and has given us the vaccine ultimately, but the way the terms the science or the data are now used as debate-stopping phrases is really concerning to me.
	Data is clearly vulnerable to manipulation and selective practices in order to prove a particular point of view and keep up the good work.
	Yeah, so there's a philosopher called Thomas Kuhn, right, and he had this basic view of science as it works in paradigmatic view.
	So everyone believes a certain thing and they're kind of trapped in the paradigm until people on the fringes bring up pieces of evidence that pierce the paradigm because they can't be refuted.
	And essentially when the great and the good of the old paradigm go over to the new paradigm, then the mass of the mob follows afterwards.
	And I think that's something that we're actually seeing here now.
	And so like the science, the data, whatever the orthodoxy is, is just appealed to as, as he says, a conversation thought terminating cliche.
	And eventually they will all come over, but there's always resistance because it turns out that scientists are humans and humans are emotional and tribal and don't like rethinking their own position in a scientific way.
	So science really isn't very good when it's done by humans.
	And that's one of the major complaints from the left actually going, oh, science is racist.
	You've got these presuppositions.
	So do you.
	So shut up.
	But yeah, we shouldn't be taking orders from scientists.
	They're no better than any other human.
	I'm going to move on to the next segment because we've got loads and we've fallen behind.
	Signed up to YouGov a few weeks ago and have been answering questions as based as possible.
	Good man.
	IDoYouGov says Bart.
	Overwhelmingly, the questions are context-free, like does Facebook take its problems seriously when they are not boring?
	The only good one recently was about the BBC and I panned them.
	Good man.
	Hey guys, I just want to thank you and congratulate you on making such excellent content.
	Well, thank you very much.
	I've done my best to recommend you to friends and family, although some of them definitely think I'm becoming a bigot.
	Well, those people have probably been reading The Guardian.
	Honestly, the podcast is one of the highlights of my day.
	Particularly enjoy the book club and Epochs at the moment.
	Keep up the great work.
	Well, thank you very much.
	And incidentally, after this, we'll be recording this weekend's Epochs, this Sunday's Epochs, which is going to be a follow-on to the last one, where we'll be talking about the Sicilian expedition, which is the Athenians invading Sicily and...
	Screwing it up.
	And for some reason, I don't know why, but I'm a total Athenian partisan in a war that happened two and a half thousand years ago.
	I get actually angry, and this will doubtless be expressed when we record it in a minute, I get angry about the Athenian mistakes because they had all the resources.
	They could have done it.
	They just screwed it up.
	And we're going to go into details as to why.
	And the great thing as well is the political arguments on either side.
	Because they're so well documented by Thucydides, they feel like they could have happened yesterday.
	You know, you feel like you could be right there and arguing the case with them and stuff like this.
	But yeah, I love the epochs.
	But yeah, and we'll have the Alex Jones on up soon as well.
	Kenneth says, I have a friend that had a misconception regarding what critical race theory is.
	I tried to explain its true meaning the best I could.
	I feel I fell short.
	I'm not the best at explaining.
	Do you have a video on such topic that I could send?
	I should note that I'm slightly right-leaning, just not as plugged into politics as myself.
	We will get something like that done.
	I'm going to work on putting together an explainer pack, so articles, videos.
	These won't be premium either.
	So we will get something like this out.
	So it's normally friendly and we can take them through it, give them the sources, give them the quotes.
	We've got the big critical race theory book up there, which I will use to do it.
	It will be dull to do, but I'll make sure it's packaged in a consumable way.
	Not unaware of the need for such a thing.
	So yeah.
	Yan Alice says, Hey Carl and Callum, I just need to ask, when you start reading the comments, do you have the said comments saved to a different area for you to read?
	I noticed this yesterday when I put my comment, it was read, only the first part of it was read and the edited part wasn't as it was put in slightly later before we started reading the comments.
	So the question, when you catalog the comments, do you have a system in place for when an edit is made?
	Yeah, no we don't.
	Basically, I get screenshots put in the document that we're using, because I can't, this is just a tablet, I can't really switch between them.
	So yeah, if you put a comment in and you edit it, then I probably won't get the update.
	Sorry.
	Anyway, let's quickly go back to some of the COVID ones.
	So, whenever I see an article, says Henry, saying, scientists say or experts say, I now need to ask which scientists?
	Yes.
	The ones with a direct business interest in this continuing, or a direct egotistical interest, in fact.
	Professor Neil Ferguson, who predicted billions of deaths, yet broke lockdown to have an affair, and has been consistently wrong on his modelling for his entire career.
	Google, in fact, James Dellingpole did a great article for us on Neil Ferguson, didn't he?
	Where he's going through just this history.
	Literally the last 20 years, Ferguson has been predicting pandemic deaths by the millions and billions, and has been wrong on every single case.
	And he doesn't even agree to the lockdown rules that he helped instigate.
	Total fucking hypocrite.
	Sorry, I shouldn't swear.
	But it really annoys me.
	No, I mean, he's ruined this country tremendously with his own impact and doesn't even believe it.
	And he'll never be held to account.
	Insufferable.
	As you covered yesterday, other scientists disagree, but their opinion doesn't matter, apparently.
	Yeah, so that's the point, isn't it?
	It's the scientists that are kind of plugged into the cathedral.
	You know, the, I don't know how to, you know, in fact, we'll do a premium podcast at some point about vague concepts, because like, Paul Mason going, well, name names, give me definite boundaries.
	It's like, there aren't necessarily definite boundaries.
	Here's an example there was.
	There was, but...
	You said name the significant people within the Labour Party.
	Which is easy to do.
	You've got a list of MPs I can do it with.
	Yeah, but the point is there are going to be times when it's like, what's Britishness or British values?
	And you're going to have to be like, look, there isn't a fixed boundary.
	But there's a certain...
	area and there's there's ways of give me a kilogram of britishness exactly but there's ways of um establishing vague concepts as real that we'll go through at some point um but anyway um scientists are not some global collective who agree on everything the media should stop acting like it yeah it's always their experts the experts that say that the things we want uh that we want to happen That increase our power and influence, frankly.
	Chris Simone says, also I believe it is West Virginia that is offering guns as an incentive to get vaccinated.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	That's a much better system.
	Yeah, I mean...
	It's much more American as well.
	It is.
	Well, is it more American than burgers?
	Yeah, it's more American to get a gun than a burger.
	Yeah, but they're going to give me three burgers worth of guns.
	Which one would you get?
	I'll make it a deal.
	The other states, the governors are surely listening.
	They can set up a burger or gun.
	Pick one.
	Which one do you want?
	It's like a Happy Meal toy.
	Depends how hungry I am that day, I suppose.
	Henry says, COVID-19 alpha is actually the UK variant.
	Oh, right, thank you.
	The OG Wuhan variant doesn't have a letter assigned to it.
	Wonder how many stacks the Who accepted for that move.
	Oh, you can see the list here.
	New names on the road for COVID variants.
	Kent, B117. Hugh name Alpha.
	South African, named Beta.
	Brazil, Gamma.
	India, Delta.
	Oh, that's very racist.
	The British are the Alphas.
	Indians, Deltas.
	So we're getting a bit brave New World now.
	I'm sorry, I'm going to have to move on.
	Don't worry, they like cleaning the floors.
	Okay, Hugh.
	Yeah, so...
	Have we got any new comments?
	Or have mine just failed to reload?
	Whenever you scroll, you seem to skip over a bunch.
	Do I? Yeah.
	Well, there were a lot from the Andy No one, and I wanted to make sure that we covered the other ones.
	Okay, I'll just reload the page and re-zone off the page.
	Get on then.
	Because then I've got a couple minutes left.
	I didn't want to...
	I don't know.
	Supreme Duck.
	I would like to set up a game jam where people work on their own tiny replicas of Carl's failed Kickstarter game.
	Do you think this would be cool or would it be okay?
	Only Carl's answer is appreciated.
	The game wasn't actually failed.
	I just wasn't happy with the result because of the way things worked out.
	And so I was just like, I'm just going to scrap it.
	So I mean, I did produce it.
	I just wasn't happy with it.
	But honestly, one day I'll have enough spare time where I'll be able to go back and make something.
	Duffy B. I would argue there is science with a capital S and science with a lowercase s.
	Capital S science is a cult of personality where the science is a study and smaller lowercase science is a study of data and information.
	Yeah.
	True.
	I think gaming don't like to see this.
	William White.
	Some people love the excitement of putting themselves into dangerous situations.
	I'm beginning to think Andy Ngo might be one of them.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Entirely possible.
	Major Tom, in defense of Andy, it's not so easy to just, quote, put someone else in his place, although there would be less risk for them and there would still be risk for them.
	Their blood would be on their hands if they didn't kill him.
	Yeah, but I think that Andy probably has enough like-minded people following him that perhaps it would be, and maybe it is that Andy enjoys the danger of it, And I say this to someone, a concerned friend, maybe that's something Andy needs to reflect on.
	Am I doing this because I think it's a good way to defeat Antifa, or am I doing this because It's a good way for me to defeat Antifa.
	And if that's the case, then it may be more sensible to take a backseat and more organisational, even though that may not be immediately thrilling, it might be more strategically useful.
	The thing I want to say is I have seen there are a whole bunch of different smaller reporters down there who just film and upload it and then that's their thing.
	And if you dare film something that shows Antifa to be bad, they do still try to attack you and whatnot.
	I mean, one guy had his car tires slashed for daring to film them setting a fire up.
	But I mean, they can get more clever about it.
	Like, you have hidden spy cameras on you or just microphones that are recording, things like this.
	So you're not obviously recording and things like this.
	They will eventually figure out.
	There is actually an example in here as well.
	So the internal documents he uses, of course Andy didn't join Antifar for three years or something.
	There was a guy who worked with Project Veritas who did exactly what you're thinking and has all the internal documents, the internal recordings.
	Them asking him, would you like to break the law?
	And they're like, I'm not sure about that.
	And then they're like, right, demoted.
	Literally, that's when he leaves.
	Literally O'Brien going, are you going to throw acid in the child's face?
	I'm not sure how well then you're out.
	That's exactly what happens.
	The guy infiltrates.
	It's like a year or something.
	He's got the internal documents for the basic stuff.
	And then to go to the higher levels, so then to be fully accepted, they ask him about rioting and breaking people's windows and stuff to defeat capitalism.
	And he's like, yeah, not sure about that.
	And then they're just like, cut him off.
	There's just no more promotions.
	It's actually the party.
	Yeah, really is the party.
	Anyway, we'll end there.
	It's a good book.
	I'm going to keep plugging it.
	I'm not getting paid to do this.
	I just like it.
	Anyway.
	We just support Andy, damn it.
	Yeah, well, he's a good guy.
	So if you want more content from us, go to loadershears.com.
	As I mentioned, it's a load of premium content.
	If you want to read our book club review of the book with Andy there, I think it's actually free as well.
	So it's not just for premium members.
	It's not a very good way of recruiting people to sign up.
	Well, on the premium stuff, we've got plenty of other good stuff.
	Don't worry.
	Like the 1984 book club if you want to see it in depth.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, otherwise, thank you for tuning in.
	We will be back tomorrow at 1 o'clock.
	We're going to go off and do some filming with the Epochs and whatnot.

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