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	Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 12th of May 2021.
	I am joined by Beau today.
	A little bit of a white pill Wednesday.
	So, first things I wanted to get into was that we're going to be talking about the French Civil War second letter.
	So the French have decided, well the military in this regard, have signed a second letter warning of civil war if the law is not enforced.
	So, France.
	Pretty radicalised place.
	Beau's going to be white-pilling us on the advancement in space telescopes and the images of black holes that we've got coming out to hopefully bring us back up after we go into some territory there.
	And also, the free speech legislation is finally coming to the UK. So the Free Speech Union, the good guys there, have been seemingly successful in lobbying the Secretary of Education to bring through defences for free speech on university campuses.
	Because, I mean, the UK has been a complete mess for years on this front.
	It's only gotten worse in the last couple of years.
	And now it will be the case that if you are taken away, you'll be able to sue for compensation because you're having your rights taken away.
	Or if they de-platform you, you've got some recourse now.
	Because it's government funded.
	Great, great.
	Anyway, before we get into that...
	Let's do a little bit of shilling.
	So, first thing here is the Lauren Southern article we had on before.
	So, Lauren sent us two pieces.
	There was some miscommunication about whether it should be two different articles or one, but it's all put together now.
	So, if you've read this, go and check it out.
	There's another section on there.
	And if you haven't read it, go and check it out because it is now free.
	It's on NoticedEaters.com, The Rise of Systemic Tabloisism by Lauren Southern.
	So, go and give that a read.
	Also, Hugo's published a new article here, which is a new premium article, so only for premium members, in which you can read about the quest for vote equality, in which he's interviewing some people about the voting systems.
	Anyway, without further ado, let's get right into it.
	So...
	This one might not be fun.
	Just going to warn that.
	So the French Civil War inches ever closer.
	So we've previously spoken about the fact that there was a letter published that was signed by, what was it, 20 generals?
	A lot of them were retired.
	Yeah, mostly retired, but they get the rank of general still.
	Some standing members of the military who were in trouble, by the sounds of it, for signing this.
	And it was a letter warning the French government Get control of Islamo-leftism and the spread of Islamism in France, or we're edging towards a civil war.
	I mean, pretty stern stuff.
	And, okay, yeah.
	I mean, this is what a lot of people have been warning for a long time with the way France has been going.
	And the response was, you can't say these things, you need to shut these guys up.
	And, yeah, okay, guys in the military can see the argument, but you can't ignore the threat.
	And I've only clicked today, because Josh mentioned it, You notice how Macron suddenly changed his tune on the whole thing.
	He's like, no, Islamism's bad.
	Islamo-leftism needs to be crushed.
	And you've got to wonder whether or not his defense secretary was whispering to him about some words in the military that were going on.
	And then, you know, okay, we'll change the government messaging.
	Well, that is interesting, absolutely, isn't it?
	When policy can come down from one individual, the leader of a country, and when they suddenly turn on a dime like that.
	It's got to be a reason.
	Yeah, it's not for no reason.
	They haven't just suddenly woken up and had an epiphany out of nowhere.
	There'll be politics behind that, for sure.
	Of course, we don't know, but what you just said makes perfect sense to me.
	I hadn't thought about it until Josh mentioned it, and I'm like, actually, yeah, that's probably true.
	Or maybe just the spin doctors were like, you need to be harder on this, otherwise you will lose at the next election.
	Maybe it's more that, I don't know.
	Of course.
	There have been more developments.
	So I said there's a second letter published.
	But firstly, I want to say that Michel Barnier, you remember him from the negotiations about Brexit, him representing the European Union, has suggested that France should suspend immigration for three to five years.
	Based.
	So he gave some interview on French TV, and I've had to rely on other people translating it because I don't speak frog.
	And he says in here, I'm not talking about students or refugees who we need to treat with great humanity and take care, but we need to examine all the procedures.
	We have to discuss Schengen with our neighbours, and we have to apply controls on borders.
	We need to be more rigorous.
	The problems of immigration are not moderate.
	I know, as a politician, I am to see the problems, how they are for the French people, experience them, and to find solutions.
	Also, he warned of the terrorist networks which come within migratory flows which the terrorists are infiltrating.
	I was like, okay, that's not bad.
	You might think a little bit soppy in some areas, but no.
	I mean, he's literally saying suspend immigration for two to five years maybe because of the amount of problems we have in France.
	Also, he might have to discuss Schengen with our neighbours.
	I mean, this has happened previously in which the members of the Schengen countries have suddenly decided Schengen doesn't apply and applied border controls.
	But also the threat from ISIS, which has been proven to be true, that they carried out, which is they would send terrorists with the migrant chains.
	And they have.
	And they've carried out terrorist attacks.
	So, I mean, good that he's acknowledging that.
	Well, talking about the Schengen area, I mean, they're touching on Frexit.
	Is that what people say?
	Frexit?
	I don't know what the mood in France is anymore.
	I think they might have given up on that.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	But still, it's in that way.
	That's interesting.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, but as for sort of suspending immigration into France, I mean, why not stop there?
	Why not have a system of deportations of those that probably hundreds of thousands or millions of people that are there that shouldn't be?
	Well, the French interior minister said exactly that, if you remember.
	I mean, this is kind of stuff that in British politics may be considered extreme, but we'll get into why France seems to be this way.
	And I think it was he said that if people oppose the drawings of cartoons in schools, we'll deport you.
	No discussion, you're getting deported.
	Nice.
	It's like, okay, yeah, actually.
	I mean, what conversation are you going to have with that guy?
	I mean, the parent you're talking to there is of the opinion that French society is evil.
	And investigate the local community or immediate family members.
	Why do they think that?
	What's going on exactly?
	Let's look into that exactly, what's going on there, but okay.
	That'll be the position of the French state.
	So I love how this is also very much like take back control.
	I love the guy for the EU here.
	It's like, let's take back control of our borders, institute border controls, the terrorists are trying to use them.
	It's like, if Nigel Farage had come out tomorrow before this guy and said, let's suspend all immigration to Britain for two to five years.
	I mean, they'd be a bit cluster F, wouldn't they?
	People being mad about it, but anyway.
	So the second letter that I mentioned has been published.
	So this is France 24 reporting on it.
	So anger in France over civil war warning.
	So this is the second one.
	The government of French President Emmanuel Macron reacted with fury on Monday after a group of serving French soldiers published an open letter warning that civil war was brewing under his conscience.
	Oh, he's angry.
	Oh, he's annoyed.
	Macron's annoyed.
	Yeah, Macron was...
	He reacted with fury.
	Oh, Macron's...
	He's angry about it, is he?
	Oh, that's rich.
	I mean, I do agree that the military shouldn't be making threats to the state under normal circumstances.
	But as we get into, France is not in a normal place and hasn't been for a while.
	So they say in here, in contrast to the previous message, the latest letter can be signed by members of the public.
	And the right wing outlet that published the first letter has published the second one, saying that more than 160,000 people have done so since Monday.
	So it does seem like it's the army and the people versus the government, almost.
	It's only the pro-EU globalists at the very top that seem to actively want more immigration from Muslim countries, the majority of the people.
	Mass migration, yeah.
	I mean, I don't really know the situation in France.
	As I say, we're not French.
	We're not in tune with the political French scenes.
	We don't know how widespread this is or if it's a niche thing, but we can only see what we can see.
	But yeah, the absolute...
	Meltdown there.
	Good God.
	You would not get this kind of thing in Britain in mainstream politics, but you do in France.
	So let's go to the letter itself.
	And again, I've had to run this through Google Translate because I don't speak French.
	And we're going to read it if there's any mistakes.
	My bad, but that's all I can do.
	So I've taken out a few bits as well.
	We're not going to read the whole thing because, again, it's just way too long.
	And so it starts.
	These people who fought against all the enemies of France, the guys who signed the previous letter, you have treated them as factitious when their only fault is to love their country and to mourn its visible downfall.
	Mm-mm.
	Statement of fact?
	Is that not?
	They're literally just like, we need to save the country.
	We're going to be in civil war territory if you don't do something, Macron.
	They weren't even asking for anything radical.
	They were saying, enforce the laws we have.
	I mean, there's nothing radical about that.
	So, true.
	Under these circumstances, it is up to us, who have recently entered the Korea, to enter the arena simply to have the honour of telling the truth.
	So those who have entered the military, so as the previous article said, serving members of the military, have published this.
	Yeah, so it's different really, isn't it?
	Quite fundamentally different to just a handful of mostly retired to the actual army now, in some senses.
	That's not small.
	Yeah, things are ramping up there.
	If this happened in Britain, everyone would be losing their minds.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Good God.
	So, um, they continue.
	We are what the newspapers have called the fire generation.
	Men and women, active soldiers of all the armies and of all ranks, of all sensibilities.
	We love our country.
	In Afghanistan, Mali, Central African Republic, or elsewhere, a number of us have experienced enemy fire.
	Some of us have left comrades there.
	They offered their skin to destroy the Islamism to which you are making concessions to on our soil.
	Again, seems factually correct, does it not?
	How are you going to argue against that?
	It's like, well, why were we in any of those countries to fight the Islamists?
	Why?
	Because Islamism is bad.
	You know, it's an awful set of values that makes, you know, disgusting conditions.
	Okay, then why are we allowing this to take place in the mother country?
	I think just moral and actual cowardice from the leadership.
	What other reason is there?
	Other than someone like Macron is himself an Islamist, which he is, and obviously I'm not saying he is.
	So what other reason is there other than a type of moral cowardice?
	I mean, this is what's been mentioned in the previous letter and in this one.
	We have laws.
	Enforce them.
	That's all that's being asked.
	It's not an unreasonable request.
	And the same thing has happened in Britain.
	The same thing has happened in Sweden and Germany.
	I mean, the United States and the North Americans have been spared most of the absurdities that have happened in Europe and Britain.
	So they say in here that, in response to saying we've all fought in these countries to fight Islamism, almost all of us have known Operation Sentinel.
	So for people who don't know, Operation Sentinel is why there are French soldiers all over France still.
	So you remember in 2015, there were a series of terrorist attacks, and in response, a state of emergency was declared in France, and 10,000 soldiers were sent to defend French soldiers.
	You know, tourist areas, places of interest, places that would be subject to terrorist attacks.
	Anywhere.
	Cafes, stadiums, the street.
	Yep.
	I mean, literally nowhere was safe, and they are still there.
	If you go to Paris, I went to Paris a couple of years ago or something now, and yeah, you just walk down the street and you see soldiers everywhere with rifles in their uniforms.
	I mean, like you're in an occupied state or something.
	It's not normal at all.
	And that's how they live.
	And I, you know, as a foreigner going there, I was just like, this is nuts.
	This is not normal at all.
	So.
	I just want to say in here, so it was in response to, and we're going to list some of them, I can't list them all by name or anything because I don't have the knowledge all the time.
	So it's Charlie Hebdo happened, there was a hostage crisis that took place, two shootings, there was the kosher siege, so it was a kosher supermarket in which there was a siege in which 17 people were killed and also three terrorists were killed.
	Then it expanded after, in November 2015, there were coordinated attacks all over Paris.
	So there was the football stadiums, which you might remember, there were two guys who turned up and suicide bombed themselves.
	There were also shootings of people at cafes who were just out drinking coffee.
	And then there was the Bataclan massacre.
	If we can get the first image up, I mean, this is something we've shown before, but to really get the point home...
	France has not had a good time.
	Really not a good time of these last few years in terms of terrorism.
	I mean, it looks like a country that has been terrorised successfully because it's not a normal place by the looks of it.
	And, you know, look at the UK. We've had serious problems and we just pale in comparison for the numbers of deaths.
	Well, don't they in France quite often get, well, lots of church killings?
	Yeah, just random people.
	Like there was a priest who was beheaded by a boy with a penknife and he killed him and they just cut off his head.
	And then they'll just go into a church and there'll be some really old people in there.
	Yeah, some nuns.
	Why would you target a nun?
	Well, there's theological reasons, aren't there?
	No one wants to talk about that.
	Yeah, almost all of this.
	I mean, this isn't the far right or the far left.
	It is the Islamists.
	It is the Islamists.
	It's not rampant crusaders.
	And we're going to go through the Balaklan massacre.
	So if you've got kids in the room or something, I'm just going to say put on some headphones because it's going to get pretty grim.
	It's about as dark as it gets, really, isn't it?
	I'm not going to do this for no reason.
	The reason I read through this, I went through the parliamentary inquiry, and I've cut out some bits that I'm going to read of what happened.
	Because I don't just want to gross you out or something.
	I want to try and explain this letter.
	And again, I'm not French, I don't understand the political scene there.
	But to look at a society that is radicalized to the point where you've got members of the military and retired generals calling for a coup.
	I mean, it's weird.
	I want people to maybe understand why this is why it is.
	So in Bathaclan, so Bathaclan was the theater in which there was a rock band playing.
	And part of those coordinated attacks, there were two guys who tried to get an entrance to a football stadium and then blew themselves up.
	There were the people who were shot in cafes, and then this was the third big thing of the night.
	I mean, all at the same time, it was hell to look at, I don't mind living there.
	So the three French natives, I mean that's something to keep in mind, the terrorists here.
	They're Frenchmen.
	They are actually Frenchmen, they are citizens.
	They're completely French, sure.
	But they are French citizens, that's the thing.
	It's a homegrown problem, it's not something of just immigrants.
	It is, you're having people radicalised on your soil that you can't just deport.
	I mean this is something you've really got to get down into the neighbourhoods to deal with.
	So they got out of their car, outside of the Balaclan.
	I don't know.
	The gunman also fired into the balconies.
	The dead bodies fell down onto the stalls below for a few minutes.
	The hall was plunged into darkness.
	With only flashes of the assault rifles, the gunman kept shooting.
	The terrorists shouted that they were there because of French airstrikes against the Islamic State.
	If you bomb the Islamic State, you'll make an enemy of these people.
	A radio reporter attending the concert described the terrorists as calm and determined.
	He said they reloaded three or four times.
	The gunman attacked the concert hall.
	One gunman would cover his fire while the other reloaded to ensure maximum efficiency.
	I mean, these guys were trained.
	They knew what they were doing.
	Leave all Muslim lands and we're going to kill the hostages.
	Not a negotiation.
	No, it's not going to happen.
	So it went to a shootout.
	And of course, the police then ran in.
	I mean, the heroic police.
	I mean, I've seen the pictures you showed me of the police with the bullet holes all over their shields.
	They ran in, shot the guys, got the hostages out.
	One of the guys just died.
	He was shot to death.
	The other two blew themselves up with their suicide vests.
	I mean, really horrific, but we're going to get into why they are not just average terrorists.
	These guys are barbarians.
	So if you can go to the parliamentary inquiry, I went to the parliamentary inquiry and just Google translated it and then read through what I could, and it's not great.
	So again, I mean, if you've got kids, put some headphones on.
	I mean, it's an insult to barbarians to call these guys barbarians.
	Yeah, they're on another level of barbarian.
	So presumably some parliamentarian is infuring this guy called Mr.
	P.T., He says, So he responds, did you see acts of torture on the second floor?
	Mr.
	Petey responds, I think so, because I entered the ground floor level where there was nothing like it, only people hit with bullets.
	So on the ground floor, they opened fire, and then they went upstairs and they tortured people.
	And he gives this quote, and this quote is disgusting, but it's a quote which I'm going to have to read because I don't think it deserves to be unread.
	So the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter which he transmitted to the examining magistrate, which I quote in summary.
	Quote, I found that he no longer had a right eye.
	I made the remark.
	I was told that they had gouged out his eye and sunk into the right side of his face, resulting in very significant bruises.
	That's what we saw when we put him in the coffin.
	I mean, that's what you're dealing with.
	I mean, these are not just barbarians.
	They're the worst kind of barbaric scum.
	And they carry out this sort of thing in Paris, killing hundreds of people.
	I mean, you've seen the last five years.
	I mean, there is no country in Europe that has suffered worse.
	But Hollande said it was a religion of peace, though.
	Didn't David Cameron and Obama echo that as well?
	So...
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so let's go back to the letter, because, I mean, that's the context of this sort of thing.
	And I didn't read that for no reason.
	I read it, so I could hopefully explain the whole thing.
	Why are we looking at the military claiming we need a coup?
	And it's not just the terrorism, of course.
	There are the social issues.
	There are the riots.
	There is the inability of women to go out in certain places.
	There is a cultural conflict, shall we say.
	But they continue, the soldiers who wrote this letter.
	Yes, our elders are right about the substance of their text, in its entirety.
	We see violence in our towns and villages.
	We see communitarianism taking hold in the public space, in public debate.
	We see the hatred for France and its history becoming the norm.
	It may not be for the military to say that, you will argue.
	Quite the contrary.
	Because we are apolitical in our assessments of the situation, it is a professional observation that we deliver.
	Not a moment too soon, or a bit late, you might even say.
	They finish.
	Yes, if a civil war breaks out, the army will maintain order over its own soil, because it will be asked to.
	It is even the definition of a civil war.
	No one will want such a terrible situation.
	Our elders know more than us.
	But yes, again, civil war is brewing in France and you know it perfectly well.
	Take action, ladies and gentlemen.
	This time, it is not about custom emotion, ready-made formulas, or media coverage.
	It is not a question of extending your mandates or conquering others.
	It is about the question of the survival of our country, of your country.
	It's unbelievable language.
	I've never seen a petition written so beautifully and emotionally on a point in which you can just see, I mean, in the context of what France has experienced.
	It doesn't even look crazy.
	It doesn't look radical at all.
	It looks exactly what you would expect.
	I mean, if this sort of thing had happened in Serbia, no.
	What you would be expecting would be utter barbarism in response.
	And in circumstances, the French seem to be acting as civilized as civilized people could.
	Unbelievable restraint in many ways.
	I suppose some of the concepts that are at the heart of the French experience, that's one way to put it, you know, liberté, égalité, fraternité, you know, freedom, equality, brotherhood of man, all those things, they're mostly incompatible, it seems, with the main tenets of Islam.
	Entirely.
	I mean, Tony Blair has said as much.
	You don't even need to take some right-winger's word for it.
	Like, Tony Blair has said millions of Muslims hold views that are incompatible with the Western world.
	It's just a factual observation.
	Islamism can't exist with liberalism.
	It just can't mesh.
	I just wanted to mention the last thing there.
	That petition that we mentioned, I just checked.
	So it was yesterday.
	It had 1.9 million unique visitors to that, and it had 250,000 signatures from the public.
	And as mentioned, the original signatories presumably being members of the current army, because they're riding that in that town.
	Isn't it in there, National Anthem, for citizens to be called to arms, to form barricades if necessary?
	Yeah.
	All that sort of thing is quite heavily ingrained within the French psyche, I thought.
	Well, we'll see how it goes.
	Yeah, but I mean, I'm not trying to shock you.
	I'm not trying to be gross.
	I want to explain the context and hopefully put some light onto why they're in this situation.
	And I mean, I've seen Douglas Murray talk about it before, in which he says that, you know, okay, give them some slack.
	I don't care what they're saying.
	They're still being unbelievably civilized considering what they've gone through.
	And he's totally right.
	I mean, just read what's happened and you're like, okay, most other countries would have done completely uncivilized things in response.
	The French have been nothing but civilized in their response.
	And let's see if they actually enforce the law or if things just get worse, I guess.
	But that's how France is.
	One angle I think might be worth thinking about is...
	It's an obvious thing to say, but this is the result of unchecked mass immigration.
	And so the people that are responsible for that, people like Nicolas Sarkozy or Francois Hollande, Many, many, many people.
	There seems to be no real debate, no real question that they should be held responsible in any way.
	That's just water under the bridge.
	Don't worry about it now.
	But in fact, these people are still alive.
	We know who they are.
	That have done this.
	I mean, it's weird because you see Tony Blair, for example, the man who is, you know, big multiculturalism, mass migration.
	You know, you see him going around saying, actually, I done goofed.
	I done goofed big time.
	It's like, yeah, you did done goof big time, letting so many people in who have views that are fundamentally incompatible with the West, as you put it.
	It's like, well, there you go.
	That's the result.
	But we're going to move on because of time.
	But...
	Yeah, black pill.
	I was just going to relax out of that because otherwise, how are we going to get off this white pill?
	Bo, cheer me up.
	Oh, we're going to attempt a white pill after that.
	After the blackest black pill of all time.
	I was going to do that yesterday.
	I was just like, no, I'm going to wait for Bo's white pill because that's too black.
	Oh, so you've deliberately taken a crap on the white pill.
	You're kneading the filth into my white pill today.
	Do you want to introduce so that I can cut it?
	Okay, yeah.
	OK, well, today, Whitepool Wednesday, the second Whitepool Wednesday, the first of many, hopefully, I thought I'd talk a bit about space telescopes and black holes and the very recent things that have gone down in that sphere.
	Because last week, people seemed to, a fair amount of the comments, people seemed to like the So, in the last few days, or last week or so, we've had some new images released by, well, there's various telescopes.
	There's actually quite a lot of space telescopes.
	People will probably be aware of Hubble.
	But there's a dozen more.
	There's like 17, for example, were involved just in this one piece of research, one paper that I'm going to talk about here.
	So there are actually quite a lot of different space telescopes up there.
	And we've been able to make some great images.
	John, I don't know if you get up the very first picture.
	So, I'm interested in...
	I've got a fair few YouTube channels that are science-y based ones, astronomy-based ones that I like.
	Of course, my thing, my wheelhouse is history.
	But as an amateur, I'm very, very interested in science stuff.
	In one of the comments from last week, someone mentioned Anton Petrov.
	I don't know if you know that channel.
	But when I saw that comment, I was happy because I follow him very closely.
	And he's good on that.
	But there's lots of channels.
	Event Horizon is one with John Michael Godier.
	If people are into this stuff, they probably know this stuff.
	Isaac Arthur, 60 Symbols, Dr Becky.
	Anyway, in the last week or so, there's been quite a lot of talk about...
	Well, one of the biggest black holes in our region of space is called M87. Well, that's the name of the galaxy, the entire galaxy.
	It's one of the most...
	It's the biggest, most massive galaxy anywhere near us, M87. And at the centre of that is a supermassive black hole.
	And people might remember that it was about two years ago, in 2019, we first got the first image of that.
	And it wasn't in, as you can imagine, it's not in sort of fantastic quality because it's so far away.
	It's 50 million light years away.
	However...
	So what is this we're looking at here?
	Oh, sorry.
	So this image is our Milky Way.
	That's obviously from Earth.
	And that sort of stretch of stars, you can see a pathway of stars there.
	Lots of...
	That's one of the spirals.
	Sorry?
	That's one of the spirals, right?
	Well, we're on the outer edge of one of the spirals and we're looking sort of into the middle.
	You're looking back in towards the middle of the Milky Way there.
	And ancient people thought of it as a type of a pathway to the gods or a pathway to the heavens.
	In Chinese and Japanese cultures, they thought of it as things like a silver river.
	Or in ancient Indian cultures, I've heard the Ganges of the sky and things like this.
	So lots and lots of cultures and civilizations saw that because that's actually quite difficult to see.
	You need very, very clear skies to see that with the naked eye and you need, you know, sort of no light pollution at all.
	I don't think I've ever seen that with my own eyes, anything approaching that with my own eyes.
	I don't know if you have.
	But anyway, that is the Milky Way at our galaxy.
	Anyway, you were saying about black holes, sorry.
	Yeah, and it wasn't that long ago when we didn't even know for sure whether there was a black hole at the centre of every single galaxy or not.
	We weren't 100% sure.
	They thought, I'm talking like 10, 15 years ago, they suspected there were.
	Anyway, now we think there is almost certainly a black hole at the centre of every galaxy.
	Our one, they call it Sagittarius A, Sagittarius A star, they call it, which is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy.
	Because the Earth and our Sun is sort of in the same plane as the majority of all the stars in our solar system, it's actually very, very, very difficult to see the black hole at the centre of the Milky Way.
	Very difficult, because there's just so much stuff in between.
	So it's easier to image black holes in other galaxies, even if they're millions of light years away.
	So there's one project or a team.
	Well, first of all, I should probably explain.
	There's all different types of light on the electromagnetic spectrum of which visible light is only one small tiny bit.
	People probably know that, you know, at one end, the more energetic end, you've got sort of gamma rays coming back, you've got sort of X-rays, the ultraviolet, then our visible range of light, and then there's infrared, microwaves, radar and radio at the end.
	So anyway, you can look into space with all those different types of light.
	So, radio telescopes are a thing.
	You might remember the Arecibo telescope.
	It features in GoldenEye, the movie GoldenEye.
	Have you seen that?
	I haven't seen it before.
	Oh, it's quite old.
	I suppose it is from the 90s now.
	Just a giant, giant telescope.
	Anyway, radio telescopes are a thing.
	And perhaps, do you know if you could put up the first clip we've got?
	So here's just, we're sort of zooming in on our Milky Way galaxy here.
	I should narrate it if people can't see what's going on.
	And we are able to get what I think is pretty fantastic detail.
	But it's very, very difficult.
	This is mainly optical.
	This is actually visible light.
	But when we get closer and closer, they have to change to different forms of light.
	So anyway, when we end up right at the very centre, you'll be able to see, or not see as the case may be, A point around which the closest stars, the most central stars in our galaxy, are rotating or revolving around.
	And I mentioned it's a point that you can't see.
	There's nothing particularly to see.
	I think actually on this image there is some sort of flashing.
	But anyway, let's have a quick look at this.
	So you can see that things are orbiting around some sort of point there.
	And that will be, that is the centre of our galaxy.
	As I say, Sagittarius A, which is a black hole which is about 4.3 million solar masses, which as black holes go is a massive one, but not sort of the biggest out there.
	So that's confirmed now, it is actually a black hole at the centre of?
	Yeah, yeah, Sagittarius A. Yeah, that's right.
	And it's relatively dormant.
	Some black holes sort of are feasting on matter around them and they'll have an accretion disk of matter and they'll be shooting out giant jets of particles.
	How long did that take, that clip there, when you saw it zooming around?
	Oh yeah, I'm not sure exactly.
	It's a very good question.
	I'm not sure exactly.
	But I believe the stars moving closest to it are moving insanely fast, like a decent chunk of the speed of light, which is incredible, really.
	So, even though we can't really see the black hole at the centre of our galaxy very well, if there are other galaxies that are angled such a way that we can sort of see straight down into it, or more or less, then we're likely to be able to get a better view.
	And one of these is the galaxy M87. Now they've been able to see, or been able to measure in various ways, that it's something in the region of 6.5 billion solar masses.
	I mean, it's mind-blowing.
	I know a lot of figures and a lot of numbers about space are mind-blowing.
	It's very difficult to really get a grasp on what that really is, what that means.
	And I'm not denying that.
	It is difficult.
	I can't really properly picture it.
	But the black hole, the event horizon of it...
	They think it's just way bigger than our entire solar system, even.
	And you can have all sorts of black holes.
	You can have very small black holes, they think now.
	Primordial black holes.
	That maybe you can have a black hole that's like the size of a baseball or something.
	That that's possible?
	We're not sure.
	But anyways, there's a certain breed of black hole that's supermassive.
	And the one at the heart of M87 is just that.
	And they've been able to...
	They've been able to picture it quite well.
	Junkie Park Picture 3...
	So this is it.
	And this is an X-ray image.
	As I said before, there's all different types of light, one of which is types of radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum.
	And this is X-rays.
	So we're looking at X-rays here.
	It's from the space telescope Chandra.
	And right at the middle there, that is M87, right in the middle, and as you can see, there's something sort of shooting out of it, isn't there?
	There's some sort of jet there shooting out of it.
	So is that Hawking's radiation?
	No, no, no, no.
	I believe Hawking radiation is something where the odd particle here or there can sort of spontaneously exist outside of the event horizon.
	That's something else.
	That jet is where the accretion disk, so the matter that goes around the black hole, they think now that black holes have, apart from anything else...
	An insanely powerful magnetic field.
	That's what destroys and rips up everything around it.
	And we don't fully understand why, but because of that magnetic field, it ends up at the poles of the black hole, shooting out giant jets.
	There would be another jet coming the other way.
	We just don't see it very well because of the angle that we look at.
	Because that jet is not firing straight towards Earth in any way, but the angle of it is sort of towards us.
	So we'd be looking down or looking up at, whichever way you want to picture it in your mind, at this galaxy.
	So that jet is in fact a 5,000 light-year long jet of particles shooting straight out of one of the poles of the supermassive black hole at the centre of M87. That's what we're looking at there.
	And the particles, the matter that's being shot out there is, they say, something like 99% the speed of light.
	So the forces involved, the power involved is comical.
	I mean, it's just, you can't picture it, you know, if you want to accelerate actual matter, not just photons, but matter, to 99% the speed of light...
	The power, the forces involved to do that, almost astronomical.
	You can only find it in nature.
	It's not something humans could probably ever do.
	No, no, no, no.
	I mean, well, in particle accelerators, they accelerate.
	It's like one atom or something.
	So, can we look at image five, actually?
	Can we just jump to image five there?
	So that is the image that came out in about 2019 and it set the scientific world off because that is an image of the black hole.
	It's x-ray.
	We're still looking at it here in x-ray.
	This is an optical light.
	But that's really quite an amazing thing.
	We never had any image of a black hole at all until 2019.
	And there it is.
	And it looks like the circle around the donut of orange around that is the accretion disk of matter that orbits around the black hole.
	But very recently, if John can go to the next one, number six, we've got it in better detail now.
	I mean, look, that's way better detail, isn't it?
	And you can see that That what's going on there is probably, again, to do with the magnetic field, crazily strong magnetic field that's doing that.
	But you can see how we're moving on, how we're getting better and better and better at these things.
	And, well, could we look at number seven?
	Okay, so...
	Well, I believe that's in the radio there.
	Could you go back one?
	It was to that picture of that one, yeah.
	Okay, so in order to see deeper and deeper into space, kind of obviously, you need more and more powerful telescopes, or space telescopes.
	This actually isn't one of the space telescopes.
	So what this is, is an array of all different types of Earth-based telescopes working together to effectively make a lens that's almost the size of the Earth.
	I mean, how incredible is that?
	And they only realised that that would even be possible in about 2006.
	And now they've done it.
	They're doing it.
	You can even see there's one down on the Antarctic there, which is quite incredible.
	Yeah, so that's the Event Horizon Telescope.
	So yeah, that is what we were able to get, those incredible images of that black hole there.
	But you can also see it in other types of light, like we can actually turn Hubble, people know about the Hubble Space Telescope, which works in optical light, and its mirror is I think about three metres, Which is kind of incredible to get a space telescope up that's that big.
	The James Webb will be coming soon.
	I'll talk about that one day, hopefully.
	Big fan of the James Webb Telescope, which isn't optical, but anyway.
	So I think that's incredible.
	I think that speaks of a type of cooperation between humans, which is, well, remarkable.
	It should be something of a white pill.
	I said in the other one, the other Wednesday, didn't I, that humans sort of do anything and everything all at once.
	We do the crazy, insane, backward stuff and we do the noble, amazing, you know, mind-blowingly good things.
	And we do it all at once.
	I think maybe we take people on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster today where we...
	Right, and the very depths of the darkest things humans do, to the tippity-top of the mountain, where we do the most incredible things.
	I mean, effectively making a type of device to peer into space that's the size of the Earth.
	Wow!
	Right?
	I mean, we thought that that could be possible, and then we just did it.
	I think that's quite an incredible thing.
	Quite often people will see something like that or hear about something like that and just be a bit like, oh well, yeah, cool, I suppose, that's just another thing that's in the world now.
	But I think it's worth pausing on just a bit, just momentarily.
	It's almost like flashes of a Type 1 civilisation, you know?
	It does feel like progress, don't you think?
	It does feel like we are going forward.
	You know, of course, in the realms of...
	Religion and politics, perhaps less so, but in the realms of science, I mean, I touched on the point last Wednesday as well, but I think if you were to look back, say it's 10,000 years from now, when historians were looking back at the 21st century, I hope, I really do hope that a lot of our sort of silly leftist wokeness is sort of...
	Not really remembered too much.
	And the main thing is that it's the age of the internet.
	Or it's the age of space exploration.
	It's the age of the James Webb Space Telescope.
	That sort of thing.
	You know, hopefully that will be the case.
	If they lose, yeah.
	If they win, they'll be checking each other's pronouns.
	Yeah, perhaps.
	Yes, perhaps.
	So, yeah, I mean...
	We were looking deep into space.
	Have you got picture 8 there?
	So again here's another image of M87 and you can see the main jet that we've already seen spewing out of the right hand side of it there and there would be a jet the other way which we don't see very well but on this particular image We do see at least, you know, the remnants of the more further away cloud that is created.
	So there would actually be two jets, but we only really see one in any detail.
	And they've zoomed in on it a bit there for you.
	And I believe that is in the radio as well.
	But anyway, if we could go to number nine, please, John.
	So that is...
	That is from Hubble.
	So that is visible light.
	That's the optical spectrum there.
	That's sort of real, if you know what I mean.
	That's real.
	That's, you know, not an artist's impression.
	So, again, maybe I hope I'm not, you know, being too over the top here, but I find that incredible.
	Just really incredible.
	We're looking at something It's mind-blowing that that jet of particles there is moving something like the speed of light, not very close to, obviously, not the speed of light, but very close to.
	It's about 5,000 light years long, which actually I think in the scheme of black hole jets isn't that long.
	There could be millions of light years long, but that one's about 5,000 light years.
	And the other things they can tell from it are that it's not sort of a perfectly uniform jet of particles there, is it?
	There's all sorts of different knots within it.
	In fact, the main one you can see is the main white knot that's right in the middle of the screen there, and they call it knot A, which probably left the black hole about 2,000 years ago, roughly.
	In the age of Augustus or something, that's when M87, the supermassive black hole at the heart of M87, that's when it first spat out that around the age of Christ.
	Interesting to think.
	Well, of course, it's about 53, 55 million light years away.
	So, in fact, it happened about 55 million years ago.
	But nevertheless, not taking that into account.
	When the light reached us, it was like 2,000 years before.
	And the jet is remarkably straight, isn't it?
	You would think that maybe it might sort of billow out straight away, but they think, I've heard one scientist say, it might have been Dr Becky, even, off of YouTube, I can't remember exactly, but they were saying that the particles, they're moving so fast, That they can't interact with each other.
	The physics won't allow for it.
	Therefore, they keep in perfectly straight jets.
	Just little things like that I find fascinating.
	I mean, really fascinating.
	Almost to the point where, if I had my time again, I might go back and try harder at physics.
	I mean, I got my GCSE double science and my GCSE maths, just about, and left it there.
	Was sort of happy to leave it there.
	So, sort of...
	My formal skills as a competent 16-year-old, and no more than that.
	I'm just a fan.
	We had a couple of comments last week where people say, when you're outside your wheelhouse, when you're outside your realm of expertise, you shouldn't really be talking about it.
	I think that's wrong-headed.
	Anyone should be able to talk about anything more or less.
	Because last week, actually a correction from last week, I mentioned that the power unit...
	On the back of Perseverance was a nuclear reactor.
	And that's just wrong.
	That's just wrong.
	Because you referred to it as the correct thing, didn't you?
	I think I called it an RTG, but yeah, it's just for ease of...
	And quite a few people said it's not a nuclear reactor.
	So I'd stand corrected there.
	So again, if I get the odd phrase or word wrong, you know, I'm just trying to bring sort of a childlike awe to these things rather than claiming to be a true expert.
	Well, maybe if we just move on then.
	The last image for this, number 10.
	Oh, so there you can see.
	There you can see the supermassive black hole at the heart of M87 in three different things.
	They're in X-ray, in radio and in optical from the Hubble Space Telescope.
	And this is quite new.
	You know, the team that did this, they collected all the research in 2017, worked on it for years, and it only came out about a week ago.
	My mind is blown.
	I hope people out there are too.
	And we've got one last clip.
	John, if you want to just whack that up.
	And, well, it sort of speaks for itself, but people who perhaps aren't watching it, I can try and describe it a bit.
	We're just going to zoom in, basically, on this giant galaxy which is near us.
	And you can see in the bottom left all the different types of telescope that are being used to show you these images.
	So is this the planet-wide telescope you were talking about that's done this, or...?
	Yeah, so that does x-ray.
	So when it mentions x-ray, it will be that, yeah.
	Or is it radio?
	There you go, I'm no expert.
	And one thing I suppose I would say about this galaxy as well is it's so massive is that it controls, it sort of dominates the gravity of not only its, of the galaxy, obviously its own galaxy, but of the cluster of galaxies around it.
	That's how powerful this particular black hole is.
	Not only that, but even the clusters of galaxies around that galaxy cluster, this dominates, including ours and Andromeda.
	So in some senses, in some senses, We revolve around this.
	I think that's incredible.
	If it was only in the 20s or 30s when Edwin Hubble realised there were entirely other galaxies, completely separate to our own, and now we're here.
	That's incredible.
	Look, see that?
	It shows the size of...
	It just gives you a comparison of how big that single black hole is.
	It's bigger than our entire solar system and then some.
	Incredible.
	I hope that's...
	A little bit of a science and engineering white pill for people.
	Okay, is that alright?
	Yeah, alright.
	Let's move on because we're running out of time.
	So that was hopefully up from the death pits that is the French situation at the moment.
	Let's go on to the free speech legislation in the UK. So, good news, good news, the Conservative government's done a good thing again, which is...
	Really?
	They're pumping them out, which...
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	Like, we did a lot of moaning about the Conservatives, and I said we'd get back to complaining about the Conservatives not being Conservative when the local election stuff was over, but they seem to be doing good things, so I don't know what to say.
	Kind of embarrassing, but...
	Convince me.
	Anyway.
	Anyway.
	So, they've passed this.
	So, the Conservative government has decided to bring through free speech legislation to defend free speech on college campuses.
	This is something the Free Speech Union has been pushing for a long time, and it seems they've won that fight.
	They've been able to lobby the government on this correctly.
	In the Conservative Party manifesto, they said they were going to do, you know, defending free speech on UK universities, but it was a bit broad.
	So, I mean, they're actually doing the thing now.
	So as you can see here, there's the BBC articles.
	Universities could face fines over free speech breaches.
	So if you are invited as a speaker to go to a university and give a speech, and a bunch of university students do a protest, and in response the university deplatforms you, they literally just disinvite you because they're like, oh, violence could happen.
	Because they're scared of their own communists.
	Yeah, then you're actually able to sue the university.
	Because remember, you pay for these things.
	They get taxpayer money.
	They're not private institutions that have no connection to the government.
	No, they are funded by the state, in large part.
	So, they're saying here that Gavin Williamson is the one who's introduced this.
	I know he's got a lot of flack for some other stuff that people don't like him for, but I don't care.
	Nah, doing good things.
	Seems a good guy.
	He's the Education Secretary.
	So he's brought this through.
	So universities in England could face fines of a new legislation for failing to protect free speech on campus.
	Visiting speakers, academics, or students could seek compensation if they suffer loss from a breach of the university's free speech obligations.
	The Higher Education Freedom of Speech Bill was one of the proposed pieces of legislation in the Queen's Speech on Tuesday.
	So if you're a student or a teacher, you can also sue if you are infringed upon in your right to free speech.
	Again, it's not really a right in the UK because we don't have a written constitution.
	It's obviously a human right, you were born with it, but we don't have it in law.
	But it's the sense of, okay, if you're a university, you're getting public money, you have a duty to defend free speech, and if you don't, we will fine you.
	Perfect.
	Good.
	Good, good conservatives.
	I mean, doing a good thing here.
	So, under the plans, new freedom of speech and academic duties would be placed upon universities, and for the first time, on student unions.
	Because student unions are cancer.
	I mean, they're literally like the turnout as well, like 10% in some of these places, and it's filled with communists and Islamists.
	I mean, the most radical types who will weasel their way through institutions, and student unions are perfect for that sort of thing.
	So that's why they're awful.
	They represent no one but themselves.
	Sorry, I hate student unions.
	It literally is like, oh, we represent the students.
	No, you don't.
	You represent yourself.
	No one voted for you.
	Like, ten people maybe voted for you.
	Scum.
	Anyway, so individuals would be given the right to seek compensation through the courts if their freedom of speech duties of an institution or a student union have been breached.
	The Office for Students, a higher education watchdog in England, would have the power to impose fines on institutions if they breach the rules.
	Among the proposals, there are also appointed free speech champions who would examine potential infringements of their duties.
	For example, the no-platforming of speakers, the dismissal of academics.
	I mean, things we have seen in the UK. I mean, you could probably name off the top of your head a whole bunch of people who have been deplatformed.
	I mean, like, for example, Jermaine Greer, Peter Thatchell, Carl Benjamin, Yaren Brooke, Jacob Rees-Mogg.
	I mean, these are just ones we showed last time when they were proposing that they bring this in.
	Now they're saying, yep, we're going to bring this in.
	Great.
	Great.
	It's just fantastic news.
	So, the government hopes it will change and ensure that university staff will feel safe to put forward controversial or unpopular views without risk of losing their jobs.
	It's a very polite way of putting it, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Controversial or unpopular views?
	No.
	It's usually the truth, isn't it?
	Anti-woke views.
	That's it, and you know it.
	Joe Grady, the head of the University and Teaching Union, aka the Labour Party, let's be honest, said they are, in response, they are serious threats to freedom of expression and academic freedom on campus.
	These proposals.
	The proposal is saying if you break free speech duties, you're going to be fined.
	That's the threat to freedom of speech on campus.
	So says the Labour Party, essentially, let's be honest.
	Just the classic inverse of reality of the truth coming from leftists.
	Classic stuff.
	They come from the government and the university managers, not the staff nor the students.
	If the government wants to strengthen freedom of speech and academic freedom, it shouldn't be policing what can and can't be said on campus and encourage university managers to move staff to be more secure, permanent contracts.
	What?
	I bring through Bill that says, if you censor someone, you're going to get fined.
	And you're like, you're controlling what I can and can't say.
	No, I'm controlling what you can and can't censor.
	Not what you can say, what you censor.
	And she's like, nah, this is the bridgement of free speech.
	Brain dead.
	But I mean, purposely brain dead.
	You can tell these people.
	There's no charity of like, oh, I mean, are they just a bit silly?
	No, she knows.
	She knows she's just lying to your face.
	Snake.
	It would be calculated.
	It's obviously deliberate, isn't it?
	The ultimate motivation is to destroy our societies in some ways, in various ways.
	And so whatever you need to do to do that, argue that...
	Who cares if it's the exact inverse of truth in reality?
	Typical socialist version.
	Just deny the truth.
	Go hell for that.
	So I wanted to go to Gavin Williams' government blog on this because the government has blogs.
	I don't know.
	The world's weird.
	So this is him writing in here his opinion on the whole thing.
	His response is a bit...
	We'll go through it.
	So line by line...
	It is a basic human right, the ability to express ourselves freely and take part in rigorous debate.
	Our legal system allows us to articulate views which others may disagree with as long as they don't meet the threshold of hate speech or inciting violence.
	Cringe that he brought up hate speech, but that statement is true because he says our legal system doesn't allow this.
	That's a true statement.
	It should change.
	There was only someone who could do such a thing about that.
	This must be defended.
	nowhere more so than within our world-renowned universities.
	Is he talking about the right or is he talking about the legal system there?
	It's not perfectly clear.
	But the legal system in the UK is trash.
	It needs reforming.
	And this is the step to doing it.
	So kudos for that.
	Holding universities to account on the importance of freedom of speech in higher education is a milestone moment in fulfilling our manifesto commitment.
	Fair enough.
	You actually fulfilled the thing in your manifesto by doing this.
	Protecting the rights of students and academics and countering the chilling effect of censorship on campus once and for all.
	Modernizing the universities.
	That's what he's doing.
	Because universities in the UK and over the West have been taken over by...
	Dogmatic.
	I almost want to call them reactionary views.
	You know, what is it?
	The regressive left?
	You know, but it's these pathetic types who just want to censor everything that disagrees with them because they've got the new book and the new truth that they want to bash on everyone's heads until they believe in it.
	But yeah, good.
	Gavin Williamson telling the truth there.
	Well, the thing I'd just say about that is you're quite clearly positive and moving in the right direction.
	There's no way I wouldn't want to condemn this or anything at all.
	It's good.
	It's just ultimately good.
	The only thing I would say, though, is, of course, in the United States, It's legally in terms of freedom of speech, but it doesn't seem to matter too much, does it?
	Because people, if they want to, will just ignore it anyway, or they'll just take the fine, or whatever they want to do.
	I'm not saying don't do this.
	I'm not saying that at all.
	Yeah, it's just on university campuses in the US, I don't know what the relationship is, how solid it is.
	If they're taking taxpayers' dollars, though, I mean, it's all the Trump administration were trying to step in on exactly that point.
	That's the right thing to do.
	If they are taking taxpayers' money, they have the duties that come with it.
	They don't just get free cash because Gibbs is not allowed.
	Anyway, so I have a letter from the Free Speech Union.
	I'm signed up for the Free Speech Union as a member.
	I think most people should because they are great guys, and they're the ones who have been type of lobbying on this sort of thing.
	And they sent me an email.
	It's my email, so I can't provide a source for this, but this is just their position on it.
	So they said the Free Speech Union welcomes the inclusion of higher education free speech bill in the Queen's Speech.
	We have intervened in over 100 campus free speech cases since our launch in February last year.
	February last year, they've had 100 cases from universities coming to them saying, hey, I've been censored unduly, please can you help me?
	We need a free speech union in the UK. In and of itself is abhorrent.
	And they said it comes from students and academics alike.
	About two-thirds of those have been in England, and almost every one of those cases, the individual in jeopardy would have been in a stronger position if this law was already on statute books.
	Some examples of cases we've intervened in, such as the no-platforming of Selma Todd, Oxford Professor of Modern History at Exeter University, Oxford.
	The no-platforming of Amber Rudd at the UN Women's Oxford UK Society.
	No platform of Caroline Farrow, the Catholic campaigner at Exeter University Debating Society.
	No platforming of Chris Williamson, the former Labour MP by Royal Holloway Debating Society.
	The banning of Durham University Conservative Association and the Durham University Free Market Association.
	And it goes on and on and on and they give a whole bunch of them.
	I've got to read a couple of them that are funny, but it's the point of like, look, this is not some like fringe issue of just a couple of students have said something naughty and then the university said shoo.
	Like, no, this goes right to the core.
	I mean, even politicians are feeling the heat from the woke culture in the sense that they're being deplatformed from universities.
	This is not any small issue at all.
	The funny ones in here I just have to read because they're hilarious.
	So they say there was an attempt by LGBT activists to get a porter fired from Clare College, Cambridge, for refusing to vote at the Cambridge Council motion in her capacity as Cambridge City Councillor.
	The statement in which they threatened her started with, trans women are women.
	It's just like, like, off to the races, we're just like, we're going to threaten you with wrong think.
	There's also the mandatory unconscious bias training that was taken in Oxford, in which everyone who took it was expected to get 100% score.
	Nothing is accepted except perfect anti-racism.
	Again, these assessments, as Josh has shown, is a complete bunk in the science department.
	So, also, there's a guy who said all lives matter on Twitter, a lecturer.
	He was investigated by his university for a tweet.
	He said all lives matter.
	That was his crime.
	And then there's also the guy from Exeter Students' Union who got an email kicking him out because he had said he was invited to a Black History Month lecture and he said, I'd rather jump down a mineshaft.
	Based.
	But he ends this long list of just like, here's a bunch of cases we've intervened in in which the universities have been, it's just abhorrent.
	Like, you should not be acting in this way.
	Anyone who thinks the protections in universities don't need strengthening hasn't been paying attention.
	Toby Young, director of the Free Speed Junior.
	Right.
	Good guys.
	You've done the job.
	You've got the thing done.
	And there is no argument.
	There is just no argument whatsoever about this.
	Everyone knows, even the leftists know this has been a huge problem.
	Left-wing commentators like Jermaine Greer or Peter Thatchell have faced this kind of culture.
	You've had Labour MPs, as they say, they've had to represent and try and protect.
	It's not just a right-wing thing.
	No, no, no.
	These guys have tried to hurt everyone.
	Of course, it hurts the right the most because this ideology comes from the left.
	But I don't want to just say it's purely partisan because there are a lot of people getting smacked by this.
	Because it's everyone who's anti-woke, which is a huge spectrum of folks.
	So what is the defense?
	Let's go to the socialists, see what they have to say.
	So let's go to the mirror.
	Far right to get compensation for being cancelled in culture war queen speech.
	Yes.
	Yes, socialists.
	Sorry, did you say this was the mail?
	Sorry, the mirror.
	So the socialist outlet.
	But it's just like, yes, the far right and the far left, like you guys who write this newspaper, they're also people.
	And people have human rights.
	It doesn't matter that they're far right.
	It doesn't matter that you're far left.
	You still have human rights and they still need to be protected.
	I mean, it's your money as well.
	I mean, you know, let's take the neo-Nazis of Britain.
	If they still pay taxes, if they're at a public university, they still have rights.
	I know it's a controversial thing to say among socialists, but people have rights, and those rights are to be protected by the state, not to be taken away whenever you feel like it because, comrade, they're a traitor to the revolution.
	But it's just pathetic.
	Like, I'm not even going to give it a time of day, other than I mean, like, look at it.
	Look at it.
	I mean, that's their defence.
	Would the far right have rights too?
	Yes.
	Chad, yes.
	So do you.
	So does the far left.
	So do the liberals.
	So does everyone.
	Not a discussion to be had.
	Pathetic.
	But otherwise, Conservative Party.
	Doing good things.
	I'm not even mad.
	I mean, get rid of section 127 still and all the rest of it.
	But, I mean, what can you be?
	It's a good day.
	It's a good day.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, absolutely.
	I wouldn't criticise it.
	Just hopefully it has some real oomph to it, some real welly.
	It's not just a bit of paper that nobody pays any attention to.
	I'm thinking of like Berkeley, for example, where you've got freedom of speech in America.
	Ben Shapiro or whoever goes somewhere.
	And they're simply riots.
	Things are just simply destroyed and burnt because somebody far-right, which is now quite apparently anyone that isn't completely woke, is just the far-right.
	Anyone and everyone.
	Right of mouth.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, yeah, it's good.
	It's positive.
	I hope it does something.
	I hope it just doesn't, you know, it's just not essentially ignored.
	But yeah, no, it's a positive thing, absolutely.
	It's cool to see.
	Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
	But yeah, hopefully that brings you up from the start of this podcast, which was taking you to the depth of hell.
	In the most political anime of all time, Attack on Titan, Reiner the Armoured Titan destroys Wall Maria, and I thought someone could edit this and it'd be really funny.
	Put over Reiner's face someone like Taika Patel, or anybody who beat Labour, and then instead of Wall Maria, it's edited so it is Labour's red, inconquerable wall, and it's just someone who beat Labour just bashing it down in one stride.
	Someone edit that, please, it'd be hilarious.
	Don't.
	I've never watched Attack on Titan because I just don't like it.
	Yeah, I don't really know many of the things he was talking about there, I'm afraid.
	Sorry.
	I mean, if there's any editors or people who do know, there you go.
	There's a little bit of a meme for you.
	Let's go for the next one.
	Hey guys, so this will be my last video comment for a while because of my cross-country move.
	And for Americans, I mean north to south, not east to west.
	I wanted to thank you guys on the show for...
	The opportunity that you're giving us to be a part of this great thing that you're doing.
	If you look at other shows whose audiences overlap with yours, a lot of them take like two or three comments on a show, but you guys are dedicated to your audience in a different way and it really feels like we're building a community.
	I'll miss submitting video comments and you'll see me again in a few months.
	Cheers!
	Hey guys, so Carl is right.
	It turns out high blood sugar is a late stage marker for insulin resistance.
	Sugar and bread are creating free radicals in our brains that impair function up to three decades before Alzheimer's symptoms present.
	Even thin people Who have normal blood sugar may begin to have earlier stage markers of this impairment.
	Eating bread and sugar floods your system with insulin, increases insulin resistance.
	This is all sourced from the book Genius Foods, which is about what foods impact and harm your brain function, which I highly recommend.
	All of this is to say, Keto Sharia forever, and Chirrutless Toast Dude should probably get in line.
	I can't get away.
	Even when we kick it out of the office, I still can't get away from it, can I? She was on last week.
	Yeah, that's very nice of her to say things like that.
	I think I've never really had a weight problem.
	You can see, if anything, I'm quite gaunt.
	But I did, a few years back, put on a bit of weight and decided I would just get back to being svelte again.
	And I cut out bread to see if it really made a difference.
	It was unbelievable how much difference it made, though.
	It really is true.
	If you eat bread two or three times a day, every single day, and then you just stop, For some reason, OBS refuses to recognize the fact that my camera and my microphone are, in fact, working at the same time.
	So it's either one or the other.
	I've obviously chosen to go with microphone instead of camera.
	What are you guys' views on self-defense?
	Mine are...
	Well, somewhere around there.
	I'd be in agreement.
	I just wanted to say for the previous commenter as well, that was really nice of you.
	I really like wholesome video messages and wholesome stuff because there is something to be said for just some places where the entire community is kind of toxic, and toxicity is a real thing.
	I'm not saying you should become a censorious overlord SJW, but I do love wholesome stuff like that, so thank you for that.
	Also, I'd love to know where you're moving and where you're moving from and sort of why, but you don't have to say on stream, obviously, because I'm just interested in why people move around the United States.
	A lot of the comments I've got, particularly on the history ones I'm doing with Carl, are really almost entirely nice and positive.
	Yeah, there's very, very little toxicity, it seems, in the fan base of Lois Seeds.
	That's amazing, really, I think.
	God, if I have to live under Keith or Sharia for a minute longer, I'm going to do exactly what that guy was about to do.
	I did say, previously, I think I was on a stream with Dankula.
	I can't remember what on earth it was about.
	But he was there, and there was some American who joined us.
	It was mostly British people.
	And the American had a handgun, and we were talking about self-defense, and then we'd moved on to a different topic.
	And he was like, all right, guys, I've got to go, because people are jumping off.
	And he just goes, all right, see you later.
	He's like, whoa, don't shoot yourself!
	He was like, what?
	No, no, I was showing I had self-defense rights.
	He was like...
	No, no, no, we moved on from that.
	Yeah, I think, I agree with the dude, I mean...
	So whenever I hear that, they're him going, oh god, please no.
	I do like the racking of a shotgun.
	It's a good sound, isn't it?
	I think, yeah, if people have any right, it's to protect your own life, right?
	I mean, if you can call anything a human right...
	It's to not be killed should be accounted among them.
	I mean, what rights are you born with?
	I mean, not things you can take from someone else by force, but you intrinsically have that you were born with.
	If you lived in America, let's not worry particularly about which state, would you buy a gun?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would.
	I would.
	Without question.
	You know, I'd buy ten of them, but that's me.
	But I mean, it's not I own a gun in the United States.
	You're nuts.
	I want two Glock 19s of extended clips or...
	Magazines?
	Magazines, sorry.
	I mean, it's sort of like tax evasion avoidance.
	I don't know which one.
	But it's sort of like, you know, in Greece, no one was doing taxes.
	So if you were the guy paying taxes, you were a sucker.
	And everyone else was smart for not paying them.
	And it's sort of like that with the United States and guns.
	If you don't own a gun, you're a sucker.
	Like, everyone else has got guns and you don't.
	A little bit.
	A little bit.
	Anyway, but yeah, both of you guys are great.
	But we agree with the right to self-defense.
	It's a shame we don't have it in the UK. Let's go for the next one.
	Just a quick one, fellas.
	I've been hearing some comments which are to do with kids not belonging to their parents, that they should belong to themselves because there's the possibility that their parents might be bad people.
	That's a very left-wing argument because...
	frankly you don't use the exceptions to adjust the rule there are exceptions for the fact that they are exceptions you don't use them to drive your policy making or your decision making the reason why transgender people should not be having the overwhelming level of superiority they have within the public discourse at the moment is because they represent less than three percent of the population
	they should not be dictating to the other 97 percent the way things are and When you've got a few bad parents who are going to do the wrong thing, they are not the reason why you punish everyone else.
	Okay?
	Cheers.
	Yeah, well said, sir.
	Well said.
	I can see the argument of being like, well, these parents have done bad things, but who cares?
	Because your response is, well, therefore the kids own themselves.
	Oh, well, let's see where that leads.
	Like, all the kids own themselves, in which case they can have, you know, the right to do whatever they want themselves, I guess.
	They can chew glass and all the rest of it.
	Like, there are a million ways you can take those.
	Just like, well, if the kids have all the rights because they own themselves, well, in which case, why can you take anything away from them?
	You can't, well, in which case they're able to do whatever they want.
	And you've seen kids when you let them do whatever they want.
	It's a mess.
	There's loads of tropes in the world that kids are really clever, whether it's like Malcolm in the Middle or Lisa Simpson or whatever it is.
	Some kids can be extremely clever or insightful.
	It's just not true.
	Kids are dummies.
	So, no, no.
	They need to be told what to do.
	I just love this idea of anti-kid action.
	No, get them out of politics.
	But I actually agree with that sentiment.
	I mean, look at Greta Thunberg and all the rest of it.
	It's not necessarily that this person couldn't go on and learn a whole bunch of stuff and therefore be an expert in the field of arguing about so on and so forth.
	But you're a child.
	No one believes for a minute that it's not your parents who have put you up to this, that you're not something that's not been able to thought this through but instead has been indoctrinated.
	Yeah, they're simply parroting lines they've been told by an adult.
	I mean, you see people, you see adults doing that.
	They obviously haven't thought about the thing for themselves.
	They're just parroting a line they read in The Guardian or whatever it is.
	And so adults are guilty of that.
	Many adults go through lives without really thinking really about what they're doing or saying.
	But it's true of children.
	I don't want the legal age for voting to go down to 16.
	No, thank you.
	All that sort of thing.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That's a regression.
	That's backwards.
	You're rolling civilisation backwards if you...
	Yeah, raise it to 21, yeah.
	Raise it to have some sort of property qualification.
	Sorry, John?
	Right, yeah.
	Yeah, 35, married with kids and own property.
	And only then maybe.
	No, I'm joking.
	It's also curious how you see, like, I have no opinion on the climate change stuff and whatnot.
	It's just not my field.
	You try not to talk about topics you don't know anything about.
	But I've read Robert Conquest's book on A Ravaged Century, and there's a bit at the end where he's just sort of ranting, and it's great.
	And he mentions about, like, why is it that all the, you know, like, people who are not just, I'd like a better environment, but we need to cure the sun god levels of commitment to environmentalism, have to go to your schools?
	Why do they have to teach children these things?
	Why can't they convince adults?
	It's like, right, because they're evil.
	They're not there to convince anyone.
	They're there to just bash them over the head.
	Don't go to the schools.
	Stop using kids in politics.
	It's not right.
	And also parents own their kids.
	Conquest is excellent on a number of topics.
	John's standards for voting.
	One vote for property ownership, another for being married, and a third for having a child.
	It is frustrating, isn't it, when you see people in your country, wherever you are in the world, in your society, and they might not be actually institutionalised for insanity, but they've obviously got a very, very small outlook or a weird, crazy, weird world view that's completely at odds with your society and culture.
	Their vote's worth exactly the same as yours.
	It is frustrating, isn't it, don't you think?
	It's the way the cookie crumbles.
	Anyway, let's go to the comments in the comments section.
	I'm going to have to come up with a nickname for you because I just can't say your name, so I'm just going to say Spaniard, if that's alright.
	The guy I misplaced as Mexican last time.
	I've been saying it for a while.
	Each day, we don't control immigration.
	We are inching ever closer to the ending with gunboats in the Mediterranean and state-endorsed violence in the streets.
	Innocent people are going to get caught in the crossfire.
	And now I'm starting to wonder if maybe the price is worth paying.
	Didn't expect the goddamn frogs to be the ones to snap first, to be honest.
	Well, that's the thing.
	They're not proposing anything illiberal.
	They're not proposing we go out into the Mediterranean and just start sinking ships or anything like this.
	They're just proposing enforce the laws we already have.
	If you're here illegally, get deported.
	If you're here and you're complaining about the fact that France is not Islamabad, you get deported.
	If you're here and you're engaging in practices that are anti-French, such as demanding that women can't be out in the street or demanding that certain things can't be said because it offends you, no, you're just wrong.
	There is no discussion.
	You're either going to jail or you're getting deported.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	I don't see anything wrong with the conservative French position on this, and now the Macronian French position, as he's taken it up, of enforce the law.
	What's the argument?
	No, we shouldn't enforce the law for tolerance.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Not listening to that nonsense.
	Matthew Hammond.
	If France devolves into civil war, will it change Britain's response and how they handled the grooming gangs?
	No one's going to jail for that.
	What is it?
	A handful of rapists have gone to jail?
	None of the authorities have gone to jail.
	None of them ever will.
	Black pill, but that's just how it's going to be.
	As for if France changes, I mean, it is interesting.
	As France inches somewhere, we seem to slowly be behind them, but we do sort of inch with them.
	I mean, the debate on the burqa, for example, has become sort of mainstream in the UK, whereas it was a radical thing in France.
	Now France is discussing about civil war.
	You can see politicians being like, eh, should we have the burka around?
	See, it seems kind of antithetical to civilisation.
	And, I mean, how are they wrong?
	Shooting of history.
	Le Mal, the current French government has finally reached the bare minimum of how to respond to all these issues.
	Now they either get based or go full Le Pen, or you go Le Pen after another year of this.
	If your military is saying that you got, I assume, good problems, now that you and your civilians, it's also time to back down.
	I mean, yeah, if the military is saying, you guys need to do this, or we're going to do it ourselves...
	It's not small.
	I mean, I don't know if this is normal in French culture or something.
	I know Turkey has a bit of a weird culture with their military where it's their duty to step in every so often.
	But this doesn't seem normal.
	And if that's taking place, maybe you should take some note.
	And it seems Macron is, at least, changed his tune pretty fast, didn't he?
	I'm telling you, Josh is probably right.
	Probably his defence minister told him to.
	A second letter.
	I guess the average of frogs in hot water has been disproven.
	These froggies seem to have noticed the water has reached a boiling point.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Although it sort of ramped up kind of quick, didn't it?
	Like in the UK, it's still kind of, you know, slowly, but I mean, 2015.
	Bad year.
	Very bad year.
	So basically, soldiers are saying, we back our generals, says Christian Andersen.
	Yeah.
	The Spaniard.
	apply the law of the land to those who immigrate and demand people to immigrate lawfully is that so much to ask no it's the basic minimum to ask and immigrants should not get citizenship or the franchise until they have stayed 18 years in the country if i was a native here sorry if i if i as a native have to wait that many years why so should immigrants true it's It's also just one of the crazy things.
	In the UK, I've mentioned it before, but Wales and Scotland have legalised foreigners to vote in their elections.
	Like, you're a foreigner, you're in Wales, you can vote.
	It's nuts.
	I mean, absolutely nuts.
	I mean, let's say you go on holiday to Moscow.
	You should be able to vote in the Moscow elections.
	What, are you crazy?
	I mean, I know Moscow elections.
	But if you went to a country that's got, you know, elections, no.
	Like, if we could accept that, if you shouldn't be on holiday and be able to vote, why on earth being there for a year should it give you the right to vote because you're working?
	It's a good argument to reverse the devolution because the Scottish and Welsh parliaments are just...
	Can't be trusted.
	No, absolutely.
	In a very real sense, cannot be trusted to do the right thing for Britain at all.
	In fact, the opposite.
	Can't be trusted to do the right thing for anyone.
	But I mean, they're both run by radical leftists.
	I mean, in Wales, I mean, it's a thiefdom run by the Labour Party and in Scotland, the SNP, and it's...
	Stop voting for it, guys.
	Oh, it's just going to kick you out, I guess, and you can enjoy that while England just turns bluer and bluer.
	The civic nationalist.
	Let France fall?
	Why should we care about France at all?
	Eh, the English nationalist for me says maybe, but no, no, France should stand.
	And hopefully we shall do the same thing that we have always done and reject extremism of all kinds.
	Britain is and was the only place for modernisation.
	We must never allow any extremism to propagate and deny all extremists a room to grow.
	God save the Queen.
	Long live Britain.
	The sun is never set.
	Rule Britannia forevermore.
	Certainly agree with the second part, but I don't know.
	I feel like we shouldn't let France fall if we can help it.
	I mean, especially considering that they seem to be getting to the solutions of the problem, which is that Islamism isn't compatible with liberalism that our politicians are still struggling with.
	Me and Theresa May were the favourite quotes from the Koran.
	Keep it by my bedside and read it every night.
	I was like, Give me strength.
	That's really odd, isn't it?
	I might just convert to Christianity just to be like Traitorland.
	I don't believe it.
	I just want to bully Theresa May for being a dimmy.
	Jordan Chandler.
	A friend of mine was a paramedic responder to the Manchester Arena bombing.
	This is going to be fun.
	And he described to me the harrowing experience of having to step over children still alive and screaming in agony with no hope of survival.
	Yeah, this isn't fun.
	So that he could get to the victims who could be saved.
	Any politician that doesn't take active steps to eliminate the scourge of Islamic terrorism deserves no position in power at all.
	They deserve nothing.
	They should not be in polite society.
	They should not be in politics.
	Never mind in positions of power.
	It's unbelievable.
	I mean, I did see one section, and I don't know if it's true, but in the Wikipedia article that I read, they had a list there, because I read that, and then I went to the parliamentary inquiry to fact-check the extreme claims.
	And it said that some people claimed that the people on the top floor had been tortured.
	What had happened there was that the bullets had travelled and then dismembered parts of their bodies, and I'm like...
	Shut up.
	There's no bullets that dismember your genitals into your mouth, you utter liars.
	Andy D. Gents, thank you for covering what happened to Bataclan.
	Sadly, having worked in security, I've had to study Islamic terror in detail.
	The events of the Bataclan are representative of other Islamic terror attacks.
	The Beslan Massacre is such another event.
	I mean, yeah, how did Mohammed meet Sophia?
	The question you need to ask about that.
	Why am I to say this?
	Lads and ladies, if you ever in an Islamic terror attack, do not surrender.
	Sorry for the black pill.
	Yeah, I mean, this whole cover section is going to be black pills, isn't it?
	You know about Sophia?
	In the Quran?
	Yeah.
	Which one's that?
	Which one's that?
	There's everyone's favourite Lord of Aldermall in Britain.
	And he loves to play this game whenever he's talking to an Islamist, which is just that they'll say, oh, Islam is a religion of peace.
	Sure, it's been supported by extremists and whatnot.
	He just turns around and goes, how did he meet Sophia?
	Come on, how did he meet his wife Sophia?
	And the way he met his wife Sophia is him and his warlord friends decided to go down to a village of Jews, burnt the place to the ground, killed all of the men with pubes, took all the women, sold them into slavery, and then he killed the king and then took his wife as his wife, Sophia.
	That's how he met Sophia.
	Yeah.
	Is the source text distorted?
	Are the events of the Arabian uprising, are those distorted by the Islamists?
	No, I think the problem with Islamic fundamentalism is the fundamentals of Islam.
	If part of Islam is to extol or even recreate in some ways the life of Muhammad, who seems to have been Well, a warlord is not a bad description.
	So how people could call it a religion of peace, I don't know, it just doesn't work.
	What a terrible lie to tell people.
	I want to follow the position of Mohammed.
	You've lost your mind if you think that's going to bring good results.
	Anyway, Sean Kelly, that horrific account is what I expected from a war zone, not a first world country.
	Are we a first world country?
	Douglas Fraser, one does have to wonder what the EU response to a French civil war would be.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Oof.
	I mean, if the military just coup the government, I mean, it's simpler.
	It's not, you know, a proper fallout civil war, but they just take it over.
	I mean, I imagine it'll be like when the French Revolution happened, and you just had the kingdoms of Europe all looking at each other like, what the fuck are the French doing?
	But, I mean, they might be on the right this time, I guess.
	So French will fall, especially with the newly formed EU army and the consequences that follow after if the EU chooses to get involved or not.
	If France leaves the EU, I mean, that would solve that problem, but...
	Yeah, I mean, that's a question to ponder, isn't it?
	If they invade as well, does that violate NATO? You can't invade fellow NATO members, surely.
	I don't know.
	I mean, Shakespeare in Henry V calls them Brother France.
	And in many ways, we are brothers or cousins with the Germans and the French.
	I know not everyone likes that idea.
	I just see the chat like Germany will bum rush them.
	Yeah, probably.
	Just waiting for the opportunity.
	Yeah, it's in their blood.
	Anyway, fat surprise.
	Regarding the Islamists, I would argue that the left is absolutely part of it.
	Islamo-leftism.
	Macron is right.
	They were the only ones telling people that these savages, I mean, the people we spoke about, those are savages, I mean, torturing people after shooting hundreds, that's a savage if you ever saw one, are practicing the religion of peace and deserve sanctuary on our homelands while they dismember and decapitate the local populace.
	That's just what it is.
	This is not the fault of the savage, necessarily.
	They are just the ones there, and they don't know any better.
	No, it's still their fault, but it's the thing of, like, you know that that person is going to be like that.
	You know, this is why Trump put that ban on Islamist countries.
	It's like, look, these countries have a bunch of those kind of people in.
	I'm not bringing them in, because they're going to be a bunch of savages and commit terrorist attacks.
	In which case, fair enough.
	I mean, why would you?
	If you've got a country that has a disproportionately large amount of Islamist terrorists, why would you want to import the populace?
	Why would you not want to, you know, keep that away from you?
	Well, it's like that thing of if a fox gets in amongst the hens and kills them all, you blame the fox, of course, because he did it, but more of the blame goes on the person that didn't build the fence or broke the fence down so that the fox could get in.
	The fox is going to do what the fox is going to do.
	But the people that allowed it to get in there in the first place, that's the real...
	Yeah.
	It's that Hitchin's quote.
	The barbarians never take a city until someone has left the doors open.
	Interesting.
	Anyway, so let's move on to something right.
	So the space stuff.
	So Hammurabi VI. On the subject of space white pills, I learned recently of the Parker Solar Probe, which on its way to Sol swung by Venus and picked up this hauntingly beautiful sound in the upper ionosphere.
	Then a YouTube link.
	They're literally listening to other planets now.
	I see Discordia's put a link there.
	I wonder if, John, you can find that or not.
	I'll send it to you on Discord, just in case.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	But then we'll get back to the questions, because I know otherwise we're going to be waiting on that light.
	So, Emma K. I love Baudet's contributions, particularly the space stuff.
	Chris Samoni.
	Morning, gents.
	I'm sorry in advance, because I'm sure you can't read this out, but I hear the largest black hole, and I immediately think, wait, I thought that Cardi B had that title as her WAP. Probably shouldn't have read that out.
	Can you turn the sound on on this, John?
	I've not actually heard that song, WAP. I've got no intention of listening to it, but I'm aware that it's disgusting or something.
	I'll talk to you after, don't worry.
	Okay.
	This is the sound of Venus.
	Hm, that's interesting. that's interesting.
	Because Venus is actually quite enigmatic, really.
	We've had much, much, much less landers and probes land on Venus compared to Mars, for example.
	Someone's got to turn that into a mix, though.
	There's got to be a mix on YouTube in a few days.
	It's just like the Venus mix.
	Someone's got to put a donk on it.
	Sounds like WAP, people are saying.
	Anyway.
	From water is wet.
	Bo, light may be a spectrum, but the important thing is water wet.
	Banned.
	Banned for racism.
	Miles Mitchell, loving the science corner sections of the podcast.
	I remember being on exercise in Batos, Canada, where the training area is near enough the size of a whale, so there's no light pollution, so you can get those clear nights and get views like that.
	Sorry, and get views like that, and it's breathtaking to behold.
	Yeah, I imagine it is.
	I've never been to a place that's actually gone.
	I would love to see it.
	I saw Joe Rogan once talk about he was up in the mountains in Hawaii and he basically kind of described that he saw the Milky Way and just the many, many, many more time stars than you usually see.
	And I would love to see that with my own eyes.
	I've just never been to sort of a high enough altitude on a clear enough night and been lucky enough to see it.
	But I would, yeah, that's sort of on the bucket list, like seeing the Northern Lights or something.
	Absolutely.
	Where was I? Not quite on the insane considered matter of the black hole, but the Action Lab has a fascinating YouTube video on what's a marble-sized chunk of a neutronium?
	The matter of a neutron star in a pulsar existed on the surface of the Earth.
	Spoiler, it wouldn't be on the surface for very long.
	Or do you just sink to the centre of the earth immediately and then suck everything into it?
	It's unbelievably dense, aren't it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	The neutron star is...
	Other than being a singularity, I believe that's the densest thing there is.
	James Hayes.
	Has Bo played Elite Dangerous?
	Beautiful game for those who love the beauty of space.
	No, but I played Elite on the NES quite a lot.
	The original Nintendo.
	I was dating myself.
	But when I was a small child, yeah, Elite was great.
	But I've not played that version of it, I'm afraid.
	Mark Horne.
	Find someone who looks at you the way Bo looks at black holes.
	Anyway, I'm going to skip over a few because we've got to get the time.
	I'm bad with names, alright?
	Heathcliff Flowen.
	It's hilarious to see the university grifters trying to argue against the new legislation, just like how they try to argue against voter ID. If you weren't planning to cheat and abuse the system, what are you complaining about?
	Quiet.
	They're saying, please don't censor people.
	No, we can't do that!
	It's like, what were you planning on doing?
	Exactly what you've been doing, which is censoring everyone who disagrees with you.
	I mean, Carl's example is probably the best one.
	Him and Yaren Brook, people who don't know, went to King's College.
	They just held an event.
	It was, you know...
	A chat.
	I mean, there's nothing fancical about it.
	They weren't starting a Third Reich or something.
	And they were just talking about, like, he's an objectivist and Carl isn't, so they were just arguing about that.
	And then a bunch of students who were anti-far had infiltrated the place, and a bunch then harmed a security guard and stormed in, and just started screaming and making noise and whatnot.
	You can see it on YouTube if you're just typing Carl Benjamin Yarenbrooke, King's College, London.
	And it's like, okay, well, what's that then?
	I mean, there's no argument about like, oh, they were disinvited, not deplatformed or something like that, you know, some technical...
	They were assaulted.
	Didn't someone throw a punch at Carl or something?
	I saw it, but I can't remember it well.
	I mean, I'm sure Carl would say they were a bunch of soy boys, so it wasn't that bad.
	Well, yeah, he got their flag, didn't he?
	Was that when he got their flag?
	Yes.
	That same incident?
	So that's brilliant.
	That's like getting the enemy's colours.
	I mean, that's great.
	But it's an example of like, look, if there isn't a problem, why is that happening?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, to a liberal and a...
	What is it?
	Yeah.
	Is it an objectivist?
	I'm trying to remember what followers of Ayn Rand are called.
	Chat will tell me.
	Misdiated?
	Pussies.
	No, not that.
	Thanks, Jory.
	sam jackson the idea that this government cares about free speech is ridiculous the new legislation is just a diversion from the real threat to free speech which come from the police and the courts it has been sorry it has now been nearly three weeks since our petition to revoke section 127 reached out to 10 000 signatures and they still have not responded to it the more time goes on i become increasingly convinced the conservatives are just a bunch of woke and pc as the labor party maybe they are just controlled opposition um first point with the petition this is pretty typical
	actually for the positions we've done in the past I mean, the grooming gang's one, what did we have to wait?
	Was it a year?
	Was it ridiculous?
	Until we got proper response?
	It took forever.
	And then the debate took forever as well.
	That's not new.
	But the overall point is fair, that these guys do that specific economics and politics degree at Oxford or Cambridge.
	They will go to Balliol or something, and at some point they decide whether they're going to put a blue or a red tie on.
	you know, the same people.
	University parties, as Hugo likes to call them, which I'm a fan of that term.
	But the other thing there is just, well, they are doing the right thing there.
	What would the Labour Party do in the same position?
	They would not only not pass that piece of legislation, they would pass a piece of legislation banning hate figures from universities entirety.
	They would just allow them never to be invited.
	So it's like, okay, they've got the point, they understand the fundamentals by the looks of it, that it should be, the proper way the British state should be is one that protects free speech and not attacks it.
	It's just a shame that they have not done the extra mileage, as you say, which is go after the police and the courts.
	I mean, the laws on the books that the police openly abuse, as we showed with the Christian pastors who were arrested, that needs to go.
	That can't be there anymore.
	That entire culture.
	I mean, I've interviewed some people who used to be ex-met that we met out and about.
	And then the stories they tell us, it's just like the entire structure.
	You have to have a Kenny Badenock, which storms in there and just starts pulling roots out.
	Just the entire sections of training need to be destroyed and rewritten, because it's that bad.
	Well, it's like the rape gang things, when they will eventually have some sort of parliamentary inquest or something, and they get the individual people, the people that were the head of Manchester Police or whatever, or the social services, and they just say, oh, mistakes were made.
	I'm pretty sure he got a promotion, actually.
	Right.
	The guy in charge of Manchester Police.
	I just had lunch, don't...
	Yeah, I'm not unsympathetic to that view, that there are huge problems with the Conservatives, that they don't seem to be enacting what they need to, but when they do a right thing, they deserve round of applause.
	But people will know who are to blame for this stuff, and no one's prosecuted.
	It's mind-blowing.
	It's the question of blame.
	It's like, how much is this guy to actually know or not?
	But there's no way no one should face prosecution.
	We know who ran the social services.
	We know who didn't say when they were supposed to.
	We know who tried to blow whistles.
	We know who these people are.
	They're all still alive.
	It's not that long ago.
	In fact, it's still ongoing, isn't it?
	Andy Burnham right now, the mayor of Manchester.
	So it's still happening, right?
	On his watch right now?
	Yeah.
	Just enforce the laws.
	We already have, please.
	When I say heads must roll, I should be clear.
	That's a term for the civil service.
	Metaphorically.
	I'm not saying that they should actually be killed.
	I'm saying they should be fired.
	Remember Steve Bannon?
	Remember Steve Bannon?
	He said that civil servants, their heads should be on pikes, is his phrasing.
	And it was obviously just like, he should show that they've been fired.
	And YouTube whacked him for it.
	It's pathetic.
	I'm joking.
	No, I'm not joking.
	I'm being metaphorical, not literal.
	Anyway.
	God.
	People in their names.
	Mullock.
	I'm just going to say Mullock.
	We're finally getting a freedom of speech bill.
	Granted, it's only in universities, but that's a start.
	Please correct me if I'm wrong.
	Should have a freedom of speech from the beginning, as were the country that created the bloody language, but better late than never.
	I've seen the Adam Smith Institute and the Free Speech Union are also pushing for exactly that.
	A bill that would push through a freedom of speech bill in which you say, no, Britons have these rights, so on and so forth, and absolutely.
	Just end on hiss.
	Also, does this mean that we can finally say British Voldemort's name without getting cancelled?
	No.
	Wonder if he'll get more public appearances now that this new bill is out.
	No, the problem there is really Silicon Valley.
	It's not the British state.
	Although, I would love to see.
	I mean, a bunch of universities.
	Invite the man.
	Have him come round and explain himself like he did at Oxford University and hear what he has to say.
	I mean, 90% of the room can disagree with him and, you know, call him out and whatnot.
	But that's not the point.
	The point is to hear what the man has to say, because why is he not on Facebook?
	He's not on Facebook because Facebook lied.
	They said to the BBC he made a post calling for the beheading of Muslims, and they couldn't back it up with evidence.
	Liars.
	And if I'm wrong, produce the post.
	Produce the post that you said existed.
	It's not there.
	Anyway, we're out of time, so we're going to head off.
	We will be back tomorrow at 1 o'clock.
	Thank you and goodbye.

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