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April 13, 2021 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #109

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotuses for the 13th of April 2021.
	I'm joined by Carl, and today we're going to be talking about, I don't know what to call it, the shooting in Minneapolis?
	I don't know if there's a name for it yet.
	The accidental shooting?
	Yeah, the F up by the looks of it.
	The George Floyd trial update, so we're about halfway, so we're going to go to a halfway point, and then, I don't know, it's like football almost at this point.
	And then the ADL's views on replacement migration, which turns out is something they have a rather unique viewpoint on.
	No, it's not unique.
	It's not even unique.
	It's actually very old school and remarkably based, according to some segments of the very racist parts of the internet.
	The ADL, in agreement with the people they criticize.
	Just saying we disavow the ADL and these people that they agree with.
	Yeah, but we'll get into that in a minute.
	I just want to plug first a new article we have from James Dillingpole, who's one of our writers.
	He's written an article about vaccine passports and why you should say no to vaccine passports.
	I don't know what the update is with that from the government.
	Well, I don't think they know, that's the thing.
	But it's obviously something that's in the works, and they're thinking, oh, can we, can't we?
	And so as much pushback as possible is good.
	We've also got loads of other great premium content, obviously.
	We've got our book club, various...
	Premium podcasts.
	Loads of interesting articles.
	Interview with Helen Dale and Gadsad.
	Just loads of stuff.
	In fact, we've been doing the website for ages now.
	So we've got a huge catalogue, library of great premium stuff.
	I'm really proud of it.
	And the next book club we're going to do is 1984.
	Yeah.
	I'm nearly finished reading it.
	We almost done.
	Okay, then we'll set up a date soon.
	But let's get into it because I don't want to fall behind on time.
	So first thing here.
	Tell me about what happened in Minneapolis.
	Right, well, what hasn't happened in Minneapolis?
	Oh, sorry, Minnesota.
	No, it's still in Minneapolis, though.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, Minnesota is the state, Minneapolis is the city.
	I didn't know it was in the same city.
	Yeah, it's in the city where the George Floyd trial has taken place.
	Right.
	Right, so this bad news, right?
	This was the worst kind of thing to have happened, right?
	And so obviously the event began trending on Twitter because it was big news.
	And so we won't worry about Twitter's coverage.
	We'll go through it on our own.
	But basically, this is how it goes.
	The grift begins with Sean King.
	Show me the unarmed white men who are shot and killed by police after traffic stop over an air freshener hanging from the mirror.
	Show it to me.
	We have 350 million people in this country, but you can't tell me a single case of this happening to a white man ever.
	I mean, that's probably true.
	I'm not familiar with every shooting that happens in America.
	But this is the footage of the shooting.
	if we just watch this.
	So for anyone who's listening he's pulled over in a white car by a black We're trying to handcuff him.
	We can't really see the guy because his face is being blown.
	The black police officer is trying to put handcuffs on him.
	The woman, whose body camera footage we're watching, goes up to him, tries to do something, and he breaks the hold, tries to jump back in the car, and then sneak the fans off.
	He's out.
	Done!
	Taser, taser, taser!
	Holy shit!
	I shot him!
	Taser, taser, taser!
	Yes!
	But she's holding a gun.
	Yeah, she's holding a gun, yells taser, taser, taser, shoots him.
	He drives off after being shot.
	She drops the gun and yells, OS, I shot him.
	So...
	A racist cop trying to kill another black man.
	Another white supremacist who's just targeting execution.
	Obviously not.
	I like the way that she drops the gun as if the gun was responsible for what she did.
	She might just be in panic.
	Of course she was in panic.
	Obviously.
	She clearly didn't mean to do that.
	And if she did, that was a really good cover-up.
	But her black colleague came over and he was obviously concerned about her because she looked like she was freaking out apparently, obviously from his reaction.
	And so this doesn't really appear to be one of those cases where you can say, oh, look, it's a racist white supremacist police officer putting his knee on the neck of an innocent black man who didn't do nothing.
	It's a case of a guy who they were trying to arrest, who tried to escape, and she tried to taser him and was incompetent.
	I mean, the only thing I think is unique is not because this is one of those cases in which it's not that case.
	Loads of them are not that case, obviously.
	But I think it's unique in that the body cam footage is so crystal clear that there is no argument here.
	It's just Lady Cop wanted to use a taser, didn't end up using a gun.
	Mistakes are made.
	I mean, don't get me wrong, if there's footage from another angle that shows her laughing as she's doing it, like, taser, taser, haha, winking and stuff, then fine, I'll be like, yeah, okay, fine, she did it on purpose or whatever.
	But that isn't going to exist.
	It's not going to exist, you're right.
	But the point is, this was clearly an accident, and the man was Dante Wright, who then drove off for a couple of blocks, crashed and died of his injuries, died of his wounds.
	So this is a picture of the victim.
	We can go to the next one.
	He's black.
	Is he?
	That's what they're telling us.
	God, Americans have a really broad definition of what a black man is.
	Yeah, you really have to be very American to view this guy as black.
	And we say this is a country that has lots of black people in it who came from Africa.
	Who don't look like that.
	I mean, this is sort of close to South Spain, I would say.
	Yeah, he looks Latino.
	He looks mulatto, I guess they'd call it.
	Which is a mixture of the Spanish immigrants and the Native Americans.
	So, I mean, he...
	Like...
	A black man.
	Yeah, behold a black man, right?
	But the thing is, it doesn't matter, apart from the fact that attached to this identity is a huge amount of political baggage that is going to be laden on this case.
	So, I mean, if you pulled this guy over, would you think black guy instantly?
	I wouldn't.
	I wouldn't- I mean, maybe Americans would because it's America, and that's strange.
	He's not black!
	I don't know, but I mean, if people are able to report this, I do think maybe the lady cop might have been able to say that she thinks he's black in an American framework.
	But again, we also have the complications of saying this is some kind of racist stop or something, with the chief cop being a black man.
	So, in fact, we can go on to that.
	So the reason he was stopped is because he was driving a car that had license plates that were outdated.
	And they had noticed that he had a car air freshener hanging from the back mirror or something.
	And in Minnesota, apparently, they have a state rule that says you can't have that on there.
	And so one of the reasons for them trying to investigate him was to...
	They noticed that and they wanted that taken off as well as the outdated plates.
	And then they ran his...
	Like, licensed through the records and found that he in fact had a warrant out on him anyway.
	We can go to the next one, John.
	As you can see, people have found this on the internet and he was wanted for possession of a pistol without a permit.
	and that is indeed a video of him from social media waving the pistol at the camera of his phone as he was smoking a blunt.
	Every goddamn time.
	Yeah.
	Why could they never get another Rosa Parks or something, you know?
	Don't know.
	Like, a nice, clean person, respectable, actually is a victim of injustice or something.
	It's just...
	Don't know.
	Well, I should say, it's not necessarily that he's not a victim of injustice yet.
	I mean, you could say this guy's a victim of injustice in the form of an accident.
	That's totally true.
	I should retract that.
	But it's just every goddamn time.
	Why could it not be in trouble with it?
	Why do you think he was fleeing from the cops?
	Yeah.
	This is why.
	This is why anyone ever fights with the cops and has a tussle with them, because if you've done nothing particularly wrong, what possible reason would you have?
	But anyway, so, pillar of the community was accidentally shot by this officer, and the officer herself was placed on administrative leave, which is normal to do.
	I assume manslaughter charges will follow?
	We don't know yet.
	It's far too soon.
	This only happened yesterday.
	But, yeah, she's on administrative leave, and the police department have said, well, look, it looks to us like this was an accident.
	Like, she didn't mean to shoot him.
	She was just in the heat of the moment, and she made a mistake.
	She herself was a long-serving veteran officer.
	So if we can scroll down, I've got her surname, but I can't remember her first name offhand.
	Kim Potter, that's right.
	She's been at the police department for nearly 25 years and is the president of the Brooklyn Center Police Officers Association.
	And she's represented other officers in deadly shootings.
	So she can't even claim that she's a noob.
	That, oh, it was my first day on the force and I made a mistake.
	It's like, no, you've done this for 25 years.
	Anyway, so going back to the grift, let's go back to Sean King.
	Phil Grifter, if you've been around for a while, you'll know that the officer who shot and killed Oscar Grant 11 years ago also claimed that he thought his gun was a taser.
	It was proven back then that they are wildly different devices.
	It speaks to how little they care about these black men.
	What kind of stupid argument is that?
	11 years ago, someone did something similar?
	But it's not impossible to think that someone could make that mistake.
	I mean, they're both things you hold in your hand and you fire like this.
	No, and especially if you're...
	In the heat of the moment, blah, blah, blah.
	But they are wildly different devices, sure.
	But that doesn't explain why someone would, you know, mistake one for the other.
	It's a mistake.
	Like, if you would sit her down calmly and say, can you tell the difference between this taser and this gun?
	She'd be like, no, they're the same thing.
	And of course not.
	She's going to be like, yes, of course I can.
	But also that this has anything to do with race.
	Or Black Lives Matter.
	Or black men.
	I tried to tase him.
	Nah, you were trying to kill him because he's black.
	Yeah.
	It's obviously false, but Sean King has been trying his best to ramp up the pressure.
	Revolution now, comrade.
	But Biden isn't taking it.
	This was his tepid reaction.
	This went down like an absolute lead balloon with online Twitter activists, as you can imagine.
	Did he say something sensible?
	He did.
	He said, was it an accident or was it intentional?
	That remains to be determined.
	In the meantime, I want to make it clear again.
	There's absolutely no justification, none, for looting.
	Peaceful protest, understandable.
	Sensible Biden.
	Yeah, unbelievably middle-of-the-road tepid who can't agree with this.
	Well, the answer is, of course, Black Lives Matter activists can't agree with this.
	Your own voters.
	The people he courted for his campaign and so tacitly endorsed.
	Of course, stores have already been looted.
	This is from Sophia Narwitz, who is on the ground in Minnesota, and she has just shown it.
	I mean, if you scroll down a little bit, the strip mall was ransacked last night.
	Most stores look picked clean, especially the Boost Mobile store.
	Here they're boarding up the shops.
	That's right.
	It's only justice when I get to steal some shoes or some food or something.
	Mobile phones, yeah.
	In fact, Fox Business covered this.
	Businesses near the Walmart such as Foot Locker, T-Mobile, a men's clothing store called 2 New York, and of course, Little Caesars and GameStop.
	This caused a...
	That'd be GameStop.
	No, this caused a 10% drop in my GameStonks.
	Oh.
	So I'm actually not very happy with this at all, to be honest with you.
	Before I wasn't bothered.
	I'm joking, obviously.
	But no, this...
	Yeah, I mean, obviously, what racial justice looks like in America is a PS4. Okay?
	Yeah.
	And a new mobile phone.
	And there were a bunch of liquor stores that were looted as well, but they didn't take the cheap wine, apparently.
	They took the expensive bottles of gin.
	So, there we go.
	That's racial justice.
	Looting for justice.
	I mean, this isn't new.
	I mean, literally every Black Lives Matter case follows exactly the same pattern, the exact same looting, the exact same things.
	But what I think is unique about this is it's so obviously a mistake.
	There is no pretense of, oh, they were trying to kill the guy or anything like that.
	It is the open, most transparent case of just, you are racial grifters.
	Yes, yes, that's exactly what this is.
	If ever we needed an example to show us that this isn't about some ethereal notion of racial equality and justice, it's this one.
	Because this was an accident, they didn't know anything about the case, they just saw the picture of the guy and they're like, he's black enough...
	Riot, loot, burn.
	And that's where we are.
	So anyway, let's go through some more of Sophia's coverage.
	The city is, of course, like a war zone now.
	This is the government centre at the heart of downtown Minneapolis, where Derek Chauvin is being tried, and it's, of course, like an actual military occupation.
	I don't know how to describe it.
	Razor wire fences, barricades, armed guards.
	The National Guard was called in, incidentally.
	I mean, armored Humvees.
	Now that Biden's in charge, the National Guard are completely okay.
	When Trump was doing it, of course...
	These are not Biden's stormtroopers.
	No, no, they were Trump's stormtroopers.
	And I assume they're still loyalty.
	Anyway, so we keep going up.
	So this is what it looks like when you have Black Lives Matter operating in your town and city.
	For anyone who can't see it, it's just everything boarded up with BLM, no justice, no peace, scrawled across it.
	And I mean, I would describe it as basically the end of American freedom, the destruction of American civilization.
	Like, this is what they're doing to your country.
	These are major cities in what was supposed to be the premier country in all of the world, and it's rotting from the inside because of this.
	Moving on, a curfew was announced, of course, for 7pm that night.
	Totally normal thing.
	Totally normal.
	This is not the first time, of course, that Minneapolis has had a curfew in the past year.
	This is just something that happens.
	And so the mayor, Jacob Frey, announced the curfew.
	And so let's just have a quick summary.
	What happened?
	A quote-unquote black man tried to escape being arrested.
	A woman, a policewoman, diversely shot him by accident, and now you have to stay indoors after 7pm.
	It's all going great.
	Anyway, let's go back to more things that have happened.
	Here's looting while black, according to some person.
	Peaceful protesters from the citizenreporter.news.
	Just showing people going to Dollar Tree, which is just a pound shop style store.
	Just taking stuff.
	If you're going to loot somewhere, I don't know why you'd loot a dollar store.
	Here's more looters looting the phone store.
	Well, there we go.
	Justice for Dante Wright.
	Yeah, it's what he would have wanted.
	Yeah, it's what he would have wanted.
	A dollar store, literally.
	I mean, you can buy stuff from there.
	Go to the expensive stores, I guess.
	That's what I would have thought.
	Crying out loud, but okay, fine.
	But anyway, Sophia herself was hit by a rubber bullet, and so that ended her coverage, because there were massive, well, not massive, but large protests.
	The police were using force to suppress them.
	Yeah, they seemed to try and stop the looting and whatnot as well.
	Well, there are videos of police just sat around in their cars watching them going and looting stores.
	So, I mean, sometimes, I guess, maybe, but a lot of the time apparently not.
	So whoever's in charge of, what is it, like, policy or whatever in response to these kind of things has told them don't interfere because it will make it worse.
	It looks that way, yeah.
	I mean, I don't know, obviously, but that...
	But it's what happened in, you know, Berkeley, for example.
	Yeah, and it's really insufferable because, look, you're the police, and they're literally looting a shop right in front of you.
	You have an obligation to go and stop them doing that.
	And so, and I don't doubt for a second that the police in the cars are like, hmm, I should probably go and stop them looting.
	And they've probably got the message through on their fucking phones going, yeah, don't do anything.
	You'll just make things worse.
	This is all political now.
	Shut up and sit down.
	It's like, okay, great.
	But there was, you know, tear gas was used to disperse the mobs and stuff like this.
	But that's not really the interesting thing.
	I think the interesting thing is how the race grift is well and truly on.
	Now, this is NBC News.
	This isn't Sean King on Twitter, right?
	This is NBC News.
	Listen to what they're saying about this.
	Dante Wright was stopped for expired plates, but driving while black may have been his, quote, crime.
	That's their headline.
	That's the headline of this.
	Driving while black may have been his crime.
	Yes, this was a targeted, premeditated white supremacist shooting with the black cop.
	It's unreal.
	It's just unreal.
	I mean, this is the most irresponsible kind of coverage.
	But, I mean, at least thank you for signaling so strongly that this is a massive race-baiting article.
	I mean, it's good to know.
	Put it up on the front.
	But what you'll notice is they capitalized black.
	And I really despise this capitalization of black, because when they're capitalizing black, what they're saying is it's a political proper noun, as in you capitalize French or German or English, when that's black, as if black is a nationality.
	Black is its own thing.
	But anyway, the chain of events that ended with yet another fatal police shooting of a black Capital B man in Minnesota began in what has become a typical tragedy, a traffic stop for a minor infraction.
	He was pulled over for having an expired registration on the vehicle, said the police chief Tim Gannon.
	When the officer went over, an item hanging from the rear view mirror was spotted.
	It was after that that the officers discovered a gross misdemeanor warrant for his arrest, and that's why they tried to arrest him.
	So, absolutely nothing racial.
	There's just nothing racial to point to there, right?
	They pulled him over because of his plates, they discovered he had other things on his records, they tried to arrest him, and he tried to escape.
	She made a mistake.
	Nothing racial about any of this whatsoever, right?
	Minutes later, a gunshot rang out, and Wright joined the ranks of other black motorists who have died, have been pulled over by the police.
	That includes Philando Castile, blah, blah, blah, right?
	So, okay, so this is politically black for the sake of convenience now, right?
	Wright's family has hired civil rights lawyer Benjamin Crump, the lead attorney for Floyd's family, to represent them as well.
	Of course they have.
	The race vultures are descending.
	They're flocking down to the corpse.
	They're like, ah, a B black, a capital B black person.
	So if you say so.
	Crump said, Duante...
	I don't know how to pronounce it.
	Dante or Duante Wright is yet another capital B black man killed at the hands of those who have sworn to protect and serve us all, not just the whitest among us.
	As Minneapolis and the rest of the country continue to deal with the tragic killing of George Floyd, we must also mourn the loss of this young man and father.
	This level of lethal force is entirely preventable and inhumane.
	It wasn't even on purpose.
	It wasn't on purpose, but it's...
	I will say that he has been wrongfully killed, obviously.
	It wasn't meant to be.
	And his family should get a payout or recompense compensation or the rest of it.
	But, that said, the only person who could have stopped this, by the looks of it, would have been him.
	Yeah.
	Him resisting arrest, jumping in the car.
	Yeah, trying to escape.
	You're being arrested.
	You're not entitled to just run away, then.
	You're not going to win it.
	No.
	You're not going to win it, and that's why we have a legal process.
	Mm-hmm.
	But just the idea that this is about if he was white he would be fine.
	What are you talking about?
	If he was white and jumped in the car he'd be shot.
	Because she would have made the same mistake.
	Yeah, why would we think the mistake would have been different?
	Because he's black.
	I'm sorry, I really do reject this, because just look at David Lammy, or Kimmy Badendock, or the race report woman who was interviewed on trigonometry the other day.
	These people are actually black.
	They're actually from Africa.
	This guy looks like he's not even from Mexico.
	You know what I mean?
	Come on.
	I do get what you mean.
	I'm just tired of it.
	Anyway, the ACLU of Minnesota said it had, quote, deep concerns that police here have appeared to use dangling air fresheners as an excuse for making a pretextual stop, something police do all too often to target black people.
	All of that started that.
	Great.
	Good ACLU protecting people's rights to dangle air fresheners.
	No, they don't have a right to dangle air fresheners.
	It's illegal in Minnesota.
	But it should be legal.
	I don't agree with the law.
	Why should it be legal?
	I don't think it should be illegal to have air fresheners in your car.
	I don't know what the reason for the rule is, but the point is...
	But it seems stupid.
	The ACLU, it's so embarrassing how far they've fallen.
	At the end of that sentence, you see it.
	It becomes racial because why?
	Police are constantly targeting black people for dangling air fresheners.
	There we go.
	Checkmate.
	But the point is, it's not a right if it's illegal.
	Of course, in this case.
	And I'm sure it's a really pathetic, pedantic, petty law.
	I don't have any issue with dangling air fresheners either.
	But the point is, it's not legal, it's silly.
	Next one.
	Distraction to driving is what John's saying.
	It probably is, to be honest, but who cares, right?
	Yeah, I don't agree either, but it doesn't matter, right?
	They say, while we are waiting to learn more, we must reiterate that police violence and police killings of people of colour must end, as must the over-policing and racial profiling that are endemic to our white supremacist system of policing.
	What are you talking about?
	Like, nothing...
	Staying with the ACLU. Yeah, absolutely.
	Nothing in this case is reflective of what they said there, right?
	I mean, he was pulled over by a black police officer.
	He was being arrested by a black police officer.
	A typical agent of the white supremacy.
	A black police officer was politically white.
	That's how they would argue it, yeah.
	I think so.
	When asked why the police would pull over black motorists for minor infractions while a racially charged trial was going on just 14 miles away...
	Police chief said, well, they still have to do their jobs.
	The law still applies?
	Yes, it's a mundane reason for stopping somebody, but I think that we need to wait until we know what will really happen before we pass judgment.
	It's tragic on both sides.
	Truly, this is white supremacy.
	The police are basically the Klan, and we need to hear from Ben and Jerry's, in fact, who thankfully weighed in on Twitter, saying, the murder of Dante Wright is...
	The murder of Dante Wright is rooted in white supremacy and the results from the intentional criminalization of black and brown communities.
	This system can't be reformed.
	It must be dismantled and a real system of public safety rebuilt from the ground up.
	Hashtag defund the police.
	Thank you, ice cream manufacturer.
	You've cured racism by abolishing the cops.
	Did it, boys.
	And then you get people like Rashida Tlaib chiming in with exactly the same rhetoric.
	It wasn't an accident.
	Police...
	Wasn't it?
	Sorry, you've seen the body cam footage, have you?
	I guess that the video's wrong.
	But I mean, that is what we're arguing in the George Floyd case, so maybe we should shut our mouths.
	But it wasn't an accident.
	Policing in our country is inherently and institutionally, intentionally, sorry, racist.
	Duarte writes, was met with aggression and violence.
	I am done with those who condone government-funded murder.
	No more policing, incarceration, and militarisation.
	It can't be reformed.
	What's interesting, though, is all they've done is created increased policing, incarceration, and militarisation.
	All of this activity, all of this rhetoric has just ramped it all up until now.
	Minneapolis is just a fortress.
	I mean, why are there Humvees?
	Yep, it's under curfew, it's got the National Guard occupying it, and no one's allowed out after 7pm, and of course everything's being burnt and looted in the meantime because of a fake race grift that's going on by the people who are professional race grifters, who are currently involved in the George Floyd trial and have been stoking up tensions as much as they can around it.
	It's also so pathetic, like the lady that re-shooted Tlaib saying, you know, it's definitely not an accident.
	I bet a million pounds that she hadn't seen the body cam footage before making that statement because it's so obvious by the body cam footage.
	But that's the problem with these people.
	Why can't you just wait?
	Just literally wait a day for the footage to come out and then look at the footage and say, okay, no, they're still in the wrong.
	Okay, no, they're not in the wrong.
	You literally lose nothing by just waiting the day like we did to find out what was going on.
	And the body cam footage came out really quickly on this.
	Yeah, like I was surprised how quickly that came out.
	Me too.
	And I'm glad it came out really quickly because, I mean, I've long been an advocate for body cameras on cops as well.
	I'm glad to see it happening because it's really making these cases a lot easier to deal with.
	But yeah, so speaking of body camera footage and cases that have to be dealt with, What's going on with George Floyd and Derek Chauvin?
	We're at the basically halfway point.
	Apparently there is one more witness or two from the prosecution, but they're sort of rolling out the same stuff to the point that even the judge is shouting at them now.
	So we're going to just get into it and say that this is the halfway point.
	So just to recap, so we ended our last piece of coverage.
	On day nine of the trial, in which this was the best day, the best day ever for the prosecution.
	And I'm glad to be able to say that, because I didn't want to just be sitting here going, oh, the defense is so great, Chauvin's going to get off or something like that, because I don't care.
	I mean, we've said this a million times, I do not give a toss.
	I was just embarrassed by how bad the prosecution was.
	This is their good day, in which they're able to show their opinion in a reasonable way, because they had a good witness.
	This is their expert witness, Dr.
	Tobin, who should be on screen.
	And he is, what is it, a pathology, some technical term for meaning that he Jeremy Corbyn impersonator.
	Yeah, but he's Irish as well, actually.
	So his job is to explain breathing, and he is clearly an expert on this, so I have absolutely no reason to...
	He's an expert breather?
	Wow.
	Yeah, well, it's incredibly difficult, I mean, the science of it and all the rest of it.
	And it's incredibly refreshing, I must say, as well, to look at a clearly expert in the field and give his expertise on it, and it not come off as total snake oil.
	Really?
	So much stuff we cover is just so much such snake oil.
	I mean, take the thing we did on COVID, in which there was this stupid American epidemic lady who clearly lives alone with her cats, and she was asked why your black people die more from COVID, and she said, you know, I think it's kind of weathering.
	You know, black people have weathering in their lives, as if you have racial abuse over your life, and therefore this causes you to die more to COVID. It's just so pathetic.
	And then this guy.
	I mean, you may disagree with his findings and his view and his opinion and blah, blah, blah.
	But I have to point out, it's nice to actually cover someone who does seem to know what they're talking about for once.
	So the first image I wanted to get up is an image he demonstrated to make his point.
	So this is him explaining how breathing works in a human.
	And this is his point in which he's explaining.
	You can see the lower yellow arrow here showing the larynx.
	And just above that is...
	I can't say the word because it's medical knowledge.
	But it's the pipe in which all your air comes through.
	And he makes the point here that if it's extremely small, he says it's about the size of a dime, and then it is this part of the body which makes breathing incredibly hard or not.
	And you can apply a quite substantial amount of pressure to this part of the body.
	I mean, you can see where the knee on the neck would be, for example.
	That would make this smaller, presumably.
	Or, as he says, a knee on the back can also make it harder to breathe.
	But it's not really a problem until you get to the extremities.
	So if we can get the first equation up, so this is the equation he shows off, which just shows the amount of pressure loss for the S here being the area in which he's showing you that part where the dime was.
	And it's exponential.
	So if you get up the next image as well, we have a graph in which this is just lab tests of this exact thing.
	So you can see normal when you're breathing, don't need to have much of an issue there.
	And then when you narrow it 60%, still not much change.
	There's not much effort having to be put on by the patient to breathe more.
	But when you get to 85%, it gets ridiculously harder.
	And of course, further and further, it's an exponential, so it's going to get worse and worse.
	Sure.
	And his argument is, well, if you look at the footage, we've recreated some of where the officers were at all the times to try and get an example of what was going on.
	He said he estimated, based on body weight, there's some problems with that, to try and find out how much force was being applied.
	And his position was, we think about 85% of that tube was being blocked, which means it's incredibly hard for George Floyd to breathe.
	You can see this in how he's moving his arms to try and move himself to breathe more.
	There's also a point in which you can see, he says, where he passes out, where his knees, sorry, his legs come up.
	And the officers interpret this as resistance and they push him back down, as you would expect from an average police officer.
	But he makes the point that in his practice, this is usually the sign of someone having a seizure because they're running out of air.
	And that is the point in which they're dead.
	Of course, this is all just getting to the point that Derek Chauvin could be responsible for the death.
	Him arguing that it's the knee.
	Not really disproving that it could be the drugs.
	So that's the one fault in this one.
	He's not addressing the fact that in other angles of the footage, the knee is between his shoulder blades.
	Yeah, he has to make assumptions.
	Because the evidence isn't all there.
	All he has is formulaic abstractions.
	Yeah, but he is an expert on breathing, and that's the reason he's there.
	He's there to do this part, which is to show that it can be incredibly hard to breathe with restrictions on you, and he tries to argue that the knee is part of that.
	So, Nelson examined him, and he had a bit of a comeback to some of his arguments, but before we do that, I'll just show a clip of Dr.
	Tobin giving his viewpoint on why George Floyd died.
	Yes, Mr.
	Floyd died from a low level of oxygen and this caused damage to his brain that we see and it also caused a PEA arrhythmia that caused his heart to stop.
	Have you formed an opinion to a reasonable degree of medical certainty as to what the cause is or was for the low level of oxygen in Mr.
	Floyd?
	Yes, I have.
	Would you tell us what that is?
	The cause of the low level of oxygen was shallow breathing.
	Small breaths, small tidal volumes, shallow breaths that weren't able to carry the air through his lungs down to the essential areas of the lungs that get oxygen into the blood and get rid of the carbon dioxide.
	That's the alveoli at the bottom of the lung.
	What happened in the case of Mr.
	Floyd that relates to the shallow breathing that resulted in his low oxygen?
	So there are a number of forces that led to that the size of his breath became so small.
	And so there are a series of forces higher up that are leading to that.
	And the main forces that are going to lead to the shallow breath are going to be That he's turned prone on the street, that he has the handcuffs in place combined with the street, and then that he has a knee on his neck, and then that he has a knee on his back and on his side.
	All of these four forces are ultimately going to result in the low tidal volume which gives you the shallow breaths.
	Why did he not mention the drugs?
	Because he's not there to do that.
	He's being questioned by the prosecution.
	So of course they're not going to go after that point there.
	Fair enough.
	Nelson gets to do his comeback in which he goes after him for that.
	So a couple of things to mention about Nelson, the defense's response to this, is he was only handed the slides and the detail about Dr.
	Tobin the night before.
	Right.
	Right.
	So he had to come out and be like, Jesus, I'm rushing this.
	And people could tell he wasn't on form the same way he's been previously.
	He was also kind of hoarse because at the end of the week, he's the only defense lawyer.
	The other side, he got 12 or 14 people.
	So that's one thing to keep in mind.
	He also makes the great point, which is, this is all wonderful, Doctor, but him noticing when he's running out of breath with his knees, for example, or stuff like this.
	And he's like, but look, no one is meant to understand that amount of knowledge except from you.
	So the average police officer, Derek Chauvin, is certainly not expected to know this sort of thing.
	Because it's two hours of questioning Dr.
	Tobin has from the prosecution, and it's essentially just a really long lecture about how breathing works, and it's really in-depth.
	It was interesting, but I can't recall all of it off my head, and certainly no average police officer is expected to know that kind of thing.
	There are some problems with his assumptions he makes though.
	So he assumes that Floyd was a healthy man, which he obviously wasn't from the evidence that's been provided.
	His heart problems and all the rest of it.
	We know that he took fentanyl and meth pills.
	And he argues that, okay, you say he ran out of oxygen at this point.
	Okay, fine.
	But one of the things we're expecting here is that what we're arguing is he ran out of oxygen because of the drugs he took.
	It was an overdose.
	And he says, well, if he takes the drugs at this point, five minutes later, you'd expect him to be at peak reaction.
	It means the lowest amount of oxygen due to the drugs.
	And he says at this point is when he also views him passing out.
	And that's the defense's argument encountered to him.
	So also the fact that the officers aren't meant to interpret a kick as resistance.
	They're not meant to interpret it as him passing out, because why would they know?
	This was objected to, but everyone heard it.
	So the jury will understand that point.
	So, then they had a new witness come on who was an expert on toxicology, as they said, but one of the weird things that happened here is they have her and then they have Dr.
	Baker, the guy who did the autopsy, and she's there to provide her commentary on his autopsy.
	Why?
	Why doesn't he provide his own commentary?
	Why wouldn't they just have him?
	And it's because the prosecution wants to bring as many witnesses as possible to keep reiterating the point, and this will become evident with some of the stupid stuff, and it comes back to bite them later.
	So she prevents a graft of people who died with fentanyl on their system.
	The mean here is 10 nanograms per milliliter.
	Oh, sorry, this is one of the chaps before we get that lady, but the lady point's still true.
	Sure.
	And he points out that Floyd had 11 nanograms per milliliter, so that's above the median.
	And this chap, if we can get this image up, is, as you can see, kind of wasting your time.
	He's like, well, he had this much, and the median of people who die have 10.
	So he's above that.
	That makes it look bad.
	You muppet.
	And there was a lot of this.
	He went through a few other graphs in which you could see he was obviously trying to misrepresent data to tell a different story from what was true.
	So I'm not going to waste too much time on him except the fact that this graph also has a few other problems.
	The fact that they died, that's all it shows.
	It doesn't show you how they died.
	All these people didn't die from fentanyl.
	So there's no data there.
	In which case, why the hell are we looking at this graph?
	Good question.
	So it was so obvious that the guy was sort of wasting your time.
	The only other thing that was interesting from him was he pointed out that the amount of meth was extremely low.
	So it brought up the question of whether or not it had enough effect to outdo the drowsy effects of the fentanyl.
	But this would also contradict his girlfriend, who we've spoken to seriously, who took the same pills and said she was jittery all night, blah, blah.
	I mean, she actually took the pills, so why hypothesize abstractly when we have evidence to suggest?
	Yeah, we have witness testimony of...
	And we saw George Floyd dancing around.
	Yeah, but he also was sleepy in the car.
	They had to shake to wake him up.
	So there's some stuff to be spoken about there.
	So he also says that there's high levels of afentanol, which is basically my understanding, as a layman, from what they explained, was you take fentanyl, it gets digested and turns into afentanol, which is the metabolized version of it, and says that there wasn't enough afentanol in his system for...
	Sorry, there was a lot of afentanol in his system, and this showed that he must have taken the drugs ages ago or something like this.
	It was like...
	Yeah, he could have taken drugs ages ago, or he could take more of them, because he's an addict, and he's in the car with a drug dealer.
	And he shoved a bunch of them in his mouth.
	And we also looked at the squad car, and it was covered in pills that were partially digested.
	It's almost like you're ignoring everything about this, to try and make your point, which he obviously was.
	He was there to be the prosecution's science man, who was going to show you the science on it, which wasn't very convincing, unlike Dr.
	Tobin, in my opinion, who was far more convincing from the prosecution's side.
	The last witness for that day was a waste of time, so we're just going to skip on to day 10, if we can get day 10 up.
	So this is a little bit better.
	This is the one I mentioned that I incorrectly pointed out, that they have a woman and then they have Dr.
	Baker, which is really weird.
	So the first guy they have on is Dr.
	Thomas, so he's a forensic pathologist.
	And this didn't go well, so they tried to argue that...
	So the woman and then the guy would try and argue when they're with the prosecution.
	He definitely died of asphyxia due to the police.
	Okay?
	But then when they were pressed by Nelson, it was like, are there other reasons why he might have died?
	And they all just said yes.
	It was like, well, okay, then why didn't you just...
	Thank you for that reasonable doubt.
	So this also seems like a waste of time, but I'm going to play it because it's just, okay, that's what the truth is.
	So clip two, if we can play, it's just a hurt speaking about this.
	Let's take the police out of this, and I'm going to ask you a hypothetical.
	Let's assume you found Mr.
	Floyd dead in his residence, no police involvement, no drugs, right?
	The only thing you found would be these facts about his heart.
	What would you conclude to be the cause of death?
	In that very narrow set of circumstances, I would probably conclude that the cause of death was his heart disease.
	So this is the lady I was speaking about that's talking about the findings.
	She's asked, okay, because she says she believes it's the police, and he was like, well, if you found this person with just these heart conditions that he's got, we know from the autopsy, what would you say?
	Well, he would have died of that.
	And he's like, well, okay, what about the drugs?
	Let's say he had just these drugs in his system, what would you say?
	Explain the next clip.
	So again, just kind of taking into consideration removing certain variables, right?
	You find a person at home, no struggle with the police, right?
	And the person doesn't have a heart problem, but you find fentanyl and methamphetamine in this person's system at the levels that they are at, would you certify this as an overdose?
	Again, in the absence of any of these other realities, yes, I could consider that to be an overdose.
	And the level of fentanyl in a person, again, in this hypothetical scenario, there are deaths certified as drug overdoses significantly lower than 11 nanograms per milliliter.
	Lower, higher, it's got a huge range, yes.
	As low, I believe, as 3%, or 3 nanograms per millimeter.
	Yes.
	You can see that she was being combative with Nelson the whole time because she didn't want to help out their side of the argument.
	That just goes to indicate just how dangerous a drug fentanyl is.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, it's a huge range that someone could die under.
	You could die at 3 nanograms.
	And he had 11 nanograms.
	So it's like, okay, well, why are we having a discussion?
	Yeah, so she was there just to reiterate the point, and also I think anyone could get whatever they want out of her.
	The prosecution did, saying, oh, it must have been the knee, and Nelson did, saying, well, if you look at any of these things in abstract, you'd say he died.
	Take the knee away, and you'd still say he died of these other things.
	A satisfactory cause of death.
	It was a waste of our time.
	So then they had Dr.
	Baker.
	This is the guy who did the autopsy, whose work she was commenting on.
	Again, why the hell was she there then?
	And he is pretty interesting.
	He mentions that he cut the skin from the neck all the way to the buttocks of George Floyd, peeled him open.
	I know it's kind of gross, but this is what you do.
	It's an autopsy.
	It's a homicide, right?
	So you can't just leave the body as it is.
	And they checked everything and they didn't find any bruising.
	This was mentioned previously, that they just didn't find any bruising from the knee, which they were hoping to expect and they didn't get.
	You would think would happen if he's being choked to death.
	Yeah.
	I mean, at a point they keep making, like the knee is meant to be a point in which there's a lot of pressure.
	So they're trying to make the argument, but if it causes no bruising, that's unexpected.
	I mean, it doesn't rule it out, obviously, but it's something you would expect.
	So then he's also asked about the fact of, well, what do you think caused the death of this guy?
	At one point he argues that yes, it must be the knee on the neck, but then when he's asking about the other factors around it, and he speaks about that, he points out that actually this may have just been too much for a sick man.
	And yeah, not what they were expecting at the play.
	So, Dr. Bates, Baker, can you tell us how it is physiologically that the subdual restraint and neck compression caused Mr.
	Floyd's death?
	In my opinion, the physiology of what was going on with Mr.
	Floyd on the evening of May 25th is you've already seen the photographs of his coronary arteries so that you know he had very severe underlying heart disease.
	I don't know that we specifically got to it, counselor, but Mr.
	Floyd also had what we call hypertensive heart disease, meaning his heart weighed more than it should.
	So he has a heart that already needs more oxygen than a normal heart by virtue of his size, and it's limited in its ability to step up to provide more oxygen when there's demand because of the narrowing of his coronary arteries.
	Now in the context of an altercation with other people that involves things like physical restraint, that involves things like being held to the ground, that involves things like the pain that you would incur from having your, you know, your cheek up against the asphalt and an abrasion on your shoulder, Those events are going to cause stress hormones to pour out into your body, specifically things like adrenaline.
	And what that adrenaline is going to do is it's going to ask your heart to beat faster.
	It's going to ask your body for more oxygen so that you can get through that altercation.
	And in my opinion, the law enforcement subdual restraint and the neck compression was just more than Mr.
	Floyd could take by virtue of those heart conditions.
	Just look at his face, like, did not want that.
	So what you're saying is...
	So that's the prosecution as well.
	He's getting that.
	They're not having a great time with their witnesses, because they are witnesses, keep in mind.
	So he does make the point that he thinks that it was the knee that ultimately killed him, the restraints they had on him.
	But he...
	The question is, did Chauvin try to kill George Floyd with his knee?
	Well, no, because he's on trial for manslaughter and unintentional homicide.
	Oh, I thought he was intentional.
	Not for intentional murder.
	Fair enough.
	The question is more about, is he the cause of death?
	Okay, if he is, well, is this unreasonable?
	If it's unreasonable, yeah, okay, well, did he, you know, so on and so forth.
	There are a lot of stages you've got to get to for each one of those crimes.
	So, the thing that he says, okay, I think it's, he lists the autopsies as homicide, something we should mention.
	Not a legal term, but a term for people who do autopsies.
	That just means it was death at the hands of another person.
	There are other ways of listing deaths, but it doesn't mean he's guilty of homicide.
	And he says it's, in his view, because it's of the police acting on him.
	But he also makes the point there, well, this guy's got a load of problems with him.
	So, even if you want to say that, okay, it was Chauvin and the gang that caused his death, yeah, but if they had done this on a healthy person, would he have died?
	The answer appears to be no.
	The answer from him appears to be no, which is not what they were expecting, ergo the unhappy face from the prosecution.
	He's also asked about the drugs, so on the autopsy they list, you know, cause of death, homicide, other contributing factors, and they list the fentanyl, blah blah blah blah blah.
	And the reason for that is because they say, okay, I think the primary cause, the direct cause is this, but there are other factors that can contribute to his death, and that of course makes things more complicated.
	So let's just play the last clip here.
	There's the cause and manner of death, and then there's the second thing that you left blank, right?
	And then there's the contributing causes or contributing factors.
	Yes, the term of art is other significant conditions is what you're getting at a counselor.
	And that's simply just something you have to do for the CDC, or did you take those into consideration as contributing to Mr.
	Floyd's cause of death?
	So when you put those on a death certificate as a physician, what you're saying is, I think these played some role in this death.
	They had a contributing condition.
	I'm unaware of how the CDC would mandate what goes on there.
	Presumably, the goal is you put things on there that you believe are relevant.
	You don't list trivial stuff on there that didn't play a role.
	And so, if something was significant enough, you put it on, but if it's insignificant and didn't contribute, you leave it off?
	Generally, yes.
	And so in your opinion, both the heart disease as well as the history of hypertension and the drugs that were in his system played a role in Mr.
	Floyd's death.
	In my opinion, yes.
	I mean, not great.
	Not great for that minute.
	Not for the prosecution, no.
	Absolutely not.
	And that's why I saw that as a general win for Nelson that day.
	And then the next day was a massive waste of time.
	So we're just going to briefly cover this.
	But this is something to keep in mind as well.
	Like, that day with Dr.
	Tobin might have been a good day for the prosecution.
	You think there's been 11 days?
	Yeah, one good day.
	And when I say good, that's relative.
	That's how every day should have been for them for 11 days.
	And they got one.
	So Nelson has just been destroying them.
	And this, again, isn't like show voting for Derek Chauvin, but just Nelson's ability as a lawyer has certainly been admired by a lot of people, me included, I have to say, from his way he's acting.
	So the last day here, some of the things, so the intro for the day was more interesting than the rest of the day, the looks of it.
	So they're saying that the testimony is expected to end Friday, Monday, so bring a bag if you're in the And the reason that's significant is it means that they're going to have their last witness, presumably with today, their stuff.
	And then it will be half-time.
	So then it's up to Nelson to bring his witnesses out, which is going to be three days, compared to the 11 the prosecution have had.
	And that sort of demonstrates one of the big problems the prosecution have got in trouble for with the judge.
	So they started arguing with the judge, saying they wanted to bring on another witness, and the judge has kind of lost it.
	By the looks of it, in the politest way possible, saying that no, you're not bringing on more witnesses because you've kept doing this.
	They had an argument a little while ago as well about they brought out two cops, the guys who took over, and then they were like, oh, we want to bring more cops on to give their opinion.
	And he's like, why?
	You've already had two cops give their opinion.
	What are they going to add?
	Nothing.
	And of course, this is just you want as many people as possible to make it cumulative, so you want 12 people saying the same thing.
	Make it seem like everyone agrees.
	Even though these people have no expertise, they've got no thing interesting.
	We weren't at the location.
	We've got exactly the same expertise as the other witnesses you've already called.
	Yeah.
	So they did it with the cops.
	They did it with the toxicology lady who was just commenting on what Dr.
	Baker had already said.
	Yeah.
	And also they got in trouble because they wanted to bring on a guy for talking about policy.
	They're like, yeah, but you've already asked every police officer about that policy.
	Had use of force experts talk about that policy.
	And also the chief police talk about that policy.
	So don't waste my time.
	Just hold and get stuff, which is just good to see that he's enforcing that.
	Hmm.
	So then the day continued.
	So the first witness was a waste of time.
	Again, he was just going over the same grounds.
	One of the interesting things about this, it can be summed up in, other people died of those things, yes, but not Floyd.
	No.
	That's essentially the argument.
	They keep getting around to, oh, he died of knee on the neck.
	Nelson says, well, could he have died of these things?
	And he's like, no, no, no, he couldn't have died of those things.
	Okay, can other people die of these things?
	Yes.
	Floyd?
	No.
	Right, waste of my time.
	No, no, no, no, that's not a waste of time.
	Because what that's demonstrating is the kind of groupthink and the presuppositions that the prosecution have adopted here.
	Yeah, everyone else could have died of all these things, but we don't want George Floyd to have died of these things, because then we have no case.
	Yeah, I mean, this gets back to the meme of George Floyd can't die or can't die of fentanyl.
	But the thing is, if it's found that George Floyd died of a drug overdose, then nothing that happened about George Floyd was justified in any way, shape or form.
	None of the murals, none of the rioting, none of the vigils, none of the public outpouring of emotion.
	It's all based on a lie.
	Yeah, which would be the worst possible thing for them.
	The absolute worst.
	It totally undermines their entire cause, and the cause of millions of Black Lives Matter supporters.
	That's why they're fighting it so hard.
	That's why it's like, could other people die of these things?
	Of course they can.
	George Floyd's definitely not.
	Never.
	Never, never.
	It's politically untenable for him to have done so.
	Yeah, so the next witness they have for the day was George Floyd's brother, a man who was not there, has no evidence about it.
	And no expertise.
	Has no expertise.
	It's really weird.
	But my heart strings.
	So they brought him on to basically be like, yeah, George Floyd was a good guy.
	I was like, that's lovely.
	When he was robbing a pregnant woman.
	Why the heck are you here?
	So...
	So the point made by the lawyer who I'm reading, who writes this website, because again, I'm not an expert on American law at all, by any sort of imagination.
	So he writes in here that apparently it's a quirk of Minnesota law.
	So normally you would bring their brother or someone on if they're being sentenced.
	So I'm guilty.
	We're going to sentencing.
	What sentence should I get?
	I bring on my brother.
	My brother says, oh, he's a good guy.
	He didn't do nothing.
	That's why you would bring someone on.
	But in Minnesota, you just bring them on as a witness for no reason.
	So again, just a huge waste of everyone's time.
	Character witness, I guess.
	Yeah, but again, like, why are the prosecution doing this?
	Because they just want to keep reinforcing it, which is why the judge is mad with them, which, I mean, you would be.
	And then the last witness, again, nothing interesting, except that he kept giving the argument of the prosecution, no new ground.
	But what was interesting about him was that he was pretty much an activist in the whole thing.
	And this was evidenced by Nelson bringing up that he'd written a Washington Post article about George Floyd before he'd looked at any of the evidence.
	So if you can scroll down, we can see his name, which should be on here.
	Yeah, Seth...
	I didn't say it.
	Sturgen?
	Stoughton.
	Stoughton.
	So this is him co-opting an article with the Washington Post in which he's saying that the police shouldn't have done this, how bad it was, based on only the bystander video before he'd seen any of the medical reports.
	No toxicology reports, no body cam footage, no police interviews.
	So why?
	Why did you do that?
	Politics.
	Politics.
	So it was completely pointless to have him there because he was just there to show vote for his side.
	So that's keeping us updated with that.
	That's half time.
	Blow the whistle.
	Now it's pretty much up to Nelson's gang.
	So for most of the prosecution, they would present their witnesses and Nelson would body the lot of them.
	Yeah.
	There are a couple that, well, fair enough, but not exactly a great record for the 14-odd lawyers that the prosecution has, and that's the best they can do, and now it's Nelson's turn for three straight days to go at them hard.
	Yes.
	Okay, that'll be exciting.
	It's going to be interesting.
	We're not going to cover it day by day, I don't think, unless it's majorly...
	I mean, maybe if it's really explosive.
	If it's really explosive, sure, but I think we'll probably wait and then cover it at the end.
	Yeah.
	It's up to the jury to make their verdict again.
	They might just ignore everything.
	Yeah, we're just the peanut gallery.
	Yeah, we're just people looking at it.
	But that's the reason we're covering it as well, because the mainstream media literally won't.
	Anyway, last thing here.
	ADL. We spoke about the ADL yesterday, and who had some very strong opinions.
	So, demonstrate here.
	The Daily Show, they ran a segment in which they had Tucker Carlson talking about replacement migration, which is this concept that you bring in a migration population from somewhere else to replace your migrants, and him criticizing...
	You bring in large numbers of immigrants in order to create a new voting bloc, so you can...
	There are arguments.
	You can bring it in if we're steel manning for the workforce, but of course, they get the right to vote.
	The effect that this has is if you create millions and millions of now legal citizens who have voting rights, you have created a demographic block that will operate in tandem and, as Tucker Carlson was saying, dilute the influence of each individual vote of the native citizens.
	And so there is actually a democratic responsibility not to do this, especially if these people can be swayed to vote in a particular direction.
	Especially if they're all in certain states in the United States as well.
	So he was being criticized for this by saying that him talking about this was the same as the Christchurch shooter killing Muslims because he thought that Muslims shouldn't live in the New Zealand Territory.
	It's just disgusting.
	I'm not going to dwell on it.
	We covered it yesterday.
	It's awful that they would argue like this, especially when the argument is just, he has the same words sometimes.
	Pathetic.
	But the ADL jumped in on this, in which they jumped on board.
	They got listed as Jewish groups by the Daily Beast, because the Daily Beast is a white supremacist outlet, presumably, in which they were criticizing them.
	And then it turns out that...
	The ADL, they're condemning replacement theory here as being a white supremacist anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
	But when it comes to Israel, they've expressed a different opinion.
	So, Tucker Carlson responded to the ADL by just speaking about an article they've written, in which he talks about what they've said, in which they say that if you bring in loads of Arabs into Israel, it would dilute the Jews' vote in Israel.
	The Jewish citizens would not have as much political power, and therefore they're being disenfranchised.
	Well, I disavow.
	That's the ADL's opinion.
	I totally disavow the ADL now.
	Yeah, let's play.
	Of every citizen's vote, obviously.
	You wonder if people even debate questions like this in countries that don't hate themselves.
	Countries like Japan or South Korea or Israel.
	Go to the Anti-Defamation League's website sometime if you'd like a glimpse of what an unvarnished conversation about a country's national interest might look like.
	In a short essay posted to the site, the ADL explains why the state of Israel should not allow more Arabs to become citizens with voting rights.
	With historically high birth rates among the Palestinians and a possible influx of Palestinian refugees and their descendants now living around the world, the ADL explains, Jews would quickly become a minority within a binational state, thus likely ending any semblance of equal representation and protections.
	In this situation, the Jewish population would be increasingly politically and potentially physically vulnerable.
	It is unrealistic and unacceptable, the ADL continues, to expect the state of Israel to voluntarily subvert its own sovereign existence and nationalist identity and become a vulnerable minority within what was once its own territory." From Israel's perspective, this makes perfect sense.
	Why would any democratic nation make its own citizens less powerful?
	Isn't that the deepest betrayal of all?
	In the words of the ADL, why would a government subvert its own sovereign existence?
	Good question.
	Maybe ADL President Jonathan Greenblatt will join us sometime to explain and tell us whether that same principle applies to the United States.
	Most Americans believe it does.
	Unfortunately, most Americans don't have a say in the matter.
	Most Americans aren't even allowed to have the conversation.
	So they watch from the sidelines as their democracy is murdered by people who claim to be its defenders.
	Democracy!
	screams the Twitter mob.
	Even as the votes of the people who were born here decline steadily in...
	Well, I mean, we now go to CNN contributor Richard Spencer to present the ADL's defense.
	Oh, boy.
	I did not expect that response.
	I didn't know the ADL had written something like that.
	Well, I went and looked it up on the ADL's website, and here it is.
	Response to common inaccuracy, binational slash one-state solution.
	So you can see what they're saying there is the inaccuracy, the argument they're criticising, is the concept of a two-state solution for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not feasible and is outdated.
	Instead, there should be a one-state, bi-national state that would be comprised of Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip that would protect the respective Jewish-slash-Israeli and Palestinian identities and interests of its citizens.
	And this, what Tucker Carlson was quoting, is a response to that.
	So, I mean, they literally say the proposal of a bi-national state or one-state solution is nothing less than an indirect attempt to bring about an end to the state of Israel as the national homeland of the Jewish people.
	With historically high birth rates, of course, this will end, as Tucker said, in this situation, Jewish people become increasingly vulnerable.
	It is unrealistic and unacceptable to expect the state of Israel to voluntarily subvert its own sovereign existence and nationalist identity.
	Moreover, as Israeli analyst Yossi Klein Halveri has argued, the notion that Palestinians and Jews could coexist in one happy state is so ludicrous that only a naive or malicious would fall for it.
	I mean, I disavow that.
	What a way to put it.
	Yeah, I totally disavow.
	Well, I mean, she's not without merit making the point that, you know, there's a lot of bad blood there, and therefore integration would take an immense amount of time.
	But for the ADL to be like, the Palestinians will outbreed us.
	And then they also can't coexist with us under any circumstance.
	That's a bit strong.
	So yeah, I mean, this carries on.
	Within certain intellectual circles, the call for an Israeli-Palestinian state has gained traction.
	While counseling the arguments in terms of egalitarianism and justice read left-wing arguments, proponents of the binational state are predominantly harsh critics of Israel, again, predominantly left-wing people, and use this proposal as a vehicle to further their advocacy against the independent Jewish state.
	I'm sure that's actually a true representation.
	Yeah, but we have the same experience in the West.
	We have exactly the same experience in Britain.
	People who hate this country want mass immigration because they hate Britain and they want to replace it.
	Yes, and we can name these people, of course.
	We've got them saying, yes, we're winning, lads.
	Lots of evidence of this sort of thing.
	The same is true as Israel that is true in the United Kingdom or in the United States.
	Yeah, and some nationalist Israelis also call for a one-state solution, so the right wing also calls for the one state, where Israel would annex the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
	Demographic realities would lead to an effective end of a Jewish state of Israel.
	ADL. Anti-Defamation League.
	That's their opinion.
	I mean, this is the far-right argument against immigration.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I suppose the far left or the far right have more in common than we thought.
	LAUGHTER But I just love it.
	I can't get over the fact that this...
	Hang on.
	Before we go, I'm really looking forward to Jonathan Greenblatt's response to this.
	We've archived this article just in case they scrub it.
	They're just going to scrub it and be gone, I bet.
	I bet they're not going to address it.
	Was it Dave Rearboy on Twitter?
	Yeah, so a patriotic Jew, I think he is.
	So he was making the response to this.
	Because it's something to keep in mind.
	People read this and they take the alt-right position.
	It's like, oh, Jews want open borders for the West but not for Israel.
	Left-wing Jews who think in this way.
	And not just that, like the ADL, apparently.
	Yeah, the ADL who used Jews as a human shield.
	So he made the point, he was like, well, no, people want the same for the United States as for Israel, who are normal and reasonable.
	It is these kinds of people who are deceitful who are arguing this sort of thing.
	And he also makes the point here that you have to keep in mind, which is the ADL made this in 2010.
	So it was 11 years ago now.
	So there's the complex point of, well, they might have actually changed their opinion on this by now.
	Yeah, they might be open borders for Israel.
	They very much might be.
	I mean, they might be saying that Israel's a far-right state that needs to be destroyed.
	So that'll be their opinion, I imagine.
	And just to be clear, my opinion is closed borders for everyone.
	I don't think anyone should have mass immigration.
	Not even just closed borders, just borders that are in line with what the population wants.
	Sensible immigration policy.
	Yeah, if the population...
	Everyone looks to Japan, for example, as the best immigration policy, who is interested in keeping their country in existence.
	Not that far left.
	And that makes perfect sense.
	Just, okay, we need highly educated people, highly productive, blah, blah, blah.
	We're going to let you in.
	That's great.
	Do we need hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people who don't really add much to the economy or to the society...
	I actually kind of hate it here and don't want to integrate.
	Nah.
	Don't want that.
	And I don't see why anyone would want that in any country.
	And so I actually...
	I mean, I don't...
	The ADL aren't necessarily wrong when they print this far-right screed against Palestinian immigrants.
	They put it in a very extreme term.
	So I mean, I've got a more sensible position of the ADL, if you want to calm yourself down from it.
	Might just be that we don't need mass immigration from Saudi Arabia or something, because it would make more problems than it solves, which would be perfectly reasonable to say.
	No, the language they're using, though, is like...
	In 2010, probably not very controversial, but now, this is the language of the hard language.
	Demographics, birth rates.
	Again, if you want to talk about...
	If they're saying Tucker Carlson is using white nationalist rhetoric, well then, so are they.
	They're using it more than him, though.
	Way more.
	Because what's interesting as well, if you know, Tucker Carlson was never talking about race.
	Nope.
	He explicitly said...
	Didn't even bring up ethnicity, race, no...
	Explicitly.
	The only time he brought it up was to say, I don't care about it being white, or whatever the words were.
	It's not about race.
	Yeah.
	And yet, with the ADL, entirely about race.
	Yeah.
	I mean, people are like, you know, what are you saying?
	You're unhappy with mass French immigration to Britain.
	Yeah.
	Where wouldn't you be?
	Yeah, obviously.
	Do you want millions of Germans coming over?
	Not really.
	I don't want German towns springing up around England.
	Why would I want that?
	But it's the same thing.
	Like you said, Ted Carlson wasn't even framing it in ethnic terms, whereas the ADL were.
	Yeah, and the more reasonable thing, if you wanted to not put it in just pure ethnic terms, would be the hostility.
	So, I mean, it's harder for the Israelis to integrate Palestinians who hate Israel's existence rather than, I don't know, Swedes.
	And the thing is, as well, it's important to note that the Palestinians don't regularly, or they often don't distinguish between Israel and Jews.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's the same thing to them.
	And so, like, a while ago, a few years ago, there was a BBC clip going around where they were subtitling these Palestinian protests against the Israelis, and they were like, you know, Israel out, Israel out.
	And that's not actually what they were saying.
	What they were saying is, Jews out, Jews out.
	But the BBC were like, well, I mean, we'll just change that.
	Because that seems really bad, and it looks really anti-Semitic.
	So that's because it is.
	But yeah, ADL. I look forward to their response.
	They're trying to defend their position, which is that...
	I can't even make that joke.
	Tone down the alt-right rhetoric, ADL. We agree that Israel deserves to be able to defend its borders.
	Stop being so racist about it, though.
	I look forward to the SPLC putting the ADL as the new hate group.
	Yeah, well, what's the reason not to?
	Come on, give me the argument.
	Anyway, let's go into the video comments, because we've got quite a few.
	So let's start.
	G'day, guys.
	I was starting to hear of the passing of Prince Philip, but I was absolutely furious at the abysmal reactions of my so-called countrymen.
	A 99-year-old war hero who fought actual Nazis has passed, and the reaction's all, oh, he was a racist, oh, he was part of the oppressive class.
	It's pathetic.
	Just get a grip, you absolute losers.
	Have you guys seen any such similar sentiment over there in the UK? Cheers.
	Yeah, that's exactly how they're framing it.
	Oh, look, he was a racist.
	He was this.
	It's like, yeah, he was the last base member of the royal family.
	I don't know.
	I quite like the Queen.
	She doesn't have as many caps.
	No, because she's more careful about it.
	But I told you about her speech, didn't I? Which one?
	I think it was like last Christmas or whatever it was, the one before coronavirus.
	She was reading a speech and she obviously hadn't written it.
	And it was about the moon landings.
	It was like, it was great strides for mankind.
	And womankind.
	Embarrassing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, you know, the...
	I mean, Prince Philip, he was always an entertaining character because you never knew what was going to come out of his mouth.
	And that was the fun bit about it.
	He'd literally say anything.
	And it would hit the front pages and everyone would laugh.
	Oh, Philip, he's such a dinosaur from another age.
	And he was, you know.
	But I mean, how many other people have their own personal cult in Papua New Guinea?
	Not many.
	Not you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Not you, losers.
	So yeah, it just strikes me as cult envy.
	You know, they've told him about his passing.
	Yeah, what was the response?
	No, it wasn't good.
	Did they declare a new god?
	No, no, I don't think so.
	I'll look it up and give us an update another time.
	We'll do Cargo Cult series.
	Yes, we will.
	Anyway, next question.
	For people who are listening, it's the race report.
	Yeah, a little intro video for the race report.
	Whoever did that, well done.
	That was hilarious.
	Oh, man.
	I like deeply cringe book on Black Lives Matter.
	So ever since I got blackout drunk one night, passed out, and got run over by my best friend in my own driveway, I've been trying to cut back on quite a few of my vices.
	You know, cut way back on drinking...
	You know, other staff working on quitting nicotine and diets next.
	So Carl, as the keto guy, what advice do you have for avoiding temptation?
	It's that it is temptation that is the problem.
	So what it is, is the fact that you know that you have the right thing to do, but in your heart of hearts you don't want to do it.
	And so you're looking at all of these other things as if they are good, whereas in fact you should be looking at them as if they are bad.
	Because they are bad.
	So you should be looking at that sugary treat and going, that's an evil thing.
	That's actually seeking to hurt me.
	And I don't love doing the evil thing, which is precisely why I'm trying to pull myself away from it.
	And of course, evil comes in very tempting guises.
	But what you need to do is follow the path of the virtuous man and not just the continent man.
	Because what you're saying when you can resist a vice is what you're saying is, I still love the vice, although I know that I shouldn't enjoy it and therefore I will Restrain myself.
	But then you're fighting the constant battle against temptation.
	Because you are not yet virtuous.
	The virtuous man does the right thing and loves to do the right thing.
	He appreciates that he is making the world a better place and bringing into existence that right state of being that eventually helps him reach eudaimonia.
	And this is what you need to do.
	It's not that the thing is a temptation.
	The thing is a poison.
	That evil, sugary cupcake is a poison.
	And I'll tell you what, like six months ago, something like that, I was in exactly the same position you were.
	You know, you're looking at the nice stuff in the fridge or in the cupboards, and you're thinking, oh, God, that looks good, but I'm not going to do it.
	I'm not going to do it.
	But now I'm not even tempted by it.
	I wouldn't even eat that chocolate cake.
	And honestly, I... Way off my mind.
	I don't even think about it anymore.
	Like, the idea of eating a sugary sweet now, I find gross.
	And to be honest with you, because I've not had sugar for such a long time, sugar tastes disgusting.
	It's like, I don't know, it's unpalatable.
	I mean, I don't even drink like milk now because milk is too sugary sweet.
	And so I have almond milk instead because it's got no sugars in it.
	And so it just tastes like milk without sugar.
	And that tastes like normal milk now because I'm so acclimatized in not having sugar.
	So the point is you have to just continue to do what you're doing until you appreciate the virtue of what you're doing.
	And eventually the vice doesn't even become a temptation anymore.
	That's what you need to do.
	My question?
	Today I want to introduce you to where the thick concepts in Judaism can be found.
	So this is the Talmud and it is the Oral Torah.
	Moses gave us the Bible as the written Torah and then this is the Oral Torah.
	Here you can see these kind of subsections.
	This up here is the Mishnah.
	That was compiled by Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi in the third century and it was practically considered heresy to have written down this stuff and so he kept it as concise as possible.
	This subsection down here that you can see is the Gemara.
	In the Gemara you will see that there is like an expounding and then debating of everything that's in the Mishnah.
	In fact, Koreans Who are studying law will learn snippets of a tractate called Damages because it teaches you how to argue effectively.
	If you wanted to learn every page in Talmud, it would take you seven years and five months.
	I started doing it in January 2020.
	I hope that was interesting, guys.
	See you next time.
	That was interesting.
	Yeah, it was cool.
	Yeah.
	See, I love hearing about other cultures and other philosophies and other worldviews and things like this.
	I find this fascinating.
	I don't see why more people aren't presenting things like this.
	I'd like to hear from other cultural positions.
	I mean, I'm spending a lot of time reading Anglo-Saxon myths and poetry and legends and philosophy, and it's just really interesting.
	And I love hearing all this stuff.
	Let's go to the next one.
	The Jews will not replace us was a chant that had a lot more to do with the likes of George Soros and Chuck Schumer.
	What was...
	Jared Kushner.
	You know.
	We're talking about that.
	I see that's what the alt-right was talking about then?
	But that still doesn't really make much sense.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't really understand the point of it.
	No.
	I guess they're talking about Jewish elites replacing, like, WASP elites?
	Alright.
	I'd have to ask someone.
	Let's move on.
	Hello, Lotus Eaters.
	I'm still watching your previous podcast, but I have to wonder, does heroin guy not know that we actually thought heroin was pretty great when we first discovered it?
	I mean, we called it heroin as it was the angel that was going to relieve our war wounded of their pain in our civil war, but I I guess we banned it because we're racist.
	That's a great point, actually, because almost all of the drugs are now illegal, once medical and medicinal, and you could just go to any kind of pharmacist and buy them.
	Like, about the 19th century, yeah, I'd like, you know, three pounds of, well, not three pounds of cocaine, but like, you know, three grams of cocaine and three grams of heroin, please.
	Here you go, sir, that'd be two hay pennies or whatever the price of it was.
	And off you go, and they're made illegal because it turns out these are highly addictive, and they ruin lives.
	Nah, it's because of racism in it.
	Because we just hate the Chinese.
	And the blacks.
	Yep.
	And the Hispanics.
	Oh boy.
	And the French.
	I just can't get over how you can honestly sit there and be like, heroin's good for you.
	And people take you seriously.
	Well, I'm not on it now because I'm doing interviews.
	But later on, I'll be off my tits, mate.
	You just can't get over how that guy's actually serious.
	Like, he's seriously sitting with people as a professor, being like, yeah, heroin's good for you.
	It actually, it really helps with things.
	New York Times, hey, this professor is saying heroin's great, kids.
	Come on The Daily Show and tell all my audience about how you can take heroin, and that's fine.
	It's mad, isn't it?
	God, man.
	Allahu Akbar, fellow white shooter.
	Let us face the Kaaba and pray, as is our custom, as white people who have a grudge against those terrible, terrible minorities.
	Insahallah.
	What was the one who shot up a gay club?
	Oh, I can't remember the top of my head.
	I know the one you mean.
	Orlando.
	The Orlando shooter.
	Again, another fellow white.
	Although I do like, I don't know if you watch, what is it, Ziv Senchanch?
	I don't know how you say his name.
	Oh, Seth Sench.
	There we go, yeah.
	Yeah, like, I love some of his memes where he has Sam Hyde as this radical white cleric who wants white Sharia.
	Like, I'm amazed it's actually becoming a real thing in the mainstream as well.
	Sam Hyde.
	This white guy from Syria.
	Muslim white.
	Okay.
	Do you want one more?
	Hi, guys.
	Just a request.
	When I post a video with a meme on it, could you read it out loud so everybody gets the joke?
	Other thing, Doombeard, I left you a message on episode 106 at the 1 hour, 12 minute mark.
	And lastly, guys, I found this video quite interesting.
	I want you to see your guys' take on it, see if it's important or not.
	Also, maybe get some fact-checking on it.
	Hmm.
	Are we having inter-video discussions now?
	Yeah, I think it's really funny that people are using the podcast as a way of passing message to each other.
	Yeah.
	I think it's kind of adorable, to be honest.
	I haven't seen that video from The Blaze.
	No, I haven't.
	But, yeah.
	If someone sends a link, I'm happy to watch it.
	Ooh, this is on my alley.
	So someone's posted, you remember we got a comment, someone saying they were going to set up a petition to get rid of Section 127 specifically because previously they tried to go after all hate crime and that is broader and the government can argue things.
	So they've set it up.
	It is now a petition.
	I'm going to post a link.
	Oh yeah, send me a link and I'll start shilling.
	We'll shill that through all heaven.
	People watching as well, like share that with anyone in the UK because they need to know.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So if we can get that to 100k, that'll be good because we've done this before.
	We did this with the grooming game report.
	It was John's petition that got us there, yeah.
	Yeah, but it's a big work.
	It's a collaboration amongst all the different kinds of people who want to get this through.
	I can't think of anyone who's right-thinking who doesn't want to get rid of Section 127.
	If somehow you don't know, it's the law that makes it illegal to post it grossly offensive online.
	Yes.
	It is the law that's destroying freedom of speech in Britain.
	So it has to go.
	And like we did with the previous one, I think we can at least get some motion going on this if 100,000 people sign it.
	At the moment, it's got seven signatures.
	So do your part.
	Service guarantee, citizenship, get out there, sign this.
	Number seven is me.
	Well, number eight will be me.
	Well, actually, people will probably get to it before I get to it.
	But I'll go sign it and then start shoving it out on my social media as well.
	Yeah, I mean, if we get 10k, we get a response from the government in which they will give their position, and if they are not able to repudiate it, what is the point of the Conservatives?
	Honestly, I'm out of that point.
	But 100k, I'd like to see a debate in Parliament.
	Who's going to defend it?
	Yeah, well, Labour will defend it, and it'll be cringe.
	So yeah, we'll start pushing that up.
	We've got to get this to 100k.
	Send it to the other content creators that you like, and you know, get them to chill as well.
	We need to, because this isn't about any one creator, this isn't about anyone's ego, this is about doing the right thing for the United Kingdom as a whole.
	We need to get rid of this.
	And people from all sorts of political persuasions should be able to get past this, get behind this.
	Because these, as Owen Jones would say, are the ancient liberties that our ancestors fought for that have been taken away from us by Labour.
	So we need to sort that out.
	Yeah.
	Also, it'd be a great thing to point out for the Conservatives whenever you meet an MP or whatever.
	It'd be like, hey, how did this get 100,000 signatures?
	What are you doing about it?
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	In fact, yeah, you can send it to your MPs when it starts getting traction.
	Send it to the MPs and be like, Conservatives, do this.
	But it's in their manifesto.
	They said they would do these things.
	Did they?
	Well, they didn't section 127, but they said we will support free speech and blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So they have to.
	Otherwise, no, you're useless.
	Get out.
	Anyway, do you want to read some of the comments?
	Sure.
	Dante Shooter or Dayton?
	Dante.
	Duarte.
	I don't know.
	That old guy says, "In high-stress moments, humans default to their core programming.
	There is a reason you are told how to operate a seatbelt every time you take a flight.
	It's because you default to trying to take off a car seatbelt.
	I've seen this many times in practice.
	You pass your offshore survival test in the UK.
	You are required to escape from an inverted helicopter underwater from a five-point harness.
	Invariably, someone has to be helped out by the divers." Christ.
	Alexander says, "It may have been an accident, but my god, is it awful timing.
	Tragic for both the deceased, the officer, and the families of both sides.
	I hope they find solace.
	Yeah, I mean, one of the things that we're never quite as resonant on the emotional level with these things as we should be because we're very abstracted from the problem where, you know, 10,000 miles away.
	It's in a different country and a different culture.
	And it just pops up on our Twitter feeds.
	And we've seen it a lot of times.
	And we've seen it lots and lots of times.
	So we're quite numb to it.
	But as you say, the guy was a father.
	And he seemed to be around his kid.
	The pictures of him with his kid.
	So it's like looking at myself, Christ, that is awful.
	But then conversely, if you're being arrested, don't fight with the cops.
	Just end of story.
	This is just the cardinal rule.
	Just don't fight with the cops.
	This is not going to happen to you.
	What do you think is going to happen?
	Yeah, nothing good.
	They're going to go, oh, fair enough then, see ya.
	Yeah, well, yeah, he got away.
	Fair play.
	But yeah, it is genuinely tragic.
	A bunch of lives have been ruined because of this accident now.
	Student of history.
	Okay, so let's do a breakdown.
	He shouldn't have had a warrant because of having a gun...
	Because of the Second Amendment.
	He shouldn't have resisted in any way, shape, or form.
	She should have had situational awareness to know she'd pulled her gun.
	It was clearly an accident.
	She still deserves charges because of one of the big rules of gun ownership is that you are responsible for everything that exits the gun, which is why you always assume it's loaded and never aim at anything you do not wish to destroy, which is true.
	I do not believe this was a race incident.
	I believe this calls for more police funding directly to the training department for high-pressure situations and hand-to-hand training such as jujitsu to limit the need to reach for the utility belt.
	Fair.
	I can't really argue that point at all.
	I agree with that.
	And you'll notice how we didn't even make one woman joke the whole time.
	Are you going to pat yourself the back?
	Yeah!
	I'm very pleased with it, you know?
	Let's not ruin it, then.
	No, okay, let's carry on.
	So the only thing I would say is, this is just an idiot, I have no idea, but I do wonder if you could change the position of the taser.
	Like, surely you would want, because they're so similar, why would you just have them on both sides?
	Well, the rule, as I understand it, is you have the taser in your offhand.
	Right, so I'm left-handed, so I'd have the taster on my right.
	But she's clearly right-handed, and she had the gun on her right, and so she pulled the gun, and it's like, why are you tasing with your right hand?
	She should be trained to be tasing with her left hand.
	But I'm thinking, you know, high-stress, she isn't...
	Sure, I'm not saying that she didn't...
	And again, I have no idea.
	But, like, couldn't you have a holster here or something?
	I don't know, just Maybe.
	I'm not saying that there's no room for improvement or anything like that, but honestly, this looks just like a tragic accident where someone who wasn't trying to kill a man made a mistake in the heat of the moment and killed a man.
	So yeah, just tragic, really.
	Chris says, Morning, folks.
	The fallout from this shooting is going to be extra frustrating because it's clear a case of officer incompetence with no aspect of racism, compounded by the fact that he didn't run after being shot.
	He may very well have lived.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, they could possibly have applied first aid and called an ambulance.
	But, yeah.
	Pete says, Yeah, it's really weird, isn't it?
	Gustav says, Callum and Carl, thank you again so much for a great podcast.
	Thank you.
	What is shocking to me is that no one is taking into consideration the fact that the officers from Minnesota are all suffering from psychological issues due to the George Floyd trial, their lack of protection from their far-left chief of police department and government, while all of this time having to protect Black Lives Matter people and other far-left people from each other, and sometimes having to use deadly force.
	The psychological pressure must be extreme and everyone will be on edge.
	I think this is what happened with the Duante Wright case.
	This is the accumulation of these issues into a situation where officers were once again in possible danger due to a non-complying, quote, black person.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	I don't want to...
	I feel I might be reading into it a little bit too much, but I do agree that the psychological perspective of the Minnesota police forces can't be very good.
	Yeah.
	This is one of the reasons it's important that the political class and especially political parties that promote the idea that you just throw everyone on the bus, declare that policing is racist and all the rest of it, can't be stomached.
	Try and tone it down.
	Don't try and build it up like the NBC News going, so this is proof of white supremacy.
	Yeah, but it's also, it's not a small thing.
	Like this is the whole police force for the state and your ideological luxuries are screwing it over.
	Yeah, I mean, well, you're sat a thousand miles away in Los Angeles or New York or wherever.
	You know, these people have to deal with reality on the ground.
	But again, it just speaks to the irresponsibility of activists like Sean King.
	Like, don't hype things up.
	Stop hyping things up, for the love of God, you know.
	Alex says, I'm afraid I'm going to have to be a bit stern on you with the air freshener hanging from the mirror.
	This is where you get BTFO, Callum.
	Minnesota bans them because they can block the view of the driver.
	So what?
	No, there's ban.
	Yeah, and therefore ban.
	It may sound petty, but have you ever shared a car with a Chinese driver?
	Many of them have huge good luck pendants dangling around.
	You can't just ban one set of pendants and not another.
	That could be racist.
	So they ban all pendants.
	It's simply foolish to get caught up on that as the reason the car was pulled over.
	All residents of Minnesota should know the law.
	There's nothing to do with resisting arrest and being shot or tasered.
	Well, I agree, to be honest.
	I don't agree with the law, but that's another problem.
	Sure, but then, like, you know, it's a bit nanny state.
	I'm not saying it's not, but at the end of the day, that is the law.
	Yeah, it is the law, so that is what it is.
	So the police have to enforce the law.
	Yep.
	Moving on.
	Captain Bigos.
	Derek Chauvin's innocence or guilt is a social construct.
	If he identifies as innocent, then he is innocent, you bigots.
	Chauvinists unite.
	Yeah, Derek Chauvin's name, right?
	Why?
	Why is it Chauvin?
	Because, I mean, obviously it's a French heritage, but like, Chauvinism is based from a Napoleonic general, I think it was, called Chauvin, who is like France, right or wrong.
	And this is where it came from.
	But apparently, John says you can't have a...
	Put it back, John, so I can...
	Oh, now he's deleted it.
	Okay, never mind.
	Anyway, but the point is, you can call yourself a chauvinist, and that actually works.
	What, if you're a supporter of Derek Chauvin?
	Yeah.
	What are you supporting, though?
	I mean, I support him getting what he deserves, which is, that's justice.
	You know, if he is in the wrong, he deserves getting time in prison.
	If he's not in the wrong, he deserves to go free and live his life.
	But...
	Is that the position of the chauvinist now?
	I suppose so.
	That's the chauvinist gang.
	Because, I mean, what else is there to show vote for?
	I don't know.
	Anyway, I suppose it would be I'll learn the wrist stuff to show it for, isn't it?
	Having a Thai wife?
	I don't know.
	Thai Appreciation Society.
	The Chauvinist Society.
	The Pro Race Mixing Society.
	Hammurabi says, uh, the pulmonology expert had me wondering, how did someone under extreme stress like George, uh, manage, uh, duress, sorry, like George, manage to maintain normal breath rate of 22 a minute unless he was under the influence of one or more substances?
	P.S. Anyone heard from White Hot Peppers lately?
	I've not seen the name pop up for several weeks now.
	That's a good point.
	White Hot Peppers.
	Send us a message.
	Let us know you're okay.
	Um, and that everything's good.
	But I'm sure she was sent, um, back from the capital anyway, so...
	Yeah, I think that's the last time we spoke to her.
	Right, okay, great.
	But, um...
	Yeah, there was one of the things, Dr.
	Tobin was arguing, I can count the respiratory rate of George Floyd.
	He showed a video and counted it, and he's like, look, that's normal rate for someone, so it's not that he's on fentanyl and therefore slowing down and then dying.
	But, of course, I don't know how meth interacts with that.
	The doctor's like, no, he's got a perfect balance of meth and fentanyl, so his breathing's exactly normal.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Bart No Name says, Dr.
	Lindsay Thomas said, expert witness said, causes, contributors to death are written on death certificates for future statistical studies rather than as a cause of death.
	The actual medical examiner who filled in the death certificate said he put down things that contributed to the death, heart disease, drugs and force.
	Who, oh who, is right?
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	So the lady looking over it was trying to argue that, oh, it's just things so we can look at statistics.
	And yet the guy who wrote the thing was like, no, these are things that might cause the death.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to take the guy who did the autopsy over this lady who's clearly argumentative.
	Michael Kalker says, Carl, Callum and crew, been loving the podcast in general and your coverage of the Floyd case in particular.
	Thank you.
	Callum's the star doing the Floyd case.
	Also Rory doing the updates.
	Yeah, and Rory's doing the fantastic updates and dispatches.
	Yeah, don't go wrong, everyone's been doing an amazing job here.
	"Easily the most even-handed of presentations I've seen, and the detail you present I've not seen elsewhere.
	Keep up the great work, gents." Also, Carl, I know you get a ton of these every podcast, Thank you.
	Super healthy.
	Still no loss of irony of the fact that a classical liberal is so proud of his conquest of bread.
	It's vanquished.
	Absolutely vanquished.
	It's not communal cooking, I guess.
	I still can't go over how the conquest of bread is presented as an actual thing.
	Yeah, you were going to win bread.
	No, but like, if you've read it...
	I mean, in 19th century Russia, that was a big deal.
	No, but you've read it, right?
	Yeah.
	And it's just like the stupidest arguments you've ever heard.
	Like, for people who haven't read it, there's one bit in which...
	We'll do a book club on it.
	We will, but I just want to tell you this one story.
	So he's talking about coats, because of course it's like, how will we deal with food?
	In the anarchist commune.
	And he gets to clothing and he's like, coats.
	Alright, so everyone will take their coats, put them all in a big pile, big brain here, put them all in a big pile, and then we'll distribute them out to the people who need the coats.
	And my critics will say, ha ha, but some women will want nice coats.
	And he's like, no, no, no, most women are okay with average coats.
	Your wife, no one else's.
	It was the same when he was talking about housing.
	It's like, you know, we'll all have palaces eventually, but for now you'll live in shared arrangements and share a big kitchen, because that won't make things worse.
	But also the big kitchen, like how we deal with food.
	We'll just have a big kitchen and three people will do the cooking and then we'll have the same meal.
	Yeah, but if I want a slightly different meal or an entirely different meal, then what?
	Well, shut up.
	That's why.
	Yeah, not my problem.
	I mean, what do you think you're going to eat differently?
	Because we've abolished international trade.
	So all you're going to be able to have to eat is what's grown locally in Kropotkin's vision of the utopian future.
	And he does call it a utopia as well.
	In the first sort of book or essay, whatever you would call it, he goes, well, some people say I'm utopian.
	He's like, yes!
	Yes, I'm utopian!
	Deal with it!
	It's like...
	What a moron.
	That's the lost condition.
	Because it means it can't happen.
	This is why it's just so embarrassing to read so much of this stuff from socialists.
	And they called themselves BreadTube.
	It's like they're asking to be beaten up.
	It's just like, no, you're a moron.
	We're not being in charge of anything.
	It's just so dumb.
	But anyway, yeah.
	Conquest of bread.
	We'll do a book club on it because it's...
	And I think Skropotkin was a hero in his own time, right?
	When he came back to Russia, it was literally like, you know, 100,000 people turned up to visit him at the train station when he got...
	You see the crowds and he's a rock star.
	100,000 brainlets.
	100,000 brainlets.
	Literally.
	And it's like, wow, I mean, there we go.
	But, you know, back in Tsarist Russia, I'm sure it was important to get your daily bread.
	We've conquered that problem and now we need to abandon sugar.
	Alexander Drake says, ADL, only Jews can have an ethnostate.
	Well, in their defense, it might not be their position now.
	They might be like, abolish Israel's borders.
	Now, we're looking forward to Jonathan Greenblatt's updated commentary on the ADL's controversial ethnostate position for Israel.
	They may have changed it.
	It's a very white supremacist position they took for Israel, but...
	11 years is a long time, and Jonathan Greenblatt probably wasn't there when that was written.
	So I don't doubt that he's got a different position for Israel's sanctity and sovereignty.
	We look forward to his response.
	Alistair Crowley says, Tucker Carlson should have brought up the hyper-militarized wall and the ethnostate of the Jews in Israel.
	Well, I mean, Jonathan Greenblatt did that.
	Jonathan Greenblatt's like, build that wall.
	But not for you.
	Dylan Tucker says, What are your thoughts on the powers that be only evacuating people off the erupting volcanic island of St.
	Vincent if they've had their coronavirus vaccine?
	It seems to me insane to let people die a horrific and immediate death because you think it might transmit a virus with a 99% recovery rate, but hey, the volcano god must have demanded it.
	I saw the headlines of this going around, but I didn't look into it because we were doing other things.
	If it is as is represented there, which the headlines did imply, I mean, this was exactly...
	The government was like, well, we don't want to have COVID passports because it might raise issues of discrimination.
	Yeah, I can't think of a more pressing issue of discrimination than if you haven't had your vaccine, you're going to get sacrificed to the volcano guard.
	I like the, there is a steel manifest, like, oh, what if you've got certain boats you don't want to mix because you don't want to spread COVID? It's like, spread COVID? We're all about to die.
	What are you talking about?
	There's a volcano exploding just behind us.
	Shut up!
	Oh, man.
	Anyway, obviously we're against this, you know.
	You're just going to have to catch the coof.
	I'm sorry.
	You know, the people deserve to be saved from the volcano, even if they're infected with a disease that most people survive.
	Anyway, Heathcliff says, Might I just say Lotus Eaters is the highest quality news content on the web?
	Well, thank you very much.
	Daily Wire and Tim Pool, etc.
	are great, but you guys really set the bar for tone and quality.
	Please take a quick look at the Grace BBC article ever.
	Can we get that up, John?
	Man continuing to shield despite guidance.
	So, even though he's being told you don't need to stay indoors anymore.
	So, man, continue to shield despite guidance.
	Let's go down and see if we can get the first couple of paragraphs.
	A really old chap.
	A man who's been shielding for the past year will continue to do so despite government guidance.
	This is no longer necessary.
	Peter Cottle from St Brew, Broward, Cornwall, is concerned about how effective his vaccination is against COVID variants.
	Right, okay, so...
	Cornwall?
	Yeah.
	Cornwall?
	Who's got COVID in Cornwall?
	Well, 18 per 100,000.
	So very low.
	The national average is 54 per 100,000.
	And he's had the vaccine as well.
	But, I mean, I guess he's 70.
	He doesn't know.
	It's his choice.
	I mean, how much difference is it to his daily life if he's 70?
	What was he doing?
	Out clubbing for a bit?
	And then he was like, oh, God.
	I mean, that's kind of sad.
	I mean, how scared this guy is.
	I mean, he's clearly been pumped for all the nonsense.
	Well, I don't even know if we can call it nonsense.
	That's the thing.
	Because, I mean, he is in a vulnerable age bracket.
	But, I mean, he's had his vaccinations...
	The vaccination seems to have worked, so it just seems that it's fear-mongering has put him in this place.
	But not confident.
	I mean, fair enough.
	Jacob says, I'd like to suggest that until all the stupid hate speech laws are abolished, we should play by the rules.
	I believe it's not unreasonable, for example, to consider hammer and sickle as a symbol of hate, as bad as a swastika.
	Therefore, anyone who is promoting the symbol, hello there, Navarro Media and Diane Abbott, should be immediately deplatformed and investigated for a non-crime hate incident.
	I think you could frame it as a crime.
	I imagine that posting swastikas everywhere is a crime.
	Offline, I don't think so.
	Offline, I think it's legal.
	Depends on why you're doing it.
	So it's only if I put it on the internet, it's a crime.
	I suppose they could argue if you do it in a public march, it could be a public section five.
	This is how Black Lives Matter got away with putting there's no black in the Union Jack on the wall, isn't it?
	Well, we didn't upload it to the internet.
	How are you going to get us?
	God, we're literally less free on the internet than we are offline.
	Amazing.
	But I agree.
	I mean, if we're going to have these rules about, you know, swastikas and whatnot are grossly offensive.
	Yeah, well, so is communism.
	It is just as bad.
	We're a bit over time, but this is well worth reading, right?
	Charlie the Beagle.
	Hi, Carl.
	Just caught up with the podcast yesterday.
	I have to say, I was disgusted by the professor advocating for heroin use.
	My mum was a nurse in the maternity ward of the hospital in Dublin during the heroin epidemic.
	She said that the screams from babies of addicts still haunts her to this day.
	These poor babies had to go through withdrawal.
	It also meant that these babies also became heroin addicts because of the choices of their mothers.
	Spouting such rhetoric is not only idiotic, it is highly dangerous to future generations.
	That's right, I forgot all about that.
	The heroin addict babies.
	What an evil thing.
	What is that?
	Well, it's because the mother takes heroin.
	The baby also, having the same system connected, becomes a heroin addict.
	But of course, the doctors can't give babies heroin, and so the baby has to just lay there with these painful withdrawal symptoms, racking them.
	Days old.
	Days old.
	Racking them, screaming.
	They don't know what's going on, and they're just in tremendous pain.
	Welcome to the world.
	It's an evil thing to have done.
	Yeah.
	This guy's position is the doctor should give the babies heroin, presumably.
	Presumably that is the doctor's opinion.
	The professor's opinion.
	Yeah, the professor's opinion.
	Jesus Christ.
	Anyway, that's a bit of a down pill, though.
	But otherwise, today's news was all right.
	Sign the petition.
	It is good.
	We are going to spread that.
	We are going to get it to 100,000 because I want to see the debate, if nothing else.
	I want to see the Conservatives forced to defend the fact that, no, maybe things should be legal.
	Maybe offensive speech should be allowed in a free country.
	And if they don't, Maybe Tony Blair was wrong.
	The edgy conservative take of 2021.
	Jesus Christ.
	If they could be forced to do anything else, that would be the one good thing.
	But otherwise, we will be back tomorrow at 1pm with more good stuff.

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