Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Monday, the 15th of March 2021.
I'm joined by Callum.
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It's a wonderful name and I'm not saying that because I came up with it.
Really good new series they're doing and it's from just really interesting series of topics.
Like in the first one they're talking about European city-states and history and the future of city-states and it could well be that city-states become something we see more often in the future given how integrated everything is becoming.
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And we've got absolutely loads there.
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Ian Miles Chung talking about the Clubhouse Struggle sessions.
Loads of really great stuff that we have there.
And we will be, this week, doing the follow-up to the Thick Concepts podcast, which will be Ethical Knowledge.
And this is all in preparation for the book club for Brave New World.
So, anyway.
Let's carry on with the news.
So this weekend, the news in Britain is going to dominate everything we're going to have to talk about here because a lot of different things appear to have come to a head here over the murder of Sarah Everard.
Now, just to be clear, our position on this is that this is, it appears to be, an isolated incident where a police officer is accused of murdering this woman after snatching her from the street.
There doesn't seem to be any political significance to the murder, and we don't have any personal attachment to the people involved.
So for us, this is entirely abstract, and we don't think that this has a wider implication for society.
Is that correct?
Seems to be, yeah.
There's no trend of police officers murdering women for, you know, whatever reason he ends up giving.
It seems to just be a one-off so far.
Yeah.
So this is a tragic individual event that we don't think is mapped to any greater problem.
What's the response been from the mainstream?
So firstly, I just wanted to get a bit more of the, let's say, just the specifics of the case.
So just what's normal, and then we'll go into the response, let's say.
So the first thing here is he appeared in court, and he was officially charged with murder and kidnapped.
He hasn't been charged with indecent exposure, presumably because they don't have the evidence from that accusation, which was before he kidnapped and murdered this woman.
So the woman he was arrested with in his house is almost certainly his wife or girlfriend.
She's been released on bail.
They don't seem to suspect her of, or they don't have enough evidence to charge her with aiding and abetting, but she's out on bail for the time being.
The human remains they found have now been confirmed to be Sarah Evard, and they're probably going to charge him, and justice is probably being served in this case.
I can't see anything here that makes me think that the police are trying to cover it up.
I don't think the police are trying to...
Do anything wrong here.
It's, right, this guy was a murderer.
We found the murderer.
We're charging him.
It actually seems to all be fairly cut and dried and above board, right?
Yeah, I don't find anything here to be concerned about.
It's like, okay, it's bad that it's a police officer, obviously, but that's not part of a pattern.
It's not like the police are trying to cover up for him.
This seems like justice is being served.
So that's sort of where the story should end in a sane world.
And I looked up, there has been at least one other murder this last year.
Which was a police officer strangling a woman to death in, I think it was Hampshire.
And it's sort of like that.
It's something bad.
Where did this take place?
Was it in Yorkshire or was it in London?
This murder.
So this was, she was picked up in South London.
Right.
We don't know at what point she died, but he seemed to have killed her and dumped the body in Ashford and Kent and then gone to his home in Deal.
Right, okay.
So that's South England.
So it's quite a drive.
Yeah, okay.
Right.
So that seems to be just the case.
But, of course, the reaction to this is what's become the story, let's say.
It's what all the mainstream media are focusing on.
It's what all the politicians are focusing on.
And it has become the political atmosphere here, let's say.
I don't know what else to put it.
It's just been like a mushroom cloud and taken over everything.
It's...
Yeah, so the first thing here is the next link, which is a fundraiser.
So this group, who are calling themselves Reclaimed Streets, decided they wanted to do a vigil for Sarah on the basis that this was bad.
Presumably they don't know her, they're just upset that this has happened.
Fine, whatever.
I'm not for the lockdowns or anything, so if they want to do it, I'm in favour of that.
But they had to go through the proper procedures, because that's the law here, whether you like it or not.
So they had to apply to have it all set up and they were worried that they get fined £10,000 per event they set up.
So they started a fundraiser in which they wanted to raise £320,000 to pay all of these fines if it happened.
They've raised half a million now.
I don't know what they're going to do with that money because they didn't get the permit to do it and then they cancelled.
So the next link here is them taking it to court.
They lost at court.
The high court judge refused to say if it should be allowed or not allowed.
And that was it.
Illegally, they said, you have to talk to the police.
They couldn't reach an agreement.
And the next link here is them officially cancelling it.
So this was the timeline.
The organisation that set up this vigil said, we're cancelling it, we want people instead to set up candles.
So, to be primitive that way, that would be more safe.
So, a statement in here.
A statement from Reclaim the Streets this morning confirms that agreement was not reached and the vigil has been cancelled, with people urging not to attend public gatherings and to consider lighting a candle on the doorstop instead.
So that was what happened.
They say in here that the political part, MP Jess Phillips, speaking during parliamentary debates to mark International Women's Day, said, Killed women are not vanishingly rare.
Killed women are common.
And then there's a quote in here which seems to show that this is being politically used.
A former colleague of Sarah Everard, she's a real person, not some hanger on which to display your views about women.
So, that's a colleague, not a member of the family, but that's what's been said.
Just to speak to Jess Phillips' point, it's actually really rare that women just get kidnapped off the street and murdered.
It's also not increasing or decreasing or anything.
It's a flat line from what I can see of the data.
So the vigil went ahead by the looks of it, obviously, because people decided, I don't care, I want to do something, I'm going to go out.
And the next link here is the Duchess of Cambridge.
Turned up incognito.
She wouldn't make it a big event or anything.
She turned up, had a look, left.
Just wanted to mention it because it's a thing that happened.
I saw a bunch of people criticising her for saying, well, she turned up incognito but she wasn't wearing a face mask so people would recognise her.
Maybe.
I mean, she's not required to, outdoors, in case anyone's wondering.
I know foreigners don't know what the rules are here.
No, I don't know what the bloody rules are.
I don't know what to say about this.
I had a long conversation with my parents trying to discuss, I don't know what to make of this, so I just need to say nothing.
And then there was the vigil itself, so if we get to the next link.
This is the night time, so a lot more people turned up during the night, and you can see them waving their hand.
an instance of a bunch of people sitting around saying this is you know let's remember her name there's a bunch of people who don't know her have some connection they think emotionally i guess with some experience in their lives and then it descended into an s show well just uh just to be if we can go back to that previous one just quickly it looks very much like a religious gathering to me looks like a catholic vigil right yeah so this image you're seeing here with all the lights up this was i believe after the police turned up And they're shining it at the police.
So let's just play the clip of the mess.
F*** the police!
No justice, no peace!
F*** the police!
No justice, no peace!
F*** the police!
No justice, no peace! F*** the police!
There is evidence to suggest that some of those who attended the vigil had been looking for trouble, and the police have been criticised before for not intervening in protests during the pandemic, notably by the Home Secretary.
Why are those men breaking curfew?
34 assaults were done on the police there and one of the wing mirrors was smashed up.
I didn't see the footage but apparently a guy, one of the men smashed up the police's winger for some reason.
You can see them shouting F the police, no justice, no peace which is a statement from the United States not from Britain.
So suspect.
And this went on So the police here are arresting some women.
This became the image of the night, which is that they were snatching women.
If we can go to the next one, it's Ash Sarkar saying exactly that.
They've been snatching women.
So these were women who were up on the pedestal.
They were told to leave, did not want to, and then the police arrested them and removed them.
I can't believe women aren't being protected by the police of tolerance and diversity.
Yeah, and the position of the police in this is interesting, because, I mean, you can say that this is bad optics and all that sort of thing, but they're sort of in a corner.
So they issued a defense, which is that they absolutely didn't want this, but they were put in a position where enforcement action was necessary, is their wording here.
Now, the thing is, this event was cancelled.
there was no event in their view in officialdom and they don't know how many people are going to turn up it could be an unlimited amount of people and their perspective is we're not meant to have a position on the law but we are told by the laws we must shut down events that could risk public health so i mean what i'm anti-lockdown i don't think that this should be the case but from a policing perspective if they hadn't intervened they'd be criticized for spreading covid and if they have intervened as they have they've been criticized for arresting women by the looks of it um
so that's that's what's happened there and of course the reaction to this was what you'd expect so the kathy newman image this is the the image of the night let's say so this was what the narrative was going to be you already know it's that women held a vigil because of a police murderer and the police brutality take place in which they they beat up the women and arrest them And this wasn't just like some people on Twitter.
It was a lot of politicians started joining in.
So lockdown supporter Keir Starmer joining in saying this was deeply disturbing and that they should have the privilege of protesting, which there's the other complex.
But you are in favour of lockdowns, Keir.
You don't want anyone protesting because it spreads COVID, Kia?
What on earth are you saying, man?
There's the complexity, of course, of while some protests have been treated, like the lockdown ones, they got fined, they got beaten.
Piers Corbyn being the most significant one for getting 10 grand fined.
And BLM being allowed to do their thing.
There's a whole mess here.
I watched a debate where human rights lawyers were raking the government over coals about this.
Apparently, the government's position is they wanted protests to be protected, but they were completely unnecessarily fuzzy about when it should be and when it shouldn't be.
So the police are saying, well, you didn't tell us how to do it, so of course there's cock-ups.
That's their position.
It makes sense from the position of the sort of COVID lockdown tyranny to say no protests.
Yeah, I mean, that would have been much more clear.
Either we do that or we do freedom.
But it's been a whole mess instead.
But people like Keir Starmer I have absolutely no sympathy for, unlike some other people here.
Because, like you said, this is him saying they should be able to protest.
We can get the next link.
This is him a couple months ago saying that, no, he should introduce a national lockdown now.
Stay at home, protect the NHS, vaccinate Britain.
So the message was, no, this should not be allowed.
You should be staying in your homes.
But when it doesn't sue him, go for it.
There's also the problem here, as something Hugo covered earlier about that bill, which legalized people, undercover officers, doing some really grotesque stuff.
So someone pointing out in the next one that he voted for a bill that lets undercover police officers off the hook for raping women.
Yes.
That is true.
I don't know what else to say.
We passed something terrible there.
I don't know why the government did it.
I don't know why Kia voted for it.
But whatever.
So then there's also lockdown supporter Ash Sarkar.
Very upset about all this.
Saying, disgusting.
The cops are not allies in the fight against male violence.
I don't get this.
Like...
How is this a case of male violence?
There is an individual police officer who murdered an individual woman, and you hold that individual police officer accountable.
Ash Sarkar's tweets are a goldmine.
But no, it's men.
Men did this.
They're right.
No, but she's right.
Most of the cops are indeed themselves men, so of course they're not going to be allies in the fight against male violence.
Didn't you see them oppressing those women at the vigil?
Yes, that's male violence, even though there were female cops also doing that.
Yes.
Whatever.
But the police is doubtless a patriarchal institution.
I'm sure they're anti-socialist.
So lockdown supporter Sadiq Khan also jumped in on this, saying that it was unacceptable what had taken place.
The police have a responsibility to enforce COVID laws.
But from the images I've seen, the response was at times neither appropriate nor proportionate.
Hmm.
He never seemed to care previously when we're talking about those lockdown protests that were having been carried away.
But also just the same thing here.
Like him arguing that whilst the city remains in lockdown, we must all continue to follow the rules and protect the lives of Londoners.
But when it's your protest, then you don't care.
Well, he's put into a remarkably nice contradiction.
It's like, well, I think the feminists should be able to go out and protest their stupid feminist nonsense, but also lockdowns are important and these things are in contradiction.
And so I want the police to have found a sort of middle way between these two extremes that can't really be established.
yeah the the best take of the night which is now deleted but we managed to save it was from this lady kate brown apparently she writes for the the telegraph if we can get the the image up so we saved this in the discord chat otherwise she deleted it so apparently during all this there was someone who shouted out to the police you should have arrested the murderer and the police responded with we did and then she responded with yeah after he murdered someone laughing Ha ha ha.
As if they should arrest him, I don't know, before he murders someone.
That's the point.
The very category of being a murderer requires you to have committed an act first, so you can't actually arrest a murderer before they murder someone, because at that point they're not a murderer, and so you wouldn't be arresting a murderer, and there's no such thing as pre-crime yet, thank God.
But, you know, always could be.
And also lockdown supporter Caroline Lucas from the Green Party also said that the police action was them engaging in police brutality and the scenes were absolutely shocking.
But what they did here, from what I can see, is there's no patents being used.
There's no horses being rammed into people or anything.
They just took the people who they said, you have to leave or you'll be arrested, and arrested them.
That's fine.
Like, that's not police brutality.
I can disagree that this should have been policed at all because I'm not pro-lockdown, but that's not brutality.
That's an arrest.
Well, if anything, compared to what happened at the Black Lives Matter protests and then the Football Lads protests, this is a remarkably soft touch from the police.
So the complaint seems to be you can't arrest them, they're women.
Which, no, because we live in a society that the law is that we should treat men and women exactly the same.
Let's ask Priti Patel how she feels about this.
Yeah, but I find that kind of conversation for another time.
You can't do this to me.
I'm a woman.
That's exactly the attitude that was adopted here.
So, in response to this, people being upset that the police arrested people, there was a protest the next day, and I've put together some of the clips of the protest of the next day, in which you can see some of the infiltration getting much worse.
So let's play Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh a
A lot of middle-class white women there.
So for people who couldn't quite hear, they start with a Sata Shakur quote, that we have nothing to lose but our chains narrative, which is an American thing, again.
And then no justice, no peace, F the police, which is, again, an American thing.
And then A, C, A, B, all cops are B words.
Well, again, an American thing.
All of this is Twitter protest activism.
Yeah, this is not homegrown in the slightest.
And you'll notice that it's middle class, white women, university educated, doubtless on Twitter way too much.
And people who I'm sorry to say, I do not believe for a second they are sincere.
I don't think they have any interest in the lady who was murdered.
I don't think they have any connection.
I don't think most of them care.
I think most of them are there for political purposes, such as this lady here, who is a Labour MP, who decided to go out and march with the protesters, even though she had previously made a big fuss about the fact that we all need to follow COVID rules as well.
Shock horror.
So then there's the fact that she tags in here a group called Sisters Uncut underneath.
So if we just go to their account so you can see their logo.
And then we'll go see...
Is this Women Against Circumcision or something?
I'm not quite sure.
They seem to be just against domestic violence.
Feminist group taking direct action for domestic and sexual violence services.
But they were handing out leaflets, and if we can go to the leaflets, it starts to get a bit more clear.
So let's go to the next image here.
So they're saying in here at the top, it's hard to read, but if you're caught by the police, you're not allowed outside for protesting, so they're admitting that they're breaking the law by doing this, even though I don't think it should be illegal.
They should say to the police instead they're exercising within their bubble, which is obviously not true, so that's one thing.
And then they go on to argue that, in the next image, that this sort of violence is rampant throughout society and we must do things about it and whatnot.
So it's like, okay, so you've come here with a political agenda to try and radicalize people, in my view.
Well, obviously.
I don't think you have any interest in the lady.
I mean, I don't think it's in any way contentious to say that actually what's happening here is not a sort of grassroots...
Movement of women who have been awakened across the country because of the rampant male violence.
This isn't like a Rodney King circumstance for women, where they've been living under the oppressive heel of the patriarchy and suddenly, oh, this was the final straw, and now we're going to go out and protest.
This is very clearly radical left-wing activism that has been inherited from Twitter, from our American cousins, that is being applied in a country where the problems simply are not the same.
Yeah, but I have to lament the point, because I've just seen so many people who just don't get this, like so many normies, and I can't stand it.
So just to lament it even more, let's go to the next image, which is just some communists turning up, holding their signs.
So this guy with a little newspaper there saying about capitalist Britain.
Fight racism, fight imperialism.
Is now the time, though?
British state, racist state, fight racism, fight imperialism.
And then if you go to the next image on this tweet, they've got their own banners that they've brought, which clearly made...
Fight police brutality!
For this protest.
That's not what this was.
This wasn't police brutality.
Like, the police officer was not enforcing the law...
It wasn't like she's out-breaking COVID. And then he killed her by accident or something.
Like, no, this guy's a murderer.
Yes.
I don't know what to say.
It's just absurd.
And then there's just the signs.
You can see how the signs are the same signs they used a few months ago for BLM, and it's the same goddamn people.
So this is just highlighting some of the signs here from the footage.
Yeah.
Defund the police.
The Met is inherently racist and violent.
Abolish the police.
Defund the police.
Police saw the perpetrators.
It's just the same stuff, like exactly the same stuff, which is embarrassing.
And of course the question is, well, why is this all of a sudden happening?
And I'm not someone who thinks that there's some kind of conspiracy going on.
I think it's just part and part of politics.
Some people have found a case they think they can jump on in a similar but not exact way to George Floyd.
People jumping on that.
He was arrested.
He's being charged with murder and manslaughter.
They don't care.
They don't care about the legal process.
This guy was arrested.
He's being charged with murder.
Again, they don't care about the legal process.
They don't care what's justice.
They just care about their politics.
Well, that's because there's literally nothing they can say.
You should have arrested the murderer.
We did.
Well, you should have done it before he murdered.
Okay, now you're in the realms of absurdity.
Yeah, so the left is protesting this, who are anti-police.
That's no surprise.
The police are a barrier to them for their leftist revolution.
So, of course, they're doing that.
But there's some other politicking going on here.
So the Tories are proposing a bill to make serious annoyance in a protest, a crime, and, what was it, like causing a disturbance and stuff like this?
Which seems like a bad bill.
I'm not in favour of it.
It seems bad.
But it's awful.
The idea that making annoyance and offence illegal just...
But the obvious thing here is Priti Patel is trying to pass this to target Extinction Rebellion and Black Lives Matter.
It is directly in response to those protests.
And as much as I don't agree with them, I do support their right to protest.
Yeah, but I also support their right to protest because it hurts their cause.
Them coming out and being a serious annoyance to the point that everyone hates them Yeah.
More protests.
More protests, yeah.
It exposes them for the fanatics that they are.
So there's also feminist fanatics who are trying to get political capital out of this.
So Jess Phillips was arguing on many TV stations following all this that she wants to make misogyny a hate crime and therefore privilege women in that sense because she's not arguing it for hatred against men.
Or hatred on the basis of gender.
She's saying hatred on the basis that they're women.
Yeah, she's not interested in the reverse.
Can we just make a quick note?
Jess Phillips' rhetoric all sounds rather turfy as well surrounding this.
I've not once heard her say anything about trans women.
She just keeps going on about women.
Well, she actively excluded them from her speech department.
Seems that way, yeah.
So that's one thing.
But there's also just the other fanatical feminists in the culture.
Let's go to the next link.
There's this male guy on BBC, and he was arguing.
So he was basically arguing that we need to not teach women to be safe.
We shouldn't argue that you should take karate lessons or hold your keys or make sure people know where you're going or anything like this.
We should teach men not to murder and rape.
He just sounds like a man who wants women to be vulnerable.
But also just, what is he talking about?
Name me the murder advocacy group.
You know, name me the people who are arguing we need to murder more women.
Do you think the police officer who's been charged with Sarah Everard's murder didn't know that murder was wrong?
But it kills me, because this is the same arguments you had in 2012 with the whole rape culture argument.
It's like, we live in a rape culture, and it's like, well, name the rapists.
Name the people who are like, yes, rape is cool.
That's not happening.
And then this is like, oh, we live in a murder culture.
That's just not true.
Why did we arrest the guy?
Why does everyone condemn the guy?
They don't care.
They're just trying to get more political capital, I think.
And then they're just factually wrong as well.
So let's go to the BBC link.
If you can scroll down to the first graph here, there's a graph of killings of men and women.
So this is what I was talking about earlier.
You can see the male graph is sort of spiking a little bit since 2015, most likely in response to what's happening in London.
And the number of women being killed is basically stable.
It's a flat line for the last 10%.
But it's also about, what, 50% lower?
Yeah, it's much lower, which is to be expected.
I mean, most murders are men killing men and then men killing women either in the household or something like this.
The data shows that men are the victims of people who want to murder them who are strangers, women much less so.
So if a woman walks home at night and a man walks home at night and a stranger wants to murder them, the man is actually more likely to die as well.
I mean, look at the numbers here.
1,425 women were killed by men in the last 10 years.
Up to 2018.
Yep.
So, okay.
I mean, that's bad, but 142 a year?
I don't think that's epidemic.
Yep.
No, it's not a huge increase or anything like that.
There is no argument here.
There is nothing on the basis of fact.
But of course, these people don't care about facts.
They only care about being virtuous.
They want to be the ones who are remembered on the right side of history and all that.
And they aren't.
They are evil.
They are morally inferior to the people caring about facts here.
And I want to make the point, and I'm going to use some articles from Spike.com, which is a great outlet for this.
So this is one person arguing that you should stop exploiting the death of Sarah Evard, and there's some great quotes out of this.
We are being told that what is happening to Sarah could happen to any woman anywhere, only it won't.
The very fact that Sarah's story has gripped our collective consciousness to such an extent that it indicates how rare it is for a woman to be abducted and murdered by a stranger.
It's true.
If this was normal, no one would care.
It certainly wouldn't be front-page news and dominate the political consciousness of Great Britain.
Yeah, and then there's the people who know her.
So we mentioned a colleague who said that you shouldn't be using this to put your opinions on women.
There's also someone who was a friend.
So there's someone who wrote an article saying, this is not what Sarah would have wanted.
I think my friend would have been unsettled at how her death is being politicized.
So she was apparently planning to go to the vigil and then decided not to, and is very angry at the way it turned out.
She doesn't hear...
My friend's tragic death has been hijacked.
It is not a tribute to her anymore.
It is about something else.
And I don't like what it's become.
Sarah was a victim of one of the most horrific crimes imaginable.
She was extremely unlucky.
And that's all there is to it.
And that's what the data shows.
And these leftists jumping on board and being like, this woman's death, we can use it for leverage for our political purposes.
I just find it disgusting.
They should be embarrassed.
Oh, it is disgusting.
Yeah.
It's an embarrassment as well.
But again, reality really doesn't matter in this circumstance, because they're looking for a martyr, so they're not really looking for factual analysis.
What they're looking for is pathos.
They're trying to stir people up, get some upswell of emotion, and bring in some kind of change.
But the thing is, the change that they've been asking for isn't really very well defined, and so it's ended up in, should there be a curfew for men?
What?
Yeah, because they have no policies they can recommend.
Well, yeah, exactly.
Oh, we should make murdering women illegal or something.
Sounds a good idea.
Don't worry, buddy.
We've already done it.
Yeah.
This is the argument with the murder culture.
Like, not only is it illegal, we enforce that law.
It's not like something we're like, ah, we'll put it on the books, but we won't do it.
Like, no.
Murdering people is enforced.
We get very upset about people murdering people in this country.
Sorry to tell you.
I don't even know why we have to have this as a particular conversation, but there we go.
But again, it's all about pushing an ideological agenda that doesn't have any particular resemblance to reality.
That's the problem.
You know, if we lived in an oppressive patriarchy where men were murdering women left and right, and the authorities didn't care, and, you know, okay, fine.
You know, maybe if this was like Saudi Arabia or something, I would agree that, oh, God, yeah, there does seem to be a problem here, and It seems that society is generally permissive of a guy just snatching a woman off the street because of whatever reason and murdering her.
But that's just not the case.
And they can't make it the case.
And so they have to just continually tell all these lies.
And so this section we're going to go into is what I'm talking about is essentially just the sort of feminist nuke that's gone off.
Because what they're trying to do is fold this into the feminist rhetoric.
But the thing is, the feminist rhetoric...
I mean, it wasn't really very strong to begin with.
And as you've shown, the data just does not support it.
And so, what are we doing?
So, it begins with this activist organisation called Reclaim the Streets.
Now, this sprung out of nowhere.
As you can see, the Twitter account was started in March.
So, this has obviously started in response to this.
It's already got 33,000 followers.
And it seems to have been founded by labour activists.
One of the founders of this organization is someone called Hena Shah, who describes herself as London's young labour, founding organiser of charity So White, All My Terrible Opinions My Own, and she retweets people like Dr. Shola and David Lammy.
She's followed by Sadiq Khan.
She's followed by Sadiq Khan.
So, radical left-wing labour organisation.
That's what we're looking at.
It's, as you saw, raised half a million because they want to channel their collective grief, outrage and sadness in our community over the events of the past week.
I don't know what that means.
It means the same thing as honouring the sacrament of Jesus Christ.
It's a religious sort of doctrine that you're looking at.
It's not about any one particular thing.
It's about general sentiment.
But, of course, they got this cancelled, as you said, and so they say they're going to donate the money to women's causes around the country instead.
And if there's one thing we've learned about socialist activists, they're not corrupt at all, and we can guarantee all of this money is going to go to exactly the places where it's supposed to go.
I mean, the millions and millions of dollars that were given to Black Lives Matter that ended up with Democrat organizations.
What, that was what the money was for, was it?
No, of course it wasn't.
And I have no trust that these people will do the right thing.
I mean, the right thing to do here is to just reject the money because you didn't get fined, or to give it to the family.
That would be the honorable thing to do.
Yeah.
But no, it'll go to women's causes, whatever that's supposed to mean.
And of course, there'll be no accountability for any of this.
So who is the woman who was arrested?
I find this person interesting.
This is one Patsy Stevenson.
She was one of four people who were held by the police.
This is the lady in the viral photo.
She said she went down to the gathering to, quote, support every woman, every single woman who cannot walk down the street by themselves because of fear of men.
Now, that's not to say that the streets are especially dangerous for women, as we've seen.
They're not.
But it's speaking from a sort of more egocentric position, as in, they can't walk down the street because of the fear of men.
It's like, okay.
But then, I mean, why signal that out to women?
Because if it's late at night, I don't particularly want to go walking down the streets because of a fear of men.
You know, and it's true.
It could be a bunch of guys that I'm afraid of, and it's not because they're men, but it would be men I would be worried about.
The fear of death.
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's more about the fear of death, yeah.
And the fear of being beaten up and being robbed and murdered, right?
So, you know, I'm actually kind of sympathetic to the I don't want to walk around alone at night in a city, right?
Well, who the hell does?
Anyway, so she's a part-time model and actress, and apparently she's a student at 28, and people have been saying that she's a crisis actor, and I think that's probably too strong.
I don't think that's the case, because I watched a few interviews with her, and she just seems like a radical left-wing activist, like this insane, men-are-evil sort of type of activist.
Let's play the clip.
I came here to support any woman, whether it be cis women or trans women, every single woman, who cannot walk down the street by themselves because of the fear of men.
And it's not all men, we know that, that's not what we're saying.
But, you know, there does need to be a change where women have freedom to live their lives in peace without fear.
Women need the freedom to live their lives in peace without fear, Callum.
I just want to ask her about the, I must say, woman who was sent to the female prisons and then raped the inmates with her penis.
I'd love to know what she has to say about that.
I don't think she has anything at all to say about that.
You're a big and you're blocked.
Yeah.
But the point is, she's acting as if women are living in a state of tyranny, which is interesting because I would say that women have freedom.
But the thing is, it seems that she's kind of saying that actually freedom is scary to women, and maybe we should return to the strong arms of the patriarchy.
Maybe it should be that women should have a male chaperone when they're walking around.
I mean, that would be one way of easing their fears of wandering around at night, do you not think?
How progressive.
Anyway, she got arrested and fined and then was just released.
She wasn't injured, obviously.
And so what great martyrdom has she gone through?
But the viral photos look good.
It looked like police brutality, even though it wasn't, obviously, as you can see by the lack of injury to her.
I mean, just Gordia pointing out here, if we can scroll down a little bit.
Like, this is the protest about lockdowns.
Yeah, if we can scroll down a little bit, John.
People being dragged away here?
Well, no, there was an old lady who was thrown to the ground by the cops.
Yeah, she got up on a chair, and then they pushed her, and the chair fell down.
It's like, I don't even think that's necessarily brutality.
I mean, go to Russia if you want to see brutality.
But this is just arrests.
This is policing.
I'm sorry.
The picture of the cop in Belarus next to the body explains the mind, you know?
But yeah, so I think this is definitely stretching the definition of police brutality.
And the thing is, in that little interview, Patsy seemed very eager to get out and do more protests.
She's like, what should we do?
Oh, more protests.
Right now, tomorrow, all day, every day.
Until what?
Yeah, until murder of women's made illegal, I guess.
Yeah.
But anyway, so Sadiq Khan, of course, denounced this because this looks bad.
The scenes from Clapham Khan are unacceptable.
The police have responsibilities to enforce COVID laws.
But from the images I've seen, it's clear the response was at times neither appropriate nor proportionate.
I'm in contact with the commissioner and urgently seeking an explanation.
Well, the explanation, obviously, Sadiq, is that you wanted the COVID laws.
And you wanted them enforced.
And to enforce them, when people say we won't cooperate, requires physical force.
You're going to have to move them and then find them.
And so it seems like Chrissy Didick did nothing wrong.
Sounds like you're about to start quoting Radcheck, though.
Well, pretty much, actually.
I mean, at the end of the day, you know, if you want people to abide by your rules and they refuse to, you've only got one option, don't you, Sadiq?
Anyway, so Chrissy Didick, there were many, many people calling for her head to roll, metaphorically, that she should resign, and she has refused, which I find interesting.
It seems that Priti Patel and Boris Johnson are on her side, which...
good, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, for people who may be aware, like Cress the Dick is a very woke leader of the Met, but it's also kind of like, well, if they get rid of her, who they're replacing her with?
Another woke idiot?
Someone even more woke, presumably.
But anyway, so Boris said he was deeply concerned about this, but we'll get to what Boris did, or didn't do.
But anyway, so the BBC inform us that under the current lockdown rules, two people can meet for recreation outside, or for coffee on a bench, and people will be allowed to meet outdoors with the Rule of Six from the 29th of March, and until then, there'll be fines of £10,000 to someone holding gatherings of 30 or more people.
So these people should have had £10,000 fines, like Piers Corbyn got.
Didn't happen, though, did it?
This would be because the police of Vice and Virtue, sorry, of Diversity and Tolerance, are very, very woke and very progressive.
As you said, Christina Dick being a woke lesbian commissioner, she's very much part of the endorsing of the LGBT style of policing.
And so when you had in 2020 the Black Lives Matter protest, the police, instead of breaking the protest up because it's endangering lives, instead took a knee, which is nice.
They didn't take a knee when it came to the football lads, the supporters of Lord Voldemort and the anti-protest, anti-lockdown.
They've never taken a knee at a protest about grooming gangs?
Nope.
They don't care about that at all.
But they do when someone dies in another continent.
Weird.
Anyway, so yes, you had the same sort of thing with the Black Lives Matter protests.
I mean, if you want to talk about police violence, having 41 arrests with 22 injured officers, maybe that would be I'm not satisfied with the explanation they have provided.
But what could their explanation have been otherwise?
He's demanding a full independent investigation.
It is vital that the events are not allowed to undermine the powerful calls since Sarah's murder for meaningful action to finally stop men inflicting violence on women.
Just how can that happen, Sadiq?
We call for men to stop inflicting violence on women.
This is like the Labour government saying, what did they say?
We've criminalised child poverty.
Yes.
Good.
Done.
Glad we abolished it.
Yeah.
Don't know why you don't just abolish violence.
That simple.
Yeah, that simple.
So anyway, in a now-deleted tweet, the Fire Brigade Union, which I'm guessing is controlled by radical leftists, considering it's being followed by Bain Labour and other people, denounced the violence by the police.
We utterly condemn the violence meted out by the Metropolitan Police last night in Common.
It sounds like they were trunchening these women into submission, right?
Which obviously they weren't, because we saw the video of it.
These grotesque displays have no place in our society.
Calm the hell down.
You know, just stop.
And, of course, in response to this, you had other radical leftists promoting more protests.
This is Comrade Ash Sarkar, the literal communist, saying women are taking their grief to the doorstep of the Met Police.
Today, New Scotland Yard, 4pm.
Okay.
And so, outside Scotland Yard, hundreds of protesters have chanted, shame on you, as police officers stood guard at New Scotland Yard before marching to Parliament Square.
It's like, good.
Good.
Go after them.
Go after the police of tolerance and diversity.
Not a right-winger in sight at this point.
This is why Boris should just zip it.
Just zip it.
Do not say a goddamn thing.
Don't do anything.
Don't say anything.
Not your problem.
Not your business.
Okay.
So anyway, this was Sisters Uncut who forced the officers to erect barriers around the Metropolitan Police Headquarters and the group of demonstrators spilled over into the road next to the Thames.
Again, COVID rules, £10,000 fines, any, you know...
Anything to do there?
Never mind.
The group tweeted, police are perpetrators of individual and state violence against women, as evidenced last night.
As if the kidnapping and murder of Sarah Everhard was part of state-approved operations.
It's fucking ridiculous.
It's just ridiculous.
What is the narrative here?
This is worse than the arguments about George Floyd.
Yep.
This is brain-mouthingly stupid.
Way worse.
I mean, of all the most privileged people in society, white women, middle-class white women, are at the very, very top when it comes to being handled gently by the police.
There's just no question.
Any other demographic, any other gender, gets it way worse from the cops than white, middle-class women.
But police are the perpetrators of state violence against women, as evidenced last night.
Police abuse the powers they already have, yet the government plans to give them more powers in the police crackdown bill.
We must resist this.
Er, based?
Hello, comrade.
Yes, yes, we need to stop this bill.
That would be good.
Banners in the crowd said, Men, your silence is deafening.
Well, I guess it is.
I mean, where are the men's advocacy groups?
Oh, that's right.
They were shut down for being sexist and misogynistic.
Like, where are the MRAs?
Surely there would be some sort of men's advocacy who would come back and say, yes, we men are very much against violence against women, but unfortunately you've silenced them.
I mean, shock.
Yeah, shock horror.
But there's no one to be counted.
So men are just silent on the issue.
Cressida, you're a woman too.
Sisters United will never be defeated.
Time's up pretty.
End state violence and, of course, abolish the police.
What happened to Sisters United with pretty?
Yeah, well, I mean, maybe they're racist.
She's brown.
They're not.
I mean, maybe there's another thing.
But anyway, yeah, so a petition got dragged up from the depths of the internet.
This petition was two years old, and as you can see, the signed things ticking along.
People have decided, yep, we're going to start signing this to make public sexual harassment a criminal offence in the UK. All right, how do they define this?
Well, they define it as wolf whistling.
Yeah, of course they do.
Public sexual harassment is a very, very strong-sounding term that can be reduced to wolf whistling, and they want it illegal.
It's illegal in Italy, you know.
Which doesn't surprise me, frankly.
I mean, I'm not in favour of wolf whistling.
No, it's cringe.
Like, it's cringe, yeah, but a crime?
Really?
Like, you can't survive a wolf whistle?
I don't know.
I mean, turn around and tell him he's a load of words that I can't say on the podcast.
I look forward to them going further, frankly, and making merely looking at a woman illegal.
Men will have to wear blinkers, possibly, going around on the streets like horses.
That is assuming they're not out after their curfew.
Yeah.
Although you were arguing maybe a curfew would be a good thing.
I think it'd be a great thing.
Because then you could just be like, sorry, love.
Yeah.
Can't go out shopping.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
My wife's like, can you go down to the shops and get something?
Nope.
No, I can't.
Because, you know, I've got no particular desire to leave the house after 6pm anyway.
By that point, I'm already in my pyjamas and my slippers.
Yeah.
Jess Phillips has demanded change, saying apparently women don't matter as much as cars, which was based.
Obvious BS. Yeah, obvious nonsense.
And it's just, again, like, everything...
I've watched a bunch of her clips, and everything that she says, she's got a kind of harsh smile on, because, again, she knows all of this is kind of fictional.
I mean, you can see her even in the picture there.
She's barely struggling to contain a grin.
This is all like, oh, women are so oppressed, women aren't valued.
It's like, ha ha ha.
You know, that's not true.
You can barely suppress the grin, the liar's smile that is coming out from all of this.
You are duping people and everyone can see it.
Good phrase.
The liar's smile.
It is.
It's true.
When someone thinks they're getting away with a lie, and this is in public, millions of people are watching this, and she knows that millions of people are lying directly to them, she's making up a fictional scenario, and they've all got to buy it, or else be misogynists.
So that gives a tremendous power.
That must be a hell of a rush for her to enjoy.
And you can say that she is.
But anyway, so let's have a look at that radical left-wing propaganda that you brought up earlier, because I find this really interesting, right?
The police claim to protect women but continually enable violence against us.
The police enable violence against women.
It's the next one, please, John.
It's so sane.
It's just so sane.
The institution of policing was founded on violence and coercion.
Yes.
Yes.
Otherwise, how else would they be police?
Exactly.
It was deliberate, in fact.
In fact, the sort of people who would murder women should have violence done to them if they're in the act.
No, no.
They have an opinion here that it should be voluntary.
The police should come and go, would you kindly stop murdering people?
Well, sorry.
I'm not going to do that.
Well, if only we could do something.
But as they say, violence begets violence.
If we're violent to him, then someone else is going to be violent to someone else and we can't do a thing.
Abuse was enacted by police in the streets and on the borders finds its way into our homes.
I guess the police are kicking in the doors of women and abusing them in their own homes.
I don't know.
Deporters?
Are they saying they're deporting them?
Sorry, what?
You tell me.
Institutional police mistreatment of survivors who report violence and abuse leaves abusers free to enact violence against us and prevents us from reporting the abuse we experience.
Well, that's somewhat true.
Is it?
I have seen, remember the grooming gang case in, what was it?
Ah, I can't remember the town.
But, like, they got the groomer, they put him in jail, they put him in jail, he got out early, and then he ran into his victims in Asda.
Yeah.
I was like, well...
I don't think that's what they're referring to, though.
No.
But, I mean, that's not technically wrong, you are correct.
Police culture allows officers who are perpetrators of violence to feel invincible, and the survivors of their violence, invisible.
Well, they've charged him.
Yeah, don't know what to tell you.
I mean, maybe when they're like, yeah, well, we were going to charge him, but he was a cop.
The world they live in, what's actually happened here is the police have been like, yeah, I would charge him, but he's a buddy, so he's off scot-free.
Like, no, that's not happened.
They've charged him with murder and kidnap.
This isn't Saddam Hussein's state or anything.
For Christ's sake.
Sarah Everard is not the first woman to lose her life to state violence.
Okay.
Okay.
Boris, why is your policy of the Conservative government state violence against women?
Is that my interest?
Anyway, moving on from the psychotic pamphlets they were putting out, here's the next one, which the anti-police placards abolish the police.
Pigs don't keep us safe.
It's like, really?
Who would you call if you were being attacked in the street, if not the police?
The anti-file death squads, I assume.
I guess so.
Or the counsellors and psychotherapists and things that they're presumably going to get to do.
But we saw the next clip, so we'll skip that.
You know, the F the police, F Priti Patel.
As you can see, it's just stock left-wing activism at this point.
But this, of course, was described as fascism.
Next one, please.
Next one, please.
There we go.
Britain is showing the world how nationalism implodes into fascism, with these women being arrested for breaking the COVID rules.
Nationalism implodes into fascism.
So we left the EU and now we're just like, get the women in the camps.
In London.
Really?
Nationalistic UKIP voting London has imploded into fascism.
Total nonsense.
These people are not serious.
It's exactly the kind of people you're expecting to be arrested, though, as you can see this next photo.
And honestly, if we can get to the next photo, John, there's kind of a magic to this.
Some green and red-haired, dyed-haired, like...
Early to mid-30s millennial student activist who's done nothing with her life, getting arrested by the cops.
Again, she's almost smiling.
This is almost exactly what she wanted.
If they could only put a boot in her face, maybe she'd be a little bit happier.
Just saying.
Every fucking time.
Every time.
But it's such a trope.
It's such a trope of the kind of people who are being arrested.
It's like you're not being oppressed.
You're just a lunatic.
And, of course, there was another woman who was murdered, but this one went under the radar.
If we can go to the final article in this segment.
Not this one, sorry.
Yeah, so this woman was murdered by an Iraqi refugee, apparently.
Where was the energy?
Not of importance.
Not of importance.
This was on the 2nd of March.
Mutilated by an Iraqi refugee.
There is the fair point here that this case is unique, that a cop killed the victim.
But, as I mentioned, there was actually one last year as well in which the cop strangled his victim to death.
He was a woman.
And, again, no care.
I mean...
Just for some reason, this one got all the attention.
But again, it's similar circumstances.
You know, a woman goes missing, which happens to be mutilated by a refugee.
But I guess we don't talk about that one because political correctness.
Not for Muslims.
Not all?
But all men.
But all men.
All men, but not all Muslims.
But anyway, so suddenly everyone is a libertarian.
Because, why not?
And honestly, I'm glad.
I'm glad to see everyone suddenly becoming like, well, hang on a second.
Should we really allow the state to have all of this power over our lives?
We've got to ask the state for permission to protest and they've already said no?
Is that wise?
No, that wasn't wise.
No, that was not wise.
And we have been saying it the whole time.
Like, we've never been in favour of lockdowns.
We think lockdowns are tyrannical.
And finally, everyone else is on our side.
It only took all this.
It only took all of this.
So the Mets had a constructive dialogue with, what was the name of the activist group?
Reclaim the Streets.
Reclaim the Streets, that's right.
And, you know, the Met had, like, a discussion with them, and they were like, well, we're very disappointed, given the many opportunities to engage with the organizers constructively, and the Metropolitan Police have been unwilling to commit to anything.
Well, they committed to the position that you're not allowed, because the COVID rules say no.
And these were things that most of you were arguing for before you had a reason to go out and virtue signal on the streets.
Yeah, I mean, why did they have to go to the High Court to argue to have the right to protest?
I mean, it's absurd.
I mean, who didn't see that this was stupid?
And yet, that's where people got to, and then they're like, hey, this is a bad idea.
People should be free.
Hey, this is a bad idea.
Now it affects me.
You know, that's what this is.
You know, there was no sympathy for the other protests that were being, like for Piers Corbyn when he was getting fined.
No sympathy whatsoever.
They were like, oh, look at that COVID denier.
Look at that anti-vaxxer.
Look at that all...
COVID idiots.
Yeah, COVID idiots.
Yeah, yeah, all this sort of stuff.
But anyway, Chrissy DeDick says that she's very sympathetic, but COVID rules is COVID rules, lad!
You get the boot, you have to understand.
I mean, it's literally, she's just like, you know, I completely understand why you want a vigil, but my global pandemic.
It would be unlawful and unsafe, so find a different way to express yourselves.
Or you get the rainbow-coloured boot.
So the vigil went ahead, a woman got a knee to the neck, and the Met claimed they had to act for people's safety.
We absolutely did not want to be in a position where enforcement action was necessary, but we were placed in a position because of the overriding need to protect people's safety.
There we go, you get what you deserve.
You wanted this.
But why didn't a similar thing happen in Bristol?
That's the question, because obviously Bristol, being a hotbed of insufferable wokeness, they have exactly the same sort of view, and they want a vigil.
And there's a great pairing of the pictures here.
Why is it in Bristol they were allowed to have their vigil, even though they're under lockdown, of course, and why in London was it not?
And it literally, according to Bristol Live, it is because police just refused to enforce COVID rules.
Several people who attended the vigil in Bristol spoke of how peaceful it was, as well as how the police did not disperse or challenge those who gathered.
Yep.
I suppose their argument here is that the police should just ignore the rules when it's our turn.
Yeah.
When it's our turn to have a protest, that's what you ought to do.
I guess so.
Sorry, that's not how this works.
We have the rule of law, and it applies to everyone.
Except when it doesn't, which is in the case of Bristol, when upper middle class white women want to go out and protest something.
So they need to get what they want.
I mean, obviously.
So anyway, the funniest thing about this is watching all of these radical leftists suddenly become libertarian, such as Ian Blackford, that absolute bellend from the SNP. Who suddenly is against state authoritarianism.
Really, Ian?
Okay.
The SNP will vote against the Tory police bill, which imposes disproportionate restrictions on our freedom of expression and right to protest.
The irony!
But I will vote for the SNP speech bill!
Disproportionate restrictions on our freedom of expression.
Oh, really, Ian?
Have you spoken to Hamza Youssef about this, just out of interest?
The irony is just melting my face.
Okay.
It should be withdrawn immediately.
Yes, it should.
As with any other restrictions on freedom of expression, don't you agree, Ian?
You know, my God, I just...
Of course, the answer's no.
It's just when it's Tory bill, it needs to be voted down.
But if it's SMP bill, which restricts freedoms, A-OK. Exactly.
You want this one.
I urge Boris Johnson to listen and scrap the bill as it stands.
Instead of restricting people's rights, the UK government must deliver meaningful action to tackle violence against women.
By curfewing men.
I don't know.
But like, you know, the fact that the SNP are like, well, stop restricting people's rights when that's literally their platform is about restriction of rights.
It's mad.
Dawn Butler, who in her defense, Dawn Butler was never a particularly strong lockdown advocate, but she has come out and said this, and I, again, Comrade Butler, fact, no outside protest has resulted in a spike of COVID-19 infections.
Now that is a fact.
That is absolutely a fact.
Met Police cannot police COVID away.
That's a fact.
She sounds like she's been listening to this podcast.
The government doesn't control diseases.
It controls people.
Thank you for your subscription.
Yes.
Dawn.
Love it.
If you want to come on and talk to us about this, we'd love to have you.
I've said before that Cressida must go.
Yes!
This is exactly what I've been saying.
Christina Dick must go.
We need to be careful who replaced her.
Yeah, exactly.
We must be careful of who replaced her.
Prettiest home sector is deeply worrying.
Yes, exactly.
Maybe Kemi Badendahl could like to become the commissioner.
Let's see how many knees are taken then.
Gaslighting the country every turn.
Yes, I do feel slightly gaslit by the left on this.
Especially with, like, Comrade Sarkar here.
Sack Criteed a dick and scrap the authoritarian protest bill.
Totally agree.
How did you end up getting to that conclusion?
I love it.
As you said, you know, people point out that Keir Starmer had no room to talk on this because, of course, he voted for a bill that allows undercover police officers to rape women.
Don't know why he did that.
Shami Chakrabarti published an article in The Guardian saying, well, hang on a second.
Who still thinks the police need extra powers?
It's like, well, The Guardian.
Incidentally.
Hang on.
I'm trying to remember.
I swear I've seen her arguing for hate speech laws.
Yep.
Like, literally, we need speech codes.
Yep.
But nah, nah.
Now it's happening to women.
Something's got to be done.
And I'm a woman.
Therefore, I could be affected by this.
Until then, this was only going to apply to white people.
Therefore, no care.
Therefore, no care.
She says, of course, under current lockdown rules, the organisers have reclaimed these streets.
Vigil acted impeccably so that, you know, they should have been allowed to carry on.
But no, COVID's rules are COVID rules.
And much of this is no doubt down to austerity.
What?
I think you might be shoehorning in your own concerns there as a left-wing politician.
Don't know what that's got to do about austerity.
You can see their clothes.
They were clearly of the poorest of the country, living in central London.
I don't know what to say.
How else could politicians have voted in support of the Spy Cops Bill?
Good question.
Since the Extinction Rebellion protest took place, the Met Commissioner, Christina Dick, has publicly requested greater police powers to curb peaceful dissent.
Yes, progressive powers.
This is what the progressives have been wanting in London.
And it seems that the far right were the only people saying maybe they shouldn't have this.
And now, as if to crown this dystopian moment, the Home Secretary, Priti Patel, will seek a second reading for the Police Crime Sentencing Courts Bill, which would grant Dick further powers.
Sounds misogynistic, doesn't it?
Granting Dick further powers?
Just saying.
Maybe we do live in a patriarchy, I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe it's all just mean magic.
That Dick is oppressing women in London.
Oh, sorry, don't be the laugh.
No, no, no, it's funny.
But yeah, so obviously we come to her end argument.
The Conservatives seem to have conveniently forgotten that free speech is a two-way street.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
It isn't just for those with the privilege of weekly columns in British newspapers, Callum.
Noisy protesters bearing placards are exercising this same right to free speech.
Comrade Chakrabarty.
What about S posters on the internet?
Yeah.
Callum Dankula.
Yeah.
Come on.
I love it.
I love the left is now like, yeah, free speech, free speech.
Oh, finally.
Finally.
Now that you're being oppressed, you're interested.
Yep.
I mean, I guess I'll take it.
I guess I'll take it.
We'll talk.
My Art Susi tweeted out, where's Boris?
And Boris has obviously made a very tepid statement through a series of aides, so he doesn't have to take any particular responsibility.
It's essentially kidnapping and murder bad.
Well, no, no.
Boris should essentially keep his goddamn mouth shut, because there is absolutely nothing for him to be gained here, right?
Unless he just is silent, because at the moment, he's not responsible for any of this.
You've got the Labour mayor of London, the Labour-supporting lesbian LGBT woke police commissioner, and you have a bunch of left-wing activists who are really, really angry at the police of wokeness.
It's like, okay...
Let them fight.
Like all the chimps are stabbing each other.
Yeah, but Boris doesn't even need to throw any money in.
Just literally be quiet.
All of your enemies are taking chunks out of each other right now.
Just say nothing.
Say nothing.
Don't come out and ruin it.
Let them go.
We've got literally the Guardian arguing for free speech.
Don't say a damn thing.
They might be like, ah, conservative!
As if Boris really is.
Just sit there and make bets on them fighting.
Exactly.
Everything's kind of going great with them doing this.
They may well end up tearing down lockdowns.
They may well end up tearing up legislation that prevents free speech and free expression.
You know, let them carry on.
It'd be the same as if...
I don't know.
No, I'm not going to start making comparisons historically, actually.
I'm going to get in trouble.
But anyway...
Right, so have we got some video comments today?
We do.
So if you would like to send us a video comment, it's for gold members only on the site.
But you can just add one to the webpage and we'll play it out.
But this is a chap who's got a really good camera.
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
After the tragic news of Sarah Everard and the awful stereotyping of men, I think it's striking that men are not being asked about their own lived experiences.
I see women speaking of their fear of the streets, yet most seem to assume that men don't need to act with vigilance also.
I, for one, have always been taught to protect those around me, even at my own expense.
I have learnt martial arts, I carry a weighty keychain, and I always remain conscious of my surroundings.
You should read audiobooks.
Yeah.
It's a great voice.
Yeah.
I mean, it's also an interesting point.
I mean, the lived experience thing is obviously just junk science.
So, like, men and women lived experience, get in the trash.
No one cares.
But the point about, oh, everyone knows a woman who's put keys in her fingers on the way around a dark street.
I mean, I have.
But you walk past a street where you think, ah, this ain't right.
Get the keys ready.
Yeah.
Everyone's done this.
This is not a woman-only thing.
No.
But what I like is that they fail to understand that actually it's the solidarity among men.
Because at night, all men go out and just basically chill.
They go out and have a few beers and they're just like, bro, yeah, you found me women?
No, not yet, but we're on the lookout.
Love the murder culture.
Yeah, exactly.
That's not going on.
Yeah, no.
There is no solidarity among men in the dark on the streets at night.
Don't know why the feminists think there is.
It's kind of weird.
But I would suggest it was to do with their innate bigotry because feminism is about hating men.
Let's go for the next one.
So, I've been wondering one thing.
Listening to a new podcast, you speak about how communist manlets tend to become trannies.
And, yeah, I too can see Owen Jones becoming that.
So, want to make a bet?
What do you think happens first?
Kamala usurping and replacing Biden?
Or Owen Jones becoming a woman?
What do you think happens first?
I think Kamala replaces Biden first.
Yeah, I'm going to go Kamala and Biden first because I don't think Biden's going to last much longer.
The guy has been getting worse and worse, man.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.
Really failing to finish sentences.
What was it?
He was like, that guy over there, and it's like, this guy over there was like, I don't know, the chief of staff or something.
It was like, you don't know who he is?
Joe, like, he's really important to your operation here.
Like, I think, but I mean, that's not to say that it's not going to be long until Owen Jones transitions, and for all of those people in the media who have transitioned, well, I mean, I say go full hog.
The chat is agreeing that it's definitely Kamala.
Yeah, I think it's definitely me.
Did that go off for some reason?
Alright, okay.
Right, so we've got...
Hey guys.
I'm embarrassed to say I'm living in Scotland, a country where being a pedo is now a protected class.
My only solace is I live in Aberdeen.
How many more years do I have to wait for the Terran Federation to be founded?
I don't know.
I mean, I would be...
Depends on the military.
I'd be sat there going, how many more years is it until global warming raises the sea levels and takes this entire island away at this point?
I'm getting rather sad at looking at especially the US military.
I mean, the UK military has been gone for a while.
Getting really woke?
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Like, you were our final hope in case things went wrong.
Like, you're the guys who do the coup when nothing else will work.
I mean, I remember when we went to Poland, we met Janin Korvizmiki, and we were just like, what do we do about Brexit?
Because they just won't do it.
And he was just like, convince some generals.
I don't know.
That sounds like a great idea, but what generals?
Convince them to lead what?
The British Army can't recruit at the moment, apparently.
The numbers are just declining.
Isn't it lower than 80,000 men?
Something like that.
The company they've given it is Capita as well, who suck.
They're the ones who did the campaign of snowflakes.
We need you.
And it's like, no.
No, don't do this.
Yeah.
Didn't work either.
Weird.
Can't believe it.
Anyway, we have a report from our roving reporter on the ground in the occupation zone in Washington, D.C. White Hot Peppers.
Hey, dude.
Good morning, gents.
Daylight savings this weekend, so it threw me off that the podcast was an hour later than normal.
Nothing really exciting happening here other than we are heading home soon, hopefully.
Can't give details of movement for security reasons.
Been teaching my unit the song Kinky Boots to sing on the bus.
Sorry, I'm teaching them a song about Brish Army being gay, but it's so darn catchy.
It's...
Is that wrong?
I didn't think it was a song about us being gay.
I thought it was a song about us being colonizers.
Gay colonizers.
All right.
What's the left going to oppose?
Yeah, suddenly colonization's okay.
Being on this mission has definitely red-pilled most, if not all, the National Guard here, their family and friends.
Everyone is fed up with the government right now.
Makes my libertarian soul sane.
It's been incredible watching poor female that got racially profiled by a congresswoman that always said, as long as I've known her, that she's a feminist, lefty activist, but now she stares in a state where she does not know what or who to believe.
I've told her that I'm always here to talk if she needs it and pointed to your website, of course.
Thank you very much.
Question for you guys.
How do I turn her on to my libertarian way of thinking without scaring her away?
I tend to be a bit intense sometimes.
I want to show her how amazing being a libertarian is.
She's one of those people who vote Dem because her family always has.
She's only 20, so I think she's very unsure of what she believes and who to trust, and she just trusts what her family does.
How do I help her stay away from just following the cult?
Um...
I mean, by the sounds of it, let her interact with the left more.
Yeah, yeah.
Just send her, like, left-wing things, I would say.
I mean, like, the curfew on men thing, I think, is fantastic.
I sent it to my sister's husband, who's the progressive guy, and his response was amazing.
I was like, this isn't acceptable, is he?
I was like, well, I mean, it was just...
It's just some of the House of Lords said it as a joke, didn't it?
So I sent the Mark Drakeford one.
I was like, wow, the Welsh First Minister hasn't said he's not going to rule it out.
It's not his top priority, but he's not ruling it out.
He's like, well, I just think this is divisive cultural nonsense that we should move beyond our cycle, really?
So you're denouncing the woke left then?
Yeah, exactly.
It's divisive cultural nonsense when the left is on the losing side of it.
Otherwise, it's the left promoting divisive cultural nonsense.
And so I just replied to him being, yeah, so if it was the government discussing a curfew on black people, would you feel the same?
He didn't respond.
So...
But, I mean, Pepper's making the point that when your sister-in-arms, I don't know the right term, interacted with that Democratic congressperson who was awful.
Like, that's the thing.
I mean, just interacting with these people, they're awful.
So, I mean, more of that.
And that will radicalise her away from them.
Because, I mean, that's the meme as well.
Like, you know the meme?
What radicalised me?
You did.
The left.
Yeah.
The left being the left is what made me leave them, because they're awful.
Yes.
And it was very well hidden for such a long time.
And then it just burst out like a boil.
All this pus is everywhere.
What I love about it as well, there's the meme of people in a nice room having a nice conversation about political topics.
And then those people bursting in and literally puking and...
My pronouns!
Crapping everywhere.
Like, bigot, racist, my pronouns.
It's like, what the hell?
Who invited these people?
I wanted to talk about economics.
Yeah, exactly.
I just want a normal conversation about things.
George Hap says, What do you guys think would take the society to stop putting female victimhood on a pedestal?
This weaponized gynocentrism combined with women's preference for security over freedom is one of the key factors of how we get these tyrannical regimes.
Well, there is no such thing as getting past gynocentrism in society I've come to the conclusion on.
I think society will always be based around crying women.
I mean, has it always been?
Yes.
So, why would it change?
I don't know.
I mean, the only thing that will change is the solution to this problem.
You could end up with a very woke regime that's like, well, I mean, we need to curfew men, clearly.
Or you could end up with a very anti-woke regime that puts women in burqas and makes sure that women can't go anywhere without a male escort, like in Saudi Arabia.
But they're both solutions to the same problem, which is women's insecurity in society.
This is something I was going to mention earlier, but it's fundamentally the thing about this story that made me think was we've tried two extremes.
We've tried the extreme of women are essentially subhumans and we treat them like they're inferior.
Have we tried that?
No, no.
I mean, like, no right to vote.
You know, you don't have these things.
You can't go into certain jobs.
You know, that's been done in the West.
Yeah.
And we've also tried what we're doing currently, which is, it's exactly the same as men, there's no difference, and therefore no difference in duties or laws or rights or anything.
Neither of these work.
I mean, because they're obviously both extreme and anti-reality.
Like, the reality position is, okay, on a lot of things we can be treated the same, on a lot of things there are biological differences, and that needs to be taken into account.
There's a reason, like...
I don't know how we get there.
You know, if you go to, like, your parents' generation, like, they'd be like, well, you know, if you go out on a date, the man has to walk the woman home.
There's a reason for that kind of chivalry.
It's because women are afraid of what might happen at night, and that gives the man a role to do.
There's a reason to do this, and it's not extreme or irrational.
It's got some reason behind it, and it seems to be a fairly normal traditional social role.
There was a reason for it, and it gives people a place.
It gives them something to do.
But now we can't have that.
Now it has to be, well, men have to be curfewed because apparently they murder women.
The thing is, I mean, what happens when women start murdering women after curfew?
Who do we curfew then?
Well, there was also the point.
The highest percentage of people who are killed per year is zero to one-year-olds in the UK. Yes.
90% of them by women.
Yes.
Because, of course, it's the women looking after their young children.
Can't have a conversation about that.
So the feminist response is to make more men kill their babies.
50% of the population, 50% of the baby murderers.
Jess Phillips, 2024.
What?
But how can they argue against it?
That's their position.
That's the thing.
It is indeed their logic.
Or just prevent women from being associated with their own children.
There's no way to prevent it.
Christine Watkins says, It feels like British leftists need a George Floyd, so they just made one up out of a tragic death of Sarah Everard.
I thought women didn't exist anyway.
It's not 2014.
LAUGHTER Good point.
Then the Met Police actually do their goddamn jobs for once, breaking up protests since we're still in lockdown, and then by the morning the British establishment comes down on like a ton of bricks.
Absolute clown decade.
Yeah, but on the plus side, at this point, it's all woke supremacy.
You know, everyone involved in this is a wokest.
Everyone involved in this is very progressive.
Not a single conservative establishment figure is really being implicated in what happened here.
So let them carry on.
Let them go.
I mean, it's literally the Simpsons meme of the chimps kniving each other, and you're just like, just throw money in.
Fight, fight, fight.
Mike says, Hi, Callum Callum.
Do you not find all the identity grafting around Sarah Everard incredibly worrying?
It feels like the start of the George Floyd Summer of Peace concerns, not based in reality.
Hope you're okay, bros.
Keep up the good work, and please hurry up the brave new world.
Thanks.
I will.
It's on the way.
Yeah, I mean, that's what they're trying to do, and it's interesting how the family and friends have already denounced the identity politicking of it, because obviously...
You would.
You would, yeah.
It's nothing to do with any of this.
What are you doing?
Feminist activists?
I mean, it's so transparently...
See, I was talking to Josh earlier.
Like, we're sort of looking at it where it's like, I don't even...
Do I have to argue against this?
Yeah.
Really?
And yeah, you do, because the mainstream press won't.
The politicians won't.
Like, they're just going along with it.
There is no one calling this out, which sucks.
But everyone normal...
Yeah, Spike's great.
But everyone normal is looking at it like, what are you doing?
Like, no one believes you.
No one believes you're sincere about this in the slightest.
Yeah.
Yeah, where are the pro-murderer counter-protests?
No, he was great.
She was breaking lockdown.
Like, where were the people in support of him?
Like, anti-wem instead.
I don't even know what that looks like.
That oil guy again.
Weekend in the nutshell.
Women, we demand to be treated as men's equals.
A few moments later.
Women, how dare you police us the same as men?
Oh, no, no, no.
That was much lighter touch.
Much lighter touch.
No one got kicked or hammered or anything like that.
Elliot said, I don't doubt that many people feel exactly like that, especially as they are not really allowed to form relationships now, go out and have fun.
So you're trapped in this perpetual cycle of working from the same house in which you spend all of your day, and then them telling you you're bad for being white, and now they're going to tell you you're bad for being a man, and they think that everyone should just carry on like this indefinitely and raise no complaints.
I mean, if living in the pod, eating the bugs, wasn't worth enough.
Yeah, now you're a bad person.
Propaganda 24-7 as well.
Yeah.
Modern world sucks.
It does.
It's really insufferable.
It wasn't like this just 20 years ago.
It wasn't like this.
BraveInstant says, Last summer, we had the racism revolution, now the feminist one.
People have been locked into their homes too long and are filling their vacuous hole in their lives with progressive activism.
It's not even people.
These are just like...
It's activists.
It's communists, yeah, you're right.
They're the same people every year, every summer.
But what I mean is the term people is way too broad.
It implies that there's like grassroots mass support for this.
And what it is, is Twitter activists who have been on Twitter forever.
You can tell the Twitter activists because they have exactly the same slogans and chants and exactly the same cadence as the American activists who are doing the same thing over in America.
This is clearly an American import.
It's done by social media.
It's not based on a real problem.
The statistics don't match it up.
But they want to have something to do.
They need a struggle.
It makes them feel like they're doing something useful.
Because otherwise, what would they feel like?
Depressed.
Well, they want to be on the right side of history.
eggless they want to be remembered because they've got nothing else well yeah what else do they have they're not taking solace in their families are they you know the media are pushing the narrative there's only one type of domestic violence and that is men on women When anyone mentions that a woman could be a perpetrator, they just ignore the comment and pretend that sort of violence doesn't exist.
Well, there's nothing new under the sun.
They've been doing that for years.
Duffy says, this combined with the BLM riots in the past nine months begs the question, what is the end goal of progressives and matters to policing?
In the US, there's been a steady push for more federalized police force, currently through fiscal coercion and accreditation standards.
It seems like the next logical step would be to establish a uniformed enforcement agency akin to the French Gendarmerie, with the worry that the police should not be part of the communities in which they have their jurisdiction.
Yeah, well, I mean, ultimately, I think the progressive view is complete centralization, because they're trying to go for this kind of, you know, great reset sort of thing.
So you don't really want localized police forces that might act independently of the state.
You want them to be an arm of the state.
And that's not good for people who don't like to be oppressed.
I mean, for the Marxists here, they want to get rid of the police, but as we saw in the Soviet Revolution, they got rid of them and then instituted the, what was it, like, defense squads or whatever the hell it was.
It's like, what is this?
It's like, oh, these guys enforce the party's rules.
Right, so they're just policemen for the party.
Well, that just sounds like police with extra steps.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Alice Crowley.
At least we now know the hierarchy within the Rainbow Police.
BLM, run away like babies, don't arrest them even though the police have been severely injured.
Women, stand around, mostly arrested a couple.
Next day, scared by the media, anti-lockdown, anti-illegals.
Oi, mate, where's your freedom license?
Time to crack some skulls and mass arrest.
Yeah, we know exactly the hierarchy now.
I just lost my place, because why not?
Sorry.
Are you up for making an information cordon with America at this point?
Possibly.
How do we enforce it?
I'm pretty sure we could just do what around us.
Or ban Americans from accessing British media.
If it's Yankee leftism, banned.
Need to create a China-style great firewall.
It's a joke, obviously, before someone clips that.
These leftist women are crazy.
One woman being killed by a white policeman.
Oh my god, I don't feel safe.
We have to lock up all men.
Literally millions of kids being raped by people with police helpings.
Silence!
Literally stripping all civil liberties from the whole populace, yells alt-right at protesters.
Yeah, it's insane, isn't it?
I mean, like, again, like, where was this energy when Sarah Champion was like, by the way, I think a million English girls have been raped by these grooming gangs, and it's just crickets.
Absolutely crickets.
The energy and noise was among people like Voldemort, the one I can't name, and they were demonized by the mainstream.
Yes.
So...
Actually, we're okay with that status quo.
You are the bad person, Lord Voldemort.
Deep platform.
Yeah.
Student of History says, Dude, your country sounds like a dystopian nightmare.
It's a shameful period over a millennia of history.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I've recently just been for the fun of it, reading about the Hundred Years' War.
Man, I wish we could just return.
Let's just go back to the 14th century.
When we're BTFOing the French and the Scots and the Spanish and, you know, just dominating everything else.
And no one has to worry about, like, this.
It'd be better for the French as well.
Yeah.
Well, not doing the chevalchets, but, like...
Yeah, but at least they get to feel oppressed and claim something.
Oh, yeah, at least they're being legitimately oppressed.
I mean, you know, not like this.
But that's their natural state, you know?
Yeah.
Also, thanks for being an inspiration to me because I'm thinking of treating myself tomorrow for my 27th birthday to the first annual two weeks to slow the spread celebrations to purchase a laser engraver.
That sounds awesome.
Commies delenda est in defense of corn, not corn syrup, whiskey.
Disavow.
Our man says, or AI man says, all these stupid people make my brain hurt.
I feel like I'm losing IQ points looking at what's going on at the moment.
Has the whole country gone mad or something?
No, just London.
London's gone mad.
London is the epicentre of all this.
All of this is just happening in London.
And then you've got Bristol just looking over going, oh god, I wish we were that stupid.
I bet you do.
I bet you do.
But everyone else in the country is just like, nothing to do with this.
Maybe if everyone else around you believes what they're doing is correct and I seem to be in the minority, perhaps I'm wrong.
Maybe let's just join the narrative, stop questioning and stop thinking.
Thinking is bad, okay?
Yeah, well, I mean, that's the easiest way to allow this to continue forever, is to say nothing.
Pirate Skeleton.
Fascinating how the individualism versus collectivism divide is so apparent in how the leftists are exploiting murder for political gain.
Possibly the same reason that so many of them stay silent when it's a different group accused of systematically abusing young girls.
Yeah, it's genuinely amazing.
Genuinely amazing that not one of these women's groups views the women or the children who have been abused as, like, fellow women.
You know, they're just like, no, nothing.
Just nothing.
You know, just...
It's not politically correct, so...
Well, that's literally it.
Like, with the Iraqi refugee.
You know, mutilated a woman.
Silence.
Got bigger things to worry about.
Yeah.
The guy who's already been charged.
Yeah.
The guy who's been arrested, he's the problem.
Protesters in Parliament Square also need pre-approval of the police before they can be held.
That's correct.
The protest was breaking the law twice.
COVID rules and protest rules.
They should have been arrested en masse.
This is what equality looks like.
Yes, but they are, of course, privileged.
Chris says, Morning folks.
Just going to chime in with some lived experience that everyone loves these days.
I've dealt with the SWAT team before, and I can say they were not gentle with me, a guy, and I was just caught up in the mess, not the target.
Yep.
Again, like the Patsy, the woman who, the actress who was arrested, she went on, I think it was Good Morning Britain or somewhere, she was saying, oh, I've never been so scared in all my life.
It's like, no, we saw the footage of you literally being like, yeah, well, no, let's go protest some more.
It's like, you weren't scared.
You knew you were being...
You've never done anything.
If that's the scariest moment in your life, I'm sorry.
She was clearly being handled with kid gloves.
Jack says, If these women think the police have been brutal, then just wait until the grooming gangs have been turning a blind eye to arrive in their neighbourhood.
Then they'll truly understand what male brutality looks like.
Where's the lie?
It's hard to like this country sometimes.
Yeah, it's insufferable sometimes.
Elliot Percy says, Well, I mean, hopefully this just ends up pushing us out of the lockdown.
I mean, if he could do one good thing, that would be it.
Yeah, that would be it.
But I mean, in the defense of these people, I wouldn't say that this is actually analogous to George Floyd's murder, because I'm not sure that George Floyd is actually murdered.
Sarah Everard, of course, actually seems to have been murdered, so at least there's some legitimacy behind this.
Not from the family against the murderer, yeah, but from the protesters claiming that the entire police force are all men not to blame for this?
Nah.
These people are just out for politics.
Waiting for Ash Sarkar to be fined £10,000 for organising a gathering of above 30 people.
I mean, if it was me, I would be fined.
If it was Pierce Corbin, he would be fined.
Has been.
If it's someone with the protected demographic characteristics, they are not fined.
All right.
John Linder says, Hey guys, I know in the past that you, like myself, have come to the defense of Asians in the face of racism many times the past five or six years.
Like white people, it seemed they'd very much be left out of the ID poll in identity politics game.
But now that the mainstream media has embraced this racism to Asians as bad now movement, I'm nervous about how quickly they will turn it into criticism of China as racist.
Do you anticipate something similar?
They've already done this.
This is something you'll already find from Americans.
Like, oh, well, he's anti-Asian.
It's like anti-communist.
Anti-CCP. Yeah.
But that's...
Anti-genocidal communist party.
This is the thing.
The CCP are smart as well.
They know that they can push this narrative to get sympathy within leftist movements, who are the only people likely to be sympathetic with them in the coming years.
So that's why they're pushing that.
And they will win.
Leftist movements, leftist parties will have way more sympathy with China than any right-wing ones coming up.
Absolutely.
And you see the Chinese state officials on Twitter...
Unlike the rest of their population, saying things like, the West is racist.
That's fascinating.
Thank you.
They don't believe that.
No, of course they don't believe that.
And they don't care.
They don't care about racism at all.
I mean, they're busy conducting an ethnic genocide because of their race.
They're busy literally segregating black people from their McDonald's and things like this.
They don't care about racism, but they know we care about racism.
And they know that it's a weakness for us.
It's a vector they can attack us on.
So it's like, okay, well then, shut the hell up.
Just don't want to hear what a Communist Party member has to say.
Joe Pascal, apparently Parliament will be debating vaccine passport today.
According to the petition against it, hopefully you'll sign it.
Yeah, I mean, they're going to make us.
They're going to make us, if you want to leave the country, have a vaccine and a passport.
Alexander Drake says, You know what might make women safer walking the streets at night?
Letting them own and carry guns.
Since moving to Arizona, where the constitutional carry is law, I carry it on me every time I leave home, and I feel completely safe because of it.
Yes, but that's because you are free people, and we are not.
Britain is not a free country.
Chase Bonesdale says, I showed up an hour early due to daylight savings time, and I blame Carl for not having warned us on Friday that US viewers would be affected.
Um...
This is not an inclusive podcast.
No, it's not.
It's not.
I didn't know.
Robbie Cooper asks about GameStop, but to be honest with you, I don't really have a good answer for it.
I'm confused about your contrasting positions on buyer intellect, landlords, and the hedge fund managers involved in GameStop.
The lines of business are both based on holding contracts of debt obligations, which they expect to yield a profit based on the assumed state of the market in the future.
Due to unforeseen events, they are now unable to meet those obligations.
The underlying owners of the assets are screwed.
Why is the landlord situation described as terrible, but head fund managers lost to be cheered?
Callum?
I'm not giving financial advice.
Are you crazy?
Good point.
Yeah, we only had moral advice.
Down with the hedge fund managers.
Up with the landlords.
I think it's more to do with the state of the markets themselves, right?
Because the landlord produces something tangible.
They have an actual service.
There is an actual thing.
They're not billionaires with massive piles of money that they sink into shares in the process of speculating that they're going to rise.
And extracting that wealth from the market later on.
As in, the landlord is actually providing a practical service.
But the billionaire has driven up the price there, therefore anyone else who also has shares, which plenty of ordinary people and the company themselves have just made money off that.
Sure.
I'm not saying billionaires are evil.
No, no, no, but they are also giving something there.
I know it's not as easy to see.
Yeah, but the thing is, it's all kind of hypothetical, you know?
Whereas the landlord, you can say, well, there's actually a thing.
Brick and mortar.
Yeah, there's some real value there.
And as John's pointed out, the predatory tanking of businesses with shorts versus providing somewhere for people to live, I think there is a qualitative difference there.
Yeah.
uh, Alex Ogle.
It seems strange to me that there's no scrutiny of the media failing to point out a point to the activist elements causing the rupture of the, the problems at the vigil.
I just wonder how long before this comes to Canada.
Well, not long, you know, Twitter is a very, very fast platform, very quick to get information.
Uh, there is a protest today by the two universities in my town, university of Waterloo and Wilfred Laurier, the same one that Lindsay Shepard was in trouble at, Subject of the protest, freedom of academia from a perspective of whiteness, but not somehow white people.
Okay.
Sometimes I think it is only the polite quietness of Canadians that stops everything kicking off, but the Marxist activists and teachers are doing everything they can to legally whip up the masses.
Of course they are, and they will not stop.
They are compelled by their own consciences.
That is true, though.
Let's say, Anglo-Commonwealth countries, whenever you see them do the same leftist protests you see in the US, in the US it does kick off.
I mean, it's probably also because of firearms.
But the politeness you see in British Antifa, for example, it is kind of weird.
It's very unique.
You don't see it on the continent.
No, because they don't have our standards and manners.
But it's because it's obviously foreign as well.
This has obviously come in and it's like, we're really angry with you oppressors.
Okay, but how can I talk to you, D-Chap?
And they're like, well...
Wait, what?
I'm not happy.
They know that there's a demand, a social demand that's made of them when someone is polite to them.
This is why Jacob Reismar could just walk up to them.
And he knew that he was not threatening them with aggression and so anything they would have done would have been totally unjustified, which means they wouldn't Yeah, well, I mean, like, I would say that's ridiculous.
They'll never do anything like that.
But then I never thought that we'd be discussing curfews for men.
So I don't want to make any kind of predictions about what they wouldn't do.
I mean, we have speech codes on the books.
Yeah.
I'm not...
You know, I bet they will.
I bet it will be a requirement for first working in public office that you take some kind of psycho test, and they determine if you're a misogynist, and if you test positive, then you're banned.
Have you ever wolf whistled a little woman?
No, but it'll be like psychologically, you know, some things.
No, no, no, these'll be, you know, things.
Like if you have a wolf whistled at a woman, there'll be a body of things that you will have done, or potentially could have done, that you'll be arsed on or tested for.
And even though all of these things are innocuous, they'll be like, right, okay, you fit the profile of a misogynist.
Yeah, you've scored 40 misogyny points.
Exactly.
Higher.
I'm joking.
I worry that the left will encircle Rome and fail to make the final move, leading to a major defeat for them and their ultimate destruction.
Sicily was the war for communication control, Rome the war for the Republic.
I fear the next step is a big pushback.
I already got what he's saying, though.
I'm just trying to think.
Do I think that?
I'll have a think about that.
Joseph Woodland, how would you feel about the illegalization of any union which isn't based in the UK? I'm all for collective bargaining, but the fact that foreign lobbyist groups have so much power is disturbing.
Well, yeah, I mean, I agree, obviously.
I don't think that foreign unions should be able to lobby our government or companies or anything like that.
It's nothing to do with them.
You know, I used to be pro-union, and then someone asked me a question, which is just name one union that you think has done good, and I was kind of stumped.
The union of the Huffington Post.
They have done good.
They managed to shut down the Huffington Post.
Yes, they did.
Two months?
No, it was a year.
Took them a year.
But one year is pretty good.
If you were like, look, in a year's time, this leftist organisation would be destroyed completely.
I'd invest.
I'd buy some stonk.
Yeah, exactly.
What can we unionise next?
Can we unionise the NHS next?
BBC unions.
No, I'm in favour of unions again.
That's fast.
They ruin leftist organisations.
This is great.
Hannibal Reincarnated says, I have not eaten bread for five years.
Quite difficult to start with, but it gets easier.
I miss pizza, though.
You know, I've been doing omelettes instead of pizzas.
It was effectively like a pizza replacement.
So, obviously, you get two or three eggs, scramble them up, and then put them in a frying pan, and then just put cheese, bacon, mushrooms, whatever on top.
And it's not a bad replacement.
Not a bad replacement.
Could be worse.
Whenever I hear you talking about your keto food, I'm always thinking, like, ersatz food from the German trenches.
Kind of is.
Where it's like, what can I replace with?
Kind of is.
Not going to lie.
But, you know, I feel pretty good.
You know, I feel healthy, happy.
And I'm not eating sugar.
I swear Scott's sugar is just bad for you at this point.
I'm just convinced.
But I'm telling you, man.
You know, you can do some quite fancy omelettes.
I'm quite enjoying them.
It's not a pizza, admittedly, but, you know.
Anyway.
Got to live with that.
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