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Question for the crew.
Dem celebrated shooting at Trump and Charlie's assassination.
Now they are telling military to defy orders.
Is this now something beyond just politics?
No, And I pre, by the way, you're coming from this, you're coming at this from an earnest place.
No, this is by design.
They want some kind of an insurrection.
When they didn't get one, they just said there was an insurrection.
They want to do that because they want to turn you a law-abiding citizen into a criminal, and they want criminals to become a new voter base.
To the left, it is not about just politics.
And for proof, look at Bernie Sanders.
Look at Mamdani.
He says he's a Democrat socialist.
He cited people, I believe.
I don't want to misspeak Mamdani with Marx.
I'm not sure.
I know that Bernie Sanders has said it's beautiful in theory.
I know that people like Hassan Piker have been thrilled to receive Mao's little red book.
Well, look at what that means.
You have to fundamentally alter society, and you have to do it through underhand means.
That's the only way to change it.
That's the only way to break apart the capitalist system and to destroy the bourgeoisie to forward the plight of the proletariat.
This is not by accident.
It's not happenstance.
They want to turn you.
They already see you as the enemy.
They just want to be able to label you that legally.
That's what they've wanted for a very long time.
And I don't say that hyperbolically.
I mean that.
And I've seen it happen in a country where I spent a lot of time in Canada.
When truckers protested peacefully, bank accounts frozen.
Many of you know, some of whom were arrested.
Think about that.
They don't actually care about the First Amendment.
They don't care about your rights.
They want you to be legally declared the enemy.
Next chat.
All right.
Here's a chat for Josh.
Question for Josh from TNT Evans.
My son scored an 83 on ASFABS.
He comes from many military family members.
What branch would be best?
His uncle was a cavalry scout.
Well, that's a hard question.
I don't know anything about this person because, you know, I was Army and I, you know, I'm always biased towards that.
But the real answer is, you know, what is best suited to you or to the person who is his son, he said?
Yes.
Yeah, your son.
You know, all services are great for their own reasons.
I chose the Army because that just made the most sense to me.
I thought about the Marine Corps.
I thought about the Army.
I wanted to do, I didn't know this at the time, but I had the same sentiment as a friend of mine in the Army.
His name is Harryman.
He was a chaplain.
Sorry, he wasn't a chaplain.
He was a pastor in his home state of Kentucky.
And after 9-11, he joined the Army.
And I asked him, I said, I'm curious why you joined the Army and became an infantryman and not a chaplain if you're a man of God and that is your passion is being a pastor.
And he said, well, I joined the Army to do Army things.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, that makes, that's okay.
That's why we're infantrymen.
Right.
Because we want, when we picture joining the army, we picture actually doing the fighting, going to battle and all that.
So if that's something that he's interested in, he wants to be the person that they look to for actual combat, then there's lots of combat arms.
And I would recommend something like the Army or the Marine Corps or if they have multi-talented.
A3 is not a bad score.
If they really are interested in doing some really cool stuff, some special operations stuff, then every service branch has combat operators that do those things and they have different specialties.
The SEALs are amazing what they do.
Not a big fan, personally.
They were mean to me.
Yeah, they were rude to me.
Sorry.
Very rude.
Cut me in the chow line.
At least you didn't shoot them like the Afghans.
I got a joint commendation award from a Navy colonel.
So I'm not too mean.
But no, I would say you got to look at their interests, what they're interested in outside of the military afterwards, because there's lots of different job specialties that you can do afterwards that are really specific to your job in the military.
You want to work on, if you want to work on technology, the Navy or the Air Force might be a great spot for you because they have some of the best aerospace technology in the Air Force and some of the best naval technology in the Navy.
If you want to pull triggers, the Marine Corps of the Army, and I recommend the Army because you do get more choice at the initial spot.
The Marine Corps, you can choose a, somebody in chat could probably correct me, but you can choose a field, I believe, based on your ASVAB score.
So you choose a field and then they kind of assign a job to you based on that field.
In the Army, you get to actually pick your job if you have a high enough ASVAB, which I think 83 is high enough to be able to choose pretty much any job.
There's some jobs that require over 90, maybe like Intel specialists or maybe some kind of technical jobs.
But for most jobs, 83 is going to be able to let you choose.
So, yeah, you get really a lot of choice in the Army.
Marine Corps is also pulling triggers, but less choice.
Was it the ASVABs that you scored like a 94 on?
I scored 94, yeah, out of 99.
Yeah, he won't tell you that.
Wow.
Yeah.
No, Josh.
Nice job, Josh.
Yeah.
And also, yeah, it also opens you up to special operations jobs.
I know that Rangers was like a 90 minimum or something like that.
And I think SEALs have a minimum of like a 60 minimum.
No, just kidding.
No, no, SEALs have a, I think they have a 90.
I was going along with you, like being frustrated.
You can always retake that test, too.
Yeah, but it's all about, you just got to talk it through and really look at all of them and don't just make a rash decision.
Kind of match your interests up with your aptitudes.
Yeah, and think about the future.
You know, a lot of people go in thinking this is what they're going to do, and then they drone warfare.
And then a few of your friends die, and you're like, well, maybe I don't want to do this forever.
Right.
And you're like, well, what does an infantryman do outside?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
I could, okay.
I could pull security at the Kohl's.
Well, I saw a TikTok video, so I guess now I'm just going to defy orders.
Yeah.
You can't tell me to do that.
That one guy, what's this?
The guy we saw the follow-up video.
Chris Murphy.
No, not Chris Murphy.
The one who was wearing the shirt that looked like a drafting shoe.
Jason Crow?
Yeah, Crow, Jason Crow.
He was an officer and was an Army Ranger for the war.
I'm not even sure if he was a Ranger, if he just has a Ranger tab.
It's a very big distinction that most people don't understand.
But when he was making that sedition video, which is what I call it now, when he was making a sedition video, I was just like, dude, every Army Ranger is watching this, laughing at you and calling you a pussy.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, I can imagine.
I just can't imagine that anyone even remotely matched would respect him.
But good advice.
Let's grab another chat.
All right, let's see.
Next chant from that fine fellow.
Have leftists saluted themselves enough with their contradictory obsession with perceived harms, or is it all just manipulation to get votes?
I don't fully understand the question, but it's definitely all just a manipulation.
Sure.
Whatever the first part is, the second part is always this answer.
Yeah, it's not something that can be followed with logical consistency.
And I mean that.
It's truly not.
The fact that you have seen actual Palestine flags next to rainbow flags, it tells you that these people have not thought this through.
And it explains to you why they don't show up to defend their opinions, to defend their positions.
And it also tells you why I don't count, generally speaking, I'm very, very hesitant to count someone amongst our ranks as a conservative if they follow the same tact.
If they throw out and ask questions and accusations and they don't show up to defend it ever, well, we're not the party, the umbrella, the political wing that does that.
We're the ones who've always sort of focused on debate, on arguing our position because we believe in them as stronger.
It doesn't mean, by the way, that you can't be caught flat-footed against someone who has ideas that are worse than you and they're a very, very skilled debater.
But as a general rule, historically, conservatives, and certainly all the way through the 20th century to today, we have been very much championing at the bit to have debates and conversations, and the left avoids them.
You really only see them come out for a debate out of necessity before the general elections.
I mean, we saw one even remotely hostile.
And by that, I mean slight pushback interview with Kamala Harris, and it was Brett Baer, and she absolutely fell apart.
You go back before that, Joe Biden didn't do any, right?
He didn't even have campaign rallies.
He did it from his basement.
This is not how the right operates.
It is how the left operates.
And now there's a contingency on the right who act the same way, which is always concerning to me.
It doesn't mean that you have to debate every single person with a random X in their profile.
We all know what would be considered equal footing, and it's something that I look for.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Snow White Warrior.
Question for the crew.
Are the voting registrations of all the deportees being deleted?
If not, won't they still likely be voting?
That's a good question.
That is a good question, yeah.
I think it depends on municipalities and the states.
We covered a couple of stories where they did purge some voting rolls.
They're just really bad at it like it doesn't matter.
Right.
It's one of those things that's like, oh, this is too hard.
I guess we, this is like one of the foundational things of our country, guys.
Can we get this right, please?
Yeah, it's the same.
They always act like it's such an oppression or an intrusion into your rights.
Like, voter ID, got to have my wallet.
The license, like if I wanted to check out a license, come on.
Ridiculous.
Yeah, but you register every single year.
You should have to rewrite.
I need to bring my ID to vote for the president.
Okay, poll pot.
Yeah, but nobody throwing a fit about TSA charging $18 for people not having a real ID.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
It's just what do you really care about?
I know.
Obviously.
I know.
I know.
And then that was also like the libertarians.
They should never be able to ask for your papers.
That's Nazi Germany.
It's like, well, no, not the whole thing.
The context doesn't matter.
It's why they were asking for papers.
And we get it, search and seizures, but that's not really the same thing as being in a republic.
It's a little different.
Yeah.
And the papers define different things.
Yes.
Yes.
It was a different paper.
It wasn't, let me see your identification proving that you're a German citizen.
It was.
Yeah.
Let me see your ethnic heritage.
Yes.
Let me explain to you the difference between Nazi Germany, the Gestapo, right?
Because they've compared ICE to the Gestapo.
Okay.
So let's just picture this as a wall.
That's what I have.
Okay.
So Nazi Germany, okay?
The Gestapo were making sure that people were not allowed to leave ever, right?
Get back in your ghettos.
In the United States, ICE is taking people here who shouldn't be here legally and sending them back to their country of origin, which, by the way, is just as equal as the United States because all cultures are equal.
I think you're saying killing them.
Right.
No, no, no.
I think you're saying killing them.
No, no.
Or maybe I thought maybe you'd come up with follow-up of like, they're going to put them on a train to go work in a work camp and gas.
They're not putting them to work.
No.
They're stopping them working.
As a matter of fact, they're actually paying for their flights.
And if you don't so bother the Gestapo, sorry, I mean, ICE, if you actually just self-deport and go through the legal process, you actually get $1,000 cash.
Did the Gestapo do that?
Did they give Jewish people $1,000?
Whatever it was called back then.
Right.
No.
They primarily said get back into your human mass huddle or we'll kill you.
Here, they're taking them and sending them back to their family, you know, where they send their money.
Goodbye.
And they speak the language.
Right.
And they're familiar with the culture.
Yeah.
The primary difference, primary difference is keeping people inside versus sending people back.
Like they're allowed to, they should leave.
It's you're not allowed to leave, Gestapo, versus, hey, you need to leave and then be free where you came from.
ICE.
Also, when they tried to escape, and not only did they not get $1,000, they usually got free lead if they tried to escape.
Yes, with a Gestapo.
So hopefully that clarifies it for you.
Next chat.
All right, next chat from Lodge Black.
Question for the crew.
My family has lived in the San Luis Valley, Colorado for three generations, but their first language is Spanish.
How would you respond to people who take issue with the speak English or get out?
Speak English or get out.
Speak English?
Or auto.
That question is a little confusing.
You said primary language.
There's nothing wrong with using a different language than English as your primary language in your house.
If you speak English and you use English where English is necessary, like the grocery store or like, I don't know, the bank or when you vote.
Right, post office.
It doesn't have to be like perfect either.
Yeah, I have no problem with somebody speaking another language in their home.
I have no problem with somebody being proud of their heritage and teaching their kids, hey, you need to speak Spanish because we come from Mexico and that's our heritage and you know how to speak to your grandma.
Bad English.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's all the thing is that's odd is like this wouldn't be a question that would need to be answered.
If that's the context, it was assumed people who came here to this country had to learn a common language.
And I've told you that I've spent some time going to an Orthodox church and the priest there is very nice.
They're Armenian.
They do the service in both Armenian and English, so it's very, very long.
It's actually quite a good example of people who come here who are very, very proud to be American and also preserve their culture as far as food, as far as traditions, but it melds with American culture.
At no point would they feel wronged with the expectation of speaking English.
So maybe you could clarify if you mean it's their primary language or they don't speak English.
There's a big difference.
You come here, you need to speak English.
That's it.
You must speak it to the extent that it can be used as a communication tool in public life.
If not, you shouldn't be here.
Maybe you can clarify with a follow-up.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Mustang GuyO6.
Question for Crowder and the crew.
How can we abolish the IRS so us hardworking Americans don't give up so much hard-earned money?
Oh, get right on that.
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean, we thought that we're going to get the FBI cleaned out.
Yeah.
No, exactly.
You're never going to do it.
No, you're never going to abolish the IRS.
I agree.
People say taxation is theft to a large extent.
I agree, certainly the way that taxation exists right now.
But this idea, and there's nothing wrong with it, I understand in principle.
If you don't allow it to cloud your judgment and make, you know, the perfect is the enemy of the good.
Where if you go, oh, only 1.5 trillion in cuts, this is bullshit rhino.
I get it.
But if you operate under the pretense that we're not going to abolish the IRS when we still have an FBI telling us that crooks had no digital footprint, there's quite a ways to go.
Also, nobody's put forward a very good plan except for the 999 plan that was put forward on like what Community can replace it with essentially because there's a fair tax, there's a flat tax.
It has to be replaced with something that we'll have to pay taxes.
We have to pay for things.
We have to be able to say, hey, we paid for the taxes so we have control over it.
A fair tax would be only a sales tax that would be higher.
It's abolishing the IRS.
It's actually just converting it or getting rid of that current system and putting in a new system.
So that's why I get a little bit like, abolish IRS?
Okay, taxes are theft.
Fine.
You want to see what a world looks like without paying any taxes?
Right.
Okay.
We can do that.
And we've talked about it, by the way.
Well, yeah, you want privatized military, privatized everything, and then you have no leverage.
No protection?
You have no leverage because you can't say as a taxpayer.
As a what?
As a what taxpayer?
Shut up.
You don't pay nothing.
We'll do whatever the hell we want.
Right.
Limited taxation is fine.
I think the crazy taxation that we have right now, I understand.
I think the punitive tax for building wealth is ridiculous.
Yes, no kidding.
I think any tax that punishes people for building wealth, any tax that punishes people for investing.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's a problem.
I love Elon Musk getting crap for the taxes.
And I was like, everybody forgets.
Right.
But most of his wealth is tied up in stock.
They're like, well, that's just how the rich do it.
Okay, well, then go put everything on the line and build a company.
Also, he paid $11 billion in taxes personally in one year, the largest tax bill ever paid.
I don't care what he did the four years prior.
I don't care what he did the 10 years prior.
I actually think, and I know this will never happen, in principle, you should pay a lot, if anything, pay a lower percentage the more you make.
And we should have incentives to invest.
We should have tax incentives and breaks to start businesses.
There should be a break in taxes for every person you employ as opposed to punitive taxes for growth.
There you go.
That's my opinion.
But I'll take a flat tax.
I believe in the flat tax, but I think that there's people more educated and smarter than me that might have a reason why it wouldn't work.
But it's the most fair, I think.
Yeah.
In my simple mind.
Well, Hauser's Law.
I've talked about that.
Look that up.
It doesn't matter what you tax, whether the tax rate is 20% or 90%, you still end up generating the same amount of revenue.
So within a very narrow bank.
Yeah, it's like within 16 to 21%, and it pretty much averages around 18%.
So when our top marginal tax rates were 90%, right, nobody actually paid that versus when they were at their lowest, that still ends up being a remarkably consistent amount of revenue.
As far as income tax, something people didn't take into account is the tariffs generating a ton of revenue.
That's not really something that you feel, though, as Americans.
I understand that.
That's something that would ideally be used to pay off some of our debt.
Yeah, and I'm getting it.
Hopefully.
Yeah, but I don't think that's going to happen.
I mean, the real reason that we're not really concerned with paying off our debt is a lot of it is held by China, and they have more debt per person than we do.
So it's like at a certain point, it's just going to be a Mexican standoff.
Pretty much.
It's like, you owe me.
No, you owe me.
How many IOUs?
I don't know how many IOUs.
I was like, oh, we want to just call it even.
Be a nice little war, and then we'll just wipe the balance.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, guys.
We lost.
We lost the beige books.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Talent Loan from God.
Question for Stephen.
At what point do you think Americans will just say enough is enough and bring back tar and feathering style treatment of politicians?
You know what's funny is it sounds horrifying.
It does.
But when I heard that tar and it wasn't like boiling tar.
See, that makes a difference.
It was more like hairy in home alone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Except, you know, replaced the middle of tar.
Now, I'm not saying that every now and then some boiling tar didn't get in there.
Okay, I'm sure there were some people who had an axe to grind.
Stephen, did you boil this tower?
That tar was a little bit hotter than it needed to be.
I don't know the recipe for microwaving tar.
I might have put it in too long.
But I understand the principle of it.
That bad.
Tar and feathering.
Like, this is the thing.
Humiliation worked to some degree, right?
But that only works if you have a culture that values honor because the idea was that it was dishonoring.
I mean, you know what?
Whipping post?
That was primarily used for men who were found to have been beating their wives.
Also, by the way, if you were found to have been beaten by your wife, you were paraded through town and embarrassed.
That's true.
Because it was like, well, you don't wanna beating you.
It was like, you don't have control over your woman.
But it's like, hey, but if you're beating your wife, we don't respect men who beat the vulnerable.
So, yeah, whipping post comes from that too.
We used that.
Think about stocks, right?
Public execution is obviously much more severe.
But tar and feathering is a way that, hey, it looks like a giant chicken.
You just described three things that already I see every pride parade: people with handcuffs, featherless feathers, and tar and feathers.
What was the other one?
Whipping post.
Yeah, whipping post.
Yeah.
Well, that's pretty much part and parcel.
Sounds like a good time for them.
You'd be hard pressed to find a gay pride parade that doesn't have a whipping post.
Yeah, I know.
It's true.
Or some feathers.
Yeah.
Sometimes you just have a float looking like where they hang the goat in Jurassic Park for the T-Rex.
You're like, ah, I guess the gay escaped.
Oh, no.
Don't eat me.
Then you just see the GHB going final chapter.
Oh, sorry, two chats.
All right.
Well, we have a quick follow-up from Lodge Black.
I'll just give you that.
All my family from my grandparents on learned English.
My aunt is sympathetic because they grew up very poor.
Josh, thank you for your service.
So it sounds like they do, at least knowing they do speak English.
I don't have any problems.
That's what's important.
You got to be able to communicate with the people in this country.
You got to be able to not be a burden.
Right.
I always say, how do you make it better?
Right.
Let's not talk about how you make things worse.
How do you make it better?
How do you not speak English, speaking English?
How does that make it better for anybody else around you?
Right.
You can't give me a reason.
No, it's a very good point.
And by the way, that's how we enter into all relationships.
And at some point in time, people thought that carrying your own weight meant that it wasn't love, like it's transactional.
No, once you're in a, let's just use an example, like relationships.
Once you're in a relationship, of course, it's not entirely transactional.
Of course, you're there to support each other, right?
That's why we say for richer or poor, better or worse.
And if you marry somebody who is the breadwinner and they get into a car accident and they're now disabled, of course you're not going to leave them because they're not able to provide that transaction.
But nobody enters into a relationship, friendship, intimate relationship, or a relationship between nations, unless that relationship makes both parties better.
That's the primary criteria in entering a relationship.
You don't go, hey, if I marry this woman, I'm going to be worse off.
Or if I marry this man, I'm going to be worse off.
It's why women don't marry dead beats.
And it's why men typically don't want to marry caustic women.
Same thing.
You don't go, hey, hold on a second.
Let's start a relationship with a country who brings nothing to the table will only be a net drain.
That's not a thing.
And so that's how we have to start these relationships.
And there's nothing wrong about that.
Then once you're in a relationship, that's where loyalty obviously exists.
But loyalty exists after you get through the interview process.
Put it that way.
When people say, hey, what happened to loyalty?
It's like, well, I'm not your friend.
We haven't decided to be friends.
It would be like some woman you went on one date with, or let's say three dates with.
Where's your loyalty?
Because you answered a phone call from someone else who was nicer.
So what do you mean?
We didn't enter into a relationship.
We had coffee.
Hey, where's your loyalty to me?
It's like, well, you're not my friend.
I'm being loyal to my actual friend.
Like, I play racquetball with you once a month.
This guy's been my best friend since I was 12 years old.
So the left will try and warp loyalty.
And they'll try and warp what a relationship is.
They'll tell women that, you know, there should be no expectations of you.
Otherwise, it's transactional.
They'll tell you that you're supposed to be loyal to all citizens, to all members of the community in Charlotte, even though some literally aren't citizens of this country.
They haven't actually sworn any allegiance to it.
And they're not even loyal enough to you to learn your freaking language.
Right.
When they come asking for something from you.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's the same way we.
When we bring in immigrants, we are engaging in a relationship, contractual.
Okay.
We are allowing you into our community.
You are now in a relationship with the United States and its citizens.
Okay.
So the deciding factor is: will this relationship make us better off than if we were not in this relationship?
And that's another example of the difference beyond just pre-welfare state, post-welfare state.
With immigrants who are coming here, you know, in the early part of the 20th century, that's often what you think.
We were going, hey, will we be better off?
Sure, some of them are poor.
Some of them may not be the brightest right now.
But we have a country that's very sparsely populated.
We need people.
And as long as they come here under the conditions that they need to work, okay, that will be a net gain.
All right.
That's always been the criteria.
What do you bring to the table?
And only then do you procure loyalty, the constitutional rights of an American citizen.
The Constitution is a form of loyalty.
Right.
That's exactly right.
It's a founding father's loyalty to its citizens.
It's a form of loyalty to citizens who also pledge allegiance to said relationship, the flag.
Okay, great.
You're under our umbrella.
Okay.
You're loyal.
We are loyal.
There can be no loyalty if it's one way.
It's not a thing.
Final chat.
All right.
Final chat from Miso Muggy.
Miso Muggy.
How do you talk to a fiancé who avoids politics because she thinks both sides are bad and who tends to shut down and get defensive when I share my right-leaning views?
Josh, thank you for your service.
Thank you, mean your former fiancé.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
I mean, that's a tough one in life advice.
We'd probably end up pretty close to that point if that's a real sticking point that's not going to go away.
No, she might feel uncomfortable.
I'm assuming she shuts down when he talks about conservative leanings.
Maybe she didn't say argued.
It said shut down.
I think maybe she might feel unqualified for the conversation and uncomfortable.
Maybe.
I know people like that.
They don't want to talk politics at all, and they'll be the best friend to you.
They might disagree with you, but they can't articulate their opinions.
They don't necessarily know their opinions.
They don't know all the information.
It doesn't seem like she hates your right-leaning views.
It's just maybe she's uncomfortable being talked at about something she doesn't understand.
Well, she adds the shuts down and gets defensive.
It gets defensive.
I agree with you.
I would agree with you if you were talking about a relationship between two men, like a friendship, because I think men are better at separating.
Like, okay, we're never going to agree on this.
Like me and Gerald and Transformers 4.
Guy can't shut up about it.
Yeah, I know.
It's just, it's all that's.
It's all based on a lie.
Who's better with Shia?
We get it.
Okay, fine.
He's a priest now or something or cleric.
It was a colonel of truth.
But in a relationship, like a relationship that is going to be leading to marriage, a huge component of that, I would imagine, as a man is support.
And so if this is something you're obviously passionate about, this is part of the very fiber of your being, and she takes no interest or gets defensive.
It would be one thing if you got into a relationship.
And this is why I say I don't have all the variables here.
If you got into a relationship and you weren't engaged yet and she didn't really take an interest in politics and she said both sides are bad, and then you spoke about it and she said, well, you know, okay, maybe that'll give me something to think about, right?
Because she hadn't thought about it.
That happens all the time.
Like, you know, you introduce a woman to new movies or new foods and you find her like, oh, oh, wow, okay, you know what?
I like this thing that you brought to the table.
And I'm glad you introduced me to this.
But she knows it's very important to you and it's never not going to be important to you.
And if she gets quiet and or defensive, that to me is partially a signal that she is unwilling to support you in something that if you believe is important to you will become a friction point.
If it didn't matter to you, if it wasn't something that was foundational to you, then okay, fine.
But she is making a judgment, meaning put yourself in her shoes.
This is just my opinion.
She's going, okay, I want to be with this man for the rest of my life.
That's what marriage is.
Okay.
What does that mean?
Well, you know what your role is, your duty as a man.
And thinking from her perspective, my duty is to create peace, love, support for him, right, as a complimentary couple.
Okay.
What are the things he needs support in?
I would imagine the things that get you most impassioned, your foundational views, which are probably going to dictate some of your actions, right?
You'll probably be politically active.
It'll probably include a lot of the content, news that you consume.
And she's going, no, I don't care about it, so I'm not going to take part.
You've now cut out a big chunk of your life that you can't share.
She's making the judgment that I'm not willing to either learn about it enough to understand why you are passionate about it or care about it enough.
But if it really, really matters to you, and I would say this, it's something that's pretty important.
It's not like if it really matters to you and it's pickleball, and she goes, her support is go play pickleball, right?
She doesn't need to take part in that.
But if this really, really matters to you and it is something that is kind of consequential and she has decided that she won't make it matter to her, the reason that she has decided she won't make it matter to her, I think could be a serious friction point.
And I think you should ask her about it.
If this is important to you, again, assuming that, I would bring it up with her and say, hey, look, this is something that you obviously see I'm really passionate about and matters to me a lot.
And I would imagine if you're watching right now in Rumble Premium, you're probably pretty educated on it and you probably could help teach her about it.
Yeah.
Tell her that and say, so why don't you take an interest?
Or why do you go quiet?
What is it about this that you don't want to take part in?
And I would also put the ball in her court.
What do you believe and why?
And are you at least willing to engage in reasoning your position as to what you believe and why and us discussing it?
Because if she's not going to discuss it, if she falls silent and gets defensive, that's a huge chunk of your life that you now have to just cut out and you only share with other people, not your wife.
And that's never a good place, in my opinion, if it's something that is foundational to you.
Were you about to say there's something, a clarifying thing, Noodles?
No, no.
We're just watching the chat to see if they were adding anything else.
I would say not to be compative either.
No.
You know, you love this woman because if she's getting defensive, maybe it's maybe she's misconstruing how you're coming off, you know?
Yeah.
You could be like, you know, beating her over the head with the Bible kind of thing.
So it's like the Constitution.
No, I do think you have to have, and the reason I said it sounds like your former fiancé is like, I just, I think we have to take this more seriously than we do a lot of times.
People think like, oh, well, it's just a political difference.
It's like, well, do you have an economic difference?
Like, do you disagree on economic policy?
Fine, you can deal with that.
No big deal.
Like, you think it should be done this way.
I think it should be done this way.
Whatever.
How do you feel about transing kids?
How do you feel about abortion?
How do you feel about immigration?
How do you feel about public education and how kids, potentially yours in the future, should be educated?
Who has the right to be able to come into your home and take your kids from you, if anybody?
There are a lot of things that really do matter that are going to be sticking issues that you need to talk about now.
And you may find that those issues are issues of agreement.
And thank God because you're engaged.
But if you don't sit down and say, hey, this is a really important conversation for me, am I coming about this the wrong way?
Like, am I approaching this conversation the wrong way?
Do we just disagree on some fundamental issues?
If they are truly big, fundamental issues, not like I like Republicans more than I like Democrats or vice versa, then you have to talk about them.
And I don't think you get equally yoked with somebody who completely disagrees on major, major decisions.
Not every one of these political things is major.
A lot of them are.
And also, I will say this too.
Again, it is different between male and female because there are guys I've known who go, I don't pay attention to politics.
It seems like it's all a rigged game.
I pay my taxes, but I want people to leave me alone.
I want us to be safe.
And I want as long as people aren't hurting anyone else, then it's none of my business.
A lot of guys, that'll be the default position if they're apolitical, right?
A woman who says she's apolitical, the default position is feminism because she's been bombarded with it from birth to today.
It's very, very different.
A woman who says, I don't know, I think both sides are bad.
Then you get into the social issues and the cultural issues.
And if you had to bet your life, absolutely bet your life that she leans left sociologically with feminism.
That's the important thing.
Women think they don't take an interest, but the message has constantly been not just, we're not just talking about women's rights, but you are perfect.
Patriarchy, male privilege, right?
Boss, babe.
There have not been many positive messages out there that have been targeted to women in these last generations.
It's just not a thing.
Now, I would say there have been a lot of negative messages, obviously, targeted towards men.
Men have a different accountability structure where if a man, for example, is conservative, if he is a Christian, that enclave will protect him or they will hold him accountable.
And that's more powerful than the message coming from Hollywood or the media.
We don't see that as much with women.
That's why you see more women in the Christian church voting Democrat than male atheists.
These are statistical realities.
The default position of an apolitical woman is going to be further to the left than the default position of a man.
And I would take that into account and ask her about those issues because you don't want to be blindsided by those once you get to the point of having children and deciding how to raise them.
Have these conversations.
And you know what?
If there's some progress, please do follow up.
I'd be curious to see where they lead.
I realized we went late here for a Friday show.
We're going to see you guys on Monday.
And then we do Monday, Tuesday, and then it's Thanksgiving Go.
next week.
Check out at the store without a line.
We gotta put ice on overtime to make these changes countrywide.
They're all gone from Carolina.
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