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🔴 NYC Shooting Exposes Massive Hypocrisy From Mamdani & the Left 2025-07-29 18:14
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Farm.
Ah, can't take it.
Federal funds are involved.
Sorry.
I'm hoping that they put a stop to this because you know what?
At the end of the day, there's a guy whose family legacy is there.
There's a family whose history is there.
You know what?
I don't need to make the case.
He doesn't need to make the case.
Well, why shouldn't the government take it up?
Because you.
That's why.
That's why.
You don't have to make a case.
By the way, have you seen Newark?
You can just build it there.
It's already.
The guy that's going to live worse.
He lives in New Mexico or something like that.
Yeah.
He rents out the farm.
Doesn't matter to me.
Doesn't matter.
You own it.
Yep.
Sorry.
George.
175 years they've owned it.
By the way, even if he doesn't let it, he was offered far more from other people and said no because this is about preserving something.
Well, what's more important?
Preserving.
Don't care.
Don't care.
It's not yours.
It's that simple.
Done.
It's that simple.
That's more important.
Well, it's my land, my opinion.
That's what matters.
How about that?
Yeah.
Because anyway.
In my house, we play Monopoly.
You get $400 when you land on Go.
Right.
I don't give a fuck how you play it at your house.
Right.
Go back to your house and work on that list again.
Exactly.
Monopoly land.
We can just do that with anything.
Sorry about that.
How are you watching?
Are you watching on a computer?
Are you watching it on TV and are you watching on your phone?
Well, why do you need that phone?
You don't need to make a case to me.
Did you buy it?
Is it legally yours?
I have no right to ask you that question.
None whatsoever.
That's the country we're supposed to live in.
So is there ever a point for armed insurrection?
That's something where there has to be a collective right response.
But are there individual instances where we act like we are so beyond this that we no longer acknowledge human nature?
If someone is coming in to take your stuff by force, why are you a radical if you defend it, if you defend what is rightfully yours with force?
I'm not saying you should, and I'm certainly not saying that you should.
What I'm saying is if this guy did, I would fully understand it, and I wouldn't begrudge him at all.
I wouldn't think it makes him a less moral man an ounce, just to be clear.
So they said this.
I'm hoping the Secretary of Agriculture does something.
We will protect America's farmland.
Kind of hits close to home, actually, after what Gerald went through in our offices just last week.
Music.
So yeah, yeah.
We're going to be up and running maybe next week or so, I think.
Sam, what are you doing?
Oh, hi, Gerald.
We're taking your office, and I'm setting up a ghost kitchen here.
Gonna make some real shekels.
What?
You can't take over my office, Sam.
Apparently, I can.
Billy.
Billy?
What is Billy?
Billy, stop picking up my stuff.
Stop it right now.
Gerald, Gerald, it's going to be part of the ghost kitchen.
What?
Yes, your office is going to be part of the ghost kitchen.
It's for the greater good, Gerald.
You can't take over my office, Sam.
Yes, I can.
What?
Sam, you cannot have my office.
I have to work.
What are you doing?
Hey, thanks for the taster, Sam.
This is great.
Let me know when the kitchen's up.
I'll place an order.
This is great.
Josh?
What, you want me to order something for you too?
It's for the greater good.
I didn't consent.
The ghost kitchen is actually called the greater good.
Yes, it is.
Oh, it is.
It's nice.
Yeah.
It used to be housed in a Chili's, but now it's your office.
Yeah.
Can I get a table in my office for lunch today?
No?
No.
You explained to me the concept of a ghost kitchen.
Oh, I had no idea where it's only for Uber Eats and DoorDash in those places.
Yeah, it's where one restaurant makes something that they've already made before or a new thing, and then they tell you that it's a different restaurant making it when really it's the same guy who's making the bloomin' onions at Outback Steakhouse who's now making your previously frozen chicken tenders.
Yeah.
I have no problem with it.
Greater good.
Greater good.
I hate this.
This is one of those things.
Your constitutional rights are the greater good.
This country was created for the greater good, and we should preserve.
That's what conservatism means.
It means to conserve that greater good.
We looked around us and said, wait, a king?
Wait, taxation without representation?
Wait a second.
Now, this is bad.
We need to create a country where people are free for the greater good.
And now these people want to regress.
Freedom itself, your rights, are the greater good.
And here's where you should be really skeptical.
If someone is telling you about the greater good, you know, trampling on your rights for the greater good, and they can't list for you the duties that every single citizen has in this country, then they don't have a greater good.
They don't believe in any greater good.
They believe in buying votes.
They believe in pandering.
Oh, it's for the greater good.
Okay.
Well, what duty comes with that greater good?
Following the law?
Catch and release.
Cash bail.
What about repeatedly breaking the law?
You know what?
We're just going to allow a revolving door.
Okay.
How about the greater good?
It's their duty to contribute to society.
No, they should be lifelong SNAP and EBT recipients in affordable housing.
So what's the duty of the votes you're procuring through this greater good?
What do they owe?
Anywhere else in the world, in business, by the way, in your relationships, there's some type of a transaction where if something is given or something is taken, there has to be an equal and opposite reaction.
I pay you for this product, goods or services.
I will give this to you benevolently because, hey, you're going to get back on it.
You're a friend of mine.
In this case, only when people like AOC and Mom Dani, they step in and go, hey, it is for the greater good for you to give what you have earned against your will to this person who you do not know, who does not care about you.
And in many cases, harms people like you through frequent breaking of the law.
And we're going to hold them responsible for none of it.
The only person who's held responsible, the only person who's punished is the creator, the contributor, the American worker.
Everyone else gets off scot-free.
That sound like a greater good to you?
Yeah, racist.
I don't care.
Two things about the greater good.
The greater good means something bad is happening.
Right.
Nothing good happens for the greater good.
Right.
You don't say that phrase.
Right.
Everyone's getting ice cream.
Why?
Yeah, for the greater good of.
No.
It's like, why are you asking why?
Did you take the phrase?
No, it inherently means something bad is happening for the greater good.
Yeah.
And bad is happening to a minority for the majority.
Right.
That's what it means.
Second thing, that is very communist.
Yes.
Yes.
It's a very communist concept, the greater good.
Yeah.
I know you made a whole point about America being finally the greater good.
It's a very communist thing to me.
Yeah.
China loves the greater good.
Of course.
North Korea loves the greater good.
Russia loves the greater good.
They love the greater good.
That is their excuse for everything they do.
We seize this for the greater good.
We oppress you for the greater good.
We take your guns for the greater good.
You're not allowed to say what you want for the greater good of everybody else.
It's a very communist idea, in my opinion.
Yeah.
Who was it who said, was it Adams who said, mercy for the guilty is an act of evil against the innocent?
I don't remember who said it, but there's a famous quote.
I like that.
Who was it who said that?
Looking right now, but Madison, mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent, Adam Smith.
Okay, it was Adam Smith.
Right.
It was Adam Smith.
Man who basically created the idea of supply-side economics, right?
The invisible hand that determines markets.
And if you read Hayek, or sorry, if you read Keynes or if you read, you need to read Adam Smith because it's actually logical.
It actually makes sense.
Yeah, the greater good.
The greater good is bad.
Right.
Yeah.
It's an excuse to do something bad.
Yep.
What is a township?
Like, this is a small town.
Let's not act like the people that are doing this are like, you know, road scholars that have explored every possible option and they're the best and brightest and they're absolutely going to protect your rights up until the point where they can't.
That's not even what's happening.
I wouldn't support it if it even was.
I'm just saying, you have to understand they're not the best and brightest typically on these councils in these townships or these cities, wherever they happen to be.
And by the way, George the Greek, do me a favor, look it up.
Does Imminent Domain, if they come in and take your land, do they also have to buy your business?
Because that goes away too.
There's a business being- Okay, well, now I can't.
And he's renting it.
I can't do it because now the land is worth far less because there's probably going to be more trash being thrown over there because you have people there instead of just warehouses on the other side over there.
So my business suffers greatly from this.
Am I able to keep it?
I don't know.
Maybe not.
Do you have to buy the business?
Do you have to pay three or five X what the business makes every year?
Like I would have to pay if I went and bought a business as well.
I don't think they have to because the guy rents, he rents the land to a farmer.
So technically it's not a lot of money.
For the next five years as well as the price of the land because you took away future revenue.
Well, when they forgave rent, they didn't forgive mortgages.
So I don't think that would work.
No, that wouldn't work.
I do want to go to Hokul because again, you should talk about the greater good.
But here's what I believe.
I believe that public housing should be as Spartan and bare bones as humanly possible with a time limit when people say, we need to do a better job reforming as opposed to punishing in prison.
I believe that prisons should be as uncomfortable as fucking possible.
Prisons should be uncomfortable and public housing, if we even have it, should be as Spartan and as temporary as possible as a matter of policy.
Because otherwise you're committing an act of evil against the innocent.
Let's watch Kathy Hokel.
I guarantee you talking about guns coming into the state, the city.
...destruction that was used to destroy lives in my city.
That's what we have to go after.
Governor, the shooting comes as you're pressing your own.
Can you rewind it?
Can you rewind it like 20, 30 seconds?
Because that was a real-time call that she said weapons of mass destruction, right, being used to a man just make sure she's like, yeah, don't go DeLorean all the way back.
What?
They were slaughtered, gunned down, with the same kind of weapon.
We sprung into action to make sure that the laws were tougher and tighter.
And we're doing much more to keep people safe in the state of New York.
But I don't want to be having my residents affected by someone coming from another state who could easily get their hands on this assault weapon, travel across multiple states, and do what they did just yesterday.
So I want to be able to protect New Yorkers.
It's my number one priority.
And it's hard to do it when other states aren't stepping up.
And certainly Congress has let us down.
And government people who would push it.
Otherwise you have to look at her crime policy.
...semiotic weapons, which you're calling for now, would say that there needs to be amped up security, physical security in some of these buildings.
Here in what happened yesterday.
Did he just say she's calling for banning semi-automatic weapons?
There's sufficient security inside that building.
Alright.
There was very much security in that building.
To have a company hire an off-duty police officer, I don't know how you get more secure than that.
And all the systems they had in place and the training they had in place.
I'm still learning more about what those systems were.
I've been in that building, and it takes an awful lot to be able to get upstairs.
But how you stop somebody intent on murdering the first person they encounter who's a police officer and trying to stop them, that's almost impossible.
So for people who are blaming the security system are looking at the wrong culprit here.
Who's the right culprit?
Weapon of mass destruction that is used to destroy lives in my city.
That's what we have to go after.
A weapon of mass destruction isn't 30 rounds.
Republican Congressman Malice Stephanie.
That's what we need to look at.
Not soft-on crime, not catch-and-release, not cash bail where anyone can go back in the streets, not people who've committed one, two, 25 violent crimes and done no time in prison.
None of that.
We need to look at the guns that, by the way, aren't even allowed in our state yet.
And by that, we mean we need a national policy that bans semi-automatic weapons.
And semi-automatic weapons, that just means you pull the trigger and it goes bang.
Pretty much all weapons outside of pump shot guns, lever actions, and revolvers through mechanical technicality.
Let's continue and listen to this bitch.
That's about as pathetic as it gets.
I mean, seriously, going after an unelected official who said something back in 2020 when many people...
I mean, come on.
I thought he was.
Give me a break.
Ask her the question.
That was the mission.
Do you mean like going after Donald Trump's statements from over a decade before he was president when he was a celebrity?
Do you mean like that?
I thought Mom Dani was a representative in the state.
You don't mind her city council or something like that.
Oh, I love a woman telling people to have a spine, BMS.
Shut up.
Kathy.
It's actually pretty useful instead of just complaining about it.
Talk about courage.
I don't talk about tweets.
I don't do tweets on this.
I just disarm law-abiding citizens.
I bet we could, in less than five minutes, I bet we could find at least five times where she talked about someone's tweets.
Yeah, of course.
That's what my job is.
The governor is supposed to save her constituents, and I'm doing that every day with these tough laws.
I'm going to continue.
One murder, one slaughter of an individual is too many.
$2.6 billion.
Now, do illegal immigration.
No governor in the history of New York has invested more money and resources for our local law enforcement to stop crimes that our crime rates are dropping dramatically.
$2.6 billion.
That's what I call funding the police.
So stop deflecting.
So she was quoting Zoram Mamdani, just to be clear to our audience here.
Are you endorsing him in the race for mayor?
No, and listen, why are we talking about this today?
There are families that are grieving.
I'm sorry.
Because it's relevant.
Because it's relevant.
Because there's an election coming up.
It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Hey, you want to talk?
I came in from another state.
This may surprise you.
Maybe it's changed recently.
Do you know where the most relaxed gun laws are in the country?
The skip and a hop.
Vermont.
Vermont.
You need no permit to conceal or open carry.
Mission control you can.
At least it was that way up until the late 20 teens.
Any document, maybe, founding document, to maybe make the case that we should just be able to do that?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, it's the founding document.
Why don't they have the same...
Okay, okay.
So then what's your argument still?
Guns, weapons of mass destruction, as you refer to them, which are basic handguns, by the way.
If you go to the gun store, any handgun that you pick up that is not a revolver is a semi-automatic weapon.
You guys understand this, right?
They use this to confuse you so you think machine gun.
But they know exactly what they're saying.
Of course, these people do.
You'll see some talking heads on the right go, ah, they don't even know what it is.
Semi-automatic.
They know exactly what it is.
Right.
Yeah.
They use this language because they know you're going to think, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, we got to ban dangerous semi-automatic weapons.
Yeah.
What?
That's all of them?
And this is their single biggest losing issue because it's this easy to refute.
Take someone in your family or your circle of friends who has never fired a gun, take them to the range, show them how to operate a gun, and then take them to purchase one.
Gift them a gun.
They'll see the background check.
They'll now know what a semi-automatic weapon is.
And they will know that these people are full of shit.
To dispel the myths that are being thrust upon the American public from the left as it relates to gun issues, gun control.
All that is required is for someone to ever handle and purchase a firearm legally in this country.
I've seen people do that, go through that, and then never believe anything that the left says again.
Because they've gone, wait a second, how are they saying there are no background check?
It took me like an hour to fill.
I go, yeah, yeah, I know.
Like I had to check non-Hispanic twice.
I'm like, I know.
It's kind of racist, but they have to be thorough.
Are you sure you're not Hispanic?
Yeah, are you sure?
Are you really sure?
I said before that I was.
I also, I mean, we've talked about the crime part.
Like, obviously, people aren't going to follow the laws because criminals typically don't follow the law.
But am I to understand her correctly that she is advocating that New York can set gun policy for every other state in the United States?
And not only that, because you've got to go to where every border is because that's how it can come in.
I mean, I'll give you the oceans.
Maybe it's too hard.
It's not.
You also get to tell Canada what kind of gun laws they can have.
And then we have to go down to Mexico, but it doesn't stop there because Mexico has a border as well.
And if something gets into Mexico, it can get in the United States.
Do you see how stupid that is?
Do you see how absolutely crazy it is to blame other states for having different gun laws?
And that's why a crime was committed in your state and to focus on that?
You're an idiot.
You want your citizens to be protected?
Make sure that they can have firearms.
Not just the ultra wealthy that have political connections in New York and can hire private security or maybe procure one of those, I don't know, one of the gazillion gun licenses that you give out to people.
Let them defend themselves and they'll be much safer.
That woman, I want to hear her story, walking out of the elevator.
And that gunman is right there and he lets her walk by.
What if she had a gun in her purse and could have pulled it out as she walked by, back of the head, saves a couple of lives?
What about that?
Why are we talking about that?
Do you see the lead up to this thing?
This guy getting into the building, how far he had to walk across that pavement to get into the building?
What if five citizens saw that this guy had a gun and maybe one of them had a gun and could go up and at least inspect the situation and be like, hey, what are you doing?
And has his gun drawn.
Yep.
Why not that?
Maybe the police officer then would have been alerted in time and not be dead.
Right.
Maybe this could have worked out differently, but you don't want to talk about that.
You just want to say that everybody in the rest of the country can't have guns.
Let me ask, because I know there are some people, and I know that you watching right now, you may be sort of a centrist or new to this.
Let me ask you this.
Let's say, okay, so New York City, right now, effectively, you can't have guns in New York City.
Okay.
I want you to put yourself in the shoes of a criminal, New York City, someone who makes their living off of crime.
Armed robbery, whatever is mugging.
Okay.
So today, New York City, the gun laws exist as they are in reality.
All right.
And then tomorrow, you know the law goes into effect where New York City is now going to follow the same exact gun laws as Texas.
Okay?
You're a criminal.
You've made your living off of armed robbery, off of home invasions, okay?
Mugging people.
Tomorrow, you now know that any citizen for the first time in New York City can own in their apartment, in their townhouse, a gun of their choice like Texas or carry.
Think that would change your behavior?
Might change your address.
Might change your zip code.
Yeah.
Probably going to look for another sanctuary city.
Yeah.
Another gun-free zone.
Maybe go to Chicago.
Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles.
Well, gosh, Los Angeles.
There's a lot of guns.
And everyone knows it.
Everyone knows it.
It's just so silly.
Here's the thing, by the way, and I've said this many times.
You know what the best thing is you can have in your house for home protection?
It's not an alarm system.
It's a good dog.
It's a good big dog.
And have an alarm system?
Yeah.
Yeah, good boy.
And have an alarm system as well.
But when you leave your house, well, you go somewhere where you can't have it.
You need to be able to protect yourself.
And I'm so tired.
Remember Sean Penn?
These people said, like, oh, these cowardly killing machines.
Oh, so I guess every woman is a coward?
Because if a woman doesn't have a gun and a rapist chooses her, she's getting raped.
Yeah.
I hate that argument.
Well, you know, the man you can't fight.
I don't care.
Yeah.
No, you're going to come after me.
Yeah, maybe I am.
Maybe I am going to lose the fight.
Maybe I'm not such a tough guy, and you're going to win the fight, and I'm going to be knocked on couches.
And I don't know what's going to happen to me.
Absolutely 100%.
I don't care if you call me a coward, you're dead.
I don't care.
Yep.
I don't care.
I'll be a coward who's alive.
Yep.
Hey, you want to call the man a coward?
Stupid argument.
Hey, what up?
Did we call the World War II veterans when they were in their 80s and 90s and 100s who had firearms?
Like, coward?
Yeah, you're not a man.
Oh, it's just such a silly coward.
I'm a coward because I've been to war and I've used, unlike Tim Walls, I've used weapons of war.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, I'm a coward because I know how it works.
It's just so silly and tiresome.
But the good news is there is something you can do.
And by the way, you guys know that we've been sponsored by Walther for a very long time here.
If you're going semi-that is what I recommend.
Let me just give you some.
Walther, highly recommend it.
Their PDPF is probably the best balance of their guns there.
If you want something for home defense to carry, they have smaller ones that are great for concealed carry.
They have bigger ones that are easier for home defense.
But if you're not a gun person, and you've heard me say this for a very long time and Walther never had a problem with it, if you are not a gun person at all, if you don't want to spend a lot of time at the range, but you should train yourself up with it, you don't really want to have to take your gun, get yourself a good, reliable revolver.
You have to deal with the idea that you're going to be limited in capacity and carry it, put it in your bedside, your nightstand.
If you keep it relatively clean and you don't screw around with it, 40 years from now, you take it out of that drawer, it'll go bang.
Get yourself a revolver, a 38 special.
They're doing great things now with 32 H ⁇ R Magnum.
If you want lower recoil, I don't care if it's a 22.
It's not what I recommend.
It's still better than nothing.
So I recommend, Walter, or just get yourself a revolver or a shotgun if it's for home defense.
But I would also recommend you get something you can carry.
Get yourself a simple medium frame revolver.
Your bases are covered.
It goes bang when you pull the trigger.
If you have an ammunition malfunction where sometimes you get a bad round with a revolver, you pull the trigger again.
There's no drill to do.
Just pull, pull, bang, bang, bang.
That's not me saying that revolvers are, just to be clear, I'm just saying for people out there who aren't gun enthusiasts, I want you to carry something.
And they look cool.
Revolvers look cool.
There's something cool about steel.
That's not even arguable.
That's objective.
It's steel and wood.
Get yourself a revolver.
Get a wood handle with a nice ivory plating.
Yeah, yeah.
Plus you can hit someone with it if you run out.
Oh, yeah.
You can shoot somebody point blank.
Yeah.
Don't worry about the slide.
There is something to be said, too, for a revolver.
Look, we're not going to be doing the bad movie lines with that.
No, right.
But there is something to be said for a revolver, too, is, you know, if you're in a point-blank situation, someone can grab your semi-auto grab, and now your gun doesn't work, right?
They're now grabbing that slide.
Okay?
One shot is fired, that's no longer going to go into, right?
I think the term is out of battery.
You're not going to be able to use that.
Revolver, you could literally have, if it's the right revolver, in your coat pocket, pull a little kojak.
Blam, blam, blam.
They don't even have to see the thing.
Point-blank range in their belly if someone is up on you gang beating you with a revolver.
It always works.
There are exceptions.
It's known as the problem solver.
Yes.
And as far as reliability and just ease of shooting the Walter or something, they're very, very easy.
I highly recommend them.
Let's grab a, unless there's something I missed.
Let's grab this Dave Weigel.
I hope that guy gets swirlied after this.
Let's watch take some chats.
Talk about interest rates.
The lighting here makes it look like he has a Hitler mustache.
Yes, it does.
They're coming back, apparently.
It looks like he stopped on the way into CNN at goodwill to get a suit because he forgot.
Yeah, look at his ties all crooked.
The knot's not very good.
Look at it.
It looks like a Hitler stash.
Yeah.
And the hair doesn't go.
It's a digest.
I think his face is so big that the mustache looks smaller.
I had to sit next to him at a media research center.
Was it Bozell who used to do that?
At a media research dinner banquet.
And he was sitting next to me, and I had to act like I didn't just want to slap him.
This is the guy that helped me with Verizon customer service.
Did he?
He's not that helpful.
No, that's why I left Verizon.
Yeah, it's Indian Jimmy Neutron.
Let's grab.
Punjabi Neutron.
Punjabi Neutron.
All right.
Let's grab some chats.
All right.
First chat, since we're on the gun subject from Red Gen 26.
What is the most fun thing that you shot with your gun when training?
Thank you for your service, Josh.
Gosh, fun thing.
I will tell you this.
Talk a target or a weapon?
Well, we shot Tannerite to blow up the UG Black.
Josh.
Or person.
I said target.
Tannerite is fun, but I will say this.
There is something really satisfying of getting, of shaking up bottles.
We used to at the range of Fanta in them and watching them.
That's kind of fun.
And it's not that expensive.
Like if you just buy them in bulk and it's not.
I would shoot them and then they wouldn't do anything.
And I was like, oh, it must be one of those Phanta bottles that doesn't do anything.
And then I found out I missed.
Didn't even move.
Plus, I just keep shooting at it.
It's like nothing happens.
Plus, you do get to, to some degree, see the different effect of calibers.
It's not like an FBI ballistics gelatin test, but you can tell the difference.
Like if you shoot it with 22 and you see like the, you know, it springs a leak versus you hit it with, you know, a 223 and hydrostatic shock.
So it's fun.
What's the funnest thing you've shot aside from terrorists?
Other than humans?
The funnest weapon I ever shot was a Mark 19 automatic grenade launcher.
Ooh.
That sounds fun.
It's the best.
Yeah.
It's the absolute best.
I did not shoot it in combat.
We were actually not allowed by the time that I was doing mounted operation in my third deployment.
We were in Kandahar City.
We weren't allowed to mount Mark 19s in the city.
Why not?
Rules of engagement.
Oh, come on.
That sounds like.
President Barack Obama, thank you very much for hindering your soldiers.
We weren't allowed to mount 50 cals or Mark 19s to make you stand in single-file line too and wait for them to do.
Go ahead and shoulder to shoulder.
Show the All the Axe in Free!
No, we weren't allowed to mount.
This was back in 2012, I believe.
Yeah, we weren't allowed to mount Mark 19s.
But it was a very cool gun to shoot.
Very fun gun to shoot.
Favorite Target?
I have to go back to, I don't know, I think it's either Tannerite or just the experience.
There's one experience where I was doing, I'll do the Tannerite way.
The Tannerite one was a lot of fun.
We put it in a bunch of different things.
My friend owns a property up in Oklahoma and I was doing some shows with TJ Miller.
I was opening for TJ and this guy, Marty, invited us over to his property.
He says, I got every gun.
And he does.
He has every gun.
So he was like, come on out.
I got Tannerite.
We'll have a good time.
So a few comics, TJ come out.
We're shooting guns and we're having a lot of fun.
And I start noticing that the other people, I'm having too much fun is what happened.
And I'm like, I got to leave.
I don't have too much fun.
I got to leave.
I got to leave some.
He only has a limited amount of tannerite.
I got to leave this for the other guys.
Let them have fun, man.
We're all out here.
I don't need to just come up here and start blasting everything.
And so I just kind of take it easy for a minute, not shooting anything.
And then TJ is like, hey, you're going to, we're not having fun.
I'm like, no, I'm just going to let other people.
He goes, oh, okay, okay.
And so one comic, he's got a, there's one more thing left.
To blow up.
It's, yeah, it's a microwave.
Nice.
And it's filled with tannerite and melon.
So there's like, not whole melons, like fruit salads.
So that's it's filled in the microwave.
And he's got this scope.
It's maybe 150 yards.
Okay.
Maybe 200.
I don't think it was 200.
Maybe 200.
All right.
He's got this little scope on it.
He's trying to figure out how to adjust his windage on it.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
Slowly, just not getting it.
We're all just waiting.
And then TJ goes, I go, all right.
So I went over to the truck bed, just grabbed the DR real quick, iron sights.
Boom.
Yeah.
And he goes, I was trying to get that.
And I was like, sorry, dude, you're taking too long.
Yeah, I tried to be a gentleman.
As far as most fun to shoot, target, but as far as most fun to shoot, I will tell you, like, and I've shot, I've been fortunate enough to shoot, you know, automatic machine gun stuff like that, and some pretty heavy-duty sniper rifles, you know, that can go up to God knows how far.
I still will tell you, the stuff that I just, I do enjoy like iron sights as opposed to a red dot and, you know, hitting cans or hitting bottles.
I just, I just enjoy it more.
I like the idea of being able to grab a gun that I will very likely use should the situation arise, going and using it in a way that's sort of meditative, precise.
And I've always really liked firing revolvers or something about that.
That's probably because it's the first thing I ever shot.
So shooting, you know, some cans off of, you know, whatever, back at the, if I had enough land off a fence post or whatever it is.
It's just, it's just fun for me.
I'm not really going to do all the tactical stuff.
I want to shoot a gun.
You ever shoot a crossbow?
No, I've never.
I've shot one once.
I was not good at it.
No?
No, I was pretty embarrassed because I fancy myself pretty good with a shot.
Yeah.
Not good at all.
I had a compound bow that got lost in a move, but that was a lot of fun too.
Yeah.
So it is fun.
It is a fun activity.
Like there's a reason.
Guns are cool.
Yeah.
What do you think?
What's your favorite thing to shoot?
Also, I found an old Colt Woodsman in an attic that I have that is worth a lot of money.
And it's a fixed barrel 22, and I was able to shoot cans at 100 yards.
And I will say, the lever action, iron sights.
I just went recently and I did hit, I mean, I hit the steel plate at 183 yards, which is about as much as you can ask for for an iron sight lever.
And I retired on top.
I'm like, that's it.
I'm not shooting anything.
There you go.
That was really nice.
I actually, the Benelli shotgun that you have.
Oh, that's fun to shoot.
That's just a lot of fun to shoot.
It is a lot of fun to shoot.
Gotta be.
Somebody needs some killing.
Next chat.
All right.
Let's see.
Next chat.
Well, on the gun, we'll keep going.
Rumble Forskin asks, do you think defending yourself with a small caliber round like a 22 brings additional grievous heart charges, like firing into a crowd would, given the low likelihood of being fatal?
What's a grievous heart charge?
Is that a thing?
I guess.
I think it's like feeling, they're saying, you know, a grieving heart for the victim.
The perpetrator now becomes the victim.
I think it depends on what state you're in.
Yeah, I think what depends on the jury, too.
So that's always why I say, too, like, you do want to have a gun that you can defend in front of a jury.
So 22 is less likely, but not that much less likely to kill somebody, to be clear.
It is less likely to stop them to a significant degree with one shot in the moment, meaning there isn't the same central nervous system shock or blood loss, but you can pierce an organ.
They can die in the hospital hours later.
Your defensive firearm should be used with the purpose of stopping the threat.
And so I still think, here's a problem.
So if that's a 22, but it's what you fire, it's the only thing you fire, well, then I would say carry a 22, but you're going to likely have to use more shots.
And so then you get into the argument, is it better to shoot someone with one 357 Magnum or 145 ACP?
Or is a jury going to look at eight, 10 shots like the finale to Gran Torino and think, why'd you have to fire so many?
Because they don't know anything about guns.
They won't stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We will say that the good thing about a 22, at least with a pistol, is that you can get a magazine in 30 rounds in a pistol.
So that's good.
Yeah, more opportunities.
Yeah.
22 Magnum isn't all that bad.
It is a fun gun.
I will say that.
There are handguns that are 22 that are really fun to shoot because they do have a 25, 30 round magazine capacity.
And if you're going to go to the range and just have some fun, it's so much fun.
And there's the recoils, nothing on the magnetic magnet.
It's just so fun.
You feel like John Wick or something.
Yeah.
It's cool.
It is.
And there's something to be said for that, too, where people are like, I want the biggest caliber, but then they're like, and they can't control it.
Get the largest caliber that you can.
A big reason we went with 45 ACP with the 1911 in the military is because, again, with the military, NATO requires that we use full metal jackets, right?
You're not allowed to use hollow points, expanding rounds.
Where when you use a 9mm, it's pretty smaller, medium-sized caliber, it's pretty comparable because they expand.
But when all you can do is poke a hole, well, 45 is better than a 9mm, which what's the exact measurement?
It's like 0.35, pretty damn close to 38 special and 357 magnum.
So that was a logic behind going to the 45 ACP because it was just punching a hole.
Now you have, you know, these expanding bullets that are, ammunition has come such a long way that are far more effective.
So you don't necessarily need a huge, crazy caliber.
And honestly, I don't really know that it makes that big of a difference until you get to legitimate magnum speed.
So carry what you can.
Worry about that when you get there.
For example, revolvers had that Hillary hole, the Hillary lock that Smith and Wesson put in there, which some people said would just be enabled and their gun was basically locked and became a brick.
Now Smith and Wesson is doing away with them.
But it's very easy to disable and fill in that little lock hole.
But you have lawyers who say you'll be before a jury and they go, and wasn't there a safety mechanism that you disabled?
It's literally a lock that requires one key that you go in and say, okay, revolver can work, revolver can never work.
Everyone threw it out.
And everyone hoped that they never had a malfunction with it.
But you get a lawyer, you get a lawyer who hates guns.
Guess what?
They're going to, why'd you have to fire eight rounds?
Because it was a 22 and he was an O-lineman.
Why did he stick into my house in the middle of the night while I was asleep?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe they lose their right to live.
I don't care how many shots it takes.
Yeah.
No, that's absolutely.
But shoot whatever it is that you shoot well.
I'd rather you carry a 22 than carry nothing.
Next chat.
All right.
You brought up lawyers.
So old man Toby asks.
Oh, boy.
Question for the crew.
Why does it seem that every female lawyer, police chief, seems to be against us citizens and our rights?
You noticed.
This is one thing is like people go like, if women ran the world, there'd be no wars.
Oh, boy.
You know, we've had female leaders at different periods of time throughout history, and it actually got more violent.
Like a big reason, we're like, we're going back to.
Deopatra, Catherine the Great.
Yeah, they're like, we're going back to kings on account of the fact that you women are too fucking mean.
Like, we can't do this anymore.
So this idea that it's going to be more stable and less volatile.
Look, it's okay.
And I had a relative like this.
When we talk about bad cops, right?
Bad cops that exist are people in positions of authority.
It's very often someone who abuses the badge, who abuses their authority.
And let me ask you this.
Do you think the person more likely to abuse that authority is someone who has lived their life, let's say, as an athlete, as a successful business person, as someone who has had to wield a respectable authority over people throughout their life and now has said, okay, I'm going to serve my fellow citizen, whether it's in war, whether it's part of the local police.
Do you think they're more likely to abuse that authority or the person who is a tiny worm who was bullied their whole life and the only way out for them was a gun and a badge?
Right?
Little Napoleon, Napoleon complex.
You've heard of that?
Now imagine you lived your entire life where really all of human history, where you have been beholden to the only people who can enforce rights, because you only have rights if you can enforce them, right?
Men.
And now you get to wield that authority over them, which throughout human history would occur nowhere else in the natural order.
Like it's not natural for a man to go, hey, I really think it's a bad idea.
We should do this.
And a woman to go, screw you, you're fired.
Like that's just not how things worked.
And so you tend to see abuses of authority more regularly.
Not all the time.
You also tend to see, this is something that's very, very disconcerting.
A lot of people don't know, far more both emotional and physical abuse in single mother households than single father households.
But the courts don't really take that into account.
You see far more domestic abuse in lesbian couples than you see not only in heterosexual couples, but lower than heterosexual couples are gay couples.
And again, my theory, and I don't know that anyone has studied this, I've talked about this, is because two men, right, there isn't that differential of power where someone's going to smack the other dude and he's going to go, ah, it's going to be a fight, right?
Because you both have some degree of authority or capability of force, and so you have to measure it.
That's what holds you accountable.
That's not really the case with women.
They haven't gone through life that way.
So I've noticed that trend.
And I'm sure there's been a study on it, too.
Of course, by its very nature, women overwhelmingly are Democrats as far as representatives.
If you add them up with local representatives, city councils and state representatives, they tend to lean left much more than men.
And it's a voting demographic.
And so that to me is someone who is already prone to abusing authority because they believe it's the job of daddy government, mommy government to tell you what's best for you.
So yeah, I think that's why, because it's a power trip.
It's a power trip that occurs nowhere else in nature.
Again, not all, but who is more likely to abuse authority?
Someone who worked the system and now has authority in a position that occurs nowhere else in nature throughout human history?
Or someone who's had to learn their way to said authority?
If, yeah, women ruled the world, there would be no wars, but nobody would have guns and everybody would be oppressed.
There would be more wars.
Power trip.
I think there would be more wars.
I think there'd be more wars?
I really do.
I really do think there'd be more wars.
I mean, think of how awful, like, women will say this, right?
And you'll have a female employees who are like, oh, women are the worst.
When they get into an argument, they ostracize them and they ruin their life.
Now give them the military.
When I think about that phrase, if women ruled the world, I immediately think globalism.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it would be oppression.
Like you said, mommy government tells you what you're allowed to do.
Yeah.
But the problem with that theory was that they'd have to enforce that regulation with men.
Yeah.
No, of course.
Men have to enforce it.
Yeah, good luck.
So, I mean, let me just give you the simple answer.
More women are Democrats.
Next one.
All right.
Next chat from Miss Nancy Rice.
Question for At Crowder.
Do you think the carrying citizens hold back?
Do hold back.
Well, yeah, but it doesn't make sense with that.
Nonetheless, citizens hold back because they don't want to be involved in a court case where they are the bad guy, or has that changed?
No, I absolutely think that's the case.
And to be clear, look, if you're just carrying like a pocket pistol or a revolver, it is not expected of you and certainly not a requirement to take out someone with an AR-15 or an AK-47.
But if a bunch of you have it, it gives you a fighting chance.
And by the way, don't underestimate the element of surprise.
I think that somebody who is a law-abiding, caring citizen is more likely to be cautious.
Yes, absolutely.
They don't know the situation.
There's an active shooter.
They don't know the situation.
There's a whole paradigm theory where it's like, okay, well, if one guy has a, if two guys have a gun and then a good guy with a gun shows up and he wants to take care of it, how does he know which one's the good guy with the gun?
Right.
If one of them doesn't have a badge.
Right.
If a good guy with a gun shows up to stop a bad guy with a gun, but another good guy with a gun sees a good guy with a gun, thinks he's a bad guy with a gun, he shoots that guy.
Then that just keeps happening over and over and over.
So I think that people that are law-by-citizens are more cautious and maybe hold back a second to see, to assess the situation, make sure they don't make a mistake.
Right.
And then go to, you know, like you're going to get away from the.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
Like if you go on the gun forums and the gun sort of, you know, interest groups, like you will see entire discussions and debates from people like, well, you should use this because it's likely to stop the threat, but not have overpenetration.
You're responsible for every single bullet that exits the barrel of your gun.
And people going, yeah, but that's not enough penetration.
So how do we Balance being able to take out the threat without putting other people at risk.
And then, of course, it becomes autistic and this crazy circle jerk.
But the spirit of it is they're very responsible and very thoughtful in relation to the point of getting nerdy and lost in the weeds.
Where it's like, look, get a good, reputable gun in a caliber that you can handle, get a good, reputable form of ammo.
There are a handful of companies.
Carry it.
Get good with it.
You cover your bases.
And use it often.
I think people are, a lot of people are scared to discharge a firearm in a real situation because they don't do it.
It's not muscle memory.
It is a scary thing to shoot somebody.
Sure.
Oh, yeah.
Scary is not the right word.
I don't know the right word, but there is a feeling.
You're never prepared for it.
Before, yeah.
Yeah, you think you're prepared.
I mean, unless you practice.
Right.
You're better prepared, but it is a weird feeling.
Sure.
To shoot at someone, to shoot someone.
Yeah, there's a unique feeling that people aren't ready for, I think, sometimes.
I can imagine.
I've never been on a two-way range, and I don't ever hope to be.
Right.
Two-way range.
I've never heard it called that before.
Yeah, I mean, I don't hope to be, but yeah, I do think that they are.
And I think, again, you can blame your legislators.
And frankly, you can blame your local police department if you're in a municipality where that's how they handle things.
I told you this one time.
The one time I ever got like a serious ticket, I was not a serious, but I was driving and I found out that my license had been suspended in Michigan because I had an unpaid ticket.
Now, the ticket, and I ended up having it wiped, was I was visiting family, so it was in a car that wasn't mine.
It was a speeding trap, and it was posted to an address that I had never been.
There must have been some clerical error.
And I said, I don't know.
And so when I went before the judge, I had to go to this specific district that I hadn't been to since I got that ticket because I said, hey, your license was suspended X months ago because I didn't pay this ticket.
So I go before the judge and they go, okay, and you were driving.
How do you plead?
And I at this point didn't know.
I said, guilty, Your Honor, but I would like to explain my side.
And she said, I'm going to put you down as not guilty.
I didn't realize that you didn't get it.
I was like, no, I did it.
But here's the explanation.
And so they ended up making it less than a moving infraction because the cop had screwed up.
But I didn't know at the time.
And I said, like, so, oh, they said, so it's just basically less than a, it's a so-and-so misdemeanor.
Does that mean like, do I have to fill this out in a form if I purchase a firearm or does it affect?
And the judge said, I don't know anything about that.
I don't know anything about guns and I don't want to.
Oh, geez.
And the local attorney said, of course not.
He said, it's less.
He said, it's less than running a red light or a stop sign.
No.
He said, it's less than five over, okay, with the way that we put this into the system.
And it's only, so you're fine.
Like you could see he was like, this bitch.
She wants everyone to know, like, I don't like guns.
So imagine that judge.
Imagine that judge, right?
You will run into that.
Yeah.
And so you need to get those people out because if they have the final say, then you're still going to have a culture of people afraid to rightfully use their firearms.
And Stephen should have gone to jail.
That's the point.
That's the point.
Should have gone to jail.
Stephen goes to jail.
Yep.
We missed out.
All right.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Jess Mix27.
What is your argument against someone who is very pro Second Amendment, but against concealed carry?
Because when the government comes for your guns, they already have a list.
You mean the concealed carry permits, I think?
Probably.
I don't think you mean the concept of concealed carry.
Well, I don't necessarily know that every state, because it's issued on a state-by-state basis, that they keep you in a registry.
I'm not entirely sure, but I do know.
Why they don't always register, if you're on a concealed carry permit, doesn't mean that they know how many guns you have.
You just have a permit to conceal carry a weapon.
Yeah, it's not the same thing as a register.
Whereas in Michigan, when I lived there, you had to register each firearm with your local police department, which really rubbed me the wrong way.
In Washington, you have to do it when you purchase it.
Okay.
So, yeah, every firearm has to be.
A lot of states are like, I don't want to say most, but a lot of states you have to register.
I do support the idea of constitutional carry.
I think that it is, just like no one gets to infringe on your First Amendment right, whether it's Utah or whether it's New York, the same should apply to Amendment Number Two.
If you're a law-abiding citizen, you should be allowed to keep and bear, meaning carry, have on you arms.
So I support it.
Less useful.
Yeah, there is some use still in having it in a car or having it in your house.
Yeah.
You know, if I've got it in my car and I'm at, you know, a function somewhere, it's like, well, great, if I can make it to my car in time.
Right.
You know, great.
Yeah.
So I support that.
I just doubt that.
I actually recently saw a guy make it to his car in time.
Oh, really?
Not in person, obviously.
A video.
It was a video of this guy.
He, man, I wish I could remember where it was so I could help research pull it up.
But this guy got into an altercation with security.
He had a gun, pulled out a gun, and then tried to run away.
I think he fired around, tried to run away, and then another security guard who was behind him at a different – I think this is the Alaska video you're talking about.
I don't know.
I don't think it was Alaska.
It might be, but I don't think so.
But yeah, the guy was, it was just on the street, and the security guy's car just happened to be right there, parked on the street.
He popped the trunk, reached in, grabbed a gun, and just standing there.
The guy tried running away after firing a shot or whatever, and then took him out right there on the sidewalk.
Great.
Good.
I'm glad that he did.
So it was nice.
Luckily, his car was right there, though.
So that's it.
Well, that was like the Allen shooting at the Allen Mall.
Remember, was it an off-duty officer?
He responded before the official police call.
He was there, actually, talking with some people, just doing community kind of goodwill stuff.
But on duty, on duty.
And he went to his car and got his shots.
He got his own rifle.
And the guy did some amazing shooting.
When we watched it, I was like, it was like John Wicker video.
Like, if you've ever been to that place, it could have been way worse.
Oh, yeah.
It could have been way worse.
That place is like a maze to get out of.
People don't really know how to get out of there.
Yeah.
And so it could have been a lot worse.
So I am against any kind of gun registry.
I think it's unconstitutional.
I don't think that you should have to get a permit to carry.
I understand why, but I also wouldn't equate a concealed carry permit with a registry because like Josh has said, I have a permit because it's required in Texas, but it doesn't mean they know how many guns I have.
And I don't think you have to give when you're.
I don't think there's any state where you get a concealed carry license and you have to give the registration of any of your firearms.
No.
Because you can get it.
You can get it before even buying a firearm.
Right.
They know, like, it's unlikely that you're going to go through the process of getting a concealed carry permit if you don't have a firearm.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, but making a list of where firearms are, like, which houses have firearms, which houses don't, for the government to come and seize.
But again, that's way down the road of kind of revolution stuff.
I think you pass a very thorough criminal background check, meaning you haven't incriminated any crimes, or if it would show up on your record, if you have been proven adjudicated mentally defective when you purchase your firearms, and then you have the right to carry them, concealed, or open.
That's what I think should be the case.
That's my opinion.
You may not agree with it, but is there a registry of background checks?
I would imagine there is.
I don't know.
I would imagine you do a background check and then there's like a credit check.
If I can get denied an American Airlines credit card because I've had three credit inquiries in the last two years.
They called me and I told them not to do that.
I think this is funny.
Well, thanks, Gerald.
I appreciate it.
Got you covered.
That's why I don't get 70,000 bonus miles.
Okay.
It's also such a stupid law.
When you talk about credit, it's like someone who literally carries debt and won't be able to pay it off can have better credit than the person who uses it like a debit card, but they had to sign up for internet and a utility.
Remember, like when we moved to the house, they're like, oh, you don't want to do this anymore because it's going to be a hard credit pull.
I'm like, well, how do I turn on my electricity?
Because it's going to be the first.
It's like, so everyone who moves is going to have a credit ding because they all pull your credit check?
Dude, that's what happened to me.
Because I moved.
Then I had to, my car broke and I had to buy a, well, my car was stolen.
So I had to buy a new car anyways.
Then my other car broke.
And then I got an accident.
So I had to buy another car.
Then I bought a house.
So it was within a year and a half that I had all these credit inquiries and I didn't get shit from it.
Yeah.
Except for all the things I needed.
That's the worst.
I wish I had credit.
I wish I had gold chain credit cards.
Yeah.
I do.
Credit cards that I spend on Dom Perign.
I don't know what people use credit cards for.
Credit cards have credit cards.
Vacations?
I don't know what you guys use credit cards for.
It's all so silly.
Same thing like you're with a big bank, whether it's Chase or Bank of America or whatever it is.
And like, would you like a credit limit to increase?
You're like, well, okay.
How much?
Like, well, you have to request it.
Like, well, how much can you increase it?
Like, I'm not allowed to do that.
And it's like, I'm like, are you on the other end of the phone just filling out the online form that I could do myself?
And you can't take into account how much money is with your bank.
None of that.
It's just an auto form.
And you call yourself somebody in finance.
You're a glorified quick trip clerk, only I respect them more.
It's like a girl going, do you want to kiss me?
Yeah.
Well, you got to ask me.
Can I kiss you?
No.
Loser.
I can't let you ask me that.
You're gross.
I don't want to do it anyway.
You smell, too.
Can I kiss you?
Where?
Where do you want me?
I can't answer.
I'm not allowed.
You have to say where.
On your neck?
Next chat.
Final?
Is it final?
Final chat.
If this chat is, can I kiss Steven?
We have come for full circle.
Get in line, mister.
Next.
Final chat from Steven.
Speedy the conspiracy theorist.
Didn't Candice, I always said something that I was gay because I didn't think Sidney Sweeney was a 10.
Yeah, you thought she was.
There is a few people that were like, come over to the closet.
All right.
You're like, all right, whatever.
Okay.
Oh, because he said something on a comedy show.
Okay.
All right.
Candace has been invited.
I mean, I think she was invited on the show to debate the Iran issue.
She never did.
So, oh, that's a thing.
She doesn't debate anyone, but then just do passive-aggressive.
That's really high school.
Yeah.
You're gay.
Calling someone gay who's not gay, I don't know why people think that's an insult.
You're gay.
All right.
I'm still going to bang my wife tonight.
It's like people do it.
It's like someone making fun of me for being short.
I'm like, if someone goes, you're short.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Okay.
Whatever.
Fine.
Didn't know 60.
Yeah, me too.
I'm short.
Final chat from 2025.
Like, make it something that stings with some, like, treatment.
Be like, hey, your face is not symmetrical.
I'd be like, ah, damn it.
Man, this guy really wants me to be gay.
Yeah.
Why does he want me to be gay so much?
Stop it.
When you get all wound up, your voice goes into a different pitch.
You're like, son of a, he's got a point.
It does do that.
It does do that, which is gay, I heard.
Yeah.
Be better is what we're saying.
Yes.
Yeah.
Insulting.
I get it.
I get it.
Well, I need to be better, too.
I need to be better at not better at hiding my gayness.
I'm not the one wearing the hat that stands for suck dick.
Whoa.
But you are.
Whoa.
Oh, no.
You just told on yourself.
Oh, no.
Candace is going to have a field day with it.
Well, he is a giver.
Come get me, wide eyes.
It's okay.
She'll be bankrupt.
Don't worry about it.
She'll be bankrupt anyways.
You want to find out if I'm a man?
Well, it talks.
Bonnet head shocks really can talk.
All right, final chat from Swarty25.
Question for the crew.
I understand the value of recording.
Hold on, pause.
Didn't she also say that I had hit on her?
Remember that?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Remember that?
One of those gay guys.
The night of the midterms when she was on the Daily Wire.
I think she's thinking Steven hit on me.
And, of course, never provided any receipts.
Like, which is it?
Did I hit on you?
Or am I gay?
I don't know.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're secretly gay.
You're still closeted.
You haven't found out yourself that you are gay.
If you're gay and you are hitting on Candace Owens, that must mean...
She has a dick.
Yes, she does.
There it is.
Does Candace Owens have a penis?
She is Emmanuel McCraw.
No, no, no.
I would never defame her with that.
She did sue her city with the NAACP, accusing the mayor's sons of being racist, and create an anti-Trump website and a doxing website up until and including 2016, and then sue her landlord for not taking care of her apartment, not paying rent, and then claimed racism when he wanted to evict her.
So that's enough, I think.
You don't need to say she has a dick.
Final chat.
What's that movie called?
Tokyo Grift?
Sorry, next chat.
Sorry.
No, no, Griff.
Very true.
Oh, random person.
I have a dick.
Believe me.
Don't provide me.
Big dick.
Good for Sumo.
That's right.
Only trust on me.
I marry actual Rord.
For Roth.
I love him.
I can't say it.
Rod.
What a Rod.
Rord.
I'm a nobel.
No.
Funny chat.
Just commit.
Go.
Go, go.
All right.
Question for the crew.
I understand the value of recording with phones.
However, what is your opinion on a victim also suing the dozens of bystanders, prioritizing recording over helping?
There's no duty to intervene in a fight or something like that, I don't believe.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like a society where this goes back to comedy-wise.
I always think whenever I hear something like this, I think about that Seinfeld episode.
Yeah.
It was one of their last ones where they get in trouble.
They go to the other side.
It was the final.
It was the finale.
It was John Pinette was being mugged, and they were making fun of it.
That's right.
It was John Pinette.
Yeah, rest in peace.
What a funny guy.
They're making fat toastoids get mugged.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And with them in jail.
And it's the Good Samaritan Law was what it was.
Yeah.
So if you have time, watch the Good Samaritan Law episode of Seinfeld.
You'll enjoy it.
But yeah, you can't hold people accountable for being scared.
No, no, you can't.
Or indifferent, I guess.
Not just scared, but.
Yeah.
Isn't that kind of always funny, though?
Like, whenever you see heroes, they're invariably usually like a Stephen Williford or somebody who's more conservative, someone who would vote for fewer laws, but does seem to have deeply held convictions about their civic duties.
Yeah.
Right.
Like there's no law that says Stephen Williford in Sutherland Springs.
20-something people were killed.
It says he has to go back to his, take out his ARF and take the guy out.
And chase him down.
And chase him down.
Yeah.
Right.
But the leftist goes, law, law.
Well, hold on a second.
You have a good Samaritan law, but don't you also have a law of someone, if they use their firearm, they can actually be sued?
And don't you also have a law that, by the way, says you can sue the mom-and-pop gun shops, or at least they did for a long time, for selling the firearm, even if they sold it to someone who used it lawfully to stop a conflict?
That's why Bernie Sanders didn't get a full-on F from the NRA.
He got a D-, and they all attacked him for it because he said you shouldn't be able to sue mom-and-pop gunshops, but you should be able to sue Smith and Wesson if someone uses the gun for a mass shooting, both of which are asinine, by the way.
So they create these laws, but then they have a society where everyone is terrified because the left can't say, hey, step in when there's a gang beating, regardless of race, because it's the right thing to do.
No, you have the chief who came out and you didn't see both sides of the story.
Well, let me ask, you think that maybe is ringing through the head of Cincinnati fucking citizens when they see a gang beating going on?
And instead, they're going, like, maybe I should step in.
Oh, wait, I remember that Karen police chief who said, you need to see both sides, which means that there is a world in which she thinks this is justified, therefore I'm not.
Right?
You can't do that.
You just have to go, hey, look, this is the right thing.
We don't need a law for it, but I would recommend that you help your fellow citizens.
You know, like I've been telling you today, the left has a law and a law and a law and a law.
And there's so many laws.
I think there's still a law in the books, if I'm not mistaken.
It's either South Carolina or Georgia where you can't wear a silly hat that might scare a minor.
Like it's an actual law on the books right now.
There's so many stupid, silly laws.
Should you step in and do the right thing?
Yeah, yeah.
But that's me, a conservative who believes that there's an actual moral right and a moral wrong and a requirement from you as a human being.
I also understand why you'd be scared.
If, hey, if you live in New York, if you live in New York City and you see that happening and the person who is the perpetrator is the wrong race and you're the wrong race and you step in and you do the right thing and you get the wrong prosecutor, you absolutely see it all the time.
You could be punished more harshly than the person who started the crime in the first place.
So yeah, I think that at this point, it's completely irrelevant, the idea of a good Samaritan law.
I think it made sense when we had a country where people had some sense of a civic duty.
I think today it's really nothing more than the opportunity to lay a trap from leftist lawmakers who care about every single marginalized group or minority group or currently a whatever, insert whatever here, except for you.
If you are a middle class, upper middle class, white contributing, taxpaying, law-abiding American, you are more at risk of being punished if you use your gun legally.
You are more at risk of being punished or sued.
If you intervene legally, you are more at risk or to be punished if you say the right thing legally to the wrong person.
Meanwhile, you can be someone of the right race, someone who's insert whatever useful minority here today, commit a crime, harm your fellow citizen, and you will bear less risk.
That's the truth.
The left just doesn't care.
I'm not making it only about race, but let's call this what it is at this point.
If you're a white upper middle class male in this country who is legally carrying a firearm, you are a cornucopia of litigation to those on the left.
And it's all designed to intimidate everyone else into silence, into stopping them from doing the right thing.
We need a culture change.
We need a culture change.
The black community needs a culture change.
We're starting to see the culture change in the Hispanic community look at their voting patterns, look at their tolerance for crimes.
We need to see it across the board.
Otherwise, we're going to continue to be fractured and segregated.
Or, you know, as the left calls that, progress, because black-only spaces are some shit.
How is that not just Jim Crow again?
We'll see you tomorrow, right?
Isn't that just Jim Crow?
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