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Basically, founded on FU.
Yeah.
That's really what it is.
Like, our flag should be a giant middle finger and whatever stars we have room for.
That's what it should really be.
But you're poor and you're not as grand as us.
Yeah.
Eat shit.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, it's not like that's the only time we did it.
Like, we've done it several other times in different ways, obviously with World War I or World War II going over.
And it's like, listen, guys, we're kind of the, we're the cock of the walk.
Yeah.
Cock of the walk, Baby.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's nothing they, there's nothing they could do about it.
And imagine like that, their first losses, and then someone had to get on a boat back home.
And that whole time is like, oh, he's not going to be happy about this.
He's going to be a little pissed.
We'll go back soon.
Don't worry.
Because all their carrier pigeons, they ended up going down in the ocean and washing up on the shores of the Mediterranean.
Yeah, that's what happens.
Those bastards.
Small pond, they call it.
There are people in Italy who are seeing bodies that are from ice.
What a ridiculous.
Okay.
It's just these people, it really is delusional.
And it's warped from hatred.
I mean, if you look in social media right now, the alligator alcatraz comparisons are just, they are legion comparing them to the Auschwitzes of the world from Nazi Germany and the racks and everything.
I'm like, the Jews didn't exactly get deported anywhere.
They were, you know, no matter what the number is, because I know I'd piss a lot of people off by saying this.
I'm like, yeah, so millions of Jews being killed is the same thing as somebody being deported to their home.
That's a processing point.
That's not a final destination.
No, I mean, it could be if they try to escape, then it is.
And these people were given the right to self-deport.
Yes.
Yeah, they were an incentive of money and a flight and everything.
$1,000?
Go ahead, do it.
I mean, it's Spirit Airlines, but it's still a flight.
They want to be in occupied Germany so badly that they're willing to risk being sent to an air-conditioned unit to await a one-way ticket back to their homeland where they will only be harmed by alligators if they try and escape again to find themselves at large in our country.
It's air-conditions.
They have bunks and blankets and sheets and pillows.
They get fed.
The first time I saw a video two days ago, whatever, from the actual alligator Alcatraz, I was looking at it and they were like, look at this concentration camp.
Look at these cages.
I was like, whoa, look at these people living better than I did for eight months in Kandahar.
I know.
And I was serving this country.
And I didn't think anything of it.
I didn't think, whoa, I'm in living in the gutter.
I didn't think that.
I just thought, hey, this is how it goes, I guess.
I guess these are people who've never been spanked and have never been put in a timeout.
Like, I don't know about you, but with my kids, if I do a timeout, I put them in my home office because it's a very boring room.
Like, nothing fun happens there, but I know it's safe, right?
They have a big, comfy chair.
I'm not going to put them in their bedroom because I don't want them to associate a place or a playroom.
It's like, okay, this is a room where daddy works and you're going to work on yourself.
And that's how you build strong children.
Yeah, exactly.
A timeout is not meant to be time with your toys.
It's a timeout because you've broken the law.
And so now you forfeit some of your rights that are recognized or afforded to you, certainly privileges, if you follow the law.
Well, since you didn't, now you're in a timeout.
It's not supposed to be pleasant.
You're not supposed to be put in a junior suite apartment.
These are people who've never been disciplined.
Yeah.
I want them.
I mean, think about this, though, too.
If we, if talk about the British, we were giving them crap, but sending your prisoners to an island on the other side of the planet is kind of a cool idea.
Yeah.
Right.
Because they're away from your citizens.
They're not going to hurt you anymore.
It's fantastic.
We're basically doing the same thing here.
Like, hey, these people are going to be deported to their home country.
Some could be violent felons, maybe not.
I'm not sure exactly what level of people are going.
Either way, if they have the incentive to escape, they're not going to hurt anybody.
They're going to get eaten.
So that's great for all of the citizens of the United States, especially for the people in Florida.
Why?
Put them as far away as possible.
In fact, put them so far away that when I spin the, I have to spin the globe to find them.
Yes.
Exactly.
The Fumagava.
Hey, that was the original, that was a crocodile alcatraz.
Really?
Australia?
I mean, it is.
It's like the most deadly place on the planet Earth for all the natural wildlife that are there.
And we're like, well, we'll put our prisoners there.
Crocodiles are very different from alligators.
There's like, I think Ginger Snap found this for me.
Laney found this for me.
There was like a village, and I want to say Cambodia, where like hundreds of people were eaten by crocodiles in a year.
Was there crocodiles in Cambodia?
I think it was Cambodia.
It was Cambodia.
Maybe it was Thailand, but it was a village where they have to live on the river.
And then they live in the river because they need to fish and they need to go down and clean their wash their clothes and they keep getting eaten by crocodiles.
I'd wear dirty clothes.
Yeah, the crocodiles are like, hey, motherfucker, just wait another 45 minutes.
Someone's going to come down to just like wash their hammock.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't eat the fish.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't eat the fish.
Don't fill up on fish.
They catch the fish.
Kyle, stop eating the fish.
People come for the fish.
We eat the people.
They're bigger.
Come on.
Come on.
Don't fill up on fish.
You always do this.
You always fill up on fish.
They don't have doggy bags here, okay?
Just.
But the fish is free.
Stay in the water, Kyle.
Stay in the water.
Look, look, look.
Here he comes.
Yeah, with that stick and kind of some thread that he thinks he's going to catch some fish with.
He doesn't even see you coming.
I told you this is perfect.
Look, this guy is a net.
What an idiot.
Crocodiles are aggressive bastards.
Look at this bastard.
He's washing his pants.
It's horrible.
It's horrible, crocodile.
Alligators are kind of skittish.
They're like big squirrels.
Generally.
Those pants without legs.
Yeah.
You said there's a new trade deal.
So Trump released a truth about a trade deal with Vietnam.
Oh.
So can you read it?
All right, let me try it.
It is my great honor to announce that I have just made a trade deal with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam after speaking with To Lam.
To Lam.
The highly respected, very respected To Lam.
Sure, I'm Lam.
General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam.
Not a fan, but I like To Lam.
It will be a great deal of cooperation between our two countries.
The terms are that Vietnam will pay the United States a 20% tariff on any and all goods sent into our territory and a 40% tariff on any trans shipping.
In return, Vietnam will do something they have never done before.
It's never been done.
Give the United.
If you scroll, I can't read.
I was trying to talk it up.
I lost my place.
Give The United States of America total access to their markets for trade.
In other words, they will open their markets to the United States.
Hold on, who's he quoting there?
Me.
He's quoting himself.
Meaning that we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at zero tariff.
It is my opinion that the SUV, or as it is sometimes referred to, large engine vehicle, which does so well in the United States, will be a wonderful addition to the various product lines within Vietnam.
They need them.
They have snakes.
And alligators.
They want to be further away.
Higher ground clearance.
Dealing with the general secretary, To Lam, which I did personally, was an absolute pleasure.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Always.
This also sends a message.
Hey, you guys want to make a deal?
We're going to have some people.
If you don't want to make a deal, we're going to have the people around you who are willing to make a deal.
Yeah.
That doesn't sound like Vietnam gets anything out of it.
They get access to the U.S. markets still.
Do they not have access to it?
No, I mean, we were putting some pretty big tariffs on it.
So we sell you things, get a lot of money.
Yeah, they're paying a lower tariff to still have access because they're...
20 and 40% is a lower tariff.
And they're also getting access to American goods is what I think he was saying too, right?
Okay, well, if they weren't before, I guess that's good.
I don't know if they'll be able to afford it.
Yeah.
They definitely can in some places.
There's like the high-rises in, what is it, Ho Chi Minh City?
Yeah.
So now.
Oh, that's a big deal.
So Saigon.
I mean, and that was in 2008, I think, when I was there.
Welcome to the Russian Roulette Resorts.
Yes, exactly.
Now they can get Dodge Durangos.
Exactly.
I don't think they're going to buy the big SUVs.
It's going to be the small.
Hammy!
No, no.
So is the trans shipping to make sure that people can't just ship goods there and basically use that as a destination, or not a destination, but a country to get around tariffs?
So, for example, if we have 50% tariffs on China, are they basically shipping it to Vietnam, having it reshipped to the United States to avoid a tariff?
Research says yes.
Okay.
All right.
So that's what I thought.
So that's one way.
That's a big deal for us, probably more so than anything else in that deal, is making sure that countries cannot use them as a quick, easy port to go through to get to the United States without a tariff.
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, hopefully they become less socialist, less communist.
I thought it was just both with trannies, tranny shipping.
I don't know.
I just was like, either one's bad.
That's Thailand.
If ever on a plane and some guy's like, I'm going to Thailand, you know, I go every year.
I just love it there.
You're like, no.
Now.
Freak.
Especially from Europe.
Yeah.
So many Europeans in Thailand.
It's trans shipping.
What is that?
Fed XY?
Yeah.
Ladyboy shipping.
Next day.
Payful Expedite Ladyboy.
All right.
Remember, we have talking with people.
We're going to be on break, but next Monday and the following Monday, discussing ICE with people.
And actually got pretty much exclusively immigrants who I spoke with.
I think there might have been like one guilty white lady.
Yeah.
But aside from that.
Did you shame her?
No.
Why not?
Because she actually supported the idea of deporting people who weren't here.
Hey, so she was actually fine.
She was a little bit nervous.
Then when she realized I was on her side, she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, get rid of them.
Yeah, between me and you.
Yeah.
Just look around.
There's a Mexican with a hard hat.
Let me say something really quick.
You gave some really good advice to a Mexican person in this, like, you know, change that, right?
Don't have a flag flying there.
Change that.
All right.
Was it the Mexican person you said that to or the Chinese person?
So the Mexican person said it wasn't the best country.
The Chinese person said, like, we don't.
I said, well, so your husband is American.
Do you fly a Chinese flag?
Or an American person?
Like, oh, we don't fly any flags.
Change it.
Yeah.
So here's the advice that I want to expand on that.
Like, change that for all of you out there, especially around this time of year.
Like, throw the flag up, man.
Like, do, do something to be proud of your country.
Yeah.
Thank God I live in a neighborhood that actually does put stuff out.
People do put stuff out, you know, to kind of celebrate this.
And I just leave it up all year round.
Have a flag on your house.
What's the, I mean, proud of it.
This isn't patriotism.
This is just appreciation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful flag.
Look at that thing.
Yeah.
It's right behind you both.
It's so beautiful.
I love that.
It's kind of the hell out of that British guy in the video.
Show us that you want to be here.
Yeah.
Even Americans like born here people, like, let's have pride in our country again because every time I see a flag, I like it.
Yeah.
It's not an offensive symbol.
And if anybody says so, they're not going to be convinced about anything that you believe.
So screw them.
Put the flag up.
If you see a flag, you're almost guaranteed that that person is a conservative.
And a good person.
Yeah.
Someone who likes his country.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if you're, they used to have like, I don't know if they still have block parents, but if you're in a bind and you need someone to help you, if you see a flag, you're going to feel better about going there than someplace that doesn't.
And that's the left wants you to believe that it's a, you know, that it's a white supremacy symbol.
The truth is people will feel, if you see flag, you go, okay, probably someone who's patriotic, probably someone who shares my values, right?
It's a common symbol.
That's what it's supposed to be.
It's like them finishing your half a fish in the sand.
So anyway, we're going to have the talking with people next Monday and the Monday after that.
But since it's our last day right now, it's time for chat, not Thursday, Wednesday.
Chat.
Actually made a stinger for it, aren't we?
Yeah, yeah.
Chat Wednesday.
A lot of work went into that.
Seven letters.
All right, go ahead.
Did you do it, Joe?
What are you waiting on?
Nothing.
The show's not getting any better now.
We put a chicken in a freeze dryer and killed the office hamster, okay?
Today is just one of those shows.
All right.
First chat from that fine fellow.
Question.
Why do leftists seem to value outsiders more than U.S. citizens?
Is it just all of their propaganda or is something actually wrong with them physiologically?
They like anything that is not America.
They like opposite of America better than the United States of America.
It's really clear.
America bad, others inherently good.
America bad, Europe good.
America bad, Asia good.
America bad, I mean, look at Bernie Sanders, honeymooning in the USSR.
America bad, Russia good.
Look at Bernie Sanders praising Castro.
America bad, Castro good.
There really is no other way to try and rationalize it when you look at them supporting opposition opponents to us who, by the way, would hate each other.
America bad Palestine good.
America bad Cuba good.
They support regimes that execute gays while then claiming to support nations because they're more progressive on gays.
It's the only common denominator is they hate everything that makes America America.
First Amendment bad.
Second Amendment bad.
Traditional values bad.
Judeo-Christian founding bad.
Right?
The only consistent through line is anytime there's people lining up on opposite sides of the line, the battle line is they err on the side of not America.
Can I push back a little bit?
Yeah, go ahead.
I agree with a lot of that, but I think that a lot of these leftists have an obsession with progressiveness.
They're obsessed with doing anything progressive.
And you've talked about it a lot before, but we have this idea that's being taught to our colleges that everything in the world can be broken down to oppressed and oppressor.
And they always have to side with what they view as the oppressed, the victim, the little guy, the small person, Palestine, anybody who's a migrant coming to this country.
They fear, they absolutely fear being thought of as racist or culturalists or being conceived as some kind of nationalist or an elitist with religion or anything like that.
So they absolutely fear the fact that someone's going to go, oh, you don't want an immigrant from Venezuela here?
Right.
You must be racist.
I'm not racist.
No, no, no.
No, they should be able to come here.
And we should give that, because they don't have health care.
They should be able to get health care from here because we are the elite.
Yeah.
I'm not an elitist, but we are the elite and we need to look out for the little guy.
Sure, there's a little guy who's living in New Mexico who was born here, but he's part of the oppressed.
He's the oppressor.
I mean, he's an American.
He's already the bad guy.
Yeah, I think we're saying the same thing.
Progress for the sake of progress is just a problem in its own right.
But if you're looking at oppressor versus oppressed, and this comes from Marxism.
It comes from the idea of the factory owner, the owner of the business must be bad, the workers must be inherently good.
That's the entire basis for revolution.
The United States is the oppressor in any disagreement with it because we are the best in the world.
They won't say it like that.
They won't say we're the best in the world.
They'll say that we are the biggest oppressor.
Right.
Which is their way of saying we are number one, and everyone else we look down upon.
Well, that's the whole thing.
And they only look at that dynamic in that current conflict.
In other words, they don't look at Hamas.
They don't look at these countries and what they do to their own people as far as oppression.
They just go, wait, with current conflict, Israel, Hamas.
Oh, yeah, because there's always a bigger oppressor.
If there's a bigger oppressor, then you take the side of the little oppressor if they're even a little tiny bit oppressed or at least consistent.
And here's the thing.
It's also, I've said this.
If they tell you the Democrat Party is the party of the poor, not the middle class, not the working class, but the poor, then they want to keep you poor, right?
They want to continue to be the class of the poor.
They need poor to exist to be that representative.
They're terrified of being seen as successful.
That's why AOC lies and says she's from the Bronx, where she was from.
The median income, and I think Benny Johnson actually did go down.
This is an old story.
She's from Yorkville.
And the median income in the area of the Bronx where she claims to be from, I think she lived there for like a few months, is like 40 something thousand.
The median income of Yorkville is $160,000.
But she doesn't want people to see her successful because think about it.
You're wealthy, you're bad.
They vilify success.
You own a business, you're bad, right?
So they don't want to be the villain.
Yes, you're successful.
They don't want to be the villain that they've made out to be this boogeyman.
So it's, no, no, no, I'm not successful.
I'm just like you.
Whereas people who are, this is one thing too that I always, to me, tells you who is voting based on some, I should say, foundation or some basis and moral principle.
Yeah, someone in the United States, the average Trump voter, for example, if you were to take a sampling of rural Americans making between $30,000 and $60,000 a year, they're likely going to be a Trump voter.
They are not just voting in their own self-interest.
Sure, they want the economy to be better.
Sure, they want our immigration policy to be sensible.
But they're voting for Donald Trump, even though people who run businesses may also get some tax breaks.
Why?
Because they think it's the right thing to do.
Well, it's not my job.
I don't have the right to take that person's stuff.
Now, they'll have a problem with it when it's ill-gotten gain, like big tech companies who benefit from the oligarchy, right, with the government who picks winners and losers.
But the average working man in the United States, yeah, as far as he's being promised free ship, but he's not buying it from the Democrat Party.
They are terrified of being seen as successful.
That's why they think about this, okay?
Big difference.
Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan came in and all of a sudden America was back in charge.
Women wearing shoulder pads.
It's, hey, you know, we're happy to be the greatest country in the world.
Patriotism.
Patriotism requires that you believe this country is great and you believe this country is successful rightfully so and you have the ability to be successful.
Jimmy Carter would fake carry his own suitcases that were empty and have his detail carry the actual suitcases in the back way.
Just peanut shells.
Yeah, yeah.
Just so he could look like I'm just like you because he doesn't want to be the success that he's vilified.
Otherwise, how do you say, look, they're only successful because they've taken from you.
Marxism, communism, too, it could never be more clearly proven false in the United States.
I believe it's mission control.
You guys can find this for me.
I believe 60% of Americans actively employed are employed by small businesses.
And I don't know where the cutoff is.
So when they go, hey, owner, bad, seize the means of production and distribution.
That can't possibly apply to a company with three, four, 10, 20 people.
You know the guy.
You've probably seen him create it from the ground up.
This country showed you that Marxism is evil, that it's just based on covetousness and hatred.
So the left has to think America bad.
Why?
Because America is successful.
And you can only become successful if you oppress someone.
That's Marxism.
You can only become a business owner.
You can only become successful if you've oppressed people.
It doesn't allow for room that there are plenty of people who have actually come by it honestly.
And that's most people here in the United States.
That's most people.
There are some bad apples, of course.
But it doesn't allow room for that.
And the United States is the country of that.
And so they just have to say it's all bad.
It's all bad.
Honeymoon on the USSR.
The U.S. wants you to believe that Castro is bad.
The U.S. wants you to believe that Chavez in Venezuela is bad.
Sean Penn, Bernie Sanders, They literally said it's propaganda.
The Castros are great.
Look at what they're giving their people.
Look what they're doing for their people.
They just move on from it.
I don't know if Bernie has ever actually been called to the mat.
Hey, when you praise the Castros and when you praised Chavez and when you praised Soviet Russia while it was communist, why were they all wrong?
And how did you get it wrong every single time?
Frame it in that way so we can go, well, it was great until it changed.
Really?
I want to see that interview.
Yeah.
I'd love to see that.
I mean, if you had more people pushing back on this too, maybe those regimes would have collapsed sooner and fewer people would have been killed or at least, you know, subject to all the craziness that we had.
If we oppressed them more, if we oppressed their governments more, then those people would have been less oppressed by their government.
Yes.
I mean, so this all seems to be coming from one place too.
And a lot of the arguments that I hear here, it starts here, here, sorry.
Here, here.
On this.
Now hear this.
I'm an idiot.
Applejack, taking one last opportunity.
Good for you.
No, it comes from making decisions based on emotion instead of including logic.
Now, I understand that there can be problems with a 100% logic argument in that you don't really understand kind of how people are feeling in a situation.
That's fine.
But we are doing like 99% feeling right now in these decisions by the Democrats.
They're saying, well, it feels bad to say somebody can't come to this country.
Yeah, but people can't come to this country just all they want.
You completely take that out and go, well, how does it feel to the Americans who can't afford a house because there's 20 million people living in this country taking up some housing I can't afford, right?
So you don't walk through that logic at all.
And it seems like we need a much healthier dose of logic.
For example, there was an argument between two very good scholars on the Iran issue.
And at one point, one guy, he says, you know, Iran's the largest sponsor of state terrorism in the world, the largest nation state that is a sponsor of terrorism.
And this other guy goes, no, I think the United States is.
And then this other guy makes the comment that Iran is just acting in their own best self-interest by supporting these terrorist groups to strike at Israel.
I'm like, couldn't you make the same argument to the United States even on every decision you've disagreed with?
Isn't it the United States, maybe incorrectly, just acting in their own self-interest and their best interest of the United States?
Getting it wrong, but it doesn't feel right because we're the oppressor.
Israel's the oppressor.
You make some really bad logical arguments when you think like that.
Well, and people will point out using that, but also going back to the idea of communism, capitalism, and why they hate the United States.
Sure, of course.
By the way, capitalism does have its flaws.
And I will say this, of course, that the capitalism that we are, that I'm very supportive of, that's not what we're experiencing today.
It's not free enterprise capitalism when we live in an era of crony capitalism and too big to fail and privatizing profits and socializing losses.
I also think there's a real problem when nothing has created more wealth in human history than equities.
But we also do have a problem when the goods and services exchanged between the company, the business, and the consumer are less important than the shareholders, where they might not have the best interests of the actual consumer at heart.
When that starts to supersede the actual relationship between a business and a, yeah, we run into a problem and shorting stocks where now it's kind of a, you don't create, you now end up with a system of wealth that doesn't create anything.
I get it.
That's a problem.
But here's the thing.
Like you said, you want to apply logic.
You can't just apply logic.
Sure.
That's the beauty of the free enterprise system.
Look, let me ask you.
You'll hear the left say this all the time.
They want to let their freak flag fly and be artists.
Everyone's different, right?
Everyone is different.
You can't possibly fully comprehend, if we all accept this premise, you can't possibly fully comprehend the lived experience of the person next to you.
Now, that doesn't mean that they have their truth and you have your truth.
There is the truth.
But it is true that you can't possibly walk their entire life in their shoes.
Okay.
So you have a system that by design is not one size fits all.
In other words, for leftism, for socialism, for progressivism, for communism to work, it can only work if everyone is pretty much the same.
You are applying a one-size-fits-all solution.
So even though there are flaws in both, you absolutely, if you're looking at it logically, go, okay, we're going to use a starting off point of everyone is different and which system allows people to pursue their own interests more effectively.
If we know that people are going to pursue their own interests anyway, and we've seen that under communism, see the people at the top, the centralized powers that be, always becoming wealthy and the other people not, let's have a system that acknowledges everyone is different.
Because if we have a system that separates people's destinies, right, allows them to put that as much as can be done in their own hands, then it mitigates the damage that it would do to everyone else because people will make mistakes.
We want to have a system where people's individual mistakes don't affect everybody else because that's catastrophic.
Because if we say everyone's the same and let's centralize this power, we also accept that people make mistakes.
Ooh, now you have one centralized power and all it takes is one key person to make a mistake.
See Soviet Russia, see China, see Cuba, see Vietnam.
See every single example of communism.
Someone makes a mistake in a free enterprise system, in a constitutional republic, at least that's, think of it as damage control.
All right, that mistake can be isolated here.
It doesn't affect everybody because not everyone's in that same boat.
I want a system that at least starts with, acknowledges the reality of the human condition.
Everyone is different and everyone will pursue their own interests.
The only way that you can support progressivism, communism, socialism, Marxism, is if you start with the premise, all people are the same.
And therefore, we can control them.
And then you get to the point of how do you control them?
60%, 60% of the economy here in this country, small businesses.
They sent in the stat.
It's 61.7 million Americans, roughly half of the U.S. workforce.
Oh, wow.
Roughly half of the US workforce.
And it's what, under 50 employees, I think is a small business under 50?
There are different metrics.
I know some people say small businesses, small, medium-sized businesses.
I mean, if you work for a company that they could be generating many tens of millions of dollars in gross revenue and just have 20, 30, 40 employees, that's a small business.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, go ahead.
Seize the means of production.
Seize the means of distribution.
See how that works out for you.
All right.
Let's grab another chat.
All right.
Next chat from Blakeney, 1794.
Can we denaturalize Ilan Omar since she violated both her naturalization and congressional oaths by showing allegiance to a foreign state?
Her brother's pecker?
I would say yes.
Yeah.
I would say yes.
I think it creates a shitstorm, but I, you know, I like a good show.
Yep.
And she said, I dream of going back to Somalia.
Wow, dreams come true.
Your wishes, when you wish upon your bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I think, listen, this came up with the Mamdani comment from President Trump saying that if he got in the way of federal agents that he would arrest him.
And Kathy Hochl, governor of New York, came out and said he'd have to go through me kind of thing.
And I'm like, okay, you know, which granted, they got plenty of cuffs.
Well, this is the whole point.
Like, I think the American people are kind of for this.
I'm not for a Gestapo kind of tactic of just going and arresting people because you don't like them.
I am in for enforcing the law.
So if these people are, especially, not especially, but specifically as it relates to deportations and cleaning out the, which most Americans supported, getting rid of at least violent felons, closing down the problem at the border.
I think they should be arrested.
I think politicians should be held accountable.
If Elon Omar lied and we can prove it in a court of law and meet whatever evidence standards are necessary, then she should absolutely be removed from this country.
I don't care what office she holds.
She lied just like somebody else would lie and get deported for that or being denaturalized for that.
That is perfectly within the realm of what should happen.
Can someone show me the law?
Is it illegal to marry your brother or sister in this country, like officially illegal?
I pretty doubt it.
I think it's by states.
by state?
Yeah, it's like...
I don't know if I state with your cousins, but I don't think there's...
I know that they have...
Yeah.
Which some states really need to get on it.
Some red states really need to get on this 13-year-old marriage thing.
Yeah.
There's red states that allow that?
Yeah.
What?
I think maybe it's 14, but yeah.
It's 14 in Quebec.
Is it?
Yep.
Yeah.
If it wasn't 13.
Absolutely.
It was a big.
No, it wasn't surprising.
It was 14 if I think they were both under 18.
It might have even been younger than that.
But yes.
Well, that's not marriage.
That's a different thing.
So that's what, I mean, obviously both would be surprising.
No, there's marriage laws.
There are marriage laws, yeah.
I don't know which.
So it sounds like I'm making it up because I don't know the states off the top of my head.
No, I know.
But I'm sure we could bring it up.
It also comes with the fact that people 18 pretty normal for 15-year-olds to get married.
Like two 15-year-olds.
That was my mom and dad.
Dad also used to be normal to die at 29.
Well, no, no, no.
I don't think there's anything wrong with...
My mom and dad were 15 and 16 when they got married, respectively.
Yeah.
And they're still together.
Still together.
But they were both 15 and 16.
No, yeah, that's what we're saying.
That's why 15 and 30.
No, no.
It's not a Jerry Seinfeld situation.
No, no, no.
We weren't talking about pedophilia.
We were talking about under, you know, people getting married early.
My point is, I think that's why some of those laws may still be on the books.
I see.
But yeah, they definitely, if it's not clear.
At different times, I think we need to change it.
I think you shouldn't be able to opt into a governmental, because it is a government contract now.
You shouldn't be able to opt into a government contract like that and not be able to vote.
I think that's insane.
Yeah.
I understand the arguments we made there.
Yeah.
So what I'm seeing research sent in that apparently there are some states, the non-gray ones, that allow first cousins to get married.
However, what I'm finding, and Lane, correct me if I'm wrong, it's illegal to marry your sibling, aunts, uncles, things like that.
They consider that an incestuous marriage, and that's void under any state in the U.S. Sorry, Gerald.
Well, at the very least, if her brother is still here, start with him.
Deport him.
Because that's a lie, right?
He shouldn't be, if he got a citizenship from marrying his sister, which was the reason for it.
And I know they'll say half-brother, but you know what?
No.
Deport him.
Start with him.
That's my opinion.
There was something else we were talking about.
I don't remember what we were talking about.
And if she follows him, it was true love.
Yeah.
Yes, it was.
Go back to Somalia, the home you want to root for.
You know, this whole other countries.
Pushing for other countries is like, listen, if you've shown a loyalty above the loyalty that you have to the United States, to another country, I think, yeah, absolutely.
We should be like, yeah, you're not what you used to be.
We're going to hold a special election.
You're not a congressperson anymore or whatever it is.
We have been way too tolerant in a lot of ways.
I agree.
And I don't want to be, again, I don't want to be cruel.
I'm not advocating to overcorrect because that is likely going to happen in some of these scenarios.
I just want to be way less tolerant than we are right now.
I think we're so far from overcorrection.
Let me lay out the case for you.
Because I know, because you also, you and I both believe in rule of law and do what we're doing.
We also have a heart for people.
Like we care about people.
This isn't caring to do what we're doing.
But look how many people were, Biden administration, how many people were arrested January 6th.
Then look at how many people were charged and or arrested the Trump administration.
Bannon, Flynn.
There are a few other examples that just aren't coming to mind.
I'm sure someone could get me a list, right?
But hundreds.
How many people have been arrested?
The Biden administration?
Or just for being supporters?
As far as I know, none.
As far as I know, none.
Zero.
How many, how many?
So let's just, let's just even, let's, how about we just get that even remotely close to even?
Yeah.
Where's Bondi?
So either you have to believe that these people are so beyond so beyond arrest or beyond actually making anything stick, or maybe some people on the Republican side are ineffectual.
Yeah.
There needs to be at least one or two.
There need to be a handful of arrests for sure.
After COVID?
Think about after COVID?
After what happened with the Biden family?
After what happened with the elections?
Nothing?
None?
Nobody.
Not one.
After just, hey, how about you go after the people who signed off on the arrests?
Right?
On the arrests that were then proven to be Trumped up and false.
How about you just go after those people?
Because that's a violation of their oath and the law.
Go after the people who arrested Americans.
Go after people who've weaponized the DOJ.
No one?
No one.
Yeah, so let's not act like we're anywhere close to an overcorrection.
The score hasn't even been evened if you were just thinking of it that way.
All right, unless you have a note, noodles, I'll scrub it in the chat.
All right, next chat from Dark Humor67.
Are the effing swamp critters in the House and Senate going to codify any of the good shit that Trump signed executive orders about?
Or is it all going to get repealed when he leaves office?
I don't know.
It depends, I guess.
It depends on what it is.
I mean, the truth is, there are some things that you do through executive orders because it's just too hard to undo.
For example, like, you know, some of the deportations, things like that.
Yeah.
You can't do reportations.
No, you can't.
I mean, we're a deportation family, not a reportation.
Yeah, or like doing away with DEI.
It's going to take a very long time for them to re-implement that.
That can always happen.
That's always the danger of the executive order.
I do think he's been pretty strategic in picking ones that have a quantifiable effect that would be pretty difficult to simply undo.
Yeah.
You can make a lot of progress on these things, too.
Yeah, like the executive order stating that there are two genders.
The United States recognizes only two genders.
It would be pretty crazy for someone to come in and go, here's an executive order that says there are way more than two genders.
Yeah.
Here's an executive order that actually we don't have an official language.
That's what someone would have to do.
Yeah, it would look insane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Someone had to come in and change the name of a Gulf of America back to Gulf of Mexico.
Right.
And that would be.
An American president would have to do that.
Right.
What an insane, like it, everyone on the left thought it was insane to switch it to America.
But at least you can say, if you're on the left, you can say, well, well, I get it is for his country, I guess.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But going in and going like, I'm going to change it to a different country.
I'm going to change it back to Mexico.
You guys can call whatever the hell is that?
That's insane.
You can't even justify it.
Our Gulf.
We have more territory on the Gulf anyway.
Yeah.
Some of these things are just, you can't justify changing it back with another executive order.
Or you can't justify it without people just flat out understanding now that we're anti-American.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh, yeah, no official language.
It's now Gulf of Mexico.
And what's the other thing you're going to do?
200 genders?
Whoa, okay.
How many genders?
Yeah, you don't care about this country.
No.
And I think there is a fair point to be made right now that there are a lot of people in Congress not really doing their jobs.
Yes.
We're seeing some of that play out right now.
There's a bunch of GOP Congress people in the White House talking with the administration right now.
And I look, I mean, part of the process is you negotiate with people, but people have drawn a line in the sand and they've said, just raising the debt ceiling is my line and I'm not going to do that.
And I get that this bill is not perfect in a lot of different ways, but it's the kind of stuff that we're talking about.
It seems like nothing ever really gets done unless it gets done on the other side.
They just play a different game than we play.
And I'm just really tired of that game being played.
That's why I get pissed off so much at people like Rand Paul and Massey, even though I know they're sticking to what they believe their principles are.
It's just not matching up with reality.
Right.
When they just oppose and just oppose and just oppose.
Yep.
I just don't, I get it, but that's not the world that we live in.
It's a libertarian mindset.
It's a mind virus.
Yeah.
It's very, very easy to increase spending when you're in government.
It's very hard to peel it back.
It is.
So we have to all be rolling this out.
I wish it wasn't, though.
I wish that their world, the world that existed in their heads existed in reality.
I really do.
I just don't think it's even possible to create.
It goes against human nature.
Right.
So if you're going to do this, you have to do it more strategically than just flipping a switch because literally, do it tomorrow.
Rand Paul, everything you want, balanced budget tomorrow.
You will not win another election as long as you live.
Your kids will probably not see Republicans in office as long as they live.
Is that what you're really trading for?
For three years of a balanced budget?
Yeah.
Like that's what you're willing to give up?
Yeah.
Okay.
Especially when people have been so conditioned to go, oh, this free stuff, this works.
They need to see some wins.
They need to see some progress on the other side.
Like, oh, I guess we didn't really, I guess we didn't really need it.
Oh, wow.
I guess there was a lot of bloat.
But you can't just overnight go, yeah, yeah, by the way, all this was a lie.
A lot of people believe that lie.
Yeah.
All right.
I want it gone too.
Don't get me wrong.
I got tied up in my phone corner.
Next.
Sorry.
Next chat from Pedro the Mexican, 15.
Question for the crew.
With America turning to Trump, Britain turning to reform, and Europe turning, quote, far right, do you see an end to leftist ideology in the coming years?
How can it survive?
Well, no, they're not turning far right.
You're seeing a rise of people who are right-leaning who would be considered moderates in the United States, but in Europe, that's considered far-right.
So I wouldn't use that term almost ever.
You never even hear me use that term.
You hear me say right-wing, you hear me say conservative, and then separate, for example, if there are actual white supremacists, you know, like the half-dozen that exist.
I think that's the point they're making, is that like that, it's a good thing, like comparison.
They call it the far right, but that's really just a lot of people.
Yeah, I just wouldn't use the term.
I wouldn't use the term far-right.
I don't think there's enough in Europe.
Yeah, they have the problem we talked about yesterday with a third party.
They have, well, oftentimes more than three parties in some of these European countries where, like you said, you could be voted into power with 25% of the vote just because there's six parties collecting all these votes.
Yeah.
Well, just look at what happened with Polyvre in Canada.
Polyevre.
And he's a Nambi-Pamby, right?
That's considered far right in Canada.
And then it goes back because those people, look, outside of the United States, the rest of the world, and unfortunately, because they've been enabled by the United States, see NATO, see all technological advancements of the last hundred years, these people have chosen comfort.
They have chosen comfort.
And until they're rattled, they will always revert to comfort.
And so some of them might go, you know what?
I'm not super comfortable right now.
I feel like maybe this is too oppressive.
Let me try right.
And they go, well, you know what, though?
Let me go back.
So I don't think there's a whole lot of hope for Europe.
And so I think it's more important for us to divest from Europe in a lot of ways in places like Canada so that that cancer doesn't spread to us.
I hope so.
I think in the United States, you could see, you could see, I don't think an end to the left, but you could see maybe if the Democrats were smart, them have to fundamentally change the party.
They're going to have to.
Yeah, if we continue with this momentum and Gen Z, if they want to win anyone back, they are going to have to change the trajectory they are on where, hey, maybe for the first time, what the left has been claiming for a while could actually become true.
They go, well, the left has gone right and the right has gone far right.
No, it's the exact opposite.
It's the exact opposite for crying out loud.
Just compare JFK to Kamala Harris and then compare Donald Trump, for example, to Ronald Reagan.
Donald Trump, more moderate than Ronald Reagan on a lot of issues, certainly more moderate than Nixon on a lot of issues, and they would be pretty much in line.
Compare JFK to Kamala Harris or Joe Biden for Crying Out Loud, a guy who was rapidly anti-communist.
Do you have any idea how JFK would feel about Bernie Sanders?
Oh, geez.
I'm not even saying that JFK was a conservative or a Republican.
He's not, but he shares nothing in common with today's Democrat Party.
Donald Trump shares a lot in common, even going back to Nixon.
Ironically enough, I think the next three and a half, four years, this time period could be a nice time for the Democratic Party to, you know, nonchalantly shift more to the right.
Yeah.
Where like cultural norms are changing, everything's with Mamdani, if he, you know, probably going to win New York if he wins New York with Trump as the president, seeing that contrast like you talked about earlier this week, I think people will go, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is, we need to focus on this.
Not so much going, we need to focus less on the other cultural bullshit, like the tranny movement and, you know, all the race war stuff they're trying to start, but more of like, okay, we need to embrace this, embrace that, and appear to be more moderate.
And I think, you know, maybe run a man in 2028 might help.
Might help.
It worked in 2020, plus the cheating.
But, you know, I think, ironically enough, it'll be a little transition that they'll try to sneakily do.
Just think of some issues, too, I think, culturally that's really telling.
I mean, we were told for the longest time, like, well, Christianity, it's just going to go away.
It's going to be a relic of the past.
And now you're seeing it starting to grow more, and particularly the Orthodox Church in a lot of ways.
And that tells you that people are looking for some pretty, well, they're growing faster.
Non-denominational churches are losing.
Five to 10, whatever.
All right.
But the point, like, just take porn as an issue.
Growing up, right?
There was not a single young person ever who would say, hey, you know, porn is really wrong.
Like, you might have, you have some kids at Youth Group, right, who, by the way, were becoming more and more of a minority.
Now, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't acknowledge at least some of the negative ramifications of pornography.
Now, we're not talking about verification ID stuff, but you have a lot of young people like, yeah, of course, I look at porn.
Of course I do because I'm a guy, but I know that it's not very good.
It's probably not a healthy thing.
So people at least now recognizing that some moral backbone is necessary for society.
The left has always, if you look at history, it's been more sex, promiscuity, more porn, more decadence.
And young people are going, this isn't fulfilling and it's really pretty hollow.
So for the left to fight, well, to fight change within their party, they would still have to be fighting for porn.
They would still have to be fighting for as many sexual partners as possible.
They would still have to be fighting for being an anti-family party.
And that's also just not the way the winds are blowing culturally.
So that's a really good thing.
I just use that as an example.
Just porn.
There has been a foundational shift on the perception of porn.
Well, there are a lot of things.
And I was being sarcastic on the Orthodox Church.
I think that's absolutely true.
What people are doing is they're seeing the hollowness of so many Protestant churches.
I'm a Protestant myself, but you've got to be able to call out what you see.
And a lot of it's the feminist influence in the churches.
And it's about a feeling and an emotion and not a true relationship with God.
And they're seeing through that and going, like, this is just hollow.
Like, you guys go to church and you do all these performative things and then you're not any different during the week than anybody else.
So, well, who has something different?
Well, Catholicism sometimes is a draw, but Orthodox right now is seen as kind of like, well, at least that's, I don't understand it as much.
It's not as comfortable as what I'm used to, but it does seem authentic.
It seems very real and I'm very attracted to that.
So just going back really quickly, I don't want to dismiss the far right movements, the true far-right movements that are on the rise in Europe right now in certain places.
And I think a lot of it is some of the stuff we've talked about.
The rebound effect on stuff like this, when you call everybody racist, when they aren't, you're creating racists, not just by calling them that, but people are like, fine, screw it.
At this point, you're going to call me a racist anyway.
Maybe I really am now.
Maybe because you let Black Lives Matter stuff go on in the summer of love and all that, maybe I am a little racist now is what a lot of people say.
Same thing with uncontrolled immigration in Europe.
They're seeing it and going, you know what?
Fine.
I had racist tendencies to begin with.
Europe is really racist.
People don't realize that.
Very racist countries over there.
They're like, screw it.
You're letting a bunch of people in that we don't like.
Yeah, we should shoot people at the border now.
That's what some people say.
I think it was the finance minister in Greece or something like that.
Is that the border of Turkey?
Well, you know why?
Because they've come from a dynamic where they don't have a constitutional republic like we do.
So it's, hey, the left is in control.
We have to seize power.
So it does breed more extremism.
Just look at, for example, like Chile.
You go from Allende to Pinochet.
And most people in Chile still like Pinochet.
Like, I wish I could go back to Pinochet because at least we had economic growth in this country.
So they don't have what we have here as far as a system of checks and balances.
So their only option is to seize power, which makes something more, you know, makes them more far right because they don't have the levers to pull that we do here.
And we never want to get to that point here in the United States, which is why it's so important at this moment in history that Democrats are not in power because they wanted to remove your ability.
They wanted to complete, let's be really clear about this.
The last 12 years, Democrats, they had a plan and they were almost there.
They missed it by that much to basically render this place no longer a Democratic republic at all.
They wanted your vote not to count.
It was bring in as many people from third world countries as possible, give them as much free stuff as possible to buy their vote, give them a direct path to citizenship, count them in the census, have no voter ID.
All of that, if you live in Arizona, if you live in Pennsylvania, if you live in Michigan, Wisconsin, pick the swing states, your vote doesn't matter anymore.
They've now effectively rendered it just a one-party country because they purchased votes.
That was the plan all along.
And there were enough of you who said, you know what?
No, I think we need a course correct.
This is a very important moment in American history.
People were saying before this election, maybe the most consequential election of our lifetime.
And this is why the same thing when people say, Iran, they talk about it and impeach Donald Trump.
You were saying before this election that it may be the most consequential election of our lifetime.
I said it and I believed it.
And the big reason for that, especially in a post-COVID world, was the demographics.
And I don't mean brown, black, or white.
I mean immigration and 20 million or so people coming here.
And we knew it was only going to, and if Donald Trump didn't win, you know that number would be 30 or 40 million at least by the end of this term.
And the United States very realistically could have ceased to be.
And everyone has been saying for a long time, we're teetering on the edge here, man.
Once these demographics shift, once you have people coming from countries where they don't value freedom, where they don't value democracy, where they have no semblance of Western values.
Once they outnumber the people who are here who do, you lose your country.
Remember hearing all empires crumble from within?
People saying we're at that same point like the Roman Empire, making those comparisons.
And then when that pivotal issue, and I do mean a pivotal issue, so we would have gone from whatever it is, the numbers, 15, 20 million, depending on the numbers you use, to 30 or 40 million, right?
Done.
Game set match.
But now we're deporting them and people aren't coming in.
That is a huge course correction.
It's what gives this nation now a fighting fucking chance.
And so when people say, before Donald Trump even carried out any military action on Iran, about which he's been remarkably consistent, I'm not going to go through all of that again, but saying, impeach the man.
I don't know how you go from this is the most important election of our lifetime.
And the demographic shifts, people coming in from third world countries and votes being purchased and no voter ID and what will be codified into law.
We will lose this nation forever.
It was a good run, United States of America.
This is the most pivotal election ever.
Two, he's not doing exactly what I want, even though he told me this is what he would do when he ran for office.
So impeach him.
You wonder why I get fired up?
Because I've been here to watch this whole show.
I didn't come to this party late.
Was it the most important election of our lifetime?
Why?
Was it because of the immigration issue?
Was it because of the inflate?
Was it because of the now centralizing of the economy issue where we were ceasing to be the United..
Was it the First Amendment issue?
The Second Amendment issue?
The immigration?
Most important election of our lifetime on those foundational issues.
And then you say, yeah, it was the most important election, but impeach him because he took out a strike that we he carried out a strike that we knew he would with no casualties against a nation who deserved it.
I will never forget, ever, ever forget the people who said impeach Donald Trump after telling you that this was the most important election of our lifetime.
And that's not hero worship, to be clear.
The guy is flawed.
I have things that I, I had things that I didn't like about him and I have things that I still don't like about him, to be clear, okay?
But when I said, and I think most people in here, if not everyone, said this is the most important election of our lifetime, and we spent millions of dollars to cover it so the fraud wouldn't occur in darkness again, and we cheer on the monumental changes to our immigration system here, which is flawed, porous by design, a planned and designed and executed invasion of the American people.
When I said this is the most important election of our lifetime, guess what?
I meant it.
And so when I'm excited to see that corrected, and I think that's important, I mean it.
I don't know how someone can mean it, see where we are, and then say, impeach him.
Unless those people who say, I regret voting for Donald Trump, I regret telling people to vote for Donald Trump, impeach Donald Trump, unless they come out and say, it's got away from me.
I got a little carried away and I lost sight of the bigger picture.
I will never forget that shit because this was a country hurtling, hurtling to the edge of that cliff.
We were about to go over.
And this is, again, not hero worship.
George Washington, deeply flawed man, of course.
Do I think that that man was consequential?
And do I think that that man changed the course of history for the better?
Absolutely.
If I happened to be alive during George Washington's time, would I have found policy differences?
I guarantee you I would have.
But I wouldn't say impeach him.
Since at least the 1940s, this is the most consequential time that I have lived through in American history.
What I said before the election, I meant.
During, I meant.
We left nothing for the swim back.
Thank you for supporting us.
We were here with you.
And when I say it now, I mean it.
For this to be the most consequential election, for this to be the most consequential administration in our lifetime, it would require the most consequential betrayal of our lifetime for me to say, we're better off with the direction we were headed.
We're better off on the path that we were on.
It's not a game to play here.
All this stuff, I get it, the political theater.
But as far as, hey, do we want to have a country?
Do you want your vote to count?
Do you want your children's vote to count?
Then don't play with fire with the impeachment game for social media clicks.
Keep that in mind.
Go see Josh Feierstein live because we're going to be gone, but you can go see him live and get your fix.
Is it Jay Feierstein?
JFeierstein.com.
JFeierstein.com.
Talking with people Monday and the following Monday where, yep, you hear little old me tell people with a slightly darker shade of skin that we don't want you, but you'll understand why when you see it.
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