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April 29, 2020 - Louder with Crowder
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The Man Behind the COVID-19 Panic! | Ep 672 Louder with Crowder
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You're a strange animal, that's what I know You're a strange animal, I come to follow
I'm a strange animal That's called the virtual fighter slash Tekken slash Dead
or Alive Remember they used to do that in the video game?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like they really wanted to let you know that it had human-like motions, and half of the fight was just starting to be going like...
Yeah.
A lot of showboating.
By the way, on the show today, we have Dave Rubin with a new book.
Lovely, lovely gentleman.
Rube.
Wonderful little sprite.
And then we have a half-Asian lawyer.
Bill Richmond is here.
Hey.
Corridor Black Garrett, audio way.
Hey, what's going on?
Too Cute Maddie makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
She's so cute.
And G. Morgan Jr., how are you, sir?
Well, how are you?
You don't have a wine?
No!
This is technically kind of our last Thursday show, because this Thursday is the finale to Mug Club Quarantine Month.
Again, you can enter in the promo code QUARANTINE to get $30 off at louderwithcreditor.com slash mug club.
But this Thursday, we'll be watching a live press briefing, then fact-checking CNN for three hours or four hours.
I don't know.
Oh, Lord.
Can we put a limit on it, please?
Well, I'll tap out at some point.
The only reason to shoot him longer is because we just wanted to make it to Cuomo.
Oh.
Yeah.
Because that's really where the jokes are gonna land.
When I'm hoping his wife is a guest.
Crystal?
Is that her name?
Uh, what is her name?
Christina?
That's a cartoon character!
Chris and Christina Cuomo.
Uh, Chris?
Christina!
Sorry, Christina?
Chris!
Whatever.
Who is on first?
You know we've got giveaways on Thursday.
That's right, we have giveaways on Thursday.
We have a ton of guests.
We're going to have Donald Trump Jr.
I believe we have, who else do we have on the show on Thursday?
Hodge Twin, Brian Cowan, Nick DiPaolo, maybe Greg Abbott.
I'm not entirely sure.
Oh, that would be great.
But it's going to be a lot of fun.
It's going to be big.
And then of course tomorrow is Good Morning Mug Club and we have our live in studio Jocko roast.
Jocko one.
That's right.
We have our Jocko correspondent there.
Very nice.
Who's phone is that?
Whose phone is that?
Who do I have to crucify upside down in a peace symbol that is what they used to paint on the churches that Bolsheviks managed to successfully close?
Wow.
Wait, that's all we're getting?
We need more phone rings?
I cannot confirm that, but there are multiple theories as to what the piece means.
We do have a few people, just so you know, in the live audience.
It's like five people in the corner here.
So my question of the day is at this point, before we move on, we will be talking about the man behind the number of 2.2 million deaths.
For those who are keeping a tally, not even close.
No.
Right.
So seeing how the experts got this so wrong, how much more or less likely are you to believe them the next time?
So I don't want YouTube or Facebook to remove this like they have content from actual doctors who are out there in the field.
You know, our heroes.
But not if they speak out about their actual antibody testing.
Are you concerned at all that this is going to prevent people from being prepared in the future because they'll look back on this and say, but you're the boy who cried coronavirus.
You're the boy who cried coronavirus.
It works better that way.
We'll move on.
We'll talk about all of that and why these models weren't accurate versus real world data that we have available to us now.
But first, don't be this broad.
You won't get arrested if the cops come.
Wait, can we go over there?
Is that crazy enough for you?
Can we go over there?
You are closed!
The whole area!
Get it through your thick head!
You are the reason we are in this situation!
You are the problem!
Karen's got a Karen.
What happened to holding hands?
We are the world!
I'm trying to save your life goes to die.
I'm not just trying to save your ass and save your life.
But die, okay?
I hope both of you get the coronavirus.
I hope you both die a long, painful death.
Oh lord.
What happened to holding hands? We are the world.
I'm trying to save your life goes to die.
I'm trying to save your life before I send you to hell!
I didn't think she believed it, Al.
So that I may kill you!
Did anyone else think that that looked like Bradley Cooper from Silver Linings Playbook, where he's like jogging around in a white sweatsuit?
Yeah, a little bit.
I don't know, and I don't believe in hitting women.
So in North Carolina... That's a good thing.
It's fake.
In related news... We'll get to the modeling in a little bit.
But first, in North Carolina, a woman actually... People are going crazy right now.
They're getting a little stir crazy.
This happened in North Carolina.
A woman opened fire on cell tower workers.
Hundreds of feet in the air.
This comes from a local affiliate.
Susan Moose has been charged with assault with a deadly weapon, or she was, after court documents state that she fired a .22 revolver at a cell phone tower worker.
Should be noted all charges were dropped, however, when authorities learned that the man in question worked for Sprint.
Justifiable homicide.
Not a SoftBank guy.
Little bit of stock market humor.
Little bit of Nasdaq.
Experts, by the way, they're saying that dogs could get extreme separation anxiety when this quarantine ends.
And this comes from the New York Post.
With such an overload of quality time with their families, dogs are building up a huge reservoir of over-dependency.
They're concerned about that.
Now, the veterinary experts in question, they did note, however, that on the other side of the spectrum, some canines will, in fact, just, quote, need some fucking space.
So that seems...
Hey, they can come to my house.
I told you, bits not kibble!
Also, Taylor Swift, by the way, cancelled all of her 2020 tour dates.
That's great news!
She cancelled both of them.
She cancelled both 2020 tour dates due to the coronavirus, and some are calling this the worst thing to happen to Taylor Swift fans since the AIDS epidemic.
That's tough on them, yeah.
Yeah, it is.
It's a tough day.
It hits them the hardest.
Liza Minnelli fans.
2021 is coming to us.
By the way, this is something that, have you been following the outrage recently of the Star Wars, how they've sort of been going social justice?
I don't, I have a wife.
Wait, wait, wait.
They've been getting a lot of trouble right now because they've been trying to push people left and use Star Wars, I guess.
You've been telling me about this, Quarterback.
It sucks.
As like a platform.
Yeah, we're putting all kinds of SJW stuff in there.
So the new Star Wars writers, the feminist writers, they actually want to, and they talked about this, I think we have a clip, they want more diverse representation and they also want to learn how to be better allies.
I think it's worth it if you're in a position of hiring power or green lighting power to reach out to people that are not like you and say, what can I do to be an ally?
Yeah.
That's Harvey Weinstein's secretary, by the way.
Really?
I worked at Weinstein for six years.
Oh!
Wow.
What a surprise.
She's moved on, yeah.
And she's a lesbian.
She is a lesbian, yeah.
I just think she's safe.
I think that was the case she made to Weinstein.
Do all straight women have to service you into a plastic ficus?
I'm a lesbian.
So, it should be noted, these producers, these writers that have been making the runs, they are satisfied with their diverse, allied representation in the upcoming prequel, Star Wars, The Empire Sucks C**k. Oh, Jesus.
Look at that.
I was going back and rewriting history.
Come on, Jesus.
Feel the force running through you.
No!
Really dumb.
Is that how Africans ever place the lightsabers on dildos?
I'm gonna get all that gumboises.
I apologize.
But I don't!
So terrible.
So you may have seen... This is a great last Thursday show on a Tuesday.
Oh, we're burning it down, baby!
Half of these were scrapyard.
And they should have stayed there.
Oh, yes.
So you may have seen this, by the way.
AOC, you know, she thinks... This is a clip that's been making the rounds, but for context, we need to reintroduce it that she thinks people should never go back to work.
When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot of people should just say, no, we're not going back to that.
Okay.
So we make fun of her.
We do.
How does this woman, how much are you representative?
Do you think the founding fathers ever took this into account?
They could have never seen this coming.
I mean, if they could get into a horse buggy DeLorean and travel to today and see AOC, we're going to have to make some changes.
Alright guys, get a new piece of paper.
The idiots are coming!
The idiots are coming!
Does anyone wonder, I mean, she keeps saying don't go back to work, but isn't that what communism requires?
That you have to have a certain number of people who are working?
Right.
But what is the whole, like, we're not gonna work thing?
You know, I don't think she, it's lost on her, obviously, and that's a salient point, but the irony is lost on her also that she'd be dead because they killed the retarded.
It's a calling.
We do make fun of her, obviously, but AOC, she does have, to her credit, a long history of speaking out against oppressive, tyrannical rulers.
She's a regular Daniel in the Lion's Den.
Boy, that bitch sure can talk.
Yeah, it's like, we get it.
Twelve years, famines, pestilence.
Get a new thing, lady.
Yeah.
Alright, well, uh, just check back tomorrow and see if God protects her or whatever.
Sunrise o'clock!
Alright, see ya.
Oh, pull it from under.
See if God protects her or whatever.
You see?
This is the new Brendan Living Translator.
I'd read that one.
Very eloquent, yes.
Man, I feel like I'm back in youth group, just reading that New Kids Bible.
Really?
Your youth group was a problem.
I just had those precious moments, folks.
I just read the inside of Creed album covers.
I assumed that was God speaking to me.
Turns out it was just a free ticket for their reunion tour.
Hey, what are the tweets of the week there, Court of Black Carrot?
Look, we got so much stuff.
A lot of wishes for good mornings.
A lot of new Mug Clubbers getting their mugs.
Wow, look at that.
That one guy has a really red beard.
Good for him.
You know, he could have been a conquistador, that guy.
They had red beards?
They're white really?
Some of them were.
Some of them had red beards.
Are you assuming what race they are?
You ever been to Spain?
You ever been to Spain?
Do you know where Spain is?
It's not in Mexico.
I neither can confirm nor deny.
Is it in Ireland?
Spaniards have red hair?
You know this!
Come on Mr. International there!
I was pointing to you half-Asian Bill, you're the only international.
I was just laughing at the wine guy not knowing where Spain is.
No, but I reject your premise.
I know where Spain is located.
You reject that Spaniards can have red hair?
No, I don't.
I have no idea.
What are you arguing?
Don Quixote, you're swinging at windmills, man!
I'm actually swinging at you.
Well.
I'm missing, that's the problem.
Yeah, you're missing big time.
I will be your windmill.
Who was the Sancho Panza?
He was his little sidekick, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sancho Panza, the original Ed McMahon, showed up to those windmills with a big-ass check.
Always good for a laugh.
I was born in the wrong time.
You guys remember, well a lot of you probably have forgotten, but don't you, I remember, I remember when the death toll was going to be 2.2 million.
Way back.
Way back, what started all of this, right?
It was going to be 2.2 million deaths in the United States, 500,000 in the UK.
Those were the numbers that we heard and we had to act now, just in case you think I'm making it up.
The British, rocked by a startling UK report warning of a catastrophic epidemic.
The same research suggesting without any action, 2.2 million Americans could die.
If the U.S.
doesn't take these steps, 2.2 million Americans could die.
Peter Navarro, who you saw on our air yesterday, he wrote two memos trying to warn the White House that coronavirus could cost the country trillions of dollars and kill up to 2 million Americans.
In this fight against a pandemic that the White House has been warned could kill over 2 million Americans, more Americans than died at every war since 1776.
Without the strict social distancing, that number could be as high as 2 million Americans.
I realize what Scarborough looks like.
It looks like a hedgehog.
Yes!
Like the little eyes.
Like, hey, do you want food?
And it just rolls up and looks at you.
And then you want to scratch it.
Do you want Mika?
Do you want to pretend to be a conservative?
I don't like him.
So, just to be clear, the virus is not, but that 2.2 million number was a hoax.
The number was a hoax.
2.2 million, Bigfoot, Kavanaugh rape, Balloon Boy.
Cavities.
Wait, Balloon Boy's not real?
Still one of the greatest moments in television history.
Do you remember that, when the dad was interviewed?
What happened?
They asked the son.
He goes, well, he told me to go hide in the closet.
The dad's like, yeah.
I'm going to prison.
He's thinking about some minimum security resort.
What a nut, that kid.
That kid ruined it for his whole family.
They could have had one hell of a book deal.
I want to be clear.
Where did this number come from?
Because this was ubiquitous, right?
This is the number that everybody believed, and we had to act, and we had to take drastic measures because 2.2 million, and we know the numbers.
It couldn't be possible in the United States if you actually look at our demographics and you look at the media.
It's not a possibility here in the United States.
It could have never been a possibility.
But let me introduce you to the founder of the Feast, the man who came up with this number, Dr. Neil Ferguson from the Imperial College in London.
He is the one, again, responsible for the 2.2 million Americans will die number.
Here he is advocating, you know, China-style lockdowns.
I will now speak with Professor Neil Ferguson, Director of the Abdul Latif Jameel Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics, or JIDE for short.
Beyond those smaller outbreaks, one has to adopt the sort of community measures which have been adopted, particularly in places like Wuhan in China, where you try to reduce contacts between people in the community.
Did that camera suck his soul out of his body?
He blends in with the pasty background.
Wuhan.
Yeah, and did you see this thing on CNN where they're actually sending people to Wuhan and we're supposed to celebrate how people are able to go to work?
They're reopening!
Yeah, the wet markets and all this.
We should only reopen it as the next Hiroshima.
Is it Hiroshima?
Hiroshima?
I've heard both.
I think point was made.
The point is Terminator 2.
That's what I want to see.
In Wuhan.
Of course, clear it out first.
We'll drop some leaflets.
Sanitization.
Can you send me as a correspondent?
Yes, that would be awesome.
Apparently Bill just admitted suicide.
I hope you don't have a life insurance policy.
I already bought a ticket.
I'm ready to go.
Have you ever been to Wuhan?
Nope, never been.
You've been to Hong Kong though, right?
I've been many times.
Does anyone go to Wuhan?
Do they have any tourist industry?
No, it doesn't exist.
I can't imagine.
Just bats and diseases.
Well, there's a biological hazard.
I heard it's nice this time of year.
Studying lab.
So why is this important?
Well, it's important because it's a number that we all use, but there's a real pattern here.
Again, while we're talking about Doctor... I keep forgetting his name.
I know Dr. Neil.
You know what?
From now on, I'm going to call him Neil for short.
Neil deGrasse Tyson.
This guy has a pattern.
So we'll start with the coronavirus.
But this is important because everyone has used him, they've cited him.
And I think this is important to keep in mind when we talk about the experts.
Because everyone says this, whether you're talking about climate change, even if you're just saying, hey, listen, I believe the Earth is warming.
I believe that human beings are contributing to it.
I don't believe that the Paris Agreement will necessarily change it.
The same case where they say, well, right now, if you don't believe that 2.2 million Americans will die, well, then why are you questioning the experts?
Well, Let me present a case as to why sometimes you should question the experts and do your own due diligence.
So, let's look at the coronavirus numbers.
He came up with a 2.2 million number, and he refused to release the workings of the study.
The model is based on a 13-year-old code that is completely undocumented.
Okay?
I want to be clear about that.
And you know what else is, this is like the 77 cents on the dollar with Barack Obama when he was out there saying, women make 77, and you're going, does he not have access to even Bing, even if he doesn't have Google?
If he's in communist China, web crawler for crying out loud.
You wonder, hold on a second, why does nobody in power have the ability to question this number?
Because this is the source of the number and no one goes like, hey, yeah, what's your reference there?
Doesn't that matter if we're going to shut down economies?
And you know that he has no problem with it.
Let's go back through all of his other predictions, okay?
Consider an authority, an expert on the issue.
In 2009, this man, Dr. Neal, he estimated that swine flu had a 0.4% death rate.
Based on his advice, a government in the UK, they estimated 65,000 dead.
What actually happened, 457 deaths.
The death rate was 0.026%.
So that's a little bit off.
And for me, I put it in financial terms for you.
That's like saying you're going to make a million dollars in profit and making $7,000.
Yeah.
That'd be significant.
Just for some context.
That's going to be a crappy cruise!
Hope you bought it before the pandemic ceased.
Bird flu was another one he made a prediction.
I mean, you guys know.
Actually, as a matter of fact, I could say that for all of these.
Credit where credit's due, okay?
You can at least call us consistent.
The capital of virus.
So, the bird flu, again, Dr. Neal, what did he say?
He said in 2005, I believe, right, Neal?
Is that what he said?
Neil, is that what he said? In 2005? Yeah, 2005. He predicted 200 million bird flu deaths.
In 2005?
Wow.
People, not birds.
People.
Right, yes, people.
From bird flu.
Sorry, from bird flu.
I should have... I don't want to get fact-checked by who... I was screwing with him.
PETA, they're coming for you.
What happened to the good, or who, they just had a few upturned noses and some wire left from the Grinch.
Now they're dominating world economies.
Oh my gosh.
Screw them.
So the reality is there were only a few hundred in a decade, right, bird flu deaths.
Less than a hundred per year on average.
And keep in mind, by the way, because right now they say, well, we didn't hit 2.2 million.
We didn't hit 100 to 240,000 because of the lockdowns.
No, actually, the numbers were revised long before the social distancing could have taken effect.
And then again, you can look here at the bird flu.
This was done without massive lockdowns.
You were alive during the bird flu.
Do you remember this kind of a crash to the economy?
Do you remember everyone being forced to stay in place at home?
Yeah, no, it's kind of weird, too.
Dr. Ferguson seems like he needed to one-up the WHO.
Like, if they weren't quite wrong enough, they came out and said $150 million.
He's like, ha ha, I can beat that.
Yes.
I've got $200 million.
Just scream louder like a kid at a grade school Christmas pageant.
Like, he wants to- Did you hear me, Mom?
We did.
$2.2 million.
Go on.
Go on.
Let's go on down to Silent Night, okay?
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Here's another one.
Another prediction.
It was the, you know, what was it called?
Like the foot and mouth disease?
Yeah.
I don't know the virological nomenclature.
Epidemiological.
I just remember foot and mouth disease, which this guy does a lot.
The hoof and mouth.
So it was, he had a model, right, in his Imperial, a team at the Imperial College.
They suggested millions of farm animals, okay, would have to be killed to prevent the spread, even if at the point there was no evidence of infection, okay?
Now, what happened?
Animal disease.
Experts.
Keep in mind, experts.
So an expert said, hey, this is going to spread.
We have to kill all these animals.
And other experts said, well, okay, let's, massacre.
They said it looked like they had a culling.
It was necessary, right?
Because the model from, for example, it turns out that actually it was not necessary.
They didn't take into account the species composition of farms.
This is something that I read from some kind of, sort of an epidemiological study.
I don't really know what it means.
But I do know that it was too late.
Millions of animals had been killed.
It cost the British economy 10 billion, well actually 12.5 billion American dollars.
Sometimes in my head I have to convert it from Euros to Canadian dollars, and I have to convert it to American dollars by how much we paid for N64 games.
Why do you go to Canadian, and then down?
I was raised in a stupid place.
Why you gotta call him out, man?
You know he's from Canada.
Why you gotta rub it in his face?
You know, I thought he was past it.
It is disgusting.
He tries to forget about it.
This is all important, because even if you look at this right here, where they called these animals, right?
It cost 12.5 billion dollars.
It shows you that Dr. Neil, whose head comes to a point, is not...
He's not scared.
He has no problem with destroying an economy with panic.
He's done it in the past.
Exactly.
I think the bigger thing we're throwing at him is not the fact that he's a conehead, but that he's wrong in everything that he does.
But he is from the Imperial College.
The rest of the experts were just from regular universities.
But in this study, the reason that they ended up killing so many more animals is because they didn't realize how the virus would spread between different species.
That seems like a good point.
Be like, well, just the cows.
Well, now let's kill everything.
Chickens, cows, birds.
You have to learn the interspecies relationships.
That's how AIDS starts.
That's true.
Or flight attendants.
That was a good on-air correction.
Yeah, it was, yes.
I want to make sure I get it right.
Nice job.
And they're not servers, they're garcon.
Madison Ferguson made another prediction on mad cow disease.
He said 150,000 deaths from mad cow, right?
And this was based on the theory back then that British sheep, if you remember this, British sheep might be capable of spreading it.
Oh, yeah.
Now, to date, there have been fewer than 200 deaths from mad cow disease.
In the United Kingdom, none of which have been transmitted from sheep.
I think this guy just hates animals.
What's his deal?
Kill all the animals.
There's a disease kill all the animals Lay low for 40 years Imperial College, so it's a trump card
I'm sorry.
And then kill them all.
And I'll show your descendants.
Nice.
You think with a track record like this, one of two things would happen.
One, he would shut up.
Or two, people would stop listening to him.
But two days ago, he makes a prediction that there would be over 100,000 deaths in the UK if they open and isolate 80% of the elderly and immunocompromised people.
If they were successful at doing that, there'd still be over 100,000 deaths in the UK.
So he's making yet another terrible prediction.
By the way, you guys, we don't have enough time to run all the clips.
You can go watch the news.
They're talking about this non-stop on CNN and BBC right now.
They still are citing this guy.
Keep in mind, this is patient zero.
You trace it all the way back.
Where did the 2.2 million come from?
This.
It came from this guy.
Just like the 77 cents on the dollar came from one study.
All that comes from is taking the average salary of men across all different lines of work, regardless of hours worked, regardless of education, compared it with women.
It's that sentence, and people go, well, no, no, there must be something more to it, right?
Because experts wouldn't get it that wrong, would they?
The guy killed all the sheep!
Well, and I wonder at what point, really, at what point do you stop listening to this guy?
How many times do you have to be wrong by hundreds of thousands of people, by 99% of your estimates?
By the way, I appreciate you, he's playing this, like, politically right now.
No, it is millions.
He's off by millions of coronavirus.
I know, because we have a general rule here, don't exaggerate, use the most conservative number.
Millions.
He's off by millions, I stand corrected.
Right now he's off by 2.15 million with his 2.2 million predictions.
By the way, did you see in that report that British agency or whoever was saying it, like, saying, you know, 560,000 deaths in the UK but the big stat was the deaths in the UK?
Like, we don't put your stats, like, bigger than ours.
Don't you care about your own people first?
But it's like bold.
It's because the United States matters more, I guess.
Everyone cares about us more.
I appreciate that acknowledgement, by the way.
It's absolutely true.
How much do you guys know about Canada right now?
Well, yeah, more than I need to.
Do you know what's going on at Degrassi these days?
Anyone following it since Drake left?
I don't think so.
Is he still on Degrassi?
That's a fair point.
No, I don't think so.
I have no idea.
Is the show still on?
Is he a part-timer?
I have no idea.
Is Canada still around?
When I was in Canada, I didn't watch Degrassi.
It was Americans who kept Degrassi because of the novelty of how crappy it was.
Canadians didn't care.
I don't know.
And this is something that I think is important.
There is, listen, we had, and I want to be clear, I think we all, well, actually I think
some of you guys here wanted to pull me back a little bit initially.
I was like, I think this is crap.
I was with you.
You did too.
And actually you thought it was partially crap, but you were like, let's play it safe
because we don't want to get fact checked on air.
And I will say that you were more, looking back, you were more correct about how overblown
I was like, oh, we should question some stuff.
But I was definitely more drinking the Kool-Aid.
And you were like, I don't know.
We'll just check back in 60 days.
No, you were drinking my whiskey straight from the bottle.
I was like, what?
And you're like, ah, Jameson kills it.
I'm like, I don't think that it does.
Hey, I asked Trump.
Listen, I don't drink, but if you're going to, Trump Vodka.
If we could get it into your lungs.
I'm saying Waterboard Bill with Trump Vodka.
I think that in the absence of data, it was prudent to take some precautionary measures.
Sure.
When we didn't know.
Now keep in mind, the absence of data, that's where people were reaching for numbers, and they said, whoa, 2.2 million.
And I still think we should have quarantined the sick.
You can go back, and I said, why don't we just quarantine old people and sick people?
And now people are saying that.
Back then, people were saying, ah, you monster.
I'm like, listen, take any time throughout history.
Go back through, I don't know, times around Christ.
There are no pits of non-lepers.
You quarantine the lepers!
You don't throw in the non-lepers.
You don't keep them separate and let the lepers run free.
This is what you do.
You don't quarantine the sick.
But at one point we had hypothetical numbers.
We needed to work with these models.
And as a matter of fact, actually, if you go to the website, we didn't work with those models.
There were plenty of other epidemiologists who were experts who were just considered contrarians who said, this really doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't add up.
And we tried to cover that.
We just have to be careful because big tech gets together and they will remove videos.
the videos from these what were the names of those doctors from Los Angeles was it Los Angeles County
five million plays five million plays they had several thousand people who they've actually
tested for antibodies and they were saying the death rate is 0.1 percent yep got removed from
Facebook because it violated guidelines oh it's fake according so we've had to try and be
consistent we've had to try and be authentic but also we've had to try and navigate Facebook,
YouTube, Twitter who by the way take their marching orders directly from the World Health
Organization who said by the way not that long ago that it couldn't be transmitted through human
to human contact.
Oops.
So when you're using them as your Washington Post or Snopes or Southern Poverty Law Center fact-checkers, at what point do you say, you know what?
Maybe the contrarians are right, because it doesn't take a scientist or an expert to have studied any virus ever and said, you know what?
I think that if you start fondling someone who has it, that's a bad idea.
It's a slippery slope.
It's a sweaty, clammy slope.
It is.
Is there sniffing involved?
So we have...
If you're the vice president, of course.
Former vice president.
Soon to be dead.
Not a threat.
No.
I just mean that it's a degenerative disease.
And I take no pleasure in it.
Oh boy, that got really quick.
He'll be fine!
He doesn't know he's crazy!
Just one debate.
I just want to see one.
He will find any reason to avoid Donald Trump.
Zero debates.
But I think what we're seeing right now is we're seeing the theoretical, unfortunately, clashing with the real world.
So it's theoretical, we could lose 2.2 million lives.
We could.
Now we're going to revise it.
We could lose 100,000 to 240,000 lives.
We could have whatever, how many tens of millions of people are infected.
Though that's actually something that seems like it's probably accurate.
Though they don't want to report on that now because then all of a sudden that lowers the death rate.
So we could have those.
But now we have real world data where we've tested people for antibodies.
What do we have?
We have New York City, Los Angeles County, Santa Clara County.
We have Miami-Dade County.
We have Chelsea in Massachusetts.
We have a few more.
I don't have them off the top of my head.
Every single Every single one has revised their mortality rate to 0.5 to 0.1% and that's including the 95% of whom are people over the age of 80 and have pre-existing conditions.
Every single one that has run these studies.
So you can even say maybe they're getting too many false positives with these antibody tests.
Okay, let's double it.
The people who said this is more comparable to the flu were so much closer than the experts who said 4 to 7 percent, it's laughable.
And we have real-world data now in that we see how many people have died.
We see how communicable it is.
We don't know the extent of that, but by the way, all testing shows us between 4 to 6 percent.
4 to, I think, 6.5 percent, depending on the county.
That means that far more people have been affected.
We have real-world data now.
What is it, 22 million?
Are we at 24 million jobless claims at this point?
I thought it was higher than that.
It could be significantly higher than that.
We have real-world data now that 1 in 5 suicides is linked to unemployment.
We have real-world data now that we've crippled economies.
We have real-world data now that 36% of retail industries might not reopen after this economy.
And that is clashing with the theoretical which we know is verifiably false, but unfortunately, big tech and their overlords want to silence doctors right now who are out there Speaking to espousing the real world observable data at this point.
So at one time, sure, in the absence of data, I think it was prudent to take some precautionary measures.
But at this point, in the face of overwhelming data, it's a conspiracy and it's a hoax.
You don't have to rely exclusively on experts.
Sure, you should have wise counsel.
Everybody should have wise counsel.
But you should also do your own due diligence.
And certainly, when faced with theoretical data or real-world observable data, commonly referred to as actual science, go with the latter.
And I hope that we don't have the wool pulled over our eyes again.
OK, we have to get going.
Dave Rubin is going to be right up after this.
Ooh, fun.
So pretty So what can we get to the crazy where the dreams are in the
sky?
You got me high, you got me high Oh
Hi Hey.
I haven't seen you on the board.
Do you guys have Black Rifle coffee here?
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Well, it is great small-batch coffee.
Well, that really can't be unless it's fresh-roasted.
Well, it is fresh-roasted.
I don't think you know what that means.
You know what this is?
This is Masa Lekua Pique, which, of course, in the Indonesian language, it's weasel coffee.
You just made that up.
No, it's been passed through their digestive tract.
That's disgusting.
And then it's nature's wet processing.
Yeah, but is it good?
I mean, it's alright.
Are they investor philanthropists?
Do they support good causes?
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You know what?
Actually, I'm just gonna order it.
Let me get freshly roasted.
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Let's explain the trouble that I'm all in.
All in.
Let's explain...
Oh, right Glad to have her.
Well, we've had this gentleman on our show quite a bit.
And then I was on his show initially many years ago.
The reaction was not positive, but that's because he was I think he was sort of earlier on.
He had left the Young Turks and was becoming, I don't want to say more conservative, but was was speaking out against sort of the modern progressive left.
Taking that red pill.
Yes.
Yeah.
We don't use that term anymore because we're not Nazis, apparently.
So.
Apparently, those are only allowed at Bernie rallies.
So you can follow him on the Twitter at Ruben Report.
He hasn't been banned yet.
And of course, you know, he hosts a show over there at Blaze TV, and you get full access if you are a Mug Club member.
He has a new book, though, called Don't Burn This Book.
See what he did there?
I don't like it.
Self-referential.
Spoiler alert.
I burned it.
I did a little bit.
More so to test and see if it was flammable, but it's still worthwhile.
Mr. Gabe Rubin, how are you, sir?
Crowder, I'm doing good, and it's funny you gave me that kind of intro, because in the old days, when I had you on, whatever that was, like four years ago, I mean, it's kind of crazy.
It was like six.
We've been trying to do it in person, which is why I haven't had you on again, although at this point, you know, obviously we'll do it over Skype whenever you want.
But it's kind of funny because the hate that I got for having you on at the time when people thought I was a good lefty and I was just testing the waters with these scary conservatives, it's like that level of hate that I got then, that is barely a trickle Relative to the torrent that I became accustomed to over the last five years as I've sort of opened up politically and, you know, created some new alliances and said goodbye to some old thoughts and things like that.
So those were the good old days.
Well, you know, I think the reason for it, like obviously at that point, I think you'd had, you know, Milo was around and you had had a few guests who were sort of more right leaning, some were more libertarian.
But I just wanted to be honest.
I think what happened was you asked me about, you know, I was I was very straightforward about being pro-life and you asked me about same sex marriage.
And I said, yeah.
I don't, I think it's a state thing.
I said, I just don't, I don't think that the government should be in the church running business.
And I don't think that marriage is a fundamental human right for anyone.
Civil union, sure, but no.
And people just lost their mind.
And I remember talking, making the argument back then that, listen, the challenge with this, as we had in Canada, is once you declare marriage a fundamental human right, if churches or mosques or synagogues, if their religion doesn't recognize it, then they can be sued and jailed, as happened in Canada.
And of course, we've seen some of that now since with private businesses, so, um, what didn't mean that I didn't think that you're lovely, and I still do.
I mean, I don't know how lovely I think you are, but I think you are astute politically, and made a good point about the government's involvement in gay marriage, and the state argument's an interesting one, and I do a lot of state argument stuff in this book.
But of course, the broader point of if you want to live in a society with people that are different from you, and you want to allow people to have some religious beliefs, and some secular beliefs, and the whole freakin' thing, well you have to be able to, you don't have to, Actually respect their beliefs, but you have to let them have them.
So it's why I've been able to have a friendship with Ben Shapiro who takes an Orthodox Jewish perspective on gay marriage.
So guess what?
Ben's not gonna get gay married and that's okay.
Yeah.
And yet he's not coming for my marriage.
And that's the exchange that we have in such an incredibly beautiful way in America and more broadly in the West.
But I think specifically in America, we have something so unbelievably great here that so many people play with so dangerously as to how we could throw it away.
Yeah, I don't think people understand that this is uniquely American.
And being raised in Canada, I was very acutely aware of the fact that free speech was not a luxury that we had in Canada, and they certainly don't have it really anywhere in Europe.
So let me ask you this.
I know you talk about this in your book, and I want to get to how some of the writings in your book that you, I believe you finished last July, almost clairvoyant to what we're seeing now with states' rights as it relates to the COVID, the coronavirus, the flu, whatever you want to call it.
But when you started back then, you were sort of, you had left the left.
Right, and you were sort of disenchanted with the Young Turks and the radical progressive left, but where are you now?
Like, if you have to state what are you, after having toured with Jordan Peterson, more definitively, not what you've left, but what, who is Dave Rubin now, in his own words, like politically?
Oh, Crowder, getting to the heart of it right at the beginning.
I was always curious.
We both like dogs.
We could go on that, too.
I literally have a dog sleeping on my feet right now.
It's a great question.
I will answer it.
I will just say one thing first, which is that, you know, it's funny because when I started my show, so right around when I had you on at the beginning, so this is when I started the interview show, it was September of 2015.
So that's not that long ago.
It's less than five full years ago.
I at first never said I left the left.
I was really still fighting for my side, what I thought was my side.
I was going, guys, guys, we can't silence everybody, buddy.
We can't mob everybody.
We can't outrage, destroy everybody.
Let's be more open and actually liberal like we're supposed to be.
And then suddenly what happened was I found all of these other people that were having similar thoughts from a lefty perspective.
That then led me to all of the scary guys like you and Shapiro and Beck and everybody else.
Yes, I am a monster.
To truly answer your question, I would say, look, I lay out what I believe are classical liberal principles in this book that are the right principles to govern by, which are individual rights.
I want everybody that is a legal citizen of the United States to have exactly the same rights, regardless of your gender, your skin color, your sexual orientation, where you're from, etc., etc.
And then I want laissez-faire economics, that we should always try to do everything without government involvement.
And then I do recognize, and this is why I would say I'm not a full libertarian, I do recognize that sometimes, unfortunately, you have to have the government involved to put some guardrails around things.
Sorry, go ahead.
So I would say, look, I think that very much still fits in within the definition of a classical liberal, but am I trying to revive a phrase from several hundred years ago in a certain regard?
Because the word liberal, I always say this to you, it's like, when you talk about liberals, you mean leftists, but I get it.
The word liberal has just been, like, spattered and bludgeoned and whatever.
So I will say something that I haven't said before, but I've been thinking about a lot lately.
I would say, if you can accept this term, I think this is probably what I am.
I'm probably a liberal conservative.
Meaning... meaning...
Meaning that I'm with you.
I'm with you on most of the stuff, the foundational society stuff.
But I still do have things that I think conservatives wouldn't be thrilled with.
So, you know, I make a begrudgingly pro-choice argument.
Well, I don't want to have a webcam in your bedroom, if that's what you mean.
But outside of that, it doesn't, you know, I think that's something people get wrong with conservatives because of how they govern their families, you know.
But here's something that I appreciate you saying that.
It is different.
There is a journey.
Here's one thing that I'm curious, kind of as it relates to what you've just said.
I understand when you say, you know, classical liberal.
I understand how you go from being, obviously you're a gay man and free speech being really important to you.
Being in a country where you go, listen, as a minority, right, it's obviously very important for you to be able to speak freely, for you to fight for equal rights.
So I understand that transition because the left, the current left is not for that.
But how does the transition happen from where you were more liberal, left-leaning back then, financially.
Because- On policy.
Yeah, that is a change that is notable.
And it's gotta be a tough one to make.
That's not an easy one.
Like, it's not popular.
I can give you a seriously granular answer on that, which is, look, sit down with Thomas Sowell a couple times
and read a couple of those books and talk to some really interesting
conservative libertarian economists, but more than anything else.
And that is, by the way, when people say to me, what have you really shifted on?
I say, not much, except for economics.
And the reason I've shifted for economics, not only because I've listened to the clear and cogent arguments that have been made by Thomas Sowell and many others, But really, because I am a small businessman now.
I run my show, as you know.
I own my production company.
We have about six or seven full-time employees.
I've got some part-time employees.
We pay everybody well.
We pay for 100% of their health insurance.
We gave all my guys bonuses during COVID because they're busting their butts for me.
And I now know, as a small businessman, I live in Los Angeles, in the People's Republic of California.
We are taxed To a hilt.
It's insane what we're taxed by here.
The fact that I'm doing business here, instead of where you are, is slightly nuts.
So you shaved off some IQ points on this journey, if you're still in California.
Not everything happens at once, you know.
And the weather is nice.
The weather is nice.
It's not as humid.
But that means you have more COVID, right?
Humidity and heat kills it.
So, again, another reason.
85% humidity, 95 degrees.
Is that right that they say humidity kills it?
I thought the nice dry heat...
It was, I don't think we don't have the overlay right now, but it was, they had different sort of reference ranges, and I think it was, if it's 75 degrees and 60% humidity, it takes a few hours, and it was something like airborne coronavirus particles, not on a surface, in 95 degree heat, or hotter, and 80% humidity, lasts 60 seconds.
Oh, man, so like Houston or the Florida Panhandle, basically.
Yeah, the beach, just not the New York subway.
Yeah.
Well, the New York subway can be quite humid and hot, so, you know.
That's true.
But truly, I mean, by running my own business and by applying the thoughts that I was talking to, talking to Thomas Sowell, talking to all these people, I started applying those thoughts to my own business, and my business has flourished.
We have no debt.
We're surviving.
We're actually thriving right now.
As I said to you right before we started, I mean, I was a little ahead of the curve on the home studio thing.
This is my garage.
Right.
And I know that if the government gets out of my way, the stupid things I've had to do related to regulation and lights and air conditioning and all of that.
And how much more it costs to operate a business here in California versus in Texas or in Florida or elsewhere.
And the simple fact, beyond anything else, if my taxes are cut, does that mean I'm going to freaking buy a bajillion Bentleys?
Well, I can't afford them anyway, but it's not that, although it would be my right to do it.
I know if my taxes were cut right now, you know what the first thing I would do is?
It's hire more employees.
Oh.
That wasn't my first guess, but good.
What if I would like to purchase an exotic pet?
It's your money, man. Do what you want with it.
And so that is the one thing I would say I've shifted on the most.
What if I would like to purchase an exotic pet or like a funny hat? Zany?
I'm okay with both of those.
Tigers are very hot right now.
Tigers are only $4,000.
I remember finding that out.
I just assumed that when I was a kid that you couldn't buy tigers because it's like, nah, I want a tiger.
My dad said that's illegal.
I was like, well, I guess I'll never have a tiger.
And then I found out it's only $3,000?
Dude, almost everyone I know has a tiger.
Really?
Well, that's because you hang out with Siegfried and Roy.
So let me ask you, what can we expect in this book?
Don't burn this book.
Can nothing be kept secret between us?
Well, listen, I mean, I say this out of love.
It's a liability.
The guy got mauled by the tiger.
And by the way, when people said, like, in a shocking turn of events.
Yeah.
Shocking?
I mean, the guy lived with 24-7, and he was screwing with them, taking pictures.
I'm like, as far as I'm concerned, you're on borrowed time.
It's not shocking.
You know who got attacked by a tiger?
Siegfried, the tiger spectaclist.
Right, like if he had been working with doves as a magician, and the doves turned on him and killed him.
That would be shocking.
That would be surprising.
Or if he had been working with doves, and a tiger came out of the wings and attacked him.
Whoa!
We was the dove guy!
It's not their natural habitat.
So first off, is this, and I know this could be auto-censored on YouTube, is the book flame retardant?
Before we get into the what's inside.
Well, Crowder, little known fact, did you know that Ray Bradbury called Fahrenheit 451, 451 because 451 is the temperature that paper burns?
Yes.
Did you know that?
I assumed.
I'm glad you, I'm glad, yeah, well you definitely assumed.
And I watched the remake that was awful on HBO where, did you see that?
I saw it, I saw it.
Oh my god.
And everyone's, everyone's burning the, they're like, they're all burning the Quran.
Ugh.
And then, uh, then, no, no, they're not burning, I don't remember what it was.
It was just really bad.
Sorry.
Okay.
So, back to Flame Return.
That was with the other, the other Michael Jordan.
That's a tough name to have.
Yeah, I guess.
Especially if you're a black guy.
Like, if he was just a really white Michael Jordan, they'd be like, totally unrelated.
That would be okay.
No, we have not tried to burn it, although we did try to get a copy that was going to be flame retardant, so that it would be fun if we tried to light it on fire, but it would not light on fire.
But trust me, man, I am waiting for some social justice warrior is going to burn this thing.
Yeah.
But really, by titling it Don't Burn This Book, the real idea here, of course, was that the stuff that I lay out here, whether you agree with 100% of it or not, is almost irrelevant.
It really, in my opinion, is some common sense stuff.
And we can disagree on some of the margins, of course we can.
But the idea is that The New York Times will not be happy about this book.
CNN will not be happy about this book.
The social justice worries will not be happy.
And it's not because I'm laying out far-right craziness or even just conservative stuff.
It's because I'm laying out common sense, and in many ways that's become their kryptonite.
Common sense is not what they're in the business of.
They're in the business of keeping everyone hysterical all the time, and I'm trying to give a little antidote to that.
Can you talk quite a bit, I know in your book, about states' rights, and as you're more of kind of, like you said, a liberal conservative, which, frankly, we'd probably be pretty close on the political compass test.
It had me on conservative, but more libertarian than conservative, down in that bottom right quadrant.
I think, actually, if we really whittled down everything that the two of us believe, I think the only one that we'd really get to an impasse at for now is the abortion one.
And in my abortion chapter, I mean, again, I say I'm begrudgingly pro-choice.
I just believe that in a pluralistic society, you have to err on the side of the people that are here and there now to a degree.
And I don't deny that it's life and the rest of it.
And by the way, the abortion chapter ends with me saying, now that you all hate me, let's move on.
Right, that's what I was going to say.
I don't want to get into your penchant for murder or bloodlust.
But I do want to, you talk about states' rights quite a bit, obviously, and that's a big part of your sort of transformation.
And right now, that's at the forefront, right, with the coronavirus.
So, I mean, maybe kind of talk us through that and what your viewpoint is here, because the argument is, you know, the greater sort of public good versus states' autonomy.
Well, it's kind of funny because right now, you know, the lefties who have been screaming for four years that the guy in charge of the government is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis.
Those are also the people who always want the federal government to have all the power to do everything.
And it's like, maybe you don't want the Hitler guy to have all the power.
Let's work this thing through.
But they're not very good at like the second and third order things.
Look, the Constitution, federalism, our founders believed that America really was, as Dennis Prager calls it, an experiment.
And the experiment was, could we have these different states
that would be governed by their own people, have governors, have senators, have state representatives,
that could do the best thing for their states, but yet could we be part of something that was cohesive,
that had a national ethos, and the rest of it, could we make sure the states wouldn't be warring
with each other or trying to destroy each other or the rest of it?
We've done that incredibly well for over 200 years.
But what's interesting is, when you talk about states' rights,
like me and you, I guess, could get into a wonky conversation about states' rights,
but nobody really talks about states' rights.
And suddenly, because of coronavirus, the average person, the average lefty is suddenly going, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I live in New York, and New York has a unique problem because of population density in New York City and the greater New York City area.
And it's a real issue.
Yeah, there's a real issue there related to public health.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if you live in Montana, you might be able to open up quicker and allow more people to go back to work and the rest of it.
And that is because of states' rights.
So I'm actually pretty excited that one of the things that I believe in most, that this experiment of One state can have high taxes, California.
One state could have low taxes, Texas.
But that maybe will affect the money that can go into education or whatever it might be.
Some states have legal recreational marijuana, some don't.
That's a beautiful thing that we're constantly tinkering.
It's like we're in a science experiment, right?
We're constantly going, Oh, does this work?
Does it not work?
And Colorado is the best example of this.
They legalized recreational marijuana and we had a lot of people, this was more people on the right, that were going, this is going to destroy society, this is going to, you know, all of this stuff.
And what happened?
Well, tax revenue went up and there's no evidence that crime went up.
There's no evidence that there's been urban decay or any of it.
And then maybe a conservative will rethink their position on it.
Maybe not two, but then you can at least look at it.
That's actually a good example, because I've always been pro states' rights on not only marijuana, but heroin.
But at one point, this is my transition, I said, I wouldn't vote.
You're on heroin as well?
Yeah.
So you're even more libertarian on that than I am.
Blacks are heroin, I don't give a rat's ass.
But my issue is, I said, well, listen, the thing is, we don't have a way of testing for it, and that's a danger with people driving.
And that is something that's undeniable in Colorado with traffic fatalities.
And it's tough to know how many of them are THC-induced because of how long it stays in the bloodstream.
But until they've figured out that problem, that is something that now hopefully other states can look to.
Say, okay, we can look at the tax revenue, we can look at how maybe it's structured, and we need to figure out The traffic fatalities, and then it'll get better and states will adjust.
Yeah, a lot of people never understood that about myself.
I was like, yeah, listen, I don't think that doing a bunch of drugs is good.
And I don't think that it's always even great for society to legalize it, but that's kind of the risk that we take and the price that we pay.
And I think that Wyoming has a right to say, no, we're not going to allow it.
So.
Crowder, I love the fact that you just came out as more libertarian than even me on the heroin thing.
Because, I mean, I talk about drugs in the book, obviously.
And basically, I agree.
You want to maximize people's ability to do whatever they want.
So I'm for legalizing marijuana, if the states so choose to do it.
I'm for legalizing medicinal mushrooms.
I mean, a bunch of stuff.
But for me, the harder drugs, at some point, their effect on society— See, that's where I disagree.
That's what I disagree with you on.
You don't want your next door neighbor to be whacked out on crack and heroin.
I don't want him whacked out on mushrooms.
What the hell?
This is, like, I get heroin.
Nobody on mushrooms is knocking on your door, coming for you.
Yes, absolutely.
Mushroom guy?
Mushroom guy.
Mushrooms, absolutely.
And the psilocybin, all the stuff.
I tell you what, I get the heroin thing.
I've never done heroin, but anyone who's been on morphine, like Bayer made heroin, right?
They still give heroin in some hospitals.
It's a painkiller.
But there's no performance-enhancing benefit to mushrooms.
Again, states can legalize it.
I've seen people go out of their mind on mushrooms.
Are you sure on mushrooms?
I think you might be talking about acid, which is synthetic, by the way.
Mushrooms are completely natural.
I mean, I've done mushrooms.
I know many people that do mushrooms.
People on mushrooms, you wander in a park for five hours You think about the universe, and then you go to bed, and you wake up, and you feel good.
That's it.
Not everybody.
Nobody's coming for you on mushrooms.
Not everybody.
Nobody's eating mushrooms.
I'm going to go do some stuff.
Sure, that happens.
I mean, you have some guys who smoke weed, and they rip people's faces off.
And I just think we need to be honest about the risks and legalize them.
But anecdotally, I have only seen heroin people who they nod off, and people on mushrooms lose their minds.
Now, it doesn't mean that's the rule for everyone, but just because it's natural, I mean, so is Hemlock.
But we're getting off the weeds here.
Here's what I will say.
Mr. Rubin, you do need to leave California, and you do need to move to Texas, of course, because obviously wonderful folks at The Blaze, who we both work with, are there.
But if you do that, if you move from the hellhole that is California because of our taxes, because of our laws, because of our liberty, and you come to Texas, and you vote, and you start voting blue and turn the state purple, I will crucify you upside down without breakfast.
It's so funny you say that, because whenever, when I was touring with Jordan Peterson, or if I do stand-up in the middle of the country, that always becomes like a running theme.
Like, I say to these people, I'll be in Utah, and I'll be like, you know, I kinda dig it here.
Maybe I'll come to Utah.
Maybe I'll come to Salt Lake City.
Maybe I'll come to Dallas.
And people are like, they'll applaud, and then suddenly someone in the crowd will be like, but don't bring everybody else!
Right, it's true.
It's true.
Absolutely true.
Yeah, I think other states really are fearing that.
And by the way, it's legit.
I mean, there have been some studies on the amount of people leaving California that then go to Texas.
I mean, look, Ted Cruz almost lost to freaking Beto O'Rourke.
That is a crazy proposition for Texas to have to confront.
I'm fairly certain I can tell you, Crowder, that if I move to Texas, you're going to be okay.
Okay, all right.
From the Dave Rubin engine.
And don't try and play trickery here and say, oh, I don't vote Democrat, and then like vote Jesse Ventura when he gets into the Green Party.
That won't fly either.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I went through my Jesse Ventura phase.
Okay, all right.
Then you learned the facts.
All right, Mr. Rubin, we do have to get going.
This book, of course, is Don't Burn This Book.
Where is it available for people to find and hopefully get it to the number one there?
Crowder, they said to me, don't launch a book in the middle of the biggest worldwide pandemic in decades, if not centuries.
I said, no, no, we're going to do it.
You guys can get it at DontBurnThisBook.com.
It's on Amazon.
Of course, we got an audio book.
We got the Audible, the whole shebang, Barnes & Noble, wherever you get a book.
You got your local bookstore there, over there in Texas?
They've got that.
No, because here it's 2020.
But I appreciate that.
I appreciate you plugging in.
There's actually, I will tell you this next time, there's a Barnes & Noble cafe.
No books.
Very, very few books.
It's like a magazine stand.
So that's the only Barnes & Noble that I know of in my area, but Amazon works.
Timing is everything.
They will deliver it to you.
Okay, perfect.
All right, well, Mr. Rubin, of course it is.
Don't burn this book, at Rubin Report.
Thank you for making the time, brother.
Be safe, wash your hands.
Good seeing you, my friend, and start looking for some real estate for me, would ya?
We'll see you all tomorrow!
Good morning Bug Club!
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