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April 2, 2020 - Louder with Crowder
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#657 Prank Calls and Your Questions Answered! Ash Wednesday | Louder with Crowder
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Day three of hashtag MugClub quarantine, where everything is free in front of the paywall, what's usually available exclusively for MugClubbers, and we've added three more shows per week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Good morning, MugClub.
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You get $30 off.
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It's the most money discount that we've done since the Vox Adpocalypse.
And I'll tell you what, I'm at this point, I'm saying, what am I doing at two shows a day?
I might not make it, but I'm gonna do my best.
So enjoy the show.
You'll notice that it's a show.
Shit, I got water all over myself.
All right, let's go.
["Strange Animals"]
music Welcome to Dove.
Para el Español o Prima el DOS.
Thank you for contacting Dove.
My name is d**k. How can I help you today?
Oh d**k, okay.
Thank the Lord you've answered d**k. I would like to file a complaint.
I should ask, I'm sorry.
How are you today?
I'm wonderful.
How are you doing?
I have been better.
Like I said, I would like to lodge a complaint.
If you please.
Absolutely, go ahead.
Are you the representative I would speak with?
Because I want to talk with someone who can make a change Over there at Dove, I don't want it to just go to some, you know, folks who just send it on to the higher ups.
Um, I don't have the authority to give you anyone higher up, but I can absolutely take note of your comment and it does get passed as long as that is sort of the chain of command here.
Okay, well I am calling regarding your Real Beauty campaign.
You aware of your Real Beauty campaign?
Mm-hmm, yes.
About body positivity?
Yeah.
And I really appreciate that.
Okay, I'm gonna let you, I want to say at first, I appreciate y'all doing that work.
I appreciate that you want to represent people, different people, non-binaries, okay, non-binaries, men and women, and people from different cultures, different races, different body types, because I get it, that's hard.
Right?
But I, still, I do not, I, myself, am not represented at all by this campaign, and I am frankly offended that people of my ilk have been left out.
I'm so sorry to hear that to confirm your calling, because the Real Beauty campaign, you still feel excluded from?
Absolutely.
And I gotta, and I, let me tell y'all, I am a real beauty.
I'm sorry, I think y'all have a blind spot.
Because I am a gender non-conforming person of color.
You see that in the campaign?
No, you don't.
You don't see that in the campaign.
And guess what?
Does that mean I'm not a real beauty though?
No, and you're... I think that's what it means.
I'm a gender non-conforming person of color, okay, Z of color, and I'm a quasi-amputee.
I don't see that in the campaign.
Is that in the campaign?
You got any quasi-amputees in the campaign?
Don't believe so, no.
How about folks with rickets?
I also have rickets.
I have four rickets.
So let me tell you, my name is Jesse.
Okay, Jess apostrophe E. I'm telling you, what I see when I see that campaign is, we want people of all body types here at Dubb.
As long as people out there are part of a demographic, they're gonna buy a soap.
But there's enough people, right?
We got skinny people, we got fat people, we got black people, we got lesbians, right?
We got gays.
But we don't have a combination of a non-conforming person of color, quasi-amputee with rickets.
I apologize for that, but you do feel excluded by that, and I can absolutely empathize with how you- Thank you very- I appreciate your empathy.
Let me ask you this.
I know you apologize, and listen, d***.
I know you get people who just be pissed off calling all the time.
So I don't want to come down on you.
I don't want to come down on y'all, right?
Because I understand.
Like, it's not your fault.
But that's why I want to talk to somebody who can make a change, because I know you got to apologize, but I want to ask you.
How do you feel?
How do you feel when you hear that?
Do you think- Do you feel good about that?
That I'm not representing that campaign?
It feels, you know what it feels like?
It feels like I live in death.
I empathize, don't sympathize, obviously I've never been in any issues,
so that is not something that I could feel, but I genuinely am sorry,
and I can't imagine how it feels for you, I'm sorry.
It feels, you know what it feels like?
It feels like I live in death.
It feels like I'm alive, but I'm dead at the same time, because it's like I might as well be dead,
because ain't nobody recognizing my existence.
And I don't know why, you know, listen, you get pats on the back from all the white people
up there in Williamsburg, pushing black folk out, And they talking about how the hell progressive and sh**
And then you got someone like me.
How do I, listen, I am a, I am a non-conforming person of color.
We already, listen, you can, you can cross, you can cross that off the list.
We don't even get to quasi amputee in Ricketts, let alone single income household.
I'm a single mom.
Right, I don't see that in there.
You know what else I don't see?
Y'all have interviews?
With y'all models?
Let me look into that for you.
I can already answer the question, d***.
It's not your fault!
But no, no, we talking about all different kinds of beauty.
How about the inner beauty then?
I'm just supposed to look and be like, oh, that's a fat, that's a, that's a fat white bitch.
I'm supposed to think that person's good looking, but I don't know nothing about them.
I want to hear what that black woman there, that black woman, I want to hear what she has to say.
I want to hear what she has to say.
Why is she using Dove?
What made her want to do the campaign for Dove?
You telling me, oh, everybody's beautiful, but we all supposed to have self-confidence, and that's all well and good, but I'm just supposed to look at their bodies.
And the bodies, they ain't represented.
You know, ain't represented by me.
Bodies that are white and black, but they all people, they ain't got no, they ain't got no gender non-conforming people of color.
They all got legs, all that shit.
What can y'all do about this?
Who do I gotta talk to to make a change?
Cause I get it, y'all progressive, but it seems like y'all progressive in a way that's maybe comfortable.
And what I'm doing right now, d***, I hope you understand what I'm doing.
I'm just trying to make sure that you are all a little, and not you, d***, because it sounds to me like you're cool, it sounds to me like you understand where I'm coming from, but I want to make Dove just a little bit uncomfortable so y'all can feel the pain that I feel every f***ing day as a gender non-conforming person of color who is a quasi-amputee with rickets in a single income household.
What we gotta do.
What I can do is forward your comments to the brand.
If you'd like, I can take down your contact information in case they're inclined to contacting you.
Sorry, I'm trying to type as I talk.
Is that a joke?
Is that a joke?
Is that a joke about my quasi-NPT?
I know you didn't just make a joke about the fact that I can't type at all.
I was not f***ing touching at all.
I genuinely apologize.
I was being genuine in that I was Apology accepted.
But don't let me catch you doing it again.
How many people do you know in your life?
This is what happens a lot.
People, you know, you know how we destroy racism in this country?
You know how we got past racism?
Do you know?
Well, it's people who thought, they thought black people were worse.
They thought black people were animals or less than, right?
And then, all of a sudden, they hung out with black people.
They realized, hey, they're not so bad.
People need to know people of other stripes and other patterns so that they can then know that we all want, that we are all the world, right?
That's what you get exposed to people and then you're no longer scared of them, right?
How many people there at Dove know people like me?
People who are gender non-conforming, folks of color, quasi-amputees with rickets.
How many people do you know like me?
How many people does your supervisor know like me?
Absolutely, I can definitely see your point in that it is not someone...
I can't say that I know someone who is a quasi-amputee with rickets.
Then how you gonna know to put them in a campaign?
It's like, it's like we don't even exist!
You say that I ain't even, you, when you say that, that's like you saying that I don't exist.
Again, I'm very empathetic with this, um, and I would be more than happy to, you know, get your contact information, pass this along to the brand, um, Who's that?
Can I get a name?
Can I get a name?
I gotta speak with the supervisor, because I appreciate that you empathize, but I want to make sure that the people there who are making decisions, who are going out and putting this up there on Cosmopolitan and Elle and s***, that they hear from me.
Absolutely.
So you do want to speak with the supervisor?
Yeah, if that's going to make a change, I'm just calling trying to make a change.
We are the change we seek!
Absolutely.
Alright.
Absolutely.
In that case, if you don't mind, I'm gonna place you on a brief hold while I reach out to my supervisor and see who's
available to take a call.
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I- I know they didn't just play hoedown music up in his motherf**ker.
I'm about to lose my sh** Good afternoon
Thank you for calling Duff.
My name is ****.
I'm one of the supervisors.
Is this Jesse?
Hi, ****.
This is Jesse.
Hi, Jesse.
I understand you were calling in today regarding the Real Beauty campaign?
Yes, ****.
Can I say ma'am?
Yes, ma'am.
Yes.
Yes, ma'am.
And I spoke with D***, and I gotta tell you, D*** was great.
D*** was very helpful, okay?
And I know that y'all deal with people on customer service all the time, calling in pissed.
I get it's not your fault, but it is really hard, as a gender non-conforming, person of color, quasi-amputee with rickets, to find somebody to talk to who will listen to me speak my truth.
Okay.
Well, I certainly understand.
And this is in regards to the campaign that you saw, and where did you see that advertisement on?
Was that like a YouTube video?
Where did I see the advertisement?
Where did I not see that advertisement?
That's the problem!
It's like, you know one of those paintings that has like the eyes that are a little bit further back than the rest of the painting, so when you move, the eyes are following you and sh**?
It's like that everywhere I go.
It's on YouTube.
I go to buy some clothes.
It's showing up on my auto ads.
I see, I saw it on the subway.
I see the real beauty ads everywhere.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Okay?
I appreciate the concept.
I think the idea of real beauty is great.
You got people of all different shapes and sizes.
That's fantastic.
I don't see, I look at all of them women.
And people, but I don't see my face!
I don't see myself represented at all!
And I wanna know why Dove thinks that it's okay to exclude people of my ilk in y'all Real Beauty campaign, when I am, and don't let nobody tell you different, I am a real beauty!
Well, I certainly don't disagree at all.
Dove believes that all women and girls have the right to, well, anybody actually.
I was gonna say, I didn't say woman or girl, I said gender non-conforming.
Right, that's right.
I'm not a woman or girl.
I'm gender non-conforming, but I understand y'all still making baby steps.
I'm not looking to play gotcha, hang on anything.
But then why is someone like myself not represented?
Let me ask you this.
When you look at that campaign, if you can bring it up right now, what do you see?
What kind of people do you see?
No, I certainly understand.
And I'm so sorry that you may not have been represented.
May?
May not have been represented?
You think it's a may?
I'm telling you that it's proactive.
I am telling you.
Listen, it's not just Doug.
It's everybody.
I don't see any... Any time I go, I see a commercial.
I go to... I go to Whataburger.
I go down to Carl's Jr., Burger King, and sh**.
I don't see nobody like me in any of the campaigns, and then I hear Dove doing a Real Beauty campaign.
It's gonna be including people of all different shapes and sizes and races.
I'm starting to think things are looking up for Jessie.
And then I tune in, and it's the same stuff.
It's the same shit that I've seen with every other campaign.
That's why I'm most upset about this, because I'm talking about, I'm a small business owner.
It's what we call opportunity cost.
Opportunity cost because this was a moment for someone like me to shine and we ain't even included
And I am so sorry did I just hear somebody laughing in that hall absolutely
Did I just hear somebody laughing on that hall?
You have my ass on speaker?
That sounds to me like I'm here laughing your voice.
There ain't nothing funny about this because I live in this every day.
It's not just some little thing that I'm using to sell some more detergent, okay?
I live every day as a gender non-conforming person of color, quasi-amputee with rickets, single income household.
I'm a single mother.
And here's something else I was asking.
I was asking, I want to know about these people.
I don't want to just see their bodies.
It's like Dove saying, hey, hey, hey, everybody want to know their bodies.
We're looking at inner beauty.
Do you have any interviews with them people?
What are their likes?
What are their hobbies?
Are they a member of the Rotary Club?
What do they do?
I have no idea.
I'm just looking at a bunch of white bodies and cis black women and Dove calls that progress.
Is that what you think is progress?
You think that's inclusive?
No, I understand your concern.
Absolutely.
And I appreciate your comments and I'm absolutely going to forward those to the brand, Desi.
Okay, I appreciate.
So what do you expect?
What do you propose we do about it?
Forward along to the brand.
I already made calls.
Listen, you're not the first one on my list.
I called Nike.
I called Gillette.
I called Brie Larson and the Marvel Comics and all that sh**.
I've been making calls.
Everyone always says we're gonna forward it to someone else.
Ain't nothing changed.
We are the change we see.
I understand completely and I assure you I will pass your information and your feedback on to the brand so they're made aware of your concerns.
And that's all we got?
Let me ask you this.
How do you identify?
Sounds like you got a lovely voice.
It sounds like you're a woman.
Correct, yes.
And if I may ask, have you always been a woman?
I have.
So you don't have a clue what kind of pain someone like me goes through every day having to deal afterwards with having effectively myself mutilated and then sutured up.
And they give me the device that I gotta use to reopen that wound every day just so I can go around living like you.
And you know how much harder that is when you got rickets?
It's not an easy procedure.
So I want to know, do you have anyone in your department who might be able to share my pain?
Who might be able to relate with my struggle?
Do you have anybody in your department who is gender non-conformant?
Got anyone with rickets?
No, I do not.
I'm so sorry.
How many rickets do you have in that office?
That's information that I don't have.
I apologize.
It's information you have if you've seen a person with rickets.
If you've seen a person with rickets, you can tell.
It's the eyeball test.
It's just the eyeball test.
It ain't that hard to figure out.
You would know if you've seen someone with rickets.
You seen somebody walking around like Doc Holliday like he going out west for tuberculosis and shit?
Well, I'm very sorry, Jesse.
I'm not familiar with it.
So I don't know much about it.
That's what I'm saying.
That's the problem!
You're not even familiar with it!
Do you know what Ricketts is?
I do not, but that doesn't mean that I don't care about the situation.
Well, it doesn't seem like Dove cares.
I've had enough.
Okay, please.
Send that up.
Send that up.
Send that up, and I want to see in that next campaign from Dove, I want to see from Dove someone like me.
Matter of fact, call me.
I am available, and I need work.
Just apostrophe E. You can call me back.
You got a pencil there?
You got a pen that you can write with?
I can absolutely take down your information here.
That must be nice.
I'm sorry, you said that's J-E-S-S apostrophe E. Yes.
Sometimes I use a semicolon.
Okay.
Okay.
And you can call me back at... And then you must have cut out.
Yeah, yeah, I must have.
Okay.
You sure you don't need to get another pen for yourself that you can write with, with your functioning f***ing hand?
I'm sorry, is there a last name that I can apply to this as well?
Nope!
It is just Death apostrophe E. I went through a lot of work to get that sh** out of my driver's license.
I don't need a last name.
Alright.
Not a problem at all.
Why'd you ask?
Alright, I'll absolutely forward this information along.
You go ahead and you do that.
You tell them that Just a Possibly E is available, and not only, not only for beauty shots, but I'm available for an interview to speak to the transgender, gender non-conforming, people of color, quasi-amputee, with rickets, single mother community at large.
There's a lot of us out there now!
All right, absolutely.
I can do that for you.
All right.
I appreciate it.
And see, people at Dove, maybe you think we're fighting.
I think we're finally talking.
I'll talk to you later.
And I'm waiting for that call.
Well, thank you so much for your time today, Jesse.
And you have a wonderful afternoon.
Are you laughing?
Are you laughing?
I'm hearing laughing right now in your voice.
No, Jesse.
What?
No.
Don't do me like that.
We had a good phone call.
Now you gotta ruin it by sitting there laughing.
Laughing like a cis woman.
And by the way, I think I can hear from your voice that you a white cis woman laughing at a woman of color, gender non-conforming, quasi-amputee, single income household with rickets.
Not at all, Jesse.
I'm so sorry if you took it that way.
I certainly did not mean anything at all.
I'm actually kind of confused a little bit, so I apologize for any confusion.
What confusion?
Because I feel that I made myself crystal clear.
I just apologize because I was not laughing at you in any way, and I'm so sorry if you thought that.
Yeah, I did think that.
It sounded like it.
It sounded like it.
No, I'm very sorry that you may have assumed that.
I don't know if maybe you may have heard somebody in the background having a conversation with someone else.
No, I didn't hear nobody in the background talking to someone else.
I heard you say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll call you back.
That's the shit that I heard.
Listen, this next phone call can be ACLU or Jesse Jackson.
I just want to make sure that you don't find my condition funny, and that you're taking it seriously, and this isn't going to go in some suggestion box with a bunch of other angry white women saying, oh, 77 cents on the dollar and sh**.
I want it to go to someone who really understands the community that I represent.
Gender non-conforming, people of color, quasi-amputees, single income household with rickets.
No, I absolutely do understand.
And our black Hebrews are like, you know Jesus was black?
Did you know Jesus?
That's enough.
It's bad enough that I got to look at posters and paintings all over the place with Jesus looking like he just came out of an SS catalog and blonde hair and blue eyes.
Jesus was black.
All right, I'll let you get back to your day then.
Alright, Jesse, thank you for...
...
Okay, and now we're here doing the Ash Wednesday.
It's just me, Quarterblack, Gerald, and Audio Wade.
And hey, Gerald.
That is a good color on you.
It is what I would feel compelled to say if it weren't the only color that you wear.
It's true.
It's true.
I do wear other colors, though, so maybe you're more colorblind than I am.
You wear the ones that your wife clears.
Yes.
And that's the white noise.
That is a safe thing to do.
It is the background to the Indian going, At night.
That's the other color you wear.
The Indian?
Wow, I didn't even know what that means.
Wow.
I'm so lost right now.
Never studied history.
It's like Gerald, unless it happened in his lifetime, it didn't exist.
Other than I'm a history buff, but yeah.
And you are not aware of the Indian Native American.
Powerful.
When television went out back in the day, it was just an Indian door.
I remember, yeah.
Oh, well you just acted like you didn't.
No, I knew it in that context, but you just said the Indian going out and I'm like, what?
Huh?
This makes no sense.
I wasn't 70 years old just watching TV until it went out.
Are you on drugs again?
A little bit.
Give me some.
Pass him over.
I am your host, of course.
I look like a hopeless butthole today, I should say.
I had to do a physical today for insurance.
Is there a hopeful butthole?
I said a hobo's butthole.
Oh, gosh.
I think he said a hopeless butthole.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Sure.
There can be hopeful buttholes.
I don't know.
Before the big show.
Yeah.
Before the strain.
Okay.
So I had to go in for a physical, so I wasn't having, we had to pre-tape Smash Wednesdays because I'm not allowed to have any tobacco.
And they said cigars are fine.
I said, I smoke cigars, you know, like we do it every time on the show, so I don't want you to deny a claim because, evidence!
And imagine that if I go, I'm like, I would like to claim, well my wife would say, I'd like to claim my life insurance over my cold corpse.
And I'd say, sorry, you can't claim it.
Your husband was a smoker.
She goes, what?
No, he wasn't.
And they just go, click.
And every Wednesday plays on a loop, like a morphine drip.
Or fentanyl.
That'd be bad.
We were just talking about this earlier.
I said, before we went on air, I got two hours sleep, and I'll get back to my insurance physical.
I said, heroin is child's play compared to fentanyl.
And Audio Wade, God love him, he goes, I wouldn't use the word child's play for heroin.
I said, OK.
Let me be clear.
If you take a syringe full of heroin, and you've been doing it your entire life, if you were a heroin baby, and you've never stopped heroin, and you put a grain of fentanyl in there, you die immediately.
That's how strong it is.
Yikes.
I guess it's child's play.
There you go.
I'm not sure what verbiage you'd like me to use.
And it may not be exactly a grain, but it's like the size of a grain of rice.
Like, kill you with fentanyl.
Is it like an overdose thing, or is it just a completely different thing?
Yes, you overdose.
So isn't that what Michael Jackson was doing, though?
Seriously.
He was doing everything.
No, but there was one particular thing that he was given.
It was a sleeping drug.
I don't remember what it was, though.
Six-year-old.
Well, taking.
So I went in for my physical.
That could be an excuse as well, never mind.
And they said, hold on, they didn't really start the cigar.
You have to, yeah, light that puppy up.
So I went in, I had to do a physical, and they said, oh no, occasional cigars are fine.
I said, that's fine?
They said, yeah, just make sure there's no nicotine in your system.
I said, well, would I have it from a cigar?
They said, yeah, we think so.
I'm like, well, then are they fine?
Like, well, it's fine, but Don't have any.
Don't die and have nicotine.
So I said, okay.
So I went a long while without smoking any cigars or anything like that.
And by the way, they used to tell you that nicotine is as addictive as heroin when you're a kid.
I was like, I kind of would have liked to have a cigar.
I don't know if it's comparable.
Heroin addicts out there, let me know.
And then I went and I found out that I use this CBD, and I think we're having a CBD sponsor actually come onto the show.
Really?
What?
And it turns out that I am immediately put into the tobacco user category anyway because it's full spectrum.
Even if it's 0.3% THC, they filed me as a recreational drug user.
Really?
What?
So that goes from $6,000 a year to $34,000 a year for the plan.
You can test again in 12 months.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Are you serious?
You know what?
This is what's broken with our American medical system.
That's so stupid.
I called ahead.
I said, do I need to fast because I have to do this blood work?
And they said, no, you don't.
And I go in like, so when was the last time you ate?
And I said, 7 o'clock, which was giving me 12 hours.
And they went, ooh.
I was like, what?
I called in!
I asked you!
I called!
In!
And then the doctor didn't appreciate how fit I was.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
What does that mean?
We had to do the recovery test, the heart test.
Have you guys ever done these things?
So they're like, get your heart rate over 100.
That's it?
And I'm basically a cripple right now.
My knee, both wrists, both shoulders.
So I'm like, I can't really do any jumps.
They wanted me to do squat thrusts.
I said, so let me just do this.
I'll just do like some light kind of shadow boxing.
I got my heart rate to 142.
Right.
And then after one minute they test it, it was 72 or 73.
There you go.
Wow.
That's pretty good.
I'm like, that's fantastic!
Give me this one!
I'm a recreational drug user, come on!
Yes, exactly!
Have you ever seen a CBD head do that?
So, he created a whole new category.
And they said, then their computers were down today, and they said, sorry, it's going to take a little while.
And I said, sorry, I don't have a little while, so that's why I kind of scheduled it on point.
And I was knocking.
The appointment was at 7 in the morning.
Yeah.
7.15.
So I assume they open at 7.
Sorry.
Right.
Like normal businesses.
Normal businesses.
And I go up.
I can see her in the window.
And I'm knocking.
It says, oh, she's not answering.
Ring the doorbell.
I'm like, well, I don't want to assume she's a bitch.
So I ring the doorbell.
She looks and goes back.
And then at 7.20, another lady who I had never seen before, who I couldn't see through the vestibule, comes out.
And I said, while I was out there, I was knocking.
She's like, yeah, we don't open until 7.15.
I'm like, first off, you could let me in.
Second, it's 7.20.
Yeah.
So this was my day today.
Do you typically schedule appointments as you're unlocking and turning on the lights?
Is that how you guys work?
I was early, and I think the physical that could have taken half an hour took an hour and 45 minutes at least.
Wow.
And I still have all the blood.
She spilled blood on my arm!
She spilled it on my arm that my elbow is stained with my own blood.
So life insurance, is this what you're talking about?
Or health insurance?
They're trying to take you out.
Basically, you guys are covered.
If I die, everyone here gets paid for a good long while, but I think it's actually harder for me to cover myself.
Do we have to still do a show?
No.
You get paid for nothing.
That's fantastic.
That's very close to what happens now.
I don't get to do that.
I hope you had a hell of a trip to Disney World, Too Cute Maddie!
No, seriously.
It's the most wonderful place on the planet.
I hope that you enjoy it, because I live vicariously through you.
What is the pairing of the week?
Pairing of the week is Olivia.
She is not Olivia.
And MacAllan, 12, I can't read it, it's so small.
Cherry oak cask.
That guy's full of shit.
Because Oliva is a brand, it's not a cigar, and that's why it doesn't have a picture.
And there are also so many different subsidiaries.
It's also, like, the most common name over there in Nicaragua.
So he's just picking, like, you know.
Yeah, it's like picking, like, Smith.
I'm having pop.
It'll be like saying Smith.
Yeah, my best buddy is a guy, Mr. Smith.
Who?
Which Mr. Smith?
John.
Yes.
Jacob Jingleheimer.
It's woo.
It's like saying woo.
His name is my name too.
Anyway, but I appreciate it.
And he also, it's not lost on me that you picked the Ron Swanson.
Sorry.
Did you just hit the microphone?
I did, yeah.
That was my bad.
Nice.
Give me some.
So, um...
Seriously.
All right, so you guys are sending in your video questions at lottoextender.com slash ask.
I was arguing with the audio waiter earlier before the show because he's a fan of Hitler, I found out.
I was like, what?
That's inappropriate.
That's so weird.
No, I'm joking.
We were talking about the war effort versus New Deal and what pulled us out of the Great Depression, and we actually both agree.
He likes to praise Hitler.
It's very weird.
I'm the sensationalist.
It really is.
It's definitely the uniforms.
If only you knew the punchlines that Audio Wade wrote.
He came in and I'm like, wait, you came in from, you worked at it.
You were, where did you work for this ministry?
I'm like, NV, you wrote this?
Okay.
Didn't make the cut.
I'm just going to make sure you cosign it.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, but, uh, I will say you have been a great surprise and Gerald, you are my professional life's biggest disappointment.
Yeah.
I think Wade is here to balance me out.
We love you, Gerald.
No, I'm joking, because we're going to be taking a stroll down memory lane as to how we met.
We will, but this is Moneyball, right?
What?
This is like Moneyball.
You have to have like a really great audio person now to balance me out.
Yeah.
Do you know Moneyball?
Here's the thing.
I don't want to say a really good audio person.
Well, you never did audio.
No, I'm just saying.
You do the Triadcaster, and half the time you forget to turn off the fade.
No, you are good.
You picked up the TriCaster really quickly.
That's such a tough deal.
Yeah.
I will say this.
We were back watching the Jihadi Bond intro, and it just said props by Garrett, because that was before I actually knew you were black.
That's right.
People think it's a joke when we used to ask you, like, what is that in Spanish?
You're like, why do you keep asking me?
I'm like, you're Mexican!
I didn't know this.
But you did that, I will say, I've never seen anybody put together props and it's the kind of thing you could lock me in a cell and I can't get out until I can make an R2-D2 like you did out of, you know, a bent back paper clip, some yarn, and a trash can.
I never get out.
Yeah, you're done.
It's like the Count of Monte Cristo without a third act.
I just end in the cell.
Dead next to some materials.
I will say this.
I do feel like I'm pretty consistent with praise with people, but I don't give any praise if it's not warranted.
So for example, I'm never going to tell you that you run fast.
Thank you.
But I will say this, too.
You know what?
Let's just do this.
We'll maybe go to some questions.
Can we pick the order?
Can we play the question of how Gerald and I met?
Yes.
OK, but let's not do that right now.
Here's one thing I will say that does impress me, too, about Garrett.
His swimming ability?
Hold on a second.
Someone else.
I'm very, very tired today and this is why we have the paywall.
Talk, Gerald.
I didn't like the cigar prep.
So you're like the MacGyver of prop making?
A little bit.
That was the reference, yeah.
Really?
That's what I'm seeing.
Steven, if you could say one nice thing about Garrett, what would you say?
Well, no, I just said that he did great props.
I'm just trying to see what you did.
But I remember, too, when we did the... I don't know if it was the first Crowder Confronts, the one where we did Open Minds of America at that Democratic convention?
Yes, it was.
That was the first one?
Yes.
So I remember this because, again, keep in mind, at this point, Cordoblack Garrett was... Just Garrett.
I'm a mystery.
He was what they would say like a featured player on SNL, but he really wasn't doing as much as he is now.
Right.
And we were there, and it got kind of dicey, where some people got physical.
And at that point, I just have my head in a swivel, and I'm going, OK, where are people who can possibly hurt me?
I can't necessarily be aware of everyone on the team.
And when I went back and watched the footage, I noticed some people who shrunk back and basically left a wide opening for people to just tee off on me.
And I see Garrett like a little John Belushi.
He's like, all right.
He's looking for it.
He's like, all right, all right, all right.
He was ready to throw down.
I have no doubt that he was ready to throw fists.
Nice.
He's a bold little wolverine.
I appreciate it, thank you.
No, and I will say, everyone, I mean, Audio Wade obviously is great with the audio, and then very, very funny.
That was just a total.
I found out that he was planning it all along, to write for the show, and he made me think it was my idea.
Inception.
That's good, too.
I'm very sneaky.
He's very sneaky, sorry.
And then Gerald Epps.
We've been friends for a long time.
You're a very sharp guy.
You have a great voice for radio, too.
Back when we were on radio, you saved our ass because I went, I don't even know how to project!
And you're a very low guy.
He has a good voice to come in, like, as a guest and have him just come in with some points.
Yeah, Gerald is a very sharp guy.
Very sharp guy who occasionally...
Meaning always steps on jokes, but that was my thing for a while like I did it so many times It was my shtick, but we're just rags a dental just like by the way bill.
Yeah, he'll only does it with people He likes like I've been on the phone with me, and he literally said fuck off and hung up I respect him so much for that, too.
I'm not joking at all.
And I call back, and I will apologize if I'm wrong.
And with Bill, I'm like, Bill, all right, I'm sorry.
What happened was he goes, well, OK, Steven, what's the solution?
I'm like, I don't know.
This is the exact conversation.
I said, I don't know.
I thought I kind of paid you x because you could figure out what was wrong here.
He goes, fuck off.
Click.
I feel like that's Donald Trump with the leader of China.
I swear to you, head to heaven, that was the exact conversation.
Yeah, I love it.
That's great.
He told me about that, by the way.
We love Bill.
He's the perfect lawyer for the show.
You know why?
Anyone can say no.
Bill is a great lawyer who finds out how to say yes.
I've gone through everything.
There's everyone here.
I'm really, really blessed to have the team that we have.
Really, honestly, I'm so grateful.
There's no one here who I dislike.
There really isn't.
There's no one here who... That's wonderful.
Other than that one person.
What do you mean?
No, there have been people.
But there's no one here, right?
No, no, no, no.
So that brings us to, let's, uh, conversation was how, uh, yeah, here we go.
Hey gang, it's Natalie.
Um, I was wondering how did you guys, how did you meet up with, uh, Gerald?
Um, it's always something that's actually been on my mind since we know, um, like Garrett and Maddie and a couple other people, uh, golden ticket.
Um, but as somebody who was from Detroit and, uh, Uh, French Canada, like, how did you guys, like, how did that friendship start or how did you guys first meet and stuff like that?
It's something I don't think you've ever talked about.
Um, I, well thank you very much.
Ashley?
Was it Ashley?
Natalie?
Natalie.
Natalie.
The question, was it Natalie or Ashley?
Something with an E. It was Natalie.
Miss E. Um, just don't go sailing with Robert Wagner.
Don't do it.
That's an old Natalie Wood reference.
With Gerald, as far as, Gerald is like, that doesn't exist because I wasn't alive for it.
I don't think so, at least.
He's still like a small child where when I do this with Gerald, look.
Where'd you go?
Yeah, he has no idea.
Oh, there you are.
Okay, he's back.
Don't even get me started on quantum physics.
Which, by the way, is also a lot of it is just religion.
If we want to talk about quantum theory and physics... There's a lot of faith going in there.
Yeah.
For every way the world could be, there is a world which is that way.
When I was in humanities in college, I drove my professor nuts.
I think that's the reason it's the only time I've ever gotten 100% on any assignment was my review of 12 Monkeys because he just wanted me to die.
Yes.
And go away.
Steven, it's the multiverse.
I like that movie, though.
So even, how did Gerald... I met Gerald, actually.
There was a girl who he liked.
Not at all, in fact.
This has been a running joke for like a decade.
Yes, we've talked about that before.
It was a birthday party, and people were more my age.
But Joe was hanging out for, you know, listen, that's fine.
I'm not that much older than you, though.
I will say this, I say this respectfully.
I don't mean this in a, you were older than everyone else there.
I was an elder in the ministry that was associated with these people, yes.
Right.
So I was about seven, I was seven years older than people, I think, like seven or eight years older.
You were, you were, you stood out.
Yes.
Put it that way.
Because of my height.
And so we were sitting there, yes.
And, or because of comments like this where you think that's like a great icebreaker.
Because of my height.
No, because you're weird and creepy.
It's the voice.
No, but you sat there and you were very nice and you were older and you were kind of at the end and I was kind of at the end.
It was mostly women.
I remember, yeah.
And I will say this, I've always been drawn to misfits.
And not that you're a misfit in general, but at that table, you and I were certainly misfits.
Yes, of course.
And so I just started talking with Gerald, and then when I was driving home with the girl who was our kind of mutual friend, I said, who's that Gerald guy?
He seems like a cool cat.
Maybe I'll hang out with him.
And just after that, I think I actually got your info from her.
Yeah.
And that was it.
It just spurred a friendship, and we're very different.
But I will say I've always had a heart for Misfits, probably because I've always been one.
I mean, I think everyone here is a little bit odd.
Or at least different.
Like, we have Smooth Manny.
He's a Columbian from San Francisco, and he's a conservative.
Like, he's a diehard conservative.
I worry about him.
Red-blooded boy.
And then you obviously came in, and the reason I liked you is we connected, and when you came in, like, you know, you weren't ready to edit.
We just needed an editor, and we're like, well, let's see if we can bring him back in part-time.
AudioAid, I don't know, he's probably the most polished person we've had hired, I'm not really a misfit.
So polished.
Even when I used to go to College Republicans, there was an event in Cal Poly, there was a kid, I remember, who had like an Iron Maiden or Megadeth, one of those.
He had that shirt on, long hair, and all these other people looked like, you know, Tucker Carlson, Bowtie Era lookalikes, or Ann Coulter minis, and I just spent almost the whole night talking with him, just because I'm going, how do you, this was long before alt-right, long before this show really existed as it does now, or Milo, or any of these people, you know, where it's sort of become, I don't want to say more hip, but acceptable to be conservative now.
Not much more popular.
I want to say, how do you get in here?
Because I was always an odd one out.
Yeah.
And then the next year, he brought me back to that school, and I didn't even recognize him.
He had a polo, and he had cut his hair.
Get that hair out!
Get the greasy, get the greasy pubes dash going again.
It's off-putting, but not to me.
That's why I'm here.
That's the only reason I like you.
I want to feel those guys, those guys get to feel safe here.
You don't have a greasy pubes dash.
Oh, wow, yeah, that's weird.
I like metal.
I like that kind of stuff.
I bring those guys in.
So do I. So it was kind of funny because, and not funny the situation that happened, but funny how things transpired after that because that person that was a mutual friend who I did not like, though you have said I liked and my wife has said that I liked.
By the way, great girl.
Yeah, great girl.
I want to be very clear.
But I was not interested in her.
She actually kind of predicted, this is one of the rare prophecies that anyone has ever, I just immediately discount them, but she told me that effectively, she's like, I just, I think that you're going to be doing what we're doing right now.
Really?
Yeah.
And it stuck with me.
It stuck with me because she wasn't just, she wasn't just someone who went out.
She said like, I really do think that what you're doing is important.
As I started this direction, she said, I think you need to stay in this direction.
Those people are important.
She also called, she called Hillary as your wife.
Very early on.
That's true.
To me.
That is true.
Because we were good friends.
So the whole story is that I was in ministry school with this group of people, and there was people that were way older than me, there was people that were way younger, but I served in youth as well.
And you taught specifically course in Islam?
I created a class called A Christian's Response to Islam, and I brought speakers together from different places.
Then I taught specifically on Islamic eschatology as it relates to Christian eschatology.
So it was really interesting.
I had a lot of background in that.
You ate Muslim snails?
Not Escargot.
That's a joke I would make.
You're better than that, Steven Crowder.
Wordplay.
But anyway, this person ended up getting in a car accident.
You sitting up there on your perch. It's really easy when you
My gosh, I love it. Okay. No, no this person this person was in a pretty serious car accident
And so you and I actually spearheaded like raising funds with different people that we knew and friends of hers
To buy her a laptop because she was gonna be at home for months recovering and you remember this is when I had
Very little money.
Neither one of us had any money at that point.
Do you remember when you almost hired me for like $20,000 a year?
Yes.
To do beer for your wine license.
Yes, I do.
And I was like, oh, I think I can do this.
Because you love beer.
Yeah, exactly.
That was way back in the day.
I needed the money!
Well, you had me as I was not Muhammad's wife.
That's true.
I mean, that's how broke you were.
You couldn't afford any talent at all.
I'm like, Steven, I don't know how to do any of this.
And you're like, well, just say this like a woman.
We'll put a burqa on you.
And we'll go to the public park and shoot this.
Behind the scenes.
Anyway, she gets into an accident and then you and I kind of came together to help put a campaign together to buy a laptop.
We ended up buying a laptop for this person.
She ended up being kind of heavily involved with your family and so I think that's one of the ways that our friendship connected a little bit more.
Yeah, because it gave us more opportunities to hang out and then we just kind of developed from there and then Ended up being in your your wedding and that was the first time I saw or didn't see Steven naked Do you remember that at the house?
So you get I remember I do remember our wedding Keep us in mind.
This is true.
We were in a house.
It was It was an accident.
My family had a house.
It was a big old house in northern Michigan.
Yeah.
And we ended up somehow in the dinosaur room.
And it was monkeys.
Oh, it was monkeys.
Monkeys, yes.
It kind of looked like Jurassic era.
It did, yeah.
Prehistoric plants, wallpaper, monkeys.
And we were in bunk beds and these were not, these definitely were not, had not been drop tested for adults.
Nope.
And so every time Gerald would move, I was in the bottom bunk, the bed would bow like a hammock.
Oh no.
I just had a nightmare of the second bunk collapsing on me.
I had a nightmare that I made it collapse on you, like right before your wedding, and I'm like, oh god.
And you apparently saw me naked?
So here's what happened.
You went to the bathroom, which was just right outside, and you had the light on.
I'm known for that.
And yeah.
So you had the light on and I was, I got up because I was waiting.
I was like, oh, I really gotta go.
So as soon as you were coming out, I would, but I saw in the light, I couldn't see you.
And so when you came out, you saw me and you're like, ah, and you were naked.
And I'm like, oh, hey, I didn't find out you were naked until the next day.
You were like, I was naked.
And I was like, I had no idea.
I couldn't see.
I still feel like.
You don't really see me.
I don't.
A lot of times.
That's why I hate James Cameron.
At the premiere of Avatar, you see when he walked up to this reporter, like at the premiere, going through the red carpet, and then he goes, ah, numakande, but whatever, something, numakande mana, and she goes, what, that means, what's the name of that, Navi?
That means in Navi, I see you.
And I was like, oh my, please shoot him!
Is he still working on Avatar 2?
Is that still a thing?
I think he's moved on to Avatar 9.
He's trying to work on all of them at the same time, which is taking him decades.
He'll probably die before that ever happens.
But anyway, that was really, that was kind of funny.
That week, I think, is where our friendship really kind of grew a lot, because we spent a ton of time around each other.
Well, I think it's also why we, good examples, comparing that to your wedding, how we sort of counterbalance each other as friends, because you remember how nervous I was.
Yes.
I was like, I'm going to throw up.
But the Bane voice came in really handy during that entire week.
This was the summer of the Dark Knight Rises.
I will tell you this one.
People are like, oh, if you know it's the right person, you'll just know and it'll feel right.
Nothing for me ever feels right.
Ever.
Before I do a show, every single show, I want to leave and quit.
And I feel like I'm going to screw it up.
Before every major decision, I feel all this pressure.
It's just been something that I've had to struggle with and kind of balance.
That's why I need people who I trust in my circle to say, objectively, this is the right decision to make.
Whereas in your wedding, you're like, no, I'm good.
I'm like, oh, well, you know.
I waited a long time.
That's nice.
Exactly.
I didn't know what to expect.
I thought maybe I would be a little bit more nervous.
Not about the person, for sure, but just the enormity of the event.
But I was just like, oh, well.
Were you all nervous at your wedding?
I wasn't at all.
No?
No.
Just me.
Just you, man.
Sorry.
I should also mention that my wife was horribly abusive physically.
Oh.
That seems relatively wrong to me.
I didn't so much have cold feet as I was numb.
She threatened bodily harm.
Yeah.
If you messed anything up.
No, it's just listen different different folks.
Were you about to say something?
We do have another question.
Oh, okay.
One more question then we have to go.
All right.
All right.
Here we go.
Happy Ash Wednesday boys.
That's the best I can do because I'm a Mormon.
I just want to say I appreciate this show so much and Like seriously, thanks for the entertainment and enlightenment.
Crowder, you're my hero, right alongside the Cheeto Dust legend himself.
I have a multi-layered question that I want to ask.
You guys can decide how deep you want to dive, but headlining question being, are you guys car enthusiasts?
And then, what was all yours first vehicle?
And to top it off, who out of you Quarter Black has the most speeding tickets.
Alright, thanks guys.
I appreciate it.
Merry Christmas or something.
Bye.
Well, I appreciate that multi-layered question.
Just like your undergarments, Mr. Mormon.
By the way, Johnny Boy, if you're out there, see if we can push I have a call five minutes late.
I am not a car enthusiast.
I know more about motorcycles than I do about cars because that was sort of my luxury vehicle until I moved from Michigan to Texas and I wouldn't be caught dead in the freeway because I'd be caught dead on a motorcycle.
I just like a car that gets me from point A to point B, but we did get a company car.
We have a used Expedition, because we needed something that was safe, stable, big, and has an outlet, too, so you can plug in your laptop.
And we also had the secret shitty news van before that, but that's for sale, by the way.
It's still back there.
I love that thing.
Yeah, but I don't.
No, I actually do, but after I got into a car crash, my wife was like, you can only be in the safest vehicle that we can find.
Oh, okay.
That's a little rickety.
First vehicle was an 82 Datsun.
82 Datsun 200SX.
Nice.
How much did you pay?
Do you remember?
$652.
Yes.
Because I had an IOU for the 52.
The two.
Nice.
It was from a guy named Sun Savit in Inglewood.
He was Cambodian, and to his credit, he trusted me to pay him.
For the 52?
Yeah.
Yep, and I lived out of it for a while.
I mean, I lived out of it for a long time.
I slept in it for a little while.
I don't want to say I'm not like Jewel, where I was living out of a car forever.
I knew it was for a season.
I didn't have any place to land at this point.
I think I've talked about the union dues that I had to pay, and thank you again, Jordan, for covering those for me before I got into the set of Greek, where my character's name was Jace, but it might as well have been called Drunk Guy Number Two.
Didn't quite have the arc that my agent was anticipating.
That's my motivation.
But it was a Datsun 200SX.
Nice.
Without a driver's side window.
Trash bag worked just as well because it was California.
It almost never rained.
And I actually, I wish I had that car now.
It was very unsafe because I didn't replace the tires and I was down to the metal wiring.
I figured the wires grab a hold of the concrete as you go along.
I got like 38 miles to the gallon on that thing.
This was in California when gas was... Very expensive.
It was, yeah, $5.
Still is.
So, not a car enthusiast, but I like cars that, for me, a car is like an iPhone in the sense that I want a car that I enjoy, I'm comfortable in, it's safe, it gets me from point A to point B. If I could have any car that kind of fits those parameters, it would probably be like a Porsche Cayenne, used, just because it's an SUV, it's practical, but also really fast.
Yeah.
And in riding a motorcycle, you realize that speed is actually safety.
Having that power and reserve.
To get out of the way.
Yeah.
Because you do not want to be in a blind spot on a motorcycle.
So it definitely taught me to be pretty aggressive.
I don't have any speeding tickets.
None?
None at all.
I have ridden with you and you have sped profusely.
Is that the right word?
It's a white privilege.
And I've never—remember the other day when I was looking at Knock on Wood and I forgot the walls?
The walls and the desk.
I picked some faux wood paneling on something.
It was on John's iPhone case.
Johnny Boy's iPhone case.
They're like, how about just anywhere?
But not in a long, long time.
I haven't gotten a speeding ticket.
Have you gotten any in your life?
Two.
Two, okay.
Ever.
So a long time ago, but two.
And I didn't pay the first one, so the second time was actually the day of the Union incident in Lansing, Michigan.
My license was suspended because I didn't pay the first one.
And I forgot about it because it was a ticket that I got in my wife's car at that point.
I was visiting.
It was a city where I didn't live and a car that wasn't mine, and they posted it to an address where I'd never been nor had my wife.
I don't know what happened.
That's weird.
So I went in and they cleared it.
Nice!
That works out.
But for a while it was a felon.
I've known that about you for a long time.
Your first car.
So my first car was a, I don't remember the year, it was sometime like an 80s model Chevy Blazer
with 249,000 miles on it when I purchased it for $1,000 even.
I was very, very poor in my family.
My mom and dad scraped together some money to buy me a car, so I was eternally grateful to have a car.
I didn't care that the passenger side window didn't work.
That was me too.
Like the ceiling was like that thing falling down and you're kind of like bobbing and weaving around it
and pushing it up.
It's lost the NBC.
Pulling a Joe Frazier when you need it.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm just doing training in there.
And so if I could learn one thing a little bit more than I did growing up, it would be cars.
Like I just didn't know anything about cars at all.
My dad was a mechanic when he grew up.
He started working when he was like 14, 13 years old.
He was just an old soul early.
Had a job down at a local mechanic shop.
And then I, right after college, we formed a group and bought a racetrack.
Like a three-eighths mile NASCAR sanctioned racetrack that I was part owner of up in Ohio.
And it was Lorain County Speedway.
And it was it was not going down a rabbit trail and we only have four minutes well
But here's the thing for cars I started learning there a ton about cars and so I had to
work on cars and had to make the rules for all the Right, I will say you're actually a pretty you're a very
good driver, and I will say I am actually pretty I'm an aggressive driver
Yeah, pretty good driver. I am a wait now that I've done did the racing thing. I am way more aggressive
I'm super comfortable being close to you taught me the outside inside out
Yeah, which I didn't learn officially until I took my motorcycle class later. This is what Gerald was talking
about He actually did show me some of the driving tips, for sure.
AudioWed, what was your first car?
My first car was an 07 Jeep Liberty.
Oh wow, that's lovely.
That's not that old.
Not old at all.
Liberty.
Next time you tell the story, it was a Gremlin or a Pacer.
I'm a little child.
And yours?
1968 Ford Mustang.
That was your first car?
Wow!
It was a rust bucket.
I could see the ground under me when I was driving.
That's the best kind!
Like a glass-bottom boat.
Yeah, it was definitely a fixer-upper.
My dad got it for me so we could fix it, and we fixed it up halfway.
Oh!
Those are fun, though.
And then I broke down, and I was like, I can't do this anymore.
That's right.
Well, we also gave you, I think we charged you like $100, because I always want to get a car just so we could change the title, and you have to pay something.
The van, which air conditioning didn't work.
I never heard the end of that.
Not from you.
But it was great.
That car, the interior of that car was a, what, 98 caravan?
It was great.
Yeah.
It was like stepping into 1998.
The interior was brand new.
I loved that van.
And it was temporary, but he had a, you know, he has a whole troop family.
I was like, you know what?
We don't need this car.
I appreciate it.
We appreciate it.
We needed it.
And you can, the windows work, so there's your AC.
Yeah, I remember it used to, it used to, you know, I used to warm my heart when I'd see Garrett pull in.
I was like, oh, he's using it.
He's actually enjoying it.
Because listen, it's not, it's not cool.
It's not a chick magnet.
But it works.
But it was a car that worked.
It's practical.
And I've actually always liked minivans.
He's a quarter black and that's all we could give him.
Yeah, I actually wanted to get a minivan, except they're so expensive used because they keep their resale.
But I would gladly drive a minivan over an SUV.
I prefer SUVs, big time.
Yeah, me too.
I like them a lot better.
I like that they sit a little bit higher and they don't make me look as old as I really am.
I don't like the curves of a van.
I don't mind them.
See, I'm very practical with that stuff.
I just find them very comfortable.
I will say, though, the Expedition that we have, I don't know if we need to bleep that because then people might be looking for it, but there's so many of those.
There's a lot of them.
It is so comfortable to be in that car.
It's big.
It's beautiful.
You know, we got an older car, 38,000 miles, and you just realize, man, why would—I don't understand why anyone would buy a new car.
So, Mr. Cigarless Mormon, I appreciate the question.
I do like the idea of cars.
I just don't know a whole lot about them.
And I want to hear Garrett's ticket stories.
We can do that later.
They're extensive.
Garrett, you win, right?
Yes, I've got at least five.
I want to make sure we at least answer that question.
I've had one speeding ticket.
Every black guy I've ever known has had a lot of speeding tickets.
Uh, that tracks.
Is it?
Yeah.
Because I have this exact conversation.
So when I was in Los Angeles, before I bought the van, I was kicked out of someone's house who was actually a contact from the church where I went there and then I argued with him about Obama.
I think I know who you're talking about.
But then he was talking about being pulled over because he was black, and I was like, you just told me that you had, like, eight speeding tickets in the last two years.
It's the speed.
So, maybe it's not profiling.
Not all the time.
But, and then I went to the church that was primarily black, and all of them had a Thomas.
He had a speeding ticket ministry, you know what I mean?
So I don't know, you know, listen, I'm not asking you if it is, but they all, I lived with three different black families at different points.
I went to two different black churches.
One in, actually three, because technically it was two different forms of the congregation.
One in Jamaica Hills, sorry, one in Forest Hills, one in Jamaica, Queens, and then one in Los Angeles.
They all got up later than most white people that I know, and seemed to have a lot of speeding tickets.
Those are the things that I noticed.
I don't know.
DWB.
Just running late.
DWB.
No, we're just aggressive.
Alright, okay.
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