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April 28, 2017 - Louder with Crowder

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#159 VOX SANCTUARY CITY LIES! Dean Cain and Blaire White | Louder With Crowder

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	The End
	The End Steal me in The End Is blackjack your game?
	It's not so much my game, as it seemed my kind of place.
	I'll stay.
	You sure you don't want to try for more?
	Well, when I see something I like, I know how to hang on to it.
	Interesting philosophy.
	What can you tell me about that mug club?
	I'm just a girl looking for a good time.
	Hit me.
	Are you sure that's what you want?
	Oh, I'm quite sure.
	Positive.
	Hit me.
	That's what I know.
	You're a stranger alone.
	I got to follow.
	I'm a speedy display.
	That's the Ancient Art of Kata.
	We've been practicing that for the last month, because to learn about cultures is to appreciate cultures.
	We have a huge show for you tonight.
	Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay.
	Follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.
	Me at S. Crowder with your comments, conclusions.
	Not the photoshops.
	I fulfill my legal obligations.
	Draw your conclusions, we're good?
	I'm still not good at Kata.
	None of us are good at Kata.
	You know who's great at Kata?
	Who?
	People who can't fight.
	Oh!
	At G. Morgan Jr.
	Yes.
	I wish people could see all your dance moves in the intro.
	Not just a little here and there.
	No, no.
	It's beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	It's strategic.
	You need to pepper it in there.
	Huge show.
	Big.
	Big show.
	We have the return of He's Been Traveling, Europe, All That, New York, Dean K. We're probably not on good terms.
	And then, of course, Blair White.
	Many people have been asking for that for a while.
	I hope it's pleasant.
	I actually am kind of a fan of Blair and some of the content that Blair puts out.
	So we've had differences in the past, but that's what Louder with Crowder is for.
	That and horrible jokes.
	Also, we'll be talking about Vox Sanctuary Cities.
	That's pretty big right now.
	It's obviously in the news, and Vox released a video.
	I've had a lot of requests this week saying, hey, can you get into the Sanctuary City thing?
	I don't exactly understand what this is.
	So we will talk about that.
	But leading this off, the reviews for Bill Nye's series we talked about earlier this week are in.
	Bill Nye's series on Netflix, panned by critics.
	It's been plagued by low ratings, and it seems like it's going to be canceled.
	Bill Nye's allegedly been returning, or planning on returning, to his previous day job of not science.
	Poor guy.
	What can you say?
	Another big thing, Joy Behar, did you see this?
	Joy Behar is in hot water because she compared illegal immigrants to slaves and Jews in the Holocaust.
	It's one of those things when you're thinking about, well, how do you write comedy?
	She already went to slavery and Jews in the Holocaust.
	Usually if someone compares it to slavery, you're like, oh, and someone compared this to Jews in the Holocaust because we're taking it more extreme.
	She just snatched up all the comedy potential.
	She let them know where to go.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Which actually, I mean...
	In comparison, Whoopi Goldberg, her frustrated rant pales recently on her tepid morning coffee being compared to Hurricane Katrina.
	She seems like she didn't...
	She knows now.
	She knows now.
	To walk a mile in their soggy shoes, Whoopi.
	Rob Schneider, this is big in the news right now because he tweeted it out.
	Surprised a lot of people.
	Rob Schneider came out and spoke out against Berkeley and the suppression of free speech.
	You know, he used to be a liberal, Rob Schneider.
	Yeah.
	And he's been coming out more and more.
	It doesn't surprise me hanging out with the Sandler guys.
	They tend to be kind of more libertarian.
	And I'm glad to see some celebrities speaking out with this.
	It really is funny.
	Obviously, it's not funny, but the irony in Antifa being nothing but fascists.
	Yeah.
	Is not lost on people like Rob Schneider, apparently.
	Though some did question his motivations because Berkeley, and I can kind of understand, they put an official moratorium on the upcoming release, Deuce Bigelow 3 Fascist Gigolo.
	So it seems like they had a little bit more of a reason.
	How big is a bird on the foot?
	That's impressive.
	I don't know.
	We spend no expense here at Lauder with Crowder.
	So here's something else that happened at Berkeley.
	It just went viral.
	It was lighting the Twitter ablaze.
	So before we get to Sanctuary Cities, this is the last topic we think we needed to hit on because, gosh, it was flooding my Twitter timeline and we wrote about it at ladderwithcrowder.com.
	At Berkeley, this person was crumpling up a Donald Trump flag, I guess you would say, sort of like a promotional banner.
	And someone called them out for it.
	And this person who is transgender...
	Does what transgenders at Berkeley do.
	Watch the clip.
	Yeah, there's a big man.
	Oh yeah.
	I'm not a man.
	I'm not a man.
	F*** you.
	I'm a f***ing woman.
	F***ing respect that.
	Wait a minute.
	I don't even know what's happening.
	Here's the honest-to-God truth, and maybe we'll have Blair White be a tiebreaker later.
	I read the story at Campus Reform first, and it just said this transgender individual.
	Yeah.
	Which, for those who are wondering, it answers nothing.
	What do you think?
	One may say it poses more questions.
	It creates more questions.
	Because, what do you think?
	Do you think this is a male-to-female transgender, or do you think that's a female-to-male?
	Is it confirmed transgender?
	They just wrote transgenders when the story first came out.
	Transgender.
	It could be a mistaken identity thing, though.
	I can see why.
	What do you think, Gerald?
	I mean, look, look at...
	Do you think male to female transgender?
	Do you think it's female to male transgender at that point?
	I'm going to go with male to female.
	You think it's male to female?
	Who still dresses and looks like a male?
	On accident.
	I don't know how much thought...
	And you had a different theory altogether.
	I think, looking at this individual, it looks like, I would guess, lesbian, actually.
	You just think it's a big old standard lesbian?
	I think we're so quick to pull the training trigger...
	We don't consider...
	Trannies are quick to pull the trigger, unfortunately.
	We don't consider it a good old-fashioned, like...
	I won't lie, that did cross my mind as well.
	Honestly, it is hard to identify, which is, you know, this is what Bill Nye should be using, which is why we go to science.
	It is important that you know this is not a mainstream tranny.
	This is actually the Campusus Transtuticus.
	Okay.
	Which is, as it's known scientifically, this is actually found exclusively on campuses, not to be confused with its parent species, just the average mainstream tranny.
	Because on campus, when you add gender fluidity, of course, the idea of pansexual, there are multiple combinations.
	It's true.
	So in analyzing the specimen using science, we can actually get to the bottom of this.
	We can make an inference.
	Let's do it.
	Science!
	So, okay, in the male to female column, that this might be a male to female transgender.
	Right away, height.
	Obviously, clear-cut, very tall individual.
	That adds a 20% likelihood that this person is a male.
	Co-factor with that is the circumference, the diameter.
	As a matter of fact, it's an exponential gain, not necessarily linear.
	But we're just going, for the sake of argument here, a 60% increased chance of it being a male.
	I don't know if you see this there, Gerald, the cleft chin?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That makes a 14% more likely chance of it being a male.
	So that would seem, if you look at the percentages, which I didn't before this, I didn't add it up at all.
	So please don't fact check our math.
	It would seem pretty heavy this is likely a male.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, okay, because this person says I'm a woman, but why would a male to female transgender look so much like a man?
	So there is an argument to be made that this is a person who is a female to male transgender, but who is fluid and identifies as a female.
	So in the female to male column, there are some things to look for when analyzing the subspecies.
	First off, the complete and total lack of muscle tone.
	As you see, that would be a 40% chance likely to this female.
	Here, the obvious subcontaneous mammary tissue, 32%.
	More likely to be a female.
	If you look at the vocal tones and the body language, it displays great emotional instability.
	82% more likelihood that it's a female.
	Right there.
	And then, of course, this individual claims to be a female, but on campus, that only increases the likelihood of them being an actual female by 1%.
	We should note that with these studies, there is a plus-minus percentage point of inaccuracy.
	So, statistically, it gets us into murky territory.
	So, male to female, female to male.
	Any of you change your opinions?
	No, I'm sticking with it.
	Because there's some detective work.
	Something.
	Upon further inspection.
	Close up, Not Gay Jared.
	When you look at the shirt, the shirt says leftover crack, purgatory.
	And right there, upon further examination, a cat pun t-shirt gives it 100% likely that this is just your run-of-the-mill homosexual thing.
	Scientifically known as the faggist flamboyacist, 100%.
	Ooh!
	Solve that mystery.
	Gosh, that was tough.
	Thank you, science.
	We can't understand.
	There's no rulebook for this.
	You see how hard this is?
	You see what you're doing to us?
	I'm a woman.
	Oh, gosh.
	What?
	And what's so funny is the leftist sites were trying to say this person was provoking the transgender.
	If you watch the video, the person goes, oh, what a big man you are, crumpling up a flag.
	I'm a woman.
	And the guy doesn't respond with a smartass comment.
	He just goes...
	Can you blame me for not knowing that?
	I don't think he set out to insult a transgender that day.
	I think he just was upset at someone behaving like a child, crumpling up a...
	By the way, he has a Nazi patch.
	Where do you buy the Nazi patch outside of actual Nazi Germany?
	I don't know.
	I don't know how this person found time to do that outside of fighting the Incredibles.
	Because when everyone's special, no one is.
	All right.
	Nice.
	Vox Sanctuary Cities.
	This is something a lot of people wanted me to get into Sanctuary Cities, describe exactly what it was.
	And I was going to do it this week, but Vox beat me to it this week.
	And here's the thing.
	If someone disagrees with me, we'll have Blair White who disagrees with me on some issues.
	If someone disagrees with some points of view on this show, that's fine.
	I don't have an issue with MSNBC. You don't really hear us taking a lot of shots at MSNBC, much more so CNN, because Chris Cuomo thinks of himself as, my God, an actual journalist.
	So when Vox goes out and tries to act as though they're simply describing what a sanctuary city is and what's occurring in practice, and you draw your own conclusions when it's clearly biased reporting, that's where my antenna go up.
	So let's let Vox describe for you what a sanctuary city is.
	Sure.
	What are sanctuary cities?
	They're cities and counties in the U.S. that limit their cooperation with immigration enforcement, which falls under federal jurisdiction.
	These policies are different in different places.
	In Chicago, it means city employees aren't supposed to share residents' immigration status with other people.
	In Washington, D.C., it means police officers are barred from asking residents about their immigration status.
	That's actually fair enough, I would say.
	That's pretty accurate.
	Sure.
	For people who, what, you seem suspicious.
	Makes me hate Washington and Chicago.
	Fair!
	They're explaining the situation.
	But they are explaining it.
	I actually think that's a pretty fair initial explanation.
	It basically comes down to cities, and cities that don't have to enforce the federal immigration law.
	Because federally, coming here illegally, is...
	A crime.
	Keyword there, illegally, it's a crime, and the punishment for that crime is really just being deported.
	That's pretty lenient punishment if you think about it.
	Punishment is, eh, you end up back in your room.
	It's a go-to-your-room timeout.
	Only forever.
	And your room is a crap hole if you come from Mexico.
	So, that's what's happening.
	It is local law enforcement in certain cities not being required or refusing to carry out national immigration orders.
	So, it...
	A couple of things there.
	I hate to use the word nuance.
	There's a little bit more to it to that, and we'll get into the rebuttal more with Vox here.
	But that is what it is.
	It really comes down to the feds versus local.
	It's like every old cop movie you've ever seen.
	Oh, criminy, it's the feds.
	All right, kids, scram.
	This is my beat now.
	Hey, what's the big idea?
	I've been working this case for four years.
	Four years?
	There's one thing you better have.
	What's that?
	A good retirement package.
	Ah, get out of here.
	Ah, I'll scram.
	I'll beat it.
	I'll beat it again.
	You know nothing.
	Yeah, low light.
	Why can't you two just get along?
	So, okay, next clip.
	Next clip from Vox.
	But often, it comes down to this: How does a local police officer handle an unauthorized immigrant that he's already arrested for some other reason?
	Was that a question?
	Deport him!
	Deport the person who's here illegally!
	It's pretty simple.
	I don't understand.
	Is this multiple choice?
	We didn't use an H2 pencil.
	It didn't go through the Scantron.
	B, if you need other options, please retire from law enforcement.
	Please refer to A. What?
	Give me your badge and your gun.
	Okay, if that's not enough, if that doesn't seem like the argument is substantiated enough that, hey, you should enforce the law and deport an illegal immigrant, let me throw some numbers at you.
	An illegal immigrant, we've talked about this on the show before, costs the taxpayers about $5,000 annually.
	The cost of incarcerating a felon or one of these illegal immigrants can be $32,000 if they're being arrested for committing a serious crime.
	Comparably, flying them home, courtesy of Ice Air, is between $700 and $2,000.
	Also, they're a criminal!
	So, you've captured someone here illegally.
	Why?
	Through an auxiliary crime which they were committing.
	You've captured them committing another crime.
	That's how you've pulled them over, or you've arrested them.
	And then you happen to find out that they're also here illegally.
	Two double secret crimes.
	Merry Christmas, Officer Krupp.
	It's been gift-wrapped for you!
	Next clip.
	Word gets out around the immigrant community.
	Anytime you interact with local police, it could mean deportation.
	Eventually, immigrants will be afraid to call the police, even when they're the victims of crime or the witnesses to it.
	And then immigrants become easy targets.
	What?
	So if you deport illegal immigrants, other criminals will be afraid to interact with the police?
	Yes.
	Here's the thing, too.
	This is the crux of their argument, too.
	Let me preface this.
	They get into very quickly the constitutionality.
	Now, constitutionally, local law enforcement are not required to enforce federal law, basically law enforcement that would fall under federal jurisdictions.
	Okay?
	However, they're not really being asked to enforce something that would fall under federal jurisdiction.
	What they're being asked to do is provide a 48-hour waiting period for ICE to come in.
	Basically like, okay, hold on!
	I'll get my keys!
	I'm coming to pick them up!
	They're just asking local law enforcement to keep them there long enough so that ICE can come in and do their job and deport these people illegally.
	But let's go with the crux of their argument here, which again goes back to the science of feelings, right?
	As Bill Nye talked about it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The premise, do you really think that illegal immigrants right now are calling their local man in blue, backing the blue fervently for peace disturbances or domestic disputes?
	Los Angeles Police Department.
	Hey man, yeah, like my neighbors are playing their music really loud.
	Okay, can I have their address and your name, sir?
	Shit.
	What?
	They are crafty.
	They need to bring in the feds.
	Okay, since Vox is...
	Hopefully you've realized what's happened.
	They described Sanctuary Cities accurately.
	We are far off on speculation here at this point.
	And we fully admit we provide opinion on this show.
	And fact check us.
	That's fine.
	Sometimes we're wrong.
	Okay, but Vox is trying to present this as a non-partisan view of sanctuary cities.
	So since Vox is speculating here that in what is supposed to be a non-biased video, let's think this through.
	What is it?
	Play it through, as Gavin says.
	Do you really think the net result of enforcing deportation laws will be that tax-paying, police-compliant citizens in a Latino paradise will now become an enclave to crime?
	I don't think the evidence will bear that out.
	As a matter of fact, I think the evidence will show a very contrarian conclusion.
	In late January 2017, shortly after he got into office, President Donald Trump signed an executive order that opens the door to withholding federal funds from sanctuary cities or counties.
	The wording of that order is vague and it's already being challenged in federal court.
	But if Trump's plan does move forward, it could put local law enforcement officers across the country in a lose-lose situation.
	For them, deciding whether to honor a detainer request is often about choosing between financial security on one hand and public safety on the other.
	What?
	First off, what?
	And yes!
	Yes, exactly!
	Okay, if a policeman, sometimes called a lawman, refuses to enforce...
	I've seen the Steven Seagal show.
	If they refuse to enforce the law that ensures the safety and order of its citizenry, the higher-ups or even the taxpayers who fund those who are supposed to carry out the law sometimes cut the purse strings for the lawman.
	Was anyone else not aware of this sort of unwritten...
	Well, actually written, but for most people...
	I thought this was in the contract.
	Can't get it.
	If you don't enforce the law, we remove law from your title.
	And you're just a man or a woman anymore.
	They're like, sir, I'm going to give you $20 for a pepperoni pizza.
	Okay, that's a spicy meatball, because that's what they say.
	And then they take your money, but they don't give you a pizza.
	Yeah.
	And the owner of that place says, well, you know what?
	We're going to fire you.
	Why?
	Because he didn't make pizzas.
	Is that hate speech?
	You racist.
	Well, the meatball was.
	But the analogy remains.
	Next clip.
	If the federal government issues a detainer request and the local police department refuses to accept it, the state government can step in by taking away one of the state funding streams from the local police.
	That's what happened in Texas in 2017.
	The governor of the great state of Texas, Greg Abbott, has declared he will sign a law banning sanctuary cities.
	He's already issued an order that cuts funding to those sanctuary cities.
	This is dangerous and I will not allow it as governor of Texas.
	Okay, here we go.
	Vox's argument, as we see, rests entirely on feelings.
	Again, they're claiming public safety here.
	This is the argument.
	They're saying, well, cops have to choose between deporting illegal immigrants or public safety.
	Or cooperation.
	Yeah, or public safety.
	Well, hold on a second.
	What does that mean?
	Does that mean, are we talking safety of legal immigrants who obey the laws on a day-to-day basis?
	Are we compromising their safety by deporting illegal immigrants?
	Enforcing deportation makes them less safe?
	I'd like to see a reference on this from Vox.
	Any reference.
	Or are we talking about public safety specifically of communities consisting of illegal aliens because they might live in fear of actual laws being enforced?
	It's like they're arguing for drug dealers.
	Hey, somebody stole my drugs.
	Can you, uh...
	What?
	You know what's going to happen.
	You're going to get trumped.
	They're going to say that you just called all Mexicans drug dealers.
	No, no.
	Just comparing it.
	Just comparing it's criminals.
	Gosh.
	Jeez.
	So, instead of that hypothetical that Vox presupposes, let's look at the evidence here.
	Guess what?
	Illegal immigrants here tend to commit significant amounts of crime.
	Not all immigrants, not all immigrants are committing crime, but crime is high in the illegal immigrant community.
	It turns out when you skirt the law and flagrantly disregard the law to get here, and you're not even on the books for the law to find you, you may not have a ton of respect for the law.
	And this is the single issue that brought Donald Trump to power.
	Because people who are here legally, and I come from a family.
	Not a family.
	My mom is French-Canadian.
	She didn't even speak the language.
	She learned the language.
	She's a tax-paying citizen.
	I am the biggest advocate of doing it right by the books that you can find.
	But people are tired of the illegal immigration, and this is what brought Donald Trump to power.
	Everyone thought that he was racist, and they said, Donald Trump's racist for wanting to enforce the laws.
	Let's paint him, let's tar and feather him, and the American people will try and distance themselves from the racism of believing and enforcing immigration laws.
	No.
	He won, and now arrests of undocumented immigrants have gone up 32%.
	And guess what the result of that is?
	I'm going to guess the immigration might be down a spidge.
	Down 61%.
	The immigration down 61% since election day.
	Even PolitiFact says it's mostly true.
	And mostly because apparently we need more data to be drawn on this and also because it's PolitiFact and they suck.
	So even they say mostly true, 61% since election day.
	Significant.
	What is the net result here, if we think about it?
	Is the net result, again, if you start enforcing immigration laws, all that's going to happen is we're going to see communities decimated and people are going to be less safe?
	Or if you enforce immigration laws on illegal immigrants, instead of sauntering on over and having every Tom, Dick, and Harry and member of the Latin Kings following suit, they're going to say, Don't come!
	This guy, you mean what he say!
	You mean what he say!
	I can't!
	They fly me back on ice air!
	You mean what he say!
	No freaking flower mouths.
	He wants a blackout baby, man! - - It's not playing around!
	I thought I was getting double miles that old blackout day!
	God!
	So maybe when we're seeing, we're going to get lit.
	And I'm the one that's in trouble.
	You're in trouble.
	I didn't say they were drug dealers.
	I just did a racist accent.
	So maybe, when you look at the result, we deport illegal immigrants, illegal immigration goes down, and crime seems to go down in cities with illegal immigration along with it.
	Maybe, maybe, just maybe the public safety issue that we're talking about, the public safety, meaning those who are legally documented, law-abiding citizens, Maybe all of this evidence points toward the fact that the goals are not incongruent, that police don't have to decide between enforcing immigration laws and keeping the public safe, but that actually enforcing immigration laws does keep the public safe.
	Oh, Vox, you almost had us too.
	Dean Cain coming up next.
	Home Body Break with Steven Crowder and Not Gay Jerry. .
	Thank you.
	Summer's a great time to be active outside and enjoy your favorite activities, like tending to this garden.
	But it's not without its pests, as you can see with these bees.
	I'm highly allergic.
	The good news is that you can create a homemade solution without the use of any synthetic, unnatural, or harshful chemicals that could harm the environment.
	Just mix three parts vinegar and a couple drops of peppermint in a household spray bottle.
	Mix and allow to sit for 20 minutes.
	Then gently spray on the affected area and watch as your unwanted guests return to greener pastures.
	The key is to find the effect...
	Oh my god!
	The peppermint was supposed to help!
	Why were there so many of them?
	Home Body Break with Steven Crowder and Not Gay Jared.
	Sponsored by Mug Club.
	I figured our next guest would appreciate the kata because that's actually, it's a big part of the ancient Japanese way.
	And I think he's like a 16th Japanese.
	What is he anyway?
	I don't know.
	Why is he?
	But you know him.
	You love him.
	He's one of the regulars here on Ladder with Crowder.
	at real Dean Cain, and you and Dean are good.
	We're good now.
	Dean, thanks for being on the show, brother.
	We're good.
	We're good now.
	I thought we talked about this.
	Yeah, let's talk about it afterwards.
	Oh, you said don't talk about it on the air.
	That's fine with me.
	Let's just avoid talking about it now.
	That's fine with me.
	You go ahead and be that way, Jared.
	We'll just push it to the side for now.
	So you've been hosting the Today Show a lot, and you were talking about your recent project there.
	Tell us about this documentary, because I wanted to talk about something else from your Twitter, because as you know, that's always news now.
	But tell me about this documentary first.
	Alright, there's two documentaries.
	One's a feature.
	It's called Architects of Denial.
	It comes out October 6th.
	And the other is a television special.
	It comes out later in the fall.
	And they're both dealing with genocide in a way.
	Specifically, Architects of Denial is dealing with genocides that occur all over the world and have occurred.
	Specifically targeting the Armenian Genocide that started in 1915 until 1923.
	Where 1.5 million Armenians were killed, 900,000 Greeks and 750,000 Assyrians, just a whole bunch of people, awful stuff.
	We hadn't even coined the term genocide at that point in time.
	It didn't catch on.
	It became more of a fad later on, the genocide.
	It wasn't hot yet.
	Well, you know, the honest truth is Hitler has that quote and he says, you know, after all, who remembers the Armenians?
	And that's what it's about.
	Because if you don't call it what it is and you don't name it and label it, you can just pretend, you know, it never existed.
	It's that history written by the victors kind of thing.
	So this documentary goes and explores that, goes through it all, provides it more incontrovertible proof.
	And it's hopefully something that can shine a light on the situation.
	So people like – there are people who deny it.
	Do you know anybody who denies it?
	Yeah, well, you know, it's funny that you lay that up for me.
	Cenk from The Young Turks, he wrote a whole – yes, he wrote a whole – I don't know who lays up like this.
	Is that – what kind of – It's a figural.
	You've got to be high up.
	You've got to be real high up.
	Apparently Dean Cain moonlights the Harlem Globetrotter.
	He does!
	I knew about this.
	Yeah, there are some people out there who deny it.
	And I'll be honest, I don't know a ton about it outside of what I've read because I knew that this guy denied it.
	We briefly touched on it in history class, and I thought, well, you know, hold on a second.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Oh, nice mug there.
	I thought, maybe I'm wrong.
	And then when I looked into it, it did seem like incontrovertible proof.
	Why is it an issue that some people deny ever occurred?
	You'd have to ask Chink that question.
	I'd love to see him on your show.
	That'd be fantastic.
	I'd love to see that.
	I would watch that for sure.
	Yes.
	I think, you know, and even calling themselves the Young Turks, I mean, those are the groups that perpetrated the genocide.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	People deny it because it's ugly.
	You know, there's a lot of things you don't want to face.
	You look at the stuff that we did, you know, in the United States to the Native American population.
	There's some ugly stuff.
	But if you own it, you can move on.
	You can call it what it is and you move on.
	Obviously, I didn't do it.
	You didn't do it.
	But our ancestors did.
	That's what took place, and calling it what it is is very important.
	People want to deny it, they want to make it go away and pretend it never existed.
	It's like, you know, the Iranians denying the Holocaust.
	Good luck with that, but, you know, Ahmadinejad, I remember seeing him go, oh, there was no Holocaust.
	That kind of stuff is insane.
	Also, none of our men here like dick.
	It does not happen in Iran.
	They're all about the Punani!
	You stop!
	It goes back to Baghdad Bob, you know?
	The Americans are committing suicide by the hundreds at the gates of Baghdad!
	No, bro, they're not.
	No, no, no, they're not.
	As a matter of fact, if you look at the heat-seeking cameras from the American war jets going overhead, you can just see guys in the hills.
	They get lonely!
	Dean, let me ask you this.
	So you tweeted this out, and I don't want to be one of the guys who just, boom, catchy headline.
	Someone said you should run for office, and you did say you were seriously considering that now.
	Because we've asked you that before, and you're like, ah, probably not.
	Are you seriously considering that, or was that tongue-in-cheek?
	And do you need a running mate?
	Hopper and I, let's do it again.
	You know, here's the thing.
	There's times where politics are – my business is ugly.
	It's ugly, but politics is really ugly.
	Not when you're in it.
	I'm looking at our new senator, our newly elected senator from California, our U.S. senator, Kamala Harris, and the things she was tweeting – I've never looked at her Twitter feed.
	I started looking at her Twitter feed and I started losing my mind.
	One of them in particular was, an undocumented immigrant is not a criminal.
	Yes, it is.
	Yes, you are a criminal.
	So I tweeted back, in what country?
	In what country?
	Because pick another country.
	You try to go to Canada or Mexico or somewhere in Europe, guess what?
	You're a criminal.
	Well, Mexico, they're pretty rough on that, too.
	You don't necessarily get out unscathed.
	Did she respond to you?
	No, of course not.
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, you're still Dean Cain, so I thought you might be like, oh my gosh, Dean Cain!
	But you're a dick!
	But still, call me!
	I don't know if she responds to a lot of stuff.
	I just see a lot of rhetoric coming out that is right on the party line that's extremely left.
	Now, I'm socially very liberal.
	So, in California, if I decided to run for U.S. Senate, if Feinstein does go ahead and retire, if that's the case, you know, being socially liberal but fiscally and foreign policy-wise being very conservative, I think that matches up Countrywide very well and certainly within California.
	So we'll see.
	The only thing is, you sure it's a good idea to keep appearing on this program, if that's the case?
	I am not afraid at all.
	I'm not a rule.
	I'm a rule breaker.
	I just won't.
	I'm not going to fall in the party line.
	Well, the only one who has continued to do that is Senator Ted Cruz and Governor Mike Huckabee.
	Carlos Pereira fell off with some politicians and then afterward, oh my gosh, they probably spot the tranny and they did some jokes.
	I think it's changed now.
	For better or worse, I think Trump has opened that up where people are like, well, okay.
	So he was on a show where someone said something offensive or one time he tweeted something that someone didn't like.
	Like, I don't think that's enough of a deal breaker with the voters anymore, aside from the ones who will hate you anyway.
	Well, I agree with that.
	I think that's a good thing.
	It's better that way because at the end of the day, I don't care what image you're going to project out there.
	You're still a human being and you still do all the regular things and make silly jokes.
	Jokes have become this thing that is such a big deal.
	Jokes have to be made.
	There must be jokes.
	If there's not jokes, if you can't joke about something, if it's so serious you can't joke about it, then it's either, you know, horrific, like gassing children in Syria or you have no sense of humor.
	Not saying that gassing children in Syria is funny.
	I'm not saying that.
	And we will not write jokes about that into tomorrow's show map.
	Not happened.
	Just because Dean came with.
	Yeah, you know, it's one of those things, whenever someone comes out and they say in public, like, can you believe that so-and-so said this?
	And even if it's a...
	For example, what was it?
	That commentator we were talking about, and the Young Turks were talking about it.
	He said Serena Williams and her boyfriend-husband were having a baby.
	He said, oh, so that baby, it's going to be like chocolate milk.
	That was it.
	And they're like, can you believe he said that?
	Like the color, like a light brown?
	Yeah.
	Chocolate milk.
	I mean, it was one of those things that couldn't possibly be less controversial.
	And then it makes you do some research.
	We were talking about it yesterday because they say this person is actually nicknamed nasty.
	I'm like, well, hold on a second.
	You just said that him saying chocolate milk is nasty.
	So why is he nicknamed nasty?
	Is it because he says non-nasty things like this?
	And I think it actually forces more people to look into your history, to look into context, and they realize it's not all that offensive because the left has pushed everything as offensive.
	I don't think almost anything is offensive.
	I'm not getting offended by stuff, and I think that's the way it should be.
	On my Twitter feed, I do have a quote from Martin Luther King talking about his I have a dream speech and talking about how he has a dream that one day his children will be judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of their character.
	I don't see race.
	I don't see sex.
	I don't see sex.
	Of course everyone sees sex.
	We work on the internet, buddy.
	But I don't see it.
	I don't care.
	None of that means anything to me, so there's no special dispensation to anybody.
	If you don't see sex with Dean Cain, if you don't care, you're dead.
	You're dead if you don't see sex with Dean Cain.
	Sorry, Dean.
	I'm sorry.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to make a gif.
	You know, it doesn't matter how you pronounce it, someone right now on Twitter will say that you're wrong.
	So I've done both, either way.
	And you know what I say to that person?
	They're wrong.
	Yeah, I know.
	And now you're going to never-ending tweets.
	Never-ending tweets.
	It's like the caliber war, where you're like, hey, 9mm to.45 only, and then someone comes in.
	It just never, ever goes away.
	And then your career's over, and then you're...
	I don't mind the stopping power of.45.
	I'm just going to throw it out there.
	Okay.
	I don't mind it.
	No, I don't mind any of it.
	I just think...
	I'd rather someone carry a.38 or a.380 than nothing.
	They're like, well, you might as well just carry a pointy stick.
	I'm not so sure about that.
	That pointy stick will go through you all the way a few times.
	Yes, exactly.
	It'll puncture some holes.
	So, Dean...
	So...
	So it could be a possibility if you maybe think about running for office.
	I would encourage you to because obviously you remove a lot of the arguments of the left that you're a Nazi, you're hateful because you've got some ethnicity in you.
	I don't know what it is, but it's enough to check a box.
	It's Japanese.
	I don't qualify as white, I guess.
	Right.
	Let me put it this way.
	I have more Japanese in me than Elizabeth Warren has Native American.
	This is true.
	Or do I? There's a joke.
	See, that's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	It's a joke about the Land O'Lakes butter lady.
	And then let us know if you do.
	And we will want to talk about it and have you on and discuss this documentary.
	We have to get going.
	We have Blair White coming up.
	At Real Dean Cain.
	Man, I'm looking forward to it.
	We'll see.
	Maybe he'll be one of our elected representatives.
	Stay tuned.
	Blair White.
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	Glad to have our next guest on.
	Long time coming.
	Yeah, at MissMSBlairWhite on Twitter.
	The channel is BlairWhiteX, I believe, on YouTube.
	Blair, thank you for being on the program.
	Yeah, thanks for having me.
	This is highly requested, I think, on both ends.
	It is.
	I know.
	And you did not like me at one point, and I was saddened because I've actually always liked some of your content, even if we don't always agree.
	And I'm glad that we're finally able to get you on the show.
	Yeah, I think that was like a year ago that we had our little Twitter spat.
	And you could still dislike me.
	Most people do.
	I wouldn't blame you at all.
	No, sometimes you kind of annoy me, but I still like your content overall.
	I mean, I think we have that in common.
	I hate myself.
	Believe me.
	This is the right place for self-loathing.
	So Blair, for our audience, people who might not necessarily be familiar with you or people listening sort of terrestrially, explain to them, I mean, you're transgender.
	Would you consider yourself, I don't want to mislabel you, conservative, libertarian, alt-right, just sort of a Trump fan.
	How would you consider yourself?
	I am a Nazi.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	There you go.
	Oh, and YouTube just demonetized us.
	Sorry.
	I have always roughly described my political leanings as center-right.
	And I actually just took the political compass test and it came out as pretty much exactly center-right.
	So I guess that's fair to say.
	Okay.
	What is that like?
	I think you're friends with Theron Meyer.
	We've had Theron Meyer on the show.
	It must be pretty tough.
	Because obviously, you know, transgenders get ostracized, and we're no strangers to great tranny jokes in this show, but we're no strangers to any jokes in this show.
	We're not going to lie about it.
	But then, so you get that side of it, but then you get the hate, the spite from the left being an expected sort of contributing member of the far-left LGBTQAI. Actually, IA. I just read this yesterday in Austin.
	IA is how they're labeling it.
	They changed it again.
	They changed it again.
	Damn it.
	It's QIA and then another A. It's two As.
	For Ally?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
	I don't know how much you know about the general reaction to my channel from that side of the political spectrum, but I'm basically seen as the antichrist of the transgender community.
	It's really ridiculous.
	I just go against quite a lot of what, especially transgender activists preach, because I think that a lot of the times the people that they prop up to advocate on their behalf and speak about their issues Okay, I was going to say that.
	You really do.
	It must be tough to get the short end of the stick, because I tell you what, we get, on a personal level, I will say this, behind the scenes, nearly every transgender person outside of Theron Meyer we've had in the program has been a crazy person, and we've either had to block them afterward.
	We had people send us books.
	You know, who we just respectfully disagreed with.
	I won't name names, but people can go watch them.
	The longest emails you have ever seen.
	And we're like, gosh, you know, so when these people go out and they're your ambassadors, you must be sitting there with just, it must be like a permanent bruise in your forehead.
	Yes, because I don't like the fact that transgender is politicized at all, because to me, it needs to remain a medical issue, a psychological issue, you know, an issue of neurology and shit.
	Like, it shouldn't be...
	I don't know if I can curse.
	I'm sorry.
	You can't.
	Jared's job is just harder.
	Okay.
	It shouldn't be politicized at all.
	So if it is going to be politicized, I at least want, like, smart people advocating for it, and there just isn't.
	Yeah.
	Instead, you get, you know, the Stephanie, whatever his name is, the 35-year-old.
	Oh, Stephanie.
	Willisakowicz or something.
	Stephanie.
	Very clever naming there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you get, like, Caitlyn Jenner, who every once in a blue moon said something smart, but is overall just a really creepy individual.
	You get just the worst people.
	And so I'm sitting here, I mean, I'm not gonna lie, like, in my life, Being trans is not that huge of an issue.
	I don't walk around and feel the weight of these activists because I have a normal life.
	But having these conversations online, it is frustrating to get conflated with those people so often.
	Well, let me ask you this, because I also know conservatives, they'll host you, and then they'll just do an about-face.
	face.
	So I try and be transparent about where I line up.
	Um, who concerns you more?
	These activists who represent you or maybe people like me who are more conservative going, you know what?
	I understand the bathroom issue for parents and kids.
	And, uh, it's a conversation that needs to be had.
	What is it for you?
	That's more troubling.
	Which side?
	I find that the people on the right, I relate to a lot more because to me, they're just easier to Whereas the people on the left, they tend to just be very religious about the beliefs on this topic.
	So for me, I definitely do get more shit from the left.
	But as far as the bathroom issue, neither side has really done a good job of convincing me that this issue matters as much as people want it to be.
	People pretend it is.
	You have on the right, you have the people who, you know, there's often this talking point of if trans people use the bathrooms they want, there's going to be a surge of rapes and assaults and all the worst things in the world.
	And on the left, you have people saying that, you know, If trans people can't use the bathrooms that they want or that they identify with, that they're going to be assaulted and murdered in the bathroom and they're going to kill themselves over the stress of it.
	And I'm just like, oh my God, all these histrionics over bathrooms.
	It's like, I don't like being expected to suspend my knowledge of how the real world works to have these arguments.
	Because in the real world, none of this is happening in bathrooms.
	None of it.
	So not suspending belief in the real world.
	So not a big Bill Nye fan, I'll take it.
	He did this whole spectrum.
	Here's the issue I think a lot of people didn't understand.
	So you had Charlotte, right, and there was a city ordinance, basically said, you have to let anyone use any bathroom they want.
	And then the state said, no.
	You know, that's not what we're going to do.
	And because businesses are going to be harmed with this, no, we're going to make it.
	You use your biological gender.
	And then so I would imagine we'd probably agree that if a private business wants to make a decision, you know, for example, in New York, landlords can be sued for using improper pronouns.
	I mean, it is a rule book that changes, I would imagine, even for you.
	It's hard to follow sometimes.
	We don't know what we're supposed to do or say.
	And then, of course, people like me don't do it anyway.
	That's why I have so much sympathy, because.
	Trans people have been around for a long time, but the issue and the politicization of trans people is, what, three or four years old?
	I mean, this issue came up in 2013 or something.
	So, to me, I have no expectation for anyone who, you know, this isn't a part of the world to, like, fully understand it, especially when, like you said, the rulebook does change so often.
	There are people in the trans community that take issue with the fact that I say the word transsexual because they think that it should be transgender because it should be more all-encompassing.
	There are people that say that I can't say the word tranny because that's a slur and it's equated with the N-word.
	It's like, it just changes so much.
	How can you affect outsiders?
	I noticed you didn't just say the T-word.
	Yes.
	You didn't just say the T word.
	Exactly.
	That shows you how different it is.
	Well, you know what?
	That's because I got a lot of flack at one point.
	It's interesting that you bring up transsexual.
	And this was because I had a psychiatrist on my show who works with a lot of transsexual people as well as transvestites.
	And she made the differentiation.
	And she said transvestites are people who dress up in women's clothing.
	Sometimes they put on makeup.
	But they don't go through the sexual reassignment surgery.
	Yeah.
	And I said, okay, do most transgenders go through the sexual reassignment?
	She said, no, less than 12%, which is the high figure.
	She said, no, more of today's transgenders would have much more in common with yesterday's transvestites than actual what was determined transsexuals.
	And people got really mad when I tweeted that out.
	I'm not saying I'm right, but it does seem within the bounds of reason you.
	You can tell me why I'm wrong.
	I'm open to it.
	No, that was actually, I think, the spat that we had a year ago when you said that.
	And honestly, since then, I've really come to see your point because when I initially got angry at you for saying that, I think I was like a month or two into doing YouTube videos and I had not really dove into the trans community and how they really feel.
	I always assumed all trans people were just like me.
	me.
	And so coming from that assumption, you see someone saying that trans people are never from like cross-dressers and transvestites.
	And I'm like, well, yes, I am.
	But then you look at the fact that the definition of trans has been expanded so greatly that Yeah.
	You're a rarity.
	I will say this.
	You're a rarity.
	Because we had a mayor on here, Jess Herbst, who said, you know, well, the problem is for people like me, barely passables.
	Well, this mayor tossed on a muumuu and called her...
	The muumuu.
	You know what I mean?
	That was it.
	Like, obviously, there's some buy-in here, Blair.
	I salute that.
	And that's, I think, what's inflated the number.
	I'm sure you've seen, like, the number of transgenders in the United States has gone up so rapidly.
	Well, most of them are not super committed, and a lot of them just go back.
	Yeah, and what concerns me even more than that, because listen, people can call themselves whatever they want, you can label yourself as non-binary, transgender, transsexual, trans, aunt eater, I don't care.
	But the thing is, what concerns me is the amount of new cases of trans children.
	I think in London, there's like a four times increase in the amount of kids being referred to gender clinics in hopes of, you know, going on puberty blockers and hormones and I don't know if you know my stance on kids transitioning, but I am vehemently against it.
	So that concerns me even more.
	There's a difference, right?
	But I also think children should not be in charge of making any serious decisions regarding their life's path, certainly not sexuality at that point in their life or gender.
	Common sense, right?
	Right.
	When I was a kid, I said, when I grew up, I want to be a woman so that I can still have sleepovers.
	My brother and I shared bunk beds.
	And I was like, oh, that's going to be a bummer.
	I want to be a woman when I grow up so I can share bunk beds with my brother and be his wife.
	My parents were like, you don't know how that works.
	But now, you know, you watch the Jenner special, and this person goes, well, my daughter said I'm a boy.
	That's it.
	How much more clear can you get?
	I'm like, be a parent.
	She's four.
	Yeah.
	It's ridiculous.
	And, you know, the idea that, because this is the part that people don't like talking about, and I don't even see enough You know, conservative talking points about this, which should be, I think, the main focus if you're trying to argue against children transitioning.
	The fact that transitioning sterilizes you.
	Going on peer reblockers makes it so you can never have children.
	That's a huge deal.
	To me, the conversation should just end at that.
	I don't think beyond that there should be any more conversation.
	But there is.
	It's very frustrating.
	So that's why I always bring up first.
	It's like you really think a 13-year-old She has the capacity to decide that they don't want to ever have kids.
	I transitioned at 20.
	And I haven't even been thinking about it because even at 20, most people don't think about having kids.
	And now I'm sterile and I can never have kids, which is really shitty because, you know, I assume as I get older, I might want some.
	So it's frustrating.
	So you have some issues even with the transition because there are ramifications that now might change your outlook, you think?
	Well, there are ramifications.
	I will say this.
	From the time I was this big, I was struggling with gender dysphoria, and it only got worse as I got closer to adulthood.
	And so I came to a crossroads where I said I can live with this debilitating thing that's affecting my life the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep, or I can transition.
	And I would never take it back because my quality of life has increased more than I could ever say.
	But I would never endorse transition per se.
	And the reason I say that is because I think there's a specific small group of people in which transitioning will actually alleviate your dysphoria.
	I mean, no offense, Crowder, but if you suddenly picked up and transitioned, I don't think you'd be able to alleviate any dysphoria.
	I don't think you'd be able to...
	No.
	A full sex change is not going to alleviate this mess here either way.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So the fact that transition is...
	Posed as the cure is, I think, troubling because it's just not effective for most people.
	And you see that with the suicide rates transition, which are very similar.
	So for me, it's hard to say don't do it because it is kind of your best bet.
	There is no cure.
	But part of the problem with accepting transition as the end-all be-all is it becomes politically incorrect to speak against it, and then there's no funding or research into finding an actual cure.
	So it's interesting.
	Okay, a couple things.
	It's interesting that you say cure because people are now going to lump you in with Mike Pence.
	You know, they're like, oh, you're saying cure transfer.
	You know, but you're right.
	I did notice, you know, when I've watched your content and I've read your tweets where you readily admit that the suicide rate actually doesn't get It doesn't get much better.
	In some studies, it actually gets worse, the more comprehensive studies that come through.
	And it really is fascinating to see.
	You're straightforward about that.
	So you say cure.
	Well, what do you mean as far as research, like a cure for gender dysphoria?
	How would you categorize gender dysphoria?
	And how do you want to see it cured, to use your word?
	Well, it's not how I would classify it.
	I mean, gender dysphoria is classified by the DSM as a mental disorder.
	And so, you know, I'm not...
	I'm an expert, so I can't sit here and say this will be the cure, we should look into this.
	But I would like there to be something you can take.
	I'm not advocating conversion therapy, which is More often than not, throughout history, it's proven to be more barbaric and less helpful than helpful.
	But the fact that as of now, in 2017, the only answer people have is transitioning when it's so faulty, I just wish there was something else.
	Because it's very hard to explain to someone who, this is not a part of their world, how debilitating gender dysphoria is.
	And I know that on the outside, it just sounds like, oh, someone's unhappy with their gender, get over it.
	But it is actually very...
	It'll F you up.
	So, for me...
	I would love for an end to people suffering, you know?
	And people twist that.
	And I had a debate recently with a non-binary gender queer feminist who said that I was advocating for trans genocide because I wanted there to be a cure.
	He's like, oh, you want there to be no more trans people?
	I'm like, how do you twist that?
	Actually, I don't want anyone else to suffer with this issue because it is an issue.
	Well, I mentioned that it's interesting that you say that because, first off, depending on the medical governing body, some of them have said, oh, no, it's not a mental disorder now.
	And we had a psychiatrist who said a lot of this is political.
	She said that she treats it that way.
	We've had several who have discussed and have to discuss off air because they're afraid of getting their license revoked if they say this is a psychiatric condition.
	Listen.
	I've suffered, I've talked about this, from mental health issues as far as ADHD, which manifests itself as depression.
	And it's one of those things I try and talk about in the show, so if hopefully anyone else is out there, they can seek help.
	A lot of the time, that is therapy, sometimes medicinal, sometimes psychiatric is necessary.
	So I'm not a stranger to that, and I am aware of how that can make people unhappy.
	My issue is when we say, okay, listen, the suicide rate doesn't get any better.
	We don't think that putting people in a shallow grave with a 41% suicide rate is helping them.
	It doesn't mean we hate someone by saying, you know what?
	It won't.
	Stephanie is comedic gold, you know?
	Well, it's comedic, but it's also disturbing.
	It is disturbing.
	At first, you're like, oh, haha, then you're like, oh, that's like a thing, okay.
	Yes, that's pretty rough.
	So, I mean, do you understand that from that point of view?
	People who maybe disagree and say, like, listen, I don't know that transgenderism is a thing other than a mental disorder, and we want to help you, and sometimes that's a different route than the transgender community wants.
	Yeah, I will say sometimes, you know, the fact that it's a mental disorder can be weaponized, and I think that's shitty.
	I think that sometimes the conversation just ends with someone saying, oh, you're sick.
	It's like, okay, but would you say that to anyone else with any other kind of disorder?
	I don't think so.
	But I completely understand that the left tends to...
	Make moral arguments rather than logical ones in the sense that someone saying, hey, doesn't look like it's helping that many people by transitioning.
	Maybe we could seek other options.
	Suddenly it becomes, oh, you want them to kill themselves.
	They're so histrionic about it.
	If you don't support it, then they're going to kill themselves.
	That's not on me, first of all.
	Right.
	Second of all, me advocating for, you know, a cure or people to look into a cure isn't transgenocide.
	So I relate to that because I get the same thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's interesting that we're talking about this.
	I'm glad I think we agree on more than we disagree.
	I think the one issue on which we disagree is, and here's the thing.
	We disagree, but my point is this.
	Unlike people like Bill Nye, I'm willing to engage in a conversation.
	If I cite a study that the changes occur after cross-hormone sexual replacement therapy, I know there are studies that would contradict that, and then I know there are subsequent studies that contradict that.
	I don't have the time with every single article or video to say, well, in this study, there's this study, and go down the tree branch.
	But I'm willing to entertain the idea of a conversation, even if we disagree.
	The issue, and I think what's going to be bad for the trans community, is people like Bill Nye, first off, who No, and you know Some people view me as like an advocate of sorts, just on the other side.
	It was never really my intention.
	In fact, when I first started my channel, I spoke mostly about men's rights and I would speak about anti-white sentiments in the media and stuff like that.
	And I think it's just kind of a byproduct that a lot of people come to my channel and their only perception of trans people before me was the Riley Dennis's and the Milo Stewart's of the world and what Bill Nye says.
	And so it's like refreshing to them.
	So I guess it's like byproducts.
	But I'm by no means an advocate and by no means a spokesperson for the trans community.
	I just kind of speak from my experience and what I research.
	Yeah, but that's also very moving, I think, to a lot of people.
	You know, we have Chad with AIDS in the show who talks about the gay community.
	He's gay.
	He talks about the gay community and he talks about the HIV epidemic.
	You know, he had someone who was a gift giver and he's talked about this in the community.
	Yeah, he was sexually molested and HIV. And so he advocates for disclosure laws.
	And then we had, what's his name, Zach Ford from ThinkProgress, who advocates against disclosure laws.
	I feel like when you hear people, or I think, I shouldn't say feel like, I think people like you and myself can find a lot more common ground against someone who's saying, you know what, I think it should be a crime to ask people to disclose their AIDS with sexual partners.
	I think this is so radical, but they, again, the radical left...
	Yeah, and I think with most things, the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
	And especially with this issue, people tend to talk past each other.
	And it's frustrating because, like I said, I don't like the politicization of it.
	I would prefer if this stayed in the medical field entirely because, in my opinion, that's the only place that it can be discussed properly.
	And there are even issues over there when they discuss it because there's conflicting studies, like you said.
	Sure.
	I mean, we talked about the suicide rates of trans people.
	There are also a lot of studies that show that the suicide rate becomes less common with familial acceptance and having a supportive family, which I think is great.
	And so I think that's an important message to put out there.
	But what I think is also important to say is that...
	There should be no authoritarianism surrounding this topic.
	There shouldn't be laws that dictate how you should interact with people.
	I think that's crazy, and I think it's a bad look.
	Why would someone ever want to hire a trans person who instantly becomes a liability to their business if they slip up on a pronoun?
	That's why I say, even though on the surface it may seem like I would have more of an issue with you, It actually is them, because they're the ones that put me in this position in the first place.
	Right.
	And a lot of them aren't willing to entertain a discussion.
	Even if you said, you know what, I'm going to come double barrels blazing, I have a problem with what you said, we'd still welcome you on the show.
	I mean, I'd like to think we have a pretty decent track record of doing that.
	It's just pretty hard to get people who disagree with us on the program.
	So it's rare that we get productive discussions.
	But, hey, let me ask you this.
	Maybe you can be a tiebreaker here.
	Did you see the Berkeley...
	Well, I don't know.
	It was reported as a transgender.
	Did you see the Berkeley transgender who ripping up the Trump thing and threatening to beat the crap out of the guys?
	The big redhead.
	Okay.
	Is that a male-to-female transgender?
	Is that a female-to-male?
	Is it just a genderqueer person?
	Because we couldn't figure it out.
	And the article just said transgender.
	I probably have about as good of an idea as you do.
	Okay, okay.
	But from what I read, I think it was a male to female transsexual because they got, well, transsexual, trans person, because they got upset over being called male.
	So you think it's male to female?
	Again, we're talking about the representation thing.
	There was Zoe Tur, I think was their name.
	Yeah, almost strangled Ben Shapiro.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like, what better argument for the fact that, like, trans women are, like, inherently feminine and, like, female-brained to have these burly, like, dudes walking around threatening to kick people's ass.
	Like, stop.
	Just stop.
	Well, here's the thing.
	I don't know, because if it is a male-to-female, we actually were doing a whole analysis earlier.
	If it is a male-to-female transgender, it's a male-to-female transgender who then dresses and cuts women.
	I don't know the rule book at this point.
	And what's funny is I saw the leftist kind of reporting on it.
	You know, this guy committed hate speech.
	I don't think the guy knew that was a transgender when he said, oh, big man, you know, like crumpling up the flag.
	And then he goes, I'm a woman.
	And the guy doesn't say anything.
	He's like, that's it.
	This is what I said before.
	It's about suspending...
	Being forced to suspend your knowledge of how the real world actually works.
	When it comes to pronouns, people act like it's a thought process.
	It's not.
	Using someone's pronouns is a subconscious judgment based on secondary sex characteristics.
	In other words, what you view someone as.
	Someone walks into a store, they look like a woman, you're going to say, ma'am, it's not a thought.
	And so this idea that you should walk around and like...
	Ask people their pronouns before you talk.
	It's just not real.
	Right.
	It doesn't work like that, you know?
	Yeah.
	Well, and that's why I didn't use pronouns when I brought you on the show because I'm liable to slip up.
	With you, I would probably very likely just instinctively say she.
	With Mayor Jess Herbst, it would be a struggle for me to not say he because I'm looking at a man, you know?
	Yeah.
	It's just instinctive.
	So I just try and avoid it because I know I'll make the mistake and step on that landmine at some point.
	Yeah, it's...
	But then there's also the people on the other side who act as if they will only ever use the pronouns that are congruent with someone's biological sex.
	And that's not real either.
	Because if you and I were to go to dinner just to hang out and you got there after me and I was already there and you told the person at the front of the restaurant, I'm here to see my friend and you said, the guy in the red shirt and I'm wearing the red shirt.
	Right, yeah.
	He didn't know.
	Again, he's not hateful.
	And even if we disagree with the sort of modern transgender movement, it doesn't mean that the pronouns are a manifestation of hate.
	It is bizarre, and I think Bill Nye is the worst.
	But I'm glad to have a tiebreaker.
	So there you go.
	There you go.
	Male to female, transgender.
	Naki Jared thought it was just a lesbian.
	I thought it was a lesbian.
	I mean, it looked like a big dyke, so...
	It did.
	It's really, really difficult.
	At that point, we're not even making jokes about it.
	We were sitting there looking at the story in the pitch meeting going, I am confused.
	And we had about four or five people come in.
	My wife couldn't determine.
	She was like, that's a man.
	No way.
	That's, I don't know.
	And that's different because it's very clear, obviously, if you say you're transgender, like you said, someone would just say, didn't know, would say that woman in the black dress.
	Someone like this, it would be that, your guess, is as good as mine in the Nazi tank top.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, which is why the authoritarianism doesn't work, because you can't expect people to know what you're still confused about.
	That person looked confused.
	You can't expect other people to know.
	Yeah, and the person looked very upset.
	Okay, Blair White, we have to get going.
	Great conversation.
	Where's the best place for people to find you and support you?
	YouTube.com slash BlairWhiteX.
	There's an E at the end of Blair.
	Everyone forgets that.
	And Twitter.com is Ms.
	Blair White, Ms.
	Blair White.
	Okay, do you have a Patreon going on or anything like that?
	Yeah, I do.
	It's patreon.com slash Blair White.
	Okay, I figured because right now with YouTube, everyone's being squeezed, so it's tough.
	Yeah, get the coin.
	You gotta get the coin.
	Yeah, you gotta get the coin.
	Bitcoins for all the libertarians out there.
	Also, she'll send you a free joint.
	There we go.
	We just got you the libertarian vote.
	Blair White, at Ms.
	Blair White.
	White.
	We'll be back after this.
	Home Body Break.
	With Steven Prouder and Not Gay Jerry.
	Summer's a great time to be active and enjoy some of your favorite activities outside, like riding a bicycle.
	Even better, it's a great time to keep a new friend.
	But most important, safety first.
	Ensuring that people are wearing the right gear to ensure a pleasurable and injury-free experience.
	It's also paramount to learn the proper safety hand signals.
	For example, this means I'm turning left.
	This means I'm turning right.
	And most importantly, this means stop.
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	We return to the drowning dance.
	Because a lot of you apparently like to see us pantomiming death.
	Thanks so much, Dean Cain and Blair White.
	I really enjoyed the conversations.
	Nice folks.
	Hope we have them back.
	Huge week next week, too.
	We have a lot of great guests.
	We have Patrick Moore, who is one of the founders of Greenpeace.
	PhD in ecology.
	And he says the entire modern climate change movement is bullcrap.
	That is interesting.
	But...
	He only has a PhD in ecology, so he's a denier.
	Let's be clear on that.
	He does not have a bachelor's in mechanical engineering.
	Those Koch brother checks are clearing.
	Yes, those Koch brother checks are clearing.
	And we have a few other people.
	Oh, we have Diamond and Silk.
	We have Diamond and Silk will be on the show.
	Diamond and Silk on Monday, actually.
	I remember when that just became huge.
	I'm like, we have to have these ladies on.
	Well, they have a publicist who's very much...
	Like, what do you want to have them on for?
	Diamond and Silk are very busy.
	And they're like, of course they are.
	Of course they are.
	That's perfect.
	If I were Diamond and Silk, I would be the biggest princess in the world.
	So exclusive.
	I would be so exclusive.
	There's no way I would do this show.
	No.
	So, you know, we were talking about this earlier.
	You know, you made the point about Vox.
	Yeah.
	My point is, you look at Vox, and I think Vox, to their credit, more than most, they do a very good job of presenting their videos as being straight down the middle, unbiased, just effects.
	I don't know if it's their editing, I don't know if it's their voiceovers, or their little cartoon graphics that just pull on my heartstrings, but they do a good job.
	And then you start looking around, and you're like, I know...
	You smell that?
	I step in something?
	Yeah.
	And then you start looking through and cross-referencing things.
	You're like, oh, there's all the sleight of hand.
	There's all the bullcrap.
	It's everywhere.
	Yeah.
	No, it's true.
	And by the way, anyone on Vox who thinks that we've misrepresented them, you're welcome to come on the show.
	Just like anyone at Young Turks, we don't call anyone out and not offer them recourse.
	That's our rule here.
	Yes.
	So anyone, anyone who we've called out or, I mean, not everyone we've ever made a joke about, like in the opening monologue, and we're like, I don't I don't like it.
	Like if Rob Schneider says, there is no fascist gigolo.
	Rob, come on, you're a comedian.
	But still, we don't call people out without giving them recourse.
	And here's why.
	There are a couple of things here.
	The best way to shine a light on bullcrap like that is live debate, live conversation in real time.
	Anyone, including us, anyone can misrepresent what someone else is saying in a video or in an article.
	So, for example, we could have just said, hey, Vox makes an emotional argument and only shown that portion, when instead they could have made a really valid constitutional plea as to why there need to be sanctuary cities.
	They didn't really do that.
	I encourage you to go watch the videos.
	However, I could easily lie to you that way, okay?
	We've had people do that all the time.
	We've had people do that with what we say.
	We've seen people on the right do it with people on the left, and we've seen it going both ways.
	We've seen people do it with Dave Rubin.
	I think we've seen people do it with Dave Rubin having me on the show.
	He's a guy you think everyone would just love, but it turns out it's just kind of the opposite reaction.
	No, most people like him.
	Most people like him, but people down the middle think they're going to make a lot of friends often find themselves making enemies on both sides as well.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's true.
	Well, someone like Blair White probably has a lot of enemies, and that's why I wanted to be friendly, even though we disagree.
	And you can tweet me at S. Crowder, maybe tweet at NokiaJarred.
	I do try to do a job here of not changing my positions or values in the face of someone who might make it uncomfortable to express so.
	So it would be inconsistent to me to say, like, yeah, Blair, I'm totally on board and transgender.
	No, I still need to be clear, like, listen, I think you're a good person, but I also think that maybe a way to assist people who suffer from gender dysphoria is not the sex change.
	But you know what?
	That's what Blair advocated.
	Sure.
	So we found common ground where we didn't even expect to.
	I thought that might have been a pushback point.
	Again, that's why the live conversation is so important.
	The internet can allow anybody to be an expert.
	You can take your eight-year-old son, give him a week, and say, dissect this monologue from Noam Chomsky, and they could make him look like an idiot.
	So please go watch the original Vox video.
	Please go watch the original Young Turks video that we talked about yesterday.
	Go watch their original video.
	Go to their original source and see if it's an accurate representation.
	Okay, go watch the Bill Nye show.
	We often believe in more context, not less.
	Bring back up.
	Bring drinks.
	What?
	For the Bill Nye show.
	What do you mean bring back?
	Oh, bring back up.
	You said bring back up.
	No.
	Like bring something back up.
	No, just don't do that.
	We shouldn't advocate that.
	No, you shouldn't advocate that because people will drink themselves to death.
	It's true.
	Probably already happening if they're transgender.
	There's a 41% chance.
	Statistically accurate.
	Oh, this segment got dark.
	So that's a big way to shine a light on it.
	But I encourage other people out there to.
	It's not about the ones that you see.
	It's not about the MSNBC.
	It's not about the Young Turks.
	It's not just about the Slate.
	It's about the HuffPo.
	It's about the Vox.
	It's about the Brian Williams.
	It's about CNN.
	If you watch this show...
	Particularly if you're a Mug Club member and you support the show daily, you'll see that usually we're dissecting issues from CNN. Usually we're dissecting issues from sources that people see as unbiased.
	Vox does a good job with that, as Not Gay Jared said.
	Those are the ones you have to look out for.
	And it's really easy to be fooled.
	So Google right now is changing their algorithms to, for example, no longer allow or to throttle any kind of fake news websites.
	So, under that category, it seems like opinion sites will be included, but under legitimate news will be university newspapers.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, the Trigglypuffs, who are editor-in-chiefs of newspapers, the I'm a woman and you better respect it, who, by the way, doesn't even attend that campus.
	Really?
	Yeah, that's what she said?
	What do we decide on?
	I don't know.
	I still don't know.
	I just know I'm still going to have nightmares.
	Edward Soundguy says he.
	So, um...
	This is what's going to happen with Google.
	So you don't need to worry about what you're finding that's blatant.
	You're going, oh, that's coming from Mother Jones.
	But when you're searching, hold on a second.
	Google's not really necessarily showing you that deportations actually lead to less illegal immigration.
	Google may not be showing you that illegal immigration comes with higher crime.
	Google may not be showing you that ICE just needs a 48-hour retainer period to be able to come in and pick up illegal immigrants.
	Google may not be showing you that illegal immigrants are not likely to alert the local authorities regarding domestic disturbances as it is.
	Google may not show it to you.
	Vox may not show it to you.
	CNN certainly is not going to show it to you.
	They'll show you Russians peeing on, apparently, plaster in front of Donald Trump, something along those lines.
	And they're still seen as legitimate news sources.
	PolitiFact is a great example.
	PolitiFact said mostly true that illegal immigration is down.
	No, we know it's absolutely true.
	Snopes fact-checked us.
	Here's a good example one time.
	And I'm going to get to the conclusion here.
	Snopes one time fact-checked us about Cologne.
	We were talking about after Cologne, there were leaflets being passed out teaching migrants how not to rape.
	We took actual pictures of the leaflets.
	Now, if you read the original article, we said that after Cologne, these leaflets were being passed out.
	They were being circulated in significant numbers, voluminous numbers.
	That was the original article.
	Now, some people tried to say, hey, they didn't just print.
	Those pamphlets were printed long before Cologne, Germany.
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	We never said they were printed right now.
	We talked about the circulation of those pamphlets.
	And Snopes tried to say, well, if you look at this, no, this is inaccurate because these pamphlets were printed a long time ago.
	But if you read the original article, that's what we said.
	But we said because now they're raping a lot, so they're making a comeback.
	The don't rape pamphlets.
	Just because your church evangelism tracks were printed up in 1979, so using them doesn't make you less...
	Especially if we haven't been passing them out in numbers and we pass them out tenfold starting tomorrow.
	That would be newsworthy.
	So Snopes says, well, actually, were printed a while ago.
	Well, yes.
	But Snopes doesn't say, and by the way, they were being recirculated in mammoth numbers and passed out on the street after the Cologne attacks.
	Why?
	Because Snopes, I don't even think, addressed the Cologne attacks.
	Maybe they printed too many.
	Maybe they printed too many.
	It's just a surplus here.
	Snopes.
	On the back of it, it's telling you the wonders of Jehovah.
	You don't know, but the point is...
	Snopes.
	PolitiFact.
	People can do that easily.
	People can take anything out of context and craft an argument against an argument that you were never making.
	And Vox does that a lot.
	And they're really good at it.
	And so I want you this week to, we've always said this, right?
	Set HuffPosts, all of the sites that you hate, all of the people who you don't like, watch them, listen to them, read them on a regular basis.
	Also, try to learn not to hate them.
	Don't be angry about it, but educate yourself and be in the know.
	Even more than that is I want you to have your antenna up whenever you read something that you think is not biased.
	Whenever you see something where you're going, gosh, what is a sanctuary city?
	You type it into YouTube, guess what's going to be the first thing that shows up?
	It's not going to be this podcast.
	This thing's been demonetized by segment one, okay?
	By the time Jihadi Bond theme song...
	It's on page 12.
	It's on page 12.
	Vox is going to be right up there.
	And again, it starts with, this is a sanctuary city.
	We can agree, okay, that's accurate.
	We're not beyond agreeing on facts.
	And it uses that as a springboard.
	Now, there's also nothing wrong with that if you're straightforward that you're giving an opinion or that it's speculation.
	Vox doesn't do that.
	CNN doesn't do that.
	Chris Cuomo doesn't do that.
	A lot of people on the left don't do that.
	Something else that's important.
	I won't say that Vox is lying.
	I won't say that someone else is lying.
	Lying means that you can prove a motive.
	I just think they're wrong.
	Now, there are some people who, I will argue, very rarely, it really seems like this person is proactively lying because you can go back and check an inconsistency where they knew information that they withheld.
	So that's something important, too.
	It doesn't necessarily mean that these people are lying.
	It means that they are wrong.
	And again, there's always confirmation bias.
	You are choosing to go along with the narrative.
	We do it, too.
	We try to be straightforward about that.
	But for every biased piece of reporting, every biased piece of journalism, this is a comedy show, but out there, biased pieces of journalism that you see, for every one that you do see, there's 10, 15, 20 that you don't see.
	The New York Times up until recently did not think that they were biased.
	They genuinely didn't think that they were biased.
	Only 7% of reporters identify as Republican.
	I'm sure Walter Cronkite thought he actually was the gold standard of journalism, but he said he couldn't be a journalist and be a liberal.
	I'm sure Dan Rather maybe didn't even know that people were forging documents to try and indict Bush.
	Maybe he didn't even know.
	I'm sure a lot of these people aren't aware that they're super biased.
	I know because I've been in the halls at Fox News, at CNN, at all of these places.
	I've been on these programs.
	And a lot of the time, many of these people think, well, I'm doing my job as a journalist.
	And they either make a judgment call to omit something, which is pivotal, or they don't even know that it's relevant to be included.
	So don't attribute the motive, but be aware that for everyone you spot, For every bottle cap you spot, get the metal detector.
	Be the creep with the zinc oxide on your nose and scan across that seashore because there are 20 more lurking beneath the surface.
	And one of the most valuable tools that you can have in your toolbox, particularly as you go into university right now, or if you're just someone who surfs the internet, is being able to decipher.
	The left is trying to teach classes to decipher fake news, and what do they try and teach you right now in school?
	They say, well, anything that's opinion is fake news.
	No, no.
	I don't know.
	Opinion can be real news tainted with opinion.
	Opinion can be real news and offering an opinion.
	Fake news can be inaccurate news.
	And you see that a lot and you often don't know that you're seeing it.
	And that's what really gets my goat.
	And I just bought one, a newbie in one, because they make great buttermilk.
	I love you guys.
	See you next week, Monday with Diamond and Silk.
	That'll be fun.

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