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	We are having Alex Rosen with us via Skype.
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	There you are.
	Hi, hi, welcome to the show.
	Thank you so much for coming.
	Yeah, it's so great.
	We're so pumped up to have you on.
	And we just...
	I don't know.
	I said, I called you, I said, I saw you were on Alex's show yesterday.
	I was like, what is happening here?
	But I know he's been wanting to get you on, and great minds think alike, so we're very honored.
	Hey, there you go, there you go.
	So, drones, you, I'm sorry, I'm not even thinking right.
	What was I going to say to you just now?
	I'm sorry, I'm starstruck.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Thank you so much again.
	So let me open it up and just kind of say your platform is called Predator Poachers, and you started this how long ago?
	Well, what we do is we catch online child predators across the country.
	We pose as minors online or acquire other ways of knowing if somebody's a pedophile.
	We confront them on camera, hoping to get some admissions to some crimes, and oftentimes it seems like we do.
	And we turn over that evidence to law enforcement, and it's netted an arrest in 43 different states and convictions in 27 so far.
	And we started doing this in 2019 when I was only 19 years old.
	Now I'm 23. I know I look older, but, you know, dick pics will age you.
	Yeah, no, I was just telling that to drones.
	I was saying, man, he's only 23 years old.
	You have done so much in such a short period of time from what I see on your channel and compared to, I'm sure that you have so much other footage that you just never put out or it didn't make it out there onto your channel.
	So would I be guessing right?
	Well, thanks to Rumble, we do have most of it backed up on there, it looks like.
	But, yeah, there is some stuff we haven't released yet, but we plan on releasing as much as we possibly can.
	You know, there's not a single person that we get that we don't think should be exposed.
	But, yeah, I mean, obviously editors have to edit, and, you know, uploading is only so fast.
	So, yeah, I mean, there is some stuff that we haven't dropped yet, but there is over, I think, 400 videos of us confronting child...
	Wow, 400.
	So out of that 400, what percentage of that would you say were in a situation where nothing actually happened to that predator?
	Well, we first started doing this in Houston.
	You know, we did it very unprofessionally.
	Like, it was more about just shaming them and making fun of them, this type of stuff.
	And we started traveling the country in 2020, and that's when I started to realize, like, hold on a second.
	They can actually get arrested if we take this a little bit more seriously.
	And, you know, Harris County, where we live, sucks anyway because it is a Soros-funded DA.
	And, you know, stuff moves so slow here because during COVID, all these cases got backed up.
	So I don't even – we don't even have an arrest in Houston yet, but we have an arrest.
	In Cheyenne, Wyoming, to give you an idea of how slow stuff is here in Houston.
	But as for how many get arrested, more of them get arrested than don't now.
	But as for total, I'm sure it's probably around 50-50.
	All I know is we've lost count.
	We have an arrest in 43 different states.
	I can't even keep count anymore.
	Yeah, I think that's why it's also so important to make sure that people are tuning in and following you on your channel.
	Jones, could you do me a favor and pull that up?
	We'll show that channel so that people can check it out if they're not already following you.
	Because of situations where I would think that if they got arrested and for whatever reason they got out, because just like everyone, all of these other people that are doing these heinous crimes, they're usually repeat offenders.
	Watching these videos, sharing the videos, telling others about the videos, and getting the word out is the second best thing we can do outside of getting them behind bars.
	Kind of exposing them to their own area, wherever they live, and letting everyone recognize their face.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Just recently, we caught a guy.
	We got him arrested twice in less than a month.
	We got him arrested August.
	Then he got him arrested again September 3rd in two different cities, in two different states.
	His name is David Morris.
	And currently he's out on house arrest due to a quote-unquote medical condition he has so that he can't be in jail at the moment.
	But he has court again in St. Louis County on November 17th.
	But yeah, he got out of jail, messaged the same exact decoy that we had on him.
	He thought he was messaging an 11-year-old girl.
	He believed it was so real that even after he got out of jail, he just started doing it again.
	And both times...
	He had child pornography on his phone, including the new phone that he had after he got arrested the first time.
	So he was pretty easy to get him arrested.
	But it just goes to show you the guy is never going to stop, no matter how much jail he's looking at.
	I mean, he's looking at a minimum of five years if they prosecute him properly in St. Louis.
	And, yeah, I mean, he's been doing it his whole life.
	And, you know, nothing's going to stop him except for a bullet or a jail cell.
	Yeah, it's really unfortunate that that kind of thing happens.
	You guys can go to his page here and just check out all of the videos.
	So, yeah, I remember seeing that video.
	I feel like it's this guy here, right?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So it's this guy here.
	And he even, if I recall correctly, he gave...
	The police, his phone, I'm pretty sure this is the same video because I've seen a few of your videos and showed them the child porn or he admitted to having a bunch of child porn on his phone.
	I think you asked him how many pictures or something he had.
	On his phone?
	Yes.
	So the first time he claimed about 500 images and videos.
	And the second time he had a little bit less because he just had that phone for like a month.
	But, you know, his phone was officially dumped the second time.
	An FBI agent found 20 pieces of media that were absolutely child porn.
	So it's not looking too good for him.
	Yeah, this is just such a really sick way to live.
	Share the same sentiment about how everything has become so normalized whenever it comes to sexualizing the children with the drag.
	Not only the drag, but just kind of saying things like about age.
	I can't think of the term, but there are new terms where it justifies a relationship between a child and an adult.
	And so I'm sure there's been a giant uptick in...
	In, you know, cases or your situation kind of where you're tracking.
	Well, I think there's always been about the same amount of people who have been attracted to children.
	I just think they're more open and brazen about it now.
	I mean, most of the people that we catch are using their real names online with their real cities and all of that stuff.
	I mean, David Morris, who we just went over, he made no secret about who he was or anything like that and was very, very brazen about it.
	And I think it just goes to show that it's being normalized because there's just so many of them.
	And, you know, one of the ways that we get them to confess to crimes on camera is You know, if I'm just like, well, I mean, were you going to do it if the girl consented to it?
	And, you know, in their warped mind, they think a little girl can consent.
	And they're like, well, yeah, of course, only if she consented to it.
	I would never force myself on it, which is, of course, bullshit.
	It's a nice play on words.
	But, you know, yeah, they go, they take the easier rope to hang themselves on.
	Yeah, I mean, in 2022, that's when we started really seeing a lot of pedo terms that are trying to minimize what pedophilia is.
	Like, we started seeing people use the term MAP, minor attracted person.
	And they also ask us, we're an AAM, an adult attracted minor, which isn't as common as MAP.
	And, I mean, there's a guy we got arrested in New York named Darren Taylor.
	If you just go on rumble.com, type in Predator Poachers, Middletown, New York.
	A guy named Darren Taylor, he was using, his name on Telegram was Map4AAM, as in a minor attracted person looking for an adult attraction minor.
	So, I mean, these people are very comfortable doing this pretty openly.
	Yeah, you have so much footage of these.
	It's incredible.
	And every one is more insane than the next, especially getting the repeat offender.
	And then you even had the Smollett twins go with you.
	How did that happen?
	Well, the way me and the Osendero bros met, Bola and Ola, they're great people.
	Very, very good guys.
	Very funny, too.
	The way we met is just on Twitter, we just reposted their video basically explaining what happened during the Smollett thing.
	And our repost of it kind of went viral, like our little quote tweet of it.
	And then they kind of reached out saying, thanks for sharing it.
	Then I hit them up saying, hey, man, next time I'm in Chicago, let's like meet up and just talk or something.
	And they agreed to it.
	And, you know, we really hit it off just hanging out for like 45 minutes.
	And I'm like, hey, man, next time I'm up here, let's go bust a predator.
	And I mean, luckily the...
	Well, I'm sorry to say luckily, but I guess it kind of worked out to where the most bizarre predator we've caught this year.
	They just happened to be close to, and they were able to go on that one.
	And, yeah, no, it's great.
	It's great.
	Yeah, it's nice to see others want to help, you know, to help out, to physically help out and be a part of, you know, intervening in this disgusting, ongoing...
	You know, just sexualization and, you know, it's the worst.
	And when I talked to you earlier, I was saying, you know, I really, really appreciate it.
	I have nieces and nephews and...
	Just a bunch of friends that have children and things like that.
	You're always so worried that this will happen because it's more likely to happen.
	Not only are you having to worry about the people that you bring into your circle, but now you're also having to worry about the people on the internet.
	Actually worse than just what children were exposed to back in the day before all of this Roblox and all these online games started happening for sure.
	Is that where you find most of your predators on social media apps like that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I actually have to go to court on the 16th for a preliminary hearing in Osage County, Oklahoma.
	For a sex offender, we call him Christopher Burton.
	You can just type in that on...
	Rumble is typing Predator Poachers Bartlesville, B-A-R-T-L-E-S-V-I-L-L-E, Bartlesville, Oklahoma.
	And that guy told us that he was talking to a real eight-year-old girl on Roblox.
	They were video calling.
	He was already sexualizing her.
	They're everywhere online.
	That doesn't mean just completely don't have a childhood, but definitely be aware.
	The guy who wants to friend you and just talk to you when he's 20, 30, 40 years older than you just isn't trying to be your friend.
	Yeah, no doubt.
	No doubt.
	I did have a cousin whose daughter was talking to somebody online and, you know, she was able to stop it right away, but it was still just some random stranger.
	And you see, you know, there's so much, the kids are already under so much pressure.
	That they're so confused that they're willing to just, you know, they just want someone to talk.
	They're missing that love in their home or whatever, and they're looking for other people to like them or to want to love them or whatever.
	And so any person that is giving them those words, you know, giving them that love and that care and stuff, even if it's for their own, you know, purpose, the kids will jump to it right away.
	Absolutely.
	That's a lot of what it is, too.
	I mean, we caught two sex offenders in the past two months, one of them being Christopher, who we just talked about, and the other just recently in Rock Springs, Wyoming, named Jack Rickman.
	And both their excuses of talking to this pretend 11-year-old girl was like, oh, I just wanted to boost her self-esteem.
	I just wanted to make her feel good about herself.
	I mean, it's really malicious and sick.
	You know, I think that it can be pretty easily avoided.
	I just think we need to make shaming cool again.
	And by that, I mean, you know, obviously predators should stop preying on children, but you can't rely on sick people to do good things.
	You have to rely on the good people to do good things, which are, you know, kids are good people.
	And, you know, if we started just...
	Basically shaming kids into just saying, hey, social media is retarded.
	You know, you can't use these words like, oh, but it's just dangerous, the stranger danger, this and that.
	Because all it's going to do is make kids curious.
	You know, I was, I mean, I'm 23. I was a kid like freaking, you know, six years ago, seven years ago.
	And I could tell you that just...
	Using buzzwords like, oh, this is just dangerous.
	This is just the great unknown.
	It's going to make kids more curious.
	But if we actually teach kids relatable terms, like going on social media is gay and retarded, or it's stupid to be on there, or you're a cookie cutter if you go on there, I think it'll actually just change a lot of things.
	I have my own opinions, too.
	Like, I think all kids should be playing sports and not being in the house.
	But, you know, that's a crapshoot nowadays.
	What's going on with that you're thinking?
	You were wrong about that.
	Kids need to be in front of computers.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Right, right.
	No, it's so ridiculous.
	I say it all the time.
	We went from no screen time, you know, articles about screen time, how bad it is for children, just all over.
	That was what everyone knew.
	It was bad.
	Now, elementary kids are taking home laptops.
	They are not able to write.
	They can't write.
	We took cursive out of the mix.
	They can't even write print.
	It's really insane how we jump to that.
	And then on top of that, now we're pushing video games.
	Now we have all of this other stuff going on.
	So they're on screens all day at school, and then they get home, and then they're on screens all day after school.
	And it's not a big deal to them.
	And really, they shouldn't even be inside.
	They should be outside.
	I agree with you.
	When I was a kid, I would get locked outside.
	Well, that's good.
	That's good.
	Yeah, I didn't even get a PlayStation until 8th grade, and not a smartphone until 9th grade.
	And I'm glad for that.
	I'm really happy for that, because I was outside all the time.
	And even then, I was still outside as much as I could possibly be, too.
	But yeah, I mean, we've just got to make shaming cool again, because, you know, shaming...
	Shaming now is like, oh, you don't have Instagram?
	Oh, you're so lame.
	Oh, you're not posting selfies on Instagram?
	You're so lame.
	But it needs to be the reverse.
	Like, oh, you're relying on technology to be cool?
	I mean, call that lame.
	I mean, we really just need to make it relatable for children to understand, like, words they can understand.
	This is retarded.
	This is gay.
	This is stupid.
	And I really think that can change a lot of things.
	I like the way you think.
	That's pretty good.
	We just need to make it gay and retarded.
	And it's not cool.
	It's not trendy.
	That's dumb.
	Why are you so gross and lazy?
	Absolutely.
	Just bully these kids out of it completely because it's just the darkest rabbit hole.
	And, you know, they have access to all kinds of stuff.
	And, you know, just like the trend that was going around with, you know, the what are they called?
	Like emoji people.
	Or whatever, where they're, like, eating bananas and doing all this, like, weird, like, they're this anime thing.
	Oh, no, that, like, NPC thing?
	Yeah, so even that, and you see, you know, kids doing that.
	Well, you know, they're doing these things.
	Who do you think are watching children eat bananas for fake, for money?
	You know, it's not, it's just not appropriate.
	It's not appropriate.
	And, you know, and then, you know, you hear the argument about, oh, TikTok is China, and we need to ban TikTok everywhere, but we're not saying anything about, you know, we're not saying shit about Facebook or Instagram.
	You know, we don't care.
	We're letting that happen.
	We're just like, no to TikTok because it's a Chinese company.
	I think the reality of it is just that they can't figure out the algorithm like TikTok did.
	And so they're less popular because of it.
	I don't think they care at all about our government spies on us, our own government.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	I think our own government will probably do worse things with your own personal info than the Chinese one ever will.
	I was on the camp at first, like, yeah, we should ban TikTok because, yeah, man, screw this China man.
	I don't really care.
	I think our own government definitely has done worse things to us than the Chinese have ever.
	Exactly, and continue to do, and continue to do.
	We have Anthony on the show.
	Anthony Aguero from Border News.
	And he's at the border all the time and he is seeing these children, these babies coming through the border, getting sex trafficked.
	Me and my husband went to San Antonio where they have a processing facility.
	It's not too far.
	We're here in Austin.
	And it was insane.
	The amount of children and just coming through.
	You know, it's like we're running our own sex trafficking ring everywhere, wherever there's a facility.
	That's one of two that's in San Antonio.
	So I can't imagine, you know, how much more pedophilia, you know, is pouring through the borders with the fentanyl, with the, you know, terrorist, whoever else.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, no, we have a lot to take care of in our own country before we can turn to caring about any foreign stuff like Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Palestine, any of that.
	No, we don't have enough focus on each other.
	And something else I was saying to my husband was, you know, it's really...
	It's really interesting how no one really cares, and I'm just getting off subject for a minute, but how no one really cares about Americans until they're being held hostage in another country.
	Then we're throwing $6 billion at it or we're trading out war criminals for, you know...
	Transgender basketball players.
	We're doing all of this crazy activity whenever we're held hostage in another country.
	But our government can give a crap less, even when it comes to children, about the people that are here now.
	And they keep putting us at risk.
	I know that it's looking like everyone is like World War III is happening.
	Do you have an opinion on that at all?
	What do you think the future is looking like for us?
	Well, I don't really know what's happening.
	I haven't really been keeping up with it too much.
	I just know that, you know, I don't really go on Twitter as much as I used to anymore.
	I just think it's kind of dumb.
	It's retarded.
	The whole thing with Twitter and free speech is like, oh, we finally won because Elon Musk lets us talk about the vaccine.
	Okay, well, what's actually changing because of it?
	Nothing.
	Nothing really.
	I just think it's just a nice way to placate the right like they always do.
	Nobody actually wants to get off their ass and go do stuff in person.
	But yes, I don't really keep up with it.
	I don't really care.
	What about the future for the children?
	What about the future of what you are doing?
	Well, you know, I always plan to just keep doing this, keep trying to catch pedophiles, get them away from children.
	And no matter what capacity that is, I mean, you know, maybe I'll be a cop one day when I settle down and have kids with my girlfriend or run for office, hopefully.
	I don't know.
	We'll see what happens.
	But all I know is I just want to be in a position to make sure pedos don't have access to children.
	I love that so much.
	I really, really appreciate that because you deal with this all the time.
	This is your life, your livelihood.
	How does your...
	Is your girlfriend down with a, you know, she like also like kind of on the team of, you know, she out there on the ground with you?
	I mean, you don't have to say, but I'm just curious, like that dynamic, you know, where you're dealing with such, you know, emotionally, I don't know.
	I mean, you're probably numb to it by now.
	Yeah, no, we're all definitely pretty numb to it.
	But, no, she doesn't go with me in person on these.
	I would never let her do that.
	But, you know, behind the scenes, she's definitely helping chat up the predators, keeping the decoys, like, organized and stuff like that.
	So she's a huge help, and I don't think we'd be able to be as efficient as we are.
	Now, I'm not even saying we're that efficient.
	I'm just saying we're way more efficient than we were.
	Two years ago, I remember celebrating, like, oh my god, we got six Predators in like one and a half weeks, and now it's like in three weeks, we're getting 24 of them across 13 states.
	So, I mean, she definitely plays a giant part in making sure we're able to do what we do.
	Oh, that's so great to have someone on your team that you love and care about.
	Because that's definitely how I feel, too.
	It's nice to be able to do that.
	So you say in the future maybe being a cop, is that kind of where all of this stemmed from, just wanting to be in the line of help?
	Yeah, I've always wanted to catch bad guys since I was a little kid, and I've always wanted to be a police officer since I was probably in late middle school, early high school or whatever.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I mean, I was playing college football my first year in college, and, you know, I was probably like, you know, I was liking it, but I wasn't, like, loving it, and I was like, all right, I'll probably just do my two years and go to the police academy, but then this kind of just popped up, and I just started getting into these types of videos, and I was like, all right, well, I can't be a cop.
	Let me just go try to catch a predator.
	Let me see how easy it can be, and then within 30 minutes, somebody wanted to go meet up with, go meet up with who they thought was a 15-year-old boy, and then ever since, it just kind of...
	Kept growing and growing and growing, Tor.
	I'm like, all right, well, it's time for this to be a full-time job.
	And I'm very grateful that this is a full-time job.
	But on the other hand, I also feel like this has to be now because I can't just know that there's literally millions of pedos in the U.S. and not do this, you know?
	Yeah, no, I really appreciate it.
	For sure.
	We do here at the Liberty Broadcast.
	We are showing your videos and talking about you often and also, you know, bringing to light these situations that people need to see.
	I mean, there are tough things to watch and it's a tough realization, but that's kind of where we're at now.
	And, you know, thankfully for places like Rumble and unfortunately retarded social media, we're able to spread.
	This information and make people aware of it.
	You know, I've seen so many of your videos and, you know, it is sad.
	I am also, I'm a survivor of a similar situation and I look at my situation and think, man, I was able to get my assaulter, you know, with 55 years for something over 20 years ago.
	So you can always say something, even later in life, which I didn't think was true.
	But here in Texas, there's not a statute.
	So I guess from other states, maybe there is.
	But not everybody gets, you know, what I was able to get.
	A lot of people don't.
	And for babies, you know, even infants, I'm sure.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, the amount of people that we've caught the past year that have been into infants and toddlers, I mean, I've definitely lost count of that.
	I mean, it's not the whole to catch a predator thing isn't just some pedo going after a 15-year-old girl who's like, yeah, I'm alone, come fuck me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	I mean, these people are bonafide pedophiles.
	They're not just opportunists.
	They are just people who are just attracted to little children as young as infants and toddlers.
	I mean, even recently, in Amarillo, Texas, a couple days ago, we caught somebody who was into toddlers and animals.
	He was a self-proclaimed zoophile.
	And he was just somebody that was just so depraved.
	He had no boundaries to really what he'd watched.
	I mean, I guess he had his boundaries of watching snuff films with kids, which I wouldn't really say is a boundary at that point.
	I think you're way lost before that.
	Yeah, I mean, there's people like that.
	It's so common.
	And, you know, a lot of people we do catch, you know, people can say like, oh, but they would never commit these crimes.
	It wasn't for this fake decoy, this, that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Well, that's definitely not true because when we do throw a decoy on them, a lot of times these people have done this before.
	And social media is just a way for them to bring out their perversions onto the Internet.
	Because back in the day, if you're a pedophile, you can only offend when there's children around.
	But now you can offend.
	At the tip of a finger, just a click.
	You can just go click on CP and go watch it.
	And, you know, it's not a coincidence that, you know, we catch a guy in Virginia named David Dunn, who, if you just type in Predator Poach Midlothian, his video will come up on Rumbles.
	Free to watch.
	If you just go watch that video, I mean, the guy has molested kids his whole life.
	And coincidentally, he's just in a big child porn group, just training child porn literally every 12 hours.
	So, you know, that is kind of the double-edger social media.
	Yeah, they do.
	And not only social media, right?
	Because there are groups and chat.
	In chat things, right?
	So like Telegram, they have like weird secret chat groups of this kind of stuff that don't get shut down.
	You know, all of them, right?
	WhatsApp, Signal Wire, whatever.
	All of these different, you know, third party chat groups where you can create this kind of, you know, thing.
	It's happening.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, no, we recently got, just in this one group on WhatsApp, we've got, I think, I want to say seven people in the same group this past trip that were all in the same WhatsApp group, all watching child porn as young as infants.
	And, yeah, no, it's WhatsApp, Telegram, and Signal are very common ones they all use.
	That doesn't mean if you have a Telegram account, you're just going to be sent that.
	I mean, you definitely have to still go looking for it, but Telegram...
	It's way more than complicit.
	They know it happens on their platform.
	And even with David Dunn, for example, he was in a group called APCL where there's over 10,000 people in that group.
	Every person had to put in child pornography 12 hours a day or every 12 hours or they'd be kicked out of the group.
	That's a way to just kind of filter out the feds, I guess.
	You know, I mean, that group is still on Telegram.
	Like, we didn't go into it or anything like that.
	He just told us about the group.
	But this YouTuber named The Disturbed Truth or Disturbing Truth made a video on it.
	He made a video on our bust of David Dunn, and it has, like, close to 400,000 views now.
	And a bunch of people have reported that group to Telegram, and it's only grown 30% since we caught him.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Wow.
	That is sick.
	It's insane.
	The things that we allow people to get away with and just the mental...
	What is going on with these people?
	What is making them this way?
	I know I hear a large percentage of sexual abusers were sexually abused, but what about the rest of them?
	It's like, where do they just have this...
	You know, this attractiveness to, like, a toddler.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah, no, I think it's just genetic.
	I just think they're born attracted to kids.
	You know, as messed up as it is to say, you know, it's not making an excuse for them.
	People are just born effed up.
	You know, they need to control themselves because, you know, a lot of these pedos, you know, they have wives and kids.
	I mean, they're married and, you know, it's not like they only like kids or they can, you know, so...
	They can absolutely control themselves, like, the same way that I can't help myself liking a piece of chocolate cake, but I try not to eat it.
	I don't do, like, a good job not eating it, obviously.
	I mean, look at me.
	But, you know, I still need to control myself no matter if I like it or not, and that's what these pedos need to do.
	But, you know, I think it's a little bit more than an attraction to minors because I can see a beautiful girl walking down the street and think about stuff I want to do to her, but never am I going to act on it, of course, unless she wants me to.
	With these people, with these predators, with kids, I mean, they can't just look at kids.
	I'm not saying that's okay, but they can't just think to themselves that this kid's attractive.
	They have to always act on it.
	We've only come across one person online who admitted he was a pedophile but said, oh, well, I only just look at bikini pictures of kids.
	I would never do anything more because that's wrong.
	One out of thousands was like that.
	The rest of them can't help it.
	Wow, that is incredible.
	What do you think your total is with the people that you've busted?
	Do you keep track of that?
	Oh, gosh.
	No, I don't anymore.
	I just keep track of the amount of states.
	But I would have to guess it's probably close to 600, give or take.
	Wow.
	And are the majority of them are male?
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, there's just very few females.
	Yeah, I saw the one that you busted.
	She was, what was, it was a woman who was with a guy.
	They were both doing it.
	Yeah, that's most of the females we catch.
	And they're not just, they don't get dragged along by their abusive husband.
	They're part of it, too.
	They're also pedo bombs.
	But yeah, we caught two couples in a month, one in early August and one in late August.
	Both of them got arrested, so that's four arrests and two busts.
	But yeah, and there are females online that are doing this.
	Like, there are just pedo moms who are just child porn traders, all that type of stuff.
	But they are so careful.
	Like, we've talked to a few of them online as children, and they're just asking for nudes very quickly.
	They're asking for pics on a whim.
	And, you know, with the guys, like, they can ask for a peace sign.
	We'll be like, okay, yeah, I'll send it later.
	And they're like, oh, okay.
	And as long as we send it eventually, they'll be fine.
	But if you don't get these pictures to these women, like, quick, they will just think you're fake, and they'll snuff you out pretty quick.
	So, you know, they're a lot more cunning and smart when it comes to the online stuff.
	Yeah, no, no, no doubt.
	And, you know, they're able to do that, I think, just because of their motherly instinct, unfortunately, working against us.
	Here's a video of the one that you were just talking about.
	I want to show a little bit of this video real quick.
	So some people who haven't seen what you do exactly, here's a little bit of that.
	Alright.
	It's the man himself, isn't it?
	Nice to meet you, man.
	Nice to meet you, too.
	See what it is.
	Let's make sure you sound good.
	It's about some stuff on Signal and WhatsApp and Telegram we've got to go over, alright?
	Mm-hmm.
	What I want to talk to you about is some of these groups, especially like on Signal and WhatsApp, Telegram.
	Do you know what kind of groups I'd be talking about right now?
	The...
	I don't know.
	I was looking for a lot of stuff and I guess people were posting that stuff.
	What app would you say is the most extreme with this type of stuff?
	Signal.
	That's the one I've seen.
	And what about Telegram?
	What have they posted there?
	It was a few people.
	I know there was one guy posting it.
	What about WhatsApp?
	Anything on there that they've posted?
	Not that I've seen.
	Okay, so has it just been CP on Telegram and Signal?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, so on Telegram, was this like groups or individuals doing it?
	Individuals.
	Individuals, okay.
	How many people sent you stuff on Telegram, if you had to guess?
	I'd guess...
	A lot.
	Are they sending you, like, pictures, videos, or both?
	I don't know.
	I haven't checked in a while.
	Well, when they would send you stuff, what would it be?
	Like, pictures, videos, or both?
	What was happening in some of the videos that you can remember?
	Mainly girls.
	Okay.
	Some pedo kids.
	I think they were the...
	You said pedo dads?
	No, pedo moms.
	Pedo moms?
	What's that?
	I guess moms with their kids.
	How old were some of the kids, if you had to guess?
	Like, give me a number.
	Toddler age and shit.
	Toddler?
	Mm-hmm.
	Got it.
	Anybody send stuff of, like, infants and stuff?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	How often?
	Like, a lot.
	A lot.
	Were these, like, videos of infants?
	I think so.
	What were some of the things happening in those videos?
	Some straight-up sex and all that.
	With little babies?
	I think so.
	You think so, or it was happening?
	I think it was.
	It got pretty bad, and I was like...
	I guess they were sharing some of the truly fucked up shit.
	What would we, like, truly fucked up?
	Some of them were snuffed.
	With infants?
	Mm-hmm.
	So would these little babies...
	Was it, like, rape then getting killed?
	Yeah.
	And this is getting sent on Signal?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Take me through the first second, and as best as you can remember, don't make up shit, but take me through, like, the first second to what happens at the end.
	Choking them to death?
	Yeah.
	How old was the kid getting choked to death?
	At least five or six.
	So you're the Silver Tigre X4?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	I asked for some things, and I was, like, curious.
	What did you ask for?
	The animal stuff.
	Okay.
	Was it, I think, animal and a toddler or something like that?
	Okay.
	Because I was seeing if they'd post it again.
	Right.
	What animals were you kind of curious about watching with kids?
	Dogs.
	Okay.
	I know it's fucked up.
	What was happening in the video?
	She was talking on a webcam or something like that.
	I guess the dog was taking her from behind.
	All right.
	Am I going to get called on me like EDP and all that stuff?
	EDP?
	You know, most things like that.
	Do you know EDP was caught by, by chance?
	I don't know.
	I forgot his name.
	Without looking at your photo gallery, would there probably be some child porn on there?
	Probably auto-saved from that.
	So would there be like both pictures and videos?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, so that's not the file, that's like on your photo gallery?
	Mm-hmm.
	Can you go ahead and set it in airplane mode?
	Yeah.
	Don't delete anything, just set it in airplane mode.
	Since you've been so honest, what we are going to do, we are going to call the cops, but when they come here, what I'm going to do is recommend just help for you, okay?
	How's it going?
	There's an individual here by the name of Jonathan Villegas.
	Do you just want to tell them what happened?
	I think that'd be better.
	So, we have a group.
	We catch online child predators, and Jonathan has some child pornography on his phone that we want an officer here ASAP for that because we just want to get this issue taken care of.
	Yeah, we interview them and see if they confess to any potential crimes, and when they do, we call the cops, so he did say he has child porn on his phone.
	How's it going?
	Good.
	Here, Jonathan, do you want to just show them what's on the phone just so they can get you some help?
	Bite the bullet, man.
	You got it.
	I had joined a telegram group, and I was showing CP and stuff.
	I know there's one right there.
	I forgot.
	What was the youngest age they were posting in those groups?
	At least toddler.
	Oh, okay.
	I realized it was fucked up, and I started like...
	I did ask for some stuff, but just to see if they could, and I was curious about it.
	What's your name, man?
	Jonathan Villegas.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	So most of your videos are exactly that.
	And you're doing a great job out there.
	You really are.
	And I really love that...
	This is kind of what you're dedicated to.
	If I were to ever get into doing something like that, I'm sure I'd be exactly the same.
	How can you not after you know?
	I feel the same way about this show.
	We don't have millions of people tuning in, but the people that do tune in, we want to give them the information, which is why it's so important to have people like you on the show, which is why we keep showing up every Tuesday and doing this show.
	You know, kind of regardless, we're not, you know, on here looking for fame.
	We're just on here trying to share the information.
	And unfortunately, I can't do what you're doing.
	But I would love to, you know, we'd love to be a part of it and help in any way we can, even if that means, if it means being on the streets with you or if it means, you know, sharing your videos and getting the word out.
	Yeah, no, I really appreciate it.
	I mean, you know, the fact that we have 51,000 followers on Rumble, despite them never recommending us or very rarely doing that, you know, it's really just all word of mouth, you know, just going on Infowars, going on your show, going on, I don't know, just a lot of people's stuff.
	It really just kind of spreads around, you know, Twitter.
	I mean, people retweeting stuff.
	It really does help us out.
	And, you know, it's grown pretty organically just from that.
	And, you know, we really do appreciate the support.
	I mean, without any big YouTubers, well, I guess besides the Disturbing Truth, shout out to him, really covering us in a positive way.
	You know, we've been able to make it happen just based on grassroots stuff like y 'all.
	So we really appreciate it.
	Yeah, we definitely encourage everyone out there, if they're not already checking you out, to please go on there, whether it's whatever.
	What social medias do you not, like you mostly just do Rumble is where your videos go, but once in a while you share on Twitter.
	Do you have any other place you're posting this?
	If everybody just subs to Predator Poachers, P-R-E-D-A-T-O-R space P-O-A-C-H-E-R-S, Predator Poachers on Rumble.com.
	If everybody just subs there, then, you know, we'll be good.
	Yeah, this is the main place to get the information.
	That's awesome.
	And so you're going to continue to do this.
	You're going to continue to push back.
	You just came off of a, real quick, I don't want to forget about this.
	You just came off of a 21-day...
	Predator catching extravaganza, if you want to call it that.
	Yep, 21 days, 24 catches, Jonathan being the last one, and across 13 states.
	Wow, 24 in 21 days.
	Yeah, with like 10,000 miles of traffic.
	Yeah, how many states did you say?
	13. 13 states, wow.
	And what brought this on?
	Well, it's just what we do.
	It's our job.
	I mean, we basically acquire a bunch of predators in a certain part of the country.
	Well, I wouldn't say part because, you know, we hit the Midwest to the West Coast, all that crap.
	But we just draw a certain route that, you know, we think is the most fuel efficient and we just get predators along the way and we make it happen.
	Wow, that is incredible.
	That's so great that you organized and did something like that.
	Just to show that, you know, what you're saying is they're everywhere.
	They're all over.
	Yeah.
	They're definitely all over the place.
	And what you do is so important.
	It really is so important to the children.
	You know, we really, really appreciate it.
	Is there any other, you know, besides, I guess, just people following you on Rumble, that's how to help.
	Just join.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And there are other ways, too.
	But, you know, if you, you know, I figure, like, the first step would just be subbing on Rumble.
	And, you know, if you want to help after that, then just ask me on Rumble.
	But definitely sub on Rumble.
	It's completely free, too.
	And that's a great way to keep us going.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	So make sure everyone is doing that.
	Did you have any other things that maybe you wanted to get through that maybe you haven't gotten to tell people?
	Or what are some things that people could, some advice that people could benefit from that you see that they may need to hear besides that social media is retarded?
	Well, I really think that, you know, if you have, you know, I'm not a parent yet.
	I'm 23, but I'm hopefully going to be one soon.
	We're going to try soon.
	Don't raise your kid on tablets, whether that's tablets for antidepressants or tablets with electronic stuff.
	Don't raise your kids on tablets.
	Be an active parent.
	Because the best thing to stop online predators is not just tell predators to stop being pedophiles or to rely on people like me or the FBI or whatever to go catch them.
	The best way to stop online predators is just to make sure your kids aren't around them.
	Obviously, a kid can't get set, but it takes two.
	There's a reason you lock your doors at night.
	You don't keep your doors open because you just expect people not to be robbers.
	You have to take precautions.
	So the best thing I would say is, yeah, be the one parent who actually parents and gets your kid involved in sports and extracurricular activities.
	Because in the end, the world's never going to be rid of pedophiles.
	You know, just take mitigating risks.
	There's always going to be a risk to everything, you know, no matter what your kid's in.
	But just take the best route.
	Just, you know, give your kid a fulfilling childhood like they deserve.
	And I think you'll probably be all right.
	Awesome.
	Awesome.
	Thank you so much for saying that.
	I agree with you completely.
	Like I said, we really cover the kids and things that are going on with the children.
	We try to participate in school board meetings and all kinds of stuff, trying to get it at every angle that we can.
	So we definitely appreciate you coming on the show with us today.
	I think that we would love also to have you in studio if you ever make your way to Austin.
	We'd love for you to come catch some predators here for sure.
	Get them out.
	There's plenty all over.
	So just reach out to me.
	You have my contact info if you're ever in town.
	All right.
	Will do.
	Awesome.
	All righty.
	Drones, you got anything you want to say to Alex?
	This is Drones, if you didn't see him earlier.
	Thank you for coming on, man.
	Thank you very much.
	Thanks for having me.
	Yeah, cool.
	All right.
	Well, we will catch you next time.
	Have a good night, and thank you again, Alex.
	Yep, y 'all too.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	All right, all right, all right.
	Sorry, that was a...
	I don't know how I opened the show kind of crazy with such a giant guest.
	I got so nervous.
	That was Alex Rosen.
	If you're not following him on Rumble, please do so.
	He is so great, and I couldn't say it enough, even though I tried.
	Just because of, you know, we're always talking about all the bad parts about it, you know, the aftermath.
	So it's nice to talk about...
	These pedophiles actually getting busted and caught and stopped.
	So moving on, because there's just some other things that we also need to cover.
	We actually have another guest that we're going to be bringing on on the show.
	He is Aaron, a good friend of ours.
	And so let's go ahead and bring him on in studio.
	Reporting alive.
	Oh, you're not Alex Rosen.
	Reporting alive.
	Live, and you're coming in straight from Hawaii.
	So we got Aaron, and we'll change up that name here in a bit.
	Hey, thanks for joining us on the show tonight.
	Oh, no.
	I can't hear you.
	All right, we'll get that situated.
	We'll get it situated.
	All right.
	So, let's see.
	Sorry about that.
	We will get him squared away and you'll be able to hear his great voice in just a moment.
	But basically we're going to be giving a little bit of an update on everything that we can as far as...
	Hawaii, because we actually have a good friend of ours with feet on the ground over there.
	And he will be...
	We linked him up with...
	I tried to link him up with Shelby.
	I haven't heard back from her in a while.
	So I'll get the update now, I guess, through Aaron, who is out there in Hawaii, and see how that's going.
	So that is coming up as soon as we can get it together.
	I'm going to show you guys one more time.
	Let's see.
	I'm going to show you guys our wonderful, which I don't do enough of, and people tell me all the time.
	You guys don't share your website.
	Here's our website, and that's not our website.
	I'm on the wrong thing.
	Sorry, drones.
	Quit.
	I'm not used to that browser.
	I told you guys we switched over to Brave New Browser.
	And I just don't know which one it is.
	So.
	Oh, you're fixing that.
	Okay.
	Well.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	It's all right.
	There it is.
	Info.
	Info.
	Drones, you have me all mixed up.
	TheLibertyBroadcast.com, where you can find us on Tuesdays, 8-ish.
	Let me take a look at the chat.
	Let me take a look at the chat.
	That's what I can do.
	Chat has gone nuts.
	Huh?
	The chat went nuts.
	The chat was going nuts.
	Yeah, Alex getting his steps.
	Is this the chat, right, you're talking about?
	Yeah, that's all rumble got taken over.
	Our website's also been getting crazy, too.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Well, we're having some technical difficulties with the volume here.
	Let's see.
	Please buy Alex.
	Oh, no.
	How else?
	What is happening?
	Who's taking over our chat?
	So, somebody...
	Oh, that's what you mean.
	So, someone got in our chat.
	What are they called?
	Trolls or something?
	Is that what they're called?
	Somebody jumped in on our chat, but, you know...
	We'll see how that goes.
	Give me just one second here.
	Okay.
	Trying to.
	Let's see.
	Because Drone Z is on my screen.
	Let me see if I can pull this up.
	Over here.
	Alright.
	Maybe not.
	Okay, I could talk about news, right?
	That's kind of why we're here.
	Is that what you're hoping that I'll do?
	You know, there has been a lot going on with World War III, which is what we were talking about a little bit on.
	I don't really want to get into it.
	We spent our last episode kind of talking about some stuff.
	I'd rather just not even give it any more flame.
	I just hope and pray that we're able to pull out of this.
	Sooner than later.
	Oh yeah, today also Owen Schreuer went and turned himself in.
	He did an interview with Alex Jones or he did an interview or he spoke with Alex right before he turned himself in.
	Hopefully he's able to get out sooner than later and it doesn't become a whole situation.
	So obviously you guys should help support Alex.
	Not Alex Owen.
	God, I cannot talk today.
	I'm sorry.
	Our chat is just wild.
	And who is saying all of this?
	Who is this?
	Your fave bomb is...
	Am I saying that wrong?
	Yeah, that's probably what it is.
	Now go wash your mouth.
	Is that like crossing streams?
	She's stuck on Alex.
	I'm stuck on Alex.
	You should be too, Big Daddy.
	Is that Big Daddy shit?
	Is that what that means?
	Yeah, Alex has done so much for the movement, so it's fine if I talk about him.
	I think that should be fine.
	Okay, are we...
	No, for some reason it is just not picking up his audio.
	I can't seem to figure it out.
	He's gone in the room, he's come back in, and I can see him, but see this audio symbol isn't working.
	Alright, well let's have him, can we have him call in?
	Yes.
	While we have him on video?
	No.
	Alright, well let's just have him call in.
	I think that'll be the better thing.
	That way we can actually get an update on that.
	I just don't have a number for him to call in on.
	He can call my phone number.
	Sorry about that, guys.
	Maybe he can get a hold of me here on Telegram.
	I just connected to the Roadcaster.
	We're going to go.
	All right, we're going to call Aaron, who is out in Hawaii giving us a update.
	Oh, it says unable to call.
	I'll talk to him.
	Yeah, just text him my phone number.
	He can call my number.
	I'll connect it to the deal.
	Sorry, guys.
	Bear with us for a minute.
	We are all over the place.
	So another thing is our 100th episode is coming up.
	And we have a lot of great confirmed guests that are going to be in studio hanging out with us.
	We have a really special treat for our long-time watchers of the show.
	And so we'll be opening with some cool tunes.
	That's all I'll say.
	Yeah, so make sure you guys keep up with the episodes on that.
	We will not...
	What is today?
	Today's...
	Yeah, so we will not be having a show next week.
	Just a heads up to any people that tune in that are on the chat.
	What's up?
	I have your number.
	You don't have my phone number?
	Huh?
	You don't have my phone number?
	Why not?
	Oh, you don't have the phone.
	Oh, okay.
	Give me his phone number, geez.
	Here, type it.
	I don't have anybody's number.
	Oh, Lord.
	Sorry, guys.
	We'll cut this when we upload it.
	You guys can also check us out on band.video.
	I'll call him.
	I will call him.
	Am I not?
	Nope.
	Who's local?
	Someone should call to ask how much the Liberty podcast is.
	So these are the...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	Alright, I'm connected now.
	Okay.
	Gonna get myself connected.
	I don't know.
	All right, let's see.
	I did not answer.
	Sorry, guys.
	Thank you.
	I ain't gonna go blind.
	I don't know.
	What's the time difference in Hawaii right now?
	Six hours or something?
	Multiple hours, yeah.
	Probably during the middle of the day right now.
	Free Owen.
	Yep.
	So he's going away.
	He has a website and stuff that you guys can check out.
	Oh, here we go.
	Aaron.
	What's up?
	Hey.
	Hi.
	Hey.
	Welcome to the show.
	Sorry that we had some issues.
	That's okay.
	That's okay.
	Am I live right now?
	You are live right now.
	Yep.
	You are on the show.
	Awesome.
	I guess FaceTime doesn't work.
	FaceTime?
	I try to FaceTime.
	I was like, I don't have his number.
	I don't know.
	No, no.
	On the phone if you have an iPhone.
	Oh, no.
	But it's all good.
	We can do audio.
	I don't have an iPhone.
	Sorry.
	I live Android life.
	I'm sorry.
	I know.
	So, yeah, give us a little bit of an update on how things are going, what's going on over there.
	Well, first of all, aloha from the great island of Maui.
	It is absolutely gorgeous out here.
	There's not a lot of people on the island right now, so it's been incredible to see.
	Parts of it that just usually can't find parking and whatnot.
	I've met a few survivors of the fire and have gotten some eyewitness accounts and sort of through the grapevine information.
	I drove through the area a few times and managed to get just a few seconds of video because actually they have those giant walls on either side of the freeway.
	Like construction walls that you can't see anything.
	They're just like black plastic or something.
	But I did catch some cracks, you know.
	And I sent some stills to drones if he wants to share any of those while we're chatting.
	Oh, perfect.
	Perfect.
	Yeah.
	And so they're already building.
	They're halfway done building new apartment complexes in one area.
	So that was kind of good to see.
	Of course, it looked like they were out of wood again.
	Right.
	But I think some areas are trying to get up and running as quick as possible.
	And the rest of it, they're still dealing with the toxicity of the devastation.
	And they're removing it.
	It's going off-island somewhere.
	But you can imagine all those things that burned, you know.
	And when you drive through the area, it's actually highly, highly monitored with security, police or whatever, deputies lining the highway.
	Wow.
	Did you get stopped or anything at all?
	No, because I didn't stop.
	But if you try to stop and just get a look or if you try to sneak in there at night, they are watching because it's not just a matter of...
	People wanting to poke around, take photos.
	Thieves want to go to the burned jewelry stores to see if they can find gold.
	Oh, yeah.
	And that kind of stuff, burned in the debris.
	It must be a giant undertaking.
	Too bad we don't have video because I wanted to show Unwind Blue.
	So that, you know, I don't get hit by any secret laser attacks.
	Well, yeah, I mean, that's definitely a big deal over there, you know, especially in Hawaii over in that area because, you know, that's where the blue laser, the blue, you know, the blue will save you from the lasers.
	Yeah.
	Or if you have just a blue umbrella, you don't really even have to wear a blue, just carry a blue umbrella with you.
	You know, Shocking news, they sell the blue umbrellas at Costco.
	I sent Jones that photo as well.
	Oh, no.
	So if you're in the know and if you have a Costco membership, you can get a blue umbrella at Costco.
	And probably get a good deal on it, too.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	So these are the apartments that they're building that we're showing here.
	Yeah.
	Look how fast they got that up.
	Yeah, some locals, or a lot of locals, refused to leave the island.
	You know, after they got back, after they were able to come back, you know, because, of course, they were forced off the island.
	Or anyone who wasn't from the island wasn't allowed to go.
	And even if you were, it was hard to get back.
	They were keeping a lot of people out.
	And so what was the sentiment of the locals out there?
	Is it how people think that it is?
	Are they...
	You know, what is your vibe?
	I would say 75% laughed at my laser jokes or more.
	And one person kind of was into the laser stuff a little bit.
	Local.
	These are all local.
	Yeah, so what about, like, besides the lasers, what about the fact, or not the fact, but...
	Let me give you some intel.
	Let me give you some knowledge.
	Sure.
	So, you know, we hear a lot of rumors not being here.
	One of them was like, you know, they were kind of chafting people with hotel rooms.
	I actually talked to people that survived the fire and were put up in like the resort hotel there that also survived the fire.
	And at the cost to the government of like $1,000 a night.
	And the thing is, like, they moved out two months ago, or, you know, several weeks back, and they got, like, a notice, you know, making sure that they were still staying there, and, like, they'd already moved out.
	So that's kind of two interesting things.
	And then another was that from a different person who was out of the state at the time, but he lived in Lahaina for, like, 18 years.
	He said it was true that people were blocked from leaving.
	And he also said there's, in their community, they estimate like over a thousand kids at her.
	Yeah.
	So that right there, that's crazy too.
	No, yeah.
	And, you know, like I said, I have a friend that is out there.
	She was on the board for the American Liberty Awards.
	And so we all were meeting at the venue.
	Everyone was flying in and driving in like two days before.
	And then during the day of the event, she finally said, I can't leave.
	Or maybe we kind of knew the night before.
	And in the morning, she was like, yeah, it's not happening.
	You know, and so were you able to connect with her?
	No, I reached out.
	I just didn't hear anything back.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, I mean, she's really sweet.
	So hopefully, you know, she gets back to you.
	And she has a lot of insight.
	I've seen her on a couple of other shows talking about it.
	She was on our show talking about it also.
	But I'm glad that you were able to chat with some of the locals there.
	But, you know, of course, one person doesn't speak for everybody.
	So, you know, even though the laser thing, I think, is pretty out there, but, you know, I don't cancel it completely out because I just don't do that with anything.
	Well, here's some other interesting info I just recalled from one of the people.
	Lived in there for 18 years.
	He basically said it was a fire tornado, but like a giant tornado that was whipping around the side of the mountain because it was coming, I think it was going west to east.
	And then it was like whipping up and it was like circling around and it was literally, it would like miss a house on the first pass and then like fire would circle around and then it hit the house.
	That's what he said.
	And it was just this really radical configuration of different factors.
	And, you know, and some people save their house by manning it with the water hose and just soaking the yard as a fire stop.
	And they saved several homes.
	I heard that story.
	People did, you know, a lot of people died in the water, elders and stuff.
	There might have been some shark attacks, I think, confirmed as well.
	Right.
	It's just a massive graveyard, right?
	My friend, she was texting us that there was a lot of children that had perished in the fires.
	That the numbers that they were reporting were not accurate.
	They were not real.
	She was texting me very, very soon after the fires that it was in the thousands.
	And at that time, I think they were reporting eight missing kids or some kind of ridiculous number like that.
	And what about the governor being the coroner and all of that?
	I was just about to bring that up.
	It's funny because every local I mentioned that to, they had no idea what I was talking about.
	And so, I mean, to be honest, I haven't verified myself that that is the law, that you can't be both.
	I don't know.
	That's one of those things.
	You have to forgive me for not researching that while I'm out here.
	Oh no, you're fine, you're fine.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	But I did ask a lot of people that.
	And I was like, how is that possible?
	And people were like, I don't know.
	But, you know, corruption runs on different scales and different places and different ways.
	And there's definitely a hierarchy to the control system out here.
	And, yeah.
	I agree.
	And a lot of people are voting for it, which is wild.
	Right, yeah.
	I'll tell you a funny story.
	I'll tell you a funny story.
	I was at a park and I met someone from originally, he lived out here for a long time, but he's originally from Oakland.
	And I mentioned that Oakland is having a really bad crime problem right now.
	He said it was all Republicans' fault.
	And I was like, Oh, so they're running the town of Oakland?
	He's like, oh, no, no.
	I'm like, oh, so they're running the state of California?
	He's like, no, no.
	I was like, well, how is it their fault?
	He's like, well, no one doing the crime is from there.
	I was like, okay, so it's like organized crime.
	He's like, no, no.
	These people are really needy.
	He made it sound like they're coming from Red State, and they're really needy.
	And I'm like, oh, that's why they're still in Gucci bags, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I know.
	So it just goes, not everyone's like that, but it kind of goes into the show you, like, there's a disconnect happening.
	Oh, yeah.
	A giant disconnect.
	People are still fighting the Republican Party of 20 years ago during the Bush era, not realizing they get long years on.
	Right.
	No, it's a, oops, sorry.
	It's pretty incredible that this kind of thing happened.
	I mean, there were a lot of different moving parts to it, which is why people question it, I think.
	Also, because we haven't always been told the truth.
	So whenever something on this magnitude happens, I mean, the first thing that we're thinking is, did this happen?
	Right.
	Always healthy to question everything.
	Right.
	You should always question, especially, you know, whenever there's a history of it, that it's happened.
	And then whenever you see so many, so much information, you know, coming out and still coming out of it, you know, it tells a different story later down the road.
	But I think, you know, I looked at it, you know, right away, like, this is like, this is kind of...
	Crazy.
	But I also see the part where, yeah, of course, the fires were jumping.
	The wind was incredible.
	It was like a hurricane, the no-rain hurricane.
	And so, I mean, we saw video footage of power lines getting, you know, taken down, starting fire, small fires.
	So I can totally see how that would happen, but also there were other parts to it, like some of the laws or things about property ownership in Hawaii were recently changed.
	Some things that were put in place years ago, decades ago, were no longer going to be a factor for people.
	So people rebuilding, now there's new zoning rules or new zoning laws have taken effect.
	So they're not able to build, you know, the way that they had and or, you know, something that is like a car accident, you know, whenever it's just deemed total.
	doubt kind of that did anyone talk about anything like that that you spoke to?
	yeah so I did hear that there is a moratorium like that even though The governor, when he declared the moratorium on selling land, that it was probably illegal.
	The governor doesn't really care about the law, it sounds like.
	I don't know.
	Right.
	I don't know his full political views, but that's what he said when he signed it, but I guess it's still sustained.
	But there's offers to buy all over the place.
	By the way, drones, I did log back into the video.
	Oh yeah, let's check it out.
	The director has me muted.
	I don't see the screen.
	Let me just get in there real quick and see what's going on.
	Are you surfing Twitter or something?
	No, I was looking for a picture of you, actually.
	Oh yeah, I see your video.
	So the thing is...
	I have to hang up?
	No, no, no.
	Just stay in the state.
	Keep doing what you're doing.
	Just keep doing what you're doing.
	Because I don't see anything online.
	Yeah, stay on the...
	We'll do it live!
	We'll do it live.
	We'll do it live!
	Look.
	Let's see if this works.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, it works.
	Kind of.
	Turn your phone the other way.
	What, like this?
	No, no, no.
	Like...
	Oh, like this.
	Got it.
	Like that.
	There you are.
	Now it broke.
	Great.
	It's too active.
	It flashed and it came back.
	Am I back?
	Yeah, you're good.
	Just keep talking.
	Okay, cool.
	Just remove it and re-put it.
	Oh, no.
	It's catching up.
	Anywho.
	We'll see what happens.
	You still have his name.
	It's Alex Rosen.
	Just erase that.
	Just turn that off.
	Where is that at?
	Yeah, so what else?
	What else?
	Tell us more.
	Well, let's see.
	Let's get a view.
	So you don't have to look at me.
	So we can't see you anymore.
	That's the problem.
	So sign back out and sign back in one more time.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You turned your phone, but keep your phone turned when you sign back in.
	Don't turn it whenever it is.
	Can I refresh it?
	It looks good.
	I can see everything now.
	Yeah.
	Looks good.
	Wow.
	There you are.
	Aloha.
	Aloha.
	Yeah.
	I like it.
	How do I turn it off?
	I'm turning it off.
	I'm sorry.
	Great.
	Okay, great.
	There it is.
	There we are.
	You got your finger on the lens.
	Oh, is it on the back?
	Is it on the back camera?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Oh, because I refreshed it.
	Oh, my bad.
	Oh, there should be an icon on the thing.
	There you go, yeah.
	There you are.
	All right, yeah, yeah.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I thought I was giving you this view.
	You're okay.
	Can you see me?
	Yes, we can see you.
	All right, cool.
	There we go.
	So, we're back.
	So, which direction?
	How close are you to Lahaina?
	Well, actually, Lahaina, can you see me this way?
	Yes.
	See that mountain there?
	Lahaina, that's West Mallee.
	And so Lahaina is around that.
	So you can't see it.
	It's a fairly big island.
	I mean, it's not like Texas big, but you can drive around it in a couple hours.
	You know, a few hours.
	But it is that way.
	And you can see the ocean.
	From here.
	And about the last sunset on this trip, unfortunately.
	But yeah, here it is.
	It's crazy.
	Everything out there is just so alive.
	Yeah, it's everywhere you look is unbelievable.
	And the lighting is changing every 15 seconds.
	Nothing is ever the same in any direction that you're looking at.
	It's all completely amazing.
	Check out that view of the clouds there, the mountain there.
	Someone said the blue lasers were in the fire tornado.
	That's why you couldn't see them.
	Well, you see all the...
	Actually, this is a great example.
	You can see all the non-blue roofs.
	I'm in a danger zone right here.
	There aren't any blue roofs.
	I mean, this place could go up at any moment.
	I'm sad to say.
	But fortunately, it'll all go up in flames and you will be the last man standing with your blue shirt.
	No, I'm not going to project that intention.
	This is a peaceful place.
	It's very safe.
	You should come and bring the family.
	They need your tourism money.
	They're hurting.
	What's the deal with that?
	Maui Strong rebuilds Lahaina.
	It's good to see Lahaina is being rebuilt at some level.
	And that some people were taken care of.
	And maybe a good portion of people were.
	And generally, there's a lot of sadness in the air, but it's healing.
	People are calm.
	There's not a rage.
	But the investigations are being done.
	If the sheriff is a coroner, people are looking into that.
	You know, if that's illegal, I believe that's being looked into.
	I can't confirm that, but based on some people I've talked to, it sounds like the whole thing is being looked at, the response, all of it.
	So, hopefully it really is.
	Yeah, so they're encouraging tourism.
	Oh, yeah.
	In fact, I mean, I've been here several times on this trip.
	I've never seen this few of tourists, which has been great, actually.
	Believe me, you could stop on the side of the road and actually see a lot of places that normally you can't get parking.
	But there's a lot to see.
	It's really great.
	And depending on what you want to do, it's not that expensive, but be prepared for definite inflation out here.
	I mean, even fast food places that might be $5 there, or more like $10 here, for some things.
	But you know the old-school mom-and-pop places?
	it's actually the best we use is for sure and um yeah Yeah, and there's literally food falling off the trees.
	Yeah, no, I'm glad that you didn't get stopped.
	There's some papayas right there.
	We actually lost your video footage just a minute ago.
	It might be the internet out there.
	I guess when you got there, you can't realize if it's bad or not.
	It says I'm in the room.
	I'm back in the room.
	Oh, dang.
	Wait, wait.
	Am I back?
	Negative.
	Negative.
	So were you just there for business?
	It says I'm in the room.
	I was here basically I planned it before the tragedy.
	Yeah.
	There was a sale, a ridiculous sale.
	This was maybe a slower time of the year, and I just caught some, like, $24 promotion on the airport fair.
	And from Texas, it was, like, $350.
	And it's some change.
	So it's kind of hard to be.
	Right.
	Yeah, no doubt.
	And then it worked out that because of the tragedy, it just happened to be less people here still.
	I guess people don't really know the island.
	They think of it as kind of a small island and like half of it dying or something.
	But it's really a small portion.
	There's no problem except just to go into that one down, which is partially reopening slowly.
	Right.
	So we'll just show these pictures one more time that you shared with us.
	Let's see.
	How do we get these pictures on?
	Oh, there you go.
	Thank you.
	So here's a picture.
	Here's the fencing on the sides that Aaron was talking about.
	And the apartments.
	He says these are going up pretty quickly, thankfully.
	Thankfully.
	Some burn.
	Look at that.
	They're building.
	Rebuilding.
	I think I logged back in.
	I know we're signing off, but I did log back on.
	Yeah, well, we definitely appreciate you going out there and giving us a little bit.
	I actually went on a trip just to do Liberty broadcast.
	No, no, I mean, we appreciate you giving us the update.
	No, no, I'm getting the tax rate off, remember?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We're giving you the tax right off, yeah.
	Because we all do taxes here.
	You're back on with us.
	So, yeah.
	With the rear camera.
	We appreciate you sharing your information with us, is what I mean.
	Giving us the insight.
	Well, am I back on a good camera?
	Yes.
	Cool.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And that was part of it after the tragedy.
	I did want to make it a little bit of a backfinding mission.
	And I'm just, you know, being contacted, I've enjoyed talking to people.
	Some people approached me and just wanted to talk, too.
	So I definitely wanted to see if I could garner any insight while I'm here.
	Yeah, I mean, get the information from the people.
	Yeah, but it sounds like it was definitely from the electrical system charging.
	There's a lot of videos of it and the 90 plus mile per hour wind and sort of a cycling effect with whipping against the mountain.
	It's hard to imagine unless you're here.
	Just such a neat landscape.
	Yeah, I mean, it's such a small island.
	You're just always getting hit by the craziest weather.
	It's not the island, it's the mountain features.
	You basically have the lowlands near the water, and then it just goes up.
	And it's drastic changes.
	Temperature, air.
	And in the side of the mountain, you have the raining side, the dry side, because it's being hit from different directions of the different weather systems and the sun in different ways.
	And so all the islands kind of share similar characteristics, like the raining jungle side will be on the southeast side, usually.
	But there's variations.
	So it's just kind of hard to imagine.
	This landscape and how it is possible to what happened happened, you know, just by simply an ignition source and the wind.
	I mean, it's just insane.
	Circumstances.
	But, you know, remain open and remain vigilant.
	Yes.
	Hey, Aaron, are you trying to tell me it's not lasers, man?
	Is it lasers?
	Is that a lycer?
	A lazar?
	Are you bashing Bob Lazar's name?
	No, no, no.
	A laser.
	The laser start the freaking fire, man?
	Hey, I'll tell you what, man.
	It was a freaking kitty cat laser.
	Rainbow kitty cat laser, dude.
	With the lasers coming out of the eyes.
	And then the rainbow of Hawaii.
	He knows about those.
	I didn't know you knew about those.
	Oh, I know about the laser kitty cat rainbow.
	It's a squad.
	They were formed in the deep military networks.
	And they're serious.
	They've infiltrated the island.
	And there's kitties running around everywhere with laser-cated lilies.
	And you never know.
	Oh, how cute.
	Sounds so cute.
	You never know that when they will strike.
	Luckily, we have chickens on patrol.
	Oh, yeah, they have roosters.
	Yeah, the chickens here are like squirrels.
	Yeah, I know.
	They live everywhere.
	There's some battalion elements of the chicken squad, and they are fighting the laser kittens, per my ankle.
	But I can either confirm or deny the existence of the laser kitties officially.
	Well, keep your secrets.
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	Do you do this often?
	Do you want to share any information about yourself or where people can get any video or any pics or anything?
	Are you sharing any of that?
	Yeah, you can give me a...
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	No worries.
	No worries.
	All right.
	Well, we definitely...
	Yeah, no worries.
	I mean, we appreciate what you do.
	I don't really...
	I haven't posted pictures anywhere.
	Yeah.
	But you can update your website.
	Awesome.
	We will.
	We will share...
	Keep your listeners informed.
	Yeah, we'll share those pictures that you share with drones about it, as well as the information.
	Which we are doing here.
	Awesome.
	How's the weather out there?
	It's raining all week.
	I don't know.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, if you stay tuned after, you know, stick around right after we are doing a little something about that.
	So we'll have some insight on that in just a bit.
	Oh, excellent.
	Okay.
	Sounds good.
	All right.
	Well, thank you so much, Aaron, reporting from...
	Great job.
	Take care.
	Aloha.
	Aloha.
	Maui strong.
	Maui strong, for sure.
	Thank you so much.
	Thanks.
	Have a good night.
	You too.
	All right.
	What a kooky broadcast.
	Kooky.
	I am just all over the place.
	I don't know what's up, what's down.
	And so on that note...
	We are going to just jump right into it because I'm just having just the strangest off day today.
	So if you guys are tuning in for the first time, we really appreciate it.
	It is actually, believe it or not, just a little bit more tuned in.
	I'm a little bit more tuned in than I am.
	But nonetheless, we did have some awesome guests here with us tonight.
	One being Alex Rosen, which you can follow him on Rumble.
	So if you haven't already done so, please do so.
	And then our second, Aaron, where you can find nowhere because he is a secret man.
	So we are going to go ahead and wrap the show up.
	And if you guys, like I said, are sticking around or you are still around, you can enjoy the next portion or the last final portion of the...
	We love to just give you guys a little bit of insight.
	We know we have people tuned into the show from all over the world, so we are going to go ahead and jump into it.
	And what I mean by that is the Illuminati weather.
	Oh yes, it's time for another Illuminati weather report brought to you by the Liberty Broadcast.
	So what's going to be going on is the Illuminati is going to be causing things over time.
	Things are going to start to get cooler.
	If we go ahead and take a look at this map here that doesn't exist, we'll go back and I'll just explain it to you.
	Things are just going to start to get colder over time and also...
	The Illuminati is going to start making things get really wet, which is fine by me because we do actually need the rain, you know, so send us everything you got.
	Just don't get too crazy.
	I had to drive through some rain earlier.
	I almost died.
	But we made it through, and anyways, like, just watch out for the rain.
	If you're down in the south, you know, if you're up in the north, you know, the problem is is that with the weather, we don't really know what's going on.
	You know, we're in El Nino, you know, now, and that's just caused everything to become very unpredictable.
	And back to you, Rachel.
	And that was the Illuminati weather by Alex Drones.
	We appreciate it.
	Sometimes he gives us real weather advice, and that is happening more and more and more.
	So we are actually giving the weather.
	And it is actually coming from the Illuminati.
	Anywho, drones, please, let's save ourselves.
	Let's save ourselves.
	What am I going to do?
	You got anything else?
	Oh, yeah, I got it.
	Let's save ourselves.
	All right, let's go.
	All right, everybody, check it out.
	I just want to let you all know, tune in to the Liberty Broadcast at 8 p.m. every Tuesday.
	And, you know, at dlibertybroadcast.com.
	You can also subscribe to us on Rumble at rumble.com slash broadcast.
	You know, be sure to go there and see all the crazy stuff that happened in the chat.
	Actually, the chat probably is going to go away.
	But, yeah, thank you all for tuning in.
	And I would like to say to everybody, just remember to live free.
	And stay free.
	And my apologies for the wonky broadcast tonight.
	But tune in.
	Not next Tuesday.
	We will not be here.
	We are not having a Halloween show.
	But please do tune in the week after.
	We're going to have another special guest.
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