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The Liberty Broadcast: Leo Zagami. Episode #41
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Leo!
Welcome to the show, Leo.
We are so glad to have you.
Well, a little man for a six foot one.
Oh, a little man.
I'm sorry.
He's a big man.
I haven't seen you in person.
I'm sorry.
Hello, guys.
It's a pleasure.
It's a pleasure to be with the Liberty Broadcast today.
Thank you.
Thank you for joining us.
Sorry about that.
I've never seen you.
Let's roll it.
Let's roll it.
So, thank you again for joining us, Leo.
We wanted to have you on because there's so much going on, and I feel like you are the expert that is going to bring us the information that we all need.
Anything that's coming to, you know, I think we're looking at Illuminati things.
We're looking at New World Order things.
We chatted a little bit.
I wanted to hit on the Nancy Pelosi a little bit.
With a Catholic church in her hometown saying that they were not going to be giving her communion anymore.
So we can dive right into that.
And then we also wanted to talk a little bit about your new book that is out, I think, in February.
You released it.
Yes, yes, yes.
Thank you for having me on again.
And yes, I published this book in February.
It seems to be going quite well, especially because it forecasted everything that is materializing in front of our eyes.
And more, because on one side, it's an essay, an essay on the occult roots of the Great Reset, so a unique book, because there are no books, to my knowledge, that discuss the occult roots of Klaus Schwab's creation, even if it's not really Klaus Schwab, who has created the Great Reset, like you will discover in my book.
It goes back...
Well, then you should be living in the next couple of years because cities are...
All doomed, unfortunately.
They will be transformed into smart cities.
And that's, of course, not so smart, because in my view of smart, everything that is called that way is actually satanic.
That S stands for Satan rather than for smart.
So you have a satanic phone, a satanic car, a satanic house, and so on.
And of course, they...
I want you to embrace the smart era because behind that there is the rise of cyber-Satan and artificial intelligence, which is another of the topics that I touch in my book.
Yes, which is upon all of us now.
Definitely, we see it here.
I believe the metaverse, we're going to be having the biggest building in Austin is going to be dedicated, or it's going to be the meta-building.
Coming to Austin.
That's why I say no matter if you are in a blue or a red state, the cities are unfortunately going to transform themselves in places where you can only access if you are monitored constantly by artificial intelligence, you show all your vaccinations, you comply.
And you simply obey and accept that you are observed 24 hours a day.
On top of that, there is the possibility that the people who live in all major cities from here to 2030 will be microchipped and asked to microchip.
So that's why I'm saying the possibility to build yourself an alternative outside of the city is essential.
Right.
And I saw, you know, in your book, you hit on the Great Reset.
And you talk about something else, which is a movement that definitely should be happening, which is the Great Reject, right?
So we need to reject this reset that is happening to us, is being pushed on us.
And it almost feels like you have to comply.
And a lot of people...
It feels to me that a lot of people don't know that you can push back and you don't have to comply.
You can actually reject the reset.
Absolutely.
That's a very important thing that you just cited.
I mean, the metaverse, of course, is about people who will be trapped in that reality and gradually they will fall into...
A digital prison, a digital cage of sorts.
For those who instead want to rebel to all this, there is a series of possibilities.
Things that you can do.
That's why in my book I describe certain areas of the U.S. rather than others, but also what to do.
Form like-minded communities, communities that, of course, need to be self-sustainable, but at the same time they need to, of course, be able to defend themselves.
Be ready to abandon, if you're still living in a big city, the big city and have an emergency plan to abandon the city within a number of years.
When you see that there are certain problems.
We don't have yet a thermonuclear confrontation or the apocalyptic scenario that some people then...
It might be possible.
I talk in my book about the possibility that this series of conflicts from the one in Ukraine to the imminent one in Taiwan will trigger a third world war.
But in any case, there will be cyber attacks that have, by the way, been also announced by the Davos Club, which is meeting right as we speak, because they are having their own gathering.
Yeah.
person after two years.
The last one saw the participation in early 2020 of a Of even Trump, who was in a very different situation from now and was, of course, criticizing the whole socialism and kind of getting on the nerves, I guess, of the Taoist elite.
But now we have this, of course, presentation of Zelensky, special guest.
He arrives, intervenes there and wants $5 billion a month.
Starts saying, I give you the patronage.
If you give me some money, I entitle you a street, a factory, a village.
I give you a piece of land.
Whatever.
Give me the money.
Zelensky is kind of like everything for sale in Ukraine, it seems.
Even if, of course, the margins...
For him and Ukraine are getting smaller and smaller because, as we know, Russia has taken the Donbass, which is the minerally rich area, and also the ports that go on the sea.
So creating also a practical problem for a country that lives out of export of grain and flour.
But all this, in a way, was...
Predicted in my book because I knew that they needed a confrontation of this kind to then implement all the things that would otherwise be impossible to implement.
I mean, who will accept to pay six dollars a gallon in some places, even seven now here in California and in other places in the US, of course, maybe less, but still.
Still higher.
Double the price, three times the price of what you used to pay.
So who will accept all this if not in the name of some kind of emergency?
So, of course, we can say that Putin has his reasons.
Everybody has their reasons when the war starts.
But ultimately, the main reason is always money and interest.
Right.
And we just keep pouring money and pouring money into this war.
At the same time, here, you know, and now you're here, you're not, you know, now you're here in the States.
You can see the suffering that we're having to endure because we are pouring money into this war that we have no business being involved in.
This war was something that was going to happen a long time ago.
I believe you'd mentioned that you'd been in Russia at that time, or you've been in Ukraine.
I got told that this war will happen 20 years ago.
I mean, I worked in Russia as a DJ record producer, as a person that was working with the Cultural Department of the Russian Federation for a period.
And so I had an experience, a direct experience in the period immediately after the Soviet Union.
So in the middle of the 90s, I started to go in Russia when it was pretty dangerous.
Then it kind of like...
He got relaxed after Boris Yeltsin was kind of cast aside by Vladimir Putin and the rise of Vladimir Putin coincided with a country that finally found a new wealth that they didn't have.
You have to understand that for us it's very difficult here in the West and in America to really realize How Russia has never really had that much?
And so the people are not really used to having much riches or consumerism was, of course, something that didn't happen during the Soviet Union because they were entrenched in that hideous ideology that is communism.
But at the same time, that period of the Soviet Union...
It convinced them that they can't be a godless society.
So immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union, they re-embraced the Orthodox Church, and now they go hand in hand with the Orthodox Church, just as in the time of the Tsar, of the Russian Empire, when the Orthodox Church was part of it.
And, of course...
The interest of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine is very big because Ukraine is considered the birthplace of Russian religious tradition, and not only that.
I mean, it is a country that was part of the Russian Empire, but it was also a country that saw the birth of none other than Madame Blavatsky.
Madame Blavatsky was an Ukrainian.
She then grew up in the Russian Empire.
She ended up coming in America and naturalizing here in America, but she was originally Ukrainian.
And she founded, as we all know, the Theosophical Society in 1875, which became the basis for modern Satanism.
And on top of that, also the basis for...
Nazism.
Yeah, I mean, I know it sounds a bit weird, but a secret society, a Theosophical Society, influenced Hitler so much that he decided to use the Zvastika because he found Zvastika on a publication of the Theosophical Society.
And the people from the Theosophical Milieu in Austria were the ones who gave birth to Ariosophy and to those, unfortunately, those perverse...
That perverse and twisted ideology that saw the Aryan nation, the birth of the Aryan first, we can say, which is basically the fact that they saw the German people being at the top of the chain and instead they started to be really very negative towards the Jewish people and unfortunately that led to To
the Holocaust.
But it was not only that that led to the Holocaust.
We have to understand that we had also in Russia a publication that surfaced back then called the Protocols of the Sages of Zion.
Now this publication has some elements of truth but also a lot of confusion because people who Who don't really know the history of the Jewish people, of Judaism, and the heresies that are to be found in Judaism, like Sabbatean Frankism, is an heresy that eventually created a lot of problems for all the Jewish people.
And that heresy is not really studied outside of Judaism, so it's not really well understood.
As well as, for example, The fact that labor Zionism, it's really something very much connected with the Sabbatean Frankism.
So we don't really know much about certain things because we don't study them deeply.
And then we tend to generalize them and make a mess and start talking about things like Khazarian Mafia, this and that, without really...
Understanding that if we actually went and studied these things, we will find that the reality is even more elaborate, intricate, and incredible than a conspiracy theory.
Yeah, and that's all across the board, right?
That's with everything.
That's with...
Yeah, even, for example, in the Catholic tradition, you have the Jesuits, but I don't consider the Jesuits as being Catholics.
They are a product of the Catholic Church, but they are nothing...
That we can consider Christian.
Rather, they are an organization dedicated to the power of the Catholic Church and at the same time also with a very vast knowledge of science and also paganism.
They were entrenched with Egyptology from the very start.
So the Jesuits are the leaders.
of this Catholic Church today with having achieved also a Pope for the first time in history who is Jesuit.
This was a very unusual move because they represented up until then the intelligence and military side of the Vatican.
that doesn't really want to surface or face the public prefers to say behind closed doors especially the Jesuits of the fourth vow because you have to understand the Jesuits I mean, even in Volume 7, I made a brief description of what the Sabbatean Frankists are and how important it is to understand them.
But also in other books, like, for example, Volume 4, I explain very much in detail, not only...
The Sabbatean Frankists, but also their connection with the Jesuits and how the Jesuits have infiltrated every single institution, also when it comes to culture, education.
Georgetown University, where Nancy Pelosi met and started to hang out with her husband, who now is, by the way, a Bohemian Club member.
Of course.
The husband, they were both hanging out in Georgetown University.
Georgetown University has some very interesting groups of alumni, of students who have formed together with the Jesuit a secret society known as the stewards, the stewards society, and now they seem to have branched off in two different A secret society called the Stewards.
But basically, in Georgetown, there is still to this day a secret society that considers itself to be a private association that is no more, no less than the skull and bones, for example, in Yale.
But it was co-founded by the Jesuits.
To the Jesuits.
And that's why we see that Nancy Pelosi is a person that has almost an attitude when it comes down to her membership in the Gatui Church.
She's the elite.
You can't criticize her.
So even if now you have the Archbishop Cordione of San Francisco who is Saying you can't take the communion, you can't partake in the Eucharist.
Well, she's defiant.
She's defiant and she seems to not have accepted.
I mean, her answer today to the Archbishop was pretty much an act of defiance.
Yeah, so Nancy Pelosi responded...
I mean, to respect what the dogmas of, I mean, the Catholic Church...
It has certain rules.
And life is sacred for the Catholic Church from the moment of conception.
Which she acknowledged in her response also.
In the beginning of her response, she acknowledged that, you know, that pro-life...
And then after she said that, she immediately said something regarding the death penalty.
No, but also being forced.
You know, it's not nice to be forced into...
I mean, it's not a question of being forced to accept something.
You have embraced the faith.
You can actually decide to partake of it and be faithful like everybody else and believe.
Otherwise, you can't simply live this faith.
You don't change the faith.
You can't change the faith.
Or you can't also...
Cut up certain things that you like and leave out certain others that you don't like.
I mean, it's a package.
It's a package.
And if you're not happy with that package, you can go somewhere else.
I mean, there is a variety of religions that will accept that.
But, I mean, here we are talking about also people who have nothing to do with the Catholic Church, like Bupi Goldberg, for example, who is...
She's pretending in her life to be a Jewish person, but she's not even a Jewish person.
She pretends to be a Jewish person.
That's even more sick.
Whoopi Goldberg basically criticized this archbishop saying he didn't know his job.
Now, I mean, it seems like that's really something.
I mean, we know that Whoopi...
It's called that way because she farts, and now she took her name, Whoopi Goldberg.
But we can say that maybe she farted her head.
Yeah, like anything Whoopi Goldberg says is not something that anyone should be listening to at all.
But then I'm surprised with people like, instead, Alessandro Casacortes, because Alessandro Casacortes is not simply A communist leftist extremist, which she is.
Alessandro Casio Cortes is, on the contrary of Whoopi Goldberg, which I repeat, is not a Catholic, so you can maybe accept a need in somebody, you know, that has some wrong ideas about Catholics, doesn't understand Catholics, doesn't understand that an archbishop has control over his diocese.
So they can control whatever they can establish if somebody is in a state of grave sin.
They can establish if somebody needs an exorcism.
These are all things that are done within a...
It's the decision of a bishop to do so.
So Cordiglione contacted Nancy Pelosi several times.
She refused to...
We have dialogue regarding this problem, and in the end, the bishop simply couldn't accept the state of grave sin, and he thought to himself, I will be an hypocrite if I continue.
Now, this is, though, a matter that has been discussed for more than a year in the Catholic Church, since they have tried to give an answer to a lot of people who said, There is both Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi who are promoting abortion and at the same time, the same Catholic.
Right.
From the Vatican headquarters, there's always been a kind of like ambiguous...
Please don't go there to the bishops.
Let's not make it a matter of confrontation.
And in the end, even saying that Pope Francis is pushing himself to say that the Eucharist is actually the bread of sinners more than partaking in the Corpus Christi, in what is, of course, the body of Christ.
So there is...
Here, a Pope that, of course, Nancy Pelosi is connected to.
In my latest book, in fact, I end up showing exactly the Masonic salute that was given by Nancy Pelosi when she went to the Vatican.
This is a Masonic salute.
I mean, this is not a normal salute.
Right, right.
Exactly.
And these kinds of things were always something that was hidden.
The whole point of this was the secret society was to be a secret.
And now...
You know, that we're living in this crazy chaos.
It seems like they're more open about it.
They're okay to, you know, be photographed doing these, you know, these handshakes or these hand gestures and coming out and saying that.
We have George Soros, you know, today I think he spoke and was saying...
That World War III is coming and, you know, pretty much we're all going to be taken out.
Or he was saying, you know, I didn't get to watch all of the bits.
But I know, you know, George Soros was up there, you know, saying kind of the same thing that he's been saying all along, which is, you know, depopulation or finding a way to make everybody seem like it's a normal thing or it's okay.
And it's much more out in the open now.
Yeah, I'm in the open because now they are coming to that moment of realization for the whole project.
They don't need to hide any longer.
They have already started the process for the depopulation.
They have, of course, started it with a biological warfare that included both the virus, the vaccines, and so on.
And then, of course, then after it continues, it continues because it continues maybe.
I hope not.
But unfortunately, that's one of the possibilities that we've been discussing also in my book with the second phase, which I already announced last year on Infowars, which is the nuclear phase.
And so then when you start having that phase, well, that is, of course, a worsening of the situation when you have war.
But you're also going to have famine.
You're going to have famine because Zelensky that you just showed, Zelensky wants billions.
Zelensky wants billions, but Zelensky at the same time...
It's also forcing us to spend more and more money in a moment in which we have inflation already from the idiotic lockdowns, the COVID restrictions and everything else that has destroyed our economy.
On top of that now, we also have all the restrictions imposed on a country like Russia that was, of course, helping us.
Helping us, like Ukraine was helping us as the breadbasket of Europe.
Russia was also giving us flour and grain.
But also, on top of that, gas and oil.
So here in America, we don't have yet many problems regarding that.
We see it, though, with the prices going up.
But in reality, if we wanted self...
If we wanted energy independence in this country, we could obtain it like we obtained it back in the days of Donald J. Trump.
So this is a political decision made because, of course, like Joe Biden himself is admitting, it's all part of this Green New Deal, a great reset, moving towards self-sustainable and all that rubbish.
That is this new kind of economy, which, of course, is being launched and promoted.
So in the Western countries, where we still have people that maybe have a little bit of money in the bank, a little bit, I'm not saying people are left with millions, but even that little money they have in the bank or even the house they have under their name will be lost.
Because that is ultimately where Schwab and company wants to go.
The plan that I have showed in my book started with the Society of the Illuminati, the Order of the Illuminati of Adam Bishop, the Order Illuminatorum, then branched out through groups later on because the Order of the Illuminati itself didn't really last that long with this name.
But later on, under various names and disguises, his disciples were capable of promoting communism.
It happened initially with the League of the Just, which then published with Karl Marx the Manifesto of Communism.
It happened with the experimentation done with the first Paris Commune.
It lasted only a few months, but was an experiment that was loaded by Marx and others, and that was, of course, supported by the Grand Orient of France and certain Masonic lodges.
Those lodges of remission in 1877 made a decision to not believe any longer in God, to become lodges that will accept atheists.
To become lodges that had progressive values, of course.
Those values are, of course, the values that are promoted within the socialism and communist milieu.
And in the 1890s, the Russian immigrants in France got initiated in that form of Freemasonry, which was pushed very much by the Jesuits and the Illuminati, and they gave birth to the Grand Orient of the Russian people.
After 1905, there was a first attempt to the revolution.
It didn't work out well.
There was already an attempt in 1825.
That didn't work out well.
But there were several attempts.
The history of Russia was filled up with attempts, revolutionary attempts.
But after 1905, Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks found their ideal home in this Grand Orient of the Russian people.
So Vladimir...
Lenin, who was initiated in Paris in a lodge that was actually involved even with the experimentation of the Paris Commune, which was the first time we can recall the dictator of the proletariat, as they say, the dictator of the proletary people.
And so when Lenin takes control of Russia...
And establishes the Communist Party in Russia.
And at that point, of course, with the October Revolution, changes the course of history.
He closes down the Grand Orient of the Russian people soon after, which they didn't need any more.
They didn't need any more.
They have accomplished their mission.
And that mission was...
To establish the Soviet Union, which was the first time communism rose to power in such a big country.
Soon after, China was inspired.
Mao Zedong was inspired by Vladimir Lenin, was inspired by what happened in Russia.
And he himself, Mao Zedong...
He took on the long march in China that will lead him to become the leader of the Chinese people in 1949.
And basically from 1951 with the Chinese Communist Party, we have just seen the celebrations recently.
I don't know if you can show the images of those celebrations that were very impressive in which Xi Jinping He kind of launched his plans and also threatened the West, saying, don't you dare.
And now this threatening of the West comes in again because we saw Joe Biden.
Joe Biden asserting that the United States will defend Taiwan and at that point they will enter war with China.
So this is basically Even worse than what's happening with Ukraine, that up until now is a proxy war.
From what Biden has said, even if it's always ambiguous in the style of this policy with China, it's always been ambiguous.
So we can say that definitely if America defends with their own military, their own bases in Asia, Taiwan, which, by the way, We'll be defended also by Japan.
That's the thing.
Why did Biden announce that in Japan and everybody then said, oh, well, Biden is being Biden as usual after nearly creating the Third World War?
With his announcement that Vladimir Putin was this and that, right at his doorstep in Poland.
And now we suddenly have, instead, him saying, "Oh, we're going to defend military Taiwan." He had to walk that back, but yes.
He said it.
He said it.
Of course, take it back as much as they want.
But they said it because there is a reason why they said it in Japan.
Japan basically has decided to defend, at all costs, Taiwan.
So the moment in which China invades Taiwan, Japan enters the war.
Japan is, of course, linked to America and automatically you have the war with America.
So it's a different kind of situation from the one in Ukraine, a much more dangerous one.
Yes.
And I don't think the Americans have understood that.
Well, I don't think that they really wanted the American people to really understand that fully.
A lot of people don't even know that Joe Biden even said that.
You know, recently or that I even tried to walk it back the next day.
I think it's irresponsible.
It wasn't really him.
It was the White House, as usual, who tries to walk.
Right.
They make amends.
Repeat, the difference with what was stated in Poland and, of course, out of his, he said, out of his passionate state of being emotionally drawn to do such a heavy condemnation of Vladimir Putin in Russia, well, it's not the same case with Japan.
It was a much more rational approach there in Japan.
You can also see...
From the way he reacts to the journalist, it was kind of like a clear will to say that.
It wasn't like just came out.
He was like making a statement.
And clearly, I think that immediately...
The White House backtracked, whatever.
But we have to also understand the Vatican role in all this, because the Vatican has some very big interest with China.
They signed the deal in 2018, and the Pope's biggest dream is to go to China.
Now that actually a lot of Catholic people at the high level of the Catholic Church in China have been arrested and the Pope is not saying anything.
This is because the Pope has signed a deal with China.
So either you adhere to, you stick to the rules and regulation of the Chinese Communist Party or either you...
That's it.
You can't continue being a religion in China.
So it's almost like a state-driven religion these days in China, the Catholic faith.
It's no longer the Catholic faith that used to be present at the time of Ratzinger, when there was a lot of...
Grievance and confrontation between China and the Vatican.
Then, after the rise to power of the first Jesuit, everything changed.
And I explained that in Volume 4 of my Confessions.
I explained the almost 500 years of history that connected China with the Jesuit Order.
So, it's not just a history that starts with the Chinese Communist Party or with the...
Progressive tendencies of the Jesuits and the Chinese Communist Party that puts them together.
This is a link that goes back almost five centuries between the Jesuits, whose first missionaries were sent to Asia, and one of them, Matteo Ricci, became the advisor to the emperor.
And from there on, they had a very special relationship with China.
That never ended, even after the empire finished.
Yes, yes.
And you talk about that in which of your books, did you say?
In Volume 4?
In particular, in Volume 4, I talk about that, yes.
Okay, and then this is the look at your new book that you just released.
Yes, that's Volume 7. Absolutely.
This is a very important book here regarding China here.
Of course, I talk about...
All the implications of the coming war, because this, I mean, this book was published in early February, but already announced what will happen with the war in Ukraine, with the nuclear threats from Russia.
People, when I published this book, they thought I was exaggerating.
Oh no, there will never be an invasion of Ukraine.
Oh no, there will never be any talk of nuclear war.
Yes, things have changed.
We actually recently, or last week, they did a radiological test here in Austin that lasted a week.
They told us about three days before it happened.
I didn't really see anything, but what is this test all about is what I would wonder.
I mean, it had me wondering, you know, what are we getting ready for?
Some kind of nuclear fallout or what is happening?
First of all, we had here in Southern California an hypersonic missile test.
But the hypersonic missile test in Southern California demonstrated to the whole world that, unfortunately, for some reason...
The US has not invested in hypersonic technology.
And we have already Russia that is using it in the war.
During the recent occupation of Ukraine, we saw some hypersonic missiles being used and launched.
The same thing can be said of China, who has showed to the whole world the launch of hypersonic missiles that were pretty...
And then we had even North Korea launching an hypersonic missile.
So, I mean, when you have North Korea that is actually ahead of you in a technological branch, which is, of course, strategically important, you start wondering.
And so the answer that I was given by my own sources was that apparently...
America has already another kind of technology that they are working on.
Different energy beams that probably would be...
Even more dangerous.
And this is at least what they say behind the scenes, that America has some other kind of technology.
And that's why they haven't invested so much in hypersonic technology.
Right.
It's not because we're too worried about being woke?
Well, I mean, that is really what I thought at the beginning.
I thought that the fact that we concentrate and focus too much on how woke you are, if you have to join the army, if you have to join the CIA, if your mother and father are two women, if you are happy wearing women's underwear at the weekend, I don't know, some weird stuff.
That is, of course, the priority these days of the woke posse.
And when it comes down to military technology, I will say that maybe America has some kind of hidden assets to that kind of confrontation.
We can only hope.
We have to hope, though.
We can only hope.
We can only hope because practically, when it comes to hypersonic missile, launching an hypersonic missile last week turns up here in the Gulf of California.
Big deal.
I mean, you should have already done that 10 or 15 or 20 years ago.
Now it's a little bit too late to have that kind of experimentation when we are already maybe dealing with the possibility of an open confrontation with Russia, but also with China.
Of course, when it comes down to the nuclear business, It's very important in my book, the connection between Klaus Schwab and, of course, the nuclear business, because his father was part of a company.
They were all, his family, traditionally for a few generations, have been involved with a company called Escherweiss.
This company, during the Second World War, became involved with building the turbines for...
For literally producing the heavy water, which is the basic component that you need for an atomic weapon, it was only by chance that Germany and the Reich and the Nazis didn't end up with an atomic weapon because of an action by a group of Norwegian soldiers that sabotaged this But
having said that, after the war, Klaus Schwab, who was only a little...
Boy, when there was the war, he was, I think, born in 1936.
So, I mean, he was relatively young during the Second World War.
His family went backwards and forwards from Germany and Switzerland, where the mother company of Hess's Weiss is, because Hess's Weiss is a company from Zurich that had this branch in Germany.
Now, in the branch in Germany, though, his father also led people from the concentration camps to work for them.
And forced him into labor, working for his father's company.
I mean, it was his father, of course, not him.
We can't blame Klaus Schwab because at that time, like I said, he was too young.
However, after the war, he started to work in the same company.
In the 60s, he helped both Israel and then also South Africa, acquiring the technology to develop nuclear weapons and nuclear technology because...
He was very much still with his family at the center of the nuclear business.
And that's where he met, really.
In a way, maybe that's what brought him to connect so much with Henry Kissinger, who Henry Kissinger became his mentor later on.
Then in 1969, he basically terminated his work with Escherweiss.
The company that saw his father, his grandfather, his great-grandfather working in.
So a company that really had a long line of his family members working for.
And it wasn't even his own company.
It wasn't the family.
The Schwab family didn't own this company.
But they had an important role.
And definitely this role, especially when it came to...
The atomic nuclear field probably led them to have a lot of influence.
And Eric Kissinger, who was one of the fathers of the nuclear deterrence after the Second World War, is a guy who still nowadays is a very important figure.
In the last 24 hours, there is a lot of talk, for example, of Eric Kissinger because he said...
Quite rightly so.
I mean, just give Russia some parts of Ukraine because this war is never going to end up otherwise.
I mean, if you think that you're going to go back to the pre-war era with Donbass and Crimea, it's impossible to think that these parts of Ukraine will be given back to Ukraine.
Crimea was actually, for example, people don't know, but Crimea was actually given to Ukraine by the Soviet Union.
It wasn't Ukrainian territory.
It was actually during the Soviet Union, because the Ukrainian establishment was very influential and had very important members of the Russian Communist Party and stuff, that in the end they decided to put Crimea under the sphere of influence of the Ukrainian state, which was part of the Soviet Union, of the states that, of course, followed the communist ideology.
To now say that Crimea was historically part of Ukraine, that's not really true.
No, it's not correct.
We can maybe say that parts of Donbass are more probably...
But even the whole idea of Ukraine itself, it's an idea that was artificially constructed by a series of secret societies, often aided and abated by the Germans.
who had interest in wanting to construct the Germans, the Prussians back then also, who wanted to construct this national identity to then confront Russia.
You see, to actually create a Russian identity, I mean, that was more easy because they were part of the Russian Empire, but to create instead an identity that was separated took a lot more effort.
More work.
And people, for example, like Stephen Bandera, who is regarded as the father of the nation, this Nazi, because he became a member of the Nazi Party.
He was eventually killed by the KGB.
And Stephen Bandera is definitely regarded as one of those father figures for all these neo-Nazis in Ukraine, who, in fact...
Paraded back in the days from 2014 onwards with these torches, these images of Stephen Bandera, of Nazi imagery.
The problem here is that unfortunately the Jewish community turned the other way.
They shouldn't have.
The rabbi of Kiev should have never turned the other way.
I mean, this is a terrible thing that happened.
And ultimately, they're suffering themselves the consequences because there is a big Jewish community and a lot of them are suffering and they had to free the country.
But we have to also understand where Sabbatian Frankism was born because we speak of Sabbatian Frankism, people don't really know what it means.
So in a nutshell, you can also go and read all about it here in my book and have an understanding.
Describe it, I would say, is the result of the Sabbatai Zevi, who was this guy who thought he was the Messiah.
He became very popular in Turkey, but then had to publicly endorse Islam and created basically a crypto-Jewish movement that goes on to this day, the Domne.
And after that, after almost 100 years, not quite, there was his successor.
A guy called Jagov Frank in Poland who thought he was the reincarnation of Sabbatai Zevi.
You have to understand that in the Jewish tradition, Orthodox Jewish tradition, there is the belief in reincarnation.
And Sabbatai Zevi broke, though, with the tradition, though, of...
I mean, the classic Judaism was for Sabbatei Zebi, not something he wanted to follow.
He wanted to follow something more perverted, more twisted.
He thought that by creating a series of black magical rituals, rituals of sexual magic made out of incest, adultery and whatnot, They will get closer to the Messianic era.
Jacob Frank himself did the same later on, and he was awarded even an aristocratic title because he brought to the Catholic Church 20,000 Jewish converts.
Those Jewish converts, of course, in secret will stay Sabbatean.
But publicly, they will become loyal Catholic subjects of their monarchs, who were, of course, Catholic.
Now, in that period, Jacob Frank extended his influence from Poland to Ukraine.
So, in Ukraine, also between Poland and Ukraine, we have a very big Sabbatean-Frankist movement.
And that's why we have people like Zelensky.
Yes, he's Jewish.
What kind of Jewish?
I mean, even Hitler was Jewish, but what kind of Jewish?
I mean, that is also an understanding that very few people have.
And very, very few people have.
Sorry to interrupt.
Yes, very few people have.
I'm trying to...
It feels almost like you're reading to me one of your books.
I'm trying to listen and to understand everything that you're saying, and I just, I mean...
Somebody in the comments, we have comments coming through multiple streams, and Adan actually in the comments said, in Alex Jones' voice, Leo, you're on fire.
Where do you see all of this going?
which is a question that we did want to ask is, where do you see this going with Ukraine and Russia?
It's not going to end up very well if we keep on thinking that this is not Russia's war, but it's Vladimir Putin's war, first of all.
Because the problem with the West is to say, this is Vladimir Putin's war, this is Vladimir Putin's war.
No, it's not Vladimir Putin's war.
These are the Russian people who have always fought in a different way, who have never fully embraced the Western...
So-called values.
I don't know what kind of values we have nowadays because we don't really have any more values.
If we have to be honest, we don't really have them.
In any case, we do this big mistake.
And over and over again, we see it in the newspapers, in the thing.
Oh, yes, but remember, this is not...
The Russian people are good people and Vladimir Putin is the guy who has hijacked the power of the nation.
It doesn't work that way.
If you don't realize that the Russian people are people who back...
90% of the Russian folks back Vladimir Putin.
90% of the Russian folks don't want to be subject...
To the imperialism of Netflix, of McDonald's, of all this BS, because it's bullshit.
What we are proposing to them is essentially garbage.
I mean, the people you saw marching in the streets for the first few weeks in Russia were the people who work for the Western companies, so they will lose their job, of course.
And all the people who follow...
The most libtarded, woke values even in Russia, but there were not many.
There were not many.
So in the end, in the end, we have now a West in which we have a lot of propaganda.
Oh yes, Putin has cancer, he's sick, he has Parkinson.
Jeez, man, the guy is like dead.
If you read the newspaper, the guy is already, he's a walking corpse.
I see only one walking corpse in front of me every day.
And it's not called Vladimir Putin who...
Oh, Vladimir Putin has put a blanket over his...
A blanket.
Guys, in Russia this time of the year, it's freezing cold, a blanket.
You want 10 blankets for how cold it is over there.
Oh, he's sick.
He has put a blanket over his feet.
I see instead the corpse in the White House and nobody's saying this guy's a corpse because he's literally a corpse.
So they say, ah, Xi Jinping maybe is dying too.
Oh, wow.
So in a matter of a couple of weeks, we have Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping who are both dying.
Well, it, of course, goes in line with George Soros, because George Soros, you see, like I explained in this book, George Soros made a very important announcement at the end of January in one of his rare appearances, in which he himself said, I want to really tell you that we are in front of a big decision here.
Either we go towards the autocracy or the so-called his own version of democracy, which I don't really...
I don't know what it is.
But in any case, he started to criticize heavily Xi Jinping, saying the Chinese should overthrow him.
I mean, the Chinese should overthrow him.
Who is he?
The head of the Communist Party?
Then he said the same thing when it came down to Russia, it started to become highly critical.
But in the end, the thing is that both the Russian people and the Chinese people A different idea of reality and of how they want to accomplish the wealth of their own people.
Now, I don't agree with what the Chinese are putting through and are promoting worldwide with their Green Belt initiative and all the rest.
I think that we have a real problem there.
When it comes to Russia, of course...
They have experimented communism.
They know the limits of communism.
They told me in my face, they said, Leo, we experimented it.
It doesn't work for us.
So we are experimenting something new.
When I heard about that, I was very interested to know what was this something new.
So that's when they described me, managed democracy, this new ideology that...
Originally surfaced apparently in Japan, somebody, I don't know.
But then later on resurfaced in Russia with Surkov.
And Surkov became one of the main, Vladislav Surkov became one of the main people behind Putin.
Very much a man of mystery because since last month we don't know if he's been arrested, if he's not been arrested.
He was, though, the victim of the Surkov leaks.
In 2016, a group of Ukrainian hackers hacked his mails and saw that he was the one who was actually controlling and planning the whole Ukrainian And so
Surkov has a very important role.
When in the last couple of months both There was this confrontation between Russian and Ukrainian Freemasonry.
Ukrainian Freemasonry accused the Russians of Freemasonry of saying that the real Grand Master wasn't Bogdanov, who is the official Grand Master of the Russian Freemasons, but rather Vladislav Surkov.
So Vladislav Surkov is a person that has Very important relationships with Abskazia, South Ossetia, Ukraine.
He was removed from his duty by presidential order in February 2020, but then always kind of lurked behind the scenes, almost like he was made invisible.
But Surkov is the key figure with much power and influence.
I mean, he created this concept of sovereign democracy.
He was very important also with the...
With the political party that they created around Vladimir Putin, if we had to describe what is this sovereign democracy or managed democracy, it's not your traditional type of democracy, definitely.
It's kind of like maybe using the statics of democracy, but it's not the same thing.
Because I was clearly said...
That in Russia, people didn't like democracy.
They simply didn't like it.
The people like, instead, this different kind of democracy in which you had an assertive, a glorification, if we want, of the populist values and the steady destruction of the private But even the public institutions of some kind depart from the principles of law, let's say, and of free market.
It was a different kind of...
It's basically the concept is relating to a government that retains a certain form of rule and a political regime and at the same time it's not.
Like in the West, something that you can put into discussion every four years with an election.
That changes every few years with an election.
This kind of government has given the possibility for Putin to carry on for decades in power.
So I've always tried to To make the people understand that don't maybe know very well Russia, that Russia is in itself a country that doesn't have the same values.
And they are happy with the values that we might reject in our society.
We might dislike those values, but they like them.
So everybody's free to know how they want.
Just like other countries.
This is a planet in which people should decide their own form of government.
We decided in this part of the world in 1776.
They have decided with a series of revolutions, things that erupted in 1991, in December 1991, when they eventually ended up their whole Soviet Union phase, they realized a lot of the limitations of the problems that communism has given.
I don't think they will ever go back to certain things.
But at the same time, it made them realize the limits of capitalism, as well as also maybe creating something new.
While instead, in the 90s, we started to aggressively want to get them on our side by bringing them everything that we like.
Just thinking that they will embrace it, no?
If they embrace the McDonald's with a queue of kilometers that was kind of like historic.
Everybody talked about it in the world.
Wow, these people now are in our hands.
Maybe somebody here in America thought, wow, now we got them.
We didn't get anything.
We completely got it wrong.
Now McDonald's is going to sell all the restaurants and by this summer they're going to have a menu, probably with just simply different name, probably the same menu, some additions maybe.
That's it, but nothing changes.
They can get their movies, maybe not on Netflix, somewhere else.
They can live their life in a different way.
They can go back to what they were doing before.
They kind of started to receive the benefits of the West, because for a period, the West really thought they could get them.
But at the same time, they didn't really want to make them join NATO, because that was another thing.
Putin said, OK, let's join NATO.
He asked, he spoke with Berlusconi.
Berlusconi became this privileged interlocutor because Berlusconi, Silvio Berlusconi, is a very dear friend of Vladimir Putin.
So there was a direct connection there.
And it seemed for a period of time that with George W. Bush and with Vladimir Putin, there was absolutely no problem whatsoever.
But then the thing is that You have to understand, Vladimir Putin, when he came to power at the end of the 90s, he saw that parts of Russia and parts of the Soviet Union have literally been dismantled and given to NATO.
And that he couldn't accept.
He couldn't accept what happened in the Baltic region.
He couldn't accept the weakness of Russia after having been a KGB.
Officers of great importance.
I mean, he had control over the whole of East Germany at one point as a KGB, cultural attaché to the embassy, which in reality was the controller of the KGB.
And not only, at that time, the KGB worked with Stasi, which was the most fierce secret police in the world, because the Germans, when they become secret police, they become the worst.
You can imagine.
I mean, just like the Gestapo.
So it was like...
Vladimir Putin went back to Russia in the early 90s, started to work with the St. Petersburg Commune.
He became the deputy mayor.
He started to rise in the political arena, mostly for one reason, that in the middle of the 90s, KGB was out of control.
KGB was out of control.
People were shooting themselves in the street like it was the Wild West in Russia.
It was pretty dangerous back then.
And then suddenly, they needed somebody to fix this mess.
And the only one who could seemingly fix this mess was a former KGB agent, because he knew all his former colleagues were a bunch of crooks, but he also knew who they were, where he could find them, where he could go and kill them.
Tell them to behave.
And that was really what changed things in Russia.
When the mayor of St. Petersburg started to use this side of Vladimir Putin's talent, things went out of control.
At one point, a lot of money disappeared from St. Petersburg, a town, how do you say it?
There was a lot of economical problems back then.
But in any case, soon after, he started to work with Yeltsin in Moscow in 1996.
And from 1996, that was the period when I started to go very much regularly too.
To Russia.
And I saw his rise, really.
I mean, he really arrived within the Yeltsin group of influential people.
And he was placed also for a brief time.
He even directed the FSB, which was the successor to the KGB, knowing of his talents.
But then that was, you know, they gave him the FSB, but that was little stuff, you know.
For him.
He was aiming for much.
So Yeltsin was aiming and his family to not get whacked or eliminated at that point.
So he said he made a deal, his whole family with Putin, in exchange of the protection up until his death of him and his family, he will then leave, you know, they made a deal.
And so that's how between 1999...
1999 and 2000, he then raised to power.
He was then formally elected and became president.
The rest is history, alternating between being president and prime minister, then manipulating, of course, the Constitution.
But in reality, the thing is that all those former KGB agents became the leaders, including Surkov.
Surkov doesn't come out of nowhere.
Surkov was a guy that was...
Imagine, at one point, he stolen the statue of the founder of the KGB and put it in his own house.
I mean, the kind of guys that you had, you know.
But, I mean, in the 80s, he was working as a private businessman, officially, in the advertising of Kodorowsky businesses.
It was actually in the advertising that you could work that magic, which we call propaganda.
And it was really in that period that he made this career.
And then, of course, later on, he became with...
He was appointed, right in 1999, Surkov was appointed deputy chief of staff of Vladimir Putin.
So right at the start.
Like, he's kind of a great eminence, a great pope.
He's Rasputin, almost.
Now, people think always of Alexander Dugin, but they know much less about Surkov.
I repeat, he even decided not to return the statue of the KGB founder, Felix Dostoevsky.
He just said, "I'm gonna keep it." When there was the fall of the Soviet Union.
So this is the kind of people behind the scenes.
And when you say Kirill, the patriarch of Moscow, yeah, but he was also a KGB agent.
These are all former KGB agents from all of them.
Right.
Either former KGB agents or former GRU agent, which is military intelligence.
But they were all part of the same establishment, let's say.
To understand as much as you know is impossible.
You know, to understand that you read my books.
I mean, I make it really...
It might seem like I'm trying to...
To sell cars here.
No, no.
I feel like I'm out of class here.
I love it.
No, no, no.
It's important that people realize that all the work that I do for my books is so that people...
Can study them and then come out as smart as me and know as much as me.
Actually, my books give, and you can notice in this, but also in many other books of mine, the fact that I methodically provide all the citations for all of what I'm writing here.
So with those citations, that is like a treasure, because if you are a serious student of the New World Order and want to know more...
You can simply go on the citations and then you can further get into the mysteries and develop yourself further studies on the topic if you are smart enough.
I always encourage people to do that because, I mean, I'm only one person, what I can do on my own.
But I'm trying.
You do a great job.
You do a great job.
I would request one thing from you.
And that is, like on Amazon, an audio.
Are you able to do like an audio book, like where you were reading the book?
I would suggest something.
I mean, audio books are really expensive and unfortunately they're out of my league because you have to have...
A proper, you know, set up.
Unfortunately, since I moved here, I'm very short on resources and means to be doing that.
As you know, I had to flee Italy in 2019.
And I kind of like to flee because otherwise I will be probably arrested or killed.
So for me, it wasn't just a choice.
It was...
A matter of survival.
But I can suggest one thing.
There's a friend of mine who does this and says he finds himself very well with this solution.
You can.
You can actually get a Kindle and there is a software that you can adapt from your phone.
I don't know how it works because I never use it, but apparently it reads your Kindle.
So you can, instead of reading the book, you can listen to the book.
Well, I don't mind reading the book.
I don't mind reading it.
I just want to hear it in your voice.
Well, in my voice it's great, but you see here we're talking about 400 pages books.
I don't know.
It will probably take me like a lot of studio time.
We'll do this every week on Tuesday at the end of the show.
We'll call you and you can read a part of your book and we'll piece it together.
Well, like I said, the interesting thing about my books is also the citations and the sources that I use.
So I can read the book.
But then I would suggest that you go into a deep study of the book by really managing to...
And so at times this book is, of course, something that you can read.
At times I would suggest this book more as a manual that you can pick up every now and then if you want to...
And get deeper into specific topics.
Yes, I definitely...
Every now and then I will be able to maybe come...
Read a chapter.
And deliver you something, yes.
But today, I mean, we did more or less that because we have discussed a lot of the topics that, of course, are exposed in both Volume 7 and Volume...
And also in volume 6.66, which is another of my precious books, one of the books that people seem to prefer still to this day.
It's about the age of cyber safety and artificial intelligence and robotics.
And this book has apparently gained a lot of popularity because it's the first book that talks about a topic like...
Artificial intelligence, cyber system, but also possession through technological means, the origins of the black masses, where all this evil is coming from and how we can connect 2001 Space Odyssey with the film The Exorcist.
I leave it to the reader.
I don't like that.
There is actually a direct connection there.
It's not just...
Up in the air connection.
Because Arthur C. Clarke was a student of Pierre Teilhard de Carden, this great Jesuit.
He actually followed very much Pierre Teilhard de Carden.
And Pierre Teilhard de Carden is the guy who inspired a lot of these progressive elements within contemporary Jesuitism.
And it's one of the favorite...
One of the authors and figures of Pope Francis, Pierre Teilhard de Cardin, was the guy who inspired the priest in The Exorcist that comes and does The Exorcist.
So he was a multi-faith figure.
He was like a little bit Indiana Jones, like we see at the beginning of The Exorcist.
And then you have, though, also him as an exorcist, you have him as an anthropologist, as a guy of great culture, who created also the concept of no-sphere, which is the very early concept of a web world, in fact, wired, which is, of course, dedicated to technology, called Pierre Teilhard de Cardin and the no-sphere.
The father of the internet, the concept.
But then you have another figure, the Alpha and Omega concept that then brings us to the Omega, meaning the end, when the artificial intelligence is so powerful, so encompassing, that at that point becomes almost a god.
That is the Omega point that really, in a way, we see at times during the Space 2001, in Space 2001 Space Odyssey, because in 2001 we see this all 9000 computers, artificial intelligence, suddenly getting more and more angry with the astronaut, but then starting to become manipulative with the astronaut.
Who is on his way to Mars.
Eventually, they both seem to arrive to a point that is beyond the human comprehension.
Now there is that moment in which Kubrick really launches himself out of the ordinary because he was describing something that was really futuristic and he had done And people don't know that,
but in the original version of the film, there was supposed to be a 20-minute introduction with a Jesuit priest, a rabbi, and others, talking about also the origins of humanity that, as we know, he thought were extraterrestrial.
So there is definitely a very interesting work I said I never heard that at the beginning of the 20 minutes.
You can find the transcript of this part still on the internet.
You're giving me a lot of homework.
A lot of homework.
I love it.
Now realize that there is, of course, a lot of homework that they can all do by simply studying my books and keeping themselves with an open mind because we are in front of a very important moment for humanity.
Between here and 2030, we're going to assist to a revolutionary moment for humanity.
This is a revolution that will probably lead some of us to embrace the machine and transhumanism and abandon Homo sapiens and at that point become slaves of Cyber Satan.
That's all it is.
I have no future plans.
We're going to try to retain humanity.
I have no future plans to join the Metaverse, but drones, do you?
No, I actually want to know, how do we fight Cyber Satan?
I've noticed even just with little small things, like trying to go order some fast food that's not good for you, and then they can't even take your order anymore because the machine's not working or whatever, and they don't know how to do cash anymore.
This seems like it can escalate on a scale with AI moving into artificial general intelligence, where that is the intelligence where AI is as smart as all the humans on the planet.
Artificial super intelligence.
Basically, synthetically speaking, you're talking about the people becoming dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber and more dumb because the artificial intelligence will tell them, you have some important business to do in the toilet because you have some flautalance.
You have to go to the toilet right now.
It's going to be the artificial intelligence is going to follow your internal...
This is what Arari and those people...
Arari, the mentor of Klaus Schwab.
It's like the human control.
What are you going to eat?
No, you can eat this.
But it's going to be the artificial intelligence that's going to say, you are intolerant.
If you eat this, you're going to have a problem.
If you eat that, you're going to have...
Or maybe it's not sustainable.
Ah, you can't eat the steak.
It's not sustainable today.
You went over your allowance of steak this month.
Or God knows what.
So, I mean, you have definitely...
An artificial intelligence that will become more and more invasive.
We have someone in there.
Sorry.
We have someone in the comments, Thad, that says, I've read the first three of Leo's Confession series, but the most revealing of his work is the book Invisible Matters, or Masters, sorry.
Anyone who wants to understand the true nature of our existence in this dimension and the surrounding extra-dimensional entities that the elites have been...
Accessing this whole time will be absolutely validated in as I have in what they most likely feel as I did if you are even interested in such information.
Sorry if I butchered that.
But yeah, definitely have some fans here in the comments.
Yeah, Invisible Master is a very particular book.
I would definitely suggest people to read it.
Because in Italy I actually had published it originally with a different title.
It was part of the confession series.
Here they wanted to market it in a different way, so we made the book that was independent from the rest of the Confessions series.
But it is an important book to understand the invisible side that controls the secret societies, the people that, of course, are in control, have their own masters in the invisible world.
I have to be understood and it's not easy because you have to enter definitely a much more detailed understanding of the esoteric to really grasp them fully.
I tried in this book to make it easy for people to realize that there is a world behind the secret society that is also not from this world.
Extradimensional entities that interact with human beings since the beginning of time.
We have people like Moses who interacted with, of course, we know the Metatron, or we have Jesus who interacted about what they were interacting with.
Explaining, trying to make people explain the difference between the demons, the angelic realm, why they are in that way.
Definitely The Invisible Master is a great book.
Yeah, they seem like they're all great.
I would definitely, I started reading your newest book, but I'm going to need to backtrack and read some others.
But, you know, it's so much information and it really is, whenever I read it, I'm reading it in your voice for some reason.
Like I said, sooner or later, I might do the book, how do you say it, the reading book.
Audio version?
The audio version, but it's going to take a lot of work.
And probably I'm going to have to do it in a studio because if my wife listens to the content of the book again, she might kill me because, I mean, she already wrote.
I mean, she already collaborated with me in editing it and reading it to make it more accessible for my American readers.
And she has two books also, right?
Yeah, she has two books as well, which is Confessions of an Illuminati Princess, Volume 1 and 2. Yes, you know, they are definitely very interesting books because they give a female perspective to all of my...
Adventures, if you want to call them this way.
And what has happened to us back in Italy, how close we went at times to really risk our own lives, because there were moments in which we definitely risk our own lives.
But we made it out of Italy.
And in fact, Christy wrote the first book while she was still in Italy, and the second one here in America.
And details are...
First encounter with the United States of America, how I ended up here in Palm Springs, other places, and why we decided to stay here.
Yes, I was very excited to see this, to see these books.
I had no idea until I started really looking, and so I plan to read these books too, so like I said, I have plenty of homework to do.
I did want to ask you...
Kind of off-subject, a little bit about your DJing.
I know that Alex also had some questions about that part of your life.
Please, drones.
Drone us.
I used to be a DJ too.
With vinyl or with CDs?
Vinyl.
That's all we had back then.
And then obviously, well, I did CDs for like a day.
And I was like, this is not for me.
Went back to vinyl and then waited for Ableton Live.
Do you still DJ?
If I still DJ, not here in the United States.
Since I moved here, I don't have my vinyls with me.
I don't even have the space.
For all my records, I left in Europe something like 20,000 vinyls.
So it's very difficult.
But I mean, maybe one day, who knows, if I have a bigger place here or if I have maybe people interested.
It's been very difficult since I moved here.
We had the pandemic and everything else, I guess, that people don't really...
I go out in the same way and I never wanted to either get vaccinated or even get tested.
Right.
Do you feel like eventually...
Not especially being so much in the public with all these rules and regulations.
Yes.
Do you feel eventually you'll get to go home?
No, I will never be able to.
No?
No, I will never be able to go home.
I will be able to become American hopefully by next year.
Maybe one day.
Who knows?
Maybe if Trump is back in the White House and I feel comfortable enough with the American ambassador in Italy, I might be able to go and visit.
But my new home is definitely the United States of America.
I don't want to be killed or arrested in Europe.
Yes.
And do you think that you're in a place that you would consider safe?
Like from your book, you're talking about leaving the city and doing these things.
Do you feel that...
You're still going to have to make another move to be in a place that's more safe?
No.
Basically, I'm facing the desert here.
I mean, I'm facing empty spaces, long.
I'm not in a city.
If I was in San Francisco or in LA, well, then I would be really worried.
I'm in a place where basically in the matter of five minutes I'm in the middle of nowhere and I can get to a safe location of sorts.
I have friends that with me have organized different kinds of plans and so we are organized a little bit.
We will make our plans better and better in case we see that the social collapse becomes inevitable.
But we have to be ready for it.
I agree.
The great thing about being in America is that you can access weapons, even in California.
Yes, there is, of course, a series of restrictions compared to other states, but still.
You are not in Europe.
In Europe, you cannot and you are not allowed to have weapons.
And that means really being in the hands of a bunch of crooks or in the hands of your state, which is a bunch of crooks in the case of Europe because they're all corrupted.
I mean, Europe nowadays is like the Fourth Reich.
So, I mean, it's like seeing a Nazification of the whole place.
I mean...
What Putin is rightly saying is that, yes, Ukrainian soil is Nazified, but the rest of Europe is also Nazified.
So if he wanted to be really sincere about it, he should say, yes, the whole of Europe is Nazified, because the way they operate and the way they have acted during the pandemic has proven over and over again that there is No possibility for the Europeans to open their mouth.
I mean, in Italy, I was getting my door smashed only for what I was writing on Facebook or I would get the police to arrive threatening me only for what I was writing or saying on Facebook.
I hope it never becomes like this here.
I hope that we never have...
The Ministry of Truth never comes really to fruition.
Fortunately, it seems like there is a lot of opposition here in the United States, so I'm pretty glad that we are still in a country where I'm able to talk freely.
Yes, but there are also some other things you have to look out for.
I know today, and we're talking about, you know, I'm talking about guns a little bit, because...
Earlier today, there was a mass shooting.
Sure, they will come after you, they will create another shooting.
Well, there was a shooting today.
Sure, but that is obvious that mass shootings will create the possibility for these people to rediscuss what is one of the basis of our Constitution here in the United States.
But unfortunately, we know that until the Democrats are in power, they want to dismantle this Constitution.
They want to sabotage this Constitution.
So I hope that the Republicans win by a landslide at the mid-term, and I hope that we can replace this corpse with somebody a little bit more alive in 2024.
Somebody that can dance good like Trump.
Yeah, I can dance good like Trump.
And at that point, I might be able also to vote by 2024 because I might be already fully American by then.
And so I'm really glad at that point to give my vote.
A new person in the White House who is definitely not from the Democratic, Democratic Party.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Somebody that hasn't been risen from the grave.
Did you have something, Jones?
Closing with the DJing, I definitely, if we had the right party, the right situation, one day I would love to play music.
I have a situation for you.
I'm getting married in Las Vegas in December.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
But like I said, I will maybe think about music is something that really is of great importance for the human being.
But we also have to understand that music has been used to manipulate and to brainwash people, especially in the last few decades.
So that's why I'm dedicating my Next book, which is volume 8 of my confessions to this topic.
I've actually published in 2015 a book in Italy called Illuminati and the Music of Hollywood.
This book is being rewrote, rewritten, kind of like updated and rewritten because, of course, a lot of things have happened since then.
And hopefully this summer or at the end of this summer I will be able to publish this volume 8, which will also give my own idea.
I can give you a spoiler of it.
Yes.
Definitely, after you read it, you will never be able to either listen or view, in the case of cinema, because we also discussed cinema, not only music, your heroes, your musical heroes in the same way, because there is a lot behind the scenes that has been going on.
There has been a weaponization and a militarization of music, unfortunately.
I agree.
I'm sorry I interrupted you, Jones.
What were you going to say?
I just wanted to see what your thoughts are about Elon Musk and his wanting to get Twitter for freedom of speech.
Elon Musk is a guy who seems very...
Ambiguous.
One day he's experimenting with monkey computer interface with a monkey doing experiments that are really scary.
And of course with plans to conquer the world with satellites and brain computer interface that is not really something that makes me like the guy.
Wanting to acquire Twitter to re-establish the freedom of speech, well, that would be a great thing.
I mean, of course.
But is it being sincere?
Because it seems to me that they are not really giving up also these demoncrats with their platform because that's their favorite platform.
So it's almost part of the brainwashing system that's around us.
So are they going to give up on one of their tools?
It's not easy.
So the answer is Elon remains an ambiguous character, though he might want to simply challenge the rest of humanity because when you have so much money, you can challenge everybody.
You can be really the emperor of Mars if that's what he wants.
Thank you.
I agree.
I agree.
He can be.
Will he be?
I don't know.
Will he buy Twitter?
I don't know.
I don't know that he'll buy Twitter.
I don't know, but the thing is that Twitter, like most social networks these days, have policies that, of course, restrict people like me.
I had, since October 2020, 15 channels closed on YouTube.
I was signed out of Twitter.
Still in existence.
I can never sign back in.
I don't understand what happened.
I even managed to sign back in and I found myself opening a new account instead of getting back to the old one.
So they kind of like isolated that account.
They left it there with my last post dedicated to Donald J. Trump during the elections.
And that was it.
At least they did that.
You know, they deleted a Don's Twitter and gave him nothing.
I don't know if it's more...
I don't know if it's more annoying to have it deleted or to be locked out of it and see it there.
Yeah, well, whenever they delete it, they give you a date that they're going to delete it.
So every day you can look at it until that date and then it's gone.
So probably that would be worse, I would imagine.
I don't know.
I haven't been deleted off of Twitter yet.
Are you on Truth Social?
No, I don't have time, really.
For all these social networks, to tell you the truth, I have somebody who takes care of my Telegram.
I take care of my Facebook.
That's about it.
I have other social networks which I'm present on.
Gab, I use at times, I must say.
It works out quite okay for me, but it's like...
You have to have really a team of people working for you if you have to be present on all these social networks.
Plus, you know, I was kicked out of Instagram only because I made a photo with Alex Jones in his studio.
They kicked me out the day after and I was like kicked out and suddenly I have a bunch of Nigerian scammers who are on Instagram pretending to be me and I can't seem to do anything about it.
Yeah, well...
Alex Jones is a bad man, so...
No, no, but apart from Alex, they are the people who are really bad.
No, yes, I agree.
Instagram could at least say, okay, you are associating with Alex Jones.
You are no longer working on this platform.
That's it.
Coherently, you should take me out of your platform.
Instead, you are basically...
Getting people to steal my pictures on Facebook, put them on Instagram, pretend to be me, selling fake diplomas of Illuminati for $2,000 diploma.
Now I had people who contacted me and said, I thought, you know, then they realized, of course, it wasn't me.
It was a bunch of Nigerian scammers and they were like, I'm really sorry they scammed me.
I'm saying, I'm sorry for you.
What can I do?
I mean, you were so gallible to give money for a diploma of the Illuminati.
I mean, people are insane.
People think that you can become an Illuminati simply going on the internet and finding a website.
Good luck with that.
It's completely contrary to everything that an order like that really represents.
I mean, any powerful institution of that kind will not even communicate through the internet.
When I used to have lodges and stuff, most of the communication was done in person.
It was never done through remote means virtually because there was always the possibility of being intercepted.
And so it makes sense that you just stay out of any...
Web presence if you are a real secret society.
I mean, if you're a secret, you shouldn't be on the web.
Well, yeah.
Web is not a secret thing.
Yeah, I know.
But, you know, and that's really how they got so much traction, right?
The secret societies by leaking a little bit of information so that then it spreads.
At least that's what I read a little bit of whenever I was kind of looking into it, and the Illuminati and everything like that, and some of the old things of the Illuminati, like the underground bunker at the Denver airport or something, and how they have it.
Oh yeah, well, I arrived in Denver when I arrived in 2019, in May, 2019, I arrived in Denver and suddenly, I saw these images.
The horse?
No, no, well, actually, they were making, even mocking it in a way, because they were saying Illuminati here or there.
They had the symbols and stuff.
They were reconstructing parts of the airport, and they had all their symbols displayed there, even the Masonic symbols, but also Illuminati.
I mean, it was just like...
It became part of the folklore of the airport nowadays.
Yes, they embraced it.
They embraced it.
But they have the Freemason.
Isn't that the Freemason sign on the time capsule thing that's in there?
No, no, no.
I mean, there is symbols.
I mean, like I said, they are present there.
They have definitely launched some very important messages through the artwork in Denver Airport.
But now they have arrived to such popularity that they are even capable of being even more in your face.
More in your face, yeah.
They have a gargoyle that talks to you there, I saw.
They make jokes with these images and saying, you know...
Lizard people.
So I'm pretty sure that there is something there because I know that in Denver...
And in the surrounding areas, I met some really important occultists back in the days.
So I know that there is a lot of Illuminati presence, secret societies of the Illuminati network, which is a little bit more complex.
And you will find the description, of course, in my books.
But definitely there is a big Masonic also reality in Colorado, as well as other things like underground bases and so on.
So these things exist.
People, of course, then at times get drawn into the aesthetics of it.
But they should study the substance rather than the aesthetics.
Right.
And like the cover of this new book that you have, you kind of have the main pieces here of the...
You know, you have the...
Oops.
Yes.
Oh.
I was trying to pull it up.
Yeah, this is very symbolic because this book, the cover was made by a guy who is an expert in symbolism.
So in Italy, together with me, we worked out on this.
He's an art master.
He has, of course, a history as somebody who has been working very much.
With the symbols all his life.
And I understood that it's important for me to work my books together with somebody who can bring out the aesthetic or symbolic visualization of it, of its content on the cover.
So I told them what the book was about.
We discussed it.
And then we discussed what kind of symbols they could be featured.
And in the end, he came up with this cover, which really contains what this book is all about.
It's about the Ariman symbol that you find here.
It's about the symbol that, of course, is used also by the WHO to aid and obey the rise of cyber-Satan.
This is also the word.
It's a triangle, which is also, of course, a symbol that's always used by the Illuminati.
Behind the scenes here, there is a dragon, which represents the dragon of the apocalypse, but also China.
And then here you have, down here, the...
Yeah, that's the most interesting...
Part, I thought.
Yes, the image of Ariman that was put outside of the United Nations until the beginning of this year.
So we have very much a general idea of the book in symbolism.
And then when you go, of course, in the back of the book, you find myself with on top coronavirus that is floating over my head.
Don't get it, don't get it.
But then you have, of course, all this that represents, of course, the artificial intelligence and the rise of cyber-Satan, which is, of course...
the focus of my work and also my past work, the volume 6.66.
But you can read volume seven without reading volume 666 of any of the books that preceded it, because it's a book that in itself contains self-explanatory and you don't need to Yeah, I noticed that when I was reading.
Reading a couple, I was noticing that you don't...
It's not...
Just because it's listed volume 6, volume 7, you know, it's not...
I try to make them like books that you can also read them on your own, you know.
But definitely the trilogy, volume 1, 2, and 3, they are kind of connected.
So that one you need to...
And then, of course, 4, 5, 6 and all that, you will understand much more of the following volume if you have already read the volume preceding it.
But it's not essential.
I love it.
And then you'll be coming out.
I hope I gave you all this explanation because now I'm going to have to unfortunately go because for me it's getting a little bit late here.
But it was definitely a pleasure to be on your show.
Yes, we loved it.
It's a pleasure to know that you appreciate especially the research that has been made in these books that took years of work.
But it's not only, as you know, the research of an investigative journalist, but it's also an experience of a human being that has...
Joined these groups sometimes because some of the groups I talk about I was part of or I had some experiences with and so it's also a personal experience.
So there is always a little bit of a biographical note inserted along with the information that I'm covering.
Right.
And so you guys can buy Leo Zagami's book on Amazon here at the website, and we'll share that on our Telegram as well.
And then you're saying that also in the future, hopefully by summer, you'll be coming out with Volume 8, which integrates kind of the music and movie kind of industry.
I think realistically, because it's such an important work, and I really want to...
Make it into a good book for all of you.
I will tend to say that maybe by the end of the summer, September, to be more realistic, I will have it done.
Because also, it's the first time that I'm going to bring a book out in both the English and the Italian language at the same time.
So I want to bring this book out in the new edition for the Italians that already were able to read the past edition in 2015 and that they demonstrated a lot of interest towards it.
And then for the new audience that of course has not read it, which is maybe drawn also to the fact that this book will talk about topics that the other books haven't talked about.
When you talk about music, cinema, entertainment industry, it's a lot to cover, but it's not essentially something that I might have discussed in any of my previous volumes because it's definitely something that's been part of my life because I was a regular producer myself, a DJ and all that.
But it's also something that I want to analyze in a different light for all of you to make you understand how.
It's being used against you and how you need to filter it through a new perspective so it doesn't hurt you in any way.
I mean, the music is cool.
Reject the negative parts and embrace the good ones if they are.
Thank you so much for having me on.
Thank you so much.
You guys can find Leo Zagami at leozagami.com.
He's also on Facebook.
And we look forward to having you on again.
If you ever come to Texas, we'd love to have you in studio.
And the offer is on the table for you to DJ that wedding in December, of course.
Did you want to say bye?
In Las Vegas.
Okay, okay, okay.
With Adam, you're going to be having this wedding.
Okay, okay.
I'll send you the invite.
Interesting event, definitely.
All the best, guys.
You have to tell me what kind of music you like, so maybe I can understand if I'm useful or not for it, because I'm a bit particular with my music.
We'll connect.
We'll definitely get connected.
Thank you, Leo.
God bless you.
Bye, Drone!
Bye drones!
That was a special drones goodbye.
That was really great.
I love Leo.
Thank you guys for attending the Leo Zagami class here on the Liberty Broadcast.
That was great.
I felt like I learned so much and I have so much homework.
How do you feel?
That was great.
Yeah.
It was so good.
It's really crazy.
The amount of information that Leo has in that big old brain of his.
You heard it, Adon.
I tried to book him to be the DJ for the wedding.
Is that the kind of music he's doing?
It's probably something electronic.
We did not have Leo do the Illuminati weather because...
I just couldn't take away from all of the information that he was giving into something that playful.
I don't know.
It just didn't feel right.
But not to worry because guess who's doing Illuminati weather today?
You are!
You are!
We can't go without the Illuminati weather.
And the Illuminati weather is brought to you by the wonderful and always, always on top of it, Alex Trones.
And here's the Illuminati weather.
Thank you for tuning in.
This is the Illuminati broadcast and Illuminati weather segment.
It is going to start to get hot.
And it's going to get really hot.
Things are going to start to melt.
You're going to start to see buildings catch on fire.
You're going to start to see cars combust.
Planes are going to fall out of the sky.
It's just going to get bad, y 'all.
So be sure to get some fans going.
You know, get some ACs on.
I hear that the Teslas aren't going to be able to charge during the day or whatever because they're worried about all the electricity and stuff.
So, no need to worry.
You can just get some ice and lay in it.
You know, because that's how you cool off sometimes, right?
You know, like, it's 106 degrees outside.
Just lay in some ice, you know?
That's what I recommend.
And thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Broadcast Illuminati Weather Report.
back to you, Rachel.
Oh, that was so good.
I have no idea.
That was so good.
That's right.
Yes, you do.
You have really mastered the Illuminati weather with the exception of it's going to be pouring crazy tonight.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, it's great.
No, everything you said was great.
It says rain's coming.
Rain is, it's not here.
So you guys, even though the rain is coming in Texas, you still should lay in a bed of ice.
Yes, lay in ice.
If it rains, you gotta lay in ice.
It doesn't matter if the rain's coming.
It doesn't drop the temp at all.
We're still 100 degrees over here.
Yep, so that was really great.
We are, I think we're gonna wrap.
I think we're gonna wrap.
Are you ready?
Are you ready to rap?
Are we rapping?
We're gonna do a rap.
I don't even know what to rap about.
What should we rap about?
I'm just kidding.
We're rapping the show.
We're rapping the show.
Ah, yeah.
Bill Gates got caught trying to take down a little musk.
What's up?
I got nothing.
I got nothing.
Did y 'all know that?
What was it?
Bill Gates is getting caught trying to take down Elon Musk.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He paid for, like, a whole thing of people to go after Musk.
Yeah.
We'll see what happens with that.
Interesting.
I had no idea.
You know, like, that was, what, a Bipart exclusive or whatever?
Oh, yeah, they always tell the truth.
No, no, they probably are telling the truth, I'm sure, Bill Gates.
I mean, you know, whatever.
That's how it goes.
So there was plenty of news.
Today to cover, but I think I need to get out of here.
I think you need to get out of here.
Yeah, let's go.
I think we're going to have a no guests next week, guys.
So I think...
Normal show?
Normal show.
Tons of news coming at you.
Unless I book somebody special, and then you'll see on Tuesday who that is.
So that's what I got.
What do you got, drones?
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