Katie Miller Podcast - Deputy AG Todd Blanche on Jeffrey Epstein: His Suspicious Death, No Charges & The Island | KMP Ep. 31
Aired: 2026-03-17
Duration: 55:21


=== Are the Files a Cover-Up (05:46) ===

[00:00:09]  Hi everyone and welcome to this week's episode of the Katie Miller Podcast.
[00:00:13]  We're so excited to be in Washington, D.C. today, joined by the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.
[00:00:18]  Hi, how are you?
[00:00:19]  I'm so excited.
[00:00:20]  You may be wondering what I'm doing sitting here with the Deputy Attorney General.
[00:00:24]  Well, as I've asked in every single episode, what's your favorite conspiracy theory?
[00:00:29]  My favorite conspiracy theories all involve Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:00:33]  So for the first time, I think in a long time, Todd Blanch has graciously agreed to go over every single Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theory with us.
[00:00:42]  It's exciting.
[00:00:44]  The moms are desperate to know because they want to be protector of kids and they kind of feel like you've failed them thus far.
[00:00:50]  Do you think you failed the kids?
[00:00:52]  I mean, no, not in any way, shape, or form.
[00:00:55]  I think the Attorney General, myself, the director of the FBI, FBI agents everywhere, prosecutors everywhere, we have done more to protect children and are most vulnerable than any administration in recent history.
[00:01:10]  And so when I hear this narrative that we are letting down victims or that we are failing victims, I want to make sure people know that every day we fight for victims.
[00:01:24]  And the FBI and HSI prosecuted, charged and prosecuted more violent offenders and sexual offenders last year than have been prosecuted in the previous four years combined.
[00:01:37]  And so that's our track record of protecting victims is that.
[00:01:44]  There's public reports that there's over 300 victims.
[00:01:46]  225 people have filed with Jeffrey Epstein's estate.
[00:01:51]  There's another 59 who have settled overwhelmingly.
[00:01:54]  They're minors between 14 to 17.
[00:01:57]  Why has no one been prosecuted except for Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell?
[00:02:02]  Well, so that's a great question.
[00:02:03]  And as you know, and as everybody knows, Epstein was a disgusting individual who was investigated by multiple jurisdictions, the sheriffs in Palm Beach, the U.S. Attorney in Florida, the U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York.
[00:02:21]  During those investigations, as the Epstein files have shown, law enforcement spoke with over 100 victims.
[00:02:29]  So it's not as if victims were not interviewed or spoken with during those investigations.
[00:02:37]  Epstein was indicted, obviously, twice, and then he died, and so he was never ultimately brought to justice in the SDMY.
[00:02:48]  But why there's not more prosecutions is a reflection of a lot of factors that happened along the way.
[00:02:56]  A lot of, look, FBI investigated him twice.
[00:02:59]  The New York State Police was heavily involved in that investigation.
[00:03:03]  Do you think the investigators covered it up?
[00:03:05]  Given how many victims there are, surely, I mean, there should be more prosecutions and more charges than there are.
[00:03:11]  Well, look, the Epstein files are available for everybody to see.
[00:03:14]  So it's not, so do I think there was a cover-up?
[00:03:17]  No, I don't, but it's not just up to me.
[00:03:19]  Everybody that's watching this, everybody that, the Epstein, the Epstein Transparency Act has now allowed us to release the entire Epstein files.
[00:03:29]  There's still 3 million held back, though.
[00:03:31]  Not all of them are public.
[00:03:32]  No, they're all public.
[00:03:33]  No, so look, that's not true.
[00:03:35]  So there's a narrative that there's 3 million pages that are being held back.
[00:03:41]  They have nothing to do with Epstein.
[00:03:43]  So what we did to make sure we didn't leave a single page out is we overcollected.
[00:03:48]  So for example, if it was you and we were doing the same thing on you, we would do a search of our databases of the name Miller.
[00:03:56]  And so part of that collection would be millers that have nothing to do with Katie Miller.
[00:04:01]  And so that's not allowed to be produced under the Act.
[00:04:04]  So by way of example, there was a prosecution in Florida involving an individual named Epstein at the same time as Jeffrey Epstein's investigation.
[00:04:11]  He was a bank robber.
[00:04:12]  And so we collected all these materials on that Epstein, which again, were not responsive at all to the Act.
[00:04:20]  So every single page in the entire Department of Justice and FBI that has anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein has been produced unless there was a legal reason to redact it, which is attorney-client privilege or something like that.
[00:04:36]  Multiple members of Congress, though, had said they'd gone to DOJ, reviewed additional case files, and then gone to the House floor.
[00:04:42]  What files were they reviewing then if there was nothing held back?
[00:04:45]  So they're not reviewing any of those 3 million.
[00:04:48]  What they're reviewing is because we wanted to be as transparent as possible, we allowed members of Congress to review anything that was redacted.
[00:04:57]  So if you don't like our redactions, if you think we're covering something up, if you think there's a victim, sorry, if you think that there's an individual that committed a crime and that we were trying to cover it up, which we weren't and we're not, you can come in and look at those.
[00:05:12]  So they're not seeing anything the American public doesn't get to see as well, except for what we've redacted, which again, very limited to victim names and any applicable privilege.
[00:05:25]  So attorney-client privilege would still be redacted.
[00:05:27]  But again, that's not a cover-up.
[00:05:29]  That's not keeping the names of some horrible individual from the American public.
[00:05:36]  It's just, so that's what the Congress, the Congressmen and women that are on the floor talking about what they've seen.
[00:05:43]  They're seeing the unredacted versions of what the American people have been seeing.
[00:05:47]  It's been widely reported that Jeffrey Epstein kind of used a ladder type to get to blackmail on his so-called friends, right?

=== Beyond the Redacted Photos (05:12) ===

[00:05:55]  First it would be a massage, then it would be a younger girl, and so on and so forth.
[00:06:00]  And there's tons and tons of video.
[00:06:03]  Where's the videos then?
[00:06:05]  So, look, I don't know, and neither do you, and frankly, I don't know anybody that does, what Epstein did or didn't do beyond what the evidence is that we have in our files, which has now all been released.
[00:06:19]  So the videos that you're talking about, we released hundreds and hundreds of videos, thousands of videos.
[00:06:25]  I do not believe, as a matter of fact, I know that the FBI did not collect any videos of Mr. Epstein or others participating in sex acts.
[00:06:37]  Now, does that mean that he didn't do it?
[00:06:39]  No.
[00:06:39]  I don't know whether he did or not.
[00:06:41]  It just means that when the FBI searched his townhouse in New York City in 2019, 2018, when they searched, they went to his island, when Florida did a search back in 2008, they did not collect, they didn't seize any evidence of blackmail of individuals.
[00:06:59]  It doesn't mean it didn't happen, just means we don't have it.
[00:07:02]  Is there evidence that Reid Hoffman went to the island?
[00:07:05]  Yes, I believe so, yes.
[00:07:07]  I believe he's admitted that he went to the island.
[00:07:10]  Is there evidence that Bill Clinton has gone to the island?
[00:07:13]  I'm not aware of that.
[00:07:14]  Is there evidence that Bill Gates has gone to the island?
[00:07:19]  I don't know that there's evidence that Gates went to the island.
[00:07:23]  Or the ranch.
[00:07:24]  Or the ranch.
[00:07:25]  But look, there are records of that in the files.
[00:07:28]  And so if the FBI has evidence of Bill Gates or Reid Hoffman going to the ranch or the island, it's available to the American people now.
[00:07:38]  It's not something that anybody is keeping from.
[00:07:41]  And is there documentation that shows underage women were also present at the island?
[00:07:45]  At the same time as any of those guys?
[00:07:48]  Not that I'm aware of.
[00:07:50]  Would you say that they're completely absolved of any wrongdoing and that DOJ has closed the case on this matter?
[00:07:55]  No, I'm not, no, no, listen, like when it comes to the trafficking of underage women, there's no statute of limitations.
[00:08:02]  So this case is never closed.
[00:08:06]  If there's evidence that we learn of that we can act on, we will act on it immediately like we do every single day.
[00:08:12]  So no, it's not closed.
[00:08:14]  You recently re-interviewed Glay Maxwell.
[00:08:16]  Did you learn anything new?
[00:08:18]  Yes.
[00:08:19]  I mean, I think we learned new information.
[00:08:21]  By the way, why did I, a lot of people have been critical or questioned why I did that.
[00:08:27]  The answer was pretty simple.
[00:08:29]  Nobody had ever talked to her.
[00:08:31]  And so imagine if I had not talked to her.
[00:08:33]  Imagine if her lawyer had said, I offered my client to the Department of Justice to be interviewed.
[00:08:40]  Imagine if I had said, no, thank you.
[00:08:42]  The criticisms would be tenfold what they are for me agreeing to sit down with her.
[00:08:46]  So we sat down with her.
[00:08:48]  She had never been interviewed before.
[00:08:50]  Every word of that interview has been transcribed, is now available to the public.
[00:08:55]  The recording of it's available to the public.
[00:08:57]  And we learned information.
[00:08:59]  Look, I can't verify what she said.
[00:09:02]  We didn't, you know, I didn't, we haven't gone back and verified every single word she said was true or false.
[00:09:09]  But she said things that I don't think anybody knew before.
[00:09:12]  Did you offer her anything in exchange for testimony on helping to arrest some of the perpetrators against young children?
[00:09:21]  We didn't offer her anything, but we never do.
[00:09:24]  What we did, we asked her questions.
[00:09:26]  Now, if somebody like her would help in the prosecution of others, there's a process in the federal system where they could potentially get a break on their sentence.
[00:09:35]  And like anybody else that's in federal prison, she potentially could take advantage to that.
[00:09:42]  As we know from what she said to me, she wasn't aware of any of that happening.
[00:09:46]  And that's what she said to me.
[00:09:48]  But isn't there photos of her with victims and Jeffrey Epstein?
[00:09:53]  Yes.
[00:09:54]  And so wouldn't it be prudent to figure out which of those other perpetrators could be prosecuted still?
[00:10:03]  I don't think the American people are wrong to want to see people go to jail beyond just Jeffrey Epstein and her.
[00:10:09]  Oh, I agree.
[00:10:10]  I don't think the American people are wrong in any way, shape, or form, but there are photos that were taken over the course of a 15-year relationship that she had with Jeffrey Epstein from the mid-90s to 2004, 2005, and then a little bit after that don't show, that have been investigated, right?
[00:10:31]  So she was investigated, extensively investigated by FBI, by New York State Police, by Southern District of New York prosecutors, and ultimately they determined that they only had evidence to charge her.
[00:10:45]  And so it's not as if this Department of Justice is choosing to charge or not charge somebody.
[00:10:52]  We will always investigate anybody for child sex crimes any day of the week.
[00:10:58]  There are other victims who have come forward, though, in the SDNY case and in other cases.
[00:11:03]  Why are we not taking them more seriously and prosecuting the people whom they cite?

=== Questions About Epstein's Death (10:55) ===

[00:11:08]  Well, we did.
[00:11:10]  At the trial of Ms. Maxwell, there were three victims who testified.
[00:11:15]  There was a whole host of victims who were interviewed by SDNY in the time leading up to the charges against Epstein, the charges against Maxwell, and her trial.
[00:11:25]  And that has all been investigated thoroughly and quickly.
[00:11:28]  And listen, the beauty of the Transparency Act is every single person in this country, including you, including members of Congress, can review the same materials that this FBI has.
[00:11:39]  And if there's something that they want to investigate, if they're, hey, why didn't you pay more attention to this email or that email, they can let us know.
[00:11:48]  And we remain willing to investigate anything that comes in front of us that we can do.
[00:11:53]  Have you combed through some of the online questioning after the files are released where people do say things exactly like that, whether that be on X or Reddit or other platforms?
[00:12:03]  100%, absolutely.
[00:12:04]  Like we're very reactive to things that we learn.
[00:12:08]  By the way, just I know that this has been said, but it's worth saying to you, Katie, the number of pages we released is as high as the Eiffel Tower, right?
[00:12:17]  So just put that into perspective.
[00:12:19]  So is there a particular piece of paper that was produced that I missed or that I haven't focused on or the FBI hasn't focused on?
[00:12:27]  Maybe.
[00:12:28]  And so if somebody identifies something, there's also a ton of misinformation.
[00:12:33]  So everybody on X out there, and you see this is from the Epstein files, it doesn't mean it is.
[00:12:40]  It just means that the person on X is saying it is.
[00:12:42]  And so it's worth doing a little more due diligence to make sure that it really is something.
[00:12:47]  Do you mean in terms of people creating fake documents or do you mean in terms of people spinning information that's in the file?
[00:12:53]  No, no, no, no.
[00:12:55]  I don't even view it as spinning.
[00:12:56]  It's people speculating or asking us to investigate.
[00:12:59]  I have no issues with that.
[00:13:00]  I'm saying completely fake images or fake emails that actually are not from the files.
[00:13:05]  Does a client list exist?
[00:13:07]  Is the government?
[00:13:08]  Is the client list existing?
[00:13:09]  Does an Epstein client list exist and is the government in possession of it?
[00:13:12]  No.
[00:13:12]  I mean, listen, everything, I could ask you the same question, right?
[00:13:16]  Because everything's been released.
[00:13:17]  So there's what's commonly referred to as the client list, if I were speculating, is the black book that has been released for years and years and years that was basically Epstein's address book.
[00:13:32]  There was a list of masseuses.
[00:13:34]  It's not a client list, obviously.
[00:13:35]  A lot of those women were actually victims.
[00:13:39]  That exists.
[00:13:41]  But I don't even, to be honest with you, I don't know what a client list is.
[00:13:44]  And I'm not trying to be naive, but what would a client list consist of?
[00:13:49]  You mean a list of Mr. Epstein's, the people he was supposedly blackmailing?
[00:13:54]  Is it people that were his business clients, his personal clients?
[00:13:58]  But no, I have not seen such a list.
[00:14:00]  Why do you think Ghelaine Maxwell is still alive, but Jeffrey Epstein isn't?
[00:14:05]  Why do I think that?
[00:14:07]  Well, I mean, Mr. Epstein died in prison in 2019, and Ms. Maxwell is still alive in prison today.
[00:14:15]  You've said twice now that he died.
[00:14:16]  Do you believe he committed suicide, or do you believe that somebody else killed him?
[00:14:22]  So I, listen, I've reviewed, like a lot of people in this country, I've reviewed all the available evidence regarding his death, and I believe that the conclusion that he committed suicide is based on a bunch of independent agencies, including the New York City Medical Examiner, the OCME.
[00:14:40]  And so I have no reason to doubt that conclusion that they reached based upon everything I've reviewed.
[00:14:45]  Now, was I there?
[00:14:48]  Were you there?
[00:14:49]  Nope.
[00:14:50]  And so, but the evidence that has been accumulated and reviewed since that time says yes, he did commit suicide.
[00:14:58]  One of the guards for Jeffrey Epstein was paid off about $5,000 a few days before the suicide.
[00:15:03]  Have you looked into that?
[00:15:06]  I don't believe it's paid off.
[00:15:08]  I believe there's information out there that there was money put into her account, $5,000 or something like this.
[00:15:15]  That was investigated by the Southern District of New York, by the FBI, by the Office of Inspector General at the Department of Justice, which is a totally separate agency.
[00:15:24]  Ultimately, that guard was charged by Southern District of New York for the conduct arising out of Mr. Epstein's death.
[00:15:31]  And so I know that it was investigated extensively.
[00:15:36]  I believe Congress is investigating now her conduct as well.
[00:15:40]  And I think she's even potentially testifying around what happened then.
[00:15:46]  And so I feel very confident in that investigation.
[00:15:50]  Do the cameras in that jail fail frequently or just in a specific case?
[00:15:54]  As the OIG, as the report has detailed exhaustively, there were systematic failures in that prison, separate and apart from the ultimate failure that took place with Mr. Epstein's death.
[00:16:08]  The phrase, Epstein didn't kill himself, is still a meme for a reason.
[00:16:11]  When people look at the facts, it fuels all kinds of conspiracy theories.
[00:16:15]  Are you still confident his death wasn't a murder?
[00:16:18]  His own, you know, there was another separate autopsy done on his body, which suggests some of the neck injuries were more consistent with a homicide than a suicide.
[00:16:26]  Have you revisited this autopsy again?
[00:16:28]  And are you guys completely confident that he was indeed suicide?
[00:16:33]  Yes, we're confident.
[00:16:34]  And by the way, the way that the manner in which he died is unusual.
[00:16:39]  So it's not a traditional, if an individual commits suicide by hanging because of the shoe, the special housing unit where he was housed, there's no way for an individual to hang themselves in the traditional sense, like from a ceiling.
[00:16:56]  So the evidence that was uncovered by the OCME was that he hung himself from the bunk bed, which is about the same height as his neck.
[00:17:06]  He's not the first inmate to do that in the federal prison system.
[00:17:11]  Is his autopsy consistent with other inmates who have killed themselves the same way?
[00:17:16]  I have not personally examined any other autopsies.
[00:17:19]  My understanding is yes, it is.
[00:17:21]  No time of death was ever determined, only that his body was discovered 6.30 the next morning.
[00:17:25]  Why couldn't investigators establish a clearer timeline?
[00:17:29]  That's a good question, and it's one of the failures, right?
[00:17:32]  Because the guards were required to do check-ins, and they were dishonest about whether they had done them every half hour like they're required to do.
[00:17:40]  They didn't do it.
[00:17:41]  And because of that, there was a large gap of time over the night that nobody checked on him.
[00:17:46]  And at some point in that time period, he died.
[00:17:50]  And so you're right.
[00:17:51]  So the exact time of death was not able to be determined because of that.
[00:17:55]  Some people believe a man who went into the cell that night wasn't the same as the one on the stretcher, that a body double or switch happened overnight.
[00:18:02]  Has DNA, dental, or fingerprint evidence confirmed that it was indeed Jeffrey Epstein who was buried?
[00:18:07]  There is no doubt, not even from, well, there's no doubt that absolutely the person that was taken out of the prison cell, the person that was taken to the hospital, the person that was taken to the autopsy by the OCME is the person that was later given over to his family was Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:18:26]  Why has none of the guards been held legally accountable?
[00:18:31]  Well, they were.
[00:18:32]  Two of them were prosecuted, and ultimately there was a non-prosecution agreement entered into by the SDNY, which ultimately leads to charges being dismissed after certain conditions are met.
[00:18:43]  But there certainly was accountability.
[00:18:45]  Whether that's the appropriate level of accountability that the American people would expect from that, this happened in 2019.
[00:18:54]  That was a decision that was made by leadership in the months and years after that.
[00:19:00]  But there was accountability in that sense.
[00:19:02]  It may not be the accountability that you want or that others want, but there was accountability.
[00:19:06]  There's also new questions about an orange-colored figure going up the stairs towards Epstein's cell around 10.39 p.m. the night he died.
[00:19:12]  FBI has said it looks like an inmate, but DOJ IG says it could be a corrections officer carrying bedding.
[00:19:18]  Do you know who that person was?
[00:19:20]  I don't think we know.
[00:19:21]  By the way, the reason why there's new questions is because of our transparency, is because the FBI and the Department of Justice found different versions of that video and immediately released it to the American public, right?
[00:19:33]  So there is no desire by Director Patel, by the Attorney General, to hide any of this information from the American people.
[00:19:41]  And it's a great point, Katie, that the failures, the shortcomings that everybody's identified in that prison, which is now closed, by the way, it's not existent anymore.
[00:19:52]  And at least in part because of what happened with Epstein, leads to these type of fair questions about what happened that night.
[00:20:02]  If someone was seen going up the stairs around 1039, wouldn't that fall within the window when Epstein could have died?
[00:20:08]  I think that falls within the window of when he could have died.
[00:20:10]  But just if you accept that he was murdered, the same that I'm accepting that he committed suicide, you have to take that to its logical end, right?
[00:20:21]  So you have to, that means that an individual, maybe this individual or somebody else, was able to get up into the shoe, which is the most secure part of the prison system, of the prison in Manhattan.
[00:20:36]  Only a few of the guards have keys to get there, the leadership, the COs, the guys that are in charge.
[00:20:43]  All of them were extensively interviewed and questioned.
[00:20:47]  And so if somebody murdered Jeffrey Epstein, it would have been— you also have to accept that that individual was able to do it, get away from the shoe successfully without being on any cameras, that every single inmate in that facility— nobody saw him, no other guards saw him or her.
[00:21:06]  I don't know if it's a man or woman, because we don't know.
[00:21:09]  And so I think that in my view, it is a horrible thing that happened that the guards didn't do their job and that the cameras were not all working properly.
[00:21:21]  But at the end of the day, the only thing we can do about that is investigate.
[00:21:26]  That's what you can do.
[00:21:27]  Like you talk about conspiracy theories, you talk about maybe he killed himself, maybe he didn't.
[00:21:31]  How do you find that out?
[00:21:32]  You investigate.
[00:21:34]  And in this case, the Bureau of Prisons investigated.
[00:21:36]  The Southern District of New York investigated.
[00:21:39]  The FBI investigated.
[00:21:40]  None of those people had an axe to grind.
[00:21:42]  But nobody would say that they were confident with how the FBI runs an investigation nor the SDNY.
[00:21:49]  Just as you say there's problems with the jail, there's definitely problems with investigators and detectives and frontline people who were, who I also think covered up for some of the actions taken by the elites, so to speak.

=== Proving the Blackmail Claims (15:38) ===

[00:22:03]  So, okay, but then the OIG, which has a whole different motivation than the FBI, the SDNY, the Bureau of Prisons, the State Police, they also came in and did a complete and thorough investigation and reached the same conclusion.
[00:22:14]  The OCME has nothing to do with the FBI.
[00:22:17]  Why did it take an act of Congress for DOJ to release the files when this was a promise made to the American people early on in the administration?
[00:22:24]  Well, because it's against the law.
[00:22:26]  So there was no legal mechanism to release the files.
[00:22:30]  There were multiple protective orders that were in place from the criminal cases in New York.
[00:22:34]  There are protections embedded in our Constitution that does not allow us to release criminal files.
[00:22:41]  Like this has never been done before.
[00:22:44]  Are there still files under seal by a court order somewhere in the country?
[00:22:49]  No, there were a small tranche of materials that the FBI had acquired from a civil case involving Mr. Epstein and a victim that we had to go back and get permission from the judge late in the process to actually release those.
[00:23:05]  We received that permission in early February and those have been released as well.
[00:23:11]  As I've said, I'm the biggest conspiracy theorist you'll ever find.
[00:23:15]  So when the Epstein story exploded, people online immediately connected it to the Pizzagate conspiracy theory about elite trial trafficking rings.
[00:23:22]  Did investigators check for any connection between Epstein and the Pizzagate controversy?
[00:23:27]  Well, when you say did investigators track the Pizzagate conspiracy theory has been debunked repeatedly by law enforcement, not by me, by law enforcement.
[00:23:37]  And I know that there's been a fair amount of searches around those certain terms.
[00:23:42]  Sure, it was totally debunked.
[00:23:44]  And then you look at what happened with Epstein, where a wealthy, well-connected man was actually trafficking underage girls in elite circles.
[00:23:49]  And then you begin to think, hmm, maybe things aren't a real conspiracy theory.
[00:23:52]  Well, but again, the only thing we can do in a conspiracy theory, Katie, is investigate.
[00:23:56]  Okay?
[00:23:56]  So it's easy to say on X or to say, I think there's an issue here, but how do we investigate?
[00:24:02]  So we investigated all the times that the certain buzzwords associated with Pizzagate were in the Epstein files, and you can do the same thing.
[00:24:11]  And users.
[00:24:12]  I've read all the pages.
[00:24:14]  And many of those, at least as far as my understanding, is of the conspiracy theory, don't line up with the conspiracy theory at all, all of them, frankly.
[00:24:26]  So I'm not sure.
[00:24:27]  I am aware that the word pizza is in the Epstein files, among other things.
[00:24:32]  Do you think those are codes for what he would do to underage women?
[00:24:35]  No.
[00:24:36]  You don't believe ice cream is a coded word for something else?
[00:24:40]  I'm not saying ice cream is never a coded word for something else.
[00:24:43]  Do you believe in the files it refers to something sexual related to underage girls?
[00:24:47]  I think there was all kinds of references to sexual, to underage women in the files, which is why Epstein was such a disgusting man.
[00:24:56]  But that's a different question with whether I believe there's any validity to the Pizzagate conspiracy.
[00:25:01]  I do not.
[00:25:02]  And my basis for believing that is not independent.
[00:25:05]  It's the law enforcement around the country that keep you safe and keep me safe, not just the FBI, but state and local law enforcement, other federal agents.
[00:25:14]  So it would be the most massive, like conspiracy theories.
[00:25:18]  That would be the biggest of all because it would mean that state and local, federal, not just DOJ, not just the- You can sell me on this.
[00:25:25]  What's that?
[00:25:25]  You can sell me on this one.
[00:25:27]  I can't be bought on this one.
[00:25:29]  Let's go.
[00:25:29]  Let's go.
[00:25:30]  Another theory is that Epstein is well connected to foreign intelligence services.
[00:25:34]  Do you have any evidence of him being a spy or a plant for another foreign country?
[00:25:40]  No, there's no evidence of that.
[00:25:42]  And we did look at that extensively, not only this administration, but every administration that's been involved in Epstein could look at that.
[00:25:51]  And there's no evidence that he was associated with, well, let me just not say there's no evidence.
[00:25:56]  The evidence that people say exists does not point to him being any part of foreign intelligence.
[00:26:02]  Now, as I will say repeatedly, I did not know Epstein.
[00:26:06]  I was not part of those investigations.
[00:26:08]  So I'm answering your question based upon what I know, based upon my investigation as a deputy attorney general for the past 11 months or so.
[00:26:17]  But from what I have seen in the files, and from what I understand happened during all the investigations, there's zero evidence of that.
[00:26:24]  Is there any connection between Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy?
[00:26:30]  I do not believe I've seen that, but I can't say I've looked at all three million pages, but I'm not aware of any connection.
[00:26:39]  One of my concerns is that when you have this many high-profile people and that no one understands how Jeffrey Epstein truly made his money, you're going to sit here and come to conclusions of logical blackmail and documented blackmail in this case, especially as it relates to potential videos of underage women that you guys haven't found.
[00:26:59]  Is the government covering up or have people at times covered up parts of the investigation and possibly lost key details because of who these people are?
[00:27:09]  Not me, and not the Attorney General of our United States.
[00:27:12]  There's no scenario in which we are not Director Patel.
[00:27:16]  You're asking me to kind of speculate or guess about whether that happened in the past.
[00:27:20]  I can't do that.
[00:27:21]  I can only tell you what we know now.
[00:27:23]  There has been no effort to protect a soul when it comes to their role, their relationship with Epstein.
[00:27:30]  And, you know, we do know how he got a lot of his wealth.
[00:27:33]  And so it has been well documented and investigated by the SDNY.
[00:27:37]  as you can see from the Epstein files that we released.
[00:27:39]  So there's a ton of banking information that we have now released.
[00:27:43]  And so anybody in this country can spend time investigating his wealth.
[00:27:48]  There's a lot of unanswered questions.
[00:27:50]  I could not agree with you more.
[00:27:53]  But whether there's a cover-up, not by us.
[00:27:57]  And by the way, there was a cover-up by Biden.
[00:28:01]  You didn't hear a word about Epstein for four years.
[00:28:04]  Do you think that was critical time that was lost?
[00:28:06]  Well, the passage of time is always something that matters to an investigation.
[00:28:10]  So of course it was.
[00:28:11]  I mean, who's the only person to do anything on Epstein is President Trump.
[00:28:16]  He was in office when the SDNY brought charges last time.
[00:28:20]  He's the one that signed the Transparency Act.
[00:28:23]  He's the one that told the Attorney General myself and the American people over and over again, I have nothing to hide, release the files.
[00:28:29]  And so that's the truth.
[00:28:31]  And you can't run from that.
[00:28:33]  He's the one that said from day one what his relationship was like with Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:28:38]  And the files and Epstein's emails to others that President Trump had nothing to do with made it crystal clear that he was being completely honest with the American people.
[00:28:49]  And that's what you can't avoid when it comes to the Epstein files.
[00:28:54]  And you agree that President Trump, in any of the files, and I've read all of them, that he has done nothing wrong.
[00:29:00]  Unequivocally.
[00:29:01]  I mean, and by the way, you do not have to believe me.
[00:29:05]  You can read the files yourself.
[00:29:06]  And there was drama about missing files that were holding, covering things up.
[00:29:11]  The evidence of the missing files came from the Epstein files.
[00:29:15]  So they're not missing files.
[00:29:17]  And we went back and adjusted that right away.
[00:29:20]  President Trump has said from day one, I have nothing to hide.
[00:29:24]  And the lawyers that represented the plaintiffs, if they had any evidence from their clients, from the victims, that President Trump was involved, we would know.
[00:29:36]  They would have sued President Trump.
[00:29:38]  And guess what?
[00:29:39]  He wasn't involved.
[00:29:39]  And so, yeah, I unequivocally feel that way.
[00:29:41]  And I think I feel that way because of the evidence.
[00:29:44]  Do you think some of the victims who were underage eventually became the perpetrators themselves in recruiting other underage women?
[00:29:52]  And that's why more people haven't come forward to testify against, say, some of the elites who engaged in this?
[00:30:00]  Or that they're still scared?
[00:30:01]  I mean, there's no doubt that that happened.
[00:30:02]  So that came out during the Maxwell trial.
[00:30:04]  It's in the files.
[00:30:06]  And that's something that's quite common in these cases.
[00:30:09]  Unfortunately, is that one of the patterns, one of the results of the patterns of abuse is that sometimes victims are then asked to do criminal, commit criminal conduct, recruiting, in this case, recruiting other young women.
[00:30:25]  And that's a very sad thing that is part of our reality.
[00:30:28]  And so, yeah, that could be a factor.
[00:30:32]  Did investigators ever find any secret rooms or tunnels on the island?
[00:30:37]  No, not that I'm, not from the search that we did.
[00:30:40]  But remember, the FBI did a limited search after they arrested Epstein in New York.
[00:30:45]  It wasn't as thorough a search as maybe you would want done or I would want done today.
[00:30:50]  They had probable cause to go and search for certain records and potentially some video equipment.
[00:30:56]  So do you think they missed the videos and they were on the island?
[00:30:59]  I have no reason to believe they missed any videos.
[00:31:01]  The FBI agents on this case were, and some of them I've worked with over the past year, were excellent.
[00:31:07]  And so I don't think that they went there and missed them.
[00:31:11]  There's also an unusual temple-like structure.
[00:31:14]  Do we know what it was used for on the island?
[00:31:18]  If anything, no, I don't.
[00:31:20]  I'm not aware of that.
[00:31:20]  I think there's some references to that structure in the emails from Epstein.
[00:31:25]  Nothing suggesting anything other than that it was something that they looked at.
[00:31:30]  Did you guys find all the videotapes from all of his hidden cameras that he had throughout his homes?
[00:31:37]  There's no evidence that he had hidden cameras throughout his phones, throughout his homes.
[00:31:41]  I mean, so just let me put a final point on that.
[00:31:43]  Does that mean he didn't have hidden cameras?
[00:31:45]  No.
[00:31:45]  I have no idea whether he did or not.
[00:31:47]  We never collected any evidence.
[00:31:49]  We got all of his devices.
[00:31:50]  We searched all of his devices.
[00:31:51]  There is no evidence of any hidden cameras.
[00:31:54]  There's been pictures put in the New York Times and some of the magazines of cameras in some of the rooms.
[00:32:01]  Those are pictures from much, much later than the time that SDNY was investigating.
[00:32:05]  So those are pictures taken after 2017, 2018.
[00:32:09]  And SDNY was investigating the 90s and the early 2000s.
[00:32:14]  Whether there were hidden cameras, I have no idea.
[00:32:16]  I just know that we do not have them in the Epstein files.
[00:32:19]  He was also prolific at talking to reporters and convincing other people to trash other people who maybe didn't succumb to his blackmail.
[00:32:28]  Do you think he also used part of his ability to influence others to undermine his opponents in business?
[00:32:38]  I don't know.
[00:32:39]  I don't have any evidence that that happened.
[00:32:41]  You know, you said to cover up, you know, for blackmail.
[00:32:44]  We don't have evidence of blackmail.
[00:32:45]  And again, that's not to say he didn't blackmail.
[00:32:47]  It's just to say that the FBI doesn't have evidence of that.
[00:32:49]  And you do see him speaking with a ton of reporters.
[00:32:52]  That is true.
[00:32:53]  And it's to gain advantages.
[00:32:55]  You can see why he's doing it in some cases because he hates President Trump.
[00:32:59]  In some cases, it's because he hates other people or is trying to get at other people.
[00:33:03]  I can't explain to you his motivation.
[00:33:06]  I don't know.
[00:33:07]  But you don't think that as part of Jeffrey Epstein's the way he tried to gain wealth, whether that be through using less or through using gates and trying to get them to engage on different business activities to influence others, do you think that was part of his tactics that he used from blackmailing people in the sexual sense?
[00:33:29]  I don't know.
[00:33:30]  We don't have any evidence he did blackmail people in the sexual sense.
[00:33:33]  I mean, I just don't have evidence of that.
[00:33:34]  And that's not to say he didn't do it.
[00:33:36]  It's to say that the FBI is a very important thing.
[00:33:38]  Don't you hear testimony from people, though, that say that?
[00:33:40]  And there's tons of people who have over time said that's how Jeffrey Epstein has operated.
[00:33:45]  There's people that have said it over time, but not people that I've seen that testified to it or that have said that the FBI had happened in a way that we could use.
[00:33:54]  That's certainly something that's on X, and people have said that publicly who knew him or didn't know him.
[00:34:00]  But there is the evidence in the files I can now say, you don't have to trust me.
[00:34:05]  Go through the evidence and see if you find evidence of blackmail.
[00:34:08]  We haven't found that.
[00:34:10]  So there's no evidence that he laundered money or used his influence operations to try to gain additional wealth or tried to convince people to do things to hurt his opponents.
[00:34:21]  Oh, I think he was a very aggressive businessman when it came to things like that.
[00:34:24]  Laundering money, he wasn't charged with money laundering.
[00:34:28]  I think that that was part of their investigation in SDNY, and ultimately they didn't charge him with that.
[00:34:33]  He was very shrewd at business, and he was a disgusting man.
[00:34:37]  I mean, there's no doubt about that.
[00:34:38]  And there's no doubt that he trafficked young women for a very long time and unfortunately was never held to account because of his death after he was arrested.
[00:34:50]  But a lot of these questions I don't know that we'll ever know because of what happened.
[00:34:54]  You sound really resigned to the fact that no one else will be charged moving forward.
[00:34:58]  I'm not resigned.
[00:34:59]  How is it that the UK can do more on Prince Andrew than we can for any single one of these wealthy, elite billionaires and people in government even, and not have one prosecution, not hold one person accountable?
[00:35:17]  Well, because you need provable evidence.
[00:35:19]  And so what I can do as a Deputy Attorney General is invite anybody with evidence to come to the FBI and tell us, which is what we've been screaming from the rooftops for a year.
[00:35:30]  And not one of those 300 women have come forward and said, here's what happened to me and here's how you prosecuted.
[00:35:35]  Then why are we paying settlements?
[00:35:37]  They have not.
[00:35:38]  And by the way, if there's information that they have that they have chosen not to share with the FBI, I would encourage them to do it.
[00:35:44]  By the way, hundreds of victims were already interviewed and investigated over the years to try to go after other perpetrators.
[00:35:50]  I read that Epstein's fund has paid out over like $300 million.
[00:35:54]  So if they're paying out money to supposed victims, surely there's a crimes there, right?
[00:35:58]  Well, Epstein, the money given to Epstein's victims were for crimes that Epstein committed against them, not necessarily crimes other people committed against those victims.
[00:36:09]  And so there's not, I mean, listen, I am not trying to defend Epstein.
[00:36:14]  I'm not.
[00:36:15]  And I do defend the work that this department is doing today right now, which is going after every single perpetrator anywhere.
[00:36:22]  And if there's a narrative that exists that we're ignoring Epstein victims, that is false.
[00:36:29]  They know that every victim, and I'll say it again right now, if you are a victim, if you are a victim's lawyer, you can contact the FBI, you can contact the Department of Justice, and we will do everything we can to investigate anything that you have to say, which is what we always do.
[00:36:43]  So I'm not resigned to there never being another prosecution.
[00:36:46]  But I also am not going to be defensive about the fact that this department is doing more to protect victims and more to protect the most vulnerable among us than the Biden administration ever did.
[00:36:59]  And so that's the narrative that I want put forward.
[00:37:02]  Do you still have FBI agents investigating the Epstein files and Jeffrey Epstein to at least have one person held accountable in this situation?
[00:37:14]  Well, the FBI has hundreds of agents that investigate these crimes, and that would include Epstein or anybody else.
[00:37:20]  I don't want to put Epstein victims and any victim deserves complete vindication of everything that happened to them.
[00:37:28]  And so, yes, of course we have agents all over the country dedicated to helping victims.
[00:37:38]  And that's different, though, than whether we are not investigating Epstein.

=== Victims and New Evidence (02:55) ===

[00:37:41]  He's dead.
[00:37:43]  So what we have is a bunch of files that we have now released to the American people.
[00:37:48]  And if anybody, if we learn anything that allows us to charge any perpetrator that knew Epstein or so do with him.
[00:37:54]  You don't think it's a problem that no one's ever found the tapes?
[00:37:56]  What?
[00:37:57]  Like this is mind-blowing to me.
[00:37:59]  For sure, he blackmailed.
[00:38:00]  How do you know that?
[00:38:01]  Because other people who have seen cameras have said this.
[00:38:05]  Who?
[00:38:05]  I'm not aware of that.
[00:38:06]  Like, if you know something I don't know, I would love to learn from you.
[00:38:08]  Who said that?
[00:38:09]  Aren't there cameras that are shown, as you just said, in the videos?
[00:38:12]  You can see cameras in some pictures that were taken much, much later, like in 2017, 2018, in the main common area of the world.
[00:38:19]  I watched a Netflix documentary, Todd, that said that there was a couple victims who said they had a camera trained at them and trained at Jeffrey while he was sitting at his computer.
[00:38:26]  So there are film that exists.
[00:38:28]  No, no, so there's victims who said that they believed that they were filmed, okay?
[00:38:33]  But not necessarily from hidden cameras, but from people pointing a camera at them.
[00:38:37]  We do not have the FBI in their investigation in 2008, 9, 10, and 2018, 19, 20.
[00:38:46]  We did not get those pictures.
[00:38:48]  I'm not saying they don't exist.
[00:38:50]  But you're saying how could you not prosecute them?
[00:38:52]  I'm saying, no, I'm saying, no, I'm saying how do you still not have investigators who want to find those tapes?
[00:38:57]  Like Kevin?
[00:38:58]  Every investigator in the FBI would love to find those tapes.
[00:39:01]  Of course.
[00:39:02]  If it could help bring a victim justice, of course.
[00:39:06]  What do victims say when you say, would you testify to this in court?
[00:39:09]  Do they just say no?
[00:39:12]  Well, it depends on the victim.
[00:39:14]  I mean, obviously, we had several brave women who testified against Maxwell.
[00:39:18]  And anytime a woman is asked to testify in court in these cases, it requires bravery that most of us will never even begin to understand.
[00:39:26]  And so every victim is in a different place into what they know.
[00:39:30]  Sometimes they just don't know.
[00:39:32]  Sometimes their faces were covered.
[00:39:33]  It was dark.
[00:39:34]  And that's a horrible fact of these cases.
[00:39:37]  And so it depends on the victim.
[00:39:41]  There are victims that have been extremely cooperative, but they didn't know information.
[00:39:46]  And this is true in all kinds of cases.
[00:39:48]  And surely Glenn Maxwell knows more than what she's let on.
[00:39:51]  And have we continued to press her for information about these individuals to bring other people to justice?
[00:39:57]  Well, I met with her for two days.
[00:40:01]  I don't know if she's met with other individuals since then.
[00:40:04]  I know that Congress subpoenaed her, and I believe she took the fifth and didn't answer questions when they met with her.
[00:40:12]  So if Ms. Maxwell has information that can lead to the prosecution of others, she's always willing to share it and will always listen to it.
[00:40:22]  So I feel like I've grilled you sufficiently on Jeffrey Epstein for the next little bit.
[00:40:28]  I do this often to Todd.
[00:40:30]  For anyone who wants to know this, this is my favorite subject every time I see Todd Blanche in person in all public settings.
[00:40:36]  Very loudly.

=== Transparency vs Conspiracy Theories (07:30) ===

[00:40:37]  That's right.
[00:40:38]  Very true.
[00:40:39]  We've spent the bulk of this interview discussing Jeffrey Epstein and my conspiracy theory surrounding it and others.
[00:40:44]  What's your favorite conspiracy theory?
[00:40:47]  I am not a conspiracy theorist at all.
[00:40:51]  Is there anyone that's been proven true that conspiracy theories don't exist?
[00:40:56]  No, I think the beauty of conspiracy theories is that the reason why they are so important to this country and even the Department of Justice is because you have to be willing to ask yourself, to check yourself and to make sure you're right.
[00:41:10]  And so when I say I'm not a conspiracy theorist, it's because if you prove one right, then it's not a conspiracy theory.
[00:41:16]  It's totally true.
[00:41:17]  Do you think DOJ has done a good job in their handling of the Epstein files, even in terms of the communication to the public that led up to the files going public?
[00:41:28]  Yes.
[00:41:29]  Look, and here's why.
[00:41:31]  Here's why I say yes.
[00:41:34]  We cannot release information legally in criminal cases.
[00:41:38]  We are extremely limited under the laws in this country and our Constitution.
[00:41:42]  And so when we said to the American people, we don't have anything else we can share to you, that was completely true.
[00:41:47]  When we said that we did not, that we reviewed the files and there was not anything based on the files that we could investigate, that was completely true.
[00:41:54]  It remains true to this day.
[00:41:56]  Does that mean, so when the law was passed and we were able to release things, we put 600 lawyers and FBI agents on it through the holidays working, took them 65, 70 days to review over 6 million pieces of paper with heavy redactions and very complicated to protect victims.
[00:42:15]  And so we did a, I am proud of that work that we did.
[00:42:18]  And it is not satisfying to the American people that nobody's been arrested, that nobody's being charged.
[00:42:23]  And that shouldn't be satisfying to anybody.
[00:42:25]  It feels like a massive cover-up.
[00:42:28]  But here's the thing.
[00:42:30]  Over the summer, massive cover-up.
[00:42:33]  You didn't release any files.
[00:42:34]  Two months later, we released all the public files that we were able to release.
[00:42:38]  The public said, that's not enough.
[00:42:40]  We want more.
[00:42:41]  We said, we can't do any more.
[00:42:42]  We went to the judge and said, can we please release the grand jury?
[00:42:45]  The judge said, no, you cannot.
[00:42:47]  Still a massive cover-up?
[00:42:49]  Okay, fine.
[00:42:50]  Let's pass a law that requires us to release everything.
[00:42:53]  Okay, do it.
[00:42:54]  We did it.
[00:42:55]  Still a massive cover-up?
[00:42:56]  I mean, at some point, I don't know what to do to make the American people understand that we have been more transparent.
[00:43:05]  President Trump, Attorney General Bondi, has been more transparent when it comes to Epstein by a million times than any of our predecessors.
[00:43:14]  And so instead of saying thank you for being transparent, you're saying it still feels like a massive coverback.
[00:43:18]  Cover-up.
[00:43:19]  I do agree that President Trump has done more to release the Epstein files and get to the truth than anyone else in American history and anything else in the last 20 years since Jeffrey Epstein started to be investigated.
[00:43:28]  I also agree that Joe Biden did nothing and that most of these Democrats who are mentioned in the files who are screaming for further releases also were quiet in these intervening years.
[00:43:38]  You didn't hear one peep from Reid Hoffman about releasing the files until President Trump took office.
[00:43:42]  That's a bit of a hoax as well.
[00:43:45]  So I do think DOJ has done a phenomenal job in terms of releasing members of Congress as well, Rocana, specifically him as well, who's taken money from Reid Hoffman.
[00:43:54]  And you can go into conspiracy theories, but that's another one for me.
[00:43:57]  Is why is Rocana only speaking about this now after he's taken money from Reid Hoffman who's mentioned in the files?
[00:44:02]  It's a great question.
[00:44:04]  Yeah, I mean.
[00:44:04]  Why is that?
[00:44:05]  No, and I don't know.
[00:44:07]  You'd have to ask him.
[00:44:09]  But that is part of the challenge that the Attorney General has and that I have in we're trying to state the obvious to the American people, which is that we were told we were prohibited from releasing files by law.
[00:44:20]  The law was changed.
[00:44:22]  We then spent a painstaking amount of time to comply with President Trump Transparency Act and to release the files.
[00:44:30]  Do you think this would have been different had you just done it upfront earlier in the administration and gotten to the same outcome that we're at today?
[00:44:37]  Well, the law would have been passed earlier in the administration.
[00:44:40]  I don't know.
[00:44:41]  I don't know whether it would be different.
[00:44:42]  I would say to the American people that are watching that if the same thing is true that we've said since the day that the Attorney General took this job and the day that I took this job, that protecting victims is the most important thing that we do when it comes to Epstein or when it comes to anybody else in this country.
[00:45:01]  And so if there's somebody out there that has information about an individual that's committed any crime against a victim associated with Epstein or not, they should come forward.
[00:45:13]  If it's Epstein, we'll investigate.
[00:45:15]  If it's somebody else, we'll investigate.
[00:45:17]  What's a typical day for you like these days?
[00:45:20]  Every day is different.
[00:45:22]  Serving in this administration is the greatest honor of my life by far.
[00:45:28]  But it's met with challenges every day, and every day is trying to do as much as we can to protect the American people, to keep this country safe, to make this country safe.
[00:45:42]  And I love my job.
[00:45:44]  I love it.
[00:45:45]  Is being the Deputy Attorney General the job you thought it would be when you said yes?
[00:45:49]  No, definitely not.
[00:45:50]  Why?
[00:45:50]  It's much more difficult.
[00:45:52]  The challenges that the department faces are unprecedented.
[00:45:57]  Like what?
[00:45:59]  We have judges around this country that are actively trying to keep President Trump from implementing his policies.
[00:46:06]  I did not forecast that happening.
[00:46:08]  I did not forecast judges acting in that manner because they're not supposed to act in that manner.
[00:46:14]  I didn't forecast the challenges that we would have turning law enforcement around to where what we're doing is just trying to take bad guys off the street and getting people who are here illegally out.
[00:46:29]  I didn't appreciate the challenges that would be.
[00:46:33]  But I also didn't appreciate the good parts of the job either.
[00:46:35]  Like I didn't appreciate how well we work together.
[00:46:40]  So the Attorney General, all of our law enforcement partners, the rest of the cabinet that works with these.
[00:46:46]  Who's your best friend?
[00:46:47]  Who's my best friend?
[00:46:48]  In the administration?
[00:46:49]  Oh, oh.
[00:46:50]  In the administration.
[00:46:51]  Obviously, it's Christine.
[00:46:52]  I'm sorry for your wife.
[00:46:55]  Who's my best friend in the administration?
[00:46:57]  I don't know if I have a best friend.
[00:46:59]  I'm very close to the Attorney General.
[00:47:02]  We didn't know each other at all.
[00:47:03]  We have met once before, before we were nominated.
[00:47:07]  And you were the president's lawyer prior to this?
[00:47:08]  I was the president's lawyer prior to this.
[00:47:10]  I met the attorney general one time as part of that.
[00:47:13]  And we have a relationship now where we speak seven days a week.
[00:47:18]  We trust each other, each other's judgment on things.
[00:47:23]  We work very well together.
[00:47:24]  The folks at the White House, Stephen, your husband, and I didn't know each other very well beforehand.
[00:47:30]  We speak seven days a week as well, as you probably know.
[00:47:34]  And other folks, people that I didn't know at all, the vice president, the Secretary of State, that I have relationships with.
[00:47:40]  I'm lucky enough to have relationships now.
[00:47:42]  Everybody wants to make this country a better place, and so that's part of the job is great.
[00:47:48]  What's the most frustrating case that you have right now?
[00:47:51]  The most frustrating case that we have right now are on our immigration issues.
[00:47:56]  And it's because the immigration laws in this country, we are operating within the laws, and nobody has said differently.
[00:48:03]  Do you think district court judges should be able to make decisions on behalf of the entire country?

=== Holding Elites Accountable Now (06:49) ===

[00:48:07]  Of course not.
[00:48:08]  And neither did the Supreme Court.
[00:48:09]  That's why we won that case, as we should have won.
[00:48:13]  And virtually every immigration issue that's going to the appellate courts or the Supreme Court is coming out in a way that's consistent with our perspective.
[00:48:21]  But yesterday we saw that Bobby Kennedy's vaccine agenda was stopped by just one district court judge and said that we had to revert to a private prior schedule.
[00:48:32]  That's right, that's right.
[00:48:33]  And that's the same judge that has been reversed by the Supreme Court on multiple occasions.
[00:48:39]  And the First Circuit stated one of his other decisions earlier in the day, earlier this week.
[00:48:43]  And that's unfortunate.
[00:48:45]  But guess what?
[00:48:45]  The system will work.
[00:48:47]  So what you do when you believe there's a decision that's wrong is you appeal.
[00:48:51]  Do you think Judge Boesberg should be impeached?
[00:48:53]  I'm not going to comment on Judge Boesberg.
[00:48:57]  What keeps you up at night?
[00:49:01]  Well, two things.
[00:49:03]  One, keeping this country safe and making sure that we, this past two weeks, there have been multiple attempts in our homeland on American citizens.
[00:49:14]  And also making sure that the American people feel like they get what they paid for, that they voted for President Trump in this administration and delivering on that message is something that I think we should never take for granted.
[00:49:30]  Where do you get your news?
[00:49:32]  I read the New York Post every morning over coffee.
[00:49:36]  Like physical print?
[00:49:37]  No, on my phone.
[00:49:40]  No.
[00:49:41]  An electronic job.
[00:49:43]  The New York Post.
[00:49:44]  I've read the New York Post almost every day since 1999.
[00:49:48]  What's your favorite legal drama?
[00:49:49]  I don't like legal dramas.
[00:49:51]  It's too real for you?
[00:49:52]  It's just, yeah, most of them are not rational.
[00:49:55]  I like What Am I Watching Right Now?
[00:49:58]  Yeah.
[00:49:58]  I just finished, let's see, I'm watching an Apple show about the CIA operatives, and it's very good.
[00:50:07]  I like those kind of shows.
[00:50:08]  I'd be remiss if I didn't ask this question.
[00:50:11]  Go ahead.
[00:50:12]  Why haven't we arrested Clapper, Comey, Brennan?
[00:50:19]  So many traitors to our country.
[00:50:22]  Why haven't we done more to hold people accountable?
[00:50:25]  I think that, well, first of all, I'm not going to talk about any ongoing investigations, and I can't, but I think the Attorney General and myself, Director Patel, are focused on nothing more than accountability.
[00:50:39]  These are people who waged witch hunts against President Trump for only political purposes.
[00:50:45]  Yet I'm sure they're all guilty of committing various crimes, which I know you can't comment on, so we'll give you a pass.
[00:50:52]  But don't you agree that we should hold people accountable who do these types of things?
[00:50:57]  I think there's nothing more important in the Department of Justice than accountability.
[00:51:01]  Yes, I agree.
[00:51:02]  Do you think that these district courts that keep trying to oust some of our prosecutors across the country, what are we doing to combat that and hopefully having people who can represent this administration's viewpoints in court and actually prosecute some of these cases that the American people would like to see?
[00:51:24]  Look, our prosecutors work hard every day.
[00:51:26]  And I love our prosecutors.
[00:51:28]  And they have the toughest job.
[00:51:30]  They have a much harder job than I do.
[00:51:32]  And you're right.
[00:51:33]  In some places, there's resistance even from the bench.
[00:51:36]  And that shouldn't be.
[00:51:39]  But the only thing we can do is keep on fighting.
[00:51:41]  That's all we can tell our prosecutors to do is keep on fighting and keep on going into court and representing this administration.
[00:51:50]  And eventually we will win.
[00:51:55]  Would you say that DOJ is firing on all cylinders to do as much as we can to arrest people who are illegally voting, who are in this country illegally, who are committing crimes, you know, that conservatives have said for years, we wish there was more prosecutions, yet you don't see them now.
[00:52:09]  Are those cases actively being investigated to hopefully turn into prosecutions?
[00:52:13]  I think we are actively, yes, I think we're operating on all of our cylinders.
[00:52:17]  I think that there is a lot of great work happening in everything you just talked about.
[00:52:21]  And this should not even be controversial to say that we're doing everything we can to make sure that our elections are secure.
[00:52:26]  That's not a controversial statement.
[00:52:29]  And so the fact that the Department of Justice is doing that shouldn't surprise anybody.
[00:52:32]  When it comes to the other work that we're doing, investigations, they are done in secret and they take time.
[00:52:41]  And there's nothing that anybody should expect differently than that with this administration.
[00:52:47]  But yes, the department's working hard and we're doing good work.
[00:52:51]  So normally I end on this last question, but we're going to tag one on to the end.
[00:52:54]  So we've got two more to go here.
[00:52:56]  If you could host a dinner party with three people, dead or alive, who's at the table and what are you eating?
[00:53:02]  So if I could host a dinner party with three people, I would invite, I would have Wayne Gretzky, I would have President Trump, and I would have Tiger Woods.
[00:53:17]  And we're going to have steak and some sort of potato.
[00:53:22]  And the reason why I picked those three is because President Trump's great at dinner.
[00:53:27]  He holds a conversation and he's funny.
[00:53:30]  Tiger Woods, I think, is the greatest golfer of all time, and I like golf.
[00:53:35]  And Wayne Gretzky is one of my heroes and also the greatest hockey player of all time.
[00:53:39]  So that would be a good meal.
[00:53:42]  And we're going to end where we began, which is most of what I see on Instagram and TikTok and X related to the moms are very concerned that our administration is not, and I say ours and I mean the Trump administration, is not taking seriously enough about child predators and how they prey on our kids.
[00:54:01]  And as a mom of three, soon to be four, young children, I'd like to know that our DOJ and our FBI and all investigators are working as hard as they can to prosecute those crimes and not covering up for anybody.
[00:54:12]  We're not.
[00:54:12]  And I will commit to you that we will do a better job of getting our messaging out.
[00:54:16]  Because when I tell you that the Attorney General, every single time that she speaks publicly or privately, she talks about the most important job we have is protecting our most vulnerable.
[00:54:26]  And that goes out, meaning going after sex traffickers, going after men that are doing harm to children or young women.
[00:54:34]  And not only has she said that, but our actions are much louder than our words.
[00:54:39]  We prosecuted and are prosecuting more of those offenders than the last administration did its entire time.
[00:54:46]  And it's only been one year.
[00:54:48]  And so to the moms out there that are worried that we're not doing enough, I want you to worry.
[00:54:54]  And that's an important thing to do for your children.

=== Protecting Our Most Vulnerable (00:24) ===

[00:54:56]  But you have an attorney general and a deputy attorney general, a director of the FBI, HSI.
[00:55:02]  We are working tirelessly to protect our most vulnerable.
[00:55:07]  Thank you for doing this.
[00:55:08]  Of course.
[00:55:09]  Thank you, Katie.
[00:55:10]  Thank you so much for watching this episode of the Katie Miller Podcast.
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