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Thank you all for joining me today, Thursday, February 5th, 2026.
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You go to it, and it literally says number one bestseller in comparative religion.
Thanks to you guys.
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So, Amazon, the Jesus Deception.
But we have a guest today, a guest that's been playing for several weeks.
And, you know, I've wanted to talk to our guest Blonde today, host of the Backlash for a long time.
I've known her co-host, Dave Riley.
He's one of my few Christian friends left these days.
But she is here, and this is going to be a big show.
Going to be talking about trad life, little scandals in the Christian nationalist trad life scene, and some of the Epstein satanic cabal stuff, a little bit of the Jesus question as well.
So, welcome, Blonde.
Thanks for being here.
How are you?
Number one in Judaism, you say.
Are you going to put that in your bio?
Top selling Judaism author.
Yeah.
What a better way to own the Jews than to have to own all of it than be at the top of all their categories on Amazon.
I'm sure there's a lot of seething going on.
I like it.
You should do it.
Thanks so much for having me on.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for having me on.
You guys had me on your show, The Backlash, and I've known of you for many years.
You had me on with Devin from Blackpilled and Dave.
It was a very good discussion.
We also did The Space as well.
That was a lot of fun.
So I feel bad that I haven't tried to invite you on already.
Dave also, I've been wanting to have him on for years, but it was really cool to have you to be on The Backlash.
To be honest, I felt a little left out for a while.
I feel a little gatekept and excluded and ostracized because I don't believe in Jewish fairy tales.
I hear you.
You are always welcome in the sphere.
Thank you.
So blonde in, oh no, first show that you've been on here.
You've been around for a good while online doing this, right?
You've been in the game.
I don't want to call you an old head because you're a lady and I would never call any lady old.
A mother, married and mother also, and the Viking queen of the movement that's what do you say?
Lapsed Catholic, right?
So you've been kind of trying to bridge the gap between the movements and the pagan Christian divide a little bit.
Yeah.
I keep trying, much to the chagrin of both parties, I'm afraid.
And nobody wants this, and I just keep doing it.
I'm just the nag.
I'm the old head nag.
Hate from both sides.
Actually, I saw a lot of love in our chat.
Everybody was saying they liked Rebecca.
I think watching that Groyper general Keebler elf trying to browbeat you for not disavowing me on your timeline.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I saw some comments that were like, she did not stick to her convictions.
And that is true.
But I think both parties are recognizing that I kind of lack conviction on this topic because I'm having some issues of faith.
And that's, you know, that means that I can't proselytize at all.
I don't really have any authority to proselytize.
And that's probably why I'm a good person to try to bring white positive groups together, although it is not working.
Well, I realized that a while ago, actually.
So you got the show The Backlash.
And I wanted to hear a little bit about you guys are up in Idaho.
You're basically kind of like a Christian nationalist podcast.
And you've been like having a lot of backlash in the community from Christians, right?
Yeah.
Fitting name.
I know.
It is.
Well, the purpose of the podcast is to try to build some on the ground movements.
And I like having different perspectives.
Dave is a Catholic nationalist and Cameron is a geopolitical expert that has Anglican leanings.
And I am Catholic, but I'm a bit lapsed.
And so I think it's good to have a little bit of friction amongst people that are all generally white positive because this does represent a larger problem in the movement.
Like what are we going to do with each other?
And I feel like we have to unify all white positive factions if we're going to be successful.
I mean, generally, I advocate for a white vanguard to emerge, but I do think that there are strength in numbers.
And there seem to be so few of us.
Cameron is a little bit more optimistic than I am on this question.
He's always saying that tribalism is the basic nature to which we revert.
But I am just worried that people are so propagandized that that is not going to happen.
And so I do like to get people together on racial issues as much as I possibly can.
And so that's the purpose of the show.
We all have our different perspectives and we fight about it sometimes.
But I think that we should all, you know, kind of bury the hatchet for the greater cause.
Well, I think we can bury the hatchet, so to say, like on a lot of issues, on certain issues.
But on the Jesus question, it's kind of like an insurmountable difficulty to get over because it's like Christians want Jesus to be central to the whole movement and our criticisms of Israel or Judaism or Zionism is all centered and rooted in religion.
And they're running around saying Christ is king is the mantra.
And, you know, a lot of other people see like that's kind of the problem that's led to the need for an America first.
And it's not real and it's worshiping foreign gods.
So I don't see how there can be a compromise.
Like there could be a compromise like, okay, I'll stop saying you're going to bow to Thor if you stop, you know, pushing Jesus down our throats.
There's going to have to be some kind of gentleman's agreement, I think.
Do you remember what it was like before everybody became so political?
I remember in college, I was like a lazy libertarian, but I had friends from all walks of life and we would kind of spar with each other on different things.
And at the end of the day, if it became too contentious, we just wouldn't talk about it.
So maybe I'm trying to resurrect some college fantasy where your fundamental ideologies don't matter as much because you have other things in common.
But this is a problem on the right.
And as you can see in that Beardson interview, he's like, well, even talking to somebody like this is going to is going to bring people away from Christ.
But I kind of reject thing, talking about your philosophical differences.
I mean, maybe I'm not the right person for the job because I am having significant doubts.
So I'm vulnerable to people like Beerson, but I'm also vulnerable to pagan positions too.
So I don't know.
I mean, I can't be the only person that's having that doubts about their worldview and their personal philosophies.
And so much of this channel has just been catharsis, right?
And I think that's why a lot of us got into the game because we were like, if I don't talk about this stuff, my head is going to explode.
And I don't want to present an image that is disconnected with the doubts that I'm having and the philosophical issues that I'm having.
Because you see what happens when you do that.
You have to be authentic.
You have to be authentic about these things.
So I'm just trying to really fight for the truth and come along on my own journey towards Christianity, if that's what God wants.
But I am experiencing doubts, and that's part of what I'm dealing with right now.
Okay, we're already getting very heavy, Rebecca.
I was trying to start a little light, easy, and build our way up to the deconstruction Christian question stuff, to be honest.
Could we, let's go there, but let's talk.
I want to hear a little bit quickly about the backlash you guys have had.
I find it interesting, like what you're running up against up there in Idaho with what you're doing.
So a little bit on that.
And then also I want to get into the Sarah Stock thing.
I'm ready for your Sarah Stock take.
And then we'll close it out with the Christian stuff.
Let's just slow it down a little bit.
Well, one of the things that I appreciate about Catholicism, especially traditional Catholicism, is that there is a racial element and they do rage really hard against the Jews.
So I'm a Novus Ordo Catholic and Novus Ordo, they're responsible for a significant amount of the multicultural issue and the diversity issue in the United States.
The Vatican has had major problems with infiltration.
But up here in North Idaho, The traditional Catholics, they're serious about their faith.
They are having big families.
They're good, solid people.
And they are J-aware.
They're Jewish-aware.
And that is such a positive quality in somebody, especially with our lack of numbers, that I find this incredibly appealing.
Now, they are warring with Zionist evangelicals.
And I think that that community is self-limiting because Gen Z doesn't really want to hear it after witnessing the atrocities in Gaza.
They are largely anti-Zionist.
And so I think that that part of the Christian element is being diminished organically.
And this is a development that I'm very, very excited about.
So we're really at the forefront of this in North Idaho with this evangelical V Catholic thing.
And seeing this on the ground has just been fascinating.
What was the next question?
Sorry.
Hold on.
You mentioned Norvis Ordo, right?
So explain what that is for people that don't understand.
That's like a schismatic sect of Catholicism.
Is that the one that the Pope just said that is like they're doing baptisms or handing out priesthoods so that like they're that somebody else?
Technically, from the Vatican's perspective, I mean, I'm not an expert on any of this.
Dave is the guy to talk to about this, but the SPX and traditional Catholics to the Vatican, I believe that they're schismatic.
But in reality, if you're seeking truth, they do represent a more honest and more truthful adherence to original Catholic doctrines.
So the church that I belong to is a modern post-Vatican II Catholic church.
And one of the reasons that I'm lapsed is that the post-Vatican II Catholic churches, they are the ones that are most responsible for the racial issues that have emerged over the last, especially 40 to 50 years.
And there's a lot of corruption in that church.
Now, the reason that I'm not a traditional Catholic is that I had some problem.
Well, I continue to have some problems normalizing my marriage because my husband is unbaptized.
So when I saw it in space.
When I saw it.
Me too.
I always rejected it.
I'm like, no magic water for me.
Sorry.
I don't need an ancient sacrifice to forgive me.
So I can be part of the traditional Catholic church, but they do view my marriage as illegitimate unless it is normalized within traditional church.
So I don't believe I can receive any of the sacraments.
And I haven't gone through the process of normalization.
And so I kind of feel like, well, if I can't receive any of the sacraments, then I don't really believe.
Your marriage was not consecrated by the Pope like Sarah Stock, so it's illegitimate.
That is correct.
Hers was real, though.
So technically, I'm living in sin with a non-marital partner.
Dude, so I don't know if you ever talk about your husband, but is he not a Christian then?
He's not.
No.
Boom.
Where's the sound effects?
Boom.
Or like a celebration sound effects.
Nice.
He has been going through the process of, sorry, we have a bit of a leg, so I don't mean to talk over you.
He has been going through the process of converting to Catholicism, but it's more so that he can be a godparent for our nephew.
In terms of belief, he's not there.
And he will tell me, like, well, if it's supposed to happen, the belief will follow.
But, like, I don't think it's ever going to happen.
I pray for it, but I don't think it's going to happen.
You know what?
I got to send both of you my book.
I'm going to send both of you my book.
Is that a good idea?
Oh, no.
Just to stop that.
No, I'm just shitting.
No, I'll send it to anybody.
After he's baptized.
No, before, before he takes the mark.
Okay.
All right.
So, like, so you hold meetups and like Christian Zionist groups like try to shut you down and get you banned and thrown out and write articles and that type of stuff everywhere you go that it's the Christian Zionist, or is it like other Catholics that are giving you the most trouble?
No, it's Jews and it's Christian Zionists.
I would say that's pretty much the only opposition that we face to doing any IRL events.
But these Christian Zionists, I mean, they are really organized and they're well-funded and they're diligent.
So it's been rough.
Yeah, it's okay, though.
I mean, if you're not facing any opposition, are you even doing anything important?
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That's true.
That's true.
Most of this is just based on the things that we talk about with Judaism.
I think if we just, if we weren't viewed as anti-Semitic, that we wouldn't really be having any problems here.
Yep.
Yep.
All right.
So let's get the Sarah Stock take.
I find this story to just be like a chef's kiss to such vindication because, like, this, this, for people that don't know, there's a huge scandal with two right-wing influencers.
Sarah Stock, this blonde girl that's like 20 or 21 years old that's new to the scene.
She started working with Elijah Schaefer from the Blaze, a Christian nationalist type.
And he was at the Blaze and then he started his own thing called Riff TV, where she was working for him.
And he was married with kids and they were hooking up.
And she got famous on being a trad cat Catholic.
And she even went on the whatever podcast and claimed to be a virgin.
And she claimed to be a virgin to her husband.
This is what people are saying, allegedly.
And she was hooking up with her boss until right before she was engaged.
And she didn't tell him.
She got consecrated by the Pope.
And she's living this whole life.
This is what Elijah wanted to do to break up the consecration.
This is what he was fantasizing about.
Is that not so funny?
AI.
This is what Elijah posted the day that she got engaged.
Huge congrats to Sarah for her and her new fiancé.
Oh, gosh.
Is that so funny?
Okay, let's watch this too, and then we'll get the take.
Hi, I'm Sarah Stock.
I'm 20.
I'm from Newport Beach.
I'm single.
I've never had a long, serious relationship or anything.
I've had like two pretty short relationships and a lot of first dates kind of thing.
How many first dates would you say you've had?
No idea, to be honest.
More than 10, more than 20, more than 30.
I don't know.
Probably around 20 over my life.
Okay.
What's the longest period of time that you've dated?
This is such a weird show that they do this.
You haven't been on here, right?
Uh-uh.
Would you?
You should.
You think you'd be a good guest for that?
I would.
Yeah.
I would do it.
I've actually messaged him to see if I can come on.
I think it would be good for podcast branding.
Right.
Yeah.
What are you sleeping on?
What's this guy's name?
I forget.
Brian.
I think Brian Atlas.
Yeah.
But you have had Sarah Stock on your show on your show.
I have.
And Elijah.
Yep.
Did you ever go on rift?
I did not.
No, that's up.
It's messed up.
They have Elijah on, and then they, and then they don't have you guys back on.
What the hell, Elijah?
I'm happy with that now.
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
That's good now.
Two and a half, three months, I think.
Would you call it a situationship?
Yeah.
You're also religious, correct?
Yeah, I'm a Christian.
Are you waiting until marriage?
Yep.
Have you always waited until marriage?
Yes.
You both are virgins.
Is that correct?
She told her husband or her fiancé, or they were married, so it's husband now, that she was a virgin when they got married and she was really hooking up with her boss who was married.
When was this?
This whatever episode?
I'd have to look it up.
Because she says she was single.
She was never famous, though, until she was hooking up with Elijah.
I don't know that I don't really understand the timeline on this because she did that jubilee.
Let's see.
I think I had her on like a year ago.
She did the Jubilee.
And then we had her on.
And then she got poached for the rift.
I think when I had her on, she was not yet on the rift.
I hate to be that guy, but isn't it possible that she was telling the truth here in this predated?
It is.
It is.
We should fact check that actually.
Because, well, Brian said, is she lying?
So let's see.
Whatever podcast, Sarah Stock.
It's not coming up on YouTube right away for me.
I hear you.
But yeah, that would be good.
It was like late February, I think, that she 2025 that the affair started.
So, yeah, that would be a good fact check.
You're right.
She could have, I suppose she could have been telling the truth there.
Good job, Rebecca.
The woman part of me wants to be, wants to feel bad for her.
I admit, I like don't want the clause to come out.
But I think that the reason people are latching onto this story isn't so much that she did this.
It's the misrepresentation of who she was as a Catholic.
And that's why people are really latching on to this.
People are generally not blaming Elijah because I think we all kind of knew he had had that sexual harassment scandal and all this other stuff.
And he's got some erratic posting.
And like he posted a picture of him, you know, topless, shirtless, but it was so low that he had to cover his junk.
Yeah, he's mogging.
What are you talking about?
And so I, so I think that everybody kind of knew like that this was going on.
I can't imagine that Elijah's wife was totally unaware of his sexual escapades, which obviously predates Sarah.
It's not like she was the only conquest that he had.
And a lot of this predates their marriage.
And so there, I don't want to like blame the wife, but there is some sort of buyer-beware situation here where it's like, why did you marry this guy?
Why would you do this?
Why would you have kids with this guy?
This guy's a disaster.
So in that way, I don't know.
All parties involved just, man, everybody took a big shit on this one.
So you can't deny, though, Elijah, Elijah pulls.
Elijah has aura, as the kids are saying these days.
He mogs, as they're saying.
I'm just messing.
I did this tweet during this, kind of like trolling a little bit because everybody's talking about Epstein having aura.
Yeah.
It's funny.
A lot of people thought it was funny, and then a lot of people were freaking out, like calling me gay and stuff.
It's just like, all right, dude, we're on the internet.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, he was supposed to, and this wasn't my idea.
I didn't reach out or anything, but somebody from his team, and he even DM'd me and was trying to have me do a debate with Joel Webbin, Yahweh's top Christ crusader, Joel Webb.
And he was trying to set up a big debate with me and Gnostic Informant and Webbin and one of his co-pastors or something.
And I thought that they got scared and cold feet and backed out or flaked or something, but it appears his life is just spiraling and crashing out.
And like Riff TV is probably going to be no more.
Man, I don't know.
I think if you would have talked to me a few years ago about this, that I would have had a more staunch position on it, been more fired up about it.
But I kind of just, it's hard to watch somebody's life unravel, even if it's their own fault.
I'm not getting the Schaudenfreud that I so desperately desire because this isn't really happening to like one of my avowed enemies.
And so I'm not really taking pleasure in any of this.
Yeah.
That's understandable.
It's, it takes a cool person to fall, but you know, you know what?
You do that all the time.
Yeah, it depends.
Well, they weren't like my total enemies either.
You know, like I trolled Sarah a little bit.
She never blocked me.
But one time she did say she posted some meme of a guy burning in hell.
And she goes, like, you pagan wig nats, Marvel comic book worshipers, you're going to burn in hell.
You know, you just want to sin.
And then that coming from the girl that's like a homewrecker and sleeping with a married man and lying to her fiancé is, you know, it's, it's a little vindication on your Christian morals.
They try to browbeat you with their Christian morals.
And it's not right.
I definitely, I understand that.
I mean, yeah, you have to, we were talking on the podcast yesterday.
Dave said something that was really insightful.
He's like, you, you have to radically integrate who you are into your online persona or eventually, uh, eventually people find out.
And I think that that's true.
Like if you meet any of us in the real world, we're doing what we say we do online and we're all pretty above board and we talk this way in our in our personal lives and everything like that.
And I think that anytime that you are behaving in a way that is in direct contradiction to the image that you're putting out, especially in this day and age, you are bound to get found out.
You're bound to get found out.
And like my thinking here is what didn't she have some kind of imposter syndrome about what she was saying and her conduct?
I have to imagine that she did, which means that she was making a decision to pump up like what she wanted to be or what people wanted to see her as rather than reflect on her own sin.
And that is a problem.
Yeah, it seems to be like a reoccurring theme, though, of like Christians pretending to be holier than thou and browbeating everybody about you're going to hell and you don't have morals.
And then, you know, crazy scandals come out about them.
It's kind of, it's been a meme for quite a while.
So people need to just keep that in the back of their mind when they see all that going on.
Oh, yeah.
I would never do something like this because based on the church's standards, if I died in this moment, I would definitely go to hell for sure because I'm in a state of grave sin because I haven't been to church in a while.
And I haven't been to confession in even longer.
I'm never going to tell somebody that they're going to hell because I too am going to hell right now.
I made a little stupid AI of me going to hell yesterday for my book.
Let's do it.
But, you know, you're totally right about everybody kind of giving Elijah a pass because he never claimed to be.
He always said he was struggling.
He's always said he's a bad sinner and that he's trying to find Jesus or he's trying.
You know, he definitely seemed to really spiral.
And when all of this was unfolding and the divorce, that he started posting a whole lot more about like, I'm reading the Bible every morning and you pray for me.
And, you know, I'm trying to become a serious Christian.
He started.
Did you see what Milo wrote?
He wrote, like, he started wearing an oversized cross, necklace, oversized Christian jewelry, he said.
Dude, I hope I never get on Milo's bad side, man.
Dude, Milo is ruthless.
I'm scared of Milo.
I don't have anything to be scared about, but like, even if, even if there was nothing, I feel like he could just like ruin my life, you know?
Yeah.
Even if he had no dirt.
Just his writing, too.
Like, the dude is, the dude's like a movie villain or almost or hero, depends on how you see it.
Because he has taken, like, exposed a lot of things that I've appreciated, you know, in people, personalities.
Yeah, I fear him deeply.
So, Milo, no issues.
No issues, Milo.
We're cool.
We're cool.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I finally found it.
Here it is.
I was searching forever.
This is what Christians think will happen if they read my book.
I've been having so much fun with these.
The Jesus deception available on Amazon.
Straight to hell if you read the book.
No questions allowed.
Yeah.
That's another thing that's one of the reasons that I know that I have doubt because if I truly believed that I was going to hell for being in a state of mortal sin, I would be on my way to confession immediately.
I'd be going to church every Sunday.
Yet I don't, which means that I must have an issue in my faith, right?
And I mean, obviously, if I really believed that, then I would be so stricken with fear.
Right.
If Sarah Stock really believed it, I don't think she would have been.
Yeah, I'm, yeah, I know.
I don't, I don't, I hate to sound the point I'm making is a lot of people wouldn't do a lot of things if they really did believe, right?
All the gripers that are like, you know, saying nasty things about everybody on the line online all the time, like not very Christian-like or Jesus-like, if they really believed, I don't think they'd act like that.
I do love the Christian perspective on why we sin.
And from a broader perspective, I don't have enough faith in the average individual to have a developed moral framework in the absence of something external.
I think that we do this.
Pegans do this a lot.
Libertarians do this a lot.
They project their white high IQ and ability to adopt a rational framework for morality on stupid, sinful people.
And I just don't have faith in people like that.
So I have to admit that a lot of my Christianity is based on controlling the masses.
Noble lie.
Plato's noble lie.
It is a noble lie.
Well, that might actually be the right path.
I might be punching a wall here.
Any of us might be wrong.
I mean, there's so much that is mysterious about life and about faith and about God.
And I don't pretend to know any of these answers.
I mean, I'm a middle-aged mom from North Idaho.
Don't really know anything, but I am having the same struggles as other people.
So I wouldn't call them struggles.
I just call them using your discernment.
So, so you're not scared of hell, me neither.
That's just like a scare tactic to get you to believe in magical Jews, in my opinion.
A scare tactic to get you to worship the God of Israel.
Otherwise, you're eternally punished.
That's what that's what hell essentially is.
And that's all Satan is, I think, too.
Satan is needed to scare people into following the God of Israel.
He works, he was created by God.
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He works for God.
God doesn't destroy him.
It's like Tucker gets attacked by demons in his bed and he goes, and I woke up and I just wanted to read the Bible so much.
It's like the demons work for Jesus.
There's basically filling the pews.
That was a very good impression.
That was very good.
Like, really?
No, I am afraid of going to hell.
I am.
Yeah, I'd say I definitely Viking hell.
Would you rather be in heaven or Valhalla with all your ancestors?
Or extremely multiracial heaven?
Yeah, no.
Okay, she's a Viking, guys.
It can't happen.
Can't happen.
Heaven for me is not being amongst a bunch of minorities.
That sounds like hell to me.
Oh, my gosh.
But they're your brothers in Christ.
Yeah, you all came from Adam.
You see my problem here, bud.
There is no gotcha on this interview because I'm trying to work this out on my own right now.
Yeah, we're working it out.
A little bit.
Yeah, I know he was like a manosphere dude that became a monk.
Yes, he's an Orthodox.
I believe he's a monk.
He's just totally.
And one of the things that he did was he realized that he had engaged in a life of sin and he stopped profiting from that.
So he took all of his books off Amazon.
He stopped profiting in any way from all of the moral degeneracy that he had previously profited from.
And he told me one time, because before he went dark, we used to be pretty good friends.
He told me one time that it's legitimate to become Christian to find God because first you see the evil in the world.
And that's always stuck with me.
Everybody says that.
That is the talking point.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not a talking point, though, because we engaging in evil and recognizing evil in many ways is the same thing as recognizing good.
And that's how I came to the position that I'm in.
I mean, I was kind of apathetic about religion and then I saw the depths of Jewish evil.
And I was like, all right, that there must be some symmetry, some moral symmetry.
What do you think is the depths of Jude, like of, because like Jews are really kind of Judaism, right?
Their identity is completely intertwined with the religion, ethno-religion.
So what would you say is the worst part of Judaism?
Oh, gosh.
I mean, outside of the sanctioned pedophilia, murder, you know, all of these, these horrible sins, I think that Judaism, it's a representation and a deification of the most carnal and base human desires, which to Christians' credit, I believe they try to supplant as much as they possibly can.
Now, they're not always successful, as we've seen in the saga with Elijah and Sarah.
I mean, people give in a temptation all the time, and it is a failing of all mankind.
A pillar of their morality.
And that's so dysfunctional.
It's such a dysfunctional understanding of the world and of humanity that I truly abhor it.
But outside of that, I mean, their philosophy that there are rankings of species and the goyam are a sub-species that they can basically do anything to.
That I find so I find that so detestable.
So, the idea of the chosen people, basically, that's that's the worst part that they're chosen and God's special people and they're the nation of priests, right?
Right, which is they're meant to lead the world with their morals, yeah.
That's such an affront to my sensibilities, too, because somebody that's rational can like look at your average hunched over, snaggle-toothed, hook-nosed Jew and be like, cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.
No, but but don't you look at Jewish people sometimes and like you're the chosen people?
Like, wouldn't you look like the Swedes?
I've seen, I just mentioned that meme the other day.
Uh, I think somebody super chatted in.
It's like the super hot blonde girl and then like some ugly Jewish girl.
And it's like, who do you think is chosen?
But in all fairness, yeah, oh, yeah, that's a long time.
In all fairness, though, like, you could do the same thing.
You could find a pretty Jewish girl and then a super ugly white girl also and put those together.
Yeah, but I just, I just look at this.
Uh, and something that the Christians don't talk about, the pagans do, which is appealing to me, is the genetic component of Judaism because it's not.
What are you talking about?
They always say it's genetic.
Pagans don't say Jews aren't genetic, like they're not.
Pagans talk about it, and Christians.
Oh, and Christians don't.
Yeah, they go if they believe in Jesus, if they, if they're dipped in the water, if they drink the blood, then they're now not Jews anymore.
That's what they say.
Because I have to look at some waspy guy that converts to Judaism for whatever reason.
Like, do I care about that guy?
Do I think he's a threat?
No, I don't care.
Do I think that guy's even Jewish?
No.
Do Jews think that guy is Jewish?
Also, no.
So, the genetic component is very important to me.
Speaking of thinking Jewish, like, have you seen the clips we've been posting?
We've been finding where Nick, Nick Fuentes is like, Yeah, a Jew created the world.
And he goes, All the first Christians were Jews.
Or he says, His favorite Jew is Jesus.
Or he says, Christians are spiritual Jews.
Like, if you're, if it's important to recognize like Jews as like an ethno-religious group, like, is that how we win by trying to become Jews, by trying to out Jew the Jews to worship, like the Jewish Messiah that they rejected and their God?
That's how we win.
What do you think?
Think about that.
Oh, God, how do I get out of this?
How do I turn into something totally transparent to get out of this Nick Fuentes question?
Uh, you know, I'm sure you've experienced it.
It's not just him, it's not just him.
He's just, he's just honest about it and doesn't lie about these things.
This is just normal Christianity, though.
It's not exclusive to him.
I mean, how do I square that circle?
Just what do you think about it?
Because that's what I complain about all the time.
It's like you worship a Jew, you, you want, you think you're a spiritual Jew.
You want to be the true Israel.
Like, I'm not interested in being Israel.
I'd rather be some European city than Israel.
Um, I, man, I wish you were talking to somebody more knowledgeable on this because I've, I've had a lot of friends send me a lot of content about the Jewish genetic traits of Jesus, that he was not an Ashkenazi Jew.
I mean, can you expound on that a little bit?
There were no Ashkenazi Jews at that time.
I'm interested in Jesus is a myth, but he's definitely you can't be the Jewish Messiah.
The Jews can't reject their Messiah if the Messiah is not Jewish.
Yeah, but what about the genetic component?
They're not doing genetic tests on everybody back then.
It says he's a Judean, even though he's a mythical figure.
He's a Judean.
That's what the Jews are, Judeans.
The same word that this is so much Christian cope.
The same exact word, Iude and Iudeus, in the Greek, the original Greek, as the Jews that are killing Jesus, that salvation is of the Jews, and that Jesus is born a Jew.
It's all the same thing.
These Christians online.
He rejected Judaism.
No, he didn't.
He is the ultimate fulfillment of Judaism.
And the goal of Judaism was to be the light to the nations, and the law comes out from Zion.
And the Messiah, the Son of Man, conquers the nations, conquers the Goyam.
That's the purpose of Moshiach.
They're chanting, We want Moshiach now.
And the Christians are chanting, Christ is King.
That the creation of Christianity is for wide-scale subjugation of Goyam.
It's a fabrication from prophets about the God of Israel reigning over all the nations.
Like the water covers the sea, as it says.
All human flesh, all languages, every knee will bow.
That's the whole point of Judaism.
But why wouldn't it be a conversion instead of the faction of Christianity, or which is what Christians believe is the rejection of Judaism?
Why wouldn't there just be a mass conversion to Judaism?
Christianity and Islam are like a halfway conversion to Judaism.
They're both spin-offs of messianic apocalyptic sects that agree with the God of Abraham and agree with the stories of the Hebrew Torah.
So why even create something different?
I mean, if Jews are looking to conquer Goyam, shouldn't they want to do that spiritually?
They're meant to be.
Well, they did do it spiritually, and that's what all the rabbis say is that Jesus spiritually conquered the pagan gods and turned the nations toward the monotheistic God of Israel.
But why did they, everybody not just convert to Judaism?
Because they're meant to be kept separate.
The commandments in the 613 mitzvahs are only for Jews.
Circumcision and kosher food and observing Sabbath, those are only the Jews are supposed to keep those laws.
The Gentiles are only supposed to follow the seven Noahide laws, which there's actually like a proto-list of in Acts 15 in the New Testament.
And we got clip after clip of rabbis and Christians saying Christianity and Paul was bringing Noahide laws to the nations to conquer the pagan gods and worship the God of Israel.
So like that is the whole point of it.
Well, what about earlier Christian monarchs, Catholic monarchs like Isabel and Ferdinand that widely expelled Jews?
I mean, there must have been such a great fissure between the belief systems.
And this has happened all the time: the expulsion of the Jews.
Yeah, schisms, just like there's schisms within Christianity where they have wars against each other.
It's still, it's just two Jewish sects fighting over who the Messiah is.
If our central issue in our cosmic battle against the Jews is fighting over who the Messiah is, it's like we've already lost.
We're already playing their game.
We're already affirming and granting that they were chosen and their covenant's real and their prophets are real and their God is the one true God.
Like you're granting them all of that and fighting them in just like this confined, limited scope.
So do you see any future for white nationalist movements that are working in tandem despite this chasm that we have between our belief systems?
Do you think that it's even possible for pagans and Catholics to unite?
Goyam unite on, like I said earlier, on a lot of issues, but not on the religious question.
Well, yeah, there's never going to be.
I mean, everybody wants to convert.
Like, what does that mean to unite?
Am I not allowed to criticize the Bible and the Old Testament and the covenants?
If I say the covenant's not real and messianic prophecies are delusional, am I not uniting?
Am I not allowed to say that?
Are they going to stop saying Christ is king and every knee will bow and calling Jews, saying Jews, the absurd notion that they killed God as like our central talking point?
They're not going to give that up.
And we're not going to stop saying it's all fake and Jewish.
So I don't see how it seems like irreconcilable a little bit.
No, I understand that.
I mean, you and I can talk about it.
So there must be some faction of Catholics and of Christians that are not going to be highly offended by discussing these things, right?
And I think that there are a lot of pagans like that as well.
But do you think that we need each other as groups to move forward with white positive on the ground movements?
Because I do.
I think we need each other.
Well, that would be nice.
But if you're a true Christian, like you have to, if you're not putting Jesus first, like above your family, above your tribe, above your nation, if you're not putting Jesus above that, if you're teaming up with anti-Christian, anti-Christ, pagan idol worshipers, instead, just because they're of your race, you're not a real Christian and you're going to have all of real Christianity and all the churches and seminaries and major denominations all against you and working hard to stop you.
Like the reason you get so much extra pushback from Christians is because they're like, they're doing these bad things in the name of Christ.
So they feel like it's their obligation to like wage war against you and stop all your anti-Semitism or your racism.
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So I think it's a lost cause.
And I don't, and I don't see it working.
Told you what?
Everything you just said, Beardson told me the same thing.
Well, he's right.
He's then I guess he's right.
What am I going to do?
Choose a side, Blonde.
It seems like you should let your husband choose the side.
And I'm going to send him a free copy of my book.
Oh, man.
I'm in trouble.
But these conversations are how I work these things out for my own philosophies and my own belief system.
So, you know, I'm not opposed to it.
I'm not, I'm not dogmatic.
So you were raised Catholic?
Are you a cradle Catholic?
I was not Catholic.
And then my family became Catholic when I was about 12 or 13.
And then I just stopped going to church until I started, let's see, when I was pregnant with my first child.
So that was like six years ago.
And then I started going back to church.
I think I went to church more years of my life than you then.
Yeah.
All right.
So it was Catholic.
Catholic position.
I'm not, I'm not the.
No, no, I'm not asking for that.
So, so what's your biggest issue that like to that why you don't believe?
I don't know.
I mean, I have a hard time understanding the suffering of innocent people.
That's something that I get really hung up on.
Like when I see a friend and something terrible happens to the child or something terrible happens in pregnancies or people can't get pregnant, like people that really have been good and devout and honest and they're true believers.
I'm like, like, why?
And then I'll see other stories.
Are you familiar with this house of horrors that happened in Texas, I don't know, five years ago?
Wasn't there like a real old documentary about some Christian house of horror that scared the kids about hell?
Is that what it is?
About five years ago, when I was going back to church, this girl escaped from her home where there were 13 other children, her siblings.
And she could barely speak coherently because she and her siblings, age two from 29, had been chained up in this house.
They've been starved.
They were living in filth.
They were getting beat.
It was just a nightmare.
And they couldn't talk because they had never interacted with anybody from the outside world.
So, like, I saw something like this happen.
And then I've got friends who are lifelong Christians.
They've only been with each other and they can't have a baby.
And I'm like, is you know, the realization that there's no fairness and justice in this world, that is a very painful thing for me to try to understand through Christianity and without Christianity.
So a lot of Christians, a lot of Christians are able to square this circle.
But I feel like if God is omnipotent, he's omnipresent, and he has control over the world, then is he responsible for human suffering that's that's doled out so unjustly.
Like how many pieces of shit people succeed in life and then die in their sleep comfortably when they're 95.
Tons and tons of people.
And it's that thirst for justice in this world that makes me have a real problem with my religious philosophies and trying to understand that.
And I know a lot of Catholics and a lot of Christians that their faith helps them understand human suffering.
But for me, it's an impediment.
And I don't know, maybe there's something wrong with me.
Maybe I don't know enough about no, no, no, no.
And lots of people come to that, what you're saying, right?
That's like one of the best arguments against God, actually, is the problem of evil for a long time.
And Christians act like, oh, well, it's free will, but like that doesn't explain it at all.
There's many issues with that also.
Children, especially.
Yeah.
Nothing that they did.
And so I'll hear sometimes like, well, or animals too.
And not just children, but animals.
Like, you know, some innocent little, little bunny gets eaten alive by a wolf.
Like, God couldn't have come up with a better system.
Oh, we're in a fallen world.
This is what this is the cope, too.
These Christians will say, oh, well, before the fall, no animals ate each other.
You know, they were all vegan sharks and lions with their huge, huge fangs were eating grass, right?
That type of thing.
Yeah, I have a really, really hard time with that.
And I think about that a lot.
And I also know that I don't like uncertainty.
It's a fault in my personality.
Like, I have a really hard time with uncertainty.
And I know that even though I'm going to be on a faith quest my entire life, I'm never going to get any answers to these things.
And that's really painful.
And I think it's really unfair.
I think the human condition is really difficult.
Are you going to hold up your book?
No, no.
I've been on the faith quest before, and Jesus is at the bottom of it.
A Jew is at the bottom of the I was going to say, okay, about that, the problem of evil.
Oh, I want to ask you, what about like Genesis versus evolution?
Where you at on that?
I mean, I believe in microevolution.
I think you have to.
Survival of the fittest is demonstrably true.
It's obvious that that has to happen within any species for the fittest of any species to survive.
I think that nobody can really argue against that meaningfully.
As far as creation is concerned, I have less of a problem with that from a rational standpoint.
Like, I think that the creation of the universe makes sense to me because you always get back to that origin point of nothing comes from nothing.
And so a creation story, that's something I can buy into, right?
I don't think nothing comes from nothing, though.
I think it just always existed instead of because you have to say God comes from nothing, right?
Or in Genesis, Genesis story, creationism is saying something comes from nothing.
It's saying nothing existed except God, except God.
And he just like, how did I, how did, how did man was created by God?
It says he created him from dirt and breathed air into his breath life into his nostrils.
Like, it's not even explanation.
It's like a, it's like a magic hocus pocus.
It just came to be, you know.
But it might be written, and the way I've always interpreted these biblical verses, this might have been a story so that people could understand it.
It doesn't necessarily mean that the creation story is true as it is written biblically, but it's the same logic saying the universe has always existed and God has always existed.
I mean, that doesn't represent a logical fallacy from either side.
No, I think it does because if you say nothing can come from nothing except God, you're creating a rule and then breaking it.
Where I'm saying, I'm not claiming nothing came from nothing.
I'm just saying the universe is always existed and it's eternal and it goes on forever.
Okay, we're getting very heavy now with that.
Hold on, you mentioned these are questions that I need to answer for myself.
And like, I need to hear different perspectives on it, or I'm never going to reach any personal conclusions before I die.
So I'm definitely open to hearing everything that you have to say about this.
You will definitely reach conclusions before you die.
Don't say that.
Okay.
No, I said, I don't think I ever will.
It's just going to be a lifelong struggle session.
Indecisive.
Yeah.
I mean, because I don't know.
And that's something that is the earth flat?
I don't think so.
No.
Oh, so you can come to that conclusion, but not.
Okay.
How about this?
Microevolution.
Unanswerable questions.
Microevolution is just the same function as microevolution.
It's just on a larger time scale, more time in between.
I just don't think it's possible.
I mean, do you believe in the existence of the soul?
I don't think anything goes on after you die.
No.
But do you believe that humans are endowed?
Let's take the Christian God out of it, but they're endowed with a supernatural sense of self and understanding that does not exist within any other species.
Well, we have the most developed and advanced brain, so we have it on a higher level.
But I do think other species, you could say they have personality, they suffer, they feel pain, they dream, they do all types of stuff just on a little bit less than we do.
Self-actualization.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I'd have to look into it if any species have a sense of ego, I guess, self.
I'm pretty sure they do studies, like put apes in front of mirrors and like if they can figure out if that's them or something.
I don't know.
I'd have to look into it a little more, but I don't think that there's on the evolution, the macro.
Sorry, the delay is making me keep talking over you.
I would never that's where I get hung up on the macroevolution question because within the context of evolution, you max out at the apex where your biological processes are maximized for survival.
But we've gone so much further beyond that.
It's not just like increased intelligence.
It's this rational ability to try to understand not just the world, but the universe and to try to understand a creator and to understand ourselves in our interpersonal relationships on like a global level.
It's just so much more.
It's so much more than any other species.
It's like the difference is like the difference between ants and humans, you know.
Whales are pretty, pretty smart, they say.
Smarter than we know.
They communicate real crazy and stuff too, and have very strong family bonding and stuff.
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You know, I want to correct because we're honest aren't here, always honest.
You know, I have to keep a clean karma.
Chat says that she was on whatever podcast before the February hookup with Elijah.
Oh, so we don't know that this was a lie.
We don't know that there's a good chance it was.
If she's lying about everything else, she's probably lying about this too and not a virgin.
But she at least wasn't hooking up with Elijah at this point.
So, oh my gosh.
Sarah, if you watch this, sorry for that.
I hope that she's not watching anything.
I mean, I don't know.
Being on blast in a public sphere, irrespective of the morality of what you've done, I'm sure it fucking sucks.
It sucks a lot.
We've all kind of had like a smaller scale getting on getting blasted on the internet for whatever reason.
But this, I don't know how.
I can't even fathom how I would be dealing with this.
Oh, she's walking away.
She must be walking away.
Deactivating, probably trying to work it out with her husband.
Yeah.
What she should have done anyway.
If she was truly Chad, she would trad.
Chad.
Yeah.
I mean, traditionalism, this is why I never called myself Trad, like ever, because I was like, this is not kind of fly.
Traditionalism, in the sense that people, that people view it, like in our sphere, it's so performative and it's not real.
Like a truly traditional woman, she's not, you know, making sourdough bread in these videos for the, for the internet or whatever.
She's at home raising her many, many, many children and she's tired and she looks like shit.
And, you know, like when we think of traditionalism, it's just this performative 1950s thing that chicks are doing online for clout.
And that image needs to be destroyed.
Like it doesn't exist in the way that people want to portray it.
So I never called myself Trad.
I got married when I was like 29 or 30 and I only have two kids.
And, you know, I used to drink all the time and girl boss.
And so I was never going to ever try to portray myself as though I was this traditional woman, but I am like a lot of other women.
And I think it really behooves all of us to be honest about how we've navigated an immoral world and tried to come to some semblance of personal morality.
And that's the story that people want to know.
They don't want to see that like you've never done anything wrong or you're a super good person and everybody else is going to hell.
They want to know that you found a way to make sense of the world and of Judaism and of the evils that we're dealing with.
And I think that that is a story that needs to be told.
So with the Epstein happening, and we're seeing so much of this, like a bunch of big influencers, I'm seeing Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Candace.
Everybody's, it's always saying it's a spiritual war.
Like the people that run the world, they're Frankists, they're reptilians, they're fallen angels, they're gypsies, they're pagans, they're what else?
Secret occult Nazis.
There's all these different theories, right?
Demons, they're actually demons and interdimensional beings that are feeding off our negative vibrations.
I say all this as a joke, but this like is like the dominant narrative that we're seeing on the right a lot these days, right?
What's your take on all that?
Do you think it's secret, baby eating, like literal demons running the world?
Or what do you think is going on here?
Well, I think that we have the average person underestimates the depths of evil that these people are engaging in.
I think that that's true.
Do I think that it's like a baby eating, ritualistic, satanic cult?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I don't want to say no, but there is, there's obviously an like a really dark element of evil that most people just can't wrap their minds.
Can it be Judaism?
Yeah.
I think that you're right about that.
People aren't ready to hear it, though.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, Christians aren't ready to hear it because Christianity comes from Judaism because they're worshiping the God of Judaism and believing that the people are not ready to hear this either, I think.
Oh, well, they need to get ready.
You're right.
The atheist community has been gaytheist gatekeepers because that's the atheist on Judaism and criticizing Christianity and Islam primarily and a lot of times for the wrong reasons or not going far enough.
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Like there's a lot of gatekeeping and apologetics over there as well.
Yeah.
Certainly.
But like I see Candace Owens and she's like, they're not Jews.
They're fake Jews.
They're Khazarians.
They're really worth they're Baal worshipers.
They're Moloch worshipers.
It's like, first of all, we already know like the institutions of power, the people, the names, the companies, the organizations.
But like, why invent imaginary, secret, hidden ones that you could never defeat or even pinpoint when we could address the ones we know actually exist?
That's what I take issue with it.
I understand that.
There is a semblance of truth to that, though.
And that has been evidenced by the Epstein files, which is how deeply interconnected these world organizations are.
Like he has billionaire technocrats in his emails.
He's got Bill Gates.
He's got Elon Musk.
He has Howard Luttnick, John Bolton.
He has Prince Andrew.
He's got these, it's just incredible the reach and the power.
And I think we need to be thinking about it in terms of logistics.
Like, how did he amass this power?
He did it in ways, in earthly ways.
He did it by blackmailing people, by appealing to their base instincts.
By Jewish billionaires giving him billions of dollars or making it seem like he had billions of dollars.
It's not hard to make friends when you're a billionaire.
It's not hard to, yeah.
And it was like a pyramid scheme of moral degeneracy.
And that's how he did it.
I mean, he didn't like invoke the demon spirits to make this happen.
He did it one dollar at a time, one blackmail tape at a time.
He would turn people.
He would turn people.
And then you get this social credibility, right?
Where because you know this person, you're connected to this person now.
It's social proof.
And that's how he was able to do this.
Like once he got one person in his camp, one billionaire in his camp, he was able to get his Jewish tentacles out there and get it in everybody else and then control all of these people.
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Right.
So real world, real world, nothing magic.
He wasn't eating babies and it gave him magical powers that he could, you know, spacewalk.
I don't even know.
They never say like, oh, they do all these things and it gives him magic powers.
Like, where's the magic, though?
We see these guys' email.
There's no magic in these emails.
No, no.
There's no superpowers.
Yeah.
There's, there's nothing really supernatural about Epstein.
And that's another thing that I really hate.
When we say that there's a supernatural element to this evil, we are deifying it.
We're deifying Judaism.
Elevating it to like a supernatural.
It's like demoralizing.
What can you do to defeat the demons and the magical wizards and witches?
But, oh, you just got to believe in Jesus and pray to Jesus and have faith and trust the plan.
Like that's the reality.
Exactly.
That's where everybody's stuck in with this.
It's spiritual warfare and the Bible is real.
I watched Candace on her show the other day.
She has 2 million views on it.
And she was like, well, sure, Epstein is a satanic pedophile, a ball worshiper, and sure, then fallen angels and all this, you know, evil runs everything.
But she's like, but it's a good thing because the Bible's real and we're going to be okay.
And Jesus is going to save us.
So I say the same thing about like the Antichrist.
Like, what's the best case scenario to Christians that the Jews usher in their Antichrist and like dominate the world and persecute the church?
And then Jesus comes and saves you from a cloud.
Like, that's not a realistic plan.
Yeah, I think that the destruction of the world is going to be by our own hands.
Like nuclear war?
Well, that's the other thing.
Oh, Gog and Magog, Armageddon.
It's written.
It has to happen.
It's the prophecy, right?
Yeah, no, I think it's going to be something that we're responsible for as irresponsible humans.
I was listening to some podcast the other day and they were talking about the potential for world destruction based on a single nuclear accident.
Just an accident.
And I was like, that has somehow never occurred to me.
I always thought it would be a choice, but an accident.
We could destroy our own world with an accident.
That makes me concerned.
I mean, we've seen lab leaks.
We've seen all sorts of nuclear reactor meltdowns.
Like, we are not a responsible species.
So I'm worried about that.
Yeah, some bio-plague that leaks out and kills everybody, like a sci-fi dystopian movie or something.
Yeah.
Guys, I'm doing the power chat link.
We're going to go to the power chats in just a second.
If there's anything disrespectful, I'm going to be really mad, by the way.
You guys are all going to be nice to our guests.
I haven't seen any of that.
I'm just, I'm just warning you all.
That's okay.
I can take it.
I've been on the internet for 10 years.
I've never seen crazy hate or rumor, like squeaky clean and got off pretty easy.
I know you've had a little bit of tiffs and dramas with like past co-workers and stuff, but compared to me, like every time you go on a show or post everywhere, it's not full of like hating, seething trolls like lying about you and calling you Jewish.
Do you get called Jewish or are you just too clearly before?
But I knew my physiognomy is so squeaky.
Rebecca, Rebecca.
Okay, Jewish name.
Yeah.
Yeah, put it in the parentheses.
Uh-oh.
She can handle the crazies.
Okay, well, let her have it then, guys, but I don't think anybody's going to.
No, please don't.
I am but a woman.
No, we'll show her.
We'll show her how to really treat a lady with the pagans, not these women hating Christ incels.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, let me just turn those on and then we'll play this clip.
I want to play you of Jared Taylor and Joel Webb and get your last take on that.
What's that?
Oh, geez.
Jared and Joel.
Yeah, yeah.
Great, great combo.
He has Kevin McDonald on right now, too.
So that's pretty cool, at least.
All right, let's go.
We're turning him on.
Powerchat.live/slash no more news.
Link in the description below.
We had it turned off the whole time so we could chat and not interrupt.
Let's hear this will pop on in just a second.
I hope you'll be able to hear it.
There we go.
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Appreciate you, ABX.
...of effort you had to put.
I bought your book through your website.
I'm excited to read it.
Dude, get him on Amazon now, guys.
I'm back ordered.
They sold way more than I thought.
I'd need to get another bulk order.
$1.
Heaven, if it wouldn't be heaven, right?
She said that.
Wouldn't be heaven if all your family and ancestors are burning in hell.
Great guest, Adam.
Wish you great success with the book.
Also, there's great diversity within the screen pillars.
Atheists, pagans, deists.
I'm deeply religious.
You know, I'm devoutly Zoroastrian.
Dude, we're number one on a bunch of categories.
Thanks to Blonde's endorsement.
This is a joke she hasn't endorsed.
She hasn't read it.
She can't endorse it.
But thanks to Blonde number one best-selling author on Judaism.
I've heard your book from Pro-White Christianity Goes Against the Great Commission to go share the gospel with the nations.
Yeah, you're never going to square that, Peg.
Square that circle.
We assume these people were blackmailed instead of just practicing their Canaanite culture.
Right.
Or they're just degenerates.
Max McDonald sent $10 in Blonde's view.
Was Sarah Stock better of sticking with race stuff and not religion?
Once someone spouts religion, it seems the internet goes deep diving for skeletons.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, definitely.
Real Vision sent $10 on Rumble.
Wish more Christians were like her and we'd be good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wish more Christians were not Christian.
Wonderful-based woman.
Read Adam's book.
I will.
I will.
She's a mom and taking care of kids.
She doesn't have time to read a book, guys.
can just take my word for it.
Best of luck on your spiritual journey.
You are an authentic soul and that's your superpower.
Let the authenticity guide you.
Well said.
Thank you.
I really scared him to be nice, huh?
You simps.
Oh, simps.
Yeah, the good one.
Anonymous sent $5 for every question about this country's future.
Americanism is the answer.
Okay, Dugan.
Not Christian nationalism.
Americanism.
Americans are a distinct white ethnicity and culture.
Americanism.
Not when half of America hates America, that's I don't know how that's going to work.
It's just not enough.
I don't know how this is going to.
Oh, was there that first question, too?
Let's let me pull that up.
What did it say?
Derek Jensen?
Yeah, I didn't know who that was.
And it's like, hey, don't be super chatting her to have other guests on the show.
You should say, have me on the show if you're going to be shilling anybody.
Okay, come on.
You're always welcome.
Let's have some etiquette here.
I'm just joking.
Let me look.
I'm not sure.
Do you believe in aliens, Blonde?
I do not, but if it happened, I wouldn't be shocked.
I've got no answers for you, Adam.
I don't know any.
Not till the day you die, you're going to figure anything out.
Yeah.
Can you ask Derek Jensen to come on Deep Green Ecology?
The dissident right.
Deep green ecology.
I have no idea.
Stephen Greer is also an aliens guy.
Oh, John Michael Greer is what it said.
Oh.
John Michael Greer.
This is from Brewmaster Monk.
Druid, American writer, environmentalist occult.
He looks real scary.
Like a little bit of a crazy person.
Oh, that's not on the screen.
Hold on.
And I don't judge a book by its cover, but so this guy's going to tell me about druidism.
Yeah.
Send me a link or I'll look him up.
The secret temple.
I'll take a look.
Adam, what kind of music do you listen to?
Audible books.
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Just tuned in.
Congrats on the book, Adam.
Is Blonde going to host Adam versus Beardson Beards Oy Debate slash Bloodsports on her show?
No, he's not even allowed to talk to me because he will burn in hell.
He cannot platform demons in Antichrist.
So mean.
I was like, am I going to start crying during this interview?
And I didn't.
And I was so proud of myself.
Yeah, this guy's like, he's a blasphemer.
He's going to burn in hell.
It's like, calling somebody a blasphemer is like asking to burn them at the stake, pretty much.
The penalty, according to Yahweh, for blasphemy is death.
And like, you've been like a scumbag degenerate your whole life.
And you're going to, you've been a Catholic for five minutes and you're going to start lecturing me about I'm a bad person because I don't believe in magical Jews.
My host sent $10 on Rumble.
Respect to Blonde for being open-minded and not letting a fake bearded wannabe Viking keep you from coming to this side for the afternoon.
Real men like Adam, we don't corner women about their beliefs.
I've been cornering the whole video.
What do you mean?
Yes, we do.
All we do is corner women.
Women are meant to be cornered, guys.
There is some truth to that.
Yeah.
There is.
Okay.
Check this out.
Did you see this one yet?
This is a banger clip.
You've interviewed Jared over the years.
Yeah.
Right.
And Joel.
Yeah.
Look at what he does to Joel right here.
Walks him right into the trap.
This is getting cornered.
Speaking of getting cornered, Webben gets body slammed right now.
I don't even know if he knows that.
You would call yourself a Christian nationalist.
Am I correct?
Yes, sir.
Yes.
And if you don't mind, I'd be curious to know what the implications of that are.
I gather you would take the position that people should serve in elective office or at least in offices of some kind of control or dominance only if they are Christian in your ideal state.
Is that correct?
I thought I turned that off.
I'd have a few different criteria for elected office, but also even for voting citizens.
So I don't think it could just necessarily requires a black and white category of you're not a citizen at all.
You have zero provisions or you're a citizen.
So I think there could be tears.
But in terms of like a full citizenship with voting rights, I would not only want Christians, those who made a profession of faith as a requirement for office, but even a requirement for voting.
I would say that a Clarence Thomas, for instance, who I think is right now one of the best of the Supreme Court justices.
However, I admit that the bar is fairly low for that.
But I would look at someone like that and say, if you are a heritage black, right?
So not a Nigerian who came here last week, not a Haitian, but a heritage black and qualified, you are intelligent, articulate, and Christian and married, and X, all my other qualifications, net positive, then I would say that someone like that would be able to vote.
So a black like Thomas would be a full-fledged citizen and voter, whereas a white person who was not a professed Christian would not be.
In my conception of Christian nationalism, much to your chagrin?
Yes, my answer would be yes.
No, This is what you think white nationalists are going to team up with?
He says he wants blasphemy to be, you're not a Christian.
Doesn't matter what race you are.
You're not a citizen.
You can't vote.
You can't hold office.
He also says, when he was on your guys' show, it pissed me off.
He was like, I think you asked him a question.
You asked him, you were like, what do you think about the pagans and like that in the movement?
And he was like, well, if you don't, there's nothing more Jewish than rejecting Jesus.
So he's going to call us Jews because we don't believe in the king of the Jews.
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They can't keep doing that.
Like, it's just so played out and stupid.
And then they're saying stuff like that.
Where we all unite.
We get together to defeat the Jews and then we sort this all out.
He worships the Jewish God and affirms their prophets.
Just ignore it.
It's fine.
He's like the whipping bag.
He's never going to.
Have you seen his church?
It's like non-existent.
These guys all get thrown out of their churches if they try to go to any real church.
Like they're, they're just the villain and the boogeyman that discredit opposition.
They're not going to overcome anything.
They're just going to play the boogeyman.
And then they're saying subversive, divisive stuff like that all the time.
Anyway, I want to, he just, he has a best-selling book out called the hyphenated heresy about Judeo-Christian.
And I got the best-selling anti-Jesus book out.
So I want to debate.
I've been trying to set it up on many different podcasts.
World War Debates, Elijah Schaefer Show, Jake.
Now I'll challenge him to do it on the backlash too.
Stop running.
No.
I thought I saw a promo for The Rift.
Am I wrong?
They were, no, there was no promo, but they were supposedly trying to set it up.
They were trying to set it up.
Adam, do you think I'm on a fool's errand?
No, I think you know exactly what you're doing.
You're on the right path.
I think you're smarter than you're letting on with this whole thing.
I think you know exactly what you're doing.
Well, don't overestimate my intellectual faculties.
Never, never.
All right.
I did tell you hour to an hour 15, and I know you got you got a busy lady and you got kids to take care of and stuff.
Did you want to do any plugs or anything else on your mind going on that you wanted to get out the tip of your tongue?
No, that was really fun.
Thank you for not being contentious and for exploring my ideas.
And I appreciate everything you said.
And I really will take it to heart and I will read your book.
I am Rebecca Hargraves.
You can find me on my YouTube channel, Blonde and the Belly of the Beast.
I host a podcast called The Backlash.
This is our YouTube channel.
This is Rumble.
We're backlash podcasts on Rumble on YouTube.
We are at RealBacklash.
You can follow me on Twitter at blondes underscore tweets.
Occasionally, I have a good take.
But yeah, just follow me along this journey.
I know I'm not the only person that's going through this.
And I really appreciate that you were so nice, Adam.
Of course.
Happy to finally, finally do it.
I've been aware of you for many years on here.
When did you first start?
126,000 subs.
How long have you been doing?
How long?
When did your e-celeb career start?
About 10 years ago.
And then my podcast famously blew up my podcast, The Matt and Blonde Show, about a year and a half ago.
So that was my only online scandal.
And it wasn't huge.
Yeah, that was a W. Thank you.
That was ultimately a W, I think.
And a lot of people.
Yeah, I resorted to some nasty tactics on that one, but I was like, everyone needs to know that this guy's wife is Jewish.
And so I told some people.
That's all I did.
Just being honest and transparent.
Okay.
Well, all right.
The backlash, Rebecca Blonde in the Belly of the Beast.
Follow her everywhere, guys.
And appreciate you coming on.
It was actually your idea, just to set the record straight.
She said they're doing promotion for Backlash.
I probably told you a while ago to do a stream, but I say that to everybody and then just procrastinate.
So if anybody else out there is offended or anything, that's what I do.
Yeah.
No, it was great.
Thank you so much, Adam.
All right, cool.
Thanks.
And I encourage you on your journey, and we will talk again soon.