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	What's up, guys?
	Adam Green here with no more news.
	It is Monday, August 8th.
	I'm sorry, August 28th, 2023.
	Got a very important show for you guys today.
	One that I've been teasing for quite a while.
	Today we're going to be exposing, doing a deep dive into the mythical Midrashic origins of Jesus and Christianity.
	We're going to review the Melchizedek Scroll, which is a Dead Sea scroll pesher that shows the type of Kabbalistic, esoteric exegesis that Jews were doing back then, where they derived the Jesus narrative.
	And we're going to show some excerpts from a few books, Jewish Gospels, Richard Carrier.
	We're going to show how the Melchizedek Scroll and other Dead Sea Scrolls show that Christianity is not true, not original, and just an inevitable evolution of what was already going on.
	And then we're going to get into the disgraceful attacks on top mythicist scholar, Dr. Richard Carrier.
	There is a whole mob of angry, triggered trolls gatekeeping and attacking him viriently, trying to undermine him and smear him in any way.
	Yeah, straw man, attack his credentials, all of these things, suppressing that Jesus is a myth.
	So it's going to be a good one.
	Let's get right into it.
	This is from a chapter in top Talmudic rabbinical scholar Daniel Boyerin's suffering Christ as a Midrash.
	Listen closely.
	Again, the primary mode of early Jewish biblical exegesis is Midrash.
	The primary mode of Second Temple and still going on till today is Midrash.
	And they're going to explain what that is.
	It's basically creating a fan fiction, picking and choosing different verses that are related or not related or context or out of context to create a new narrative about mysteries revealed from the scriptures hidden by God.
	It's like Kabbalistic fan fiction reading of the Hebrew scriptures.
	Which is the concatenation of related or even seemingly unrelated passages and verses from all over the Bible to derive new lessons and narratives.
	It is Midrash that we see at work here.
	Narratives, lessons, and narratives.
	That's where they got the Jesus narrative.
	Here, too.
	The association of these prophetic texts with the Son of Man from Daniel is precisely what enabled the full development of a suffering Christology, according to which Jesus' demise and exaltation was interpreted.
	See, they interpreted what happened to Jesus, which started as an archangel, celestial, divine, pre-existing angel that, and they wanted to know the details of his life.
	Where did they go?
	They searched the scriptures for answers of what he said and what supposedly he did.
	Suffering Christology, according to this from books like Daniel 3, 6, 9, and 12, Isaiah 52, 53, and all over Isaiah, all over the Psalms, but especially from Psalms 2, 22, 23, 24, 110, and many more.
	From the wisdom of Solomon, chapter 2 and 5, from the songs of Solomon.
	These are all sacred scriptures to early Christians.
	This is where they derived the Jesus myth.
	You can pull the whole Jesus narrative.
	Even every little mundane details are found in the scriptures.
	Which Jesus' demise and exaltation was interpreted.
	In other words, it is as plausible to assume that Jews held this view of the vicarious suffering of the Messiah and his atoning death as predicted by the prophet Isaiah before Jesus' own suffering and death as it is to assume that Christians made it up after the fact.
	See, this is the big debate.
	The historicists say, oh, the only way that ancient Jews would believe in a suffering Messiah is because they believed Jesus was the Messiah.
	And he came and he was killed by the Romans, was crucified.
	So his followers had to, and then he apparently, they had visions, so they had to go look for the scriptures to prove that he was the Messiah, even though he died.
	This is very problematic.
	Number one, why would they so strongly believe he was the Messiah if he had no chance of conquering Rome militaristically?
	And you have to depend on him coming back.
	There was no miracles.
	There was no chance of defeating the Romans.
	There was no resurrection appearances.
	So where is this great inspiration from all of these things happening where they would go search the scriptures?
	This is what was going on beforehand.
	We have the proof that this is what was going on in Talmud stories that definitely predate Christianity in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
	This is what they were doing.
	Once again, we find a Jesus who sees himself, imagines himself, and presents himself as entirely fulfilling the messianic expectation already in place to the effect that the Son of Man must suffer many things.
	The Jews were expecting a Redeemer in the time of Jesus.
	Their own sufferings under Roman domination seemed so great, and this Redeemer had been predicted for them.
	Reading the book of Daniel closely, at least some Jews, those behind the first century similitudes of Enoch and those with Jesus, had concluded that the Redeemer would be a divine figure named the Son of Man, who would come to earth as a human, save the Jews from oppression, and rule the world as its sovereign.
	Rule the world.
	I say that their Messiah is about ruling the world, and I'm called an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist, but Daniel Boyerin, top Talmudic scholar, just admitted that's what the belief in the Messiah is, to rule the world, rule the Goyim, conquer the nations theologically, and subjugate the nations.
	Jesus seemed to many to fit that bill.
	His life and death were claimed to be precisely a fulfillment of what had been predicted of the Messiah, Son of Man, by the old books and traditions.
	What happened as that expectation of redemption was manned?
	He would not have anyone know it, for he was teaching his disciples, saying to them, The Son of Man will be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill him.
	And when he is killed, after three days, he will rise.
	But they did not understand the saying, and they were afraid to ask him.
	That this enmity will arise against the Messiah.
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	Can also clearly be derived by Midrashic Reading of the end of Daniel chapter 7 as well.
	And he will speak words against the Most High, and he will oppress the high holy ones.
	He will oppress the high holy ones.
	That's the Messiah character oppressing the Jews, like Christianity did.
	That's where they got it from a Midrashic reading.
	Also, the Midrash in the beginning of Daniel 12 uses the same word for the Messiah that they described later in the chapter, the one from Daniel 9 that is cut off and dies.
	He also arises in verse 1 of chapter 12 of Daniel.
	And they use the same word in the Septuagint arise that they use in Mark for the resurrection.
	And he will think to change the times and the law, and they will be delivered into his hand.
	He will change the times and the law, the time of the Gentiles, changing the law, saying that Christians and Gentiles don't need to observe the law of the commandments.
	It's all there.
	We're going to review it too.
	Two times and half a time.
	But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
	And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the most high.
	His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom.
	So did you hear that?
	The saints of the most high, that's the Jews, the nation of priests.
	And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the most high.
	His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
	All the Goyem will serve and obey him.
	That's the whole role of the Messiah.
	It's the big elephant in the room, the sacred cow, that all these biblical scholars and biblical critics just will not acknowledge that all of this is just about world domination, theological conquest.
	Those Jews who read the Son of Man in accord with the end of the chapter, Jesus.
	Okay, so Son of Man, now let's go review a little bit of Daniel 9.
	We have Daniel 9.
	This is the 70 weeks.
	Daniel 9 was a forgery written in 160 BC, claimed to be written way worse.
	It's this prophecy deception.
	They're saying things are prophecies that already happened.
	And then they know what time it was written because what they prophesized that was supposed to happen after didn't happen.
	So, and this is also, Daniel is trying to rehash a prophecy from Jeremiah that also didn't happen.
	So that's what the Christians were doing.
	This 70 weeks was a timetable, a prophetic messianic timetable that many Jews in the first century were expecting a messianic event because of this 70 weeks situation.
	And this is also interesting.
	It was calculated to be about 30 AD that this Messiah would be cut off and then the temple would be destroyed.
	And so historicists believe that coincidentally, this historical Jesus character just died at the same time that the Daniel, everybody believed the Daniel prophecy of the Messiah being cut off.
	No, that's not what happened.
	They knew the prophecies.
	They wrote it as a midrash and they dated it to line up with this prophecy.
	So we got reconciliation for iniquity.
	That's very similar to other phrases in Isaiah about atoning for sins.
	Seal up the vision of prophecy, fulfilling prophecy, and anoint the most holy.
	The Messiah, three score and two weeks, the Moshiach will be cut off.
	And the people of the prince shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary, the temple.
	And then there would be no more sacrifice.
	The sacrifices would cease.
	And the abominations he shall make desolate.
	So that's Daniel 9.
	Daniel 7, it also talks about this Son of Man character.
	The Son of Man coming with the clouds of heaven.
	The ancient days, he was given authority, glory, and sovereign power.
	All Goyim and peoples of every language worshipped him.
	And that is what Moshiach ben Joseph, the suffering servant, Jesus, was to do was conquer the nations like Joseph, learned the 70 languages of the 70 nations, and then rose, was rejected by his brothers, the shepherd, at the age 30, rejected by his brothers, and rules in Egypt over the Gentile empire from behind the throne.
	Exactly the archetype that they followed for Jesus, the Moshiach ben Joseph.
	And then you can see Daniel 7 from the Safaria.
	Dominion, glory, and kinship.
	All peoples and nations of every language must serve him.
	His dominion is an everlasting dominion that shall not pass away.
	And then the Rashi, the top commentary, a Jewish commentary, and he gave him dominion.
	And to that man, he gave dominion over the Goyam.
	For the heathens, he likens to beasts in Israel.
	He likens to a man because they are humble and innocent.
	The sovereign power, greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High.
	This kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.
	Daniel 2 also, those kings, God of heaven, will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
	It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
	So conquer all the nations.
	This is the role of the Messiah.
	This is what Jesus did also.
	And then Mark 8, Jesus predicts his death.
	He then began to teach them that the Son of Man, as we saw in Daniel 9.
	I'm sorry, Daniel 7, the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven.
	Jesus identifies or Mark identifies the Jesus character as this.
	The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders.
	It says elsewhere in Isaiah 53 that he'll be rejected as well.
	And the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.
	And they get the three days rise again from a midrashic reading again of Daniel, where it says two days and half a day or something like that.
	They interpreted that as three days.
	Mark 9.
	Then a cloud appeared and covered them and a voice came from the cloud.
	This is my son whom I love.
	Listen to him.
	Jesus gave them orders not to tell anyone that they had seen until the son of man had risen from the dead.
	Jesus replied, Why then is it written that the son of man must suffer much and be rejected?
	So this is what they believe, that there would be a suffering messiah.
	And it makes sense that they would come up with a spiritual victory and a suffering Messiah that would conquer the nations with the rod of his mouth, with his teachings.
	It's a the first coming of a Messiah is the spiritual Messiah, the soul of the Messiah.
	And then the second coming will be the military, victorious political leader.
	And if you think about it, aspirations in first century Judea that a military, victorious leader would come and conquer the emperor and the Romans was highly unlikely.
	That type of sect would get crushed.
	It would be a threat.
	It would be under scrutiny, But a pacifist, nonviolent, more subversive theological warfare Messiah targeting the Gentiles would work and did work.
	And that's what it was.
	So he says, why is it then written that the Son of Man must suffer and be rejected?
	And that's from Isaiah 53, the suffering servant, Isaiah 52 and 53.
	The servant, he took up our pain.
	I'm sorry, he was rejected.
	He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering and familiar with pain.
	He was despised and held in low esteem.
	He took up our pain and bore our suffering.
	He was pierced for our transgressions, like the pierced one in Zachariah.
	He was crushed for our iniquities.
	There is iniquities again.
	By his wounds, we were healed.
	So the atonement of the suffering servant.
	And then in Mark also, he says, you will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of the mighty one coming of the clouds of heaven.
	They all condemn him as worthy of death, then began to spit at him.
	They blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, quote, prophecy.
	So yeah, the Roman guards are chanting prophecy.
	No, this is just a midrashic story of the son of man who is cut off in Daniel and then arises after three days, all from a midrashic reading of Daniel, connecting that figure with Isaiah 52 and 53, which is very similar to Zechariah 3, 6, and 12, the one that is cut off and named Joshua, the branch, and the Messiah, the anointed one.
	Connect that very similarly with wisdom of Solomon, and you get the whole core story for the Jesus narrative straight from scriptures.
	They had all these scriptures in front of them.
	This is what they were doing for hundreds of years, searching, connecting different verses, trying to figure out the mysteries revealed by God.
	And this is how they created the Jesus deception, the mythical, fake prophecy fulfilling Jesus' deception.
	All right, back to Boyerin.
	Jesus' resurrection after three days, according to the Marken version, as opposed to the in three days of the later evangelists, could possibly derive as well from a close reading of the Daniel passage.
	For if Jesus' suffering before exaltation comes from the time, two times and half a time, during which the one, like a son of man, is to suffer in Daniel chapter 7.
	And if these times are understood as days, then Jesus would rise after a day, two more days, and part of a day.
	That is, after the third day.
	But this must remain a speculation.
	As it is written.
	And it's also speculated that the three days comes from Jonah in the whale from three days.
	And I want to say some other, like, really vague reference in Jeremiah.
	Concerning him.
	Mark chapter 9, verses 11 through 13.
	Jesus' story and his progressive self-revelation to his disciples return again and again to scripture and to midrash on that scripture.
	Mark chapter 9, verses 11 through 13 is the account of Jesus' conversation with his disciples after the transfiguration on the mountain.
	It thus represents a highly emphasized climactic moment in the story of the gospel and one that is particularly telling for Christology.
	This passage has puzzled most commentators till now.
	But we will hear that the text is best understood as part and parcel of a Jewish tradition of the suffering Messiah.
	Here are the verses in their necessary and immediate context.
	So this is the big debate.
	Did Jews believe, any Jews believe in the idea of a suffering Messiah before the supposed birth of Jesus?
	And the historicists and the Christians are so desperate to suppress the fact that Daniel Boyerin and many other scholars have exposed that it was definitely a pre-Christian belief in the suffering Messiah from a midrashic reading of Daniel 9 and all the other books I just mentioned.
	So they have to deny it.
	They have to say, oh, no, Jesus came and then he died.
	So then they came up with the story.
	Because if they came up with a story beforehand, it becomes clear that they were just writing a fictional story of this suffering Messiah.
	And again, there wasn't a Messiah.
	If there was a historical Jesus, he didn't do miracles.
	There was no chance he was going to defeat the Romans and he didn't resurrect.
	So all of these things that are required for the suffering Messiah to come after Jesus were not there.
	Following the transfiguration in which Moses, Elijah, and Jesus have been revealed to be close associates, at the very least, in a vision, as they were coming down the mountain, he ordered them to tell no one about what they had seen until after the Son of Man had risen from the dead.
	So they kept the matter to themselves, questioning what this rising from the dead could mean.
	And they asked him, saying, why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?
	And he said to them, Elijah, when he comes first, restores all things.
	And how has it been written of the Son of Man that he should suffer many things and be rejected?
	But I say to you that Elijah has come, and they did to him whatever they wanted, as has been written concerning him.
	As many commentators...
	As has been written concerning him, they give it away.
	When the word became flesh and dwelt among us, so the word, the prophecies became flesh.
	Like Paul says, as it is written in the scriptures, he got the revelations of Jesus from visions and from the scriptures.
	He never knew Jesus.
	And he says, have I also not seen the Lord to the other apostles and Christians that came before him?
	Probably the pillars, Cephas, Peter, James, James the Just.
	This was very likely a sect of Judaism, possibly associated with the Essenes that believed in this suffering Son of Man from Isaiah and Daniel, and that they saw Jesus the same way Paul did in the scriptures.
	As many commentators have written, this passage raises great difficulties.
	There is no record in the scriptures that Elijah would be mistreated.
	It may have been necessary that Jesus was so extreme.
	Okay, that's an important one, but I wanted to go back here to Daniel 7 now.
	Oops.
	So Daniel 7 talks about the clouds of heaven.
	Every time you look at the Jesus narrative and then go back to like the verses that it supposedly prophesied it and go read around the context every single time it's about conquering the Goyam.
	There's evidence everywhere.
	It would take me 24 hours to go through all the evidence in the Bible alone showing that Christianity is a deception to theologically conquer the world.
	So he will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people, the Jews, and try to change the set times and laws.
	So that's where they got the narrative for Jesus, that he would speak against the Jews.
	Then the sovereign, oh, hold on.
	The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times, and half a time.
	So two days and half A day.
	That's where they get the rise after three days.
	And then you go to Daniel 12.
	Like I said, at that time, Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise.
	And the same word they use for arise there in the Septuagint, the Greek translation, is what Mark uses to describe the resurrection.
	This is where they got the idea for the resurrection.
	It's a script that they wrote from the prophecies.
	It's easy to fulfill prophecies when you got the script in front of you, when you got the prophecies in front of you and you got a pen and a scroll.
	And you can see this is connected to the same Messiah right here about the abomination of desolation.
	It's 11 and the days, the timetable.
	So that's where they got the arised from also.
	Elsewhere also they go, oh, look, there's these themes that he's going to rise.
	Okay.
	It may have been necessary that Jesus was so extraordinary for such a compelling narrative of divine being and function to have developed, but it was hardly sufficient.
	Even more so, the notion that some kind of experience of the risen Christ preceded and gave rise to the idea that he would rise seems to me so unlikely as to be incredible.
	Exactly.
	That's such an important point.
	So if there was a real historical Jesus and he had some followers that started coping, and then it would require, in order to, for the theory that they went and searching for scriptures to prove he was the Messiah and that the Messiah would suffer, that would require a supernatural event that he rose from the dead.
	It's much more likely that this is all mythical midrash and that they just expected the Messiah to die and rise from the dead after three days from this close reading of Daniel.
	And then the skeptics, the historicists will say, oh, well, that's out of context.
	That's out of context.
	Yeah, that's what the ancient Jews were doing.
	They don't care about context.
	That's what Midrash is.
	They reinterpret it and ignore the context and reinterpret it for their day.
	Perhaps his followers saw him arisen, but surely this must be because they had a narrative that led them to expect such appearances and not that the appearances gave rise to the narrative.
	If anything, they were already expecting a Messiah rising from the dead because of the midrash, not because it really happened, because it didn't really happen.
	Do the historicist atheists have to argue for a miracle or a mass delusion in order for their argument to work.
	An alternative account such as I have given here seems much more likely to make historical sense.
	People had been for centuries talking about, thinking about, and reading about a new king, a son of David, who would come to redeem them from Seleucid and then Roman oppression.
	And they had come to think of that king as a second, younger divine figure on the basis of the book of Daniel's reflection of that very ancient tradition.
	So details of his life, his prerogatives, his powers, and even his suffering and death before triumph are all developed out of close Midrashic reading of the biblical materials and fulfilled in his life and death.
	Everything about him is from Midrashic reading of the Old Testament scriptures.
	And here's the kicker.
	Even if there was a historical Jesus, it's still a mythological deception because they still went to the scriptures to write narratives about him that didn't really happen.
	So either way, either way you slice it, it's a deception.
	But if it's clear and the scholars concede that there's a very good chance that there wasn't an historical Jesus and that we could explain the creation of Christianity from Midrashic exegesis alone, then that's problematic because one, all these scholars, their life's work ferociously arguing for who the historical Jesus really was and smearing mythicists, they'd look stupid.
	They'd be disgraced.
	Their reputation would be destroyed.
	Their life's work would be a lie.
	So of course, they've got a sunk cost to keep that going.
	And also, people would start asking, oh, if he's a mythological character, oh, it would, if the scholars all started admitting that Jesus didn't exist, Christianity would literally implode.
	And then Israel would lose their greatest allies.
	And everybody would start wondering, he's a myth.
	Well, who created him and why?
	And then they don't want that question being asked, who created him and why?
	Because it's very clear why Jesus was created to theologically conquer the nations, which is the role of the Messiah to begin with.
	The exaltation and resurrection experiences of his followers are a product of the narrative, not a cause of it.
	This is not to deny any creativity on the part of Jesus or his early or later followers, but only to suggest strongly that such creativity is most richly and compellingly read within the Jewish textual and intertextual world.
	Jesus is shown here, as also in the halakhic discussions that we've encountered previously, besting the scribes and the Pharisees at their own game of Midrash.
	And it wasn't Jesus besting the Pharisees in Midrash.
	It was the authors.
	It was Paul and the early Christians and the authors of the Gospels that were doing this.
	See, Boyarin even tries to squeeze in a historical Jesus, which makes none of this make sense at all.
	It's ridiculous.
	He almost has like a James Tabor theory that like, well, Jesus was midrashically reading these things and he was trying to fulfill all the prophecies himself.
	Like Jesus is walking around with a Torah scroll, like, okay, and next I'm supposed to say this, and next this is supposed to happen.
	And oh, go get me a donkey so I can ride in on the donkey so everybody thinks I'm the Messiah.
	Oh, I guess I need to James Tabor, another academic professor, scholar, Jesus mythicist gatekeeper.
	He argues that Jesus believed that the Messiah had to die so that he wanted to go and get killed.
	It's absurd.
	The idea of the suffering of the Son of Man is anything but an alien import into Judaism.
	In fact, it is its very vocation.
	It is here, perhaps more than anywhere else in the Gospel of Mark, that we see its background in the Jewish mode of biblical interpretation, Midrash.
	Once again, to remind listeners, Midrash is a way to multiply contextualizing verses with other verses and passages in the Bible in order to determine their meaning.
	Connecting verses from other verses in the Bible to create a new meaning or give them new meaning.
	Our passage here is quite close in form to a type of Tana'itic Midrash in which a verse is cited, a commentary is offered, another contradiction and strongly supported.
	The Gospels are written something close to the match before the church, especially for the press purposes.
	Once again, we see here evidence that the idea of a suffering Messiah would not have been at all foreign to Jewish sensibilities, which derived their very messianic hopes and expectations from such methods of close reading of scripture, just as Jesus did.
	Just as the early Christians or the gospel writers did.
	Identification between the Son of Man and the fate of Jesus comes to its culmination in the verses from chapter 14, discussed earlier, in which Jesus is asked about his messianic identity by the high priest just before the crucifixion and confesses openly for the first time that he is the son of god the messiah the son of man who will come on the clouds of heaven okay now here is let's go got another clip over here for us so here's the top three mythicists in the world basically all who get blacklisted
	and smeared and uh all these accusations against him What you normally use to cite a source, right?
	So you say, according to the scriptures, he means what you normally use to cite a source, right?
	So you say, according to the scriptures, he means we learn in the scriptures that Jesus was crucified and buried in.
	He makes it very clear.
	That's the only way he gets it.
	He doesn't appear.
	It could be.
	It randomly appears.
	So Paul says he only gets his gospel of Jesus from the scriptures and from Revelation, and he never knew him.
	And the only way that he would have had any authority doing that is if that's what everybody else was doing with this Jesus character.
	And all of these Bart Ehrmans and Kip Davis and all of these historical Jesus propagandists, what do they say?
	They go, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
	You're like a flat earther or a vaccine denier to say that Jesus started as a mythological character.
	It's completely plausible.
	In fact, there's such a lack of evidence for historical Jesus and tons of questionable evidence that would lead people to believe that he started as a pre-existing celestial mythical figure.
	But the way that they react, they're like hostile, dismissive reaction to mythicist, when it's completely plausible, should raise eyebrows and tell everybody what they need to know about how fragile this consensus is.
	It's a house of cards ready to collapse.
	And this consensus was formed and has been maintained by theological scholarship, which has always been dominated by religious adherents, Christians and Jews.
	They can concede all types of stuff.
	They can say he wasn't born of a virgin, although you'll get in trouble for that.
	You'll get backlash.
	You won't get the jobs.
	You won't get the publishing.
	You won't get the PhDs.
	All of these things is the way that they gatekeep this issue.
	Don't listen to all those.
	They refuse to debate.
	They don't do peer-reviewed responses to Richard Carrier and Letaster.
	They don't check the footnotes.
	They don't understand the arguments.
	They misrepresent and strawman the arguments and ignore evidence, all types of stuff.
	Primordial Chaos says Carrier is the only consistent one here.
	I mean, I should show you guys my reading list.
	I've read tons of Ehrman books.
	Ehrman's book about the historical Jesus versus Carrier's book.
	I've read them both several times.
	And Carrier has the much stronger evidence and arguments.
	And that's why Ehrman is terrified to debate.
	And whenever he gets asked about it, he starts nervously laughing.
	Ehrman and all these guys have the bias.
	He's educated.
	Well, number one, he was a Zionist evangelical until his adult years.
	He was so much of a Zionist evangelical with a love for Jesus that he attended to be an apologist.
	He attended theological seminaries and Christian Bible Institutes.
	And then he goes, oh, we don't have any bias.
	It's incredible.
	It's disgraceful what I've been witnessing the last three years that I've been completely obsessed with this whole historical Jesus verse mythicism debate.
	Thug Nifficent, no one can debate Carrier.
	The thing is, too, is that Carrier's debated lots of people, shreds them all, and then these guys act like, oh, I'm not going to debate Carrier.
	He's not professional enough.
	Like guys that have never debated anybody and don't even can't even steel man the argument, don't even know the argument.
	Haven't even read the book.
	Kip Davis just did a, who's a Dead Sea Scroll PhD, just did a three-part series attacking Richard Carrier.
	Completely falls on his face.
	He's got absolutely nothing.
	Godless Engineer and Richard Carrier already did several responses debunking all of his bullshit.
	And he does, who does it, what kind of scholar does a three-part series attacking another scholar and doesn't even read their whole book.
	It's pathetic.
	DG, they can't let out the lies that these Jews, some Jews, con the world.
	Exactly.
	This is what Scurbina writes about in his book so much.
	Those other people preaching other Jesus' other Christs, other gospels.
	But the idea that Paul was saying.
	Oh, one other thing I want to mention too.
	Sorry, keep interrupting.
	I'm talking a lot.
	But all of these biblical scholars and biblical critics that are all just vehemently denying the mythical Jesus and gatekeeping anybody that suggests it, they're also completely kosher and Judaism apologists and will dismiss and excommunicate anybody that blasphemes God's chosen people and criticizes Judaism.
	They protect Judaism.
	They touch it with kid gloves.
	They don't allow any criticism.
	Those are the same people that are creating this consensus on the historical Jesus.
	Other gospels.
	But the idea that Paul was saying that the scriptures were fulfilled in the crucifixion, that's like saying that.
	And this is David Fitzgerald.
	He wrote Mything in Action, volumes one, two, and three, read all of them several times and nailed 10 reasons, 10 myths about the historical Jesus, something like that.
	The scriptures were fulfilled in the crucifixion.
	That's like a more modern or a later interpretation.
	What Paul is actually saying, it looks like plainly in the Greek is saying, oh, we found out in the scriptures, guess what?
	Jesus was crucified.
	It's not that it was fulfilled.
	It's that that's their source material.
	Their source material.
	Paul says, Paul writes that no one would even know about Jesus if it weren't for preachers like him to explain him from the mysteries hidden since the beginning of time in the scriptures.
	Primordial Chaos Verse 1, the lie would shake the world.
	It absolutely would.
	They weren't taking events known to have happened or even believed to have happened.
	Well, we know that Jesus and his family went to Egypt.
	And by golly, I bet that was being predicted.
	No, they got the whole idea from this esoteric reading of Hosea 11.
	They got the whole idea from an esoteric, Kabbalistic reading.
	Even like Paul says, he was raised up to the third heaven.
	That's describing a mystical Merkaba mysticism, proto-Kabbalistic experience where he has these visions of, you know, who knows what they were doing, starving themselves, taking drugs, sleep deprivation, whatever.
	Maybe they were just slightly schizophrenic, but or they're just making it up and they didn't have visions.
	It's just like all these con artist charlatans all over YouTube today saying, oh, I have this dream and God told me this about Trump.
	So, you know, it's the same shit.
	See through it all.
	Fitzgerald is good.
	He is very good.
	And one, and Earl Dougherty really opened my eyes to this one.
	He's saying it's like the Kabbalistic rabbis used to do.
	Oh, we know what really happened in the Garden of Eden.
	Yeah, what the Kabbalistic rabbis used to do.
	That's what this is.
	It's a Kabbalistic deception.
	Earl Dougherty that wrote the Jesus puzzle.
	Did Christianity begin with a mythical Christ?
	Yes, it did.
	Because we're Jesus coding the text.
	Yes.
	And so they embellished it in all good faith.
	No, it wasn't in good faith.
	How do you know it was all in good faith?
	Oh, we're just going to make up this figure and sell it as the apostle to the Gentiles in good faith.
	We're going to use fear and the promise of eternal life in good faith to mind control the Gentiles.
	But what else is he saying?
	And so they embellished it in all good faith.
	That was just their method, which is not the reliable.
	They might as well have been doing Sudoku in the Old Testament to Bible code context.
	It's an ancient form of Bible code.
	Yeah.
	So is this Bible coding?
	Is that where the Da Vinci Code and all that stuff?
	Bible code, exactly what it is.
	Here's Carrier.
	Christianity formed by Madrashic method of taking verses out of context.
	So like the heard of Christian apologists taking verses out of context.
	The entirety of Christianity is built on taking verses out of context, right?
	So like the virgin birth.
	That Isaiah passage was not about a virgin birth.
	It wasn't about the future.
	It was about a birth in his own day.
	And then the critics of Carrier go, Carrier's taking those verses out of context.
	That's not what it says.
	This in Isaiah is really about the suffering servant.
	It means the Jews.
	Or this in what would it be?
	Zachariah is about Jehizedek.
	It's the leader of the second temple.
	It's not about Jesus.
	He never says it was.
	This is one of the strongmans that they do.
	So that's taken completely out of context to invent a virgin birth.
	Right.
	The Isaiah 52 and 53.
	That's about Cyrus the Great resurrecting the nation of Israel.
	It was not about a future Messiah.
	But later Jewish sects and Christianity reads it all about, oh, it's a future Messiah.
	It's talking about a particular individual.
	It's talking about Jesus, reading it out of context, right?
	So almost the entirety.
	And this was actually a systematic thing in Judaism.
	It's called Pesher.
	And we have tons of examples from the Dead Sea Scrolls predating Christianity.
	And the Dead Sea sect is very similar to Christianity in the sense that Christianity clearly grew out of a Dead Sea sect or a Dead Sea-like sect.
	Christianity grew out of a Dead Sea.
	And Carrier also says there was like up to as many, at least, sorry, at least like six sub-sects within the Qumran area of the Essenes, six sects of different Essenes.
	And it could be the same one and it evolves and changes or splits off.
	You know, there's all these different people, but that's very clearly...
	And they're doing the same thing.
	They connect the Daniel 925 to Isaiah 52.
	So some sect like that.
	And they were wild about Pesher, where they would take random verses of the Old Testament.
	That wasn't called the Old Testament then, but the random verses of scripture, put them all together, and invent a new scripture.
	It was kind of a hidden message that God was secretly hiding like a cipher inside the Bible.
	And they would completely change the meaning of all the verses from the original context, put them in a new context and reimagine what the text meant, which is, of course, exactly what Io does.
	And okay, here's one.
	Hold on, let's do this one first.
	Called a Pesher.
	So this is from another book I read, The Great Courses, Jesus and His Jewish Influences.
	You know what?
	Actually, sorry, let's do this one first because that one talks about Melchizedek scroll.
	Christianity.
	All right.
	So here's a rabbi also that knows that Christianity is a midrash.
	Christianity, all right?
	Like much of mystical Judaism is built upon a fundamental, I don't know, I don't want to call it a mistake, so I don't want to sound offensive or insulting in any which way, but Christianity was built out of Judaism on Jewish midrash.
	Midrash.
	And that becomes very clear and evident.
	For example, if you look at the actual teachings of Yeshua as the historical individual that he was, even in his own day, they say, how come he's speaking in parables and symbolisms and the like?
	That's a very common Jewish way to teach.
	It is what we call midrashim.
	All right?
	Very, very common.
	I mean, what's the incentive for all of the Jews to keep the historical Jesus alive?
	Is number one, they're very proud that all of the world is worshiping the Son of God, a Jew as the Son of God, number one.
	Number two, like Maimonides said, it helped prepare the world for the messianic age and get them to abandon their idol worship.
	Three, they don't want anybody to know that he was made up and never existed.
	They would lose the support that they get from the evangelicals in Israel.
	Many reasons.
	The original Jewish authors are making a reference to Isaiah in reference to Yeshua.
	What do they mean?
	What is their intent?
	And the obvious answer to this is within the context of classical Jewish biblical interpretation, the likes of which we have seen in previous lessons in this Isaiah series.
	When Matthew wants to state that Yeshua is somehow a fulfillment of a prophecy written in Isaiah 714 about the young woman giving birth to a famous child or a child of a sign, he wasn't making the reference to anything of a virgin birth.
	There was no such concept in Judaism at the time.
	And Matthew being a Jew-knowing Hebrew would know that the Hebrew word alma, did not mean betuilah, and the application therefore of the virgin birth concept clearly came from non-Jewish sources.
	This is documented historically.
	And Matthew's intent of applying this verse was not necessarily a literal fulfillment of a prophecy, but rather what we call a midrash.
	A metaphorical, symbolic, embellished application to taking a verse, not so much out of context, but taking a verse and applying it moralistically as opposed to literally.
	And this is how midrash always works.
	Wherein which we would take a simple verse of the Bible and I said, this is what it literally means.
	Well, no, it's just being applied to teach us a moral point.
	AKA Pilpul.
	It's not exactly like Pilpul, but you could call it that.
	Matthew, John, James, Peter, Paul, and I'm going to say Mark and Luke, probably under their influences, most likely applied and wrote about our Torah and our Tanakh within that context, simply because at the time, there really was no other context.
	And that is the mentality that we must take in understanding how the verses in Isaiah 53 were also used by the original Jewish authors to apply to Yeshua.
	They clearly knew that Isaiah wrote in chapter 49 that the servant is Israel and spoke of the history of the entire Jewish people.
	Therefore, what were they saying?
	Isaiah was wrong that only they understood the Bible better than Isaiah himself?
	Of course not.
	They were thinking in this context of what we call Midrash.
	Midrash.
	Midrash, Midrash, Midrash.
	What does he throw it all say here?
	Oh, scripture in Revelation.
	Paul never clearly places Jesus on earth or connects him to human history.
	Yeah.
	He says, according to the scriptures, he died for our sins, that he was buried.
	Not the scriptures prove he's the Messiah, but the scriptures say.
	In other words, it never happened.
	And very likely, this is Paul was aware of the ascension of Isaiah, where this is what actually happened.
	That he's, that Jesus was sacrificed in heaven by Satan.
	All right.
	And okay, I guess we can do this one now.
	No, let's go back here.
	Jesus is a Midrash.
	Okay, we just play that one.
	Another type of work or category of work represented among the Dead Sea Scrolls that is related to the Hebrew Bible is something called a Pesher or plural Pesharim.
	And this is actually a term that modern scholars have given to this category of literature.
	We have come across this category of literature before when we talked about the Pesher Nachum, for example.
	So a Pesher is a commentary on or interpretation of a book of the Hebrew Bible.
	Usually it is a commentary on a prophetic book.
	And we have mentioned a couple of examples of these.
	The Pesher Nachom, which is a commentary on the book of Nahom, and the Pesher Habakkuk, which is a commentary on the book of Habakkuk.
	Now, it is very common, of course, even until today, for people to write commentaries on or interpretations of the biblical text.
	So that's basically what these authors of the Pesharim were doing.
	But this genre of Pesher from Qumran is distinguished from the usual commentaries on biblical works in a couple of ways.
	One of the ways that the category of Pesher is distinguished is that the author of the work read the biblical passage and interpreted it in light of events that were happening in his own time.
	So the author thought that the events described in the biblical work or the prophetic book applied to events that were occurring in his own time.
	And the second distinctive feature of the Pesher category is that the author believed that the true meaning of these biblical passages had been revealed through an inspired teacher, a leader of the Qumran sect who is referred to as the teacher of righteousness and who we will be talking about more.
	But the Talmud and the apocalypse of Zerubbabel are not our only evidence of a pre-Christian dying Messiah theme.
	The book of Daniel, written well before the rise of Christianity, explicitly says a Messiah will die shortly before the end of the world.
	Just look at Daniel 9, verses 2 and 24 to 27, and 12, verses 1 to 13.
	This is already conclusive.
	Given my definition of Messiah, Christianity looks exactly like an adaptation of the same eschatological dying Messiah motif in Daniel.
	And the wisdom of Solomon, an important scripture to the first Christians, presents a son of God who is despised, killed, resurrected, and crowned as a king in heaven.
	I want to show you guys.
	I'm going to jump around a little bit just to show you guys the wisdom of Solomon real quick because it's important.
	Here we go.
	Where is it?
	There it is.
	Wisdom of Solomon, a very important book to early first century Christians.
	So it says, wait, do I start?
	Okay.
	Therefore, let us lie in wait for the righteous, like the righteous one, because he is not for our turn.
	He is clean, contrary to our doings, like Christianity was contrary to the Jews.
	He upbraided us with offending the law.
	So he said, don't follow the law, right?
	That's where they got that idea that Christians don't follow the law.
	He called himself the child of the Lord.
	He made his boast that God is his father.
	Let us see if his words be true.
	For if the just man be the son of God, he will help him and deliver him from the hands of his enemies.
	Does that sound familiar?
	That's where they got this idea from Mark, where they said, come down from the cross and save yourself.
	Let this Messiah, the king of Israel, come down from the cross that we may see and believe.
	Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him.
	So that's where you get it from.
	Wisdom of Solomon, chapter 2, verse 18.
	Come down from the cross.
	Also, it says, let us examine him with despitefulness and torture.
	Let us condemn that we may know his meekness and prove his patience.
	Let us condemn him with a shameful death.
	Such things that they did imagine and were deceived, for their own wickedness hath blinded them.
	Again, this is not scriptures prophesizing Jesus that really came and did these things.
	No, this is the type of scriptures that were included as inspiration in the midrash for the Jesus story.
	And this is a theme, even Paul says that if the rulers, the rulers wouldn't have crucified Christ if they knew if they knew the mysteries.
	And the same thing is also in Ascension of Isaiah.
	Their wickedness hath blinded them.
	That's the theme, but the Jews are blind to the truth of Jesus, right?
	As for the mysteries of God, they knew them not.
	And again, this is pre-Christian wisdom of Solomon.
	They shall be amazed at the strangeness of his salvation.
	We fools accounted his life madness and his end be to be without honor.
	How is he numbered among the children of God and his lot is among the saints?
	Therefore, we have erred from the way of truth and the light of righteousness hath not shined unto us and the son of righteousness rose not upon us.
	And it says, in their exile, their departure should not be taken for misery, and their going from us to be utter destruction, but they are in peace.
	As gold in the furnace hath he tried them and received them as a burnt offering.
	And in the time of their visitation, they shall shine And run to and fro like sparks among the stubble, very Kabbalistic, the scattered sparks among the stubble of the kelly pot, the shattered vessels, the Jews in exile.
	And they shall judge the goyam and have dominion over people, and their Lord shall reign forever.
	Sounds like Daniel.
	Okay, each of these passages talks about.
	Oh, wait, now what are we going to hear?
	A narrative that could easily have been taken by some as referring to the Messiah.
	And even if not, it certainly established a heroic model that one could adapt into a dying Messiah already within pre-Christian Judaism, which would thus already be intelligible to Jews.
	This wisdom of Solomon archetype could even have been associated with the despised and dying servant of Isaiah 53, as they sound quite similar.
	Innocent righteous men, humiliated and killed by the wicked, but exalted and made triumphant.
	Isaiah 53 was already understood to contain an atonement martyrdom framework applicable to dying heroes generally.
	And the whole concept of a suffering martyred hero was an established Jewish archetype.
	But of the more specific notion of a dying Messiah, we also have other pre-Christian evidence in the form of a Dead Sea Scroll designated 11Q13, the so-called Melchizedek scroll.
	Melchizedek scroll.
	This is an apocalyptic pesher, a document attempting to discover hidden messages in the scriptures.
	Probably hidden messages in the scriptures.
	And by the way, this is dated 100 to 200 BCE, 100 years before the supposed birth of Jesus.
	And this is why Melchizedek scroll proves that Jesus in Christianity is a lie because the whole foundation of the Jesus myth is that he's the son of man who dies and rises after three days.
	That's from Daniel connecting Daniel to Isaiah 52, 53 and the Psalms and wisdom of Solomon, Zechariah, everywhere else.
	So they were doing this before Jesus came.
	And that's he never came.
	This is where they he came from them midrashically connecting these verses by finding secret links among disparate and previously unrelated verses, which together communicate God's plan.
	Most commonly, and certainly in this case, his plans for the coming Messiah, the defeat of evil, and the end of the world.
	There are many such Pesharim at Qumran, but this one tells us about the messenger of Isaiah 52 to 53, who is linked in Isaiah with a servant who will die to atone for everyone's sins.
	Presaging God's God, we've already seen here is a good video that shows the Bible a son worship.
	We're not going to watch a whole video right now.
	And the whole focus on oh, it's sun worship.
	It's all astro theology.
	The rising and dying God.
	I'll tell you the truth, folks.
	I gotta tell you the truth.
	When it comes to bullshit, big time major league bullshit.
	You have to stand in awe in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exactly.
	We're not doing sorry, I appreciate the 15, but we're not doing a show today on Jesus being the son.
	Like I said, even Carrier says that the rising and dying was originally connected to like the harvest and the cycles and the seasons.
	But people that want to put all the focus on, oh, like Jordan Maxwell or Zeitgeist, that want to say, oh, it's all astro-theology.
	They're missing the bigger point here that it's a midrashic myth fabricated to conquer the nations in later Jews definitely regarded as the Messiah.
	At Qumran, 11 Q13 appears to say that this messenger is the same man as the Messiah of Daniel 9, who dies around the same time and end to sin is said to be accomplished, again presaging God's final victory, and that the day on which this happens will be a great and final day of atonement, absolving the sins of all the elect.
	After which, 11 q13 goes on to say, God and his savior will overthrow all demonic forces.
	And all this will proceed according to the timetable in Daniel 9.
	Thus, 11 q13 appears to predict that a messiah will die, and that this will mark the final days before which God's agents will defeat Belial or Satan and atone for the sins of the elect.
	Not all scholars have recognized this in 11 q13 or conceded it, though I okay.
	And one more.
	Where is it?
	Shoot.
	No, here it is.
	No, that's not it.
	Oh, I know where it's at.
	Oh, I know where it's at.
	Jesus is shown here, as also in the halakhic discussions that we have encountered previously, besting the scribes and the Pharisees.
	Okay, that wasn't it.
	We're going to skip through Isaiah.
	Okay, now let's just go right into Melchizedek scroll.
	It's a little small here.
	We'll go big screen.
	So everything in here, you can read the whole thing.
	It's not all that important.
	The important part is the Melchizedek is like this messianic figure that, according to the timetable in Daniel, is going to come at a certain time.
	And you can see here they're citing first Isaiah 61:1, just as Isaiah said, to proclaim Jubilee to the captive.
	So look at this.
	Isaiah 61.
	We're going to start there, right?
	Look at what it's.
	Hold on.
	I got it up here.
	Isaiah 61.
	The spirit of the sovereign Lord is on me because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor and to proclaim freedom from the captives and release from darkness of the prisoners.
	The day of vengeance of our God.
	So that's what they're citing here.
	See?
	Proclaim the Jubilee to the captives.
	Isaiah 61.
	And look what else Isaiah 61 says.
	It's the day of vengeance for our Lord.
	They will rebuild the ancient ruins and restore the places long devastated and renew the cities.
	Strangers will shepherd your flocks, so Goyam slaves.
	Foreigners will work your fields and vineyards, foreigners meaning Goyam.
	And you will be called priests of the Lord.
	You will be named ministers of our God.
	You will feed on the wealth of the nations, and in their riches you will boast.
	I will reward my people and make an everlasting covenant with them.
	Their descendants will be known among the nations and their offspring among the people.
	All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
	So that's what Melchizedek Scroll is citing.
	Isaiah 61.
	And this is also playing on the Melchizedek scroll for the Jesus narrative.
	Luke says Jesus was teaching in their synagogues and everyone praised him.
	On the Sabbath day, he went into the synagogue as was his custom, but he's not Jewish, though, right?
	For the Christian identity people.
	The scroll of the Torah, prophet Isaiah was handed to him.
	Unrolling it, he found the place where it was written, and he reads from Isaiah 61.
	Good news to the poor, freedom for the prisoners.
	Reads right from it.
	So what is the role of Jesus?
	It's everything I just read, to feed off the wealth of the nations.
	Today, this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.
	And then they say, isn't this Joseph's son, the Messiah, son of Joseph?
	Again, historicists will say, he probably really did have a father named Joseph.
	That's what Bart Ehrman says, right?
	Oh, his father really was named Joseph.
	You think it's a coincidence that Jesus is this suffering Messiah, son of Joseph character, and his father is also named Joseph.
	You think that's a coincidence?
	No.
	They named him Joseph because he's the son of Joseph.
	This is fulfilled in me.
	So Isaiah 61 is fulfilled in Jesus.
	In other words, through Jesus, they will, what does it say?
	The riches.
	And if you read Isaiah 60, it's the same shit, just as bad.
	Oh, you will feed on the wealth of the nations.
	This is what Jesus fulfilled, feeding on the wealth of the nations.
	Okay, and then we have also, back to Melchizedek scroll.
	Oh, and I should probably go here real quick, too.
	Melchizedek scroll.
	All over Hebrews, Jesus is likened.
	What is this going on with these ads?
	All over the Melchizedek scroll, it says, 1-1, Hebrews 1-1, spoken to us by his son, through whom he also made the universe.
	The Son is the radiance of God's glory, an exact representation of his being sustained all things in the world.
	His firstborn, your throne will last forever.
	The scepter of justice and the scepter of your kingdom, Jesus is often associated with the scepter ruling like a rod in the land of thine enemies and all that in Isaiah, Psalms 110.
	The scepter of justice.
	Oh, that's Psalm 45.
	That's what they're citing.
	So look, Hebrews, right?
	Where is it?
	Oh, yeah.
	They cite, but about the son, he says, the scepter of justice.
	So this is Hebrews, quoting from Psalm 45, 6 and 7.
	You go read 45, 6, and 7.
	It says, Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king's enemies.
	Let the gom fall beneath your feet.
	So that's what Jesus is doing, conquering the goyam.
	Your throne, oh God, will last forever and ever.
	A scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
	I will perpetuate your memory through all generations.
	Therefore, the goyam will praise you forever and ever.
	That's what Jesus is supposed to do.
	And then you can see Hebrews 2.
	He's the high priest who's making an atonement for the sins of the people.
	Melchizedek was a high priest.
	And then they say he suffered.
	And most importantly, Hebrews 10.
	This idea that Hebrews is all about that they need a perfect sacrifice.
	And I think Hebrews connects to the Talmudic story that the 40 years before the temple was destroyed, the Yom Kippur ritual wasn't working anymore.
	I think that coincides with this.
	When Christ came into the world, he said, here I am.
	It is written about me and the scroll.
	And that's literally straight from Psalm 40.
	Again, it's written about me.
	The word became flesh.
	All of these things.
	It's a giveaway that the whole narrative of Jesus is coming from midrashic fan fiction.
	The Holy Spirit testifies to us about this.
	First, he says, this is the covenant I make with them.
	Again, all the words that Jesus supposedly says are just quotes from the Old Testament, Jeremiah 31, 33.
	And then Jeremiah 31, 34.
	And here's the most important part.
	Hebrews 6.
	Now, our forerunner, Jesus, he has become a high priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.
	So they already have Jesus as the Melchizedek character.
	Like in the scroll 11 Q13, the Dead Sea Scroll has the Melchizedek.
	They connect him to Isaiah 61, like Jesus is connected to in the New Testament.
	The day of atonement, the Psalms, the Jesus narrative is all over the Psalms.
	And then Isaiah 52 connected to Daniel 9, 26.
	So the suffering servant in Isaiah 52 and 53 to the anointed one that is cut off in Daniel and Melchizedek.
	have like a pre-Jesus, Jesus story showing that this evolved naturally and didn't all actually happen.
	Thank you.
	Okay, so Isaiah 52 and 53.
	Daniel 9, the one that is cut off.
	We already went through that earlier.
	Let's just show a little 52 and 53.
	So Isaiah 52, how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet that bringeth good tidings.
	That's the verse that they cite in Melchizedek scroll that say unto Zion, thy God reigneth.
	That's what Christians say to the God of Zion.
	You're God to the Jews.
	Your God is real.
	Your God reigns.
	That was the goal all along.
	The Lord hath comforted his people.
	He hath redeemed Jerusalem.
	The Lord had made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the Goyam.
	And all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
	That's what Jesus did.
	In Isaiah 52, 7, they have salvation in Hebrew is Yeshua or Yehoshua, which means salvation or Yahweh saves.
	Salvation, they even get the name Yeshua there.
	It's one of the places they get the name Yeshua.
	Romans 10, you could see here Paul's, as it is written, Paul wrote in Romans, as it is written, how beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news, which is straight from Isaiah 52, 7.
	He's doing a midrash.
	As it is written, Jesus is bringing the good news, just like it says in Melchizedek scroll.
	And this is also the verse where Paul gives away that nobody would know who Jesus was if it weren't for Paul, who never knew Jesus, to explain him from the scriptures.
	How then can they call on the one they have not believed in?
	How can they believe in the one whom they have not heard?
	I thought Jesus preached to everybody.
	How can they hear without someone preaching to him?
	You need a preacher, an apostle, somebody who has revelations from Jesus and sees him in the scriptures midrashically to teach Jesus.
	And then Isaiah 52 also says, my servant shall deal prudently.
	So the suffering servant, the branch, the Messiah, he shall be exalted and extolled And be very high.
	So shall he sprinkle many nations, the kings of the Goyim shall shut their mouths at him.
	And what did Jesus do?
	He conquered the emperor of the Roman Empire.
	Christianity and Jesus, the king of the Jews, conquered all of Edom and Western civilization, all the kings conquered by Jesus, the king of the Jews.
	Now, this all connects.
	You can connect Isaiah 52 and 53 to Daniel even stronger when you look at Zechariah 3, another prophet.
	He showed me Yeshua, Joshua, that's the name of Jesus in Hebrew.
	He's the new Joshua, basically.
	Joshua, the high priest, like Melchizedek is a high priest, like the high priest is the one that does the atonement for the sin.
	And this is happening in heaven.
	Read esoterically, it's happening in heaven because it's in front of God and Satan.
	Joshua was clothed with filthy garments.
	And this is a metaphor for resurrection to have filthy garments that become clean or are traded out for clean clothes.
	Take away the filthy garments from him.
	Behold, I have caused thine inequity to pass from thee.
	Again, like we see in Daniel and Isaiah about the inequity, the sins passing away.
	I bring forth my servant, the branch.
	The branch is a messianic term.
	It's in Isaiah 11.
	See, do I have Isaiah 11 here?
	No.
	I just want to show you guys Isaiah 11 real quick.
	Thank you.
	A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots, a branch will bear fruit.
	So this is talking about the Messiah.
	Paul cites Isaiah 11, and then it also says the Gentiles, nations, sorry, he will raise a banner for the nations.
	The nations, the root of Jesse, will stand as a banner for the people.
	The nations will rally to him.
	This is where they read this midrashically and go, hmm.
	So the Messiah is supposed to die, be rejected by the Jews, rise after three days, and go to the nations.
	And then they carried it out with this midrashic fictional story.
	But you see, we have the branch.
	That's the important part.
	So my servant, the branch, I will remove inequity of the land in one day.
	So an atonement, day of atonement sacrifice with the branch named Jesus, named Yeshua.
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	So that was Zachariah, what, 3, 6, Zechariah 3.
	Zechariah 6, take silver and gold and make crowns, set them upon the head of Joshua or Yeshua or Jesus, the high priest.
	And again, just to address it, the Jesus historicist, they say, oh, well, this is out of context.
	This is about Joseph, the high priest of the second temple.
	It's not about Jesus.
	We know.
	They read it midrashically, Kabbalistically.
	This is what they did.
	Behold, the man whose name is the branch.
	So there's the branch again.
	And he shall grow up out of his place and shall build the temple of the Lord like Jesus built the church, the temple.
	Even he shall build the temple of the Lord, and he shall bear the glory, and he shall sit and rule upon his throne and be a priest upon his throne.
	The council of peace shall be between them both.
	And from the Orthodox Jewish Bible, they even say Zachariah 6, Yehoshua is said to be the namesake of the coming Moshiach bin David.
	Moshiach is the new Joshua, like in Isaiah 49, 8, or the Moshiach will sprout up, like in Isaiah 53, 2, is Jesus.
	This is where they got the name Jesus.
	And then we go to Zachariah 12.
	So we got Daniel, Daniel 3, 6, 9, and 12.
	Isaiah 52, 53, and everywhere else.
	Zechariah 3, 6, and 12, where it says, those who are slain wailing over them as over a favorite son and showing bitter grief as over a firstborn.
	Paul calls Jesus the firstborn son of God.
	He's the pre-existing creator of the universe, heavenly logos character.
	And in the King James Version, this is Sappharia.
	It says, the house of David, inhabitants of Jerusalem, and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced.
	Isaiah 53 has the pierced one also, like Jesus was supposedly pierced, and they will look upon the one that is pierced and recognize him, as it says in the end too.
	They shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only son, and they shall be in bitterness for him as one that is in bitterness for the firstborn.
	And what does the Talmud say?
	They say, oh, this pierced one of Zechariah 12, 10 is Messiah, son of Joseph.
	They call him the Messiah, son of Joseph.
	And skeptics will say, well, that's late.
	The Talmud came later.
	The Kabbalah secret about Genesis 49, 10 of the staff and the rod, that comes later.
	The Jews would never say that Zechariah 12, 10 is a citation that Christians were using to prove Jesus was the Messiah.
	Isaiah 52 and 53 is suffering servant that Christians were using to prove Jesus was the Messiah.
	You're trying to tell me that hundreds of years later, the Jews are going to say, well, yeah, that is about the Messiah, son of Joseph.
	And the suffering Messiah is, or the Messiah is from Isaiah 53, as it says in Sanhedrin 98b.
	The only way that they would do these, cite these things which would prove the Christians right without mentioning the Christians or how the Christians were wrong is if these traditions go back to the oral law before Christianity.
	And you can see Deuteronomy 32, avenge the blood of his servants, will take vengeance on his enemies, and atonement for his land and people.
	just very similar to the themes here.
	Thank you.
	Deuteronomy 32.
	Um...
	Thank you.
	O nations, acclaim God's people, he'll avenge the blood of the servants, wreak vengeance on his foes, and cleanse his people's lands.
	And the commentary on that says that the Israelites in due course will spill the blood of the Goyim who had been guilty of spilling their blood.
	I will wreak my vengeance on Edom or Rome, Christian Rome that persecuted the Jews through Christian anti-Semitism and will get their vengeance, my vengeance on Edom, my people, Israel, and they shall take action against Edom.
	And Zechariah 2.
	And that day, many Goyam will attach themselves to the Lord and become his people as Christians, right?
	He will dwell in your midst.
	Then you will know that I was sent to you by the Lord of hosts.
	But what does the commentary say?
	Many idolaters, Gentiles, will join to the Lord and will be his nation, believing in him, like Christians.
	Nevertheless, I will dwell among you, the Jews, and not among the many idolaters.
	And you shall know then when he causes his presence to dwell among you alone, you will know that the Lord sent me to you.
	And then Zechariah 14, finishing off on Zechariah and Jesus.
	The Lord shall be king over all the earth.
	In that day, there shall be one Lord in his name one.
	So just the Moshiach ruling the whole world.
	That's what it's all about.
	Wisdom.
	So we got Melchizedek scroll that connects Isaiah 61 about feeding off the wealth of the nations.
	Isaiah 60 says, suck the milk of the nations.
	We got the Melchizedek, which we need to go to.
	Since we're talking about Melchizedek, let's also look at Psalms 110.
	To understand Jesus is Melchizedek, like it says in Hebrews, Melchizedek scroll, the Dead Sea Scrolls, which predates Christianity, is connecting the Psalms for this messianic figure, Daniel 9 that's cut off, and Isaiah 52, the servant.
	You go to Psalm 110.
	The Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.
	So the Gentiles, the nations will be a footstool.
	The Lord will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying, rule in the midst of your enemies.
	Who does Jesus rule over?
	Their enemies, the Gentiles.
	And then it says, you are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.
	So there's a Melchizedek character is about ruling over the Gentiles.
	That's what Jesus does with the scepter.
	And it talks about he will judge the nations and the kings will be crushed in his day of wrath.
	And there will be drink from a brook.
	Oh, yeah, that's about celebrating.
	Hmm.
	you Thank you.
	So it all connects.
	We're going to go move on to some more Jesus prophecies here.
	So we got Daniel 9, Isaiah 52, 53, Zechariah 3, 6, and 12.
	This is how they constructed and fabricated their mythical deception.
	The wisdom of Solomon.
	Let us condemn him with the shameful death.
	Their wickedness hath blinded them.
	That's where they got that from.
	Now, also, another important prophetic book that the ancient Israelites were madrashically reading to learn about the Messiah is the Psalms of Solomon.
	And I'll get to the super chats in a second.
	I haven't looked at them first.
	I don't have that screen up.
	So what does this say?
	And the judgment of our God is forever over the Goyam.
	The kingdom of our God is forever over the Goyam in judgment.
	So our God rules the world.
	No big deal.
	Raise up unto them their king, the son of David, at the time in which thou seest our God, that he may reign over Israel, thy servant.
	He may shatter unrighteous rulers.
	He shall destroy the pride of the sinner as a potter's vessel.
	With a rod of iron, he shall break in pieces all their substance.
	That's all over Psalms, all over the Bible, using the rod to shatter the kelly pot of the Goyam.
	He shall destroy the godless Goyam with the word of his mouth.
	How did Jesus, the suffering servant, the pacifist, non-violent, conquer the Goyim?
	Through his teachings, through or through the teachings that they ascribe to him, through the word of his mouth, not with the sword.
	At his rebuke, Goyam shall flee before him, and he shall reprove sinners for the thoughts of their heart.
	So sinners, Messiah, he may shatter unrighteous rulers.
	He shall destroy the pride of the sinners out of potter's vessel.
	With a rod of iron, he shall break in pieces their substance.
	We just read that one twice.
	He shall judge people and goim in the wisdom of his righteousness, and he shall have the heathen nations to serve him under his yoke, and he shall glorify the Lord.
	Dude, the way that all of the biblical scholars and Christians run cover for this shit, they are literally like accomplices by burying their head in their sand.
	And not only do they ignore it and make excuses for it and become apologists for it, but then they viciously attack anybody that points out this stuff.
	The heathen Goyim will serve under his yoke.
	The nations shall come from the ends of the earth to see his glory.
	The Lord himself is his king.
	All nations shall be in fear before him.
	This is what they want.
	God-fearers.
	He's a good God-fearing Christian man.
	He fears the God of the Jews.
	He fears the God that chose the Jews.
	You better believe in the power of the prophecy of the Jews, the nation of priests, his chosen people, and worship the king of the Jews, the Torah Moshiach, Yeshua HaMoshiach.
	Otherwise you will burn.
	It's fear-based mind control.
	He himself will be pure from sin so that he may rule a great people.
	There's where you get the idea that Jesus is sinless.
	And also, the accuser in heaven, Jesus is related to the minister Samael, who is the accuser who needs to be a sinless one to accuse the Israelites for their sins.
	um Relying upon his God throughout his days, he will not stumble, for God will make him mighty by means of his Holy Spirit.
	There's where the Holy Spirit idea comes in, which was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, by the way.
	And the Son of God is also found.
	And circumcision of the heart and the city and consumption of blood and the ensnare, the Samael ensnaring the Israelites and tempting them to idol worship.
	Mighty in his works like Jesus was, shepherding the flock of the Lord.
	Jesus is the shepherd, like Joseph was the shepherd, like Moses was the shepherd.
	That's why they have the staff or the scepter represents the authority of the shepherd.
	So from Psalms of Solomon, we get all of these attributes are Jesus.
	And again, these are not prophecies that Jesus fulfilled.
	These were the prophecies that they midrashically read to create the fictional Jesus story.
	Raise him up over the house of Israel.
	He will judge the peoples.
	Okay.
	And now, some more from just to see what Paul was doing in Romans from the scriptures, midrashic reading.
	He goes, as Isaiah boldly says, I was found by those who did not seek me.
	I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.
	So, in other words, hmm, this makes me think we should go to the Gentiles, the ones that were not waiting for him for the Messiah.
	And that's directly from Isaiah 65.
	A literal quote that inspired him to be the apostle to the Gentiles and go to the nations and make them basically Noahides to abandon their idol worship and worship the God of Israel, the ultimate goal of Judaism.
	And Isaiah 42, also it says, Here is my servant upon whom I uphold my chosen one and whom I delight.
	I will put my spirit on him like the Holy Spirit.
	He will bring justice to the Goyam and in the islands will put their hope.
	So the nations, the Gentiles will put their hope in him.
	Matthew says, This was to fulfill.
	So every bit of the story goes, and this fulfilled this prophecy, and that fulfilled that prophecy.
	A magical Jew didn't walk the earth fulfilling all these prophecies.
	A real historical Jesus didn't know all these prophecies and walked around trying to fulfill them.
	Some ancient Kabbalistic Midrashic Jews fabricated, contrived a story that fulfilled them, which is very easy to do.
	I mean, it's a good, it's a literary achievement to be able to do it.
	But ask yourself, what's more likely?
	Jews have magical prophecy powers and that a magical superhero Jew walked the earth and fulfilled all these things.
	Or some ancient Jews made a myth and made it up and lied.
	What is more likely?
	One requires magic and magical Jews.
	One doesn't.
	One just requires somebody making up some myths, which we know they did.
	They're kind of known for being good storytellers and writing scripts.
	And that's what happened.
	This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophets in Isaiah, citing Isaiah 42, exactly.
	That's what they got the idea for it.
	Matthew, again, spoken by Isaiah the prophet, behold, my servant, I will put my spirit upon him and he will show judgment to the Gentiles.
	Isaiah 49, which they're all citing there, right?
	Which one is Isaiah 49?
	Anyway, Isaiah 49, I will raise my hand to Goyam and lift up my banner to peoples.
	They shall bring your sons in their bosoms and carry your daughters on the back.
	What does Kabbalah say about that?
	It says efforts elevate the internal world that is Israel and boosts Israel above the external world who are the gom of the world.
	And all these goim will acknowledge and perceive the significance of the Jewish nation.
	That's what they want from this verse that Paul cites about lift up a banner to the people.
	And there's Isaiah 49, you distant nations.
	He made my mouth like a sharpened sword.
	He made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.
	So the Goyam were conquered by Jesus and the rod of his mouth, the mouth, his teachings, and he was an arrow, a weapon, concealed, a concealed weapon.
	Isaiah 49.
	And this means, this is interpreted as they shall bring the sons by they mean by they, the non-Israelites, are to be understood.
	Now we're going to get into some of the Psalms to see even more.
	You know, it's funny, these Christian haters will be like, there's no evidence.
	Adam believes the rabbis.
	There's so much evidence trying to get it all in an hour and a half in.
	My throat's ripped apart dry.
	There's too much to cover.
	It is really frustrating.
	All the atheist gatekeepers that are terrified of criticizing the real origins of Christianity and Judaism.
	All the Christians that are enabling Judaism that want the same thing as the rabbis with the Moshiach to rule the world.
	The Christians, anti-Semitic Christians, their only response to me is, you're a Jew, you're an agent.
	And then on the other side, their only response is, you're a Nazi, you're an anti-Semite.
	None of these are arguments.
	None of these are remotely true.
	And they can't argue the evidence and the information.
	So they use ad hominem attacks.
	It's the oldest trick in the book from both sides to suppress this information.
	Okay, let's see some of these super chats real quick before we get into it.
	A 30 from John Garadus.
	You are awesome, buddy.
	To 120, keep grinding, Adam, carrying the cross of the Gentiles so they could get a chance for the future.
	Appreciate you so much, John.
	And there's another one.
	Miscalculated.
	So let's go to 130.
	See-through-it all says, Moshiach ben Yosef is supposed to be killed and will be the first to be raised from the dead by Moshiach ben David.
	Read 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
	When Yeshua returns, Paul wrote that those who died believing in him will be resurrected.
	Paul wrote that.
	Thank you.
	The dead in Christ will rise first.
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	For the Lord himself will come down from heaven.
	This is the verse that they use to believe in the rapture.
	The voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
	Thank you, see-through-it-all.
	King Jong-il, I appreciate this very important stream, Adam.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate you, King Jong-il.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Melchizedek high priest.
	Did we read these already?
	Yeah, the footstool, the Melchizedek.
	Look what it says in the Hebrew Orthodox Jewish Bible translation.
	He, Adonai, acting through Moshiach, shall judge among the Goyim, And he shall dash in pieces.
	Okay, Psalm 2.
	That's where we're going right now.
	Psalm 2.
	Psalm 2, another important psalm that they use to create the Jesus narrative says, why do the Goyam conspire and the peoples plot in vain?
	And in Acts, they cite this to just to create the story of the Romans and the Pharisees persecuting Jesus, the nations and the peoples.
	So the Romans and the Jews plot in vain.
	In Acts, they cite that.
	And it's not because it happened and then they look for proof.
	This is it didn't happen.
	And they just saw it here and said that it happened in this Midrashic story.
	So if the kings of the earth and the rulers band together against the Lord and his Messiah, saying, We don't want to be, we break the chains and throw off their shackles.
	We don't want to be slaves anymore.
	That's not allowed.
	They want you to be their slave.
	I will proclaim.
	Well, also, it says, I have installed my king on Zion, my holy mountain.
	This is why every Christian is a Zionist, by the way.
	Because the king, Jesus, is on Zion, God's holy mountain.
	And it says here, He said to me, You are my son.
	Today I have become your father.
	The idea, the Jews have a problem with the Trinity.
	That's why Christianity is not Noahide compliant.
	It's not that Jesus is the Son of God.
	That's a common theme, actually.
	The Son of God is described in many places in the Bible.
	But to say the Son of God is not the same that Jesus is God.
	The Trinity is just illogical nonsense.
	You can't be the same thing and different.
	You can't have Jesus, the Son of God, praying to his dad, who is really himself.
	You have to come up with such pilpal bullshit.
	And I feel like it's such an illogical trap that it was like meant to be destroyed one day.
	That's what it seems like to me.
	So, what are we?
	Psalms 2.
	I will make the Goyam your inheritance, the end of the earth your possession.
	You will break them with a rod of iron.
	You will dash them to pieces like pottery.
	Therefore, you kings, be wise, be warned, you rulers of the earth.
	Serve the Lord with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling.
	They want you to be scared slaves, bowing down to the king of the Jews.
	That's what Christianity is.
	Kiss his son, or he will be angry, and your way will lead to your destruction, for his wrath can flare up in any moment.
	So that's Psalms 2, where you get the son and your father.
	They cite Psalms 2 all the time in the New Testament.
	I feel like I'm missing something from Psalms 2, though, right now.
	I want to bring it up just in case.
	Thank you.
	Grove's really starting to hurt.
	See, am I missing any of the important parts?
	No, that's it.
	No, that's it.
	Okay.
	Psalm 22, another important psalm that they use to create the Jesus narrative.
	So as Carrier says, Psalm 22 is about the death of Jesus.
	Psalm 23 is about Jesus down in hell for the three days.
	And then 24 is about his rising from the dead.
	So we have Psalm 22, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
	Oh, that's just the words that they quote mine to put into Jesus' mouth when he was on the cross.
	He's, I'm a worm and no man, a reproach of men, despised of the people, like Jesus was despised by the Jews.
	All that see me laugh.
	All they that see me laugh me to scorn.
	Like they all scorned and mocked and hurled incense, insults at Jesus.
	He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him.
	Let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
	Jesus knew that he would be resurrected.
	Psalm 22, 27 to 28.
	All the ends of the world shall remember and turn into the Lord.
	All the kindreds of the Goyim shall worship before thee.
	For the kingdom is the Lord's, and he is the governor among the Goyim.
	He is the, and the Orthodox Jewish Bible does use Goyem.
	The Goyam shall bow down and worship before thee.
	That's the purpose of Jesus.
	If it's not clear yet, Psalm 110, we read that one already.
	Melchizedek, the rod of thy strength out of Zion, ruling the land of thine enemies, making the enemy the footstools.
	They cite this all over, by the way.
	Paul mentions the footstools.
	It's in the Gospels also.
	Psalm 117, all you nations extol him, all you people.
	All ye goim praise him, all ye people.
	Psalm 82, all the nations are your inheritance.
	Oh, you're going to inherit the goyim.
	Psalm 22.
	Oh, and by the way, I wanted to read this too.
	Jesus literally says, as it is written about me in the Psalms.
	What verse is that?
	Luke 24, 44.
	I knew that.
	Look at what Jesus says.
	Or they claim Jesus said.
	This is the giveaway that this is where this story comes from.
	This is where the myth comes from.
	And notice, you will not see any Christian haters debunking any of this stuff.
	You won't see them, the historicist academic gatekeepers debunking any of this.
	They ignore it.
	They deny it.
	They smear you.
	That's their approach.
	Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the law of Moses, so the Torah, the prophets, that's the Tanakh, and the Psalms.
	So we're reading the Psalms to see what is written about Jesus.
	And every bit of it is about conquering the nations.
	All who see me mock me.
	They hurl insults, shaking their heads.
	He trusts in the Lord, they say.
	Let the Lord rescue him.
	Let him deliver him.
	So they get Psalm 22, very similar to wisdom of Solomon, right?
	Where they say the same thing.
	Oh, if you're the Son of God, come down from there.
	The same idea.
	And then Psalm 22, just like in Zachariah 6, we have the pierced one, like in Isaiah 53.
	They call him the bruised one, but in the Dead Sea Scrolls, it says pierced.
	Translations, some translations say pierced in Isaiah 53.
	So we've got the pierced one in Isaiah 53 in Zachariah 6.
	And in Psalms 22, they pierced my hands and feet.
	And then Psalm 69, we have the where'd it go?
	In Psalm 69, it says, they put gall in my Food and gave me vinegar for my thirst.
	Jesus says, I thirst, and they gave him gall and vinegar.
	Right?
	That's what Jesus said.
	Jesus is said to have said, Jesus said, I thirst.
	John 19, 28.
	1928.
	It's so obvious here.
	Look at this.
	Okay?
	The death of Jesus.
	Later, knowing everything had now been finished, and so that scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, I am thirsty.
	How gullible do you have to believe to think, so Jesus was on the cross and he's thinking, hmm, what are the other prophecies I need to fulfill?
	I got to get them all.
	Hmm.
	Oh, I'm thirsty.
	And they gave him gall and wine.
	And then the very next verse, may the table set before them became a snare.
	May it become retribution and a trap.
	Christianity is a snare and a trap.
	What you normally use to cite a source, right?
	So you say, according to the scriptures, he means we learn in the scriptures that Jesus was crucified and buried in hunger.
	Right.
	The fundamental features of the gospel story of Jesus.
	Now, I'm going to read.
	This is a little excerpt from Richard Carrier's The Historicity of Jesus, the book that has all of the historical Jesus gatekeepers super triggered.
	Hold on, let me see if there's super chats I missed first.
	How much time do I have?
	I've got about 15 minutes left, too.
	Okay, see-through it all says, by the way, thanks for assisting exposing the Christian identity bot Jonah on Twitter.
	It was great entertainment.
	Sad to think her account has any influence, I know.
	Immortal AI says, does Jesus have parallels to other gods like Apollo or Horus in comparative religion?
	Was either modeled after the other?
	I believe so, yeah.
	The idea of the passion, the rising and dying and rising of a God, that was definitely a paganite, a pagan motif before Jesus.
	Excuse me.
	Team Dom says, oh, Team Edom says, keep up the good work.
	Please make a video dedicated to ruining Christian identity.
	I think it's important info because it's a coping strategy of white Christians to not be underneath the Jews.
	My mom was brought into this to deflect that Esau is the red-haired pagan enemy of the Bible, shaking my head.
	I know, I'll have to do that.
	They're so frustrating.
	Now, here is a little excerpt from the historicity of Jesus.
	I highly recommend everybody get.
	He's going to review the Daniel, Isaiah, Zachariah, wisdom of Solomon connections that I just explained in his own words.
	Here we go.
	The fundamental features of the gospel story of Jesus can be read out of the Jewish scriptures.
	The influence of the Old Testament on the New Testament has been much written on.
	But here I mean to say that this fact, in conjunction with the evidence of previous elements, for example, the pre-Christian Pesher literature, Christian claims to have found hidden information in the scriptures, and so on, makes it plausible to ask whether the gospel was actually discovered and learned from the scriptures, rather than the scriptures being consulted after the fact as a merely defensive reinforcement for key claims Christians were making, supposedly on other grounds.
	For this point, it's enough to illustrate how easy it would have been to do this, even beyond what was already shown in element 6.
	As I've already noted, the wisdom of Solomon declares that the wicked will, quote, condemn to a shameful death, end quote, the holiest man of God, which in the first century would entail a crucifixion in contrast to an honorable death like decapitation, because they are blinded by their wickedness and do not know the secret purposes of God.
	Wisdom 2 verses 20 to 22.
	Just compare 1 Corinthians 2 verses 7 to 9.
	This righteous man they kill will be quote unquote the son of God, wisdom 2 verse 18, who criticizes the current religious order and promotes strange teachings, wisdom 2 verses 12 to 16.
	Those who kill him will scorn and reject him and mock him during his torture and execution, saying, Surely God will come to rescue him, which, to an interpreter looking for hidden connections, links this text with the same man in Psalms 22 verses 7 to 8, which Psalm is heavenly drawn upon to construct the crucifixion scene in Mark 15.
	We just went over that.
	And this righteous man will be killed, but then restored to life and exalted by God to stand again and judge those who killed him in Wisdom 5.
	Wisdom of Solomon.
	Earlier, I demonstrated the links some Jews had likely made between the Messiah killed in Daniel 9 and the righteous servant killed in Isaiah 52 and 53.
	The righteous man and son of God killed in wisdom of Solomon, who is, like the innocent righteous man killed in Isaiah, scorned and rejected of men, executed, and then exalted by God, could easily have been linked to the same network of passages and thus believed to have been prophetical of the same Messiah, which then, as just noted, ties into that network.
	Also, Psalm 22, which gives us the three-day cycle.
	First, Psalm 22, execution and mockery, verse 16, even implying crucifixion specifically, especially in variants known at Qumran.
	Then Psalm 23, burial and sojourn among the dead.
	That's the funeral psalm.
	And then Psalm 24, Ascension and Exaltation.
	This book is so good.
	Carrier is such a good, such a smart guy and has studied this stuff so deeply.
	And the way that there's just like a mob online of trolls trying to bully him and smear him and mock him and insult him and dismiss him and strawman him is just completely disgraceful.
	They also won't read his book, don't really understand his arguments, and won't debate him either.
	Quote unquote, on the first day of the week, where the very same unusual phrasing found in Mark 16, verse 1 is found in Psalms 24, verse 1 in the Septuagint.
	Thus, Mark is clearly quoting and therefore alluding to that psalm, which together gives us the entire gospel spelled out by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15, verses 3 to 4.
	Tying all of this into Isaiah is what gives us the strongest evidence of this.
	The particular and peculiar concept of this Messiah dying for our sins, which notion is only reinforced by linking this to Daniel 9, verse 24, which would then imply the same thing.
	The relevant material in Isaiah describes an itinerant preacher whose beautiful feet walk the land, bringing the gospel and announcing salvation.
	Isaiah 52 verse 7 This preacher When Kip Davis, the Dead Sea Scroll scholar, where to go?
	He said, oh, it doesn't say it's going to atone.
	It says, the transgression to put an end to sin and to atone for inequity, to bring everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, to anoint a most holy place.
	And he goes, oh, it's not about atoning for sin.
	Where God will reveal to all nations, but possibly only through an elect few.
	Isaiah 52, verse 10, using apocalypse, the term for revelation, that he's revealed only to an elect few and then reported to others is implied in Isaiah 53 verse 1.
	Just as Clement of Rome appears to have thought of Jesus, as we'll see in chapter 8.
	This preacher is God's servant, God's child in the Septuagint, who will deal wisely and be exalted and raised up very high.
	Isaiah 52, verse 13.
	Even though he will be despised and rejected of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
	53 verse 3.
	In fact, he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows.
	Born our griefs and he bears our sins and suffers for us.
	And though we thought he was being punished by God, 53 verse 4, in fact, he was wounded for our sins.
	He was bruised for our iniquities, or even pierced for our iniquities in some pre-Christian manuscripts, as I noted in Element 9.
	Indeed, with his stripes we are healed, 53 verse 5, because the Lord gave him up for our sins, 53 verse 6.
	The word here is paradidymy in the Septuagint, identical to the word often translated as he was betrayed in 1 Corinthians 11 verse 23.
	This is so important, too.
	We have the idea that Jesus was betrayed paradidymy, but it actually means it's actually they get it from this Isaiah 53, which means to be handed over.
	The word here is paradidymy in the Septuagint.
	Indeed, with his stripes we are healed, 53 verse 5, because the Lord gave him up for our sins, 53 verse 6.
	The word here is paradidymy in the Septuagint, identical to the word often translated as he was betrayed in 1 Corinthians 11 verse 23, even though referring to exactly the same event.
	Isaiah, oh wait, Isaiah 53, 6.
	Oh, wait, is that what he said?
	Oh, by his wounds we were healed.
	He was oppressed and afflicted.
	Okay, we'll keep going.
	His being delivered up to die for our sins.
	And likewise, this is the same word used for that event throughout the Gospels, as we'll see in chapter 11.
	Explicitly, he is killed, even though innocent, and killed specifically because of the sins of God's people.
	53 verses 8 to 9.
	For God, quote, shall make his life an offering for sin, end quote.
	53, verse 10.
	Because he bears their sins.
	53, verse 11.
	And this servant will then be exalted by God, and his days prolonged.
	And also, in reward, he shall be shown the light of understanding, receive an inheritance, and divide all spoils with the mighty.
	Quote, because he poured out his life unto death and was numbered with the transgressors, yet bore the sin of many and made intercession for them.
	That's another one.
	Who bears the sin for many?
	Also, this is the scapegoat.
	He's the scapegoat.
	He's the Passover lamb.
	Numbered with the transgressors.
	That's why he was with the two criminals on the cross, too.
	They cast lots for his garments.
	Every little thing they get from scripture.
	And Christians go, it's impossible.
	Nobody could have ever fulfilled all the scriptures.
	This is the proof.
	The Old Testament is real because Jesus fulfilled it.
	And the New Testament is real because it fulfilled the Old Testament.
	Circular logic.
	The simple explanation is that none of this happened and they just wrote the story from the scriptures, obviously.
	Or the transgressors.
	End quote.
	53 verses 11 to 12.
	That a later second temple Jew would readily take to mean he would be resurrected, as the only obvious way you can die, yet be rewarded for this death with the prolonging of your days and receiving wisdom and inheritance and spoils is to be made alive again.
	All this just from Isaiah 52 to 53.
	Connecting this to the nearly identical figure described in the wisdom of Solomon would only make this all the more obvious.
	Likewise, the figures in Psalms 22 and Daniel 9 and 12, as well as Zechariah 3 and 6.
	All of this is not itself a proof that Christians did find every key element of their gospel by scouring scripture for secret messages, producing their gospel like a pesher with assistance from revelations and ecstatic inspiration.
	But the evidence I've surveyed so far is sufficient to establish that they could have.
	The usual claim, of course, is that Christians sought out Isaiah 53 after the fact.
	And all scholars agree it was a key text employed by Christians as a prophecy of their Christ and not as inspiration.
	In other words, finding the passage first and then concocting a savior to match.
	That's what happened.
	It was the inspiration first and then made it.
	But we don't really know it was the one and not the other.
	Prior to any specific evidence either way, the one is as likely as the other.
	The ease with which we can produce the Christian gospel solely by constructing a messianic pesher out of the Old Testament scriptures and other scriptures the Christians used is therefore something we must include in our background knowledge.
	All right, so Melchizedek scroll, right?
	We're going to skip to just to show you guys a little bit of what the Christians are saying about the Melchizedek scroll.
	It's very interesting, their different take on it.
	Listen to this.
	This is from Skywatch Tom Horn.
	The lost prophecies of Qumran and also the ancient mysteries of the Essenes.
	Who were the Essenes?
	be validated to be historically true over and over and over again.
	The accuracy of the things that they foresaw coming before they happened.
	Yeah.
	They didn't foresee them.
	See, yeah, yeah, they predicted it all.
	Yep.
	100 years before Jesus, they just connected it all.
	They knew he was going to be the son of man from Daniel, connected to Isaiah 52 and 53.
	Yep, they called it all.
	No, they don't have magical powers.
	They didn't predict anything.
	This is a spell that people are brainwashed by, hypnotized by.
	They don't have magical powers.
	They just fulfill prophecies from the prophecies.
	Not hard to do.
	It's like a cheap parlor trick.
	I saw, what is that?
	Oh, 70 from John Garadis to 200 just super chatted on Fresh and Fit podcast.
	I asked them to invite you on the show, Adam.
	I hope they consider it.
	I hope so.
	It's been a while since I've been on somebody else's show.
	I've got way too much information in my head.
	I got to share it with people.
	And when I took callers the other day, a lot of people called in and go, oh, I saw you when you were on this show or did a stream with this person or had a debate on that platform.
	If people are exposed to this information, they hear the evidence, they understand the arguments, they will get this.
	It's not rocket science.
	It's pretty simple.
	It's pretty straightforward, actually.
	Thank you so much, John.
	You are awesome.
	The rabbis, and we can talk about this later, but the rabbis spent a lot of time and effort to completely erase the fact that they existed.
	For a very good reason.
	Well, their concept is, and according to their theology, they teach that the Messiah was supposed to come and die for our sins.
	The Messiah is God incarnate.
	The one true God that we worship is Triune.
	This is all spelled out in their scrolls over and over again, actually.
	The Messiah was supposed to come and die in one Shemitah after the end of the ninth Jubilee of their age, which translates into 32 AD.
	So they had a lot of extra-biblical prophecies, extra-biblical things that we could...
	They had the Daniel 7 or Daniel 9 timetable.
	And historicists think that the historical Jesus just happened to be crucified then as a coincidence.
	I don't see how they could.
	And there's a reason that Bart Ehrman won't debate carriers.
	It's for all of these reasons I outlined today.
	To talk about.
	Anything that Bart Ehrman will tell you as he laughs like a goofball, Carrier's already debunked a hundred times.
	Every argument he has, and then just acts like, just keeps regurgitating them as if they haven't been refuted already.
	But when the apostasy hit, everybody said, no, no, that's made up.
	In fact, okay.
	The lost prophecies of Qumran.
	The veil is lifted as you discover how much of what you've been taught about Israel in the first century is incomplete.
	Shockingly, there were Jewish believers who knew exactly what to expect from the coming Messiah.
	That he would be God in the flesh, would die for our sins, and even the date of his first arrival.
	You see, they all go, oh, it's all prophecy fulfilled.
	No.
	No.
	It actually disproves Christianity, and they're trying to spin it into this is more proof that Christianity is real.
	This reference to Melchizedek from the Essenes predicting that the Messiah would be the final one in the order of that.
	And is the New Testament literally speaking to the teachings of the Essenes by making the reference that Jesus is a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.
	Yeah, we know.
	There's actually a rabbinical curse that says that if you...
	All right, we're going to skip that.
	I want to go to a little bit of Carrier and Godless Engineer.
	Let's see here.
	So here's Kip Davis's recent attack on after discussing the wisdom.
	So Kip Davis, Dead Sea Scrolls, PhD, he did a three-part series attacking Carrier.
	One of the things, issues that he raised was him trying to debunk what Carrier says about Melchizedek.
	After discussing the wisdom of Solomon, Carrier moves on to the Dead Sea Scrolls in an effort to suggest that these texts also promote his ideas of a dying, rising messiah figure.
	He does so by...
	We just went through Daniel Boyer in showing the actual verses from Daniel where it says he'll be cut off, where in chapter 12 it says he will arise.
	It's all there and he's going to deny it.
	By exploring the very interesting, important text of what's been called the Melchizedek Scroll, 11Q13.
	Here's how he describes it.
	But of the more specific notion of a dying Messiah, we also have other pre-Christian evidence in the form of a Dead Sea Scroll designated 11Q13, the Melchizedek Scroll.
	This is an apocalyptic pesher, a document attempting to discover hidden messages in the scriptures by finding secret links among disciples.
	Spare previously unrelated verses, which together communicate God's plan, most commonly and certainly in this case, his plans for the coming Messiah, the defeat of evil, and the end of the world.
	I would say that this is generally a fair description of an apocalyptic pesher, but I'm not especially fond of this term because I fear that it's inappropriately narrow for describing what is actually much more generally all forms of Jewish scripture interpretation.
	In other words, this is what all Jewish readers of scripture were doing in and around the first century BCE or first century CE.
	If you've watched a few of my videos, you will have seen me make this point a number of times.
	This is just good Jewish scripture exegesis.
	And one of the features of very...
	Okay, so what's the problem?
	Commonplace Jewish scripture exegesis is that the broader context in interpreted scriptures are completely ignored.
	The readers of these texts would then zero in and focus very narrowly on just a single word or a sentence, a phrase, and just rip that completely out of its original context in order to supply it a totally new meaning.
	And this is really an important feature when thinking through what Carrier wants to do with this particular text, as he does with several other texts.
	We saw this already in his handling of the Talmudim.
	Even within texts that I would properly call Pesharim, which very carefully follow the structure of their sources, texts like the Habakkuk Pesher or the Nachum Pesher, even within these texts, which follow the scripture phrase by phrase or verse by verse,
	they still continue to zero in very narrowly just on individual words, individual phrases, all just completely outside of the original context of the scripture.
	Carrier continues in his description of 11Q13.
	This one tells about the messenger of Isaiah 52 to 53.
	Remember at this point what I said about how Jewish texts navigate and handle the broader context of the scriptures they are citing.
	This one tells about the messenger of Isaiah 52 to 53, who is linked in Isaiah with a servant who will die to atone for presaging God's final victory, which, as we have already seen, later Jews definitely regarded as the Messiah.
	At Qumran, 11Q13 appears to say that this messenger is the same man as the Messiah of Daniel 9, who dies around the same time and end to sin is said to be accomplished.
	Again, presaging God's final victory.
	And that the day on which this happens will be a great and final day of atonement, absolving the sins of all the elect, after which 11Q13 goes on to say God and his Savior will overthrow all demonic forces.
	And all this will proceed according to the timetable in Daniel 9.
	Thus, 11Q13 appears to predict that a Messiah will die and that this will mark the final days before which God's agent or agents will defeat Balial or Satan and atone for the sins of the elect.
	And we thought the wisdom of Solomon was bad.
	There are several problems here.
	No, there was nothing bad.
	He acts like, oh, I debunked him on the Talmud saying suffering Messiah or Isaiah 53 is Messianic.
	No, he didn't.
	He goes, oh, the wisdom of Solomon, he misread it.
	He doesn't know the Hebrew.
	No, he's completely right.
	We read the wisdom of Solomon.
	He will be put to a shameful death.
	The stuff about you will be delivered, you'll be saved.
	All of it very clearly aligns Kabbalistically with all these other verses.
	First of all, as I will demonstrate when we go through this text carefully, there is no link between the messenger of Isaiah 52 to 53 and a servant who will die to atone for everyone's sins.
	A connection like this can be made when you're dealing with just the text of Isaiah 52 to 53 on their own, but that's not what 11Q13 is doing.
	Not at all.
	Nowhere in the entire text is there any allusion at all to the suffering of the servant in Isaiah.
	This is a straw man too.
	Carrier never said that Melchizedek scroll said anything about suffering.
	What it does do...
	Shoot.
	Remember, what it did do, Melchizedek scroll, was connect Isaiah 52, 7.
	Where is it?
	Isaiah 52, 7 and Daniel 9, 26.
	So, what Kip Davis is erroneously trying to argue here is that Isaiah 52, Melchizedek Scroll cites 52, 7, this verse right here, how beautiful the mountains.
	They're talking about messianic stuff, though, midrashically reading it.
	So, we know that's what it says.
	But if you look just a few verses later, it flows into the suffering and glory of the servant.
	And then, this the servant will act wisely, carries over into Isaiah 53.
	So, it's the Isaiah, the suffering servant of Isaiah 52 and 53.
	Well, he goes, Well, it's just about that, and they're ignoring all the rest of it.
	You don't know that they don't atomize it so much.
	And then he does the same thing with Daniel 9.
	This is his argument.
	He thinks this is a win, and it's just nonsense.
	He goes, Oh, well, Melchizedek Scroll is citing Daniel 9:25, not 26, because 26 is where it says the anointed one will be put to death.
	So, he goes, Yeah, Melchizedek Scroll, they connected 9:25, but it has nothing to do with the very next sentence that's completely connected to it.
	That's his big gotcha on Carrier, and he's all over Twitter, Twitter, acting like a disgraceful, unprofessional, unscholarly troll, coping, saying he won't debate, he won't, he won't read Carrier's response, uh, rebuttals in his uh blog, he won't read the rest of his book, he just goes, He's a bad scholar, nobody takes him seriously.
	He is a disgrace to all PhDs everywhere, but it's very indicative if Kip Davis's behavior is anything like the rest of the behavior of the consensus of the historical Jesus.
	We can see why this consensus is wrong.
	If they're all acting like him and this shoddy work, it says a lot about how strong this consensus is and what it means.
	And again, this consensus started with a bunch of Christians that could never admit that Jesus was not a historical person at all to the suffering of the servant in Isaiah.
	The word Eved, which means servant, is completely absent from this text.
	You never said it was in there.
	See, he says these little things.
	We never said that it said servant in Melchizedek, it cites Isaiah 52.
	The point is, is that ancient Jews in Qumran were trying to figure out, oh, what's our Messiah Messiah age going to look like?
	And what do they do to learn about it?
	They look at Daniel 9:25, which is right before where it says the Messiah will be cut off, and they look at Isaiah 52, which is right before the suffering servant of Isaiah 52:53.
	This is what they did.
	They look all over the Psalms, like I showed also.
	And he's just ignoring the actual argument and trying to be pinpoint little things of arguments that aren't the argument, missing the whole point itself is nowhere cited in this entire text.
	There is only this one citation of Isaiah 52, verse 4, and it introduces the scripture announcing the good news of Yahweh's rule.
	The interpretation then connects this figure to what it calls the anointed one of the spirit spoken by Daniel.
	That's all that appears within this text to connect Isaiah with Daniel.
	And within the culture of Jewish scripture exegesis, in which the original contexts of these passages is completely ignored, you can't make the argument that Carrier is attempting to make here, especially considering that Isaiah 53 is nowhere mentioned or cited within this text.
	The second problem everybody knows that it talks about the suffering, the servant, God's servant, in Isaiah 52.
	Also, he's just trying to like move the goalpost, and it's like, well, it doesn't say it in there, uh, it doesn't actually say that word in there, but he's missing the overall argument that this is a midrash searching the scriptures to find out what the Messiah is.
	That's obviously what happened here with Christian apology.
	So, the main problem within the wisdom of Solomon, as Carrier has presented it, is that he continues in this conflation of the representation of a group through a hypothetical individual.
	And then, so he's saying, Oh, wisdom of Solomon is about a group, not one Messiah.
	Have we not already gone over that they take things out of context?
	He knows this.
	He's just trying to, he's trying, he's rage reading, trying to find any little thing he can pinpoint, making up stuff that's not even there, and won't even read the whole book and says the whole book's trash, even though he hasn't read it.
	That's how sloppy and lazy and disgraceful scholars like Kip Davis are.
	He extrapolates from descriptions of this figure, the righteous man, what he calls a narrative that could easily have been taken by some as referring to the Messiah.
	Of course, prove it, as is typical for him by summarizing the text as opposed to publishing direct citations.
	Carrier then is obfuscating the meaning of a text like this.
	Wrong, he just lies.
	He goes, Oh, he's he even says, Oh, I can't check all of his citations.
	I can't read the book, I can't check the citations.
	And then he goes, But you're wrong, and I won't debate you either.
	It's just pathetic on pressure logic.
	So, so we know this from Quran, we know from many other examples.
	Jews are no longer interpreting the Old Testament in the way it was originally intended.
	So, just give up on trying to get to the original intention.
	Um, godless engineer on YouTube, and yeah, he's a cringe, liberal, stereotypical, neckbeard atheist, right?
	But he does a fantastic job exposing the Jesus myth.
	He just did a response, Kip Davis's failed response to Richard Carrier's expert citations.
	He did this.
	This is Kip Davis's crucial mistake in his carrier analysis.
	Let's see.
	Tim O'Neill is still wrong about these four mythicist talking points.
	You guys should all follow this guy for his Jesus mythicism.
	Kip Davis responds to the suffering and dying Messiah, but doesn't read the footnotes.
	Carrier goes on his show a lot.
	They do total destruction.
	There it is, decoding Paul's view of Jesus.
	Anyway, he's a little cringe, but he does a really good job exposing the Jesus myth.
	And if you guys, I suggest you all watch it.
	Kip Davis's channel.
	He did these three videos.
	I mean, who does three videos trying to refute Carrier when you didn't even read half of his book?
	You don't even understand his arguments.
	One host said, Hey, can you steal man Carrier's arguments?
	Like, explain what he thinks, and he couldn't even do it.
	And then he goes on a whole like media press tour on all of these lame channels and their little click trashing carrier everywhere.
	It's truly pathetic.
	They are acting like a bunch of insecure, threatened babies, frantically trying to keep the house of cards from collapsing.
	Carrier has exposed that the emperor wears no clothes.
	Jesus didn't exist.
	He's started as a mythical character.
	And they're all losing their mind about it.
	No one can debunk the Easter bunny.
	That's a good point.
	All right.
	What, two hours and 15 minutes?
	Thank you so much.
	Super shout out to John Garatis.
	Who else do we have here?
	John Garatis for making this show.
	Everybody give him a round of applause.
	And this would not be possible if it were not for him.
	Or for all of you, but especially today, his support.
	He's been a great supporter.
	Okay, stop that.
	And I've got more.
	This is only part one so far on the Midrashic Jesus.
	We got to get into the Bart Ahrman stuff later on.
	And I got a bunch of other news.
	I'll probably be back tomorrow.
	We got Rabbi Roseanne.
	We got some other good new clips from See Through It All, Rabbi Tobia Singer, some other important stuff to cover.
	So we got some good shows coming up.
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	I can't wait to see what you guys have to say in the comments about all of this.
	I welcome any legitimate good faith criticism about this Midrashic theory of where the idea for Jesus came from.
	I already know nobody's going to have anything.
	It's going to be crickets.
	That's all I hear from these atheist gatekeepers, from these Christian cultists trying to keep their Jewish superhero, Jesus, alive.
	So look forward to reading the comments.
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