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	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to No More News.
	I am Adam Green.
	It is Thursday, August 10th, 2023, and I have a powerful show for you guys today.
	A long time in the making.
	For so long, I have wanted to talk, do a stream, have a discussion with a real, authentic Kabbalah rabbi.
	And today is the day I have joining me a rabbi Abraham Ben-Yaakov Greenbaum is an internationally known Torah teacher, author of over 25 books, and one of today's foremost English-speaking exposers of Hasidic and Kabbalah and their practical contemporary relevance in personal growth and well-being.
	He is an extraterrestrial soul, a one-time BBC hack commentator and a perennial Torah student and teacher, a real life Kabbalah rabbi from the holy mystical Kabbalah city in Israel coming to us from Israel.
	Rabbi Greenbaum, thank you so much for being here.
	How are you doing?
	Well, after an introduction like this, all I can do is cover my face.
	I'm not a real Kabbalist.
	You know, there's a famous saying that somebody who says does not know, and somebody who knows does not say.
	So if I say, it's obvious that I don't really know.
	And whatever I really know, I probably might not say, but let's go ahead.
	It's a pleasure to see you again, Adam.
	Well, I do want you to say what you do know.
	I want total transparency, total truth.
	I want to have a deep conversation with you.
	And you are a Kabbalist.
	You've been studying the Kabbalah and the Zohar and translated books.
	You're in rabbi circles, you are world famous, world renowned.
	I wanted to ask, have you ever, in your career as a rabbi, had a stream with somebody such as myself, a critic of Judaism and Kabbalah?
	Well, most of the time, yes.
	I mean, we're in an era where everything is open to criticism.
	And before I was like old and gray and respected, people said whatever they wanted to say to me.
	So I've been in discussion with many, many different kinds of people, yes.
	On streams before?
	Anybody notable that I would have heard of?
	Not on screen, no.
	And of course, before I entered my Torah sort of incarnation at the age of 25, 26, I was myself agnostic or at times an atheist.
	So I had sort of discussions in my own head a lot of the time, but not with anybody, certainly not anybody with your statue and your honesty and your penetrating insight.
	So I'm looking forward to this.
	So also wanted to note, you are Adam King's rabbi.
	You've known him for a long time.
	That's how I discovered you from you doing interviews with him.
	I know you saw our discussions.
	Have you had a chance to see any of my other compilations or videos?
	I'm interested.
	What do you think in what I've been doing?
	Honestly, very little.
	I really have not looked.
	Just very, very briefly.
	I mean, I could have, I sort of got a general idea and also from some of your tweets about maybe the perspective.
	And of course, we had our private discussion a couple of weeks back, which gave a lot of insight to me.
	But honestly, Adam, I have not looked at your output very much.
	Okay.
	Just wanted to know, you know, figure out where you're coming from.
	You've got a YouTube channel as well, titles like Secrets of the Future Temple and Tisha Ba'av, a bunch of interesting stuff.
	I've been watching a few of these, How Judaism Survives.
	Who is that Goy?
	This is the one I watched yesterday.
	Tell me about this.
	That's a book you authored called Who Is That Goy?
	Well, this is a subject right up your street, I think, because I got into internet in 1994 with the intent of presenting what I myself had studied as a sort of awakening, a sort of you might call reborn Jew with people that I thought would be from the same kind of background, Jewish.
	So this is in 1994, 95.
	And by the end of the 1990s, I started getting many emails from people who were either Christians or ex-Christians, people calling themselves Ephraimites.
	And that really forced me to think about what, to whom are the teachings that I was trying to promote relevant.
	Are they relevant to people who are identifying as Jews, identified as Jews, or are they for people who are outside of the Jewish spectrum?
	So this thing that I wrote called Who Is That Goy, which is available for download on Azamba website, is a work that I wrote a couple of years back summarizing.
	I deliberately called it by a provocative title.
	I mean, you know that the Jews call the non-Jews Goyim, and the Jews know we call the non-Jews Goyim.
	And the word Goy sounds pejorative, but it's really not.
	And I tried in this work of which that video is a sort of little echo to explain how Torah relates to non-Jewish people because there are very strict prohibitions in the Talmud against Gentile idolaterer from either studying the Torah or from observing the Sabbath.
	And my question was with all of these clearly non-Jewish people from literally all over the world sending in emails to Azamra asking what relates to them.
	I had to figure this out for myself.
	And this touches on a subject that I know you have been into very deeply, which is the code of the Noahides.
	So I've been trying to define exactly which aspects of the overall Torah in the five books of Moses relates only to the children of Israel and which aspects would relate to all of humanity.
	So that is the, in a nutshell, the subject of who is that Goy.
	It's an analysis of Talmudic and Jewish legal sources as to different statuses, of which there are more than you might think.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So Noahide laws, but one thing I wanted to comment on there, you said that Goyim is not a pejorative.
	And I know the actual translation of Goyim just means nations, the non-Jewish nations of the world, but you do have to concede that there is a negative view towards the Goyim and it's associated with being like a lesser soul or kind of like cattle, also it's compared to.
	Like there is, it is used in a derogatory, pejorative way a lot of times, right?
	So we have to distinguish between, you know, the way different people use a word and the way that scholars or students who are seeking for clarity and truth will try to define the word.
	In fact, in my work, as I said, I deliberately use the term who is that goi because, yes, it's used as a pejorative, just like Yid or Jew boy or Yankee is used as pejorative.
	You know, we're all nigger, all of those.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Don't get me censored now, Rabbi.
	You've been censored also.
	You said you had your books banned from Amazon.
	That's true.
	I find that amazing.
	That's correct.
	But why do you think that was?
	Were you sharing quotes from rabbis that were like supremacists or something?
	Why would they ban you?
	Well, at the time of the ban, which coincided with the immediately after the 2020 presidential election in USA.
	They were banning everything then, right?
	I've been quite vocal on social media, particularly Facebook, against the present incumbent in the White House.
	And I have the feeling that this was one possible reason for the Amazon ban.
	The other was that I think that the idea of one of the books I published was called Secrets of the Future Temple.
	And you cannot escape the fact that the future temple prophesied by Ezekiel is going to stand on a highly contested and politically sensitive spot.
	And I suspect that that might have been another reason why Amazon sort of canceled our account.
	Otherwise, why did I do that?
	I really cannot fathom.
	So that's interesting.
	And we'll get into the temple, obviously.
	But first, just for a little more background knowledge, tell us about your work at Azamra Torah for our time.
	This is you.
	You're like a pioneer for rabbis getting online early.
	So is Chabad also.
	But your work here and your work with the Noahide laws.
	You're a big advocate for the Noahide laws, right?
	Well, I was when I returned to my Jewish roots in my mid-20s, I was working as a BBC journalist, a hack, as I mentioned, as a so-called commentator.
	And I was discovering all this very amazing Torah teaching, which spoke really to my heart.
	And I felt an obligation as I was beginning to learn Hebrew myself to translate it into English for the benefit of others searching like me.
	So we started off in 1980 with print publications and published many books from 1980 through to the 90s.
	As I said, I got into internet in 1994 and put up a website.
	As you say, the first guys on the internet were Chabad and Breslev and Azamra.
	So my goal has been to make all of this wisdom that I translated available online without cost so that people could browse it anywhere instead of having to buy a physical book.
	I noticed this book here, 138 Openings of Wisdom.
	This is a Tapa Kabbalah book that you translated from Haim Lozato.
	Yes, that was one of the two books that Amazon banned.
	It had been in print for since 2005.
	And we put it up on Amazon, I think, in 2018, but they banned it in 2020.
	It is a comprehensive introduction to the wisdom of the Kabbalah from a somewhat philosophical viewpoint by one of the outstanding 18th century Kabbalistic masters, Rabbi Moshe Chamutsato.
	It's very abstract.
	It would be very difficult for anybody without some background to figure out what it's talking about.
	But this book is actually the fourth in Rabbi Letzato's Ladder of Ascent into this wisdom, of which the first volume, which I'm sure you might find interesting, is called The Way of God, published by Feldheim Publishers, which is a single one-volume introduction to what Torah really asks us to believe.
	Very succinct and very clear.
	Whether you want to agree with it or not, it might be the next stage in your conversion.
	Oh, is that the goal?
	You think you're going to convert me?
	Well, that is the goal, right?
	You want me to be a Noahide.
	That's my purpose in the world.
	We want you to be your real you, Adam.
	That is the most important thing.
	You'll be your authentic God-given you.
	So I've heard this name before, Rabbi Moshe Haim Lozado.
	I have a clip from a book written by a Jewish scholar that we'll get to later, but I wanted to start off with a more macro level question for you.
	What do you see in your own words, your belief of what the Torah's objective is?
	What is the ultimate end game and goal of Judaism and the Torah?
	What is the world to come look like and when is it coming in your eyes?
	If you could just give us a little brief synopsis of what the Jewish end times prophecies are going to look like.
	Well, it's all a matter of what we call Emuna.
	Emunna, people translate it with the word faith or belief, but the word Emunah comes from a Hebrew root that means to affirm something very powerfully, that you're so intent on sort of knowing this in yourself that you actually see what you believe in.
	What is the goal of the Torah?
	The goal of the Torah is to enable humans to come to some connection with and knowledge of the creator of the universe.
	So where Emuna comes in is because we believe that the creator of the universe is invisible, intrinsically beyond all human knowledge, but shares his essence with us through the words Of the scripture, the Hebrew Torah, the five books of Moses.
	And the five books of Moses directed to clearly to all humanity because it speaks about how the nations of the world will, how, for example, in Deuteronomy, at the end of days, the Nachri,
	the stranger, the Gentile, will come and see the appalling destruction and understand the moral lesson of this rise and fall of Israel and ponder the justice of God.
	So it's clearly directed to everybody to define exactly how we are to perceive and connect with God is really impossible because it is intrinsically beyond our intellectual comprehension.
	The Torah teaches that when we observe the precepts of the Torah, you get into the rhythm of daily prayer, of acts of kindness, of acts of charity, of the weekly Sabbath, of the festivals.
	You enter a lifestyle which primes you to open your awareness to the divinity in the creation.
	And so that would be true both for Israel, who've been the people of Israel, the children of Israel, who, through the merit of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, were called to bring this teaching to humanity to guard the teaching.
	And the lesson to all of humanity is that everyone has the ability to share in this ultimate goodness.
	So that in a nutshell, if that makes any sense to you.
	Yeah, I heard one word you used was affirm.
	So it's like the nations are affirming that the Torah is the word of God and are worshiping the one true God, the God of Israel.
	So the Jews were chosen as the nation of priests to be the lighten to the nations to bring the Torah and the God of Israel to the nations, right?
	That's fair to say.
	I do prefer to use the expression the children of Israel were chosen to bring the Torah to the nations because the term Jew has become so abused and so ambiguous as to be meaningless in this concept when we see that many people who are considered Jewish have no connection with this project whatsoever, prima facie.
	So that's why I prefer to use the expression of the children of Israel who are not necessarily identical with all of the people that are considered the Jews today.
	They might be far more extensive.
	We believe that there's children of Israel who souls have been submerged within the nations because of all the exiles and the assimilation.
	And so there's many Israelite souls out there among the populations of the world.
	Okay, so the children of Israel were chosen by God to be the nation of priests to basically get the world, the nations, to abandon their idol worship and worship the God of Israel as Noahides.
	That's like the basic agenda, right?
	I would say that's more or less, yes.
	And would you say, how does because Christianity got the nations to abandon their idol worship and worship the God of Israel, and Islam also affirms, is Noahide compliant.
	So is Christianity and Islam fulfillment of Jewish prophecy, Torah prophecy?
	Well, you may be familiar with a passage at the end of Rabbi Moses Maimonides' comprehensive code of Torah law, the Mishnah Torah, that is Rambam, in the final section, the laws of the laws of kings, the closing chapters, the teachings about Messiah.
	And over there, he gives his definition based upon the Torah prophets of the task of Messiah.
	And there he does speak about Yeshua the Nazarite and alludes to the Ishmaelite who came after him.
	And he says there that hidden are the workings of God.
	And that clearly these two faiths have brought teachings of the Torah throughout all of the world.
	And in that sense, they can be seen as a preparation for the ultimate revelation of Melech Moshiach.
	So I would say that it would be the definitive rabbinical answer to that question, that the workings of God are inscrutable and that somehow both Christianity and Islam have brought knowledge of the one God to the wider world, but with a very important qualification that clearly something is very amiss with the established religions of our time.
	And so exactly how they are performing this role today is even more inscrutable with all that's going on in the world of the clergy on all sides.
	So Christianity has done some evil, but ultimately it has brought good to the world because it got the nations to leave idol worship and worship the God of Israel.
	But is in your view, I know this is disputed among rabbis, is Christianity idolatrous and not following the first of the Noahide laws?
	Do they violate the oneness of God?
	You cannot make a single blanket assertion about Christianity, especially since Christian theologians themselves have for centuries been disputing the fundamentals of Christian theology.
	And from the earliest times, there were disputes about the concept of the Trinity and the concept of whether Jesus was divine, was God, was the Son of God, was a prophet.
	So there's many, many different ideas here.
	I think that the authoritative rabbinical view of Yeshua himself is one that can be found expressed in the writings of Rabbi Jacob Emden,
	known as the Yabbits, who was living in the mid-1700s at a time when there was a Sabbathan conspiracy to have Jews convert to Christianity in Europe, particularly in Poland and Ukraine.
	And Rabbi Jacob Frank the first to do that, convert to Christianity in Poland?
	It's precisely this.
	Jacob Frank claimed to be an incarnation of Shabtait Svi, and he was converting Jews to Christianity in the city of Kamenets, where he had the protection of the bishop.
	And there was a big disputation between rabbis and the Frankists in Kamenis.
	But the point I'm making is that Rabbi Jacob Emden, who was then in Germany, wrote to Christian friends of his denouncing the Frankists, but stating that Yeshua, Jesus, had been a righteous person that was preaching the seven Noahide commandments to the nations.
	So that would be the view of an authoritative rabbi of the actual historical Jesus as to what later Christian writers and particularly the established church made of that and built it up into.
	When you see people sort of bowing down and kneeling at the foot of statues and talking to the statue and all kinds of other things, without wishing to be invidious, but clearly this is not in line with the prohibitions of idolatry.
	I understand.
	And so the Jewish view is that Jesus was a righteous man.
	He was a Jew, he was killed by the Romans, and that he was, it was the Christians and the Gentiles that later perverted his Judaism and made him added in the Trinity, which makes it in violation of the Noahide laws.
	I don't think I could agree.
	This is the Jewish view, because most Jewish people today are extremely suspicious of anything to do with Christianity and Jesus and don't even want to refer to him by name.
	What I quoted to you was the writings of a rabbi, Rabbi Jacob Emden, and an authority, but not one of the regular mass of the people.
	And I think if we are trying to attain clarity, we have to go to these sources and not just accept, you know, stuff flying out in the wind from the mass of people who have no real understanding.
	So.
	Can you share me your thoughts about how Christianity is related to Esau and Edom and how Esau, as the sages say, Esau hates Jacob and like the role of Christian anti-Semitism and Judaism?
	Like I'm reading a book, The Paradox of Anti-Semitism.
	I've heard many rabbis say that the Christian anti-Semitism from Esau, how that is important to the Jewish identity and the without it that like Jews would assimilate and disappear.
	Can you share your thoughts on those views?
	Well, all of this can be seen from the five books of Moses itself, which warn the children of Israel not to integrate with the seven Canaanite nations or the surrounding nations.
	And we see throughout the ensuing so-called Old Testament, Joshua, Judges, Samuel Kings chronicles that they did precisely the opposite.
	They learned from the gods of Moab and Ammon and Edom and Tyr and Syria and all the rest of it.
	And this has been the sort of Israelite flaw throughout the generations.
	And so, in a sense, when the book you mentioned speaks about how the Satan, the accuser, gets up, he's the one who actually keeps the people on track.
	He won't let them go too far away.
	And so we can certainly look at the role of anti-Semitism, let's say, in both in the Islamic countries, or let's say, let's call it discrimination against Jews, whether under Islam or whether under medieval and later Christian countries until fairly recent centuries,
	the various disqualifications, they did serve to whether the Jews wanted to assimilate or not to keep them separate, particularly when you start saying people have got to go around wearing yellow stars and other kinds of distinguishing features and pay special taxes.
	So as to your basic question about the role of Esau and in relation to the church, here we're dealing in the we're entering into the realm of sort of religious mythology, what in Torah is called Agadah.
	And also Kabbalah, I mean, we see in, for example, the Zohar, surely, that Esau, Edom, and Ishmael are seen as the two poles of humanity, the two major influences.
	And who exactly they are to be identified with is open to question.
	Originally, when the rabbi spoke about Aram, which they identify, they were talking about Istanbul, which was actually the meeting point between Christianity when Constantine moved the Roman capital to Istanbul, Constantinople.
	And first of all, it was a Christian empire, and then the Muslims captured Constantinople and turned it into a Muslim stronghold, which it is until today, more so today than for centuries.
	Now, tracing all this, how it actually works out through history.
	Yes, the Torah says that Esau was the firstborn because he was born of the first of two twins, and that his mother, Rebekah, felt that he was not the right one to receive the birthright, namely the priesthood.
	And therefore, she devised a scheme that Jacob would get in there and take the blessings.
	And so Esau is from the start conceived as the antagonist of Jacob.
	More than that, Esau is even identified with the serpent.
	In other words, the sort of spiritual force that is animating Esau, giving his power, is considered to be the root of impurity.
	How this plays out with actual peoples and nations, I think, is, you know, we're here in the realm of speculation and too often sort of abuse.
	And I'm not sure quite how helpful it is.
	Without doubt, in many popular Jewish thinkers who say, yes, it's quite obvious that Edom, Esau, that's the church, the West, you know, and that Ishmael is obviously all the Ishmaelites, whether we can actually go Muslims, just so people know that Ishmael represents the Muslims.
	So whether it's quite as simple and plain setting as that, because for one thing, it's an explicit statement in the Talmud that when Sennacherib invaded Israel, and first of all, he exiled the 10 so-called lost tribes.
	He was one of the first to engage in population transfer.
	And in the Talmud, it's really stated that in later times, categories like the original Moabite or Ammonite or Edomite or Egyptian were no longer applicable because Sennacherib had mixed up all of the nations.
	And so that is precisely why it's so difficult to identify, you know, who's who among actual real people and how helpful these actual distinctions are.
	Certainly, in terms of how a devotee of the Torah would read the, let's say, the Christian scriptures or the Islamic scriptures, one might look at them with this concept in mind that, oh, well, this side is coming from Ishmael, that side is coming from Edom.
	But it's very simplistic.
	And I do say that the truth is that Torah commands us to love all of God's creations.
	We have no tolerance for people who are killers intentionally, who are robbers, who are engaging violence.
	But while we do believe in the paramount importance of true and uncorrupted justice, we also believe that it's our obligation to seek to love all of the creations and not to sow division and hatred.
	And I have found that I can relate equally to Muslims, to Christians, to atheists, to people from other traditions.
	You just have to be like, if I may permit it to use the word here, a mensch.
	You have to have politeness and basic human decency and a true search for truth and honesty.
	Well, I can agree with that, that last part there.
	So let me back you up.
	You said that Esau is his soul is related to the serpent.
	I've heard Esau is related to Cain, also the evil firstborn son, and the serpents in the garden, they're related.
	So if the oversoul, if the minister in heaven of Esau is Samael or Satan, and this is associated with Jesus, I know that Isaac Luria believed that Jesus, Yeshu, was the reincarnation of Esau.
	So does Christianity and Jesus represent the satanic antagonist in Esau in this like Judeo-paradigm that's been playing out?
	Well, I think we have to take this back even further.
	If you brought up Rabbi Itzak Luria, the Ari, who was the 16th century Kabbalistic master, we have his work, the Sha'ar Agil Ghulim, the gate of incarnations, which is one of the eight main sections of the Kabbalistic writings besides the tree of life.
	The Sha'agil Gulim, the gate of incarnations, takes back the history of the souls all the way to Adam, Cain, and Hevel, Abel.
	Now, these are the root souls of all humanity.
	And the point to understand is that although people popularly perceive Kayin as being sort of wicked, the killer, the murderer, for one thing, he was the firstborn.
	And for another thing, he was not entirely wicked because he inherited good as well as bad from Adam.
	And the same is true of Abel, who was not entirely righteous, who considered good and evil.
	That is a very important point in relation to your question, because Cain can be redeemed.
	Esau can be redeemed because they have this aspect of good from the original pre-sin.
	Are we seeing Christianity be redeemed?
	Is Esau and Christianity repenting for the past persecution and heading towards a Noahide, a Noahide-type Christianity?
	Do you see that happening?
	Well, I personally, I think it's all up to individuals.
	I don't see the establishment institutions changing very much in any direction because in my experience today, most of the establishment is, forgive me the expression, rotten to the core.
	And to expect any radical changes from people who are earning salaries from institutions, they tend to perpetuate what they're doing.
	So I see the real change coming from the individual shift in consciousness of people like you and me and our friends and our networks.
	That's what's important, the awakening of actual real people on the ground.
	And that is the most important single thing.
	Whether, you know, will Christianity repent or not?
	Hasn't the Catholic Church and the Protestants largely done a lot of repenting and admitting that they were wrong?
	I even saw one of the popes said that the Catholic Church bears the mark of Cain for shedding the blood of the Jews.
	Were you aware of that?
	He may have done.
	I don't know what they, I don't follow what they say.
	But with all the official declarations, many of the actual personnel in the places of worship are continuing to spew the same kind of teachings that have traditionally fermented hatred of Israel.
	So all the official declarations won't do much if on the grassroots there are still many entrenched people who are still holding to the old way.
	Again, I think that, you know, the most important thing is not to expect it to come from institutions, but from individual people like yourself and myself and all of our friends who are waking up to a whole new reality because we're not living in the same world that existed before internet technology and present day communications and travel.
	It's a whole new world.
	So we have to, we need a different awakening of consciousness.
	What do you say to Christians who say that your covenant Is over and that the new Jews are the Christians and the Christians are God's chosen people now and that you're evil for rejecting Jesus.
	What's your brief response to people that say stuff like that?
	I really don't have a response at all.
	I mean, it's quite irrelevant to me.
	I have nothing to discuss with them.
	You know, it's like I'm really not interested in entering into those kinds of debates.
	It's just that standpoint is to me patently absurd.
	The covenant is alive.
	It's living proof that no matter what you may think of the country Israel and state of Israel, the very fact that after some 18 or 1900 years of no independent Jewish entity in this place, there is one today, whether you think it's satanic or not, nevertheless, it's definitely a sign that this people do have something going for them.
	So the rebirth of the state of Israel is proof that you still have the covenant?
	That's kind of what you're saying there.
	I don't think it's.
	There's no proof.
	There's no proof.
	There's no absolute proofs.
	I would say it's an indication.
	Look, return by Jews to Israel started long before 1948, long before 1897, long before there was Zionism.
	In the 8th, 9th, 10th centuries, there were righteous people coming to Israel.
	And that is proof that the country, before the state of Israel, there were major Jewish settlements in Sparta, in Jerusalem, in Hevran, in Gaza.
	And so any and today, the revival in the Jewish people of people like myself who are called Bali Teshuva, people who were secular, who were far from Torah observance, who have spontaneously come to Torah observance, Torah study, that itself is proof that this root, this plant is alive and they're growing.
	It's funny that you call it the root because even Paul in his letter says that the Jews are the root that supports you, so do not boast against them.
	But what do you say to people who say that Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism?
	It's a very tendentious point, and obviously within Jewish circles, there are extremely antagonistic viewpoints about this.
	If we put this in the historical perspective, Zionism only started in the 1890s.
	Prior to secular Zionism, there was a very powerful movement of Jewish yearning to come to live in the land of Israel, both from the Western Jews and from the Eastern Jews.
	There were migrations from Bukhara, the migrations from Iraq, from Yemen, from Morocco in the 1800s, as it were from Poland, Russia, and other countries.
	So I know that Guyona Vilna was calling for a return and sending group there as well.
	There were two major figures, as you say, in the 1700s, the Gaon of Vilna and the leader of the so-called Lithuanian stream.
	And then there was the Baal Shemtov, the founder of the Hasidic movement.
	Both of them wanted their people to come to live in Israel.
	And so did Rabbi Baal Shemtov's great-grandson, who is my major influence, Rabbi Nahman of Breslov, also told all his followers to come to Israel.
	So yes.
	And when you look at Zionism, they're the new boys on the block.
	Prior to the Second World War, the great majority of European Jewry were traditional, long-coated, dark-coated, bearded Chasidim, most of whom were murdered in the years of the Holocaust.
	And one of the effects of this is that that point of view, which is anti-Zionist, did not survive the Second World War with anything like the strength it had before the war.
	Now, exactly why that happened and who sort of arranged that on many levels, that is a question that can be discussed at length.
	It was not entirely pure innocence that so many of the Ashematic Jews were actually killed in the Holocaust.
	But let's not go into that at this particular moment.
	Another time we can talk about the Kabbalah of the Holocaust.
	That's how it is.
	In terms of Zionism, without question, the organizers of the Zionist state, those who founded it, wanted to cash in on the world's guilt over the perceived disaster of the Holocaust to set up the state of Israel.
	But what they did was they had to set up the state with the existing population that was there in 1948, of which I don't know exactly how many were Torah observant and how many were not Torah observant.
	But without question, the intention of the Zionists was to come up with a secular and a non-Torah Israel, which is precisely the Israel that we see today.
	And for that reason, people who observe the Torah are people who observe the Torah are very often not in agreement either with the stances or the policies or even the existence of the state of Israel.
	And certainly in terms of the messianic perspective, what the observant Torah Israelite is looking for is another theocratic state in the promised land in the sort of threatening sense of the word,
	but a state run not by corrupt politicians, but by wise elders and judges who must not have any financial interests in anything that they're discussing in connection with the state.
	And that is precisely the flaw of all of the contemporary governments across the world, that they're all run by crooks.
	Isn't the goal to have the Sanhedrin be in charge of Israel, the Sanhedrin, and then they will anoint a Moshiach, a Davidic king?
	Whether the Moshiach is anointed by Sanhedrin, that's another question.
	Without doubt, the Sanhedrin Has to be revived, but it must not be seen as the very evil group that the way they are portrayed in the Christian writings has been.
	Do you know them, right?
	Do you know the guys that are trying to reform the Sanhedrin?
	I've had some personal contact with a number of the people involved.
	Do I want?
	Do you have a spot on the Sanhedrin?
	Are you going to be one of the top rabbis?
	Completely unworthy.
	And anybody who elects me, I have no place.
	If they bring in a guy like me, what place do I have there?
	And just so people know, you live in the holy mystical city, like the top Kabbalistic city, Tasfat, right?
	Savat?
	How do you say it?
	That's correct.
	Sfat.
	Spat.
	Safed.
	That's written.
	S-A-F-E-D, but we call it Sfat.
	So you're just surrounded by Kabbalists, basically.
	Not at all.
	No.
	Asfat is a very modern 21st century city made up of a largely non-religious, secular population of Russians, Romanians, Moroccans, very mixed Ethiopians.
	There is a sizable population of Torah observant Jews.
	Quite a number of Brussels Hasidim and other Hasidic groups and some Kabbalists.
	But like I said before, any real Kabbalist, which is not me, is not going to be available to talk to the public.
	It's just not happening.
	Here's a really good question from my friend, Primordial Chaos Firstborn, which that represents Esau, right?
	Primordial Chaos Tohu, firstborn.
	He's talking about Esau, but he says, Hello, Rabbi.
	As many would know, Muslims are proud of their Ishmaelite heritage and their role as descendants of Ishmael is well known.
	Why is the Christian lineage from Esau more obscured and esoteric?
	Has this knowledge been deliberately hidden from Christians?
	Well, in the Bible itself, in the book of Job, the two of the major interlocutors are really very closely related to Edom.
	The first one, the most important of the three companions who come to talk to Job is Eliphaz.
	And Eliphaz is none other than the son of Esau.
	And Eliphaz in the book of Job is an entirely righteous, maybe a little too righteous character, but definitely from the line of Esau.
	And at the end of the book, when a fourth character comes in, that is Elihu ben Barachel, then he is considered possibly to be related to Esau.
	There's definitely a Kabbalistic view that Esau is going to be redeemed at the end of time.
	I have seen explicitly, and that Yeshu is explicitly mentioned in the writings of not Rabbi Moshechaim Lutsato, but one of his closest associates, Rabbi Moshe David Vali, who writes explicitly that at the end of days there will be a repair for the soul of Yeshua.
	And he doesn't flaw.
	The soul of Yeshua will be repaired.
	He will be Judaized.
	He will be made kosher, right?
	I have a book called The Return of the Kosher Pig that's all about that.
	Well, whether to say he's going to be Judaized, I think that is already...
	He was just in a foreign land.
	He was concealed among the Gentiles.
	The Jews did not recognize him like Joseph in Genesis, right?
	And you see, yeah, but I'd like to go back to if I would use the terminology of the children of Israel.
	And yeah, the children of Israel, definitely Joseph went into exile and was hidden and concealed.
	And in the end, Joseph comes out and he's the hero, he's the mighty one who saves everybody.
	Well, I don't mind if that would be the case.
	I mean, I'm suddenly not expecting any of these sort of eschatological sort of figures flying down from the heavens with wings and all that stuff.
	I think we are today witnessing the collapse of the world that we grew up in and the world that we knew.
	And we're entering into entirely uncharted waters.
	And where all of this is going to lead to, I certainly have no idea.
	I've seen Jesus by Messianic Jews, them saying that Jesus is related to Moshiach ben Joseph, which is also related to Esau, and that he's the Messiah of the Gentiles.
	He's almost like the anti-Messiah.
	He's the Messiah of Edom that brought Edom, that basically made Edom become Jewish in a way by worshiping the God of Israel.
	What do you think of Jesus as the first Moshiach that dies, Moshiach ben Joseph?
	I cannot take responsibility for what Jewish messianics or anybody else may have to say.
	I do certainly think that the Jesus that developed out of whatever the actual history was was a very useful figure.
	In other words, Moses is a very, for most people, very unrelatable, you know, very strict.
	He smashes the tablets of stone and he is involved in all kinds of very harsh judgments.
	Whereas this young, you know, long-haired youth is a very nice guy, you know, always there to help the underdog and to put out the nasty guys very quickly and easily without the underdog needing to, you know, he's the protector.
	So I can well understand why this figure was adopted by Rome.
	It was the sister of Constantine, I believe, who was the first convert from the imperial family to Christianity.
	And she's already writing to the early church fathers, why can't we have visual images?
	You know, we're Romans.
	We can't do without visual images.
	And it's precisely at that point that we have the visual element and the statues and all the rest of it.
	So actually, Rome takes over.
	So the figure you see, this figure who is very relatable to the Gentile, he doesn't ask too much of you.
	You know, just confess and say this very short prayer when you feel like it.
	And maybe if you can attend the church and, you know, be nice and turn the other cheek if it's not too difficult.
	But it's not very demanding.
	And this surely did appeal to many Gentiles.
	I put that very crudely.
	Because obviously, there's a very, Very great depth, whether you agree with it or not.
	The whole edifice of Christianity with all of the canon law and all of the developments is a very, very deep, deep, deep, and extensive thing, whether you like it or not.
	It's very, very powerful.
	Where it's headed in the future.
	I mean, we're seeing across Europe, you know, we see the churches burned down, they get turned into mosques.
	The Notre Dame in Paris gets burned down and turned into a woke sort of museum.
	And we see the spread of mosques across Britain and Europe and America.
	Obviously, the world is changing so rapidly.
	Nothing is like staying still for a moment.
	Okay, I got another question.
	This one's from Spencer.
	It says, ask the rabbi if he thinks Trump is part of messianic prophecy.
	Well, I find this a very painful subject because my personal impression is that Donald Trump has many, many supporters across the United States,
	not to speak about his supporters across the world, because he is seen as by many as a figure that is being persecuted by his political opponents who are weaponizing the justice system against him.
	And in this sense, it's very easy to see him as a messianic figure because Messiah is indeed persecuted.
	You know, the fear of the concept of Messiah, son of Joseph, is that the enemies will kill him.
	Now, there were some rabbis back in 2016 who wanted to see Donald Trump as the savior.
	And they were really getting into him.
	I was in contact with some of them who really saw him as the Cyrus who's going to give the green light to rebuild the temple.
	Well, clearly, that's not happening.
	Not yet.
	Not yet.
	Not unless he gets back in, right?
	Well, that's a whole other story.
	I don't want to speculate about what's going to happen.
	My personal hunch is that he's not going to get back in, and that if he does, he's not going to be able to do what he would like to do.
	But I don't want to offer that as a prophecy, and I don't even want to say if I hope that is the case or not the case.
	But how this relates, from the Torah point of view in the land of Israel, we can't really see the noose tightening around our throats with Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian authority in the stages of collapse being overtaken by extreme Hamas.
	We have daily terrorism here in the country.
	We have Iran breathing down our neck.
	So we and we have right now completely hostile United Nations, extremely hostile administration in Washington from the point of view of the Torah interest in the Holy Land.
	And so to ask whether Donald Trump is part of the messianic process or not, everything is part of the messianic process.
	But as we used to say in the BBC, when you don't know what's going to happen, you say, well, it remains to be seen whether he will be the Messiah or not.
	Watching how this is going to play out will be very, very interesting.
	So you mentioned all of the warfare going on in the Middle East, and there's Ukraine and Russia.
	You did a video with Adam King called the Kabbalah of Ukraine, I believe was the title.
	And I know a lot of Christian Zionists, a lot of rabbis believe that Gog of Magog is Russia, and they're teaming up with Persia, Iran, and Kushin Put, the African countries that Putin is now allied with, and versus the West and Edom in America, and that the prophecies in Ezekiel say that all the nations, Ishmael and Esau, are going to turn and try to surround and attack Israel, right?
	But then they're going to destroy each other, and that's Gog and Magog, right?
	That's all in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39, where the principal protagonists are God, king of Magog, which is sometimes seen as the 17 nations, but when he's called the head of Rosh Meshech and Tuval, the head of Meshech and Tuval.
	So Meshech is sometimes associated with the Mescovo, Moscow, and Tuval with Tbilisi, which is the capital of there in the area between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.
	Well, I think part of the problem is that everybody both wants and does not want the end of days to be happening now.
	Like people are so sick of the crazy situation we're in with all of this, you know, pandemic and inflation and war and everything else that they're just looking for signs of the magic, you know, the magic salvation that's going to, with the magic wand, the Messiah is going to just turn everything to be okay.
	The Savior is going to come.
	But to me, it does not look like that.
	You know, we've had dire periods of human history all along.
	And, you know, particularly the 20th century was stained with blood and pain and suffering in Europe, in Asia, in Africa, across the world.
	And now it doesn't look to me terribly much different.
	Maybe if everybody can wake up in time, we might get something better.
	But the prospect now do not look to me terribly encouraging.
	What do you believe is going to happen with the Third Temple and the Dome of the Rock?
	And if Trump does get back in and they work towards...
	Do you think that's happening soon?
	Well, you know, when I published my translation 23 years ago of Rabbi Moshe Cham Nasato's work on the Kabbalistic understanding of Ezekiel's vision of the future temple, I asked the Temple Institute in Jerusalem if they would add their name to the publication without any investment financially in the project,
	just because I felt it would be good for the book to have the backing of the Temple Institute.
	So they said, well, you can't call it secrets of the third temple because we are not ready to build the temple you are writing about in that book.
	We Want to rebuild the second temple?
	It is a commandment to build the temple, and we want to get up on the temple mount and build a new second temple.
	Well, I just personally don't agree with that because Maimonides in his code says that the next temple will be Ezekiel's temple and not the second temple.
	And I see no point in trying to rebuild something, which in any case is just going to, you know, politically throw the whole world on fire.
	And in terms of how Ezekiel's temple is going to come to the world, I have absolutely no idea whatever.
	You know, there's two rabbinical opinions.
	One, the temple comes down from the heavens, and the other is that humans build the temple around the prophetic blueprint.
	But right now, if it's going to come down from the heavens, maybe that's what the recent stuff about UFOs is priming us for.
	But don't be surprised if this, you know, billion-ton stone structure comes down from the outer atmosphere and descends on the Temple Mount.
	But let's look at it.
	In Ezekiel's prophecy, the dimensions of the future Temple Mount are 3,000 by 3,000 builders' rods, each of which is about two meters long.
	It's six cubits.
	Six cubits about three meters.
	So like 3,000 of those is how much you figure it out.
	Well, that's much, much larger than the present Temple Mount.
	The second temple, according to the tract date of the dimensions of the second temple and the Mishnah, the entire area of the temple itself was 500 of those measured 500 cubits by 500 cubits.
	So the future temple is like six times as in all directions.
	So that just does not fit with the geography of contemporary Jerusalem.
	That's a problem.
	That's a problem I haven't heard of before, but that's definitely could be an issue.
	If you look in Zechariah chapter 14, which speaks about the war of God in Magog, there it speaks about this great earthquake which takes place as the Almighty descends upon the Mount of Olives with all of the celestial hosts.
	Well, how that's going to be, I have no conception whatever, but I would say that if there is a major earthquake, then that will certainly, whether we like it or not, will change the face of the land for everybody.
	And after that, we'll see what's going to happen.
	So with the Abraham Accords, I've heard discussion of maybe convincing the Muslims to move the dome of the rock in Al-Aqsa to Mecca or something like that, or just to build it next to it.
	I've also heard that suggestion, or that an earthquake will blow it up, an act of God, and then it'll be rebuilt.
	I see Zechariah 14 about the earthquake.
	The Lord will be king over the whole earth.
	On that day, there will be one Lord in his name, the only name.
	Must be pretty good to be chosen by the God of the whole earth.
	Very special, special role there, huh?
	Let me now.
	This is, I was doing some preparation for the interview.
	I saw that you translated this book by Moshe Haim Lozato.
	I knew I heard that name before, and it was from this clip from a book that I read.
	It's called Judaizing Jesus.
	Juan Marcos, he's a Jewish scholar.
	Listen to what this rabbi has, and I want to get your thoughts on this.
	Rabbi Moses Hayim Lozato.
	Rabbi Muses Hayim.
	Can you hear it?
	Rabbi, can you hear that?
	Also known as the Ramhaw, is best known for his works, Mishnah Yeshalim and Derek Hashim.
	He was born in 1707 and died in circa 1746.
	A controversial Kabbalah and figure in his own right.
	Rabbi Muses Hayim Lozato adopted the standard medieval view of non-Jews.
	The Ramhael explained that the world was divided into 70 branches.
	The nations of the world are on the lower rung and represent humanity in its degraded state, whereas Israel represents humanity at the highest level.
	The lower status of the nations was a consequence of their ancestors that had rejected the Torah and not having overcome their animalistic carnality.
	If they had accepted the Torah, the highest runs would have been accessible to them.
	The nations were nevertheless obligated to the seven Noahide laws.
	While this constituted a lower level of service, it was still granted by God.
	The Jewish people's acceptance of the Torah enabled them alone capable of initiating a measure of Tikun so that good might prevail over evil.
	The current world order reflected an inversion of God's intended structure.
	When the people of Israel rule, a restoration of the world begins.
	When non-Jews are dominant, there is a diminished level of Kedusha, i.e., holiness.
	The nations themselves suffer because of this, since they are void of kedusha.
	Israel is destined to rule over the nations.
	Non-Jews, consequently, are on the rung of slaves.
	Israel is destined to rule the nations, and the non-Jews are likened to slaves.
	And hold on.
	If the non-Jews understand this reality, Rabbi Luzato notes that they will come of their own accord and from genuine love to serve Israel.
	A significant point of contention for Luzato was Christian claims that God had rejected the Jews due to their sins and replaced them with Christians as the new people of God.
	Lozato argued that Israel would reign over the Gentiles during the Messianic era.
	Israel will reign over the Gentiles in the Messianic era.
	You know, from a second, I would prefer to be ruled over by Israel than I would by the WEF.
	What do you think?
	I'd rather have neither.
	I did a thread on Kabbalah Judaism also, and I saw you in one of your videos mention the Tanya, right?
	So the Tanya written by Rabbi Zalman.
	He's the founder of Chabad.
	And there's something in the Tanya that is really disturbing to me.
	He says the souls of the people of the world emanate from the other unclean kelipa, which contain no good whatsoever.
	And it also says the reverse is true for the heathen nations.
	They are unclean while they live because their souls are drawn from the side of defilement.
	So, you know, I have a tier where people can donate to the channel.
	It's called the Kelly Pot Kabal.
	So is it true that the Gentiles and the Goim are viewed as the Kelly Pot and the Jews are viewed as the divine sparks of light that are concealed and held down in exile by the peel, the shell?
	Can you explain that to us?
	And I'm sure you could understand from my perspective.
	I don't believe in the God of Israel.
	I see you believe that your Jews believe that they're chosen by God and that our souls come from the evil other side.
	We're related to Esau, which is this primordial darkness.
	Also, it just seems like you guys hate us, that you think we're evil.
	So I can answer now.
	Yes, please.
	You see, I cannot take responsibility for everything which people say, particularly not for statements in translations where I might personally not agree with the way that they've been translated.
	And when you say you guys hate us, you know, like that's very provocative.
	I don't think you hate us.
	I don't think you're hateful.
	I think you're a very nice guy.
	And I don't hate you either.
	But I think that this is a hateful religion, a hateful ideology.
	It may be that hate and hate's not the right word.
	I mean, it does say God hated Esau, but to believe that your souls are better than other souls, like that's other people, if you're not chosen, people are going to take issue with that.
	You have to understand.
	No, I fully appreciate that.
	Firstly, let me just quote the statement of Hillil in the Ethics of the Fathers, where he says, Be of the disciples of Aaron, the high priests, loving God's creations and drawing them closer to the Torah.
	In other words, that is the very opposite of hatred.
	And the whole Torah of Hillel, which is the dominant school in the Talmud, is one of love and not of hatred.
	When it comes to understanding these concepts, that there are divisions between different souls as the tree of the souls, the souls from the side of holiness, and the souls from the side of unholiness.
	Again, I would like to return to my earliest statement.
	I am talking about the children of Israel historically, the history of Israel, and not specifically about the Jews.
	And when I'm talking about Israel, I'm talking about the souls of Israel and not necessarily the souls of particular Jewish people.
	What I'm trying to express here is that ever since Sennacherib, and certainly with all the migrations, ever since, and all the wars, the huge enslavements of populations, captivities, assimilations, all of the souls have gotten mixed up.
	And this is confirmed in the Kabbalistic writings in the Shar Hagil Ghulim, in the gate of the incarnations of Rabbi Itzad Luria, where a root non-Israelite soul might be incarnated in an Israelite and vice versa.
	It's all according to incomprehensible, inscrutable system of the cycling of souls.
	But that means that any given individual anywhere in the world today, who knows what his real identity is.
	And who knows?
	I go not by the way people self-identify, but by the way they behave.
	If a person goes around, you know, committing acting random acts of violence or murder and so on and so forth, then that person, to my mind, is not going to be one of the holy souls.
	Likewise, if I see someone in Israel who is identified as a Jew, who is preaching anarchy and social violence and all kinds of other evils, and there are people who are corrupt, leaders who are corrupt, I don't see that they are superior in any way.
	I don't see that the Sabbath desecrators and that the fornicators have any higher soul than anybody else.
	So I don't see this schema that you quote from the Tanya as being immediately applicable simply without further commentary to the way that we will relate to one another today.
	You may identify as Esau, you may identify as a Viking.
	You're free to choose whatever identification.
	What I like about you is your honesty.
	You're determined to get to the root of things and not to accept anything with eyewash.
	And that is what is precious about you, Adam.
	So I certainly don't hate you.
	And I'm not going to start off hating anybody.
	But I think it hasn't been good for Jews to believe in Judaism because it's like God punishes you.
	You're chosen, but you're to suffer.
	And that to believe that you're chosen by God and everybody else has inferior souls or our souls come from an evil side.
	I feel like it's just caused a lot of unnecessarily unnecessary division in the world.
	And one other thing, and then I got two more super chats and then we'll close it out because I know we're at time with you.
	But this is just something else that I read that disturbed me.
	The messianic idea in Judaism by Gershom Sholem.
	He's like one of the top Kabbalah academics in Israel.
	It says here, citing, I think this is citing Isaac Luria.
	He says, all Gentiles are referred to as profane in Kelipah, and Israel alone is called sacred.
	All the other nations are profane.
	And I guess that's spiritual impurity, but it says here that the forces of evil whose hold in the world is particularly strong among the Gentiles.
	I mean, it doesn't take much to see that, like, in Judaism, it teaches that our souls come from the Sitra Atra, the evil other side, and that we're Esau idol worshippers.
	It just, it feels very anti-Gentile to me.
	Well, I could well appreciate that.
	I mean, I grew up with Gentiles and I was friends through school days and college days and at work and pretty much until I moved to Israel.
	And since then, I've been in contact with many, many people.
	And I do fully understand how these kinds of quotations and doctrines could be taken as being very offensive.
	I certainly appreciate that.
	Okay, here's a super chat now, and we'll get you out of here like five more minutes.
	You good for five more minutes?
	Good.
	Okay.
	See through it all says, Jesus was accused of being the king of the Jews in John.
	Was this Jesus' sin or Rome's sin for subjugating Judea themselves?
	Rome's sin transferred to Jesus as the scapegoat who then transported Rome's sin out of Jerusalem.
	Let me summarize that.
	What do you think of Jesus as the scapegoat of Yom Kippur?
	Do you know of any relations there?
	Is Esau related to the scapegoat?
	Certainly the goat that is sent out to the wilderness on Yom Kippur is called by the Hebrew name Sa'ir.
	Sa'ir is a goat, and Sa'ir is also one of the aliases of Esau because the land of Esau was the land of Sa'ir, which biblically is in the Niger, the south of Israel, the mountain of Edom.
	And so there is definitely this association.
	You know, we're seeing today, let me cite an example.
	Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, we are seeing that the whole political discussion in America is being billed as between, you know, Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
	You know, I had a very interesting analysis by Russell Brand a couple of days back where he said the issue is not these two individuals.
	The issue is the whole system is totally corrupt because it's all governed by money and by protection and by all the other things that are being exposed today.
	And so we do see how, let's say, Donald Trump is seen as the scapegoat.
	You know, he is representing all the alleged, is there 80 million people who were set to have voted for him?
	I don't know the exact figures, but here it's very easy for the world, the public to represent the entire situation of being all around one individual.
	Maybe that's what the Romans did.
	They, like, tried to clean up this terrible thing that they did with these bloody persecutions and occupations by sort of presenting this figure and we're now righteous and we're now atoning and please forgive us.
	Is that what you're suggesting?
	I don't know whether that's true or not, but it's like, it's a good plot for a movie.
	All of this is a good, I feel like we're in a Jewish end times movie that's playing out in the real world.
	And what if we are?
	Well, I mean, with the belief in reincarnation and having these archetypal roles, like, it's by believing in the prophecies, they're almost manifested just by the belief.
	Like, if it was the prophecies that the nations would one day worship the God of Israel, Christianity made, fulfilled that prophecy by believing in the God of Israel.
	Do you think Christianity is fulfillment of Jewish prophecy?
	Well, not really.
	I mean, not specifically.
	I do think that the single thing that needs to be clarified is who exactly is the God of Israel because it's nothing to do with all of most people's preconceptions about the, you know, the way it's portrayed by Michelangelo and by the Renaissance.
	It's like total, you know, I heard a very interesting discussion by David Icke.
	He was interviewed by Alex Jones some time ago.
	Are you a fan of Alex Jones?
	I mean, I listen to all of them, but I'm not a fan or not.
	I just, you know, find all the different perspectives.
	Each one adds a little.
	What impressed me with David Icke, who I've been following for over 25 years, is that he does clearly begin to get it.
	He's getting the God of the Kabbalah, which is when we're able to widen the tiny spectrum of that we are sensitive to, of our sensory perceptions.
	We are to understand that we are infinite creation with all kinds of paranatural and supernatural stuff going on all around us all day and all night beyond our comprehension.
	We need to open ourselves up to something far wider, you know, like in the ways that I came to it, not through the synagogue, but through those Eastern meditations, which allow you to think out of the box, where you lift off your preconceptions.
	So I really hope we could talk about exactly who is this God of Israel that people are so suspicious about.
	Because when the truth will be, it's an open secret.
	And when people will open their eyes to this, they will see that it's the greatest bliss and joy.
	And I could only wish it on everybody.
	Hmm.
	You should get in contact with David Icke and do a show.
	I think people would be interested in that.
	Well, if somebody would like to make the introduction, I don't know how I'd do it, but it's a nice idea.
	Adam King is, I think, going to be on Alex Jones'show soon.
	Maybe he'll put you in contact.
	You can be on a panel with Alex Jones and David Icke.
	Wouldn't that be something?
	And get me on there, too.
	You can't do it without me.
	All right, here, another super chat.
	John Garada says, Who were the Hebrews before Judaism was invented?
	Why did they borrow so many myths from other nations to form their religion?
	Who were the Hebrews before Judaism was invented?
	Do you have any thoughts on that?
	You've asked a real big question, Justice.
	You promised me we're going to wind up now.
	Give us the elevator answer.
	Excuse me?
	The elevator answer, like the elevator pitch.
	A brief answer.
	I mean, as a believer in the Torah, I have to go by the genealogies and the history of the nations in Genesis, in the early chapters, chapter 9 of Genesis, where it gives all the generations of the nations.
	But in detail, how it was.
	I mean, obviously, there are many parallels because, you know, if you look from the perspective of Jungian psychology, there are human archetypes which we all share in common.
	You know, we've all sucked mother's milk from the breast of the mother and been through the birth channel and all kinds of other stuff.
	So, obviously, we're going to have lots of stuff all in common.
	But anyway, Adam, let's draw to a conclusion with how we can do this some other time if you're interested.
	It's been very stimulating, and I do thank you for your penetrating honesty.
	I appreciate you so much for your time, Rabbi.
	It's very interesting to talk to you and get your perspective on these things.
	Azamra Institute is your website.
	You're also on YouTube, on Twitter, if people want to follow to learn more about you.
	And I hope you check out more of my videos.
	Maybe I'll send you some links, and then we can have another talk sometime in the near future.
	Well, thank you very much, Adam.
	All right.
	Okay, I'll let you go.
	I got a couple other super chats, so I'll talk to you later.
	I'll end the call and finish up the show here.
	Okay, Adam.
	Take care.
	Take care.
	Thanks for your time, Rabbi.
	Bye.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Let's end that.
	All right.
	Very interesting to finally have a stream with my first real Kabbalah rabbi.
	I've talked to many Jews, but you can't say any as deep into the Kabbalah as he was.
	And I thought there were some very important things.
	um takeaways from that discussion uh let's read these last super chats here from john garatis says who oh wait yeah who were the hebrews we read that one another one from john thank you so much john rabbi greenbaum promised to get back on the show again it was very interesting listening to you and very daring for you to enter the lion's den yeah you got you got to respect it.
	You know, a lot of Jews will ignore me.
	They'll ban me.
	They'll block me.
	They'll call me anti-Semitic.
	And I always appreciate when a Jewish person is willing to have these conversations with me.
	Let's see here.
	We've got a couple more.
	I want to read.
	See-through-it-all says, Kabbalist Adam King said, Messianic era returns humanity to the days prior to the sin of Adam and Eve before the split.
	Had both sets of genitalia and was the exact image of God.
	Was Adam before the split the exact image of God?
	If Adam was saying that, I would guess that he would also agree with that, see-through-it-all, because this has been Adam King's rabbi for a long time.
	They probably don't agree on everything, but that would be my best guess.
	Let's see here.
	Any more that I missed?
	See-through it all.
	If you asked my first question, just shorten it.
	Was Adam before the split the exact image of God?
	Sorry, I'll ask that next time.
	I'll note it.
	Take note of that for when he comes on again, if he does.
	Let's see.
	Muslims.
	That was a good question, Primordial Chaos Firstborn, about how the role of Esau was obscured.
	Like, you ask the average Christian, nobody knows at all how they're viewed as Esau.
	But you ask the average Muslim, and they all go, Yeah, we're Ishmael, which conveniently is what the Jews believe they were before Islam was created.
	One of the smoking guns that I think both are part of this Judeo-dialectic.
	And it looks like that's all we have here.
	Let's see any of the other super chats.
	Saturday's debate.
	What time?
	What channel?
	I'll put the link up.
	I'm not sure.
	I think it's on a radio station.
	Let's see here.
	Ashes from Alexandria, they basically just admit everything we suspected, but in a nice way.
	That's why it's important to have these discussions because you can see, like, you know, I can give what I cover on my videos, my views on it, and then give them an opportunity to respond, and people can, you know, come to their own conclusions.
	Ultra God, great show, Adam.
	Keep up the great work.
	You're the tip of the spear.
	Tip of the spear.
	The real, the real piercing through the Judeo-Matrix.
	Abrahamic conspiracy.
	Now, Beowulf's bake.
	Torah for our time.
	He's spreading the Torah like Christians.
	He's a big advocate of the Noahide laws.
	All right, guys.
	Appreciate you all for watching and the support tonight.
	Can't wait to see what you guys have to say in the comments.
	Anybody that watches the videos, take some clips of this one.
	I know a couple points that I would like to clip.
	Oh, the big donation from Nagomatis.
	Thanks, Adam.
	Best, William.
	Appreciate you so much, William.
	Good to see you back again.
	Thanks for man.
	Without Nagomatis, guys, No More News would be in trouble.
	I wish you guys would help pitch in a little bit more so he doesn't have to drop so much.
	But deeply appreciated for making No More News possible.
	Everybody should thank Nagomatis.
	Big support from people like him makes what I do possible so everybody else can learn about this stuff for free.
	Ashes from Alexandria, much love, Adam Green.
	Get green pills.
	Absolutely.
	Oh, man.
	I was all day.
	I was at the computer working on my next video.
	I'm going to get into the mythicist historicist wars that are happening online right now, as well as the Melchizedek Scroll, which opens up a whole bunch of rabbit holes.
	My next big video, one of my next big videos is going to be about that.
	You guys stay tuned.
	I'm having a debate on Saturday with a Christian identity scumbag troll that's been lying about me for years.
	And I will be back next week with a bunch of very important videos.
	Love you all.
	Appreciate you all.
	See you again very soon.

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