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	Adam Green here with no more news.
	It is Thursday, March 30th, 2023.
	And today, joining me for the first time, my guest is a Irish storyteller covering videos on his YouTube channel on philosophy, psychology, religion.
	He's got some recent videos.
	One of them I covered on my show about how Christianity was ancient Rome's woke movement, as well as Nietzsche's brutal criticisms of Christianity have been creating a stir online recently, triggering many Christians.
	He has debated a few of the same Christians as me.
	We've got a lot to talk about.
	We're almost coming from a very similar place, but we took very different paths to get here.
	So, Uber Boya, Boyo, it's good to meet you, and thanks for being here.
	Sweet.
	Thank you.
	You can call me Steph for the easier shorthand.
	And thank you very much for having me on.
	And I guess I'll leave it to you to decide how we rock and roll with this.
	Sure, I got lots of questions, lots of stuff I want to talk about.
	We're going to go about an hour and a half, two hours.
	So maybe we'll have to do another one because I don't think we're going to be able to.
	There's a lot to talk about.
	I knew right away when I saw your video and checked out your channel that I needed to get you on to talk to you about these things.
	And before we get into Nietzsche and your latest videos and some other things, how did you tell us your backstory a little bit?
	How did you get into this?
	Yeah.
	Like it's not, it's not too dissimilar to actually an awful lot of people I talk to.
	It's somewhat archetypal.
	So I was in college, like everybody, well, like a lot of people these days.
	And while I was in there, I was in quite an innocent way.
	I wanted to improve.
	I wanted to become a better guy.
	I wanted to be more popular with the girls.
	I wanted to make art to be cool and make cool stuff and all this stuff.
	And so I was very interested in education for the sake of self-improvement.
	It's the same way as you go to the gym, you want to get bigger and stronger, these types of things.
	Now, when I was in college, I was studying literature because I was always very good with literature, good with writing words, Shakespeare.
	These are all things that I was very good at.
	And when I was in college, I was experiencing this discontent.
	I was getting educated in something called critical theory, which I'm sure you've heard of now.
	And it was very, it was not making, it was not teaching me how to write or teaching me how to be a great speaker.
	It was not teaching me all these skills that I wanted to ascertain in order to become more powerful and more strong.
	Instead, it was very heavy abstractions, very complicated stuff.
	And I was thinking, I thought it was stupid.
	It was the reason why I couldn't get away with it.
	And it was very sloggish.
	And it was Marx and it was Judith Butler and it was gender theory, critical theory, communist theory, all this type of stuff, Freudianism, the Frankfurt School stuff like this.
	And I was getting all this stuff shoved in front of me and I felt like I was not improving.
	I was not becoming a better speaker.
	I was not gaining tools that I could become better at my life.
	So I basically dropped out.
	But when I dropped out, I kind of said to myself, what I'm going to do is I'm going to, I have to, like, I love literature and I'm going to read all the stuff that they're criticizing because in critical theory, there's the Western canon, which is made up of like Shakespeare, philosophy, Plato, Christianity, all these things.
	And critical theory is the postmodernism thing you've probably heard of before that came in the 20th century that is critiquing the Western canon and pointing out why the Western canon led to various egregious things such as the colonial projects of the, you know, the latter half of the last millennium that led to the enslavement of the world and the tyranny of the Europeans warred upon the world.
	And so they critique this and they say, well, you know, this Western canon is phallogocentric.
	It's patriarchal.
	It's masculine.
	It oppresses women.
	It doesn't understand minorities and it oppresses those and stuff like this.
	And all of that stuff was getting educated to me, but I never sat down and read the Western canon.
	So I dropped out and I said to myself, feck and I'm going to read these books because I liked them when I was in high school.
	But now that I got to college, I basically haven't read any of them because I've been busy reading Karl Marx and Judith Butler and stuff like this.
	And so I went and I started to read Plato and I started to read the scholastics and the Christians and I worked my way up and basically got to Nietzsche.
	This is German philosophy of the last century.
	And I developed a foundational education in, like, I guess you could call it the Western perspective, which I think is going to be a very big topic to talk about because very powerful one.
	Now, one of the pinnacle moments of this for me was reading Genealogy of Morals, which I'd love to talk to you about.
	But I was quite young, and so I didn't fully understand what any of this stuff meant.
	It was the introduction to many of these ideas.
	Now, later in my life, then Jordan Peterson comes along and he talks about many of these people like Nietzsche and Jung.
	And he points out something that I never understood while I was in college.
	He was saying that these people trying to teach you Marxism and stuff like this are postmodern neo-Marxists.
	And they're actually bad people, full of resentment.
	They're trying to run a communist revolution and all this.
	I was like, what?
	That actually makes sense.
	That's exactly what happened to me.
	And around about that time, of course, was Trump and all this.
	And so there's this big reactionary movement that grew up online.
	And of course, coming along with that reactionary movement came an awful lot of like very, very hardcore dissident perspectives.
	They opened me up to like way more challenging, basically like an entirely anti-liberal thesis to the world, if you want to put it this way.
	And this had a huge effect on me because I actually realized that an awful lot of what Nietzsche was talking about, like this went, this really just colored my understanding of Nietzsche an awful lot more because Nietzsche was very much an anti-liberal philosopher in many ways.
	But maybe I should say anti-sort of modern left-wing philosopher, perhaps or something like this.
	It's kind of hard to categorize him.
	But nonetheless, I began to understand more and more of what he was talking about.
	And so, yeah, that led to an awful lot of very, very interesting things.
	And then among that, I, well, all right.
	Did you want me to stop there?
	And there's anything you'd like to ask?
	Oh, yeah, I got a question.
	Were you ever Christian?
	Were you raised Christian?
	Sort of.
	Like, I am somewhat saturated in cultural Christianity.
	And I think there's, and maybe we could talk about young.
	Like, I think it's quite difficult to escape from that.
	And it's quite dangerous to escape from that.
	And my mind was shaped by Christianity.
	You know, growing up, I said my prayers.
	My grandmother was extreme Catholic.
	But like, I'm also grew up in a modern liberal society.
	So Christianity was like demoralized in school.
	It wasn't really there and stuff like this.
	The church was a little bit of a joke.
	Like people would go to church, but no one actually believed that you went because of like Christmas and stuff like this.
	But I had a Christian upbringing, but it's weird.
	It wasn't like I speak to a lot of Americans who had a strict Christian upbringing.
	It wasn't like that at all.
	It was very much like a modern liberal Christian upbringing and basically like liberal European, if you want to put it this way.
	Europe's a weird place because it's very atheist.
	So it's kind of hard to describe.
	But yeah, so it's a little bit, but not a huge amount.
	And let's get into the woke Christianity, the video that really has got everybody fired up about that.
	This is, I loved it.
	I saw it.
	I played the whole thing on one of my streams, actually, and talked about it.
	I thought it was excellent.
	And I'm coming to a lot of the same conclusions, but not coming from Nietzsche.
	Like I've been saying that Christianity in ancient Rome was like the original great reset and it was the original.
	We literally changed our time, our dating system now, much later on, but it was still the same group of people to day zero when the Jewish savior was supposedly born, but also the great replacements.
	And I talk about how this fulfills prophecy that they wanted all the nations to worship the God of Israel.
	They did that.
	They accomplished that with Christianity.
	And then the takedown of Rome with Christianity, how they believe Rome is Edom and the descendants of Esau and Christianity represents Edom and how that has to be destroyed.
	And I've been covering that.
	So your video just like filled a gap kind of in this general topic that I've been covering.
	What are your thoughts on all that?
	Well, I can run through the thesis.
	I'm sure everyone's aware of it, but I could talk about how that came to me.
	And that will probably lead us into some very interesting questions.
	So I, as I said, read Nietzsche when I was younger and came across many ideas.
	He has this one called the Master Slave Morality, which I'm sure we'll dive into.
	And again, I was young, and an awful lot of it didn't have an awful lot of context.
	But then I got older and I started to see the reactionary right-wing movement and stuff like this.
	And a big part of that reactionary right-wing movement was discussion about the problem of race, I guess you could say, and demographics and immigration and whatnot.
	That was a huge theme in 2016.
	It was the whole kind of point of it.
	And the motif, the idea is that European people, Western people, are having a very serious, permanent transformation of their societies getting invoked upon them.
	There's a civilizational transformation getting installed right here and right now.
	And this is very, very dangerous.
	And an awful lot of people started to categorize that roughly as woke and things like this.
	Now, I spoke to like loads of people, loads of right-wingers.
	I would speak to an awful lot of people.
	I speak to people pretty much all over the spectrum, but I spoke to loads of right-wingers.
	And loads of my friends started to tilt right-wing then as well, especially after 2020.
	And they would always discuss this, they would describe this feeling of, it was like the West is dying.
	You know, have you seen the Chud memes on Twitter and stuff like this?
	Like the West is falling.
	The West is in decline.
	And there's this huge influx of people coming in, and our people are demoralized and they're not standing up for what's logical and they're not defending themselves and stuff like this.
	There's this weird demoralization happening where they're just allowing a communist revolution.
	In fact, they're helping some type of communist revolution take over the West and all these types of things.
	They have no sense to defend themselves.
	And it reminded me of this stuff I was doing dealing with Nietzsche.
	Like one day I was just sitting down and I was thinking to myself, it's like, what would it have been like at the end of the Roman Empire?
	And I realized that the pagans, the pagans, would have been the people experiencing what the Western Europeans are experiencing.
	And that kind of floored me because most of these right-wingers were nominally Christian.
	Now, this hit me with like this huge incongruence.
	Like these two things, this mathematics doesn't make sense.
	How can you have Christians and pagans?
	Like that's what's going on there.
	And usually when you're seeing a type of incongruence like this, it means there's a deeper first principle operating.
	And these two things aren't representative of the actual phenomenon.
	And so then I came across stuff like the demographic replacement that happened in Rome.
	And then compared it to, for example, the woke movement in Europe and all this type of stuff.
	And I started to see it.
	I started to be like, oh my God, what is happening here?
	So it looks like in Rome, there was this large, like the greed of the Roman elites brought in all these minorities, I guess you could say, these slaves.
	That's what it was.
	And this created this big, like about 30 to 40% power block that didn't have an identity.
	And they were essentially like, you know, a communist power, political power block that essentially became weaponized against the Roman traditionalist state by this new sort of savvy elite.
	Like I guess the way I describe it is that if you look at the communist revolution in Russia, you have the working class power block, the underclass power block that Lenin, these savvy rhetorical speakers like Lenin, took and they used in order to weaponize against the monarchs of Russia and rip it down and then put themselves into power.
	And they weaponize it against the middle class.
	And I look at Russia, I look at Rome and I saw the same pattern.
	These pagan middle class people and the pagan aristocracy had these rival aristocracy, this rival elite of Christians who were gathering these slaves from Judea and from all across the Middle East, to be perfectly honest, and crafting a new identity that suited them that was foreign to the pagans.
	They weaponized them successfully and used it to pull down the Roman Empire.
	And this is what Nietzsche would describe technically as a slave revolt or specifically a slave revolt psychologically.
	And this is the same tenor.
	This is the same emotion.
	And I started to look then at our age, like Jordan Peterson was saying, there's a neo-communist woke Marxist revolution happening.
	And I started to say, fuck, that's the same fundamental pattern that's going on.
	It's the same psychological stuff that's going on.
	It's wearing different dress.
	In communist Russia, it's wearing the dress of, you know, whatever you might call it, Bolshevism or atheist Marxism.
	Nowadays, it's wearing the dress of like racial grievances, I guess you could say.
	Back then, it was wearing the dress of Christianity.
	In the French Revolution, it was wearing a different dress as well.
	But it seems like it's all the same psychological mechanism, psychological pattern.
	And I just find that fascinating.
	And one day I just said, all right, you know what?
	I'm going to do is I'm going to make it into a video story and see what happens.
	And it's kind of blown up for you, huh?
	It's been really cool.
	I'm glad that there's somebody else out there that sees Christianity for the subversion that it is and is going to war with these Christians.
	And the slave mentality, like to all Christianity, and even Judaism to a degree, in Islam, is like the desire to submit and be a slave to Yahweh, the jealous, genocidal God, that if you don't believe in his power and his existence, you're going to burn in hell forever.
	And to Christians to consider themselves a flock of sheep following the king of the Jews, it really is a slave mentality.
	Christianity was extremely popular with the slaves and the poor and old women, old cat ladies in ancient Rome, right?
	Widows that had money, that's who they targeted.
	And then it was almost like an ancient QAnon in a way that's that where the Jews were the villains of the story and the Christians had the new covenant and they were saved now and they could have eternal life if they believe in the Jewish Messiah who was meant to rule them all along very conveniently.
	Do you think Christianity was a conspiracy?
	It's a good question.
	Like I've thought about this from time to time.
	Like was it a, you know, did the old, the original version of the Mossad in Judea set up some type of like master plan and then put this together.
	I think in order to control for something that sophisticated, that would be like so talented that I'd nearly be like, lads, he's actually did a good job there.
	Like I handed his, that was a good poll.
	It's worked incredibly well.
	And I was thinking about it, like you look at St. Paul, for example, and maybe that's the kind of character that's going on there.
	He was like, he orchestrated a communist revulsion against Rome or something like this.
	I also try to read Nietzsche and try to understand what he's pointing at because Nietzsche is very, he's a very, very difficult thinker to understand.
	But when you start to see what he's pointing out, it's quite a shocking one.
	Like he's very Mechanical.
	He looks for trends and mechanisms that are going on.
	And so he's pointing out the inherent problem with large populations of slaves and stuff like this, is that they have a specific grievance against the people who are ruling, I guess you could say.
	They're always going to resent the rulers.
	This is just a natural relationship because I'm Irish.
	And so we have a slave morality against the English that's completely independent of Christianity.
	It's nothing to do with any of that stuff.
	It's just the psychological relationship between the English conquering us and we've been bitter about it.
	And this comes with this very specific set of attitudes, which are quite suspicious, which is like, everything the English represents is bad.
	And so therefore, power, conquest, success, strengths, we all like point to those things and say that they're arrogant English traits that we should not have in Ireland.
	So there's one way that you could look at it where it's like almost like a natural phenomenon or a mechanistic phenomenon where Rome took in loads of slaves like an idiots.
	And out of Judea comes this ideology, which is actually grabbing onto the resentment of a large amount of those slaves.
	And because I guess the best thing I could say is because it's coming from the slaves, it's fundamentally chaotic and irrational and stupid and aimless.
	And the Jews completely lose control of it.
	In fact, the Jews try to crush it in Judea.
	And we can actually talk about that in detail if you wish.
	I'll give you Nietzsche's take on this.
	But they try to crush it in Judea, but nonetheless, it keeps on growing and it keeps on morphing and it keeps on transforming.
	So it's almost like this just, it's like some type of volatile wildcard that the Romans, in some sense, might have either been stupid enough to let into their culture or they might have thought that they were smart enough to co-opt it and take advantage of it themselves.
	The same way as you see like conservatives now trying to allow woke drag queens into their conventions and stuff like this.
	They think they can control this thing when they really can't.
	And it's something like this.
	So I'm not sure if that's a great answer, but it's a kind of complicated question for me.
	Do you think that Christianity, because you're Irish, you live in Ireland.
	I showed you my ancestry.
	I'm a quarter, Irish, Scottish.
	And do you think Christianity has been a blessing to Ireland or a curse, as Nietzsche says?
	So this is, again, another very interesting question.
	And maybe we could try to dive into these structured way.
	But Nietzsche sees what a strong person is able to take any disadvantage and turn it to their advantage.
	Now, Nietzsche laments Christianity as one of the greatest mistakes that was ever befallen, one of the greatest disasters that ever befell mankind.
	He's very clear that he does not like what happened with Christianity.
	Again, we can get into that specifically.
	But at the same time, he also says that even though this is a bad thing, he's hyper-creative.
	He's hyper-affirmative.
	He's like, if you find yourself, you know, with no legs, learn how to do pull-ups.
	He's got that type of fucking Jocko-Willink attitude or something like this.
	And so Christianity swooped into Europe.
	It swooped into Rome.
	It led to Rome's, well, it led to Rome's fall.
	It was basically at the end of Rome's fall.
	Because of the way that it approached things like knowledge and its totalitarian attitude, it led to this dark age essentially afterwards, as not an awful lot of people talk about.
	But then over time, it evolved massively.
	The Germanic peoples of Western Europe, who were the ruling class, really spanked it and turned it into something that it really wasn't anymore.
	So an awful lot of people talk about this in intellectual history that Christianity Hellenized is what they call it, which we can kind of get into what that technically means.
	And so by the time of the Crusades, sorry, not the Crusades, the colonial conquistadors, you have a Christianity that is essentially the same as like Roman pagan vital warrior religion that's allowed, it's Christianity to go and conquer the world.
	Now, at the same time, it's kind of weird because in them conquering the world, they're carrying Christianity and these carrying Judaism.
	When Rome converted to Christianity, they went from persecuting Jews and Christians to imposing the Torah Messiah on all of the nations, doing the dirty work.
	Uh-oh, did you cut out?
	Uh-oh.
	let's see if we can call him back Hey, sorry.
	Your internet dropped, maybe, or just dropped the call.
	So it could be my internet or something like that.
	Can I what?
	You can hear me?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, continue.
	But look, see, we're exposing it here, so they're taking us down.
	That's what's yeah, Mossad's always after me.
	Um, so you were talking about, for example, how Christianity brought Judaism to the world, which I, and like Nietzsche's has sort of has a formal take in this, which I think is very, very fascinating.
	Because implicit, he says, for example, you who hate the Jews, why do you worship their religion?
	Now, this is a fascinating statement because Nietzsche was quite famous for being, in some sense, he didn't like anti-Semitism.
	He found it like very cringe.
	He lived in Germany, so it was like quite extreme at the time.
	Me too, me too.
	I'm an expert in anti-Semitism, and I condemn actual anti-Semitism, especially mentally ill Christian anti-Semitism.
	I feel like that does nothing that ultimately benefits them as their victim, their victim status, and turns us into the villains.
	It's like a red herring that discredits us.
	Fantastic.
	And I think that's a very mature position.
	Like, I really, really like that stuff.
	And I find it in Nietzsche too.
	And it was always something because around about the reactionary time in 2016, stuff like this, obviously you come across people talking about like, oh, the Jews run everything.
	And you kind of say to yourself, it's like, oh, fuck.
	Well, does this mean, you know, it's like, should we go and should we start a war or try to get them or something like this?
	But then you have Nietzsche pointing out this very uncomfortable truth.
	It's like, should we form a Christian coalition against them?
	You know, is that which we should do?
	And Nietzsche has this brutal take where he says, listen, the Jews have a way of seeing the world that he would argue is philosophically wrong.
	I guess we could say this.
	Well, he would say that it's actually anti-life.
	Now, I'll get into all these technical meanings because these are so fascinating.
	He basically points out, and he says, the Jewish worldview, the way that you see the world as in Judaism is a denial of life, a denial of reality.
	It's wrong.
	Now, the problem is that that is so well-grounded in the way that he presents it.
	Everything that stems out of Judaism is infected with that way of seeing the world.
	And you even see this reflected in the histories.
	The Romans met both the Jews and the Christians and saw them both as atheists.
	The Romans would speak to them and the Romans thought that they weren't worshiping reality or God or something like this.
	They had some religion that didn't make sense.
	They basically were calling them nihilists, the same way as we meet postmodernists or woke people and we call them atheists who don't believe in the Christian God.
	It's the same psychological pattern with different wordings, which is the type of stuff I found so fascinating.
	And so Nietzsche points out that this is pointing to something, that the Jews have a worldview.
	There's a technique called a Weltanshan, a way of seeing the world, a worldview that is fascinating and wrong, he believes, or denial of life.
	Now, Christianity and Islam are saturated in some sense with this worldview.
	It's predicated on the Abrahamic perspective that has to be this way.
	Now, what Nietzsche was trying to do in some sense is maybe not rehab, but certainly try to understand what is a way of seeing the world outside of this.
	What is an antagonistic way of seeing the world, a different Weltanshan that we could look at things for?
	And he comes up, for example, he sort of explores very, very briefly stuff like ancient paganism, which he called life religions.
	He even sees how this way of seeing the world can pop up in Christianity and Islam from time to time.
	But he ultimately points out that this way of seeing the world, which you might understand from his jargon as like master morality or something like this, is or better nowadays understood as like vitalism, a vitalistic perspective, is completely a coherent, legitimate way of seeing things.
	Like it has a whole different reality that you can view the world as highly creative and positive and life-affirming.
	And it's a complete challenge to the Jewish worldview on a fundamental level.
	Now, if you don't like the Jews, but you sit around reading the Bible, hating the Jews, it's like it's the strangest thing ever because it's like you're completely verifying the entire paradigm of thinking that stabilizes their, I guess you could say, identity and spirit and all this type of stuff.
	Their chosenness.
	And they affirm and corroborate their chosen, once chosen status.
	And this is it.
	And it's like even stuff like that.
	You know, I can understand why the Jews, the Jews want to see themselves as having a big, important future and an important destiny.
	But it's so fascinating is that you can go into this, you could call it maybe the Nietzschean worldview and just kind of point that out as like, look, that's obviously you have that desire to see yourself as special, but it's clearly not reality.
	It's clearly not true.
	You're clearly just, you know, you're clearly just persuading yourself this with your religion and your dreams to keep yourself motivated and all this.
	But it's like, let's, it's silly.
	It's not reality at all.
	None of these types of things.
	And Christianity verifies that.
	It supports that.
	It buys into the revelation, the dreams, the visions, all these types of things.
	And it causes a very big issue because it's almost like it's flowing more psychological energy into that Welt and Shan, that worldview, that world perspective.
	And it demoralizes the alternative world perspective, which actually might be something that was capable of really, really changing the game, changing the paradigm.
	Right.
	And I find it just all too convenient that the enemy of Yahweh is the nations, the idolatrous, idol-worshipping, false gods.
	He's the jealous God.
	The whole objective of Yahweh and his chosen people is to be a light into the nations and to get into cut down their idols and get everybody to worship him, the God that chose them.
	And when Constantine made Christianity the official religion, and then later Theodosius made it the only allowed religion, they eradicated paganism, which is really the myths, gods, cultures of all the other people, replaced it with Torah Judaism and the God of Israel.
	And while doing that, they also ensured the survival of Judaism because they're like the elder brother in faith.
	They have to be around at the end times to convert.
	You know, they preserved them, ensured their survival, protected them in a way, but also gave them this like victim status by blaming them for killing God, the most absurd thing ever.
	Christians wouldn't be saved if they didn't fulfill the divine role of the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.
	You know, it's all so ridiculous.
	And now they're a rising power.
	Now they're kosherizing, Zionizing Christianity.
	Now Christianity is their greatest allies.
	And the Christians that think that they're like anti-Zionist or anti-Jewish, this is a limited form of opposition.
	It's control, theologically controlled opposition, where the only way to oppose the Judeo-Zionist agenda is to worship the God of Israel and believe their holy books and follow the king of the Jews who was meant to rule over us.
	I think it's a complete psyop.
	Yeah, it's very, very interesting, like how because this is such an emotional challenge to people, because I understand why people go back to Christianity these days.
	They see the chaos in the world and they become very anxious and they become very nervous.
	And Christianity does have a tradition of anti-Semitism, you know, like a very, very strong one.
	And so they see it as this like bulwark that they can go against it.
	But this is, it's a very difficult challenge, like the Nietzschean challenge to say, well, wait a second, what if you're verifying, you know, you're self-owning yourself?
	You're, as Nietzsche would say, you're, you're literally taking on the identity of a slave, which is in some sense training you to be one.
	You're just basically like, I will, I will be the dog in the cage type thing.
	And it's like, listen, there's, there's ultimate ways you can do stuff like this.
	So, for example, um, in regards to Judaism and its creative history, Nietzsche actually quite liked Old Testament Judaism when it showed up.
	It was maybe you could call it the Hebrews back then.
	And he has many positive things to say about them.
	And this isn't the Antichrist.
	He talks about the way that God worked for them back then because he has a very interesting perspective.
	Again, he has this vitalistic perspective.
	He sort of believes that energy is some type of magical super force that courses through all of our bodies and it's a creative generative force.
	And if you want to think about what a God is from his perspective, perhaps, you would, it's similar to what Jordan Peterson said.
	You would imagine, you know, 100 people in a room that were all related, maybe, and they're living in a tribe.
	And if they all collect their united perspective and energy and organizational force together, almost like, you know, the symbol of the beehive or something like this, you're getting very, very close to what we might understand as a God.
	Now, when you look at all the ancient pagan religions, this is how they worked.
	The gods were an abstracted manifestation of the will to power of people.
	So, for example, in ancient Rome, what was Jupiter?
	Jupiter was the center male force that was representative of the Roman spirit.
	And the Romans, this is another thing you get off the Christians an awful lot that the Romans were all degenerates.
	The Romans, like the word pious, comes from Rome.
	Piety is a Roman Latin word.
	Moral, too, right?
	I learned that from you, that moral was a Greek word, right?
	Moral?
	Moral comes from the Romans.
	That's a morus mora, way of the ancestors.
	And you know, the Bible doesn't actually talk about morals a lot.
	Sorry to interrupt, but like morality and ethics aren't really in there.
	It's just whatever Yahweh says is moral.
	And that's so degrading.
	This is what Christian.
	Hold on, sorry.
	Finish your thought.
	I'll pick it up later.
	Go ahead.
	Well, see, these are fantastic, man.
	I'd love to like, we can, I'll try and mark them off and we can go into them one by one because the question about morality is fantastic.
	Um, but as I said, all right, so we have ancient Rome.
	And try to put yourself in your head with this.
	These people are going to temple, church, they're going to temple, and they're very pious.
	And they believe the reason why Rome manifests its success is because they're so religious and they're so dutiful to Jupiter.
	And Jupiter is a representation of their collective spirit, their will to power, their energy.
	And there's this reciprocal relationship with this.
	They sacrifice their food to Jupiter, their honor.
	They sacrifice things to Jupiter and they empower the collective Roman spirit to succeed as a consequence of this.
	And this is a very vital and healthy religion.
	This allows them to become successful.
	They take over the fucking world doing this.
	Now, Judaism, ancient Judaism had this as well.
	You look at ancient Judaism and what did Moses do?
	Moses stood on top and he said in a very like conquering, brave, conquistador way, he said, take that land off those people, down the Canaanites.
	And so he sent the people down there.
	And Joshua went down for him and he took Jericho and he enacted the most amoral Nietzschean thing ever.
	He conquered the Jericho and he destroyed it and burned everything and destroyed the women and destroyed the children.
	It was this pure like psychopathic war that he waged upon them.
	And Moses' laws, Mosaic law being the foundation of Judaism, is highly ethnocentric.
	It's highly self-interested, vitalistic, conquering energy that's inside of it.
	The God back then was a very dynamic God, which is what God should be.
	Like Jupiter back then was a representation of a people's will to power, meaning that he had the capacity for cruelty and deviousness, but also mercy and goodness.
	It was all wrapped up in one character.
	And of course, the ancient Old Testament God had the same thing.
	And so Nietzsche points out that these ancient Judeans, they were healthy, they were healthy people, and they were strong people and they're vital people.
	And they claimed their place in the sun as a consequence.
	They claimed their territory, which is ancient Israel.
	Now, what happened is like every people, like Rome, like America now and like the West now, they had they conquered.
	They had these, like the pioneers in America had these brilliant founders who are full of vital power, following along with their energy.
	They build America, they build the West, and then it becomes the good times.
	And then during the good times, what happens?
	They become a little bit lazy.
	They start to become sloppy.
	They start to become degenerates, if you will, and then it collapses.
	Now, Nietzsche says something fascinating here: is that when this happened in the ancient world, a people would allow the God to die.
	So when that arc of super energy cascaded and fell down, that was the end of the God.
	So Yahweh should have died at that point.
	Just like when the Romans ran out of steam and Jupiter fell and they converted to Christianity, that was the end of the Roman project.
	Jupiter was dead.
	That collective will was gone.
	It was a new people that was now representative in Rome.
	And so this happens in ancient Israel.
	Israel collapses.
	Now, a very serious problem happens here where they don't give up.
	This is, in some sense, Nietzsche said this is like Jewish psychological vitality.
	Because they don't sacrifice Yahweh, which is what all other people would have done.
	Yahweh has to distort because they're not now these vital, strong supermen.
	These 100, this tribe is no longer projecting the will.
	This is a much different people.
	They get brought over to Babylon.
	They get bought over there and they live the experience of a slave.
	Now, think about this.
	They live the experience of a slave.
	They go into Babylon.
	They have no warriors, no farmers.
	They're just priests and slaves.
	That's all it is.
	And the religion, the conception of Yahweh, the culture that they develop, begins to morph to suit that experience.
	It transforms.
	And this is where, as Nietzsche points out, it becomes a slave worldview, a worldview that is designed to help a lot of people cope with the fact that they are in pain.
	They had a slave identity, even going back.
	I don't think it's historical, but the Exodus story, that gave them a slave identity too.
	Yeah.
	That's the blessing of Abraham: your people will be enslaved for 400 years.
	Yeah, true.
	Absolutely.
	And it's like littered through it.
	I think Nietzsche was pointing out with the Moses stuff and all this.
	But regardless of that, because he even says stuff like, is the Bible falsified entirely?
	Like he talks about stuff like that.
	Maybe we can get into that.
	But point being is that you see in Babylon then this distortion starts to happen and there becomes this new story starts to get installed within Judea, which is describing the world in a different way.
	It's saying the Romans would have lived and the Greeks and all pagan religions would have basically said that like, all right, if your God is strong, you're going to win because it's a representation of your energy in different words, of course.
	And if your God loses, that means you don't have any power in this world because your God is weak.
	So your God is dead.
	Now, the Jews start to come up with this idea that, like, all right, our God didn't lose.
	Our God is challenging us, is putting us under some type of pressure.
	And he's putting us through a period of strife.
	Our God doesn't exist in this world.
	See, you were wrong about God, and we're right about God.
	And our God actually lives in the alternate dimension.
	And he's off there waiting.
	And he's planning in the future to give us the kingdom back and stuff like this.
	And so it starts to develop all these very unique characteristics that we see in Judaism, such as the promise of the future, the very abstract, distant experience of how it relates with God and stuff like this.
	The idea that it's like all about prophecies and revelations and it's about some type of promise of fulfilling something at the end.
	Revenge of victory over your enemies, that kind of stuff.
	That type of stuff.
	And it's able to set these like long extended goals and stuff, which Nietzsche says is actually a virtue that comes out of this slave style of thinking.
	But nonetheless, it's got a very big problem because they, in some sense, go to war against the world itself.
	They go to war against nature and life and reality.
	They say, like, think about what they're saying.
	Reality is not real.
	The gods of this world are not real.
	God is in some abstract other realm because that's where he's waiting for us because he doesn't care about us losing in the world because he doesn't care about the world because he hates the world because he's not from the world.
	Neither are we.
	We're the chosen people, not from the world.
	Now, this does something profound because Nietzsche calls it falsifying the world.
	It's in some sense like it's like saying we live in the matrix.
	The world around us is not real.
	And this becomes very, very serious because this is a denial of the world, a denial of life.
	And this leads to all sorts of terrible consequences down the line that we can talk about.
	To give you a kind of clear example, science was always known as natural philosophy or the philosophy of nature, the philosophy of the world.
	And a lot of people like Voltaire were saying that natural science was a conquest over the Judeo-Christian perspective, which falsified the natural world.
	The experience of the experience of the Europeans becoming scientific was in some sense them and romantic.
	That happened at the same time, was in some sense then overcoming the superstition and otherworldliness of the Christian medieval period.
	And you can maybe call it the dark ages where they came up with this conception.
	And this was them going back to a sort of pagan perspective where they were engaging with the world again, learning to love nature.
	And look at what happened to the Europeans when they did that.
	They reached the fucking moon, man.
	Like give the Europeans 400 years where they're in love with nature again.
	And they take over the whole world.
	Like it's unbelievable.
	They reach the moon.
	They build like they build super technology societies.
	They build the best, like the biggest, most profound society that's ever existed.
	But this whole denial of reality and escapism back into this worldview pulls you back in.
	So this happens in Judea, which is a big deal.
	And of course, the story then of Christianity, as Nietzsche says, is that regardless even of what it did with Rome, the fact that this way of thinking was in Judea and got passed on to Christianity, whether it was a conspiracy or not, and found its way into Rome, led to a destruction of that natural way of thinking, which led to like huge, huge problems for European people going forward.
	And there's the talk complete, I hope.
	There's even a quote I could back that up with if you so wish.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	This is from the Antichrist from Friedrich Nietzsche.
	He says that the spiritualized, the spiritualization of sensuality is called love.
	It is a great triumph over Christianity.
	Another triumph is our spiritualization of hostility.
	It consists of the fact that we are beginning to realize very profoundly the value of having enemies.
	In short, that with them we are forced to do and to conclude precisely the reverse of what we previously did and concluded.
	In all ages, the church wished to annihilate its enemies.
	We, the immoralists and antichrists, see our advantage in the survival of the church.
	I'll get into this stuff maybe a bit too much later.
	But Nietzsche's talking about like the politics of sticking with the church and understanding what's going on.
	But this whole idea of like the spiritualization of sensuality is called love.
	This is Him trying to get us to understand that there's a way that we, even now, look at the world, the romantic scientific perspective that is real, is us connecting with nature.
	And in order for us to become enlightened and do that, we had to conquer the Judeo-Christian worldview, which he is trying to point out is like that was that was a demoralizing anti-life perspective that we have to kind of overthrow.
	And he really is trying to lay that foundation as one of the most important things for the European people to achieve.
	And it's very, like, we still haven't pulled it off properly.
	Like, we're still haggard by this.
	We're still confused by this.
	And it's a very confusing and difficult thing.
	It reminds me of a 1999 article from the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs.
	They're in here kovetching about neo-paganism and how it's a threat to Judaism.
	And that they have neo-paganism merits Jewish concern.
	It talks about appreciation of nature and that it shouldn't be that way.
	In Judaism, it's like subdue the world.
	You know, the world is for you to subdue it.
	And it also believes in the afterlife that like devalues this world and belief in end times prophecies.
	It's like, oh, the Christians are going to be persecuted and lose in the end.
	And it's God's plan for chaos to unleash and Armageddon wars and famines and plagues and all this has to happen.
	It's so incredibly destructive of a mindset.
	And even stuff like the relationship with animals.
	This is a very famous one where Schopenhauer would talk about this.
	Like there's a crudishness in Judeo-Christianity where like animals don't have souls, you know, and so you can justify all sorts of cruelty and harm towards them.
	Like you could look at maybe our modern slaughterhouse systems as in some sense having this like you people like in India, they Hinduism had a very, very pro-life love of animals perspective inside of it.
	And they just can't allow themselves to do these types of things to these types of extremes.
	It seems too savage to them and whatnot.
	And so this more naturalistic return to nature type attitude.
	And this is quite important to understand.
	But again, I would even stress that more powerful than anything, I think, is the understanding of what science is.
	Like science, natural philosophy.
	Science is understood as this return to a European consciousness that was before the Roman Empire.
	And like all these writers, like the Enlightenment writers and stuff like this, are so fascinating to read because there's a problem here.
	Again, this is very complicated.
	An awful lot of these Enlightenment writers set the foundations for the moral crisis we're going through right now because Nietzsche says that the Enlightenment achieved many things, but it did not manage to throw off Judeo-Christian morality.
	But he points out that things like the scientific project was a return to European people to their original spirit and a great success and something that we like should understand.
	And what do you see?
	Like what do you see in the Christian right wing right now is that they're like, oh, the earth's flat.
	Science is evil.
	Science is demonic.
	All these things, every version of progress is evil.
	Every all knowledge, all gaining of knowledge.
	You actually see them reverting now in reaction to the trauma of the current age.
	You see them reverting back into an anti-life, anti-science perspective.
	They don't want knowledge.
	They just want you to come in the little community, the little hovel, and be Christian and shut up and don't aspire to politics and don't aspire to science and don't aspire to anything high or anything progressive and just be moral and read the Bible.
	That's what it's sort of energy.
	And you're like, man, that's a very frightening thing to see because that's exactly the cult of ignorance that, for example, would suit a very savvy set of operators who wanted to run the world properly.
	And this article talks about how they want Noahide laws for the Gentiles.
	And that's Christianity is basically like a stepping stone towards making the nations Noahide compliant.
	And it says here, the recognition of God and the prohibition of idolatry, the latter forbids revering nature or any part of it as sacred.
	So this religious Judeo-Christian mindset that like we're in a fallen world and Satan reigns over us.
	And, you know, we're all born like with original sin and inherently evil.
	It's degrading.
	And to argue with these Christians and their best evidence for God is we wouldn't have morals without the God of Israel, without the Jewish God in the Bible and the Ten Commandments, we wouldn't have morals.
	We wouldn't know right from wrong.
	We would be savages.
	We wouldn't be able to defend ourselves or build buildings or have Western civilization.
	It's all so degrading.
	It's what the rabbis want us to believe that they're here to be the nation of priests and get us all to worship the God of Israel.
	And without that, you know, so it's, you're literally fulfilling their prophecies for them by believing.
	And it's, it's all so slavish.
	It's awful.
	And, you know, I think you bring a really good point.
	And I think there's another ancillary point to this is to understand like how to deal with these problems.
	Because as you said, like, if you go into this cartoonish anti-Semitism, like there's something wrong with that, because it feels, it feels off, you know, it's silly.
	But at the same time, you have to say to yourself, wait a second, like these, you know, this is not to go and attack nature and stuff like this.
	There's something wrong here.
	And this, this needs to be talked about.
	And I always think about, again, what Nietzsche was trying to do.
	He's trying to create, he's trying to do the really hard work, the creative work of saying, I want to create an alternate vision.
	I want a whole new vision of how we can go forward, how we can affirm what we are in our spirit and grab the benefits of science and even some of the benefits that came out of Judeo-Christianity and wrap all that stuff together and understand how this can actually be a stable new way of seeing the world.
	Nietzsche called this a re-evaluation of all values.
	We can maybe talk about that if you so wish, so that we can have this new paradigm for, you know, maybe for the next thousand years or something like this.
	But the point being is that we look at all this stuff.
	And I think this is maybe the funniest one.
	It's like you read stuff like that.
	And if you have, maybe it's scary because they're planning to take over the world, but you read it.
	And if you actually just look at it objectively, it's like, that's just stupid.
	Like, that's just irrational.
	You know, like, I hate nature.
	Like, what are you talking about, man?
	Like, all good things going.
	Well, you're going to stop growing plants.
	Like, God lives in nature.
	You know, like everything grows.
	Sex is evil.
	You know, it's like, where do we come from then?
	You know, it's just, what is this absurdity?
	It's that better to be meek in a pushover and to martyr yourself.
	That's the, that's the greatest.
	They believe that they're going to be persecuted in the end or that they're going to be raptured away and that the reward is in is in the afterlife.
	I mean, that's a con, but like when you, when you're convinced that you losing is a victory, you've been mind fucked.
	And this is what's bizarre about it is like, it's like, oh, yeah, come deny nature.
	Let's stir up so much shit.
	Like, let's attack the world so much until we get persecuted.
	You're like, why are we, this is just irrational.
	It's crazy.
	It's nonsense.
	Why are we getting sucked into this stuff?
	And all the premises of its belief are based on like revelation, dreams, prophecies.
	Like it's like, what?
	It's like, why do we read my dreams and make up a story about how the world works then out of this?
	This is, again, it's this brutality.
	No, only the Jews can speak for God.
	Imagine delegating and handing over the people that can speak for God to one nation of priests and they have the one true God and they're going to tell us everything.
	Giving them that.
	And it's, I think Judaism is like Plato's noble lie.
	It's a foundational myth that they use.
	Most people take it literally so they can be controlled and be in line and have something unite around.
	And then that kind of progressed into Christianity, which is like, you know, a disnoble lie because it's more of a, I think it's a prophecy deception.
	Jesus is a myth and it's all just a con to trick the gentiles into worshiping Yahweh.
	I'm not too sure on that type of stuff, but I definitely think it's a really interesting way to think.
	It's like, all right, well, like, again, with this, this kind of cartoonish anti-Semitism, oh, the Jews do everything and all this.
	It's like you're literally, through selecting their worldview, choosing them to be the priestly people.
	And Nietzsche says this here in, I think it is genealogy of morals.
	Above all, there are no exceptions, though there are opportunities for exceptions to this rule, that the idea of political superiority always resolves itself into the idea of psychological superiority.
	Now, listen to this.
	In those cases where the highest caste is at the same time the priestly caste, and in accordance with the general characteristics, confer itself a privilege of title, which alludes specifically to its priestly function.
	And basically, what he's getting into here is that the warriors are controlled by their minds.
	Their muscles are controlled by their minds.
	The warrior castes can often make themselves the rulers of a society, but priests are very, very powerful.
	And so you see this relationship in all massive social situations.
	You usually have three banks.
	You have a priestly caste, you have a warrior cast, and you have a working class.
	And in this instance, it's like, again, Nietzsche is trying to be the mindset coach for better priests.
	He's basically saying, like, if we can construct a perspective that is affirmative of life, that's noble, that's got dignity, that believes in things like love and romance and engagement with the world, that is scientific, that is rational, that is clear thinking, that it fulfills all of these things, that is fertile, that is healthy.
	And look at our current world right now.
	It's almost the opposite of all of those things.
	We need to get serious and provide, first of all, the vision for that, and then provide the infrastructure to make sure that we're promoting that.
	Like we need our version of our priestly caste to do this in order to moralize people and get them going in the right direction instead of allowing ourselves to get infected with all these demoralizing perspectives or these like cults of ignorance and all this type of stuff.
	And so he lays this stuff out, I think, brilliantly, but I guess in the way that he speaks as a mad German incel, it becomes quite difficult to follow along what he's talking about.
	Through Christianity, they convinced Rome.
	Rome went from occupying Judea, destroying their temple, oppressing them, basically, to worshiping their God.
	That's a huge victory.
	They went from they taught us to like demonize our ancestors and our gods were turned into demons in Christianity.
	What do you think about the Apollonians?
	People try to identify with the Roman gods.
	I've only seen them recently, so I don't have a comprehensive take.
	But look, I like the way they're approaching things because I just said that the biggest problem I find with an awful lot of this stuff is there's a reactionary instinct inside of it.
	A lot of people see Judaism and they get mad and they're like, oh, I'm so mad about what's going on here.
	And they throw tantrums and it's very cartoonish.
	It's like, look, at some point, maybe you react, you get upset.
	That's fine.
	That happens to us all.
	But then it comes down to questions of solutions.
	Like, are you actually good enough to provide a comprehensive, inspiring alternative?
	Because like it or not, Judeo-Christianity saves millions of people from psychological stress around the world all the time.
	It's a dignifying religion that like it causes a lot too.
	It causes a lot too, fair enough.
	But it's there for people.
	It provides people's deepest dreams.
	People, when they're dying, believe and see visions based on the mythologies of the Bible.
	It's got so much inside of it.
	So if you're going to rival this, you can't just bitch and complain.
	Like, when does that ever fucking work?
	Now, of course, what you need is to say, what is a creative solution?
	This is why I'm such a fan of Nietzsche is that he is so audacious in his attempts to point out creative solutions to this.
	Really, like, he's brilliant in the sense that he says, I don't want to be a reactionary.
	I want to go beyond this.
	I want to go and say, like, let's drop Christianity, neither love nor hate it.
	But what's the next level, the next step, and the next future?
	Now, I listen, look at the Apollonians.
	And again, I'm quite new to it, but it seems like they're trying to suggest.
	It's like, well, look, let's construct something that has an alternative, that has grounds.
	They're trying to rehabilitate the Roman perspective.
	And they're trying to rehabilitate that Roman Greco perspective in the context of the modern world, which I think is smart, is integrating modern science and our modern mythological understandings and modern psychology into our perspectives of religion.
	I think is fundamentally the way.
	I do think Nietzsche has a much more comprehensive take on many dynamics that I don't see these guys talking about.
	But nonetheless, I always say kudos to people giving it a whack, you know?
	Like it's that type of creative thinking is incredibly important.
	I also meet an awful lot of neo-pagans, you know, and I talk to them and they're trying to do things similarly as well.
	Sometimes they kind of like they revert into something similar to a traditionalist Christian.
	It's like, I don't want science.
	I don't want progress.
	I don't want anything like that.
	Like we're going to unironic old school back in the forest wodenism or something like this.
	I worry about that because again, it's a denial of the story that we've gone through.
	But nonetheless, as I'm pointing out, this looking at alternate perspectives is really, really where I think I think the money note will be hit.
	Can you tell us about this tweet?
	Christians, all right, first of all, it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, I must say.
	But again, it plays into many of the things that we're saying.
	Christians, you know, treat Jews the way that incels treat women.
	So you have, you know, they hate them, but at the same time, they believe their worldview.
	You know, it's like this type of relationship.
	Or sometimes it's even worse.
	You have like half the Christians that are the most ardent Zionists possible, but then you have these other ones that are running around saying that they all need to be, they all need to be force converted and stuff like this, you know, this type of stuff.
	And it's just this, it's this relationship that I noticed from back in, you know, remember pickup artistry and all this stuff was on the internet and all these type of things.
	There was this phenomenon you'd see with a guy who was struggling with girls where he'd put the pussy on a pedestal.
	Excuse my crudeness.
	And he'd see the girls as like, you know, this is a little literal angel.
	She can do nothing wrong.
	And then like any guy who's savvy with girls will know that, for example, she poops, she pees, she farts, she's got a smelly armpits.
	She also makes mistakes.
	She trips up.
	She can also be quite devilish if you're not careful.
	And so the realistic, natural, engaged view just takes an awful lot of the nonsense and the magic out of it and allows you to have a real relationship with the girl, which actually turns into the really magical relationship where you can do things like have beautiful, pleasurable sex and create beautiful children and great, strong relationships and all this stuff.
	And so you see this parody where you have like loads of upset, black pilled incel Christians who are political dissidents who want to have this like just psychotic, cartoonish fury at Judaism.
	And then as I said, the Zionists that are just like delusionally following along with it.
	And it's at some point you just kind of say to yourself, it's like, I just don't, I don't want to hear about it anymore.
	Like it's just, I'm done.
	Like I want to step back.
	I don't want to be caught up in the in the fix of arguing about like biblical prophecy.
	But we're stuck in the Abrahamic matrix, like between two sides arguing over who the Jewish Messiah is.
	This is it, you know, this is it.
	Like, and this becomes really bad when they'll say stuff like, oh, like Jesus wasn't a Jew.
	Jesus was actually, he was Irish and stuff like this, or he was German or stuff like this.
	And you're like, bros, I just want to step out of this for a minute.
	You know, like we, again, we, as the Europeans, you could even say, I'm in, like, this is also another thing that I don't think people think about is that loads of Jews got on board with European Enlightenment scientific progress.
	They loved it.
	They dropped the Judy, Jew, Jewish irrationalism to get on board with this stuff.
	Loads of them actually participated in this.
	There's loads of like loads of them would participate in the scientific project.
	They are fundamentally quite a talented people because they saw that it was a more rational way forward.
	None of them are ever going to participate in anti-Semitic Christianity because it fundamentally hates them just for the fact that they exist and stuff like this.
	Whereas if you give them this more visionary option that actually empowers you and empowers nature and empowers life, it's like loads of them will look at their religion and be like, this is, I speak to loads of them, man.
	I speak to like some Jews from my channel and stuff like this.
	And they would like, you know, they tell me about going to a synagogue and they're like, I don't go anymore.
	It's silly, man.
	It's like kind of, you know, they're going around, they're talking.
	It's like a trauma-inducing experience.
	Yeah.
	Go to the wail about the pain of the past.
	It's like you're chosen and everybody hates you.
	It's awful for them, too.
	Man, it's crazy.
	Like, and I've met, like, for example, I've known Jew, he's like half-Jew, but he is like, got really big into like weightlifting and reading Nietzsche.
	And he's so funny.
	He almost turned into like a Hellenic ancient Greek dude that was just really big about getting fit and healthy and strong.
	And he wants to get a good girl, a beautiful girl, and make beautiful babies and all this.
	And he like, you know, I joke at him about Judaism and stuff like this.
	And he'd like call me an Irish.
	He'd be like, I'm going to steal your potatoes and all this type of stuff.
	But he's sort of like this attitude with it where he's like, oh, of course he loves his heritage, but he does see the silliness in it.
	And he has an idea about going forward and whatnot.
	And so these type of possibilities are very, very restricted when there's all this like unconscious emotionalism around it.
	And it stops you from seeing the creative possibilities, such as, all right, what is a way forward that is beyond both of these parts, this matrix, as you said.
	And I think that that really says an awful lot of stuff.
	And most importantly, it's very positive.
	It's something that's assertive, best foot forward, creative, and engaging with the world in that way, which I really support.
	You say here they feel frenzied hate towards them, but also worship them as divine.
	This is why I say that they're theological controlled opposition.
	A verse summarizes that perfectly.
	Romans 11:28.
	As concerning the gospel, according to the gospels, they, the Jews, are enemies for your sake, but as touching the election, their chosenness, they are beloved for the Father's sake.
	So they're the villains, but they're central to your story.
	And you're supposed to be your enemy, but they're also chosen by God.
	And salvation is of the Jews, and they speak with the oracles of God, and all of Israel will be saved in the end.
	All of these things, it's just lines up too perfectly.
	Even Jesus himself is like, I came not for the Gentiles, I came for the Jews or something like that.
	It's actually the opposite of that, though, because Christianity was created for the nations, for the Roman world.
	That's why it was kind of superficially anti-Jewish, supposedly.
	And it's very interesting that initially they blame the Jews for killing Jesus.
	But nowadays, they're like, oh, well, the historical Jesus, he was a Jew that hated the Romans and he was killed by the Romans.
	And now the Romans is that the line now I'm not too on this in scholarship, like biblical scholarship, that's all that's all the line, like almost universally is that the Romans killed Jesus.
	All we know about him is he was a Jew and the Romans killed him.
	And so it's though that was like almost a bait and switch.
	Now it's the Rome is scapegoated for Christian Rome is scapegoated for killing the Savior.
	And they did this because they wanted to blame the Jews at first because they wanted the Romans to adopt it.
	That's why it was written in Greek.
	That's why there's stories about the Great Commission, Paul's the Apostle to the Gentiles.
	Christianity was not for Jews.
	The Jews were meant to reject this.
	And it represents a form of like idol worship, but that still is worshiping their Messiah.
	Prophecies everywhere about the nations putting their hope in this Messiah and that they would reject him.
	So I think it's all a big scam.
	Yeah, look, look, man, again, I don't have the details in this type of stuff.
	I don't know the ins and outs of it.
	I've actually heard like so many different takes on what could have happened.
	For example, I've heard people say that the Romans, the Romans took it.
	That's ridiculous.
	That the Romans created it to subvert the rebellious messianic Jews.
	It's absurd.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	Have you seen this headline?
	The Jews should celebrate Christmas as a Torah victory over paganism.
	And why are they saying this?
	Oh, because the Jews should celebrate Christmas as the chosen by God with the mission of helping others, where Rabbi Yeshua, Jesus, fulfilled their mission by converting the pagans to the Torah-guided Christians because it is forbidden for the Jews to convert to Judaism.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	So it got the pagans to worship the God of Israel and that fulfilled their mission.
	And their top rabbi Maimonides writes about this.
	This is like the Orthodox view in Judaism is that Christianity is part of God's plan to get the nations to abandon idol worship and worship Yahweh.
	Yeah, and like this is also something, again, I think about a worldview construction of a visionary alternative that goes beyond the Judeo-Christian matrix, if you want to put it this way.
	This is also like a phenomenon that I find so fascinating because this is the description of the idea of linear history.
	The idea that Judaism proposes that, all right, our God has chosen us and now our God chose us to make a promise.
	And at the start of this promise is going to be our suffering and it's going to continue until we get rewarded when we're finally moral enough.
	And then what will happen is he'll overthrow the world and establish a new order, a new kingdom, a new Atiko Olam will fix the world, will change nature, this type of thing.
	And you look at this and you see this has got very, very similar psychological patterns to, as I said, the communist revolution, Marx sitting down writing, all right, what we're going to do is we're going to come up like the world is wrong.
	We need to reorganize the way that society works and create a society of equality and equalizing principles.
	What we need to do is take out the Russian hierarchy in order to achieve this.
	These type of things.
	The French Revolution, the same thing.
	There's this big promise that goes in here and all these elaborate, beautiful justifications.
	But when this psychological mechanism plays out, it's always a disaster at the end.
	After the communists got control, the kingdom of equality did not happen.
	They didn't have the competence for it or else they were actively resentful and they were just using it as a way to get power so they can enact vengeance and they start the communist reign of terror.
	The exact same thing happens in France.
	The second they get control, the whole thing falls apart and there's a bloodbath of Ross Pierre murdering people because liberty, fraternity, liberty, and equality cannot happen because these are going against the laws of nature.
	They are promising a utopia that just can't exist in the way that people want it.
	And so it was a reign of terror until Napoleon shows up and stamps order down once again.
	And you see this again in Judaism.
	Like this is a psychological critique of it is that it's promising this type of world's transformation because it has a trouble with affirming and engaging with the world.
	And again, Nietzsche's just flips this stuff so brilliantly in its head and says, like, this is because the whole premised-based attitude in Judaism is irrational, is coming from a position of resentment towards life.
	They are at war with life.
	And he accuses Christianity and he accuses Buddhism of this, and he accuses Schopenhauer and pessimism of this.
	So he's not just singling out the Jews, but he's pointing out that, like, the fact that we take it so seriously is foolish.
	The correct perspective is one that is affirmative of life, that believes in life, that is believing in the world, believing in creativity and all these types of things.
	And that's a much more positive way that it can work.
	The only issue is that it's maybe not as psychologically motivating to people who are in positions of resentment and trauma because it doesn't promise this transformation of the world.
	Instead, it's not linear.
	It's sort of like the world is as it is.
	You must engage with nature as it is.
	You cannot expect nature to give you some type of project and plan because nature doesn't have a project and plan and stuff like this.
	Nature just simply is.
	It is out there, but you must engage with this world and operate this type of way.
	Nonetheless, these fundamental challenges, I think, are so fascinating because they're so titanically destructive in a hilarious way.
	They just point out how silly all of it is.
	Like they just point at it and say, this is, it's almost childish in some sense.
	It's like, what do you mean?
	The prophecies of fulfilling all these things.
	We've heard this before.
	You know, communism did not turn out the way that it was promised.
	This is the irrationalism.
	And we can basically say, like, I don't trust you enough to not have resentment in your heart to actually fulfill this kingdom of God that you're promising.
	And for this reason, you don't get to decide what the future will be.
	Instead, we have a better plan that has been proven to work thousands of ways and bring joy and beauty and happiness.
	So why listen to you?
	This type of thing.
	Nietzsche says Christianity is for slay religion for slaves and fools.
	And I think he nailed it there.
	Let's do a couple of super chats.
	And then I got another Nietzsche quote that I wanted to get into with you.
	We got another out.
	Yeah.
	There's one here.
	I'd actually love to read a Nietzsche quote just on the related thing because again, going into this idea, number 15, I think it is in the Antichrist.
	Under Christianity, neither morality nor religion has any point of contact with reality.
	It offers purely imaginary causes.
	God, the soul, the ego, spirit, free will, or even lack of free will, purely imaginary effects, sin, salvation, grace, punishment, forgiveness of sin, and the intercourse between imaginary entities, God, spirits, souls, and an imaginary natural history.
	It's all about man.
	It's linear.
	It's a total denial of the concept of natural causes, an imaginary psychology.
	So it misunderstands the self.
	It misunderstands agreeable and disagreeable general feelings.
	So that's it misunderstands the passions.
	And the states of nervous sympathy would help to basically start just talking about like religious problems and all these types of things.
	And imagine theology, this idea of the kingdom of God and the future, the utopia, the last judgment, eternal life, and the purely fictitious world, which it casts upon the world basically in front of it.
	And he's pointing out here that like when you actually inspect this thing and you look at the tangibles, you look at the specifics, you look at what they're actually saying.
	For example, about things like, as I was just talking about, this whole idea of the theology, the end of the world, it's just, it's all speculation.
	Like if you were a scientist, if you're scientifically educated and someone came into you and started to just theory sell and talk about their imagination and not ground it in evidence and reality, I sound sort of sound like Richard Dawkins, but it's sort of like this.
	It's just so ludicrous.
	It's so undisciplined.
	It's so nonsensical.
	The only reason it works is because it's psychologically motivating.
	And in some sense, an awful lot of people who buy into it are, in some sense, a little bit fooled by it, you know, because it's there for them when they need it the most, this type of thing.
	So these are big challenges he puts forth, and he hits it at the root, which is what I like so much.
	Yeah, I like that quote.
	Imaginary causes and effects.
	It reminds me of something I say often that Christianity is a fake solution to a fake problem.
	We don't have original sin.
	Adam and Eve and the serpent in the garden is all made up nonsense.
	So Jesus doesn't have to come and die and shed his blood to forgive us for our sins.
	It's a fake solution to a fake problem.
	That's actually, that's so brilliant because think about, again, again, something Nietzsche tries to rehabilitate.
	Like think about innocence, like how innocent nature is.
	You're wandering through nature and you're naked and shame gets installed in the Garden of Eden.
	You have to put the leaf on your genitals and stuff like this.
	Like, for example, if you go to Europe and go to Germany, they bathe naked in the bats.
	And now that there's the Islam is starting to move in via the immigration project, they have to stop that cultural habit.
	Now, this is very fascinating because obviously Islam is way more strict in many of the influences.
	And the Germans are sort of like on the edge of always being a little bit pagan.
	And even Tadatus back in ancient Rome noticed the same things is that the Germans would used to bathe with each other.
	Before they were married, they were still virgins.
	And the men and women would bathe with each other and hyper bond for life and stuff.
	It is, oh, there's monogamy without Christianity.
	Here's another fucking question to ask.
	And there's something very innocent about it.
	Like as much as the pagans, the barbarians, they're slandered as these immoral savages that are human sacrificing everybody all the time and eating babies and all this.
	It's like, that's actually not what it was like at all.
	These people were in some sense blissful, innocent, and all this.
	And that's Jewish propaganda, basically, the equivalent to Jewish propaganda, Christian propaganda.
	Joe, what's fascinating is that even I've read some really good Jewish authors in this.
	There's this guy called Maurice Samuel, and he has this book called You Gentiles.
	And he contrasts Judaism and Europeans.
	And he gives like both their fair bang and both their fair due.
	And he points out this stuff like this, like this natural comfort with the body and this naturalness and this innocence and all these and how valuable they are and how Judaism comes in with all these concepts of shame and stuff like this and haggards and creates this guilty conscience inside the people.
	And he points out that it's such a weight to put such a trauma to put in people's heads.
	Do you think about what the religion is?
	Marcus Eli Ravage said something very similar as well.
	You're familiar with his quotes.
	I think maybe I could be mixing these guys up.
	I'm going to look through some more.
	I've got the book, You Gentiles.
	I think he does say similar stuff to that in his chapter about religion.
	But he goes, yeah, you were.
	Marcus Eli Ravage says, like, you were carefree people and, you know, you now you're worshiping a bunch of Jewish patriarchs.
	And even like, because that's true, but even the trauma side of it, like, I've heard someone talk about this, like, innocent and guilt.
	This is, again, Nietzschean psychology.
	So brilliant.
	So he points out that the fundamental relationship with consciousness and guilt is related to trauma.
	He has this beautiful quote where he says, blessed are the forgetful because they get the better even of their mistakes.
	And he goes on to point out how the masters, the conquering people, the successful people, the people chosen by life, tend to be more forgetful.
	And they also, as a consequence, are more happy and more innocent and more naive.
	Now, these are downsides and good sides flipped all in together.
	The Europeans have this nature to them very much.
	And the people who experience slavery or experience trauma, they become much more orientated towards shame, pain, consciousness, thinking about what happened to them.
	Memory gets installed inside of you.
	When you're in pain, you try to think, why am I in pain?
	What has happened?
	What caused this pain?
	This is a natural psychological reaction.
	And so the struggle of trauma is that you become affixed on memorizing things.
	Now, if you look at, as I said, European religions and all this, they don't, they install rituals of life in order to promote health and promote almost like this forgetful joy, natural instinct of joy and this stuff like this.
	The romance that I talked about earlier.
	Now, in Judaism, you see this just this endless relationship with guilt.
	I believe one of their entire like rituals is like remembering the guilt of, is it the wailing wall or something like this?
	And before the day of atonement is about getting rid of the guilt, and so stuff like this, and then you have the Christianity is like, what's the premise of Christianity?
	The murder of God, the guilt that we have, the trauma that we caused by killing God, this must be installed inside your brain at the very, very root.
	Every day you must remember how horrific you are because you murdered God, these type of things.
	It's trauma designed to install guilt, designed to create consciousness and change the way you think about yourself, to create hesitation, to take your innocence from you in some sense.
	Adam and Eve, loss of innocence.
	These are fundamental premises.
	Nietzsche points out that there's an analogous European myth, which is the myth of Prometheus.
	Again, such a fascinating thing to dive into.
	He compares, he cross-analyzes the two origin myths of evil.
	You have the myth of Adam and Eve.
	In Adam and Eve, you have the serpent tricking a woman into doing something evil, which causes the fall of the world and creates guilt.
	Now, what you have in Prometheus is you have a male force actively going and stealing something from the gods, and the gods attempt to punish him by introducing evil into the world.
	And he becomes a hero.
	He is brave.
	Eve is negative.
	She is bad.
	She is an anti-hero for doing this.
	Prometheus is a hero and he gets punished as a consequence of this.
	And what you have here is a brave, innocent, masculine, vital energy approaching the world saying that I'm going to launch us forward into the joy of technology and the joy of creation, and I'm going to take the consequences upon myself so that I can continue to go forward.
	A very manly attitude in Prometheus.
	Then you have contrasted this with this compliant feminine approach in the Judeo-Christian myth, where Judaism is saying to you, if you listen to your passions, if you do not have shame, if you don't follow the rules, you will create all evil in the world.
	So shut the fuck up.
	Do not bite the apple.
	Understand that you're a demon.
	You can't trust yourself.
	You can't do these things.
	It's a feminine thing.
	It's like a reactive, don't take risks, these type of things.
	Don't assert yourself upon the world, all this type of stuff.
	And again, these fundamentals, I love looking at because they show such interesting character contrast between the two.
	Yeah, you mentioned guilt.
	I talk all the time about Christianity as guilt-based mind control.
	They tell you these things are sins, like natural impulses, like seeing a beautiful woman and having the desire to reproduce.
	That's a sin, and you have to feel guilty.
	And we're all born damned for hell and commanded to be well if we just believe in the blood, magic sacrifice of the king of the Jews.
	And it's in his sacrifice, we're indebted to him because he died in our place.
	So we feel like this reciprocation that we owe him.
	And it's all psychological manipulation.
	Let's hit a couple of these super chats because it'll probably mix it up with some stuff for you to talk about.
	Sean Hammer says, Hey, Adam, you're doing great work.
	Is there any way you could schedule at least one set day in time for live streams for those who can't get notifications?
	Thanks and cheers.
	I'll try to do that, Sean.
	Sorry.
	Ali Babas, Ali Abbas says, thanks, Adam.
	And Adam, who would be the enemies of Moshiach?
	Whom would he make his footstools?
	That's the nations.
	Esau.
	Say no to Yahweh.
	You like that name?
	Says, Uberboyo, will you contrast Nietzsche's ubermensch with the false conception of a Messiah-type savior?
	It's a good question.
	That's a very interesting question.
	Yeah.
	Nietzsche's ubermensch is.
	Let me get a drink of water to clear the vocal cords for this.
	Maybe we can get into this.
	There's one thing you got to point out to Judaism is that it has a plan and it has a future and it has a dream comprehension of the world.
	And so an awful lot of people get seduced by it because of the prophecies and because of its predictive, like its speculative predictions and stuff like this, it's really engaging for people.
	It's really intoxicating.
	It really wraps up their minds.
	It makes them believe.
	Nietzsche understood psychologically that you need a future.
	Like, how do you make it out of pain?
	You believe that you can get better.
	That's the most fundamental thing you must think about.
	The psychology of this.
	Nietzsche is a psychologist fundamentally.
	You should always think of him this way.
	How do you make it out of pain?
	You're stuck.
	You're there in a situation of trauma.
	You're trying to think, what happened to me?
	And in order to stop yourself killing yourself, you must believe that at some point this pain will end.
	I'll be able to overcome this pain.
	Now, the experience of life in some sense is quite a lot of suffering.
	Life is fundamentally full of struggle.
	This is absolutely true.
	And we shouldn't rob the struggle of its innocence, but nonetheless, it is there.
	So what you need, this is another Nietzsche quote, it's like to live is to suffer.
	To survive is to find meaning in the suffering or find a purpose is probably a better word there.
	And so Judaism and Christianity, Judeo-Christianity, has this incredible ability to grab onto people when they're struggling with trauma and struggling with suffering.
	Now, Nietzsche wanted, as I said, to be creative and see of a new way that he could push the world forward.
	Like, how could you show a vision of something that would be able to motivate people, that would be able to give people a sort of idea that, all right, things can have a purpose, that I can do something outside of this matrix.
	It's a very difficult thing to do because an awful lot of people get upset with the Judeo-Christian myths and the fact it's so dominant, but like try to go beyond it and you will have a task in hand.
	And so he starts to think about this idea of transformation.
	He starts to think about this idea of evolution, of progress, because he was sort of living in the 19th century where the Europeans rediscovered or conceptualized this idea that we evolve, life evolves.
	And if you think about where we are right now in the world, what would be motivating and the most fundamental level for you?
	You know, it's like you want your kids to be stronger and healthier than you are.
	You want them to be doing really, really, really well.
	You want them to have a future.
	You want what you actually kind of fight and build and want to build your house and your home so that they become strong and they're safe.
	You know, everybody does this.
	This is the most natural instinct of all.
	Now, when you start to think about this as a tribe, as a people, as a group, you're obviously dealing with all the people.
	And you're actually starting to extend out very, very far generationally into the future.
	Now, Judaism understands this as like, all right, our people are enslaved.
	And I want to keep my people motivated that in maybe a thousand years, they're going to be saved.
	This is Judaism's version of this, but it's actually very pessimistic.
	It's very nihilistic.
	And it has no improvement inside of it.
	It's sort of like you're going to be a slave for a thousand years and then something's going to happen where everything will change.
	Now, Nietzsche's pushing all that out of the way and basically saying, imagine if each generation, this is much more practical.
	You and I, like, I'll use a very simple example, but think about like education and all these type of things as well.
	But we'll use like, say, we all became bodybuilders.
	So me and you, Adam, we said, all right, our kids, we're going to be big bodybuilders.
	Our kids are going to be even bigger than us, And they become slightly bigger bodybuilders.
	And then, over time, 10 generations down, it will be like there'll be such big, massive bodybuilders, they might be like beyond human.
	They might be the next level of human evolution bodybuilders or something like this, bodybuilder, homo, homo bodybuilder or something like this.
	Now, take that same style of thinking and project it to all forms of human competence and excellence.
	If we took science where it could go for 10 generations, what the fuck would that look like?
	We've only probably had four, five, six real generations with the peak freedom of science.
	And look how far the world has come.
	If we took education and mental acuity and working on these type of things, like how far would man's potential go?
	We could look at look at what's possible if we just get down and get organized and stop getting caught up with these demoralizing myths and these nihilistic myths where we don't have to engage with the world.
	And we instead of going to church where we all sit down and tell ourselves it's all right to be what we are and stuff like this.
	Instead, we got into educational projects and educational institutions and training institutions where we tried to make everybody better progressively over time and have morphed ourselves and tried to generationally become bigger and stronger and more powerful, more competent, more creative.
	What type of art would we produce?
	How many Beethovens would we start churning out with the power of modern movie technology combined with like 20 Mozarts, combined with like the vitality and physicality into health and all this understanding about longevity?
	In 10 generations, would we be living for 200 years?
	Would we be have an IQ of 160 each?
	Would we be making art that would rival anything that showed up in the Renaissance?
	And would we be achieving all sorts of educational scientific projects that we couldn't even dream right now?
	Like, do you understand how tangible and possible that is?
	Look at how much we've progressed in the last 400 years.
	How, if we do that for another 400 years, imagine what we could achieve.
	The only downside of this is that we can't sell it as some promise of the transformation of the world because it's going to be a slow, step-by-step progress that we're all going to have to participate in.
	But if you think about this and think about what this 10th generation might be, or maybe beyond that, it's going to be, in some sense, a superhuman, 200-year-olds, 400-IQ, Superman, who's all like that's that's going to be beyond what we are right now.
	Right now, we're this botched state of ignorance, superstition, confused, unhealthy, eaten McDonald's.
	If we could overcome that and successfully use the opportunity we have, we could go into just such an incredible future.
	And this is sort of his idea of salvation, if you want to put it this way, his idea of potential, his idea of possibility.
	Now, you'll notice that this is a very big problem again with Christianity: is that people in Christianity believe that that's the Antichrist.
	That what I just described there, that potential is that potential should be stopped at all costs because that's Elon Musk's Iron Man transhuman future and all this type of stuff, which is sort of castrating the potential at the root and forcing us again downwards into this cult of ignorance and this ignoring of what we could achieve.
	So, that's sort of my take in the Uber Mesh.
	I hope that's helpful.
	Imagine where we could be if not for Christianity in a world where Christianity never exploded like it did.
	You hear Christians say, Oh, the West was built by Christianity.
	We wouldn't have buildings if not for the Bible or morals.
	I think we built civilization in spite of Christianity.
	And Nietzsche says, This is precisely why the Jews are the most disastrous people in world history.
	They have left such a falsified humanity in their wake that even today, Christians can think of themselves as anti-Jewish without understanding that they are the ultimate conclusion of Judaism.
	Yeah.
	And again, just to add more force underneath that, because try and model that on what I was saying earlier: that if you give a Christian the ability to like think about what the promise is in Judaism and Christianity with the moshiak, it doesn't imply self-improvement, it doesn't imply development.
	It doesn't imply that you, as the individual and your successive children, need to evolve and transform and improve and become better and become stronger.
	There's this inherent, inherent stripping away of this.
	You're never going to be better.
	You must stay as you are and wait, wait in pain, wait in suffering, wait in these type of things.
	And that's actually quite a serious issue because there's this, it's like nihilistic.
	It's blackpilled in some sense.
	I always say this: Christians call me a nihilist, and I say, No, you guys are.
	You're the ones that say there's nothing to live for if not for Jesus or our Jewish superhero that's going to save us.
	And then this is it.
	And you think about this again.
	I like using practical examples because I know I talk about an awful lot of abstractions, but if you met a dude at the gym and you're saying, you know, if you just keep going to the gym for two years and follow the fucking plan that everybody has learned from like scientists, just operate with this stuff.
	It's not fantasizing.
	Stop fantasizing about the world.
	Instead, just go to the gym.
	You'll change.
	But instead, what he does is he sits in his room and he plays video games and he says, Woe is me.
	I'm in pain.
	I'm suffering.
	I have no girlfriend.
	I'm wanking into a fucking tissue.
	And he's saying to himself that, I wish the world was different.
	Woe is me.
	I wish the world was different.
	And he'll start.
	And I know this because I've been there, you know, maybe not with the tissues, but I've been there before.
	And you sit down and you say to yourself, Woe is me.
	I wish someone would just come in and change my life, change my situation.
	I wish someone would come in and transform this world.
	I wish my mother would come in and just say, It's all going to be okay.
	I'm going to flip that.
	You're going to be here.
	Here's a girl, male-ordered bride.
	It comes in the door or something like this.
	And there's this yearning for the problem to just magically get solved.
	And I understand that.
	We all understand that.
	The desire to be in a different place.
	But this is why it's so funny to criticize this stuff because it's so petty and irrational and childish to think that you're just going to get the girl by sitting in whining.
	You know, any man knows that what you need to do is get the fuck out of the video games, drop the video games, get out of the house, go to the gym, start eating clean, start getting a job, start working out, start becoming interested and reading your books, learning music.
	And then over time, you're going to become talented, start talking to the girls.
	Things are going to start to work out for you.
	Things are going to start looking up, my man.
	And you'll actually go through the process of becoming that thing.
	So much of Judeo-Christianity, when you see an existential level, is actually just that mindset of the guy in the video games, promulgating or projecting out a hope and then demanding that the world transforms to align with that hope instead of just saying this opposite approach, this ubermensch approach, I guess you could say, which is just pragmatic pragmatism, saying, what would we actually have to do to manifest this tangibly, unideologically, what would operations would need to go into place in order to achieve this?
	So it's a really good point you brought up.
	And again, if you've got anything to say, I'd love for you to tell me.
	And then there's even some great quotes from Nietzsche on this as well.
	Let's get to a few more super chats because there's some other interesting quotes people are paying for us to read here.
	Beautiful.
	E. Abel says, Synagogue of Satan was originally intended to refer to Gentiles who converted to Christianity and claimed to be Jews, not that the Jews worship Satan.
	Very plausible theory, E. Abel.
	See Through It All says, I repeat that this is an Antichrist Nietzsche quote.
	I repeat that sin, man's self-desecration par excellence was invented in order to make science, culture, and every elevation in enabling, enabling, I don't know if you misspelled that, of man impossible.
	The priest rules through the invention of sin.
	It's true.
	Guilt-based mind control rules with the invention of sin.
	Absolutely.
	And again, it's like we've already said it, but the power of trauma to take someone out of their instincts and out of their gut.
	Man, he has such brilliant criticisms of the priestly cast, as he calls them.
	If you can install inside of someone the psychology of hesitation, if you can put inside somebody a guilty conscience, you get so much power over them.
	Strip out Judeo-Christianity and look at our situation right now in the West.
	You see this haggarding of guilt on the Western consciousness at its very root.
	Western consciousness, right now, the only identity you can have in the West is a guilt-based identity.
	You colonize the world.
	It's so funny because I'm Irish, so we were a colony.
	But because I'm white, because I'm Western, I get haggard with this as well.
	You were a colonizer.
	You were someone who damaged the world.
	You were the evil.
	And this causes me to have this self-understanding of I'm bad.
	I'm shameful.
	And look at how this evolves into actions then.
	You have all these Western people that are like allowing people to tear apart their societies to destroy their books, to destroy their culture, to slander them, to hurt people.
	And they're afraid of acting against this stuff because they feel guilty and they're afraid of the consequences of them not representing this guilt externally.
	They can't have a positive identity, which is like, my passions are righteous.
	My creative impulse is righteous.
	My culture that pours out of me and my dreams are righteous.
	Think about that.
	My dreams, my cultural forms, my ideas are righteous on first principle.
	God shines through me.
	Instead, Christianity is like your dreams are evil and pagan and satanic.
	You must believe our dreams.
	You must be guilty about your instincts.
	You cannot trust your instincts.
	You must bow to me, the priest.
	I will control the dreams.
	I will control all of that type of stuff.
	And this becomes this excellent psychological operation for taming and control.
	Now, this is not unique to Judeo-Christianity.
	It happens in everything.
	As I said, it happens in secular societies, just as I described, but it's there.
	That's the important thing to understand.
	And as I was saying, Nietzsche is pointing out that the remoralization of Western people, which is essentially part of the project that needs to happen, is about understanding this and saying, well, how do you create an assertive positive identity, a life-affirming identity that allows Western people to release their creativity?
	Because fundamentally, this is going to sound kind of similar.
	The Western people, when they're creative, are essentially the people who save the world, ironically.
	You know, they're the people who bring forward the advances in medicism, medicine.
	They're the people who bring forward all this incredible stuff.
	They're the people who stopped slavery.
	There you go.
	Well, there it happened.
	And it was all because of our creative potential.
	We aiming for what we want to aim for.
	So it's important to understand these things, understand the relationship of guilt to creativity, guilt to the passions, and guilt to identity.
	Very interesting.
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	Next super chat from Subversion Diversion.
	Thank you so much.
	It says great show.
	Great guest.
	Thanks.
	Liam T. Jarrett says, great guest, Adam.
	Awesome to see a fellow Irishman break out of the curse of St. Patrick.
	Nice.
	St. Patrick's Makeup Matrix.
	Yeah.
	See Through It All says, even now, many another, this is a Nietzsche human, all too human quote.
	Even now, many educated people think that the victory of Christianity over Greek philosophy is a proof of the greater truth of the former.
	Although in this case, it is only that something more crude and violent has triumphed over something more spiritual and delicate.
	Man, we hear sheer true Nietzsche quotes, but this is like, I guess this is the way you could, you see people say stuff like, you know, because Christianity won, it's better, or it's more true.
	And you could use this logic very easily and say something like, all right, because communists beat Russia, it's more true than Christianity.
	It's like, this is kind of silly.
	This isn't the way that these things work.
	This is actually quite a Nietzsche spoke about this quite a lot.
	This is this really serious, almost like a black bill, a really hard thing to take.
	Is that if illusion leads to life, it's probably more valuable than truth.
	The use and abuse of truth, the use and abuse of history.
	If you get a story that motivates you to do the right actions, that leads you to success.
	The story, even if it's complete bullshit, is valuable in some sense because it leads to success.
	Success is what actually matters in the world.
	And truth is not as valuable as people make it out to be.
	Again, this is a really good challenge for anybody who doesn't like Christianity and stuff like this.
	You can't be resentful about it.
	You have to say to yourself, wait a second, do I have something sufficient as a narrative, sufficient as a story, and sufficient as a vision to offer an alternative?
	Because if I don't, this is the problem with Christianity is it's a very comprehensive vision.
	It's really well adapted to people's psychology.
	And this is why it's so attractive to people.
	It tells them a story that sucks them in.
	But at the same time, it's almost like the invalidation of it at its root, because just because it's visionary and has a powerful story that can psychologically motivate people doesn't necessarily mean it's reality or accurate reality at all.
	And what Nietzsche actually discovers is that Christianity has almost no tangible connections to the real world because it denies the real world so much fundamentally.
	And this is like a really big paradox and challenge.
	And we're just one of the fascinating sides of human nature.
	Because you can even say this to a Christian and say something like, well, how did the Buddhists survive if they're wrong?
	It's like, well, you know, they can believe something that's wrong and still achieve the goals of life.
	And it's a very similar style of thinking there is that ideology, stories, these things only count so much as they move us towards life and life is actually what matters.
	And if Christianity tells you to like have children and all these type of things, it's going to succeed on some level, which is the reason why it works so often, stuff like this.
	Yeah, I'd say it sort of worked for a little bit, but it's failing now terribly.
	And I think I see Christianity as just more, it won because it was more effective religious propaganda.
	And it won because somehow the leader of the Roman Empire was convinced that he could adopt it and co-opt it and use it to unite the empire or to control his people or something.
	And that's why it won out.
	And yes, I do think it's religion.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, go on.
	Just finish what you're saying.
	Well, I was going to segue that into this quote from E. Michael Jones's book, The Revolutionary Jewish Spirit.
	He cites this great.
	He is a Jewish academic, I think from the 1800s.
	And he says that Christianity was a new kind of warfare against long-established Roman institutions, which would ultimately modify or partly destroy them.
	Hijack them.
	Greats is referring to Christianity, the most successful Jewish sect, in his view, to conquer Rome from within.
	Judaism had to be modified.
	And they created a form of Judaism that was targeting the superstitious pagan world, adopting some of their demigod and paganistic beliefs.
	That's another reason that it won out because they created it to target them.
	To conquer Rome from within, Judaism had to be modified, however, and it became estranged from and placed itself in harsh antagonism in a controlled opposition dialectic to the parent source.
	Yeah, this just reminded me of another Nietzsche quote, but it's very helpful.
	What's the quote?
	And this is a Nietzsche quote from Genealogy of Morals, a very, very famous one.
	And let me see, it's probably the best one.
	Yeah, man, there's like three quotes here.
	They're just fantastic.
	So number seven in Genealogy of Morals, he says, the reader will have already surmised what ease the priestly mode of valuation can branch off from the knightly aristocratic mode.
	So this is like priestly mode is in some sense slave morality.
	Knightly mode is master morality.
	But the priest is like that crafty guy like Lenin who figures out that he's able to weaponize the resentful and he creates his power base by saying, all right, I'm going to take these resentful people.
	I'm going to stir them up and I'm going to take on the monarchy.
	And the monarchy of the Russian monarchy is sort of like the knightly aristocrats.
	These are the high nobles that have this very kind of high-minded way of looking at the world.
	And they're very creative and culturally creative.
	Look at, like, for example, Russian music before the communist revolution.
	It was so much beautiful music in there.
	Absolutely fantastic.
	So the priests versus the knights.
	And the priests and the knights develop into anthesis of each other.
	So they fight each other.
	And the knightly aristocratic values are based on a careful cult of the physical and a flowering, rich, and even evervescent healthiness that goes considerably beyond what is necessary for maintaining life, for maintaining war, for adventure, for the chase, the dance, all these types of things.
	In fact, what is considered in strong, free, and joyous action.
	So the knights are obviously like about vitality and health.
	They're in some sense pagans.
	Even the Christian knights of ancient Europe, they were pagans.
	The priestly aristocratic mode of valuation that we've seen is based on other hypotheses.
	It is bad enough for this class when it is a question of war, yet the priests are, as is notorious, the worst enemies.
	Why?
	Because they are the weakest.
	Their weakness causes their hate to expand into a monstrous and sinister shape, a shape which is most crafty and most poisonous.
	The really great haters in history of the world have always been priests who are the cleverest haters.
	In comparison with the cleverness of priestly revenge, every other piece of cleverness is practically negligible.
	Human history would be too fatuous for anything were it not for the cleverness imported into it by the weak.
	Take at once the most important instance.
	All the world's efforts against the aristocrats, the mighty, the masters, the holders of powers are negligible by comparison with what has been accomplished against those classes by the Jews.
	The Jews, the priestly nation, which has eventually realized that the one method of effecting satisfaction on its enemies and tyrants was by means of a radical trans-valuation of all values, which was at the same time an act of the cleverest revenge.
	Yet the method was only appropriate to a nation of priests, to a nation of the most jealously nursed priestly vengefulness.
	It was the Jews who, in opposition to the aristocratic way of seeing the world and their value system, which is that it is good to be aristocratic.
	It is good to be beautiful.
	It is good to be happy.
	And if you are beautiful, good, happy, you are real, true, and loved by the gods.
	And they dared with a terrifying logic to suggest the contrary evaluation of the world.
	And indeed, to maintain with the teeth of the most profound hatred, this is the hatred of the weakness.
	This contrary way of seeing the world was that the wretched, the botched, the weak, the resentful, they are alone the good.
	The poor, the weak, the lowly are all alone the good, the suffering, the needy, the sick, the loathsome.
	They are the ones who are religious.
	They are pious.
	They are the only ones who are blessed, for they alone is salvation.
	But you, on the other hand, you aristocrats, you men of power, you are all eternity, the evil, the horrible, the covetous, the prideful, the lustful, the insatiate, the godless.
	Eternally also shall you be unblessed.
	You shall be cursed and you shall be damned.
	We know who it is who reaped the heritage of this transvaluation in the context of the monstrous, fateful initiative which the Jews have exhibited in connection with this most fundamental of all declarations of war.
	It was in fact with the Jews that the revolt of the slaves begins in the sphere of morals.
	That revolt, which has been in a history of two millennia, which at present day has only moved out of our sights because it has achieved victory.
	That's powerful.
	Savage stuff.
	That's him getting into this.
	We talk about master slave morality.
	He's getting into this idea that we have these priests, like Vladimir Lenin.
	You know, you can imagine there's been millions of characters like him, and he's a priest.
	And he's like, I see power in these resentful people.
	But of course, if he wants to motivate them, he can't say to them, you're these botched, resentful idiots that I can brainwash.
	So he has to tell them a beautiful lie, as you said.
	You're beautiful.
	You're chosen by God.
	You're special.
	Stay motivated.
	And those monarchs, those Russian monarchs are crooked, are evil, are botched, are guilty, should be full of shame.
	And they flip the story.
	And then when they conquer them, they establish a religious institution, which is the reason why I brought this up.
	They build institutions to install that worldview in the Russian society.
	This is what communism was.
	They install the worldview of equality that they used to weaponize the people against the Russians.
	But because it was a lie, Russian communist society collapsed after 70 years because it was such an egregious denial of nature.
	Speaking of Lenin, he's got the famous quote that the best way to control the opposition is to lead it.
	And I think that's what they, that controlled opposition dialectic is what they did with Christianity.
	The best way to lead Rome is to target them not on the battlefield.
	They couldn't beat them on the battlefield, but they could engage in spiritual theological warfare.
	And that's what they did.
	And it was a success.
	Here's another one that would have been perfect.
	Just to validate your woke Rome theory, this is from Roman satirist Juvenal saw Christianity as a theological warfare threat on Roman culture.
	It says here, the Roman satirist Juvenal laments about the corrupt influence of Judaism and other foreign cults on Roman tradition.
	He complains about fellow fortunate for fellow Romans, quote, who have had a father who reveres the Sabbath and who worships, quote, nothing but clouds and the divinity of the heavens.
	It is clear that Juvenil is speaking about Jewish practices performed by Romans and ill-fated consequences for the future children of Rome.
	Yeah, he was right.
	Quote, in time, they, the children, take to circumcision, having been wont to flout the laws of Rome, they learn and practice and revere the Jewish law.
	And here's one more.
	Watch this.
	This is from Dennis Prager's Why the Jews About Anti-Semitism.
	Seneca says the conquered have given their laws to the conquerors.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's bizarre.
	It's amazing.
	You know, it really is amazing.
	Is there anything else you want to go through?
	No, go ahead, comment.
	I've got more, but go ahead.
	Your thoughts.
	Sweet.
	Yeah.
	Like, I think there's also a side of this, which is, again, very fascinating because, again, like a kind of cartoonish anger at the Jews for stuff like this.
	In some sense, and Nietzsche points this out, like these people were just trying to put themselves in the winning position.
	You must understand this.
	Like, it's like they actually were slaves.
	And what are you supposed to say to them?
	It's like, don't try to win.
	It's like, that's not how life works.
	So these people were playing the field that was in front of them.
	And Nietzsche admires this greatly in them.
	He says that the Jews have a huge amount of psychological vitality.
	His whole project, though, was that saying that, like, look, they have this great psychological vitality, but I think they're wrong with the way they see things.
	And I have enough psychological vitality to push that out of the way and go for what's going on and create something better and create something superior.
	And this is actually one of the problems with Christianity, which is that Christianity subverts that ability for Western man to be creative and create a new paradigm.
	It's constantly jumping up and saying, no, you can't do this.
	You must stick to the Bible.
	The Bible is how everything works and all these type of things.
	And it becomes this constant thing biting at your feet, stopping you from able to launch into the future and create something new.
	It's stopping you being able to let go and just go forward and become creative and release your passions and take on the world.
	Instead, it's always there trying to say to you, no, go back to the guilt complex.
	Go back to these type of things.
	And so when Nietzsche's, when you see someone like Dennis Prager, I see this in Jews quite a lot because they would say stuff like, we moralize the Roman people, and they believe it sincerely.
	And it's actually sort of true in the way that you understand it.
	You know, the Roman people were Martian barbarians conquering the world.
	And the Jews do think of themselves as possessing this noble law.
	They think they possess morality, which is fine.
	You know, they can believe this.
	It's incorrect and it's irrational.
	The problem is when Christians validate that and enable them, that's the most frustrating part.
	And this is it.
	And so, like, they go in and they see themselves as they're proud of what they've achieved and what they have done.
	And that's okay.
	That's absolutely fine.
	You know, I don't think it's true.
	I don't think you're more, like, as Nietzsche points out, Nietzsche tries to give a really sufficient academic justification of why what you think you did was wrong.
	He wrote genealogy of morals.
	He wrote genealogy of morals for his Jewish friend.
	He had a Jewish friend who he got on really well with and he really liked.
	And the Jewish friend wrote this little story about how out of Judea evolved proper modern morality.
	And Nietzsche was like, listen, this is silly.
	This is my Jewish friend.
	This is not how this works.
	So he wrote genealogy of morality to give them the true story.
	And he explains how Judaism carried slave morality and it's like, wipe all this stuff off.
	And of course, this is a big deal.
	And he kind of lays it out.
	He explains, this is how it actually works.
	This is how reality actually happens and all these types of things.
	And this is it.
	It's that it's a superior intellectual position.
	It's a superior imaginary position.
	And it's very artistically vital, which is why during the 20th century, almost every major artistic movement was heavily inspired by Nietzsche because it had that belief that, oh my God, we can actually seize the future.
	We live in this age where it feels like everything's coming apart and people run back to stuff like Christianity because they want order, like Jordan Peterson and stuff like this.
	But then they just get caught up in something that's stultifying.
	Look at how Jordan Peterson has to basically become a Zionist because he doesn't have the creative vitality to create a destiny for his people, for Canada, for all this type of stuff.
	He projects that masculine creativity, that Promethean creativity into the Jewish people because he fetishizes them because he has castrated himself, maybe via Christianity, to not allow himself to do this.
	Whereas Nietzsche is just saying, this is so silly.
	Look how stupid this is.
	Let's just make something for ourselves.
	Let's just go for it.
	We can do this.
	Stop.
	Why do we haggard ourselves with guilt?
	We can do it.
	Like, we have so much vitality in the European people.
	We've so much potential, but we need to have a good conscience about it and go for it.
	I agree.
	I wish we could instead of trusting the plan.
	That's another thing.
	Lenin, they had the trust project.
	New life.
	What?
	I was just saying, oh, no, oh, no.
	Yeah, it was like a controlled opposition that, oh, the good guys, the white hats are in charge and don't worry and just trust the plan.
	Just like we have QAnon is the modern-day Christianity.
	You know, Christians are taught to trust in Jesus, trust the plan.
	He's going to float down from the clouds and save us.
	Just things have to get really bad first, and the Antichrist has to rule and, you know, massive wars and suffering and all of that.
	Imminent Rain says, killer show, Adam, grateful for all you're doing, bro.
	Hail so hard.
	And snap out of it says, thank you both for getting this information out to everyone.
	Yeah, this is really important stuff.
	Have you seen this one?
	Are you familiar with this, Marcus Eli Ravage?
	So I was either talking about him or Maurice Samuel.
	I think I've actually heard of both and listened to both of them, but I just don't know which is which, I'm afraid.
	Let me play this one.
	It's two minutes.
	I'm going to run and go take a pee and I'll be right back, okay?
	Okay, sweet.
	But what is that besides the unquestionable history?
	But what is that besides the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we have never denied because you have never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anyone to read?
	If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about?
	What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners, and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish gospels?
	You have not yet begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt.
	We are intruders.
	We are disturbers.
	We are subverters.
	We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them.
	We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war, but of nearly all your wars.
	Not only of the Russian, but of every other major revolution in your history.
	We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life.
	We are still doing it.
	No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.
	Look back a little and see what happened.
	1900 years ago, you were an innocent, carefree pagan race.
	You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland.
	You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies.
	You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure.
	You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena, and the battleground.
	War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems.
	Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and the mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy.
	Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unurked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality.
	Are you familiar with this one before?
	Is this what you were thinking of?
	Yeah, I've definitely heard that before.
	I've definitely heard something else.
	I think Mario Samarrel maybe has a different perspective, but he actually sort of says the same motifs.
	But point being is that this is, yeah, it's fantastic.
	It's such a clear understanding of it.
	You know, it's fascinating that the Jews can have such a clear-headed understanding of it.
	You know, they can sit down and say to themselves and just observe and notice these things and think, yeah, well, I guess this is sort of true.
	And this is something you see, I guess, with many Jews is that they're a little bit more conscious of these things on some level.
	They have this ability to.
	I've heard someone say this before, which is brilliant.
	The Jews understand the Europeans in a way that Europeans often don't understand themselves.
	And the Europeans often understand the Jews in the way the Jews don't understand themselves because the outsider is always going to be able to see things that you can't.
	And you see this an awful lot.
	You see this an awful lot in profound ways.
	Like Nietzsche, many people, many Jews would read Nietzsche and they just like that whole idea of like slave morality coming from their religion is just so hardcore on the way they see the world.
	Dennis Prager reading that would be like, whoa, man.
	Like that would just break him apart.
	But they read it and it's so well presented that they're like, I can't really deny it.
	You know, the only way they can really deny Nietzsche is call him calling him an incel.
	Like that's, it's just that's the only reason, oh, he was an irrational incel who died of syphilis.
	You know, that's the way you get rid of him.
	It's like, listen, bro, you sit down and just let his words sink into your brain and you'll be like, man, there's something, there's something true here.
	So, yeah, no, incels in Christianity with their eunuchs and their chastity and their thinking sex is evil and all this stuff and a sin.
	Here's you Gentiles, Maurice Samuel, page nine on the chapter on religion.
	It says, We gave you the dogmas, and that the difference between you and us is that you believe the Messiah has already come while we believe that he is yet to come.
	And you believe in the doctrine of forgiveness while we believe in the doctrine of retaliation.
	Big difference there.
	And it is love your enemy, you know, submit to the government authorities.
	They're anointed by God.
	It teaches you to hate your own family, put Jesus before your own family, be meek, and the losers are going to win in the end.
	The last will be first.
	It really is such slave religion.
	It's like Stockholm Syndrome slave religion, where it's, you know, the God is going to torture you forever if you don't grovel before him and bow down and worship him.
	It's sad.
	Like, it's quite fascinating as well, because the so he could just maybe say to me again a little bit of that quote because there's something in it that you were articulating.
	We gave you the dogmas of your religion, and that you have a doctrine of forgiveness, and we believe in the doctrine of retaliation.
	Forgiveness.
	Apologies.
	So this is again something quite fascinating.
	Again, from Nietzsche, where he's kind of trying to give Christianity its due and points out to some fascinating things in it, such as its habit for forgiveness and its habit for forgetfulness.
	Like there's great advantage in being able to forget.
	There's great advantage in, as I said earlier, it's actually a master morality trait.
	Blessed are the forgetful.
	They get the better, even their mistakes.
	They can move on.
	They can listen to their passions.
	So he's pointing out in some sense that like Christ and what he brought to Judea was quite surreal in some sense.
	Like there's certain parts of Christianity that are bombastic and conquering in some sense, like able to conquer resentment.
	This is actually one of its very, very powerful traits.
	The danger, of course, is that Judaism is the opposite of that.
	Judaism does not have this type of forgiveness.
	It has much more vengeance and it has much more trauma inside of it and has much more like long-term begrudging memory, which is a bit of an issue because if you have a naive, innocent Christian who's got all this forgetfulness and forgiveness, which are actually good traits, but it's not balanced with understanding of the world and a self-interest and assertiveness and these type of things.
	It can leave them very, very vulnerable, which is again also Nietzsche talking about the kind of castrated sheep that you often see Christians turn into, which is quite scary.
	Like they become the flock.
	It's literally out there.
	The words they use is like my flock.
	It's so brutal when you think about this.
	Sheep, how can you get mad at Jews for calling us comparing us to cattle when you call yourself a proud sheep?
	It's like, there you go, you know.
	And of course, what's the virtues of a sheep is to be forgetful and happy and chewing the cud in the field and all this.
	This is good stuff.
	Just follow like a lemming and be slaughtered eventually.
	And this is it.
	I think this is really what Nietzsche is always trying to point out: Christianity is castrating your ability to connect with something in you that's creative, that's bombastic, that's brave, that's powerful.
	This is really what he's trying to say: is that like if I was to put it as one big idea, which I've already said, we Europeans have such a profound world perspective, but we're just very unconscious of it.
	Nietzsche even says this: we're not very good at religion.
	It's not something that we're very suitable with.
	We're much more earthly people.
	We're much more down to earth.
	But in the Enlightenment, we achieved this great liberation from Judeo-Christianity.
	If you go back and you read Voltaire, like he's famously castigated for being too anti-Semitic and stuff like this.
	And the reasons why he is, is kind of different than you see an awful lot of people now.
	Like he's just basically saying Judeo-Christianity caused all the ignorance in the world and stuff like this.
	And then he kind of throws a couple of tantrums outside of that.
	But what you're seeing in these Enlightenment philosophers in France, like 300 years ago, in this project, which we kind of now look as maybe part of liberalism.
	But at the same time, it was actually us returning to our old soul.
	We were becoming enlightened.
	We were realizing that we can actually think for ourselves.
	If you listen to an awful lot of atheists, an awful lot of people like this, you'll hear them trying to throw off Christian guilt, which is actually an interesting thing to do because it's got something inside of it that's valuable.
	The Enlightenment's trying to throw off Christian guilt, throw off this haggardness to ignorance, throw off this unconscious traditionalism and embrace the natural world.
	And it's intellectual processes that allow us to engage with the natural world and the bravery to be creative alongside of this.
	The Promethean energy was coming back in the Enlightenment.
	And what was happening there is European men were digesting and spiritually conquering Judeo-Christianity and shunting it out of their bodies and moving on to something new.
	As I said, Nietzsche's project, Nietzsche's worry, is that we weren't throwing out Christian morality in the Christian worldview completely.
	And he felt that that was going to cause loads of problems in the future, which obviously it in some sense has.
	You have nowadays liberalism, which is actually a sort of atheist version of Christian morality.
	And then you have the alternate, which is right-wing Christianity, which again is just Christianity in and of itself.
	And they both are very compliant, sheepish operations within the world.
	And Nietzsche is again pointing out to this idea.
	Like, how do you create a worldview that engages with the scientific project that is pro-nature, that is not resentful, not resentful to Judaism, not resentful to Christianity, not resentful to the Jews, but beyond them, not like not tethered to them.
	It's like you just walk out of the room where a stupid argument is happening and go build something, this type of thing.
	And the Enlightenment Project, the romance that we achieved and the ideas of love and the passions, the redemption of the passions is sort of what happened there.
	That was a big, big success, a big overcoming of Christian morality.
	The project of science, all these type of things.
	This stuff is fertile ground for us to create a future that is ours and based on our visions and based on the realities of the world and positive and creative and healthy.
	And you'll notice that that's what we're missing right now.
	Like, I'll leave this as the last thing.
	The world we live in right now, if you want to do a broad stroke across it, is a world that is anti-life, is life-denying, as Nietzsche said.
	If you look at the transsexual problem, if you look at the feminist problem, you look at the masculinity crisis, you look at the abortions, you'll see underneath them, abortions, kill your children, get euthanasia in Canada.
	If you're a woman, deny your feminine instincts.
	If you're a man, you're not allowed to be a man.
	You must be a castrati.
	If you're born a woman or a man, maybe you should cut your own dick off for this like fake identity and stuff like this.
	If you're European, you cannot have a creative culture.
	You cannot do what life wants you to do and create.
	You cannot have kids.
	You cannot create.
	You cannot produce a culture.
	You cannot do this type of stuff.
	You're evil.
	You're guilty.
	Instead of creativity, you must feel guilt.
	You must feel shame.
	This is what must happen.
	You must cuckold yourself for other people.
	You must give away your creative potential to others, be it minorities, be it Israel, be it whatever it is.
	There's this cockolder, this anti-life, this denial of your creative passions.
	And this is the fundamental problem.
	And you'll notice that many Christians are sort of on your side as a consequence of this.
	Many of them are healthy and they don't want to do this type of stuff.
	I think they're just a little bit misled.
	I understand why they're going in the direction that they're going.
	But ultimately, you're not going to do anything with them unless you're winning a positive vision that's beyond all that stuff.
	And sort of saying, how will we go towards life?
	How do we understand our virtues and embrace our virtues again and build a sense of ourselves that's based on this stuff once again?
	And as I said, I think that was Nietzsche's project.
	And I think we're kind of fucked if we don't continue it.
	Yeah, it's like Christianity teaches that worldly wisdom is like evil and that you should have blind faith, you know, like doubting Thomas, you know, have faith when you haven't seen.
	It teaches like gullibility as a virtue.
	And that's a recipe for disaster.
	Iru says, thank you so much, Iru, by the way, says, people forget order versus chaos does not equal good versus evil.
	The Soviet Union was quote orderly, but would anybody consider it quote good place to live?
	It's a good point.
	And snap out of it.
	Thank you so much for the donations today.
	Snap out of it.
	Says, give us the Lord.
	Give us the blood, Lord.
	Let us get away.
	Okay.
	We're at the two-hour mark now.
	I feel like we've covered a ton of ground, got some really important ideas out there.
	You have any closing thoughts for us and let everybody know where they can find your stuff and what else they can see there on your channel?
	Fantastic.
	Yeah.
	Like if you have any last questions, I'm happy to go into them.
	I'm not too pressed for time.
	And as I said, if anybody wants to find me, like my closing thoughts, I actually think the thing I just said would be the big one, like that positive, creative attitude, allowing yourself to unshackle yourself from frames of thinking.
	If you think about it as an artist, you think about yourself as a creator, you think about yourself as a brave leader.
	This is always the experience that geniuses, creatives, futuristic people have is that you have uninspiring people, people who maybe aren't as sharp as you and all this.
	And it's not, you can't hate them.
	This is not, that's not right to do.
	But they're not, they're not on your level.
	They're not, they're not as dynamic.
	They're not, they're not as capable.
	And they are constantly gnawing at your heels and trying to pull you down and shackle you to their reality, which is full of fear and guilt and not understanding reality and all these type of things.
	And so you have someone like Elon Musk, Napoleon, creative people like Mozar Beethoven.
	These people are trying to, Nietzsche, they're trying to launch forward towards a future.
	And what's so interesting is that usually they get attacked.
	They get told that's the one thing you can't do.
	But when they create the future, everybody moves into the new pastures and then it becomes normal.
	And then people don't realize that the whole paradigm was won by crazy attempts by people.
	Where we find ourselves right now is that I think there's a vacuum.
	I don't see a coherent, strong, repetitive vision being presented of a new future outside of all this nonsense that actually understands it as just like, you know, kind of a rational religious superstitious from the past and all this, but something that blazes forward towards into the future.
	As I said, Nietzsche has this fertile creativity for this.
	And when we see that stuff showing up, I think huge leaps and bounds will happen because I actually think people are ready for that.
	I think people right now want something to believe in.
	But we've been through the scientific process.
	We've been through the Christian process.
	We've been through these things.
	And they want something where they can look at the world that is able to integrate them without being cucked to their worst sides, if I want to put it this way.
	And that's where the true genius of the future is going to pull something together.
	John Garadis just said, Uber Boyo, is Jesus' story based on a real person or is it just pure fiction?
	You got to take on that.
	Look, again, I don't have good takes on this stuff.
	What did Nietzsche think?
	He thought he was a real person, right?
	So Nietzsche has a couple of different takes on the Bible in and of itself.
	Nietzsche thought he was a real person.
	Nietzsche treated him as a real person, assumed he was a real person.
	I sort of assume that too as well.
	I assume he was a dude.
	And Nietzsche critiques the ideas, which I actually quite like is that he gives it like a punch in the gut and says, like, this is the actual, forget about him, forget about the historicity of it.
	This is almost like falling into the frame.
	People are like, oh, it has to be a prophecy.
	It has to be part of the big story of the prophecy and all this type of stuff.
	And then it's like, no, the prophecy, the historiography is wrong.
	And it's like, well, let's put all that aside.
	Let's pretend it's right.
	It's still a bad idea.
	It's still not going to, it's still a slave morality.
	You're still completely like, it's still anti-science, anti-life.
	You fuck then.
	You know, it's like, it doesn't matter if it's real or not because you've defeated the actual paradigm, which is the most important thing.
	But saying that the prophecies matter or verifying them is in some sense falling into that a little bit, if you will.
	But other than that, like Nietzsche did also suggest in the Antichrist and many other things that there's no reason to assume that the priestly class in charge of Judea didn't falsify, didn't make up religious principles.
	He thought that like certain parts of it just don't click at all.
	He was like, I'm not even sure if the whole Egypt side of the story was even real at all.
	He has feelings like this.
	He doesn't get into it too much because that would have been sort of academic suicide for him.
	But since then, an awful lot of biblical scholarship has come out.
	And some people suggest with decent evidence by doing textual analysis that the Maccabees, who happened in sort of Alexander the Great's era, or just after him, they were the beginning, you know, and much of Israel, much of the story of Israel was massively distorted to suit them.
	And maybe Egypt itself didn't happen at all because I don't think, I think it's very hard to find evidence for stuff like Egypt.
	And the kind of like timelines are all kind of like botched up and stuff like this.
	And the point being is that there's an awful lot of spin in this.
	There's an awful lot of big stories.
	And people who take it as like, you know, you know the line, it's a revelation and it's all true.
	It's like, bro, whoa.
	Like, let's fold the brakes here a little bit while we're taking serious on this front.
	And so the historiography of it is a little bit, he's gray areas about it.
	He basically says psychologically, there's no reason to assume that People wouldn't lie.
	That happens all the time.
	But he just doesn't know.
	He didn't have the evidence for it back then.
	Eru says, can y'all cover the banned TikTok bill, the Restrict Act being pushed through Congress?
	It's basically a Digital Patriot Act, which criminalizes VPNs and contains penalties up to 20 years in prison, $1 million property seizure.
	This is in tandem with anti-Semitism laws.
	Well, you pretty much just did right there.
	Iru, I'll have to look into it more.
	Thank you so much for that super chat.
	Do you think I'd actually have a go ahead?
	I have a question for you, Adam.
	I don't know too much about the politics side of stuff.
	I obviously don't know much about the, as I said, like the historiography.
	Like you've actually much more comprehensive geopolitical modeling of this and all this.
	I saw Joe Biden gave a slight to Netanyahu there recently on Twitter.
	He was basically saying like there's a revolution going on of the left wing of Israel trying to take out the right wing.
	And Joe Biden was like, no, not fuck him, but he basically says, no, I'm not really going to help him.
	You know, we're not involved in this and all these type of things.
	What do you see about that?
	Like, do you see that there's a, because I know the Irish left wing don't like Zionism at all.
	And obviously Joe is the left wing of America.
	Is there some kind of like bickering going on there between right-wing Zionism and left-wing Zion, left-wing Israel or something?
	Okay, so it's just, it's just stuff like that that's going on.
	Yeah, it's, it's not, you know, there's different factions, of course.
	I have a question.
	So your view, Nietzsche's view, do we need like some type of like throwback to spirituality to as an alternative to replace Christianity?
	Is that kind of the direction your mindset?
	Look, again, with this stuff, the call for it is very comprehensive.
	So I don't think I've got like it all figured out by any means.
	If you think about how the Renaissance happened, there was like 50 super artists involved and they were all making part of the story.
	And if we are to see the future of Western culture in an ascendant creative phase, we need to look at many of these online movements of reactionaries and they need to mature and get intelligent and stop being crybabies and sort of say, do I have the creative spirit in me to create something new?
	And out of that, like a guy will show up and he'll just be like a total psychology guy and he'll just figure it all out in that front and do brilliant things.
	A political guy will show up.
	An artist guy will show up.
	There's some guy called Fende Viller and he just loves sculpture and he actually has brilliant takes on art and art aesthetics and all this, but he did like that's that's his thing.
	He doesn't have much else going on with this stuff.
	So with Christianity, if you wanted to see an alternate vision, maybe you'd need some type of religious genius to come up and integrate all the modern science we have on like astral projection and what the CIA were doing with Stargate and maybe integrate psychology because psychology and religion are fundamentally tied and neuroscience and some guy would blaze all that into a perspective that would be very very powerful yeah absolutely like a hundred percent the christianity speaks to anxieties inside people's souls people need to know what's
	to happen after they die and stuff like this these are all important things for people to figure out i'm afraid i don't have the solution i don't know any of this stuff it's much too big for me but um i have an awful lot of faith that if as i said the creative spirit is released and you've got a couple of mature level-headed people who really have conquered their spirits in their very christian way and then they're not going out and you know being resentful and being reactionaries and actually producing something that's built on first principles you could see amazing things start to show up very
	very quickly because we have an awful lot of power with modern science we've covered such amazing ground for all sorts of things as a consequence okay so that's kind of sounded like more of like a secular philosophy type of worldview that people can get behind but i i just i hear the question from a uh from christians all the time oh what are we going to replace it with without worshiping jesus who else are we going to be slaves to and it almost seems like people do you get like groups get like a uh political advantage by
	uniting around some type of like mascot but i just this is why christianity also why christianity won out is they did a better job of uh pretending that their deity was a historical figure where people could actually if people don't sincerely believe in this deity then i don't think it has the same placebo effect as if they did if they don't it's true and it's something we got to be realistic about again i don't have it all figured out so like this is where you start to get into platonism
	type idea like a noble lie like maybe maybe people will need some story of some sort i'm not too sure but again i look at modern culture people say this stuff to me but i look at modern culture and europe is very atheist man like we believe we don't believe as religiously as we used to and people's religious beliefs are dropping down very very fast people still live and die people still are psychologically healthy people still show up to work i think because the value system is so
	negatively premised on the european spirit and on life affirmation that it's it's bad but you could i could easily see something be a sort of like an a secular worldview do perfectly fine because to be perfectly honest the europeans have been quite secular for nearly close to 300 years at this point and that's no joke like that's a long time that we've been thinking this way and i like again in europe people are like there's a religious quality in europe that is um not as strong as it is
	here like christianity kind of hangs in the background as a cultural thing so i i'm like maybe it'd be very difficult again like it's not to go to evangelicals and tell them you have to drop christianity and that's the kind of thing is like do you even want to do something like that but what happens if the sophisticated intellectual um high parts of of civilization develop this meta perspective on religion that allows people to to have a very complicated and sophisticated understanding of what's happening like a sort of secular
	scientific understanding baked in a sufficient philosophy a life philosophy that might be enough to actually win that might be enough to put things in a good place so again i don't know speculate an awful lot but um i'm sure you can see the way i'm trying to think and that's probably more important i wanted to share one last thing with you in regards to your woke rome uh video here's from legends of the jews this is the jewish safari written by the authoritative lewis ginsburg he says they israel and rome are the two nations destined to be hated by all
	the world and this is jacob and esau the the twins story first esau christianity the roman world will subjugate the roman world will subjugate the whole world but in the end jacob will rule over all so it's almost like they created a religion got rome to impose and spread the torah and the worship of yahweh all over the world and in the end they will take the reins and then edom after it served rome and roman empire after it served its role and its purpose will be destroyed and then
	jacob will take over so this literally is you know the rabbinical plan well see this is a lot of the like you could i could also say that this is like a a fantasy like a vengeance fantasy that obviously they're trying to enact it in some level right but it's like that doesn't that's not how the world has to be like that's that's just it's like it's i i have some random fantasy and dream about how i'd like the world to be and it's like you can turn around and be like steph christians think this is how the world has to be see this is and this is a big issue it's like the demoralizing nature of
	buying into divisions that you don't understand that are not created out of your spirit.
	Like, it's not good, you know?
	But at the same time, it's like, it's also, you can see it's silliness inside of this stuff.
	It's like, oh, like, what?
	It's you're, you're telling me that, first of all, it's natural that they want to see themselves as powerful and succeeding and all this type of stuff.
	And Europeans have to be very careful of like complaining about that as well.
	Like, we, we Westerners, if we turn around and say, oh, they want to rule the world.
	It's like, well, we ruled the world 200 years ago with good conscience.
	It's more of a question of like, when we rule the world at the high mark of science and the high mark of our culture, we were bringing, like, we were saving the world in some sense.
	We, we were doing an actual good job.
	Like, what's the promise here?
	The promise here is not sufficient.
	The promise here is not good.
	It's like, what?
	You're going to bring people back to beating the head over the book, forcing Noah's laws upon them, superstition, unconsciousness.
	Like, this is nonsense.
	It's the same problem with communism.
	You know, it's like all this speculation and all this type of stuff, but the plan is not tangible.
	You're not actually talking about a way where you're going to unleash the power of life and improve the experience of mankind globally.
	And specifically, allowing the Western creative spirit to do its job because it's the leader in being able to do this stuff.
	Our vision is better.
	Our dream is better.
	I understand these guys, they want the future and they believe in the future and all this.
	But as I said, I've spoken to loads of Jews who just think it's silly.
	They go in the synagogue and they listen to these guys pontificate in the same way that you would look at a priest and be like, he's just fucking talking random shit from a book that's 3,000 years old.
	Yeah, but the book has been dominating human history for the last 2,000 years more than any other institution.
	Wouldn't you agree?
	Absolutely.
	And again, Nietzsche says that our problem, it's time that we paid the hard price for converting to Christianity for becoming Christian.
	There's all actions have their equal and opposite reaction.
	And allowing ourselves to think this way has had a permanent effect on us and has put particular problems in front of us that are very, very difficult.
	And again, Nietzsche's attitude is very assertive, very masculine.
	He's like, all right, well, the situation is what it is.
	How can we grab it by the horns and turn it and win?
	Like, what's the win condition?
	And as I keep saying, now, this is again my suggestion.
	You don't have to believe me.
	I think that becoming creative, establishing a superior, more intelligent, more sophisticated worldview that's persuasive to intelligent people and empowers people to be creative, that's empowering people towards life so that these traditionalists don't feel that they need to be castrated by urban weirdos and stuff like this.
	They are perfectly right to want to live in nature and stuff like this.
	I think that's a winning play compared to this.
	And then you think about what the opposite offer here is like you have to bow down to some superstitious fantasy of moral oppression by all these.
	It's like there's no competing there, man.
	It's just a different, it's a different level.
	You know, it's, it just seems so silly when you look at it, this type of stuff.
	A ru, last super chat.
	Appreciate you so much, Aru says Abrahamic religions have adopted a quote win by default philosophy.
	It's not about if it's true, not about if it's moral, only if they're the ones left standing.
	Then they'll just rewrite history as though it was fated and pretend that they're in control of their destiny.
	Yeah, that's what it is: prophecy deceptions and copes, combination of those.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like the prophecy ones is particularly like wild when you think about it because it's like if I if I just told you my dreams and my promises and you're just like, okay, and then it's, it's amazing.
	It's like, think about what's happening there.
	It's like, I will be the one who dreams.
	I'll be the one who does the imagination, the thinking.
	I'll be the one who does the world modeling.
	And you, I'm special.
	I'm, it's like if you imagine ancient Greece, there was the oracles, you know, and people would go in with reverence and look at these oracles and the oracles would blast out these visions.
	And they would, there's something mystical about these oracles that we give them prestigious status.
	And it's like, why?
	Why are you listening?
	The Jews sort of do this because they're a priestly people.
	So all they have, their asset, is their dream production faculty.
	And it's psychologically vital of them to pull this off.
	You know, they did great in some sense.
	But then when you take a couple of steps back and look at it and be like, wait a second, why should we be following these random dreams?
	I'm not sure if it's going to take us any reasonable future.
	Like, what are we actually trying to do here, lads?
	They convinced the world that the one true God of the universe chose them and that their ancient homeland is the Holy Land and that we're all meant to serve them and follow them and follow their God.
	And it's like Christians are dancing along to this.
	They're going along with all this, corroborating, affirming them, elevating them to like a divine prophets of God status.
	And that was the plan all along.
	And they achieved that through Christianity.
	And yeah, and it comes down to something simple.
	If like you believe somebody else's dreams and somebody else's creativity, like this is that's going to be your life then.
	You're giving your mind over to someone else.
	Terrence McKenna said, if you believe, if you don't have your own plan, you'll become part of somebody else's.
	And in some sense, this is a big serious question, again, about this creative question.
	It's like, look, if you don't have the psychological vitality to come up with an alternative, well, you deserve it in some sense.
	This is just how life works.
	So you got to stand up and, you know, take, take the, become vital enough to produce something in order to rival it.
	And this is, again, this is, it's a weird feeling I get when I hear people and I talk to Christians.
	And again, I love them.
	Like, I do want to see, because a lot of them are my guys and I want to see them do well.
	And I understand their anxieties and stuff like this.
	And I don't want to be a dick about it.
	But at the same time, it's like, it's horribly hard to hear them like rambling on about these prophecies and stuff like this.
	And it's like, bro, I want to be hard on them because they deserve it because they're a huge issue.
	And I'm not pulling punches.
	They want to call anybody that doesn't want to worship the God of Israel and the king of the Jews.
	They want to call everybody a Jew.
	They go, oh, who else doesn't like Jesus?
	The Jews.
	So either way, you worship the Jew or you're a Jew to these people.
	They're insane.
	And, you know, you're from Ireland.
	You told me, tell me what you said about Greens in Ireland.
	What do you mean about Greens in Ireland?
	Did you say you knew lots of Greens, people with the Green last name or something?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	So, for example, yeah, when I was growing up, yeah, because Adam Green and you were telling me that you get accused of being Jewish and all this stuff.
	And it's like, I grew up in Ireland and there was in my class, there was Greens.
	I remember there was like several times throughout my life and all this type of stuff.
	You meet loads of them, you know, you meet loads of them.
	It might have even been a Protestant name from what I think about.
	It's common in England too, England and Ireland.
	Yeah, it could be an English.
	Snap out of it says, thank you guys.
	Awesome conversation.
	And Pagan Bear says the boomer's solution, the Christian boomer's solution to white genocide is worry about the next life, not this one, and Jesus will fix it.
	And I'll add, oh, we're all brothers under Christ.
	You know, it's a universal religion for all.
	Then you have at least half the younger people brainwash against their own people.
	What does one do against this?
	Then we have the gene altering vaccs great plan, Yahweh.
	Yeah, gotta love Yahweh's divine plan.
	It's really awesome.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Uber boyo, appreciate you so much for coming on.
	I really enjoyed the conversation.
	Everybody go sub to his channel, the Irish Storyteller.
	You do one-on-one coaching as well.
	You've got a huge catalog going back years of videos here.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, yeah, you can find me on YouTube.
	I'm also on Twitter.
	I think they would probably be the best places to check because this tends to be where things go off.
	And it's great man because like speaking to you about this stuff it's very hard to find people who are sort of at that point where they kind of say all right look i think this is nonsense And then that's actually where I think the conversation starts because I find myself an awful lot just trying to argue with people about being able to get to the premise of like, all right, what happens if the Judeo-Christian myths are silly?
	What's the next step?
	And I think that's where all the magic happens at that point.
	And because we're so haggard in the mythos, trying to break out of it, like most people you speak to are just sort of like, oh no, they want to talk about Christianity or they want to talk about the viability of it and all these type of things.
	And you see people like, as I said, Jordan Peterson and all this.
	It's like this very difficult circular problem where people are in the modern world.
	There are obviously problems with the woke modern world because of many bad principles that are against life and against the affirmation of life.
	And then people wake up from that stuff.
	And the options that they are given is Jordan Peterson saying, go to Christianity and become a traditionalist.
	And then they're kind of stuck back in this paradigm.
	And if the solutions are outside of that, well, they're fucked then.
	Like, how do you get people to kind of step up there?
	So it's really good to be able to just sit and talk about this stuff at that point.
	Right, right.
	Well, I hope to have you back on again sometime.
	And I look forward to any future videos you come out.
	Also, I want to, you know, a little plug for myself.
	I suggest you watch some of my videos.
	I think it'll help you with some material when you engage in these Christian debates a little bit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And likewise, we can be studying your stuff too.
	I'm bad with the debates, I'm afraid, but I was checking out actually quite a lot of your stuff there.
	You sent me that playlist, for example, and I was listening through all of it and all this stuff.
	And as I said, like, you've just such a comprehensive geopolitical understanding of this because you've, I've come about this a very theoretical way, but you've actually just sat there and listened to what these people are saying.
	And you just thought for yourself, this sounds like bullshit.
	Like, what's going on here?
	And you've just kind of pieced it together and you're pointing out like this is crazy.
	That's an why is this person saying this?
	That's absurd that this is going on.
	You've sent me, for example, of the guy talking about the collapse of Edom and stuff like this.
	And like all these things.
	And I think it's really, really good, man.
	So it adds a kind of current context to it that I think is quite brilliant.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Well, everybody, can't wait to see what you have to say in the comments.
	His links are all down below in the description.
	Thanks, everybody, for the support tonight.
	Great support tonight.
	Great participation and questions.
	Love you all.
	And I will see you guys all again very soon.

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