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Sept. 19, 2022 - Know More News - Adam Green
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DEBATE: Is Christianity True? Opening & Closing Statements From Adam Green
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Christianity is not true because there's no proof for it at all whatsoever.
In fact, all the evidence demonstrates that Christianity is just like every other religion in the world.
It's made up and not true.
I'm going to point to several...
Yeah, it's his opening.
I'll go ahead and mute, but I can't promise I won't laugh.
Okay.
Well, we're laughing at you too.
Just doing it respectfully.
So some of the reasons is the Bible is clearly not credible evidence.
I'll get more into that in a second.
There's no evidence to support Christianity being true, such as miracles, answered prayers, supernatural events.
There's no contemporary historical sources corroborating any of the myths of the Bible.
And the God described in the Bible doesn't match the reality that we observe.
And it's actually what we observe is disproves the God of the Bible.
Given all the divine and spectacular claims in the Bible, anybody should have a high standard of evidence to claim these divine myths are true and to justify the Abrahamic faiths having any legitimacy.
Christianity is based on the mythological ancient book.
The Hebrew Torah, the New Testament are all clearly symbolism, mythology, allegories, fables, full of fictional characters and stories.
And why would we even need to rely on ancient books anyway?
Why is God silent?
Why is he hiding?
If God loved humanity and truly wanted to save it, he would communicate his message clearly and not in an ambiguous way, forcing us to rely on ancient books written by biased, religiously motivated, unknown authors, written at an unknown time, gospels at least 40 years after the purported events.
It's the worst kind of evidence, written in an unknown place from uncritical, non-historian type of authors.
And they are full of contradictions, important contradictions, like when Jesus was born, Jesus' genealogy, why Jesus was killed.
You would not find all these contradictions in a divinely inspired or inerrant Word of God book.
And any honest, rational person would have to admit far more likely that these stories are made-up myths than the likelihood and the probability that they actually occurred.
The simple and obvious explanation is that these are fantastical stories, are nothing more than Hebrew fantasies, not historical events.
The Bible is clearly, I forgot to start my timer, Bible clearly not divine, inspired word of God.
It's full of ambiguous doctrines and unclear, require interpretation, nobody can agree on.
Books are so flawed that they've been used to cause endless harm and suffering.
Countless con artists, preachers, prophet, multi-millionaires scamming their vulnerable flocks, manipulating others with the, quote, good book.
All of the rotten fruits of Christianity is evidence of rotten roots.
Ridiculous to grant, it's ridiculous to grant ancient Hebrews the sole authority to speak for the one true God of the universe.
Delegating the power of authority for one group of chosen people to speak on behalf of God is a recipe to be theologically controlled.
It's not a problem of one denomination or another.
You always hear the no true Scotsman fallacy that that's not real Christianity and my version of Christianity is the one true Christianity and everybody else gets it wrong.
But the reality is that there's no real Christians because Christianity is not real.
The problem isn't interpretation, but the scripture in the Old Testament that it is predicated on.
Christianity is predicated on the legitimacy of the Hebrew Torah and that's problematic because Christians validate and legitimize Torah Judaism.
You worship the God of Israel.
Christians believe in the new covenant, so they have to affirm the old covenant.
And all of these things just coincidentally fulfill the prophecies of the Hebrews that all flesh and all of the world will know the God of Israel.
In order for someone to be a Christian, one must believe hundreds of outrageous, impossible, improbable myths of miracles and magic.
Myths originated by people who believe they are destined to be superior to the non-Israelite nations.
Christians must believe literal six-day young earth creation story, unscientific, provably false creation stories that four pillars are holding up the waters above and Adam was just poofed into existence from mud.
Eve was made from his rib.
Evil snakes, tree curses, birth pangs during childbirth, curse to work the fields.
You guys, the Christians will love this one.
Living in a whale for three days, also impossible.
Staffs turning to snakes, woman turning to pillars of salt, Noah's Ark with all the animals, worldwide flood.
And it's been proven many of these stories derive from preceding pagan myths and are not even originals.
90-year-olds giving birth.
God commands circumcision, genital mutilation of babies, blood, magic, scapegoat sacrifices in Yom Kippur, a deity who loves the smell of burnt offerings, Exodus and the 10 plagues for God to show off his power, which there's no record of that from Egyptian sources.
Just like there's no record of the story of Esther and Purim documented by the Persians, you believe in Passover, Moses receiving the Torah, speaking to God in a burning bish on a mountain, all highly improbable, obviously mythological stories.
There's Jesus and Herod's slaughter of the innocents, also no historians documented.
Supposed virgin births, multiplying fish and bread, water to wine, walking on water, raising the dead, exorcisms of demons into pigs, angels, demons, Holy Ghost, blood, magic, scapegoat, atonement sacrifices of Jesus, saints raising from their graves, walk around Jerusalem, rip the temple curtain, three hours of darkness, earthquakes.
Nobody noticed or wrote about any of these things, resurrections.
And I find it very interesting that the Christian doesn't want to go to any scripture or talk about Christianity at all to prove Christianity is real.
Rather focus on philosophical ideas that are not in the Bible and wouldn't even prove a Christian God, even if they were legitimate and not full of logical fallacies that have been disproven all over the internet.
Jesus supposedly has revelations, visions to Paul and the other disciples, but he doesn't appear to everyone.
If God really loved us and he wanted us to follow him and be saved, why would he not appear to everyone?
He could go on a victory tour, Pilate, Sanhedrin, Roman emperor, fly on a cloud to China and in the Americas, go on a world tour so we could actually have some good evidence that he even existed and he could perform these miracles.
But no, we have to rely on the word of ancient religiously motivated Israelites.
No all-powerful God would create people just to worship him and test our faith with these.
I'm sorry to tell you.
Oh, no.
I didn't see the minute.
Can I finish this sentence?
No all-powerful God would create people just to worship him and test our faith in these outlandish and highly improbable Hebrew Torah prophecies and then hide from us and provide no clear existence and claim it's free choice for us to believe all these prophecies.
Otherwise, we will burn in hell.
Adam, Patrick, open first.
You can go ahead and close first with your closing statement.
Sure.
So it speaks volumes, the fact that he didn't want to let me get into any of the proof.
He provided no proof for Christianity.
He didn't want to talk about the absurdities in the Bible.
He didn't want to talk about all the problems with the problem of evil.
He didn't want to talk about no extra biblical evidence, no proof of any miracles or supernatural events, why God is silent.
He didn't want to talk about any of the scripture.
He wanted to get stuck on the same presuppositions, these orthodox tricks where I'm right because I'm right and only I can have truth because I have God and whatever the Orthodox Church says, you need to get off your knees, deprogram yourself from this Orthodox quasi-Judaism, Judaism for the Gentiles, Christianity.
Stop simping for the God of Israel and fulfilling the prophecy of the Jews that wanted you to worship their God.
You're theologically conquered.
Let's see.
The self-loathing, the demeaning, you need to not be mesmerized by the Jewish prophecies.
These are not prophecy fulfilled.
It's far more likely, far more plausible an explanation, the simple explanation for all these stories are made up by ancient Israelites and Hebrews.
They didn't actually happen.
This is prophecy.
Based on what standard, bro?
Got to let him get through his closing.
I know, but it's just so stupid.
To make objectively, it's just so stupid.
Dude, everybody said that.
Closing statements.
Ah!
Closing statement.
Let him get through his closing clip.
Finish Adam.
Christianity promotes ignorance over knowledge.
It's anti-philosophy.
It teaches you to have blind faith and horrible things like loving your enemy and turning the other cheek and loving the Jewish God and putting Christ before your own family and terrible, the jealous God that wants you to stone blasphemers and condone slavery.
The God is not moral.
You don't get your morals from God.
It's degrading to say that humans couldn't have morality and couldn't know right from wrong without an all-powerful, authoritative God in the sky that only the Jews can speak for.
Like Paul said, they're the oracles of God.
They're entrusted with the prophecy of God.
I'm not going to delegate and believe ancient Jews that they're the only ones that are allowed to speak for God.
Christianity has dominated and distorted the minds of the nations for 2,000 years, imposing Torah messianism on all of the nations, all of the Goyam, according to their prophecies.
And now they're marching towards their Armageddon apocalyptic end times fantasies of having Gog and Magog, big-time wars and mass suffering.
Also, Jesus can float down from the sky and save the day.
And the whole world can bow down and every tongue can confess the one world religion, worshiping the God of Israel from Jerusalem, from Zion.
And instead of opposing all of these Judeo-nonsense beliefs, you're promoting them and you're defending the Torah.
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